THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 11 FEBRUARY 2021

MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 201 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East)

Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

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RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP. Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 11 FEBRUARY, 2021

CONTENTS PAGE (S)

LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME...... 1-11

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 11-19

STATEMENT Status of the Total Estimated Cost of The National Development Plan (NDP) 11...... 20-25

Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, 2021 (No. 2 of 2021) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)...... 26-57

TABLING OF PAPER Botswana Geoscience Institute Annual Report, 2020...... 20 Thursday 11th February, 2021 LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME

Thursday 11th February, 2021 mo dipakeng tse Mothusa Tautona, tse batho ba nang le mathata a go latlhegelwa ke ditiro, tse re rayang THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. Batswana re re go tlhaela mo re batlang go oketsa (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) makgetho otlhe a re ka a kgonang, a go maleba gore go bo go ntse jalo fa e le gore go boammaaruri? Ke dintlha P R A Y E R S tse ke kopang gore Mothusa Tautona a di tsibogele. Ke a leboga. * * * * MR SPEAKER: Honourable Leader of the House. MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! Honourable Members, good morning. May we start … Silence… our business of today with the Leader of the House’s question. MR SPEAKER: The Leader of the House! LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION … Silence … TIME MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member, can you unmute THEME: PURCHASE OF ARMOURED yourself? VEHICLES … Silence…

To ask His Honour the Vice President to confirm if MR SPEAKER: Vice President (VP), can you unmute indeed His Excellency the President issued a Directive yourself? for the purchase of five armoured vehicles for his use as reported in the media and if so, to state: …Silence…

(i) whether the vehicles had been budgeted for; MR SPEAKER: Nothing is happening.

(ii) the department or ministry accounts that were … Silence… utilised for the procurement as well as the agents MR SPEAKER: VP, you are supposed to press the if any, that were used for the procurement; button on your side. Tobetsa kwa go wena. (iii) how much was paid to the agents and the total …Silence… costs associated with the transaction; and MR SPEAKER: VP, they are going to send a signal (iv) if there are plans to refurbish the Office of the which will appear on your screen and you click on President for P42 million as also reported by the that icon which they are going to send. Click on that, media. something is going to pop up on your screen, click on it.

MR D. SALESHANDO (MAUN WEST): Thank …Silence… you Mr Speaker. Ke na le potso e ke e lebagantseng LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Motlotlegi Mothusa Tautona. Se ke batlang go se dira Thank you Mr Speaker. mo letsatsing la gompieno, ke go tsibogela dipego tse di nnileng teng mo dipampiring dingwe tsa bobegadikgang. MR SPEAKER: Thank you VP. Tse di neng di supa gore go ntshitswe taelo ke Tautona MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, can you hear me? gore go rekiwe dikoloi dingwe tse ka Sekgoa ba di bitsang armoured vehicles, go oketsa itshireletso ya ga MR SPEAKER: I can hear you Honourable VP. Tautona. A re bolelele gore a go boammaaruri go nnile MR TSOGWANE: I think a strong message must le taelo ya go nna jalo? Ke eng se se gwetlhileng se, be sent to the people who are muting us that side Mr ka nako e go leng thata mo itsholelong madi a tlhaela? Speaker. Even the most idiotic person cannot unmute Ke eng go ne go sa salwe tsamaiso e e itsiweng ya go lekodisa Palamente fa go tlhokafala madi a go nna jalo? themselves when the thing is locked. This thing is locked from that side. So, can you send a strong message to Re bolelelwa fa go ya go dirisiwa madi a a kana ka those people who are locking us. As soon as Parliament P42 million go ntšhafatsa Ofisi ya Tautona. A mme sits, they must unlock us. You keep on saying unmute,

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press this button, this thing we are used to it. They are replacement parts are no longer easy to get, muted, they tell you and they communicate. They tell as you are aware, it is an old building. I must you that you cannot unmute yourself. Thank you Mr emphasis Mr Speaker, that at the time of project Speaker. conceptualisation, this was actually a priority. I thank you Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Okay VP, continue. As I said, an upgrade version in Setswana would help MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, those who are listening from home. Ka bokhutshwane potso e e fa pele ga me e, e kwadilwe ka Sejatlhapi. fela, if you allow Mr Speaker. Jaanong ka gore mong wa potso o buile ka Setswana, mma pele ke e bue ka Sejatlhapi. Ke tlaa e ngotla kana …Silence… summarise ka Setswana gore Batswana le bone kwa bofelong ba e utlwe. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga ke itse gore a ba bangwe ba a mo utlwa Mr Speaker, ka kwa go nna ga ke Mma ke simolole fela ka potso, ga e telele Mr Speaker. utlwe sepe jaanong. Ke simolole ka gore ke a e lebogela because e tlaa tlhalosa dilo tse dintsi. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member, you are not out of the rule… (i) Mr Speaker, media reports, if any, suggesting that His Excellency the President issued a Directive MR TSOGWANE: A ke a utlwala? for the purchase of five armoured vehicles are MR SPEAKER: Yes, I hear you. wrong, misleading and malicious. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Rona ga re mo utlwe Mr (ii) Mr Speaker, the said vehicles were purchased by Speaker. the Directorate of Intelligence and Security (DIS) in fulfilment of its established mandate to provide MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, ke eng ke sa utlwiwe ke ba protective security services to His Excellency Kganetso fela? the President, His Honour the Vice President, HONOURABLE MEMBER: Rona re a mo utlwa. visiting Heads of State and other Very Important Persons (VIPs). The procurement of the vehicles MR TSOGWANE: Ke eng ke sa utlwiwe ke ba had nothing to do with COVID-19 as the tender Kganetso fela fa ke batla go bua Setswana? Fa ke bua th was awarded before the pandemic outbreak on 20 Sekgoa, makgoanyana a Kganetso a a nkutlwa, fa ke September, 2019 by Public Procurement and Asset bua Setswana, ga ba nkutlwe. Disposal Board (PPADB). HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re a go utlwa. (iii) Mr Speaker; it should be noted that the vehicles in question were purchased by the Directorate from its MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, makgoanyana a Kganetso budget at a total cost of USD 1,015,533.28 having ga a nkutlwe. A wa nkutlwa Rre Saleshando? followed PPADB procurement requirements. Finally, Mr Speaker, the Directorate’s preferred MR SALESHANDO: Ke a go utlwa motlotlegi, method of procurement is to deal directly with ke ne ke sa itse gore lekgoanyana o raya nna, o tlaa service providers and not middlemen; and as such, intshwarela. saving costs. MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, ke raya lekgoanyana le (iv) Mr Speaker, the proposal to refurbish the Office gotweng Boko sir, e seng wena. Thank you. of the President (OP) building is not new, it was Ke ne ke re, ka bokhutshwanyane fela ke sa batle go actually decided in 2019. However, the actual le jela nako, tota dipego tse di ntseng jalo, fa e le gore works started on the 21st February 2020 before di ne di le teng mo dipampiring tsa dikgang, ga di na we even had one case of COVID-19, with the boammaaruri. initial completion date set for July 2020. This refurbishment project is at an estimated cost of Sa bobedi ke ne ke re, dikoloi tseo di rekilwe, ka P43 million, and it is basically intended to deal thulaganyo ya ba Directorate on Intelligence and with the structural defects, old fittings for which Security (DIS), ka tshireletso le ka ditsamaiso tse ba

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nang natso, le tshireletso ya ga Tautona. Madi a di a tsena. So the financial projections by then, di ne di se rekilweng ka one jaaka ke a boletse ka Dollars, ka gore mo seemong kana di sa supe seemo se re nang le sone di rekilwe ka ledi leo, ka fa go ntseng ka teng, gore gompieno. gongwe ke fetolele kwa Setswaneng gompieno, ke ya kwa Dipuleng, go tlaa fetola tlhwatlhwa ka gore go na Gape, re tshwanetse ra itse gore fa re bua ka tshireletsego le gore go fetoge exchange rates. Ka Dollar ke USD 1 ya ga Tautona, re bua ka tshireletsego ya lefatshe, 015 533.28. Ke bo ke supa jalo gore yone Office ya ga stability le ka kagiso. Re a bona tse di diragalang mo Tautona le yone e shafaditswe ka madi a a kana ka P43 mafatsheng. Go ne go se kgakala re tswa mo ditlhophong million. maloba, go tsogile mekubukubu, go le dikgang tsa gore go tsieditswe mo ditlhophong, go buiwa dikgang tse Dithulaganyo tse di dirilwe pele ga go nna le bolwetse di nang le go kgotlela kagiso, le tshireletsego ya ga jwa COVID-19. Ka nako eo, go ne go le maleba ka Tautona e ne e se e e nitameng. Ka go rialo, re bone se ntata ya gore building e e kgologolo, e bile dilo tse di se diragetseng le kwa lefatsheng le lengwe le legologolo tshwanetseng go dirisiwa mo go e shafatseng, ga di sa mo democracy gompieno la America. Jaanong ga re ka bonala mo mmarakeng mo malatsing a gompieno. Ke ke ra tsaya tshireletsego ya ga Tautona loleo. E bile ke sone se go neng go tlhokafala ntšhafatso eo. Ka mafoko a makhutshwane, kgang ya me e ntse jalo. Ke a leboga. boletse gore ofisi eo e kgologolo, di dirisiwa tsa yone ga di bonale mo mmarakeng. Ka go rialo, go ne go le MR SALESHANDO: Ke a go leboga Motsamaisa maleba gore dilo tseo di dirisiwe. Ga re gane gore deficit Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke lebogela le karabo ya ga e ne e seyo, mme the projections were there ka gore Mothusa Tautona. Ke batla go mo tlhamalaletsa kgang seemo seo e ne e le se se sa tshwaneng le se re leng mo ya botlhokwa gore, e re ntswa e ne e le pele ga nako ya go sone gompieno. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo Corona, ba dirile ditshwetso tse ka nako e madi a Puso a tsa Palamente. neng a tlhaela. Re ne re setse re na le deficitsmo budget. Madi a re a bonang, a ne a setse a le kwa tlase ga a re a MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke botse Tona gore, a o a itse gore fa a re o ne a solofela gore ... tlhokang. A molaetsa wa bone mo setšhabeng ke gore, e re ntswa go ne go tlhaela madi, ba ne ba bona go le MR SPEAKER: Order! O botsa Tona efe? botlhokwa gore ba dirise madi a a fetang P12 million e le dikoloi tsa ga Tautona le Mothusi wa gagwe? Se se ba MR RAMOGAPI: Ga ke utlwe. tshositseng gore ba ye go batla armoured car ke eng? MR SPEAKER: O botsa Tona efe? Sa bobedi, le one a a buang a kwa OP, ba tsere tshwetso MR RAMOGAPI: Rra? ya gore ba ya go ntšhafatsa, madi a Puso a ntse a tlhaela, re na le deficits, re sa kgone go bona madi a a lekaneng MR SPEAKER: O botsa Tona efe? ditiro tse re di batlang. A ba kgotsofalela gore gone mo go tsamaelana le ga value for money, gore mo nakong MR RAMOGAPI: Ga ke utlwale ka koo? yone ya gompieno, ba bo ba kgotsofala gore go ne go MR SPEAKER: Ke a go utlwa, ke sone se ke go patelesega gore ba dirise P43 million go ntšhafatsa botsang gore o botsa Tona efe? Office of the President, more than P12 million go reka dikoloi mo nakong ya deficit? Ke a leboga. MR RAMOGAPI: Ehee! Sorry, thank you Mr Speaker. Gakere re santse re le mo go ya ga Honourable MR TSOGWANE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Jaaka ke Tsogwane? ne ke bolela ke re ke ne ke araba potso jaaka e boditswe, mme e bile deficit kana go tlhaelelwa ga madi, go ntse MR SPEAKER: Yes sir. go le teng ka dinako tse tsotlhe, go laolwa fela ke gore fa re dira ditiro, re a bo re lebeletse diteemane le tse di MR RAMOGAPI: Ee, ke ne ke botsa Motlotlegi tsenyang madi gore mo lebakeng le le rileng, madi a Mothusa Tautona gore, fa a re seemo sa madi se ne se le tlaabo a nnile teng. botoka, a o a itse gore mo dingwageng tse di fetileng tse five, go ne go ntse go supa gore ga go ise go ke go nne le Deficit e a tle e simologe e nne teng, e re kwa bofelong mo go bitswang gotwe ke budget surplus? Re ne re ntse jwa kabo ya madi a ngwaga, deficit eo fa gongwe e re na le mo gotweng ke budget deficit kana ditatlhegelo phimolwe kana e fedisiwe ka lebaka la madi a a tlaabong mo budget ya rona.

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Potso ya bobedi ke mmotse gore, ke eng se ba se boneng e ne e le an armoured car kana e ne e le koloi ya gagwe gore go nne botoka gore fa projects kana ditiro tsa rona fela e nngwe e a e dirisang. O tshwantshanya le Tautona kwa magaeng jaaka sepatela sa Palapye, ba bone gore se Khama gore le ene gatwe o ne a gana. Ga ke itse gore o se ka sa agiwa, mme ba bo ba bona gore nnyaa, le fa go ganne leng. tsewa madi kwa dikgaolong, mme ya ga Tautona yone, e tswelele fela e rekiwe ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Gape ba opposition, ke tshwanetse go ba gakolola ka nako e go itse gore they were the first to say Tautona Ya bofelo; ke mo gakolole gore kana Tautona Mogae Khama was the most expensive Vice President this e kile ya re gotwe o rekelwa koloi, a gana a re nnyaa, country ever had. Ba kile ba bo ba tsamaya ba ya kwa a re tsweleleng ka koloi e. Tautona Khama e kile ya re Ombudsman go seka go fofisiwa ga flying machines tsa gotwe o rekelwa koloi, a gana a re nnyaa a re tsweleleng Botswana Defence Force (BDF) ke Tautona Khama. Ba ka koloi e ka gore lefatshe ga le a itekanela. E bile gape ne ba supa gore go ne go na le caravan e nngwe e e ofisi e e ne e santse e dirisiwa ke Rraetsho Motlotlegi neng ya rekelwa Tautona Khama ka nako eo. Ba eme ka Khama, Tautona wa pele. Mo go raya gore ba ka bo ba dinao, ba lwa gore Tautona Khama… sireleditse seemo sa madi ka gore re mo leshekereng le le gakgamatsang. Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker. HONOURABLE MEMBER: On a point of order Mr Speaker. MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, o ka bo o tlogetse MR TSOGWANE: …is the most expensive Vice motlotlegi a botsa Tona. O ne a botsa sentle ka gore o a President or President that we have ever had. Rra itse gore dipotso tse di na le Tona yo o di lebaganeng. O Ramogapi fa a ntse a bua dilo tse, a bo a itse gore there ne a leka go gakolola Rre Saleshando gore go na le Tona is a history, and some of us are old enough in this yo o lebaganeng le dikgang tsa madi le wa Office of the Parliament to know what has been happening in the President. O ne a se molato motho yoo, e bile o ne a sa past. So ke gone a gorogang, ga a itse gore go ntse go thulamela, o ne a botsa sentle. Rre Ramogapi ke a go diragala eng. Jaanong a tlogele go bua tseo tse re sa di bueng fa, a itebaganye le supplementaries tsa potso jaaka leboga, kgakololo ya gore go bodiwa Tona yo o maleba di ntse ka gore yo o tswang mo tseleng a itebaganya le gore supplementaries tse a tle a di arabe sentle. supplementaries tse Rre Saleshando a sa di botsang, ke Jaanong fa ke tla mo dikgannyeng tsa gagwe tse a di tlaa di araba mme ke tlaabo ke lebega o kare ke tswa mo boditseng; kana ga re gane gore ga go ise go ko go nne tseleng, mme e le go araba dikgang tse di tswang mo le deficits, mme e bile ga gona projects tse dingwe tse batlotleging. Ke a leboga. di tlhaelang. Se re se buang gape ke gore, security sa ga DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Tautona le lefatshe se botlhokwa thata. Se ke se buang Honourable Vice President, kana e rile fa Rraetsho ke gore, le fa go ka tswa go na le deficits, seemo se ne Khama a tsena mo State House, sa baakanngwa, ke se sa tshwane le sa gompieno. Gompieno re bolelelwa dumela ka P17 million. E rile go tswa foo, Rre Masisi gore re tswa go tsaya madi a reserves. Ka nako eo madi a tshwanetse go tsena mo State House, gatwe se a reserves le dikadimo di ne di ka nna teng, le projects baakanngwa ka P10 million. Ya re morago ga nako ga tse dingwe tse re neng re di dira tsa Puso fa go le thata, re buiwa gore se baakantswe ka P10 million e bile Tautona ne re adima madi. Go ne go na le seemo se se siametseng Rraetsho Masisi o boetse mo State House. Jaanong gore go ka adingwa. Go ne go sa tshwane le seemo sa gompieno le re bolelela gore se ya go baakangwa gompieno ka gore ga re ka ke ra tshwantshanya selo jaanong ka P43 million. Bagaetsho, tota la re State seo le project e e leng gore ke go reka koloi. Ga ke itse House se se baakanngwang ka P17 million, fa morago gore a koloi eo e ne e ka aga dipatela tse di tlhaelang P10 million, gompieno ke P43 million, la re re ya go mafelo otlhe a Botswana. So ga ke dumele jalo. Fa e le felela fa kae ka sone? Ga se gore re akanyeng gore go gore sepatela se a tlhaela, re lebile ka fa re rulaganyang na le go se baakanya ka gore gongwe se kgautlhane mo projects tsa rona ka teng, se ne se ka adimelwa madi se sa baakanyegeng, go agiwe State House se sesha? fa nne seemo se sa nna jaana. Projects tsotlhe di ntse Motlotlegi, sone se sesha, le akanya gore se ka agiwa di adimelwa madi a ntse a tlhaela. Jaanong ke seemo ka bokae? sa go tshwantshanya dilo tse di sa tshwaneng. Gape o simolola a tshwantshanya a re Tautona Mogae o ne a Potso ya bobedi ke gore go na le dipuo tse gotweng gana go rekelwa koloi. Ga ke itse gore ke koloi efe, e botshelo jwa ga Tautona Rraetsho Masisi bo mo bile ga a bue gore ke ya modiro mang. Ga ke itse gore a diphatseng. Ke batla gore kgang e Mothusa Tautona, a

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ko o rurifatse gore fa gotwe bo mo diphatseng, go tewa bona go ne go dira tshiamo e ntsi gore go itebaganngwe ka tsela e e ntseng jang mme re ise re bone le fa e le le go tokafatsa seemo sa ga Tautona at the expense of motho yo mongwefela yo o tlisiwang fa pele ga lekgotla matshelo a Batswana a a kanakana, a a mo lehumeng go tla go sekela go gomagometsa botshelo jwa ga le le utlwisang botlhoko? A mme re raya gore re le Tautona rraetsho? Ke a leboga. lefatshe, re tsere tsela e e siameng go ka re mo ngwageng o le mongwefela, re bo re ya go dirisa more than P50 MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke tsaya million mo mothong a le mongwefela, yo e leng gore ke gore batlotlegi botlhe, how many are we? 67, ke gone? Tautona, yo o rileng o ya go nna a servant of the people? There is only one Member of Parliament (MP) who A Mothusa Tautona o bona golo mo go tlaa isa lefatshe does not know what the question is all about. Go na le la rona kwa pele? motlotlegi a le mongwefela mo batlotleging botlhe ba ba mo Palamenteng, yo o sa tlhaloganyeng gore kgang Ke wele ka gore ke botse Mothusa Tautona gore dikoloi ya ga Motlotlegi Saleshando o ne a botsa ka ga eng. Ke tse, a ke tsone tse e ka reng fa Tautona kamoso a tlogela Motlotlegi Dr Gobotswang; the Vice President of the tiro, o bo o tsena mo go tsone? Botswana Congress Party (BCP). Rraetsho, tsamaya o MR TSOGWANE: Thulaganyo ya security sa ga ye go bua le Rre Saleshando, o mmotse gore go buiwa Tautona e mo go ba Directorate of Intelligence and ka ga eng. Ga re bue ka State House, re bua ka Office Security (DIS). of the President; the renovation kwa ofising. Go na le pharologanyo fa gare ga ofisi le ntlo yaboroko. Jaanong This is an intelligence security matter, it is not a tota ga ke batle go tsena mo go arabeng eo ka gore e food security issue or social security matter, it is an ka re isa kwa dikgannyeng di sele. Jaanong go tlaa re intelligence security issue. So dilo tse dintsi ga o ka ke fa potso e bodiwa… Gape dipotso tse di tsenngwa mo wa ditlhaloganya. Ga re ka ke ra itse gore ba DIS ka Order Paper, batlotlegi ba na le Order Papers. If you can dikitso tsa bone tse di tseneletseng tsa security ba bone go tlhokafala go le kae gore ba dire jalo. E ne e le bone read the Order Paper, the yellow one, even the green one ba ba neng ba sekaseka. Ke boletse lantlha fa ke araba ya Notice Paper, it is there. It is given to Members of potso e gore selo sa ntlha ga go boammaaruri gore ke Parliament many days before the question is asked. So Tautona yo o ntshitseng directive gore go rekwe dikoloi ke ipotsa gore Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Kgaolo ya tseo. E ne ele ba DIS ba ba tlhokometseng security sa Sefhare-Ramokgonami, o tsiediwa ke eng. Go tlaa re gagwe, ba bona go tlhokafala gore go nne le dikoloi golo mo ga virtual meeting, re bone gore re go address tsa go nna jalo. Le seemo re a se bona mo malatsing a ka tsela e e ntseng jang ka gore jaanong go timetsa batho gompieno, jaaka ke ntse ke bua gore lefatshe lotlhe ga le go feta. Ga ke kitla ke araba eo sir, ke a kopa Mr le a iketla. Jaanong o botsa gore a dikoloi tseo ke tse ke Speaker, ga re bue ka State House. Setšhaba se itse kwa tlaabong ke tsena mo go tsone, ga ke itse gore o raya ke ntle kwa gore ga re bue ka State House, re bua ka Office tsena mo go tsone leng, jang? Jaanong tseo ke dipolotiki of the President. tsa Mopalamente wa Francistown South, yo o itseweng Gape o botsa e nngwe ya botshelo jwa ga Tautona gore ka tsone and is a trademark ya gagwe, ya gore e re fa gatwe bo mo diphatseng. Ga re bue ka botshelo jwa go buiwa dikgang tse di tlhoafetseng a bo a loka letswai. dipampiri tseo. A a tle ka potso eo fa e le gore e a mo Jaanong go loka letswai mo Batswana ba tshwanetseng tshwenya, kana o bona e e se botlhokwa. Fa e le gore gore ba go ele tlhoko, e bile ba ithute, ba bo ba itse gore ga e botlhokwa mo go ene e re e buang gompieno, a a ba itlhabile ka thipa mpeng. Jaanong go tlaa nna go ntse itidimalele, go na le gore a bo a tla ka dikgang tse disha go nna jalo. tse re sa di bueng gompieno. I thank you Mr Speaker. Batho betso ga ke batle go arabela eo, ke boletse gore go MR MMOLOTSI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke ne go tlhokafala ka nako eo, mme e bile ke boletse gore re ke botse Mothusa Tautona gore fa re lebile seemo dikoloi tseo ga se tsone tse di ka emisang gore ditlamelo sa itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana gone jaaka go ne di tswelele kwa Batswaneng kana sepe se Batswana ba go tsewa ditshwetso tsa go reka dikoloi tsa P12 million se setlhokang ba tswelele ba se direlwa. Ga go ka ke ga di rekelwa motho a le mongwefela e bong Tautona, le emisiwa ke madi ao, e bile ke boletse gore dithulaganyo renovation ya P43,000, banana ba sena ditiro, bagodi tse tsotlhe di ne di dirilwe ka nako e re neng re se mo ba sa okelediwe madi a tandabala, lefatshe le le mo seemong se re leng mo go sone gompieno. Seo re seemong se le leng mo go sone. A Mothusa Tautona o tshwanetse gore re se amogele. Nako eo re a itse gore

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batho ba ne ba solofetsa batho madi a a seng kanaka procurement to procure directly with service providers sepe a eleng gore fa re ka ba botsa gompieno gore ma and not middlemen. Bao ba a bo ba iphaga dikgoro fela P3000 a bo a tandabala a le neng le a solofetsa batho middlemen was not engaged. It was procured directly fa le ya kwa ditlhophong a gompieno le ka ba a neela? from the service provider. So moo ke ditshwantsho fela Ke dilo tse e leng gore fa gongwe fa di diragala re tsa ba tlang ka maikaelelo, jaaka o bona le madi go buiwa tshwanetse ra itse gore di diragala ka seemo se se rileng, madi a sele. Ka gore ga re laole motho yo o batlang go batho ba lebile eng. Ga go molato gore go bo go dirilwe bega se a se begang, ga gona se re ka se dirang. Ke gore thulaganyo e ntseng jalo Mr Speaker. Fa go na le tse re tlhalosetse setšhaba se e leng boammaaruri gore ba dingwe dipotso di ka nna tsa tswelela, mme a e nne tse tswe mo go dumeleng dilo tse ba di boneng, tse dingwe di itebaganyang...(Inaudible)… mo social media tse di senang boammaaruri. Jaanong ke re go ntse fela jalo, le bone ba le ba o ntseng o ba MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Thank you very much gakolola bao gore ba nne bontlha bongwe jwa oversight Mr Speaker and good morning. Mothusa Tautona, ke ya DIS, ba kope o ba lemotshe gore dilo tse ba ka bo ba lebogela tshedimoso e ya gago, ka gore go ntse go na le di botsa directly gone ka koo. Ke a leboga. ketsaetsego e ntsi go buiwa madi a bo P70 million. Go buiwa madi a mantsintsi gotwe dikoloi tse di tswa go MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, rekiwa ka one, go ne go na le agents tse di duetsweng. Motlotlegi Vice President o buile madi a a kanaka bo Jaanong ke lebogela gore o bo o tlhatswitse dikgang P11/12 million gore ke one a a dirisitsweng mo dikoloing tse mongwame. Mothusa Tautona gape jaaka o file tse. Motho o ka ipotsa gore a madi a ke a dikoloi fela background gore, kana re tswa mo ditlhophong tse di kana le transportation ya tsone go tla kwano e mo teng, neng di tletse dipuo, go na le petitions, go na le eng, so mme fa e le gore ga e mo teng e ya go nna bokae? Fa e there was a lot of insecurity. Jaanong potso ya me e ne le gore e mo teng e nnile bokae, le gore transportation e le gore mo maranyaneng (social media) we have seen ya tsone go dirisiwa eng? Fa gongwe go ka dirisiwa kwa Walvis Bay port dikoloi di le on the flatbeds gotwe sefofane kana containers go di tlisa kwano. Go dirisiwa ke tse re buang ka tsone gompieno. There is another eng, a se se dirisiwang ke sone the cheapest? The second question o buile gore go dirisitswe Lephata la DIS, mo video circulating from Dubai, le yone gatwe ke dikoloi malobeng go kile ga buiwa thata ka lephata kana VIP tse re buang ka tsone. Jaanong ke batla go itse gore are Protection Units. Potso e nna gore naare VIP Protection we satisfied with the kind of contractors we engage Units e under DIS kana sesole? Why e le under DIS, le looking at how sensitive these issues are, looking at the ikaelela gore e nne an independent unit leng fa e le gore security aspects of it? Are we vetting properly batho ba e under DIS given gore DIS e na le dikgang tsa yone re felelang re ba hiretse ditiro tse gore ba kgone go se fela tse e leng gore ga di kgone go tlhaloganyesega? ka ba sedimosa dilo tse e leng gore ga di a tshwanela? A mme ga le bone le tsenya VIP Protection Unit mo Ke gore jaaka koloi ba simolola ba supa gore e na le dikgannyeng tse di sa tlhokafaleng tsa DIS? eng, e kgona go dira eng, e bo jaanong seemo se re lekang go se bipa sa itshireletso se bo se felela se le MR TSOGWANE: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi mo mpaananeng. Ke batla go feleletsa ke re, kana fa Mopalamente wa Maun East. Tota tsa VIP Protection komiti ele ya intelligence Mothusa Tautona bangwe ba Unit ga ke batle go tsena mo go tsone jaaka ke boletse sa e ngala, dingwe tsa dikgang tse Mapalamente ba ka gore ke ne ke itebagantse le se potso fela e neng e se bo ba di utlwela gone koo ba kgona go di tlhaloganya. boditse. Gongwe mo nakong e e tlang re ka go batlela Ke a leboga. tlhaloso e e botoka ya VIP Protection Unit. Re a itse gore Tautona kana ga se gore fa a tlhokometswe jaana o MR TSOGWANE: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi tlhokometswe fela ke ba itshireletso ...(Inaudible)… ba Mopalamente yo o tlotlegang wa Gaborone Central. DIS fela, e mo all security forces ka fa di farologanyeng Kana tse tsa boranyane go a bo go dira batho, gape ba ka teng. Like I am saying, that is a question that needs tshwana fela le motho a dira film, a dira se a batlang go more research or information on it. Jaanong o ne o se dira, go se supa kana go se tshwantsa on the film, go boditse e nngwe ya gore madi a a tsentse transport; ke sa reye gore that is the reality. E ya bo e le dikgang tse di tsaya gore ke yone e o neng o e boditse. Nnyaa, kana the supiwang ke batho ba supa tse ba di supang. So rona ga budget as it stands ba buile fela gore the budget at a total re tseye moo e le boammaaruri. Jaanong ke tshwanetse of that amount, tumelo ya me ke gore e tsentse sengwe ke gore ke go tlhomamisetse, jaaka ke boletse mo le sengwe fa e leng gore ke one madi a a duetsweng. Ke potsong ka re, the Directorate preferred method of a leboga motlotlegi.

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MR SALESHANDO: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke na The supplementary is just by the way. Supplementary le dipotso tse pedi, mme ke batla go gakolola Mothusa e tshwana le motho a re, “ga ke a utlwa sentle, a Tautona gore a ye go bala Standing Order 40 (b). Se o ka tlhalosa fa ka gore ga ke a utlwa sentle?” Ke letlelela gore a botswe dipotso. Nako le nako fa a sone se supplementary e se diretsweng. Ke sone se botswa… ke utlwile a araba Ramogapi a feta gore go supplementary go sa tlhokafaleng gore e tle e le potso ka bo go ilwe go sele. Ke mo solofeditse mo nakong e e ntšha. Fa e tla e le potso e ntšha, Tona kana ope yo e fetileng gore ke tlaa tswelela ke mmotsa dipotso go o arabang, o tshwanetse go supa gore moo ke potso e fitlhelela a amogela gore ke boikarabelo jwa gagwe go ntšha, it is not a supplementary. Ke arabile potso jaaka araba. e ntse.

Two questions that I want the VP to answer; a re go Go na le e nngwe ya Standing Order. Nnyaa, kana ke ne rekilwe dikoloi tse ka go ne go tshwenyegwa ka ke gakolola Ramogapi, ke dumalana le ene. E bile I am itshireletso ya ga Tautona morago ga ditlhopho tsa 2019, the first person mo potsong ya gago ya ntlha ke re ke ba lebeletse petitions. A re tender ya gore go rekiwe batla dipotso tseo tsa gago di tle di le dintsi. I am happy dikoloi e intshitswe ka September 2019. A se Mothusa to answer you and it gives me an opportunity go bolelela Tautona a se re bolelelang ke gore ba ne ba gakolotswe batho the truth, not the rhetoric e re tlholang re e utlwa pele ga ditlhopho gore go ya go nna modumo morago ga malatsi otlhe. Ke rata dipotso tse, di nthusa go tlhalosa ditlhopho, ba bo ba reka dikoloi tsa go itshireletsa ka ba se e leng boammaaruri. Fa le tlisa se dipampiri di se ne ba tshogile gore morago ga ditlhopho go ya go nna le buang go sena boammaaruri kwano le botsa ka sone, ke dikgang tsa petitions? A ke sone se a reng re se dumele tlaa araba gore Batswana ba itse se e leng boammaaruri, mo letsatsing la gompieno? e seng se se kwadiwang mo dipampiring se se senang boammaaruri. I do not have any problem with your Ya bobedi, o ne a bua kgantele ka the most expensive Vice questions Mr Leader of the Opposition. You can bring President. Ke batla go mmotsa gore ka fa a itseng ka teng as many questions as you want. I thank you. ka gore a re le ene o tlaabo a tsamaya ka armoured car, kwa ntle ga gagwe ke efe Vice President e e kileng ya E nngwe o ne a bua ka armoured cars. Ga go a twe Vice rekelwa armoured vehicle? Se se mo tshosang, se se mo President o ya go dirisa an armoured car. Ga go na gope rayang se re le ene botshelo jwa gagwe bo a tshosetswa fa ke dirisang an armoured car. I was giving an example ke eng? O bona eng se se tshosetsang botshelo jwa gore dilo tsa security di rekwa jaana go itsiwe gore le bo gago? Ke a leboga. Tautona ba ba tlang ba tlhokana le gore go nne le dilo tse di ntseng jalo. Security sotlhe sa ga Tautona, Mothusa MR TSOGWANE: Potso fa e arabiwa batho betsho e Tautona le VIPs se mo go ba DIS go bona gore ba se arabiwa in what in English is called “in the context.” tlhokomela jang. That does not necessarily mean gore Ga go reye gore fa ke supile examples tse dingwe go ke reketswe armoured cars. Ga go na armoured cars tsa raya gore ke tsone tse di bakileng seo. I was giving an ga VP mo go tsone. I thank you. example gore fa re bua ka tshireletsego ya ga Tautona, re LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (MR lebile diemo tse di farologanyeng. I was not necessarily SALESHANDO): Point of order Mr Speaker. The saying go rekilwe ka gore go ne go itsiwe gore morago Vice President a re supplementary ke ‘by the way,’ ga e ga ditlhopho go tlaa nna jaana. That was not the answer. tlhoke go arabiwa. E rile ke mmotsa gore matshwenyego I read the answer and those were supplementaries. So, a itshireletso ke eng, o file lebaka le le lengwefela. A stick to my text which I have read to you ka gore mo re matshwenyego a matona a bone a itshireletso fa ba ga supplementaries ke “Maokaneng.” Go tsewa kwa le lebile e ne e le maduo a ditlhopho tsa 2019 gore go ne kwa go bo go batlwa gore jaanong kgantele go bo gotwe ga nna le petitions. O file lebaka le le lengwefela gore go ne go builwe jaana go builwe jaana. Karabo e ke go ba tshwenyega ka botshelo jwa ga Tautona. Potso ya me e neetseng ke e ke e kwadileng e e tletseng. You must ke gore ka gore tender e ntshitswe ka September 2019, stick to it, jaaka o boditse dipotso tse o di boditseng. a ba ne ba setse ba itse gore go ya go nna le petitions? Gape supplementaries ga se sepe sa Standing Order. Fa e le gore a re ga se lone lebaka, ke kopa gore a re Supplementary e a bo e le go botsa fela, go tlaleletsa bolelele gore go fetogile eng se se ba tshwentseng ka mo go se o se boditseng. Ga se gore it orders gore it botshelo jwa ga Tautona gore ba ye go batla armoured necessarily has to be there as supplementaries. Potso vehicles di le fivedi dirisiwa ke motho a le mongwefela? ke e o e boditseng. Ke yone ke tshwanetseng go e araba. Ke a leboga.

