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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 11 FEBRUARY 2021 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 201 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP. Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 11 FEBRUARY, 2021 CONTENTS PAGE (S) LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME............................................................................................1-11 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...............................................................................................................11-19 STATEMENT Status of the Total Estimated Cost of The National Development Plan (NDP) 11..............................................20-25 Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, 2021 (No. 2 of 2021) Second Reading (Resumed Debate).................................................................................................................26-57 TABLING OF PAPER Botswana Geoscience Institute Annual Report, 2020................................................................................................20 Thursday 11th February, 2021 LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME Thursday 11th February, 2021 mo dipakeng tse Mothusa Tautona, tse batho ba nang le mathata a go latlhegelwa ke ditiro, tse re rayang THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. Batswana re re go tlhaela mo re batlang go oketsa (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) makgetho otlhe a re ka a kgonang, a go maleba gore go bo go ntse jalo fa e le gore go boammaaruri? Ke dintlha P R A Y E R S tse ke kopang gore Mothusa Tautona a di tsibogele. Ke a leboga. * * * * MR SPEAKER: Honourable Leader of the House. MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! Honourable Members, good morning. May we start … Silence… our business of today with the Leader of the House’s question. MR SPEAKER: The Leader of the House! LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION … Silence … TIME MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member, can you unmute THEME: PURCHASE OF ARMOURED yourself? VEHICLES … Silence… To ask His Honour the Vice President to confirm if MR SPEAKER: Vice President (VP), can you unmute indeed His Excellency the President issued a Directive yourself? for the purchase of five armoured vehicles for his use as reported in the media and if so, to state: …Silence… (i) whether the vehicles had been budgeted for; MR SPEAKER: Nothing is happening. (ii) the department or ministry accounts that were … Silence… utilised for the procurement as well as the agents MR SPEAKER: VP, you are supposed to press the if any, that were used for the procurement; button on your side. Tobetsa kwa go wena. (iii) how much was paid to the agents and the total …Silence… costs associated with the transaction; and MR SPEAKER: VP, they are going to send a signal (iv) if there are plans to refurbish the Office of the which will appear on your screen and you click on President for P42 million as also reported by the that icon which they are going to send. Click on that, media. something is going to pop up on your screen, click on it. MR D. SALESHANDO (MAUN WEST): Thank …Silence… you Mr Speaker. Ke na le potso e ke e lebagantseng LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Motlotlegi Mothusa Tautona. Se ke batlang go se dira Thank you Mr Speaker. mo letsatsing la gompieno, ke go tsibogela dipego tse di nnileng teng mo dipampiring dingwe tsa bobegadikgang. MR SPEAKER: Thank you VP. Tse di neng di supa gore go ntshitswe taelo ke Tautona MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, can you hear me? gore go rekiwe dikoloi dingwe tse ka Sekgoa ba di bitsang armoured vehicles, go oketsa itshireletso ya ga MR SPEAKER: I can hear you Honourable VP. Tautona. A re bolelele gore a go boammaaruri go nnile MR TSOGWANE: I think a strong message must le taelo ya go nna jalo? Ke eng se se gwetlhileng se, be sent to the people who are muting us that side Mr ka nako e go leng thata mo itsholelong madi a tlhaela? Speaker. Even the most idiotic person cannot unmute Ke eng go ne go sa salwe tsamaiso e e itsiweng ya go lekodisa Palamente fa go tlhokafala madi a go nna jalo? themselves when the thing is locked. This thing is locked from that side. So, can you send a strong message to Re bolelelwa fa go ya go dirisiwa madi a a kana ka those people who are locking us. As soon as Parliament P42 million go ntšhafatsa Ofisi ya Tautona. A mme sits, they must unlock us. You keep on saying unmute, Hansard No 201 1 Thursday 11th February, 2021 LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME press this button, this thing we are used to it. They are replacement parts are no longer easy to get, muted, they tell you and they communicate. They tell as you are aware, it is an old building. I must you that you cannot unmute yourself. Thank you Mr emphasis Mr Speaker, that at the time of project Speaker. conceptualisation, this was actually a priority. I thank you Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Okay VP, continue. As I said, an upgrade version in Setswana would help MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, those who are listening from home. Ka bokhutshwane potso e e fa pele ga me e, e kwadilwe ka Sejatlhapi. fela, if you allow Mr Speaker. Jaanong ka gore mong wa potso o buile ka Setswana, mma pele ke e bue ka Sejatlhapi. Ke tlaa e ngotla kana …Silence… summarise ka Setswana gore Batswana le bone kwa bofelong ba e utlwe. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga ke itse gore a ba bangwe ba a mo utlwa Mr Speaker, ka kwa go nna ga ke Mma ke simolole fela ka potso, ga e telele Mr Speaker. utlwe sepe jaanong. Ke simolole ka gore ke a e lebogela because e tlaa tlhalosa dilo tse dintsi.