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Also, a bill (H. R. 5126) for the rP-lief of William Andrews-to By Mr. BULL: Papers to accompany bill for the relief of Jer&­ the Committee on Invalid Pensions. miah McCarthy and Bartholomew Shea and the heirs of Patrick Also, a bill (H. R. 5127) for the relief of Ebeneezer S. Bigelow­ J. Sullivan and John B. Dillon-to the Committee on Claims. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. BURTON: Resolutions of the Cincinnati (Ohio) Cham­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5128) granting an increase of pension to Mary ber of Commerce, favoring the passage of the Torrey bankruptcy V. Wentworth-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. bill-to the Committee on the Judiciary. Also, a bill (H. R. 5129) granting a pension to E. F. Haskell­ By Mr. CRUMP: Sundry petitions of Iron Molders' Unions to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Nos. 31 and 244, Retail Clerks' Union No. 168, Waiters' Union Also, a bill (H. R. 5130) to amend the military record of William No. 21, and International Brotherhood of Bookbinders Union No. L. Parkhurst-to the Committee on Military Affairs. 30, all of the city of Detroit, Mich., remonstrating against the Also, a bill (H. R. 5131) granting a pension to Margaret Har­ passage of House bill No. 30 and Senate bill No. 1575, restricting rington-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the right to buy and sell railroad tickets-to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 5132) granting an increase of pension to Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Francis A. Semons-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. CUMMINGS: Paper to accompany a bill to grant an Also, a bill (H. R. 5133) granting an honorable discharge to increase of pension to Charles F. Rand-to the Committee on In­ Michael J. Niland-to the Committee on Military Affairs. valid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5134) granting an increase of pension to By Mr. ERMENTROUT: Petition of the Trades League of Stephen Ellis-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Philadelphia, Pa., for sufficient appropriation to make the chan­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5135) fn'anting an increase of pension to nel of the Delaware River from Philadelphia to the sea 30 feet Charles H. Adams-to the Committ~e on Invalid Pensions. deep and 600 feet wide-to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. By Mr. CHICKERING: A bill (B. R. 5136) to pay Orville J. By Mr. JONES of Washington: Petition of the Seattle (Wash.) Jennings, of Fulton, N. Y., for work done under contract of Chamber of Commerce, urging an increased artillery force on the March 25, 1889-to the Committee on Claims. Pacific Coast-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R . .5137) to remove the charge of desertion from By Mr. LOUD: Resolution of the Cuban League of San Fran­ James W. Penny, alias Frederic Stanley. Company F, Second cisco, Cal., extending sympathy to the inhabitants of Cuba in their Regiment United States Infantry-to the Committee on Military struggle for freedom-to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Affairs. By Mr. McCALL: Papers to accompany House bill No. 5143, to Also, a bill8H. R. 5138) to remove the charge of desertion from remove the charge of desertion against Franklin B. Hill-to the Francis W. sterhout, Ccmpany F, Sixteenth United States Comi:nittee on Military Affairs. Infantry-to the Committee on Military Affairs. · By Mr. ROBB (by request): Papers to accompany House bill to Also, a bill (H. R. 5139) for the relief of J. L. Pede-to the Com­ grant a pension to Archibald Groom-to the Committee on Inva­ mittee on Invalid Pensions. lid Pensions. By Mr. ELLIS: A bill (H. R. 5140) to carry out the findings of Also (by request), paper to accompany House bill for the relief the Court of Claims in the case of John Campbell-to the Com­ of Lewis D. Thurman-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on War Claims. By Mr. ROBINSON of Indiana: Petition of Louis H. Gerke and Also, a bill (H. R. 5141) for the relief of Wilbur F. Cogswell­ other citizens of Fort Wayne, Ind., for the passage of railway to the Committee on Naval Affairs. mail clerks reclassification bill-to the Committee on the Post­ By Mr. HENRY of Texas: A bill (H. R. 5142) to carry out the Office and Post-Roads. findings of the Court of Claims in the case of Alexander Davis- By Mr. TALBERT: Resolution of the American Public Health to the Committee on War Claims. · Association, of Washington, D. C., favoring a commission of ex­ ByMr. McCALL: A bill (H.R.5143) toremovethecbargeof de­ pert bacteriologists for the purpose of making a thorough study sertion from the military record of Franklin B. Hill-to the Com­ of the cause and prevention of -to the Committee on mittee on Military Affairs. Appropriations. By Mr. McEWAN: A bill (H. R. 5144) to amend the naval rec­ By Mr. TODD: Sundry petitions of Iron Molders' Unions Nos. ord of Joseph Miller, alias John Smart-to the Committee on 31 and 244, Retail Clerks' Union No. 168, Waiters' Union No. 21, Naval Affairs. and International Brotherhood of Bookbinders Union No. 20, all By Mr. MEEKISON: A bill (H.R.514:5) granting a pension to of the city of Detroit, Mich., protesting against the passage of a Jennie Burns-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. bill prohibiting railroad-ticket brokerage-to the Committee on By Mr. EVANS: A bill (H. R. 5146) to increase the pension of Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Casper Seibel-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. WANGER: Resolution of the Trades League of Phila­ By Mr. BAKER of Maryland: A bill (H. R. 5150) for the relief delphia, Pa., in favor of the largest possible appropriation for of the heirs and legal representatives of William G. Burke, de­ continuing the work of deepening the channel of the Delaware ceased, late of Harford County, Md.-to the Committee on War River until a permanent channel of not less than 30 feet in depth Claims. and 600 feet in width is secured-to the pommitteeon Appropria­ By Mr. WHEELER of Alabama: A bill (H. R. 5151) to author­ tions. ize the Secretary of War to cause to be irvestigated and to pro· By Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky: Petitions of J. R. Avery and vide for the payment of the claim of the Methodist Episcopal 118 other citizens, Luther B. Falkes and 19 others, H. V. Hutchi­ Church of Huntsville, Ala., for the use and occupation of said son and 52 others, and J. M. Minnis and 19 others, all in the State church building for Government purposes by the United States of Kentucky, protesting against the passage of a bill to abolish military authorities during the late war, and all claims for dam­ railroad-ticket brokerage-to the Committee on Interstate and ages resulting from the appropriation to Government use of any Foreign Commerce. of the furnishings or materials pertaining to said building, and for By Mr. YOUNG of : Petition of the Trades League damage to said building-to the Committee on War Claims. of Philadelphia, asking for the improvement of the Delaware By Mr. GROUT: A bill (H. R. 5153) granting a pension to Mrs. River-to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. Cordelia Cheney, of Lunenburg, Vt.-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5154) granting an increase of pension to Mary E. Chamberlin-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. SENATE. By Mr. McRAE: A bill (H. R. 5155) for the relief of Bethany 1 Johnson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. THURSDAY, Decentbe1 16, 1897. Also, a bill (H. R. 5156) for the relief of D. J. Smith-to the Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. W. H. MILBURN, D. D. Committee on Pensions. The Secretary proceeded to read the Journal of yesterday's pro­ ceedings, when, on motion of Mr. ALLEN, and by unanimous con­ PETITIONS, ETC. sent, the further reading was dispensed with. Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, the following petitions and papers REPORT OF INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION. were laid on the Clerk's desk and referred as follows: The VICE-PRESIDENT laid before the Senate the eleventh By Mr. ACHESON: Resolution of the board of managers of the annual report of the Interstate Commerce Commission; which Trades League of Philadelphia, Pa., praying for the improvement was referred to the Committee on Interstate Commerce, and· of the Delaware River-to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. ordered to be printed. By Mr. ADAMS: Resolution of the Trades League of Philadel­ phia, Pa., favoring an appropriation for improving the channel of REPORT OF BOARD OF ORDNANCE AND FORTIFICATION. the Delaware River to not less than 30 feet in depth and 600 feet The VICE-PRESIDENT laid before the Senate a communica­ in width-to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. tion from the Secretary of War, transmitting the annual report By Mr. BAILEY: Petitions of L. B. Johnson and 50 others, and of the Board of Ordnance and Fortification for the year ended J. K. Stone and 11 others, citizens of the State of Texas, in oppo­ October 31, 1897; wbieh, with the accompanying report, was sition to the so-called anti-scalping bill or any similar measure­ referred to the Committee on Military Affairs, and ordered to be to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. printed. 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE.· 195

ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED. other citizens; of F. W. Hassenpleeg and 49 other citizens; of A. Hall and 49 other citizens; of J. Constantine and 11 other citizens; A message from the House of Representatives, by Mr. W. J. of S. F. Finn and 49 other citizens; of J. A. Dunwoody and 47 BROWNING, its Chief Clerk, announced that the Speaker of the other citizens; of L. Miller and 49 other citizens; of A. W. Brown­ House had signed the following enrolled bill and joint resolution; ell and 51 other citizens; of E. G. Vanatta and 50 other citizens; and they were thereupon signed by the Vice-President: of D. W. King and 52 other citizens; of Charles Ottenheimer and A bill (H. R. 4752) making appropriations to provide for certain 52 other citizens; of Lee Knapp and 52 other citizens; of Robert deficiencies in the appropriations for the service of the Govern­ Morriss and 52 other citizens; of George Vaught and 52 other cit­ ment for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1898; and izens; of James :M. Crozer and 52 other citizens; of F. G. Moore A joint resolution (H. Res. 103) to pay the officers and employees and 52 other citizens; of HenryKlansing and 52 other citizens; of of the Senate and House of Representatives their respective sala­ D. R. McLeon and 52 other citizens; of I. :McSupel and 52 other ries for the month of December, 1897, on the 17th day of said citizens; of W. S. Kelly and 52 other citizens; of C. A. Washburn month. and 52 other citizens; of W. B. Weston and 19 other citizens; of PETITIONS AND MEMORIA.LS. R. L. Chester and H} other citizens; of K. Leon and 19 other cit­ Mr. SEWELL presented a petition of the Woman's Christian izens; of I. F. Moneil and 19 other citizens; of S. L. Sharender Temperance Union of Woodbury, N. J., praying for the enactment and 19 other citizens; of W. C. Hydon and 19 othP.r citizens; of of legislation prohibiting the importation of dgarettes in original J. Darald and 19 other citizens; of R. F. Lemon and 19 other cit­ packages; which was referred to the Committee on Finance. izens; of L. R. Thomas and 19 other citizens; of 'rhomas Lynch :Mr. TURLEY presented memorials of L. Offutt and 15 other and 19 other citizens; of H. Everett and 19 other citizens; of C. citizens; of J. 0. Allen and 18 other citizens; of J. H. Todd and Fisher and 19 other citizens; of P. E. Aemyter and 19 other cit­ 14 other citizens; of E. B. Taliafero and 15 other citizens; of J. izens; of L. G. Ritter and 19 other citizens; of W. T. Beall and 19 C. Edrington and 19 other citizens; of L. W. Drake and 19 other other citizens; of C. H. Whipple and 19 other citizens, and of citizens; of S. K. Hirth and 19 other citizens; of H. S.M. Grooms Fred A. Jackson and 37 other citizens, all in the State of Colorado, and 19 other citizens: of L. H. Bauxbaum and 9 other citizens; of remonstrating against any change being made in the present sys­ S. Schloss and 19 other citizens; of Sam Cohen and 19 other citi­ tem of ticket broke1·age; which werereferred to the Committee on zens; of J. C. Hurd and 19 other citizens, and of William John­ Interstate Commerce. son and 52 other citizens, all of the State of Tennessee, remon­ REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. strating against any change being made in the present system of ticket brokerage; which were referred to the Committee on Inter­ Mr. COCKRELL, from the Committee on Military Affairs, to state Commerce. whom was referred the bill (S. 2121) for the relief of James W. Mr. NELSON presented a petition of sundry citizens of Wright Howell, late of Company H, Fifty-fourth Regiment Illinois In­ County, Minn., praying for the enactment of legislation t-o estab­ fantry Volunteers, reported it without amendment, and submitted lish a postal savings bank system and to provide for the conduct a report thereo~. . and regulation of the same; which was referred to the Committee He also, from the same committee, to whom was referred the on Post-Offices and Post-Roads. bill (S. 2831) to correct the milibuy record of Perry J. Knoles, Mr. LODGE presented a memorial of sundry citizens of Law­ reported it without amendment, and submitted a report thereon. rence, Mass.• remonstrating against the ratification of the arbi­ Mr. COCKRELL. By a clerical error the bill (S. 2149) for the tration treaty between the United StatesandGreatBritain; which relief of Richard C. Silence, for the purpose of correcting his mili­ was referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations. tary record, was referred to the Committee on Claims. I move He also presented a petition of the Massachusetts Society, United that the Committee on Claims be discharged from the further con­ States Daughters of 1812, praying to be allowed to undertake the sideration of the bill, and that it be referred to the Committee on restoration and preservation of the U.S. frigate Constitution in Military Affairs. I supposed it was referred to the Committee on order that she may once more be put in commission to be used as Military Affairs, and that committeB has already acted upon it; a training ship; which was referred to the Committee on Appro­ but I see by the indorsement on the bill that it went to the Com­ priations. mittee on Claims. · He also presented a petition of 27 citizens of the District of Co­ The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. GALLINGER in the chair). lumbia and a petition of 29 citizens of Mississippi, praying that Without objection, the Committee on Claims will be discharged an appropriation be made to reimburse the depo~itors of the failed from the fm·ther consideration of the bill, ann it will be referred Freedman's Savings Bank; which were referred to the Committee to the Committee on Military Affairs. on Finance. · · Mr. COCKRELL. I am instructed by the Committee on Mili­ Mr. ALLEN presented the petition of S. M. Benedict, of Lin­ tary Affairs to report without amendment the bill (S. 2149) for coln, Nebr., praying Congress to recognize the independence of the relief of Richard C. Silence, and to submit a report thereon. Cuba; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be placed on the He also presented the affidavit of Mell Seward and other citi­ Calendar. zens of Nebraska, in support of Senate bill No. 2461, to increase the pension of S. H. Shirley; which was referred to the Commit- Mr. VEST, from the Committee on Commerce, to whom was tee on Pensions. · referred the bill (S. 2553) to authorize the construction of a steel Mr. SPOONER presented the petition of Rev. A. C. Grier, of bridge over the Snake River, between the States of Washington Racine, Wis., praying for the enactment of legislation raising the and Idaho, reported it with an amendment. age of protection for girls to 18 years in the District of Columbia Mr. HALE, from the Committee on Naval Affairs, to whom was and the Territories; which was referred to the Committee on the referred the bill (S. 2754) to amend sections 431 and 4.32 of the District of Columbia. Revised Statutes, relating t-o the Hydrographic Office in the Navy · He also presented the petition of Rev. A. C. Grier, of Racine, Department, reported it without amendment, and submitted a Wis., praying for the enactment of legislation to prohibit the report thereon. transmission by mail or interstate commerce ·of newspaper deserip­ He also, from .the same committee, to whom was referred the tions of prize fights; which was referred to.the Committee on the bill (S. 1009) to authorize the Light-House Board to pay to Judiciary. Chamblin, Delaney & Scott the sum of $2,125, asked to be dis­ He also presented the petition of Rev. A. C. Grier, of Racine, charged from its further consideration and that it be referred to Wis., praying for the enactment of legislation to prohibit the the Committee on Commerce; which was agreed to. interstate transmission of lottery messages and other gambling Mr. McMILLAN, from the Committee on Commerce, to whom matter by telegraph; which was referred to the Committee on the was referred the bill (S. 1863) for the establishment of a light­ Judiciary. house at the pitch of Cape Fear River, near Wilmington, N. C., He also presented the petition of Rev. A. C. Grier, of Racine, reported it without amendment, and submitted a report thereon. Wis., praying for the enactment of legislationp1·ohibiting the sale He also, from the same committee, to whom was_referrad the of intoxicating liquors in aU Government buildings; which was bill (S. 626) for the establishment of a light-house and fog signal referred to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. at a point north of the bell buoy near the broken part of the Pol­ He also presented the petition of Rev. A. C. Grier, of Racine, lock Rip Shoals, on the coast of Massachusetts, reported it with­ Wis., praying for the enactment of legislation to prohibit kine to­ out amendment, and submitted a report thereon. scope reproductions of pugilistic encounters in the District of Co­ Mr. WILSON, from the Committee on Indian Affairs, to whom lumbia and the Territories, and also the interstate transmission was referred the bill (S. 351) . to authorize the Auditor for the of materials for the same; which was ordered to lie on the table. Interior Department to settle and adjust the accounts of E. C. Mr. TELLER presented memorials of J. R. Hauze and 52 other Chirouse, Indian agent at the Tulaiip Agency, Wash., reported it citizens; of P. W. Doyle and 52 other citizens; of George H. without amendment, and submitted a report thereon. Munro and 52 other citizens; of A. Ringier and 52 other citizens; Mr. FAIRBANKS, from the Committee on Claims, to whom of the Booth Packing Company and 52 citizens; of F. T. Parker was referred the bill (S. 1055) appropriating money to pay the and 52 other citizens; of E. McDaniel and 49 other citizens; of claim of the Western Paving and Supply Company, reported it William Holmes and 52 other citizens; of AlbertS. Quast and 52 without amendment, and submitted a report thereon. 196 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECEl\ffiER 16,

HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE. intention to become such citizens, "to hereafter acquire, hold, or own real estate so hereafter acquired, or anyintere!:t therein, in any of the Territories Mr. FRYE, from the Committee on Commerce, reported the fol­ of the United States or in the District of Columbia." lowing resolution; which was referred to the Committee to Audit This law, however, excepts from its prohibition, amo~ other cases, those "in which the right to hold or dispose of lands in the united States is se­ and Control the Contingent Expenses of the Senate: cured by existing treaties to the citizens or subjects of foreign countries, and Resolved, That the Committee on Commerce be, and the same is hereby, excepts also such as may be acquired by inheritance." • * * authorized to employ a stenographer from time to time, as may be necessary, Considering Mr. Soh as one who had not become a citizen of tho United to report such hearings as may be had on bills pending before said commit­ States or declared his intention to become one, he bad the right under the tee~ and t-o have the Eame printed for the use of the committee, and that such treaty between the United States and Korea topurch11s9 land in the District. stenographer be paid out of the contingent fund of the Senate. The lan~uage of that treaty applicable thereto is: "Subjects of ChoS<:In who REVENUE-CUTTER SERVICE ON THE YUKON RIVER. may vislt the United States shall be permitted to reside and to r ent premises,­ pnrcbase land," etc. (See Article VI of the treaty, in "Treaties and con· Mr. FRYE. I am instructed by the Committee on Commerce, ventions," 218.) to whom was referred the bill (S. 2793) for the purchase or con­ As a matter of fact, Mr. Soh declared hie; intention to become a citizen of the United States on the 24th day of May, 1889, before the clerk of the court struction of a vessel for the Revenue-Cutter Service on the Yukon of common pleas of Middlesex County, N.J., and on the 18th day of Novem­ River, Alaska, to report it favorably with an amendment, and I to such citizenship by the supreme court of the Dis- am instructed by the same committee to ask for its immediate con­ frl~t lgfZc&:nili~~tted sideration. It is a case requiring very prompt action. The pur­ But, as it may prove that the court was without power to confer this citi­ zenship upon a Korean, in view of the decisions of the Federal courts in In re pose is to supply a revenue cutter for the Yukon River, and it Saito, ti2 Federal Reporter, 126; In.re All Yup, 5 Sawyer, 155, and In re Mai, ought to be ready by early spring, as soon as the river opens, the 21 Pacific Reporter, 993,or asitmaybebeld thatberenouncedsuchcitizenship cutter being an absolute necessity, and the Government now hav­ by returning to Korea and accepting office under the King of that countr7 just prior to the purchase of land in the Di'ltrict, attention is called to his ing no vessel properly constructed. The draft must not be over treaty rights in this respect as a Korean. 2-! feet. There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the II.-RrGHT TO Co~""VEY. Whole, proceeded to consider the bill. Having the right under the treaty, which is not affected 1:1y the act of Con­ gress of 1~7, to purchase land, Mr. Soh had the undoubted right to convey it The amendment of the Committee on Commerce was, in line 5, l:>Y will or deed to a citizen of the United States or of Korea residing in the after the word" for," and before the word "service," to insert United States, because the word "purchase" in the treaty comprehends any "1·evenue cutter;" so as to make the bill read: method of acquisition of realty except by descent or operation of law. Be it enacted, etc., That the Secretary of the Treasury be, and be is hereby, III.-RIGHT TO TRANSMIT BY l:mrnRITANCE. authorized to purchase or have constructed for the Revenue-Cutter Service a suitable vessel for revenue-cutter service on the Yukon River, Alaska; The alien relatives of Mr. Soh-his widow and his sisters in Seoul-can not and the sum of $40,00() is hereby appropriated and made immediately avail­ acquire this property by inheritance under the lanfr!age of tho treaty, which able to purchase or build such vessel. confers the ri~bt of acquiring real estate in the Uruted States onJy upon Ko· reans who visit this country, and the ladies mentioned have never been here; The amendment was agreed to. and, moreover, this privilege is only" to purchase," not to inherit. The bill was reported to the Senate as amended, and the amend­ But the strict rule of the common law that aliens can not take real estate ment was concurred in. by inheritance haB been modified by the act of Maryland of 1791, "concerning the Territory of Columbia and the city of Washington." The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read Section G of thls act provides that "any foreigner may, by d eed or will the thil·d time, and passed. hereafter to be made, take and bold lands within that '[lart of the said Terri­ tory which lies within this State fsince 184- all of the District is confined to THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ITS TRIBUTARIES, the part ceded by Maryland] in the same manner as i! he was a citizen of this Mr. NELSON, from the Committee on Commerce, reported the State, and the same lands may be conveyed by him and transmitted to and inherited by his heirs and relations as if be and they were citizens of this following resolution; which was referred to the Committee to Audit State." and Control the Contingent Expenses of the Senate: Though the act of Congress of 1887, above cited, considerably restricts the Resolved, That the powers and duties conferred upon the Committee on privileges conferred by the law just quoted, yet it expressly permitR aliens Commerce in and by the resolution of Mayl(), 1897, a copy of which resolution to acquire land in the Territories of the United Stat~s and in this District is hereto attached and made a part hereof, be, and the same hereby are "by inheritance." continued in force, and the said committee are hereby directed to proceed There can be no doubt that there is no disability on the part o! these ladies with and continue the work prescribed in said resolution in the manner to inherit these lands from an alien. therein prescribed, and the expenses of the same shall be paid from the con­ But the Supreme Court of the United States, construing the Maryland act tingent fund of the Senate, as provided in the original resolution. The time of 1791, have held that it does not remove the disability arisin~ from common­ for the committee in which to make report is hereby extended toApril1,1898. law principles of a.n alien t-o inherit lands here from a citizen. Spratt vs. Spratt, 1 Peters, 313 (7j 171).,~ and ~Peters, 393 (7; 879); De G-eoffrey vs. Riggs, Mr. GALLINGER subsequently reported without amendment 133 U.S. See also, Jost vs. Jost, 1 Mackey, 4.-93. the above resolution from the Committee to Audit and Control the Under this statute, tbe1•efore, these heirs could not take by inheritance Contingent Expenses of the Senate; and it was considered by unani­ lands in this District acquired and held by a citizen of the United States. mous consent, and agreed to. The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment ordered ESTATE OF POM K. SOH. to be engrossed for a third reading, read the third time, and passed. Mr. MORGAN. I am directed by the Committee on Foreign HOLIDAY RECESS, Relations, to whom was referred the bill (S. 2764) for the relief Mr. ALLISON, from the Committee on Appt·opriations, to w~om of the heirs of Pom K. Soh, d'eceased, to report it without amend­ was referred the following concurrent resolution of the House of ment, and I ask that the Senate will immediately consider it. I Representatives, reported it without amendment, and it was con­ desire to make a very brief statement about the bill. sidered by unanimous consent, and agreed to: This gentleman, a man of eminence for his abilities, and also of Resolved lJytheHouse of Representatives (theSenateconcun·ing), That when very fine character, formerly minister from Korea, died here. He the two Houses adjoUTil on Saturday, the 18th day of December, they stand was actually an American citizen, and had become naturalized on adjourned until12 o'clock meridian on Wednesday, January 5, 1898. filing his application in the State of New Jersey and perfecting it RELIEF OF SUFFERERS IN THE VALLEY OF THE YUKON. in the District of Columbia. It tmns out that the laws of the United States do not permit his widow and heirs to take a title to Mr. HAWLEY. I am instructed by the Committee on Military a piece of land that he bought while he was here for a residence Affairs to make a favorable report upon the joint resolution intro­ in the city of Washington. He married a lady who is a native of duced by the Senator from Oregon [Mr. McBRIDE], being the Korea, and she is entitled to dower. His next of kin are entitled, joint resolution (S. R. 72) for the relief of American miners and of course, to the fee of the estate, but they can not get it because other sufferers in the valley of the Yukon and its tributaries. they are aliens. There is a mortgage, or rather a vendor's lien, After full consultation with the Secretary of War and with the :Major-General Commanding the Army, it was thought that certain upon the property, which is due some timeearlyinJanuary, and it details should be included and the matte1· set forth with more par­ will be foreclosed and the estate will be deprived of any oppor­ ticularity. So we report as an amendment a substitute to strike tunity of buying it in, for those people can not own land in the out all after the resolving clause and insert what I send to the District of Columbia. The bill provides for a mere quitclaim desk, asking consent for its immediate consideration. The reasons conveyance of whatever interest the United States or the District for early action are quite obvious. The other House is likely to of Columbia may have in the little lot. I therefore ask the Sen­ act very soon. I may state that this morning the committee of ate to consicler the bill and pass it. the House has been considering the matter, and the sooner it is There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the done the better for a variety of reasons. I ask that the joint reso­ Whole, proceeded to consider the bill. lution be read and immediately considered. Mr. MORGAN. ·I should like to have printed in the RECORD a There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the statement of facts on which the bill is based, so that when it goes Whole, proceeded to consider the joint resolution (S. R. 72) for to the other House they will have the facts before them. the relief of American miners and other sufferers in the valley of The VICE-PRESIDENT. The1·e being no objection, that order the Yukon and its tributaries. will be made. The amendment of the Committee on Military Affairs was to The paper referred to is as follows: strike out all after the resolving clause and insert: The legal right of Mr. Pom K. Soh to purchase, convey, or transrnit by inherit­ ance real estate in the District of Columbia. That the sum of $250,000 is hereby appropriated, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, to be expended (or so much thereof as L -RIOHT TO PuRCHASE. m~y_ be necessary), in the discretion and under the dirtlction of the Secretary An act of Congre.ss dated March 3,1887 (24 Stat., 476), makes it" unlawful" of War, for the purchase of subsistence stor es, supplies, and material for the for persQllS not citizens of the United States, or who have not declared their relief of people who m·tl in the Yukon River country, or other mining regions 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SEN ATE. 197 of Alaska, and to purchase traJ1!3portation and provide m~ans for the distri­ Mr. BACON (by request) introduced the following bills; which bution of such stores and supplies, and such o.her !'upplies as ~a.y bo con­ tributed by the citizens of Oregon and others: Promded, That Wlth the con­ were severally read twice by their titles, and referred to the Com­ sent of the Canadian Goverp.ment first obtained, th~ Secretar~ of War, may mittee on Claims: cause the relief herein provided for to be extended mto Canadian terntory. A bill (S. 2852) for the relief of Patrick Jennings, of Gordon SEc. 2'. That the said subsistence stores, supplies, and materials may be County, Ga.; sold in said country at such prices as shall be fixed by the Secretary of War, or donated. where he finds people in need ~nd :un~ble t~ pay for the same.. A bill (S. 2853) for the relief of Sarah A. Burney, of Floyd SEc. 3. That the SecrelK'l.ry of War may, m his di.scl·etion~pnrchase . and rm­ County, Ga.; port reindeer and employ and brinoo into the country remdeer dr1vers or herders not citizens of the United States, or provide such other means of A bill (S. 2854) for the relief of Joel Cross, of Dade County, Ga.; transportation as in his judgment he may deem practicable. The said rein­ A bill (S. 2855) for the relief of Thornton Talley, of Gordon dear or other outfit may be sold and disposed of by the Secretary of War County, Ga.; when he shall have no further use for them under the provision. of this act, and the proceE'dB arising from all sa.J.es herein authol'lZed shall be covered A bill (S. 2856) for the relief of the estate of William D. Wheeler, into the Treasury. deceased, late of Bartow County, Ga.; and Mr. STEWART. I should like to inquire of the Senator having A bill (S. 2857) for the relief of William A. Bray, of Gordon charge of the joint resolution if the language used ~ be suffi­ County, Ga. cient to authorize the Secretary of War to contract With the Hud­ Mr. BAKER introduced a bill (S. 2858) authorizing the Musco­ son Bay Company and persons who are engaged in transportation gee Coal and RailwayCompanytoconstrnct and operate a railway on the Red River. I was informed by a gentleman who has been through the Indian Tel'l'itory and Oklahoma Territory, and for very familiar with that country, and who spent several winters other pm1Joses; which was read twice by its title, and referred to there, that they would probably be able to send provisions across the Committee on Indian Affairs. by that route. It is a long distance, but he thought they could be He also introduced thefollowingbills; which were severally read safely relied upon to send pr?visions across at any season partment or any of its several bureaus or branches, and if so, to fur­ correspondence relating to the subject as he may have. nish a list of their names and salaries or the compensation paid them; and, Mr. WOLCOTT. Mr. President, the special commissioners or further to inform the Senate if any persons in the Treasury Department or any of its several bureaus or branches have been retired from active service envoys appointed by the President in April last have not made as and are drawing pay or compensation from the Government. and if so, give yet any report to the President of their proceedings. The Eng­ the name or names of such persons and the compensation they are paid, when lish Government, of its own motion, published a resume of the they were so retired, and for what cause or causes. negotiations which took place in England, which, by the Presi­ CENTRAL PACIFIC RAILROAD. dent's message, I learn is to be laid before the Senate. I do not Mr. PETTIGREW submitted the following resolution; which know whether or not that has yet been done. I procured as many was considered by unanimous consent, and agreed to: copies as possible on the other side and sent them, as far as they Resolved, That the Secretary of the Interior be, and is hereby, directed to would go, to members of the Senate. I apprehend that the docu­ furnish the Senate with an itemized statement of the receipts and expendi­ ment has not yet come to the Senate, but will soon be here. tures of the Central Pacific Railroad for each year from 1871 to 1897, said I hope, Mr. President, and intend at the earliest convenient statement to show the amounts expended for subsidies to the Pacific Mail Steamship ())mpany and the amount paid into the sinking fund each year. day, to make a statement to the Senate respecting the proceedings of the special commission. I must make such statement, of course, REVENUE CUTTERS OFF THE FLORIDA COAST. unofficially and as a Senator. I can make it with propriety to this Mr. CANNON submitted the following resolution; which was body, for it was in the Senate that the idea of the appointment of considered by unanimous consent, and agreed to: a commission originated, and it was through this body that it was Resolved).. That the Secretary of the Treasury is hereby directed to trans­ pressed to a conclusion in cooperation with the House of Repre­ mit to the ::;enate, at his earliest convenience, a statement showing (a) what, if any, revenue cutters of the United States, since March 4,1897, have been sentatives. I had hoped to make such a statement at an earlier maintained off the coast of Florida, or in waters contiguous, to thwart at­ day. I have been away from the United States for nine months tempts to violate the neutrality laws; (b) -what attempts, if any,at such vio­ out of twelve during the past year. I found on my return an im­ lation have been so thwarted; (c) what vessels, if any, have been captured mense accumulation of local routine matters, and I have not as while en~aged in violation or alleged violation of neutrality laws; (d) the names of and details concerning such vessels, if any, so captured, which were yet been able to devote myself for a moment to the subject. I armed and equipped to cruise with hostile intent against any power at peace hope to be able to do so as soon after the recess as possible; and I with the United States or were accompanied by a military expedition; {e) by expect by about the middle of next month, if possible, to say to the what authority of law such captures, if any, were made, and what disposi­ tion has been made of the vessels, their contents, crews, and passengers, if Senate whatever I can say respecting the mission. Pending that, any, so captured. the matter contained in the resolution of the Senator from Ne­ EMPLOYMENT OF STENOGRAPHER. braska might perhaps, with his permission, lie over. I am not Mr. CULLOM submitted the following resolution; which was tenacious about it; but it is very possible that after the subject referred to the Committee to Audit and Control the Contingent has been somewhat discussed, the Senator may desire, perhaps, to Expenses of the Senate: modify or change his resolution. That I leave entirely with him. R esolved, That the Committee on Interstate Commerce be authorized to It is a matter with which this statement naturally does not con­ employ a s~nographer to report hearings before said committee during the cern itself. present sessiOn of Congress. While I am on my feet, I will ask leave to have published as a COURTS IN INDIAN TERRITORY. miscellaneous document a translation, which was only finished A message from the House of Representatives, by Mr. W. J. this morning, of a most important and able speech made in the BROWNING, its Chief Clerk, returned to the Senate. in compliance Chamber of Deputies by M. :Meline, the premier and secretary of with its request, the bill (S. 2365) to amend the Indian appropria­ agriculture of the French Government, on the 20th of November tion act of June 7, 1897, and for other purposes. last, in which he deals at some length with questions cognate to Mr. JONES of Arkansas. The House has, at the request of the that on which the bimetallic mission went abroad. He deals with Senate, just returned Senate bill 2365, and I move that the vote the depression of agriculture in the Republic of France, and shows by which the bill was passed be reconsidered. that in the last fifteen years the revenues from agriculture have Mr. FRYE. What is the bill? fallen off 500,000,000 francs. He deals with the depression of Mr. JONES of Arkansas. It is a bill proposing to suspend a prices as· affected by transportation, and shows how, except as to clause in the Indian appropriation act which transferred the a few of the cereals, the question of transportation does not seri­ jurisdiction of Indian courts in the Indian Territory to Federal ously affect values. He deals also with the question of overpro­ courts until such time as the Senate should act on an agreement duction, and shows that as to most of the products of agriculture between the Choctaw and Chickasaw nations and the United in France the question of overproduction in no wise affects prices. States, which was then pending. Since that time the Chickasaw He shows that the steady and constant depreciation of agricultural Nation have rejected the agreement; it is not now pending, and values in France comes solely from the competition between the there is no necessity for passing the bill. For tha't reason I move gold connti·ies and the silver countries. He deals a.s well with that the vote by which the bill was passed be reconsidered. the results of the joint efforts of the representative of France and The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. GALLINGER in the chair). the envoys of the United States in dealing with the English Gov­ The Chair would suggest to the Senator from Arkansas that in ernment upon the question of reopening the mints of the world to the opinion of the present occupant of the chair, the bill having the free coinage of silver, and comments upon it. been passed at the last session of Congress, the action can only be I ask the permission of the Senate that the translation of the taken by unanimous consent. Does the Senator ask for unani­ speech may be printed as a miscellaneous document. mous consent? The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. GARTER in the chair). In Mr. JONES of Arkansas. I ask unanimous consent, then, that the absence of objection, the paper referred to will be printed as the vote by which the bill was passed be reconsidered. a document. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arkansas a.8ks Mr. ALLEN. Mr. President, if the Senator from Colorado is unanimous consent that the vote whereby the bill (S. 2365) to satisfied that the report will be made-- 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.-SENATE. 199