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MR TSOGWANE: I think I have answered that one DIS e nna le budget ya dikoloi, mme go bo go nna le gore security sa ga Tautona is not situational. Security e e tlhokanang le gore ba rekele Tautona kana Mothusa sa ga Tautona se botlhokwa ka dinako tsotlhe; a go Tautona sengwe, e nna part of that budget. It does not ditlhopho kana eng. This is what I am saying. If I were to come isolated gotwe item e ke ya ga semangmang, e ke give an example, should I go and boil the ocean to give ya ga semangmang. the example? I should not. E nna plan ya dikoloi tsa bone tsa DIS, because dikoloi MR SALESHANDO: Ga se gore re tseye gore go tse even though di le kwa go Tautona kwa e le security padile Mr Speaker? Ga a ikaelele go araba. sa gagwe, ke tsa DIS. So, that we should understand. Ke a leboga. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, o arabile. MR MOTSAMAI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Sa ntlha MR REATILE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, ke latolele Rre Saleshando gore, ga gona karabo epe e mma ke go leboge le Mothusa Tautona ka dikarabo tse re tlaa e bonang fa, re shetla theledi. Ke bo ke tswelela a di ntshang le Leader of the Opposition gore a bo a ka gore Mr Speaker, Mothusa Tautona o ne a bua fa boditse potso go leka gore Batswana ba tle ba itse gore Mopalamente Ramogapi a bua ka kgang ya gore kana dilo go diragala eng mo lefatsheng la rona. Your Honour, ka tse di ne di le botlhokwa bogolo jang mo ditsamaisong fa dikoloi tse di rekwang ka teng, a ga o bone gore ke gone mo go tsosang tlhobaelo mo Batswaneng ka gore o tsa ba botsogo. A re madi a go rekilweng dikoloi ka one a itse, o mongwe wa batho ba bagologolo mo lefatsheng a ne a ka aga clinics tse kae? Se ke batlang gore ke se mo la Botswana le mo Palamenteng gore le nako ya fa go tsibose Mr Speaker ke gore, matshelo a a latlhegang ga rekiwa OK1, ke kgang e e builweng ke Palamente gore a tshwane le magasigasi a dikoloi a a tsenang a. Batho a go siame kana ga go a siama ka mabaka a a neng a ba a swa mo dikgaolong tsa rona go sena ditlamelo tsa ntshiwa? Fa e le gore go ya go rekwa koloi ya ga botsogo, so ga se kgang e e ka tshelwang metsi. Tautona, sephiri sa teng ke eng Your Honour ka gore Ya bobedi Mr Speaker, Mothusa Tautona a re batho ba kgang e e ne e tshwanetse go buiwa, Mapalamente ba bo tlhokomologe dikgang tsa maranyane le dipampiri, ka ba dumela gore go maleba? gore ga di ba fe mafoko a a leng boammaaruri. Ke batla gore ke mo reye ke re, re ne ra utlwa ka maranyane Gompieno jaana ga re maAmerika, mme re itse gore le dipampiri gore o ya go nna Mothusa Tautona. Ke koloi ya ga Joe Biden e na le eng tsa itshireletso. Re itse mmotse gore a ga se Mothusa Tautona? E nngwe ke ya gore blood groups tsa gagwe di tsentswe mo koloing. gore, re utlwile ka maranyane le dipampiri gore go ya go Sephiri se se kanakana mo dikgannyeng tsa rona ke sa seegelwa fa thoko Rre Majaga le Rre Reatile. A batho eng motlotlegi? A ga o bone e le sone se se simolotseng bao ga ba a seegelwa fa thoko? Se maranyane a neng a tlhobaelo ka gore re itse ka budget ya dikoloi tsa DIS ka se bua. gore fa re tsaya dibuka tsa Annual Statement of Accounts HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)... (ASA), o tlaa bona gore financial year e e neng e fela ka March 2019, they budgeted P5,374,118.00? Ke tsone HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, ke kopa go dikoloi tse ba tswang go di reka gotwe “DIS vehicles.” tlhalosetswa tsamaiso. Jaanong tse tsa ga President, re ka bona fa kae fa go MR SPEAKER: Leader of the House. tlaabong gotwe “the Presidential vehicles,” gore re tle re itse gore indeed budget e ya P12 million e go buiwang MR TSOGWANE: Jaaka le utlwa le batlotlegi … ka yone e tsene gone foo? Ke a leboga motlotlegi. (Inaudible)…Mr Speaker…

MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Go MR HIKUAMA: Procedure. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, botlhokwa e bile go maleba jaaka o botsa sir. Se ke batla go tlhalosetswa tsamaiso. Ya ntlha ke gore, se botlhokwa jaaka o le mogologolo le nna ke le Mothusa Tautona a re dipotso tsa supplementary fa a di mogologolo, dilo tse re ne re di bua kwa oversight ya araba, ga a a tsenya mashetla e bile o araba fela. A mme DIS, re sa tsenelele mo operations tsa yone, re bua dilo go mo tsamaisong gore re botse dipotso tse re itseng tse di tshwanang le tse, re kgona to be briefed properly gore ga di na boleng, re bo re tswelela re tsaya nako, ke Director wa DIS. Re na le oversight committee, ba Vice President a letleletswe gore ene o araba hela, ka tshwanetse to briefed ka kgang e e ntseng jaana gore gore ke supplementaries ga se main question? Ke potso ba e utlwe sentle, e le matlho le ditsebe tsa rona. Fa ya ntlha gore o ntlhalosetse tsamaiso.

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Ya bobedi ke gore Mr Speaker, o ne wa tlhalosa fa gore Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Rre Motsamai, re tlaa tswelela tsamaiso ya go tsholetsa matsogo, re tsholetsa potso e re ntse re leba re tlhotlhomisa tse di kwalwang le tse re arabilwe, fa e arabiwa re a diga. Re leka go diga those of di utlwang. Re tlaa nna re tswelela re araba. Ke a leboga. us who are complying, go lebega tsamaiso e e re baya ka fa mosing, ka gore rona re a diga fa potso e arabiwa. Fa MR NKAWANA: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Mma le re re re a tsholetsa, go tlaabo go setse go na le ba ba sa nna ke leboge dikarabo tsa ga Mothusa Tautona le fa bolong go tsholetsa. Ga ke itse gore a mme tsamaiso e o di sa kgotsofatse. Ke botse gore, a ke mo utlwa sentle e lebelela sentle gore go tsamaya jang foo? Ke a leboga. gore a re ba tsere ditshwetso ka dingwaga tseo lefatshe le santse le le mo tshiamong? Gompieno re le mo MR SPEAKER: Ke tlaa e ela thoko, ka gore batho ga mathateng a COVID-19 le tlhaelo ya ledi la Batswana, a ba a tshwanela gore bone ba sale ba le on screen, go bo Mothusa Tautona a re o bona go siame fela e bile ga a ka go tsewa gore o kare ba tsile pele, ga se gone. ke a sekaseka ditshwetso tsa bone, ka gore madi ao ba ne ba ise ba a dirise? Ke botsa potso e Mothusa Tautona Ka dikarabo tsa ga Leader of the House, ga gona ka gore, unless we are a suicidal nation, a e kare o tswa karabo e go ka tweng ke le fa ke latlhelela. Ke ne ke fa o ya Francistown, o bo o fitlhela noka e tletse go sena mo tlhaloganya gore a re, tse dingwe dipotso ga se tse a le fa o ka tsenyang leoto teng, o bo o re nnyaa kana ke bonang e le tse di latelang ditsamaiso tse di kwadilweng sale ke tsaya tshwetso ya gore ke ya Francistown pula mo bukaneng ya Standing Orders. Le gore ke tse di e ise e ne, jaanong ke itatlhela fela? A ga gona gore o salwang ke karabo e e filweng, go tlhalosa gore motho ka boela kwa morago o re, mma ke letele metsi a fete a utlwisise, e seng gore o tlaa latlhelela, ka gore ga gona gope fa motho a nang le tetla ya go latlhelela mo kgotsa ke thuse seemo sa gore mathata a re mo go one re karabong. …(Inaudible)… tswe mo go one? Ke tsaya gore o ntlhalogantse Mothusa Tautona, ke a leboga. MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Nnyaa, mme o tlhaloseditse Rre Hikuama sentle, ke motho MR TSOGWANE: Ke a go tlhaloganya Rre Nkawana, yo o utlwang ka bonako. Tse tsa ga Motsamai, le potso ya gago e maleba. Fela ke gore go pharologanyo, utlwile le lona e re a sena go botsa Ntlo yotlhe e bo dilo tse dingwe fa o di reka jaaka gongwe armored e swa ka ditshego. Go raya gore ga se nna fela yo ke vehicles, they are designed at your own specifications gakgamalang e bile ke tshega, Ntlo yotlhe e ne e sule that are fit for the job. Ke gore o a bo o isitse tse o di ka ditshego a sena go nna a botsa a re dipampiri tse di tlhokang mo dikoloing tseo, o ntshitse le deposit. Gore kile tsa bua tsa re. Pampiri Rre Motsamai, ga o bona e fela jaanong o bo o tla o welwa ke seru, fa gongwe go ya go bua selo se bo se tla se nna jalo, o bo o itse gore ya go nna thata, unless you negotiate the payments gore go na le mo gotweng leaks, ke gore information e a bo jaanong o tlaa tswelela o duela ka iketlo jang, ka gore o e le leaked. Motho a tshwana le Motsamai jaana, o a bo wetswe ke seru. Fela to cancel that order, o a bo o itse a tswa go utswa information mo ofising a bo a e neela gore o ya go latlhegelwa ke madi, one a o a ntshitseng a dipampiri. Ke gone fela fa pampiri e ka buang se se deposit. Golo moo go a bo go diretswe (designed) wena, nang le boammaaruri. Otherwise they are not prophetic, ga go tshwane le koloi e ke yang kwa Motor Centre e ga ba ka ke ba porofita gore go ya go diragala se, ga le mo showroom, ke bo ke re ke batla go reka koloi ke go ye go diragala se. Ke yone kgang e re e kgalemang e, ke bo ke e reka. Ke yone pharologanyo e e leng teng. letsatsi le letsatsi gore, a information e e sa direlwang Mo gongwe gape, go na le ditshwetso tse re di boetseng ba ba sa tshwanelang go e itse, e tlogele go fetisetswa morago batho betsho, le setšhaba se tshwanetse gore se kwa bathong bao ke batho ba ba sa tshwanelang. Legale itse. Go na le gripens tse go kileng ga buiwa ka tsone, Rre Motsamai o ka tlhalosa botoka gore ba itse jang tse mo nakong ya Tautona wa pele di neng di tshwanetse gore go ya go diragala jalo, potso eo re ka e botsa wena. go ya go rekiwa. Tshwetso ya gripens re ne ra e boela Fela rona re itse gore dilo tse dingwe tse ba di buang, kwa morago, re lebile seemo se sa gore ga re ka ke ra ya di dintsi tse le rona re ka fang examples tse ba a bong go duela financial budgets tsa dingwaga di ka nna tharo ba abelela fela go sa nna jalo. Fa e leng gore ba itaya re ntse re duelela dilo, mme lefatshe le le mo mathateng. kgomo lenaka, nnyaa go a bo go na le sengwe se se a bong se diragetse. Motho mongwe o kile a bua in one Le a itse gore gripens tseo ga re a ka ra di reka. Ba ba of our sessions a re, “it is an intelligent guess,” go na le neng ba le teng, ba a itse gore kgang ya gripens e ne golo gatwe intelligent guess, gongwe ba a bo ba wetse e ntse jang, ga ba ga tsamaiwa tsa ya go bonwa, e le gone foo. gore tota e ne e le gore go dirwe thulaganyo ya gore di

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rekiwe. Tautona Masisi ka go lebelela seemo, le go bona MR KAPINGA: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mothusa gore ga go botlhokwa gore gripens di rekiwe, re ne ra Tautona, re a dumalana gore you appreciate gore dipotso boela kgang ya gripens kwa morago. Ke a leboga. tse di bodiwang tse, di bodiwa on the basis ya gore re batla good governance mo lefatsheng la rona; selo sa DR TSHABANG: Thank you Mr Speaker. Your Honour, potso ya me e mo mading… ntlha. Jaanong potso ya me ke gore rra, ke go utlwile o re fa go rekiwa dikoloi tse, e ne e le dithulaganyo MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN tsa DIS. Jaanong ke batla go go botsa gore fa o re ke TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR dithulaganyo tsa DIS jaana, a o raya gore fa ba tla ba MOAGI): On a point of procedure. Thank you Mr raya Tautona ba re re ya go go rekela dilo tse, Tautona Speaker. I was looking at the Order Paper and it says ga a na thata ya go ba raya a re, “nnyaa se direng jalo, that Leader of the House’s question time is up to 11:45. I was just checking whether we are on track. Thank you le tlaabo le sa dirise madi a setšhaba sentle?” Ke potso Mr Speaker. ya me ya ntlha.

MR SPEAKER: I will check. The agreement from Ya bobedi, naare matshosetsi a gotweng a lebagane the General Assembly was that today; two hours are Tautona a, a ga a a bolelelwa? Ene e le Tautona, ga a devoted to question time. Only if we finish earlier, we kgona go tsaya tshwetso gore, “nnyaa, mme matshosetsi are going to look for other things. a le a buang a, ga ke bone a justify gore go ka senngwa DR TSHABANG: Thank you Mr Speaker. Your Honour, madi a a kanakana… kana wa re go dirisitswe P12 million; potso ya me ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… gore, a ke one madi otlhe because go na le dikgang tsa gore go santse go tlile go tsenngwa dilo dingwe, gadgets MR SPEAKER: Who gave you the floor? mo dikoloing tsone tse and it will raise the money to about P70 million. So that P12 million yo o mmuang MR KAPINGA: …(Laughter!)… O tshameketse ruri wena, ga re na madi a mangwe that we are going to monna yo. Potso ya me Mr Speaker, e ne e le gore naare spend on top of that? Re feletse gone foo kana re santse ene Tautona, fa one matshosetsi a a nna teng, ke a e re ya to spend, re tsenya yone metswakonyana e DIS e e boeletsa, ga a bolelelwe a bo a itseela tshwetso ka bo batlang to raise the money to amount P70 million jaaka ene gore a ke matshosetsi a a leng teng ka boammaaruri? reports di bua? Thank you. E bile e le matshosetsi that can justify expenditure e go tsenweng mo go yone. MR TSOGWANE: Rraetsho Dr Tshabang, jaaka ke bua, nna fela in my understanding, ga ke bone gore fa e Ya bofelo, o bua gore batho ba ka bo ba tsene mo le gore go na le extras tse di ka tsenngwang, they can go Komiting ya DIS, ba ka bo ba boleletswe dilo tse kwa to that margin ya gore go ye go nna bo P70 million, no. It komiting. A o raya gore Komiti ya DIS, e botlhokwa go does not make sense. Ke raya gore at least to me, it does feta Palamente ya lefatshe la Botswana gore ke yone e e not make sense. Fa e le gore go ka oketsega, go ka nna nang le tshwanelo ya go ka bolelelwa dilo tse di rileng? ga oketsega go se kae, mme fela ka re the total budget, Palamente ya Botswana, ya batho ba ba tlhophilweng kana when you budget, o a itse gore o tlile go dira kana ke Batswana, o raya gore ga ba na tshwanelo ya gore ba o tsenya eng mo koloing. So fa e le gore ga di tsenngwe botse dikgang tse di tshwanang le tse on behalf of the koo, of course go tlaa nna le extra amount, fa e le gore nation? Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. di ne di sa tshwanela gore di bo di tla di tsenyeditswe ruri. Kana the same papers tse o di buang, bangwe ba re MR SPEAKER: Leader of the House! ba bone gore gatwe go tsentswe eng, go dirwa eng mo koloing e. So that again confuses. Jaanong ke bua fela …Silence… ka budget ya DIS, e ba yang go reka dikoloi ka yone; HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… the total ke yone e ke le e neetseng. Jaanong extras fa e le gore ke tsone tse di yang go nna P70 million, it would MR SPEAKER: VP! not really make sense to me. Ke a leboga. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kapinga followed by… Tlhalosetsa Ambassador gore dikomiti di dira eng. the next person does not qualify. Honourable Kapinga would be the last one. …Silence…

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… …Silence…

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga a itse dilo tsa Sekgoa MR SPEAKER: Re na le mathata golo fa. What is tse. happening to the VP?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Healy, akere ke …Silence… wena Modulasetilo wa komiti ya…(Inaudible)… MR TSOGWANE: … ka dinako le seemo se e leng MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, ga go utlwale e bile ya gore gompieno dikoloi kana di a dirisiwa. Ke didirisiwa bofelo ga e a utlwala but ke ne ke utlwa e le gore o bua tse di dirisiwang, tse di fetogang ka dinako. We must gore a Batswana ga ba a tshwanela go utlwa ka dikgang know gore batho ba ba diphatsa mo security, le bone tse di bodiwa. Ga re gane, ke sone se o bonang dikgang ba a ithuta. They are advanced. Ga se motho fela yo o ordinary. We must match with times and then re bone tse di bodiwa. gore Tautona wa rona o sireletsegile. Legale go mo …Silence… Batswaneng fa e le gore ba re, Tautona wa rona a nne fela jaaka ba bangwe ba bua. Ba kganetso ba bua gore a MR TSOGWANE: Ke a utlwala Mr Speaker? tsamaye fela, fa e le gore o bolawa ke batho, a bolawe ke batho ga go re sepe. Go mo Batswaneng, ke bone ba ba MR SPEAKER: Yes, sir. tlhophileng, ba itse gore lefatshe la bone ba batla le nna stable go le kae. I do not understand this thinking. Ke a MR TSOGWANE: Ee, ke ne ke re ya bofelo, le fa e ne leboga Mr Speaker. e sa utlwale sentle, tota ga gona ope yo o ganetsanang le gore go ka bodiwa kana Batswana ba utlwa gore QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER go bodiwa dilo tse le bone di ba tshwenyang. Fela ke MR SPEAKER: Let us move on. Honourable Member tlhalose ya gore batho ba tlhaloganye gore fa go tsewa for Palapye, Honourable Ramogapi. dikgato, di a bo di tsewa ka mabaka afe. …Silence… Rre Kapinga ke mongwe wa batho ba e reng fa re bua ka security, o se tlhaloganya go menagane go fetisa mongwe MR SPEAKER: Can you unmute yourself Honourable le mongwe yo o mo Palamenteng. Le bogakolodi o a itse Ramogapi? gore o gakolotse bo Tautona ga kae, ke dife ditshwetso tse e rileng a ba gakolola ba di tsaya, ke dife tse ba neng …Silence… ba seka ba di tsaya. So tota he must know better than MR SPEAKER: Honourable Ramogapi, you should anybody else. Tota fa ke re ke araba kgang ya gagwe e, unmute on the… e tlaabo e le letsapa fela. Ke tsaya gore o a tlhaloganya gore fa o gakololwa ka security o se motho wa security MR RAMOGAPI: …(Inaudible)… le intelligence, o tshwanetse go reetsa bagakolodi bao. MR SPEAKER: Listen! Listen first! Listen! Unless you have other sources of information that counter se gongwe se buiwang. Otherwise, security is MR RAMOGAPI: …(Inaudible)… very important. Ke tseela gore o a itse fela gore security MR SPEAKER: Listen! Unmute on the icon which has of the President is a security of the nation. Instability e e been sent to you. Something has been sent to you. Click ka bakiwang ke dilo ka security e ntsi and I will give him on that one which has been sent to you. It has just been an example. Fa go tlaa tla go buiwa ka September 11, sent to you. you know better Rre Kapinga gore batho ba intelligence ba lefatshe leo, ba ne ba tlhalositse, go bo go sa tsewe MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Mr tsia, mme September 11 ya diragala. Only later to say, Speaker, re ntse re leka to unmute jalo. Ba rata to mute kana mme intelligence e ne e tlhagisitse selo se. So these batho ba. Thank you Mr Speaker. Question number 1. things, we must know them better as politicians gore ga …Silence… o ka ke wa ganetsana fela le dilo tsa security. Ke sone se ke neng ke go fa sekai ka yone; September 11, the HONOURABLE MEMBER: Jaanong ke di sele, le United States of America (USA). Ga se gore security se letsatsi leno gape. ne se sa gakolola golo moo, jaanong fa e kare o le motho o gakololwa ke batho… …Silence …

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: E tlaa feta. specific working knowledge of best practices examples from other countries, in respect of MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister of Finance and a mixed model. This is something that we are Economic Development! working on.

(ii) In line with Government employment policies …Silence … specifically the Attraction and Retention Directive UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO GENERAL No. 2 of 2008, all Government doctors are paid a scarce skill allowance at 40 per cent and private PRACTITIONERS practice at 10 per cent. Nurses who hold a post MR T. LETSHOLO (KANYE NORTH): asked the basic qualification are paid an allowance at 10 per Minister of Health and Wellness whether subject to cent of the salary. Other health care professionals managing conflict of interest, it is feasible for the purpose such as pharmacists, dietitians, laboratory of enabling universal access to General Practitioners scientists, and physiotherapists etcetera are also for the ministry to allow private General Practitioners paid scarce skill allowance. to consult at Government clinics and hospitals; and to MR LETSHOLO: Supplementary. Ke a go leboga further state: Tona ka karabo eo. Ke botse gore, go ya ka wena fa o lebile, o bona gore baagi ba Ranaka, Mmasenyetse, (i) what viable best practice examples he can share boora Kgokgonyane, ba e leng gore dikago tsa Puso ba from other countries for this model; and na le tsone mme ba tlhaela ka bongaka, ba ka e solofela (ii) what retention incentives exist for talented doctors, leng go bona tsamaiso e, e goroga kwa dikgaolong tsa nurses and other professionals in Government bone? healthcare. Sa bobedi, fa re lebile moono wa gore re dirise thata ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND state-owned assets, re lebile dikago e le sekai, o bona tsa botsogo di ka tsenya letseno le le kae mo Pusong fa di WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you dirisiwa ke ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi e le dingaka jaaka Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, Honourable Member of o ntse o fa sekai? Ke a leboga. Parliament (MP) asked if it is feasible, and consistent with our ongoing efforts to facilitate Universal MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke Healthcare Coverage (UHC). lebile Mopalamente wa Ranaka a bua ka dikgaolo tsa We believe that this strategic direction is the most gagwe gore gongwe fa re dirisa tsamaiso e, ba ka bona sustainable way forward when one considers the leng tsa bongaka. Re supe jalo gore tota gompieno Botswana Government’s policy framework. The lefatshe la Botswana le na le tlhaelo e ntsi ya dingaka, framework embraces partnerships and collaboration in both in the Government and private sector. Re tsweletse delivering cost-effective services and products. re le Goromente go bona ba ba ikemetseng kwa mafelong a a kwa tengnyanateng, a a kgakalanyana le ditlamelo or A general limitation of resources, plus the importance of ba ba kgonang e re fa butse koo, we can still use them. using any excess capacity in either, or both, the public When we plan for our strategy as a ministry, re leke go and private sectors makes it imperative that favourable dirisa maranyane go goroga kwa go leng thata teng. Fa consideration be made and applied sooner, rather than re bua ka go dirisa dikago tsa ga Goromente re le ba later. botsogo, ke dumela gore go ka direla Goromente madi In this context, it is worth noting that specialist services fa re ka letlelela dingaka tse di ikemetseng gore ba di like cardiac surgeries, cardiology or oncology consults, dirise. Ke mogopolo o re o amogelang. Ke a leboga. orthopaedics and nephrology have been performed by INVESTOR FOR TATI NICKEL MINE private medical specialists in Government facilities. MR W. B. MMOLOTSI (FRANCISTOWN The strategic direction to which I have just alluded is SOUTH): asked the Minister of Mineral Resources, work in progress. So, I cannot answer conclusively at Green Technology and Energy Security to update this this point, but can update as follows: - Honourable House on progress of identifying and (i) The ministry is aware of, but does not have any getting an investor for Tati Nickel mine.

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MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN ke to test dilo, a tseye samples, drill fale le fale, a dire TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR metallurgical tests, a bone le tsone dikago gore a di MOAGI): Thank you Mr Speaker. Hopefully I am santse di ikemetse sentle, a bone gore ke dife pipes tse di audible that side. tlhokang go baakangwa, fela le jalo gore a tle a re neele offer. Re solofela gore tse tsotlhe di tlaabo di diregile ka MR SPEAKER: You are. kgwedi ya Lwetse gone mo ngwageng o. I thank you MR MOAGI: Thank you for the question Honourable Mr Speaker. Mmolotsi, I will quickly go through it in English, and MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr then a small summary in Setswana at the end. Speaker. Gongwe Tona, o re tlhalosetse gore, ene yo le Mr Speaker, BCL Group of Companies comprising setseng le mo tlhophile, yo o tshwanelwang ke go tlisa BCL Limited, BCL Investments and Tati Nickel Mining offer ultimately, a le ikgotsofaditse, kgotsa liquidator o Company, were placed under provisional liquidation ikgotsofaditse gore o na le madi a go reka? Le kwa ntle by the High Court of Botswana on the 9th of October ga madi a go reka, a o na le madi a to mine, kana ke 2016 as a result of low mineral commodity prices and motho yo e tlaa reng a sena go neelwa offer, e bo e le other economic reasons. BCL Limited was put in final gore o ka kgona go duela fela, mme a bo a simolola liquidation on the 15th of June 2017, while Tati Nickel gore nnyaa, ke santse ke batla madi a mining, e bo e Mining Company was only placed in final liquidation le gore moepo o o tswelela ka go diega, jaaka re bona on the 27th of February 2019. In July of 2019, the initial go diragetse kwa moepong mongwe kwa Tswapong o o neng wa rekisiwa? liquidator for BCL Group of Companies resigned, and the Master and Registrar of the High Court appointed Sa bobedi ke gone gore, ka gore ga le ise le wele ka new liquidators. The liquidators then opened the data kompone e le reng e setse e ile go sekaseka mo mine, a room for potential investors to access information so as ga o bone gore gongwe e ka bo stage seo le tsentse all to submit offers. The liquidator set end of June 2020 as the three preferred companies gore e tle e re fa e nngwe deadline for submission of offers. e palelwa, tota re bo re sa diege ka go simolola re boela kwa go tse pedi tsele, e bo e le gore tota ka nako yone Mr Speaker, the liquidators for BCL and Tati received eo, ke kgang fela ya gore re bo re re nnyaa, ka wena ga three indicative offers for the assets, and completed o kgone, go raya gore a re tseye e. evaluation of the offers in order to recommend a preferred bidder who would then be granted a period Ke buisiwa se ke gore, go ema go fitlhelelatwo years yo of exclusivity within which to conduct a due diligence mongwe gape, meepo e e tsweletse ka go senyega, mo e before concluding the purchase agreed. The liquidators leng gore gongwe e tlaa re mongwe a tla go e tsaya, e bo have had preliminary engagements of the preferred e le mo seemong se se bokete thata go ka o busetsa mo bidder who requires an exclusive period of about six tirisong. Ke a leboga. months to carry out detailed due diligence in order to submit a firm of the liquidators. It is expected that the MR MOAGI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke leboge firm offer would be submitted by September 2021. It Motlotlegi Mmolotsi. Gongwe ke e simolole kwa must be noted Mr Speaker, that this period of exclusivity motsheo kwa o neng o wela teng ke re, kana fa o bona involves going beyond the data room and could include liquidator a ne a ba tsere ka boraro jwa bone, ba bo ba but not limited to legal due diligence drilling, sample baya boipapatsi jwa bone mo pampering, gore nnyaa tests, metallurgy, engineering audits on all structures mme nna fa ke bone; ka gore ba ne ba lebile sengwe le etcetera, in a press to move quickly into production. To sengwe se se teng kwa moepong, se se supang gore fa assess the authenticity of the structures that have been ke lebile tse ke di lebileng, le mealo e le e nneetseng, standing for a long time is very key for the safety of ke bona ke ka tla ka sele se. So, e ne e le gone gore mo people and machinery. offers tsa bone tse ba di bayang, ba bo ba supa gore mme nna ke tla tsenya bokana jwa madi mo teng ga se ke Ka bokhutshwane Mr Speaker ke re, liquidator o setse a tlaabong ke se dira, ke bo ke kgona go dirisa tse le tse. bone mongwe yo e leng gore jaanong o tlhoka nakwana Jaanong ke ne ke re, mme mo teng ga lona le le bararo, e e ka tshwarang dikgwedi tse thataro gore a kgone ke ya go tsaya a le mongwefela yo o tlaa nneelang offer go tsenelela ko teng. Kana lantlha o ne a lebile fela e e keteng e na le matute a a botoka. Ke sone se se neng dipampiri tse di teng le mealo, jaanong o tshwanelwa sa direga fa, ka gore fa le compete, le tla tshwanelwa ke

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gore jaanong labofelo go bo go tsewa a le mongwefela. le gore conclusion ke gore I am stopping here, I cannot Jaanong ba setse ba tlile mo stage sa gore go tsewe a move forward, e bo e le gore yo mongwe gongwe o le mongwefela, ke ene yo o tlaa bong a na le nako ya ka tla ka offer e e botoka ya gore nnyaa nna mme ke gagwe, a sa kgorelediwe ke ba bangwe ba emeng fa a tswelela? The most important thing that I want to godimo ga legetla la gagwe. A tle a bone gore jaanong know ke gore o itse eng ka North American Nickel and le fa a dira drilling jalo, metallurgical tests, kana sepe investment in Premium Nickel Sources? fela se a tlaabong a se dira, a bo a le nosi, a ikgotsofatsa. MR MOAGI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke lebogele Jaanong gore go bo gotwe go fitlheletswe kwa go yo potso eo ya ga Rre Keorapetse. A re e simolole kwa mongwefela yo, ke gore o ne a supile gone gore kana principle fela ya gore o bo o bitsa baikopedi, lotlhe le go na le tse ke tlaa di dirang, e bile ke setse ke na le neelwa se se tshwanang at the start, le bo le simolola madi ke a, a ke tlileng go dira tiro e ya due diligence le tlhotlha sengwe le sengwe se le batlang go se tlhotla ya six months. Ba bangwe ba ne ba sa supe jalo, ba ne mo teng ga dilo tseo. The three preferred bidders tse le ba batla gore ba neelwe moepo jaaka o ntse jalo, mme ba sa ntshe kana ba supa sepe se ba tlang ba se tshotse. buang ka tsone, including ba bangwe ba ba neng ba le So, ke sone se se neng sa farologanya baikopedi ba ba teng, ba ne ba neelwa information yotlhe e e teng, e e ntseng jalo. leng gore even this preferred bidder, o e neetswe. Gatwe itsatsankeng, le re bolelele gore lona fa le ka tsaya Ga re dumele gore a motho o ka batla go senya nako fela moepo mo go se le setseng le se bone, le se bontshitswe, a re o batla mine mme a sena maikaelelo a a kalo. Bogolo ke eng. Ba supa gore we want to buy moepo for this. O a jang a setse a supile le ka madi a gagwe mo indicative bona? Ba bangwe ba supa maikaelelo a a tletseng a gore offer gore o tlaa dira jang, e bile a supile le gore madi ao re tlaabo re tsenya se le se mo teng ga theko e re e dirang a kwa account efe, mo gotweng expo account. Jaanong ya BCL kana Tati. Jaanong golo mo kana ke gone mo ke sone se o bonang se re neela kgothatso le tsholofelo go go rayang gore maikaelelo le tsholofelo nngwe ke e, ya gore motho yo o tlaa dira se a se dirang, le fa a ka se jaanong neela yo, yo re bonang a na le maikaelelo a a ka a tsaya mine otlhe, mme o tlaa felela a tsere dintlha botoka go bona gore o ya kae. dingwe. Go ne go na le criteria rra, e e tsenyang dilo di le dintsi Se se tlaabong se dirwa gape through the liquidator ke from the technical, as well as from the financial side, gore, ga re ne re dira tse di neng di ntse di a tle di dirwe tsa gore when they now assess dikopo tse, they assess ke bangwe, jaaka o ne o supa sekai sa Lerala le another them ba lebile eng. Se setona gape e le gore a mo teng ...(inaudible)… scheme kwa South Africa, kwa e leng ga di Curriculum Vitae (CV) kana batho ba ba tlaabong gore e ne ya re motho a sena go nna a neelwa mine, a bo ba tla go dira, ba na le kitso e e kae ya mining. Le yone a ya go kgabetla tsotlhe tse a neng a bona gore di ka mo kompone e e tlaabong e le teng, e na le experience e neela madi, di le bogadi bo gaufi, a bo a tswa a tsamaya. e kae ya mining. Dilo tse tsotlhe tse, di tlhotlhilwe ka Jaanong go na le ditsetla dingwe tse re tlaabong re di gore di ne di sa dirwe ke liquidator e bile, o ne a hirile tsentse mo molaong, le mo tumalanong epe fela gore bangwe ba ba rutetsweng go tlhotlha dilo tse tsa moepo. dilo tseo di seka tsa direga, sengwe sone se felele se Ba ne ba kgona go mo neela report e e ntseng jalo, e nna teng mo teng ga theko eo ya mine. Ke a leboga Mr re neng ra e lebelela, ra e itumelela ka fa re neng re e Speaker. neelwa ka teng.

