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Wednesday Volume 640 9 May 2018 No. 135 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Wednesday 9 May 2018 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2018 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 659 9 MAY 2018 660 Gavin Robinson (Belfast East) (DUP): I associate House of Commons myself with the Minister’s remarks about the tragic death at the Belfast marathon in my constituency on Monday. Wednesday 9 May 2018 The Minister is right to indicate that this is a devolved matter, but we are implementing national policy in The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock Northern Ireland. May I invite him to ensure that we operate this policy in the most compassionate and caring way possible? Will he meet a range of stakeholders PRAYERS including me, Women’sAid, the Royal College of Midwives The Chairman of Ways and Means took the Chair and others? as Deputy Speaker (Order, 8 May, and Standing Order No. 3). Mr Vara: The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that we should deal with this in a sensitive manner. I am of course more than happy to engage with relevant stakeholders, and to meet him and any others he wishes Oral Answers to Questions to bring along. Alison Thewliss (Glasgow Central) (SNP): The benefits charity helpline Turn2us has evidence that women are NORTHERN IRELAND choosing to abort and terminate their pregnancies as a result of this Government’s despicable two-child cap. The Secretary of State was asked— The Northern Ireland Association of Social Workers says, despite the Minister’s assurances, that the law is Two-child Tax Credit Cap the law and that women and those who support them in their applications could find themselves prosecuted under 1. Danielle Rowley (Midlothian) (Lab): How many section 5 of the Criminal Law (Northern Ireland) Act women in Northern Ireland have applied for an exemption 1967. Will he accept that the two-child policy, and the to the two-child tax credit cap on the ground of non- rape clause of which it stands part, is abhorrent and consensual conception. [905142] unacceptable, and will he support its abolition? The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Mr Shailesh Vara): May I start by paying Mr Vara: I repeat what I said earlier: this is a devolved tribute to Stephen Neil Heaney, who tragically died matter. We have to respect—[Interruption.] The hon. while taking part in the Belfast city marathon a few Lady in particular, given that she is a Scottish National days ago? I think that the whole House will join me in party Member, will want to respect the rights of the conveying our deepest sympathies and condolences to devolved Assemblies. Criminal law is a devolved issue in his family and friends. Northern Ireland. I say again that there have been no prosecutions at all as regards the rape issue in the The implementation process for child tax credit is a 50 years since 1967 when section 5 was introduced, and devolved matter in Northern Ireland. To protect claimant that the outgoing Director of Public Prosecutions has confidentiality, the Department for Communities in said that it is highly unlikely that there will be any. Northern Ireland has established an exceptions team to handle any applications for benefit payments for a third Equality and Human Rights child under an exemption to the two-child tax credit cap on the ground of non-consensual conception. The 2. Stella Creasy (Walthamstow) (Lab/Co-op): What Department has advised that, to date, the team has steps she is taking to support equality and human rights received no applications for an exemption on the ground in Northern Ireland; and if she will make a statement. of non-consensual conception. [905143] Danielle Rowley: Many women say that they are put off applying for this abhorrent exception under the rape The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Karen clause due to shame, trauma or perhaps fear. In Northern Bradley): This Government have a strong track record Ireland, women and those who assist with and endorse of supporting equality and human rights across the their applications, such as GPs, social workers and whole United Kingdom. midwives, face an extra hurdle, as they risk prosecution under section 5 of the Criminal Law Act (Northern Stella Creasy: “Cruel, inhumane and degrading”—not Ireland) 1967 for failing to report details of a crime. my words, but those of the United Nations on our What is the Secretary of State doing to support women treatment of women in Northern Ireland. Given the in Northern Ireland and protect them from that risk? absence of an Assembly, why does the Secretary of State choose to recognise the importance of a free vote Mr Vara: The hon. Lady raises a sensitive issue, in this place on same-sex marriage while refusing to which is being treated sensitively by all concerned. She extend the same protection to Northern Irish women’s will appreciate that criminal law is a devolved matter, fundamental right not to be forced to continue an but I can assure her that in the 50 years since 1967, unwanted pregnancy? when section 5 was introduced, no prosecutions for failing to report a rape case took place. The outgoing Karen Bradley: The hon. Lady knows that abortion is Director of Public Prosecutions has said that it would a very sensitive issue, and there are strongly held views be highly unlikely that one would happen in the future. on both sides of the debate. It is also a devolved matter, 661 Oral Answers 9 MAY 2018 Oral Answers 662 as she has said. She refers to the fact that I am on record and duty, and I respect that, which is why I want to as saying that a vote on same-sex marriage, among ensure that we deal with the situation. The status quo is Government Members, is a matter of conscience, and not good enough. The only people getting knocks on that is also true for abortion. But it would not be right the door from the police to tell them that they face for the UK Government to undermine the devolution inquests are the military. We need to change that, which settlement by trying to force on the people of Northern is why we need to issue a consultation. Ireland something that we in Westminster think is right; the people of Northern Ireland have to make that Sir Jeffrey M. Donaldson (Lagan Valley) (DUP): decision. When veterans living in England, Wales or Scotland apply for a post with Border Force, their former service Dr Andrew Murrison (South West Wiltshire) (Con): in the armed forces is taken into account, but that is not On equality, does my right hon. Friend agree that there so for veterans in Northern Ireland. That is based on is a real danger that the Stormont House agreement advice given to the Home Office by the so-called Equality institutions might act against the interests of servicemen Commission for Northern Ireland, which claims that and former members of the security services, and give equality laws in Northern Ireland do not undermine the an unfair advantage to former paramilitaries? In particular, military covenant. Well, it has been caught out well on does she share my concern that, without checks and that one. balances, those institutions might create a form of historical revisionism that casts members of the security services Karen Bradley: I am well aware of the matter and in an unfairly poor light? have taken it up with the Home Office. I hope to be able to report back shortly. Karen Bradley: My hon. Friend, who of course was instrumental in the Stormont House talks that led to Inward Investment the agreement on those institutions, will know that the current status quo involves a disproportionate emphasis 3. James Cleverly (Braintree) (Con): What progress on the actions of the military and law-enforcement has been made on attracting inward investment to bodies during the troubles, and really very little emphasis Northern Ireland. [905144] on the actions of paramilitary terrorists, who were responsible for 90% of the killings. That is why I want a The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Northern consultation on the institutions so that they are set up Ireland (Mr Shailesh Vara): With support from this in a way that addresses the concerns that my hon. Government, Northern Ireland stands among the UK’s Friend raises and deals with the issues of the past. most popular inward investment destinations. We have increased the block grant in real terms, proposed a city Lady Hermon (North Down) (Ind): With regard to deal for Belfast, with more to follow, and created business equality, there appears to be one law for Members of opportunities through our industrial strategy.Ultimately, the Legislative Assembly and another for everyone else. however, political stability is key to economic growth, What excuses will the Secretary of State offer today for and that means a restored Executive delivering for the continuing to allow MLAs to receive their full salary Northern Ireland economy. That remains my overriding when they have not been doing their full job for over a priority. year? James Cleverly: I am sure that my hon. Friend and Karen Bradley: I am offering no excuses; I intend to the rest of the House welcome the news of Bombardier’s act on this issue. As the hon. Lady will know, I legislated investment in Northern Ireland. My constituency is on MLA pay at the beginning of the year to stop the dominated by small and medium-sized enterprises, and £500 increase.