Mr. MORGAN. With the permission of the Senator from Ne­ is so ordered. Now the Senator from Alabama asks that the com· braska, I wish to inquire if there is any objection to printing in munication presented by the Senator from Colorado be read to the RECORD the document which the Senator from Colorado [Mr. the Senate. WoLCOTT] has sent to the desk? Mr. CHANDLER. I suppose that goes over with the motion. :M:r. WOLCOTT. I should beveryglad to have it printed where Mr. MORGAN. I called for the reading of the paper. it will receive the greatest publicity. I know it will be of interest The PRESIDING OFFICER. And to that request the Senator to all members of the Senate aud to the country generally. from Massachusetts [Mr. HoAR] has objected. Mr. MORGAN. I make that motion, and in conjunction with 1\Ir. CH~~DLER. I suggest to the Senator from Alabama that I will send to the Secretary's desk a letter from the Director that a motion of this kind, there being one motion now before the of thel\lint, which I received this morning, and ask that it be read Senate, can not take the place of the pending question. and also printed in the RECORD. 1\fr. ALLEN. Why can not time be saved by the Senator from Mr. HOAR. I did not understand that the request of the Sena­ Colorado [Mr. WoLCOTT] reading the translation himself? Let tor from Alabama was submitted to the Senate. the Senator from Colorado r ead the translation himself. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The request of the Senator from Mr. WHITE. And incorporate it in his remarks. Alabama was supplemented by the further request that the paper Mr. HOAR. Undoubtedly, Mr. President, if any Senator de­ now to be read by the Secretary should likewise be printed in the sires to force upon the Senate a departure from its just and ordi­ RECORD, ns the Chair understands. nary rule3, he can do so by reading any document at length. Mr. MORGAN. Ye::;, sir. Mr. ALLEN. There is nothing in violation of the rules for the Mr. HOAR. I hope the Senator will not pres::; the printing of Senator to read the paper if he wants to. the speech of the French premier in the RECORD. Our RECORD Mr. BOAR. I understand the rules permit that. has become exceedingly voluminous now, and it is a very serious Mr. ALLEN. To do so would violate neither the letter nor the thing to exclude anything if we admit anything other than the spirit of the rules. natural and orderly proceedings of the Senate. I think, on the Mr. HOAR. I simply submH, if I may be allowed a moment, whole, I am as much interested in that document as any Senator that the CoNGRESSIONAL RECORD is the record of the proceedings of can be, and I have no doubt, if I understandcorrectlytheopinions this body, and their exact character is essential to the reputation of the distinguished premier of France, that I sympathize with of every Senator on this floor . . It prevents us from being at the his views, but I feel constrained to object to the printing of the mercy of the newspapers, and it is desirable on our <)wn account speech in the RECORD. that it shall be in a form which will be read and understood by .Mr. MORGAN. I desire to complete my proposition before I the people, in a cheap, portable, convenient, and compact form . press it upon the attention of the Senate. My proposition will If we get in the habit of crowding matter into it so that you ~eta not be completed until I put the Senate in possession of the letter series of volumes like that of the Encyclopedia Britannica, as we which I have just now sent to the Secretary's desk. So I ask for are doing now, to record the proceedings of every long session of the reading of that letter, and upon that I shall predicate my the Senate, it makes the RECORD worthless, or nearly so, for the motion to print both. purpose for which it was designed. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The letter submitted by the Sen­ I selected to make this objection a document for which I have ator from Alabama will be read. the profoundest respect, and for which I desire to have the widest The Secretary read as follows: circulation. I want my people-i:(. there is any part of the coun­ TREASURY DEPARTMENT, BUREAU OF THE MINT, try" my people," and not the whole-! want the whole people to Washington, D. C., December 14, 1897. understand the grave and serious reasons which warranted the SrR: At the request of Senator JoHN T. MoRGAN of Alabama, I send you mission of which the Senator from Colorado was a part, and to the following information: . know how earnestly this matter, sometimes represented as trivial Russia. has not ceased to coin silver. It coined, in 189!, silver to the amount of only $238,861. In 1895 it coined silver amounting to the value of $3,600,192, or a pretense, lay at the heart of the great French Republic. and in 1896 the large sum of $30,985,066. Russia is now coining silver to take I have not in the objection I have made, therefore, any want of the place of the small notes. The ratio in coinage between gold and silver in respect for that document, but I have selected it as a document on Russia. is as 1 of gold to 15i of silver. Respectfully, yours, R. E. PRESTON, which to make the objection. I believe it is poor policy for all of Director of the Mint. us to crowd up this RECORD. Mr. T. G. GARRET, This document can be printed. It will not be sent in RECORD Office of the Sec1'etary of the Senate, Washington, D. C. form to a large number of people. It can be printed in document Mr. MORGAN. Mr. President, of course that paper will go form in twenty-four hours, and the number which we can print into the RECORD, because it has been read at the Secretary's desk. · by repeated orders is unlimited under the statute. That is a I desire also that the paper submitted by the honorable Senator matter within the power of the Senate, and it does seem to me from Colorado [Mr. WOLCOTT] shall go into the RECORD, for the rea­ that the objection I have made is a reasonable and just objection, son that, notwithstanding his very clear statement about the pur­ dictated by no disrespect to the Senator from Alabama. I sub­ port of the paper, we have not got a definite idea of it in the sense mit, with all respect, that it is not a fair use of the rule to compel that we want to obtain it. The paper was of sufficient value the Senate to print in the RECORD a document which we do not to attract the attention of our recent ambassadors to European desire to have read aloud here at this time, or to compel the lum­ powers and a Senator of the United States, and I can see no objec­ bering up of the RECORD with matter which it was never de­ tion at all to furnishing all of the contents of that paper to the signed it should contain. That is the reason of my objection. Of Congress of the United States and to as many people as may read course, if the Senator from Alabama chooses to rise and have this the RECORD. I can not quite understand why the Senator from paper read when he has the floor for a speech, it will be put into Massachusetts [Mr. HOAR] should make any objection to the coun­ the RECORD. try becoming possessed of this very important statement, and I The PRESIDING OFFICER. With reference to the Tequest therefore move that it be printed in the RECORD. presented by the Senator from Alabama, the Chair calls attention The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alabama asks to Rule XI, which provides that- unanimous consent that the paper presented by the Senator from Colorado, supplemented by the communication presented by the When the reading of a paper is called for, and objected to, it shall be de· Senator from Alabama, be printed in the RECORD. Is there ob- termined by a vote of the l::lenate, without debate. jection? Under that rule, the Ghair holds that the question of the read- Mr. HOAR. I desire to object to the printing in the RECORD of ing of the paper requested by the Senator from Alabama shall be a long address. Let it be printed as a separate document. I do so decided by a vote of the Senate. not object to printing the communication of the Senator from Mr. HOAR. I will withdraw the objection in deference to the Alabama. · 1 high character and my p:rofound respect for the Senator from Ala- M.r. MORGAN. I did not ask unanimous consent. I made a bama. If, after I have stated my reasons, he persists in his re- motion to print, quest, I shall not persist in the objection. Mr. HOAR. I did not make any objection to that. Mr. MORGAN. Well, Mr. President, I insist upon my request. Mr. MORGAN. I say, as to the printing in the RECORD, I made The PRESIDING OFFICER. There being no objection, the a motion to that effect, and I desire that that motion shall be sub- Secretary will read as requested. mitted to the Senate. Mr. WOLCOTT. Mr. President, I understand the Senator Mr. HOAR. Very well, then; let the motion go over until to- from Massachusetts [Mr. HoAR] has withdrawn his objectio.n to morrow, under the rule. the request of the Senator from Alabama [Mr. MoRGAN] that the Mr. MORGAN. Well, Mr. President, I call for the re-ading of paper be printed in the RECORD. the paper. We do not know what it is. I should like to say, if I may, to the Senator from Massachu- Mr. HOAR. Let that gQ over until to-morrow, under the rule. setts, that the translation I have submitted is of a portion only of '!'he PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alabama [Mr. the speech of M. Meline; that it is not long, and that, while the 1\:IORGAN] moves that the document presented be printed in the request is unusual, I believe the speech to have been of a most RECORD. The Senat-or from Massachusetts [Mr. HoAR], invoking unusual and important character, and of such a nature that there the rulea, requests that the motion go over until to-morrow. It would be, I think, in the breast of the Senator from Massachusetts, 200 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. ·, DECEMBER 16, no feeling that the proper uses of the RECORD had been abused to Havre than from Paris to Marseilles. It was inevitable that this annihila· tion of space should result in a diminution of prices. . when he sees the remarks in print. Does this cause alone suffice to explain the general decline which I have Mr. COCKRELL. Let it be printed in the RECORD and as a pointed out? For my vart, I do not think so, and for two reasons. separate document. In the first place, this cause is only applicable to those products which I will call international exchanges. ·with regard to the main prorluct3 whlch The PRESIDING OFFICER. There being no objection to the circulate from one end of the world to the other, such as wheat, for instance, request of the Senator from Alabama, the document referred to it is certain that prices have been considerably affected by tbe reduction in will be printed in tho RECORD. the cost of transportation; but this can not b e said of the immense variety of local products which do not cross the boundaries of tho country, which com­ Mr. COCKRELL. And also as a document. pete only the one with the other, and which are scarcely touched bv foreign The PRESIDING OFFICER. That has been previously or­ competition. It is a fact that these local crops have been involved in the dered. general depression. The translation of the speech referred to is as follows: Mr. JAUR~s. What are these local crops? Mr. lliLINE. I beg that you will allow me to proceed without interruption. [Portion of a speech of :M. Meline, president of the council and minister of Mr. JAURES. We simply ask what are these local crops which are not agriculture, delivered in the French Chamber of Deputies on the 20th of touched by foreign competition. November, 1897.] Mr. MELI?\'E. Is the potato affected by international competition? No; and yet domestic competition does touch it. GENTLEME"Y: Last week I endeavored to show that the remedy proposed There is a second 1·eason which prevents our attributing a decisive influ­ by the socialists for the prevailing agricultural distress is worse than the ence to the reduction in transportation; it is, that prices have continued to disease, and would only aggravate the evil by destroying the principle of fall during several years, although freight rates remained unchange1. We individual proprietorship, which is the essentialfactor in the power of resist­ have seen a marked diminution in the cost of transportation, but this has ance of our agricultural mterest in the uneven contest which it must sustain. come to a halt. It is apparent that the fall in agricultural products, on the I think I proved that collectivist proprietorship would be a. retrogression contrary, is unchecked. and a positive relapse into barbarism. I acknowledge that socialism would We must therefore seek elsewhere and seeking we have found. We at thus attain its ends; the wealthy class would cease to exist. but the poor once discover another cause, one well bown in the indu trial world, where would be poorer; that would be the only result a! this social revolution which it plays an important part, and which is called overproduction. The inquiry is heralded with so much clamor. has been made whether it was to overprod uction that was due this deprecia­ To-day I wish to oppose to the collectivist solution of this problem our so­ tion in all produce. There is no doubt that it has greatly contributed thereto, lution, which differs at all points from theirs. although It is here of less importance than in the case of manufacture,, since In the first place our methods differ. We do not start from an ideal con­ the mode of production is essentially different. In manufactures pro:luction ception; from an a priori assumption. We observe facts; we follow, step by may be extended indefinitely; factories may be built without limit; ma· step, the development of the a~ricultural crisis, and we seek to apply, little chinery is perfected from day to day, and in proportion to the improvements by little, such correctives as W1ll diminish the sufferings of our rural popu­ made is the increase in production. Mother Earth p erforms no such won­ lation. In order to discover the remedy it is necessary to ascertain the cause, ders; her surface is limited, and she can not multiply her returns beyond or rather t:tie causes, of the disease. This is the first question which I must the boundaries fixed by nature. Agricultural overproduction, therefore, investigate before this honorable body. does not bring about the same results a.s industrial overproduction. Where is the root of the agricultural crisis? A slight examination of the However, I will not deny that with a certain number of a.gricultur not fallen, although a slight diminution of the price received by the producer. I atn, therefore, it bas greatly declined in relation to gold. This brin,gs about two results clearly justified in the deduction that the fall has been generaL favorable to India and unfavorable to England, at least until prices find their In order to estimate the importance of this decline in values, and ascertain level. Cultivation in India is favored at the expense of the wheat grower in the extent of the damage to agriculture, we must multiply the unit of price England, and in the same way the Indian manufacturer is favored at the of each product by the total production for the year. We thus reach the expense of English manufacturers. alarming conclusion that in fifteen years the total receipts of agriculture fell •• '.rbe English manufacturer suffers through the exchange. As to tbe Eng· half a billion of francs. lish farmer, he sells his wheat; cheaper, in proportion, than the ryot~,.because I ask you, gentlemen, what industry could face such a situation without the price remains the same in India, while it has fallen in England. 1n India, drifting into bankruptcy? It needed all the courage, thEI thrift, the industry, a silver country, prices remain stationary; in England, a gold country, prices and, I may add, the invincible attachment of our farmers to the soil to enable fall." them to con.."ront so desperate a condition. These conclusions, arlived at by the high commission appointed by the Brit­ I have shown that the crisis through which we are passing is almost with­ ish Government, have since been formally confirmed by the reports both of out precedent. It is true there can be found in all epochs periods of decline the British and French consuls. The same thesis was notably maintained by in the value of land produce. From all time there have been crises in the Mr. Jamieson, British consul-general at Shanghai, in his well-known pamphlet agricultural interest; but they have always, or almost alway;;, been partial on the silver question in Europe and Asia. Our own consul-general for Japan, and transitory; they affected a limited number of articles and were of short .M.1·. Klobukowski, briefly set forth the same views. duration. For the first time, I believe, the world witnesses a prolonged crisis The fact can not be denied, and the cause may be easily traced. Sil >er has affecting all agricultural products. retained its full value in the countries having a. silver standard, while gold Having disclosed one, although but a secon(!ary, cause of the evil, let us has risen, because it alone preserves the privilege of free coinage, and thus endeavor to trace out the primary cause, the true source of this phenomenal becomes the sole money of international exchange, while silver becomes a and unparalleled decline. . simple commodity. Thus all articles of commerce valued in gold have neces­ This is the second question to be investigated. sarily fallen, since with the same amount in gold one may now purchase twice A patient study of the various influences which have contributed to pro­ the quantity of goods. duce this decline of values reveals the fact that it does not flow from one I bring this observation to the attention of the Chamber; it contains, one source alone. Nothing can be more dangerous in such investig11tions than to may say, the germ of the monetary question. I will not dwell upon this attempt the forcing of results to fit vreconceived theories. Without doubt, question to-day, and you will readily divine my reason-it would carry me there are several factors to be considered, and I shall endeavor to briefly too far. The opportunity will doubtless present itself for me some day to outline them. break a lance mth the monometallists. The first to force itself upon our attention, by reason of its magnitude, is, I am, however, ready to concede to them all that they may ask as to the unouestionably, the evolution-! shouldsaythe revolution-in modes oftrans­ advantages of gold. I willingly acknowledge that it is sound money par ex­ por;tation during the last twenty years. The multiplicity of its forms and the cellence, the best, the most convenient medium of exchange; that it is greatly rapidity and cheapness of transportation have effected an inevitable reduc­ to be desired that there had never been any other money in the world, and tion in the prices of produce. Fo1·merly distance was a barrier; to-day that that it is the money of the future. barrier ha.s dis..'\ppearcd. All markets are brought within such easy com­ But the monometallists, unfortunately, ca.rrnotwipe out the fact that there munication that they may be regarded, for practical purposes, as one great are 900.000,000 human beings who know only silver, nse only silver, trade only general market, and in consequence prices have, by the natural law, found with silver, and do not want gold. their lowest level. Those countries which can produce most cheaply to-day, Facing these 900,elopment of their in­ that message he recommends and comments on the proceedings dustries, we must not be surprised to see some day the balance turn in their of a conference, or corrvention, which was held in Indianapolis favor, to the great detriment of the nations now so proud of their gold last January. . standard. . We are, unfortunately, powerless to decide this question single-handed; it When we examine the proceedings of that convention, we find i a problem of international importance. No government can solve it accord­ that they recommended a perpetual gold standard, and all they ing wits own news; it can only urge the solution which it deems preferable. proposed was legislation to carry t hat recommendation into effect. On this point! thinkwehavedoneour duty, for lam not accustomed whon in power to abandon the convictions which I have clways upheld. This year To accomplish that the Indianapolisgold convention, or whatever we were offered the opportunity of joining the 'United States in a diplomatic it may be called, said it was necessary to ha>e a commission. and effort to induce a neighboring country to assist in measures looking to a they appointed a committee to wait on Congress and the President reestablishment of a fixed relation between sil>cr and gold, and we made the experiment. We did not demand the free coinage of silver, which does not of the United States to secure the appointment of a. commission to seem to be indispensable; we but asked for a concer"t of measures calculated carry into effect their recommendation for the perpetuation of the to establish this fixed relation, and to terminate the monetary anarchy which gold standard. The other House passed a bill for that pul'pose. now reigns in the world, and which convulses international trade. I do not hesitate to &'ly that we failed. I do not, however, r egret the step; The President recommended the two Houses to pass a bill allowing it was a wiso one, and its results will show hereafter. For I am convinced him toappointa commissiontocarryouttheplan of that Indianapo­ that the day will come when the force of circumstances will compel the na­ lis convention, which is a. perpetuation of the goJ d standard. This tions of Europe to fl>.ce the problem and eolve it. I hope that until that day dn.wns humanity will not suffer from the >acillations which continually post­ conference, in case they could not succeed in getting Congress and pone the decision of so important a question. [Great applause.] the President to act and to appoint a commission. appointed a com­ mission of their own, with ex-Senator Edmunds at its bead, and :Mr. STEWART obtained the floor. they are fulminating a plan to perpetuate the gold standard. Mr. ALLEN. Will the Senator yield to me for a moment? They are about through with their labors, and the Indianapolis 1\lr. STEWART. I wish to make some remarks about the res­ conference is summoned to appear again in a few days. olution. We have here now, sitting in this city, the National Board of :M.r. ALLEN. Very well; I do not want to postpone the Sena­ Trade, representing all the banks and perhaps some other interests. tor's remm·ks. Yesterday they decided most positively that the single gold stand­ :Mr. STEWART. Mr. President, at the time the monetary com­ ard should be perpetuated. The Secretary of the Treasury has mission was provided for by law I expressed the opinion that it gone on with his recommendations for the gold. standard. He has would necessarily be a failure-that no arrangement could possi­ submitted his plans, and every plan, every suggestion, which bly be made. I also expressed the opinion that it was much bet­ comes froth him, is to perpetuate the gold standard in this counh·y. ter for the United States to n.ct independently; that foreign com- · How could it be possible that our commission could be success­ plicatiollS with regru.-d to our domestic affairs were objectionable, ful abroad when high officers of the Trea.sm·y Department, with if not dangerous. I am happy to say that the success of the com­ the sanction of the President of the United States, were advocat­ mission in securing the cooperation of France has surpassed my ing the perpetuation of the gold standard a.s against bimetallism hopes. I state what I believe to be the concurrence of opinion­ in any form? it certainly is among all with whom I have conversed-that the :More than all that, a large portion of the gold press attacked commission discharged their duties faithfully and with as much our commission to Europe before it started, and continued to do success as could have been anticipated. so and ridicule its project to attempt to induce Europe to adopt I did not believe that England would ever consent to any ar­ bimetallism when, as they claimed, this country was in favor of rangement in favor of the free coinage of silver, and I am still of the perpetual gold standard. If the Administration is in favor of that opinion. She is going on making proselytes for gold wher­ anything, if there is anything in its policy that is now demon­ ever she can. While these negotiations were pending she secured strated beyond controversy or peradventure, it is that the Admin­ the placing of Japan upon a gold basis. Japan has adopted the istration is committed to the perpetuation of the gold standard. gold standard, according to reports from all sources, through the Mr. CHANDLER. Will the Senator allow me a word? instigation of England. Of course this has destroyed Japan. She Mr. STEWA R T. Certainly. is now banln'Upt. She was in a thriving condition, and emerged, Mr. CHANDLER. Certainly the :5enator does not wish to do as it were, from a. state of semibarbarism to become a shining any injustice to any individual or any body of men. mark in the Orient, and was about to assume the position of one Mr. STEWART . Not at all. of the first-class powers. Mr. CHANDLER. The Secretary of the Treasury has not said A year ago last spring, in her official reports, she attributed her that anywhere; the P resident has not said that anywhere. The marvelous success in every direction-in manufactures, in agri­ Senator is arguing upon a basis of fact which does not appear. I culture in commerce-to cheap silver and the difference of ex­ have the message of the President of the United States to which change. It was stated in that report that she had been a child the Senator has alluded, calling attention to the monetary com­ compared with Europe and America as to manufactures, but she mission, and he commends the report to the cons:deration of Con­ was a giant compared with other countries. With her advantage gress; but nowhere bas Secretary Gage or the President said that of cheap sil-ver, she was able to achieve great triumphs, and was the Administration was in favor of the gold standard. The acts marching forward in prosperity. Within six months from that of theAdministl:ation are all in the other direction and in favor of time, through some occult influence, she adopted the gold stand­ bimetallism. ard, and her revenues fell off, according to the reports in the Mr. STEWART. I beg the Senator's pardon. The mes:;,age newspapers, $2J,OOO,OOO. Now she is in the market to borrow was sent in at the suggestion of the Indianapolis conference, and 45,000,000 yen. This shows the effect the adoption of the gold the President commend.'! to the consideration of Congress tht' standard has had upon her. Japan is bankrupt from this hour. Indianapolis plan, and the Indianapolis plan was the single gold Before this occurred she was quite arrogant and disposed to take standard per se. There is nothing else in it, and the only thing a stand in opposition to us. There is no talk about that anymore. that is left to be done is to retire the greenbacks. Mr. Gage has She is a nation of the past; she will lapse into her condition of the time and time again in his plan suggested the retirement not only past very rapidly. . of the greenbacks, but of the Sherman notes and of the silver cer­ England remains unfriendly to bimetallism, as I supposed she tificates. He wants them aJ.l to be put in a redemption division would. England, however, was laboring under special stress of and only paid out for gold. He wants to put them in a mass and circumstances during the past year, when our delegation aod the get rid of them, and the only thing they are discussing is bow French delegation appeared there. Her revenues from India they can make the transition and get rid of all Government were interrupted not only by famine, but by the difference of issues. . exchange that was compelling the Indian people to bolTOW money If Mr. Gage has argued in favor of anything, he has argued to carry on their government; and it looked as if England would in favor of that ad nauseam; if the Board of Trade here argues in be compelled to do something. The rumor came that the officers favor of anything, it stands for the gold standard per se; and if of the Bank of England proposed to keep one-fifth of their reserve the Indianapolis convention means anything, and if language in silver. Amid all this good news, which held out as much hope means anything, that ·is the foundation of their whole scheme, as could be expected from England, when the negotiationR were and the only thing left for Congress to do is to get rid of a.U pending, and before they were decided, the action of the Admin­ Government issues and return to gold, as argued by the entire istration on this side of the Atlantic was certainly very discour­ Administration forces. Why is it necessary for them to say we aging to our commission. are for the gold standard when they say we are going to get rid of The Secretary of the Treasury, the Comptroller of the Currency, all Government issues and have nothing in circulation but gold and the Director of the Mint, from the hour the commission left and have everything redeemable in gold? the wharf at New York, proclaimed that they were for the single It has been suggested in this plan that we retire the greenbacks; gold standard and for perpetuating it against all odds. Just at that all greenbacks when paid in shall be only paid out again for 202 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECE:Ml3ER 16, gold. The President suggests in his message that that shall be think it can be easily proven, if it comes to the test, that he is de­ done when the Tevenue shall be equal to the expenditures. Then cidedly opposed to it. I have been so told by numbers of men he says the greenbacks should be impounded and only paid out who have talked with him. He is opposed to it, and his whole for gold. What is that but the gold standard? That is the. only scheme shows that he is. The scheme he laid before the Cabinet fair construction to be placed upon his language. Of course he is as inconsistent with international bimetallism as is night with did not elaborate the idea as fully as his Secretary of the Treasury, day; and the idea that he cannot be opposed to it because he is advo­ but he did not repudiate what the Secretary of the Treasury said, cating another policy is untenable. A man advocates protection. and if they are not advocates of the retirement of all Government You say he does not say he is opposed to free trade; but if he is issues except gold, then they advocate turning the whole thing advocating protection you would not think he is a very good free over to the banks; and if the whole fraternity are not advocating trader. So it is in this case. Mr. Gage advocates the single gold that, then the English language is a lie, for they all say that. standard for this country, the retirement of all Government Mr.. ALLEN . Will the Senator from Nevada permit me to in­ issues, and the turning over of the whole matter of money to the terrupt him? banks. If that is not equivalent to a declaration against interna­ Mr. STEWART. Certainly. tional bimetallism, then I do not understand the English language; Mr. ALLEN. I did not understand distinctly the request of and the President in alluding kindly in his m essage to the Indi­ the Senator from Colorado. It occurs to me that we ought to anapolis conference, with his approval, is doing something en­ know what he desires before we proceed, and if the resolution tirely inconsistent with international bimetallism. goes on the Calendar, where it will go in a few minutes-- We would have had a test whether international bimetallism Mr. STEWART. I am speaking generally. In a few minutes were possible if the Administration had stood by the commission. I will be through. I understand the request is to have the reso­ I do not believe we would have accomplished it then. We might lution go over until some time in January, which is very proper. have accomplished it. We certainly can not accomplish itl there Mr. ALLEN. What does the Senator say to having a distinct is no use talking of it, so long as the Administration takes a posi­ statement from the Senator from Colorado as to his wishes before tion diametrically opposed to international bimetallism. So long we proceed further with the debate? as it is in favor of perpetuating the gold standard here, it is op­ Mr. STEWART. I understand what I have stated to be his posed to bimetallism in any form. wish. Mr. CHANDLER. Will the Senator bear in mind that the ut­ Mr. ALLEN. I do not know that the Senator from Colorado terance which binds the President of the United States is the utter­ made any distinct suggestion. ance of his message? The Senator knows what is in the message Mr. STEWART. He made a suggestion of that kind. of the President of the United States. Will he allow me to have Mr. WOLCOTT. My embarrassment in the matter arises from read a part of the utterance of the President? the fact that I do not think I have any right here, speaking as a Mr. STEWART. Yes, sir; I will allow it to be read. I know Senator, not speaking officially, to make a request that the reso­ what it is. He expresses in that message kindly feelings and grati­ lution shall go over. I can only leave it to the good jb.dgment of fication at the action of France, but he does not express disappro­ the Senator from Nebraska. All I can say I hope to be able to bation of the hostile action of his own Administration. He does state soon after the recess, and I think it is very possible the Sen­ not regret that he could not have the cooperation of his own Cabi­ ator may then desire to modify or change or perhaps enlarge the net. That is what I complain of in the message. resolution. . :Mr. CHANDLER. That is all inference. The Senator infers Mr. ALLEN. Does the Senator from Colorado believe the com­ that Secretary Gage is against the policy and plan of the President. mission will be able to report or to make some definite statement Where the President stands appears from the statement in his by the 15th of January? message, which the Senator from Nevada has kindly agreed to al­ Mr. WOLCOTT. I do not think the commission intend to low to be read. make any report at this time, so far as I know, but of course such Mr. STEWART. Let it be read, and I will comment on it. It a report would not be made here in the Senate. is right in the line of my thought. · Mr. ALLEN. I understand; but will it be made to the Presi­ The Secretary read as follows: dent of the United States. so that we can obtain it from him? [From the message of December 6, 1897.] Mr. WOLCOTT. That I am not in a position to say at this Under the provisions of the act of Congress approved .March 3, 1897, for the time. promotion of an international a,greement respectmg bimetallism! I appointed Mr. ALLEN. Then the request of the Senator from Colorado on the 14th day of April 1897, Ron. EDWARD 0. WOLCOTT, of Co orado, Ron. Adlai E. Stevenson, of :i:iliii.ois, and Ron. Charles J. Paine, of Massachusetts, is very indefinite. I am inclined~ so far as I am concerned, to let as special envoys to represent the United States. They have been diligent the resolution pass over to a fixed date next month, if there is any in their efforts to secure the concurrence and cooperation of European coun­ hope or expectation that a report will be made to the President tries in the international settlement of the question, but up to this time have not been able to secure an agreement contemplated by their mission. and that we will be able to obtain the report. The gratifying action of our great sister Republic of France in joining this Mr. WOLCOTT. I will say to the Senator from Nebraska that country in an attempt to bring about an agreement among the principal com­ I know nothing which would indicate that such a report will be mercial nations of Europe whereby a fixed and relative value between gold and silver shall be secured furnishes a-ssurance that we are not alone among made by the middle of next month. the larger nations of the world in realizing the international character of the Mr. ALLEN. Then I think we ought to press the resolution. Prroblem and in the desire of reaching some wise and practical solution of it. Mr. STEWART. If there is any doubt about the position of :rhe British Government has publishedaresumeof the steps taken jointly by the French ambassador in London and the special ·envoys of the United the Administration, of Mr. Gage, of the Director of the Mint, of States with whom our ambassador at London actively cooperated in the pre­ the Comptroller of the Currency, and of their assistants and of sentatiOn1 of this subject to Her Majesty's Government. This will be laid the representatives of the banks, or of the Edmunds commission before Congress. Our special envoys hav13 not made their final report, as further negotia­ on this question, that their ultimate object is to retire all Govern­ tions between the representatives of this Government and the Governments m ent issues and turn the whole business over to the banks and of other countries are pendin~ and in contemplation. They believe that adhere to the gold standard, I am prepared to argue it with the doubts which have been raised m certain quarters respecting the !>Osition of maintaining the stability of the parity between the metals and kindred ques­ documents. If anybody questions it, I should like to proceed this tions may yet ba solved by further negotiations. afternoon or some time to argue it with the documents, because Meanwhile it gives me satisfaction to state that the special envoys have I propose to prove by documentary evidence every step taken in ah·eady demonstrated their ability and fitness to deal with the subject and it is to be earnestly hoped that their labors may r esult in an internatiOnal1 this matter. agreement which will bring about recognition of both gold and silver as Mr. CHANDLER. The Senator from Nevada does not point at money upon such terms and with such safeguards as will secure the use of last to anything that Secretary Gage says or the President says both metals upon a. basis which shall work no injustice to any class of our which justifies him in saymg they ar,t3 for the gold standard when citizens. they profess to be in favor of international bimetallism. Mr. STEWART. Mr. President, that portion of the message Mr. STEWART. I deny that. just read has two eyes, one looking toward Wall and Lombard Mr. CHANDLER. The Senator goes on and argues from cer­ streets and the other looking toward the betrayed people of the tain acts and facts that that is the real intention. United States. The hypocrisy of declaring his gratification at the Mr. STEWART. I deny- action of France favoring bimetallism w bile he tolerated the action Mr. CHANDLER. The Senator will let me go on for a mo­ of Gage, Eckels, Preston, and other Treasury officials opposing in­ ment. The Senator goes on to argue from certain acts and cer­ ternational bimetallism or bimetallism in any form, is humiliating tain facts that that is the real feeling and view of the Secretary of to American manhood. Why should the President speak kindly the 11:easury. and the President, and he argues that the effect of of the commission which he betrayed when he commended the sin­ these various recommendations as to the currency and as to green­ gle gold standard plan of the Indianapolis conference to Congress. backs i::; in the direction of acquiescing in the gold standard. at the critical point when a favorabe answer was anticipated What I desire to guard against is the inference that these con.,. from Great Britain? elusions of the Senator from Nevada are the expressions of Secre­ What we object to on the part of the Administration is its per­ tary Gage or of the President, because they are not, and the Senator sistent double dealing in giving the international bimetallists himself will so admit. honeyed words, while the whole power of his Administration and Mr. STEWART. Mr. Gage has never uttered a word publicly all the aiders and abettors of the gold standard are deliberately that has been printed in favor of international bimetallism, and I engaged in promoting legislation to perpetuate the single gold 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 203 standard in this country and to make international -bimetallism in two separate reports. If the efficacy or value of a document is impossible. If the Administration wol+ld boldly proclaim that to be estimated by the length of it, it is obvious to every intelli­ the pretense in the St. Louis platform in favor of international gent mind that the man who can write the fastest or talk the bimetallism was a fraud to deceive the American people and place fastest will have a very-great advantage in the contest. the Republican party in power, to perpetuate the gold standard in I take it that the reports of the Bureau of Labor are somewhat this country, the President would be liberated from the necessi~y different in character from the reports of the Census Bureau, and of living a transparent subterfuge. that if a careful examination is had it v;ill be found that a calcu­ Mr. ALLEN. If l can have the attention of the Senator from lation made upon the basis used by ]Ir. Wright will be a very Co1orado, I will state that I am not disposed to press the resolution faulty comparison, to say the least. - at this time if the Senator is prepared to say that by or shortly 1\Ir. Wright, in his letter, goes further than the Senator from after the 15th of next month a fuller statement will be made by Massachusetts canied him in his contention yesterday. He goes him, or by some person representing the commission, as to the on to show that not only might there have been a saving of progress made looking toward international bimetallism, and I $2,000.000, but that even the large amount of $6,421,245 might should like to have that report or statement indicate to the Senate have been saved out of a total of i;i10,000,000 if the work had been and to the country whether, within a reasonable time, if the nego­ carried on under the rules of the Civil Service Commission. He tiations are not successful, they will cease and we will have a final makes one comparison which leads him to that conclusion, and report of the mission. then he makes a second calculation which leads him to the con­ Mr. WOLCOTT. I wish to say to the Senator from Nebraska clusion that a saving of $3,372,025.21 might have been made. that there is not any desire on anybody's part to prolong negotia­ Mr. President, I have the highest possible personal regard for tions a single day beyond the period when there is still great hope Mr. Wright. He is a citizen of my State; he is a man who has remaining that something may be accomplished. the confidence of the country; he is a gentleman who has devoted Mr. ALLEN. Yes. his life to statistical matters, and I would not in a Hght way call Mr. WOLCOTT. I think there is no one member of the mission into question any statement he may have made to the country or who would be willing that for an hour the matter should be left to. an individual Senator; but I must here publicly express my pending if a final conclusion either one way or the other had been surprise that an official so eminent in his special line of work reached or could be announced. should have, somewhat carelessly, I think, placed before the coun­ Mr. ALLEN. Mr. President, I think this matter ought not to try a statement that will, I feel sure, not bear careful scrutiny and be left in the air, and that there ought to be a reasonable -time examination upon its merits. fixed when some fuller and more complete statement will be made Mr. Wright put Mr. Porter in the attitude of having wasted the as to the work of the commission. I trust that a report will be public money, not because of any act of his own, but simply be­ made, and I hope it will be made in accordance with the act cre­ cause he was working under a system that is vicious. Mr. Porter ating the commission, and that we will be able ·to get that report is know~ to the Senate, he is known to the country, and I never from the President of the United States in time to enable us to before heard it charged that his work as Superintendent of the formulate and pass appropriate legislation. Census was performed extravagantly. It is true that Mr. Porter It is not necessary for me to say here, as I have repeatedly said, has stated, in a magazine article, that in his opinion the clerks that I regard international bimetallism as a dream, a mere ideality; ought to have been under the civil service, and in the Philadelphia that it is an impossibility; but if the commissioners can bring it Inquirer of yesterday he repeats that statement, but it is qualified about, I am perfectly wilting they should. by the assertion that the clerical force should have been put under Now, in deference to the wishes of the Senator from Colorado, I the classified service, not because efficient work could not be se­ am willing that the resolution shall pass over until the morning cured in the other way, but because there would have been less hour of the 15th day of next month or the next legislative day clamor in the country if it had been done. thereafter. I am willing that it shall be passed over with that Mr. Porter, in the Philadelphia Inquirer, calls in question the understanding. statements as to a possible saving of $2,000,000. I will read what The PRESIDING OFFICER. In the absence of objection, that he says on that point: will be the order. Some very wild and ridiculous statements have been going the rounds in TWELFTH AND SUBSEQUENT CENSUSES. relation to the money which could have been saved had the Eleventh Census been placed under the civil service. The figure was started sometime ago Mr. GALLINGER. I desire to ask consent at this time to at $2,000,000, but has gradually been growing and has blossomed out since the make a brief statement touching upon certain questions which present discussion has come up into a cold 3,000,000. were discussed yesterday by the Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. That is less than Mr. Wright places it in either of the estimates LODGE], and, if necessary, I will ask that the bill which was then which he has made.and submitted to me in writing. - under consideration may be laid before the Senate for that pur­ If this keeps on, those who believe the civil service a cure for all govern­ pose. I propose to occupy a very few moments of time, but I desire men tal ills will soon be able to demonstrate that if the work of 1900 is only put to put in the RECORD a matter which I think is of importance. under the direction of a scientific statistician and under the civil service it will The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair lays before the Senate absolutely cost nothing. the bill indicated, which will be read by title. Then Mr. Porter goes on to show the different appropriations The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, resumed the consid­ that were made by Congress, and he comes to the conclusion, eration of the bill (S. 94) to provide for the Twelfth and subse­ which I think is not capable of being successfully refuted, that of quent censuses. the amounts that were appropriated there was only 53,612,667.14 Mr. GALLINGER. Mr. President, it was my purpose yester­ left which by any possibility could have been influenced by the day, when the junior Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. LODGE] clerical force had it been operating under the rules of the civil concluded his speech on the much-mooted question of civil-service service. The remainder of the appropriations was absolutely out­ reform, to make reply to it, but the hour was so late that I aban­ side of the civil service, even had the work of the Eleventh Census doned that purpose. At a late1· day, when the matter is before been conducted underthe directionof thethree distinguished gen­ the Senate, either on an appropriation bill or upon the bill which tlemen known as Civil Service Commissioners, who seem to be has just been laid before this body, I will take occasion to express running the Government to-day. Now, if that be true, and I take my views on the subject. it Mr. Porter knows what he is talking about, it is a very remark­ I rise this morning, Mr. President, merely for the purpose of able circumstance that out of an appropriation of S3,612,667.14we calling attention to the statement of Hon. Carroll D. Wright, could have saved either $3,372,025.21 or $6,421,245, according to Commissioner of Labor, in reference to the last census. I have calculations made by Mr. Wright. in my hand a letter identical with the one which the Senator from Mr. Porter says that he is perfectly willing to discuss the ques­ Massachusetts used yesterday, written to me in reply to a note tion on its merits, but when those who pretend to be in favor of addressed to Mr. Wright several weeks ago, asking him upon honest and efficient government indulge in misrepresentations, what information he based his ~tatement that if the last census such as some newspapers do which wildly demand civil service had been taken under the rules of the Civil Service Commission for the Census Office, it makes one lose faith in the truthfulness $2,000,000 would have been saved to the country. Mr. Wright, and honesty of these self-appointed guardians of the public service. under date of December 11, very elaborately answers my question, I think it is proper that this statement of Mr. Porter should go and apparently is of opinion that the statement he made was a to the country side by side with the statement that formed the very modest one, and that even a much larger sum than 82,000,000 basis of the very earnest argument of the junior Senator from would have been saved had the census been taken under civil­ Massachusetts yesterday. As I said before, I will content myself service rules. to-day with this observation, and at a later date I will call attention Mr. Wright bases his calculation largely and almost exclusively to some other features of so-called civil-servica reform that I upon the difference in the cost of matter per page as between the think it may be well for us to discuss during the present session reports of the Census and the Labor Bureau. I have some little of Congress. knowledge of printing. and I confess astonishment that an officer Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to print a portion of the of the Government should undertake to make a mathematical communication, signed by Mr. Porter, in the RECORD. calculation upon the relative number of nonpareil ems of matter The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection to the request 204 CONGRESSION.A.-L RECORD- SENATE. DECEMBER 16, of the Senator from New Hampshire, that the article referred to S-!,612,GG7.U was pa.id to this class of employees. We have, therefore, 83,612,­ (;67.14 left, and of this it is claimed in some quarters $3.000.1Y.X>, and in others be printed in the RECORD? The Chair hears none. $!?.000,000, could ha>e been saved had the force been examined by the Civil The m·ticle referred to is as follows: t::ervice Board instead of by the efficient gentlemen appointed by t.he t3ecra­ tary of the Interior to perform this function. ROBERT P. PORTErt'S NEW YORK LETTER-WIIill CIVIL SERVICE OBTAIY I~ Toward the latter days of the work, when reenforcement" for three months, THE SELECTION OF CE::'ice exr..rn.iiw.tion, or who :tad' not been thoroughly and present discussion has come up into a cold $3,000,000. lf this keeps on, those fairly examined by a board oonsistin6 of men of the hig-h st character, t>-o who believe the civil service a cure for ill ::wvernmental ills will soon be able of whom are now occupying honorable '{JOsitio;Js in the (+overnment service, to demoustrate thn.t i.E the work of 1000 is only put under the directiou of a and all three of whom are thorou"'h believers in the merit sy.<.-tcm. scientific statistician and under tho civil service 1t will absolutely ccst noth­ I am p!!ljectly willing to discuss ~'te question on its ?netits, but must confesa, ing. Let us look a.t the facts and see how three, or even two, million dollars when those u:ho pretend to be in favm· of honest government and efficient (JOIJ­ can _be saved in taking the '.rwelfth Census by putting i t under the civil el·nment inclulge in such paragraphs as the following, whicl~ I find in. a ?H!1t:? servioe. ·when it is stated. that this amount was lost or expended unl!o~s­ pa_per, wildly demanding cidl service fm· the Cens-u.s O.fjice, it malce.s one loae sarily by the El9venth Census, the inference is that it can be s.·wed for the fatt!l in. the truthft~lncss and honesty of these self-appointed guardians of the Twelfth Census if we only put it.under the civil service. Up to October 31, pl!lJiic service: 1897, the totl>.l a-;>proprja.tions for the expenses of the Eleventh Census were "The public knows something of the faults of the Eleventh Censu.c;. It as follows: knows that an immense amount of money was wasted; that $12,000 000 wa.s Expenses Eleventh Census. expended when s;J,UJll,OOO would ha>e sufficed; that the Census Bureau TI"as made a partisan Republican body, filled with narrow partisans, and largely r::~ls\~~~~ ~ ~ ~: ~: ~ w1t,h political bums and hangers on who wanted work." :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: $k To begin with, I hn.ve shown that tho Eleventh Census proper (that is, ex­ clndinz printing, engraving, and binding, and farms, homes, and mortgages) cost only $8.635,li3S.&i up to the 31st of last October. ~~it ~~1:t~==~:=~::~~=~:==~~~ ~ =====~======~~=== ~== =~=~:======~=== i: ~: ~: ~ That of this, !)tl)(},5.3'!.10 was paid to supervisors, and to enumerators $2,49.'>,­ ~.07. Th'=l cost of this work alone for the Twelfth Census will probably exceed SJ,UOO,OOO. If the inquiries of the Eleventh Census are not required by Congress, two millions can b9 saved in this way, and the cost of tlle Twelfth Census brought down to from S9.000,0t0 to $10,000.000. The man who ~~~:;.:--_:::\~_( __ ~(~---\f;~~j __ :j_(i\.\\l-l\-li-jj~~ ~:ii undertakes to do the work for less than this fif.!U-1'e will fail. A saving can also be effected by giving plenty of time to preliminary work, and this Con­ Traru;fcrred fi'om farms, homes, and mortgages, act August gress seems inclined to do. 23, 189-!------·------1, 9.59. 20 Mr. PRITCHARD. :Mr. President, I desire to submit a few Receipts under section 23, act of March 1, 1889 ______-----· ---- 1,G20.14 remarks in this connection with respect to the modification of the Tota.l . ______---- ______---· 8, 683, 741. 84 civil service. Therehas been a great deal of talk in regard to the Disbursements to October 31, 1897 ·----~ ------· _------··· 8, 688,636.88 declaration contained in the Republican platform with respect to Balance on hand ____ ------104.96 the law. There is nothing to be found in the Republican plat­ There is every penn.y appropriated by Congress for the census proper. In form which in the least interferes with the honest enforcement of addition to this, eongress, in its wisdom, made the following appropriation the merit system. The declaration in question reads as follows: for a suecial investig;ation iuto the indlYidual mortgage indebtedness of the peopleof the Unitea States. The Superintendent of the Eleventh Census The civil-servi~ law was placed on the statute book by the Republican opposed this inqniry, because of its probable cost, and because such inquisi­ party, which has always sustained it, and we renew our repeated declaration torial inquiries make the Census Office unpopular. He was, however, ovel·­ that it sball be thoroughly and honestly enforced and extended wherever ruled, and Congress made the following appropriations for this specific pur­ practicable. pose: This declaration indicates by implication that the law had not .Apzn-opriations, "Fa1-n1s, homes, and mortgages." been honestly enforced by the Democratic party during the late 1:~~ fu:~~~S,)_~-1~~: ::-_-_::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: $1,

