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Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security

Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

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RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 16TH MARCH, 2021

CONTENTS PAGE (S) APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY Organisation 2700 - Ministry of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology (Resumed Debate)...... 1-8

Organisation 1000- Ministry of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security...... 9-21 (Resumed Debate)...... 30-39

Organisation 2000 - Ministry of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism...... 40-60

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 22-29 QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE...... 30 Tuesday 16th March, 2021 ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY Committee of Supply (Resumed Debate)

Tuesday 16th March, 2021 Se sengwe se se botlhokwa thata se o buileng Tona, ke kgang ya gore Ministry of Investment, Trade and THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. Industry (MITI) is ready to help us. Our researchers (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) and innovators are scientists mostly, who are used to working in the laboratories (labs). Gantsi o fitlhela ba P R A Y E R S na le challenge ya gore dilo tsa bone tse ba di dirang in those labs, ga di ba tswele mosola, mme involving * * * * your ministry will definitely help us. Gangwe le gape MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! ke tshwara dipuisanyo le researchers and innovators Good morning Honourable Members, we start our across the country, regardless gore ba tswa kwa Ministry business with Committee of Supply. of Tertiary kana kae. As long as it is a researcher and innovator, ke na le go nna le webinars le bone, re ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE buisana. Sengwe se ba neng ba se bua, ba lela ka sone, ke tsone dikgang tsa gore our prototypes re a di dira, (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) mme mathata ke gore re di baya fela, ga re itse gore re APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, ka di isa kae go tswa foo. 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) Re leboge gore mme jaanong Citizen Entrepreneurial ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF Development Agency (CEDA) ke eo e a bua gore it is TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, ready to help them. Ke sengwe se ke tsayang gore ba SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ba reeditseng ba reeditse, mme in our next lekgotla, re ya go ba bolelela ka kgang ya go nna jaana gore ba (Resumed Debate) itsolopanye go ya kwa pele. Se se tlaa dira gore Batswana ba nne le kgatlhego mo kgannyeng e ya innovation. Tota MR CHAIRPERSON (MR SKELEMANI): As we kana kgang ya to invent selo se bo se sa go berekele, o have indicated Honourable Members, this organisation fitlhela e le matsapa fela. Ke tsaya gore ke sengwe se re is left with 30 minutes. Therefore, I am going to call se lebogelang fela thata. upon the Honourable Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology to respond to the The Training Levy; yes indeed re dira a review mo debate. Training Levy ya rona go kgona go bona gore mo dinakong tseno e ka re berekela botoka jang. Ke sengwe MINISTER OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, se le mo puong ya me ke buileng ka sone gore we are RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY reviewing it, review is ongoing. Ka jalo, ke sengwe se re (DR LETSHOLATHEBE): Thank you very much Mr yang go se lebelela, re bo re bona gore re ka se tokafatsa Chairperson. I really appreciate the opportunity. jang.

Let me first start by thanking my colleagues who have Honourable Regoeng; Molepolole Institute of Health contributed to our ministry’s Committee of Supply, and Sciences (IHS), indeed what you say is true. Ke ne ke those who did not have time to contribute. Ke a itse gore ile koo last year and ke ne ka utlwa dikgang tsa go nna ke mathata a nako, le ka bo le eleditse go bua. jalo. Gongwe without shifting the blame, the IHS just came to my ministry last year. We are still looking on the Mr Chairperson, ke simolole pele ka go leba kakgelo best way to improve the service gone kwa IHS. We are ya ntlha. Ke tlaa leka go di tsaya ka bongwe ka bongwe even just about to finishle structure that represents IHS mme fa nako e sa nkema sentle, ke tlaa di soboka. kwa ministry wa rona. Ke go tshepise gore we are going HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… to work on that, re bona gore courses tse di tlhaelang re ka di tofakatsa jang. DR LETSHOLATHEBE: Honourable Serame, ke tlaa simolola ka wena. Ke go lebogele gore o lemoga Tota we need to get value for our money. Mo o fitlhelang gore ministry wa rona o dira sengwe mme ke se re se e le gore re agile classrooms di le dintsintsi le diholo go lebogelang. O bua gape ka kgang ya collaboration, mme di sa dirisiwe, ke sone se se re busetsang kwa ke sengwe se se ka re thusang go ya kwa pele fa re ka morago. Ke tsaya gore 37 per cent yo a neng a buiwa ke bereka mmogo. Tona wa tsa Madi, ke tsone dilo tsa go nna jalo gore di a

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agiwa mme di bo di sa dirisiwe. Ke go solofetsa gore we one kana tse pedi, ba tla kwa Pusong ba re re kopa gore are going to look at that, re bone gore re ka thusa batho you pick up ngwanake o mo tseye o mo ise kwa pele. Go ba go nna jalo jang. ne ga dumalanwa gore ga go sa tlhola go diragala jalo. Ka go nna, we are still following gone moo. Ke motho Sengwe se ke se itumeletseng o se bua ka baoki le people yo ke ratang go sala molao morago. Fa gotwe ga gona who are promoting IHS generally, ke go bua ka kgang pick up, ga gona pick up. This is exactly what we are e ke tlholang ke bua ka yone ya to export our labour. doing. Indeed, if we can train more, we can still send some people outside ba ya go bereka, ba re tlisetsa madi a re a I have heard cases tse e leng gore some people … tlhokang go tswa koo; Pounds le Euros. Ka go rialo, we (Inaudible)… tota motho a saletswe ke semester se le are going to work on that, discuss with our institutions sengwefela, but molao ke molao because if you can tse di teng, universities that offer Degree mo nursing, divert it gangwefela, ba bangwe ba tlile go sala kwa re bone gore can they not double up rate e ba ntshang morago ba re nnyaa, o diretse yole ka gore o a mo itse. students tsa bone gore re kgone to cover lecturers tse Ka go rialo, kgang ya pick up, we are looking at it. If we di tlhaelang. Ke tsaya gore ke sengwe Mopalamente re need to change, you give us money for that. tlaa bua, ke nna ke go rerisa gore re tsamaya fa kae. We really have to do that. Gompieno ga re na madi a go ka tsaya bana ra ba thusa. I really understand batsadi ba le bantsintsi are struggling, Education and Training Providers (ETPs) rankings; ba bangwe ba ne ba tsenya bana ba bone sekole mme indeed ga go ka ke ga kgobokanwa fela, go tshwanetse COVID e amile dikompone. There is really nothing I to be classified. Now that we are at this point ya to can do for now. Ke tsaya gore gongwe re tlaa e lebaleba, classify our educational training, ke sengwe se e leng re tlaa nna re kopa madi mme re e lebaleba. Gongwe gore Botswana Qualifications Authority (BQA) is re baakanya melao gore re bone gore re ka e baakanya working on it. It is working on the findings, even what a jang. Ke sengwe se e leng gore re a se lebelela. university is. Tota re a itse gore people will just say this is a university. Re tshwanetse go dumalana le rona gore Non-compliant institutions Mr Chairperson; re dirisa fa gotwe university, go tewa institution e e nang le batho BQA gore re nne le institutions that are qualified gore di ba ba rutegileng ka level e e ntseng jang. E tsaya bana kgone go ruta bana ba rona, segolobogolo bana that we ba le kae, e dirisa softwares tse di ntseng jang. Kana sponsor through the Department of Tertiary Education malatsi a ga re sa tlhole re kgatlhiwa ke buildings fela, Financing (DTEF). Re lebelela gore the first password re dirisa ditlhaeletsanyo go ruta bana. All those things. pele ga re sponsor ngwana e bo e le gore institution ya Ba ba berekelang mo go yone and they are involving go nna jalo a bo e le accredited by BQA. Ka go rialo, the other education training providers gore re se ka ra that is the one-way e re dirang gore re se ka ra tloga tloga re nna le bothata jo e leng gore fa yo mongwe a ra isa bana ba ya go shankodisiwa kwa dikoleng tse di tsaya, a bo a ya go pagama fa godimo ga building a re ke senang boikarabelo. dira university. Re bo re bona gore mme fa e le gore ke Sengwe se o buileng ka ga sone Mopalamente ke university, ke e e tlaa re tlisetsang maduo a re a batlang. requirement of sponsorship accredited by BQA; that is Ke se re berekang mo go sone. what I was just saying gone jaana gore re lebelela BQA, ke yone e e re thusang gore re kgone go bona gore bana Self-sponsored students gore ke eng re sa lebelele go ba rona ba isiwa kwa go tshwanetseng teng. thusa batsadi ba ba thusitseng bana golo gongwe, jaanong re bo re ba thusa go ya kwa pele. There is also Sengwe se re se dirang Mr Chairperson se Mopalamente something which I believe and will also say gore batsadi a buang ka sone ke kgang ya gore kwa DTEF go ka tswa ba tshwanetse go thusa Goromente mo dikgannyeng go na le sengwe se se sa dirweng sentle koo, Goromente tsa dituelo tsa bana. Batsadi ba ba dirang jalo ke a ba o latlhegelwa ke madi a mantsintsi. Yes, we understand. leboga. Kgang e o buang ka ga yone e re e bitsang re re This Parliament has warned me several times and told pick up, go nnile le bothata in the previous Parliament me gore I must do something ka kgang ya DTEF. We go bo go tliwa ka molao. Go lebega e le gore bontsi jwa have done something. Re dirile kgang ya digitalisation batho ba ba ikgonang le ba e leng gore ga ba a kgona go to reduce human interference fa go tla kwa processes bona points for Goromente to sponsor them, ba ba isa tsa rona tsa kwa DTEF. Se re se dirang gompieno se kwa dikoleng. E ka tswa e le mo Botswana kana kwa re solofelang gore re ya go se simolola… this ke gone ntle, e bo e felela e le gore batho bao after semester se le e simologang in two months or so. We are going to

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digitalise, ngwana o ya to apply a le kwa a leng teng. kgone go kgobokanya dikgang tsa research di nne golo We have sat down and sort all processes tse re yang go le gongwe. Fa o di beile golo go le gongwefela ke go di dirisa. Ngwana o tlaabo a tsena mo system. Fela gone o ka kgonang go bona gore the little thebe e re e fa a tsenya Identity Document (ID) number ya gagwe dirisang mo research e ka kgona go thusa research go e tlaabo e tsamaya all the way, e tsenya the age and yeng kwa pele. Research ke sengwe se se turang fela everything. Ke se re neng re se dira re akanyetsa ngwana thata. gore a se ka a tloga a nna le bothata jwa go tlhola a ntse mo laptop kana phone di mo jela data. What we The biggest challenge e re nang le yone ke gore the do is that we are going to digitalise. Bana ba tsile to private sector, you know it is particularly gore ba apply ka process e e ntseng jalo and go tsile go dira batla profit most of the time. Go felela e le gore at the gore go se ka ga nna le kgang ya gore semangmang o beginning re santse re le kwa tlase mo research. O ntiretse favour kana ga a ntirela favour. Se se tlaa kgona fitlhela jaanong ba nna bonyanyana go tsena matsogo. go golola babereki ba ke ba ratang thata ba kwa DTEF That is why one o bona re ikemetse ka dinao re kopa ba ba nnang ba nna le go tsogelwa ke mathata a gore from other funds and other things jaaka ke ne ke bolela gongwe ga ba dire dilo sentle. mo pegong ya me gore re dire gore re bone madi. Seo se ka tokafatsa kgang ya research. Ke tsaya gore se gape se ya go thusa bothata jo o fitlhelang bana ba strike gantsintsi. Bontsi jwa bana ba Sengwe se e leng gore re leka go se dira ke gone to strike ka gore allowance ga e tsene ka nako, e le gore improve. Re lebelele gore re ka dira jang gore re re dilo di dirwa manual, registers di tsewa kwa di tsewang improve the number of students ba ba yang for Masters teng, e tla e le boxes di le mo difaeleng, se se bo tsala and Doctor of Philosophy (PhD). Indeed, we do not gore sometimes file e a latlhega kana e a reng. Therefore, sponsor Masters and PhD for now, but se re se dirang this digitalising, ngwana fa a register at the university ke gore re batla methale e mengwe e re ka kgonang to e a reng o ikwadisitse mo go yone, automatically go ya sponsor batho ba PhD and Masters. go supa kwa DTEF gore the student is fully registered therefore pay his or her allowance. Se se tlaa re direla Kgang nngwe e ke e tleng ke e bue ke ya Top Achievers. tiro motlhofo. It is time to ask ourselves gore do we still really need to sponsor Top Achievers from after Form 5 or should Gape ke tsene ka e gore se ya go re thusa gape le mo we move them after first Degree? Fa re ka sutisetsa kgannyeng ya ba ba sa duelang. Lona ba le ka tswang Top Achievers to first Degree, go tlaabo go raya gore le le fa le sa duela le ba bangwe ba ba reeditseng, we motho yo a pasitseng yo a neng a dira Degree ya gagwe are going to follow up using that. We are updating our ya Chemistry fa a tsere 2:1 kana First Class, we must manual data into the Student Loan Management System sponsor up to Masters and PhD. That is the only way we (SLMS), gore o kgone go itse gore mang a le kwa kae can improve the number of research tse re di dirang. Re ga a duela, o kolota bokae, so that we can follow up and sa dire research jaaka go tlhola go dirwa malatsi ano re then try to reduce mathata a re nang le one a madi. tlhola re nna le bo 32 publications. No, we need cutting- Dr Honourable Tshabang; indeed research is lagging edge research. Re tlhokana le go dira research e e tlaa behind. You will agree with me Honourable Dr gore tokafatsang matshelo a batho. Re dira research e e leng kgang e ya research does not come cheap. Fa e sa tle gore somebody at home a le kwa Thamasanga, o itse cheap jalo, ke sone se se dirang gore fa gongwe re bo gore research e mo diretse selo motlhofo. O ntse a lema re saletse kwa morago compared to other countries. I ka bokete mme research e ne ya dira gore a dire sengwe think we spend even less than 0.5 per cent of our Gross se a ka se dirisang gore a leme botoka. Ke tsaya gore ke Domestic Product (GDP) on research. E bile o ipotsa sengwe se e leng gore we are going to work on. gore does it really go to research ka gore e phatlaletse le maphata a otlhe. Ba bangwe madi a tlaabo a ya… with Kgang ya tracer studies; indeed we have advised our due respect gotwe a ye go dira research, a ya go felela a institutions to do that. Ke sone fela le se ba ka se dirang sa dire research, go felela go dirwa variation, a dira dilo gore ba kgone to review their curriculum. The only tse dingwe tse e seng tsone, a ya go reka ditafole kana way to review our curriculum is to know how market dilo tse e leng gore directly they do not affect research. responds to your students gore a students tsa gago di Ke tsaya gore ke sengwe that we are working on that siame kana jang. Ke tsaya gore ke sengwe se e leng gore and indeed this Parliament will help us to see gore re we are working on it.

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Public and Private Education and Training Providers Indeed Honourable Segokgo, institutions should (ETPs); madi a a fiwang institutions tsa go nna jalo. generate money through research. Tota ke kgang ya Let me clarify that public institutions like bo University lee le koko gore go tla eng pele. Sometimes to make of Botswana and Botswana International University of money from research you have to put somewhere money Science and Technology (BIUST) ba fiwa se gotweng on research, gore ba bangwe ba simolole go bona gore subvention; madi a ba a fiwang at the beginning of indeed kwa Botswana research e ka dirwa jaana, ya financial year. That money ke one a ba a fiwang.Private reng. So ka go rialo, re tlaa simolola go leka tota to institutions survive ka go duelela school fees. Ka jalo, ba them, le yone the private sector, le fa go le dingalo tota public ba fiwa subvention ba bo ba boa ba fiwa school to attract them, but we will try our all means gore re ba fees. Go na le pharologanyo; private ETPs school fees, kgone go nna teng. I want to agree with you Honourable Member se kwa Materials science is part of all … it is one of its biggest godimo. School fees sa teng se kwa godimo go nale sa important components of it. Fourth Industrial Revolutions public. We are working on reviewing on how we are (4IR) to do, playing around with your materials tse di funding this educational training providers tsa public. leng teng, o dira sengwe le sengwe se o batlang go se We are reviewing gore maybe is not the time gore re dira gore se ka go berekela. O kgona to change strength dire gongwe buleladitswe, re dire gore gongwe people of the material, or whatever you want to change. Ke should come, go out, ba ye go ipatela baithuti ba bone, sengwe se e leng gore indeed we are pushing on that. ba kgone go duela school fees sa market price, re sa Kwa Botswana Institute for Technology Research and be neele subventions. Ke dingwe tse re di beileng mo Innovation (BITRI) re na le some materials science e tafoleng, re a di review Honourable Member. Ke tsaya e lebaganeng le kgang ya materials science. Indeed we gore ke dingwe tse e leng gore fa re ka kgona go fetsa advise that re ka bereka le ba ministry o o maleba o e ka tsone, re tlaa bona gore go iwa kae. Tseo di ka thusa leng gore was suggested gore re bereke le bone, mme re fela thata gore kgang gongwe ya difference in madi a a tlaa leka go dira jalo go yeng kwa pele. duelwang a school fees a e fetoga. Honourable Molale, it is very true that research O buile ka sengwe gape sa building ya kwa Central generates money if it is done well; this is true. Fa Business District (CBD). Indeed, it was like that. Go research e dirwa fela sentle, it can generate wealth fela na le building that we were supposed to move to as the e ntsi. That is why I always advocate gore one of the way Ministry of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and we can improve our economy is when we spend money Technology but ga re a ka ra ya teng. E rile re tshwanetse on research. Ka jalo, ke sengwe se re ka itirelang ka gore re ye teng ra utlwa gore go na le ditumalano tse e sone. leng gore ga di ka ke tsa berekela Puso sentle. Ra bona gore Puso e ya go felela e jelwa madi ntsoma fela re You talked about a lot of projects we can do mo tsenye mo konterakeng e teleletelele. E ne ya re o sena lefatsheng la rona gore re kgone go ya kwa pele. The go nna o botsa ka potso e last year if you remember in fertilisers, dikgang tse di tshwanang le dikonotere tse o Parliament, we have talked about and we went to find neng o bua ka tsone, it is doable, instead of just taking out about that. We stopped that gore a re emiseng ka everything one size fits all. Re ye go tsaya selo se se gore tumalano jaanong o kare ga se yone e re neng re dirisiwang kwa mafatsheng a a tsididi re bo re tla go solofetse gore e tlaa nna teng. I am not shying away from se dirisa mo, se bo se sa re berekele sentle. Le sone this. We made a mistake e go neng ga dirwa agreement sekonotere for example, o tsaya sekonotere that was made to work mo temperatures that range from bo five ya go nna jalo and we accept the mistake and re tlaa dira to 15 Degrees Celsius o bo o ya go dira tsela e e yang gore go se ka ga tlhola go diragala kgang ya go nna jalo. kwa Patayamatebele, e temperature ya teng e leng bo 35-40 Degrees Celsius, ka moso se ngarogile, ga se Sengwe sa gore ETPs are hiring foreigners; indeed ke bereke sentle, ditsela tsa rona di felela o kare ga di na sengwe se e leng gore tota ga re na much control re le boleng. Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology. Re sponsor bana. Se re se batlang ke motho yo o rutang Indeed research has done well, we have worked on what e le yo o nang le qualification ya BQA. Felafela gore o works for us best. Re ka tsaya material o re bonang gore tswa kwa kae kana o rileng, ga re na gone. Fela re tlaa o re berekela botoka, ra dirisa one. Let me appreciate nna re ntse re berekisanya le ba Labour gore re bone you, you came up with very important suggestions tse o gore re thusana jang. yang go di tsaya, and we are going to do that.