MR KEORAPETSE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Jaanong ke wela mo go reng, North American Nickel; Honourable Minister, gongwe o ka re tlhalosetsa gore, ke ne ke solofetse gore mo nakong ya gompieno, kitsiso this preferred bidder, a ke ene North American Nickel? e tlaabo e setse e dule, mme legale go raya gore jaaka Sa bobedi, o bo o ka tlhalosa gore a mme yone North go na le ditsamaiso tse dingwe tse di farologaneng at American Nickel e na le bokgoni jwa madi jwa go ka the liquidator and from Master of the High Court, le reka moepo le go o tsamaisa? Le gore ke stages tse kae ka kwano at the ministry, re tlaa wela mo go yone. Se tse di yang go rurifatsa theko; ke gore stages di kae that se teng fela ke gore the preferred bidder, ke Premium will determine finality ya gore this company will buy Nickel Resources, yo le ene a supileng ka ikopelo ya and operate the mine or not? Ke e nyalanya le e e neng gagwe; proposal ya gagwe gore ba tlaabo ba tsaya kae e botswa ke Honourable Mmolotsi gore why not have madi jalo le jalo. Gape fa ba sena go dira this tiro e ya more than one ba dira ditshekatsheko tseo so that fa e due diligence in the exclusivity period, ba tlaabo ba

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supa gape gore how do they reach financial close. Madi MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga a mangwe a tlaabong a tlhokwa gore a tlhabolole, ba Mr Speaker. Tona, kante ke eng go tsaya lebaka le le tlaabo ba a bona kae? Ke yone e e ka tsenang, e tlaabo e kanakana gore go kabiwe positions tse e leng gore either direga mo nakong yone ya six months. batho ba a bo ba dule mo go tsone, kana they exist ka mabaka a a farologaneng? Ke eng go ka tsaya two years Sengwe le sengwe se ka direga Honourable Keorapetse gore such positions di bo di ka kabiwa? Go pala eng, go le wena Honourable Mmolotsi sa gore a e tlaa re kwa a bo go tlhaela eng mo tsamaisong? Golo mo go ama pheletsong, ba re nnyaa, ke tswelela le tiro kana ga re service delivery. tswelele le tiro. Se ke neng ke se bua ke gore, ga re solofele gore e ka re motho a sena go supa ditsela tse MR MMUSI: Mongwame, mo kgannyeng e e fa, ke sa di ntseng jalo, e bile a re supegeditse le bontlha bongwe generalise, process ya interviews e ne ya se ka ya salwa jwa madi, a bo a boela kwa morago ka tsela e e ntseng morago sentle kwa ntlheng, mme ra tshwanelwa ke go jalo. If it happens, then Goromente kana e santse e le ene e simolola sesha gore re kgone to appoint the proper a tshotseng licence eo ya moepo, re tlaabo re itse gore CEO. Jaanong mme jaaka ke solofetse, re dirile sengwe go tlaa diregang thereafter. A re nneng ka tsholofelo, re le sengwe, e bile ke dumela gore mo kgweding e ya se ka ra nna ka go e tlhoka. Ke a leboga. March, CEO o tlaabo a setse a le mo teng. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. ACTING APPOINTMENT AT LEGAL AID BOTSWANA MILK DEMAND IN BOTSWANA

MR P. P. P. MOATLHODI (TONOTA): asked the MR A. LESASO (SHOSHONG): asked the Minister Minister of Defence, Justice and Security to confirm of Agricultural Development and Food Security: whether he is aware of two officers at Legal Aid Botswana who have been acting as Chief Executive (i) how much is the milk demand in Botswana per Officer and Chief Legal Aid Counsel respectively for day; almost two years and if so: (ii) how much of the domestic market is supplied by (i) what is the hold up in appointing them; and local suppliers;

(ii) such protracted delays in appointing them does (iii) how much is imported; and not demotivate and heavily frustrate them. (iv) what is Government doing to close the gap and MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND ensure self-sufficiency. SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr Speaker. MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL Mr Speaker, I am aware that the position of Chief DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR Executive Officer (CEO) of Legal Aid is vacant, and the GARE): Good afternoon Mr Speaker. Thank you Chief Legal Counsel has been appointed to act as Chief Honourable Member for the question. The answer is Executive Officer pending appointment of the CEO. that; (i) The appointment of Chief Executive Officer of Legal Aid Botswana is the prerogative of (i) The annual demand for milk in Botswana is 65 the Minister responsible for Defence, Justice million litres, which translates to 178,000 litres and Security, in consultation with the board as per day. provided in Section 19 of the Legal Aid Act. (ii) The local suppliers supply 22,192 litres per day to (ii) The delay in filling the vacancy is due to previous the domestic market. This is as per the 2019/2020 protracted recruitment processes, which had to figures. be invalidated and restarted because the process was not satisfactory. However, I am happy to (iii) The monthly milk imports are 4,4 million litres, inform this Honourable House that Legal Aid which is about 146,685 litres of milk per day. Botswana has forwarded recommendations for Again, this is also as per the 2019/2020 figures. my consideration, and I am confident that the recruitment will be finalised by March 2021. I (iv) Government has initiated the following to facilitate thank you. development of the dairy sub-sector:

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• Small scale dairy farmers have been facilitated ya mashi mo Botswana. Milk Afric go bokgakala bo to form Dairy Cooperatives and Agricultural le kae gore e ka kgona go simolola go tlisa mashi mo Management Associations throughout the districts, lefatsheng la Botswana? E nngwe potso ke gore small to facilitate collection and marketing of their scale cooperatives tse a buang ka tsone tse di leng teng milk. These cooperatives include Mmadinare, mo Botswana, ba di thusitse go le kae e le Puso gore ba Thamalakane, Gaborone, Pitsane and Serowe. kgone go oketsa letseno la mashi mo Botswana, ka gore tlhaelo e o kare e ntse e a oketsega? Fa ke bua gompieno, • Government has also through the Financial example e e teng kwa Serowe…(Inaudible)… plant ya Assistance Policy (FAP), assisted farmers to Serowe e ne tshwanetse gore e tlise mashi a a kanaka purchase dairy cattle, feed, milking equipment and 8 000 litres per day, mme gompieno re mo go 350. Ke construction of milking parlours. The majority of botsa gore a mme go supa tlhaelo e e oketsega kana e the existing small scale dairy projects were funded fokotsega? Ke kopa a kgone go tlhalosa dipotso tseo. Ke through the FAP programme, which ended in the a leboga Mr Speaker. year 2000. MR GARE: Thank you Mr Speaker, ke a go leboga • The Government through Article 26 of Infant Honourable Member. Ke simolole fela ka go amogela Industry Protection of the Southern African Customs gore the dairy sub sector ke nngwe ya the sectors tse Union (SACU) Agreement, is imposing a 40 per cent di aparetsweng ke dikgwetlho di le dintsi thata. One of tariff on imports of Ultra-High Temperature (UHT) those challenges ke gore, re le Botswana ga re kgone go processing milk from the region. This is meant to itirela kana go iketshetsa dikgomo tsa mashi, because reduce external competition against the local dairy obviously for us to be able gore re nne le dikgomo tse sub-sector and promote its growth. This dispensation di ntshang mashi a mantsi, ke gore le rona gongwe has been in place for the past 13 years. multiplication kana go di ntsifatsa ga tsone re bo re • Implementation of the Dairy Development Strategy kgona go go dira locally. For example Milk Afric at of 2013 is on-going and several initiatives are being some point ba ne ba tshwanetse gore ba reke dikgomo undertaken to facilitate the growth of the dairy sub- tsa mashi about 2000 from South Africa kana ke re kwa sector. These include sale of female sexed semen ntle ga Botswana, but because of dikgwetlho tse di neng at subsidised cost to improve the genetic merit and di le teng nako eo tse di tshwanang le tsa bo Foot and increase dairy cow herd and construction of milk Mouth kwa South Africa they could not facilitate. I can collection centres in strategic locations to improve attribute ke sa reye gore ke tsaya tiro Ministry of Trade, market accessibility for small scale farmers among I can attribute go diega ga Milk Afric go emelela ke the others. challenges tsa go nna jalo, ka gore re ne ra nna lebaka • Government is also promoting private investment le le leele e le gore ga re kgone to import dikgomo in the dairy sub-sector, not only to improve the kwa Afrika Borwa because of Foot and Mouth. Ke productivity of the sub-sector but also to create dikgwetlho tse dingwe tse di leng teng. Jaaka o ne o employment. Examples of these projects are botsa Honourable Member gore kana ke bua ka FAP Sunnyside Dairy Farm, Deo Volente Investments ya bogologolo, yes ke bogologolo, mme jaaka ke ke and Milk Afric at Lobatse. I thank you Mr Speaker. ne ke bua ga re a felela foo, jaaka ke ne ke supa mo karabong ya me gore, we impose the 40 per cent tariff MR LESASO: Supplementary. Mr Speaker, ke reeditse on the imports of UHT milk. E le go leka go rotloetsa karabo ya ga Tona, mme kana o bua ka dikgang tsa bo gore the local or the subsector locally e kgone gore e FAP from 2000. gole, re fokotsa competition mo go bone. We are also Ke batla go itse gore from 2000 fa FAP e ntse e thusa implementing Dairy Development Strategy sa 2013 se batho ba ba neng ba iteka go tlisa mashi mo lefatsheng le sone re dumelang gore se a thusa, jaaka ke ne ke supa la Botswana ba dirile eng go ba thusa gore tlhaelo e gore through the said strategy re rekisa female sexed e ntseng e le teng mo dingwageng tse di kanakana e semen at a subsidised cost. E re dumelang gore golo kgone go fokotsega? Gompieno ke utlwa gape a bua mo ke thuso ka bo gone gore re bo re ba rekisetsa ka a ka Milk Afric e gompieno e santseng e batlelwa batho subsidised cost, e le gone go oketsa dikgomo tsa rona tsa ba ba ka kgonang gore ba simolodise go tlisa kgwebo mashi tse re nang le tsone.

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O ne o boditse ka kgang ya small scale farmers (i) initiatives put in place to have a fully-fledged particularly kwa Serowe, ke re, we are aware of the GBV department within the Botswana Police challenges tse di leng teng. Jaaka ke ne ke bua, some Service; and of the challenges do not rest only with the ministry, tse dingwe ke tse e leng gore they need us to look even (ii) initiatives put in place to have independent and beyond borders for us to be able to fully drive agenda fully operational Youth and GBV courts within ya rona gore re leke go godisa dikgwebo tseo. We also the Judiciary. have the Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND (ERTP), in that plan we have a budget e re dumelang SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr Speaker, gore re ka kgona gore re tsenye some resources in these mma ke go leboge Honourable Kekgonegile. small scale farmers for us to increase and enhance their production. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. (i) Mr Speaker, as I had indicated to this Honourable House during the last Parliamentary Session, all DR GOBOTSWANG: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr police stations across the country deal with cases Speaker. Honourable Minister, o ne o bua ka the dairy of Gender Based Violence (GBV) and always strategy, mme kana in that strategy go ne go tshwanetse strive to protect victims. GBV reports are attended go nna le a Dairy board. Ke batla go botsa gore a board to in secluded rooms and victims are treated with e teng, le gore a e a bereka, fa e le gore ga e yo go respect and empathy. diile eng gore e nne teng? Sa bobedi go na le batho ba ba dirang maiteko a gore ba tsenelele dikgwebo tse tsa The Botswana Police Service has embraced the need mashi, go lebega go nnile le maiteko kwa Maunatlala, to come up with Child-Friendly Police facilities to ga diriwa ditlhotlhomiso ke lephata la gago, le la ga Rre cater for victims of child abuse. On the 10th December, Molale ka community resilience projects. Ke botsa gore 2020 a Child-Friendly Police facility was completed thulaganyo eo ya Maunatlala e tsamaya fa kae, kana o and opened for use at the Broadhurst Police Station, kae Rre Modukanele? Ke a leboga. Gaborone as a pilot project.

MR GARE: Ke a leboga Honourable Member. Yes Mr Speaker, Training curriculum for the Botswana it is very true ...(Inaudible)… se se supang gore go Police Service has various modules to equip officers tshwanetse go nne le Dairy board. Ke tlaabo ke sa bue on how to deal with different types of crime, including boammaaruri fa ke ka go raya ka re board e teng, but GBV. In-service training on specialised skills continues what I understand… ke tla go kopa motlotlegi gore o to be offered throughout their career. mphe nako ke ye go se tlhomamisa, e bile ke go batlele gore go tsamaya fa kae. Ga ke batle gore ke eme fa ke We anticipate that a fully-fledged GBV Unit, within the bue gore establishment ya board e tsamaya fa kae, ga e Botswana Police Service will be established during the tsamaye fa kae, e tloga e re kamoso go bo go fitlhelwa e le 2021/2022 Financial Year. The envisioned Unit will be gore ga ke a go fa boammaaruri. Ke itse gore thulaganyo dedicated to dealing with gender based and child related di teng kana di a dirwa tsa gore board e nne teng. Ke offences. sone se ke reng, ke kopa o mphe nako motlotlegi ke ye (ii)Mr Speaker, on 9th November 2020, the Honourable go bona gore e tsamaya fa kae, ke tlaa boela kwa go Chief Justice, reacting to the increased rate of GBV wena ka karabo. Ya Maunatlala le yone Mr Speaker ga cases, issued Practice Directive No 9 of 2020 and ke na information at the moment. Ke kopa Honourable declared that effective 1st December 2020, all GBV Member a mphe nako ke mo tlholele gore maiteko a a cases shall be treated as urgent applications for tsamaya fa kae. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. expedited management, set down and disposal. In line with the CJ’s Practice Directive in question, such cases FIGHT AGAINST GBV shall upon registration be dealt with urgently without following the normal scheduling of cases. MR G. KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): asked the Minister of Defence, Justice and Security to brief The Honourable Chief Justice has therefore established this Honourable House on measures by the ministry specialised courts dedicated to GBV cases, in all to facilitate an effective fight against Gender Based Chief Magistrate stations. In stations with no Chief Violence (GBV) by the Botswana Police Service and Magistrate, GBV cases will still be prioritised in line the Judiciary, in particular: with the dictates of the Practice Directive.

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Finally Mr Speaker, all these intervention measures by Inter-Ministerial Committee jaaka o bua, gongwe borre both the BPS and Administration Of Justice (AOJ) are ke Matona ba le four le mme a le mongwefela. Sub- steps in the right direction which are expected to bear committee ya teng e na le bomme ba bantsi mo teng, e fruits when coupled with the recently launched Inter- bile le NGOs. Ke komiti e e kwa godimo, mme e na le Ministerial GBV Committee and the highly anticipated sub-committee e e nang le NGOs, maphata a mantsintsi implementation of the Sex Offender’s Register. I thank le Permanent Secretaries ba tlaabong ba dira terms of you Mr Speaker. reference tse. Ga ke sure thata ka o ne o bua ka gore MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary. Tanki Mr terms of reference tsa Dikgosi di ne tsa se ka tsa ya gope, Speaker, Tanki Tona. mme ke na le tumelo ya gore e e tshwerwe sentle, e setse e tlhomilwe semmuso e bile e na le a fully-fledged Fa re tsena mo go e ya police stations, o buile ka pilot team. Modulasetilo ke Minister Mokgethi, ke ene a e project kwa Broadhurst le gore all police stations di eteletseng pele. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. tlaabo di na le GBV Units ka budget ya 2021/2022. Tona, go nna le unit as personnel le fully-fledged unit which LAND ALLOCATION IN BOTETI SUB- consists of personnel le fa ba direlang teng, ke gone DISTRICT fela mo go ka dirang gore GBV e kgone to be attended effectively in police stations. Fa re lebile shortage ya MS T. MONNAKGOTLA (KGALAGADI NORTH): office accommodation in all our police stations, a o na asked the Minister of Land Management, Water and le thulaganyo epe e e reng in this financial year ya 2021 Sanitation Services to provide an update on land jaaka o tlaabo o diragatsa fully-fledged GBV Units in allocation in the Boteti Sub-District and to state: all police stations, a o ya go diragatsa le dikago kana (i) the number of applicants who have not been ke batho fela ba ba tlaabong ba berekela fa ba ntseng ba allocated residential plots in the last five years; berekela teng fa e leng gore it is not conducive to GBV victims? Ke ya ntlha. (ii) the number of applicants for business plots not allocated in the last five years; O buile ka Inter-Ministerial Committee. Re bonye e tlhomiwa semmuso (launch) ke Mothusa Tautona. Ke (iii) the percentage of youth applicants in both cases at borre ba le bane le mme a le mongwefela. Potso ke (i) and (ii) above; and gore ke eng borre ba le bantsi mo komiting e, mme a le mongwefela mme bomme e le bone ba e leng victims? (iv) what measures are in place to clear the backlog Fa e nne palo ya bone e le ntsi go gaisa ya borre, gongwe MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER komiti e e ne e ka bereka. AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): Sa bobedi, a terms of reference tsa komiti e di tshwana Thank you Mr Speaker. (i) Mr Speaker, Boteti Sub- le ele ya Dikgosi e e kileng ya nna teng e re sa bonang fa District compose of two Sub-Land Boards, Letlhakane e feletseng teng ka ga re a utlwa di gatisiwa (publish)? and Rakops. Letlhakane and Rakops Sub-Land Boards have 26 567 and 3 702 applicants respectively who have Labofelo, ke eng Non-Governmental Organisations not been allocating residential plots during the last five (NGOs) di sa emelwa mo Komiting e ya Inter- Ministerial? Tanki Tona. years.

MR MMUSI: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mo go ya ntlha (ii) Ngwato Land Board does not have a waiting list e o neng o bua ka pilot project, pilot project like kwa for business plots, as the practice is not to keep Broadhurst ga e a nna mo teng ga police station. Go waiting lists of business plots but rather advertise ne ga batliwa ntlo nngwe e e fa thoko ga police station them once they become available. go bo go direlwa gone foo, gore go diriwe unit ya teng. Jaanong le mo mafelong a mangwe, go tlaa nna go ntse (iii) In Letlhakane Sub-Land Board, 13 780 or 52 per go tlhophiwa suitable place. In the meantime, fa re iseng cent of the applicants are youth and have not yet re bone lefelo, re tlaa nama re batlile a suitable room been allocated residential plots in the last five mme maikaelelo ke to identify suitable places next to years while Rakops Sub-Land Board 2 195 youths the police stations. Maybe go tswe ntlo nngwe gone foo, who represent 59 per cent of the applicants have and be converted jaaka e e kwa Broadhurst. not been allocated residential plots.

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(iv) Mr Speaker, currently 1 653 plots have been through the Supplementary Budget, Financial Paper surveyed in Letlhakane Sub-Land Board’s area No.1 of 2020-2021 for furtherance of the fight against of jurisdiction and will be ready for allocation the COVID-19 pandemic. Out of this amount, P1.3 during the first quarter of 2021/22 financial year billion was provided under the Ministry of Finance and (Letlhakane village will have 982 plots and Economic Development for stabilisation of businesses. Mmatshumu will have 671 plots). Draft layout P1 billion under the Ministry of Health and Wellness was plans for Mmeya (380 plots), Mokubilo (829), used for procurement of Personal Protective Equipment Letlhakane Phase 3 (1 190), and Makgaba (411) (PPE) for frontline staff, laboratory commodities which are in place and will be ready for allocation during are test kits and the reagents, and other equipment to be the third quarter of the same financial year. As used at the ports of entry and isolation centres. regards, Rakops Sub-Land Board, 378 plots will be ready for allocation during 2021/22 financial Mr Speaker, details of spending from the COVID-19 year and it should be done in the first quarter of the Pandemic Relief Fund are provided in another annexure financial year. I thank you Mr Speaker. which I will share with the Honourable Member. I also wish to indicate that there are other COVID-19 related COVID-19 FUND DONATIONS expenses which were incurred across various sectors of Government which are not part of the fund. Examples MR O. RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): asked the Minister of such are assistance to the sports, culture and arts sub- of Finance and Economic Development to state: sector under the Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport (i) the amount, equipment and any other assistance and Culture Development and freelance tour operators donated to the COVID-19 Fund and how it has under the Ministry of Environment, Natural Resources, been utilised; Conservation and Tourism.

(ii) how much Government contributed or set aside in Mr Speaker, the Office of Auditor General has the fight against COVID-19 and how it has been undertaken a performance audit of the COVID-19 Fund. expended (spent); and The exercise has been completed and the report is being finalised with the intention to submit and present to (iii) when Parliament will be availed an audited Parliament during the first quarter of 2021/22. I thank financial report on the COVID-19 Fund, which you Mr Speaker. is a public fund and should be audited for the purposes of transparency, accountability and good MR SALESHANDO: Supplementary. Thank you governance. Mr Speaker. Ke botse Tona Matsheka gore, kana go na le palo e a kileng a e bega a re go rekilwe medical MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC equipment ya P2.4 billion. Gompieno mo dipalong tse a DEVELOPMENT (DR MATSHEKA): Thank you di fang, fa ke utlwang a bua ka medical equipment teng Mr Speaker. (i) Mr Speaker, an amount of P139, 620, o bua P1.3 billion. Palo ya P2.4 billion Rre Matsheka, 913.00 has been donated to the COVID- 19 Pandemic nako ya e sale e ntshiwa o bua ka yone, go ne go rekwa th Relief Fund as at 8 February 2021 and it forms part eng ka that P2.4 billion, mme ke eng e seyo mo karabong of the overall credit to the fund. The funds are used to ya gago gompieno? finance medical supplies, food hampers, contact tracing expenses and wage subsidy costs. Donations to the fight DR MATSHEKA: Mr Speaker, I am not too sure which against COVID-19 were mostly in kind as detailed in one he is referring to. I have answered this question annexure that I will share with the Honourable Member. to the best of what I have in front of me. It may be necessary to reconcile the references to anything that I (ii) Mr Speaker, following the pronouncement of the have said in the past much more specifically. Thank you. State of Public Emergency in April 2020, Government congregated a total of P4.3 billion for COVID-19 MR RAMOGAPI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr mitigation measures and its aftereffects. Specifically the Speaker. Mr Speaker, ke botse Tona gore a o a itse gore funds are distributed as follows; the initial amount of P2 Batswana ba tshwenyegile gore madi a a kanakana, billion was earmarked for health supplies, wage subsidy, gatwe motlhala wa one o kae? Tota le fa a re o a supa psychosocial support and relocation of Batswana in the gore madi a dirile eng, Batswana ga ba bone se a se diaspora. A further sum of P2.3 billion was approved dirileng. Sekai jaaka a bua gore go rekilwe medical

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supplies, rona ba re leng on the ground jaana, le tsone Le mmiletse kwa dikomiting tsa lona, a tle go le araba testing kits gatwe di fedile. Tota dilo tse gotweng di gore o bone eng mo ditlhotlhomisong. Ke a leboga rekilwe tseo, wa re di kae? Batswana ba batla gore o ba Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. tlhomamisetse. MR SPEAKER: Thank you Minister. Order! Order! Ya bobedi ke gore, a mme Tona go ne go na le guideline Honourable Members, the time has struck, we should ya gore madi a a tlaa dirisiwa jang kwa Office of the adjourn re ye go kopa metsinyana, and try to be back President, ka gore re tshwentswe thata ke gore batho ba at 2 p.m. sharp. Thank you very much. Let us adjourn. ne ba hirwa ka mo gotweng direct appointment. PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 1:00 P.M. FOR E nngwe gape Tona mabapi le audit ke gore, ke eng APPROXIMATELY 1 HOUR audit e sa dirwe ke batho ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi, gona le gore go audit Auditor General yo o hirwang ke PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 2:00 P.M. Tautona, o kobiwa ke Tautona; o ka audit jang Ofisi ya MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, ga Tautona? Golo mo go tshwenya Batswana Rraetsho good afternoon. Let us resume the meeting. Matsheka. Ke a leboga ka dikarabo tsa gago.

DR MATSHEKA: Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you TABLING OF PAPER Honourable Ramogapi. I think the fact of the matter The following paper was tabled: is that, where we sit as a ministry, we have provided resources to be able to finance the acquisition of testing BOTSWANA GEOSCIENCE INSTITUTE kits, and I can confirm that a lot of them have been used, ANNUAL REPORT, 2020 and there may be shortages because of the continuous (Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and usage of such equipment. Therefore, it is not necessarily Energy Security) the case gore e bo e re jaanong fa di fedile, go bo go buiwa gore ga di ise di ko di rekiwe gotlhelele. Ke STATEMENT dumela gore di tlaa tswelela di batliwa gore re kgone go thusa Batswana. STATUS OF THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF THE NATIONAL Gape ke tshwanetse ke tlhalose mo potsong ya bobedi DEVELOPMENT PLAN (NDP) 11 gore, go na le melawana e e dirisiwang go reka dithoto tsa ga Goromente. Tsholofelo le tumelo ya rona ke gore MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC melawana e e setswe morago, mme tsela fela e nosi e e DEVELOPMENT (DR MATSHEKA): Mr Speaker, I ka reng re supa kwa morago ra re, re tlaa leka go leba stand in terms of Standing Order 41.2 (2) to provide facts dibuka tsa Puso go bona gore a madi a mme a dirisitswe about the allegations made by Honourable Reatile, that sentle, a dirisitswe ka ditlhwatlhwa tse di siametseng the Total Estimated Cost of the National Development go ka boloka madi a setšhaba. Ke tlhomamisetse Rre Plan (NDP) 11, has been changed without the authority Ramogapi gore, melawana ya theko ya dilwana le of this House. I had listened, and continue to listen, to yone ya direct appointment, e ka fa melaong ya Public the inputs by Members of Parliament on the Budget Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (PPADB). Re Speech I presented on the 1st February 2021 as part of dumela gore e tlaa re fa go sekasekiwa dibuka tse, re the Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, (No. 2 of 2021). I tlaa bona gore tota bonnete ke gore go tsamaile jang. will be responding in detail to Members’ comments and views at a time to be decided by you Mr Speaker, as Mo go ya Auditor General, go botlhokwa gore re itse provided as well in Standing Order 86.2 of the Standing gore seemo se re leng mo go sone gompieno, Auditor Orders of this Parliament. General ke ene motlhatlhobi wa dibuka tsa Puso. Go fitlhelela re fetola thulaganyo eo, go tlaa tswelela e However, Mr Speaker, Honourable Reatile’s allegations nna ene yo o tsamayang a dira dibuka tseo. Jaaka ke that I have changed the Total Estimated Cost of NDP kaile ke re, o setse a feditse ditlhotlhomiso, report eo 11 without the authority of Parliament are very serious, ba ba lebaneng ba a fetola dilo tse a di boneng gore ba as they border on the integrity of the Government of kgone gore e felele e tlisitswe kwa Palamenteng. Le tle Botswana, the Ministry of Finance and Economic le e sekaseke batlotlegi le kgone go tla go botsa dipotso. Development (MFED) and indeed, on myself.

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Much as Honourable Members have the right to debate 479 000 000 in the current Budget before Parliament. the budget the way they see fit, it does not absolve To respond to this, I wish to refer the Honourable House them from telling the truth, especially where figures are to three related documents: NDP 11; MTR of NDP 11 involved. I could not help but recall the perplexed nature and the 2021/2022 Estimates of Expenditure from the of the face of the Member of Parliament, Honourable Consolidated and Development Funds. Saleshando on the remarks that were made. I am sure even the whole nation was surprised by the remarks. Mr Speaker, the original Total Estimated Cost of NDP 11 was P101 406 300 000 approved by this House in Mr Speaker, I have respect for Honourable Reatile, as November 2016. This was reduced to P101 341 000 an old member of this House, who should guide some of 000 in the MTR of NDP 11 approved by this House in the new Members on the documentation that accompany September 2020. Following the approval of the MTR the Budget presentation. I also expect the Honourable of NDP 11 in September 2020, I have presented annual Member to be familiar with the basic planning Estimates of Expenditure from the Consolidated and documents such as the NDPs, Mid-Term Reviews Development Funds for financial year 2021/2022 on (MTR), Supplementary Estimates of Expenditure, the 1st February 2021 with a proposed revised Total Annual Estimates of Expenditure from the Consolidated Estimated Cost of P101,479,200,000. and Development Funds and the Annual Financial Statements, Tables and Estimates of the Consolidated The difference between the MTR of NDP 11 figure and Development Funds Revenues. All these documents and the figure mentioned in the 2021/2022 Estimates are at the disposal of Members to consult and if need of Expenditure is an increase in TEC of P138,000,000. be, seek clarification from the Ministry of Finance and This is part of the budget proposals contained in Economic Development. With regards to the Estimates the 2021/2022 Estimates of Expenditure from the of Expenditure from the Consolidated and Development Consolidated and Development Funds and presented as Funds, it was availed to Honourable Members on the 6th part of the current Appropriation Bill. January 2021, almost a month before presentation of the Budget to Parliament on the 1st February 2021. This is Mr Speaker, I wish to highlight some of the ministries meant to afford Honourable Members time to study the that contributed to the P138 million variance cited Budget as they prepare for the debates. above as follows:

Mr Speaker, in order to further improve the Budget (a) Ministry for Presidential Affairs, Governance and preparation process, we may have to look at our Standing Public Administration (and not the Office of the Orders with a view to consider utilising the Clear Day President as was said by Honourable Reatile) is to discuss the Budget and clarify issues which may be P67,214,446: This constitutes the proposed TEC raised by Honourable Members before debates resume increase of National AIDS and Health Promotion and enhance understanding. Agency (NAHPA) programme. This proposed increase in the NDP 11 TEC was offset by a Mr Speaker, there are several issues raised by transfer TEC for HIV/AIDS programme under Honourable Reatile in his debate. In this statement, I the Ministry of Health and Wellness following the want to focus on one; which is the allegation that I have transfer of NAHPA to this ministry. changed the Total Estimated Cost of NDP 11, without authority, which he described as “irregular, unprocedural (b) Ministry of Finance and Economic Development and unethical.” You will agree with me Mr Speaker (MFED) - P110,000,000: The TEC of MFED that, these are strong words, especially directed to the Statistical Survey and Studies programme was Minister responsible for finance. The other issues raised not sufficient to cater for the 2021 Population and by the Honourable Members will be addressed when I Housing Census, hence the proposed increase. respond to the general debate in a few days’ time. (c) Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport and What is the issue here Mr Speaker? The Honourable Culture Development (MYSC) - P24,100,000: Member alleges that I have increased the Total There is a proposed TEC increase of P3,100,000 in Estimated Cost of the NDP 11 from P101 341 000 000 order to provide for the Botswana Government’s and this is inaccurate number as well that he has quoted, contribution towards library project implemented approved in the Mid-Term Review of NDP 11 to P101 by the Robert and Sarah Rothschild Foundation.

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In addition, there is a proposed TEC increase MR REATILE: Yes, Mr Speaker. Honourable Matsheka for MYSC Infrastructure by P21,000,000 for o ne a supa gore, “Mr Speaker, while we are expecting the Francistown Stadium. Other reasons for economic recovery during the coming fiscal year, this the variance are contained in Annexure 1 to be does not mean our fiscal challenges will disappear distributed with this statement. anytime soon. As the Mid-Term Review of NDP 11 pointed out, the decline in fiscal revenues is a long- Mr Speaker, I wish to emphasise that the term structural trend not just a short-term problem; in P101,479,200,000 cited above is not an approved TEC as essence, therefore, the pandemic has simply accelerated alleged by Honourable Reatile but it is a proposed TEC an ongoing trend. We now have one or two years to to be considered by this House. I also wish to indicate respond and adjust to achieve a fiscal sustainability, that during budgeting, it often happens that additional rather than a five to 10 years that we might have had priorities come to the fore and necessarily compete for otherwise”. I just want to compare the two statements resources with already existing commitments. It is at Mr Speaker, I will take one of the Budget Speeches tsa this stage that these are assessed and in instances where ga Rre Matambo, sa the 7th February, 2011. I will quote the budget allows, are included in the main budget paragraph 79… proposals for consideration by Parliament. MR SPEAKER: Yes, please do. Mr Speaker, as I conclude my statement, I wish to indicate that traditionally, my ministry holds a MR REATILE: I quote Mr Speaker… Budget Pitsos for Honourable Members as part of the consultative process prior to presentation of the Budget MR SPEAKER: Yes sir. to Parliament. Regrettably, the 2020 Budget Pitso was MR REATILE: “We are demonstrating that not held due to complications caused by COVID-19. Government has the discipline to limit its expenditure Some of the issues arising from the debate could have and therefore, the Budget deficit. I wish to reemphasise been clarified at the Budget Pitso. that the total deficit approved by Parliament for the entire Lastly Mr Speaker, I wish to assure Honourable NDP 10 must not be exceeded”. Mr Speaker, ke leka Members that there is no desire not to be transparent go supegetsa Honourable Matsheka gore if he has any about the Budget Preparation Process. The Budget intention to increase TEC, he should communicate in Documents are deposited in the ministry website for his Budget Speech. He is talking about the adjustment. the public to access. In addition, copies are available in Mr Speaker, in the expenditure book, he adjusted two Public Libraries and Village Reading Rooms primarily ministries which I have never mentioned here. He to cater for people who do not have access to the adjusted funds tsa gagwe tsa Ministry of Agriculture website. My ministry will continue to find ways to and Ministry of Basic Education which I have never enhance accessibility of the Budget information. I thank talked to ka mabaka a gore o setse a re boleletse ka kgang ya adjustment but ga a ise a re bolelele kgang you Mr Speaker. ya gore he is intending to increase TEC. Re kopana le MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, figurestsa gore o okeditse TEC ka P138 million and did at this stage, we should allow questions and clarifications not communicate in his speech. Mr Speaker, kgang e, ga go na gope where I mislead lefatshe teng. Fa go na regarding the statement made by the Honourable le any misleading documents ke Budget Speech because Minister of Finance and Economic Development, if any. ga e bue ka to intend to increase kana to request the MR REATILE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke lebogele House to increase TEC. Ke sone se ke neng ke se bua statement sa ga Honourable Matsheka gore o kgonne go Mr Speaker gore ga re ka ke ra increase TEC without bona sebaka sa go tla go buisa Palamente le setšhaba the authority ya Palamente. Fa e ne e le in the speech, gompieno. Mr Speaker, nna le Honourable Matsheka e ne e se issue mo go nna. Ke ne ke tlaabo ke itse gore re a dumalana ka dipalo. Kgang e e teng ke gore, everything is in order. I thank you. Honourable Matsheka o dumela gore it is a proposed MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Reatile. Total Estimated Cost (TEC) to this Honourable House. Honourable Dr Matsheka, you want to add to that? When he submitted the Budget Speech ka the 1st of February Mr Speaker, I can quote paragraph 138... DR MATSHEKA: Yes Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Please do. MR SPEAKER: Please do.