promulgated by Mr. Cleveland, in which I claim that he acted SEc. 45. It ~hall be t~e dut¥ of the ~blic Printer to employ workmen who are thorou~hly skilled m the1r respectiVe branches of industry as shown by without authority of law, I call the attention of the Senate to the trial of thell' skill under hi directiOn. ' following facts in relation thereto: SEC. 4.8. The Public Printer may empioy two clerks of class 4, at an annual First. Deputy collectors of internal revenue and customs were salary of $1,800 each; two clerks of class 3, at $1,600 each per annum; one clerk of class 2, at Sl,4:00 per annum_ placed in the classified service. SEc. 49. Th~ Public Printer may employ, at such rates of wages as he may Second. The Government Printing Office was included in the deem for the mterest of the Government and just to the oersons employed. classified service. such P!OOf readers, laborers, and other hands as may be-necessary for th~ Third. Laborers, messengers, and watchmen were included in ezecution of the orders for public printing and binding authorized by law· but he sha!J. ~ot, at :my tifi?.e, employ in the offi.ce moro hands than tho absO: the service. lute necesSities of the public work may require. I now propose to consider these classifications in their order, and give you the reasons why I thinlr their classification is not war­ This law expressly confers upon the Public Printer the authority ranted by the civil-service law. The Civil Service Commission to pre.scribe S"!lch rules as he may deem necessary for the proper has no jurisdiction over deputy collectors in that they are not offi­ select~on of the employees in the Government Printing Ot!ice. cers of the Government in the sense contemplated 'by the civil­ Here IS a law enacted subsequent to the enactment of the civil­ service act. service law that brings this question within the rule of construc­ Deputy collectors are appointed by the collector to act as his tiox;t of. statutm:y law which provides that the latest expressl.on of agents and in his stead in cert.ain instances. They execute to the le.gislat1ve will JS the law unless the same is amended or repealed. collector an official bond, conditioned for the performance of their The~efor~, if w~ are go~erned by this rule, and I must say that I duties, but, while this is true, if a deputy collector, while in the cons1der It our rmperative duty to adopt the rule, inasmuch as it discharge of his duties, commits a tort, or if he at any time em­ has the sanction of the highest judicial tribumi.ls in the land­ bezzles Government funds, he is not held directly responsible to such bein_g the ca~e, what is the duty of the Republican party in the Government for his misconduct, but the collector at once be­ the premiSes? It IS clearly our duty to secure such modific:1tion comes responsible to the Government and to the public fo1· the of the law, by legislation or otherwise, as will insure a correct in­ official misconduct of his deputy. These officers are appointed in terpretation of the statutes as well as an honest enforcement of accordance with section 31.W of the Revised Statutes. which reads the same. as follows: · . I am prepared to s~ow b.Y the express wording of the civil-serV­ Ice act that the classification of laborers or workmen is not only Each collector shall be authorized to appoint, by an instrument in Wl'iting under his hand, as many deputies as he ma.y think proper to be by him com­ unwarranted, but in violation of the act itself. pen.sated for their servicesj t? revoke any such apppointment, giving such Amo!lg other things section 7 provides: notice thereof as the CommlSSlOner of Internal Revenue may prescribe. and to require and accept bonds or other securities from such deputies. Each * * * But nothing herein contained shall be construed to take from those such deputy shall have the like authority, in every respect, to collect the honorably discharged from t.he military or naval service any preference CCJll­ taxes levied or assessed within the portion of the district assigned to biro ferred by the se>enteen hundred a:J.d fifty-fourth section of the Revised •which is by law vested in the collector himself; but each collector shall in S~tutes, nor to take fr?m the President any authority not inconsistent with every respect, be responsible both to the United States and to individuals' as ~~~ut~~-conferred bytne seventeen hundred and fifty-third section of said the case may be, for all moneys collected and for every act done or neglected to be done by any of his deputies while acting as such. Nor shall any officer not in the executive branch of the Government. or ~~~jo~e~~~!r~mployed as a laborer or workman, be required to be · It is perfectly clear to my mind that this section means nothing more nor less than that these deputies are simply agents of the ~or, unless by dir_ection of the Senate , sh~anlperson who has been nomi­ collector, and that, so far as responsibility in accounting to the ~;:~~ll~~~mation by the Senate be reqmre to be classified or to pass an Government is concerned, the collector alone is considered. It is Here is a plain and simple declaration which declares that no insisted that the law presupposes that officials who are placed in laborer or workman shall be required to be classified under the the classified service shall continue in office during good behavior ci~il-service. act. lt is true th~t .the word "merely" is used in or so long as they faithfully perform their duties. I do not con­ th1s connection, but I deny that It IS used for the purpose of draw­ cur in this opinion; but suppose that the contention is correct· then it is impossible to make this guaranty as respects depaty ing 1_1 distinction between laborers and workmen. It was used, in collectors, because their tenure is uncertain and depends solely my Judgment, for the purpose of drawing a line of demarcation ~etween those who occupied clerical positions, such as clerkships upon the duration in office of their superior-the collector-from m the Departments, and those who held the positions of messen­ whom they receive their authority to perform the duties assigned gers, watchmen, and other places that can be classified under no them. other head than that of laborers or workmen. The moment the collector retires from office the official lives of We cana~preci_at~ w~yitwas thattheframersof the act sought ~s deputies ~ase_to ~xist .. They are si~ply ~gents of their prin­ cipal, and theuprm01pal bemgnolonger m e:nstence, their agency t? n::ake a ~1~r ~tinction between those holding clerkships and terminates by simple operation of law. But suppose, for argu­ srmilar poSltions m Departments and those employed as laborers ment's sake, that by some mysterious power unknown to man and 1_1nd :work~en. In ~h~. absence of the qualifying word ''merely" unauthorized by statute these officials continue to have official It might Wlth plausib!hty be contended that all parties in the De­ existence, I take it that no one will seriously insist that the col­ partments whose duties were of such a character as to involve the lector should be deprived of the authority to name his subm·di­ perform.ance of physic~ la"t?or are excluded under this proviso, and nates, when it is admitted that among other things they are under such a construction It could be shown that clerks were in a charged with the collection of taxes for which the collector is re­ certain sense laborers. sponsible to the Government on his official bond. In order to extend the civil-service law to limits beyond it.s legit­ The classification of the Government Printing Office is in my imate scope the Civil Service Commission has undertaken to draw a judgment, without warrant of law. In the first place, adopt distinction between laborers-classifying one grade as skilled labor­ u; ers and the o~her as mere la?orers, and in the Government Pl'inting the lan~ua~e of the Public Printer, the Government Printing Office "Is srmply a great manufacturing plant, involving varied 9ffice an entirely new deVJce ~as been adopted by which those who branches of skilled labor of high grade. The civil-service rules are mother Departments are deSignated as mere laborers are divided in my judgment, an obstruction rather than an aid to efficiency into classe.s, and one class is desi_gna~d as ''helpers," when in and economy. In my opinion the civil-service rules as promul­ truth and m fact they are performmg srmilar duties to those who gated for enforcement here should be modified radically, sus­ are designated as mere laborers. Under the civil-service rules as pended, or repealed.. " prom~gated November 2, 1~96_, and January 15, 1897, for observ­ This is the statement of the Public Printer, Mr. Palmer, who is ance m the Government Prmting Office the following classes of a practical printer and who has heretofore served the Government employees are classed as skilled laborers: Assistant doorkeepers, boxers, caJ.·tains of watc~ charge of charwomen. acceptably in the same capacity in which he now acts. He is a charge of countingr9om, charge of delivery room, charge of glue room, gentleman of high character, and if we are to give credence to his c~rge of gold sweepmgs, cp.a.rge of !Jelpers, charge of numbering, charge of statement the interests of the Government can best be subserved piece sewers, char~e of sewmg machines, charge 9f stitching, cha.rge of ware­ by e:x:cluding the Government Printing Office from the classified house, counters, dir~ctresses, doorkeepers, exaiDlllers, feeders, firemen, floor hands (not IJ?-eeha~~), folders, gold workers, helpers, hoisters, hy

this classification. It is the duty of the Republican party to cor­ Commissioner Hermann, of the Land Office, among other things, rect this abuse at once, because if we do not there can be no such says: thing as an honest enforcement of the law. The ugliest feature In my opinion, deputy collectors of internal revenue and deputy United connected with the classification of the Government Printing States marshals should not be included in the classified service. is The existing rules of the civil service should be modified, so far as the bu­ Office the fact that numbers of unskilled laborers working inside reaus of all the Departments are concerned, in respect to their application to of the Government Printing Office are denominated as "helpers" chief clerks, chiefs of divisions, receiving clerks, and confidential clerks, the in order to evade the plain letter of the law. The Public Printer, inspectors, and also as to all special agents of the Departments, including mineral-land commissioners in Montana and Idaho, mine inspectors, and prin­ in his letter addressed to the chairman of the Committee on Civil cipal examiners of land claims and contests. Service and Retrenchment, among other things, says: These officers sustain close confidential relations to the heads of the De­ The only persons here -who are not by these rules included in the classified partments and the bureaus, the special agents being required to have the service are charwomen and laborers employed in working outside of the qualifications of detectives, which qualifications can only be tested by expe­ Government Printing Office proper. Unskilled laborers emi;Jloyed inside of rience and observation and by reputation, and not by any civil·service exam­ the office are denominated as "helpers," and a1·e included m the classified ination. list. The chiefs of division should be especially exempt from the classified service, because their relations are not only confidential to the bureau head, It is not contended by Mr. Palmer that parties employed as but they constitute the last line of demarcation between the political rela­ "helpers" are skilled laborers, but on the other hand he plainly tions of the Administration and the justly clerical or civil-service divisions of the Departments. The chief of a division is its presiding officer, and should says that they are not skilled laborers. However, in order to possess the qualities essential to a presiding officer, and his general deport­ thwart the will of the framers of the statute, these men are called ment should be such as to command the respect and add to the discipline of " helpers." the corps. He should be selected especially as to his general fitness as such chief. While I do not wish to use harsh terms in discussing this mat­ If it is assumed that the dominant ~arty shall shape the legislation in the ter, at the same time I must insist that such practice in ordinary country in consonance with the poliCies which it sustains, it has a right to human affairs would be denominated a fraud. I have endeavored know that the chiefs of divisions. who first shape recommendations as they are called for through the various divisions, are in perfect sympathy with to show that in three notable instances there has been an utter the party policies. The most important legislation in Congress emanates disregard of the provisions of the civil-service act by Mr. Cleve­ from the divisions in the form of reports on measures pendirig in Congress, land during his Administration. If such abuses are not corrected and which are usually first submitted to the heads of the Departments, and by them to the heads of bureaus, who in turn submit it to the chiefs of it will result in the absolute repeal of the merit system. divisions. Before I conclude, there is another view of this question that I The chief clerks are confidential advisers of the heads of bureaus and desire to call to the attention of the Senate. The civil-service law, Departments and are the custodians of important secrets which involve the public interests, while at the same time they should be in the highest sense within certain prescribed limits, vests the Chief Executive with acceptable and personally agreeable to the one who must repose confidence discretionary power as to its application. It is, then, purely a in them. question as to what extent we are to go in applying the civil- The heads of Departments and bureaus can well be trust.ed to select only . service rules as respects the Executive Departments in order to such persons for the particular pla-ces named as shall have all the necessary secure the best results in the way of efficient service. I have qualifications and fitness therefor. . given this subject much thought and I am convinced that all posi­ Mr. Evans, Commissioner of Pensions, says: tions in the service wherein the appointee is required to possess I have the honor to request that the following positions be exempted from the classified service, viz: The chief clerk, the appointment clerk, the private executive ability should be excluded from the classified service. secretary, the chiefs of division, the special examiners, the physicians com­ It seems to me that those who favor the merit system should posing the medical examining boards. agree to the proposition that you can test the clerical ability of an These positions should be under the control of the Commissioner in order individual, in a measure, by a written examination, but that yon to insure harmonious and effective organization. can not test the executive ability of an individual by such exami­ I have in my possession numerous statements from others con­ nation. For instance, you can not decide by a written examina­ nected with the public service that are in accord with these let­ tion as to whether or not the individual is a smooth-tempered or ters, and they should have great weight with the Republican party well-balanced man. Yon can not decide as to whether or not he in dealing with this question. has enough common sense to direct the affairs to him intrusted. These men are gentlemen of integrity and their Republicanism In other words, to test the executive ability of an individual it is has never been questioned. They are not only men who stand necessary that yon should see him face to face and satisfy yourself high in the councils of the Republican party, but they are men of by a personal investigation as to his qualifications and as to his affairs-successful business men. Thev have demonstrated to the past life-as to whether or not in the past he has demonstrated world that they possess executive ability in a high degree, and it the fact that he does possess executive ability. Such being the does seem to me that those of us who are not only in favor of per­ case, it is highly essential that special agents, as well as chiefs of petuating the merit system, but the Republican party as well, divisions, should be excluded and their selection left entirely with should adopt the suggestions of these men who are daily required the heads of Departments. to deal with the question under consideration in a practical way. I call attention to the following extracts from letters written We may have ever so many theories in regard to this matter, from the beads of different Departments. Secretary Wilson, of but after all it is our duty as representatives of the people to be the Department of Agriculture, among other things, says: guided by those who have had practical experience in such mat­ ters. While I am opposed to this law as now administered, at The experience I have had since I have taken char~e of the Department leads me to conclude that it is difficult to get heads of divisions with sufficient the same time I propose to confine my opposition to it inside of practical experience through civil-service examinations. We want men in Republican lines, feeling confident as I do that the Republican my Department who not only have a good foundation education\ but also a party will settle this question as it always has settled public ques­ good deal of practical knowledge of the world; and we are quite likely to get bright schoolboys. They answer civil·service questions better than men tions, to wit, in such a manner as to secm·e faithful and efficient who have been away from school and college some years, and yet, while they public service and at the same time not infringe upon the rights are able to do that, they lack the practical experience which is absolutely of the American people. necessary in the heads of some of my divisions. During the delivery of Mr. PRITCHARD'S speech, As to field agents. I will state that it is necessary, in carrying out the laws of Congress, to send confidential agents to find out things. I can illustrate: The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. WHITE in the chair). The The Ag-ricultural appropriation bill just passed requires me to send a man to hour of 2o'clock having arrived, it becomes the duty of the Chair to Alaska to ascertain whether, if an experimental station were established lay before the Senate the unfinished business, which will be stated. there, it would be beneficial to the people of that Territory. I understand I have power to av.point a man for ori.ly ninety days. So in that case I will ask The SECRETARY. A bill (S. 112) to amend the immigration leave of the Civil-Service Commission to send a man, and it will agree that I laws of the United States. can send one for ninety days. Then at the end of that ninety days of course Mr. GALLINGER. I ask unanimous consent that the unfin­ his work will not have been completed, and I must ask leave to extend thES time, etc. ished business be temporarily laid aside. It seems to me that these special agents should not be under the civil-serv­ The PRESIDING OFFICER. That will be the order, if there ice rules. Peculiar qualifications are neeessary there which will not be be no objection. brought out by a civil-service examination, and the employment is for only a little while. After the conclusion of Mr. PRITCHARD's speech, Mr. QUAY. I move that the Senate proceed to the consider­ Secretary Bliss, of the Interior Department, among other things, ation of executive business. says: The motion was agreed to; and the Senate proceeded to the con­ The chief clerk of this Department and the chiefs of divisions should, in sideration of executive business. After fifty minutes spent in my opinion, be exempt from the classified service. These officers occupy confidential relations to the Secretary, and on their briefs or recommenda­ executive session the doors were reopened, and (at 2 o'clock and tions he is dependent, to a large extent, for the proper conduct of his office. 55 minutes p.m.) the Senate adjourned until to-morrow, Friday, I am of opinion. also, that the special agents, such as land and timber in­ December 17, 1897, at 12 o'clock meridian. spectors, mineral-land commissioners, and particularly the special Indian agents, or the appointment of such, should be more directly under control of the Secretary, who is responsible for their actions and who must depend upon NOMINATIONS. them very largely for his knowledge of affairs in distant regions. The grave responsibility resting upon the Secretary of the Interior for Executive nominations received by the Senate December16, 1897. actions taken upon the recommendation of such officers makes it necessary, in my opinion, that he should have a control!ing voice in their appointment. ASSOCIATE JUSTICE SUPREME COURT UNITED STATES. It might be practicable to form an examining board within the Department, Joseph McKenna, of California, to be associate justice of the consisting, say, of the Secretary or Acting Secretary and the four Commis­ sioners, who should make such special examination of applicants for these Supreme Court of the United States, vice Stephen J. Field, offices 3d may be judicious. resigned. 1897. CONGRESSIONAL REC-ORD-SEN ATE. 207

CHIEF JUSTICE COURT OF PRIVATE LAND CLAIMS. San Juan, Puerto Rico, to which office he was appointed during Joseph R. Reed, of Iowa, to be chief justice of the Court of the last recess of the Senate, vice John D. Hall, resigned. Private Land Claims for the term beginning at the expiration of John Jenkins, of Nebraska, to be consul of the United States at his present term, on the 31st day of December, A. D. 1897, and San Salvador, Salvador, to which office he was appointed during expiring on the 4th day of March, A. D. 1899. the last r ecess of the Senate, vice Otto Munchmeyer, deceased. James W . l~agsdale, of California, to be consul of the United ASSOCIATE JUSTICE COURT OF PRIVA'l'E LAND CLAIMS. States at Tien-Tsin, China, to which office he was appointed dur­ Thomas C. Fuller, of North Carolina, to be associate justice of ing the last recess of the Senate, vice Sheridan P. Read, resigned. the Com·t of Private Land Claims for the term beginning at the William K. Herzog, of Illinois, to be consul of the United States expiration of his present term, on the 31st day of December, A. D. at Zittau, Germany, to which office he was appointed during the 1897, and expiring on the 4th day of March, A. D. 1899. last recess of the Senate, to fill an original vacancy. William W. Murray, of Tennessee, to be associate justice of the Court of Private L and Claims for the term beginning at the ex­ COl\IMISSIONER OF RAILROADS. piration of his present term, on the 31st day of December, A. D. James Longstreet, of Gainesville. Ga., who was appointed Octo· 1897, and expiring on the 4th day of March, A. D. 1899. ber 28, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be Commissioner Henry C. Sluss, of Kansas, to be associate justice of the Court of of Railroads, vice Wade Hampton, resigned. Private Land Claims for the term beginning at the expiration of COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY• . his present term, on the 31st day of December, A. D. 1897, and Charles G. Dawes, of lllinois, .to be Comptroller of the Currency, expiring on the 4th day of March, A. D. 1899. to succeed James H. Eckels, resigned. Wilbur F. Stone, of Colorado, t.o be associate justice of the Court of Private Land Claims for the term beginning at the expi­ PENSION AGENT. ration of his present term, on the 31st day of December, A. D.1897, John W. Nesbit, of Oakdale, Pa., to be pension agent at Pitts· and expiring on the 4th day of March, A. D. 1899. burg, Pa., vice George W. Skinner, t-erm expired. DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. ASSISTANT COl\Il\IISSIONER OF INDIAN AFFAIRS. Robert V. Cozier, of Idaho, to he attorney of the United States A. Clarke Tonner, of Canton, Ohio, who was appointed Septem­ for the district of Idaho, vice James H. Forney, whose term will ber 16, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be Assistant Com­ expire December 19, 1897. missioner of Indian Affairs, vice Thomas P. Smith, resigned. - Lewis Miles, of Iowa, to be attorney of the United States for COMMISSIONER TO NEGOTIATE WITH INDIANS, ETC. the southern district of Iowa, vice Charles D. Fullen, whose term Thomas B. Needles, of Nashville, Ill., who was appointed Octo­ will expire December 18, 1897. ber 14, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be a commissioner UNITED STATES MARSHAL. to negotiate with the Indians of the Cherokee, Choctaw, Chicka­ Henry C. Dockery, of North Carolina, to be IDi'\rshal of the saw, Muscogee (or Creek), and Seminole nations, vice Alexander­ United States for the eastern district of North Carolina, vice 0. J. B. Montgomery, resigned. Carroll, resigned. INDIAN AGENTS. SECRETA-RIES OF LEGATION. Albert M. An.derson, of Davenport, Wash., who was appointed Arthur M. Beaupre, of Illinois, to be secretary of the legation of October 1,1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for the the United States to Guatemala and Honduras, and consul-general Indians of the Colville Agency, in Washington, vice George H. to Guatemala, to which office he was appointed during the last Newmau, removed. ·recess of the Senate, vice D. Lynch Pringle, resigned.' T. Jay Buford, of Yaquina, Oreg., who was appointed October Lewis Morris Iddings, of New York, to be second secretary of 13, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for the Indians the embassy of the United States at Rome, Italy, to which office of the Silet~ Agency, in Oregon, vice Beal Gaither, term expired. ,he was appointed during the last recess of the Senate, to fill an James C. Clifford, of"Forsyth, Mont., who was appointed No­ original vacancy. vember 17, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for William F. Sands, of the District of Columbia, to be secretary the Indians of the Tongue River Agency in Montana, vice Capt. of the legation of the United States at Seoul, Korea, to which office George W. H. Stouch, United States Army, transfeiTed. he was appointed during the last recess of the Senate, vice Horace N. Dewey H. George, of Shawano, Wis., who was appointed Sep­ Allen, appointed minister resident and consul-general to Korea. tember 16, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for the Indians of the Green Bay Agency in Wisconsin, vice Thomas UNITED STATES CONSULS, H. Savage, resigned. George H. Jackson, of Connecticut, to be consul of the United Frederic 0. Getchell, of New Rockford, N.Dak., who was ap· S.tates at Cognac, France, to which office he was appointed during pointed November 5, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be the last recess of the Senate, vice Frederick FitzGerald, resigned. agent for the Indians of the Devils Lake Agency inNorth Dakota, William W.Ashby,of Virginia, to be consul of the United States vice Ralph Hall, term expired. at Colon (Aspinwall) , Colombia, to which office he was appointed Edward Goldberg, of Wichita, Kans., who was appointed Octo­ during the last recess of the Senate, vice Josiah L. Pearcy, re­ ber 9, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for the In­ signed. dians of the Quapaw Agency in the Indian Territory, vice George George P. Pettit, of Pennsylvania, to be consul of the United S. Doane, removed. States at Dusseldorf, Germany, to which office he was appointed ohn W. Harding, of Edgerton, S.Dak., who was appointed Oc­ during the last recess of the Senate, vice Peter Lieber, resigned. tober 19, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for the Rufus Fleming, of Ohio, to be consul of the United States at Indians of the Yankton Agency, in South Dakota, vice James A. Edinburgh, Scotland, to which office he was appointed during the Smith, term expired. · last recess of the Senate, vice Robert J. MacBride, resigned. Charles D. Keyes, of Wichita Falls, Tex., who was appointed Samuel M. Taylor, of Ohio, to be consul of the United States at September 16, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent Glasgow, Scotland, to which office he was appointed during the for the Indians of the Fort Apache Agency, in Arizona, to fill an last recess of the Senate, vice Allen B. Morse, resigned. original vacancy. Benjamin F. Stone, of Ohio, to be consul of the United States at Fred B. Spriggs, of Utica, N.Y., who was appointed October 9, Huddersfield, England, to which office he was appointed during 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for the Indians the last recess of the Senate, vice Frank C. McGhee, resigned. of theNevadaAgency, in Nevada, vice IsaacJ. Wootten, removed. Wilbur S. Glass, of South Dakota, to be consul of the United John H. Sutherland, of Detroit, Minn., who was appointed States at Kehl, Germany, to which office he was appointed during October 19, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for the last recess of the Senate, vice Edward I. Prickett, resigned. the Indians of the White Earth Agency, in Minnesota, vice Robert A. Homer Byington, of Connecticut, to be consul of the Uni.ted 1\L Allen, term expired. States at Naples, Italy, to which office he was appointed during Edwin M. Yemian, of Junction, Idaho, who was appointed No­ the last recess of the Senate, vice Frank A. Dean, resigned. vember G, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be agent for Benjamin F. Clark, of New Hampshire, to be consul of the the Indians of the Lemhi Agency in Idaho, vice Julius A. An­ United States at Pernambuco) , to which office he was ap­ drews, removed. pointed during the last recess of the Senate, vice John Malcolm Johnstone, resigned. ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER GENERAL LAND OFFICE. Church Howe, of Nebraska, to be consul of the United States Frank W. Mondell, of Newcastle, Wyo., who was appointed at Palermo, Sicily, to which office he was appointed during the November 15, 1897 , during the recess of the Senate, to be Assist­ last recess of the Senate, vice William H. Seymour, resigned. ant Commi sioner of the General Land Office, vice Emory F. Best, Martin J. Carter, of Pennsylvania, to be consul of the United transferred. States at St. Johns, Newfoundland, to which office he was ap­ SURVEYORS-GENERAL, pointed during the last recess of the Senate, vice John T. Barron, William L. Distin, of Quincy, Ill., who was appointed August · resigned. 7, 1897, dul'ing the recess of the Senate, to be surveyor-general of Philip C. Hanna, of Iowa, to be consul of the United States at Alaska, to fill an original vacancy, vice Gilbe1·t B. Pray, declined. 208 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECEMBER 16,

Jacob B. Blair, of Salt Lake City, Utah, who was appointed 27, 1897, d.uring the recess of the Senate, to be .register of the land September 16, 1897, during the recess of the Senate to be sur­ office ~t S1tka, Alaska, to fill an original vacancy. veyor-general of Utah, vice George W. Snow, term e~pired. David H. Budlong,.of Cceur d'Alene, Idaho, who was appointed Joseph Perrault, of Boise, Idaho, who was appointed October October 15, 1897, dunng the recess of the Senate to be re!rister of · 2, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be surveyor-O'eneral of the land office at Cceur d'Alene, Idaho, vice Ja~es Graham re- Idaho, vice Joseph C. Straughan, term expired. o moved. ' Richard L. Scarlet~, of Orange Hill, Fla., who was appointed Lorenzo R. Thomas, of Rexburg, Idaho who was appointed October 29, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate to be surveyor­ September 16, 1897, during the recess of the'Senate to be re!rister general of Florida, vice William H. Milton, jr., I!esigned. of t~e land office at Blackfoot, Idaho, vice John G. Brown °term RECEIVERS OF PUBLIC MONEYS. expued. ' Isaac T. Purcell, ~f Grainfield, Kans., who was appointed Sep­ David L. ~eyer, of Pomeroy, Ohio, who was appointed October 1, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be r eceiver of public tember 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be registeT of the .la~d office at Wakeeney, Kans., vice Abram Frakes term moneys at Roswell, N. 1\Ie:x., vice William H. Cosgrove term exprred. ' expired. ' Thomas Scadden, of Crystal Falls, Mich., who was appointed Jacob V. Admire, ?f Kingfisher, Okla., who was appointed Sep­ October 1, 1897, during the recess of the Senate to be re!nster of tember 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of the land office at Marquette, Mich., vice Peter Primeau r~sig ned . public moneys at Kingfisher, Okla., vice James C. Caldwell term James ~ill, of Jackson, Miss., who was appointed September 21, exprred. ' 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be re()'ister of the land Roswep. Shelley, of Portland, Oreg.~ who was appointed July 27, 0 1897, d urmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of public moneys offi~ a.t Ja.ckson, M!-ss., vice Robert E. Wilson, term expired. William H. Mar~, of Osceola, Mo., who was appointed Sep­ at Sitka, Alaska, to fill an original vacancy. tember 16, 1897, durmg t~e recess of. the Senate, to be register of James J. Pow.er, of Rochester, Pa., who was appointed Septem­ the .land office at BoonVIlle, Mo., vice Joseph W. Jamison term ~er 16,1897, dunng the recess.of the Senate, to be receiver of pub­ expired. ' lic moneys at Perry, Okla_., VIce Joseph H. King, term expired. Howard. Leland, of A~buquerque, N.Mex., who was appointed Thomas C. Burns? of Mitchell, S.Dak., who was appointed No­ September 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register vember 6, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of of the la'!ld office at Roswell, N. Mex., vice George R. Youn..,. public moneys at Mitchell, S.Dak., vice Lewis E. Whitcher, re­ 0 term expired. ' moved. Manuel R. Otero, of A_lbuquerque, N.Mex., who was appointed Herschel V. Cashin, of Decatur, Ala., who was appointed Sep­ September 16, 1897, dunng the recess of the Senate, to be register tember 16, 1897, during the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of of the la?d office at Santa Fe, N. Mex., vice J ames H. Walker public moneys at _Huntsville, Ala., vice Albert M.Avery, resigned. term expued. ' John C. LeftWich, of. Montgomery, Ala., who was appointed Thomas E. Olsgar~, of Minot, N. Dak., who was appointed Sep­ September 17, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver tember 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate to be regista· of of public moneys at Mongomery, Ala., vice Lan-y W. Hunter, the land office at Minot, N. Dak., vice Michael J. Barrett, removed. removed. Emory D. Bro~ee, of Enid, Okla., who· was appointed Sep­ Arthur W. Kinney,.of Los Angeles, Cal., who was appointed tember 16, 1897, dll!m~ the recess of the Senate, to be register of November 5, 1897, dunng the recess of the Senate, to be receiver the .land office at Kmgfisher, Okla., vice Edward G. Spilman term of P.ublic moneys at Los Angeles, Cal., vice Enoch Knight, term expired. ' · expued. Seymore S. Price, .of Oklahoma, Okla:, who was appointed Sep­ Henry Malloch! of Marysville, Cal., who was appointed Septem­ tember 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register of ber 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of the .land office at Oklahoma, Okla., vice Bushrod M. Dilley term public moneys at Marysville, Cal., vice Thomas J. Sherwood expired. ' term exprred. ' James B. CuJ!.ison, of Enid, Okla., who was appointed Novem­ George B. Rogers,. of Blackfoot, Idaho, who was appointed Sep­ ber 5, 1897, durn;tg the reces.s of t"?e. Senate, to be register of the tember 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of land office at Emd, Okla., VICe William H. Anderson, resigned. pub.lic moneys at Blackfoot, Idaho, vice John W. Jones, term Charles B. Moore~, of Salem, Oreg., who was appointed Sep­ expued. tember 21, 1897, durmg th~ recess of the Senate, to be register of George E. Matthews, of Eva, Miss., who was appointed Septem­ the fand office at Oregon City, Oreg., vice Robort A. Miller teTm ~er 21, 1897, during the r~cess ?f the Senate, to be receiver of pub­ exprred. ' lic moneys at Jac~son, Mis~., VIce Robert W. Banks, term exprred. Edward W. Bartlett,, of Lagrande, Oreg., who was appointed Robley D. Harris,, of Arlmgton, Nebr., who was appointed No­ November 6, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register -vember 6, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of of the lat;d office at Lagrande, Oreg., vice Benjamin F. Wilson pub).ic moneys at Sidney, Nebr., vice Preston A. Griffith, term term expired. ' exprred. Frederick E. McKinley, of Albuquerque, N.Mex., who was ap­ Joseph Donahue, of J!ort Pierre, S. Dak., who was appointed September 16, 1897, dunng the recess of the Senate, to be re<>'ister0 pointed September 16, 1H97, during the recess of the Senate to be of ~he land office at Pierre, S.Dak., vice David M. Boyle term receiver of public moneys at Guthrie, Okla., vice Thoma-s H. Cor­ expued. ' bett, term expired. Harvey N. McGrew, ?f Salt Lake Cit~, Utah, who was appointed Edward F. Hobart, ?f Hobart, N.Mex., who was appointed November 5, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate to be register September 16, 1897, dunng the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of t~e land office at Salt Lake City, Utah, vice By;on Groo, term of J?Ublic moneys at Santa Fe, N.Mex., vice Pedro Delgado, term exprred. exprred. Edward P. Tremp~r, of Seattle, Wash., who was appointed Sep­ Henry G. McCros~en, of Wausau, Wis., who was appointed tember 16,1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register of Octobei·13, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be receiver of the .land office at Seattle, Wash., vice William D. O'Toole, term pub~ic moneys at Wausau, Wis., vice Eugene B. Thayer, term expll'ed. expired. John~· Hill, of Colfax, Wash., who wa-s appointed October 16, REGISTERS OF THE LA.ND OFFICE. 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register of the Jand Robert Barker, of_Birmin~ham, Ala., who was appointed Sep­ office at Walla Walla, Wash., vice Albert G. Lloyd, removed. tember 17, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be recister of Edgar T. Wheelock, of Wausau, Wis., who was appointed Oc­ the land office at :Montgomery, Ala., vice Harrison Purcell, tober 13, 1897,during the recess of the Senate, to be registerof the removed. land office at Wausau, Wis., vice Louis Marchetti, term expired. John A. Steele.• of Tuscumbia, Ala., whowasappointed Septem­ ber 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register of the land office at Hu?tsville, Ala., vice Jesse W. Ellis, resigned. CONFIRMATIONS. John I. Worthing~on, of Green Forest, Ark., who was appointed Executive nominations confi1"med by the Senate December 16, 1897. October 1, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register of COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY. the l~n~ office at ::s;arrison, Al:k., vice John P. Clendenin, removed. William G. Whipple, _of Little Rock, Ark., who was appointed Charles W. Dawes, of illinois, to be Comptroller of the Currency, September 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate to be register PENSION A. GENT. of t~e land office at Little Rock, Ark., vice John J.'Beavers, term John W. Nesbit, of Oakdale, Pa., to be pension agent at Pitts­ exp1red. burg, Pa. Charles D. Ford, ~f Monument, Colo., who was appointed Sep­ PROMOTIONS IN THE ARMY, tember 16, 1897, durmg the recess of the Senate, to be register of the _land office at Denver, Colo., vice Edwin P. Harman, term Adjutant-General's Department. expired. Col. Samuel Breck, assistant adjutant-general, to be Adjutant­ John W. Dudley, of Washington, D. C., who was appointed July General, with the rank of brigadier-general. 1897. OONGRESSIONAL -RECORD-HOUSE. 209