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Like I said, we have meetings gangwe le gape with DR LETSHOLATHEBE: Thank you. Like I said, re ba researchers across the country, le invigilators re ba ntsi ba re batlang go dira golo mo, we are not stopping gakolola ka to patent. Gore kgang e o fitlhelang o dira anybody to do, whether once a day. Interest ya rona selo o bo o itumela fela gore ke dirile selo sa go nna jaaka ke bua, re ne re batla those who can take part in jaana, o a go fitlhela yo mongwe a se tsere kwa India, the process ya the building up of the components ya kana golo gongwe, a bo a re he discovered that. Ka go koloi. Ke utlwaletse ya kwa Mogoditshane, ga ke ise ke rialo ke re, we encourage them, but it is not taking time, ye kwa go bone unfortunately, but there could be others ba ya go se dirisa e le sengwe. Fa o bona sengwe o tsaya ba ba dirang jalo. Le wena fela Motlotlegi Rre Mmolotsi gore se botlhokwa, try to patent it gore ope a se ka a se kwa Francistown, fa o akanya gore you can start up, you tsaya. Tsone bo sekhokho ba rona, bo thobega jalo, if can do that. Ya rona e re batlang go e dira, ke mo e leng you do not do that, other people are going to do it. E gore we are taking part at the early stage ya go dira tlile gore nako nngwe fa o tsamaya mo Oxford Street koloi eo. Re setse re etetse batho ba Harness, ba body kwa London, o bo o bona go kwadilwe gotwe ‘Thobega building, chassis, battery, and we found that there are Clinic’ and you are going to pay a lot of pounds for so many people ba ba dirang dilo tse dintsintsi mono. that. Ke sengwe se e leng gore we are encouraging our researchers to do that. Not only that Honourable Saleshando, we went up to Dr Gobotswang; very valuable points, I really appreciate Maun, we found that go na le batho ba ba dirang boats honourable. Yes we promised to create jobs from tse re lemogileng gore one of the disadvantages tsa teng research, and we are going to do that. That is exactly di tsosa modumo, and this could do our electric car; we why kgang e e tshwanang le ya electric car re sa phutha can use that same motor to run the boat, and di tlaabo matsogo a rona re re electric car is not part of us, ke will run smoothly down the rivers tse di leng ka kwa ya Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry (MITI). Maun. Se se ka thusa gore re kgone go fokotsa modumo We went in and realised that there is an opportunity wa dilo tse. We are talking at an advanced stage le batho there that our researchers and innovators can take up ba ba dirang boats tsa rona. They are exporting those advantage for the value chain. Ba ka tsaya golo gongwe boats, mme ke tsaya gore le rona re ya go tsena at that ba bona gore ba bangwe ba ka dira se, ba bangwe se. We part. This is how we are going to work with anybody yo are in the process of that. Honourable Serame o ne o rile o teng. ke bua ka yone electric car, maybe it is now time to talk We did research across other ministries gore, jaaka ke about it. We are going to make sure that all of us take sa tswa go bua, we are going to even improve on how we part, ba ba batlang go tsaya part mo go yone. Ba bangwe are working with other ministries. Re setse re simolotse, ba dire se, ba bangwe se; ke sone se se ka re thamelang fa re ntse re tsena sessions tsa Batswana discussing le ditiro. We are in the process. Right now re ne re buisanya ba bangwe, re a bona gore we could have others ba ba le dikompone tse di dirang dikoloi tsa metlakase, di le tswanang le the Geological institute and their elements, dintsintsi thata. Mathata a bontsi jwa tsone e ne e le tse ba batlang to dump parts fela mono, rona re bo re felela we have contributed where we can. Fa o tsena kwa go re kopanya parts tseo. We did not want that. Re batla bo …(inaudible)… sekhokho se ke neng ke bua ka sone, ba ba tlaa re letlelelang go kgona gore e re fa re rekile ke bone bao. We are working with others so that we can parts mo go bone, let us say re rekile chassis ya koloi, fa move forward. re bona gore go na le a chassis company mo Gaborone kana mo Botswana, re bo re felela re re Nnyaa, next The involvement of Technical Colleges; indeed, that is time do not deliver the chassis, we will find somebody; the other new way of doing things. Le yone electric car battery or, body building ba ba kgonang go aga cables, ya rona, what we did, we asked for a curriculum e re e ba ba tshwanang ba ba dirang cables mo Gaborone. This dirisang kwa Technical Colleges tsa rona gore bana ba is what we have already done. kgone go ithuta, ba dirise courses tsa Technical Colleges go tla go baakanya tsone dikoloi tsa rona. Ga re batle MR MMOLOTSI: On a point of clarification. Thank you Mr Speaker. Minister, gongwe fa o le mo go yone go tla go dira koloi e e tsamayang ka motlakase e bo e ya electric car, go ne go ka re thusa go itse gore, kwa tsamaya e wa parts mme e sa kgone go baakanngwa. Re Mogoditshane yone ke efe, tse o buang ka ga tsone ke batla gore re nne le Technical and Vocational Education dife? Le gore Mogoditshane Project, is the one that we and Training (TVET) ba ba teng, ready to come and fix are pursuing; or that one is a completely different one? that car. Ke tsaya gore...

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Greeff wants MR GREEFF: Clarification. Ke a leboga Honourable clarification. Minister. Ke botse fela ka gore re bua ka knowledge based-economy, mme fa o lebelela our technical DR LETSHOLATHEBE: Nako ga e a nkema sentle colleges, ga di na qualified lecturers. How are you going Honourable Chair, ke tlaa boela kwa go ene. to improve that seemo? Le sa vocational training gore o Honourable Manake, indeed you said a lot, Human ya go se tokafatsa ka tsela e e ntseng jang mongwame? Resource Development Council (HRDC), kgang ya DR LETSHOLATHEBE: Thank you very much gore a mme re santse re lebelela go bona gore a mme honourable. We are looking at that. Fa gongwe TVET e re dira courses tse di maleba. HRDC time and again na le go nna le mathatanyana a to coordinate. Last week, informs us, e lebelela market gore o ya ntlha efe re bo re I was presenting a policy to the Cabinet, e e yang go kgona go tsaya tshwetso. Le rona fela when sponsoring lebagana le TVET. We are working on that to see how bana, re tsaya tshwetso re lebeletse bone gore they we can improve TVET le training ya staff. Ke dumalana recommended ba reng. le wena gore tota there is a bit of shortage in that area Tracer studies and Labour Market Observatory (LMO) but we are going to work on that. is also assisting in that regard, gore a mme tota re na le Quickly going to Honourable Hikuama, education batho ba le kae. reviews conducted to ensure curriculum, yes we You said a lot about research, the good thing is that you are saying education e botlhokwa thata. I cannot were saying research on Ministry of Agriculture, which remember the words you used very well, but I think o I really liked because it shows that we cannot work rile the purpose of education is to fight poverty and in silos. Re tshwanetse re bereke mmogo. Most of the unemployment. …(Inaudible)… kgang ya teng, re le researches tse o neng o bua ka tsone gore ditlhatshana bantsi gone fa re tswa mo malwapeng a masetlha, but di a reng, this is the research we want. Go raya gore ke education has really helped us to get our new jobs to dilo tse di dirwang kwa Agric Research Centre. Ke na improve our lives. Ke tsaya gore ke sengwe se e leng le keletso ya gore ke ka bo ke ka itse different to that, gore we are always reviewing our curriculum gore re but fela le wena o ka makala o utlwa gotwe Motlotlegi tswelele. You are a teacher, you know that curriculum Dr Letsholathebe o ile kwa Agric Research Centre go is not static, it changes in time. Re nna re tswelela, buisanya le researchers ba dira jaana le jaana, o ka tsaya gore ke tsamaiwa ke badimo gore ke ile go dira eng kwa re lebelela gore re ka tokafatsa fa kae gore re ye kwa ministry wa gago ke tsenelela mo ditirong tsa gago. Ke pele, re kgone go tokafatsa our curriculum. Ka go rialo, tsaya gore ke sengwe se e leng gore Minister, re tswelele we are hoping that we are going to get the best as we re berekisane gore dilo go yeng kwa pele, re kgone gore are going forward. We have improved le the way… we re thuse researchers tsa rona. Fela ke ba leboge ka gore were launching nna le Honourable Molao maloba… le fa ke dira research, indaba ga ke batle di tsene, o (Inaudible)… Education Policy. Gore re kgone go bona fitlhela ba le bantsintsi le bone ba agriculture, ba na le gore education e dirwa sentle, ga go felele e le gore go supa gore tota indeed ba na le kgatlhego. Ke tsaya mongwe o ikgogela kwa fela, o tsaya laptop a bo a re gore gongwe re tlaa e bua go ya kwa pele. nnyaa, ke dira online teaching, a bo a ruta bana, a bo e le gore kamoso o utlwa gotwe ngwana o na le Degree Honourable Brooks, yes, we are going to come to ya Physics ka online teaching, o ipotsa gore practicals Kgalagadi, ka kgang ya indigenous knowledge. I believe o di dirile kae. gore ke gone kwa e leng gore we can excel coming Ka nako e sa nkema sentle, with your permission Mr to indigenous knowledge. Fa o simolola o re o ya go Chairperson, I therefore move that the sum of Four dira innovation go dira best laptop, you cannot easily Billion, Six Hundred and Two Million, Six Hundred beat Dell, HP, but akanya fela fa re ne re ka dira best and Sixty-Two Thousand, One Hundred and Thirty Pula research and best innovation, re dirisa our indigenous (P4,602,662,130) for the Recurrent Budget, be approved knowledge. Nobody can beat us in that field, so ke tsaya and stand part of the Schedule of the 2021/2022 gore ke sengwe se honourable, we are going to work on Appropriation Bill (No. 1 of 2020) for Head 2700; that. Mongwe o ne a kopa clarification, just a minute and that the sum of Two Hundred and Thirty-Three Honourable Chairperson. Million, Six Hundred and Ninety-Seven Thousand, Two

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Hundred and Twenty-Five Pula (P233,697,225) for Head 2700 in the Development Fund Estimates be approved and form part of those Estimates. I thank you very much Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, we are going to vote. Check that you are always connected and that you can be seen on the screen.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, there is something wrong with my camera, that is Morwaeng.

MR CHAIRPERSON: I will call your name, if you can talk, that is okay.

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse √ Honourable Balopi √ Honourable Boko Honourable Brooks √ Honourable Billy √ Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow √ Honourable Gare √ Honourable Dr Gobotswang √ Honourable Greeff √ Honourable Hikuama √ Honourable Kablay √ Honourable Kapinga Honourable Kekgonegile Honourable Keorapetse √ Honourable Kereng Honourable Kgafela √ Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape √ Honourable Lesedi √ Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe √ Honourable Letsholo Honourable Leuwe √ Honourable Lucas √ Honourable Majaga √ Honourable Makwinja √ Honourable Manake √ Honourable Mangwegape-Healy √ Honourable Mathoothe √

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Honourable Dr Matsheka Honourable Mmolotsi √ Honourable Mmusi √ Honourable Moabi √ Honourable Moagi √ Honourable Moatlhodi Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi Honourable Molale √ Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi √ Honourable Monnakgotla √ Honourable Morwaeng √ Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane √ Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Mzwinila √ Honourable Nkawana Honourable Pule √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi √ Honourable Reatile √ Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando √ Honourable Segokgo √ Honourable Serame √ Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite √ Honourable Dr Tshabang √ Honourable Tshere √ His Honour the Vice President Honourable Tsogwane √

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Boko ga a bereke kwano kana.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le wena Healy ga o a araba, ga o na nako le dilo tsa tertiary.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Laughter!)… Ke rile aye.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga re a mo utlwa.

…Silence…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members the result of your voting, the Ayes 52, the Noes nothing, absent 12. The Ayes have it.

Question put and agreed to.

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ORGANISATION 1000- MINISTRY (i) Botho Park at the Botho University Campus, OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY (ii) Feune being Airport Junction Mall, SECURITY (iii) Bank of Botswana,

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, note (iv) Okavango Diamond Trading Company, that 2 hours 25 minutes have been allocated to this Head, and I shall call upon the Honourable Minister to (v) Primetime Proper Holdings at Sebele Mall, reply to the debate at 17:50 hours and the question will (vi) Thobo Energy at Francistown be put at 15… I think we need to adjust these hours. It cannot be tomorrow, it has to be today, 2 hours 25 (vii) Diamond Trading Company Botswana (DTCB). minutes allocated. I therefore, call upon the Honourable Minister Lefoko Moagi to present his budget. (viii) Tlou Energy was also issued with an IPP license for local power generation under the Government’s MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN Coal Bed Methane (CBM) power generation TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR programme. MOAGI): Mma ke leboge Motlotlegi Modulasetilo wa Komiti e ya Supply. Ke dumedise batlotlegi botlhe mo In addition to driving towards our goal for self- Ntlong e, ke ba dumedise kwa gaMalete, ke dumedise sufficiency in local power generation through increased Batswana ka kakaretso. E re pele ga ke tsena mafokong participation of Independent Power Producers (IPPs), ke re, ke lebe kwa komiting ka gore re ne re tshwanetse the Authority continues to facilitate private investment go kopana, mme ra fitlhela e le gore go na le tshwarego in power generation. To date, the Authority has issued nngwe ya Khuduthamaga. Ke supe gore e ne e se ka licences to two (2) IPPs (Sese Power and ENRC) for go tsuolola pitso ya bone, ke dumela gore bommotlana power export. ba ne ba ba neela mafoko. Ke dirile report ke e mme e Botswana Energy regulatory Authority (BERA) tshotse di le dintsinyana, jaanong ke bone gore ke nne continues to monitor compliance by the industry to the ke di nankole jaana le jaana gore ke tle ke kgone ke regulatory requirements, whereby 140 filling stations wele mo nakong ya metsotso e le masome a mabedi e were inspected and 59 were found to be compliant. ke e neilweng. Before the establishment of BERA, compliance to Mr Chairperson, I am here today to present to this standards was mostly voluntary, however BERA made Honourable House, the Ministry of Mineral Resources, them mandatory. Most of the non-compliance was Green Technology and Energy Security’s budget for the around lack of adherence to environmental protection, 2021/2022 financial year, as well as, give an account lack of leak monitoring wells, oil separators at retail of the One billion, Seven Hundred and Sixty-Two sites and lack of understanding of safety precautions by Million, Two Hundred and Eighty-Two Thousand, Nine petrol attendants. In a quest to enhance compliance and Hundred and Ninety-Six Pula (P1,762,282,996) that was competitiveness in this industry, a star rating programme allocated to my ministry to use for both the Recurrent for the petroleum service stations has been initiated. and Development Budgets in the current financial year Mr Chairperson, effective management of fuel prices 2020/2021. Before I do that, I would like also give an and margins are a critical factor for the sustainability overview of the progress of policy and legislative issues of the petroleum subsector. My ministry through BERA of the two sectors of Energy and Minerals under my continues to review the petroleum prices on a monthly custody, so that colleagues can make informed decisions basis to ensure that prices are fair, competitive and on my request. affordable, whilst petroleum margins are reviewed on an annual basis in order to provide a fair return for the POLICY INITIATIVES AND REVIEWS financial sustainability of the industry. Energy Sector In the process of migrating to cost reflective electricity Mr Chairperson, we are looking at Botswana Energy tariffs, my ministry has, through BERA, reviewed the Regulatory Authority (BERA) having licenced the Botswana Power Corporation (BPC) electricity tariffs following Solar Photovoltaic Plants producing over for the Financial Year 2020/2021 and a 22 per cent tariff 100kVA; increase was awarded to BPC.Despite this increase,

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electricity tariffs are still not cost reflective hence The Diamond Cutting and Semiprecious Stones will be necessitating review on an annual basis. re-gazetted for tabling in the July 2021 Parliamentary Session. On the energy side as well, the Energy Policy was tabled before this House in September 2020 for First Reading. The Mines and Minerals Act Amendment Bill is at We remain hopeful that the current sitting of Parliament drafting stage and the Bill is being finalised for Cabinet will approve that Energy Policy. Further, the Petroleum approval, also to be presented at the July Session of Bill as well has been suspended pending finalisation of Parliament. the Petroleum regulations and we hope to progress this Bill in this sitting as well. MINING UPDATE AND EMPLOYMENT CREATION We have started implementation of the Rooftop Solar Mr Chairperson, obviously 2020 was a devastating year programme into the grid. The programme guidelines but have started to the signs of recovery; copper prices were developed for end users who can generate their increased from US$2.57/lb in 2019 to US$3.52 (37 own electricity and sell excess to BPC. The development per cent) increase by the end of 2020 so is gold from includes applicable rules, regulations, standards, tariffs US$1270 to US$1524 (20 per cent) increase. as well as a review of the implementation processes being the metering, interconnection, vending and billing. This We have started seeing an encouragement from investors Programme will run for three years, with a system-wide granting Maatla Energy Resources a mining licence aggregate capacity of 10MW in the first 12 months. for the development of a coal mine in Mmamabula We started by opening up to commercial, industrial coalfields. We are also seeing other companies investing and domestic BPC customers on the 30th November in the increase of the life of Mine like Karowe diamond 2020 and so far 60 applications have been received underground Mine, Morupule coal open cast extension between 1st of December 2020 and 15th February 2021 and Jwaneng Mine post Cut 9 studies focused on consisting of 50 domestic and 10 business applications. underground mining. There is also a positive consumer The evaluation of the submissions is ongoing. demand for diamond jewellery since the beginning of the holiday season. This will help our diamond sales An Integrated Resource Plan for Electricity Generation going forward especially in markets around Europe and (IRP) was developed and approved to establish a Asia. robust electricity generation build Programme from 2020 until 2040. This was done over twenty four In terms of the Debswana Diamond Company 17.1 months collaboration period with the International million carats were sold in 2020. Now the sales have Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The implementation gone up and we are encouraged that this is a positive is envisaged to add approximately 1,540MW of new trend coming out of the diamond industry, same as generation capacity by 2040. Lucara Diamond Company.

Mineral Sector Orapa Mine Cut 3 Project at feasibility stage and preparatory works are to start in 2023. Employment The Minerals Policy was also put before Parliament in across the mines is very encouraging with over 98 to September 2020, First Reading, and we remain hopeful 99 per cent being locals around the various mines. This it will come through this sitting as well. also goes for the Morupule Coal mine which is also To modernise and to align to mineral legislation and to undergoing expansion. align it to policy aspirations, we are reviewing further Minergy Coal project in the Kweneng District at three pieces of legislation being: Medie has also started production and the production (i) Mines and Minerals Act Amendment Bill; is ramping up. We have also commissioned the coal processing plant. So this will boost the coal. They are (ii) Diamond Cutting and Polishing Act Amendment also shortlisted for supply of coal to ESKOM for their Bill; electricity generation.

(iii) Precious and Semi-Precious Stones Protection Botswana Ash, same increase in production tonnages Amendment Bill. with very good 98.5 per cent citizen employment.They

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are looking at producing further potash and fertiliser that result in power cuts in some part of the country. and they are hoping to complete their feasibility study The backlog includes replacing rotten poles, servitude in September 2021. maintenance and uprating of distribution infrastructure (transformers, overhead conductors and underground There is Mupane Gold Mine and Khoemacau currently cables). This work is ongoing and it will be completed also producing. The only mine that is on care and in 2021. It has been a three-phased approach. maintenance, except for Phikwe is Ghaghoo Mine. Mowana Mine is currently under judicial management. Biofuels

SECURITY OF POWER SUPPLY Research continues to be done through collaboration Power Generation with other departments; Department of Agricultural Research (DAR) and University of Botswana (UB). Currently about 60 per cent of the national electricity This is to produce a local biofuel in the industry. The demand is met at Morupule A and B and the balance is potential feedstock are indigenous plants, as well as imports. We are reducing very much power supply from other available feedstock like animal fat, cooking oil et diesel generation as in Orapa and Matshelagabedi so as cetera. The study will be completed in May 2022 and to manage the costs. will have to go commercial with encouraging results. Morupule B is currently undergoing comprehensive SECURITY OF PETROLEUM SUPPLY defects remedial exercise and it is due to be completed in 2023. Unit 4 which was started first is at 94 per cent Petroleum Products complete. Green technology – This is an area potential to grow the Botswana Oil Limited (BOL) continues to look for economy and diversify it creating employment. They are alternative routes so that we can augment where we currently undergoing solar photovoltaic (PV) projects get our major source of petroleum products. Over 30 which should be completed in 2022. The awards are million litres have been sourced through Namibia and about to be done. It already constitute 17 per cent of the Mozambique. In fact, it is 30 million and 14 million total generation mix of the current 769 megawatts. respectively.

Coal Bed Methane (CBM) also ongoing. The have In terms of strategic storage, we are currently at 15 days found the service of a Transaction Advisor who assists and the key maintenance project for storage will be in the negotiation of the Power Purchase Agreements. increased to 90 days coverage after the completion of the This will be completed in April 2021 which will lead Tshele Hills Storage and other storages in Francistown to financial close and ultimately notice to proceed to and Ghanzi. We encourage the private sector to do other construction. areas, for example; the Kazungula or the Maun route Electricity Transmission and Distribution Infrastructure through Public Private Partnership (PPP) projects. The – Recently completed the North West transmission line Transaction Advisor is also at an advanced stage to assist which will also assist the generation of power in the in this regard, so that this project can been expedited. North West District also assisting the mines in those areas. May I know the time Mr Chairperson, so that I could rush to the next issues? Electricity Generation MR CHAIRPERSON: Five minutes. Rural electrification is at 39 per cent. 44 villages, which were left, have been connected, only seven are left MR MOAGI: Five minutes, okay. I was going to talk out. There is the 71 network extensions, which will be about diamond beneficiation; it is there on the report. completed by April 2021. Issues around the Okavango Diamond Company and Distribution Refurbishment and Reinforcement their sales processes, the automation, negotiations with Debswana agreements, where we are currently and There is a programme to clear the maintenance backlog billed to be concluded during 2021, largely affected by accommodated over the years and network overloads travel restrictions in 2020.