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DR MATSHEKA: Tota Honourable Reatile, jaaka emetswe mo Palamenteng ke Mapalamente a a tswang ke ne ke bua, go botlhokwa gore re tseye sebaka sa go kwa dikgaolong gore le ba thuse, le ba tlhalosetse. Fa e le rutana le go lemotshana dibuka tsotlhe tse ke buileng lona gape jaanong le tsayang tables tseo le di kgonamisa ka tsone. Go a itshupa gore go bala tables tse tsotlhe le le di baya ka tsela e e leng gore ga le tle go itse gore polelo ya Budget Speech, ga go tlhaloganyesege jaaka koketsego ke eng, phokotso ke eng mo mading, go re ne re eletsa. Fa ke bua mafoko a o neng o a bua, wa tlaa nna bokete. Re dumela gore le le Mapalamente, le re, go irregular, unprocedural and unethical, jaanong tshwanetse le bale dilo tse le tlhaloganya gore gatweng, gone moo fela, ke go nyatsa le go tlhofofatsa tsamaiso fa le sa itse, le botse. Re tle re kgone go le thusa, le e re e setseng morago re le Goromente, re le Ministry se ka la tloga la timetsa Batswana. Ke bona bodiphatsa of Finance. Go bo ke sa tsenya mokwalo mo Budget jwa boeteledipele jo bo sa baleng, e bile bo kgona go Speech, ga go go rontshe tshono ya gore o ipalele fopholetsa, bo bua sepolotiki, bo sa lebelele Budget ka ditafole tse tsotlhe. Ka jalo, gongwe go tlaare re batle fa e kwadilweng ka teng. letsatsi le le faphegileng, le tle le botse ka gore Budget e, ke the tables tse le di neetsweng e seng speech. Le Jaanong ke ne ke ka go rotloetsa Honourable bale Budget le bone gore madi a oketsega fa kae, a Kekgonegile gore, ke kopa gore o bale tables tse le di fokotsega fa kae. Gore o bo o taboga le paragraph 38 neetsweng, e re fa le buisa Committee of Supply, le se le speech sa ga Rre Matambo, go nkaetsa gape gore ga ka la shankodisa fela, le bale, e bile le tlhaloganye gore o a tlhaloganya gore itsholelo e bopilwe jang, e bile go gatweng, re isa lefatshe kwa kae. E seng jalo re tlile go na le ditshetlana dife tse di tlhokafalang gore re di sale tlhola re ntse fa re araba dikgang tse e leng gore le mong morago. Ga go reye gore Palamente e, ga e ka ke ya leba wa tsone o a di itatola kwa bofelong gore ga a ise a rialo, kopo e e beilweng jaaka ke e bitsa ke re, proposal. Ga o ne a re ga a bona mokwalo o o kwadilweng. le ise le fetse go amogela Budget. Ke lona le ka tsayang Kgang ya bobedi ya P2.4 billion, re le tlhaloseditse gore ditshwetso le le Palamente gore a le dumalana le se le P2.4 billion yo o buang ka ene yo, e ne e le submission, se beilweng pele, le akgela mo go sone le bo le tsaya e le a budget number that was submitted nako eo. ditshwetso. Ke lona fela le ka oketsang TEC e. Jaanong Jaanong gompieno ke go fa dipalo tse e feletseng e le ga go a siama gore o bo o ema mo Palamenteng o raya tsa bofelo tse di neng di dumalanwa. Jaanong, fa wena batho o re, ke e okeditse kwa ntle ga tetla ya Palamente. o setse morago kgang ya gore kana gatwe Personal O kare ke dirile jalo mme go se na boammaaruri. Ke a Protective Equipment (PPE) di a reng, hee! go utsule leboga Mr Speaker. mang, go a reng, ga se kgang e ke e tletseng fa. Ke go MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki Mr Speaker. Tanki tlhalosetsa fela sentle gore, that is why ke ne ke araba Honourable Matsheka. Honourable Matsheka, Honourable Saleshando kgantele ke mo raya ke re, ga Motswana fa a go reeditse a le kwa gae, o batla go ke gakologelwe kgang eo, e tlaare ke le kwa ofising, ke tlhaloganya gore, a wa re fa figures di fetoga mo Budget lebelele gore gatwe wa re P2.4 o kae, ka dipalopalo di ya gago, a ga a tshwanela go itse a le kwa gae? Kana fa, e bile di le kala matlho. Ke a leboga. Budget e, ga se ya Palamente fela, ke ya Batswana. A MR TSHERE: Thank you very much Honourable wa re Batswana ba tle go ipalela tables gore ba itse gore Speaker, and thank you very much Honourable figures mo documents tsa gago tse tharo tse, di fetogile? Matsheka. I am worried as well that your ministry all Sa bobedi, Honourable Matsheka, Motswana fa a ne a the time keeps us guessing what is happening with the reeditse kgantele o araba pharologanyo ya P2 billion le figures. Last time when SONA (State of the Nation P2.4 billion yo o builweng ka ene mo COVID, o tlaa Address) was addressed, they talked about P4 billion ipotsa dipotso ka wena. A gompieno motho a tle go being used for COVID-19. Now you are coming up with ipalela table, ka kgantele o tlaabo o re ga o gakologelwe a figure, and at that time they talked about P2.1 billion gore o kile wa bua ka P2.4 billion? Re tla re ipotsa gore only, re sa itse gore a mangwe a kae. Jaanong gompieno a mme itsholelo ya rona e mo diatleng tse di siameng, a tla gape o bua, o a tlhalosa, nnyaa jaanong e nnile kana itsholelo ya rona e ya go gopelwa, ka o nna o P4.3 billion, P2 billion o ile kwa Health, P2.3 billion itatola motsotso le motsotso? Tanki. e ne e le supplementary budget, P1 billion a felela a DR MATSHEKA: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo ya kwa Health, nnyaa gompieno jaanong re rekile P1.3 tsa Palamente. Honourable Kekgonegile, o nthaya o million worth of equipment. My question is, Honourable re, a Motswana a ye go ipalela dipampiri tse, mme ba Matsheka, I do not know whether it is the nature of your

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ministry to hide figures and only give Parliament figures dumalana le wena mokaulengwe gore re tlaa tshwanelwa when on a need to know. Fa Mapalamente ba sa botse, ke go tokafatsa, re berekele kwa pele go leka go ruta ga o re bolelele nnete. O didimala fela, gore fa re sa itse, Batswana go feta Office of the President(OP). ga re itse. Jaanong golo mo go a tshwenya Honourable Minister. Is that the nature of your Ministry to do that? Ke bue gape ke re, re kwalolotse Budget Speech e ka Setswana. Go na le dibukana tse di teng tsa Setswana tse MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, the reason I e leng gore batho ba kgona go ipalela gore gatwe madi allowed questions was to clarify the statement by the ke bokae, a tsentswe fa kae. Ba ba kgonang ba ye kwa Minister in relation to the increase in the …(Inaudible)… website ya ministry go lebelela dipalo tse ka Setswana. So fa o re busetsa kwa mading a P1.2, P4.3, ga ke Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. itse gore jaanong o mo go a fe. If you want to ask the Minister on his statement, I will ask you to do so. If you MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lesedi! want to ask about the other things, I will then ask you …Silence… to find another time. So, I am not going to allow those questions to be answered because they are irrelevant. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lesedi, you are supposed to look at your screen, and you will see something on MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Thank you Mr your screen which you should click to unmute yourself. Speaker. Rre Matsheka, re lebogela tshedimoso ya gago. Potso ya me ka bokhutshwane ke gore, a ga o bone go MR LESEDI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Nnyaa, tota tlhokafala gore on a regular basis, you must have press ke ne ke batla go utlwisisa. Kana go supega gore go conferences le babegadikgang go tlhalosa dikgang tse, okeditswe ka P138 million. Jaanong kutlwisiso e ne e le to bring Batswana into confidence, because nako e re gore, Minister a re tlhalosetse re le Ntlo e gore re ye go tshelang mo go yone e, there is a lot of fake news and nna mmogo jaaka fa a supa gore go na le bosenakitso. Re political posturing, jaanong Batswana ba felela ba tsena ne re eletsa gore re nne mmogo gone fa go P138 million. mo ketsaetsegong, ba sa itse gore nnete ke eng, eng ga Kwa ntleng ga gore Motlotlegi Reatile o ne a itemogela se nnete. A ga o bone nako e sa tla gore o nne le regular dipalo tse, ke gone ra bo re kgona go utlwa kana go ela press briefing, le Batswana kwa gae ba nne ba solofele tlhoko gore dipalo tse indeed di fetile ka P138 million. gore maybe after every quarter ba ka utlwa gore go Jaanong ke ne ke le mo goreng, a se ka gongwe a araba tsamaya tsamaya jang, gore o tlhotlhe nnete go tswa mo ka gore a re, go mo goreng re gane kana re dumele. O dikgang tsa sepolotiki? Ke a leboga. ne a tshwanetse gore pele ga re gana kana re dumela, DR MATSHEKA: Ke a leboga Honourable Healy. ditlhaloso tsa P138 million yo o fa yo, di filwe Ntlo e Boammaaruri ke gore, information e e ntsi e a tlhokafala gore rotlhe re nne mo kutlwisisong e e tshwanang. Ke gore re kgone go lwantsha bosenakitso. Ka jalo, ke ne ke le gone foo fela gore a tlhalosetse Ntlo e gore this dumalana le wena gore go botlhokwa gore o tswelele P138 million jaaka fa Motlotlegi Reatile a ne a mo supa, o bue ka dilo tse fa nako e letla. Ke go tlhomamisetse e le ene a farologanyang dipalo tse di approved kwa gore beke e e fetileng re ne re biditse babegadikgang, NDP 11, e ya mid-term review, le tse di tlang gompieno mme sebe sa phiri ya nna gore, bontsi jwa bone ba se ka ka budget, tota gone re di nyalanya jang, re tsena jang ba kgona to connect jaaka re ne re solofetse. Ka jalo, ke mo go tsone. Ke ne ke le foo Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga. kopile le bodiredi jwa me jaaka o ne o bona Permanent Secretary, Dr Mandlebe a dira interviews, gore ba leke DR MATSHEKA: Mr Speaker, ke tlhalositse gore, go thusa go tlhalosa dikgang tse. Jaaka o bua, e seng gongwe go tlaare re tokafatse ka fa re nyalanang ka teng jalo re ya go fitlhela re eteletswe pele ke bosenakitso le Mapalamente gore tsotlhe tse re di beileng fa pele jo o kgonang go tlhaloganya dilo, o bua o ise o botse ga Palamente, ba kgone go di tlhaloganya. That is why dipotso. ke rile, gore fa gongwe fa o sa tlhaloganye, gongwe o botse. Fa gongwe re na le workshop, re ka bo gongwe Jaanong ke dumalana le wena gotlhelele mokaulengwe re le tsentse mo go yone, jaanong le mpatla workshop gore go botlhokwa gore dilo tse di tlhalosiwe ka gore fa gore re tsamae le table e yotlhe, ke bo ke le ranolela o bona ke tlile fa jaana, ke itse gore jaanong Batswana tables tse ke le tlhalosetsa. Ka jalo, ke tlhalositse gore ba ne ba ya go etsaetsega gore o kare dikgang tsa pharologanyo ke eng. Se se neng se sa nna sentle ke tiriso ya madi le ditsamaiso, ga di salwe morago, mme gore, e re fa o sa tlhaloganya mo go feletseng, o bo o boammaaruri e le gore ga go a nna jalo. Jaanong ke sa botse. Jaanong ga go thona Honourable Lesedi, gore

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dilo tse le di botse fa le kgona go di lemoga. Go ne go MR MOSWAANE: Ke ne ke re ke akgele mo issue ya sena nako ya gore re nne fa fatshe fa re le tlhalosetse ga Rre Matsheka ka tlhompho le boikokobetso ka ke a gore lebelela column e, o bo o lebelela e, o tlaa bona utlwa gore go na le kgang ya gore Mapalamente o kare pharologanyo ya dipalo tse di leng teng. Ke a leboga ga se baitsaanape ba tsa madi, which is very true. Ke Mr Speaker. botse gore go paledisa eng because the culture e ntse e le teng ya gore a week before kana pele ga Budget e fiwa MR REATILE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke leboge Ntlo ya Palamente, Finance and Estimates Committee gape Dr Matsheka ka ditlhaloso tsa gagwe, mme ke e tshwanetse go kopana go buisana ka yone. Le culture mo tlhomamisetse gore Honourable Matsheka, rona e ntse e le teng ya gore a week before Palamente e ka ba bangwe ga re tlhoke workshop gore o re tsenye mo tsena, the Minister o ka nna a address Mapalamente in classroom ka dikgang tsa dibuka tsa Budget ya lefatshe a workshop. Go ka tswa go padile eng motho wetsho la Botswana, le fa e le go le gonnyennyane. gore re wele foo, to avoid issues tsa go supasupana ka Re badile estimates tse go ya go tsena kwa the last page; menwana ka gore tota a common goal ke ya go fenya Page 30. Ke sone se o bonang mo Page 27 Honourable gore Budget be approved? Thank you. Matsheka, o supa gore o tsere P65,114,446 wa HIV o DR MATSHEKA: Ke a leboga Honourable Moswaane. o senang vote. Mo Government of Botswana, re bereka I think boammaaruri ke gore ga ke laole thulaganyo ya ka votes, ga o ka ke wa re o tsere P165 million yo o sa Palamente, re beile dipampiri tse fa pele ga Palamente supeng gore o tswa kwa vote efe. Figures tse dingwe tse ka molao o o leng teng. Ka jalo, gongwe go ka bo go ne tsotlhe, o supa gore o tsere mo vote efe, o isa kwa vote go eletsegile jaaka o bua gore go ka bo go ne go ntse efe. Jaanong se ntse o leka go nyenyafatsa Mapalamente jalo, go tima dikgang tsa gore ga re a kgona go tshwara o re ga ba na lesedi le kitso. Mapalamente ba rometswe mogopolo o o tshwanang. Jaanong ke bue le wena gore fa ba na le maitemogelo a gore ba buisa dibuka tse ke a dumalana gore gongwe go tlaa nna botlhokwa go ya tsa gago ka fa o di tsisitseng (submitted) ka teng. E kwa pele gore dilo tse di ntseng jaana di se ka tsa tlolwa bile gape, o tshwanetse o itse gore ga gona gope fa o ka gore di baka ketsaetsego le go tlhoka go utlwana le se rileng wa re o kopa Palamente, ke santse ke ipoeletsa, se beilweng fa pele ga lona. Ke a leboga mokaulengwe. in your speech to increase Total Estimated Cost (TEC) ka P138 million. Ga ke itse gore yo o badileng figures MR TSHERE: Thank you Honourable Speaker. Ke a di kgonamisa ke mang ka gore re bua ka figure e le boela kwa kgannyeng ele ka gore ka kwano ga ke kgone nngwefela, e re supileng gore o fetile ka yone. That is to raise point of procedure or anything. Mr Speaker, why ke sa bua ka figures tsa P104 wa Agriculture, tsa P20 ke ne ke alela kgang ya me. Kgang ya me ke gore a million wa Basic Education ka mabaka a gore o buile ka Minister o raya Palamente a re fa e le gore ba tlhoka adjustments, jaanong re tsamaya le ka fa o buileng ka ditlhaloso, ba tlaa di kopa, ene ga a tlhalose sepe? O re teng. Re na le culture Honourable Matsheka, ka fa re tlogela guessing in his ministry ka gore I see this pattern berekang ka teng mo teng ga lefatshe la Botswana le developing, whereby o bolelelwa karabo fela fa o botsa, Ntlo e. I thank you. fa o sa botse go didimalwa fela and it is assumed gore ke utlwile. I want to know gore a ke tsamaiso e re tlileng MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, o utlwile. I am not sure go tsamayang ka yone eo? Thank you. whether you want to add to that Minister before we call Honourable Moswaane. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, let us ask you to repeat yourself again because there is some interference DR MATSHEKA: O ka bitsa Honourable Moswaane. with what you were saying. Please repeat your question MR SPEAKER: …(Inaudible)... again, so that we do not interfere, o tswa o le clear.

…Silence… MR TSHERE: Oh! thank you Honourable Speaker and I thank you for giving me the opportunity again. MR SPEAKER: …(Inaudible)… gadgets are slow. Kgantele e ne e se gore ke tswa mo setlhogong, ke ne Honourable Moswaane, they are going to send an icon ke alela kgang ya me. Se ke se lemogang ke gore mo on which you should click. Palamenteng mo, fa Minister a tla a re fa the figures, tse dingwe ga a di bue, tse dingwe o tla a di beetse kwa MR MOSWAANE: Mr Speaker, a ke a utlwala? thoko, and then assumption is that re tlaa tlhaloganya MR SPEAKER: Ee rra. fela. Jaanong only when Honourable Members ask

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questions and probe him, ke gone a ntshang dikarabo. jaana, fa o lemoga sengwe, re tlaa araba fela sentle. Ke Jaanong ka re a tsamaiso e ke yone e e maleba gore a leboga Mr Speaker. Tona wa Madi nako le nako fa a tla kwano, o tla a re baya bobi mo matlhong fela, a sa re tlhalosetse go le MR SPEAKER: I think Honourable Members; you clear gore what is happening with the funds? That is my have done justice to what Honourable Reatile had concern and I want to know gore ke ka fa ba berekang observed. ka teng, re tlile go tswelela re bona a dira jalo, e le gore We still have a budget to go through and as I have o fitlha figures tse dingwe gore re se ka ra nna le kitso observed on the past two days, bagolo ba ntse ba gana e e tletseng mme go tlhoka gore re approve Budget fa re re we are not going to have an official 30 minutes Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke a leboga. break ka 4:00 p.m. when we are trying to save time MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, before the because as things go, at least 11 Members of Parliament Minister answers, I thought he said due to COVID-19 are not going to be able to debate the Second Reading, and other things, they would have liked to have the Pitso unless somehow, we agree to extend the hours, a day by after the papers have been given to you the Members one hour, until the tenth day of the Second Reading. So I of Parliament (MPs), so that these things are explained. think we have done justice, let us go back to the budget. He agrees that there is need to have a day, even after his Thank you Honourable Minister. speech, to go through this Budget so that Members can ask questions relating to anything, that may be in the figures or in his speech. APPROPRIATION 2021/2022 BILL, 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) Thirdly, that he has no intention of hiding any figures, indeed that the figures are before you, it is a matter of Second Reading interpretation so that we understand in the same way. But ga e ke e gangwa ka mogogorwana namane ya yone (Resumed Debate) e le teng. MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members. DR MATSHEKA: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo The debate on this Bill is resuming. When the House tsa Palamente. Ke leboge Honourable Tshere gore adjourned yesterday Honourable Molebatsi was on a botse jalo ka gore go botlhokwa gore re kgone go the floor debating and he was left with 13 minutes 24 neelana e bile re nne le nako ya go neelana mo polelong seconds. After Honourable Molebatsi we will call upon e ya Budget Speech, le Budget ka boyone. Kana re the Honourable Minister of Local Government and tshwanetse re farologanye Budget Speech le Budget. Rural Development Honourable Molale, who have been Budget Speech e buisa Budget jaaka e beilwe, mme ga interrupted by maranyane. re ka ke ra e bua yotlhe jaaka ba bangwe ba tsaya fa paragraphs tse dingwe di sa tsenngwa, re ka bo re e ASSISTANT MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, badile letsatsi lotlhe fa e ne e le gore o tsentse sengwe TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR MOLEBATSI): le sengwe mo teng. Jaanong bomosola jwa go akgela Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re before ke simolola debate, ke mo Budget Speech, ka boikokobetso le ka mafoko a a kopile maabane le kwa go Clerk gore kana Honourable siameng, ke go kgona gore dipotso di botswe, ba ba Minister Manake o ne a tsere metsotso e mengwe ya tlhalogantseng le ba ba sa tlhaloganyang ba botse. That me ka gore ke ne ke mo file clarification. Ka mabaka a is why go na le mo gotweng batho ba botsa dipotso, technology a palelwa ke go tsena, mme ga ja metsotso ba batla clarification, ka gore fa o dira jalo mme o mengwe ya me. Jaanong ke ne ke kopa metsotso e le itse gore o botsa sentle, o bua o batla go tlhaloganya, metlhano fela to compensate nako e ntsintsi e a e tsereng, ga gona molato. Mathata ke fa o ema fela o bo o re go gore 13 minutes oo a okediwe ka five. Ke a leboga Mr na le borukutlhi, people are unethical. That is what the Speaker. problem is. MR SPEAKER: O ja e mengwe fa o rialo, take the Jaanong Budget e jaaka e ntse jaana, e batla gore fa floor please. o kgonang teng, o botse gore ga o tlhaloganye eng. Ka jalo, ga gona maikaelelo ape a gore ope a se ka a MR MOLEBATSI: Mr Speaker, ga ke go utlwe, ga go tlhaloganya. Re tlaa tlhalosa. Fa le ntse le botsa dipotso kgonagale?

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MR SPEAKER: Tswelela ke tlaa bona. fa re dirang dilo ka teng, go tswa fela kwa bogoging kwa godimo gore, a ko re direng mo ka Sekgoa gotweng MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, o mogolo Result Based Management. A sengwe le sengwe se se o tlaa bona. Mr Speaker, fa ke neng ke eme teng dirwang ke ope yo o filweng thomo ya Puso, a go lebiwe maabane ke buile ka boleele segolo ke gateletse gone se gore a mme maduo o a dira. A re se ka ra leba dithutego, kwa dikgaolong se se tshwanetseng gore se dirwe, gore a re se ka ra leba gore motho o na le experience e kae. budget e itebaganye le dikole le dipatela, tsa botsogo, A re fetoleng megopolo re boneng gore a motho o ntsha jaaka re bona gore jaanong bo a imelwa e le mathata a maduo. Jaanong Zero Based Budgeting e tsamaelana COVID-19. E itebaganye le infrastructure ka gore ga re le se ke se buang sa Result Based Budgeting, mme e sa tlhola re bona madi kwa re neng re a bona teng thata. tsamaelana le Result Based Management. Ke santse ke Mma ke re tse dintsi Mr Speaker, ke tlaa di tlogelela gatelela gore a re lebeleleng gore batho ba ntsha maduo, mongwe ka nna kwa lephateng tsa ministry, tse di buang a go se ka ga oshaoshiwa fa maduo a pala, a motho a ka kgwebo, o tlaa tla a di bua mo pegong ya gagwe. supe. Ke gone re ka yang golo gongwe mo Pusong ya Fa ke tsena on Budget Mr Speaker, re lemoga gore Rre rona, gore re fitlhelele tsotlhe tse ke reng re ka di bua. Matsheka go tla ga gagwe o tlile ka mokgwa wa budget Jaanong ke gatelela Rre Matsheka a ntheeditse gore o mosha o re o itumelelang o gotweng Zero Based Result Based Budgeting mo Botswana go ya kwa pele Budgeting... ke yone gongwe e ka re thusang. Mafatshe a tsamaya MR SPEAKER: Honourable Molebatsi, you are being kgakala, mafatshe a Organisation for Economic Co- interrupted ga ke itse gore eng, your voice is not flowing operation and Development (OECD) a a e dirisa, as I know it. There is some turbulence somewhere, try lefatshe la United States of America, states di le dintsi again please. Your connections are not appearing to be ba setse ba dirile molao o gotweng budgeting for results what we expect them to be. o ba o tsentseng ka 2010, mme ba raya yone Result Based Budgeting. Fa madi a setšhaba a tsentswe a go MR MOLEBATSI: Mr Speaker, se ke se lemogang lebiweng gore madi a teng a nna le maduo. Motsamaisa kwano fa ke ntse ke tsweletse, there is someone who Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente ke bo ke bua gape gore a is unmuting and muting me ke tsweletse. Fa ke neng ke budget e re fa e dirwa jaana re tle ka mokgwa wa gore le teng Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re Rre Matsheka o tlile ka budget e covers mongwe le mongwe. Ke a itse gore mogopolo o mosha o re sa o tlwaelang, o montlentle wa madi ga a ka ke a lekana to cover lefatshe lotlhe. Zero Based Budgeting, kana fa o lebelela ka mekwalo, se Go na le mo gotweng value for money, gore a go nne se kwadilweng, literatures available le experiences kwa le gore a go nna efficient, effective. Go bonwe gore e dirisitsweng teng, e bofefo, e na le bontle thata, e na le go effective kwa madi a yang teng. Re se ka ra tsenya maduo. Kana ka fa e buang ka teng e na le mo gotweng madi fela. Ke na le go fa sekai ka Integrated Support effectiveness, gantsi e supa gore gone kwa madi a tlileng Programme for Arable Agriculture Development go dirisiwa teng go supa eng, execution of plan task. (ISPAAD) ka fa e neng e le teng, kwa ga rona kwa Gantsi e supa le gore madi a gotweng a tlaa dirisiwa go Mmadinare, ke fa sekai fela, batho ba tlaabo ba fiwa nna boammaaruri gole kae, correctness ...(Inaudible)… ISPAAD re bo re itse gore ba tlaabo ba lema, fa ba estimated expenditure, go nna boammaaruri go le kae. sena go nna ba lema ba tsere madi a Puso ba a sia, ba Le efficiencyya yone e efficient kana e tsamaelana sentle tshaba ditlou, ke gore re lemela ditlou. Ke tsone dilo tse fela thata, e na le maduo ka bokhutshwane, mme kana re tshwanetseng gore go ya kwa pele bagaetsho re di ga a ka a tlhalosa gore kana Zero Based Budgeting fa e lebe gore economy efficiency le effectiveness ya tiriso tlisiwa, gone kwa ba e dirisitseng pele mo dikomponeng ya madi a Batswana re ya kae ka yone. Se sengwe se tse di tona tsa bo Ford Motor, Kellogg Corporation, le ke batlang gore ke se gatelele mo go tsone bo three Es; United Nations e ne ya tla ka programmes reform ya Economy, Efficiency le Effectiveness, ke na le E wa bo United Nations, e tla ka Kofi Annan, a mowa wa gagwe four wa Equity and inclusiveness. Fa Budget e e ka o robale ka kagiso. Fa e tla jaana ga e tle e le nosi, e dira gore go ya kwa pele e re fa re e dira e bo e le gore supa le gore e nna le Result Based Management, e it covers le se ke neng ke se bua gore, a mongwe le tshwanetse go supa gore e na le dikai tsa ditlamorago mongwe a nne le leatso mo mading a budget ya rona. tse di siameng. E tle e ntse fela jalo, ka tsela e ntseng Ke ne ke bua maabane ke lela gore go bogologolo re sa jalo. Go tsamaelana le se ke neng ke se bua maabane bone sepe sa ditlhabololo. Mopalamente wa kwa Boteti gore, gongwe re fetole ka fa re akanyang ka teng, ka le ene o ne a bua maloba a re, le bone ke leshekere fela.

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Fa o ne o reeditse, go na le Mopalamente yo mongwe o MR SPEAKER: Dr Gobotswang, you have your hand ne a bua gore, kwa go ene o solofetse clinics di ka nna up. five mo kgaolong ya gagwe mo National Development Plan 11, o bo o bona gore go ka tlisa ketsaetsego mo …Silence… bathong gore, fa re ka re re ya kwa pele re lebe golo mo MR SPEAKER: Honourable Reatile, your hand is also sentle. Ka Sekgoa go na le ba bangwe ba ba dirang jalo up, what for? Honourable Monnakgotla, everyone in kwa mafatsheng a mangwe. Kwa United Kingdom ba row three, why are your hands up? dira jalo, ba na le mo gotweng Whole of Government Approach (WGA) gore Goromente covers mongwe le HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker. mongwe and mongwe le mongwe o ipolelela gore is MR SPEAKER: Dr Gobotswang. part of it. E seng gore gompieno fa go na le Budget e bo e le gore mafelo a mangwe ke spectators, fa gongwe DR GOBOTSWANG: Yes, go ne go jemile (jammed) re bona e le gore go dirwa dikokelo, kgopho ya metsi Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke kopa point of clarification from mo motseng o le mongwe fela, go tsenngwa phones, Honourable Assistant Minister. go a reng, mme ba bangwe re le babogedi fela. Ke itse gore ke planning e e tswang kgakala re e dirisa. Gongwe MR SPEAKER: Honourable Molebatsi, Honourable budgeting go ya kwa pele re e lebe ka tsela e ntseng jalo. Dr Gobotswang is asking for clarification. A go nne le mo gotweng value for money office, gore jaaka ke ne ke bua fa re ntshitse madi go nne le office e e MR MOLEBATSI: Mr Speaker, I am complaining leng gore ke ya ga Goromente e lebile dilo tse. Dilo tse about this, go na le motho who mutes me. I am being ke di buela go ya kwa pele, di ka tswa di seyo gompieno. muted fa ke ntse ke bua jaana. Go ahead Honourable Dr Fa go na le value for money office re bone gore a mme Gobotswang. madi a ga Goromente a dirisiwa fela sentle. DR GOBOTSWANG: Mr Speaker, Honourable Rraetsho re ne re bua gore kana ga gona madi. Ga re na Assistant Minister, sorry. Assistant Minister Molebatsi, madi ga re sa tlhole re dira madi, mme go raya gore re go na le kgang e e buegang thata ka bangwe ba phathi e fokotse ka fa Goromente a dirisang madi ka teng. Ee go e busang gore ditlhabololo tse di beetswe dikgaolo tse boammaaruri, go ntse jalo, nngwe ya dilo tse di neng di di laolwang ke Mapalamente a Domkrag. Ke itse gore buiwa e ne e le gore gongwe go fokodiwe bodirelapuso, Mmadinare mo dingwageng tse 54 re ntse re ipusa, e bo bo ntsi thata. ntse e le mo diatleng tsa Domkrag. Jaanong ga ke itse gore kgang eo wa reng ka yone Honourable Assistant Ga re sa tlhole re ka nna le bodirelapuso jo bo kalokalo. Minister? Thank you. Ke dumalana le gone. Ke dumela gore o tlaa ya go tsena mo ofising e nngwe, yo mongwe o baya stamp, o bo o MR SPEAKER: Honourable Molebatsi, a ke kgang ya feta o tsena mo go e nngwe, yo mongwe o a staple. O gago? fitlhela fa gongwe batho ba nna bantsi thata mo go sa tlhokafaleng. MR MOLEBATSI: Hei! Karabo ke gore ga go a nna jalo ka gore o a bona gore jaaka ke ne ke bua, go Kgang e Tona ka ke itse gore bangwe bagarona, mme saletse kwa morago ka ditlhabololo. Go raya gore ga go go le boammaaruri, gongwe ba ka se ka ba dumalane le diragale jaaka o bua gore di beetswe maDomkrag fela. gore batho ba ka kgaolwa, ke gore re ba isa kae jaaka Mma ke tswelele Mr Speaker. re ba ntsha gone moo? Ke sale ke buile gore mananeo a teng, go batla re baakanye a a teng a bo Citizen MS MONNAKGOTLA: On a point of clarification Mr Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) gore go Speaker. Thank you Mr Speaker and good afternoon. Ke nne le lenaneo le le tlaa dirang gore fa motho a tswa kwa botse Tona gore a ke utlwa fa a re badirelapuso ba ba a bo a o itse gore ke le le focused for batho ba ba tswang lekanang le ene ba ka neelwa packages ba tsamaya a mo Pusong, re ba neela. Segolobogolo re rotloetsa ba bo a re e bile ba ka direlwa mananeo? Ke mmotse gore ba dingwaga ditona ba ba kanang ka nna, ba ba 50 go a ke ba botlhe ba e leng businessmen ba e tlaa reng ba ya kwa godimo gore fa a tswa mo Pusong go bo go tswa ba bo ba ya go bula dikgwebo? Go na le batho na le kwa a itseng gore fa a volunteer go tswa, re mo ba e leng businessmen. Ke mmotse gore a wa re fa ba neela sengwe, re mo neela madi, re mo rutuntsha go dira tswa ba neelwe packages ba ye go dira dikgwebo? A ba kgwebo a bo a hira le ba bangwe. Selo seo se botlhokwa bangwe ba na le kgatlhego ya dikgwebo? Ke a leboga thata. Mr Speaker.

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MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a leboga Honourable MR MOLEBATSI: Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re SOEs di Monnakgotla. Nnyaa, yo o tsayang package gore a fiwe marapo otlhe. Re le Puso, re le Matona, fa e le sa ye go nna kwa lelwapeng la gagwe, go ntse ga go na lephata la rona ka kwano, ke oversight fela. Fa board mathata. Se ke se buang ke gore re fokotse burden marapo gore e hire Chief Executive Officer (CEO) and ya bodirelapuso jo bontsi mo go Goromente. Ke a go monitor SOEs. E se ka ya nna gore fa re ya kwa pele tlhomamisetsa Mma Monnakgotla gore bontsi jwa gongwe re ba hirele batho, re dire jaana, e nne dilo tse badirelapuso ba rata kgang e. Batho ba mo diofising fela re ka di sekasekang. Gongwe ba ka nna effective, ba nna ka gore fa ba ka tswela kwa ntle, ga go na se ba ka se le maduo. dirang. Ba bangwe ba santse ba duela school fees tsa bana le mortgages. Fa ba ka ya go itirela, botshelo jwa Re buile gape le gore Goromente o fetola gore re lebe bone bo tlaa tswelela, re fokoditse burden e ntsintsi mo ka fa re ka dirang ditirelo ka teng jaaka Public Private go Goromente. Partnerships (PPPs). Re tswa kgakala re bua ka selo se. Boammaaruri ke gore policy ya PPP re sale re e dira ka Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, re ne re bua ngwaga wa 2000. E ne e le teng ka budget ya 2002/2003. ka State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) gore le tsone re Ke bua boammaaruri e ne e le teng. Re e buile ka fokotse burden ya madi mo go Goromente mo go tsone, National Development Plan (NDP) 9. Re solofetse gore segolo tse di sa direng sentle, tse dingwe re di kgaole, gompieno ka Puso e ya rona, ya ga Rre Masisi, e ke leng mo go yone le Rre Matsheka, go tlaa diragala, PPP tse dingwe re di reng. Ke ratile kgang e a neng a re re di policy e ya go dirwa. E tsamaya sentle kwa mafatsheng privatise. Fa re ka di itaya ka selepe tsotlhe ra di kgaola, a mangwe. Fa o ka lebelela kwa Algeria, Angola, Benin gongwe go ka oketsa letlhoko la ditiro. Fa di ka isiwa le Burundi, e dirile ditlhabololo tse dintsi. Ke selo se re mo matsogong a bagwebi ba ikemetseng ka nosi, e se tshwanetseng go se lebelela fela thata. Goromente, ba ka tswelela ba hirile batho. Re ne re bua gore gongwe Goromente a simolole go Re e lebe thata. Mma ke fe sekai, fa e le gore go ne kokoanya madi ka lekgetho jaaka re ne re bona Value go akantswe SPEDU gore e ka kgaolwa mme mongwe Added Tax (VAT) e okediwa. Ke selo se se botlhoko, a tswa koo, mma ke re Rre Molosi a batla go tsaya mme ga go na gore re ka dira jang. Re ne re ntse re itse SPEDU, o ka tswelela ka sone a bone gore o ka dira gore go tlaa diragala ka gore VAT ya rona e kwa tlase mo madi ka tsela e e ntseng jang, ba buisanya le Goromente. mafatsheng. Gongwe ke ka utlwa fa mongwe segolo a Yo o batlang Air Botswana, a a tswelele ka yone fela ne a re re eme COVID e fete fela jaaka kwa mafatsheng jalojalo. a mangwe. Ba ne ba fokotsa VAT kwa Kenya because of COVID. Re tshwanetse go tla mo seemong sa gore Mma ke tshwaele sengwe gore tse di salang a re neeleng re kgethise batho mo lefatshe le ka kgonang go bona SOEs marapo a gore ba di tsamaise. Badirelapuso jaaka sengwe. nna jaana kana bangwe, ga se gore re itse business Go na le makgetho mangwe a re tshwanetseng gore le rotlhe. We must fully corporatize those SOEs… one re a tsenye mo tirisong. Carbon tax jaaka a e tsentse HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… jaana, go tlhokafala gore re dire jalo. A re simololeng go tsaya madi ka lekgetho la plastic. MR SPEAKER: On what point Honourable Ramogapi? Re gagamatse ka go tsaya makgetho, go na le lekgetho MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. le ke tlholang ke bua ka lone, tota ke levy, ga ke itse gore levy ka Setswana ke eng, ke tsaya gore ke lekgetho. Fa MR SPEAKER: On what point? motho a duela petrol, go na le lekgetho le a le duelang, MR RAMOGAPI: O a nkutlwa Mr Speaker? fa o reka petrol gotwe ke P8.00 per litre, go na le lekgetho le o le duelang la storage and handling, le e MR SPEAKER: Ee, ke a go botsa gore on what point? leng 8 thebe fa ke tshwara sentle. Fa le sale le tsenngwa, Goromente o ntse gongwe a sa le tseye. Rre Matsheka MR RAMOGAPI: Ehe! Nna ka re wa re ke debate Mr a gagamatse, lekgetho leo re le tseye ba ba le kolotang Speaker. ba salwe morago, ka ke dikompone tse di tona tse, ba le MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, le diela Tona nako. Honourable duele. Le sale le simolola ka 2009 fa ke tshwara sentle, Molebatsi, tswelela. mme kana batho ba ntse ba sa le duele...

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MR SPEAKER: Honourable Molebatsi, one minute reng go kgethisiwa bahumanegi, go tlogelwa bahumi. left. Fa re ne re badile Budget Speech e ya ga Rre Matsheka o rile, go tlaa baakanngwa e bile go ya go tsholediwa seelo MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke sa gore go simolole go kgethisiwa batho ka dipalo tse di gatelela gore a go nne le maduo, re kgone go ya kwa fa kae. O rile we are moving from 36 to 48 thousand per pele. A go sekasekiwe gore mongwe le mongwe a ntshe annum. Ke gore gompieno e ntse e re fela fa o amogela maduo, yo o palelwang a fiwepackage a ye kwa ga bone, madi a a fetang P36 000 ka ngwaga, ke gore P3, 000 ka le rona babusi re le mo teng. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. kgwedi, o bo o kgetha. Gompieno a re, a re simolole MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND go kgethisa ka kwa ga P4, 000. Re le bantsi re a itse RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Ke a gore dituelo tsa rona ga di ise di tsene mo selekanyong leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Maabane sa gore batho ba le bantsi ba ka kgethisiwa. Bontsi jwa ke ne ka nna le kgoreletsego mo go akgeleng ka ntata ya rona re wela gone foo, mo go rayang gore he is sensitive maranyane, ke sone se ke lebogang gore o bo o mphile to the needs of the lower income bracket. Ga go na ka monyetla o wa gore ke akgele e bile ke na le wena at fa go ka tweng go kgethisiwa bahumanegi, go tlogelwa the Chamber. bahumi.

Mr Speaker, e rile maabane ke simolola ka bua gore ka Re a itse le mo Value Added Tax (VAT), gore go na le dilo boammaaruri ke eme kopo ya ga Dr Matsheka nokeng. tse e leng gore they are zero rated, tse di lebaganyeng Budget e a re e beileng pele e tsamaisana le se re neng le gore ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane, ba kgone go reka re se bua maloba ka Palamente e e neng e feta, fa re ka ditlhwatlhwa tse di kwa tlase. Ke ganetsa kgang ya amogela re bo re rurifatsa the Economic Recovery gore go lebilwe fela gore go kgethisiwe bahumanegi, go and Transformation Plan (ERTP); recovery ka gore re tlogelwe bahumi. Selo seo ke go tsietsa Motswana. tlhasetswe ke COVID-19. Fa o ya le pages tsa budget Re tshwanetse ra lemoga gape gore, a ke tlhwatlhwa ya gagwe, o a bona gore o arabisana le manokonoko ya petrol, VAT kana lekgetho, mo tikologong ya Borwa a COVID e re a tliseditseng. Dilo di pedi tse motho jwa Aforika, Botswana e kwa tlase mo mafatsheng a. a tshwanetseng go di leba, ke mo gotweng social Le jaaka go okediwa jaana, nnyaa, ga re ise re kgome welfare ya Batswana bogolo jang ba ba gateletsweng, bontsi jwa mafatshe a ke buang ka one. Golo mo go le itsholelo. E re ntswa go na le ba ba latolang, ke supa kelelelo le kakanyo ya gore mosutisi wa this setse thulaganyo ya ga Dr Matsheka morago e bile ke Appropriation Bill, o akantse, o lebile, a sekaseka a bo e etse tlhoko gore fa re tsena mo social welfare, o dirile a bona gore we are treading a narrow path, mme mo go go le gontsi. Ke ka a fa dikai Mr Speaker, o ntshitse reng re kgone go tshela motshelakgabo o, ke fa re ka P1.3 billion e a e bitsang Industry Support Fund, gore dira jang le jang, re sa kokonele ba bantsi. itsholelo e se ka ya phutlhama. Ga ke itse gore a go dira jalo ke go ja madi a Puso. O ntshitse madi a welfare, Re tshwanetse ra lemoga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa a kwa go nna ke neng ka a dirisa e bile ke santse ke a Palamente gore, jaaka ke buile, itsholelo ga e a amega dirisa, e seng go tlhokomela ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane mo Botswana fela. Mafatshe otlhe a leka go dira mo fela, le gore kwa dikoleng tse di potlana re baakanye go gotweng recovery. Ke ka a fa sekai gore tomagano ya thusa gore ba kgone go laola COVID-19 e se ka ya tsena mafatshe ao le rona ke e e ntseng jang. Gompieno jaana bana. Dilo tse Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo, ke tsone dikao kwa America, Tautona yo o gorogang o bua ka $1.9 tse di supang gore our ERTP e mo tseleng e a diragala. trillion recovery. A bua gore o oketsa the purchasing E ka tswa e ise e ye (cover) mo lefatsheng lotlhe kgotsa power ya moAmerica. Lomaganya seo le rona kwano, sectors tsotlhe tsa itsholelo, mme there is always a first kana purchasing power go raya gore go na le ba ba step to everything. Tumelo ya me ke gore, a re emeng tlaabong ba oketsega ba reka diteemane tsa rona, letseno Dr Matsheka le Puso e ya ga Domkrag nokeng, gore tse le bo le oketsega. Ke tsone dilo tse re tshwanetseng go tsotlhe tse di mo ERTP di dirwe ka bofefo. di leba, gona le gore e nne e kete re ganetsa fela.