Capt. Henry 0. Sheldon Heistand, Eleventh Infantry, to be First Lieut. Charles Gould Morton, Sixth Infantry, to be cap- assistant adjutant-'general, wi-th the rank of major. tain. Quartermaster's Department. First Lieut. Abner Pickering, Second Infantry, to be captain. First Lieut. Bogardus Eldridge, Tenth Infantry, to be captain. First Lieut. John Baxter, jr., Ninth Infantry, to be assistant First Lieut. James Allison Maney, Fifteenth Infantry, to be quartermaster, with the rank of captain. captain. Subsistence Depm·tment. First Lieut. Harry Lee Bailey, Twenty-first Infantry, to be cap­ tain. Col. William Hemphill Bell, assistant commissary-general of Second Lieut. Charles Miller, Eleventh Infantry, to be first lieu- subsistence, to be Commissary-General of Subsistence, with the tenant. . :rank of brigadier-general. Second Lieut. John R. Seyburn, Twenty-fourth Infantry, to be Firat Lieut. John Henry Duval, Eighteenth Infantry, to be first lieutenant. commissary of subsistence, with the rank of captain. Second Lieut. Jules Garesche Ord, Eighteenth Infantry, to be Adjutant-Gene?'CJl's Department. first lieutenant. . Lieut. Col. Thomas Ward, assistant adjutant-general, to be Second Lieut. Albert Decatur Niskern, Twentieth Infantry, to assistant adjutant-general, with the rank of colonel. be first lieutenant. Maj. William Preble Hall, assistant adjutant-general, to be Second Lieut. Truman Oscar Murphy, Nineteenth Infantry, to assistant adjutant-general, with the rank of lieutenant-colonel. be first lieutenant. Second Lieut. Francis Henry Schoeffel, Ninth Infantry, to be Quartermas!2r's Departme'nt. first lieutenant. Lieut. Col. James Gilliss, deputy quartermaster-general, to be Second Lieut. William HatTy Bertsch, Fifteenth Infantry, to assistant quartermaster-general, with the rank of colonel. be first lieutenant. Maj. Charles Frederick Humphrey, quartermaster, to be deputy Second Lieut. Ross Leonard Bush, Fifteenth Infantry, to be first quartermaster-general, with the rank of lieutenant-colonel. lieutenant. Capt. Francis Bacon Jones, assistant quartermaster, to be quar­ Second Lieut. Joseph Lavialle Donovan, Twenty-first Infantry, termaster, with the rank of major. to be first lieutenant. Subsistence Depa1·tment. Cavalry arm. Lieut. Col. William Anthony Elderkin, assistant commissary­ First Lieut. George Henry Sands, regimental quartermaster general of subsistence, to be assistant commissary-general of sub­ Sixth Cavalry, to be captain. sistence, with the rank of colonel. Infantry arm. Maj. John Francis Weston, commissary of subsistence, to be First Lieut. John Skinner Mallory, Second Infantry, to be cap­ assistant commissary-general of subsistence, with the rank of tain. lieutenant-colonel. Second Lieut. John Bradbury Bennet, Seventh Infantry, to be Capt. Oskaloosa M. Smith, commissary of subsistence, to be first lieutenant. commissary of subsist-ence, with the rank of major. APPOINTMENTS IN THE ARMY. Medical Depm·tment. Medical Department. Maj. Peter Joseph Augustine Cleary, surgeon, to be deputy To be assistant surgeons, with the rank of first lieutenant: surgeon-general, with the rank of lieutenant-colonel. Henry Page, of Maryland. Capt. Junius Levert Powell, assistant surgeon, to be surgeon, Bailey Kelly Ashford, of the District of Columbia. with the rank of major. Henry Allen Webber, of Massachusetts. Capt. Charles Richard, assistant surgeon, to be surgeon, with Jere Black Clayton, of California. . the rank of major. Brainard Spencer Higley, jr., of Ohio. Capt. William Fitzhugh Carter, assistant surgeon, to be sur­ George Rauchfuss, of New York. geon, with the rank of major. To be post chaplains. Corps of Engineers. The Rev. David Haddington Shields, of Pennsylvania. Capt. Dan Christie Kingman, to be major. The Rev. Edward Henry Fitz-Gerald, of" Missouri. First Lieut. Henry Clay Newcomer, to be captain. The Rev. Bernard Kelly, of Kansas. Second Lieut. James Postell Jervey, to be first lieutenant. To be chaplain of the Tenth Regiment of Cavalry. Caval'MJ a1-m. The Rev. William Thomas Anderson, of Ohio.· Maj. Charles Delavan Viele, First Cavalry, to be lieutenant­ colonel. Capt. Allen Smith, Fourth Cavalry, to be major. First Lieut. Charles Hem·y Grierson, Tenth Cavalry, to be cap­ HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. tain. THURSDAY, Decembm· 16, 1897. First Lieut. Barry Coupland Benson, Fourth Cavalry, to be captain. The Honse met at 12 o'clock m. Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. Second Lieut. Charles Wendell Fenton, Seventh Cavalry, to be H&'l'RY N. COUDEN. . first lieutenant. The Journal of the proceedings of yesterday was read and ap· Second Lieut. Edward D. Anderson, Fourth Cavalry, to be first proved. lieutenant. RETURN OF BILL TO THE SENATE. Second Lieut. George Philip White, Third Cavalry, to be first The SPEAKER. The Chair lays before the House the follow• lieutenant. ing request from the Senate, which will be read. Second Lieut. Louis Charles Scherer, Fifth Cavalry, to be first The Clerk read as follows: lieutenant. Resolved, That the Secretary be directed to request the House of Repre­ A1·tillery arm. sentatives to return to the Senate bill (S. 2365) "to amend the Indian appro­ First Lieut. Henry Leavenworth Harris, First Artillery, to be priation act of June 17, 1897, and for other purposes." captain. • The SPEAKER. Without objection, the Committee on Indian Second Lieut. William Lassiter, First Artillery, to be first lieu­ Affairs, to whom the bill was referred, will be discharged from tenant. its further consideration, and the same will be returned to the Second Li~ut. George LeRoy Irwin, Third Artillery, to be first Senate. lieutenant. There was no objection. Infant1'y a?"'ff~. MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. Maj. Abram Alexander Harbach, Eighteenth Infantry, to be A message from the Senate, by Mr. PLATT , one of its clerks, lieutenant-colonel. announced that the Senate had passed bills of the following titles; Maj. Daniel Webster Burke, Twenty-third Infantry, to be lieu- in which the concurrence of the House was requested: tenant-colonel. S. 1610. An act directing the Secretary of the Navy to consider Capt. William Hem·y Clapp, Sixteenth Infantry, to be major. and report on the subject of a st.atue of the late Admiral David Capt. Charles Keller, Second Infantry, to be major. D. Porter. Capt. Casper Hauzer Conrad, Fifteenth Infantry, to be major. S. 2612. An act prohibiting the killing of fur seals in the waters Capt. William Fletcher Spurgin, Twenty-first Infantry, to be of the North Pacific Ocean. major. S. 2508. f,..n act granting the right to the Omaha Northern First Lieut. William Lassiter, Sixteenth Infantry, to be captain. Railway Company to construct a railway across, and establish First Lieut. William Allen Mercer, Eighth Infantry, to be cap­ stations on, the Omaha and Winnebago reservations, in the State tain. of Nebraska, and for other purposes.

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SENATE BILLS REFERRED. them, and, of course, to give them to those who are not able to Under clause 2 of Rule XXIV, Senate bills of the following titles pay. Unless this bill shall pass before the h&idays, then it will were taken from the Speaker's table and referred to their appro­ be impossible to give them the relief which they ought to have. priate committees as indicated below: Mr. BAILEY. I am not of the opinion that the Government S.1610. An act directing the Secretary of the Navy to consider ought to become a storehouse keeper to sell provisions. and 1·eport on the subject of a statue of the late ~t\.dmiral David D. Mr. SAYERS. I think not, either, as a rule. Porter-to the Committee on the Library. Mr. BAILEY. But at any rate, Mr. Speaker, I am sure there S.2508. An act granting the right to the Omaha Northern Rail­ is merit enough in the proposition so that I shall not object to its way Company to constTuct a rail way across, and establish stations consideration, though I think I shall not be able to vote for it. on, the Omaha and Winnebago reservations, in the State of Ne­ Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker, there is no objection, I believe. braska, and for other purposes-to the Committee on Indian Af­ Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. l.fr. Speaker, I would reserve the fairs. point of order while we hear the statement of the chairman of the CHANGE OF REFERENCE. Committee on Appropriations. Mr. CANNON. Very well, Mr. Speaker. Some time last win­ The SPEAKER. Without objection. the bill (S. 251) for the ter, when legislation was pending concerning Alaska and the val­ relief of Henry Wolfe, of Shelbina, Shelby County, 1\!o., will be re­ ley of t~e Yukon, I took .occasion to say that from the present ferred, from the Committee on Claims, to the Committee on War temper m the country, wh1ch led great flocks of people. some provi­ Claims. dent and many improvident, to go to the valley of · the Yukon, There was no objection. that I very greatly feared before the close of the present winter DESTITUTE CITIZENS IN THE YUKON VALLEY. Congress would be called upon to'send relief to a part, if not all Mr. CANNON. l.lr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent for the of them. People were warned in the newspapers, and all that present consideration of the bill I send to the desk. kind of thing; but, nevertheless, many thousands of people went The SPEAKER. The bill will be read, after which the Chair to the valley of the Yukon, some prepared, most of them prob­ will ask if there be objection. ~bly unp~·epa:red. For some days we have been gathering all the The Clerk read as follows: mformation m our power. I have had full conferences with the A bill (H. R. 5173) authorizing the Secretary of War, in his discretion, to War Department, and especially with Dr. Sheldon Jackson, who, purchase subsistence stores supplies, and materials for the relief of p ao­ so far as I know, has perhaps more practical knowledge touching ple who are in the Yukon R1ver1 country, to provide meaus for their trans­ the valley of the Yukon than anybody to whom we have had ac­ portation and distribution, and making an appropriation therefor. cess. He was there as late, I believe, as September 15. I asked Be it enacted, etc., That the sum of .. 175,000, or so much thereof as may be necessary, is hereby appropriated, out of any money in the Treasury not him to make a written abstract of what he has said to me and to otherwiso appropriated, to be expended, in the discretion and under the members of my committee touching the situation there, and I direetion of the Secretary of War, for the purchase of subsistence stores, will ask the Clerk to read it. supplies, and materials for the relief of people who are in the Yuk. on River country or other mining regions of Alaska, and to purchase transportation The Clerk read as follows: and provide means for the distribution of such stores and supplies. DEPARTMEJ)i.T OF THE INTERIOR, That the said subsistence stores, supplies, and materials mli.Y be sold in said BUREAU OF EDUCATION, ALASKA DIVISION, country,at such prices as shall be fixed by the Secretary of War, or donated Washington, D. C., December· 15, 1897. where be finds people in n·eed and unable to pay for them. me~~~a~d~~mpliance with yow.· request, I respectfully submit the following '.rhat the Secretary of War may, in his discretion, purchase and import reindeer and employ and bring into the country reindeer drivers or herders In ac~ordauce with the instructions of the United States Commissioner of not citizens of the United States, or provide any other means of transporta­ EducatiOn I spent three months during the past summer in the Yukon River tion as in his judgment he may deem practicable. The said reindeer or other Valley, reaching Dawson (Klondike) July 25. On the night of the 26th the outfit may be sold and dis11osed of by the Secretary of War when he shall steamer. started upon its return trip down the river, reaching Forty Mile have no further use for them under the provisions of this act, or he may turn Cre~k Vllla_ge and Fort Cudahy the f!?me night. The next evening we were over the same or any part thereof to the Department of the Interior, and the at Crrcle C1ty, and shortly after leavrng that village our steamer went bard proceeds arising from all sales herein authorized shall be covered into the aground on a sand bar, where I remained until August 15, when I was taken Treasury. off with the other passengers by the arrival of another steamer. That even­ The Secretary of War shall make report, in detail, to Congress, at the be­ ing we reached and visited Fort Yukon. ginning of its next regular session, as to all purchases, employments, sales .0~ the 17th we visited Rampart City. (Munook Creek), which is the rising and donations, or transfers made under the provisions of this act. mllllllg town of central Alaska, reachmg St. Michael August 24. On this trio up and down the Yukon River, 1,700 miles each way, I saw every store ·The SPEAKE.R. The gentleman from Illinois asks unanimous ana trading post on the river, and at that time there were no large stores of consent for the present consideration of the bill which has been provisions for the winter. The trip made by myself was on one of the first ~teamers that went up the river in the summer, and the miners were depend­ read. rng !JPOn each of the st~amers plying on the river making three round trips Mr. BAILEY. Reserving the right to object, I desire to ask the durmg the season. Owmg to the unusual low stage of water this expectation gentleman from illinois if the matter has been considered by the was not fulfilled. A few of the steamers made two round trips and others only one, the result being that when navigation closed in September there Appropriations Committee? was no .large supply of provisious anywhere along the Upper Yukon Valley. Mr. CANNON. I will say to the gentleman from Texas, prac­ The:e 1s an abundant supply stored in the warehouses at St. Michael, on tically, yes; teehnically, no. Bermg Sea, unloaded at that place from the ocean steamers. The failure of tho river steamers to get up the river prevented the distribution of those I will say to the gentleman that for some little time past various supplies where needed. To remedy this, the Secretary of War telegraphed members of the committee have had their attention directed to myself last September to turn over all the reindeer trained to harness under the matter, but in the last few days the members of the subcom­ my control, as Government agent, to Lieutenant-Colonel Randall, U.S. A., mittee considering the deficiency bill in part have been quite busy who, with a detachment of troops, was en route to St. Michael. Colonel Randall is under iustructions to take the food stored at St. Michael with that subject. .As we are so near the adjournment for the organize reindeer freight trausportation, and distribute it in the mining holiday recess, it was not practicable to call a full meeting of the towns along the Yukon River. Rampart City, by the way of the mouth of the committee, and it is evident that if this appropriation is made at river, is 1,075 miles from St. Michael. With the reindeer crossing the country the distance will be about 600 miles. I have turned over to Colonel Randall all jt should be made at once. After consultation with the gen­ about 200 trained deer, and it is probable that he will be able t".EJupply all the tleman·s colleague [Mr. SAYERS], who is also a member of the ruiners from the mouth of the river as far as RampartCity,and possibly may subcommittee on deficiencies, I present this bill and ask unani­ be able to extend the trip up to Fort Yukon, which is 1, 353 miles from St. :Mi­ chael by the way of the river, or 878 miles from St. Michael acroS3 the coun­ mous consent for its present consideration. If the gentleman try as t.he deer will travel. I think there need be no apprehension with desires, I will make my statement now, but it seems to me· it r~gard to specil!-1 suffe1:ing. by ~he miners as far up the river as Rampart would be better to get the unanimous consent, and then I will C~ty. The speCial destl~ut10n ~ b.etwe~n ~or~ Yukon and _Dawson City, a dlStance of about 300 miles. Within this dlBtrlCt, I should JUdge, there is a proceed to make the statement. population of about 5,000 people, distributed as follows: Mr. BAILEY. Mr. Speaker, if my colleague, Governor SAYERS, has investigated the matter, and if he thinks it is proper, I shall ~fi~!"~ft~n- ==~~~~ ==~==~== ==~~: ~:==~~=:======:::::::::::::: ::::::::=:=: 1, ~ not object at least. Fort Cudahy and Forty Mile Creek village ____ ------700 Mr. SAYERS. I do not think there can be any question as to the Dawson ______------3,003 It is next to impossible to take the provisious that long distance, from St. propriety of the passage of the bill. Michael to Da.wson, with the few trained reindeer that are at the disposal of Mr. BAILEY. Of course we might disagree as to that, but I Colonel Randall. Relief for these 5,000 people must be taken in from Dyea certainly am willing to allow it to be considered. on the Pacific coast, in southeast Alaska. •.rhe distance from Dyea to Daw­ son is 578 miles; to Fort Cudahy, 628 miles; to Circle City, 7!18 miles, anll to Mr. SAYERS. There is no doubt but that there is an absolute Fort Yukon, 840 miles. There are probably 500 miners in the Upper Yukon necessity for the relief of the miners in the Yukon Valley. district that have laid in provisions for twelve months and ba. ve an a bun dan t Mr. B~t\.ILEY. I would ask my colleague if that necessity for supply for themselves. In former years those that were thus situated have div1ded with those that were less fortunate. That will probably be done relief is due to the poverty of those people there? We have heard this season. marvelous stories about the richness of the mineral deposit. Is it It is possible that there is sufficient food that can be obtained in that man­ due to their poverty, or is it due to the difficulty of egress and ner to last the population until the 1st of March, but no additional food sup­ ply can r each that region before June. Consequently it becomes necessary ingress? to furnish supplies for the months of March, April, Mn.:y, and possibly June. Mr. SAYERS. It is due to the impossibility of private parties During these months it will be impossible to take provisions from the coast getting provisions to those people who are iu the Yukon Valley, at Dyea into tbe Yukon Valley either by horses or dogs. A very limited sup­ from 700 to 1,000 miles distant from the two bases of supplies. ply could be packed by men on their backs, but not a sufficient quantity to meet the exigencies of the caso. The only pos ible method of tah.-:ing the food The object of this bill, as I understand it, is for the Government into the country in quantities at that season of the year will be by reindeer to transport and sell the provisions to such as are able to pay for trains. and therefore I heartily approve of the requ.est and recommendation 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 211 of the Secretary of War that 500 reindeer, at least, shall be purc4ased in Lap­ tion there, because while there are many poor people there, there land taken across the continent to Dyea, and used for transportmg food. are many people there who have plenty of gold wherewith to pur­ I iilclose tables of distances, both by southeast Alaska and also by the mouth of the river. chase, but there is no food to be purchased; and in the absence of Very respectfully, yours, SHELDON JACKSON, a possibility of getting food there without the intervention of the Ge1~eraZ Agent of Education in Alaska. Government we make this recommendation. Hon. JosEPH G. CANNON, Chai77nan of Committee on Appropriations, Now, how is it to be done? I hold in my hand a statement House of Representatives, Washington, D. C. which shows that 600 reindeer can be bought in Lapland and put at Dyea by the 1st of March, after making a full allowance Distances from Dye a. for contingencies, of death of reindeer, for $60,000. Sixty Lapp Miles. Miles. drivers will cost $80,000. That is a liberal estimate and will cover From Seattle to Dyea ....•••.••. 1,060 From Dyea to- it. These reindeer can make two trips from Dyea to this mining From Dyea to- Foot of Lake Le Barge...... 184 if Headofcanoenavigation... 6 Hootalinqua River ...... • 216 district in three months-possibly three, there is a necessity for Summit of the Chilkoot Cassiar Bar______242 them to make a trip so as to reach that part of the country in Pass.------______----· 14: Big Salmon River.----··---- 249 June. But it is safe to count on two trips. Now, they can take Head of Lake Lindemann... 23 Little Salmon River------285 army rations, which cost 18 cents apiece, and which in full army Foot of Lake Lindemann... 'l:l Five Finger Rapids------·- 344 Head of Lake Bennett...... 28 Rink Rapids------350 rations would cost $16.20 to the inhabitant, but they can not take if Foot of Lake Bennett...... 53 Pweit!t;tAi!~r::::::::::::::::: 403 this amount. They can take enough rations the inhabitants Caribou Cro,sing...... 56 499 were put on a little over quarter r ations, which, according to my Foot of Tagish Lake------73 Stewart River...... 509 Head of Lake Marsh...... 78 Sixty-Mile Post------529 information, is sufficient to preserve the people from starvation, Foot of Lake 1\Iarsh...... 97 Klondike ------· 578 and thus relieve the whole 5,000 by putting them upon quarter Head of canyon------·-·· 123 Fort Reliance------582 rations. · Foot of canyon ...... ------124 Forty-Mile Post______628 Head of White Horse Rap- FortCudahy______628 We therefore recommend the $60,000 for the reindeer, the $30,000 ids------· 125 Circle CitY------798 for the drivers, the $24,300 for the purchase of the rations; and Tahkeena River ...... ------140 Fort Yukon...... 839 then, to give leeway to the Secretary of War, we give $50,000 to Head of Lake Le Barge..... 156 Rampart City ...... 1,119 cover miscellaneous expenses and all contingencies; which might Distances from St. Mich~l up the Yukon Rive1". bring more reindeer, which might purchase more provisions and Miles. Miles. a different order of provisions, and which might, in the judg­ From San Francisco to Una­ From St. Michael to- ment of your committee, care liberally for this service as far as it laska·------·-----··------.. 2,369 Munook Creek (Rampart From Unalaska to St. MichaeL. 800 City)------1,075 is practicable to care for them. In this bill we give the Secretary From St. Michael to- Steven's Houses •..•.•. -----· 1,144 of War full discretion to buy these reindeer, buy these provisions, Pastolik, mouth of Yukon .• 72 One Eyes------· 1,279 Keetalek______77 Mouth of Porcupine------1,3-14 transport them, and sell them to people who are able to buy. Our Keeslivak ...... ------154 Fort Yukon •..... ------1,353 information is that substantially the Government will be reim­ "Foot of the Mountain"---· 193 Bonate Village .....•...•...•. 1,386 bursed for this expenditure, because there is a great number of Andreafski ------····· 216 Circle City------1,394 people there who are not paupers, but who are not able to ex­ Russian Mission------· 315 Charley River ...... ••....• 1,456 Holy Cross Mission------· 410 Seventy-Mile Creek .. ------1,516 change their gold for something to eat. All such can reimburse Ogilvie's Camp, boundary. 1, 560 the Government. We give him discretion, if there be people who Anvik .... ------____ ------457 Square Rock ______1,584: Nulato------·· 648 are not able to purchase, that he can relieve them without price. Kokrinos ------.----- ••.••••• 800 lt'ort Cudahy------1,596 Burning Mountain------849 Forty-Mile Creek------1,598 Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. Will the gentleman allow me a Tozamakat ------· 883 Fort Reliance------1,640 question? Mouth of Tanana ----··----- 897 Dawson------·---- 1,650 Mr. CANNON. Certainly. Rampart Rapids------··--· 1,004: Klondike ....•••••••••.••..... 1,652 Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. I understand you to say that it would be the 1st day of March before they could start from Dyea? Estimate of expenses fo'r the transportation of p1·ovisions by 600 reindeer from, ])yea to the Yukon. Mr. CANNON. Yes; before they could leave Dyea. Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. Have you any information that the :fl:~~a3:r.;:r~,s;crS500~=: ~= ~~~== -. ~ ======~= :::::: ===~~= :::::::~::: :::: ~: ~ miners have provisions to last them until that time? 3. 7 pounds, a day's army ration, 18 cents; 18 cents for 90 days, equals Mr. CANNON. Dr. Jackson says that byadivision ofthe food $1G.20; 5,000 men, at Slti.20, equals $81,000. Approximately, one-fourth of those people who are supplied in full for the year round they MI::ll~~e~!'s~:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~; ~ could exist until the 1st of March; but there is no way to get any­ thing to them before that time; so that they must starve, if they Total ----•••... _•.••••••••••••.•••...••••..••••.••••••••••..• ---· --.. 164:, ROO are in a starvation condition, until we can get provisions to them. Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker,gentlemenknowwhoDr. Sheldon Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. One further question-! am asking Jackson is. This proposition received the approval also of theWar for information. While these reindeer, of course, in Lapland exist DepaTtment. Gentlemen will understand that on the shore of the on the moss of that country, is it not a fact that the country over Bering Sea, at St. Michael, there are plenty of provisions, which which they will have to travel is a boggy country, which at that were taken up there during the past season, but owing to the time will be covered 10 feet in snow and ice, or is there plenty lowness of water and the large immigration, the accustomed provision for them? number of trips could not be made up the Yukon River to Circle Mr. CANNON. Dr. Jackson and everybody who knows any­ City and to Dawson. Now, there are 200 Government reindeer at thing about the matter seem to agree that for a short distance out St. Michael, broken to harness, and those 200 Government rein­ of Dyea the reindeer will have to be subsisted, but that after you deer are sufficient to transport supplies as far as Rampart City, get from that place a short distance there is no difficulty in obtain­ or Munook Creek, which is the principal mining camp in that part ing moss. of Alaska. There need be no apprehension but what they will Mr. LOW. Will the gentleman allow me to ask him a question? have enough to eat. Mr. CANNON. Certainly. It is barely possible that Yukon, 225 miles farther on, may be Mr. LOW. Why is it that the miners there are without food? relieved from St. Michael, but that is hardly probable. Now, Mr. CANNON. Some of them went up there, perhaps, without when you get many hundred miles beyond that-to Circle City being duly advised. No .doubt many of them went recklessly, and to Dawson and the various mining camps-it is not possible and they are there now Without food, first, because the low stage that they should be relieved from St. Michael, because there is no of water in the Yukon River cut off one run of boats up that possibility of transportation that would carry the supplies. Then river, and second, because, as I have said, many of them went the only way they can be relieved is from Dyea, in the opposite there improvidently. I am not here to offer any defense of their direction. Now, there are plenty of provisions at Dyea, but no imprudence, but that does not affect the merits of this proposition. transportation and no possibility of transportation in any con­ Mr. LOW. Will the gentleman permit me to make a short siderable supply, possibly, except by reindeer. Now, the Gov­ statement? ernment-- Mr. CANNON. I would rather the gentleman would ask me a Mr. SAYERS. Will the gentleman state to the House the dis- question, if he desires, and let me get unanimous consent for the tance from the latter place to the mining camps? consideration of this bill. ].fr. CANNON. From Dyea? Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. Will the gentleman permit me Mr. SAYERS. Yes. a question? Mr. CANNON. Well, it is stated here. Fort Yukon is 1,353 Mr. CANNON. Certainly. miles from St. Michael by way of the river, or 878 miles by rein­ Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. Is it not a fact that the great deer route. Now, from Dyea, on the Pacific coast in southeast majority of these miners whom you propose to relieve are located Alaska, to Dawson is 558 miles; to Fort Cudahy, 628; to Circle on British territory? City, 798, and to Fort Yukon, 840 miles. Now, Dr. Jackson says Mr. CANNON. I understand that many of them who are there are 5,000 people in this district, practically, that can not be American citizens are located on British territory at Dawson, but reached from St. Michael, and that their food will be exhausted I also know that they are American citizens, and if they are there by the 1st day of March. That leaves them, then, three months starving, whether they are British or whether they are American, without food and without the possibility of private enterprise in the presence of starving and suffering humanity we can not taking it to them. Possibly, he says, there would be no starva· fail to act in this matter. (Applause.] 212 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEMBER 16,

Mr. LOW. Now may I ask the gentleman a question? let us eschew the question of profit and loss and deal with this Mr. CANNON. Certainly. occasion as we have dealt with other occasions of this kind. Mr. LOW. Is it not a fact that the transportation companies It is not a gratifying spectacle to see the Government of the which took the miners up there absolutely refused to permit them United States go into the open markets to buy provisions and sell to carry their food along? them; no more will it be a gratifying spectacle to see the United Mr. CANNON. I will say to my friend that I do not know. I States Government become a vender of reindeers after they have have seen that stated, but, from some information which has relieved the suffering of the people in Alaska. If the suggestion come to me, I am inclined to think that, like many other reports, could possibly commend itself to the judgment of the gentleman that one does not contain a great deal of truth. However, whether from illinois and his colleagues on the committee, I should be the fact is so or not, it makes no difference so far as this bill is very much more content to see this measure passed over my pro­ concerned. test without that provision than to see it passed with that pro­ Mr. LOW. Certainly not. I am not opposed to the recommen­ vision. dation of the committee. Mr. KNOX. Will the gentleman permit a question? Mr. JONES of Washington. Is it not a fact that 80 per cent of Mr. BAILEY. I had taken my seat, but I will reply to any the inhabitants of Dawson City and of the Klondike region gen­ question. erally are American citizens, and that nearly all the mining claims Mr. KNOX. Would the gentleman think it proper or jt1st for a1·e owned by citizens of the United States? the legislature of Texas to relieve a similar case of distress in the Mr. CANNON. My information is that a majority of the peo­ State of Texas? ple at Dawson are American citizens. Mr. BAILEY. The gentleman, I presume, has in his mind a Mr. JONES of Washington. Is it not also a fact that a majority resolution which passed this House recently giving relief to cer­ of those who went up last year by the Yukon and through the tain people of Texas. I wish to say that if I had been here on White and Chilkoot passes took with them sufficient provisions, that occasion I would have voted against giving a dollar in the and that the suffering which now exists is owing to the fact that way of such relief. the transportation companies have been unable to bring up the anticipated supply? Mr. KNOX. That is not the question. Does the gentleman Mr. CANNON. I have already said that Dr. Jackson explains believe it would be right for the legislature of his State to relieve that, owing to the low stage of water in the river, the usual trans­ the sufferings of its own people-such suffering as is sought to be portation up the Yukon failed. provided for here? That is the question. Mr. LACEY. Suppose these reindeer were shipped from Lap­ Mr. BAILEY. If I believed that. I would not go into the bar­ land, what route would they take and what would be their condi­ ter and exchange business. I would give the suffering people pro­ tion on their arrival? After making that journey nearly round visions without any charge against them. the world and being landed at Juneau, would they be in condition, Mr. KNOX. I simply wished the gentleman to answer whether after so hard and long a journey, to carry provisions to the suffer­ he would believe it proper and right for the legislature of his ing miners? Dr. Jackson has had some experience in testing the State to take such action with reference to citizens of that State. condition of reindeer after taking journeys, and I should like to Mr. BAILEY. There might be a case of such extreme hardship know what he says about that. that I would think such relief proper. We have poorhouses in Mr. CL~NON. I do not know. He says that it is entirely every county in Texas. I am glad to say that we do not have practicable to bring these reindeer from Lapland and have them them very full, but we make such provisions for the unfortunate ready to start by the 1st of March. We did not cross-examine him as I presume every State in the Union does. There might possi­ upon that question. Perhaps we might havedonesoif it had been bly be a great and sudden calamity, a Providential a:ffiiction, as it possible to get reindeer from any other place. But it will be ob­ were, which would appeal strongly to the legislature of Texas­ served that the whole matter is left in the discretion of the War so strongly that if I were a member of that body I might be will­ Department. The Secretary of War is to look over the whole ing to vote an appropriation for relief. While I say there might ground and act according to his best judgment in the presence of be such a case, none such has ever arisen in ruy legislative expe­ existing conditions. rience. Now,Mr.Speaker,I ask unanimous consent for the present con­ Mr. KNOX. Then in the c.ase of these people who have no State sideration of the bill. government, who have substantially no other government than There was no objection. that of Congress, is it not proper for us to relieve such distress as Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. Mr. Speaker, I would like to is presented here? hear the bill read again. Mr. BAILEY. The gentleman from Massachusetts did not listen · The bill was again read. to me intently, otherwise he would have perceived that I agree that Mr. CANNON. I yield three minutes to the gentleman from this is possibly a c1osed question, and I rose mainly to protest Texas [Mr. BAILEYl. against seeing the Government become a merchant on this occa­ Mr. BAILEY. Mr. Speaker, I simply desire to say that I have sion. never found myself willing to be charitable out of the public Mr. CANNON. Now a word in conclusion, and I will ask a money, and, therefore, I have never been able to vote for the vote. It is not necessary for me to criticise form~r appropriations many resolutions which have passed this body since I have been a to relieve suffering within our borders. If precedents were nec­ · member of it to provide for the relief of people who were dis­ essary, they are numerous, and in cases, too, where there was not tressed and suffering by flood, famine, and other calamities. I one tithe of the excuse or justification for them that there is in believe that charity ought to be voluntary. I believe it is a noble this case. In the case of floods on the Ohio River, and on the :1\fis­ trait for men to put their hands into their own pockets and freely sissippi River, and on the Alabama River, and in Texas we have give to relieve the distresses of their fellow-men, but I do not be­ time and again made these appropriations. lieve that we have a right to put our hands into the public Treas­ 1\Ir. SAYERS. And on the Missouri River. ury and to take the earnings of men who are poorer than many of Mr. CANNON. Yes; and on the Missouri. For Oklahoma we those whom we seek to relieve, and give that money to people who have time and again granted relief of this kind, in a land which, are better able to give than those are n·om whom they take. But, if you will allow me to say it, "flows with milk and honey." In Mr. Speaker, I realize that this is one of those peculiar cases which these cases relief has been given. Now, what is this case? appeal so strongly to the humanity of members that they are not The gentleman says he apprehends this bill will pass; that he is willing to listen to an argument while their fellow-countrymen not seriously opposing it, but criticising it. Why criticising it? are suffering. He says that the Government in this case turns itself into a mer­ I am not going, therefore, to protest specially against the send­ chant to buy and sell reindeer, to buy and sell provisions. Now, ing of relief. Perhaps that has been done so often it is no longer su·, principles were made for men, not men for principles; and an open question. But I do protest against what seems to me to while the gentleman from Texas is right on the general principle be a new departure, in this, that the Government establishes that this Government of ours should not go into the commission storehouses and becomes a vender of provisions. If these people business, yet, after all, I never would sacrifice humanity by blind are suffering', and if this is a proper case for relief, then relieve adherence to a principle, nor would I tax the people in a case of them; but I am not willing, and I think I never shall be willing, this kind unless there is a necessity for doing so in order to avoid to see this Government become a mere trader in the markets of the sacrifice of humanity. the world, buying provisions and selling them to even a. suffering Now, what is the condition here? How plain a story shall de­ people. molish the objections of our honorable friend from Texas. There The sum involved is not very great at most, and I would infi­ are 5,000 people on the upper Yukon, most of them with gold­ nitely rather see it given. without the hope or expectation of a more gold than we have. more gold than the average citizen has­ dollar of it being returned, than to see the United States engage gold, gold. gold! But people can not eat gold. Those people in a mercantile venture. It seems to me that, if we ought to send would undoubtedly pay $100 a barrel for flour; perhaps twice that this relief at all, we ought to send it without even the desire to much. But if they were willing to pay $10,000 a barrel for flour, have the braad we cast upon the waters returned to us after many there is not a barrel there for them to buy. They would pay a days. If we are going to be charitable, let us be fully charitable; dollar a pound for meat-yes, $2 a pound-but there is no meat 1897. . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 213