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BCL Liquidation MR SALESHANDO (MAUN WEST): Ke a go leboga Modulasetilo. Ke simolole ka go itumelela se Tona wa A preferred bidder has been identified and I will explain tsa Kgotetso a se buileng ka kgang ya solar energy. Mo more when I respond to the debate from the Members nakong e e fetileng, kgang e e nnile kgotlhang fa gare but they are about to start their due diligence. ga diphathi tsa kganetso mo Palamenteng le phathi e e I have a health status on the six of the State-Owned busang, ka gore e ne e nna sengwe se go neng gotwe re Entities (SOEs) under my ministry. That is Botswana bua dinaledi tse di ka se kang tsa kgonagala. Le nako e Energy Regulatory Authority (BERA), Botswana go neng go na le mathata a power shortages, re leka go Power Corporation (BPC), Botswana Oil, Botswana ntsha megopolo, tse tsa solar energy, ba ba tlileng pele Geoscience Institute, Mineral Development Company ga gago ba phathi ya Domkrag, ba ne ba gana. Gongwe and Okavango Diamond Company. I believe since dinako tse dingwe re le akgole fa le simolola go amogela Honourable Members have access to the report, please se se buiwang ke diphathi tsa kganetso le fa go tla thari, refer to the report so that I can then get to the Budget. go le go ntsi go setse go re fetile. Ke batla gore dilo dingwe Tona, o di ele tlhoko. Dipalo Mr Chairperson, as aforementioned, allow me to now tsa dikago tse di dirisang solar power kana dikgwebo, account for the funds I was given. Obviously, 71 per di lebega di ka oketsega. Ke kopa gore ka gore malatsi a cent has been spent and this is only due to some of the Goromente ga a ikagele dikago tse dintsi, maphata a le funds not yet been drawn out by the Liquidator but they mantsi a Puso a hirisa diofisi tse ba di dirisang, a e nne will be drawn out over the period because they go out ntlha nngwe e e reng Goromente fa a ya go batla diofisi, in trenches. Development Budget largely used at 97 per lephata la gago le bue gore mme fa e le gore o tlaabo cent and it will be exhausted by the end of the financial o dirisa solar, ke gone gongwe re ka go kgatlhegelang year. Very good revenue collection surpassing what was re le Goromente go tsena mo dikagong tsa gago. E le budgeted, which is an encouragement towards these go leka go rotloetsa gore go fokotsege bokete jwa ba year’s estimates that we are looking at. ba dirisang motlakase o o fetlhiwang ka magala kwa Morupule. Development Budget Estimates Kgang e ke batlang go tsena mo go yone e le ya bobedi, Mr Chairperson, they are largely due to Botswana e le yone e tona thata Tona, ke goletse kwa toropong Power Corporation as they were the major one at 56 per ya Selebi Phikwe, e e neng e na le moepo wa BCL. Ke cent, then the Power Generation and Distribution at 19 badile thata ka toropo nngwe e e bidiwang Kimberley per cent, the Ministry Development Budget at 13 per kwa Afrika Borwa. Kimberley e kile a bo e le toropo e cent, Green Technology being the fourth largest with 7 e tumileng thata ka ditswammung, gompieno boswa jo per cent and finally 3 per cent for the Mineral Resources Kimberley e nang le jone, ke lehuti, it is just a hole. Ke Exploration Programme. lehuti fela le le tona. Ga go na sepe se se setseng kwa Kimberley, se se ka supang gore khumo e kile ya bo e I now Mr Chairperson, wish to go down to my budget le fa. Toropo ya Selebi Phikwe se e setseng ka sone, proposal where by now, the presentation of the ke tunnels ka fa tlase ga lefatshe, tse di ba tliseditseng 2021/2022 Recurrent/Development Budgets concludes mathata a a tshwanang le a bo thoromo ya lefatshe. O from these figures. I now request to move that the ne o ka akanya gore Selebi Phikwe le Kimberley, ba ka sum of Three Hundred and Fifty-One Million, Seven bo ba na le dikompone tse ditona tse e leng gore meepo Hundred and Sixty-Two Thousand, Five Hundred and e mesha e e bulwang, e tabogela teng go ya go reka tse Forty Pula (P351,762,540) in the Consolidated Fund ba di tlhokang. Ga go a nna jalo. Ke belaela gore re mo be approved and stand as part of the Schedule of the tseleng ya Selebi Phikwe, Kimberley le kwa mafelong a Appropriation (2021/22) Bill 2021; and that the sum of, a tshwanang le Toteng kwa kgaolong ya Maun. Eight Hundred and Eighty-Eight Million, Nine Hundred Re na le mine o o epilweng kwa Maun jaaka o tlhalositse, and Thirty Thousand, Nine Hundred and Seventy- mme ga go na sepe se o ka se supang mo metseng wa Nine Pula (P888, 930, 979. 00) in the Development Toteng le Maun mo kgaolong ya Ngami gore go na le Fund Estimates be approved and stand part of those mine o motona o o simololang. Re tshwana fela le ba Estimates in accordance with the amendments made to Kimberly, nako nngwe re tlaabo re setse ka mosima o the Estimate Book. I thank you Mr Chairperson. motona.

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Go na le tse dintsi tse di dirisiwang ke mines. Lephata Go tlhabisa ditlhong gore mo nakong ya gompieno la gago le ka bo le e baya gore le ya go bona gore ke e bo e santse e le gore re santse re re re batla go bua fa kae fa go ka patelediwang dikompone tse gore di le bo maitseanape gore a Botswana le ene o ka tsena rotloetse dikompone tse di gaufi le fa ba direlang teng. mo synthetic diamonds. O tlaa gakologelwa gore fa ke Consumables tse di tshwanang le tse di dirisiwang mo tsibogela Budget Speech, ke mo ke neng ke tsaya gore meepong re a itse gore di ya go tswa kwa mafatsheng re ka bo re tsene ka lebelo le le kwa godimo. Ba re a tshwana le South Africa le Australia. Golo mo go tshwaraganeng le bone ba De Beers ba setse ba na le tshwanetse go go tshwenye Tona, o ipeele seelo gore o madirelo a matona kwa mafatsheng a mangwe where batla dilo tsotlhe tse di dirisiwang ke mine wa Toteng… they do not have strategic interest. Ga ba bolo go akola mine o mongwe o a agiwa ka kwa Ghanzi, o eletsa diteemane tsa rona kwano ba bo ba ya go bula dikompone go bona bokete jwa dilo tse ba di dirisang di tswa mo tse di tona tsa synthetic diamonds kwa mafatsheng a lefatsheng la Botswana di le kae kana o batla go ba sele. Golo mo go supa gore fa ba re leba jaana, ba bona tlogelela boswa jwa lehuti le le tshwanang le le le kwa bo Tinto; banna le basadi ba ba robetseng ka ditlhako, Kimberly? Se se kgobang marapo ke gore le dilo tse ba bona dikopa, ga ba re bone re le batho ba e leng gore di nnyennyane tse re tsayang gore di ka bo di setse di ba ka tshwaraganela bokamoso jwa diteemane tse di rekiwa mo dikgaolong tseo, ga di rekiwe koo le fa e le itiretsweng le rona. Golo moo must be a wake-up call, gore di tswa mo Botswana. Ke tlaa go fa sekai Tona; go tshwanetse go go tshikhinya. Letswalo la gago le mongwe le mongwe o a itse gore tlhwatlhwa ya beef per go tshwenye gore ga tsamaya jang gore ke sa bolo go kilogramme (kg) e kwa tlase kwa Ngami go nale jaaka e nna mo lenyalong le De Beers, mosadi yo ke sa bolo ntse mo the southern part of the country. Boradibutšhara go huhula le ene, e re a bona mahudiso a mašha a bo a ba kwa kgaolong ya Maun, ga go na ope yo o nang le ntlogela mo Botswana a ya go a dira go sele a sena sepe seabe sa go bona go rekisetsa mine wa Toteng nama le se ke se batlang ka kwano? Se se tshwanetse se go e e jewang ke babereki ba bone. Go setse go dirilwe tshwenye. ditumalano ka nama; e gogwa ka diteraka go tswa mo Gaborone e isiwa kwa mme re na le struggling farmers, Kgang ya bofelo Tona ke ya diamond cutting and ba ba sa boneng ditlhwatlhwa tse di itumedisang. Se se polishing. Go phatsimisa diteemane ke gone kwa go tshwanetse se go tshwenye o le Tona gore ke eng se se nang le ditiro tse dintsi. Go epa go dirisiwa machines. ka dirwang gore batho ba kgaolong ele le bone ba bone Re a epa mo Botswana. Gone moo go dirisa machines. sengwe se se ka ba solegelang mosola mo nakong ya Ka Sekgoa ba a tle ba re it is capital-intensive. Ga re gompieno. dire ditiro tse dintsi. Re tsenya madi a mantsi mme ga re dire ditiro tse dintsi. Le tswa kgakala le bolelelwa, mme Tona, ke batla gore kgang ya boraro e nne ya gore tota mo le le bonya mo kgannyeng e ya ditiro mo diteemaneng. nakong ya gompieno go bo go santse go na le sephiri se Ditiro di kwa go phatsimiseng diteemane; cutting se kanakana mo dikgannyeng tsa gore lona le De Beers and polishing. That is where the jobs are, but gore e dintlha kgolo tsa dipuisanyo tsa lona ke eng? Ke tsaya re gompieno with decades and decades of mining gore ke matlhabisa ditlhong, nako ya teng e fetile. A ko diamonds e bo e santse e le gore out of mo re go epang, o tlhalose fa o fetola gore go pala eng gore Botswana ke mantswe a le mararo mo go a le lesome a re kgonang e nne bontlha bongwe jwa Extractive Industries go a polish mono, re a phatsimisa mo lefatsheng la Transparency Initiative (EITI)? Re bangwe ba mafatshe Botswana. Mantswe a supa mo go a le lesome re a romela a a nang le ditswammung di le dintsi. Mafatshe a le kwa mafatsheng a mangwe a a senang diteemane gore mantsi a mo mosepeleng wa go bona gore ba dira jang ba ye go bulela bana ba bone diphatlha tsa ditiro. Ke gore se ba se dirang ba se direle mo pontsheng. Re ka bo matlhabisa ditlhong. Amogela fa o fetola puisano e gore gompieno re setse re itse gore tota gatwe dintlha kgolo go bo o na le target ya 80 per cent, e ke e amogelang ke eng, re solofele eng se sešha, e seng mo e leng gore gore ke yone e re eletsang gore e bo e le gone mo re rona mo Palamenteng o a ne o tewa gotwe ‘pitsa e santse ka go dirang mo lefatsheng la Botswana, go supa go e apeilwe, re tlaa le bona go fedile.’ Ga re bana Tona. palelwa ga Puso ya gompieno. Dinako tse dingwe ga re Ga se dinako tsa bo 1960 le 1970 mo nneng go nna mo le amogele gore fa re paletswe, a jaanong re thulanyeng Executive go raya gore le botlhale gongwe bo ka felela ditlhogo, re ntsheng megopolo ka gore ditiro tsa bana ka koo. Re tshwanetse ra nna le seabe re le Palamente ba Batswana di akolwa ke mafatshe a sele. Nako e tsile go itse gore gatwe go buisanwa eng, mo le rona re ka ya gore go nnwe fa fatshe fa go sena go amogelwa ntshang lefoko la rona gore ga re dumalane le eng. gore re lekile re paletswe, a ba bangwe ba ba nang le

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botlhale bongwe ba re thuse re le lefatshe la Botswana, Re nne le fuel farm gone koo, re tle re kgone re nne le ka gore ditiro tse di tswelang kwa ntle ga lefatshe la filling stations tse e tlaa nnang tsa Botswana. Gompieno Batswana di a boitshega. E seng fela mo diteemaneng, e ba le bantsi I am sure ga ba itse gore BP o emetse eng, leng mo ditswammung tse dingwe tsotlhe tse di teng mo BP yone e e neng e le fuel stations; o emetse British lefatsheng la Botswana. Petroleum. Building your own pipeline e go neela opportunity eo ya gore o nne le your own indigenous Ke tsaya gore fa e le gore ra re re batla go nna knowledge filling stations. based-economy, kana knowledge-based economy e raya o tsamaisa o gateletse ka technology, o ikgantsha ka If re reka fuel from the source re na le fa re e tlhotlhang gore o na le productivity mo mehameng e mentsi e e teng re sa e tlhotlhe in the sense e e ka tswang e le ya farologaneng. Go pala eng Tona gore re re Botswana refinement, re ka kgona gore fuel price e ye kwa tlase, jaanong e ya go nna yone capital ya lefatshe where production costs le tsone di ye kwa tlase mo lefatsheng diamonds are cut di bo di phatsimisiwa teng? Ditiro fa re lebeletse manufacturing le production, jaaka re tse dintsi le diteemane tse di tswang kwa mafatsheng a ntse re ipeela seelo sa gore we want to be an export-led mangwe, ga e ka ke ya nna tsa Botswana fela. Re ya go economy. We have to be competitive, and fuel is one of bua le ditsala tsa rona De Beers fa e le gore ke ditsala tsa those things tse di ka re thusang gore go nne jalo. boammaaruri gore re batla le diteemane tse di tswang kwa mafatsheng a mangwe to be cut and polished mo Ke buile maloba gore South Africa le yone e reka from Botswana ka gore re ba Fourth Industrial Revolution. Fa the source, ga e na kwa e tlhotlhang oil teng mme e na e le gore re ba knowledge-based economy re tshwanetse le 58 oil pipes. Zambia le Zimbabwe fela jalo ba e leng re ka bo re bolelela setšhaba dilo tse, jaanong ga re di gore ba landlocked, le rona as a country, we need to bue. Ga re di bue ka gore re a itse gore ka 2036 party think outside the box on this particular issue. Storage ya Domkrag e batla gore e bo e nna fa fatshe e re a re se le sengwefela ga ke dumalane le sone fela gore se direng vision e nngwe, re tlaa tla re baakanya ka 2050. sustainable Honourable Minister. Ga se nako ya go ineela mo go tsone tseo, a re beyeng Mr Chairperson, mo paragraph 38, it is very interesting targets tse re ka di kgonang mo nakong ya gompieno. because Tona o bua ka biofuels. Ka fa a e beileng ka Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. teng, o e beile go le go nnyennyane. Jaanong ke mo ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL tlhalosetse jalo gore this can be done at a very big scale DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS fa e ne e le gore there is a proper partnership le Ministry MANAKE): Dumelang Mr Chairperson. Batlotlegi wa Agriculture, go bo go ka nniwa fa fatshe ga buiwa, re lotlhe, ke a le dumedisa this afternoon. dirisa the Agro Zambezi gore re ntshe fuel e e bidiwang gotwe ethanol. Ethanol ke fuel e e tswang from the Mr Chairperson, mma ke simolole jalo ke lemoge sugar industry. Kwa mafatsheng a sele a tshwana le bo Tona ka his comprehensive Committee of Supply e re Brazil, bone ba dirisa sugar cane go dira ethanol eo. ithutileng go le gontsi le ka maphata otlhe a a ka fa tlase Kwa bo America le a mangwe jalojalo, ba dirisa sugar ga gagwe, which is a very good ka gore we appreciate beet, e e leng gore we have the capacity to produce it opportunities le fa a santseng a tlhaela teng gore re in the north. Ke raya gone kwa Chobe District through kgone go mo thusa gore a tokafatse lephata la gagwe. the Agro Zambezi. This ethanol jaaka ke setse ke bua, mo mafatsheng, is green energy. Go na le dikoloi tse Mr Chairperson, mma ke supe jalo gore le fa re di setseng di simolotse go e dirisa kwa mafatsheng a appreciate gore Botswana Energy Regulatory Authority tshwana le Brazil, United States of America le gone kwa (BERA) le Botswana Oil di a leka when it comes to Europe. Ga gotwe go ya go tla koloi e ntsha, go setse go fuel security, they should see beyond storage. Ke ya na le dikoloi tse di ntseng jalo. It is either e le hybrid, e go bua kgang e go fitlhelela Tona a tlhaloganya gore kopana le di fuel tse re di tlwaetseng tsa gompieno tsa as a country, ga re ka ke ra re storage sa 15 days se dipeterole, kana e tla e le yone ethanol fela e ntse jalo. sustainable. We cannot bank on importation re bo re re re tlaa nna re ntse re import 12 billion worth of fuel Jaanong ke re, the green technology kana green energy, on an annual basis. We really have to think outside the it will only be possible fa re ne re ka atumetsa Ministry box Mr Chairperson to leverage our relationships le bo o tshwana le wa Agriculture, o ke santseng ke dumela Namibia, re construct these fuel pipelines. E tswe from gore totatota to diversify economy ya this country, ke the sea e ye kwa Mamuno kana in the Ghanzi District. one o leng konokono. Fa re ka dira jalo and focus mo

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ethanol jaaka ke bua ya sugar beet kana ra bula matlho ya nna fela kwa bo Orapa le Jwaneng, think about the a rona ra tsosolosa the Agro Zambezi, re ya go nna a whole country. This vision ya bo Masedi Farms was the game changer in the Southern African Development best vision that Debswana came up with. Community (SADC) region le mo continent ya Africa. Jaanong ke supa jalo gore a re lebelele opportunity e Mr Chairperson, Debswana at that time as a gore re ka e tokafatsa jang gore re ye kwa pele. conglomerate that was in the making, did not only invest in the agricultural sector, it also invested in the tourism Mr Chairperson, paragraphs 12 le 26, di bua ka the sector. Gompieno re a lela ra re the second earner of mining industry. Ke appreciate jalo gore gatwe go na the GDP, it goes to batho ba e seng Batswana, e bile it le kgolo e ntle fa re lebeletse the Karowe Mine kana contributes koo. If we could have nurtured that thing, Lucara Botswana. It is attributed to gore ba dirisa Debswana could be owning most of the concessions, the latest diamond technologies to mine. Jaanong ke bana ba rona could be getting decent jobs and salaries, botse Tona gore, kwa Debswana re simolola leng go and the money could be here. dirisa technology e gore le rona re ntshe mantswe a a makimakima a? A a ka kgonang go busetsa lefatshe Jaanong ga go kgakala Honourable Minister gore o la rona, e bile gongwe re se mo mathateng jaaka boele to your board, and reinvest, le lebelele gore how Honourable Saleshando a ne a ntse a bua. When are we do we benchmark the Debswana model, ele ya bo Masedi adopting the new technologies Honourable Minister? Farms le bo eng into a conglomerate e e tlhabololang Le rona re nne competitive, re gaisane le bone bo Lucara Botswana e bile dipoelo tsa Debswana di felela mo ka go epa jalojalo. Botswana. P100 million if invested in the agricultural sector in the Pandamatenga, it will give you very good Go bua ka Debswana, le ke ntse ke reeditse Honourable returns. Saleshando, go tsositse lebadi le le gologolo Mr Mr Chairperson, jaaka ke setse ke tlhalositse, mma ke Chairperson. Ka 1998, ke ne ke bala Form 1, mme go tswe mo go e ka gore e nkutlwisa botlhoko ka gore tota ne go na le kompone that was owned by Debswana, e re ka bo re godile as an agricultural sector fa e ne e le bidiwa gotwe Masedi Farms. Masedi Farms was in the gore Debswana was a conglomerate e e focused. Chobe District, in the Pandamatenga. They owned about 3400 hectares. For the first time in Botswana, 1000 HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… hectares of cotton were produced in Pandamatenga by Debswana. You see gore back in 1998, Debswana had MS MANAKE: Ke a wetsa fela fa, o tlaa tla Mma a mandate and vision to diversify itself from the mining Makwinja a tsena ka e bile ke bua ka point nngwe ya industry, but it was cut short. That was a potential e gagwe. e leng gore gompieno re ka bo re sa batle shares in Mr Chairperson, mo paragraph 20, Honourable the diamonds that Honourable Saleshando is talking Minister o buile ka Medie Mine o o kwa Kweneng, o about. We could have developed the agricultural e leng gore gompieno o ama (affect) balemi ba rona sector and we would be a game changer. In 1998 Mr environmentally. Golo mo go ba busetsa kwa morago e Chairperson, Debswana through Masedi Farms, they bile ga go a nna sentle, ka yone environmental impact e were already talking about precision farming. They e leng gore dikoloi le chemicals di a dirisiwa mo tseleng had the best technologies in Pandamatenga. They had eo. Jaanong ke go kopa jalo Honourable Minister gore focused production. Ba ne ba lema mabele le cotton re tshwanetse re bereke mmogo, re tle re bone gore re e ke buang ka yone gompieno. A lot of people do not thusa jang those farmers ka gore tota interest ya rona know but we have the capacity to do that. Masedi ke ya go ntsha dijo. Re bone gore re ka ba thusa jang, Farms fa e ne e le teng, owned by Debswana kana e gongwe go ba ntsha fa ba leng teng go ba isa golo le conglomerate company, re ka bo re le kgakala Mr gongwe, mme stakeholder sa Medie le sone se le mo Chairperson. Debswana through the agricultural sector, teng. re ka bo re na le a focused production scheme jaaka ke setse ke tlhalositse, practical agricultural economists Mr Chairperson, it is about time to identify through and engineers tse e leng gore they direct gore the food Trade, and map the value chain ya soda ash. Go basket ya Botswana e ya kwa kae. Honourable Minister, lebelelwe gore we import dilo tse di dirilweng ka soda re tshwanetse gore gompieno re akanye ka Debswana ash, ka bokete jo bo kae mo Botswana. Ke dife tse di ka Today, Botswana Tomorrow. Re e bitse DTBT. E se ka diriwang mo Botswana, e bile ke dife tse re ka laletsang

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investors to invest mo go tsone. Re nna re e isa fela kwa segolobogolo sekoloto sa go reka motlakase o montsintsi South Africa to be processed koo, rona kwano re sa dire kwa South Africa. Gore re dire dilo tse Mr Chairperson, ditiro kana ra direla economy ya rona botoka. go tlhoka gore re dire dilo ka bonokopila, ka bofefo, re nne le procurement systems tse di siameng, tse e leng Botswana Geoscience Institute ke yone e e ka bong e gore kgabagare, di re neela se re se batlang. Ga re batle thusa, and define rural economy. Gompieno ra re re na procurement system e e re neelang bo Morupule B, jaaka le lime e Honourable Molale a letseng a bua ka yone. Re gompieno re na le Morupule B jaana. na le granite Mr Chairperson, mme ga go buiwe sepe ka yone gore how do we impact rural economy with Se ke ka se rapelang gompieno ke gore, go ya pele a re that? Publish your exploration findings, le gakolole baakanyeng ministry o le ka fa re dirang dilo ka teng. Batswana, especially in the rural areas, ba kgone to partner through the joint venture le investors tse le Ke tshwenngwa ke gore, re sale re bua ka solar; the 250 tlaabong le di tsaya kwa ntle, through dikoporase and megawatts ya Selebi Phikwe le Jwaneng. Re tshwanetse all those things. Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. ra bo re tsamaela gongwe dingwaga tse 10, re ntse re bua ka yone. Re na le tse 10 tse di grid connected kwa ASSISTANT MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, mafelong a a tshwanang Molepolole, Gantsi and all the TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR MOLEBATSI): Ke like. Le yone tender ya teng, e a ne e boa, e ntshiwa a go leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke lantlha ke bua, ga ke (cancelled), e boa, e ntshiwa. Go dira dilo ka tsela e e itse gore go fiwa nako e e kae. ntseng jalo, ga gona go re isa gope. Ga re na go fitlhelela dilo tse re di tlhokang, tse ministry o ka re thusang ka MR CHAIRPERSON: 10 minutes. tsone. Se ke ka se kopang mo go Minister ke gore, a MR MOLEBATSI: 10 minutes only? re dire dilo sentle. Fa ke re a re dire dilo sentle ke raya gore, kwa mafatsheng a mangwe tenders tse tsa solar MR CHAIRPERSON: Ee rra. ba bone gore ba dirise a programme e gotweng Scaling Solar ya World Bank, e seng go thulathula fela. Scaling MR MOLEBATSI: Ke simolole Mr Chairperson, ke Solar e a dirisiwa kwa Zambia, Senegal le Madagascar, leboge Tona wa Mineral Resources, Green Technology ke World Bank. World Bank e nna transaction advisor and Energy Security ka tiro e a dirang, le tsotlhe tse a mo projects tse. ikaelelang go di dira go ya kwa pele. Mr Chairperson, ke kopa gore mo pegong yame, ke tle ke leke gore… Le These projects are achieved, in two years e tlaabo e a nkutlwa Mr Chairperson? tsentse motlakase in the grid. Bona fela gore sale re bua ka Jwaneng le Selebi Phikwe leng. Re tsile go nna 10 MR CHAIRPERSON: Ee, ke a go bona. years re ntse re bua ka dilo tse di seyong. Se ke ka se MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a utlwala? kopang ke gore, a re tseneng mo mode wa gore re direng dilo fela sentle, re se ka gongwe ra dira dilo re tsaya MR CHAIRPERSON: Ee, ke a go bona e bile. short cuts. I do not know who is the transaction advisor MR MOLEBATSI: Nna ga ke ipone. on solar projects tse ke buang ka tsone tse, because we are not going anywhere ka tsone. Le tsone tse 10 tse MR CHAIRPERSON: Tswelela. kamoso o tlaabo o utlwa gotwe e a boelela gape. Ke sone se re kopang gore, a ko re batleng the transaction MR MOLEBATSI: Okay. Mr Chairperson, se ke se advisor, Botswana Power Corporation (BPC) ga e na buang ke gore, ministry o o tswa kgakala o na le bothata, capacity to do some of these things on their own. Ga ke gantsi o sa dire ditiro tse o reng o tlaa di dira. Golo se BPC fela, re a itse gore power corporations such as mo go utlwisa botlhoko. Go na le dilo tse dingwe tse di Eskom and others around the region, ga di na capacity saletseng kwa morago. Go na le bo Tshele Hills ba re ka ya go dira jalo. Let us go for something se re tlaa dirang bong re sale re ba dirile bogologolo. Go na projects tsa dilo sentle. solar tse e leng gore by now, re ka bo re sa tlhoke go reka motlakase o montsintsi kwa South Africa, ka gore mo Procurement; fa procurement e sa dirwe sentle go na lefatsheng ka bophara, globally, re na le dioura (hours) le bo corruption mo teng, re felela re na le projects tse tse dintsi tsa letsatsi go gaisa mafatshe a mangwe. di tshwanang le Morupule B, e e leng gore gongwe Ministry o o ka bo o thusa lefatshe le la Botswana gore re tlisitse batho ba e seng bone ba ba ka bong ba re re nne self-sustainable, re kgaole dikoloto dingwe, neetse a product e re e batlang. Let us make sure that