Kana madi a ke a buang a, a tshwanetse go tswa golo Ke batla gore tota fela ke bue ka kgang nngwe, e e gongwe. Re a itse gore letseno la rona e ntse e le neng ya buiwa ke mokaulengwe mongwe wa rona. Yo diteemane, diteemane ka ntata yone ya COVID-19 theko o neng a batla go senya le gone ka lenyatso gore, fa o ya tsone e ntse e se e e kalokalo. Letseno le le setseng utlwa gotwe go kgethisiwa sukiri jaana, go tewa gotwe ke lekgetho. Ke batla go itlhaganelela go ganetsa ba ba basadibagolo ba se ka ba nwa tee le go loka motogo.

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That is cheap politics. Fa o bala Paragraph 134, e bua we provide. Ke gone mo go tlaa re thusang, re bo re ka beverages tse rona ba re rutilweng ka go itlhokomela, lemoge gore it may be that ga se gore the public service re bone gore sukiri e se ka ya nna ntsi mo mebeleng is oversubscribed, ke gore there is a skewness towards ya rona. Ba a re bolelela gore mo tin ya Coke ya 300 administrative and other support staff but the relevant milliliters, go tsentswe sukiri e e lekanang le ya kopi. skills at the clinics, bolemising, le kwa kae, e le gore Mosadimogolo ene fa a loka tee, o tsenya teaspoons tse ga go ise go lekane. Ke sone se ke reng, kgang e ya pedi mo koping eo. Jaanong, ga go a tshwanela gore go rightsizing, ga se puo fela ya gore go tewe batho gotwe, bo go tshwantshiwa dilo tse di sa tshwaneng. tswang, tswang, nnyaa. Go a buisanngwa e bile go na le metlhale e mentsi e e ka dirisiwang gore go baakanngwe Go dira gore batho ba nne le ketsaetsego, ba bo ba se bodirelapuso mo Pusong. ka ba dumela mo go reng Puso e ba direla molemo. Jaanong ke ne ke kopa gore dilo tse di buiwe ka fa di Fa ke feta eo Mr Speaker, ke batla go tsena mo lebanyeng ka teng, e seng go di nyefola. itsholelong le kgolo ya yone. The heartbeat of any economy, bogolo jang mo Africa ke the Small, Medium Ke tsena mo kgannyeng ya bobedi Motsamaisa and Micro Enterprises (SMMEs) and Botswana is no Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Go builwe ka public service exception. Puso e e lekile e bile e a dira gore re leke rightsizing, ke dumalana le yone, mme e seng ka fa e go rotloetsa tsone SMMEs gore di nne le letseno. Kwa buiwang ka teng ke ba bangwe. Go na le ditsetlana le ministry o ke santseng ke o okametse, re na le strategy ditsamaiso tse di leng teng tsa gore go ka fokodiwa public se se bidiwang Local Economic Development Strategy, service go sa kokonele bodirelapuso. Re na le selo se se se reng, tse di leng foo, go na le bagwebi ba ba gotweng Early Exit Policy e e saleng e simolola go dira botlana foo, a Puso e reke, e reke e ise kwa Government ka 2004, e e ka dirisiwang gore go nne le dipuisanyo le institutions like schools. Ra ba ra fetola le menus tsa unions le ba ba amegang badirelapuso. Ka tlwaelo fa dikole to suit dilo tse di ka dirwang foo. Jaanong sebe motho a tlogela tiro, o a bo a na le package e e kana, sa phiri ke gore, go na le fa go senyegang teng, mme mme fa e le gore ke early exit, o ka okelediwa ka bokae. go tshwanetse ga baakanngwa ka gore strategy se clear. Gape ke batla gore go lemogiwe the interconnectedness Go nna le bo middleman ba ba jang balemi ntsoma ya kgang e. Kana fa go dirwa early exit, motho a neelwa madi a a fetang a a tlaabong a a neelwe fa a retire, o bogolo jang. Ke gore fa o ya sekoleng, o utlwa gotwe tshwanetse gape a sidilwa maikutlo, a bo a thusiwa gore lee le rekiwa ka P2.50, mme fa o ya kwa moleming, o le a tle a ye go dira business kgotsa a ye go dira ditsela rekisitse mo mongweng ka P1. O ipotsa gore P1.50 yo, tse dingwe tsa botshelo gore a itshetse. Jaanong re na o jelwe ke mang? Ke tsone dilo tse rona Mapalamente, le ditsamaiso tse ka tsone bodirelapuso jo bo ka fiwang maloba re ne re rutiwa ka community score card, ke dikitso tsa gore e re pele fa ba tsamaya, ba itse gore ba tsone tools tse re tshwanetseng go di dirisa go bona gore ka ya go itshetsa jang. Ga se gore go dirwa fela go bo go re dira jang gore batho kwa dikgaolong ba nne le letseno nna gotwe, come on, tswa fa. le le utlwalang e bile Goromente a thusa gore letsone leo le nne teng. Ke tlhola ke raya ba ba kwa kgaolong ya me Re na le ditsamaiso tsa gore jaaka Rre Matsheka a ne ke re, Goromente… a bua, posts tse di vacant be frozen, di sa ame ope yo o leng gore go tlaabo gotwe o kobiwa mo tirong. Le tse MR SPEAKER: Honourable Saleshando, you had your batho ba tswang mo go tsone, di name di eme pele. Selo hand up. se se tona se ke batlang go se gatelela ke gore, bontsi …Silence… jwa posts tse e leng gore ga se tse di ka re amang thata fa batho ba dule mo go tsone, ke tse gantsi re di bonang in MR SALESHANDO: Yes, Mr Speaker, but o setse a the Government enclave here ka gore kwa dikgaolong, fetile se ke neng ke batla go mmotsa ka sone, so let me ga re ise re achieve our staffing norms. not disturb him.

Mma ke fe sekai, clinic with maternity ward, e filwe MR MOLALE: Ke a leboga. Re tlhola re bua kwa gore for it to function effectively, ke fa e na le midwives kgaolong gore Puso e rile SMMEs ga ba tlhokiwe di le kae, e bereka 24 hours ke fa e na le nurses di le Company Registration le Income Tax Returns ka gore kae, jalojalo. As it is now, ga re ise re goroge koo. So we ke bagwebi ba ba botlana, ba ba thusiwang gore ba must strike a balance between rightsizing and meeting thuthuge, a ba ikwadise fela fa sekoleng to supply. The the requirements tsa staffing norms of the services that only requirement ke gore ba lere quality food ka gore go

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jesiwa bana ba e leng gore are vulnerable, go itsa gore e bo e wa. Jaanong selo se Rre Honourable Healy, re ba se ka ba tsenwa ke malwetse a dijo tse di sa siamang. santse re eme ka dinao go lwantshana le sone ka gore, Golo fa go na le ketsaetsego ka gore gangwe le gape o it is a mindset issue. E a bo e se gore madi ga a yo kana utlwa go ntse gotwe go tulwe ke ntshe Company Return, those that can process payments ga ba yo. E a bo e se ke ikwadise (register) ke le company ke lere Income Tax gore Goromente ga a kgathale. It is a mindset issue ya Returns, nnyaa, ga go ise go tualo. the client and those providing a service. Jaaka ke ne ke bua, the Community Score Card (CSC) e e neng e Selo se sengwe, ke dituelo tse di diegang tse kwa rutwa maloba ke Mr Speaker, it should take us a long dikhanseleng ke buileng le bone kgapetsakgapetsa fa e way in ensuring gore dilo tse, we check go sa lowe, go sale ngogola gore nnyaa bagaetsho, motho fa a tlisitse sa omanwe. Go bona gore a di a diragala because they dilo, le di dirisitse, a a duelwe. Go se ka ga tsaya four affect household level economies. to nine months ka gore motho yoo fa gongwe le ene, o a bo a kolotile inputs golo gongwe. Dilo tse Batswana ba Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ntlha e nngwe tshwanetse go di itse, ba bo ba rulaganya gore fa e leng ke ya infrastructure mo dikgaolong. Re mo seemong se gore ba bona go sa diragale jaaka ke bua gompieno, ba e leng gore bontsi jwa infrastructure ya rona is decaying. re tlhabe podi matseba, re tle re ba thuse. Tota Budget e ya gompieno, it did not cater golo moo. Re simolole go bona gore streetlights di a baakanngwa Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, mme ke bue ka le dilo tse tsotlhe. Ke kopa gore mo Budget ya ngwaga bokhutshwane ka… e, go se ka ga latlhwa this zero-based budgeting. Re MR SPEAKER: Honourable Healy! lebe tse re nang le tsone gore re di baakanya jang gore di boele mo seemong sa tiriso e e lolameng. Fa re ka HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification Mr se ke re dire jalo, re tlaabo re senya se re neng re se Speaker. ikokotleleditse. Batho ga ba na go itumelela go bona dilo tse ba ka bong ba di dirisa di ba sologela molemo, MR MOLALE: Granted. jaanong di sa tlhola di ba sologela molemo.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: On a point of Selo se sengwe ke decentralisation; ke buile maloba, clarification. Thank you Rre Molale, ke lebogela this ka bo ka solofetsa gore ke simolotse morero wa response. Rre Molale, kgang yone e o ntseng o e bua ya decentralisation. Ke tsamaya le dikhansele. Fa e ne e timely payments, kana Goromente o setse a le committed se spike sa December sa COVID, ke ka bo ke setse ke gore o ya go duela bagwebi within two weeks. Jaanong tsweletse. Fa ke fetileng teng kwa North East, Ghanzi le ke ne batla go itse gore kwa lephateng la lona, because Kgalagadi, ba dumalana le the Draft Decentralisation ke lengwe la maphata that deals with SMMEs jaaka o Policy. Target ya rona ke gore, e re ka June sitting, bua, le atumetse go le kae seelo se le se ipeetseng seo sa re bo re neela Palamente this draft policy gore re e two weeks? Fa e le gore ga le ise le goroge, le dira eng sekaseke, re bone gore re ka dira jang. We should further go atumela seelo seo? Ke a leboga mongwame. decentralise nearer to where the services are provided.

MR MOLALE: Ke a leboga Honourable Healy. Seelo Selo se sengwe Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, seo re se re ipeetse ka gone go itse gore go tsaya lebaka ke interconnectedness ya dilo tse re ntseng re di bua o sa duele motho, o a bo o mo diga mo kgwebong ya tsa bodirelapuso le ditirelo kwa dikgaolong. Gantsi gagwe. Ke sone se re itlamileng, nna le bathusi ba me bodirelapuso fa gotwe bo ya transfer kwa dikgaolong, gore re tsamaye le dikhansele, re ba lemotshe selo se, o fitlhela go se na matlo. Re buile gore Ipelegeng re bo re tlhole through monitoring and evaluation, go e fetotswe, e ka aga infrastructure and compliment bonwe gore a mme re wela gone foo. constituency projects. Fa gongwe Ipelegeng e duele labour for constituency projects gore dikgaolo di reke Sebe sa phiri ke gore, ba ba kolotiwang fa gongwe materials. Ke selo se re se buileng. E bile ke kopa lona when they report kwa go rona, ba tewa gotwe, “o tswa Mapalamente gore golo moo re go tshwaraganele, re ise to report, ga o na go tlhola o bona tender.” Selo se, se thuto e kwa bathong. tshwanetse sa kgalemiwa. Ke kopa Batswana gore ba se ka ba ikgogona ba re ba tshaba go timiwa tenders ka Kwa bofelong, ke tlaa boa ke ipoeletsa, tota dilo di gore fa a sa e timiwa a e fiwa, go tshwana fela ka gore pedi fela tse re di tlhokang; ke metsi kwa kgaolong ya o ya go duelwa 12 months later and business ya gago Goodhope-Mabule. Re a itse gore e ne ya re ka 2019

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Palamente ele, batho ba tsietsa ba bangwe ba re, fa go koo ka three maphakela. Ke gore o tsena ka 6 a.m. a ntshiwa madi a metsi a isiwa kwa Morolong le mafelo a bo a robala mo sepateleng kwa ntle, mo go ngomolang mangwe, ke maretshwa a Domkrag, e batla go ya go reka pelo, mo go feteletseng. Re ikuetse kwa go Dikoloti. campaign materials. Ke ne ka bua gore kana bagaetsho, Lelatisitswe o ne a tsamaya a ya go lebelela a re, “ah! setlhako se fisa morwadi wa sone. Jaanong legale ke a go tlhabisa ditlhong jang.” Fa a se na gore go tlhabisa itumela ka Rre Mzwinila o simolotse metsi a e tla kwa ditlhong jang, ke bo ke nna le tsholofelo ya gore o tlaa Morolong. Le tsone ditsela ke bua le Rre Segokgo. Ka tla ka lenaneo la go re thusa. Se se botlhoko, ba gana ka Sunday re dumalane gore we would tour go bona gore a sepatela. Se sale se kopiwa ka nako ya ga Rre Mogae e o ka re thusa bogolo jang kwa Borobadilepe, Sekhutlane le Mopalamente. Akanya fela gore fa Tautona Mogae a le Gathwane. ne a rata go ikgagapelela, a rata go isa dilo kwa ga bone, se ka bo se sale sa agilwe ka dinako tsele. Se sale se MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much Honourable tsena mo lenaneong la NDP ka nako ya ga Rre Mogae. Minister. Ga tsena Rre Sebetela a ntse a lela ka sone. Ga tsena MR MOLALE: Ke a leboga sir. Goya a ntse a lela ka sone. Le nna ke tsene, ke ntse ke lela ka sone. Gompieno ga ke na go ba tlogela. Ke ya go MR SPEAKER: I should give the floor to a Member of ba tlhodia fela ka sepatela se go fitlhelela se bo se agiwa. the opposition. Se se botlhoko ga go na ngaka, mooki le ope fela. Ke MR RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): Ke a leboga Mr batla go bolelela batho ba Palapye gore, lesang go Speaker. Mma ke simolole ka go go leboga go bo o omanya baoki le dingaka ka tsela e e feteletseng. Le ntse mphile sebakanyana le motsotsonyana o. Ke simolole le re nnyaa, kana batho ga ba le tlhokomele. Mathata ke ka go leboga Rre Matsheka. Gantsi gatwe rona fa re bua Domkrag, ga se baoki le dingaka. Mathata ke Dikoloti, ba kganetso, ga re leboge. Ke mo lebogele dilo di le ke Domkrag, a ba tswe mo baoking. Baoki le dingaka tharo. Selo sa ntlha, Rre Matsheka o ne a baya dilo mo ga go na se ba ka se itirang ka gore ba a tlhaela. Se se mpepeneneng kana mo gotweng transparency. A supa diragalang ke se se ngomolang pelo Mr Speaker. gore kana madi a lefatshe a fedile, ga go sa tlhole go na Mr Speaker, mathata a Palapye rraetsho ke ditsela, le sepe mo letloleng. Golo moo fa e ne e le bangwe, ba metse e menyennyane e tla maabane fela jaana, mme ka bo ba lekile go go fitlha ka ditsela dipe fela. Le fa ke e setse e na le internal roads le dipatela. Taxis ga di sa dumalane le gore madi a fedile, ke mo lebogele gore tsamae kwa Palapye. Ambulances tse di isang balwetse, gone moo o go buile. dikoloi tsa Fire tse di timang molelo Mr Speaker, ga di tsamae ka gore ga di na ditsela. Ke gore dibambara tse di Sa bobedi, ke bo ke mo lebogele gape gore o beile dilo feteletseng, fa pula e nele jaana, ke selelo le khuruanyo mo mpepeneneng gore lefatshe la Botswana le senya ya meno. fela thata mo go feteletseng. O supile ka dipalo gore fa go diriwa projects di le 100, di le 40 di ya kwa dustbin Fa re bua ka ditsela, ka fa thoko Mr Speaker, go kana di a thubiwa, ke gore 37 per cent. Tshenyo e e tshwanetse go nne le storm water drainage; mesele ya kanakana e a neng a supa gore Puso ya Domkrag e a e kgopo ya metsi a a leswe. Mr Speaker, metsi a tsenelela senya. Fa e ne e le mongwe, o ka bo a e lobile mme o batho mo dijarateng ka tsela e e gakgamatsang, mme supile gore, nnyaa, le a senya maDomkrag. A baya dilo nnyaa, batho ba kwa gaTlebebe fela, fa re re re a bua, gape mo mpepeneneng Rre Matsheka, ke batla gore ke re itse gore ba ya go ipata ka COVID-19 go ntse gotwe mo lebogele selo se. A supa gore bodirelapuso bo tlaa nnyaa, kana re mo COVID-19. Ba bangwe ba a ja re ntse latlhegelwa ke ditiro. Se o se buile go sa kgathalesege re le mo COVID-19. gore Puso e ya ga Domkrag e ntse e bua gore, e tlaa dira ditiro di le dintsi di feta 200 000. Golo moo ke a go mo Mr Speaker, ke ntse ke bua jaana ke re re dumalane ka lebogela gore o fetile ka kgang e, a bolelela Batswana. nako, ba se ka ba ntseela nako, kana ke simolotse ka 3:30 p.m. I have timed myself ka kwano. Fa ke tsena mo dikgannyeng Mr Speaker, ke simolola ka kgaolo ya me, ke batla go lekodisa Tona, re na le Fa ke tsena mot thutong Mr Speaker, ke lebogele bothata jo bo tseneletseng kwa Palapye. Sepatela sa barutabana ba Palapye. Ke simolole fela ka sekole sa rona batho ba tsena maphakela, basadibagolo, bomme Palapye Secondary School (PSS) se se tsereng number le borre ka 6 o’clock, ba tlhola koo, ba nna koo, ba tswa 1, ke re ke a le leboga Mogokgo Rraetsho Kefilwe le

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barutabana ba gagwe go ya kwa tlase fela le ba phepafatsi, tlhoka ditiro, ba tlhomola pelo, ke gore ba ntse fela. Ga ka botlhe ba ne ba tshwaraganetse tiro e, le bone baapei ba ipotse gore Domkrag e ba e tlhophileng, e sena go tota. Ke re batho ba Modimo, le dirile go utlwala mo nna e re, re ya go le hira, re le direla ditiro, ka letsatsi la mabakeng a a thata, go sena madi, dibuka; go sena gompieno jaana e fa kae, ya reng? E ipoka fela e ntse ya sepe, mme you managed go dirisa available resources re nnyaa, letlhoko la ditiro le ntse le ya kwa godimo, le a to achieve your goals. Golo moo go intumedisitse fela tswelela, le ya kwa tengteng. Dilo tse Mr Speaker, ra re thata ke le Mopalamente. ga di a siama, di maswe fela thata. A dilo tse Batswana ba di lemoge, ba huralale party ya ga Domkrag ka gore Ke leboge gape ba Mmaphula Community Junior se e se dirang ke go ikgatlha ka Batswana, ka tsela e re Secondary School, ba itikile le bone. Go na le Merit. Le iseng re e bone. itikile, mabaka a le leng mo go one bagaetsho, le dirile, go a itumedisa. Ke reye ba Mabogo Community Junior Mr Speaker, graduate yo o tseneng a na le Degree, ga Secondary ke re, maduo a lona ga se gore a tlhabisa a bereke, a ke ngwaga yo e leng gore jaaka maduo a ditlhong. Ke tlhaloganya seemo se le leng mo go sone, ne a tswa jaana gotwe ma Form 3 failed, bana ba ga ke tlaa boa ke nna le lona gape ke le fa support, le gone ba ye brigades or technical colleges, ba latlhelwa gore re tlaa tswelela jang go dira go gaisa fa. mo mebileng, Domkrag ga e na sepe le bone. Fa o ka lebelela, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore bontsintsihave failed, bo Mr Speaker, ke tshwanelwa ke go feta ka kgang e gore ya kae bontsi bo, nnyaa, ba latlhelwa fela kwa dustbin, barutabana ba berekela mo maemong a a botlhoko ga ba na sepe. thata. Ga go itumedise gore matitŝhara ba bo ba goga Domkrag e paletswe ke go dira ditiro di le 200 000. bo 30 years ba sa fiwe promotion. Ba ntse fela bana ba Fa Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) e re re ya Modimo, ba itshoka ba dira tiro nako le nako, mme go go dira ditiro di le 100 000, bone ba ne ba re heelang, ntse gotwe re batla maduo, kana target ke 85 per cent. tlhokomologang UDC, rona re ya go feta. Kae re ye Batho ba tlaa bona maduo jang go sena boroko? Akanya teng! Gompieno ba inamainama fela, le fa re ba bona, mo COVID-19 e e kana kana Mr Speaker, ba nna ba le six ga ba itse gore ba ka iphitlha fa kae, ba tshaba go tshaba. mo lelwapeng! Dilo tse di ngomola pelo. Ga go na le fa e le dibuka le classrooms. Mr Speaker, mo kgaolong ya Mr Speaker, mma re bue ka hotel and tourism. Re me, jaaka ke ne ke bua maloba, mo primary schools, go mo mathateng a a gakgamatsang, bana ba rona kwa penologa mo e leng gore bana ba tsenela mo ditanteng le kgaolong ya me kwa Palapye, ba bereka mo hotel e teng mo dikerekeng. Ke selelo le khuruanyo ya meno. Ke ka mo Gaborone mo, gatwe Avani. Hotel e Mr Speaker, e moo ke reng, le fa ba berekela mo mathateng a a kana, dira go rata le go bona ka babereki. Le fa e fiwasubsidy, bongwanake, barutabana le bo mogokgo, they managed. gotwe ba neele batho, nnyaa, ga e tseye subsidy ya neela Maduo a ba a dirileng ka re bongwanaka, tshwarang ka babereki, e a ja. Ga e na sepe, mme e lebeletswe fela thata, ke na le lona go ya go ileng. jaana ka gore gatwe Mapalamente le one re kile ra ya go robala teng, e bile e ja le Domkrag. Ra re dilo tse Mr Mr Speaker, ke batla ke fete ka bofetshwana ka kgang ya Speaker, Batswana ba a di bona, ga di a siama ka fa e land allocation. Go tlhomola pelo gore batho ba bo ba leng gore batho ba ba dira ka teng, ba ba itirile lekoko, sala ba bewa bogologolo ka 2004/2005. Ke gore motho ba ja le party e e busang e. o emela setsha, a bo a tsofale. Motho yoo fa a ya go fiwa setsha, o tsofetse, ga a na nonofo ya go ikagela. Ke Mr Speaker, ke batla gore ke leboge baCitizen ka moo bodidi, lehuma le le kanakana le le bakiwang Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA), le fa ke Domkrag gore, le fa lefatshe le leng teng, le fa go e le gore e ka tswa e na le mathata, bonnyennyane jo segilweng teng, ba ntse ba palelwa fela. Batho ke ba ke e kgonang go bo neela batho, ba create ditiro. Golo maDomkrag, ra re Modimo a ko a re thuse re ba ntshe moo ke sengwenyana. Fa ba ne ba ka neelwa madi a ka gore go lebega e kete ba tlaa dira sengwenyana, mme mantsinyana, ka gore ditiro ga di yo, gongwe bogolo go fela fa re ka thuswa ke Modimo gore a ntshe batho ba, ne go ka nna ga dirwa ditiro. Ba neele rona bogolo, ba re gongwe go ka iwa golo gongwe. kgonang go nna bagwebi, le ba bangwe ba ne ba ka nna ba kgobolakgobola ba dira ditiro. Mr Speaker, employment and human resource; mo go tsa phiro le tsa bodiredi, kana Rre Matsheka o supile Mr Speaker, ke nna ke bua kgapetsakgapetsa ke re, ka dipalo gore batho ba le 24.5 per cent, ba gaufi le ditiro tse dintsi di ka dirwa kwa Morupule ka gore go na mo re reng ke quarter ya Batswana, ga ba bereke. Ba le magala; a ka dira sengwe le sengwe. E bile fa ke bua

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ka Morupule Mr Speaker, ke leboge General Manager Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke tlhalosa kgang ya… yo o neng a le teng Rraetsho Kgoboke, yo gompieno a ileng kwa Botswana Power Corporation (BPC), ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le nna ke tobeditse ka re o dirile ka bokgabane, fa ba ka mo tshwara sentle le kwano. kwa BPC, ba sa mo sukurisukuri, o tlaa kgona go ntsha MR RAMOGAPI: Ke ne ke tlhalosa kgang ya lekgetho maduo ka fa ke mo itseng ka teng. Mr Speaker, gore jaaka motho a amogela P80,000 re bo Mr Speaker, parastatals tse di palelwang ke go ntsha re re re tsenya Value Added Tax (VAT) ya 14 per cent, maduo tse di mo lefatsheng la Botswana, di dirwa ke gore go raya gore yo o amogelang P80,000, ba bo ba ya go ba hiriwa ka karata ya ga Domkrag. Fa re ka tswa mo reka combo botlhe, yo o amogelang P500 wa mogodi, dikgannyeng tseo Mr Speaker, ra hira batho ka bokgoni, kana 14 per cent wa VAT ya gagwe, o ya go ntsha madi nnyaa o tlaa bona go tlaa nna le maduo. Mr Speaker, a a kanang ka P30. Let me round it mo go P30, o ya go Puso e ne e buile ka gore go tlaa nna le inclusivity, mme ntsha madi a a kanang ka P30 mo go P400-nyana… re batla gore e re fa re ntsha budget jaana, re bo re kgona MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane. go bona gore share ya banalebogole e kae. Re na le banalebogole mo kgaolong ya me, ba bantsi. Ke na le MR RAMOGAPI: …a balelwa le ba bangwe e le wa monalebogole yo o itekang, mme ga a ke a fiwa le fa e VAT. Kana le lemoga gore… le tender ya go tsenya terata kana ya go roka ditlhako. A MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane. re tsenyeng batho botlhe mo budget, a banana le bone re ba tsenye mo budget Mr Speaker, e re fa re bua jaana, re MR RAMOGAPI: …e ya go kgethisiwa… bo re itse gore nnyaa, mme banana ba lefatshe le ba tlaa ja bokana mo budget e. MR MOSWAANE: Mr Speaker, clarification sir.

Mr Speaker, a bagodi ba lefatshe le ba neelwe loans ba MR SPEAKER: Yes, Honourable Moswaane. kgone go leka se ba ka se dirang, ka gore fa bagodi ba Honourable Ramogapi, you are the person on the floor, re ba ya kwa dibankeng go kopa loans, gatwe nnyaa o Honourable Moswaane wants clarification. 60 years, ga o ka ke wa fiwa loan. Fa re bua gape ka MR RAMOGAPI: Mr Speaker, ga ke go utlwe, wa pension Mr Speaker, tota re a kopa, bagodi a ba neelwe reng? Hello! pension ya P1500.00. Kana Mr Speaker, o tle o lebelele ka fa ... MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane is asking for clarification. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Rakgare, your hand is up, on what point? MR RAMOGAPI: Wa reng Mr Speaker? Mr Speaker!

…Silence… MR SPEAKER: Ke a go utlwa.

MR SPEAKER: On what point? MR RAMOGAPI: O ne o re ke tswelele? …Silence… MR SPEAKER: Ke ne ke re Honourable Moswaane is MR SPEAKER: Continue Honourable. asking for clarification.

…Silence… MR RAMOGAPI: Moswaane, 30 seconds fela ka MR RAMOGAPI: Ba a bo ba simolola Mr Speaker? sepiti mokaulengwe. Who is muting me? MR MOSWAANE: Clarification. O ne o e tshwere HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker! sentle. Ke ne ke utlwa o bua o re a quarter ya Batswana ga e bereke, e seng gore o ne o re wa re three quarters MR RAMOGAPI: Hello! O a nkutlwa gakere Mr ya Batswana ga e bereke? Ke ne ke re ke baakanye ntlha Speaker. eo. Thank you so much. MR SPEAKER: Yes sir. MR RAMOGAPI: Ee, ke a leboga Honourable MR RAMOGAPI: Ba nna ba tobetsatobetsa ka koo Mr Moswaane. O e tshwere sentle mokaulengwe. Kana Rre Speaker. Matsheka fa a dira, o dirile e le quarter ka gore o isitse

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kwa go 25 per cent. Fa o e lebelela, ene kana o lebeletse Mr Speaker, kgang ya kgomo, le fa re setse re bua ka mo bananeng. Fa re lebelela le bagolo bone ba bangwe makgetho, le yone e kgethisiwa gantsintsi fela. Kana go ba ba siameng, ba ba sa berekeng, ke yone three quarter na le lekgetho la kgomo le la VAT. Ke gore o kgetha kwa rraetsho. O bolelela ruri, o e tshwere sentle. polaseng ya gagwe le kwa abattoir. Fa a sena go nna a kgetha kwa abattoir gotwe 10 per cent wa lekgetho la Jaanong kgang e ke e buang ya lekgetho e e masisi, ke kgomo, fa a tsena at the butchery gape o a kgetha gatwe ya gore basadibagolo le bannabagolo kwa lelwapeng ba 14 per cent. Ke gore madi a mantsintsi fela Mr Speaker. tshwanetse go itse gore ba ya go kgetha. Fa ba ya go Ga go a siamela lefatshe le. kgetha jaana Mr Speaker… ba njetse nako, ga se yone ya me e. Fa ba ya go kgetha jaana Mr Speaker, kgang Mr Speaker, ke eletsa gore Honourable Rraetsho ke gore ba ya go kgethisiwa mo combo-nyana e ba e Minister wa Local Government, should declare gore rekang, go lekana le Permanent Secretary (PS). Ke gore Palapye ke toropo, re kgone go mo thusa go phutha madi, lekgetho le ga le kgetholole, ga go a siama ka gore kana a lese go nna a ntse a re nnyaa ke dira decentralisation ka tsamaiso ya lekgetho, o tshwanetse o kgethele gore mme re sa itse gore o batla go dira eng. O a bo a batla mo o jang... gore fa a fetsa fa a bo a ntshitse gore Palapye e se ka ya nna toropo. Palapye rraetsho ke toropo, e dire ka bofefo MR SPEAKER: Honourable Monnakgotla, your hand jo bo kgonagalang. is up, on what point? Ke batla gore ke bue le Mme Mma Serame gore a ko MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Speaker, a tlhoafale, bojalwa bo tsosolosa itsholelo. Dira gore clarification. o bule dibara, batho ba dibara ba a sokola. Batho ba MR RAMOGAPI: Kgaitsadiaka, ga ke go e time, nako dibara, ba hirile bana ba rona e bile ba hirisitse dibara. e tšhaile jaaka o utlwa ke re ba njetse nako jaana, e ne e Ga re ka ke ra nna fela re bo re dumela gore re tlaa supiwa gone fa. tswalela bojalwa ruri. Bagaetsho, bojalwa bo tsamaisa Mr Speaker, lekgetho go raya gore bagodi ba mo itsholelo. Fa e le gore ba bone gore bojalwa ga bo ka ke mathateng, ba a kgethisiwa ka tandabalanyana fela ya jwa bulwa, a ba ba fe subsidy, ba ye go duela loans and P400, ba kgethisiwa madi a mantsi a 14 per cent. Go raya salaries. gore mo go P400 Mr Speaker, fa a ya go reka combo ya P240, P30 wa ga Goromente ba a mo kgethisiwa. Fa o Mr Speaker, ke eletsa gape gore ke re, golo mo ga go ntsha mo go PS kana Minister yo o amogelang P80,000, nna go tswalwa kereke, e bulwa e tswalwa, ga go a lekgetho mo go ene la P30, ga se sepe Mr Speaker. siama. Re mo dikerekeng, re na le batho ba ba bidiwang Lekgetho le tshwanetse gore le kgetholole, gotwe nnyaa gotwe Sunday school, ga ba ye kerekeng bana ba fa e ba ba bracket jo, ba ga ba kgethe. Mme ga gona gore sale gotwe COVID-19. Re batla gore dikereke di bulwe, go ka twe ga ba kgethe jang ka gore ba tlaabo ba ya di rapelele mathata a, di eme ka dinao. Fa re di kganela kwa dishopong, VAT yone e batliwa. Ke feta ka eo Mr go rapela re ntse re re bo two hours, gatwe re dira eng? Speaker. Lefatshe le kgonwa ke thapelo Mr Speaker, mo go Ka reserves Mr Speaker; ke matlhabisaditlhong, ke diragalang mo ke dilo di sele fela tse re sa itseng gore lantlha go diragala. Ke batla gore ke kope Rre Mogae go gatwe re mo go afe. tsaya role ya gagwe ya gore ke senior citizen, a gakolole Mr Speaker, ke batla go tsaya nako e ke re, a Tona wa gore ga go ise go diragale mo lefatsheng la Batswana Finance a fiwe dithata. Fa Tautona a tla kwa go wena gore madi a bo a fela ka tsela e e ntseng jaana. Mo re gotwe Tautona o batla se kana have planned se, Tona wa go bonang mo Mr Speaker, gore madi a ba a jewa jaaka tsa Madi a ba a gana, a fiwa dithata a re nnyaa, lefatshe motokwane le moretlwa, o tsaya fela ka lebogo o bo o ga le na madi, ga re ka ke ra reka dikoloi ra rekela latlhela gotlhe mo ganong, ga re ise re go bone le fa e Tautona. Lefatshe ga le na madi, ga re ka ke ra renovate le gope Mr Speaker. Ke lantlha mo lefatsheng la rona. Ofisi ya ga Tautona. Fa re sa neeleMinister wa Finance Batho ba ba tsentse lefatshe la rona mo mathateng a a dithata, lefatshe la rona le tsile go tsena ka lemena, le ya tlhomolang pelo. Ke kopa gore Rre Mogae, a tseye role go wa Mr Speaker. ya gagwe, a eme ka dinao. Ke kopa gore Rre Khama, a tseye role ya gagwe ya senior citizen a eme ka dinao, a Kana Mr Speaker, e re fa re ntse re dira jaana, re gakolole Puso e ka gore re tshwanelwa ke go gakololana gakologelwe gore re kile ra bua ra re a re nneng le Mr Speaker. Citizen Economic Empowerment (CEE). Kana fa re bua

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ka Citizen Economic Empowerment, a re ipotseng potso Mr Speaker, mo re go bonang mo lefatsheng la gore why all construction jobs are given to the Chinese? Botswana ka COVID-19, e dirisiwa mo re ka reng gatwe Gatwe go diragala eng mo lefatsheng la Botswana? phuduhudu e fitlhetse letlhodi, phuduhudu e ja letlhodi Lebelela circles tsotlhe tse di mo Gaborone, di dirwa ka tsela e e gakgamatsang. Batswana ba tlile go botsa ke MaChina. Mr Speaker, dilo tse di botlhoko, ga di a dipotso ka lengwe la matsatsi gore, la re le isitse kae siamela gore bana ba rona ba bo ba lebeletse itsholelo e madi a rona? Re a utlwa gore dikarabo ga di tswe. Re a jewa ke batho ba sele. Mr Speaker, why filling stations utlwa gore dikarabo le fa di re di a tswa ga di utlwale, are owned by the Indians? All filling stations! Mr heelang! re botlhale le se ka la re dilo tse ga re di bone, Speaker, dilo tse batho ba di lebeletse, di botlhoko, ga re di lebeletse. Dilo tse e tlaa re ka motlha mongwe re di a siama. Why chickens are owned by Indians? Dikoko bo re di sekela. Ga gona motho yo ka nnelang ruri, the tsotlhe le fa o ka leka, le fa o ka reng, go na le morafe time will come ya revolution e e leng gore ga gona ope fela o o mo go tsone. Dilo tse Mr Speaker, ga di a yo o ka e emisang. siama. Mr Speaker, why education is led by the Kenyans in Botswana? Dilo tse Mr Speaker, ga di a siama, di Mr Speaker, ke batla gore ke fete ka kgang e gape ya botlhoko, ga di a siamela lefatshe la rona. investment trade ke re, Choppies, Spar, Sefalana ga ba tsamaise sentle. These chain stores ke gore ba a lema, fa Mr Speaker, a re ipotseng gore Batswana ba batla ba sena go nna ba lema ba a ithekisetsa and then supply Citizen Economic Empowerment, ba batla itsholelo e themselves. Ba re balemi ba ba nnyennyane ba dire jang. nna kwa go bone. Re simolola go belaela Mr Speaker, Go tlile trend fela e e sa siamang, e o tlaa fitlhelang e gore go kile ga nna le selo se bidiwa gotwe Belt and le gore motho ke distributor, e bile gape ke retailer. E Road, gotwe Tona wa tsa Mafatshe a sele a tle a saene, bile fa a ntse a dira retailing jaana ke ene gape a dirang a saenisiwa ke maChina. Re belaela gore maChina fa ba fiwa ditiro tse di kanakana jaana, ke yoneBelt and Road transport yotlhe. Re re dilo tse Batswana ba di lebeletse, e re sa itseng gore gatwe tota e ne e tlhalosa eng, e batla ga di a siama, a di baakanngwe. eng. Dilo tse Mr Speaker, ke tse di sa siamang. Mr Speaker, ga ke ka ke ka tlhoka go wela ka kgang e Mr Speaker, ke batla gore ke fete ka ntlha e gape ka botlhoko e gotweng badirelapuso ba ya go kgaolwa. A bofefo ya COVID-19, rraetsho yo e neng ele moagisanyi Molale o ka leka go e ntlafatsa, a re o e tsenya some laces wa me kwa Palapye Rraetsho Bright, ke re a moya wa a re nnyaa heewee! go tlaabo go lebelelwa, freezing of gagwe o robale ka kagiso. Re latlhegetswe, ke mokatisi the posts. Mr Speaker, kgang gatwe right size, no matter wa tlhwatlhwa, e ne ele moagisanyi wa rona kwa what the name you are trying to use, whether you are Palapye. saying right size, transformation or engineering, dilo tse tsotlhe kwa pheletsong badirelapuso ba a kgaolwa. Mr Speaker, mme gape ke re COVID-19 e, barutabana Mme ra re ga le a tshwanela go kgaola badirelapuso ba bo mathateng, ka lebaka la gore kwa sekoleng sa ka nako e botlhoko e ya COVID-19. Ke nako e e leng Mmaphula mo kgaolong ya me re mo mathateng, bana gore le pensions tsa badirelapuso ga di dire sentle, ba tshwerwe ka COVID-19 ba le bantsi. Go ntse go ntse mme fa le simolola le re le ya go ba kgaola ka nako e, jalo, go lebega o kare bana jaanong go tlhakatlhakane ka la re tota batho ba Modimo ba ya go tswa ka eng, ka gore testing materials, kits ga di yo, mme Tona ke ne ke gore pensions tsa bone kwa di beilweng teng ga di dire santse ke mmotsa gore, rraetsho wa re madi a dirile eng sentle ke bo zero-zero. Nako e ke ya gore le eme pele, a donations? A re go rekilwe medical supplies, medical se kgaoleng badirelapuso re a kopa, re a rapela, fa le ka supplies, e e leng gore jaaka re bua jaana ga e yo. Mr ba la kgaola badirelapuso go tshwana le jaaka fa le ba Speaker, go na le dikgang tse re di itseng, re boditse atlhola le re, re tsaya tlhobolo, re a le hula. Batho ba ba dipotso di mo laeneng, re a itse gore go rekilwe service tshwere itsholelo, ba tsenya bana ba bone dikole, they e nngwe, testing kits dingwe tse di latlhetsweng fela are sponsors golo gongwe. Ba tlhokometse batsadi ba kwa medical stores, di phuagantswe koo ka madimadi bone, bangwe ba a lwala, mme fa le akanya go ba kgaola a a gakgamatsang. Potso e mo laeneng e emetse gore jaana, le sena go nna le ba dirisa le ba raya le re, go Honourable Dikoloti a tle a arabe gore gatwe testing kits ya go nna monate mo lefatsheng la Botswana, ba ya go bone bo antigen tse di fitlhilweng kwa tse e bile re utlwa tshela sentle. Kana dilo tse le Modimo o tlaa le bona, ga gore ba batla gore di tshubiwe. Re di lebeletse, ba se ka go a siama gore e bo mo nakong ya gompieno re iketlile ba re ga re itse, dipotso di teng, di mo laeneng, ke setse fela re re, nnyaa badirelapuso go tlaa baakanngwa fale ke e tsentse, ka gore re a utlwa, re bona gore tota madi le fale. Mr Speaker, ga se golo mo tota go siameng, a ile fela go sele. mme e bile go ka re isa golo gongwe.