there to be bought. Nor can any meat or flour be put there by Mr. BLAND. Will the gentleman from Texas allow me an in­ privat-e enterprise. · tenuption just there? Mr. BAILEY. Will the gentleman from illinois permit me to Mr. SAYERS. Certainly. suggest that we do in· this case as we have done in other cases, Mr. BLAND. I want to submit a case that might be analogous notably in the early case of , and on other occasions-sim­ in one sense to the pending proposition. Suppose the people of this ply supply the means of transportation and allow these supplies country in that Territory were threatened not only by starvation, to be forwarded and disposed of by other agencies than the Gov­ but were in the midst of hostilities with Indians or other people ernment? by which they might be massacred, or in a position where any Mr. CANNON. Ah, if you supply the means of transportation other calamity might befall them. Could it possibly be claimed to the private owner of provisions, then the private owner of pro­ that Congress-the representatives of the Government of the visions absolutely says to these people who are in want, "Give all United States-had no power to intervene and protect them from you have Ol' all you ever expect to have in order to be relieved destruction? · from the dangers of starvation." · And when they are threatened by the calamity of starvation, Mr. BAILEY. The gentleman of course does not understand more terrible than a hostile foe, how can it be said that it is not me to suggest that we supply the merchants who intend to sell on Democratic or constitutional oo protect American citizens in this speculation the means of transportation, but to furnish transpor­ condition and in a Territory subject to our jurisdiction, not within tation to people who intend to carry their own provisions into a State, but within its own police jurisdiction? that region. Mr. SAYERS. Mr. Speaker, the best authorityupon the condi­ Mr. CANNON. But, Mr. Speaker, there are people who can tion of Alaska and of the people of Alaska with whom I am a·c­ not avail themselves of such means at this time. There are people qnainted is Dr. Sheldon Jackson, who was before a portion of our in that region now who must have immediate relief. Let us be committee, and it was upon his testimony, supplemented by infor­ practical in business matters. mation that we obtained from the War Department, that tbis bill Another thing: Most of these people who stand in need of relief was drawn and has been presented to the House for its considera­ have gold sufficient to pay twentyfold, aye, fiftyfold, the price of tion. provisions delivered at Dyea. But there are between 700 and 800 Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky, Will the gentleman yield for a miles of icy travel between the base of supplies and the point where question? the supplies are required. The only way to overcome this obstacle Mr. SAYERS. Yes. is for us to authorize now, as this bill provides, the use of 1·eindeer Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. You propose by this bill toes­ to cover the intervening space by the 1st of March, and even then, tablish Government warehouses? with the utmost diligence and expedition, they would be only able Mr. SAYERS. No; nothing of the kind. to take up probably a fourth of the rations necessary for the peo~ Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. Well, just a moment. You ple who are in want there, and that is just the amount of food that propose to establish storehouses. will stand between them and starvation. Mr. SAYERS. Not at all. Now, with the gold in their possession, there are lots of these Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. You are going to transport pro­ people who would not take these provisions from the Government visions and sell them. I do not suppose you will sell them on the as a gift, but they would say, "Take my gold in return," and highway. Yon are going to stop somewhere and sell them, and those who have the wlierewith to pay ought to pay for the relief. have this Government, in its sovereign capacity, locate trading Those who have not the wherewith ought to receive assistance posts along the river, anywhere from 800-- without payment, and therefore we give to the Secretary of War Ml., SAYERS. But there are no provisions in those trading the humane discretion, broadly, to give where he finds the neces­ posts. sity existing; and that is the whole situation and that is all there Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. There are gold camps located is of it. along the Yukon River a,nywhere from 800 to 1,200 miles in Brit­ But there is not a poor man in my country, no matter what his ish territory. poverty, but would say, ''Send provisions there, as there is no Mr. SAYERS. Certainly. other way, and let the Government be reimbursed from those who Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. Now, by what right of law does are able to reimburse it." That is practical legislation, and I will this Government propose to go into a country that is patrolled not sacrifice practical legislation to mere theory. and policed by Great Britain, over which she is now exercising I yield to the gentleman from Texas [Mr. SAYERS] such time as sovereignty, to establish trading posts for the purpose of dispens- he desires. ing provisions to citizens of this country? . Mr. SAYERS. Mr. Speaker, I will say to my colleague fMr. :Mr. SAYERS. Mr. Speaker, in the first place this bill does not BAU.EY] that the clause in the bill which provides for the sale of contemplate the establishment of trading posts. In the second the reindeer is a clause which follows the policy of the Govern­ place it is sufficient to lmow-- ment that has been enforced since, I suppose, its first existence. Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. Are yon not bound to establish Upon our statute books will be found authority given to the Sec­ some place in which to sell the provisions? retary of War, the Secretary of the Navy~ and to other officials to Mr. SAYERS. In the second place it is sufficient to know that dispose of the property of the United States, provided it shall have there are there American citizens in a starving condition, and been condemned as illlfit for use. whether it be on Canadian territory or the territory of any other An examination of the bill will show that these reindeer are to government, we have the right to send supplies to them. [Ap­ be used by the Secretary of War for the purpose of transportation. plause.] The gentleman will remember that when the proposi­ When the provisions shall have been transported to the camps on tion was to send supplies to the naturalized citizens residing in the Yukon River, and if it shall appear to the Secretary of War Cuba, that measure passed almost without a dissenting voice. that there is no further use for the reindeer, then it will be in his Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. Will the gentleman yield for discretion either to turn them over to the Department of the Inte­ another question? rior or to sell them. Wrr. SAYERS. Certainly. Mr. BAILEY. But, if my friend will permit me to suggest it, Mr. WHEELER of Kentucky. I realize that the patriotic sen­ the immemorial policy of the Government to permit the sale of timent expressed by the gentleman is quite natm·al, and it justly the property to which he refers proceeds upon the theory that that elicits applause; butwhyis it that theAmericancitizenswhohave property is required for the purpose of executing governmental been confined in Cuba for months do not excite the patriotic ire functions. of some of these gentlemen? Mr. SAYERS. That is so, of course. Mr. SAYERS. Well, that has nothing to do with this. One Mr. BAILEY (continuing). And surely my colleague will not thing at a time, I yield back my time to the gentleman from insist that it is a governmental function, under Democratic theo­ Illinois. ries of government, to carry provisions over the country and sell Mr. CANNON. Now, Mr. Speaker, I shall be glad to have a them to the people of the United States? vote upon this bill. .Mr. SAYERS. I will not engage with my friend in a discussion The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time; and as to what may be the Democratic theory of government with it was accordingly read the third time, and passed. reference to the pending proposition. On motion of 1\fr. CANNON, a motion to reconsider the last The conditions are these: Alaska is a Territory of the United vote was laid on the table. States. The people there have no State organization. Theyhave not even county organizations; in fact, they have no organization CONTINGENT FUND OF THE HOUSE. . whatever recognized by the Government except such as they have Mr. ODELL. Mr. Speaker. I present a privileged report. improvised for themselves. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from New York [Mr. ODELL] There are from 600 to 1,000 miles between the two bases of sup­ presents a privileged report. plies. The owners of these supplies-private citizens, private cor­ The Clerk read as follows: porations-would gladly carry them to the camps if they had the The Committee on Accounts, to whom was referred sundry resolutions, beg leave to report as follows: means of transportation. But they have not and can not get the The resolution, No. 57, directing the Clerk of the House of Re_presentatives means. to pay out of the contingent fund of the House to Amelia. A. Giddings, widow 214 .OONGRESSION.AL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEMBER 16, of Edwin Giddings, late conductor of elevator in the House of Representa­ the fiscal year 1896 there was an unexpended balance, it was not tives, a sum equal to his salary for six months and $150 for funeral expenses, is approved. covered into the Treasury by operation of law? The reaolution, No. 65, directing the Clerk of the House of Representati>cs J'lrlr. HULL. No; it runs three years before it is covered back. to pay out of the contingent fund of the House to Marcella Lannan, widow of I would like to make a little statement. The Paymaster-General William Lannan, late chief eneineer of the House of Representatives, a sum equal to six months of his salary and $150 for funeral expenses, is approved. sent this bill here at the extraordinary session, and was very The resolution, No. 97, appointing George Jennison• of New York, as a spe­ anxious to get it through at that time. It came before the Com­ cial me~senger to serve in and about the House unaer the direction of the mittee on Military Affairs as an unexpended balance of the appro­ Doorkeeper, at a salary of $1,200 ver annum, to be paid out of the contingent fund until otherwise provided for, is approved. priations. I concede the Committee on Appropriations may claim Th~ resolution, No. 28, providing that William Richardson be paid the dif­ jurisdiction of the matter, and I spoke to the gentleman from Illi­ ference between his salary as folder at 8840 per annum and ·1,200 per annum nois, the chairman of that committee, in regard to it. The Secre­ for acting as assistant foreman of the folding room, from March 15, 1891, is hereby r eported adversely. tary of the Treasury and the Secretary of War sent urgent letters Your committee, therefore, beg leave to report and recommend the adop­ to us, stating that this should be passed, if possible, before the tion of the following, to wit: holidays, as otherwise the men in the Army-soldiers-would not Resolved, That the Clerk of the House of Representatives be directed to get their pay before the holidays, and would not have the money pay,out of the contingent fund of the House, to Amelia A. Giddings, widow of Edwin Giddings, deceased, late conductor of elevator in the House of that they have earned and which has been provided for by law. Representatives, a sum equal to his salary for six months, and that he be They were very anxious to have it done for that reason. The un­ further directed to pay, out of the contingent fund of the House, the expenses expended ba1ance will leave something like $35,000 after the $85,000 of the funeral of the said Edwin Giddings, said expenses not to exceed the sum of $150. has been authorized to be paid; and this is simply paying what Resolt•ed, That the Clerk of the House of Representatives be directed to the Government owes and what the men will eventually have to pay, out of the contingent fund of the House, to Marcella Lannan, widow be paid. of William Lannan, deceased, late chief engineer of the House of Repre­ sentatives, a sum equal to his salary for six months, and that he be further Mr. McMILLIN. I should like to ask the gentleman how the directed to pay, out of the contingent fund of the House, the expenses of deficiency arose in the first instance? the funeral of the said William Lannan, said expenses not to exceed the sum Mr. HULL. It arose because the Army was recruited up during of $150. Resolved by the House of Representatives, That George Jennison, of New this time. York, be appointed as special messenger to serve in and about the Hou,se, Mr. McMILLIN. Then there was an insufficient appropriation under the direetion of the Doorkeeper, at a salary of $1,200 per annum, to be made? paid out of the contingent fund until otherwise provided for. Mr. HULL. An insufficient appropriation was made at that Mr. ODELL. Mr. Speaker, if there is no objection, I will ask time, but I will say to the gentleman-- for a vote on all the resolutions. Mr. BAILEY. Does the gentleman mean to say that there has The question was taken, and the resolutions were agreed to. been an increase in the A:rmy? On motion of Mr. ODELL, a motion to reconsider the vote by Mr. HULL. There has been no increase in it. which the resolutions were agreed to was laid on the table. Mr. BAILEY. The gentleman said "recruited up." The SPEAKER. Without objection, the other resolutions will Mr. HULL. The Army is very rarely full, and sometimes al­ lie on the table. most the entire enlisted men are enlisted. At other times, by There was no objection. reason of desertions and one thing and another, the number runs down. UNEXPENDED BALANCE OF ARMY APPROPRIATIONS. Mr. McMILLIN. The gentleman, then, means to say that it Mr. HULL. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent for imme­ took more to maintain theArmyin the last fiscal year than it did diate consideration of the joint resolution I send to the Clerk's the preceding year? desk. Mr. HULL. Oh, yes; and it will cost more this year than it did The Clerk read as follows: last. A joint resolution (H. Res. 87) authorizing transfer of $50,000 of the unex­ Mr. BAILEY. Then, Mr. Speaker, without intending to bear­ pended balance of appropriation, "Pay, etc., of the Army, 1896," to "Pay, bitrary or discourteous, I think that that would be better taken etc., of the Army, 1897," to meet deficiencies in last-named appropriation. care of in the bills as they come up; and I will object. Resolved, etc., That the sum of $50,000 of the unexpended balance remaining Mr. HULL. Then the men will have to wait for their pay. of the appropriation, "Pay, etc., of the Army, 1896," be transferred to" Pay, Mr. BAILEY. Oh, they will be paid. etc., of the Army, 1897," to meet any deficiencies which may arise in the pay­ ment of the Army under t he latter appropriation. MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. Amend the title so as to read: "Joint resolution authorizing transfer of $85,000 of the unexpended balance of appropriation, 'Pay, etc., of the Army, A message from the Senate, by Mr. PLATT, one of its secreta­ 1896,' to 'Pay, etc., of the Army, 1891,' to meet deficiencies in last-named appropriation." ries, announced that the Senate had passed without amendment the following resolution: Mr. SAYERS~ Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the gentleman Resolved by the House of ReJYresentatives (the Senate concurring), That when a question, if he will yield. the two Houses adjourn on Saturday, the 18th day of December, they stand Mr. HULL. Yes. adjourned untill2 o'clock meridian on Wednesday, January 5, 1898. Mr. SAYE.RS. This is a deficiency bill, is it not? PELAGIC SEALING. Mr. HULL. Hardly that. Mr. SAYERS. And a matter that ought to have gone to the Mr. HITT. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent of the House Committee on Apprqpriations. to take up a bill which has just come over from the Senate-Sen­ Mr. CANNON. I will say to the gentleman from. Texas that ate bill 2612. It is the bill which was called up a few days ago, the matter did come to the Committee on Appropriations, but the but too late in the afternoon for consideration. It has been unani­ chairman of the Committee on Military Affairs informs me, and mously agreed to by one committee of the House and by the on inquiry I find it is so, that there is a surplus in the appropria­ corresponding committee of the Senate, and I do not think its con­ tions of the year before last, the fiscal year, of $85,000. sideration will lead to long debate. Mr. HULL. And 835,000 more than that. The bill (S. 2612) prohibiting the killing of fur seals in the Mr. RICHARDSON. I should liketoaskthe gentlemanaques­ waters of the North Pacific Ocean was read, as follows: tion. Be it enacted, etc., That no citizen of the United States, nor person owing duty of obedience to the laws or the treaties of the United States, nor any Mr. CANNON. More than that; and there is a deficit in the person belonging to or on board of a vessel of the United State , shall kill, pay of the Army. capture, or hunt, at any time or in any manner whatever, any fur seal in the Mr. HULL. For this last fiscal year. waters of the Pacific Ocean north of the thirty-fifth degree of north latitude and including the Bering Sea and the Sea of Okhotsk. Mr. CANNON. For the last fiscal year. Technically speaking, SEC. 2. That no citizen of the United States. nor psrson above described in it ought to be treated in the deficiency bill; but as it has been section 1, shall equip, use, or employ, or furnish aid in equipping, using, or earned, and as the gentleman's committee has investigated it, and employing, or furnish supplies to any vessel used or employed, or to he used or employed in carrying on or taking part in said killing, capturing, or hunt­ was desirous that these people should not wait longer, I told him, ing of fur seals in said waters, nor shall any vessel of the United States be so so far as I was concerned, I would not interpose an objection. used or employed. Mr. SAYERS. Let me ask the gentleman a question. SEC. 3. That every person guilty of a violation of the provisjon of this act, or of any !_e_gulations made tnereunder, shall, for each offense, b e fined not Mr. HULL. I should like to make a statement; but all right, I less than S:.'OO or more than $2,000, or imprisoned not more than six months, or will yield to the gentleman for a question. both; and every vessel, itti tackle, a"{lparel, furniture, and cargo, at any time Mr. SAYERS. I understand this is to meet a deficiency in a used or employed in violation of this act, or of the regulations made there­ certain branch of the military service for the present fiscal year. under, shall be forfeited to the United States. SEC. 4. That if any vessel of the United States shall be found within the Mr. HULL. For the last fiscal year, ending June 30. Some of waters to which this act applies, having on board fur-seal skins or bodies of the men have not been paid under the last appropriation act. seals, or apparatus or implements suitable for killing or taking seals, it shall Mr. SAYERS. I feel like objecting to the consideration and be presumed that such vessel was used or employed in the killing of said seals, or that said ayparatus or implements were used in violation of this act letting it go to the Committee on Appropriations. until the contrary IS proved to the satisfaction of the court. Mr. HULL. Before objection is made, I should like to make a SEc. 5. That any violation of this act or of the regulations thereunder may short statement. be prosecuted either in the district court of Alaska or in any district court of the United States in California, Oregon, or Washington. Mr. RICHARDSON. I want you to cover this point, if you SEC. 6. That this act shall not interfere with the privileges accorded to please, in your statement: I should like to know if at the end of Indians dwelling on the coast of the United States under section 6 of the aot

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of April6, 1894, but the limitations prescribed in said act shall remain in full interest of the Government to afford all reasonable protection to the seal force. herd, not only while on the islands, but as far as possible when absent there· SEc. 7. That this act shall not affect in any way the killing or taking of fur from. The laws enacted for that purpose were construed to apply to all the seals upon the Pribilof Islands, or the laws of the United States relating waters of Bering Sea east of the line laid down in the treaty of cession from thereto. Russia, and for many years they afforded protection to the seals when on SEC. 8. That any officer of the naval or Revenue-Cutter service of the their migrations. When pelagic sealing began, the British Government United States, and any other officers duly designated by the President, may questioned the power of the United States to enforce these laws beyond the search any vessel of the United States in port or on the high seas suspected of 3-m.ile limit, and the Tribunal of Arbitration of Paris sustained the position having violated or of having an intention to violate the provisions of this act, of Great Britain. and may seize such vessel and the offending officers and crew and bring them That tribunal, however, recognizing the duty of the Governments con­ into the most accessible port of the States and Territory mentioned in sec­ cerned to protect and preserve the herd, adopted regulations respecting tion 5 of this act for trial. pelagic sealing which it thought would be adequate for the :protection of the SEC. !J. That the importation into the United States by any person what­ seals. Under these regulations it became lawful for Amencan citizens ::md soever of fur-seal skins taken in the waters mentioned in this act, whether vessels to engage in pelagic sealing. The first year's experience in the appli­ raw. dressed, dyed, or manufactured, is hereby prohibited, and all such arti­ cation of the regulations proved that they would be entirely inadequate for cles imported after this act shall take effect shall not be permitted to be ex­ the protection of the seal'!, but that, on the contrary, if pelagic sealing con­ ported, but shall be seized and destroyed by _the proper officers of the United tinued under them, the herd would be rapicliy diminished and very soon be States. · commercially exterminated. Each subsequent year has more fully demon­ SEC. 10. That the President shall have power to make all necessary regula­ strated this conclusion. In the statement of facts recently agreed upon tions to carry this act into effect. between the American, British, and Canadian experts it is shown that the herd has been diminished to about one-fifth of i ts normal condition, and The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the present consideration that it has ah·eady become so depleted that it is neither profitable to the of this bill? lessees nor the -pelagic sealers. ~ir. JOHNSON of North Dakota. Mr. Speaker, I would like to It is humiliatmg to h~;~.ve to acknowledge that American citizens and ves­ sels have been active participants in this ruinous and shameless slaughter. have an understanding as to the time that is to be allowed for In the judgment of our experts and those most competent to devise a remedy debate. Otherwise I shall have to object. for this state of affairs, the continued decrease of the herd can be stopped Mr. HITT. I will yield to the gentleman whatever time he and restoration to its normal state be brought about only by the total sus­ pension of pelagic sealing. In this opinion I fully concur, and as the first step desires. I do not know of any other member who wishes to dis­ in the direction it should be made unlawful for citizens of the United States cuss the bill. to engage in the business. Dr. David Starr Jordan, the accomplished natural­ There was no objection. ist, who, under appointment of the President, has during the past two years visited the Pribilof Islands and made a thorough study of the condition of the The SPEAKER. The question is on the third reading of the seals, has recommended the abolition of pelagic sealing as the only adequate Senate bill. means of protecting the herd. And he adds: "It would be well far America Mr. HITT. Mr. Speaker, the bill before the House, and which to lead the way in stopping pelagic sealing by restraining her own citizens without waiting for the action of other nations. We can ask fot· protection has passad the Senate, is exactly the same as a bill which was sent with better grace when we have accorded unasked protection to others." to the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House by the Secre­ .My predecessor, in recommending action by Congress, said: "I firmly be­ tary of State, and through him by the Secretary of the Treasury, and lieve the United StatE's Government should prohibit pelagic sealing by its own citizens. I think it ought to go into this controversy with clean hands. considered there very carefully. It was unanimously approved It is an immoral pursuit; 75 per cent of the seals killed at sea are females; 75 by all the members of that committee. I may state that owing to per cent of the females killed are heavy with young or have pups on t-he a confusjon in the indorsement of reference, the original bill islands. Their young thereupon die with them or starve on the islands. It which was considered in the committee, and which the committee is an inhuman butchery; and I believe it is the duty of the United States to stop it as regards at least its own citizens." instructed me to ask unanimous consent to take up, was referred In accordance with the foregoing views, I have caused to be drafted a bill to the Committee on Ways and Means. In the record of the for enactment into a law by Congress, which, if it meets with your approval House proceedings a few days ago it is mentioned as reported and does not in your opinion conflict with pending or prospective negotia­ tions, I have to suggest may be brought to the attention of the proper com­ from that committee, which is erroneous. mittees of Congress for consideration and action. I have to add that in view The reasons for this bill are stated by the Secretary of State and of the fact that the next sealing season begins the last of December or early Secretary of the Treasury in two letters which I hold in my hand. in January, it is of urgent importance that prompt action be taken, as other· wise American sealing vessel'> will have put to s~a and they will participate in They are as follows: the further slaughter and destruction of the herd. DEPARTME iT OF STATE, Washington, Decembe1· 6, 1897. Respectfully, yours, L. J. GAGE, Secretary. SIR: By direction of the President, I desire to bring to your attention the The SECRETARY OF STATE. subject of the prohibition of citizens of the United States from engaging in the killing of fur seals in the waters of the North Pacific Ocean, with a view to such action by Congress as the subject may require. The purpose briefly is this: It is to again prohibit pelagic seal­ The accompanying letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, to whose ing. A law which we passed years ago prohibited the hunting of Department the administration of the seal islands pertains, sets forth the seals upon the high seas in all Alaskan waters. reasons which from an administrative point of view call for the legislation requested. In addition to these there are strong diplomatic reasons why By the language then used, prohibiting the catching of seals immediate action should be had. in "the territory" or '"waters of Alaska," we meant the whole For the past three years, during which representations have been made Bering Sea east of the one hundred and eightieth meridian. A by this Department to the British Government protesting against the con­ tinuance of the indiscriminate slaughter of the seals by pelagic sealing which question was raised by the British Government as to the extent of was resulting in the destruction of a valuable industry of the Unitt>d States, our marine jurisdiction, they contending that our Government the answer has been made that British subjects were not the only partici­ had no authority beyond the 3-mile ljmit and we contending that pants in this practice and were not solely responsible for the decrease of the the waters of Bering Sea east of the Russian boundary were waters herd. The Secretary of the Treasury has pointed out the effect of the award of the Paris Tribunal of Arbitration in nullifying the laws of the United of Alaska and under the authority of Congress. The question States in their application to the hi&"h seas, and in making it lawful for citi­ was submitted to arbitration, and in the terms of the treaty mak­ zens of the United States to engage m pelagic sealing. ing the submission it was agreed that the decision of the tribunal Since the regulations of that tribunal have been in force, a comparatively should be binding upon the citizens and subjects of both parties. ~h~~ ~u~~~~n~~ tom~~ff::e 't'hs:;~ !~~fd~~~i;y;~e~~~1':te:l!s~\~~:h~~~ The Tribunal of Arbitration decidedag~instus-that we had no invested in the scaling vessels which sail from Canadian ports under the jurisdiction beyond the 3-mile limit-so that that law wa.s annulled British flag. This condition of affairs has made it very embarrassing to the Government of the United States to press its demands upon Great Britain by the decision made under the treaty, even as applicable to citi­ for a further restriction or the abolition of pelagic sealing. zens of the United States. I could read, if it would not take too A convention has recently been signed between the United States, Japan. much time, from the decision of the court in the case (United and Russia providing for a JOint prohibition of_-pelagicsealingfor the coming season, on condition that Great Britain shall adhere to it. States court of appeals in the case of La Ninja), stating this The convention has in view the initiation of negotiations between the four much more fully, but the result, in brief, is that we are now left powers for an agreement upon measures for the adequate protection of the without any law prohibitin.g persons who are subject to our laws seals and the restoration of the herds to their normal condition. These ne­ gotiations will be facilitated by the speedy passage of a law prohibiting from hunting seals on the high sea. While this is not so impor­ American citizens from engaging in pelagic sealing. In view of these pend· tant practically, so far as the number of sealers from the United ing negotiations, and of the fact that another sealing season will begin States is concerned, it has become quite important in the negotia­ toward the last of the present month, I urgently recommend that a bill to ac­ complish the purpose set forth i11 the letter of the Secretary of the Treas­ tions which are pending. ury may, if possible, be enacted into a law before the holiday recess. Mr. HOPKINS. The gentleman stated the other day that this Respectfully, yours, proposed legislation could have no effect upon the Canadian and JOHN SHERMAN. Ron. ROBERT R. HITT, British sealers or those of any other country. Chairman Committee on Fm·eign Affai1·s Mr. HITT. I am just coming to that. of the House of Representatives. Mr. HOPKINS. The position in this bill is unlimited as to time, and I would ask my colleague if it would not be better to have TREASURY DEPARTMENT, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY, some limit fixed, so that if the negotiations which are now pend­ Washington, D. C., DecemberS, 1897. ing between our Government and Great Britain with reference to SIR: I desire to bring to your attention the subject of the killing of fur seals as pursued by American citizens in the waters of the North Pacific the prohibition of hunting seals by Canadians and other foreign­ Ocean and Bering Sea. The practice is, in my opinion, inconsistent with the ers should fall through, our countrymen could have the same. duty which the Government of the United States has assumed respecting the privileges in Bering Sea that would be enjoyed by the citizens of fur seals resorting to the Pribilof Islands. Soon after the acquisition of Alaska, laws were enacted making it unlaw­ other countries? ful to kill any fur seal either on the jslands or in the waters of Alaska except Mr. HITT. I will answer that by sayjng that we are aiming, under regulations to be prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury, and and the purpose of this bill is, to aid in the discouragement of the killing of feiUc'l.1e seals was absolutely prohibited. When the privilege of taking seals on the Pribilof Islands under strict supervision was granted to pelagic sealing. But we ought first to prevent our own citizens the lessees for a valuable consider ation, it became both the duty and the from engaging in that kind of work before denouncing others. 216 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEM:BER 16,

There are probably not many of them who do it. It costs the In that state of things~ when the profit has been so greatly re­ Government in loss of revenue of the United States about $12.62i duced in all forms of this business, we wish to restore protection­ whenever an American poacher kills a seal. The American and we think we can do so, for the interest enlisted against it is poacher, we must confess, is not always under the American flag; not so great as fonnerly-we hope to restore protection to the seal he is often under the British flag. They had a lesson several upon the high seas as well as upon the islands. In order to be years ago, when a British claim for damages for arrests in pelagic consistent, to be sincere and honest, the first step, when we are sealing came up, of the advantage of being under that flag, and claiming that it is unneighborly and barbarous and inhuman to since that time American citizens who wish to engage in seal kill the mother seal and the unborn seal in this way, is to prohibit poaching go up to Victoria and get under the British flag. This it ourselves, for as the Secretary has said in his letter we are met fact is referred to in Secretary Sherman's letter. at each step of the negotiations with embarrassment. The ques­ Mr. HOPKINS. But if these pending negotiations should fall tion may well be asked us, If it is wrong, why do you do it, and through, then, there being no prohibition on the Canadians from why do you not prevent it by your own people? engaging in this business, this law would absolutely prohibit Mr. Speaker, I do not wish to take up further time; but I be­ American citizens from going into Bering Sea for that purpose, lieve my friend from North Dakota [Mr. JOHNSON] desires to while leaving it entirely open for the Canadians. Would not that make some remarks. be the real effect of the law as it stands in this bill in case the Mr. HEPBURN. One other question before the gentleman from negotiations should fail? illinois takes his seat. Is it not a fact that the difficulties thrown 1\fr. JllTT. Yes; it would prohibit Americans from pelagic in the way of our contention during the negotiations on this sub­ sealing, and we have not yet secured any agreement prohibiting ject have come from Canada rather than from Great Britain? Canadians. Mr. HITT. That is true. The gentleman, I know, wishes to defend any practical or really 1\Ir. J OHNSO.N of North Dakota addressed the Chair. profitable right that an American may have. But we do not ad­ The SPEAKER pro tempore (.Mr. DINGLEY). Does the gentle­ mit that there is any moral right in anybody to carry on pelagic man from Illinois yield to the gentleman from North Dakota.? sealing. We claim that it is all barbarous, unneighborly, contrary ~Ir. JOHNSON of North Dakob . I desire to take the floor in to the interest of mankind. That is the position of the American my own right. I am in opposition to the bill and could not take Government. We also know that as a practical fact no consid­ time from the gentleman from Illinois. erable American interest or industry is touched. There is no very The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from illinois great industry of Americans involved in this business. There are reserve tho remainder of his time? certain facts which show that pelagic sealing itself, as it is becom­ Mr. BITT. I do. ing less gainful, is dying out with the diminution of the herd. Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. ~ir. Speaker, I think we can It costs so much more to catch 5,000 or 10,000 seals in the open agree with the gentleman from Illinois that this industry of sea than it formerly did that this business is languishing. The pelagic sealing is insignificant, so far as the American part of it is share of Americans in the business has always been small. concerned. This bill is therefore nothing more or less than an It has generally been carried on under the British flag. But attempt to bolster up two great British industries, one located in whether the interest is large or small, this is a very important the Bering Sea and the other located in London, both of which fact in regard to the logic and honesty of our position in the nego­ are ironclad monopolies. tiation. We ought to forbid our own citizens doing what we It is true, as the experts agreed in Washington in October last, want others to forbid as barbarous. We are now pressing a ne· that we shall not probably extinguish the last one of the speci­ gotiation to which Russia and Japan have assented, and Great mens of seals-the last of the race-by pelagic sealing; but it is Britain has also assented to some important underlying facts also true, as agreed upon by the experts of both Governments, within the last few weeks. So it is progressing. The result of that for commercial purposes the herd is already extinct. We are this negotiation, we hope, will be to stop pelagic sealing. Now, called upon not to protect, therefore, an existing herd, because the this is a matter of very great importance to our Treasury, to our herd as it now exists is not worth protecting. That is agreed upon. country, and to the prosperity of our citizens, for if we can st'Op But we are called upon to legislate in such manner as to build up pelagic sealing, the herd, we trust, will again increase to such a a herd. degree as to afford an annual yield of 100,000 a year of male kill­ . That, Mr. Speaker, is something that has been tried in vain able seals. many times before. There have been at least thirty herds of seals Mr. HEPBURN. Has any gentleman any data from which he discovered at various times, b:nt none of them has ever been re­ can give the House information as to the value of pelagic sealing cuperated when it has been commercially destroyed. to the Canadians? What does it amount to annually to them? I On this subject, as to what has become of the other herds, I have seen the statement made that the aggregate is a quarter of wish to read a short compilation which I made when we had this a million of dollars. I have also seen the amount stated as half a subject under consideration in the last Congress: million. What has become of other herds? Captain Cook discovered seaLs on Deso­ Mr. HITT. No man can state wi.th precision its value in dol­ lation and South Shetland islands, nearly south from Cape Horn. They were lars. The number of seals killed at sea altogethffi" during the pres­ stripped of seal life in a few years-320.000 skins being taken in 1820 and 1821. ent year, so far as reported, was 25,079. There used to be a very Kergulen Land, Southern Indian Ocean; discovered in 1772. In twenty­ eight years 1,200,000 skins were taken there and the herd exterminated. great number of seals annually killed at sea-many more than at Crozett Islands, same ocean, same fate. present, sometimes over 60,000. The number is steadily diminish­ Mas-a-Fuera Island. in South Pacific, off coast of ; discovered in 1797; ing from year to year with the diminishing profit. herd at that time estima.ted at 2,000,000 or 3,000,000; 3,000,000 carried to China Mr. HEPBURN. Probably, then, the profit does not exceed a in seven years and herd destroyed. South Georgia, in the South Atlantic, produced over a million skins in a quarter of a million dollars. few years; herd extinct. Mr. HITT. I can not say. The profit varies with the price of Coast of South America about Cape Horn teemed with seal life when dis­ the seal and the cost of hunting on the high seas, which is con­ covered. Now only a few stragglers are found; not enough to p:1.y to hunt. As late as 1854: a smal1 se:1.l island less th:.m a mile in diameter was discov­ stantly increasing. It takes mor.e ships and men to catch a thou­ ered in the Japan Sea by Americans. A herd of 50,000 seals was extermi­ sand seals than formerly. There has been, in past years, much nated in three years. assertion about the millions of seals that could never be touched Now there are only three herds left in the world. First. A small herd on the Lobos Islands, in the mouth of the River La or substantially diminished in the open sea, as contended by the Plata; capacity, 5,000 to 12,000 skins per annum; protected by Republic of .British; and, on the other hand, the imminent utter destruction Uruguay. and extinction of the herd, as contended for by the Americans. Second. The herd on the islands of Copper :.md Bering, coast of Kamchatka; capacity, 40,000 skins per annum; J>rotected by the Russian Government. The fact, as agreed upon very recently by the delegates fi•om Third. Our Alaska herd on thePribilof Islands; estimatedfrom6,500,000in Great Britain and the United States, is that- 1887 down to 175,000 in 1895. • It is idle to talk about restoring a seal liard when once broken up. It has The diminution of the herd is yet far from a stage which involves or never baen done. In the Southern Hemisphere there are well-authenticated threatens the actual extermination of the species- cases where a depleted herd was not hunted for fifty years--loft undis­ That is, the utter extinction of the last one- turbed-and yet it did not recuperate. Our Alaska seal herd is an anomaly. So long as that herd was only exposed to slaughter for a few da.ys in the so long as it is protected in its haunts on land. It is not possible during spring, whilo rushing between the Aleutian Islands in passing from the the continuance of the conservative methods at present in force upon the North Pacific to Bering Sea, and again for a few days in the fall while passing islands, etc. the same points going back to the Pacific, so Ion~ as no man knew whence Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. I ask the gentleman to read they came or whither they went or where they lived either in winter or in summer, they were comparatively safe. But when Pribilof discovered the a few lines fw'ther in that agreement, showing whether the ex­ islands of St. Paul and St. George, in Bering Sea, where th.3 seals resort and perts here in Washington last October did not decide that com­ stay in summer, then it became possible to exterminate the herd any sum­ mercially the herd is already extinguished. mer. They would have bean so exterminated in a very few years but for the prot.ection of the Russian Government. Mr. HITT. I will read to the conclusion of the paragraph: Being safe in summer under protecting regulations and safe in winter un­ It is not possible durinlr the continuance of the conservative methods at der their ancient shield of secrecy as towheretbeywerein the almost bound­ present in force upon the islands, with the further safeguard of the protected less Pacific, it was -still possible for this herd to exist for a few years. But zone at sea, that any pelagic killing should accomplish this final end. There when the British Government sent four war ships into the Pacific for the ex­ is evidence, however, that in its present condition the herd yields an incon­ press purpose of following the herd all winter and of r evealing the route to siderable return either to the lessees of the islands or to the owners of the Canadian sealers-when that expedition succeeded in its plan and published pelagic fleet. its charts, then the herd was doomed. 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 217