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kwa BPC, procurement e nne sentle. I am saying this nna gaufi le yone, re ne re bonaconsultant ya Debswana, because, maabane kwa Ministry of Investment, Trade it is a company from outside. A company from outside e and Industry (MITI), Batswana bangwe ba letse ba tsile tlaabo e hira batho ba ba tswang kwa ntle, contractors kwa go rona ba tsile go ikuela. Ba ikuela mo go rona tsa rona mo Botswana go thata gore ba bone ditiro kwa gore, kana tsa solar tse go lebega di tlaa neelwa batho Debswana, because almost all our mines di laolwa ke ba ba tswang kwa ntle, mme Batswana ba le teng ba dikompone tse di tswang kwa South Africa. The same ka kgona go dira projects tseo. Re ya go tla leng mo applies to Morupule Coal Mine. That Motheo project e seemong sa gore re le mo Botswana, re kgone go neela o buang ka yone Honourable Minister, the consultant ke Batswana projects ba di dire. DRA kwa South Africa. What these companies do is, ba kgona go buisana kwa ntle ga Botswana for a project e Fa ke tswelela, licencing ya IPPs jaaka o ne o bua e mo Botswana, sa bone ke to fly into Botswana, make jaana, ke kgona go bona gore ministry o a bua gore you money and then go out. These are some of the things licenced 100kW, go go nnyennyane. Where we are as which I think re tshwanetse gore re di lebelele. Ke dilo BPC, re ka bo re tsamaya kgakala ka solar generation. tse di tswang kgakala di diragala, gongwe re tlhabolole We have the sun and solar radiation e e gaisang ya re tswe mo go tsone. Kwa Botswana Ash it is the same mafatshe a mangwe. We cannot be talking gore nnyaa, thing, kwa Soda Ash the company that is recently re dirile rooftop and all these things. Se ke lekang go being awarded the tender to mine kana e harvest the se rotloetsa gompieno ke gore, a re tsoseng dinao and solar, well, ke company e e mo Botswana, mme ga se benefit from the sun that we have. ya Batswana. Re ya go nna leng le nako ya gore kwa Go na le Integrated Resource Plan (IRP) e neng a e bua, mines re fe Batswana tshono ya gore ba kgone to benefit ya gore they are coming up with a robust electricity mo dilong tse. Go dira jalo go batla re eme ka dinao generation thing. Let it be that robust, e nne teng, a ko re Honourable Minister, rona re ka go ema nokeng gore boneng go diragala. Nnang teng, Minister, be a political citizens must be given an opportunity to play a part mo leader in that ministry. A dilo di fetoge. economy ya lefatshe la rona. This thing ya go nna gotwe nnyaa, Batswana ba tlaa fiwa 40per cent, no, Batswana BERA e bua ka filling stations, yes ba simolotse to ba kgona go dira even more than 40 per cent. A re direng licence filling stations. BERA is going in the right fela to make sure gore golo moo e nna beyond bone bo direction, I am impressed gore go na le tse ba sa boneng 40 per cent ba ba buiwang. di diragala sentle and all these things. Se ke ka se kopang kwa BERA ke gore, a go okediwe the retail Honourable Manake o sa tswa go bua gore a re kgoneng margin gore bana ba ba ntseng ba bereka mo filling go itse gore mo lefatsheng la rona go na le minerals dife, stations gongwe ba kgone to benefit, ba okeletswa re kgone go itebaganya le tsone. Go na le minerals tse e dituelo. Ba bangwe ke itse gore ba ne ba le retrenched, leng gore fa dilo di ntse di fetoga nako e ntse e tsamaya, because of COVID-19 fa re ntse re kgaola hours tsa ke tsone tse lefatshe ka bophara le lebaganang le tsone. operations tsa filling stations. Se re ka se dirang ke Minerals tse di tshwanang tse di dirang batteries tsa gore, go na le madi a motorists di a duelang a storage dikoloi; bo lithium, nickel and cobalt ke tsone minerals and handling a Goromente a sa a tseyeng (collect). This tse gompieno jaana mongwe le mongwe o lebile tsone, thing e sale e simololwa (introduced) ka 2009, le fa e ka gore we are going the electric vehicle way, malatsi a le gangwefela gore Goromente ga a ise a collect mo oil go buiwa ka yone. Electric vehicle is abuzz malatsi a. companies. Gongwe one madi ao, that part on the slate Ke tsone minerals tse re ka bong re check gore a re nale e shift jaanong go oketswe retail margins, re kgone re tsone mo Botswana, ka gore di ka tla tsa re direla madi duele bana ba rona ba ba kwa filling stations ka madi a a mantsi, ka gore mafatshe ba lebile tsone gompieno. a botoka. Maabane e bile fa Tautona wa rona a le kwa Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), ke ne ke eletsa e bile ke Ya rooftop solar is a welcome thing, it is coming up na le tsholofelo ya gore... right. Re a bona malls kwa bo Game City, they are going the rooftop way, it is a good idea. Ke dumela gore MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable e tlaa tsamaya fela sentle. Minister, the time is up.

Kwa mines; mining update o o neng o bua e le MR KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE WEST): employment, ke a tshwenyega Mr Chairperson. Kwa Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. Modulasetilo, re le banni ba Debswana kwa Cut 8, Cut 9 project, ka yone ke kile ka toropo ya Selebi Phikwe le Batswana ka kakaretso, re na

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le tsholofelo mo go Tona ka mabarebare a re setseng re molao o e leng gore e tlaa re fa kgwebo e lebanwe ke go a utlwile a gore kompone ya Premium Nickel Resources tswalwa, e bo e le gore it can be saved. Re kile ra bua ke yone e leng the preferred bidder go leka go bula gape gore a babereki e nne e re fa go nna le liquidation moepo wa BCL. kana collapse of corporations, e bo e le gore ke bone ba ba duelwang pele. Modulasetilo, re leboga maiteko a Modulasetilo, rona kana kwa Selebi Phikwe ga re ise Puso le ba ba mo liquidation gore ba bo ba dirile gore go re tshosediwe ke mabaka a a neng a fiwa a gore ke eng nne le a preferred bidder, yo e leng gore tsholofelo ya fa moepo o o ne wa tswala, ka gore re ne re dumela rona ke gore a bule moepo o, batho ba bereke. Tota rona gore mabaka a teng ga a a nonofa, a ne a ikganetsa ga re tsenelele thata mo dipolotiking tsa gore go ka tswa e bile a ne a sena boammaaruri, a a neng a buiwa go diragetseng, mme fela Palamente e tlaa tshwanelwa gotwe ditswammung di fedile kwa Selebi Phikwe, ke gore e bolelelwe (briefed) fully gore go tsamaile ditlhwatlhwa di kwa tlase. Re itse gore mo nakong e e jang, for the sake of transparency e le e buang le le mo fetileng, ditlhwatlhwa di ne di kgona go ya kwa tlase, di Pusong. A dikarabo tsotlhe tsa dipotso tse di leng teng ya kwa godimo, di ya tlase, di ya kwa godimo, mme ga di arabiwe, le potso e ke tla e tsenyang, e ke setseng ke re ise re bone moepo o tswalwa ka nako eo. e isitse kwa go Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Se se neng sa re utlwisa botlhoko go gaisa ke gore, Re a leboga e bile re a nametsega kwa Selebi Phikwe, fa bokete jwa babereki ba ba neng ba bereka koo ditiro re utlwa e kete leina la ga Rre Mphathi le e tla le kgabola tse di farologaneng, ba bangwe e le bo malaisa, ka gore motho yoo ke ene a itseng moepo wa BCL. Ke machine boy, …(Inaudible)… bomabalane le engineers ene tota e rileng mo nakong e e fetileng, ra bona e le botlhe ba ne ba latlhegelwa ke ditiro ka bokete jo bo gore moepo o le nako e o neng o na le mathata, ka fa gakgamatsang. Se se neng sa re hutsafatsa le go feta tlase ga boeteledipele jwa gagwe, go ne go supa gore ke gore, e bo jaanong ba duelwa one month salary ba go na le maikaelelo a gore dilo di tsamaye sentle. Re ka latlhegelwa ke pensions, gratuities le dikatso tsa bone. itumela fa e le gore mafoko a gore le ene o na le seabe Se Modulasetilo, se ne sa dira gore jaanong batho ba mo maitekong a go bula moepo, re ka nametsega le go tsene mo lehumeng le mo palong ya ba ba sa hirwang feta, e bile re ka itumela. ka bokete. Tona, ke kile ka go raya mo nakong e e fetileng ke Re ne ra ipona e le gore bontsi jwa batho ba ba neng ba re, go na le bangwe ba ba reng ba ka dirisa tailings bereka kwa moepong wa BCL le dikompone tse di neng le dumps tse di kwa BCL go dira sulphur products, di ikaegile ka moepo oo, kana jaanong ba mo mathateng fertilisers le ditena. Bangwe ba bone ke ba ba bidiwang a gore fa re bua jaana, they are blacklisted kwa credit gotwe ke Ferrogrow. Ga ke itse gore a o kile wa ba bureaus. Ga ba sa tlhole ba ka kgona gore ba adime utlwalela, ba bonwa golo gongwe ka kwa BBS. Ba dirile madi, they are listed mo bathong ba e leng gore jaanong ditshekatsheko tse di tseneletseng kwa bo Germany le ke ba ba nang le dikoloto tse di sa siamang. Ba bangwe America mme ba supa fela gore ba ka kgona go dira rraetsho, ba setse ba kile ba ya kwa dikgolegelong, ba products tse, ba bo ba hire batho ba feta sekete, ka fa ela go retelelwa ke go duela dikoloto, mme ba sa dire plan ya bone ke e boneng e ntse ka teng. Ke kompone ka bomo. ya Batswana, ya re fa go ka dirwa sengwe le sengwe se se ka kgonagalang, ba ka dira plants di ka nna eight Modulasetilo, se se ne se diragala mme e le gore tota (eight process manufacturing plants) producing four Goromente o ne a tshephisitse gore o tlaa dira mo gotweng commercial commodities as a cluster. Ke dumela gore o ke soft landing gore Batswana ba ba latlhegetsweng tlaa dira sengwe ka sone se Honourable Minister. ke ditiro koo, ba kgone go itshetsa morago ga go wa ga moepo wa BCL. Re ne ra ntsha mogopolo re le ba Fa re lebelela kgang ya mineral beneficiation; mafoko a Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) gore a re nne a neng a buiwa ke Rre Saleshando a gore fa gongwe re le Fair Entitlement Guarantee Scheme e e leng gore amogele fa go padile. Bagaetsho, a re amogeleng gore re dikompone tse di tona tse di tshwanang le tsone tse tsa le lefatshe, re paletswe ke gore mo kgannyeng ya mineral BCL, e re fa kompone e ka tsena mo liquidation kana beneficiation, re dire gotlhe mo re ka go kgonang gore ya tswalwa ka mabaka ape fela, e bo e le gore go na ditswammung tsa lefatshe la rona di re boele. Fa ke le kwa madi a ka tsewang teng a duela ba e neng e le tsaya sekai ka yone toropo ya Selebi Phikwe bagaetsho, babereki mo komponeng eo. Re kopa Puso e dire ka re epile kopore le nickel mo dingwageng gongwe di ka bonako gore go tle molao wa business rescue, ke gore atumela kana tsa feta 40. Ke gore re epa, re sila re bo re

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apaya, (mining, milling or crushing and smelting). E bo timepieces, di watch, ba kgakala thata le rona mme fa e le gore re tsaya matte one o jaaka o ntse, fa o sena go o lebelela, bone ga ba na ditswammung tse di precious nna o butswa at the smelter re o isa kwa mafatsheng a jaaka tse re nang le tsone mo Botswana. Jaanong karabo sele, e le gore it is going to be refined, go bo go ya go ya potso ya gore go tlile jang, mme karabo ya teng e dirwa tse di tswang mo koporeng le nickel. Jaanong tota na le boammaaruri, ke yone e e ka re kgontshang gore se se ka bong se dirilwe mo nakong e e fetileng, e ne e re emelele le fa re emelela thari, mme re ye go feta le gore go nne le a refinery plantkwa Selebi Phikwe e e mafatshe one a a tshwanang le bo Mauritius. leng gore it will refine nickel le kopore e e tswang from the smelter. E bo e le gore jaanong go ka nna le madirelo Go tla jang gore mo diteemaneng di le tharo, tse pedi a mangwe a a dirang ditshipi kana tse di tswang mo di tswa mo Botswana, fa o lebelela the entire diamond nickel le kopore jaaka bo diwaere (wires), pipes le tse production ya lefatshe, mme re na le 15 per cent mo dingwe. komponeng ya De Beers. Fa o re o lebelela diteemane, two out of three mo De Beers, the entire diamond Mafoko a a neng a tle a buiwe ke Rre Kitso Mokaila, production ke diteemane tsa Botswana. Ke eng le sa a bua gore go na le maikaelelo a to turn Phikwe into dire gore re nne le selekanyo se se fetang 60 per cent a metallurgical hub, a ka bo a sa bolo go diragala controlling stake mo De Beers. Re dire fela jaaka bogologolo, mme it is never too late. It is never too maSaudi Arabia ba ne ba dira ka dikompone tsa America late Honourable Minister, let us make sure gore jaaka fa ba tsaya boikarabelo jaanong (total responsibility and fa moepo o tlaabo o bulwa jaana, a re dire mo re ka go control) ya oil ya bone. A o raya gore go late gore re ka kgonang gore morago ga gore moepo o o bulwe, ka gore tsaya total control and responsibility ya diteemane tsa I once suggested gone mo Palamenteng mo morago fa rona ka go nna le stake se se fa godimonyana mo De go tswalwa gore, we can mine, mill and then re bo re Beers? Ke dumela gore ga go thari, re santse re ka dira rekisa concentrate re santse re emetse gore smelter ka tsela e e ntseng jalo… se ka tla se bulwa. Se se utlwisang botlhoko ke gore MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable kana sone smelter se, e rile pele fa moepo o tswalwa, se Keorapetse. Honourable Thiite. baakantswe ka madi a a fetang P700 million. Mme e bile jaanong go utlwala e le gore mo maikaelelong a go bula …Silence… moepo, smelter se tlaa se ke se bulwe. Tshepho yame MR CHAIRPERSON: A ga a yo Honourable Thiite? ke gore e tlaa re mo nakong e e kwa pele e e tlang, re Then Honourable Healy. tlaa se ke re bule smelter fela. Re tlaa dira gore re nne le smelter se se fetang bongwe gore ore kana concentrate …Silence… e e tswang mo region e ya Southern Africa; bo Zambia, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) le South Africa, MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesaso. e bo e le gore re ka tla ra e apaya kwa toropong ya Selebi …Silence… Phikwe. E seng moo fela, a re akanyeng ka maikaelelo a go aga refinery kwa Phikwe le gore the value chain MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Brooks. fela yone e go ya go felela kwa manufacturing, e bo e le teng mo toropong ya rona ya Selebi Phikwe gore go HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nte go tsene nna Mr nne le ditiro. Bohutsana jo bo leng teng jwa lehuma le le Chairperson. aparetseng banni ba toropo e, le tlisitswe ke gore go bo MR CHAIRPERSON: No, it is Honourable Dr go tswetswe moepo ka tsela e o tswetsweng ka yone, e Letsholathebe… bo e le gore dikgang tseo di ka femiwa. MINISTER OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, Ke rata go digela ka gore, fa re lebeletse ka fa botsalano RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY jwa rona le De Beers bo neng jwa nna ka teng, o tlaa (DR LETSHOLATHEBE): Thank you very much Mr bona gore le gone go tsere lebaka gore re ka rethefatsa Chairperson. Ke go leboge fela thata gore o bo o mphile re bo re phatsimisa teemane. Fa go sena go nna go tshono eno Mr Chairperson gore ke eme nokeng Tona tsaya lebaka, ke bonnyennyane fela bo se kae jo re bo wa Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy dirang jalo mo lefatsheng la rona. Kwa ntle ga moo fela, Security. Mr Chairperson, ke ema nokeng kopo ya madi lebelela, lefatshe le tshwana le la Mauritius, fa o bua ka a ga Tona ka tota tiro e a e dirang e le botlhokwa fela jewellery manufacturing, including manufacturing ya thata.

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Pele ke simolole ka go ema nokeng dikgang dingwe re e supegetswa kwa Botho re bona e le gore instead for tse a di buileng. The first one is very close to my heart, the electricity generating in the positive way e le gore go ke ya renewable energy. Kgang ya renewable energy a reverse as the sun heats those solar panels motlakase ke yone e e ka re thusang fela thata mo lefatsheng la o dirwa, mme e le Batswana ba o ba fileng tshono ya Botswana. Fa re ka lebelela dikgang tsa bo Photovoltaic gore ba ka dira jalo. I wish you could do that. Dikgang (PV), generation ya electricity di ka re thusa. Sengwe se tsa go rulela ka tiles di fetile, a re beyeng solar panels re re nang le sone se le se ntsi fela thata mo lefatsheng ke kgone to generate motlakase wa rona, e re kgwedi e fela letsatsi. Re na le lone le le le ntsi. Fa re ka le dirisa, re ka re bo re ya go fola (queue) kwa BPC re sa duele bill re kgona go fetllha (generate) motlakase o o ka re thusang. tsile to claim madi a rona a re fetlhileng motlakase ra o Fa o ka tsaya motse o o tshwanang le wa Patayamatebele, tsenya mo grid. Go a supafala gore o na le maikaelelo a o na le the PV that are set up that supply sekole le matlo go ya that direction. Ke go lebogele seo. a mangwe ka motlakase. Se se supa fela gore if we can Go na le kgang nngwe e ke batlang go feta ka yone go on that direction re ka kgona go ya golo gongwe. gape mo puong ya gago ke ntse ke go e lebogela ke ya Sengwe se re ka se lebelelang ke sa wind. Re ka dirisa BCL and Tati Nickle Mines Group. It is something se ke wind. Re na le lefatshe le le ntsintsi; desert e e sa ntseng ke se lebeletse with a lot of interest. Interest ya dirisiweng. Re ka kgona go baya those solar panels le me e le gore bontsi jwa batho ba kgaolo e ke e emetseng dilo tse di dirang motlakase o ka phefo. ya Tati East ba ne ba bereka gone kwa meepong e. Tona, bontsi jwa bone ba tlhomola pelo ga ba bereke. Ke batho Ka jalo Mr Chairperson, ke a mo rotloetsa gore he ba e leng ba malwapa. Fa sengwe se ka tswa jaaka o should put more on that. The 17 per cent yo a reng o supile gore go na le dipuisanyo, go na le mongwe yo le tlaa generate electricity ka solar PV, I should think it is mo tlhophileng gore le ye go tswelela pele le ene le bone still not enough. We can do far much better than that. gore le ka ya kwa kae, go ka re thusa Tona ka gore batho Fa o lebelela mafatshe a a tshwanang le bo Sweden le ba le bantsintsi ba tlaa kgona go bona ditiro mme se se Jeremane a go nnang go aperwe coats, go nna go le ka ba thusa. A re neneketseng ba re ba romileng gore tsididi thata, letsatsi le sa tswe thata mme bone ba dira ba re lebelele, gore ba tswelele mo dipuisanong. A re go feta this 17 per cent. Nnyaa Tona, a re lebalebe go buisaneng le bone, ba nenekediwe gore re ilele kgang ya bona gore we can do much on that area. go nna jaana. Ke bone go kwadilwe ka yone gantsintsi, ke re, nnyaa Batswana betsho, a re e ileleng re bone gore Sengwe se e leng gore we could do in partnership with e ya go felela kae. Le rona ba Research, we are having a you re le ba Research ke gore re ka lebaleba re bona gore lot of interest in that… re ka dira jang gore re lebelele gore panels tse re nang le tsone di re berekela le go feta. Kana bontsi jwa batho MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motsamai is ba na le go tsaya gore motlakase wa PV ga o bereke raising a point of procedure. ka gore solar panels ga di bereke sentle. Mostly e ne e MR MOTSAMAI: Mr Chairperson, I stood on a le gore di dirilwe go sele, di direlwa mo temperatures procedure since kgantele. O biditse batho ba le bararo tse go tsididi, mme fa di tla mo temperatures tsa rona go ya kwa go bone ba ntse ba seyo. Ka fa tsamaiso e tse di tsamayang kwa go 37, bo 40 o fitlhela e le gore ntseng ka teng, kana re go neetse list ya baakgedi. di a nyaoga di nna mathata di bo di felela di sa dire Jaanong re ne re ka se ke re… sentle. Ke re nnyaa mme re eme malalaalaotswe, we are looking for money. There are people ba ba berekang mo MR CHAIRPESON: Honourable Motsamai, I am Material Science, ba ba berekang mo fabricating thin taking the floor back from you, you are out of order. films tse di dirang solar panels. DR LETSHOLATHEBE: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Ka go rialo, we can do better fa re ka berekisana Tona, Ke ne ke santse ke bua ka gore we are also ready re le re ka kgona go ntsha motlakase fela o montsi. ba Research gore re thuse. We have learnt a lesson gore mo re tlaabong re dirisa copper ya rona, re ntsha nickel Sengwe se ke batlang go go leboga ke gore you invited ya rona re e isa kwa ntle re sa e dirise mo gae, go raya me last time kwa Botho le Airport Junction fa ba ne ba gore we depend mo bareking ba ba kwa ntle. Le rona re launch their solar panel installation ya PV. Ke sengwe ikiteile ka thupana. We are working to benefit, gore re se se botlhokwa fela thata. Se supa fela gore re ya golo kgone go dirisa all those, gore the value chain e kgone gongwe. If you remember the demonstration e re neng to benefit Batswana ba ba leng mo Botswana. Re di