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Kwa bofelong Mr Speaker, ke supe gore Tautona wa ya gago e o e emetseng ...(Interruptions!)... e eleng lefatshe la Botswana o tshwanetse to be limited in the gore e ya bo e le cake ya setšhaba. Cake ya setšhaba Budget. E seng ene, ke gore re we should limit post ya e e kgaoganngwang Motswana mongwe le mongwe, e gore e-e! a Tautona fa go ntse jaana a laolwe le ene, Motswana mongwe le mongwe re le baeteledipele re ka gore fa o ka mo neela dithata, ke tlatsa mafoko a ga solofelang gore cake eo re e bone. A ke setokinyana se Honourable Kenny Kapinga, gore Tautona wa Africa fa se kanaka eng, a ke se se kanaka eng, mme cake… o ka mo neela dithata tsotlhe fela gore ke ene a laolang sengwe le sengwe, ke ene a tlaa hirang Tona wa Finance, …Silence… e bile fa a sa mo rate o ka mo koba, heela! Lefatshe MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay. le tlaa nna mo mathateng. A dilo tse, Molaomotheo o fetolwe, re baakanye, re ntshe bo Auditor General ka fa …Silence… tlase ga Ofisi ya ga Tautona. Ga go a siama gore e bo e MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay. le ene who audits Ofisi ya ga Tautona gape e ntse ele ene yo a mo hirang. Ga go a siama gore Ombudsman e bo …Silence… e le yone gape e tlhodumelang gongwe mo go Tautona, mme gape a ntse a hiriwa ke Ofisi ya ga Tautona. Dilo MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, can you unmute tse Mr Speaker, ra re ke the institutions tse di dirang yourself? gore democracy e none, e nne yone. …Silence… Kwa bofelong rra mma ke leboge batho ba Palapye go MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay has disappeared. bo ba ntlisitse mo Palamenteng, go bo ba itumeletse gore Let us try Honourable Motaosane. ke a ba buelela, ke tshwere ka natla tota. Ba re ke se ka ka lebala le ba ga rona ka fa Tswapong ka fa Maunatlala, MR MOTAOSANE (THAMAGA-KUMAKWANE): mme ke ba reile ka re, ke tlaa nna ke tshikinya wa ga Thank you Mr Speaker. Mma ke go leboge go mpha rona, ga gona le fa ele bothata. Mr Speaker, ke batla nakonyana e le nna gore ke kgwe Dr Matsheka gore ke re ka mafoko a le kalo ke a leboga rraetsho, a dikgaba mo puong ya gagwe e ya go kgaoganya madi re direleng Batswana ka tlhwaafalo, re tshwaraganeng. a setšhaba. E re ke go leboga Mr Speaker, ke simolole Re itse gore go na le dilo tse di sa batleng sepolotiki. ka go itebaganya le botsogo ke itebagantse thata le ka O kare sengwe le sengwe fela re tlaa batla go se dira fa Dr Matsheka a re fileng pego ka botlalo ka teng, ka sepolotiki, nnyaa lefatshe ga le busiwe jalo, gare segolobogolo a bua ka manokonoko a COVID-19. Ke fa gongwe re tseye sepolotiki re se beele kwa. Mma itse gore budget ya gagwe ya gompieno o ne a e dira ka ke le fe sekai, Koma o ne a gakolola gore a go nne le fa tlase ga kgatelelo e e seng kana ka sepe, e lefatshe le matamo, a nna teng, rraetsho wa ntlha wa Botswana senang madi jaaka gongwe batlotlegi bangwe ba ntse ba Peoples Party (BPP) o ne a gakolola gore a go nne le akgela gore le one madi a go ntseng gotwe re a beile kwa sesole, sa nna teng, Rre Saleshando o kile a gakolola mafatsheng ga a yo. Ke mo leboge gore under seemo se gore fokotsang Value Added Tax (VAT) mo dijong, ya re leng mo go sone, a bo a bone go tshwanela gore a fokodiwa. Gompieno o kare jaanong kganetso e tlaa tle ka pego fa pele ga rona, a se ka a rwala mabogo mo tsewa gore ke sengwenyana fela se se sa tshwanelang tlhogong fela a bo a re ga go na gore go ka dirwang. gore reediwa. Heelang! Re reetseng, re fano go tla go le fa bogakolodi. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Re a itse rotlhe Mr Speaker, gore mo nakong ya gompieno ga go na lefatshe lepe le le ka ipokang ka MR KABLAY (LETLHAKENG-LEPHEPHE): sepe se ba se dirileng mo nakong ya gompieno le sa dira ...(Inaudible)… budget pele. Mr Speaker, ke bue ditlhabololo, mabapi le gore itsholelo ya mafatshe otlhe gore kana fa batho ba ga rona kwa dikgaolong ba a Africa kana lefatshe ka bophara, gantsi ditsompelo di utlwa gotwe Mopalamente o ya kwa kabong ya madi ne di dirisiwa thata mo go lekeng go mekamekana le ...(Interruptions!)... ba itumela fela thata, ba itse gore seemo sa bolwetse jwa COVID-19. E bile ke leboge Dr go raya gore Mopalamente wa rona o ya go re tlela ka Matsheka gore mo seemong se le fa gongwe re santse botshelo. Mopalamente wa rona o ya go tlela dikgaolo re tlaa utlwa pego e e papametseng sentle ya gore ra re tsa rona botshelo. Ba go laela gore, rra tsamaya o itse melemo e kana ditsompelo tse tsa botsogo re tlaa di bona gore botshelo jotlhe re bo beile mo go wena. O itse gore ka tsela e e ntseng jang mo nakong e e kae, o re beile se se tlaabong se buiwa koo le rona o itse gore kgaolo pego pele e le rona re le Mapalamente re tshwanetseng

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go ya go e neela batho ba rona kwa dikgaolong, re ba go nang le diphoso teng, re bue nako e le teng, re se ka itsise seemo, mme re ba bolelela boammaaruri, e seng ra tla go di bua ka nako e re setseng re tsweledisitse sepe gape. Re ba bolelela nnete gore ba itse gore dingwe dipuisanyo tsa rona mo Palamenteng. Ke go lebogile rra ga re na go di bona, dingwe re tlaa di bona ka mabaka a ka fa o re beileng pego ya gago pele ka teng. gore botsogo bo tla pele. Go tlaabo go sena mosola gore dingwe re di bone re sa itse gore di ya go dirisiwa ke Dr Matsheka, fa go na le sengwe se ke eletsang gore bomang fa tšhaba e ya Botswana e ka nyelela mabapi le gongwe e re fa o lebaleba mo seemong sa go re baya bolwetse jo jwa COVID-19. pele polelo ya gago, ka fa gongwe go tlaa lekang gore re tokafatse itsholelo ka teng, ke na le letshwenyego le E ntse e le mo pegong ya COVID-19 ka fa Rre Matsheka letona ka gore gantsi fa re bua ka go tokafatsa jaana, a neng a bua ka teng, gongwe ke mo kope, ke akanya re tlaabo re bua re tsaya projects tse ditonatona re di gore fa ke lebeletse seemo sa itsholelo, nako e tsile ya beela bontlha bongwe jwa lefatshe ka fa o tshwanetseng gore gongwe madinyana a a leng teng, a a bonalang, gore gongwe o di bone ka teng. Golo moo go baya ba re tle re leke go tlhabolola dikago tsa Puso tse di leng bangwe ka fa mosing. Go re baya ka fa mosing ka gore gongwe le gongwe. Sekai; jaaka motho a ka bua ka bo gongwe ga re na letswai le le ka pegwang ka diterena the old Scottish Livingstone buildings gore a ga re ka ke go tswa kwa letswai le leng teng. Ga re na ditsela tse di ra dira gore gone koo e nne gone kwa go tlaa direlwang kopanyang lefatshe la Botswana le tse dingwe. Re na le batho gore ba ye quarantine teng. Boammaaruri jwa letlhoko la ditsela le re tshwanetseng gore fa re bua ka go tsosolosa itsholelo gongwe le gongwe mo lefatsheng kgang ke gore re ka tswa re itse gore protective clothing la Botswana, bangwe le bangwe fa ba leng teng, go bo le other medical equipment di a tura, mme fa o re o ya go na le sengwe se ba ka tsosolosang itsholelo ka sone. go lebelela madi a a dirisiwang mo dihoteleng go isa Fa o isa projects koo, ga go na jaaka bontlha bongwe jwa batho to quarantines a babalela Puso le go feta. E bile lefatshe ka fa ba ntseng ka teng ka foo ba ka kgonang le one madi ao ga a duelwe sentle. Batho ba ba Modimo go tokafatsa kana go tsosolosa itsholelo ka teng. E seng ba ba re beelang batho ba ba mo quatantines ga se gore jalo, go tlaabo go raya gore re nna babogedi ba go leka go tshelwa sentle. Beng ba dihotele le bone ba ba fa go tsosolosa itsholelo. dijonyana tse e seng tsone ka gore ba kgona go tsaya lebaka la bo up to four months motho a ise a duelwe. Ka jalo, a e nne e re fa re bua ka projects tse ditona This is not right ka gore fa go nna jalo, le ene go raya tse, re gakologelwe gore dingwaga tse tsotlhe tse re di gore batho ba ba leng koo o ba fa dijonyana tse e seng ntseng re ntse re kopile dilo dingwe kwa dikgaolong tsa tsa sepe. Fa o ka reetsa batho ba o fitlhelang ba le mo rona, le tsone ke tsone tse di ka tsosolosang itsholelo. quarantines, e nna e le dingongorego tse di seng kana ka Mma ke go fe sekai; gompieno re na le mathata a ditsela sepe mme di tsalwa ke gore le rona re le lephata gongwe mo kgaolong ya rona. Kgaolo ya me yotlhe ka bophara ga re duele beng ba mafelo a re beileng batho ba rona e na le mathata a ditsela, mme fa e ne e le gore ditsela kwa go bone. Mma ke fete ka eo Dr Matsheka, ke a go tseo le tsone di ka bona fa di tsenngwang teng, batho leboga rra. ba kgaolo eo ba ne ba tlaa kgona go tsenya mabogo. Mo go direng jalo ba kgone go dira buying power mo Ke lebogele gore mo phirimaneng eno o ne o eme fa motseng wa bone, e bo e le gore itsholelo e a tokafala pele ga rona o tlhalosa dintlha dingwe tse gongwe mo malwapeng, mme e thusa le lefatshe ka gore bangwe ba ka tsayang e le go ka nna gore ga o a buisa obviously batho ba ya go kgetha jaaka re ntse re bua ka bangwe sentle. Tota go boammaaruri rra, fa go tliwa one makgetho. ka fa dipalong, ga se rotlhe ba re ka kgonang go di Kana go tlaa nna botlhoko thata fa re ntse re bua ka tlhaloganya, segolobogolo o di bapisa le ditsamaiso tse one makgetho a, ba bangwe ntlha e nngwe bone le a di diretsweng ka fa tlase ga tsone. Yes, you can add 1 okediwa, mme ga ba na letseno le ka lone ba ka kgonang + 1 o bo o bona gore ke 2. Ka fa ditsamaiso tsa Puso go tokafatsa itsholelo. di tshwanetseng go tsamaya ka teng ga se selo se se motlhofo go tlhaloganngwa ke mongwe le mongwe. Ka Dr Matsheka, a ko kgang e le e lebe sentle, bagaetsho jalo, go botlhokwa gore jaaka gongwe bangwe batlotlegi nako e tsile ya gore fa re kgaoganya madi a setšhaba, fa ba ne ba bua gore go botlhokwa gore e nne e re pele ga gotwe go padile constituency nngwe le nngwe go nne le re tla go buisa Tshutiso kana polelo e ya gago e re bo a major project e e diragalang mo go yone. Ke ne ke go re kile ra feta golo gongwe, re tlhaloganye, re bone fa utlwa sentle gore o batla gore re tswe mo go reng re bo

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re baya gore re tlaa kgaoganyakgaoganya ditokinyana. Kumakwane go sena le fa e le project epe fela e o ka Ga se mafoko a gago, ke a batlotlegi bangwe jaaka a reng e kgolwane. Golo mo go a tshwenya e bile go tlaa Motlotlegi Mokwaledimogolo wa me yo ke mo ratang, a re kgaoganya re le lefatshe. Ke a leboga. ne a bua maabane a supa gore gongwe re nne re lebelela ditsela di tshwana le A1. Nnyaa, ga a molato go bua jalo MR MOTAOSANE: Thank you sir. Ke dumalana mme ke ne ke re, a re tseye lemmenyana le le teng re le wena Honourable Lucas, tota fela mo seemong sa le kgaoganye ka dikgaolo tsotlhe. Go se ka ga nna le gompieno that is the way we should be distributing kgaolo epe e e leng gore ga gona sepe se se dirwang mo ditlhabololo ka teng. Fa ke tsaya sekai kwa Kgaolong ya go yone, for the entire development plan jaaka re re ne me ya Thamaga-Kumakwane, for the past 15 years ga re sekaseka (review) National Development Plan (NDP) na projects, mme every six years go tliwa kwa go rona ka 11. Kwa dikgaolong tsa rona ga go supafale fa go tlaa fa gotwe bottom-up planning, re ntsha project, none of diragala sepe. Dilo tse Rre Matsheka fa re ka tla ka tsela them gets funding. Dilo tse le rona di re tsentse mowa o e e ntseng jalo, go raya gore ba bangwe re tsile go ba o maswe, segolobogolo jang mo kgannyeng e ya ditsela. tlogelela ruri kwa ntle, ga go kitla go nna le ditlhabololo Ke le fano ke le Honourable Motaosane, bo Reverend Dr kwa metseng ya bone. We need equal distribution ya the Seakgosing le Honourable Mabeo ba fetile fa ba ntse ba national cake. bua ka ditsela tse di tshwanang le ya Kubung, Gakgatla- Gamodubu. Ditsela tse di ka tokafatsa seemo sa Ke ntse ke le mo go ya ditsela ka fa o di buang ka teng, itsholelo mo kgaolong eo, le mo lefatsheng la Botswana Dr Matsheka, re sale re bua through you Mr Speaker, ka bophara. Dilo tse fa di sa kgaoganngwe ka mo go gore bagaetsho nako ya tollgates e gorogile, a e nne lebaneng, re tlaa felela re belaela gore nnyaa, bangwe priority. Go ya ka nna ke batla go go raya ke re, fa jaaka jaanong ba direla dikgang kwa ditseleng tsa bone. Go ke bona le batla to fund projects tse gotweng ke tsa bo utlwisa botlhoko gore gompieno mo teng ga speech se, rail line ka kwa di tshwanetseng go ntshiwa ka teng, go lebega gore go na le mafelo mangwe a e leng gore, nnyaa, a pele ga re tsenya rail line eo, ka kelelelo ya ke sa ba fufagele, e bile internal roads are financed. Ao me ka re a re direng tollgates. Every border ka fa di bathong ba Modimo! A tota fa le bua ka internal roads tsenang ka teng mo Botswana, di ka re direla madi a a le tse di golaganyang metse gore ba bangwe ba ba nnang seng kana ka sepe, ka gore o fitlhela e bile di dirisiwa kgakala le ditlamelo ba kgone to access ditlamelo fa go ke dikoloi tsa megobagoba tse ditona, e bile ke tsone leng botoka teng. Sekai ke fa motho a tswa Kubung, tse di re senyetsang ditsela. Fa re ntse re tlogetse batho, Moshaweng, Kotolaname kana Gamodubu, a batla go rona fa re tsena kwa bo Aforika Borwa ke rona bao ba ya go reka sengwe kwa motseng o mogolwane o o nang re duelang makgetho a a seng kana ka sepe a tollgates. le ditlamelo tse di seyong kwa go bone. E bo e le gore, “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” gore a tsamaye go padisiwa ke gore ga gona tsela, mme ba bangwe bone ba ya go bona internal roads. That is MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Good afternoon luxury mo go bone, whereas mo go rona ditsela tseo fa Honourable Members. Honourable Lucas, your hand is up, what point are you standing on? di nna teng would be a necessity e e tlaa re kopantshang, le go isa botsogo. Fa gotwe botsogo kwa Kubung, ga MR LUCAS: Elucidation Mr Speaker. gona sepatela, ga gona a maternity wing or clinic. Fa motho a tshwanelwa ke gore a tswe koo a ye Thamaga, MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motaosane, he is asking fa e le gore ke mme yo o itsholofetseng, o ka nna a felela for elucidation. a belegela mo tseleng, mo dikoloing tseo. Re tshwanetse MR MOTAOSANE: Granted Honourable Speaker. ra leba le batho gore, ba ba mo kgaolong e ke ba ba nang le itsholelo e e kana ka eng. Gore bone fa re ntse re ba MR LUCAS: Elucidation. Ee rra, Rre Motaosane tota tsaya kwa a hira koloi ya motho ka nako ya masigo a ke ne ke re o bua kgang e tona fa o bua ka gore fa go mo isa koo e bo e senyegela mo tseleng, mme le ene kgaoganngwa madi, go tlaa re dikgaolo tsa rona re bone a ntshitse lemmenyana la gagwe la bofelo, ra reng ka gore at least nngwe le nngwe e na le nngwe ya projects dikgang tse. Dilo tse ke tse re tshwanetseng gore re di tse di kgolwane. Mo bogompienong, go a tshwenya bue Honourable Matsheka, o bo o di lebe ka leitlho le le Rre Motaosane gore fa gongwe o fitlhela projects di siameng. Ke a itse gore e tlaa re re bua kwa maphateng kgobokane mo kgaolong e le nngwefela, mme tse ka go farologana, gongwe re nne re itebaganye le dingwe tse di tshwanang bo Bobirwa le Thamaga- dikgang tse.

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Nngwe ya dikgang tse di ntshwenyang Honourable ka nako. You have this National Monitoring System and Matsheka ke gore, o buile sentle, one madi a mannye Strategy which you are still trying to build, fa re sa eme a o fitlhelang a seyo fa o kgaoganya, maphata mangwe ka dinao go bona gore ditiro tse re di ntshang, re di neela a neelwa madi, ga ba a dirise. Ke gakologelwa gore batho ba ba di tlhokometseng (supervise), ba itse gore fa re le mo dikomiting tse re nnang re di tsena jaaka ba dira eng, ba batla eng mo go tsone. re na le portfolio committees tse di farologanyeng tsa Palamente, re ntse re botsisisa dipotso tse. Gongwe Fa o lebeletse, fa ditiro di sa fele ka nako, go raya gore nako e tsile ya gore o bitse Ministers ba ba lebaganyeng we are not bringing services to the communities tse re le maphata a, to account for go tlhoka tiriso ya madi di emetseng. kwa maphateng a bone. It is really painful and hurting Sa bobedi, ditlhwatlhwa jaaka di ntse di ya kwa godimo, gore batho ba bo ba sa dirise madi, maphata a mangwe go raya gore jaanong itsholelo ga gona ka fa e ka golang a tlhoka madi go tsweledisa ditiro tsa bone. Dilo ka teng. Jaanong dilo tse, a ko re di lebelele thata. tse ga di a siama, go tshwanetse gore go elwe tlhoko thata. Le ministries tse e leng gore fa ba neetswe madi, On page 9 Mr Speaker, o bua ka… dikonteraka di neelwa ditiro, ga di dire ditiro, ga di di fetse ka nako. Obviously se se yang go diragala ke gore, MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motaosane, Honourable go ya go nna le some cost escalations, tse di neng di ka Moswaane’s hand is up. Honourable Moswaane, what bo di kganetswe fa batho ba ne ba dirile tiro ya bone ka are you standing on? fa go tshwanetseng ka teng. Dilo tse ke ne ke re o di lebe MR MOSWAANE: Elucidation. thata. Fa ke ka fa sekai, projects di tshwana le tsele tsa Economic Stimulus Programme (ESP), tsotlhe fela ka MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motaosane, he is asking bontsi ga gona epe e e fedileng ka nako. Tse dingwe tse to elucidate. di fedileng, matlo a teng a ntse a foo ga a dirisiwe. Golo …Silence… mo go busetsa letseno la Puso kwa morago, ka gore le fa o ka tswa o tsaya P250 mo modirelapusong yo o nnang MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motaosane, are you mo ntlong eo ya Puso, mme gone sengwe se tlaabo se allowing him to elucidate? Are you yielding? tsena. Go na le matlo a kwa gaThamaga, a sala a nna foo for the past four years, a fedile, ga a dirisiwe up to MR MOTAOSANE: I am yielding. now gatwe Botswana Power Corporation (BPC) ga e ise MR MOSWAANE: On a point of elucidation. e tsenye motlakase. Dilo tse nnyaa, ga se tsone. Go na le Honourable Motaosane, o e tshwere sentle ntlo kwa Kumakwane, go pala golo mo go nnyennyane mokaulengwe. Ke ne ke utlwa o bua thata ka private fela gore e dirisiwe. Dilo tse Minister, wena o le leitlho companies tse di neelwang tiro ke Puso ka fa di la Puso ka kwa mading, a ko o bone gore dilo tse di diragala ka nako di tle di kgone go go thusa go tsenya palelwang ka teng, mo go feletsang go nna le the cost letseno. overruns. Fa o e tshwere jalo mokaulengwe, wa reng ka issue ya wastage le corruption, e e leng gore prices are E rile o ntse o tsweletse wa supa mo polelong ya inflated from the onset during the planning stage up until gago gore, le eletsa gore National Employment Policy le implementation prices by some of the Government (NEP) e tle e fetogile ka tsela e e tlaa thusang to create officers? Sekai; jaaka o utlwile Honourable Rakgare mebereko, especially through private sector. Ke ne ke a lela ka toilets tsa P1 million gore they should have re gongwe le e lebe sentle Dr Matsheka, because tota costed something like bo P600 000, mme go ntshitswe fa o ka ela tlhoko mo lefatsheng la Botswana re bannye P1 million. Potso e le gore P1 million o ne a tlile jang? thata. Fa o leba the private sector le yone it depends Wa reng ka ntlha eo mokaulengwe? Thank you. entirely on tenders tsa ga Goromente gore e kgone go nna le ditiro. Private sector fa e ikaega (depend) mo MR MOTAOSANE: Thank you Honourable go Goromente, e bile gape e le bone ba e reng fa ba Moswaane, that is exactly my point. This wastage le neelwa ditiro ga ba di dire ka nako within budget, a ga se corruption, di dirwa ke gore rona re le bo Minister kana gone gore go tsile to drain the little resource e o nang le re le Puso, re a busa, mme re neetse badirelapuso gore yone Dr Matsheka? Go tshwanetse gore batho ba fa ba jaanong ke bone ba buse ka gore the supervision ga e neelwa ditiro, ba neelwa madi, maphata a supervise mo teng sentle. I am still saying fa batho ba ba se supervised go tseneletseng go kgona go bona gore ditiro tse di dirwa ka mo go tseneletseng, ga bonwa gore ba dira ditiro tsa

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Puso ka mo go tshwanetseng ka teng, re tlaa tshela re Jaanong golo moo fa re ka tsaya maši a, kwa bo Kenya lela ka sone seemo seo Honourable Moswaane. This le a itse gore motho fa a na le dikgomo di le pedi, o corruption, golo mo go tsetswe segolobogolo ke gore kgona go gama a bo a isa maši kwa a a isang teng, kwa nako e e neng badirelapuso ba lela ka madi, go bo gotwe a tlaa tlang a bona gore a a mo thusa. A re baakanyeng le bone ba dire dikgwebo. Ga gona jaaka dikgwebo di dilo tse, re thuse, o tseye bold decision ya gore motse ka tswa fa pele ga bone ba di tshwere ka mabogo, ba bo le mongwe o motona kana o o mo seemong sa gore go ba sa nne le seabe sa gore go nne le se ba se jang mo na le temothuo kwa go one, re tseye maši mo balemi- teng. Jaanong ke sone se o bonang le tenders, e a re fa baruing ba ba ikemetseng. E seng go batla maši a a tlang gotwe tenders fela, di nna di le kwa makgotlatshekelo. ka dikgomo tse gotweng ke tsa maši fela. Dikgomo tse E bile gape ke batla go go gakolola Dr Matsheka gore di tshwanang le Simmental, Charolais, ke dikgomo tse mo Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board di nang le maši a a seng kana ka sepe, mme a felela a (PPADB) Act kana ke Local Authorities Procurement sa bereke sepe ka gore re lebile fela ba ba tlaa tlang ka and Asset Disposal (LAPAD) Act, go na le gore le fa dikgomo tse gotweng ke tsa maši. A ko re e akanyeng ka tender gongwe e santse e le kwa makgotlatshekelo, tsela e nngwe ka tsweetswee. project yone e tswelele. As long as you are convinced O bona BDC yone tota motlotlegi, ke ne ke re a e gore it will follow the right processes and procedures, nne nngwe ya tse go simololwang ka tsone gore e project e e ka nna ya tswelela kgang e ntse e le kwa phatlaladiwe. E tlhakanngwe gongwe le National court. Jaanong Clause e maphata a Puso ga ba nke ba Development Bank (NDB), ka gore NDB le yone ke e implement. A ko ba tswelele fela ba dire dilo tse, re morwalo fela o e leng gore ga ke itse gore tota tiro ya lese go senyetsa Puso madi ka seemo se se ntseng jaana. yone ke eng. Nako le nako ba neelwa madi batho ba, ga Jaanong ke ne ke re gongwe o e lebalebe ka tsela e e o ka ke wa itse gore gatwe go diragala eng kwa NDB. faphegileng gore re dira jang gore ditiro di dirwe within Ba leletse ruri, ga ba nke ba dira profit, ba gana go neela budget. batho madi fa batho ba batla madi. Banka e yone tota, e State-Owned Enterprises (SOEs); nnyaa mokaulengwe, bile e ka bo e nna privatised completely, Goromente a se ke ne ke re ke go kope fela go tlhamaletse. Se boife, ke ka a tlhola a e neela subvention ka gore ga gona mosola belaela gore le e tla le boifa fa le batla go di kopanya, gore nako le nako e bo e neelwa madi, mme e sa kgone kana le batla go di fokotsa, a di fokodiwe. Kana fa o go dira dipoelo tse di tshwanetseng. tsaya bo Botswana Development Corporation (BDC), Ka gore ke bona gore nako ya me e a tsamaya Mr Speaker, ke ne ke santse ke bona go na le advertisement gotwe ke ne ke eletsa gore jaaka re bua ka Integrated Support Milk Africa e batla gore… heela! we were on a trip re Programme for Arable Agriculture Development le ba Komiti ya Agriculture. Out rightly, re ba boleletse (ISPAAD), go a bo gotwe e a baakanngwa. Ga re a itirela gore golo mo ga lona mo le go dirang mo is not going to sentle monongwaga Mr Speaker, gore e re motsotso yield any maduo. Ga go a ya kgakala ka gore gompieno ke ba ba simolotse go batla yo mongwe gape. Dilo tse re wa bofelo, re bo re tlaa kwa Batswaneng, re ba raya re bua ka tsone, mme ga go lebege batho ba SOEs ba dira re ga ba ka ke ba kgona go lema five hectares, mme e go lekanye go bona gore madi a Puso a somarelesega ka bile gape le ditsamaiso tse tsotlhe tse di teng, le ba ba tsela e e ntseng jang. kgonneng go ithekela dipeo, re bo re gana go ba duelela terekere. Nnyaa, ga re a bereka sentle le Batswana. E ke Go a gakgamatsa gore go bo gotwe re tlhoka maši mo ema ka leoto le le lengwefela fela ke re nnyaa, fa ga re a lefatsheng la Botswana. Honourable Matsheka, ke kopa bereka sentle le Batswana, a re ithuteng gore e nne e re gore o re thuse ka madi re dire dikoporase tse dintsintsi. re tlaa fetola sengwe, re e fa batho some kind of grace Kgaolo nngwe le nngwe e bo e nna le koporase e e leng period ya gore ba tlhaloganye gore selo seo se ya go gore maši a a tlhaelang a, re ka ya kwa balemi-baruing fetoga ka tsela e e ntseng jang. ba rona, ba gama maši ba a tlisa fa koporaseng e e tlaabong e le foo, a tle go tlhatswiwa ka fa a dirwang Kwa bofelong, ke batla go bua ka tsela ya Molepolole ka teng, gore a tsene mo mmaketeng. Hei! Batswana rraetsho. Tsela ya Molepolole-Thamaga, kana ke sale ke ba na le dikgomo, ba ka gama maši a a seng kana ka kopa, ke kopile gantsi Minister gore re tsamaye mmogo sepe. Gompieno fela jaana, fa o tswa o ya mo kgaolong a ye go bona ka gore jaanong ke bolawa ke batho. e ke e emetseng, ke balemi-barui, mongwe le mongwe Batho ba ntlhasetse. Fa o ka tsena mo maranyaneng, ba o ntsha maši fela a a ka tshwarang bo 20 litres per day. ntlhasetse ka tsela ya Molepolole-Thamaga, Kubung-

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Moshaweng le ya Gakgatla-Gamodubu. Kana Minister, go raya gore obviously, ke setse ke tsere sengwe se se go sale gotwe tiro e santse e le mo tender for the past tona mo teng, ga a ka ke a reka toiletry ya go nna jalo. three and a half years. Up to now, e ntse tender ya Ga ke gane, ke dumalana le lekgetho. Mo ngwageng e teng, e sa itsiwe gore e tsamaya fa kae, ke tlhalosetsa ya madi, re se ka ra nama re tsentse lekgetho la VAT. Le batho ke reng? Ke ne ke kopa gore Minister, a ko a a go babalela Motswana mongwe le mongwe le yo o sa tlhalose ka tsela e gore tender ya teng, e bokgakala bo berekeng. Jaanong mo re go ba fang, ga go na go lekana, kae, e neetswe mang fa e le gore e abilwe. Batho ba ga ke re go molato. Molepolole-Thamaga ba tle ba utlwe ka gore jaanong ke nna seshabo fela sa gore tsela ga e dirwe, ke nna o kare Mongwame, a e re o sekaseka mo makgethong ka nako ke aketsa batho. A golo fa Minister, fa e le gore you did e tsamaile, Plastic Levy e simololwe to be collected not fund tsela e, ka gore ke itse gore e sale e ntshediwa from the day it was approved. Ba e simolole gone koo. madi ka 2017, mme tiro ya teng ga e etle e dirwa, fa e Batho ba a itse gore ba ntse ba a ja madi ka Plastic Levy. le gore go ntse jalo Tona, ga e na madi, ke kopa gore ka A e ye go senkwa, re a itse gore e simologile leng. Go tsweetswee a e tsenngwe mo lenaneong. ka bonala ka ba ntse ba tsaya Plastic Levy mo go rona le jaana ba ntse ba a e tsaya. Fa go ne go sa nna jalo, ba Go tshwana le tsela e e tswang mo Mogoditshane e ya ka bo ba ne ba emisiwa pele gotwe, namang le sa tseye kwa Thamaga, this A10 road. Tender ya teng e a ne e Plastic Levy. E ntse e tsewa mme ga re itse kwa e yang sale e buiwa ka 2019, up to now ga re itse gore e tsamaya teng. Jaanong ke dumalana le wena gore a e ye go tsewa fa kae. Tota tenders tse di a bo di santse di batlelwa bo mme o e simolole kwa go saleng go dumalanwa gore mang? Tsamaiso ya reng ka tenders, o tshwanetse gore Plastic Levy e nne teng. fa o ntsha tender, e bo e dirilwe mo lebakeng le le kae? Honourable Molale o ntse a bua ka bodirelapuso jo E a bo e batlelwa bo mang ba e leng gore ke bone ba ba gotweng bo a kgaolwa rraetsho. A re emeng pele. Kwa batlang go e neelwa? A ko re baakanyeng golo fa fela Thamaga re tlhoka sub-district. Ga re na bodiredi dilo tsa Puso di tle di tsamaye sentle, re tlogeleng go gotlhelele. A go tsewe ba ba tshwanetseng go kgaolwa sokodisa badirisi ba tsela ba ba duelang makgetho. ba ye go bula sub-district kwa Thamaga. Re tshwere Fa o bua ka makgetho rra, ke tswa foo, fa o bua ka bothata ga go na ditlamelo, ga go na sepe se se diragalang makgetho a dikoloi tse dikgologolo, ke dumalana le kwa motseng ole wa Thamaga. O ka bona gore ga go wena. Kana dikoloi tse kwa mafatsheng a di tswang na the administration centre, ba lebe gore kgaolo ya kwa go one, di tswa koo di kobiwa, ba itse gore the tax Thamaga-Kumakwane e tlhoka eng. system ya bone ya lekgetho la koloi ke gore, the older Honourable Rakgare, ke utlwa gotwe madinyana the vehicle becomes, the more tax the owner pays. a okeditswe. Re kopa library kwa Kumakwane. Jaanong ka kwano di tlisitse pollution. Ga ke gane di re Mongwame, e re o kgaoganya madi ao, o se ka wa lebala hiretse bana, mme ke tshwanelo ya gore o di kgethise Kumakwane gore e tlhokana le library. Ka go rialo, gore le wena o tle o bone letsenonyana leo le e ka reng mma ke eme foo ka gore nako e ntshwere motlotlegi. fa go buiwa ka pollution mo environment, ra kgona gore go nne le fa o ka bonang teng letsenonyana la gore o MR SPEAKER: Ke a leboga Honourable Motaosane. bo o itse gore o ka thusa seemo seo ka sebopego se se Ga ke itse gore a Honourable Kablay o ready, a ntseng jang. maranyane a gagwe a siame? Fa e le gore o siame Honourable Kablay, the floor is yours. Fa ke ntse ke le mo makgethong, tota ke utlwisiwa botlhoko ke ya Value Added Tax (VAT). Kana VAT e ama MR KABLAY (LETLHAKENG-LEPHEPHE): mongwe le mongwe yo o berekang le yo o sa berekeng. Thank you Mr Speaker. Rraetsho, kgantele fa ke bua, Ke teng fela fa ke utlwang botlhoko le go gaisa gone ke ne ka kgaoga. Ke ne ke bua gore Batswana kwa gae foo Dr Matsheka. Ke a itse gore ka fa tshwanelong, fa ba utlwa gotwe go ya go kgaoganngwa madi, ba a ke tsone ditsela tse Puso e phuthang letseno ka tsone. itumela gore ditlhabololo di a goroga mo ga bone, kana Ke dumalana le wena. A re iketleng pele go fitlhelela matshelo a bone a tlile go tokafala. Rraetsho, kgaoganyo re bona seemo sa COVID-19 se tsamayang ka teng. e ya madi e tshwana le cake. Cake e, ke ya Motswana, Lekgetho la 14 per cent e bo le simolola fa manokonoko o batla gore e re fa e kgaoganngwa, e kgaoganngwe ka a COVID-19 a setse a tokafetse. Jaanong go raya gore yo malekanetso a tle a bone sengwenyana. Ke sone se ke o sa berekeng a le kwa lelwapeng, fa ke mo fa P200.00, neng ke se bua rraetsho fa ke simolola.