After fifty years of rest and opportunity for recuperation these to contain only 175,500 individuals. Since then I have not the antarctic feeding grounds were visited and a few straggling ani­ figures as to the estimates of the number existing in the herd, but malB found, but not enough to pay for hunting-to furnish a cargo I have very fair data from which we can draw the conclusion that for a vessel. Only two herds worth mentioning are now left~ one the dwindling process has continued. on the Commander Islands and our own, or what is left of it, on In 1896 the pelagic sealers of all nations got 43,000 skins, and on the Pribilof Islands. A few have been preserved at the mouth of the land there were killed 30,000; total, 73,000. In the year 1897 the La Plata River in Uruguay and p1·otected by that Government, the pelagic sealers got only 24,000 and the land catch amounted to and a few have also been discovered and preserved off the Cape of only20,000, or a iotal of 44,000 this year and 73,000 the year before. Good Hope, under the protection of the Government of Cape Col­ There were only about half as many caught this year as last year, ony. In 1854 a herd was discovered in the Japanese Sea, but in although permission was given to the lessees of the Pl'ibilof one year after their discovery the whole herd of 50,000 were taken Islands to catch every killable seal that they could· find this year. and destroyed. The evidence shows conclusively to my mind that the experts who The seal, Mr. Speaker, is a very peculiar animal, unfit for living met in Washington last October were right in saying that com­ in competition with man. In the regular order of things it should mercially the herd is now destroyed and that pelagic sealing is no have been destroyed with the great auk and the Irish elk and other longer profitable either to the Canadians or to us. I wish to read animals of the Glacial period. He can neither run nor fight. a little extract from the speech of one of these commissioners on Why was the herd preserved up to the present time? It was his return to Canada: done und~r very peculiar circumstances, and I will call your TORO~""TO, No-vember !!7. attention briefly to the facts in connection with it. Sir Louis H. Davies, at a meeting of Liberals here last night, referred to With the discovery of these islands by the Russians, something his recent visit to Washington to attend the seal conference. He said: " The seal experts settled the question of fact in such a way that hereafter over one hundred years ago, the seals were protected on shore. it can not be opened up. We know exactly where we are. We know that That Government spent some eighteen years sendin~ out expedi­ the seal herd has diminished in an extraordinary degreeiu late years, but we tions trying to find where the seals lived in the summer. Up to know that pelagic sealing has diminished more than the herd and by a far greater percentage. We know, too, as a declaration of the experts of both that time they were seen twice a year, going, like birds of passage, countries, that there is no immediate danger of the extinction of the herd, north to south in autumn, and south to north in spring or early and that the kind of pelagic sealing :practiced by Canadian fishermen does summer, according to the season. About June or July millions not imperil or threaten the existence of the herd; and we lrnow, further, that as a commercial venture it does not pay e~ther country. That is about the of them would pass through the passes between the Aleutian sum and substance of the case." Islands, passing northward into Bering Sea, while along inNovem­ Continuing. Sir Louis sa.id it was pointed on t to the Americans that Canada ber millions would suddenly appear, passing into the Pacific. had taken her stand in reference to her tariff; had proclaimed and given Beyond that fact, until about one hundred years ago, no man effect to a preferential trade arrangement, and that the representatives could not en.tez: into any agreement which should, directly <:>r indirectly, prejudice knew where they were, either in the winter or summer. For the 11rm01ple of preference. They were told that the nght to catch seals being eighteen years systematic explorations by the Russian Govern­ a national right, vindicated by the great Paris Tribunal as a legitimate indus­ ment were made, and they finally discovered the summer's habitat try on the part of British subjects, could not be dis~osed of for a mere money consideration; that Canada did not sell nationalnghts for money, but that upon the Pribilof Islands. It then became possible to destroy the her representatives were willing that it should be t1·eated as one of a number herd in the summer time when they went ashore, and this would of those large questions and put, as it were, in the hodgepodge in the settle- have been the result but for regulations of the Russian Govern­ ment. · ment. But until1893 their winter habitat was unknown, and there If the United States could see their way clear to admit our lumber, to make coal reci~rocally free on both sides, to make fish, salt and fresh, free, and is abundant evidence on that subject in the records of Congress. such articles as barley, eggs, potatoes, and other things of that kind, an Now, what did the British Government do? They sent three arrangement might be made which would be mutually profitable and satis­ war vessels and one merchant steamer with instructions to follow factory to both countries. Sir Wilf1·ied Laurier had not surrendered one the herd all winter in the Pacific Ocean and ascertain their loca­ iota of Canadian rights or Canadian privileges. tion from time to time. Up to 1890 the seals were safe in the That is the condition on which they will join us in forbidding secrecy of their wanderings in the wide Pacific. But the English pelagic sealing-namely, that we allow them to write our tariff Government, coming to the assistance of their hunters and sailors, laws. Now, I for one would be willing to let themgoanywhere, sent its navy out for the express purpose of following the seals and without mentioning any particular place, rather than to allow mapping out their route. them t.o write our tariff laws, especially when the condition They did so, and they published those charts, which are now which they offer us is. that if they are allowed to write our tariff accessible to and used by every sealer in the Pacific. Mr. Ham­ laws, then we shall have the p1'ivilege of being their servants in lin, formerly Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, stated before protecting a great British industry on the Pacific Ocean and the Committee on Ways and Means in the last Congress that he another one in London. · could now take these charts and tell within a few miles where The testimony in the records of the House shows conclusively that seal herd was every hour of the winter. With such charts as that there are only 300 American citizens engaged in tanning, that, published by the English Government for the express pur­ dressing, or dyeing these fur-seal skins. some in Albany and some pose of informing their seamen and fishermen where the herd is, in Brooklyn, and that only in an experimental way, while the evi­ the herd is doomed. What a contrast do we exhibit to the Eng­ dence shows that from 2,000 to as high as 50,000 people are engaged lish Government! Instead of coming to the assistance of our sea­ in London in the same industry. This business of dressing sealskins men in competition with other nations upon the high seas, we are and tanning and dyeing them is as distinctively a British industry proposing here to make it a criminal offense for one of our citi­ as the making of pocketknives at Sheffield. I will put in the zens to engage in an occupation which is lawful for every other RECORD the evidence on this subject-unless some one wishes to citizen of the world. see it-from volume 9, Report of Paris Tribunal, pages 581 and We propose to make that criminal which is now lawful and 583: commendable. The position that· it is barbarous to hunt seals on LOSS TO GREAT BRITAIN. the high seas is the merest fiction and sentiment. If that is the [H. S. Bevington, page 552.] only foundation upon which we stand, the sooner we reexamine The business of dealing in fur-seal skins in the citv of London has become the foundation the better. True, a large percentage of the seals an established and important industry. Deponent -is informed that prac­ killed at sea al'e females, but since when did it become barbar tically all the seal skins in the world are sold in London, and the number runs up in the year to between 100,000 and 200,000, averaging considerably rous in hunting game to kill females? Since when did it be­ over 150,000 a year. These skins are sold for the most part either by the come barbarous in buying and selling and butchering domestic firm of C. M. Lampson & Co., through their brokers, Goad, Rigg & Co., or animals to kill females as well as males? • It does not apply to any by the firm of Culverwell, Brooks & Co. At the auction sales, which are advertised twice or three times in the year by these firms, skins are bought other kind of game. It does not apply to any kind of domestic by dealers from all over the•world, who are present either in: person or by stock. Surely, there is nothing barbarous in t-aking the females proxy. as well as the males in a chase on the open sea, and why should The next stage in the industry is the dressing and dyeing of the furs, and practjcalJy the whole of these fur-seal skins sold in London are dressed and there not be a larger percentage of females at sea than males, when dyed in that city. The principal firms being engaged in that business are only males are killed on shore? They are polygamists. The males C. W. Martin & Sons and George Rice. Deponent's own firm dress a small have harems of forty or fifty members on the Pribilof Islands. number of skins and have dressed in one year as many as 23,000, and formerly dyed large numbers of skins, but do not now dye skins, as the secrets of the Our laws for twenty-six years have forbidden the killing of present fashionable color are now in the hands of other firms. After having females on shore. For twenty years-1~70 to 1890-the Alaska been dressed and dyed, the skins of the fur seal are then passed into the Commercial Company killed 100,000 males annually on the shore. hands of fur merchants, by whom in turn they are passed to furriers and Of course, the preponderance of females in the herd at sea would drapers and retail dealers generally. Deponent estimates the total nnm· ber of persons engaged in one way or another, directly or indirectly, in the necessarily result from our own lawful killing of males upon the fur-seal industry in the city of London at at least two or three thousand, islands. many of whom are skilled laborers, all receiving high wages. In 1874. Mr. Elliott, the expert of the Government, sent from the That a large amount of capital is also invested in the business in the city of London, and the precise value of the industry can bo estimated by reck­ Smithsonian Institution, estimated there were 4,700,000 seals in oning the .amount expended in the various processes which deponent has the herd. In 1890 Mr. Elliott estimates only one-third as many. enumerated upon each skin. For instance, after the skins arrive at the Lon­ In 18U5, in Mr. DINGLEY'S report from the Ways and Means Com­ don market they are sold at the sales at prices which in the year 1890 aver­ aged, say, 80 shillings atJiece. The commissions on the selling of the goods, in­ mittee to this House, based upon the reports of our experts and cluding warehousing, msurance, etc., deponent believes amounted to 6 per resident agents of the Treasury De~tment, the herd was stated cent o! the price obtained. _ 218 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. D EOE:MBER 16,

That the amount paid for dressing, dyeing, and machining each skin aver­ nnmber of workmen employed, amounting, including the dressers, dyers, ages, say, 16 shillings. These processes take together about four or five months. handlers, and persons employed in the manufactories of the furriers, to about The next expenditure upon the skin is, say, an average of 5 shillings at least 3,000. It is difficult to make any correct estimate of the number of people so for each skin for cutting up, and that thereafter there will be an average of at employecl, but deponent says that he has recently had occasion to look into least from 3 shillings to 4 shillings per skin expended in quilting, lining, and the question in his capacity as master of the Skinners' Company and he be­ making up the jackets or other garments, showing a total expenditure upon lieves the above figure to be substantially correct. each skin for labor alone, in the city of London, of 25 shillings in addition to That a large number of persons so employed are skilled laborers and most the percentage paid for brokerage, before the process of manufacture began, of them hav-e families dependent upon their labors for their S;Jpport. The and the most of this money is actually paid out in wages. wages paid in some cases are as high as £3 or £4 a week, and perhaps the av­ Deponent says that in the abo\e estimates he has giT"en the bottom fig­ erage wages of the whole number may be safely estimated at £1 per week. ures and that the amount actually expended upon the skins in the city of That many of these persons know no other business than that in which they London undoubtedly averages u.larger sum. Thic; would make, on an a\er­ are at present engaged. age of 200,000 skins a year, which is not excessive, a total expenditure annu­ [Emil Teichmann, page 582.] ally in the city of London of £250,000, minus the amounts paid for cutting A very large amount of capital is invested in the Kingdom of Great Brilaiu and making up in respect to the skins sent to the United States. in the business. 1t is, in deponent's judgment, fair to estimate the amount of [Alfred Fraser, page 558.] capital invested in the business in one way or another to have been at tiues Deponent says that the number of persons who are employed in the hand­ as much as £1,000,000, and that there have been until lately dependent upon ling, dressing, dyeing, cutting, and manufacturing of seal skins in the city of this industry, in the city of London, about 2,000 skilled workmen, most of London is about 2,000, many of whom are skillAd laborers, earning as high as whom have families dependent upon them for support, aud the amount of £3 or £4 a week. Deponent estimates the amount paid in the city of London wa~~s paid to those people deponent estimates on the average at about 30 for wa~es in the preparation of fur-seal skins for a manufacturer's uses, and shillings per week, making an aggregate of £150,000 per annum. excludm~ the wages of manufadurers' emyloyees, prior to the beginning of [C. A. Williams, page 538.] the pelagic sealing in 1&..'\S, at about £100,000 per annum. Deponent further says that the number of :persons who are engaged in the [Arthur Hirschel, page 563. ] handlinoo, dressing, and dyeing of seal skins m Great Britain is about 2.000, A large capital , the amount of which, however, it would be dffiicult to esti­ many ofwhom are expert workmen and receive high wages; and the num­ mate, is invested in the business of selling raw fur-sealskins. Two firms own ber in the United States is about 300. The number of pe1·sons engaged upon large warehouses, and one of them expensive cold-storage vaults, portions of the poaching vessels is about 10 to each vessel, and a considerable number of which are used exclusively tor the purpose of storing fur-seal skins. the persons engaged upon the Canadian sealers are American citizens. About seven firms are engaged in the dressing and dyein~ of seal skins. of Every one of these skins is carried to London, there to be tanned, which a very much larger amount is done in London than many other city in the world. ln this branch of the fur-seal industry there arc invested about dyed, and otherwise prepared for market. They are worthless in £80,000 in permanent plant, which would become entirely useless if the seal­ the condition in which they are caught. Up to about 1870 they skin industry were to come to an end. were commercially worthless. They were in fashion only in China, About 12,000 dressed and dyed Alaska fur-seal skins, which may be valued and never brought a high price, say from 50 cents to $5 apiece. at £5 a skin, are annually manufactured into garments in London, n.nd a very much larger proportion of Copper and Northwest Coast skins are so The value of a seal skin depends not on its original intrinsic worth, consumed. but on the whims of fashion. and the art that adds the chief value The seal-skin industry furnishes occupation to workingmen in London as is a trade secret, mostly in dyeing the skins. Seal-skin garments, follows: To about 600 dressers and dyers; to about 1,400 cutters, nailers.J. sew­ ers, and other laborers engaged in manufacturing seal-skin articles. .n{any when made up ready for wear, have no resemblance in appearance of those employed as above are skilled laborers, who, in any other employ­ to seals in the ocean or skins before they are clipped and colbred. ment, would be but ordinary laborers. Some of them have been engaged in :Mr. STEELE. Some are prepared in Buffalo, are they not? I this industry from childhood. In the foregoing no account is taken of the numerous clerks, salesmen, and porters, of whom large numbers owe their think they have an establishment, quite a large one, there. means of support to the trade in fur-seal skins. Mr. JOHNSON of NortJ;l Dakota. There may be, though that I believe that, in round numbers, the capital invest~d in this industry in must have been established since 1893. London amounts to £1,000,000, and that when a full Alaska catch came to market the weekly amount expended in wages in connection with all the Mr. STEELE. It might have been. catches was about £2,500 or £3,000 a week. 1\fr. McCLEARY. You said there were about 300 in this coun­ [Sir G. C. Lampson, page 565.] try, perhaps. That the business at the present time has attained the rauk of an impor­ 1\fr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. Yes; that is the testimony of tant industry, in which there is embarked in the city of London a large C. 0. Williams before the Paris Tribunal. I will read some of the amount of capital and upon which there is dependent a large number of evidence on the subject of this being distinctly a British industry. workmen and employees. The amount of capital from time to time invested in the business is cor­ Mr. STEELE. A very large percentage of them, no doubt, are rectly stated, deponent believes, by Mr. Teichmann, at as much as £1,000,000, cured and colored in London. and until within a year or two the numbers of persons depending upon the Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. On this subject C. Williams industry for their support has likewise been correctly si:ated by Mr. Teich­ 0. mann, approximately at 2,000 persons, receiving on an average a weekly wage makes this statement: of 00 shillings, and most of them having families dependent upon their labors Deponent further says that the number of .Persons who are engaged in the for their support. handling, dressing, and dyeing of seal sldns m Great Britain is about 2,000, [Sir G. C. Lampson, page 566.] many of whom are expert workmen and receive high wages, and the number During the last two years the diminution and irregularity of the supply of in the United States is about 300. (Volume 9, page 584.) fur and seal skins has caused some decrease in the amount of persons engaged Here is the testimony of Arthur Hirschel: in the industry, but deponent is not able to state exactly to what extent such I believe that, in round numbers, the capital invested in this industry in decrease has taken place. London amounts to £1,000,000, and that when a full Alaska catch came to [Walter E . Martin, page 567.] market, the weekly amount expended in w~ges in connection with all the That deponent has made no examination of the books of his firm for the catches was about £2,500 or £3,000 a week. (Volume 9, page 5S2.) purpose of seeing precisely the number of skins annually dressed and dyed Sir G. C. Lamson testifies to the same effect, and his testimony by his sa.id firm and its predecessor, but it is the fact that his said firm in one year dressed 150,000 fur-seal skins, and of that number dyed 100,000, and it is is reported on the same page as that of Hirschel. also the fact that until within the last two years his firm dressed upward of I think there will be no dispute on that point, that it is a Brit­ 110,000 or 120,000 skins in each year and dyed upward of 100,000 skins so ish industry and not an American industry. Most of the money dressed. is made in London. Most of the money that constitutes the value [Walter E. Martin, page 568.] of the seal skin is paid out in wages in the city of London, where The firm of C. W. Martin & Sons has employed until the last two years 500 per­ sons, and employ at the present moment about 460 persons, most of whom are the trade secret is held for dyeing these skins and making them skilled laborers, receiving on an average at least 30 shillings a week, and most valuable. of whom have families dependent upon them for their support. Deponent I will not take the time to repeat the various items of the ex­ estimates that the total number of persons employed directly or indirectly in the business of dressing, dyeing, ha.ndling, and cutting fur-seal skins up to penses incident to tanning, dressing, and dyeing these skins, but within the last two years in the city of London was about 2,000. the foregoing testimony of H. S. Bevington shows the average [Henry Poland, page 571.] expense for labor in London is 25 shillings per skin. Now, the The principal dressers and dyers of the city of London at the present time amount paid out for the fur skin is enhanced much more than are C. W. Martin & Co. and George Rice, and skins are also dressed and dyed the amount paid in wages. It would be very interesting to 1'110W by other persons. The fur-seal business has attained very considerable drmensions in the city of London, large amounts of capital being invested the amount of money Mrned in wages in America by labor ex­ therein, and probably in and about the city of London there are employed in pended on these skins before they get to London. the fur-seal skin busmess as many as 3,000 persons, most of whom are skilled My duties as such superintendent demanded that I should be thoroughly hands, some of whom receive as high as £3 or £4 a week, and many if not conversant with all the details of shipping and transporting seal skins taken, most of whom have families dependent upon them for support, and the necessary expenses incurred by my employers. From my knowledge [George Rice, page 574.] of such expenditures I herewith submit the following statement in relation That the business of handling and dealing in fur-seal skins has become, in to the C{)st of putting the annual quota. of skins obtained on the Pnbilof the city of London, an established and important industry. That deponent Islands upon the market when a hundred thousand seals are killed, and I himself, for instance, employs at the present time from 400 to 500 laborers, believe such statement to be practically correct: who are mostly engaged m one way or another upon fur-seal skins, many of Maintenance of island establishments ______------$12.000 whom are skilled workmen receiving good wages, and many of them having Salaries of employees (exclusive of natives)------·- ____ ------____ 12;000 families dependent upon them for their support. Transportation to San Francisco ______------.------.----- _ ----- 15,000 Deponent estimates the total number of people engaged in the business of Transportation, San Francisco to New York------20,000 handling, dyeing, dressing, and treating fur-seal skins up to the time the Transportation, New York to London------6,000 skins pass into the hands of the furriers at about 2,000. In addition to the Insurance, $1J400,000 at lper cent_ ------14,000 numbers so employed, a much larger number of furriers, employees, and Commission ror selling, 2t pPr cent of $1,500,000 ______37,500 the employees of the retail merchants are concerned directly or indirectly Storage, cooperage, twine, salt, etc ______------··· 15,500 in handling or manufacturing the fur-seal skins or fur-seal skin garments. Interest on the plant, 10 per cent of 8100,000 ------___ _------·------10,000 Deponent further says that a large amount of capital is in one way or an­ Annual rental paid to Government, per terms of lease·-----···-··---- 60,000 other invested in the city of London in the business above enumerated. Obligations of the lease for fish, fuel, medicines, etC------·------25,000 Supervision of business from San Francisco·------20,000 [W. C. B. Stamp, page 576.] First cost of skins to natives .... _------.---··------40, UCO · That the fur-seal skin business had become an important industry in the city of London, in which a large amount of capital was invested and a large Cost of 100,000 skins delivered in London, sold •••••• ·--····-······ 287,000 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 219

Here is the estimate of the superintendent of the Alaska Com­ pany, provided the said company is not in default of payment of any part of the said $60,lXX) rental. mercial Company. The entire cost of the fur-sealskins laid down That it will furnish to the native inhabitants of said islands of St. George in London is given and shows what a miserable pittance of it goes and St. Paul annuaUy such quantity or number of dried s..-.lmon and such to any American laboring man. The largest item that goes to quantity of salt nnd such number of salt barrels for p;·eserdng their neces­ sary supply of meat as the Secretary of the Treasury shall from time to any American laboring man is the $20,000 earned by the railroads time det-ermine. between San Francisco and New York in carrying these skins to 'That it will a.lso furnish to the ~aid inhabitants SO tons of coal annually-, and the London market, and that is about all that American labor a sufficient number of comfortable dwellings in which said native mhab­ itants may reside: and will keep said dwellings in proper repair; and will gets out of it. · also pronde and keep in repair such suitable schoolhouses n.s may be neces­ The total expenditure sums up $287,000; that is, those skins sary, and will establish and maintain during ei~ht months of each year p:·opor cost this company when laid down in London 52.87 apiece, and schools for the education of the children on said islands, the same to be taught they sell for $30 apiece. Now, how much of this $287,000 is paid by competent teacher , who shall be paid by the company a fair compensa­ tion, all to tho satisfaction of the Secretary of the Tre~sury; and will also out in wages to American workingmen? provide and maintain a suitable house for religious worship; and will also Maintenance of island establishments, $12,000. provide a competent physician or physicians, and necessary and proper medi­ cines and medical supplies; and will also provide the necessariAs of life for tho This statement is not itemized, and there may be some Ameri­ widows and orphans and aged and infirm inhabitants of said islands who are can laborers there, employed to keep the boats and buildings in unable to provide for themselves; all of which foreo-oing agreements will be done and performed by the said company free of afi costs and charges to repair. said native inhabitants of said islands or to the United States. Salal"ies of employees (exclusive of natives), $12,000. The annual rental, together with all other pa¥!fients to the United St-ates, There are only seven or eight of those employees. provided for in this lease, shall be made and prud on or before the 1st day of April of each and every year during the existence of this lease, beginning Transportation to San Francisco, $15,000. With the 1st day of April, 1891. · I think this man is trying to make as extravagant a statement The said company further agrees to employ the native inhabitants of said islands to p erform such labor upon the islands as they are fitted to perform, as he can of what it costs his company to lay down these skins in and to pay therefor a fair and just compensation, such as may be fixed by London. The skins are all loaded into one boat and carried from the Secretary of the Treasury; and also agrees to contribute, as far as in its the islands to San Francisco at one trip. From 1875 to 1890 the power, all reasonable efforts to secure the comfort, health, education, and promote the morals and civilization of said native inhabitants. company carried off only one boat load a year. They had anum­ The said company also agrees faithfully to obey and abide by all rules and ber of trading posts in the Alaska country. They owned their regulation£~ that the Secretary of the Treasury has heretofore or may here­ own steamboat. They loaded their boat with merchandise in after establish or make in pursuance of law concerning the ta1.-ing of seals on said islands, and concerning the comfort, morals, and other interests of said San Francisco and made the round of these posts, and on their inhabitants, and all matters pertaining to !:laid islands and the taking of seals way home they dumped the entire 100,000 seal skins into the hold within the possession of the United States. It also agrees to obey and abide of the steamer and carried them to San Francisco. There may be by any restrictions or limitations upon the right to kill seals that the Secretary of the Treasury shall judge necessary, under the law, for the preservation some American citizens employed as sailors on that boat, but very of the seal fisheries of the United States; and it agrees that it will not kill, few. I doubt very much if it would have cost the company or permit to be killed, so far as it can prevent, in any year a great-er number $15,000 if they had paid regular freight rates on another boat. of seals than is authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury. The said company further agrees that it will not permit any of its agents Transportation, San Francisco to New York, $20,000. to keep, sell, give~ or dispose of any distilled spirits or spirituous liquors or Is it reasonable to believe that it cost only $20,000 to transport opium on either or said islands or the waters adjacent therato to any of the native inhabitants of said islands, such person not being a physician and fur­ these skins from San Francisco to New York by railroad, and nishing the same for use n.s a medicine. that it cost almost as much to bring them on the company's own It is understood and agreed that the number of fur seals to be taken and boat from the Pribilof Islands to San Francisco? I will admit killed for their skins upon said islands by the North American Commercial that of this 320,000 paid to the railroads some part, but only a Company during the year ending May 1, 18!11, shall not exceed 60,000. The Secretary of the Treasury reserves the right to terminate this lease very small part, has gone to a few American laborers, the brake­ and all rights of the North American Commercial Company under the same men and others employed on the railroad, but those are the only at any time on full and satisfactory proof that the said company has vio­ American laborers who will get any considerable part of the money lated any of the provisions and agreements of this lease, or in any of the la. ws of the United States, or any Treasury regulation respecting the taking of fur disbursed by the company as expenses on the skins before they are seals or concerning the islands of St. George and St. Paul or the inhabitants sold in London. thereof. Transportation, New York to London, $6,000. In witness whereof the parties hereto have set their hands and seals the Commission for selling, etc., $37,500. day and year above written. (Signed) WILLIAM WINDOM, That $37,500 goes to the brokers in London, and the $6,000 is Secretary of the Treasut·y. probably earned by some steamer carrying a flag other than ours. NORTH AMERICAN COMMERCIAL COMPANY, Storage, etc. (in London?), $15,500. (Signed by) I. LIEBES Annual rental paid Government, per terms of lease, $60,000. Pt·esident of the Nm·th .American Commercial Compf!.ny. That looks very nice on paper, and would be so if the Govern­ [North American Commercial Company, incorporated December, 1889.] Attest: menii got it, but the trouble is we do not get it. We simply get the (Signed) H. B. PARSONS, .Assistant Secretary. right to sue these men. Although their contract requires them to Instead of the $60,000 rental, $7.62-t royalty, and $2 per skin reve­ pay that money into the Treasury every year as rental, and a lot nue tax which they contracted to pay, they actually paid in 1892 more besides, how much of it did we get last year? Not a dollar. only $23,000. Howm uch did we get in 1891? Forty-three tho"Qsand How much did we get the year before? Not a shilling. How dollars only, out of the $180,000 due the United States for that much the year before? Not a son. How much in 1893? Not a year. Seventy thousand dollars is the sum total that we have rupee. We have to go back to 1892 before we can hear the clink received since the islands were leased to the present company, in of their dollars falling into the Federal Treasury, and even in that 1890. We have paid out over half a million dollars in a single year remote year of grace they lacked $108,686.52 of paying the annual for policing Bering Sea to protect these men. rental and dues stipulated in the contract. We have paid out over $2,500,000 in the last seven years to pro­ Here is a copy of a contract between the United States and the tect them, and they have paid us only $70,000. But, Mr. Speaker, North American Commercial Company, under which said com­ if it was only money that we had thrown into this hopper, I would pany is granted the exclusive right of taking fur seals upon the not complain so much. But we have also thrown the honor of Pribilof Islands in Alaska: the country into this vortex. When Ole Bull went to Russia to This indenture, made in duplicate this 12th day of March, 1890, by and between William Windom, Secretary_of the Treasury of the United States, play before the Czar, he was met in the anteroom by a pompous in pursuance of chapter 3 of Title XXlli, Revised Statutes, and the North bandmaster, and this dialogue took place: American Commercial Company, a corporation duly established under the BANDMASTER. Where is your fiddle? laws of the State of California, and actmg by I. Liebes, its president, in ac­ OLE BULL: I left it at my hotel. cordance with a resolution of said corporation adopted at a meeting of its BA.NDMASTEn. Didn't you know that the ob~ectof this meeting was to have board of directors held January(, 1890: Witnesseth, that the said Secretary of the Treasury, in consideration ~~~l{~b~~e in order that I might judge of he fitness of your music for the of the agreements hereinafter stated, hereby leases to the said North OLE BuLJJ. I play either for money or for honor. Playing before you American Commercial Company for a term of twenty years from the 1st day would involve neither. of May .1890. the exclusive right to engage in the husiness of takin{! fur seals · rLaughter.] ~~n~h! ~~~~~s0~f !e~s!f:~~g!~~1~~ls~~~ f~et~:i;;~;n~~b ~~-t;.aska-, and to :Mr. Speaker, do we occupy a less dignified position as a great The said North American Commercial Company, in consideration of the Government than that of a strolling fiddler? We ought to play rights secured to it under this lease above stated, on its part covenants and agrees to do the things following, that is to say: either for money or for honor. Surely there is no more money in To pay to the Tre:tsurer of the United States each year during the said it. These men who promised to pay us enormous sums of money term of twenty years, as annual rental, the sum of $60,000, and in addition annually are like the receiver of a suspended bank out in my thereto agrees to pay the revenue tax or duty of $2laid upon each fur-seal skin taken and shipped. by it from said islands of St. George and St. Paul, and country, who had the reputation of being a perfect success as a also to pay to said Treasurer the further sum of $7.1)2t apiece for each and receiver, but a total failure as a disburser. What hope is there to every fur-seal skin taken and shipped from said islands. and also to pay the restore the seal herd? None. It is just as dim and-distant and sum of 50 cents per gallon for each gallon of oil sold by it made from seals that may be taken on said islands during the said period of twenty years, visionary as the hope of restoring the wolf herds on the prairies of and to secure the prompt payment of the $60,000 rental above referred to, the Illinoiq, and more so. said company agrees to deposit with the Secretary of the Treasury bonds of Wolf herds have been cultivated for the bounties on their scalps the United States to the amount of $50,000, face value, to be held as a guar­ anty for the annual payment of said $60,000 rental, the interest thereon and preserved and encouraged and restored; but seal herds never. when due to be collected and paid to the North American Commercial Com- And think of the humiliation and djsgrace of the thing. There we 220 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEJ\IBER 16, went over to Paris and surrendered our rights in the face of the Clerlcs. world. And what did that cost us? A quarter of a million for h0::b~J'¥-~~~~h: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Sf:~:~ expenses, and nobody knows how much in damages. Let me read Francis S. Jones .... ------...... ______...... 1,312. 68 you a few items showing what it cost us to make that surrendm=, William H. Lewis ______...... 1,82!.50 the surrender being conducted by some of the same men who are John W. Hulse ______------· 1, 955.75 now at the head of these negotiations. fi. ~~~!)~~~::::::-.::::·.::::::·.:::::::::::::::::·:.:::::: i:~:~ Mr. John W. Foster, who was our agent at the Paris Tribunal, --- $10,755.49 is the same man who is now the so-called expert seal commissioner Miscellaneous. Clerical services ...... _____ ..... _____ ------8, 967. G5 representing us-having n. roving commission-with authority to Traveling expenses, hotel bills, affidavits, etc .. ______6,209.07 incur unlimited expenses, ~oing last summer to Japan and Russia, Printing .... ______...... ------1~,375. 53 after being refused a hearmg, first by Pauncefote i~ Washington, Ocean transportation .... ------~------1, 594. 00 and later by Salisbury in London. This man, who is making a 2 nice fat living out of •: experting" for us, may have drawn this bill §~~~~~~~~~~-~~~~~~~======--======·m: ~t in the State Department or the Treasury Department. He is an ~~~l:ft~~~ exiJ~eSffige:::::·_:: ::·:.:: ::·.:::: ::::::·.::::: ::::: f£t ~g Hotel Continent al, Paris .... ------...... 8, 764.72 expert at surrendering; that is what he is. He got 15,000 for go­ 219 00 ing to Paris on a junketing expedition .to surrender our rights. i1i~~!a~!~~~~~iuC1iDg-

Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. I am informed that that corpora­ Sea tribunal as the "expert" for the case of the United States. and his ripe knowledge and mature judgment is gravely quoted at length all through the tion owes the· Government about one million and a quarter of proceedings by old John W. Foster, who managed this scandalous affair for dollars-- us. Associated with Brown in this advance movement of "experts" in 1891 Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. More than that. was one W. H. Williams, a revenue agent of the Treasury D epartment, who also knew nothing of a fur seal until he landed. He was a lar~e, fleshy man; Mr. SI.l\iPSON of Kansas. And has refused to pay it. sprained his leg as soon as he got ashore, and then listened m the office to Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. Yes, and has refused to pay it. field r eports for all that he knew or knows to-day of the seals. This valuable Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. Is it not also understood that this adviser went over to Pads with Brown as an" expert" also, and he, too, is freely quoted by our counsel. · Government has been several times in danger of being involved These two men were the only "experts " taken over to Paris by the able in a war with a foreign country to protect this corporation that John W. Foster, and they enabled Foster to appear quite as well informed as has a complete monopoly of killing seals in the Bering Sea? themselves. The result. however, was unfortunate for the American case. Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. Yes, sir. Then, following the selection of "Experts" Brown and Williams, came the appointment of Merriam, a clerk in the .Agricultural Department, and Men­ Mr. SIMPSON of Kansas. And what we are asked now to do denhall, Superintendent of the United Sta t es Coast Survey, as commissioners is to protect this monopoly that will not even pay the Govern­ to meet a bra be involved ultimately. The Government is the abso· able goods on Canadian soil in lieu of those undutiable goods? I lute .sovereign owner of every seal on the Pribilof Islands. We have put that question to Treasury officials over and over again, receive for every seal skin lawfully taken on the islands by the and every time the answer has been, "The1·e is no one who knows lessees of the Government, under the present terms of the lease, and no one can know." If you go to the necessary expense so that 12.62t. That is, they pay $7.62t bonus per seal skin for the ex· the Government may be entirely safe, the traffic is no longer de- elusive privilege of taking them, and $2 additional of internal sirable. If there is an inspection at the outgoing frontier and revenue on every skin. then at the incoming, and during the time it is on foreign soil, · Then there is the $60,000 of rent which we 1·eceive if the com· having the eye of an inspector of the Department over it, these pany gets the full catch. In that case they have to pay that lump expenses to be borne by the beneficiary railroad, this traffic is un- sum as rent. At present this is held up by a lawsuit because the desirable; and something of that kind, in my judgment, is abso- lessees,nothavingbeenallowed totakeasmanysealsasthecontract lutely essential in order to protect the revenues. contemplated, have claimed that while they should pay the bonus Why, the Treasury officials in this Administration and in the per head, they ought not to becompelled topaysogreatalump sum last one have said to me that they do notknowof anyinfractionof as rent when the catch allowed was so small. To illustrate, in the revenue laws. No; they can not know it. It is utterly im- 1892 they were permitted to take only some 7,500 seals, instead of possible that they should know it; and there is no endeavor to try a hundred thousand, which they said the lease had contemplated. to tind out. The car, you remember, is received by the raili·oad This seal herd has been a source of large revenue to the Govern· company, not by a customs officer. It is delivered to the consignee ment. It was and still is a very valuable property. We received by the railroad company, not by a customs-house officer. between 1870 and 1890, indirect payment from the lessee company Now, I think, Mr. Speaker, that if my friend is sincere, as I that formerly had the lease of the islands, $6 ,200,000; and then in know he is-his purposes are all straightforward-now that I have duties from the importation of skins $5,000,000 more. All of that XXXI-15 226 OONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DEOEMBER 16,

went into the Treasury of the United States. This $11 ,000,000 assented, to an arrangement to stop this thing. Is not that a and more was received before pelagic sealing began to diminish more sensible, humane, and reasonable plan? the herd so much; and it is with the view of stopping the open-sea The interest in favor of the continuance of the pelagic sealing destruction of the seals that the pending negotiation is carried on. is much less than it used to be; the profit is much less. In our The cost of the policing of Bering Sea has been greatly exag­ negotiations we have been met constantly with the very reasona­ gerated. The cruisers and cutters have cost in the series of years ble remark on the part of the British negotiator: "Are you sincere near a million and a half dollars; but all of them, with their when by your lawR it is lawful and proper to do the thing which crews, their consumption of coal, and expense. of wages, would you ask us not to do and which you call unneighborly, barbarous, have been paid if there had not been a seal in existence, for we and contrary to the interest of mankind?" In that position of would have maintained them somewhere. affairs Congress is asked by the two Departments to take thiH mat­ The number of seals that are in existence now appears not to be ter up. generally known, at least not accurately, judging from some of Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota. The gentleman speaks as if the statements that have been made here. There has been a great the death of the pup is caused altogether or almost entirely by the diminution in the number, but it is by no means contemptible starvation of the mother. even now. I have here the last word upon this subject, in the l\Ir. BITT. No, sir; notatall. Thereportwhich we have sepa­ nature of an authoritative estimate for 1896. From this it ap­ rates

1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOU.SE. 227 why do yon not prevent your own citizens from doing the wrong are not analogous. There is a negotiation in both cases. I do of which you complain?" not think the gentleman asked the question for an answer. Mr. GAINES. How long has the proposition been pending? [Laughter.] Mr. HITT. What is the gentleman's question? Mr. LENTZ. I understood the gentleman to say that we had Mr. GAINES. How long have the present propositions been this provision in a former law. At that time did it encourage any pending? of these British subjects to respect the law? Mr. HITT. The contention has taken various forms through Mr. HITT. Oh, yes; they obeyed it, at least in degree. They years past. 1\Ir. Bayard had it before him, and it was thought to had to, for our cruisers were after them. That was what brought be an-anged. It went to the Tribunal of Arbitration afterwards, on the contention, which was referred to arbitration. They partly and they discussed it under another form, as to jurisdiction and obeyed the law and partly resisted. Our cruisers captured them, the rules necessary, etc., to be adopted to preserve the seals. But the case came up from the courts, came into diplomatic discus­ the gentleman, I am sure, does not want me to go into that his­ sion, and finally went to arbitration before the Paris Tribunal. tory. It is well known. Its decision was against us on our jurisdiction over the high seas; The present question is in such form that some good may result but they framed rules to prevent pelagic sealing, which proved a from it, because the negotiators on both sides are to be presumed failure. That is the occasion of the whole controversy now. to be reasonable men, satisfied with a reasonable condition of Mr. LENTZ. Did the Canadians, whoarenow, as I understand a:ffaii·s. it, killing the same seal herd, retire at that time from the sea? A MEMBER, You say that Russia and Japan have consent.ed? Mr. HITT. No further than they were forced to. The only Mr. HITT. Russia and Japan have consented, and have signi- thing that can compel a Canadian to retire is the mandate of the fied their assent. Government to which he owes obedience, the authority of British Mr. CANNON. Will my friend allow me a moment? law, or an agreement between nations, Great Britain included, Mr. HITT. Certainly. which is the same thing, or, lastly, a cessation of interest or profits, Mr. CANNON. I have been out most of the time during the when he will stop because it does not pay. As soon as interest or discussion of this question, and desire, therefore, to understand the profit ceases, of course all men will cease. bill, as it is pending for passage at this time. If the bill passes, Mr. GREENE. May I ask the gentleman a question? as I understand it, the United States citizen can not enter into the Mr. HITT. Certainly. business of pelagic sealing in the Bering Sea; and, also, I under­ Mr. GREENE. I understood you to say that the Government stand the gentleman to say that Russia and Japan have already of Great Britain did not ask us to pass this law, but that they retired from the business. Am I correct? thought pelagic sealing was right. Am I correct in that? Mr. HITT. They have expr~ssed a desire to make a convention Mr. HITT. That is their contention. to stop the business of pelagic sealing. Mr. GREENE. Now, if we pass this law and shut off Ameri­ Mr. CANNON. Further, then, Great Britain does not propose cans, have we the slightest hope that they will stop their subjects to enter into any such agreement, as I understand it; but she says, from pelagic sealing if they believe it is right? "We will not make any legislation upon the subject so far as we Mr. IDTT. This is not a question of conscience or moral right are concerned, but will requii·e you to show that you are in earn­ and wrong in the sense in which the gentleman refers to it. They est in what you say, and to suggest that we exhibit our fidelity in contend that it is their right by international law under the de­ the premises by legislation upon the subject, and say, • If you do cision of the Paris Tribunal. We have tried to stigmatize it as not legislate, we will say that you are not in earnest in your pro­ barbarous, and they answer our allegation that it is unneighborly posed a

Mr. HITT. That it is their right under international law. stated by the gentleman from North Dakota that this question had :Mr. GREENE. They have contended that this pelagic sealing been linked politically, by Great Britain or Canada, with the tariff, is a right, and still you insist that if we pass this bill it will enable and that the Canadian deputation had tried to use it in order to us to arrive at an agTeement. What hope or assurance have you enable them to prescribe our tariff. that we can ever make any agreement with the Canadian Govern­ On the contrary, when they were hero eager to get the admis­ ment to stop pelagic sealing if we do this? sion of their products into our country by a special arrangement Mr. HITT. That question involves a great deal. I have the under our tariff provisions or by treaty they did not bring up pe­ language of the agreement here, which shows the concession Great lagic sealing, far from it; but our Government did, and that most Britain has made. It was signed recently by the delegates of effectively, saying: ''Gentlemen, after you will consent to first stop Great Britain and the United States. I will read one st.:1.tement pelagic sealing, we will then enter upon the discussion you so much now agreed to which has not before been admitted, and is an im­ desire to open in regard to reciprocity and the admission of your portant pa1·t in our contention that all legislators and nations products and the other pending questions between the countries; ought to stop pelagic sealing: but until you consent to stop pelagic sealing, we will defer the Pelagic sealing involves the killing of males and females alike, without question." · di crimination, and in proportion as the two sexes coexist in the sea. The Then they realized that there might be some disadvantages to reduction of males effected on the islands causes an enhanced proportion of Canadians from pelagic sealing as well as the advantages to the females to be found in the pelagic catch; hence this proportion, if it varies from no other cause, varies at least with the catch upon the islands. In 1895 Province of British Columbia. Mr. A. B. Alexander, on behalf of the Government of the United States, Mr. SWANSON. I should like to ask the gentleman a ques­ found 62.3 per cent of females in the catch of the Dora Sicwerd in Bering Sea, tion for information. and in 1896 Mr. .Andrew Halkett, on behalf of the Canadian Government, fonnd 84.2 per cent in the catch of the same schooner in the same sea. :Mr. HITT. Certainly. The polygamous habits of the animal, coupled with an equal birth rate of Mr. SWANSON. Is it a fact that the Canadians can not do any the two sexes, permits a large number of males to be removed with im­ sealing at all except on the ocean? They have no islands or rook­ punity from the herd, while, as with other animals, any similar abstraction of fema.les checks or lessens the herd s increase, or when carried ful·ther brings eries? about a:a actual diminution of the herd. .Mr. HITT. No seal islands at alL While, from a consideration of the birth rato or from an inspection of the Mr. SWANSON. If we were notto permitthem tohavepelagic visible effects, it is manifest that the take of females in recent years has been so far in excess of the natural increment as to lead to a reductiOn of the herd sealing, really it amounts to a prohibition of sealing at all, does it in the degree related above, yet the ratio of the pelagic catch of one year to not? that of the following has fallen off more rapidly than the ratio of the breed­ Mr. HITT. If we succeed in getting a convention preventing ing herd of one year to the breeding herd of the next. pelagic sealing, they will not be able to catch seals anywhere. Now, there is a part of the agreed statement of fundamental 1\Ir. SWANSON. Nowhere. 'Phis is the question I wanted to facts. That is admitting much they have never before conceded. ask : If the effect of this will not be to. prohibit us from sealing, They admit that the killing of female seals was injudicious; that and does the gentleman think that they will consent to it unless it was an unwise proceeding. we give them concession greater than we get? Mr. GREENE. But they do not agree to quit. Mr. HITT. This does not permit anybody to-do anything. It Mr. HITT. But the point I am getting at is this: That they simply prohibits pelagic sealing by all owing obedience to our laws. have at last admitted facts which are the foundation of an agree­ :Mr. SWANSON. I will ask this question: This prohibits our ment, to a reasonable mind. Able men are more likely to come to citizens from sealing, but permits the Canadians to continue seal­ an aiTangement to stop the useless~ mischievous destruction of ing? female seals at sea when they assent to such propositions in the Mr. HITT. No; it does not permit, it simply provides that all beginning of the negotiation. who owe allegiance to our laws shall cease peL.

