DAILY HANSARD 23 November 2020
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DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THETHE SECOND FIRST MEETING MEETING OF THE O FSECOND THE FIFTH SESSION SESSION OF OF THETHE ELEVEN TWELFTHT HPARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT MONDAY 23 NOVEMBER 2020 MIXED VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO: NO. 200 193 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. (Acting Opposition Whip) Shoshong Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 23 NOVEMBER, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...............................................................................................................1-7 Response to the President’s Speech Motion (Resumed Debate)............................................................................................................................8-36 Monday 23rd November, 2020 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Monday 23rd November, 2020 development status of all farms in Botswana, including those on state and tribal land. The THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. conclusion of this exercise which is anticipated (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) during the next financial year will provide a more precise response to the question. P R A Y E R S (iii) Your advice on the introduction of tax on farms * * * * that are not in productive use for a specified period of time has been noted. It is something that my MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! ministry will consider in the future going forward. Honourable Members, good afternoon. May we start our business of today with questions. (iv) Mr Speaker, the creation of a buffer zone between the river and the commercial farms requires QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER negotiations with the farmers to expropriate TULI BLOCK FARMS some portions of the land for the stated activities, taking note that the middle of this river is the DR K. GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- international boundary we will also have to RAMOKGONAMI): asked the Minister of Land engage our neighbour (Republic of South Africa) Management, Water and Sanitation Services to update on this issue. However, my ministry will soon this Honourable House on the status of Tuli Block embark on an exercise to negotiate for a servitude Farms and to state: or way leave along our international boundaries to facilitate opening up of patrol routes for security (i) the total number and ownership of farms per purposes. I thank you Mr Speaker. nationality; HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. (ii) how many farms are owned by absentee landlords, and how many of them are not in productive use; HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. (iii) whether he would consider introducing tax on DR GOBOTSWANG: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr farms that are not in productive use for a specified Speaker, ke a leboga ka karabo ya gago Tona. Ke ne ke period of time; re o tlhalose sentle Tona ka gore ga ke itse gore a o a itse (iv) whether he would consider creating a buffer zone gore mo nakong e e fetileng, go ne go na le buffer go between the commercial farms and Limpopo River tswa mo nokeng go ya kwa dipolase di simologang teng? to allow local communities access to the river for A o itse kgang eo? Melao ya mafatshefatshe ya reng fa grazing, fishing, small scale riverbank irrigation go tla fa noka e felelang teng le tsela e go tshwanetseng and tourism. gore e bo e ka dirisiwa? MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER Tona, o tlhalose sentle, o kare o ne o re go na le dipolase AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): dingwe tse di duleng mo makonong. A ke boammaaruri Thank you Mr Speaker. go na le dipolase tse di ka tswang di dule mo makonong a tsone a ntlha? Fa e le gore di teng, wa re o ya go dira (i) Mr Speaker, Tuli Block has a total of 95 original jang ka tsone Tona? Ke a leboga. freehold farms and out of these, 78 farms have legal boundaries up to the middle of the Limpopo MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo River being our international boundary with South tsa Palamente. Dipolase tse kana di beilwe ka 1906, go Africa. The ownership of farms needs a thorough raya gore ga ke itse fa go na le buffer zone ka gore ka investigation and verification, and the exercise is tebego fa re lebelela mo dibukeng tsa rona, re ne ra work in progress. itemogela gore di beilwe ka 1906 through Proclamation No.13 ya 1905. Go raya gore fa go na le buffer, ga re (ii) Mr Speaker, for one to ascertain the absentee and itse ka yone. productive use of freehold land, there is a need to conduct an intensive field investigation. Currently, Potso ya bobedi ke gore a mme di mo seemong se di there is an ongoing exercise to determine neng di beilwe ka teng ka 1905? Ee, ka kitso ya rona Hansard No 200 1 Monday 23rd November, 2020 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER di mo seemong sone seo mme jaaka ke tlhalositse mo HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further supplementary. karabong ya me, ke rile re mo thulaganyong ya go sekaseka gore a mme dipolase tse di santse di le mo MR GREEFF: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. seemong se re dumalaneng ka sone mo dipampiring tsa Tona, a lephata la gago le ka se ka la consider go reka tsone. Ke a leboga. nngwe ya dipolase tse gore e nne mafudiso a Batswapong ka gore gompieno lefatshe la kwa Tswapong, fa o lebile HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. bo Ngwapa, Mokobeng le Machaneng, ba pitlagantswe ke dipolase tse? Thank you.