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The subject on hand needs no introduction. The conversation following was conductednot too long ago at the 'House' (in the quietof Arlington, Virginia), and was transcribedfor your reading pleasure.Thank You. SoldOut-Howwas the labelorigi- nally inspiredto form? Ian- We were in the Teen Idles from 1979-80.We'd playedfor a year, did some recording, and wanted to put out a record. It became clear that we weren't going to get on a label, so we decidedtostart our own labeland put out our own rccords.A friend of ours, Skip Groff from Yester- dayandToday Records, saidhe'd help us. We'd been playing all this time and we'd never taken anymoney out, ever. We always savedour money, and we used that moneyto putout thefirst rec- ord and start it. By the time the TeenIdles thing cameout, they'd broken up and both Minor Threat and SOA were together. Henry put up his own moneyandput out the SOA,single, and we distrib- uted that. When the money came backfrom those.we Dutit all into the Minor Threat single, which sold a lot, and then we put it into the nextone, and soon. We were totally in debt for years. SoldOut- How areyou motiyated to do eachconsecutive release? Ian- First of all, Dischordis not a labelproper. It's a creativeoutlet for a community here in Wash- ington. We don't sign any bands or whatever. Everybody who is on the label are all just friends, and actually now increasingly younger brothers and sistersof other people we've released. Basically,it's all part ofa family. There's a responsibilitywe feel to continueputting out our friend's music; music that we feel is im- portant and music that we like. It's a documentationthat we rc- ally believe in. There's a lot of really important stuff happening here. There is a lot of important stuff happening everywhere, but to promote a band or whatever, SoldOut- Soyou takeone thing at everywhere didn't document it then we'd undermine our own a time? just and we did. That's why peoPle reputation. The label comesfirst Ian- Yeah, and we kept put- find ii so important with what's on thatlevol, andifthe bandwant ting stuff out. Jeff and I argue a going on here. or need a different kind of finish, lot, not argue anymore, but we SotdOut-You can't denythatit's then move on. They do and that's discussit alot. We both havea lot a fun thing to do. grear. of different ideasof what we want Ian- I don't know if it's fun. It's Soldout- Does it happenon a to do with the label, and some- nice to have records and it's nice good note? where between the two we were tohaveacompany I guess,but no, Ian- Always,I've neverhada bad able to hash out a fairly cohesive it's not alwaysfun. It sucksa lot falling out with a band. manner. I think that Jeff is cer- of the time. There's an over- Soldout- Screamreassured that tainly the one responsible for the whelming amount of work, Par- everything worked out mutually. really high quality, and for the ticularly for apersonthat wants to Ian- Grcat. Dag Nasty seemto control and good look of the rcc- be in a band. For me, I've always think, and I keep readingthis in ords. wantedto be in a band andthat's interviews, that it was terrible. It Soldout- So he deals with the what I want to do, andthe label is wasn't terrible at all, it was totally artistic end of the product? of a side thing. friendly. Brian called and said, Ian- Yeah, and I usually record sort "We're Not so much fun, but gonna be on Giant." I the bands. We sharethe business SoldOut- "Great, satisfying. said, man." I knew that sideofit. Dischordhas three other Ian- It's great.Idon'tregretit. If was what they wantedand I was people working for us that are as fact, god no. I'm totally very very happyfor them. Idon'tcare, much a part of Dischord as any- happy with what I've done. It's I'd rather have a band on another body else. There's Amy Picker- not a greatjob,it sucksto be self- label than to be dissatisfiedwith ing, Cynthia Connolly, and Jenn employed sometimes. Taxes and this one. It's not worth it to me. Thomas. They are a pan of Dis- all of that stuff is really a head- That's also why we don't sign chord. It's not a matterofhelping ache. When you're someonelike bands,we don't wantto getinto a out, they are defrnitely a pan of us, we're very disorganized...I businessarrangement. Every one Dischord.Without themwewould mean,we're prctty organized,but ofthesebands are friends ofmine, not be able to keep up at all. Jeff we have very weird organization. andwe don't sign themorenterin does not have much time at all. When you deal with friends and businessagreements with them He's got his own company,Pe- farnily, it does get a little tense becausewe don't want to havea destrian Press,making his own now and then. It's not all just businessrelation ship with them. postersand T-shins. He's rcally businesseloments. Also, when It's no fun and it's no good. We busy. I'm in a band and I'm not you're like us, you're not trying want to keep friends. We pay going to be able to do mail order. to be a standmdbusiness. The themand we're honestwith them. I don't havethe time to do it, I've recordworld is completelybusi- We don't screw people at all. got enough trouble trying to keep ness, and when trying to go at it SoldOut- The bandsdo getpaid? up with other things. Jennis here from our point of view, which is Ian- Oh yeah,everyone gets paid. almost every day working on sort of anti-business,it causes We pay more than most record stores.We move a lot of shit and enough problems and a lot of compaliespay. Wepay honestly it takes a lot of time, and without headaches. We're taken advan- and we actually pay them. We themwe'd be nowhere.Cynthia tage of a lot. don't fucking bullshit them. and Amy usually take tums, but SoldOut- Have anybands/people SoldOut- Obviouslythe label has Cynthia also helps out with art. you've dealt with ever want you grown. Is tlere a plateauor level Mostpeopleseem to think we're a to go beyond your limits or capa- at which you'd like it to stay,or storc, and that we have like a little bilities? are you content with its current warehouse. Ian- Yes. course? SoldOut- What is your situation Soldout- How wouldyouresolve Ian- I don't mal<eplans like that. with SouthernStudios? the situation? We never planned to be here, we Ian- Southern Studios are a Ian- We tell them that we do what neverplannedtobeanything more record...what are they exactly? we do. Dischord is a popular than the first single when we frst Well, in 1983 we put out Out of label, and part of the rcasonwe're put itout. Well actually,whenwe Slsp, about 8500 of them. This a popular label is becausewe've put the first singleout, we did ac- guy, John Loder (from Southern got a reputation. The reputation tually have a dream of putting out Studios), flew to New York to is basedon what we do and what a seriesof singlesof local bands, come and see us (Minor Threat) thelabel stands for. If wewereto which we did. This just cameafter play,because he'dheardofus. He go against what we standfor just that and where we a.retoday... worked with Crass and was in- volved with Crass and all of that. the headquaners,and they basi- one,we didn't want to enterin any So, he came to see us and we cally work for us. We sendthem bad businessrelationshios. The talked to him, andhe wanted to put the tapes and the artwork, and we worstkind of "You rclationshipyoucan therecordout. We did it with him say, putittogerher." I do all haveis a long distanceone. When and it was a good arrangement. of the recording here and every- you havepeople you don't know, Basically, we have total afiistic thing, and Jeff does the artwork and you put out their record,they control and everything, he just andall ofthe mechanics.We send haveto wonderabout you. With pressesand distributes them. Eve- them the negatives and master people who we know here, we rything we've put out, with the exception of a few records, is printed in France. Soldout- Cheaoer? I:rn- lt'scneaper,and we get them over in suchbulk that we can still sell it cheaperthan most Ameri- can labels. It's weird,but it just worksout because we ship them in suchhigh quantity. The last time I went to the airport to pick up our shipment, there were 3400 rec- ords. It all works itself out. With- out him we'd be nowhere. That was a point in time where we reacheda point wherewe couldbe on a plateau,and where we had to makea decision. The big decision we made was to eitler continue putting out rccords,or...wherever we went,we couldn't getcrcdit at plants, so we had to put out one record, wait for the monevto come back in, and thenput ou; rhenext recordand noteven have repressed the previous record.