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lebeletse; kgang e tshwana le ya bo BITRI. Honourable nnyaa ke rona fela ba re tshwanetseng gore re dirise Member mongwe o ne a bua fa ka kgang ya gore electric lemmenyana la rona re connect motlakase mo ditsheng car e tlhokana le batteries fela thata. BITRI is working tsa rona tse disha. in a project e e leng gore they are ready gore BCL fa e ka bulwa ba tseye matsapa a gore ba bone gore ba Ke go leboge Tona fa ke tla ka bokhutong jwa puo ya ka se ka ba dirisa nickel e go dira batteries. Battery e me gore o thusitse thata mahuti a a neng a le teng kwa e tlaa re thusang mo koloing ya rona ya motlakase e metseng ya bo Matsilojwe le bo Patayamatebele. You re berekang mo go yone. Le mo mafatsheng ka botona, have done a lot in that regard. O thusitse gore a thibiwe. le bone bo Tesla le bomang ba ba dirang dikoloi tsa Batho ba ne ba setse ba tshaba go ya masimo ka ntata motlakase, their biggest headache ke battery. O fitlhela ya the illegal land miners. Ba nna mo mafuting ao, e re koloi ya motlakase e dirilwe, mathata ke gore fa o re o batho ba feta ba ya kwa masimong ba lwa le bone ba ba ya kwa Tsamaya fela, fa o start o tsena mo Gaborone, golafatsa. 50 kilometres (km) battery e fedile and you need to have Ke sengwe se se ka thusang batho ba ka koo. Ka a le kalo to have a lot of charge. Fela ke tshepise ke re Tona, o se Tona, ke go leboge, ke go ema nokeng mo kgannyeng ka wa tshoga gore gongwe batho bao ba tlaa re ba ntsha ya gago ya kopo ya madi. Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. copper le nickel di ye kae. Re eme malalaalaotswe, we are going to use that. We are going to make sure that re MR MATHOOTHE (SEROWE NORTH): Ke a dirisa nickel tseo tsa gago. leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke akgolele Tona go bo a beile pego ya gagwe ka botswerere. Kgang e gongwe ke tlaa Fa ke tsena kwa kgannyeng ya Electrification e lebelelang, e ke tlaa simololang ka yone, ke e e amang Programme ya metse ya rona; you have done a lot Tona. kepo ya magala. Go supafala thata e le gore magala a Motse ke ole wa Patayamatebele, ke tsaya gore o a o mantsi thata mo lefatsheng la Botswana. Potso e motho gakolola o re neng re ile teng ka kgang e sele. Ba go a e ipotsang ke gore, a mme se se raya gore nngwe le emetse Tona, ke batho ba ba go ratang thata, motse o nngwe kompone e e batlang go epa magala, ke e re mo lefifing. Ke one motse fela o o senang motlakase yang go e neela tetla ya go dira jalo? Fa o ka lebelela kwa kgaolong ya Tati East. Ke re nnyaa tlhe Tona o fela o simolola gone kwa Masama, ba ba simolotseng tshepisitse gore ngwaga ono o tlaa o tshuba, gongwe fa production, ba Mmamabula ba ba tlaa tlogang ba o ka kgona to connect. Kana ba saletse kwa morago. simolola, ba Morupule ba ba setseng ba golela kwa Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) tsa re nobody pele mo go epeng magala, fa o tsena kwa kgaolong should be left behind. Ke gore gompieno jaana fa ya Lechana, go na le ba Shumba Coal, potso ke gore gotwe working from home, le fa gotwe bana ba ithuta jaanong mo Botswana, re tlaa tsamaya fela re ntse re through online teaching, ga ba ka ke ba ya go tsena ba e fa dikompone gore di epe coal? Ga se gore la bofelo le kwa lelwapeng kwa Patayamatebele ka gore ga go jaanong re tlile go felela re compromise lefatshe le re na motlakase, therefore telecommunication ga e yo. ka le dirisang mo temong jalo? Ke tsone dikgang tse Tona, gongwe fa re ka lebelela kgang e wa kgona go ba re tshwanetseng go di lebelela, Tona o tshwanetse go tsenyetsa, ba ka itumela fela thata. Le metse e mengwe lebelela… e e saletse kwa morago. Metse ya kwa ga rona e a gola. Go na le the new plots tse o fitlhelang ba na le gore ba MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Mathoothe, mma batla go tsenyetswa motlakase mme mathata e le gore re ye go kopa borakanelo, re tlaa bona after lunch. The go bonya. Metse e tshwana bo Shashe Bridge go na le House is adjourned, Honourable Members. plots tse disha tse di batlang go tsenngwa motlakase PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 1:00 P.M. FOR mme go lebega go le bonya. Le bo Siviya le metse ka APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR bontsi e batla go tsenyetswa motlakase. Maloba ke ne ka gakgamala fela thata fa ke tsena fa ke re ke tlhola batho, PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 2:00 P.M. motho fa ke dumedisa, “ao dumilani, gatwe mathata ke eng le sa tsenyetswe motlakase,” a re, “nnyaa, batho ba MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! BPC ba rile ke go bolelele wena o le Mopalamente gore Honourable Members, good afternoon. Let us resume o tseye madi a Constituency Fund o tsenye motlakase.” our business of today with questions. Nnyaa Tona, kgang eo re a bo re dira fela ka gore re batla go thusa ka gore mathata ke a rona rotlhe. E seng gore jaanong ba kompone ya gago ba simolole ba re

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QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER unable to state the value of the rhino horn currently in the Government stockpile. RHINO HORNS (iv) Legal rhino horn trade is not permitted at the MR O. RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): asked the Minister moment, thus making it impossible to dispose of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and of the rhino horn currently in the Government Tourism to state: coffers. Efforts have been made by some rhino ranch states through the submission of proposals to (i) total number of rhinos dehorned; trade in legally acquired rhino horn at the CITES (ii) total number of horns and their weight; conferences but this have not been successful.

(iii) the price of each horn per kilogram (kg) at market (v) Mr Speaker, all rhino horns are kept securely rate; and are monitored at all times. The Wildlife Conservation and National Parks Act states that (iv) the total estimated value of rhino horns in all rhino horns shall be Government property, all Botswana; rhino horns have to be surrendered to the state for (v) if Botswana intends to sell these horns; if not, why safe storage and for proper accounting under our not; and obligation to CITES. I thank you Mr Speaker.

(vi) whether the horns are stored in a secure place. MR RAMOGAPI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Honourable Speaker, selo sa ntlha ke kopa MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL go fetisa matshwenyego gore o kgalemeletse bo Tona RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM kgapetsakgapetsa gore fa go na le karabo nngwe ya (MS KERENG): I thank you Mr Speaker, good security e ka mabaka mangwe ga ba ka ke ba ntsha se afternoon. Thank you Honourable Ramogapi. batlotlegi ba se batlang, ba buisane le wena, gammogo (i) Mr Speaker, rhinos are under severe threat from le nna. Golo mo go tswelela fela Motlotlegi Speaker, poaching throughout the continent, including here o kare o a nyadiwa golo fa, a ko o lebelele sentle, o in Botswana. Due to security concerns surrounding kgaleme go utlwale, ke tsaya gore o ne o reeditse rhinos Mr Speaker, I am not in a position to reveal Honourable Minister. the number of rhinos that were dehorned in 2020. Ke supe jaana ke re, lebaka le le tona Honourable We however continue to put in place all the Minister ke go lebogele gore o lekile go araba. Ke go necessary measures to protect our rhinos and this tsibose gore lebaka le le tona mmaetsho le o bonang includes dehorning of all the rhinos in the wild as ke tla ka potso e ke gore Batswana ba tshwenyegile, prescribed by conservation practices. le nna ke tshwenyegile ka kgang ya gore Batswana ba re, fa o sale o tsaya ministry wa go disa diphologolo, (ii) Given the above already stated sensitivities Mr diphologolo di a nyelela ka fa tlase ga matsogo a gago, Speaker, I am not able to divulge the quantities and fa go tshwantshanngwa le ka nako e go neng go tshwere the weight of rhino horns that were derived from Rre Tshekedi Khama. Ke ne ke batla o tlhalosetse the dehorning exercise that we undertook. There Batswana gore a se ba se buang mo mebileng, e ka tswa is no legal market for rhinos as there is currently e le boammaaruri kana e se boammaaruri, dipego tseo no legal international trade in the rhino horn that di kgaphelwe kwa thoko gore ka fa tlase ga ministry is permitted under the Convention on International wa gago o kare o timetsa diphologolo di le dintsi? Trade in Endangered Species, commonly known Kana dipalo fa di tla, di supa gore ka fa tlase ga gago, as the CITES that protects flora and fauna. This ditshukudu di bolailwe di le dintsi thata. Gape o bo o is the global convention which governs trade in re bolelele gore fa e le gore ke boammaaruri, wena wa endangered species, their parts and derivatives. It reng ka se, o ikaelela go di sireletsa jang? Gape le gore is therefore, not possible to ascribe a legal value or dinaka tse tsa ditshukudu, a bajanala ba itumela go bona price to rhino horn at this point in time. di kgaotswe dinaka kana ba itumelela go bona di na (iii) Mr Speaker, even that there is no legal value for le dinaka ka fa wena o bonang ka teng? Ke a leboga rhino horn in the absence of a legal market; I am Honourable Speaker.

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MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, you are aware ditshukudu bogolo jang ka re bua ka ga ditshukudu rra, about the Standing Orders, it is not nice for you to say tse re itseng gore re ne re di beile thata kwa Okavango you consider something secret, so you are going to ka kwa, re ntse re tshwaragane le ba sesole, di ntse di answer whether …(Inaudible)…Standing Orders with sirelediwa ka lone lenaneo le gotweng Anti-Poaching your Permanent Secretary (PS)…(Inaudible)… that Strategy, le le neng le supa gore ke bomang mo discussion between you, the Honourable Member who makalaneng a itshireletso ba ba ka re thusang ka kwa asked the question and the Speaker. Kgalagadi mo mafelong a a farologanyeng. Ke dumela gore le fa re ntse re tsweletse re tokafatsa ditsamaiso tsa MS KERENG: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke amogele rona rra, ke kgotsofalela ka fa re ntseng re dira ka teng, phosego eo, re tlaa ipaakanya, ke leboga thata bogolo jang jaaka ke lebeletse gore re mo nakong ya motlotlegi. Mopalamente, wa re o amogela gore ke ka gore re leke go tokafatsa ka fa re ntseng re dira ka teng, se ke ke kgone go ntsha dipego tse o di tlhokang, mme gore di sireletsege le go feta foo. Le ya go di kgaola o supile gore go na le matshwenyego a gore gatwe ke dinaka eo rra, ke lengwe la mananeo a a dirisiwang ke sale ke etelela lephata, diphologolo di a swa. Ga ke itse mafatshe ka bophara go leka go fokotsa bogodu jwa gore diphologolo di bolawa ke Tona jang, le gore wa diphologolo. Ke tsaya gore bajanala ba a tlhaloganya, re dikgang tseo di tswa kwa mebileng. Rra, rona ga re ba itse gore lenaka le rra le a kgaolwa le boe le tlhoge bereke ka dikgang tsa mebila jalo, re Puso, re tsamaisa gape mo dingwageng di ka nna ngwaga le half go ya go dilo ka ditsamaiso, re ntsha dipego. Re dirisana le tsena kwa dingwageng tse tharo, e tlaa re mo nakong e batsayakarolo ba rona, re ntse re ntsha dipego gore re tshwanetseng lenaka leo le bo le boile gape. Ke a leboga tlhokomela diphologolo tsa rona, re di sireletsa ka tsela Mr Speaker. e e ntseng jang, le strategies and policies tse re ntseng re di diragatsa jalo. Se ke ka se supang ke gore dipego tse MR RAMOGAPI: Point of procedure. Mr Speaker, o reng diphologolo di swa ka bontsi kana di a nyelela, fa ke dire procedure ya gore Honourable Minister o e sale ke tsena mo lephateng rra, ga ke di itse. Gongwe bua dikgang tse pedi tse di farologanyeng. O kile o ka ntlela ka dipego tseo, le nna ke tle ke ntshe dipego a fa pego mo Palamenteng, e go neng go botsa Rre tse di supang gore fa e sale ka 2020 go simolola fela ka Nkawana, a supa gore ka boammaaruri ka fa tlase ga dinako tsa bo February, March, bogodu jwa ditshukudu gagwe diphologolo, bogodu jwa teng bo nnile bontsi, bo fokotsegile. Re ne re tlhola re utlwa le teng mo as compared to the previous predecessor, a supa jalo. E mebileng ba ka supa, re ne re itse gore beke le beke go bile nako ya teng ke fa Rre Nkawana a supa gore, a ga ne go nna le dipego tsa gore ditshukudu di le pedi di le go bakiwe ke gore jaanong re tseetse badisa diphologolo tharo, e le nngwefela e bolailwe, mme re feditse ngwaga ditlhobolo. O ne a supa jalo gore nnyaa, diphologolo o o fetileng rra, go sena seemo se se ntseng jalo. di utswilwe ka bontsi. Letsatsi leno jaanong o fetogile o bua kgang e nngwe a re nnyaa, ene ga a itse sepe, Jaanong, fa re sa tshwara dipego fa re di lebeletse, ka fa tlase ga gagwe diphologolo di tsamaya sentle. O go thata gore ke go reye ke re re ka tla go kopana mo kare golo mo ga se go araba Palamente ka tlhwaafalo, a Palamenteng re bua ka mabarebabare a kwa mebileng, Palamente e fiwe karabo e le nngwefela e e tsepameng a o setseng e bile o tlhalositse gore o tsere dikgang kwa Honourable Minister. Ke a leboga. mebileng. Ke kopa gore a re berekele mo go diragatseng mo dipegong tse di ntshiwang ke lephata le tse di ka HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopile procedure dumelesegang e seng ka kwa ntle kwa o di tsayang ka Honourable Speaker. teng, mo mebileng jaaka o bua. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. O boditse gape gore, gone re sireletsa diphologolo tsa rona ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Re na le Anti-Poaching MR SPEAKER: I do not understand what these Strategy, e re tshwaraganeng le maphata a rona a procedures are about. If the Honourable Minister in itshireletso ba ba re thusang go tlhokomela le go your view is giving contradictory statements, that sireletsa diphologolo tsa rona. Strategy se mo nakong ya is not an issue of procedure. I passed the stage of gompieno re a se sekaseka, go bona gore re ka tokafatsa supplementaries, I have called upon the Honourable ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Member for Shoshong, Honourable Lesaso.

O ne o bua gore a ke kgotsofalela se re se dirang re le NON-INDIGENOUS COMPANIES AND lephata go sireletsa diphologolo. Ke batla go supa gore, CORPORATIONS

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MR A. LESASO (SHOSHONG): asked the Minister with the Consumer and Competition Authority (CCA) Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy with the objective to consult, cooperate and exchange Security if he is aware that; information related to the monitoring and oversight of the energy market within the jurisdiction of BERA (i) The non-indigenous Batswana gas monopoly and and CCA. Furthermore, Section 62 of the BERA Act large corporate entities of importers, retailers and provides that all issues relating to competition that distributers have and continue to push indigenous may arise during the discharge of BERA’s functions Batswana out of the lucrative business; must be referred to the CCA. Therefore, my ministry (ii) This cartel has squeezed out local indigenous through BERA will refer this to the CCA to carry out the businesses to foreclosure by applying underhand necessary investigations. methods of competition; Ka bokhutshwane, Mr Speaker, e ne e le gone go supa (iii) One or two of the success stories we had were jalo gore re emetse patlisiso e dirwang e re e solofetseng closed out because of control by the cartel gore e wele ka April, e e tlaa re neelang tsotlhe gore go monopoly gas businesses have on cylinders and ntse go direga eng mo mohameng o wa gas, le gore go valves through the Safety Association of Southern ka tokafadiwa fa kae, ga dirwa eng, re bo re nna le tsone Africa (SASA) based in the Republic of South tse re tlaa di dirang morago ga report eo. Africa; and Kgang ya gore go na le bangwe ba ba tsunyetsang (iv) These non-indigenous companies and benggae mo mohameng o, tota ga re ise re e tlhaloganye, corporations, through negative campaigns re e itse sentle. Re tlaa kopa ka boikokobetso gore succeeded to discredit the valve and cylinders motlotlegi a tle a re sedimose ka information nngwe e used by indigenous Botswana. a ka tswang a na le yone, re tle re latedise le ba CCA ba re nang le tirisano le bone gore ba re thuse mo MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN ditlhotlhomisong tsa go nna jalo. Ka bokhutshwane a TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR kalo, ke a leboga Mr Speaker. MOAGI): Thank you Mr Speaker and good afternoon. MR LESASO: Supplementary. Mr Speaker, e re (i) Mr Speaker, in response to Question 306 that was fa Minister a ntse a bua ka ditlhotlhomiso tse ba tlaa previously asked by the Honourable Member on di dirang, ke mo tsibose gore kana gompieno jaana Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG), I had indicated these multinational companies ba dumalana prices tsa that my ministry through the Botswana Energy cylinders kwa South Africa, and every new entrant yo o Regulatory Authority (BERA) was undertaking tsenang mo industry e, ba mo ntshetsa kwa ntle, ka gore a market study on LPG. As indicated, the study prices tsa bone ba di beile. Wena fa o goroga o le mošha will address issues relating to market structuring, o tshwanetse gore o tsene o rekise gas, ba go bolelela pricing, citizen participation and other issues gore o tshwanetse gore o rekise cylinder price ke efe, ka along the entire value chain. The report, which gore bone ba setse ba na le prices tsa bone. Wena o tla is expected in April 2021 will contain detailed o ntse o re, this price ke yone e ke ka kgonang go rekisa baseline assessment of how the local LPG ka yone. Example e e teng ke Pula Holdings, which they industry has been functioning, findings and squeezed out of this business, gompieno Tswana Gas is recommendations; and an implementation matrix struggling because of these multinational companies. for progressing the agreed recommendations. Are you aware gore ba na le that system e ba e dirisang? Therefore, Mr Speaker, I will urge the Honourable Member Lesaso to await the completion of this Ya bobedi ke ya gore, these multinational companies ba particular study I am referring to. ya South Africa ba feta ba reka gas then store it. The local people fa ba re ba ya go reka, ba utlwa gotwe gas In terms of (ii), (iii) and (iv) Mr Speaker, my ministry ga e yo, they are forced to come back ba tla go reka is not aware of the alleged cartel that has squeezed mo go ba ba rekileng gas kwa ba tswaletseng Batswana out local indigenous businesses to foreclosure by gore ba se ka ba tsena mo go yone. applying underhand methods of competition. This Honourable House may be pleased to learn that BERA Ya bofelo ke go botse gore, le ya go dira leng go bona has a standing Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) gore you store gas mo Botswana, gore Batswana ba ba