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Mr Speaker, o fitlhela mo dikgaolong ka bontsi, dilo di one a na le tsela. Dikhansele tsa rona di eme ka dinao, sa diragale. Fa gongwe o fitlhela batho ba solofeditswe di na le tsela ka maP10 million a ditlhabololo. Jaanong e dilo gore mo kgaolong lona re ya go le direla se, re ya tlaare kamoso ke bo ke bua gore, a Goromente a lebale go le direla se. Fa go tshwanetse gore go dirwe, e bo ka Budgets tsa gagwe, a go neelwe constituency nngwe Rre Matsheka a re, “madi ga a yo.” Fa madi a seyo, le nngwe madi e ye go itirela ditlhabololo ka gore moo go raya gore ditlhabololo ga di tle go dirwa. Re ne re gone go a bereka. Mo go nnang go abiwa ditlhabololo, solofeditswe dilo di le dintsi kwa kgaolong ya rona; Budget e abiwa, go se na gope fa ba tsentsweng teng, ga dipatela le junior secondary schools. Gompieno jaana se mo re ka nnang le ditlhaloso tse di kaekae. ga di dirwe, gatwe madi ga a yo. Tsholofelo ya bone ke gore, fa madi a seyo gompieno, go raya gore e tlaare Mr Speaker, a o utlwa Rre Matsheka jaaka a bua gore kamoso a bonala, dilo tsa bone di dirwe. Go tsaya nako thulaganyo e ya lekgetho, re tlile go kgethisiwa for e telele ditlhabololo tsa rona di sa dirwe Mr Speaker. botshelo jwa batho. Re a itse gore batho ba kgaotswe mo ditirong mme fa motho a le dinamanyane tse Kgaolo ya rona ya Letlhakeng ke matlhola a di bona. pedi, tse tharo, a bo a ya go di rekisa gore a ithekele Fa e sale ka Rre Mokgothu, o ne a solofetswa dilo gore koloinyana ya matshelonyana gore a tshele, go bo gotwe ngwaga wa madi wa gore, re ya go dira sekole se, re o tshwanetse go kgetha, nnyaa. Mr Speaker, ga e ka ke ya go dira se. E bo e re fa dilo di tshwanetse go dirwa, ya re, re le mo mathateng a bolwetse jo bo kanakana, Rre Mokgothu a tewa gotwe madi ga a yo, ga re ka ke batho ba senyegetswe ke matshelo, ke ditiro le sengwe ra dira jalo. Selo se rraetsho, le mo go nna se teng. Ke le sengwe, motho a re o a iteka, re bo re re Goromente solofetswa ditlhabololo, jaaka ke ne ke bua gore re ne re …(inaudible)… Lekgetho le Mr Speaker, re tshwanetse solofeditswe sepatela. Re na le lebala la show, re ne ra ra le emisa. A Batswana ba tlogelwe ba tshele jaaka ba fuduga ka diamaramara ra le ntsha gore tle go tsenngwe ntse ba tshela. Dikoloinyana tsa bone tsa matshelonyana primary hospital ya rona. Ga re itse kwa sepatela se leng le mmaofitnyana, o kgona go dira botshelo ka tsone. teng. Mr Speaker, mongwe wa bo Assistant Minister o O kgona go laisetsa batho dikgomo o di isa kwa o di ne a bua gore ditlhabololo tsa rona ga re itse gore ke isang teng, fa letsatsi le phirima, o lebagana le se o se eng di tsamaya jaana, ga di tsamaye sentle. Ga re ka ke jang. Jaanong fa re ba kganela kgakala ka makgetho ra solofetswa dilo, e re di tshwanetse go dirwa, e bo o a rona, mme re ntse re itse mathata a Batswana gore sa itse gore gatwe di ya kae. Ga se mo re tshwanetseng ba tshwere …Ah! Re tlaabo e le gore ga re di tshware go go dira ka gore le re bolaisa batho. Ga re itse gore re sentle. Kamoso re tlaabo re sa itse gore re ka tlhalosa reye batho re reng fa dilo tsa bone di phimolwa. re reng. Re Goromente wa sepolotiki, ga re a tshwanela gore e re re simolola fela, batho ba re tlhoboga. Ba re, Re ne re solofeditswe gore go tlile go okediwa … nnyaa, ba dira matshelo a rona bokete. A re se ka ra fa (inaudible)… kwa Malwelwe le Boatlaname. Gompieno ba kganetso dikgang gore ba ye go polotika ka tsone ga go na sepe se se diragalang. Jaanong le fa re sa neelwe kwa setlhareng. E tlaare a eme mo setlhareng, a bua sepe mo these Budgets, a se batho ba se solofeditsweng gore le a bona maDomkrag ba simolotse ba le kgethisa ba se neelwe ka gore le bone ba tshwanelwa ke le lona ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane. Re le Goromente wa ditlhabololo. Jaanong ga ke batle go tloga ke bua sepolotiki, dilo tse re di lebelele kwa pele go bona gore mafoko a semorafe, e re kamoso go bo gotwe Kablay o kamoso gongwe di ka tloga tsa re bolaya. simolola go bua semorafe ka ditlhabololo. Batho ba tlaa bua jalo gore ke eng ditlhabololo tsa rona di sa tle mme Mr Speaker, re mo mathateng, ke nako ya gore Goromente mo dikgaolong tse dingwe, go tsweletswe go dirwa. Mr a adime madi re dire ditsela. Lefatshe lotlhe la Botswana Speaker, a go sekwasekwe go bonwe gore ditlhabololo ga go na ditsela. Jaaka gompieno dipula di na jaana, di tse, kgaolo nngwe le nngwe ya Mopalamente, ba a di supile gore tota owaii, go ntse go tshamekiwa, ga go na neelwa. ditsela. Dikonotere tse di dirilweng tse, owaii, go ntse Ga ke batle gore kamoso e bo ke bua gore ke eng go sa twe go tshamekiwa, ga go na ditsela. Mr Speaker, ke nako kgaolo nngwe le nngwe ya Mopalamente e neelwe madi ya gore go adimiwe madi, go ye go dirwa ditsela tsotlhe a yone, ba itirele ditlhabololo kwa dikgaolong tsa bone. tsa lefatshe la Botswana. Re tlaabo re eme gotwe, Budget, Budget, fa go tla gore go abiwe madi, dikgaolo tsa rona ga di fiwe. Jaanong go Kwa kgaolong ya me fa o ya Malwelwe, Botlhapatlou, botoka re dire jaaka maP10 million ka gore gompieno Ngware, Moshaweng kana Monwane, ga go na ditsela.

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Jaanong o bo o mpotsa gore botshelo ke eng ka gore metsi fa a tswa kwa Letlhakeng kana Salajwe koo, e le gore a tletse gongwe le gongwe? Batho fa ba lwala, ga go na bolwetse jo bo mo pitlaganyeditse, ke mathata fela. sepe se ba ka yang kwa sepatela ka sone, appointments Re setse e bile re nnile le leso la bolwetse bo, jaanong tsa dingaka, matshelo a batho ba dimausunyana ba re tshogile thata mo kgaolong ya rona. Re batla gore tshwanetse gore ba ye go reka, ga go na fa ba tlolang Goromente a atumetse dilo, didirisiwa tsotlhe tse di ka teng, dilori tsa bone di a totomela. Go tletse metsi mo kgonang go re thusa mo bolwetseng jo. ditseleng, ditsela di itirile megobe jaanong Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, re lebogela thata Lephata la Thuto gore le Tona Segokgo o tshwanetse a ema ka dinao, a leka bo le filwe madi a gore le tle le re thuse mo mathateng a motho wa Modimo. O a leka Rre Segokgo le Director a kanakana a thuto. Re ka leboga thata rra fa le ka kgona wa gagwe Rre Modise Segokgo. Ba fitlhetse lephata le e gore le tle go itlhabolola. Lephata le le ntse e le gore le gore it was in a total mess. Le ne le ntse le eteletswe didirisiwa mo dikoleng ga di yo, mme ba re ga ba na madi, ke batho ba e leng gore fa o re o bua le bone, ba sena ke tsaya gore gompieno ba na le madi, photocopiers, sepe le go utlwa tota, ba sa batle go go reetsa. Ba bo dibuka; sengwe le sengwe se tlaa nna teng. Dikole bo ba bolaela lephata le ruri. Gompieno jaana motho wa Macheng ba tla baakanngwa. Gongwe le gongwe kwa Modimo Segokgo, ga a itse gore a simolole kae, le a junior secondary schools le primary schools kwa go mo nyatsa, le mo supa ka menwana. Jaanong rraetsho, senyegileng ba tlaa baakanya Mr Speaker. batho ba ga rona jaaka ke bua jaana, ba mo mathateng a ditsela, ga dio, ga ba itse gore go ne ga reng Mr Speaker. Le rona re utlwisiwa botlhoko ke gore dikole tsa rona Re ne re kopa rraetsho gore a go emiwe ka dinao go di bo di sa dire sentle mo ditlhatlhobong. Ga se gore ga bonwe gore tota ditsela tsa rona di a baakanyesega, di re na barutabana ba ba itseng go ruta, ba teng; qualified tsenngwa dikonotere. Le fa di sa tsenngwe dikonotere, teachers. Jaanong mathata a bone ke dilelo tse ba di di baakanngwe ka graders, go katelwe mahuti gore lelang tsa gore didirisiwa ga di yo Mr Speaker. Fa e le batho ba tle ba kgone go tsamaya. rona ba dikgaolo tse di kwa tengnyanateng, ke mathata. Bana ba tlaa kgona go ithuta jang go sena chalk kana Mr Speaker, kana bolwetse ke jo jwa Corona. Re tshwere sepe se e leng gore se ka dirisiwa. Go sena photocopying bothata Rraetsho, re leboga Rraetsho Tautona go bo a ne machine e morutabana a ka kgonang to photocopy test a eme ka dinao a leka go thiba gore bo se ka ba oketsega, gore a tle a nne a thuse bana fale le fale. Motho wa ba tsena kwa dipalong tse e leng gore gompieno re ka Modimo o tlaa dira jang a le kwa Shadishadi, Sojwe, bo re lela selelo sa mma wee iyoo. Re batla go leboga Letlhakeng kana Salajwe. Bana ba rona ke jaaka o bona Tautona gore re bo re ne ra mo neela dithata, a di dirisa ba fail jaana Mr Speaker. go bona gore bolwetse ga bo aname. Le rona re batla gore e re kamoso bana ba rona le dikole Re na le mathata ka gore gompieno mo kgaolong e ke e emetseng, re na le sekole sa Mphuthe Junior Secondary tsa rona, di bo di totomaditswe mo televisions le mo School. Bolwetse jo bo shakgetse thata kwa sekoleng dipampiring, gore sekole sa Mphuthe, Sojwe, Salajwe, seo. Re a kopa rraetsho gore a bodiredi jwa COVID-19 di pasitse. E seng gompieno ngwaga le ngwaga fa maduo bo okediwe kwa kgaolong ya me, go kgonwe go bona a tla, re le Mapalamente a dikgaolo tseo, re a inama, gore bo ka thusa jang gore ba ba amegang ba tle ba bakaulengwe ba rona ba re gobolola, ba re tshega, gore thusege. bone e bile ba a itumela, mme ba itumela sentle. Le rona Ventilators di nne teng mo bo Letlhakeng clinic, ka re batla go itumela jaaka bone Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke gore Letlhakeng ke ene centre ya kgaolo e le. Fa o tswa kopa rraetsho gore a lephata le le eme ka dinao. Salajwe, Kaudwane kana Maboane, o tshwanetse wa tsena kwa Letlhakeng. Jaanong machine o nne teng Gape Mr Speaker, kwa dikgaolong kwa barutabana ba a kwa Letlhakeng rraetsho gore batho ba tle ba thusege ngongorega, gore ba sale ba ntse koo. Promotion ya bo fa bolwetse jo bo ka shakgala gore fa ba tla kwa Sir Deputy Headteacher, Head teacher ...(Interruption)… Ketumile, e bo e le gore nnyaa mme fale rraetsho, go go ya go tswa motho go sele, go bo gotwe ke ene botoka, batho go lekilwe gore ba thusiwe ka go hema ka Headteacher, bone ba itse kgaolo ele le bana bale, a gore bolwetse bo gatwe bo tsamaya ka go hema. bona gore ...

Ke tsone dilo tse re neng re di kopa ka gore kgaolo ya MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay! rona rraetsho e kgakala, Molepolole o kgakala; bona gore Sir Ketumile Masire le Gaborone. Jaanong motho MR KABLAY: Jaanong Mr Speaker...

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MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, ke bona letsogo bo Hunhukwe, Ukhwi, Zutshwa le Ngwatle, ga di dire la ga Honourable Monnakgotla le la ga Honourable sentle. Ke a utlwa gore selelo sa gago se tshwana le sa Motsamai. Honourable Monnakgotla o ema ka point me motlotlegi. Tota kgang e ya bana ba ba sa direng efe? sentle kwa settlements, fa o e bona ka koo motlotlegi, e ka dirwa jang? Ke a leboga. MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke ema ka clarification mo go Motlotlegi Kablay. MR KABLAY: Mmaetsho, re mo mathateng a dikole tsa rona tse di kwa tennyanateng. Ke sone se ke neng ke MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, she is asking for ikuela kwa go Minister gore ke bona ba filwe madi, a go clarification. Are you yielding? emiwe ka dinao, lephata la gagwe le tswe mo diofising le ...Silence... tsamaye, ba ye go utlwa mathata gore dikole tse tsa rona di ka thusiwa jang. Bana ba dikole tsa rona mmaetsho, MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, ijajaja, o ga ba dire sentle, ba tlhaelela fela mo go Form 3, ba bo nyeletse jaanong. Honourable Kablay! Honourable ba fela. E bo e le gore go simololwa jaanong go berekiwa Monnakgotla, can you hear me? Ipelegeng. Ga re sa tlhole re batla Ipelegeng mo baneng ba rona. Ke batla Minister le lephata ba eme ka dinao, ... Silence)... ba bone gore bana le ba hostels go ka dirwa jang, ba MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, can you go ahead thusiwa jang gore ba pase Motlotlegi Mopalamente. with your presentation? Go ahead with your debate Rraetsho, ke tswelela... Honourable Kablay. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, Honourable ... Silence... Motsamai’s hand is up. Honourable Motsamai, is your hand up? MR SPEAKER: O tlaa boa? MR KABLAY: Yes, sir. ... Silence... MR SPEAKER: Itlhalose Honourable Motsamai gore MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motsamai, o ne o o ema ka lefe. tsholeditse letsogo, what was your point of raising your hand? MR MOTSAMAI: Tanki Mr Speaker. Go na le bothata golo ka koo, o re bitsa re le on mute ka kwano, e le gore ... Silence... ga re kgone go tsena.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motsamai, o ne o Jaanong ke ne ke re ke kope Honourable Kablay, ke tsholeditse letsogo. elucidate se a neng a se bua mabapi le kgang ya ga...

... Silence... MR SPEAKER: Okay. Honourable Motsamai re go utlwile, point of elucidation. Honourable Kablay, a o a MR SPEAKER: He is back? Honourable Kablay, mo letlelela? Honourable Monnakgotla, is asking for clarification. MR KABLAY: Ke a mo letlelela sir. ...Silence... MR MOTSAMAI: Elucidation. Mr Speaker, kana MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, we cannot hear Honourable Kablay o bua boammaaruri, bogolo jang ka you. kgang e e amang dikole le dikokelwana. A ga a bone go le botlhokwa, kana gompieno re mo leroborobong la MR KABLAY: Yes sir, o ka tswelela sir. Corona gore batho ba ba oketse teams tse di berekelang MR SPEAKER: Okay, Honourable Monnakgotla, go kwa dikgaolong, bogolo jang go sekaseka gore a go ahead. dirwa seemo se se faphegileng mabapi le go anama ga megare? Ke lebile dikgang tsa hostels tsa bana ba rona MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. ba ba katagang ka tsone. Mr Speaker, dikgang tse di a Ke utlwa motlotlegi jaaka a ntse a bua ka dikole, bo tshwenya ka gore go dikole di le tharo, di le pedi mo Shadishadi. O e tshwere sentle motlotlegi gore dikole, kgaolong ya me, primary le junior, tse go setseng go bogolo jang tse di kwa settlements tse di tshwanang le tshwerwe bana ka megare mo go tsone. Ke a leboga.

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MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Speaker. Honourable ...Silence... Motsamai o bolelela ruri rraetsho. Ke sone se le nna ke neng ke se kopa gore a go nne jalo, go okediwe teams. MR SPEAKER: Honourable PPP! Le bone bana ba rona fa e le gore gatwe ba positive, ga re MR KABLAY: Ga a yo sir, mma ke bue. ba bo ba le kwa malwapeng. Go emiwe ka dinao, ba nne ba tlholwa rraetsho, go bonwa gore ba fa kae, ba tshela MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, go ahead. jang, a go na le se ba se jang, ka gore ga ba kgone ba MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, COVID-19 team ka gore ba a bo ba tlhaela Mr Speaker. ke ne ke re batho ba ba neng ba le mo Lephateng la Jaanong fa ba le bantsi, ba bangwe ba ka kgona gore Transport, le fa o ne o le Mopalamente o re o ya go ba ba tsamaye mo ba patilwe, ba bangwe ba tsamaye ka fa bolelela gore kana ga go na tsela... ba tlhola batho gore a ba ntse sentle, a temperatures di siame, a ditaelo tsa bongaka ba a di obamela. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, I have made a ruling. Do not revisit those points. Bolwetse jo rraetsho re tshwanelwa ke go bo emela ka dinao rotlhe. Kana jaaka re le Goromente re batla gore MR KABLAY: I am sorry Mr Speaker. re bo fetse, re dirise sengwe le sengwe se re nang le sone gore bolwetse jo re lwe le jone. Fa e le gore ditlhabololo Mr Speaker, kana rraetsho le neetse Tautona Rraetsho dingwe di tshwanetse tsa diragala, go bonwa gore madi Masisi dithata; sengwe le sengwe gore fa dilo di sa ga a yo, a madi gongwe a tsewe kwa ditlhabololong tsamaye sentle mo bolwetseng jo a eme ka dinao, a tseo, go lwantshiwe bolwetse jo ka gore mo dikgaolong bue, re ko re mo neele dithata gape gore a di tsweledise. tsa rona, ditlhabololo dingwe ga di diragale ka gore Jaanong rraetsho, ke gakolole gore ga go molato gore le gatwe go tserwe madi go lwantsha bolwetse jo. A go fa Tautona a ka tla gompieno a re... nne uniform. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker!

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, letsogo la ga MR SPEAKER: Honourable PPP, ke mang yo o go Honourable Moswaane is up. Honourable Moswaane, letleletseng go bua? No one is allowed to speak. and then Honourable PPP. MR KABLAY: Rraetsho Tautona fa e le gore o bona MR MOSWAANE: Mr Speaker, ke ema ka point of gore ga go a lekana, bolwetse jo ga re ise re lwe sentle order. Ke sale ke tsholeditse five minutes ago. le bone, ga go molato fa re ka bowa ra oketsa State of MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane, can you go Emergency (SoE) ka gore se re se batlang Mr Speaker, ahead. ke gore bolwetse jo bo tswe mo lefatsheng la rona. Re boleletswe gore se re neng re ntse re tlwaetse go se dira, MR MOSWAANE: Point of order. Mr Speaker, jaanong fale le fale ga re tle go se dira. Jaanong ke ne… Motlotlegi Kablay o ne a bua ka lephata la ga Rre Minister Segokgo a re go sentswe sengwe le sengwe, ke MR SPEAKER: Honourable Saleshando’s hand is up maragaraga fela teng, batho bale ba paletswe. Ke tsaya Honourable Kablay. gore se... MR SALESHANDO: Thank you. Fa Honourable MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane, is that out of Kablay a letla, ke ne ke kopa gore a dire tlhaloso ka order? kgang nngwe e a mo go yone gone fa.

MR MOSWAANE: He is out of order because batho MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, go kopiwa ba a reng ba sentse kwa, ga ba ise ba sekisiwe e bile ga tlhaloso mo go wena from Leader of the Opposition. ba ise ba bonwe molato. Jaanong ba tlaa iphemela jang gone fa? MR SALESHANDO: Clarification. Ke a leboga Honourable Kablay. Ka bofefo, ke eng o dumela gore MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa Honourable, a ko o iketle pele. State of Public Emergency se ka fokotsa kanamo ya Honourable PPP. mogare mme go sena lefatshe lepe le le kgonneng go ...Silence... fokotsa mogare ka sone? Mo Botswana, the numbers di santse di pagamelela pele, we are still in our first wave. MR SPEAKER: PPP! Mafatshe a mangwe first wave e fetile, ba wela kwa

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tlase, ba bo digela kwa tlase. Ke eng o dumela gore State ka dinao Mr Speaker fa a bona gore dilo ga di tsamaye of Public Emergency e ka fokotsa go anama ga mogare, sentle. Dilo fa di sa tsamae sentle jaaka re bua ka go ntse go pala mo nakong ya gompieno? bolwetse jo, fa e le gore o bona gore re ka tsamaya re bo anamisa kwa le kwa... MR KABLAY: Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore SoE se re thusitse. Fa go ka bo go ne go na le seemo sa gore MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, Honourable mongwe le mongwe a se ka a dirisa mask, social Triple P is up again, ke kile ka mmitsa kgantele a seyo, distancing e se ka ya nna teng, re ka bo re se fa tlase. ke saitse kwa a leng teng. Bolwetse jo gompieno gatwe bo tsena fa e le gore ga o a tsenya mask. Fa o tsentse mask go botoka, o ka kgona MR MOATLHODI: Point of procedure. Motlotlegi gore bolwetse o bo heme. Jaanong ke bona gore SoE se Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke a leboga. re thusitse fa dilo dingwe di tswa mo tseleng. Kana fa Tota ke ema ka point of procedure mme o tlaa gongwe go fitlhela boitsholo bo seyo kwa dibareng, re nkgakolola rraetsho. I have got nothing against di tswale pele re baakanye gore dilo di tle di tlhamalale Honourable Kablay’s submission. Ke ne ke kopa mo sentle, e bo e le gone re ka bulang. Ke tsone dilo tse re go wena ka gore the whole afternoon fa e sale letsogo di batlang …(Inaudible)… Ga se buleladitswe e bangwe la me le tsholetsegile… the whole afternoon! ke gone ba neng ba e batla. Jaanong ke dumela thata mo SoE, fela o mponang. Jaanong mme tota this new system ke mongwe wa batho ba ba ka e emang nokeng Mr where we are muted from control tower, I am finding Speaker. it very unfair more especially on some of us, and I plead with your good self Mr Speaker, let us go back MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay, Honourable to the old system, where we could mute and unmute Moswaane’s hand is up again. ourselves. Ke a itse gore fa go tlaa nna jalo go ne gotwe bangwe ba a tsenelela. No, I need to be fair and frank, MR MOSWAANE: Mr Speaker, ke procedure. ke Honourable Molale, ke ene a neng a tsenelela. Se MR SPEAKER: Go ahead Honourable Moswaane. re bolaeng ka motho a le mongwe fela bagaetsho, ke a kopa, ke a rapela Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa MR MOSWAANE: I raised a point of order, ga o a Palamente. Ke lebogile sir. mpha tlhaloso ya gore wa reng ka kgang e ke e buileng ya go sireletsa bodirelapuso, boeteledipele jo gotweng MR SPEAKER: Your point is noted sir, mme tota fela boammaaruri ke gore, ne re bona e le a better way bo paletswe? E bile Rre Segokgo ga a itse gore o ka of managing people ba ba tsenelelang, ba le wena ba simolola kwa kae. This is quite damaging to other go tsenelelang Honourable Triple P. I do not think ke people. Honourable Molale fela a le nosi, gongwe o mo ntsha MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane... ka leso legolo. Batho ba bantsintsi ba ne ba tsenenela and that is the best way of managing them. Ke raya gore MR MOSWAANE: Ke batla o e tlhalosa gore o e fetsa your point is noted, we will re-look at it. Kana this is our o reng, go nne very clear Mr Speaker. first time to use this virtual system. So we are looking at the teething problems tsa teng, with a view to improving MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa iketle pele, I am going to it. So in the process, gongwe re tlaa kgona gore re bone be very clear with you. Clear! clear! clear! mind. gore re ka dira jang to manage all of you. Right now, let Honourable Kablay, fa a bua ga a ise a bitse gore us leave Honourable Kablay to go on with his debate. semangmang le semangmang ba corrupt. O rile, there is a lot of corruption e a ntseng a e itse kwa transport, MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, ke e e leng gore right now Minister is fighting to address ne ke bua ka Director of Health Services, gore rraetsho it. Jaanong statement seo, you cannot say somebody is o tshwanetse le ba a ... out of order, because he was saying his view in terms of what he has gathered e le information. So that is why ke MR LEUWE: Point of procedure. Thank you Mr re, you cannot say, Kablay is out of order. Speaker, e ne e le procedure, but you have covered it, mme I beg to differ Honourable Triple P with due MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Speaker, ke re rraetsho respect. Golo mo go dira gore go laolesege tota, ga se sa bofelo ke bue gore kana Director of Health o filwe Rre Molale fela fa e le gore o a tlhagelela, ga ke a utlwa dithata tsotlhe. Jaanong o tshwanetswe ke gore a eme a tlhagelela, mme ga se ene fela. Ba le bantsi fela fa o

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tsweletse o bua, le nna tota maloba fa ke bua batho ba MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ne ba tlhagelela, mme fa go ntse jaaka go ntse jaana, ke RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Mr dumela gore ke gone mo go re siametseng. Se gongwe Speaker, I stand on a point of order ya gore Ntlo e e ke ka se kopang fela go rarabolola lesokolela la ga tlaabo e dule mo tsamaisong gore e re ke na le two days Honourable Moatlhodi ke gore, a go lebelelwe thata ke sa kgone to access in this Chamber go bo gotwe ke matsogo ao, go se ka ga tsaya lebaka letsogo le sa bolo nna yo ke neng ke tlhagelela, interfering. I find that to be go tsholediwa le sa bonwe. System e re e dirisang e, ke out of order, go pateletsa a Member yo o sa dirang sepe dumalana le yone tota Mr Speaker, e laola Palamente se se molato and Rre Moatlhodi o a mpateletsa. sentle thata. MR SPEAKER: Ke a leboga Honourable Leuwe. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Molale, ke go utlwile, Honourable Molale what point are you rising on? mme kana ke kgalemile. Ke buile ka re, nnyaa ga a bue se e leng sone fa a re ke wena o tsenelelang, fa e le gore o ...Silence... kile wa tsenelela. Kana o ne a re ke wena o tselelang fela, MR SPEAKER: Batlotlegi a re arabeleng ka pele ka but re a itse gore go na le ba bangwe ba ntse ba tsenelela, gore jaanong re ja nako. Honourable Mmolotsi, are you ba le bantsintsi, ba re feletseng re dira restriction e e there if Honourable Molale does not appear? tshwanang le e, because it was a bit disruptive. Re a itse gore ke bo mang. Ke raya gore kgalemile, ke tsaya gore MR MMOLOTSI: Mr Speaker, I think Honourable o nkutlwile. I do not think o baya pressure ya gore ke mo Moatlhodi has a point. Tota ke ne ke sa bone o kare golo reye ke re, he should withdraw kana jang, but fa motho mo go bad. Kana re tshwanelwa ke go tlhaloganya gape o mo kgalemetse a go utlwile e le mogolo a tshwana le Mr Speaker gore Palamente ga o ka ke wa e dira gore Triple P, o utlwile. go nne le tidimalo fela e o kareng ke kwa mabitleng. MR KABLAY: I thank you Mr Speaker. Ke re rraetsho Jaanong tota e ne e le gore unmute us and re kope sa bofelo ke bue gore, Director of... Mapalamente gore they should be responsible enough not to disturb the proceedings of Parliament. O kgona MR SPEAKER: Re tlile go go tshwenya mongwame. go nna 10 minutes o tsholeditse letsogo go sena yo o go Batlotlegi ba tsholetsa ba bo ba tsholetsa. bonang, mme fa le ne le ka re letlelela gore o bo o re ke tsholeditse letsogo bogolo, go ne go ka thusa, ka gore le MR THIITE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Going back to lona gongwe le a ne le lebalanyana. Ke a leboga. kgang e ya go tsholetsa mabogo virtually, ke ntse ke utlwa o bua gore jaaka fa le le foo le itse batho ba e leng MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, mme ga re ise re lebale. gore they are bringing disruptions mo Palamenteng. Actually it is me and the Clerks who are always Ke eng fela gone kwa control room le sa ele tlhoko watching the screen. So fa go diragala gore ke bo ke sa (observe) batho ba e leng they bring disruption and then bone, ba a nkgakolola. I do not remember waiting for mute them gone jaana. Go na le gore e nne sengwe le 10 minutes for letsogo la motho, I do not remember that case, not even more than a minute. Jaanong kgang ya sengwe fela, because le nna ke tlhotse ke tsholeditse gore batlotlegi ba ikgalemele, eo Honourable Mmolotsi lebogo almost the whole day, but ga ke ise ke supiwe. ke a e gana, ba padile. That is why we came up with Thank you sir. this restriction. Jaanong what we should expect ke gore kana virtual Parliament ga e tshwane le a physical MR SPEAKER: I think Honourable Thiite you are one, e re ka bong re kopane, interaction will not be the repeating se se ntseng se buiwa, like I have said, we are same, whether we like it or not. So fa re dira virtual ba learning, because the system is new and in any project bangwe ba bo ba eta ba tsenelela ba bangwe, fa motho there are teething problems, and then when they rise you a tsosa modumo kwa a buela kwa godimo, ga re utlwe come up with interim solutions, to come up with long yo o buang. So it is a problem. Fa ele physical go nna term solutions. So that is why I am saying, it is a noted botoka o kgona go utlwa mantswe a mabedi. Jaanong it point, we will look at it. becomes very disruptive. That is why we have resorted to this one. Like I said, we are experiencing this, it is a MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND noted point, Re tlaa e lebelela re bona gore ke eng se COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Thank se ka re berekalang fa re ntse re tsweletse, mme fela e you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, tota le nna ke eletsa ya gore bagolo ba itlhokomele, ke a itse gore e tlile go go akgela fela mo kgannyeng e ya muting all the pala. microphones.

