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Reddy (viii) Demand for further amendment of the Wakf Act, 18-19 1954 and in the meantime, the universally accepted provisions of the 1983 Act inforced immediately- Shri Syed Shahabuddin Constitution (Sixty~Second Amendment) Bill 19-198 and Representation of the People (Amendment) Bill Motions to consider- Shri B. Shankaranand 19-28 Shri C. Madhav Reddi 28-40 Shri V.N. Gadgil 40-51 Shri Somnath Chatterjee 52-68 Shri Veerendra Patil 68-17 Shri P. R. Oas Munsi 77-88 PiOf. Madhu Dandavate 88-109 Shri Mukul Wasnik 109-114 Shri Balkavi Bairagi 114-120 Shri Dinesh Goswami 120-132 Shri H.K. L Bhagat 132-144 Shri Sharad Oighe 144-149 Choudhary Khurshid Ahmed 149-153 Prof. P.J. Kurien 153-157 (iii) COLUMNS Shri Surendra Pal Singh 157-162 Shri S~uddin Soz ' 162-166 Shri Pratap Bhanu Sharma 166-168 I, Shri Somnath Rath 169-171 Shri G.M. BanatwaUa 172-176 Shri Jagannath Choudhary 176-179 Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 179-181 Dr. A.K. Patel 181-183 Shrimati Patel Ramaben Ramjibhai Mavani 183-185 Kumari Mamata Banerjee 185-190 Shri N.V.N. Somu 190-194 Dr. G.S. Rajhans 194-198 LOK SABHA DEBATES LOKSABHA (Intenuptions) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing doing. Gov- Wednesday, Dscsmber 14, 1988/Agrahay- ernment is not competent to comment upon ana 23, 1910 (Saka) the !=lCtions of the Election Commission. ( Interruptions) The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock MR. SPEAKER: Never before have I [MR. SPEAKER in the Chait1 done it nor will I do it now. Until and uf\less you change the Constitution and bring the [English1 Election Commission under your purview we cannot comment upon its actions. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): Sir, the Election Commission has an":. ( Interruptions) nounced the date of elections to three State Assemblies but... (Interruptior.s) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing doing. MA. SPEAKER: Nothing doing. Irrele- { Interruptions) vant. Nothing goes on record. MR. SPEAKER: Nothing doing. Not (Interruptions) * allowed, MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acharia. you know (Interruptions) * that I cannot comment upon the actions and decisions of the Election Commission which [ Translat~] is an autonomous body. Nor can they do it. You have to change the Constitution. I can- SHR~ CKlRANJI tAt. SHARMA (Kar- not allow. Nothing goes on record. nal);. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in Haryana, Congress wo~ "'~heateo. ~y Whfs.... ( Inte"uptionst [E"g1i;~ MR. SPEAKER: Again the samething. f cannot break the rules. Nothing goes on MR: SP~KEA: fdo not"know. record. SHRI BASUOEB ACHARIA: let the GOVE'rnment clarify. (Interruptions) * MR. SPEAKER: Government cannot PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- comment upon that. Government has no japur): Sir. will you allow us to seek a authority to CO'I'nrtlent upon that. fhat is what .j~, clarification on what you have said? my understanding, . 3 DECEMBER 14, 1988 4 ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Why Government? • is the Election Commission .•• PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, I am not raising the question of Election (Interruptions) • Commission. I want to know about the. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. I have not MR. SPEAKER: I do not know. I cannot allowed anybody. allow that. That is an aspersIOn on the EIec· tlon Commission. ( Interruptions)- ( Interrupt!ons) [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I am on firm ground. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK Under no conditions. Untl' and unless you (Sonepat): Atrocities are being committed change the Statute, I am not going to allow on poor. They are being lathicharged and put this against the Election Commission. No, I behind bars. The honour of women is not am not going to allow. safe there. (Interruptions) ( Interruptionst [English] [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I have already given my ruling on this subject. I am not concerned SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK what is the reaction of the Government on (Sonepat): Mr. Speaker, Sir, in Haryana, this, or what is your readion. I can only say poor people are being beaten up by lathls that unless and until you change the Statute, The Government there has given three dif- I Will not bring under discussion the judge- ferent statements within three days. A case ment or the orders of Election Commission. under section 354 was registered, buL. Nothing doing. No. (Interruptions) (Interruptions)- [English] MR. SPEAKER: Tomorrow, you will MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Achana why are hang this thing around my neck. I am not you trying to make me break the rules? I am going to get myseH hanged. nor-going to break those rules. (lnterruptions)- (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I do not know about it. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: What is Why should I know? It is the Election the reaction of the Government? Commission. Govemment has nothing to do with it. MR. SPEAKER: I am not concerned with that. I am only concerned with this that (Interruptions) • the Election Commission is an autonomous body and its decisions cannot be discussed KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE here. (Jadavpur): A Harijan girl is involved. The House should take cognisance of this. The PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: listen Home Minister should make a statement. 10 us. Sir, we are not raising the question of EJection Commission. We want to know the MR. SPEAKER: • do not know .• cannot attitude anckespons& of th&Governmel\l interfere••• -Not recorded. 5 Papers Laid AGRAHAYANA 23,1910 (SAKA) Railways Bill 6 (Interruptions)· tiles Export Promotion Council. Bombay, for the year 1987-88. MR. SPEAKER: Ask the Election [Placed in Ubrary, See No. 70671 Commission. Why are you asking the wrong 88] person? Go to the Efection Commission and ask them, and not me here. Notification Under Indian Railways Act ( Interruptions)· SHRI MAHABIR PRASAD: I beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Notification No. S.O. 3325 (Hindi and Engli~ versions) 11.06 hrs. published in Gazette of India ,tated the 5th November. 1988 maki~ further amend- PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE ment to Notification No. TCIII/3036/581N0ti- fication, dated the 28th August. 1958 regard- [Eng/ish] ing Uability of Railways for loss of luggage from Cloak Room, issued under section 47 Annual Report of Indian Institute of of the Indian Railways Act, 1890. [Placed in Astrophysics, Bangalore, for 1987-88 Library. See No. LT -7068/881 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 11.07 hrs. MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- OGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RAILWAY CONVENTION COMMITTEE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRON- [Eng/ish] ICS AND SPACES (SHRI K.R. NARAY- ANAN): I beg to lay on the Table a copy of TweUth Report the Annual Report (Hindi and English ver- sions) of the 1987-88 along with Audited PROF NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR Accounts. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- (Hamirpur): I beg to present the Twelfth 7066/88] Report (English and Hindi versions) of the Railway Convention Committee on Action Annual Report and Review on the Taken by Government on the recommenda- Working of Synthetic and Rayon tions contained in their Ninth Report (Eighth Text,i1es Export Promotion Council, Lok Sabha) on 'On-going Railway Line Proj- Bombay for 1987-88 ects', THE QEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 11.07 F(1,2) hrs. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MA- HABIR PRASAD): On behaH of Shri Rafique RAILWAYS BILL Alam, I beg to lay on the Table:- Extension of time for Presentation of (1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report Report of Joint Committ.. (Hindi and English versions) of the Synthetic and Rayon Tex- SHRI R.S. SPARROW (JuRunder): tiles Export Promotion Council, beg to move the following: Boml?ay. for the year 1987-88 along with Audited Accounts. "That this House do further extel1d upto the first day of the Budget Session, (it) A copy of \tle Review (Hindi 1989. the time for presentation of the and English versions) by the report of the Joint Committee on the Bill Government on the working of to consolidate and amend the law relat- the SYf!!!!!ic and Rayon Tex- ing to Railways.· 7 B.AC. Report DECEMBER 14, 1988 B.AC. Report 8 MR. SPEAKER: The question is: any rules.