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itekang ka go rekisa gas mo Botswana, ba kgone go e re motlotlegi, jaaka o setse o boditse, dikole tsotlhe kwa bona locally ba sa ...(Inaudible)…multinationals kwa Kgalagadi North re sa balele le sa Ngwatle Primary, South Africa. Ke eme Mr Speaker. di na le mabala a bana ba ka itshidilang, ba tshameka metshameko e re e fitlhelang mo dikoleng. Re tshwanetse MR MOAGI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke leboge go dumela le go bolela gore mme mabala a, ga a mo Honourable Member Lesaso. Ke mo tshephise gore seemong se e leng gore bana ba ka gaisanya mo go tse ke utlwa tsotlhe tse a ngongoregang ka tsone, e bile go di kwa godimo tsa metshameko mo go one. Ke gore ga ka re thusa re le lephata le ba BERA ba ba okametseng a a direlwa gore a nne for competitive sport ka mafoko a melawana ya gases, gore information e a nang le yone Seeng. Mabaka e se gore re ntse fela, mabaka e le gore a re e adime, a re e neele. Ga ke ganetse sepe se a se jaaka o itse, re na le mathata a mantsi thata mo dikoleng. buang, ka gore ke se a se itseng ene. Rona ga re se itse Re lebaganye le go isa seemo meriting go bona gore ka kwano, jaanong ke ne ke ka kopa thata gore a re barutabana selo sa ntlha ba na le bone boroko. Selo sa neele tsotlhe tse a nang le tsone, re tle re di latedise re di ntlha o a itse gore le tsone di property tsa borutelo di baakanye. Ke sone se ba BERA ba lekang gore ba nne ba santse di tlhaela go le kalo. tsamaye le ba ba dirang le maphata a gas; a ke barekisi kana wholesalers, ba ba ka nnang ba sela dikgang mo Jaanong ke tsone dilo tse di re bayang mo seemong sa go bone. This is the market study I am talking about, ba gore re bo re sa kgone go tlhabolola mabala a gore a batla go ithuta gone mo, matshwenyego a a ntseng jalo nne mo seemong se e leng gore bana ba ka kgona go a tlaa fitlhelwa a bo a baakanngwa.Price e bewa (set) ke ithuta tse di kwa godimo tse e leng gore bo Motlotlegi BERA, e baakanngwa ke ba BERA. Rakgare ba a di tlhoka mo go rona gore re ba neele bana ba ba mo seemong se se rileng. Mme ke re jaaka o itse, Jaanong fa e le gore go na le golo gongwe kwa e leng kwa Kgalagadi North fa re bua jaana, 12 staff housing gore gongwe ga ba ise ba fitlhelele teng kaprice , ke tsone kwa Lehutshelo le Lehututu Junior Secondary Schools, dikgang tse di tlaa tswang tseo. Ke mo tshephise ke re, matlo a ke a e leng gore a agilwe, jaanong one madi a re ikaeletse jalo, jaanong re thuseng re le stakeholders fa re ka re re ya go a tshela kwa mabaleng, e tlaabo e le in this gore sepe se o nang le sone, se re ka tswang rona gore ga re itirele sentle re le ba Lephata la Thuto, re sa re sena le sone ka kwano, le se re neele re tle re kgone direle le bone bana le barutabana sentle. go baakanya. E ntse e le gone gore bo Tswana Gas jaaka ba ntse ba simolola, re ba rotloetse gore bo Tswana Jaanong, jaaka ke go bolelela, re lebile ditshekatsheko Gas bao, ba gole ba nne bantsi e bo e nna bo Tswana tse e leng gore di dirilwe ke ba lephata la ga Motlotlegi Gas, Balete Gas, jalojalo. Ke tsone tse re di batlang mo Rakgare le la rona, go bona gore tota tse tsa metshameko Botswana, e bile ke one maikaelelo a rona rra. mo dikoleng re ka di tsamaisa jang gore re ba thuse ka gore ba batla bana ba go ya pele. Jaanong ke tsone Ke solofela gore kgang ya rona ga e na go felela fa, dilo tse e leng gore re lebile gore go ya pele, le gone ke tlaa tsaya matsapa ke le Tona gore ke ikopanye le gore mabala a ke fa go tshamekelwang teng, sengwe le Mopalamente a nneele information e ke tlaa e fetisetsang sengwe fela, tota go ya pele re tshwanetse go ka dira kwa maphateng a me ka kwano gore re tsweletse. Ke a jang. Ke ditshekatsheko tse e leng gore di a direga gone leboga. jaanong jaana motlotlegi. Ke a leboga.

SCHOOLS IN KGALAGADI NORTH MS MONNAKGOTLA: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker and good afternoon again. Ke lebogela Tona MS T. MONNAKGOTLA (KGALAGADI NORTH): ka karabo e. Ke re Tona, kana ka fa o buang ka teng, asked the Minister of Basic Education: e bile ke go botse gore, kana go raya gore Kgalagadi (i) which schools in Kgalagadi North have been North or Kgalagadi South, ga ba kake ba host music identified to host sports competitions; and competitions, ga ba kake ba host ball sports. So go raya gore go tlaa nna go host dikole tse di ka kwano fela. Ke (ii) when bathing showers will be constructed at the ka fa o buang ka teng Tona? identified schools. MS MAKWINJA: Ke a leboga motlotlegi. Ga ke bone ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION gore ke jaaka ke bua. O gopola gore fa e le gore go na le (MS MAKWINJA): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa dilo tse e leng gore di tlaa itsa bana go tshameka kana to Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke a leboga motlotlegi. Ke host dilo dingwe, ke dilo tse ke ntseng ke bua ka tsone

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gore ga se ka bomo, gore dilo tseo di bo di seyo. Ke (ii) has the Minister considered availing the required gopola gore ga se kwa Kgalagadi fela, dikole tse dintsi resources to establish this Sub-Land Board for ga di na tsone dilo tse o di buang motlotlegi. Ke sa reye Ghanzi East. gore go siame, ke sone se ke reng, go ya pele re dirile ditshekatsheko tsa gore go ka tlhabololwa fa kae, go MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER tlhabololwa jang fa kae, go lebilwe tsone ditogamaano AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): tsa Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Mr Speaker, I am aware that Ghanzi East Sub-District Development, ka gore tota kwa sekoleng jaaka o bua, Council villages have no sub-land board servicing them. rona re humanegile, re ya le dilo tse e leng gore tota The villages are currently serviced by the Ghanzi Main gone jaanong jaana, ke tsone tse di botlhokwatlhokwa Land Board and receive all the services that would have tsa gore dibuka, dikago, tse re leng mo mathateng a been provided by a sub-land board. The main land board tsone. Le fa e le go le gonnyennyane ga re re dikole tse can function and provide all the services at the sub-land dingwe ga di a tshwanela go nna le tse, tse fela ke tsone board. di tlaa nnang. Nnyaa, ga go a nna jalo. Tanki. (i) Mr Speaker, the major challenge is that the main DUAL CITIZENSHIP land board acts as both the main and sub-land board. In the event that there is need for clients to DR U. DOW (SPECIALLY ELECTED): asked appeal decisions of the Board they have to directly the Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender appeal to the Land Tribunal, which they do at the Affairs: present moment.

(i) whether she accepts that citizenship is bestowed (ii) Mr Speaker, district leadership has previously upon one by operation of the law of the country submitted the same request to my ministry for bestowing same and that it is unfair, inconvenient our consideration. The request was however not and distressing for one to be punished for acts that implemented/accepted due to resource challenges are not one’s own, as when it is found that an adult at the time. The funding situation has not changed person did not renounce a citizenship, that in some for the better and we are still facing the same cases one did not even know they had; resource challenges. My ministry is therefore not in a position to establish a sub-land board for the (ii) if she is aware that there are many people who villages in the Ghanzi East Sub-District Council were born with dual citizenship, have never for now. I thank you Mr Speaker. sought to enjoy the other, but are now facing legal, educational, residence and other challenges MR THIITE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. associated with failing to renounce that other Thank you Honourable Minister. Honourable Minister, citizenship upon turning 21 years old; and fa o le fa o tsaya matshwenyego a batho ba dikgaolo (iii) what legal and/or policy reforms she plans to tsone tse re di bitsang tsa Ghanzi East villages, bothata initiate to solve this problem. jo bongwe ke jo ba kopanang le jone ke gore, fa dikgang tsa bone ba tshwanelwa ke to appeal jaaka o ntse o bua Later Date. mo karabong ya gago, ba tshwanelwa ke gore ba ye kwa Land Tribunal, mme kana bontsi ja sebaka metse SUB-LAND BOARD FOR GHANZI EAST SUB- e o tlaa gakologelwa gore ke metse e e leng gore bontsi DISTRICT jwa yone jaaka re ne re bua gore bo Kuke, Qabo, Bere, MR J. L. THIITE (GHANZI NORTH): asked the West Hanahai, Chobokwane, New Xade, ke metse ya Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation tengnyanateng Honourable Speaker. E e leng gore batho Services if he is aware that Ghanzi East Sub-District ba teng fela ka bo bone ba na le dikgwetho tsa gore ba Council villages of Grootlagte, Qabo, Kuke, New Xade, ka tswelela ba ya kwa Land Tribunal jaaka o araba. East and West Hanahai, Chobokwane, Bere-Kacgae Gone mo Mr Speaker disadvantages them. Jaanong have no sub-land board servicing them; if so: what is going to be the solution ya go bona gore re ba (i) whether this is not disadvantaging them as thusa jang ka gore kwa bofelong jwa nako, ba felela ba compared to other villages having a sub-land sa ye kwa Land Tribunal mme ba ntse ba na le keletso board; and ya to appeal, ka gore nako e nngwe tathagelo ya cases

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tsa bone, fa gongwe o fitlhele e le gore tota ke dingwe thata ka gore jaanong dijalo di a bola kwa tlase e bile ga tse e leng gore di ne di tlhoka fela gore they can be dealt go beye itsholelo ya rona fa go tsenwa mo dijong sentle. with in-house, e bo e le gore e nna so escalated that go feta le bone bokgoni le resources tsa bone gore ba ye go Mr Speaker, jaaka e le kgang ya dilo tsa tlholego goroga koo. Mr Speaker, a ga re re maikaelelo a rona ke (disaster), that is beyond our control. Fa e ntse jaana, go thusa batho ba tengnyanateng gore ba bone ditlamelo it is coordinated ke ba Disaster Management Office fa ba leng teng? I thank you Mr Speaker. (DMO) e e leng under Ministry wa Presidential Affairs mme gompieno re santse re bereka le bone go bona gore MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa re ka dira jang. Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Jaaka ke lekile go tlhalosa, ga re na ditsompelo mo sebakeng sa gompieno tsa gore Honourable Member, ke supe jalo gore gona le Disaster re ka tla ra simolodisa kana ra tlhoma sub-land board Management Plan e e teng kana e santse e kwalwa. kwa Ghanzi East jaaka motlotlegi le ba bangwe ba kile Re le ba ministry, re ne re batlile gore re bue le bone ba bua gore go botlhokwa gore go nne le sub-land board. ka dikgang le tsa bo early warning signs system jalo le jalo gore re kgone re tlhalose gore go tlaa nna eng, Mo sebakeng sa gompieno ba ikuela kwa Tribunal e e kae. Re bo re re ipaakanyetse gore ke dife dijalo tse di kwa Maun. Le fa go ne go na le sub-land board, ba ne kgonang gore di ka jalwa fa e le gore go ka nna le pula ba tlile go ikuela kwa main land board. Fa ba ne ba sa e ntsi di ka se ke tsa bolawa ke metsi. Ke gone kwa itumelela tshwetso ya land board, ba ne ba ntse ba tlile Disaster Management Plan eo Mr Speaker e gongwe go ya go ikuela kwa Maun. Jaanong ga gona se re ka re ka kgonang gore re kope madi mo maphateng a se dirang mo sebakeng sa gompieno ka gore… mma ke tshwana le bo Green Fund e e santseng e tshegeditswe le neele sekai gore go nne le sub-land board, re tlhoka ke ba Environment gore gongwe re kgone go thuswa bodiredi jwa batho ba le masome mabedi le bosupa fela kana re kgone go bona gore re dira jang dikgang tse tsa mo ofising ya teng. Mo sebakeng sa gompieno ga rena climate change tse di amang balemi barui. Ke a leboga ditsompelo tsa gore re hire batho ba ba kalo kana re Mr Speaker. senke madirelo kana offices tse ba tlaa berekelang mo go tsone. Jaanong mo sebakeng sa gompieno, ke gone MR MAJAGA: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker fela go ya go ikuela gone kwa Land Tribunal. Ke tseela and thank you Honourable Minister. Ke ne ke re ke a go gore le fa sub-land board e ne e ntse e le teng, ba ne ba utlwa Tona ka fa o arabileng ka teng. A ga o bone gore ntse ba tshwanetse go ya go ikuela kwa Land Tribunal ke nako ya gore mo dingwageng tse kana mo mabakeng fa ba ne ba sa itumelela tshwetso ya main land board. a re leng mo go one go nne le budget every year e e Ke a leboga. tlaabong e ya kwa Disaster, e seng go nna go kopiwa from ministry. Whether it will small as it can be but go ASSISTANCE TO FARMERS nne go na le a budget for disaster go lebeletswe mabaka otlhe a a nnang a diragala mo lefatsheng ka kakaretso, MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the Minister go sa lebelelwa kgaolo ya Nata-Gweta fela gore a tle a of Agricultural Development and Food Security: kgone go thusa to mitigate these disaster tse di nnang (i) if there is any budget to assist farmers affected by le some serious occurrence time and again because of floods at Gweta and surrounding areas as water climate change. logging has caused food insecurity in the area; and MS MANAKE: Ke dumalana le wena Honourable (ii) whether his ministry has any plans to seek Majaga. Ke kgakololo e ntle thata e bile ke dilo dingwe assistance from international organisations to tse re di lebileng. Ke sone se re setseng re bua ka the assist farmers affected by floods. early warning signs system tse gongwe re ka kgonang gore re lemoge gore ke dife tse e leng gore fa go ka ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL diragala, ra nna le dibetso tsa tlholego di a re ama mo DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS agriculture, and how do we solve them go yeng pele. MANAKE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, Jaaka ke ka tsaya example ya maloba go le tsie e e neng dipula tse di ileng tsa na, kana merwalela e e neleng ya ama dijalo, e ne e le a public concern e e neng e kwa kgaolong ya Nata-Gweta, re a itse gore e ile ya dira wela under Disaster Management jalo le jalo. Re le ba gore metsi a kgone go ema mo mafelong a go nang le ministry fa o ne o ka lebelela, re ne re sa itomaganya temo. Re a tlhaloganya gore golo mo go amile temothuo sentle mme ke ipolelela gore structurally re leka go

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baakanya dikgang tse di ntseng jaana gore re nne le re rotloetsa banana go tsena mo dikgwebong, go nna divisions that focus mo dillong di tshwana le tse gore independent, go godisa dithuto tsa bone tsa go tsamaisa re se ka ra salela kwa morago fa go tsena mo dilong di dikgwebo. tshwana le tsone tse Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga. Re bo re nna le le lengwe le le faphegileng le le amegang YOUTH TALENT mo maphateng a mantsi a Puso a e leng gore monana fa a na le kompone a phadisanya le ba bangwe, tender fa MR K. NKAWANA (SELEBI PHIKWE EAST): e rekwa rekwa P50 o e reka half price, o e reka ka P20. asked the Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development to apprise this Honourable House Lenaneo le re tsamaile ka dikgaolo ke na le Motlotlegi on initiatives to introduce and support youth talent and Rakgare re tsamaya re botsa banana ka fa ba eletsang its sustenance, as well as businesses development go thusiwa ka teng mme ba supile e le lenaneo le le ba thusang thata go tsenelela dikgang tsa kgwebo. Ke a ASSISTANT MINISTER OF YOUTH leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR BILLY): Ke a leboga MR NKAWANA: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke leboge gape Speaker. Mme ke go leboge Tona ka karabo ya gago. le Honourable Nkawana. Ke botse gore fa re sale re tlhaselwa ke segajaja se se re tlhasetseng gompieno, bontsi jwa banana, segolo jang Mr Speaker, Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport kwa kgaolong e ke e emetseng ya Phikwe, ga gona sepe and Culture Development (MYSC) o na le megopolo se se lebaganeng le dikitso tsa bone. Ga gona sepe sa le mananeo a a thusang le go rotloetsa banana mo go banana se e leng gore dikitso tse ba nang le tsone, tse tsa itshetso, dikeletso le tsa dikgwebo. Ka jalo fa o di ba tlhabololang di ka tswelela, tsa somarelesega. Go ka lebelela, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore mo dikgaolong lebega e le batho ba ba itlhobogileng. tse tsotlhe, re na le mo go tweng Constituency Sports Programme e e leng gore ka yone re rotloetsa banana go Fa e le gore ke performing arts, ga go na kwa ba ka tsena o metshamekong go itshidila le go godisa dikitso perform teng. Go raya gore seemo seo se dira gore ba tsa bone (talent). lebale dikitso tsa bone. Kana talent e e tshwanang le e, ke e e batlang gore e nne e diragadiwa letsatsi le letsatsi Re na le ya Constituency Arts Competition mme mo gore e se ka ya latlhegela ngwana, le gone e godisiwe. go yone re na le mananeo (programmes) jaaka tse re Jaanong potso Tona ke gore, tota wa re o dira eng gore di dirang ka Letsatsi la ga Tautona, letsatsi la Boipuso dikitso tse banana ba nang le tsone, mo sebakeng sone le badiragatsi ba dibaesekopo (film festivals). Mo go se sa COVID, di se ka tsa ba latlhegela? tlatseng moo, re na le tsa ngwao. Fa o ka lebelela tse tsa ngwao, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore bontsi jwa batho ba ba MR BILLY: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga amegang mo metshamekong e kana competitions tse ke motlotlegi. Fa o ka ela tlhoko gore potso ya gago ka fa o banana. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, lephata le le tlaabo le neng o e boditse ka teng, o mpoditse se ke se arabileng. rotloetsa banana go tsena mo dikgannyeng tsa ngwao le O boditse gore re dira eng ka nako ya COVID-19. Kana go itshetsa ka yone. o a itse gore Goromente yo re mo tsamaisa ka mo re reng One Government. Re na le One Government Policy Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, dikgang tse e e leng gore rona ga e ka ke ra re dilo dingwe tse di di amanang le go tlhabolola banana ka dikgwebo, go kgobokanyang batho di tswaletswe, re bo re ka rotloetsa itshetsa kana ka programmes tse re nang le tsone, lephata banana gore ba kgobokanye batho, ba dira metshameko le la MYSC ga le bereke le le nosi, le bereka le maphata e o sa tswang go bua ka yone. a mangwe a Puso go atolosa dikgang tsa dikgwebo tsa banana re tsamaisana le bone tonto tshipidi. Mme mo Jaanong se re se dirang ke gore, fa o ka lebelela go tsone re na le lephata la Local Enterprise Agency dikgwebo tsa banana, nna le Motlotlegi Rakgare, re ntse (LEA) le le tswang mo lephateng la ga Mme Serame re tsweletse re etela dikgwebo tsa banana. Re fitlhela e le Rraetsho Molebatsi. Mo go tsone ba rotloetsa banana le gore bontsi jwa tsone di dira sentle. E bile le dituelo o kana ba godisa dithuto tsa banana (capacity building). a itse rraetsho gore re ntse re lela gore ga ba duele loans tsa bone sentle, mme re a gakgamala ka gore fa o ka Re na le lenano gape mo MYSC la Youth Development lemoga gompieno, ba duela loans tsa bone ka tsela e go Fund (YDF). Ke programme e e leng gore ka yone supafalang gore go boammaaruri dikgwebo tsa banana

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tse dintsi di a tsamaya. Rraetsho, banana ba tsweletse • Tati Riverside Clinic in Palapye ba dira metshameko jaaka e e neng e ntse e dirwa, e buletswe go sekaenyana, ka dipalo tse di rileng. Ba • Renal Care Institute in Gaborone letlelesega go dira ka dipalo tse di rileng, re ntse re etse • Gaborone Private Hospital tlhoko melawana ya COVID-19 rraetsho. Ke a leboga • Bokamoso Private Hospital Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. • Sedilega Private Hospital KIDNEY AND DIALYSIS SERVICES (iii) At present, there is no intention to establish MR K. C. HIKUAMA (NGAMI): asked the Minister Government owned haemodialysis in the North of Health and Wellness to brief this Honourable House West region. However, the ministry is in the on the state of kidneys and dialysis services in the process of finalising arrangements for citizen country; and further state: owned private healthcare entities to provide renal/ (i) the number of kidneys and dialysis centres in kidney/nephrology care, including haemodialysis Botswana and their locations; in North West region and other districts such as Kgalagadi to increase access to care. I thank you (ii) the number of those privately owned; and Mr Speaker.

(iii) whether or not Government has any intention to MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary. Tanki Mr establish one in the North West Region. Speaker. As a follow-up, Tona golo fa ga o tlhalose sentle gore wa re go na le eng kwa Letsholathebe, mme ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND e bile gape go na le eng se le ikaelelang go ya go se WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so dira kwa Letsholathebe. O farologanya eng fa gare ga much Mr Speaker. Thank you Honourable Hikuama. dilo tse pedi tse? Sabobedi, wa re go na le centre nngwe The Government of Botswana has invested heavily in kwa Letsholathebe, rona ba re tswang teng kwa North the treatment of patients with chronic kidney disease by West, re itse e seyo. Labofelo centre eo e alafa motho, availing all the modalities of kidney replacement therapy. e ne e le leng? Centre eo e tsamaisiwa ke specialist sefe These include Peritoneal Dialysis, Haemodialysis and ka gore ga re na specialists kwa Letsholathebe tse di Kidney Transplantation. amanang le bolwetse jo? A ba fofa ba tswa kwano ba ya kwa Letsholathebe, ba ya go tsamaisa clinic teng ba bo Peritoneal Dialysis is a home-based therapy wherein the ba boela kwano kana jang? patient self-administers therapy at home and is offered at the major referral and district public hospitals in the MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr country, including Letsholathebe II Memorial Hospital. Speaker. Ke ne ke bua ke re kwa Letsholathebe re na le mo gotweng Peritoneal Dialysis. Ga se balwetse Kidney Transplantation services are offered through botlhe ba ba alafiwang ka mofuta one o, o go dirisiwang Princess Marina Hospital (PMH) with the kidney mala, the stomach, go leka go thusa kidney. Peritoneal transplantation surgeries done in India. However, Dialysis is a home-based therapy wherein the patient haemodialysis services are offered to Batswana on an self-administers therapy at home, and it is offered at outsourced basis. Currently countrywide, there are 478 the major referral and district public hospitals in the patients on chronic haemodialysis, 152 on peritoneal country, tse di tsenyang Letsholathebe. dialysis and 35 post kidney transplantation. Jaanong se re buisanang le private companies tse di teng mo gae, ke haemodialysis. There is what is called (i) Nephrology services/kidney services are offered Peritoneal Dialysis, which uses mmele wa gago go leka at the three health facilities in Botswana. The go thusa kidney go bereka. Haemodialysis is where we two main referral hospitals namely, Nyangabgwe introduce an artificial kidney go leka go thusa your and Princess Marina Hospitals; as well as system e e dirwang under specialist care. Gongwe fa Letsholathebe Hospital. Tshere a ne a le teng, o ne a ka leka go ba tlhalosetsa (ii) There are six privately owned haemodialysis botoka foo. Ke yone e e leng gore ga e yo, e re buisanang services in the country. These are: le ba ba ikemetseng gore ba tle go thusa. Ke tsaya gore ke yone karabo ya me Mr Speaker. Ga go na sepe se se • Tati Riverside Hospital in Francistown fetang foo. Ke a leboga.