The question was t-aken, and there were-yeas 148, nays 78 ; as Mr. SHELDEN with Mr. WILSON. follows: Mr. SHANNON with Mr. ROBB. YEAS-148. Mr. POWERS with Mr. BLAND. Adams, Davis, Kirkpatrick, Pierce, Tenn. Mr. OVERSTREET with Mr. TAYLOR of Alabama.. Adamson, Dingley, Kleberg, Plowman, Mr. MUDD with Mr. DE ARMOND. Alexander, Dinsmore, Kulp, Pugh, Allen, Dovener, Lacey, ~ves, Mr. YOUNG of Pennsylvania with Mr. BENTON, Arnold, Elliott, Lamb, Rhea, Ky. Mr. MARSH with Mr. YOUNG of Vu·ginia. Bailey, Epe.s, Landis, Richardson, Mr. GROW with Mr. UNDERWOOD. Baker, lll. Faris, Lanham, Robinson, Ind. Ball, Fleming, Lewis, Ga. Royse. Mr. FowLER of New Jersey with Mr. JoNEs of Virginia. Barney, Fletcher, L ittle, Sherman, Mr. CURTIS of Kansas with Mr. BROUSSATID. Barrows, Foss, Livingston, Showalter, Mr. CORLISS with Mr. BE~ER of Pennsylvania. Bartlett, Fox, Love, Shuford, Beach, Gaines, Lybrand, Simpkins, Mass. Mr. CoDDING with Mr. ERME~TROUT . Belknap, Gibson, McAleer, Sims, Mr. CLARK of Iowa with Mr. HAY. Benton, Gillet, N. Y. McCall. Smith, ill. Mr. BURLEIGH with Mr. MADDOX. Bcrrl, Gillett, Mass. McClellan, Smith. S. W. Bingnam, Griffin, McCulloch, Snover, Mr. BROMWELL with Mr. GRIGGS. Bishop, Grout, McDonald, Southard, Mr. BENNETT with :Mr. SAYERS. Boutell, ill. Hamilton, Mcintire, :::inarkm.an, lr'Ir. BABCOCK with .Mr. FITZGERALD. Brantley, Handy, McMillin, Stallings, Brewer, Heatwole, McRae, Steele, 1\Ir. HENDERSON with Mr. BANKHEAD, Broderick, Henry, Conn. Mahon, Stevens, Minn. Mr. HE:r.mNWA.Y with Mr. RoBERTSON of Louisiana. Brosius, Henry, Ind. Mann, Stewart, N . J. Mr. LOVERING with Mr. MARsHALL. Brown. Henry, Miss. Meyer, La. Stone, W. A. Brownlow, Hepburn, Miller, Strowd, N.C. Mr. BELFORD with Mr. LEWIS of Washington. Brumm, Hicks, Mills, Sullivan, Mr. MERCER with Mr. SETTLE. Brundidge, Hill, Mitchell, '.rawney, Mr. CHARLES W. STONE. Mr. Speaker, I voted, but as 1 Burke, Hitt Moon, Terry, notice that I am paired, I withdraw my vote. Burton, Hooker Newlands, Updegraff, Chickering, Howard, Ga. Ogden, Vmcent, The result of the vote was then announced as above recorded. Clark, Mo. Hull, Otey, Wanger, On motion of Mr. HITT, a motjon to reconsider the vote by Clayton, Hunter, Otje:n, Warner, which the bill was pa-ssed was laid on the table. Cousins, Jett, Packer, Pa. Weaver, Cowherd, Johnson, Ind. Parker, N.J. Weymouth, ORDER OF BUSINESS. Cranford, Jones, Wash. Payne, Wheeler, Ky. Crumn, Joy, Pearce, Mo. Williams, Miss. Mr. BINGHAlYI. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House resolve Dalzell, Kelley, P earson, Young,Pa. itself into Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union for Davidson, Wis. Kerr, Perkins, Zenor. further consideration of the legislative, executive, and judicial NAYS-78. appropriation bill. Baird, Dolliver, Lester, Robbins, The motion was agreed to. Barber, Dorr, Linney, Sauerhering, Barham, Driggs, Lloyd, Simpson., Kans. The H ouse accordingly resolved itself into Committee of the Bodine, Ellis, Loud, Slayden, Whole, Mr. HOPKINS in the chair. Brucker, Fischer, Loudenslager, Smith, Ky, LEGISLATIVE, EXECUTIVE, A.ND JUDICIAL APPROPRIATION BILL, Butler, Fowler, N. C. Low, Southwick, Campbell, Greene, McClea.rr. Spalding, The CHAIRMAN. The House is in Committee of the Whole Capron, Griffith, McCornnck, Stark, for the further consideration of the ·legislative, executive, and Clardy, Hager, McDowell, Stephens, Tox. Cochran, Mo. Hawley, McEwan, Strait, juilicial appropriation bill. Cochrane, N.Y. Henry, Tex. Maguire, Swanson, Mr. BINGHAM. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Delaware Connolly, Hilborn, Maxwell, Talbert, [Mr. HANDY] has appealed to me to ask consent of the House to Cooney, Hopkins, Meekison Tate, Cooper, Tex. Howe. Miers, Ind. Ton~ue, recur to the paragraph to which he offered an amendment yester­ Cox, Howell, Minor, Vandiver. day, which was ruled out of order by the Chair, an amendment in Crumpacker, Johnson, N.Dak. Moody, Walker, V a. relation to the opening of the Library at hours other than those Danford, Kitchin. Northway, Ward, Davenport, Knowles, :Norton, 6hio White, N.C. which now prevail. De Graffenreid, Knox, Norton, S.C. The point of order wa.s made against the amendment that it was De Vries, Lentz, Peters, contrary to existing law, and the point was sustained. The gen­ ANSWERED PRESENT-1. tleman from Delaware claims that the ruling was based upon ref­ Latimer. erence to a statute which is not now in operation, and upon that NOT VOTING-liJ(). he desires to be heard. I have no objection, and I will yield to the Ach~:~son, Corliss, Ketcham, Shafroth, gentleman after making a brief statement. Babcock, Cm::11nings, King. Shannon, The ruHng of the Chair was based on the old statute providing Baker, Md. Curtis, Iowa Latimer, Shattuc, that the Joint Committee on the Library should determine the Bankhead, Curtis, Kans. Lawrence, Shelden, Barlow. Davey, Lewis, Wash. Skinner, rules and regulations covering the Library. The law under which Barrett. Davison, Ky. Littauer, Smith, Wm. Alden the Library is now operated, which was passed at the close of the Bartholdt, Dayton, Lorimer, Sperry, last Congress, gives to the Librarian of Congress the authority Belden, De Armond, Lovering, Sprague, Belford, Dockery, Maddox, Stewart, Wis. to make rules and regulations. In fact, however, the rules and Bell, Eddy, Mahany, Stoke.s, regulations that now control the administration of the Library Benner, Pa. Ermentrout, Marsh, Stone,C. W . are the ru1es made by the joint committee, and the point that Bennett, Evans, :Marshall, Strode, Nebr. the gentleman's amendment is contrary to existing law would, Bland, Fenton, Martin, Sturtevant, Booze, Fitzgerald, 1¥!el'Cer, Sulloway, therefore, as I understand, still hold good, because the amend­ Botkin, Fitzpatrick, Mesick, Sulzer. ment would change the existing law, which allows the Librarian Boutelle, Me. Foote, Morris, Sutherland, make rules and regulations. With t..llls statement, I am per­ Bradley, Fowler, N.J. Mudd, Tayler, Ohio to Brenner, Ohio Gardner, Odell, Taylor, Ala. fectly willing that we should recur to the paragraph to give the Brewster, Graff, Olmsted, Todd, gentleman from Delaware an opportunity to present his view. Bromwell, Griggs, Osborne, Underwood, Mr. RICHARDSON. It is understood, then, that we recur to Broussard, Grosvenor, Overstreet, Van Voorhis, Bull, Grow, Pitney, Vehslage, this provision of the bill in order that it may be acted upon anew. Burleigh, Gunn, Powers, Wadsworth, Mr. BINGHAM. I ask consent that it be recurred to, at the Cannon, Harmer, Prince, Walker, Mass. request of the gentleman from Delaware. Carmack, Hartman, Quigg. Wheeler, Ala. Castle, Hay, lt."'.y, N.Y. White, ill. Mr. RICHARDSON. I hope there will be no objection to recur­ Catchings, Hemenway, Ridgely, Wilber, ring to it, but I think the Chair should state the fact that we recur Clark, Iowa Henderson, Ri.xey, Williams, Pa. to it by unanimous consent. Clarke, N. H. Hinrichsen, Robb, Wilson, Codding, Howard, Ala. Robertson, La. Yost, The CHAIRMAN. The Chair stated that without objection the Colson, Hurley, Russell, Young, Va. request would be regarded as granted, and no objection has been Connell, Jenkins, Sayers, made. So that the question is now open for the gentleman from Cooper, Wis. Jones, Va. Settle, Delaware to present his views. So the bill was passed. Mr. RICHARDSON. That is satisfactory. The following pairs were announced: Mr. HANDY. Mr. Chairman, the amendment which I offered Until further notice: yesterday was as follows: · Mr. WM. ALDEN SMITH with Mr. SULZER, For additional expense involved in keeping the Library open daily from 9 Mr. PITNEY with Mr. DOCKERY, a. m. to 10 p . m., $15,000. For tills day: The gentleman n·om Pennsylvania made the point of order that Mr. CooPER of Wisconsin with Mr. HL'ffiiCHSE~ . my amendment was inconsistent with existing law; and in sup­ Mr. WILBER with Mr. WHEELER of Alabama. port of that point of order he quoted section 85, chapter 6, of the Mr. CHARLES W. STO~E with Mr. VEHSLAGE. Revised Statutes. The section which he quoted was part of an Mr. STEWART of Wisconsin with Mr, RrXEY, act of Congress passed in 1802 at the time of the establishment of 230 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. D ECE!\IBER 16, the Library. That was the law until February 20 of this year. I Mr. McRAE. Why not simply increase the sum appropriated, have not the least doubt that the gentleman, in quoting the statute, leaving out all the other phraseology? Such an amendment will fully believed that it was the l~w at. the present time; I -~d not certainly be in order. doubt it; and the Chair made his rulmg upon that supposition. I Mr. HANDY. That was the sole purpose of it. The phrase­ find, however, as the gentleman from _Pennsylvania ?-as stated, ology is merely intended to make clear the motive of the amend­ that the present law governing the case Is as follows, bemg a clause ment making the increased appropriation. in the last appropriation bill of the same character as the one now Mr. 1\IcRAE. You are satisfied that he wants to make the under consideration: regu1ation. Now, all he wants to enable him to do that is the For Librarian of Congress, to be a.ppo!nted by the Pr ~side~t. by and with money. the advice and consent of the Senate, $5,000; and the L1branan shall make Mr. HANDY. I have no means of satisfying myself of the Li­ rules and regulations for the government of the Library of Congress. brarian's desire except by the report which is printed in the RECORD The closing paragraph of that act provides that ''all laws or of thin morning. parts of laws incons1stent with this act are repealed." Mr. McRAE. It seems to me that by a slight change in the Therefore the authority of the Joint Committee of Congress on amendment you could eliminate all doubt of the parliamentary the Library to make rules and regulations has been abrogated, status of the matter. and the authority is conferred upon the Librarian in a ma;ndatory Mr. HANDY. I do not know whether the gentleman from clause providing that he "shall make rules and regulations for Pennsylvania would be willing to allow me now to modify the the government of the Library of Congress." proposition. The CHAIRMAN. That is the existing law now? Mr. McRAE. But you can do that without consent. Mr. HANDY. That is the existing law; so that it is entirely 1tir. BRUCKER. Let me ask the gentleman if the limitation within the power, and, indee~, it is the dutJ:' of the L~brarian to of time would not be construed as· a limitation upon his right to revise the rules and regulations under which the L1brary was r e.!rulate the establishment and fix rules for its government? placed in the past by the joint committee of Congress. As a Mr. HANDY. I do not think that. The $15,000 is given to the matter of fact the Librarian has not yet exercised that power. Librarian to use for the purpose of keeping the Library open for He has been framing and drafting his rules and regulations. a longer period of hours. If he does not desire to use it in that There are a number of changes and improvements which he de­ manner, the money is as if it wore not appropriated and will not sires to make in the management of the Library and which he be used. has set forth in his report to Congress. He waits to see whether l\1r. BRUCKER. If that is the construction you place on it we will give him the mone~ to carry ou~ thos~ rules and regula­ why not eliminate that provision of the amendment? tions which the law authonzes and requires him to make. Mr. HANDY. I would be glad to do so, but I think it is in I come here now with an amendment strictly in accordance such shape that I may not be permitted at this time to modify the with the provisions of the law-not requiring him to make any amendment. change and not dictating to him what changes he shall make, htl:t Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. Just ·change the amendment giving him the money to make such changes as under the provi­ to leave the Library open additional hours. sions of law he may desire to make. He has expressed that de­ Mr. HANDY. Then how would this do? sire in an official report to Congress. It follows that my amend- For additional expense for keeping the Library open as much longer as ment is not inconsistent with any law whatsoever. . the Librarian may desire. The ru1e upon which the gentleman from Pennsylvama bases I should be glad to make it in that way, or put it in this form: his point of order provides that- For k~eping~the Library open as much longer as the Librarian of Congress No appropriation shall be reported in any general appropriation bill or may decide, ila,OOO. be in order as an amendment thereto for any expenditure not previously 1\ir. RICHARDSON. I think the gentleman would have the authorized by law unless in continuation of appropriations for such public right to modify the amendment anyhow. It occurs to me that works and objects as are already in progress. the modification would be entirely in order. This is an appropriation for an '' ?bj~ct ~ready in progre~s ." Mr. BINGHAM. I will state, Mr. Chairman, that the print of The object of this proposed a.ppropnatwn IS not to do anythmg the report of the Librarian of Congress has not been given out as ~~ . yet or published for the use of Congress. I asked him for a rough Mr. BINGHAM. The gentleman will allow me to correct hun. copy of the report, and it vy-a-s sent to me in prin~ . We h_ave The language of the rule is not "object," but "public works." applied to the Librarian of Congress by telephone for mformat10n, Mr. HANDY. I am reading from the Manual, and the language and I hope to have it here before the discussion ends. is "unless in continuation of appropriations for such public The rules made by the joint committee are the rules·which he w~rks and objects as are already in progress." That is the exact reports now as being in operation in that establishment. He has, languaO'e, This is a public object. In one sense it is a great pub­ so far as he is concerned, adopted the report of the committee and lic wo:'k. At the same time it is certainly an "object." My made notorious the rules framed by the joint committee. amendment does not provide for any object or purpose different Now, it is within his power to make a change in the rules, from that already provided for. according to the act for the organization of the ~ew Library and The amendment proposes to make an appropriation for a most for the control of it. As far as he has acted, he has promulgated desirable change, which the Librarian wishes to make under the the old rules. authority of law. Why should we stop at the paltry expense of Now comes a suggestion or a recommendation on his part that $15 000? Why should we fail to give him the means to carry on he would ask Congress to report a larger appropriation in order thi~ work properly? I can not see that the amendment is at all to continue the hours from 4 p. m. until 10 p. m., and in connec­ obnoxious to the existing law. tion with that he submits that which will be the increased expendi­ There is a difference between the law that was quoted yesterday ture, namely, 815,000. That pertains, however, only to his work and the present law in this: The law that gave the Joint Commit­ in the Library. Mr. Greene, the superintendent of the building, tee of Congress on the Library the power to. make rules and r~gu­ having full custodianship and full control of the operating ma­ lations was the law under which that committee had taken actiOn. chinery, the illumination of the building, and so on, says that if On the assumption tha~ tha_t law'Yas still in operation the ge~tle­ the hours are extended he will ask an appropriation of $12,000 man from Pennsylvama might w1th great force urge that, smce additional. In other words, the opening of the Library for the action had been taken under that law and rules and regulations increased hours signifies the increase of force for both the Supe~­ had been made, they had the force and effect of law. · B~t th~s intendent and the Librarian, and the sum total of $30,000 addi- new law requiring the Librarian to make rules and regulations IS tional expenses. . a law under which he has not yet acted. He has expressed the Your committee felt that in the condition of the Library as it purpose to make sue~ rl?.les ~nd r~gula~ions, but has n~t yet done is to-day, with nothing but a card catalogue (for there is no cata­ so. So this appropriation IS stnctly m. accordance with the ex­ locrue that a student can consult), with the same rules governing isting law. It proposes to enable a pu"~?hc o~cer to carry out the as""to the limitation of the time, etc.. that it was injudicious at duties imposed upon him by law. It g~ves h1m money to carry on this time to incorporate such a provision as that now p~opose~, his work. especially in view of the fact that under present rn~es, If addi­ Mr McRAE. Does the amendment of the gentleman provide tional work is required of subordinates, he can order It. for a~ything except an increase in the all?ount of the app:ropriatio~? Different suggestions-suggestions to change the hours-were Mr. HANDY. It provides for nothmg excep~ an mcrea~e m before the committee. The proposition was made yesterday, and the amount of money appropriated. It does not g1ve to the Libra­ it was ruled on by the Chairman. That power is to a certain rian any direction; it does not attempt to say to him" You shall extent already in the hands of the Librarian. The reading.of the or you shall not do a certain thing." It simply provides-- law discloses the fact that the last act gave that power to h1m. For additional expense involved in keeping the Library open daily from The Librarian informs us he has made his rules. There they 9 a.m. to 10 p.m., $15,000. are. The very proposition of the gentleman changes the rule, That is all. If the Libraiian fails to make the regul~tion for because he comes to Congress and asks that the rule maybe changed the opening of the Library during the hours named this appro­ that has been promulgated by the Librarian, opening the ~ibrary priation will fall and be of no effect. from 10 until 4, so that it may be open until10 p.m. I claim that 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 231 that is a complete revolution of existing law, because Congress under proper r egulations for their care and safety, and also to determines and takes it from the Librarian. the people of the United States who sojourn here. In connection Mr. HANDY. Will the gentleman permit a question there? with the proposition of the gentleman from Delaware, which is a How and when and in what way did the Librarian promulgate most worthy one, I would repeal, as I have heretofore stated, the the rule? statute authorizing a public library in this city. Now, then, if Mr. BINGHAM. He printed it-published it. you open the Congressional Library at this time- and I sympa­ Mr. CANNON. Whether he has or not, this is legislation. thize with the enthusiasm of the distinguished gentleman from Mr. HANDY. I understand that the Librarian desires that the Delaware-if you do this now, the result will be to leave on the Library shall be open in the evening. statute books the law authorizing a public library. I opposed Mr. BINGHAl\1. Now,Isimplymake the point of order against that law, but Congress has repeatedly-by a close vot e, it is true­ the gentleman's proposition that the conditions have not changed refused to appropriate the money to execute it. at all; that there the rule says that the Librarian shall make the The law is inimical to the generallib1·ary interests of this city. rules governing the Library. He has made the rule. He has sub­ Therefore I ask to join the repeal proposition with that of the mitted in his report a recommendation and an appeal to the judg­ gentleman from Delaware. Call in the miscellaneous books, and ment of the House, that the sentiment may crystallize into a then we will have the library interests in this splendid capital proposition, Perhaps a little later I may be one of the most earn­ city on a proper basis. I am quite sure that a proposition em­ est advocates of the gentleman's proposition, but at this time I bodying this idea will be placed in some bill after the holidays. consider it my duty to make the point of order, because I consider If I did not so believe I would favor the pending proposition. this a bad move to make with reference to the Library at this time. Mr. McRAE. Does not my friend believe that if you had this l\1r. DOCKERY. Mr. Chairman, I desire to be heard for a law and you had opened the Library at night that we would moment on the point of order. The gentleman from Delaware never have had on the statute books the other law that he speaks [Mr. HANDY] submits his amendment and claims it is in order of. The very fact that the Library was not opened made it under clause 2 of Rule XXI. If it is in order at all it must be necessary to build another one>. under that clause. Now, then, it is clear that it is not in order Mr. DOCKERY. I think the gentleman from Arkansas is cor­ under that clause of the rule authorizing an appropriation for a rect. I think if-- ''public work or an object" already in progress, because the propo­ Mr. McRAE. Then why is not the right way to get rid of that sition itself seeks to initiate a " public object," seeks to make a statute to pass this amendment? new departure with respect to the work of the Library. There­ Mr. DOCKERY. The statute remains. An estimated appro­ fore it can not be in order under that clause of the rule. If in priation is submitted, I think, in the District appropriation bill order, it is because of some law authorizing it. The existing law for the conduct of a public library during the ensuing year. gives to the Librarian the power to make regulations. If the Mr. HANDY; The gentleman from Missouri understands that Librarian makes regulations openingthe Library to the public at my amendment does not affect anything but an amount of money. night, as he has the authority to do, that regulation becomes law It does not change law. within the meaning of the rule, and then the amendment of the Mr. DOCKERY. Then it accomplishes nothing if it does not gentleman from Delaware [Mr. HANDY] would be in order; but cba.nge the law. theLibrarian has not made any such regulation, as I understand, Mr. HANDY. Under the law the Librarian has full power to and therefore the amendment is not in order at this time. make these changes. He only lacks the money. Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. May I ask the gentleman from Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. I wish to offer an amendment Missouri a question? to the amendment offered by the gentleman from Delaware. Mr. DOCKERY. Certainly. Mr. BINGHAM. I have raised a point of order, and I call for a Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. As I understand it, before the decision. Librarian can change the rules which now govern the hours of Mr. RICHARDSON. I wish.to be heard on the point of order . keeping the Library open, he must have additional employees and Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. Mr. Chairman, is there not a must incur additional expense, Now. the question which I wish right to perfect the amendment before the House? to ask is this: How can the Librarian change existing rules unless The CHAIRMAN. . What is the point of order that the gentle­ Congress has prior to that time done precisely what this amend­ man raises? ment proposes to do, put at his disposal an appropriation? Mr. BINGHAM. My point of order is that the proposition of Mr. RICHARDSON. That is right. the gentleman changes existing law. Mr. DOCKERY. Right, and yet wrong. The law expressly Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. But that is no point of order gives to the Librarian the right to make regulations, which have to my amendment; certainly not until it is read. all the force of law. That is, he has a right to incur a liability The CHAIRMAN. Is the point of order that which was passed under that provision of the law heretofore adopted. He has a over yesterday evening, or is it upon any new amendment? right to make a regulation which will open this Library at night. Mr. BINGHAM. I only recur to the ruling of the Chair on the If the Librarian makes a regulation of that sort, it has all the force point of order, and the point of order was made yesterday. The of a law enacted by the two Houses and approved by the President. gentleman from Delaware claimed that it was made under a stat­ Therefore I hold that this amendment is not in order; but I want ute not now in existence. I call the attention of the Chair to the to say just a word on the question-- act of last Congress, which indkated how the rules and regula­ Mr. CLARK of Missouri. I should like to ask my colleague a tions of the Library of Congress should be made, and upon that question. . I make the point of order that there is no law authorizing it. The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman yield? The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is ready to rule on the proposi­ Mr. DOCKERY. Certainly. tion as it was presented to the Chair yesterday, and if the remarks Mr. CLARK of Missouri. If you can not get the Library open made to-day were simply to review that ruling, the Chair is ready at night in this way, how can you get it open at night? to rerule. Mr. DOCKERY. By initiatory action on the part of the Li­ Mr. BINGHAM. That is all. brarian. Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. Now, I rise to take issue upon Mr. CLARK of :Missouri. Now, let me ask you if you are not that proposition, if I am in order. I can not see bow we could in this fix: The Librarian can not open the Library at night be­ have recurred to the proposition except for the purpose of con­ cause he has not got the money to open it of a njght, and we can sidering the proposition not as to how any one amendment bore not appropriate the money because the Librarian has not made upon it, but as to the amendment offered by the gentleman from the rule. Is not that the situation? Delaware, and any amendment in order under the rules to that Mr. DOCKERY. No, sir; !think not. I think under the power amendment which would become under the rules, if adopted, a given by the statute the Librarian has the right to incur a lia­ substitute for the amendment, taking its place-how it all bore bility, under a regulation. But I wn.nt to say just one word, if upon it. It seems to me when we recurred to it we recurred to it the House will permit me, aside from the point of order. for the purpose of amendment, and there is nothing-- I favor the proposition of the gentleman from Delaware, but Mr. BINGHAM. That was not the understanding of what I desire to do something more, and I am quite certain that it will asked the House. be accomplished on an appropriation bill that will follow this after Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississjppi. vVhat the understanding was the holidays. I want to do what the gentleman from Delaware I do not know. There was nothing expressly said-- does-that is, to open the Library to the people of the United Mr. BINGHAM. Oh, yes; there was. States at night-but I desire to do more. I want to accomplish Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. By you which expressly meant two purposes. I desire to call in the miscellaneous books from the what you now contend. Departments and put them in the new Library building, and then Mr. BINGHAM. l\1y request to the Chair was simply that repeal the law authorizing this city to erect or rent a building for there might be an opportunity for a revision of his ruling upon a public library. We have nearly 700,000 volumes in the Con­ the point of order made by me, in view of the fact that the aU:tho1· gressional Library now, and perhaps 350,000 more in the Depart­ ity upon which the ruling had been based was a statute which had ments. been repealed, and for which another law had been substituted, These volumes should be available to the people of this city, placing elsewhere the authority to make rules and regulations for 232 CONGRESSIONAL ~ECORD-HOUSE. DECEMBER 16,

the Library. That was my understanding of the request of the Mr. BINGHAM. Does the gentleman prefer to present that gentleman from Delaware. The merits of the proposition had now, or wait until we get through with the rest of the bill? nothing to do with the question. Mr. SMITH of Arizona. I prefer to present it now. Mr. W lLLIAMS of Mississippi. Of course not, and I am not dis­ Mr. BINGHAM. All right. cussing the merits, nor shall I discuss them. I am merely seek­ Mr. SMITH of Arizona. Before submitti..ng the amendment, I ing to amend the amendment offered by the gentleman from Del­ should like to have an explanation from the gentleman in charge aware in such manner as to remove all possible objection to it of the bill as to the reason of the difference which has been made based upon the rule. In my opinion, the amendment which I between the expenses of the legislative assembly of Arizona and hold in my hand, if adopted by the gentleman from Delaware­ those of New :Mexico. and he has a right to adopt it, if it is in order an!l he chooses­ Mr. BINGHAM. I believe that the amount of the difference is will remove all possible parliamentary objection to the considera­ $1,750. tion of his amendment by the committee. Mr. SMITH of Arizona. Yes, sir. But Arizona has as much The CHAIRMAN. The understanding of the Chan· is that the rent to pay as New Mexico. request made was simply to recur to this part of the bill for the Mr. BINGHAM. I will read to the gentleman something with purpose of reviewing the ruling of the Chair made yesterday on which he is no doubt familiar, although it may have escaped his the amendment of the gentleman from Delaware, as that gentle­ attention for the moment. I read from a letter of the Secretary man desired to present further argument upon the point. If it is of the Treasury, dated May 18 1892, addressed to the then chair· now desired to open the subject further, if the gentleman from man of the Committee on Appropriations: Mississippi [.Mr. WILLIAMS] or the gentleman in charge of the bill SIR: I have the honor to transmit herewith, for the consideration of the [Mr. Brr GRAM] asks that, the Chair will leave it to the commit­ House Committee on Appropriations, copies of the letter of the First Comp­ tee to determine whether the paragraph shall be opened for con­ troller of the 17th instant and its inclosures, looking to an appropriation of sideration or whether the consideration shall be restricted to the 82,500, to be used to rent a suitable hall and rooms, and to provide furniture for the same, for the use of the T erritorial legislature of New Mexico, the point of order made by the gentleman from Pennsylvania. 'Territorial building where the legislature has of late :l.Ssembled, and its con­ 1\II.r. HANDY. MI'. Chairman, I would very much like to have tents, having bean destroyed by fire. the amendment of the gentleman from Mississippi offered, but my The letter of the Comptroller of· the Treasury Department understanding with the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. BL.~ G­ HAM] was such that if he thinks this is not one of the things we referred to in the letter of the SecTetary of the Treasury is dated may do, I feel that I must defer to his views. l\1ay 17, 189.2, and is as follows: Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. I understand the ruling of the SIR: I have the honor to recommend that you submit to Congress an esti­ Chair to be that after the ()ha.ir has passed upon the point of order mate fm· a further appropriation for ~,500 for l egislative expeme1 of the Territory of New MeXIco for the fiscal year 189.3, so much of this appropria­ it will then be in order for me to move my amendment. tion a may be nece sary to be used to rent a suitable hull and rooms, and The CHAIRMAN. Only by unanimous consent. The commit­ JWOvide furniture for the s:une, for the use of the Territorial legislature of tee has already passed the paragraph, and has recurred to it only New Mexico, the Territorial building where the legislature has of1ate assem­ at the request of the gentleman from Delaware. bbd. and its contents, having been destroyed by fire. Mr. BINGHAM. I ask the Chair for a ruling. That is the reason we propose to appropriate 1,750 more in the The CHAIRMAN. The amendment as offered yesterday is, in one case than in the other. We have followed the estimates. the judgment of the Chair, new legislation in this, that under ex­ Mr. SMITH of Arizona. The only reason, then, is that New isting law the Librarian of Congress has the power to regulate Mexico happened to have her capitol destroyed by a fire after get· the hours when the Library shall bo kept open, and if the amend­ ting an appropriation from the Government for the capitol. Ari· ment of the gentleman from Delaware is adopted it will operate as zona has been all the time paying rent by taxation of the people a restriction upon the discretion which the Librarian of Congress and getting no reimbursement. I protest against the distinction now possesses under existing law. Hence it would be new legis­ that is made. I declare that New Mexico does not get nearly lation and subject to the point of order. The Chair adheres to wh:1t she ought to have for her legislative expenses. I move, his ruling upon that point. The gentleman from Delaware to­ therefore, to amend by striking out, in line 6, page 61, " ~'34,250" day presents the further proposition that it js competent to offer and jnserting "$26,000." This will make the appropriation cor· this amendment t.mder a clause of the second paragraph of Rule respond exactly with that in the case of New :Mexico~ the condi· XXI, which I will read: tions being exactly the same. Our TerritoTy is obliged to pay the 2. No appropriation shall be reported in any general appropriation bill, or same incidental expenses as New Mexico for rent, light, .fuel, ice, be in order as an amendment thereto, for any expenditure not previously etc., yet in the case of Arizona hardly enough is appropriated to authorized by law, unless in continuation of appropriations for such public pay the legislative per diem. works and objects as are ah·eady in progress. Mr. BINGHAM. We have followed :md allowed the amounts That clause of the rule has been construed again and again by named in the estimates, the addition being given to New Mexico the Committee of the Whole, and its language has been held to because of the conditions stated. relate only to public works of a tangible natm·e. The question Mr. SMITH ofArizona. Thereisnodifferenceintheconditions. was considered in the Fifty-fourth Congress on the Agricultural Mr. BINGHAM. The details given in the paragraph appropri­ appropriation bill. The same point that is now made by the ating for legislative expenses of Arizona embrace, as in the case gentleman from Delaware was made then, and it was held that of New Mexico, the item "rent." There is no disposition on the the amendment was not in order. An appeal was taken from the part of Congress to pay more rent than we are now paying. ruling and the Chair was sustained by the committee. '!'he Mr. Sl\HTH of Arizona. Let us see the exact reading of the present occupant of the chair holds that the Librarian is an two appropriations. For Arizona the appropriation for legislative executive officer of the Government, and that this clause of the E-xpenses is " for rent, m essenger, postage, stationery, fuel. lights, . rule does not apply to him. The Chair adheres to his ruling printing, and incidental expenses for secretary's office. " For New made yesterday that the amendment of the gentleman from Dela­ 1\Ierico the appropriation for legislative expenses is "for rent, ware is not in order. light, fuel, ice, stationery, record files, record casings, printing, Mr. WILLIAMS of Mississippi. Now, Mr. Chairman, I ask postage, clerks, messenger and porter, an