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MR SPEAKER: Is it a point of procedure honourable? incorporate some of them to improve our system. So, do not look at us as people who are closed. Like I said, MR SEGOKGO: Mr Speaker, I think we have all been we have got Clerks here who are watching the screen. trying to give some useful information on this matter of As human beings, yes here and there we can take one procedure raised by Rre Moatlhodi. That is what I am or two seconds without seeing the hands. Nevertheless, speaking on. we are trying our best to be very watchful. Honourable MR SPEAKER: Okay, go ahead but you should state Kablay, go ahead. that you are standing on a point of procedure. MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Speaker. Thank you MR SEGOKGO: Thank you Mr Speaker. I apologise Minister Rakgare. Mr Speaker, labofelo ke bue ka gore for that. Le nna ke ne ke eletsa gore our mikes should not Director of Health Services le bakaulengwe ba gagwe ba have been all muted. I think we have a good history of ba assigned tiro e, ba na le dithata rraetsho. O na le dithata how we arrived there. I am one of the persons that have tsa gore fa a lemoga matshelo a lona a le mo diphatseng complained on several occasions about the interference ka bolwetse jo e bile holidays di gorogile, a bona gore fa and what it even does to the audio ya virtual meetings. batho ba ka tsamaya ka mmetela kwa mafelong mangwe a re tsayang gore bolwetse ga bo bontsi teng, re ya go What I also want to add Mr Speaker, ke gore Rre bo tshela koo, a gane ka permits. Re nne fa re leng teng Moatlhodi does have a point, the virtual hand should go leka go laola bolwetse jo. Gompieno re a lela Mr really work properly. It should not really be that Speaker, gore e rile ka Keresemose re ne ra tsamaya, somebody has to wait that long. I know I experienced mme re ne ra gakololwa gore re se ka ra ya kwa, re it myself. So, it is a plead that le nne le lebeletse so tlholeng bagarona ka megala, re itse gore Keresemose that you are responding quickly to the virtual hand. ga se yone fela e, go tlaa boa go nna le Keresemose, Then the last point Mr Speaker, ke just to try and mme re le Batswana ra gana. Re ne ra tsamaya ra re re inform members gore once you have been muted in that tlhoafaletse bagarona; bomme, bontate le bokgaitsadi. manner and locked, there will be a pop-up at the time Jaanong gompieno go ne ga diragala eng? Gompieno when the control or the host unmute you. Something ba a lela. Go na le bangwe ba ba neng ba tsamaya ba pops-up on your screen. When that pop-up pops-up, it tswa ka kwano gongwe ba tshotse bolwetse jo ba sa asks you, “do you want to stay muted or do you want to itse. Gompieno bolwetse jo jaanong bo a anama kwa unmute? Please click the unmute.” Very often fa batho dikgaolong tse re neng re sa di solofela. ba ntse ba re maranyane ga a dire, it is either they are not responding to pop-up or it is because they are just Ke a kopa rraetsho gore a ba dirise dithata tsa bone. Ga clicking on the stay muted. The pop-up has two options go na ope yo o ka ba dirang sepe. Ke go leka go sireletsa and one of it is to say “unmute.” Thank you Mr Speaker. matshelo a Batswana, a rona. Monate ga o tle letsatsi le letsatsi. A re itseng gore monate o re neng re ntse re o ja MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Segokgo. ka dingwaga tsele, gompieno ga re kitla re o o ja, e se Honourable Rakgare, I hope you are not repeating the gore Goromente kana Director of Health o re gateletse, same words which have been said by others. e le jone bolwetse jo. Ke sone se ke neng ke re ke se bue Mr Speaker. MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR Sa bofelo rraetsho ke leboge lephata la ga Rre Moagi, RAKGARE): Procedure. Ee rra. Mr Speaker, ke ne ke Minister wa Green Technology. Rraetsho, re bone batla go kopa fela gore can we allow Honourable Kablay motlakase kwa dikgaolong. Ke o bone mo kgaolong e to continue? We will talk about this issue kwa General ke e emetseng. Ke kgaolo e le nngwefela e e senang Assembly. Otherwise, mongwe le mongwe o tsile go fa motlakase. Se se supa gore tota fale le fale fa go na le opinion ya gagwe re bo re kgoreletsa member go bua. O phatlha, Goromente o a leka. Re batla a dire jalo le mo tshotse dikgang tse dintsi tse di monate. Please, I plead ditlhabololong tse dingwe tsa lefatshe le. Batswana ba with you, let us allow Honourable Kablay to continue itumetse gore ba tshuba ka motlakase, candles bagaetsho and conclude his debate. ke dilo tsa maloba. Re a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much Honourable Mr Speaker, ya gore go kgaolwe bodiredi, re tshwanetse Minister. Like I said, we are not a closed institution. ra e sekaseka thata. Re solofetse go le gontsi mo We are accepting those comments in a view to try to dikgaolong tsa rona. Re solofetse gore kgaolo ya

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Letlhakeng e nne district ka boyone, e tswe mo bo MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, the arrangement is we are sub-district. Go raya gore e batla bodiredi jo bontsi jo going to take two and one. So, we took Honourable bo tshwanetseng go ya kwa teng. Molepolole o sale a Kablay and Honourable Motaosane, so we now move to re tshegeditse ka lobaka le le leele. Ke nako ya gore the other side. Honourable Tshere, go ahead. jaanong re le kgaolo ya Letlhakeng, re ikemele, re fiwe madi a mantsi gore re tlhabolole kgaolo ya rona ka gore MR TSHERE: Thank you Honourable Speaker. I e tona. Fa re ntse re e tshwarisitse kwa Molepolole, ga think re simolola nako sešha jaanong. Ke leboge gore re dirilwe sentle ka gore dilo tse dingwe tse e ka bong o mphile nako e gore le nna ke akgele mo mafokong bagarona e e le bone ba di akolang, ga ba kgone go di a ga Tona Dr Matsheka gore ke tle ke ntshe lentswe akola ka gore go tswa fa gatwe Molepolole, Khansele ya la ba Mahalapye. Fa ke sena go nna ke go leboga, ke Kweneng e tsere bokana, lona sub-district le bo le fiwa leboge gape le Opposition Whip yo o sa tswang go bokananyana jo bo sa lekaneng. tlhomiwa Honourable Motsamai ka gore bagarona ba ne ba ntse ba re, ‘fela fa le tlhoma motho gore e nne Re batla bodiredi rraetsho. Jaaka Honourable Whip kwa opposition, re a mo tsaya.’ Jaanong re le Monnakgotla a ne a bua, we are not all business people. peketse gompieno. Ke batla go bona gore a le tlaa tsaya Fa e le gore gatwe tswang le ye kwa dikgwebong, Honourable Motsamai. Ke gone ka fa re pekileng ka lemmenyana le re neng re tlaabo re le neelwa ke teng gompieno. Mo ditebogong tsa me gape mma ke Goromente re ya go le phimola, re le dirisa mo e leng eleletse le Mopalamente wa pele wa Gaborone Legare gore gongwe re ne re sa itse se re se dirang ka lone, e e bile e le lebutswapele la sepolotiki, e le the founding re kamoso re bo re tshwenya bo Mmaboipelego gotwe President wa BCP, Comrade Michael Kitso Dingake, re phakisiwe. Ke sone se ke reng rraetsho, rona ba dingwaga tse 93. dikgaolo tse di fatlhogang re batla bodiredi jo bontsi jo O kgona go bona gore o tsamaile thata, ke re, “long live bo nang le experience, go sa tsewe jo bo paletsweng mo Comrade Dingake, long live.” dikgaolong tse dingwe bo bo bo ya go latlhelwa kwa go rona. Re batla bodiredi jo bo nang le boikarabelo, jo bo Fa ke boela mo thulaganyong ya ga Honourable Dr ka emang ka dinao jwa leka go tlhabolola dikgaolo tsa Matsheka… rona. Ke jone bodiredi jo re bo batlang Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Healy’s hand is up, Honourable Tshere, what point are you rising on MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much Honourable Honourable Healy? Kablay. MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Thank you Mr MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Thank you Speaker, clarification. very much Honourable Speaker. Kgantele Honourable MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, he is asking for Speaker yo a neng a tshwere o ne a re ga ke utlwale clarification, are you yielding? sentle ka koo. Jaanong ga ke itse gore a ke a utlwala gompieno Honourable Speaker? MR TSHERE: Ao, ga gona clarification Mr Speaker. Mma ke tswelele pele, re tlaa bua kamoso. MR SPEAKER: You are very loud and clear. MR SPEAKER: Go ahead Honourable Member. MR TSHERE: Thank you very much. Go raya gore ke ka tswelela. Santlha mma ke go leboge go o bo o mphile MR TSHERE: Thank you very much. Mma ke tsene mo dikgannyeng tsa ga Dr Matsheka e le Tona ya Itsholelo. tshono… Mr Speaker, ke la bobedi ke ntse ke nna mo Ntlong MR SPEAKER: Sorry Honourable Tshere before you e mo freshman term ya me, ke le Mopalamente wa go on. I can see Honourable Brooks’ hand is up. What Mahalapye Bophirima, ke reetsa pego e. Se ke setseng ke se itemogetse jaaka bakaulengwe botlhe tota ba ba point are you rising on Honourable Brooks? buileng fa pele ga me ke gore, go a bonala gore madi a MR BROOKS: Sorry Mr Speaker, I thought I was lefatshe la Botswana ga a abiwe ka tekatekano. Selo se the next person to speak after Honourable Kablay but re tshwanetse go se ela tlhoko, ga a abiwe ka tekatekano, Honourable Tshere managed to catch your eye. Thank ke sale ke nna fa dingwaga tse pedi, pego e ke ya you. bobedi, ga e bue sepe ka Mahalapye le matshwenyego

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a re nang le one kwa motseng wa Mahalapye. Ke sone LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): se ke tlatsang ba ba reng resources tsa lefatshe le are Thank you Mr Speaker, ba a diega go ntsha golo mo ga disproportionally distributed. Rona kwa Mahalapye re bone le fa Rre Seretse a ne a re go na le se se tswang, go beilwe ka fa mosing fa go tla go phatlalatsa meamuso ya tsaya nako gore se tswe se thuse motho. In any case… lefatshe le. Ke ipotsa gore re diretse eng lefatshe le, re le ba Mahalapye. Fa ke go fa sekai, batho ba Mahalapye MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, we seem to ba sala ba solofela bus rank. Fa ke ka go fa ditso be having a technical problem, we cannot hear you Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, Mahalapye Bus properly. Rank e ne e le teng, e ne e agilwe ka 1985/86, gone foo. MR TSOGWANE: Procedure Mr Speaker. E le ya selebego le seemo sa nako eo, mme e rile fa tsela ya A1 e ntse e gola ya bo e e ja mo bus rank ya motse wa MR SPEAKER: We cannot hear you properly Mahalapye. Ke gone fa kgopolo e neng ya diragala ka Honourable Leader of the House. nako eo, gore a re fudugeleng gone fa o bonang bus rank MR TSOGWANE: Procedure Mr Speaker. e le teng. Gotwe re fuduga ka nakwana, re tlaa nama re le foo e le gore ke sone se ke se utlwang. MR SPEAKER: You are cutting, we cannot hear you. Go ahead Honourable Leader of the House. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, go lebega system ya gago e tla e kgaoga. Ga ke itse gore a o na le an MR TSOGWANE: Ke a utlwala Mr Speaker, o a expert yo o ka go thusang to clarify your system, but go nkutlwa? ahead. MR SPEAKER: That is better, that is better, yes. MR TSHERE: Ga ke itse gore a gompieno go botokanyana gongwe ke atumele thata? MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, ba reye ba go thuse ka koo. Tota ke ne ke raise procedure. Rre Tshere o ne a utlwala MR SPEAKER: It is even worse. fela sentle, rona re ne re mo utlwa. Go raya gore ya gago MR TSHERE: Ao! Ee, ga ke itse mma ke leletse ba system ke yone e nang le mathata ka koo. Ke raya gore nnetlane. Ga ke itse gore o ka nama o dirile jang, re Rre Tshere fa a bua o ntse o re ga a utlwale, rona re ne freeze nako ke leletse ba Information Technology (IT) re mo utlwa fela sentle mo system kwano, he was very Mr Speaker? clear. Gongwe ba go thuse ka koo, ka gore…

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, can we give the MR SPEAKER: Fa Modulasetilo a sa utlwe… floor to Honourable Brooks. Once you have clarified your system, you will take the floor maybe tomorrow. MR TSOGWANE: Ke sone se ke reng gongwe o ba reye ba go thuse ka system ya gago koo, ka gore o tsile MR BROOKS (KGALAGADI SOUTH): Thank you go nna o fetola Mapalamente. Their flow is not going to Mr Speaker, go bo o mphile nako e gore le nna ke ka be right, le go begwa ga bone kwa Botswana Television akgela mo puong ya ga Tona, ya Ngwaga wa Madi (BTV) kwa go ya go nna problematic. E tlaa re motho a wa 2021/2022. Le nna ka botswapelo ke latlhele la bua 10 minutes, go bo go tsena yo mongwe 10 minutes, mmotlana, ke leboge Tona gore o kgonne go susuetsa a batho ba bo ba sa itse gore go rileng. Ke a leboga Mr leka a lebile bothata jo re mo go jone jwa COVID-19, a Speaker. kgona go re tlela ka se a re tletseng sone Mr Speaker. Ke batla go riana ke… MR SPEAKER: Ke a go utlwa Honourable Leader of the House, but what I am saying is that if the Chair MR SPEAKER: I can see the Leader of the House’s cannot hear, then it is a problem. That is why I did not hand up, Honourable Brooks. Leader of the House, what allow him, because I have to manage the meeting, so point are you rising on sir? if I cannot hear you then there is no way I can allow …Silence… you to continue. That is why I have allowed Honourable Brooks to take over. I hope the system will correct and MR SPEAKER: Your Honour the Vice President, on would not repeat that thing again. what point are you rising sir? MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker, ke dumela gore …Silence… ke utlwala sentle. Ke a utlwala Mr Speaker?

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MR SPEAKER: You are very clear. neng ba tswa mo kgaolong ya Kgalagadi Borwa. Ke lele, ke bo ke eme le bone mo kutlobotlhokong ke re, MR BROOKS: Thank you sir. Ke dumela gore tlhe bathong sorry tlhe, Modimo ke oo. manokonoko a a re wetseng a, bontsi jwa rona le… Ke batla go bua ke tlhamaletse Mr Speaker, ke ema MR SPEAKER: I can see Honourable Mmolotsi’s le the frontline workers ba ba lwantshang mogare wa hand up Honourable Brooks. Motlotlegi Mmolotsi, your COVID-19, segolo jang ba Kgalagadi South District hand is up, o ema ka lefe? Health Management Team (DHMT), le stakeholders le MR MMOLOTSI: Procedure. Mr Speaker, ke bone ke ba ame ka lefoko ke re bagaetsho, ke lemogile dumalana le Leader of the House gore Honourable mo malatsing a a fetileng gore bolwetse fa bo tsaya Tshere was very audible rona re mo utlwa. I think go raya phekelo e sele kwa kgaolong ya Kgalagadi, le ne le eme gore bana ba rona ba IT ba tle ba thuse koo, ka gore ke ka dinao, le sa lebe ditlamelo ka fa di ntseng ka teng. belaela gore fa jaanong re ntse re kgaola Mapalamente Bonnyennyane jo bo neng bo tsena mo diatleng tsa lona, ba tla kamoso, like the Vice President (VP) said, tota le ne le bo dirisa mo go siameng le mo go tshwanetseng, go bolaya flow ya bone and therefore ga ba ka ke ba mpeetšhane a kgaoga. Tshwarang thata bana ba ga mme, wela sentle. I think we should deal with this problem, le tle le kgone go boloka matshelo a setšhaba. Mapalamente ba tle ba kgone to flow sentle, ba digele Mr Speaker, fa ke tsena mo Budget, ke tlhamalale fela their presentations. ke re fa o lebile page 20 ya Budget ya gompieno, ga ke MR SPEAKER: I totally agree with you. kgatlhanong le yone le ka fa Tona Matsheka a e beileng ka teng. Ke bua my contribution fa ke ne ke e lebile Mr MR MMOLOTSI: Gape Mr Speaker, kana fa re ne re Speaker, gore gongwe go ne go ka nna botoka ka nngwe kgona to unmute ourselves, re ne re ka go gakolola gore, tsela fa re ne re ka e dira ka fa go ntseng ka teng kana ka nnyaa mme Mapalamente re a ba utlwa rona. So that fa ke akantseng ka teng. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, I am not you deal with nnetlane ya gago ka koo, and not close out disputing what the Honourable Minister brought before Mapalamente ba bone ba siameng fela. us but actually, I am adding se ke lemogang gongwe se ne se ka re berekela botoka. MR SPEAKER: How do I deal with my matter? Ke utlwa sentle kana, your point is noted, but if I do not Mr Speaker, ke batla go supa fela gore fa re lebile hear you I mean, how can I continue with the debate? botsogo, seru se se re wetseng mo bogompienong, ke I have to close the Member and then get the one who dumela gore ke ntwa e e bolotseng, e e mashetla, e e is audible. Let us allow this to go on, re tlaa leka gore neng e batla gore le rona re bo re eme ka dinao, re e re bue le IT experts tsa rona to manage the situation. ipaakanyeditse kana re e ipaakanyetsa re sa oshaoshe. Ka Like I have said earlier, we are experiencing teething go rialo, re ne re tshwanetse gore gongwe re akanyetse problems, so let us be patient Honourable Members. I gore Ministry wa Botsogo, o ka bo o nnile wa bobedi go think le ba BTV ba tlaa re inela diatla metsing fa e le fiwa selekanyo se se kalo sa madi go na le Ministry wa gore there is no flow. Defence, Justice and Security. That is my observation MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke santse as Honourable Member of this Honourable House, Mr ke batla go simolola mafoko a me ke re, ke dumela gore Speaker. Fa re lebile ntwa e, e ne e batla gore re e emele COVID-19 ke nngwe ya dibetso tse di wetseng lefatshe ka dinao, re e lwantshe tota re sa oshaoshe, mme re la Botswana, di wetse lefatshe ka kakaretso. lebile rollout programme jaaka Minister a sa tswa go e bua mo maabanyeng gore o ikaeletse go tsamaya jang. Bangwe ba rona ke gone re utlwang manokonoko a Ke dumela gore o ne a re baya pele moalo wa gagwe ka kana a go wela ke seru se tshwana le COVID-19. Ka go tsela e a batlang re ka intervene, ra ya go mo thusa, ra rialo Mr Speaker, gore gongwe re bo re dira reference akantshanya gore a e atolose jang. mo dilong tse di kileng tsa diragala pele, go ya go nna thata. Re tshwanetse gore re ikele tlhoko kana re lemoge Mr Speaker, se se gwetlhang gore ke bo ke rile Ministry seemo se re mphitlhelang re le mo go sone Mr Speaker. wa Botsogo o ka bo e nnile wa bobedi mo go fiweng jaaka di tlhomagane jalo, ke lebile clinics tsa rona Mr Speaker, ke batla go simolola fela ka go lela le botlhe mo lefatsheng la Botswana, segolo jang tsa kgaolo ba ba neng ba tlhokafalelwa ka nako ya COVID-19 mo ya me, gore fa e kare kamoso go bo gotwe molemo Botswana le lefatshe ka bophara, segolobogolo ba ba ke o, lantlha re ya go o baya fa kae? La bobedi batho

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ba re tshwanetseng gore re ba kente, kana re ya go MR BROOKS: Ga se gore ba njela nako Mr Speaker? kenta batho lefatlhe lotlhe, re ya go ba kentela fa kae? Fa o lebile Clinic ya Bokspits kana the Bokspits, MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa rra. She is asking for Rappelspan, Vaalhoek and Struizendam (BORAVAST) elucidation. Cluster, re bua ka batho ba ba seng kana ka sepe Mr MR BROOKS: I yield Mr Speaker. Speaker. Meraka le merakana e e dikologileng kgaolo ya Bokspits, gore clinic ya bone… MS MONNAKGOTLA: On a point of elucidation. Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke leboge Motlotlegi Brooks, MR SPEAKER: Order! Honourable Brooks, ke bona o e tshwere sentle thata, bogolo jang fa a bua ka clinics letsogo la ga Honourable Motsamai. Motlotlegi, o ema tsa bo Bokspits, tse di kwa Ukhwi le Hunhukwe. Di di ka point efe? Motlotlegi Motsamai, your hand is up. nnyennyane motlotlegi mo e leng gore ga re itse gore tota MR MOTSAMAI: Mr Speaker, ke sale ke tsholeditse batho ba, ba ya go kentiwa jang. Tona wa tsa Botsogo, pele fa o bitsa clerk a go gakolola foo. a e lebelele thata gore clinics tseo, kana go tshwanetse gore go nne le social distancing le tsone fridges tota. Ke MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motsamai, can you go to a leboga Mr Speaker. what you want to say. MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke sone se MR MOTSAMAI: Point ya me Mr Speaker, e ne e le ke se buang. Ke ne ke santse ke gatelela gore fa re correction mo statement sa ga Honourable Brooks. O lebile clinic ya Bokspits, ke ne ke fetile ka yone. Fa buile sengwe se se ka tlogang sa se ka sa tsena sentle mo re lebile primary hospital ya Tsabong, kana ke yone ditsebeng tsa batho. basin e e amogelang balwetse botlhe ba ba tswang kwa Kgalagadi, fa tlase ga metse e e masome mabedi le MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motsamai, are you botlhano ya maloba ke e bua Mr Speaker. Ke dumela standing on a point of correction? gore re a lemoga e bile ke maswabi gore le gompieno bo MR MOTSAMAI: Ke a leboga mongwame. Tona ga ba ise ba ko ba ye go ema gone koo. Nte ke se ka ka bua ka gore bo Tona ga ba ise ba ye teng, ke bue MR SPEAKER: Honourable Brooks, are you yielding? ka seemo sa mogare gore se Tona a neng a se re baya MR BROOKS: I am yielding; I am listening to the pele, moalo wa gagwe gore tota o akanya gore re ka mo correction that Honourable Motsamai wants to bring thusa jang. Ke bo ke re fa o lebile Clinic ya Middlepits, before this House. e cluster ya yone re buang ka dikgaolo di tshwana le bo Khawa, Gakhibane, Kolonkwaneng, Bogogobo le MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motsamai, go ahead. meraka e e dikologileng, bo Lobu jalojalo, tsotlhe di tshela gone foo. Fa re bua ka Clinic ya Werda, re bua MR MOTSAMAI: On a point of correction. Mr ka clinic e e akaretsang bo Hereford, Banyana Farms, Speaker, fa a bua a re o isa matshidiso kwa go ba ba latlhegetsweng ke masika le ditsala mabapi le bolwetse Makanyane, Kokotsha, Draaihoek, Makopong, metse e jo jwa leroborobo. A bo a supa gore mme bogolo jang o e dikologileng, le meraka ya teng e tshela gone foo. Mr isa matshidiso a mo go ba Kgaolo ya Kgalagadi. Ke ne Speaker, fa o lebile diemo tse clinics tseo di leng mo go ke re a sutlhe lefoko ‘bogolo’ ka gore leso ke leso fela, tsone, o bo o leba gore fa e sale COVID e simologa, re ga le na gore o kwa Kgalagadi, Ngami, kana o kwa kae. ne ra sukunyetsa, re lwa go le kae. The health workers A a re botlhe fela Batswana ba ba tlhokafetseng, o isa ba kgaolo ya me Mr Speaker, ba ne ba sa robale, ba sa matshidiso kwa malwapeng, ka ke mo itse e le motho robadiwa ke diemo ka fa clinics di ntseng ka teng, ka fa yo o pelo ntle, a se ka a tsenya molangwana wa ‘bogolo bolwetse bo tlhagang ka teng, bo golang ka teng, e ne e le Kgalagadi.’ Tanki. mathata. Jaanong gompieno fa ba ne ba le mo seemong se se ntseng jalo, kana ba santse ba le mo seemong se se MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker. The concern ntseng jalo, kamoso re bo re re tlisa dipilisi, ba ya go di is noted. tshwarela fa kae, ba di tshwara ka ditsela tse di ntseng MR SPEAKER: Honourable Brooks, nte ke riane, ke jang? Ke tsaya gore e ka bo e le nako e gompieno fa re bona go na le Honourable Monnakgotla le ene ke yole o dira Budget, re bo re tsentse the mobile clinics which tsholeditse letsogo. O tle o di tseye tsotlhe. will augment bothata kwa dikgaolong tsone tse.

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Batho ba tabogela teng ba ya go tsaya mokento ka Mr Speaker, ke na le kgaolo e e lebegang e lebalesegile nako go hema dintsho tse di kanakana tse di setseng ya Banyana Farms. Re kile ra bo re na le clinic kwa di re apesa kobo ka letshoba. Mr Speaker, dilo tse re Banyana Farms. E rile fa go phatlaladiwa Banyana tshwanetse ra di bua ka botswapelo re lebile bothata jo Farms, ke batla go supa gore go phatlaladitswe Ministry wa Botsogo o leng mo go jone. Re lebile ka fa botsamaisi ka bodiredi jwa agriculture mo dipolase tseo segajaja se itebagantseng le go lwantsha le go nyeletsa bo santse bo le teng. Fa re bua ka dipolase tsa Molopo lesika loo motho. Ke tsone dilo tse ke di lebileng. le Harvest Group, batho ba ba neng ba le teng ka nako e re neng re na le clinic ba santse ba le foo. Ba santse Mr Speaker, bangwe batlotlegi ba buile thata ka baoki ba tlhokana le tlamelo ya clinic. A re buleng matlho re le dingaka tse di tlogetseng tiro ka bogodi, makoa tabogele fa Banyana Farms, re ise ditlamelo, batho ba ba kana mabaka a mangwe a ba tlogetseng ditiro ka one. tle ba thusiwe ka bofefo. Ke bona o mpontsha nako e o Re tshwanetse ra ema ka dinao go kopa gore ba boele ntseng o tlogela batlotlegi ba e njela. mo tirong, ba tle go thusa go lwantsha leroborobo le. Re tlaabo re sa simolole, re dirile jalo ka malwetse a Mr Speaker, boTona mo nakong e, ba tshwanetse ba lekgwafo le Tlhako le Molomo. Fa go le thata, re bitsa phaphatha bodiredi magetla. Ke sale ke kopile ngwaga dingaka le boralephalo ba ba setseng ba tlogetse tiro ole gore a boTona ba ye kwa kgaolong ya Kgalagadi. Ke gore ba ye go thusa go lwantsha leroborobo le. Mr bua ka boTona ba Health and Wellness in this regard. Ba Speaker, malwetse a mangwe re a itse gore fa go le ye go phaphatha bodiredi jo bo tshwereng ka natla mo thata, re kopa thuso mo baoking ba ba tlogetseng ditiro boemong jwa bone. Ba ye go ba tshwara ka seatla ba re, le bommaboitekanelo gore ba tsenye letsogo go thusa in le kamoso. Golo moo go dira gore bodiredi bo tshware this exercise. ka natla, bo eme sentle.

Mr Speaker, nngwe ya dilo tse re tshwanetseng re Mr Speaker, fa ke ya kwa CEDA, we launched ditshetlana di lebelele gompieno mo health ke gore, re na le tse dintšha teng. I am sorry to say this, re ne re itumela Emergency Medical Service (EMS) ambulances di le re di galaletsa because di ne di oketsa madi ka fa re di kae kwa dikgaolong tse di ka thusang. Kana re bua ka bonang ka teng. Dithuso tse re ka di bonang mo CEDA ntwa e e senang molelwane, re sa re ke ya kwa toropong. at the same time, di re tlisetsa mathata a a kgoreletsang Re bua ka ntwa e e leng gore le the permits di le teng, to access madi ao. Ke bua ka batho ba kgaolo ya me, e tsena fela e betsa. Tona o ka bo a re beetse pele gore when they submit gompieno, o tewa gotwe re batla o re o akanya to distribute these ambulances tsa EMS di le tlela tshekatsheko ya bojang. Ga e ka ke ya re lefatshe la kae kwa dikgaolong di tshwana le Kgalagadi Borwa, Kgalagadi e le la thuo mo dingwageng tse di kanakana, Kgalagadi Bokone, Ghanzi North and Ghanzi South le e re motho a kopa madi go bo gotwe, “tsamaya o ye go lefatshe lotlhe la Botswana. Ke sone se re ka dumelang re tlela report e e supang gore bojang jo bo fa, ke jwa ka boammaaruri jo bo sa jeleng pheko, gore re tshwere mofuta mang.” Mr Speaker, ga go dire dilo sentle, o ya phage ka mangana. Re batla go bona re nyeletsa mmaba go bona mang, kae, gore a dire tiro eo. Mr Speaker, yo o batlang go nyeletsa lesika loo motho. Re dumela se sengwe se se batliwang ke analysis ya metsi. Ga e gompieno gore sengwe le sengwe ga se mmaba, mmaba ka ke ya re re ntse re nosa dikgomo tse di tshwereng ke bolwetse jwa COVID-19. Rotlhe re ka ema ka dinao itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana mo didibeng tsa rona re le Mapalamente, ra dumalana gore a EMS ambulances dingwagangwaga, go bo gotwe o tle ka analysis ya le bodiredi jwa tsone bo ye kwa dikgaolong. metsi. Ga re ka ke ra raya batho re re, re a le thusa, at the Mongwe Mopalamente o ne a bua ka botswapelo a re, same time, re bo re tla ka go ba bofa diphogwana. We are “re tshwanetse re bo re bulegile matlho now, ka ga re going nowhere. Ke batla boTona ba Investment, Trade itse gore se se tlang kamoso ke eng. Today is COVID, and Industry to move out of their comfort zone, ba ye what is next?” A re eme ka dinao re bone gore re oketsa kwa bathong go bona gore CEDA ke eng e ba sokodisa training e e tseneletseng ya baoki le dingaka. Fa madi ka bokete jo bo kanakana. Ga re ka ke ra nna fela mo a ne a le teng, re simolole go busa bana ba rona ba ba diofising mo Palamenteng batho ba na le mathata a to kwa mafatsheng gore ba tle go bereka mo lefatsheng access CEDA e Puso e neng e tsaya gore ba tlaa bona la Botswana, re ba okeletse. Re ba neele se se tlaa ditiro, ba bula ditiro, ba direla lefatshe la Botswana dijo ba ngokang gore ba iphitlhele ba le mo lefatsheng le go dira dikgwebo tse di tseneletseng. Mr Speaker, it is la bone go tla go thusa go lwantsha mmaba yo o re high time we walk the talk. Re se ka ra bua re le kwano, tlhakatlhakanyetsang dilo tse di kanakana. ka kwa batho ba le mo mathateng.

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Kgang e ya bojang, e njetse masole a mmele le go feta. Mr Speaker, kgaolo ya me ya Bokspits, Rappelspan, Ke na le applicants di tshwara 16 tse di neng tsa tla kwa Vaalhoek and Struizendam (BORAVAST) le Kokotsha, ofising ya Palamente kwa kgaolong ya Tsabong le ba ba e santse e le nngwe ya tse di saletseng thata kwa kopileng metsi mo go nna. Ke tsaya gore ke mongwe wa morago. Ke batla go kopa Rre Molale gore, jaaka a barui ba Kgalagadi, gatwe “tsamaya o re tlele report ya tlaabo a ntsha madi a go agela batho ba ba tlhokang, tlhe bojang.” Mr Speaker, ga di ka ke tsa e goga ka tsela e e itebaganye thata le kgaolo ya Kokotsha, Mr Speaker, ntseng jalo. Ba ba batlang go go tokafatsa businesses tsa ke selelo le khuruanyo ya meno. Sekonotere ee, se bone for P50 000 gatwe ba tle ka financial statement, le raletse Kokotsha, mme lehuma le dikologile Kokotsha fa o batla P50 000 go oketsa stock sa gago. Mr Speaker, le BORAVAST. A re emeng ka dinao re lebelele dilo tse, dilo tse dingwe ga se tse re ka di letlelelang. Ke kopa o re tsenye leitlho. Re romilwe ke batsadi ba rona go tswa supe nako kgapetsakgapetsa. koo, ka tshepho le maikaelelo a gore mantswe a rona a tlaa tsena mo ditsebeng tsa botsadi jo bo re eteletseng Fa ke ya kwa Local Government; ke leboga madi a re pele, ba tshwana le ministries tse di farologaneng. Ka tlaa ba neelang. Bothata jwa me bo mo Constituency go rialo, a e re re kopa ministries tse, ba eme ka dinao, Community Projects (CCP). Gompieno we submitted ba ye kwa dikgaolong tse, ba ye go bona se re se buang the project memorandum ya 2020/2021 tsa CCP, di fa ba batla boammaaruri jwa bokete jwa dikgang tse re tshwerwe ka gatwe go na le madi a re sa a dirisang. Fa re di buang tse Mr Speaker. ya kwa dikhanseleng tsa rona tsa Kgalagadi, tsa re madi re a dirisitse. Fa re boela kwano re tla go dirisa…Ke gore Mr Speaker, go aga mantlo a barutabana kwa McCarthy’s re tshameka jaaka Gunners le Gaborone United (GU), Rest, ga re ka ke ra solofela gore maduo a ka tokafala, bolo e ragelwa kwa, e ragelwa kwa, re le Mapalamente. fa barutabana ba santse ba commute 30 kilometres (km) Mr Speaker, boammaaruri bo mo go mang? Fa re ya phakela le phakela mo serameng, mo dipuleng le mo kwa dikgaolong, planners di ne tsa ntshupegetsa report ditseleng tse di maswe between Tsabong le McCarthy’s gore rra, madi a the financial projects tse gotweng di a Rest, re bo re re re ka solofela maduo a a botoka Mr kolotiwa, re a dirisitse. Problem ke gore, the ministry Speaker. Bana ba Phepheng, ba santse ba tsamaya 15 km does not update reports tsa bone ka nako. Ke sone se phakela le phakela ba ya sekoleng sa Bopaganang kwa go lebegang e kete mo system re a kolota mme re sa Draaihoek, re bo re re go ka nna botoka Mr Speaker. kolote. Mr Speaker, a re tlhabololeng ka fa re dirang dilo Mr Speaker, ga gona kgaolo epe e e ka nnang e sena ka teng, go tokafatsa seemo sa dingwaga tse tlhano tse tlhogo. Re kopile, ke buile, ke rapetse, ke kopa gore re tlaabong re santse re le mo Pusong. Batswana ba re a Kgosi ya Werda, Kgosi ya Vaalhoek, go lebelelwe adimile nako e gore re ba direle ditlhabololo jaaka re ba solofeditse. dikopo tsa bone. Ke batla go tlhamalala fela ke re ke kopile jalo, ka gore bone ba ne ba ikopetse kokeletso, ga Ke batla go leboga thata Mr Speaker, fa re bua ka ke re ba okelediwe. Ga re ka ke ra nna fela nako e e kana, Ipelegeng. Ke dumalana thata jaaka Rre Molale a sa tswa ke gore ga go tshwane le Dikgosi tse di tlogetseng tiro go bua gore, re fetole seemo sa Ipelegeng. Mr Speaker, ka bogodi. Ke gone fa re ka lebelelang, re ka reng ee, go bontsi jwa bana ba me mo kgaolong, mo dingwageng COVID-19 consultation e ya go nna mathata. Re bua tsele tsa maloba, Ipelegeng e go neng go agiwa dikole, ka Dikgosi who are already there, they have submitted go agiwa bus shelters, le mole le mole, ba ne ba ithuta gore re kopa gore re okelediwe. Kana “naga e e senang go aga. Gompieno ba kgona go itshetsa ka diatla ka gore khudutlou, bo lebeto ba ipha naga” Mr Speaker. Jaanong ba ithutile go aga kwa Ipelegeng. Mr Speaker, a re tsene setšhaba sengwe le sengwe se thata ka go nna le, a ke mo lenaneong leo, mme ke sebete se molangwana ka Kgosi e e tsetsweng, a ke Kgosi e e tlhophilweng, for as gore ke pina e re saleng re e opela since last year, go long as go na le Kgosi mo motseng oo, o ikutlwa o le pala eng? Ke eng se se santseng se pala gore re tsene mo thulaganyong e, jaaka re tlaabo re simolola ngwaga motlotlo Mr Speaker. Ke sone se ke neng ke re ke bue ka wa madi, re simolola Ipelegeng kana jaaka re ne re bula sone ka bofefo Mr Speaker, gore a re lebelele. Ke santse 2021 ka January jaana, re bo re bona batho ba tswa mo ke batla go supa gore, Dikgosi tsa kgaolo ya me go na le go tlholeng ba kgaola bojang, ba aga matlo, ba aga dilo ba ba saleng ba kolotiwa overtime ka first lockdown, le tse di tshwanetseng tsa Ipelegeng. Re tshwerwe ke eng jaanong ga ba ise ba duelwe overtimes tsa bone. Selo se Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, ke mathata.

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Kgaolo ya me Mr Speaker, ke mathata fela. Fa e sale re nna le sub-district dingwaga tse some tse di fetileng, mme ga re ise re bo re nne le Molaodi at sub-district level. Molaodi yo o leng teng, yo le ene a tshwareletseng, kana ke bona ke bereka fela ka botsadi, ke a ba leboga gore ba bo ba dira tiro sentle, mme ke bereka fela ka ba ba tshwareletseng. Ke tlaa neelwa leng Molaodi yo o tlaa dirang. Re tlaa ya kae fa re santse re bereka ka bodiredi jo bo tshwareletseng. Ke tshogile jaaka go ntse gotwe posts tse dingwe di ya go kgaolwa Mr Speaker, a se gore le ya Bolaodi ya Tsabong Sub-District ba ya go kgaola Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Honourable Members, nako e tšhaile. O santse o saletswe ke motsotso, mme nako e tšhaile Honourable Member. At this juncture, let me call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke kopa gore batlotlegi jaanong ba ka ya go ikhutsa. Le ntse le a a leka maranyane borra, le a leka.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until Friday 12th February, 2021 at 9:00 a.m.

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