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. MR MATHOOTHE: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Ke ne ke eme ke santse ke bua ka meepo… a ke a utlwala MR SPEAKER: The time is up. Question nine and Mr Chairperson? the following ones will go to the next day. There is a question without notice. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Mathoothe, you have the floor. QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE MR MATHOOTHE: Ke ne ke eme ke santse ke bua COVID-19 INTERRUPTIONS ON PROVISION ka meepo e e itebagantseng le go epa magala. Kana OF HEALTH SERVICES thulaganyo e ya go epa magala e kete e setse e fetilwe ke nako. Mafatshe a setse a tsamaela kwa go direng MR O. REGOENG (MOLEPOLOLE NORTH): renewable energy, go lebelela sources tse di renewable asked the Minister of Health and Wellness to apprise gona le magala. Fa ke bua jaana go na le ba Shumba this Honourable House on: Coal, ba ba filweng prospecting licence around meraka (i) the number of nurses and doctors in Botswana ya bo Lechana, Phikwane le Shalakwe. Ba maikaelelo a who on account of COVID-19 pandemic related bone e leng go bula mine wa magala and then ba bo ba complications have been in and out of isolation, dira power station. Fa o lebelela, go botoka thata gore re quarantine, sick-leave and/or died between le lefatshe la Botswana gongwe re tsamaeleng thata kwa December 2020 and to date; go lebeng tse di ka re tlisetsang, jaaka ke ne ke bua ka renewable energy, e e akaretsang solar le biomass jaaka (ii) how has this affected public health service delivery Honourable Manake a ne a bua, ka gore e ya magala e in our health facilities; and setse e siilwe ke nako. Tse dingwe tse re tshwanetseng gore gongwe re di lebelele, ra bona gore jaaka go na (iii) any intervention measures in place to avert or le uranium kwa Serule, a mme re ka se ke ra dira mo mitigate any possible interruptions, caused by gotweng ke nuclear generated electricity. Tsone ke tse e COVID-19 phenomenon on smooth provision of leng gore fa motlakase wa teng o setse o dirwa, ga gona health services in all public health facilities. carbon epe e e tswang. Jaanong, ke dingwe tse e leng Later Date. gore we need to move towards go dira dilo tsa mofuta o o ntseng jalo, ka gore ga re ka ke ra kgotlela tikologo. Fa e MR SPEAKER: Let us move on to the Budget. le gore re santse re ikamile mo go reng re lebile magala, mafatshe one a setse a gatela kwa pele. La bofelo re tlaa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga re feleletse tse pedi fitlhela e le gore lefatshe ba Botswana go butswe mines tse Mr Speaker? tsa magala gongwe le gongwe, mme re sena market. MR SPEAKER: O le mang wena? …(Inaudible)… Kwa bofelong re fitlhele e le gorewe have compromised lefatshe la temo. Fa ke ne ke bua ka ba Shumba Coal ba ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE ke tsayang gore e tlaa re mo dikarabong Tona a tle a fete (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) ka bone, gompieno jaana ba lwa le balemi ba batla go ba tseela lefatshe gore ba tle ba ye go dira one mine wa APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, magala. O kgona go bona gore barui ba ya go felela go 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) sena kwa ba ruelang teng. Jaaka gompieno e le gore ba ORGANISATION 1000 -MINISTRY ba nang le didiba kwa merakeng, ga ba kgone go dira OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN ditshingwana tse ba ka lemelang dikgomo. Fa go tla TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY mine wa magala, go tlaabo gotwe lefatshe leo le ka le SECURITY ba neela. Ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng go di sekaseka, gore a mme ga re a neela ba le bantsinyana mo nakong (Resumed Debate) ya gompieno.

MR CHAIRPERSON (MR SKELEMANI): Mo gongwe gape mo re tshwanetseng go go lebelela ke Honourable Members, we continue with the debate and gore, o fitlhela e kete dikompone tse di batlang to mine I will call upon the Minister to reply to the debate at whatever the mineral they want to mine, ba tsamaya ba 15:10. The question will be put at 15:40. Honourable dira prospecting tse dintsi, ba tshwara lefatshe. Go tswa Mathoothe was on the floor. fa ke gone ba bo ba tswela kwa mafatsheng a mangwe ba

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re ba ya go kopa madi. Tona o tshwanetse go sekaseka, bone. Dikompone tse when they cost, o fitlhela e kete ka gore jaanong e kete batho ba gamble ka lefatshe la gongwe they cost ka prices tse dintsi to BPC, mme e rona. O fitlhela dikompone di tla fela di sena madi, ba bo that cost e felela e fetela kwa Batswaneng ba ba bo ba ya go kgoreletsa ba ba neng ba ka develop. E bo tsenyang motlakase. Fa go ne gotwe Batswana ba e re fa ba sena go neelwa these prospecting licenses, ba ithekele transformer, ba ne ba ya go reka ya madi a a bo ba siana ba re ba ya go senka madi. Tona dilo tse a di kwa tlase. Fela ka gore prices tsa teng are controlled lebelele ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, ka gore re tlaa fitlhela ke dikompone which are listed under BPC, go raya e le gore re jelwe ntsoma, re neetse batho to mine. gore madi a felela a nna kwa godimo. Go bo go nna Gape mo gongwe o fitlhela e le gore, le lone lefatshe thata gore fa Batswana ba batla go tsenya motlakase le ba tlaabong ba le neelwa, jaaka ke ne ke bua ka ba kwa masimo, quotations tsa teng di ya kwa godimo. Shumba ba ba batlang le lefatshe le le ntsi la to mine le Tona o tshwanetse go lebelela dikgang tse tsa costing, go aga power station, fa ba sena go neelwa o fitlhela e a lebelele dikompone tseo gore a mme ba mo fa prices le gore kwa bofelong fa gotwe ba bule mine, ba tsenya tse di siameng. Ke dikgang tse re kopanang le tsone le diphologolo. Ba rua le diphologolo, o bo o ipotse fa re ntse re tsamaya mo kgaolong. Golo moo ke gone gore lefatshe le le kanakana le re ba le neetseng, ba bo mo go tlaa felelang go kokonela Batswana, dikompone ba ya go rua diphologolo, mme lefatshe le tserwe mo tse di tsenyang motlakase tse di felela di nna le madi a baleming ba ba neng ba batla go rua dikgomo, jaanong mantsi, mme Batswana ka fa ba kokonelwa. Fa ba ne ba o bona diphologolo. E le gore ke Bojanala, ga ba sa ka lebelela gore ka fa ba fang BPC prices ka teng ba ba tlhole ba mine, jaanong ba kgoreleditse batho go lema fa tse di rileng, go ne go ka dira gore Batswana ba se ka ba tsentse bojanala mo teng. Ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng ba kokonelwa thata. go di leba. Dingwe tse di leng teng ke gore, fa motlakase o ntse o MR TSHERE: Elucidation. Thank you Mr Chairperson. isiwa kwa dikgaolong, go botlhokwa thata gore re se ka Ke a go tlatsa Honourable Mathoothe ka kgang ya solar ra fitlhela e re fa motlakase o tswa go tsenngwa ka madi energy. Right now re bua ka a little under 10 per cent a mantsi mo motseng, go bo go na le ba mo motseng oo of our generating capacity in terms of solar, mme ke a ntlha e nngwe ba gotweng they are not on the map. Ba bona gore mo pegong e go supa gore Coal Bed Methane tshwanetse go rulaganya gore ka dinako tse tsotlhe ba le Tlou Energy ba leka go fiwa konteraka e. Kana Coal atolosa motlakase, re se ka ra tlhola re iphitlhela go na Bed Methane kwa ke boneng e dirisiwa teng, e dirisiwa le ba ba seyong on the map. Fa motlakase o atolositswe, together with solar, it is a hybrid ya solar generating go ka dira gore go nne le batho ba le bantsi ba ba ka systems incorporated with Coal Bed Methane. Fa kgonang go reka motlakase gore BPC e tle e boelwe. o bona e le gore we are generating with Coal Bed Re se ka ra fitlhela go tserwe madi a mantsi gotwe go Methane alone, I do not know whether we will reach gokelwa motse, mme bangwe mo teng go bo go sena ka that capacity. Ke tsaya gore ga re ise re tlhwaafale mo fa ba ka thusegang ka teng. Ke dingwe tsa dikgang tse kgannyeng e ya to generate motlakase, re santse re bua ka rooftop solar PVs and stuff. I thank you very much Tona a tshwanetseng go di lebelela, a fitlhelele gore fa for raising those concerns. Thank you. re ne re rile re thusa motse ka motlakase, ba botlhe ba bo ba na le tshwanelo ya gore le bone ba ka kgona to MR MATHOOTHE: Thank you mokaulengwe. Re connect... tshwanetse ra tsosa dinao, ka gore bangwe ba farmers ba ke ba boneng, ba ne ba kgona gore ba dirise the MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable combination ya solar and wind energy, tsotlhe in the Mathoothe, Honourable Thiite. farm golo go le gongwefela. O kgona go bona gore jaanong re tshwanetse ra pagamela ra ya kwa pele. Kana MR THIITE (GHANZI NORTH): Thank you Mr mathata a teng ke gore, magala one a felela a tlogela Speaker. Mma ke tseye nako e Mr Speaker ke akgele lefatshe la rona e le mesima, mme fa re sianela kwa re mo lephateng le la energy. Ke re fela ka bokhutshwane ka kgona go babalela lefatshe la rona. ke leboge Batlotlegi Mapalamente gore ba bo ba nthotloeditse, ke kgonne go ya kwa gae, ke kgonne Nngwe ya dikgang e ke neng ke batla go e supa gore go fitlha, e bile le matshediso ke a bone. Ke lebogela Tona a e lebelele, ke dingwe tsa dikompone tse di melaetsa e le e kwadileng le e le e rometseng ka ditsela tsenyang motlakase, tse gongwe e leng tsone di thusang tse di farologanyeng. I thank you Members of Parliament Botswana Power Corporation (BPC), di tlhophilwe ke for your support.

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Mr Speaker, ke a goroga mme ke tlaa leka gore ke gotwe Qabo, le bone fela jalo kwa kgaolong ga ba na kgome dintlha tse di botlhokwa thata tse Tona a buileng motlakase. Re a itse gore dikago tsa Puso di teng koo ka tsone. Gongwe fela ke simolole ka gore energy ke tse e leng gore ka one mothale o o dirisitsweng ke bone selo se se botlhokwatlhokwa thata mo lefatsheng la ba mall wa River Walk, go ka kgonagala gore ka gore rona. Re iponetse gone gore re nale dingwaganyana tse re a itse gore re nale maranyane a mantsi kwa kgaolong di mmalwanyana go nna go nale bone bo load shedding, ya rona, a e leng gore a ka re fa tshono ya go ka dira e re motlakase o kgaogile metsi le one a sa goroge kwa motlakase re o fetlha ka maranyane. Re kgone go bona bathong. Diemo tse go botlhokwa gore Minister a di gore ditshono tse le tsone di nna available for batho ba emele ka dinao a bone gore re dira jang gore re nne le dikgaolo tsa rona tse di tshwanang le tsone tsa bo Qabo. motlakase o o lekaneng e bile gongwe re bo re o romele kwa ntle (export). Import bill ya rona ya motlakase le Ke batla gore ke tsene mo kgannyeng Mr Speaker, ya yone e kwa godimo, ke dingwe tsa dilo tse e leng gore moepo o mosha o o tlaabong o bulwa kwa Ghanzi. Fa re tshwanetse gongwe re di lebe thata. ke lebelela pego ya ga Tona le fa ke sa e leba thata ka ke ne ke goroga, ke lemoga gore ga ke a utlwa a bua mo go Gongwe ke tshwaele ka gore ke utlwa Minister a tseneletseng ka moepo o. Kana mme fa o ka ela tlhoko, supa gore dikago tse di tshwanang le mall wa Airport kgaolo e tshwana e ya Ghanzi e tlaabo e le lantlha go tla Junction ba kgonne gore ba itirele motlakase ka moepo, ke lantlha mo ditsong, mme e se Ghanzi fela le maranyane. Motho a bo a ka ipotsa gore fa e le gore dikgaolo tse di dikologileng Ghanzi. Go a go bontsha a company e ka kgona gore e fitlhelele go ntsha gore golo mo kana batho ba Ghanzi go raya gore bontsi motlakase jaana ka maranyane, a mme rona re le Puso jwa bone ka gore they have not been exposed to a mining re itse gore re na le dikago tsa Puso tse mo nakong ya environment, re ya go nna le gore jaanong batho fa ba gompieno re ikaelelang go di dira; re ikaelela go aga hirwa, batho ba rona e bo e le gore gongwe ke babogedi dikole le clinics tse di ntšha, re ikaelela to maintain ka gore ga ba na dikitso tse e leng gore they have acquired dikole le clinics tse di kgologolo. Potso e ka nna gore in a mining environment. Tona o tsweletse a buisanya a mme Minister, o setse a buisantse le ba ba amanang jang le batho ba mine go bona gore go ka diragala eng le dikago gongwe bone ba infrastructure, le maphata a gore le kgone le letlelele gore batho mo kgaolong ya mangwe gore seemo se le sone se kgone go diragala mo Ghanzi ba kgone gore le bone e nne batsaya-karolo fa dikagong tsa ga Goromente, re kgone go fokotsa tiriso go tla mo meberekong. Mo nakong ya gompieno re setse bokete ya motlakase o o dirisiwang mo dikoleng le mo re bona ditirelo fale le fale tsa moepo go ipaakanya, di dipateleng jalojalo. Gongwe go ka re fokoletsa, prices a simologa mme bontsi jwa nako re bona gore go tla tsa motlakase le tsone di ka felela di ya kwa tlase. Tona e le dikompone tse di tswang kwa ntle fela jaanong kgang e o tshwanetse a e lebelele fela thata, re simolole banni ba Ghanzi ke babogedi. Ke re Tona ke batla gore gore re dire program ya mofuta o mo dikagong tse Puso kgang e, o e bue thata, banni ba Ghanzi ba tlaabo ba go e tlaa tswelelang e di aga e bile re se ka ra emela nako e reeditse gompieno jaaka o tlaabo o araba kgang e gore e tlang, re simolole fela financial yearyone e. wa re o dira jang gore o ye go ba tsenya mo letsenong le la mmereko mo moepong one wa Ghanzi. Se sengwe Ke ne ke re gongwe ke tsene mo kgannyeng ya dikgaolo kwa ntle ga mebereko Honourable Minister, batlotlegi tse di tshwanang le tsone tsa rona jaaka kwa motsaneng ba ntse ba bua ka meepo e e farologanyeng, jaaka bo wa Kuke go sena motlakase mo motseng. Kana mme ga Debswana, meepo yotlhe ka go farologana. Mines have gona motlakase mme mine o gorogile kwa Kuke, there got a more defined economic activitye e leng gore small is a grid e e agiwang e e tswang gone kwa Morupule B, companies, small businesses di ka boelwa ka go isa tiro e e leng gore le yone batho ba Kuke ke babogedi fela ba gone koo. Kgang ke gone gore seabe sa dikompone e bona e feta fa godimo ga bone e ya gone kwa moepong tsa mo gae tsa bana, Tona le moepo fa ba buisanya ka kwa Ghanzi. Ke re Tona o thusa jang? A motsana wa nna ga a ise a ntaletse meeting ope le ba moepo, fa ba Kuke o tlaa thusiwa ka gore re a itse gore jaaka moepo buisanya ka go tla go thusa batho ba Ghanzi ka go ntsha o gorogile mo Kuke jaana, go ya go nna le expansion ditirelo le businesses gore maikaelelo e tlaa nna eng go e e yang go tlhokafala. Gongwe batho ba Kuke ba nne bona gore bana ba Ghanzi, dikgaolo tsa Ghanzi go ya le tshono ya gore motlakase o ba gorogele ba kgone to go tsena kwa bo Kang go ya kwa bo Ghanzi South go provide services ba kgone go nna le letseno la activities ya fela gone kwa bo Toteng gore re ya go dira jang mo tse di tlaabong di diragala kwa moepong. Ke eletsa go dikgaolong tsa tikologo eo gore re bone gore businesses supa gore re nale motsana o mongwe gape o o bidiwang tsa Ghanzi le tsone they benefit Tona?

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Ke batla gore ke tsenelele gape mo kgannyeng ya gore project yone e ya go tlisa fuel from Namibia, mme farmers Tona, farmers tsa Ghanzi ba nale dikgang private sector yone e amogele fuel storage. I thank you gongwe dikgwetlho tse ba di itemogelang, moepo o fa Mr Chairperson. e sale o goroga ba dumela gore dilo tse di epiwang ke moepo di boteng thata, didiba tsa bone ka gore water MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable Thiite. table kwa Ghanzi e ntse e le shallow, e feletse e le gore Honourable Members, it is now time to call upon the farmers tsa Ghanzi le tsone jaanong ba itemogela gore Honourable Minister to reply to the debate. didiba tsa bone di a kgala. Gore seemo se Tona keletso MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN ya rona ke gore moepo o tlisa ditlhabololo mme ga re TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR eletse gore e bo e le gore moepo jaanong gongwe letseno MOAGI): Ke a go leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke leboge le batho ba ba ntseng ba dira mohama wa agriculture e le batlotlegi thata fela gore ba tlile ka ditshwaelo tse di bo e le gore le tlaa amiwa ke moepo. Dilo tseo di batla maleba. Ba ba sa kgonang go tshwaela, ke dumela gore gore di buisiwe thata Tona. ke ka ntlha ya nako. Ke tlaa leka go di tsaya ka bongwe Sa bofelo se ke neng ke batla go bua ka sone gongwe ke ka bongwe kana ke di soboka fa go kgonegang teng, ke bua ka import bill, Tona maloba ke buile in the response taboge le tsone ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. ya Budget Speech ka the dry port e e kwa Namibia. Bontsi jwa batlotlegi ba ne ba bua ka dilo tse di bapileng. Fa re ka leba lefatshe le tshwana le South Africa le Bontsi jwa dilo tse ba buang ka tsone di setse di diragala. bone fela jalo ba tsaya fuel ya bone kwa mafatsheng Gongwe sebe sa phiri fela ke gore tota ga re ise re di ise a a kwa ntle ba e tlisa ka sekepe and then dock gone kwa bathong ka gore mesepele e ntse e sa kgonege ka kwa bo Durban, ba bo ba tsaya fuel eo mo dikepeng, bontsi, mme re tlaa leka tse dingwe tsa maranyane gore ba e tsamaisa le lefatshe la South Africa ka pipelines; re bone gore batho ba itse ka information e. tse dingwe they are under ground, tse dingwe they are on the surface, mme kana you would realise gore South Motlotlegi Saleshando o buile thata ka solar mme a supa Africa fela ... around 28 000 kilometres on fuel pipe e jalo jaaka ba bangwe gore re bona gore solar rooftop e e tsayang fuel e e phatlalatsa around the country. Nako simolotse mo buildings, mme e bile fa di ka atologela e gorogile Tona, ke lebogela gore o batla go dira fuel kwa buildings tsa ga Goromente go ka nna botoka thata. storage kwa kgaolong ya me, mme I feel gore this is not Ke maikaelelo le maikemisetso e bile ke sengwe se re a sustainable project. The sustainable project would be tlaa se atumetsang kwa Khuduthamageng gore e tle e re to bring fuel through pipe from Walvis Bay, go tlaa dira jaaka batlotlegi ba ntse ba supa tse e leng dikago, bogolo gore fuel e nne cheap mo lefatsheng, and in the long thata jang di tshwana le dipatela le dikole, bogolo thata run re tlaa felela re kgona gore le rona re brand fuel kwa tengnyanateng kana kwa dikgaolong tse di senang ya rona. Mo nakong ya gompieno jaaka Honourable ditlamelo tse dintsi, re bo re kgona gore dilo tse di bo Minister Manake a ne a bua kgantele, o supile gore go di dirwa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Monate wa tsone ke nale bone British Petroleum e e leng gore gompieno ke gore motlakase o o tlaabong o fetile selekanyo se ba o Puma go nale bo Total, it is a French company, go nale tlhokang, o ka kgona go tsenngwa mo grid, go bo go bo Engen, South African company, bo Caltex, and o a nna le moputso go tswa kwa BPC, e leng kompone ya itse gore gone jaana diteraka tsotlhe tse di tlisang fuel go motlakase. Jaanong ba ka bua gore motlakasenyana o tswa kwa South Africa ga se tsa Batswana. Maloba ke o mo godimo ga disenke ke wa eng? Itseng gore fa re ne ke etetse company e nngwe e e tsamaisang fuel mo le customers re le bantsi jaana, go na le ba domestic, lefatsheng la Botswana, ga ke na go bua ka leina, ke ba commercial, industrial jalojalo. Mongwe le mongwe o botsa gore ba nale diteraka tse kae, ba supile gore bone hula fa a golegeletsweng teng. Ka jalo, ba ba tlaabong fela ba le nosi, ba nale over 300 trucks. Jaanong re ya ba kgona go itirela rooftop, a ke kwa lelwapeng kana go tlhama jang mebereko re sa kgone go tla ka projects madirelo, re a ba rotloetsa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo ka tse e leng gore they are sustainable? Jaanong nna ke ne gore gotlhe mo go tlaabo go ntse go add go thusa the ke re Tona fela a sekaseke mo projects tse di padileng national grid. tse e leng gore gongwe bo next financial year Puso e ikaelela gore private sector e kgone go tsenya letsogo Rre a bua gape ka kgang ya BCL. Ke tlaa leka go e tsaya mo go tsone, gore re kgone go tlhama a sustainable le ba bangwe ba ba neng ba ntse ba e bua, gore e se ka economy, re kgone go tlhama mebereko. Ke kopa gore ya tloga ya fetoga Kimberly kwa e leng gore jaanong Tona a lebe thata a bone gore a mme o ka se ke a dire toropo e tlaabo e kete ke sepoko jaaka go tle go bolelwe.