W hole House on the state of the Union had had under considera­ Van Vliet, of Brookville, P a.-Committee on Pensions discharged, tion the legislative, executive, and judicial bill, and had come to no and referred to the Comlilittee on Invalid Pensions. resolution thereon. A bill (H. R . 4426) granting a pension to Sarah E. Cotton- Com­ THE BANKRUPTCY BILL. mittee on Pensions discharged, and referred to the Committee on Mr. TERRY. Mr. Speaker, the chairman of the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Judiciary made report to-day on the bankruptcy bill. I ask A bill (H. R . 4479) granting a pension to William Brown­ unanimous consent for the indulgence of the House until two days Committee on Pensions discha1·ged, and refeTred to the Committee after the holidays, that the minority of the committee may have on Invalid Pensions. leave to file their views. , The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gen­ PUBLIC BILLS, RESOLUTIONS, .AN"D MEMORIALS tleman from Arkansas? INTRODUCED. There was no objection. Under clause 3 of Rnle XXII, bills, resolutions, and memorials LEAVE OF ABSENCE. of the following titles were introduced and severally referred as By unanimous consent, leave of absence was granted as follows: follows: To Mr. ToDD, indefinitely, on account of important business. By Mr. BARHAM: A bill (H. R. 5157) for the establishment of To Mr. RoBERTSON of Louisiana, indefinitely, on account of a light-house and fog-signal station at or near Point Gorda-to sickness. the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. And then, on motion of Mr. BINGHAM (at 5 o'clock and 1 minute By :Mr. SOUTHWICK: A bill (H. R . 5158) to restore to the p. m.), the House adjourned. State of New York the flag carried by the One hundred and thir­ teenth New York Volunteer Infantry-to t he Committee on Mili­ EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. tary Affairs. Under clause 2 of Rule XXIV, the following executive commu­ By Mr. F LETCHER: A bill (H. R. 5159) to provide for savings nications were taken from the Speaker's table and referred as deposits in the Post-Office Department-to the Committee on the follows: Post-Office and Post-Roads. A letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, ·transmitting esti­ By Mr. BALL: A bill (H. R. 5160) to suspend and withhold the mates of deficiencies in appropriations required to meet the urgent payment of pensions while pensioners are in the service of the demands of the Government for the service of the current and United States Government in a civil capacity and receive therefor prior fiscal years-to the Committee on Appropriations, and or­ compensation equal to $100 per month-to the Committee on In­ dered to be printed. valid Pensions. A letter from the chairman of the Interstate Commerce Commis­ By Mr. :MAXWELL: A bill (H. R. 5161) to provide for the repair sion, transmitting his eleventh annual report-to the Committee and increase in height of the riprap work on the right bank of the on Interstate and Foreign Commerce, and ordered to be printed. Missouri River at and immediately above South Sioux City, Da­ A letter from the Secretary of War, transmitting copy of a letter kota County, Nebr.-to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. from the secretary of the Chamber of Commerce of the State of By Mr. BAKER of Maryland (by request): A bill (H. R. 5162) New York, accompanied by a copy of a report of the chamber on to establish the department of commerce and industries-to the the subject of· harbor defense, and a copy of the proceedings of Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. the National Defense Association-to the Committee on Military By Mr. DAVENPORT: A bill (H. R. 5163) to amend chapter Affairs, and ordered to be printed. 67, volume 23, of the Statutes at Large of the United States- t o A letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, transmitting ail the Committee on Military Affairs. estimate of deficiency in the appropriation for quarantine service, By Mr. EVANS: A bill (H. R . 5164) to retire certain army offi­ 1898-to the Committee on Appropriations, and ordered to be cers, and for other purposea-to the Committee on Military Af­ printed. airs. A letter from the Secretary of War, transmitting a copy of the By Mr. SULLOWA Y: A bill (H. R . 5165) granting pensions to report of the Board of Ordnance and Fortification for the year inc::ane, idiotic, and helpless children of deceased officers and en­ ended October 31, 1897-to the Committee on Appropriations, and listed men who served in the late war of the rebellion-to the ordel"ed to be printed. Committee on In"'alid Pensions. A letter from the Secretary of the Interior, transmitting a copy By Mr. LYBRAND: A bill (H. R. 5166) to grant a service pan­ of a report of United States Indian Inspector J. George Wright sian to officers and enlisted men who served njnety days or more on the subject of the :Montezuma Valley Canal and its capacity in the Union Army-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. for irrigating land in the Southern Ute Indian Reservation-to By :Mr. SULLIVAN: A bill (H. R . 5167) to limit the cla.ss of the Committee on Indian Affairs, and o1·dered to be printed. persons who shall receive pensions- to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By :r,.rr. BOOZE: A bill (H. R . 5168) steamship Southery to be REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PUBLIC BILLS AND registered in the name of Lonaconing- to the Committee on the RESOLUTIONS. Merchant Marine and Fisheries. Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, bills and resolutions of tbe follow­ By Mr. TAWNEY: A bill (H. R. 5169) to amend paragraph ing titles were severally reported from committees, delivered to No. 2 of chapter 183 of the Revised Statutes of the United States­ the Clerk, and referred to the several Calendars therein named, to the Committee on the Judiciary. as follows: By Mr. STEWART of New Jersey: A bill (H. R. 5170) to estab­ Mr. FISCHER, from the Committee on Indian Affairs, to which lish a national military park and naval reservation along the Pali­ was referred the bill of the House (H. R. 4769) to amend an act sades of the Hudson-to the Committee on Military Affaira. granting to the Gila Valley, Globe and Northern Railway Com­ By 1\fr. BENTON (by request): A bill (H. R. 5171) to repeal pany a right of way through the San Carlos Indian Reservation, ceTtain provisos in an act of Congress entitled ''An act malring in Arizona, 1·eported the same with amendment, accompanied by appropriations for the current and contingent expenses of the a report (No. 63); which said bill and report were referred to the Indian Department and for fulfilling treaty stipulations with Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union. various Indian tribes for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1898, and .Mr. HENDERSON, from the Committee on the Judiciary, to for other purposes," approved June 7, 1897-to the Committee on which was referred the bill of the Senate (S. 1035) to establish a the Judiciary. uniform system of bankruptcy throughout the United States, By Mr. BARRETT: A bill (H. R. 5172) to prevent the desecra­ reported the same with amendment, accompanied by a report tion of the American flag-to the Committee on the Judidary. (No. 65); which said bill and report were referred to the House By Mr. TAWNEY: A bill (H. R. 5174) to increase the efficiency Calendar. of the public service by optional and compulsory refu·ement of superannuated and disabled Government employees, and for the REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PRIVATE BILLS. creation of a fund for the retirement of such employees-to the Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, Mr. HICKS, from the Committee Committee on Reform in the Civil Service. on Patents, to which was referred the bill of the House (H. R. 4847) By Mr. ELLIOTT: A bill (H. R. 5175) for the appointment of for the relief of Jurlson Jones, reported the same with amend­ a commission of experts for the purpose of making investigations ment, accompanied by a report (No. 62); which said bill and re­ relating to the cause and prevention of yellow fever- to the Com· port were referred to the Private Calendar. mittee on Interstate and Fo:reign Commerce. By Mr. BABCOCK: A bill (H. R. 5176) to repeal an act entitled "An act to provide a permanent system of highways in that part CHANGE OF REFERENCE. of the District of Col um. bia lying outside of cities," approved March Under clause 2 of Rule XXII, committees were discharged from 2, 1893, as amended by an act of Congress approved January 21 , the consideration of bills of the following titles; which were there­ 1896, and to provide for the extension of certain streets and ave­ upon referred as follows: nues, and for other purposes- to the Committee on the District of A bill (H. _R; 4675) granting an increase of pension to George Columbia. 234 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-ROUSE. D ECEMBER 16,

B y Mr. MAHANY (by request): A bill (H. R. 5177) for the de­ desertion from the record of William A. Cole-to the Committee velopment and encouragement of ramie, silk, and flax preparation on MHitary Affairs. and manufacture, and their production and profitable home market Also, a bill (H.R. 5191) for the relief of A. Beraing, or A. Barding in the United States, under the supervision of the Secretary of the & Co., of California- to the Committee on Claims. Treasury-to the Committee on Manufactures. Also, a bill (H. R. 5192) granting a pension to Louis M. Ellison­ By Mr. MORRIS: A bill (H. R . 5178) allowing actual settlers to the Committee on Pensions. upon lands within the Mille Lac Indian Reservation, in the State Also, a bill (H. R . 5193) removing the charge of desertion from of Minnesota, to perfect title to lands in said reservation under the the record of W. V. Cook-to the Committee on Military Affairs. general land laws of the United States-to the Committee on In­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5194:) granting a pension to Charles C. Hall-to dian Affairs. the Committee on Pensions. By Mr. KITCHIN: A bill (H. R. 5179) to amend sections 3242 Also, a bill (H. R. 5195) for the relief of George S. Walker, of and 3281 of the Revised Statutes-to the Committee on Ways and California-to the Committee on Claims. Means. Also, a bill (H. R. 5196) granting a pension to Nimrod H. Har­ By Mr. WHEELER of Alabama: A bill (H. R. 5180) to author­ man-to the Committee on Pensions. ize the construction of a power station on the Tennessee River­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5197) for the relief of Dennis Tryon, of Cali­ to the Committee on Rivers and Ha1· bo1·s. fornia-to the Committee on Claims. By Mr. WALKER of Massachusetts: A bill (H. R. 5181) to Also, a bill (H. R. 5198) for the relief of Chester B. Sweet, of provide for the refunding of the national debt, for establishii~; a California-to the Committee on Claims. redemption fund, and a division of issue and redemption in the By Mr. BARNEY: A bill (H. R. 5199) to increase the pension of Treasury of the United States, and to modify existing laws Charles Wooc.ls-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. respecting national banks, and for other purposes-to the Com­ By Mr. BERRY: A bill (H. R. 5200) for the relief of Margaret mittee on Banking and Currency. Ke:unedy- to the Committee on "\Var Claims. By Mr. SMITH of Illinois (by request) : A bill (H. R. 5182) to By Mr. BODINE: A bill (H. R. 5201) for the relief of William permit the naturalization of Americanized Chinese-to the Com­ J. Ford-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on Immigration and Naturalization. Also, a bill (H. R. 5202) for the relief of Richard A. Winscott­ By Mr. CUMMINGS: A bill (B. R. 5183) to amend an act ap­ to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. proved August 1, 1894, entitled "An act relating to the pay and Also, a bill (H. R. 5203) granting a pension to Levi R. Long-to retirement of mates in the United States Navy"-to the Gommit­ the Committee on Invalid Pensions. tee on Naval Affairs. Also, a'bill (H. R. 5204) to pension John Roof-to the Commit­ By Mr. RAY of New York: A bill (H. R . 5184) defining and tee on Invalid Pensions. limiting the cases in which an absolute divorce may be granted, Also, a bill (H. R. 5.205) to remove the charge of desertion against and providing for declaring marriages void in certain cases, in John Loney-to the Committee on Military Affairs. the District of Columbia and the Terntories- to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 5205) to remove the charge of desertion against the Judiciary. . Cobham J. J. Martyr-to the Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. DE VRIES (by request) : A bill (H. R . 5185) for the By Mr. BROWNLOW (by request): A bill (H. R. 5207) granting incorporation of an association for the mutual benefit of its mem­ a pension to William H. Pierre-to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ bers-to the Committee on the District of Columbia. sions. By Mr. SHUFORD: A bill (H. R. 5186) to prohibit discrimina­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5208) to correct the military record of certain t ion in favor of gold in liquidating the Government's coin obliga· enlisted men of the Tenth Tennessee Cavalry-to the Committee tions-to the Committee on Banking and Currency. on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 5187) to prohibit the further issue of bonds, By Mr. BURKE: A bill (H. R. 5209) to grant a pension to Mrs. etc., under the acts of 1875 and 1879-to the Committee on Ways Belle Shumard, widow of Dr. George G. Shumard, late surgeon , and Means. United States Volunteers-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. CATCHINGS: A bill (H. R. 5349) to amend an act By Mr. CALLAHAN: A bill (H. R.5210) granting pension to entitled "An act to provide for the settlement of all outstanding Mrs. Sarah Denneger, widow of David W. Denneger-to the Com­ claims against the District of Columbia, and conferring jurisdic­ mittee on Invalid Pensions. tion on the Court of Claims to hear the same, and for other pur­ By Mr. CHICKERING: A bill (H. R. 5211) for the relief of poses," approved June 16, 1880-to the Committee on Claims. Henry P . Burns-to the Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. PARKER of New Jersey: A bill (H. R . 5350) toincrease By Mr. CLARK of Missouri: A bill (H. R. 5212) granting an the efficiency of the Army of the United States, and to localize the increase of pension to Uriah H. Owings-to the Committee on rec1·uiting of regiments in time of war- to the Committee on Mili­ Invalid Pemions. · t ary Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R . 5213) for the relief of W. D. McLean, alias By Mr. WADSWORTH: A bill (H. R . 5351) to authorize the Donald McLean-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Secretary of the Treasury to issue bonds to maintain a sufficient Also, a bill (H. R. 5214) for the relief of Mrs. Catharine Bedell­ gold reserve and to redeem and retire United States notes, and to the Committee on War Claims. for other purposes- to the Committee on Ways and Means. Also, a bill (H. R. 5215) granting a pension to Edward W . By Mr. WARD: A bill (H. R . 5352) for the erection of a public Nichols-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. building at the city of Yonkers, N. Y.-to the Committee on Pub­ · Also, a bill (H. R . 5216) granting a pension to John McCann­ lic Buildings and Grounds. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By 1\!r. SOUTHWICK: A bill (H. R. 5353) for the erection of a By Mr. COCHRAN of Missouri: A bill (H. R . 5217) removing public building in the city of Cohoes, N. Y.-to the Committee on the charge of desertion from the military record of Edgar B. \"Vil­ Public Buildings and Grounds. • · loughby, deceased-to the Committee on Military Affairs. By 1\Ir. PUGH: A bill (H. R. 5354) to authorize and direct the Also1 a bill (H. R . 5218) removing the charge of desertion from Secretary of War to appoint a commission to ascertain and report the military record of Henry Schreijer-to the Committee on the facts concerning the taking of property for the use of the Military Affairs. Army of the United States and destroyed at Cynthiana, Ky., on By Mr. COONEY: A bill (H. R. 5219) to provide for the reim­ June 11, 1864-to the Committee on War Claims. bursement of naval officers losing property on the United States By Mr. SHUFORD: Joint resolution (H. Res.104) to amend the steamship Yantic-to the Committee on Naval Affairs. Constitution of the United States relating to direct taxes-to the By Mr. COX: A bill (H. R. 5220) for the relief of William Whit­ Committee on the Judiciary. alrer-to the Committee on 1\:tilitary Affairs. By Mr. LATIMER: Joint resolution (H. Res.105) to authorize By Mr. CUMMINGS: A biJl (H. R. 5221) f6r the relief of the the President to appoint as an assistant engineer in the Navy ex­ owner or owners of the schooner Bergen-to the Committee on Naval Cadet T. D. Parker-to the Committee on Naval .Affairs. War Claims. By Mr. LOVE: Resolution (House Res. No. 144) relative tore­ By Mr. CURTIS of Iowa: A bill (H. R. 5222) to restore to the moving the quarantine station from Ship Island, Mississippi, to pension roll the name of Mary M . Williams-to the Committee Chandeleur Island, or to some other remote point-to the Commit- on Invalid Pensions. teeon Interstate and Foreign Commerce. · Also, a bill (H. R. 52-23) to amend the record of Patrick Rey­ nolds-to the Committee on Milita1·y Affairs. By Mr. ELLIOTT: A bill (H. R. 5224) granting a pension to PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS INTRODUCED. John Masson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, private bills and resolutions of the By Mr. HARMER: A bill (H. R. 5225) granting a pension to following titles were introduced and severallyreferred as follows: Frank W . Flammer, of the State of Pennsylvania, late captain and By Mr. ADAMS: A bill (H. R. 5188) for the relief of Mrs. A. C. acting master commanding ship New Era, Mississippi Squadron­ Wagner-to the Committee on Military Affairs. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. BAKER of Maryland: A bill (H. R. 5189) for the relief Also, a bill (H. R . G226) to correct the military record of Charles of James S. Crawford-to the Committee on Claims. G. Augeroth, jr.-t.o the Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. BARHAM: A bill (H. R. 5190) to remove the charge of Also, a bill (H. R. 5227) for the relief of Frank W. Flammer,. a. 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 235 resident of the State of Pennsylvania, late captain and acting mas­ By Mr. TODD: A bill (H. R. 5263) for the relief of William C. ter commanding ship New E1·a, Mississippi Squadron, in 1863-to Hughes-to the Committee on War Claims. the Committee on War Claims. By Mr. WALKER of Virginia: A bill (H. R. 5264) to pay to By Mr. HITT: A bill (H. R. 5228) for the relief of JuliusStahel­ Jacob Yost the sum of $434-to the Committee on Claims. to the Committee on Claims. By Mr. WHEELER of Alabama: A bill (H. R. 5265) to carry By Mr. JETT: A bill (H. R. 5229) granting a pension to Wil­ out the findings of the Court of Claims in the case of the estate Ham Fisher-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. of Samuel B. Herston, deceased-to the Committee on War By Mr. JOHNSON of North Dakota: A bill (H. R. 5230) for the Claims. relief of Isaac W. Busey-to the Committee on Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5266) to carry out the findings of the Court By Mr. LAMB: A bill (H. R. 5231) for the relief of Charles S. of Claims in the case of the estate of Nelson G. Allen, deceased­ Mills-to the Committee on Claima. to the Committee on War Claims. By Mr. LANHAM: A bill (H. R. 5232) granting a pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 5267) to carry out the findings of the Court John J. Osborn-to· the Committee on Invalid Pensions. of Claims in the case of the e8tate of Lemuel Corum, deceased­ By Mr. LINNEY: A bill (H. R. 5233) for the relief of the widow to the Committee on War Claims. of R. D. Hay-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5268) to carry out the findings of the Court By Mr. LIVINGSTON: A bill (H. R. 5234) for the relief of John of Clajms in the case of the estate of Richard L. Kirby, jr., de­ D. Stocker, for extra services rendered the Government during the ceased-to the Committee on War Claims. Cotton States and International Exposition, held in Atlanta, Ga., Also, a bill (H. R . 5269) to refer to the Court of Claims the in 1895, and for other purposes-to the Committee on Claims. claim of Claiborn Evans and others-to the Committee on Yvar By Mr. :McCORMICK: A bill (H. R. 5235) granting a pension to Claims. Jessie L. Knight-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5270) for the relief of Jeff Eason, Madison By Mr. McDOWELL: A bill (H. R. 5236) to remove the charge County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. of desertion against Daniel Schoonover-to the Committee on Mili­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5271) for the relief of Newton L. Crow-to tary Affairs. the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5237) to remove the charge of desertion against Also, a bill (H. R. 5272) for the relief of Mary Fowler, widow Peter C. Lawyer-to the Committee on Military Affairs. of Lorensey Fowler, Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Committee Also, a bill (H. R. 5238) for the relief of A. B. Ackerman-to the on War Claims. Committee on Military .Affairs. . Also, a bill (H. R. 5273) for the relief of James M. Gullatt-to Also, a bill (H. R. 5239) to remove the charge of desertion against the Committee on War Claims. David Edwards-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 5274) for the relief of the estate of James Also, a bill (H. R. 5240) to remove the charge of desertion Campbell, deceased, late of Jackson County, Ala.-to the Com­ against James Addy-to the Committee on Military Affairs. mittee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5241) to remove the charge of desertion from Also, a bill (H. R. 5275) for the relief of James T. Dowdy, of the military record of Peter R. Eddy-to the Committee on Mili­ Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. tary Affairs. Also, a bill (H.R.5276) for the relief ofT. C. Greenhill-to the By Mr. MUDD: A bill (H. R. 5242) for the relief of Matilda Committee on War Claims. Pearson, widow of William E. Pearson-to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 5277) for the relief of Mrs. Bathsheba Gor­ Claims. · don-to the Committee on War Cfu,ims. By Mr. OVERSTREET: A bill (H. R. 5243) to correct the mili­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5278) to refer the claim of Hamlin Caldwell tary record of William R. Avery-to the Committee on Military to the Court of Claims-to the Committee on War Claims. Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 5279) for the relief of James M. Hankins-to By Mr. PARKER of New Jersey: A bill (H. R. 5244) for the the Committee on Invalid Pensions. relief of John G. Rose-to the Committee on Naval Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 5280) for the relief of heirs of John Hogan­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5245) granting a pension to FlorenceN. Wal­ to the Committee on War Claims. dron, helpless daughter of Capt. Samuel F. Waldron, Company I, Also, a bill (H. R. 5281) for the relief of Calvin S. Hill, of Lau­ Thirty-third Regiment New Jersey Infantry Volunteers-to the derdale County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5282) for the relief of Bartley Harris, of Madi­ By Mr. PAYNE: A bill (H. R. 5246) granting a pension to Louise son County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. B. Sweeting-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5283) for the relief of Elizabeth Jones, of By Mr. POWERS: A bill (H. R. 5247) to increa-se the pension of Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. Mary M. Strong, widow of the late Brig. Gen. Thomas J. Strong­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5284) for the relief of E. Jones-to the Com­ to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on War Claims. By Mr. ROBBINS: A bill (H. R. 5248) to remove the charge of Also, a bill (H. R. 5285) for the relief of Hampton W. Kelley, desertion standing against George L. Wigle-to the Committee on Madison County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 5286) for the relief of Meredith King-to the Also, a bill (H. R. 5249) granting a pension to George W. Committee on War Claims. Shearer-to the Committee on InvaHd Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5287) to pension Martha Parsons-to the Also, a bill (H. R. 5250) granting a pension to Samuel Dorner­ Committee on Pensions. to the Committee on, Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5288) for the 1·elief of William Kirckpatrick­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5251) to increase the pension of Lavinia R. to the Committee on War Claims. Wineland-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5289) for the relief of Hiram Peters-to the Also, a bill (H. R. 5252) granting a pension to Julia A. Holt­ Committee on Wru.: Claims. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5290) for the relief of James G. Porter-to Also, a bill (H. R. 5253) granting an increase of pension to the Committee on War Claims. Charles W. Hoffman-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5291) for the relief of the estate of Eliza J. Also, a bill (H. R. 5254) granting a pension to Annie E. Park­ Rudder, deceased, late of Jackson County, Ala.-to the Commit­ to the Committee on Pensions. tee on War Claims. By Mr. SA.UERHERING: A bill (H. R. 5255) to remove the Also, a bill (H. R. 5292) for the relief of Moses Smith-to the charge of desertion against Thoma-s Kelley, of Madison, Wis.-to Committee on War Clajms. the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 5293) for the relief of Perry P. Powell, of By Mr. SAMUEL W. SMITH: A bill (H. R. 5256) granting a Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. pension to Janet L. P. Taylor-to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5294) for the relief of Mrs. C. L. Robinson, of sions. Madison County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bHl (H. R. 5257) granting a pension to Hilia Ann Con­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5295) for the relief of C. M. Simmons-to the nor-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Committee on War Claims. By Mr. SULLOWA Y: A bill (H. R. 5258) granting a p·ension to Also, a bill (H. R. 5296) for the relief of J. P. Shook-to the Martha E. Dakin-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Committee on War Claims. By Mr. TATE: A bill (H. R. 5259) for the relief of Julia A. Alli­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5297) for the relief of Sarah J. Snoddy-to son-to the Committee on Military Affairs. the Committee on War Claims. By Mr. TAWNEY: A bill (H. R. 5260) granting an increase of Also, a bill (H. R. 5298) for the relief of the estate of Gabril M. pension to Russell L. Moore-to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ Smith, late of Jackson County, Ala.-to the Committee on War sions. Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5261) to remove the charge of desertion Also, a bill (H. R. 5299) for the relief of Elias Stutts, of St. against Benjamin F. Dayton-to the Committee on Military Florian, Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Affairs. Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5262) for the relief of Dewitt Eastman-to Also, a bill (H. R. 5300) for the relief of Ami Simmons-to the the Committee on Military Affairs. Committee on Invalid Pensions. 236 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEMBER 16,

Also, a bill (H. R. 5301) for the relief of John C. Thomas, of By Mr. PUGH: A bill (H. R. 5337) for the relief of Thomas Madison County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. Dean-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5302) for the relief of Dr. James W. St-ewart­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5338) for the relief of James S. Frizze11-to to the Committee on War Claims. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5303) for the relief of E. E. Mays-to the Also, a bill (H. R. 5339) for the relief of Bath County, Ky.-to Committee on War Claims. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5304) for the relief of the estate of John H. Also, a bill (H. R. 5310) for the relief of Thomas C. Isgrig-to Swift, deceased, late of Madison County, Ala.-to the Committee the Committee on War Claims. on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5341) for the relief of the administrator of the Also, a bill (H. R. 5305) for the relief of the estate of A. L. Logan, estate of Marcus L. Broadwell-to the Committee on War Claims. deceased, late of Madison County, Ala.-to the Committee on War By Mr. RUSSELL: A bill (H. R. 5342) granting a pension to Claims. Margaret Maria Hedge-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 5306) for the relief ofT. W. Townsend and By Mr. WADSWORTH: A bill (H. R. 5343) granting a pension wife-to the Committee on Claims. to Olive Howard, daughter of George Richardson~ a soldier of the Also, a bill (H. R. 5307) for the relief of John T. Lehman, of Revolutionary war-to the Committee on Pensions. Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5344) granting a pension to Delia A. Holmes, Also, a bill (H. R. 5303) for the relief of the estate of Julis B. daughter of Waterman Davis, a soldier of the , and Litten, deceased, lat-e of Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Com­ also of the rebellion-to the Committee on Pensions. mittee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5345) for the relief of Hannah Howard, step­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5309) for the relief of Alonzo H. Richards­ mother of Francis W. Howard, late of Company D, Sixty-fourth. to the Committee on War Claims. New York Volunteer Infantry-to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5310) to provide for the payment to Hugh G. sions. Kirby, administrator of the estate of R. L. Kirby, deceased, of Also, a bill (H. R. 5346) to remove the charge of desertion the amount found due by the Court of Claims-to the Committee standing against the name of Patrick Dougherty, Company A, on War Claims. Thirteenth New York Volunteer Infantry-to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 5311) for the relief of Jasper N. Parker-to Military Affairs. the Committee on War Claims. · Also, a bill (H. R. 5347) for the relief of George J. Campbell­ Also, a bill (H. R. 5312) for the relief of the estate of Alexander to the Committee on War Claims. P erryman, deceased, late of Lauderdale County, Ala.-to the Also, a bill (H. R. 5348) for the relief of Mary McCarthy, Committee on War Claims. mother of John E. McCarthy, Sixth Company, First Battalion Also, a bill (H. R. 5313) for the relief of Edmond Me Williams­ New York Sharpshooters-t-o the Committee_on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 5314) for the relief of W. B. Olive, of Flor­ ence, Ala.-to the Commitroe on War Claims. PETITIONS, ETC. Also, a bill (H. R. 5315) to refer the claim against the United Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, the following petitions and papers States of the Presbyterian Church of Huntsville, Ala., to the Court were laid on the Clerk's desk and referred as follows: of Claims-to the Committee on War Claims. By Mr. BAKER of Maryland: Papers to accompany House bill Also, a bill (H. R. 5316) for the relief of James Moore-to the No. 5150,f<1r the relief of James L. Burke and others-to the Com­ Committee on War Claims. mittee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5317) for the relief of the heirs of Wi11iam Also, paper to accompany House bill for the relief of James S. Farmer and Jeremiah Farmer-to the Committee on Pensions. Crawford-to the Committee on Claims. · Also, a bill (H. R. 5318) for the relief of Elizabeth Forney, the By Mr. BARROWS: Petition of the Boston Fish Burenu, of widow of William H. Forney-to the Committee on Pensions. Boston, Mass., for a joint commission, to be appointed by the By Mr. WHITE of North Carolina (by request): A bill (H. R. United States and the Dominion of Canada, to investigate the tTade 5319) for the relief of Mary Moten-to the Committee on Claims. relations between the two countries with a view to closer trade Also(byrequest), a bill (H. R. 5320) forthereliefofWillis Pinner, relations-to the Committee on Ways and Means. of the District of Columbia-to the Committee on Claims. Also, petition of the Young People's Christian Union of Am­ By Mr. YOUNG of Pennsylvania: A bill (H. R. 5321) to remove herst, Mass., for the passage of a bill to enact a Sabbath law for the the charge of desertion now existing on the records of the War national capital-to the Committee on the District of Columbia. Department against John Scanlan-to the Committee on Military Also, petition of the Young People's Christian Union of Am­ Affairs. herst, Mass., for the passage of a bill to raise the age of protection Also, a bill (H. R. 53.22) to relieve John W. White from the for girls to 18 years in the District of Columbia and the Territo­ charge of desertion-to the Committee on Military Affairs. ries-to the Committee on the Judiciary. · Also, a bill (H. R. 5323) to correct the military record of John Also, petition of the Young People's Christian Union of Am­ L. Keys-to the Committee on Military Affairs. herst, Mass., for the passage of a bill to prohibit the transmission By Mr. BELKNAP: A bill (H. R. 5324) for the relief of William by mail or interstate commerce of newspaper descriptions of prize N. Pringle-to the Committee on Military .A.ffairs. fights-to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Also~ a bill (H. R. 5325) for the relief of John Rw:tman-to the Also, petition of the Young People's Christian Union of Am­ Committee on Military Affairs. herst, Ma.:s., for the passage of a bill to forbiq the interstate trans­ Also, a bill (H. R. f5326) for the relief of Thomas Hickey-to the mission of lottery messages and other gambling matter by tele­ Committee on Military Affairs. graph-to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. By Mr. CAPRON: A bill (H. R. 5327) granting a.n increase of By Mr. BINGHAM: Petition of the board of managers of the pension to Bridget Fallon, widow of Richard Fallon, late of Com­ Trades League of Philadelphia, favoring appropriations for the pany.F, Fifteenth United States Infantry-to the Committee on improvement of the Delaware River-to the Committee on Rivers Pens10ns. and Harbors. By Mr. CATCHINGS: A bill (H. R. 5328) granting a pension By Mr. CLARDY: Papers to accompany House bill No. 2608, to Patrick O'Shea-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. for the relief of A. B. Gilliland-to the Committee on Military Also, a bill (H. R. 5329) for the relief of the legal representatives Affairs. of Ann D. Halsey, deceased-to the Committee on War Claims. By Mr. CORLISS: Paper to accompany House bill No. 474.'3, By Mr. DALZELL: A bill (H. R. 5330) for the relief of Calvin for the relief of Patrick O'Donnell-to the Committee on Invalid Nelson-to the Committee on War Claims. Pensions. By Mr. DOLLIVER: A bill (H. R. 5331) for the relief of Mrs. By Mr. COX: Papers to accompany House bill for the -relief of Helen M. Moore-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. William Whitaker-to the Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. HICKS: A bill (H. R. 5332) to relieve Isaac Gonser from By Mr. DALZELL: Statement of Calvin Nelson, to accompany the charge of desertion-to the Committee on Military Affairs. House bill for his relief-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 5333) for the relief of Fanny Gordon-to the By Mr. DAVIS (by request): Sundry petitions of Eugene 0. Committee on Invalid Pensions. Locke and 52 other citizens, J. A. Enslow and 52 others, and F. Also, a bill (H. R. 5334) granting a pension to William Houpt, P. Genover and 52 others, all of the State of Florida, in opposition the father of John Houpt, who enlisted as a private soldier in Com­ to the so-called anti-scalping bill or any simila.r measure-to the pany M, Twenty-first Pennsylvania Volunteer Cavalry-t-o the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce.. Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. DOLLIVER: Paper to accompany House bill for the Also, a bill (H. R. 5335) for the relief of George Smith-to the relief of Helen M. Moore-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. ELLIOTT: Sundry petitions of citizens of Charleston By Mr. NORTON of Ohio: A bill (H. R. 5336) to correct and and Georgetown, S. C., protesting against the passage of House amend the military record of Harrison Wagner-to the Commit­ bill No. 30, relating to railroad-ticket brokerage-to the Committoo tee on Military Affairs. on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. 1897. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 237

By Mr. FOSS: Resolutions adopted by the C~c.ago Federation SENATE. of Labor, opposing the passage o~ a bl1:J res~ctmg the sale !Jf railroad tickets, known as the anti-scalpmg bill-to the Comnnt­ FRIDAY, December 17, 1897. tee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. W. H . MILBURN, D. D. By Mr. GROUT: Testimony in the matter of granting a pen.sion The Secretary proceeded to read the Journal of yesterday's pro­ to Mrs. Cordelia Cheney, of Lunenburg, Vt.-to the Comnuttee ceedings, when, on motion of Mr. MILLS, and by unanimous con­ on Invalid Pensions. sent, the further reading was dispensed with. Also testimony in the matter of granting a pension to Mary E. Chamberlin-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. nEINDEER IN ALASKA. The VICE-PRESIDENT laid before the Senate a communica­ Also, testimony in the matter of granting a pension to Fan~y E. Alexander, to accompany House bill No. 2623-to the Commit- tion from the Secretary of the Interi01·, transmitting, in response tee on Invalid Pensions. · to a resolution of the 15th instant, the report of Dr. Sheldon JaDk­ son upon the introduction of dome~tic reindeer into the Distr!ct By 1\l.r. KULP: Resolutions of the Republican League of Lu­ of Alaska for 1897; which, on mot1on of Mr. TELLER, was, With zerne County, Pa., and the A. C. Hapnei: Repu~li~an qub, of the accompanying report, ordered to lie on the table and to be Philadelphia, Pa., in favor.of the n;to_dificat;~on of civil serviCe-to printed. the Committee on Reform m the CIVIl Serv~ce. illRIGATION OF SOUTHERN UTE RESERVATION, Also resolution of the Trades League of Philadelphia, Pa., favorn;g an appropriation for imp~oving the c}umnel o~ the_ Dela­ The VICE-PRESIDENT laid before the Senate a communica­ ware River to not less than 30 feet m depth ana 600 feet m Width­ tion from the Secretary of the Interior, transmitting, pursuant to to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. the Indian appropriation act of June 7, 1897, authorizing the Sec­ By Mr. LIVINGSTON: Paper to accomp.anying HOl~Se bill fot· retary of the Interior to confer with the owners of the .Montezuma. the relief of John D. Stocker-to the Committee on Claims. Valley Canal in the county of Montezuma and the State of Colorado, By Mr. NORTON of Ohio: Paper.s to accompany House bill ~o or any other parties, for the purpose of securing by the Govern­ correct the military record of Han'lson Wagner-to the Commit­ ment water rjghts, or for the supply of so much water, or both, tee on Military Affairs. as he may deem necessary for the irrigation of that part of the Montezuma Valley lying within the boundaries_· of the South~rn By Mr. ODELL: Petition of citizens of Highlan~, Orange Ute Indian Reservation, etc., a report of the Umted States Indian County, N. Y., to abolish the "canteen" at We3t Pomt-to the inspector, J. George Wright, upon the subject ; 'Yhich, with ~he Committee on Military Affairs. accompanying report, was referred to the Committee on Indian By Mr. POWERS: Petition of Mary M. Strong, widow ?f the Affairs, and ordered to be printed. late BriO'.0 Gen. Thomas J. Strong, to accompany House bill for increase of pension-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. . AGREE~ENT WITH CHOCTAW AND CHICKA.SAW INDIANS. By Mr. SMITH of illinois (by request): Pe~tionof the_ Chme~ The VICE-PRESIDENT laid before the Senate a communica­ Equal Rights League of America, Wo~g <_:ihmfoo, pres1_den~, m tion from the Secretary of the Interior, transmitting, in connection support of bill t0 permit the nat_urah_zation of Ame~·Ic~ed with Department letter of May 18,1897, submitting an agreement Chinese-to the Committee on Immigration and N atnrahzation: between the commissioners of the United States to negotiate with By 1\Ir. SAMUEL W. SMITH: Papers to accompanyH9use bill the Five Civilized Tribes and the commissioners on the part of granting a pension to Hilia Ann Connor-to the Comnnttee on the Choctaw and Chickasaw Indians, and with Department letter Invalid Pensions. of July 16, 1897, together with certain protests against ~he approval Also paper to accompany House bill granting a pension to Ja­ or ratification of the agreement, a copy of a paper which purports net L. P. Taylor-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to be the objections by the Choctaw-Chickasaw Union party to this By Mr. SNOVER: Protests _of the Counc~ of, Tr~des and agreement; which, with the accompanying· papers, was referred Labor Unions Iron Molders' Umon No. 31, Waiters Umon No.1, to the Select Committee on the Five Civilized Tribes of Indians, and Retail cierks' National Protective Association, protesting and ordered to be printed. against the passage of the so-c~lled anti-scalpers bill-to the Com­ PETITIONS AND MEMORIALS. mittee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Mr. FAIRBANKS presented a petition of the Silent Army of By Mr. SOUTHWICK: Petition of a public mee~g of t;he DE:af Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines, of Indianapolis, Ind., praying churches of Albany, N.Y., favoring the passage of a bill to ra1se that they be granted an increase of pension; which was refeued to the age of protection for girls to 18 years in the Distri~t ?f Colum­ bia and the Territories-to the Committee on the Judiciary. the Committee on Pensions. Also, petition of citizens of Albany, N.Y., for the pa-ssage of a Mr. QUAY. I present a petition of the Trades League of the bill to foTbid the sale of intoxicating beverages in all Government city of Philadelphia, which is a commercial body of much conse­ buildings-to the Committee on Alcoholic Liquor Traffic. quence. The petition ~ on a very :!mportant subj~ct, anc;l it is Also. petition of citizens of Albany, N. Y., for the passage of a very brief. I should like to have It read and prmted m the RECORD. bill to ·prohibit the transmission by mail or interstate co~merce of newspaper descriptions of prize fights-to the Committee on There being no objection, the petition was read, and referred to Interstate and Foreign Commerce. the Committee on Finance, as follows: TRADES LEAGUE OF PHILADELPHT.A., Also petition of citizens of .Albany, N. Y., for the passage of a Philadelphia, December 11., 1897. bill to'forbid the interstate transmission of lottery messages and At a. meeting of the board of managers of the Trades League of Phila­ other gambling matter by telegraph-to the Committee on the delphia, held December 9, 1897, the following resolution wa.s unanimously Judiciary. a.d~~:.S~:lt:ed, That the Trades League of Philadelphia, an organization of up­ Also, petition of a public meeting of the churches of Albany, ward of 2 000 business firms, regards with deep interest the overtures now N .Y. for the passage of a bill to enact a Sabbath law for the being made by the Dominion of Canada f?r closer and better bus~~s com­ munion between that country :md the Uruted States. All g~ prm~ples of natio~al capital-to the Committee on the District of Columbia. business and of internr\tional comity demand that our relatiOns with our By 1\Ir. WILLLt\.M A. STONE: Petition of Encampment No. G, closest neighbors should be as reciproca~ as the best interest~ of ol?-r. ~oun.try Union Veteran Legion, containing 112 names, .in favor of a _Per at large will warrant. The common mt-erests of humaruty, c1vi.lizut10n, diem or graded service pensiun to honorably diScharged soldie1·s commerce., and progress of the American continent dema.nd that such over­ ttu:es, offered in good faith, should be received with good will, and an effort of the late war-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. made to reach a basis of reciprocity which would be alike fair to the United By .Mr. STRODE of Nebraska: Petition of the American Sugar States and the Dominion of Canada and conducive to increased trade rela­ Growers' Society, urging consideration l?Y Congress .of the ~a­ tions between the two countries." THE TRADES LEAGUE OF PIIIL.A.DELPHI.A., waiian annexation scheme-to t.b.e Committee on Foreign Affairs. W. W. FOULKROD, Pl·esident. By Mr. TODD: Petition of William C. Hughes, to accompany J. N. FITZGERALD, See~·eta.nJ. House bill for his relief-to the Committee on War Claims. Mr. BACON presented a memorial of the Retail Clerks' Protect­ By :M:r. WHITE of North Carolina: Paper to accompanY:Hou~e ive Association of Savannah, Ga., remonstrating against any bill for the relief of Mary Moten, widow of John Moten, killed m change being made in the present system of ticket brokerage; the destruction of Northern Liberty Market, Washington, D. C.­ which was referred to the Committee on Interstate Commerce. to the Committee on Claims. Mr. CULLOM presented a memorial of the Federation of Labor · By Mr. ZENOR: Pape~s to accomp.any House bill No. 511~, to of Chicago, Ill., remonstrating against any change bejng made in grant an increase of pension to Catherme Hogg-to the Comnnttee the present system of ticket brokerage; which was referred to the on Invalid Pensions. - Committee on "'nterstate Commerce. Also papers to accompany House bill No. 5113, to correct the He also presented a petition of Dunlap Grange, Patrons of Hus­ militai;Y record of Capt. William Churchill-to the Committee on bandry, of Dunlap, TIL, praying for the establishment of postal Military Affairs. savings banks; which was referred to the Committee on Post­ Also, papers to a-ccompany House bill No .. 3121, f9r the relief of Offices and Post-Roads. Philip H. Odell-to the Committee on Invahd PensiOns. He also presented a retition of the Hotel Association of New