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Rra, ke one maikaelelo jaaka o bona re rile ee, go ka in the industries tse tsa mining le yone beef jaaka o ne tswa go tsere lebaka gore go bonwe yo o tlaa tlang go o o bolela. Ke go tlhomamisetse gore re setse re na le simolodisa. Go botoka gore o tsamaye ka dikgato sentle, thulaganyo le dipuisanyo le ba mines tse, tse e tlaa reng e se ka ya tloga ya ne e kete o dira a test tube test. O e morago ga Palamente jaaka e tlaabo e tswala ka April, neele sebaka, boitseanape bo lebe se ba batlang go se ke bo ke ya senamana gore re ye go bona gore a dilo leba, e bo e le gore ba tlaabo ba re neela lenaneo le le tse mme di tsena mo tirisong jaaka re ntse re buisana tsepameng la gore re ya go simolola ka se le se gore re gore ba ba kopileng go dira dikgwebo tse di potlana are tle re kgone go tsweledisa tseo. supported sentle ke mine, go rekwa mo go bone. E se ka ya re o sena go bula butchery e bo e le gore go tsewa 60 Fa e le gore go na le assets dingwe kwa BCL, ke e tsaya kilograms fela ya nama mo bekeng. ka bophara, BCL Group of Companies, e akareditse le bo Tati jalo, tse di tlaabong di sa tsewa ke yo o a bong a Ke ntse ke taboga le tsone jalo rra, kana re mo lenyalong sekaseka, botlhe ba ba tlaabong ba le teng ba ka nna le le De Beers jaaka o buile, mme e bile 15 per cent yo tshono eo ya gore ba bo ba tsaya se se setseng ba kgone re leng mo go ene yo, ga se gore o monnye. Jaanong go se dirisa, jaaka go ne go ntse go nankolwa tse dingwe ra re, gape le fa go ntse jaana, these are commercial tse ke tlaa di buang fa ke ntse ke tsweletse, gore ba tle arrangements tse e leng gore ga o ka ke wa tsaya mae a ba kgone gore ba tsholetse toropo ya Selebi Phikwe, e gago otlhe o bo o a baya mo mothong a le mongwela, o boele sentle mo seemong le yone ya Francistown kwa tla o itshadisetsa gore fa go na le dipe tse di sa tsamayeng bo Tati. sentle, o se ka wa fitlhela o tsentse maoto otlhe mo teng. So, sengwe le sengwe se se diragalang kwa De Beers Le tlaa gakologelwa gore re na le lekalana le lengwe se a re ama e bile re a benefit mo go sone kana re nna gape mo ga Goromente le bidiwa Special Economic le seabe mo go sone. Jaaka le batho ba rona ba ntse ba Zones Authority (SEZA) that has identified Selebi ile koo, ga ke ka ke ka ba bua ka maina, ba nna koo, ba Phikwe gore e ka nna a base metal hub, gore tsotlhe tse ithuta ka kgang ya synthetics ba reng. Ba setse ba bone di dirang le base metals, bo kopore jalo le tse dingwe, ba ... (interruptions)... ba a re bolelela gore go diragala eng bo ba kgona gore ba dire tse tsotlhe tse di ka diragalang ka synthetics. So, ke tsone dikgang tse di ntseng jalo. ka koo, whether they are smelted or refined, kana eng Re dumalana le wena sentle; re oketsa diamond cutting fela tse e tlaabong e le value add activities mo teng ga and polishing ka gore re setse re kile ra ya kwa bo base metal hub eo. Francistown has been identified as a mining logistics hub. Tsotlhe tsa meepo le tsone di France mo tshimologong ya ngwaga o o neng o feta ole tlaabo di lebilwe jalo jaaka gauta le kopore tse di kwa wa 2020. Re ne re na le sekole se se neng se ruta bana ba Francistown jalojalo. Logistics ya teng e bo e thusa rona cutting and polishing fa Oodi. Re batla go busetsa jaaka re na le borogo jo bosha kwa Kazungula, jo bo dikgang tse di ntseng jalo. Re buisanya le ba bangwe ba tlaabong bo tsamaisana le tsone tse di tlaabong di tswa bo H & A gore le bone ba kgone gore ba re rute, ba tle go ka koo jaaka bo soda ash jalojalo. tlhoma dikole tse di dirang jalo mo gae, ba digitise ba bo ba plan diteemane tsa rona pele ga di rekisiwa. A supa gore mine wa Toteng o se ka wa tloga wa nna jaaka mines tse dingwe. Ee, ke maikalelo gore jaaka MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Healy and o tswa fela kwa Toteng jaana… tota e bile in fact, go Honourable Hikuama are requesting for clarification. simolola fela kwa dikgaolong tsele tsa bo Thakadu, bo MR MOAGI: A ga ke taboge le tsone pele Honourable Mowana go fetela kwa Maun, Toteng le Ghanzi, it is Chairperson ke tle ke kgone go fetsa? a copper district. Jaanong re batla gore moo go se ka ga ba ga nna le sepe se se ka tshwenyang development MR CHAIRPERSON: It is your chance. ya mining le tse di tlaa tlang kwa morago ga mining jalo, tsa beneficiation. Re dira jalo ka gore ba BPC le MR MOAGI: Thank you. E ntse fela jalo. Re na le bone ba setse ba isitse motlakase o o tlaa thusang area ba Ministry of Trade le ba SEZA, we are looking at eo gore mines tseo di se ka tsa tlhaela motlakase. Any the multi-commodity centre e re tlaabong re lebile other industry that is springing up, di se ka tsa tlhaela ditswammung tsa rona gore re biletse batho ka kwano motlakase. Project e e setse e wetse, and it will be jaaka re ne re ntse re bitsa ka diteemane. Ee, re ka e commissioned mo dikgweding tse di tlang tse. atolosa le tse dingwe tse di tlaabong di le teng; a ke gauta, thobo kana beef ya rona, gore dilo tse di direlwe Ke utlwile ka letshwenyego le le teng kwa, le o kareng mo Botswana, di tlhamele Batswana ba rona ditiro, e bo banni ba koo ga go na sepe se ba se bonang se se tswang e le gore tse tsotlhe di araba economic diversification.

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Batlotlegi ba bangwe ba nna ba tswelela, Honourable jalo. Ke gone mo re tlaabong re kgona gore le bone Manake le bo Honourable Thiite jalo bua ka fuel bo Agro-Zambezi, re tsene kwa go bone re dire se se pipelines. Bagaetsho, dilo di ntse di teng, e bile le tlhokafalang. private sector e a rotloediwa gore tlang ka tsone le di diragatse mo Botswana. Ga se gore tsotlhe fela di tlaabo Technologies tse di kwa Debswana; kana nngwe le di lebile mo go Goromente gore a di dire. Nnyaa, re nngwe ya dikompone, e na le model e e batlang go rotloetsa private sector gore fuel storages di tlaa dirwa bereka ka one. Therefore, a high volume producer as ka bo Public Private Partnerships (PPPs) jaaka go ntse Debswana, ga e batle gore e restrict to maybe gore bone go bolelwa, e bile they are at an advanced stage. African ba batla diteemane tse di kima fela. Debswana le yone Legal Support Facility (ALSF) ke yone transactional e na le diteemane tse di kima which it recovers. They advisor mo go dikgannyeng tse. E tlaa thusa gore re are not reporting on them because they are not forced structure bills tsa teng sentle gape re dire agreements tsa to, whereas Lucara e tshwanetse to report as a listed teng sentle ka gore dingwe tsa dilo ke tse di gorogang ka company. That is why o bona Lucara yone e report kwano mme re batla gore opportunity e nne ya Batswana. diteemane tsa yone but large diamonds are recovered at The reason why we are looking for a 50 per cent import Debswana ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. mandate ya Botswana Oil ke gore it is not operating Opportunities tsa agricultural diversification kana on the retail space. So, ga e ka ke ya compete le ope. tourism, they are most welcome. Ke sone se re se There is no issue about that. Jaanong re raya gore fa e le buang re re, a e re re sena go nna re tsaya madi ka Botswana Oil, company ya Setswana ya Botswana, ke diteemane, a mangwe a phatlalale le lefatshe, re tle re yone e re kgonang gore re ba reye re re nnyaa, ga o reke bone opportunity teng, especially le fa re bua ka bo food sepe mo go ope except mo Batswaneng. Batswana ba security. So ke dumalana le models tse di ntseng jalo. ya go tsaya trucks, bone bo 300 ba ba neng ba bolelwa E bile gape nngwe ya dikakanyetso ke gore, jaaka fa bao, ke bone ba ba tlaabong ba tshotswe ke Batswana, go dirwa the rationalisation of State-Owned Enterprises ba tsaya fuel ya Botswana Oil. (SOEs) jalojalo, sengwe se ka kopiwa (copy) kwa Filling stations tsa Setswana tse di indigenous branded, Debswana e le model wa bone gore ba ne ba dira dilo le tsone di tlaabo di tswa gone fa. Ke sone se o bonang jang, so that it can accrue or be used by rationalised re batla that import mandate. SOEs, re tle re ye kgakala. Meepo bagaetsho e ama the farmers jaaka kwa bo Medie Ya fuel pipeline; re setse re ntse re na le tirisanyo-mmogo kwa kae. Kana sengwe le sengwe re tshwanetse go leba le mafatshe a tshwana le bo Namibia le Mozambique. gore a mme e rile fa ba tla go tsena mo kgaolong eo, Re lebile mo go reng a proposals di tle, tse di tlaabong Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA), management di tlisa tsone fuel pipelines tseo gore di tle di tsene mo plan kgotsa social licence to operate di ne di reng gore lefatsheng mo. Ke dumalana le gore they will augment di arabe mathata a the farmers kgotsa the community e the storage capacity e re nang le yone ka kwano. a bong e le mo go bone. So ke dingwe tse fa re ntse re etela meepo, re a di tlhola, re bo re bona gore re bolelela Indeed, that is why we are partnering with the Ministry ba meepo gore nnyaa, golo fa o kare ga le dire ka fa le of Agricultural Development and Food Security in dumalaneng le batho le molao ka teng. Ke gone then terms of the Department of Agricultural Research le we take them to task. Le bone ba Department of Mines, bo University of Botswana (UB) gore re tle re kgone fa ba dira their periodic inspections, ba a bo ba lebile to commercialise dilo tse. Re buile thata le maabane fa dikgang tse di ntseng jaana. go buiwa ka Ministry of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology (MoTE), re ne re bua ka Re bua thata ka value added activities bagaetsho, go commercialisation of research findings gore re se ka ra ntse jalo. Le mo speech ke buile ka the feasibility study dira research fela, e re fa re sena go nna re research, e e tlaabong e fela ka September ya Botswana Ash a bo e le gore dilo di ema fela mo desk moo. Jaanong (BotAsh), e ba lebileng value chain activities tse di ka we need to bring this up to the market gore re tle re tswang koo, mostly bo potash, fertilizer, salt, things like kgone gore bo bio-fuel ba e leng gore re a ba netla, ba that. Tse gape go nang le review ya the agreements tse diragale. These are opportunities for the private sector, di teng between the 50/50 shareholders gore go bonwe youth companies and for Batswana. Jaanong matsana gore dipe jaanong tse di salang mo Botswana, di se ka ke gore a phatlalale, a tsamaye le lefatshe gore a neele tsa tlhola di ntse di fetela kwa, ke dife. Ke dilo tse di dilo tse banana gore ba ye go di dira ka tsela e e ntseng tsweletseng, re batla go di dira.

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Botswana Geoscience Institute le yone e dirile go le HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go to chat option. gontsi thata. It has availed information free of charge ka the granites, clays, the shales kwa bo Mogobane MR CHAIRPERSON: Yes. tse e leng gore di teng. Even the lumps on granite, ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke yone EVM e le e tsone tse e leng gore you will find prospective licences batlang yone eo. E tlile go dira fela jalo…(Inaudible)… applications which are geared towards this gore batho bao ba ka kgona go dirisa dikgang tse di … MR MOAGI: Mr Chairperson, a go a utlwala jaanong? (Interruptions)…for projects dingwe to be delivered. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ee, re a go utlwa, Go botoka gore at the end of the day, mme e bo di le tswelela. delivered. Ke itse gore Rre Molebatsi o buile thata ka projects that are not delivered …(Interruptions)…ke MR MOAGI: Ke tswelela jalo ke re, re buseditse gore kana tse a neng a bua ka tsone, jaanong di setse di tenders tse di ntseng jalo kwa morago gore di tsewe ke le mo tirisong. Gridline projects, nngwe ya tsone e bile Batswana. e kwa Bobonong e setse e ntse e agiwa, tender ya teng is awarded. Two by 50 megawatts (MW) adjudication e Battery minerals, manganese e e potielwang kwa Otse, fedile …(Interruptions)… e nngwe kwa Kgwakgwe, mine wa teng le one o tlaa nna gautshwane thata. Ke teng kwa e leng gore value added MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, you are activities tsa teng e tlaabo e le gone go dira batteries lost. Honourable Moagi! from manganese, cobalt tse di teng. Already research on vanadium site has also been completed. …Silence… Honourable Keo…(Interruptions)… ka bo nosi HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, I ...(Interruptions)… Jaanong… cannot raise my hand here. ...Silence... MR CHAIRPERSON: You can speak Honourable Minister. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Which Minister? MR MOAGI: …Ke kompone fela e e nang le batsadi ba ba nang le thoto ya madi e e tlaa thusang gore ba MR CHAIRPERSON: The very right Honourable tswelele ...(Interruptions)… technology ya kwa China Minister holding the floor; Honourable Moagi. kwa with a market cap of over U$70 billion. Ke dilo HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, I want tse e leng gore ga di na di re ...(Interruptions)…Ke ne to seek for clarification, but I cannot raise my hand, it ke supa gore re itse kgang ya bo housing, schooling… does not give me that option. (Inaudible)… e ne e le retrenchment…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Which means you have no Re ntse …(Inaudible)… batho ba ba kwa Phikwe go option. bona gore go ka dirwa jang gore ba thusiwe. Gape there is Business Rescue Law, e e leng gore e tlaa … HONOURABLE MEMBER: So I cannot raise my (Inaudible)… It is a study which was once funded by this clarification? This is very undemocratic. Government. Re ntse re lebile gore how can we grow HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Laughter!)… industries around Phikwe, gore re tle re kgone go thusa the industry e tswelele pele. A ba e leng baeteledipele MR CHAIRPERSON: Go tulwe o a kwala. I do not le bone ba eme ka dinao …(Inaudible)… thusitswe ke know why you want to raise your hand. Go tulwe kwala. Goromente jalo.

…Silence… The reason why there are some delays mo teng ga negotiations tsa rona, ke gore go na le dilo dingwe HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke one mathata a tse re reng nnyaa, mo go tse ga re boele kwa morago. Electronic Voting Machine (EVM)… Unfortunately, because of the confidentiality Clauses, I MR CHAIRPERSON: O kae …(Inaudible)… cannot reveal them here. Jaaka Honourable Saleshando a ne a bua, ee, go tlaa tla nako ya gore re lebelele gore HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

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tse re ka nnang re di buisana re le bogogi, ke raya jaaka HONOURABLE MEMBER: O tsaya marapo? re le Legislature le ba bangwe, e ka nna dife ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ya pala Fourth Industrial Revolution (4IR). Honourable Letsholathebe; yes, renewable energies ke dumalana le wena we have got so much solar radiation, HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, is it over 3200 megajoules per m², wind speed starting from possible to proceed with the next Minister, so that he can 5 …(Inaudible)… jalojalo go ya kwa pele. Ke tsone tse be allowed to move when it is possible or tomorrow? re di lebelelang, e bile 17 per cent as an initial target MR CHAIRPERSON: Everything is possible... will be surpassed. I have got confidence in that, ga ke tshwenyege thata. Ke go bolelele …(Inaudible)… kwa HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… bo Ghanzi jaaka Honourable Thiite a ntse a bua, they MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kereng. were budgeted for bagaetsho…(Inaudible)… MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL HONOURABLE MEMBER: It is not working out. RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM We can hardly hear anything. (MS KERENG): Thank you Mr Chairperson. I am also MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, I think having some challenges this side, I hope it goes well. Ke the problem is on that side, you are hardly audible. tswelele Mr Chairperson? My advice to you will be …(Inaudible)… move your MR CHAIRPERSON: No, I was checking if you are budget make sure that your full reply is typed and give there. it to Honourable Members, so that they can read and study it and when you get the opportunity you go on MS KERENG: Yes, go na le bothatanyana, but I hope to Botswana Television (BTV) go bolelela Batswana it will work. I am here. gore gatwe lephata la gago la re le tlaa direla Batswana eng, mabapi le dikakgelo tsa Batlotlegi Mapalamente fa MR CHAIRPERSON: Oh! Just one minute. ba go kgwa dikgaba o sena go kopa madi. So, can you HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, since move Honourable Moagi. Minister Kereng’s ministry is close to Parliament, why do you not ask or invite her to come and present from …Silence… your… MR MOAGI: Mr Chairperson. MR MOAGI: May I please finish my deliberation? MR CHAIRPERSON: Yes sir. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs).... …Silence… MR MOAGI: Tla ke feleletse pele tlhe bathong. MR MOAGI: Ga e ise e tokafale? MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Moagi, we just HONOURABLE MEMBER: O a utlwala. want you to move your votes, just move. The rest you will have your papers …(Inaudible)… to give HONOURABLE MEMBER: Bua Lefoko, o a utlwala Honourable Members to read. Are we together? tlhe rra. MR MOAGI: Let me move Mr Chairperson. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Just move, tlogela MR CHAIRPERSON: Move! dinepe. Re a go utlwa. …Silence… HONOURABLE MEMBER: O batla batlhophi ba mmona Lelatisitswe. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O tsamaile.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Moagi! HONOURABLE MEMBER: O kwadile Mr Honourable Moagi! Chairperson on the chat gore o a sutisa (move).

HONOURABLE MEMBER: I will move for him Mr HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le gore o tlhopha a re Chairperson. ‘yes.’

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kereng?

MS KERENG: Yes, Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: If you have problems where you are, you can move into the Main Committee Room and give your presentations here.

MS KERENG: I am coming right away. Thank you Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Moagi!

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)....

MR MOAGI: Mr Chairperson, I do not know whether you can hear me.

MR CHAIRPERSON: I can hear you now, just leave your last paragraph and move your votes.

MR MOAGI: I have moved accordingly Mr Chairperson, that is what I said. Thank you sir.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Now we vote, make sure that we can see you, only Honourable Kereng will vote from here.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: I said I have a problem with my video Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Nnyaa, o a re araba fa re bitsa leina la gago.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: You do not chat.

MR CHAIRPERSON: No, I do not chat, and I do not say.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)...

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Mokgweetsi Eric Keabetswe Masisi Honourable Kgotla Kenneth Autlwetse √ Honourable Mpho Balopi Honourable Yandani Boko Honourable Sam Justice Brooks √ Honourable Honest Buti Billy √ Honourable Dr Edwin Gorataone Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Unity Dow √ Honourable Karabo Socraat Gare √ Honourable Dr Kesitegile Gobotswang √ Honourable Christian Greeff √ Honourable Kainangura Caterpillar Hikuama √ Honourable Liakat Kablay Honourable Kenny Kiniotiro Kapinga √ Honourable Goretetse Kekgonegile √ Honourable Dithapelo Lefoko Keorapetse √ Honourable Phildah Kereng √ Honourable Mmusi Kgafela

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Honourable Tshekedi Stanford Khama Honourable Dr Lemogang Kwape √ Honourable Leepetswe Lesedi √ Honourable Sethomo Lelatisitswe √ Honourable Aubrey Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Douglas Letsholathebe √ Honourable Thapelo Letsholo √ Honourable Friction Tshoganetso Leuwe √ Honourable Taolo Boipuso Lucas Honourable Polson Majaga √ Honourable Nnaniki Wilhemina Tebogo √ Makwinja Honourable Beauty Manake √

Honourable Tumisang Mangwegape-Healy √ Honourable Mathoothe √ Honourable Dr Thapelo Matsheka Honourable Wynter Boipuso Mmolotsi √ Honourable Kagiso Thomas Mmusi √ Honourable Simon Nkosana Moabi √ Honourable Lefoko Maxwell Moagi √ Honourable Pono Pearson Patson Moatlhodi √ Honourable Setlhabelo Naser Modukanele √ Honourable Anna Maria Mokgethi Honourable Eric Mothibi Molale √ Honourable Fidelis Macdonald Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi Shimane Molebatsi √ Honourable Talita Monnakgotla √ Honourable Kabo Neale Sechele Morwaeng √ Honourable Mokwaledi Ignatius Moswaane Honourable Dumezweni Meshack Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Kefentse Mzwinila √ Honourable Kgoberego Nkawana √ Honourable Mabuse Mopati Pule √ Honourable Tumiso Macdonald Rakgare √ Honourable Onneetse Ramogapi √ Honourable Mephato Reatile √ Honourable Oabile Regoeng √ Honourable Dumelang Saleshando √ Honourable Thulagano Merafe Segokgo Honourable Peggy Serame √ Honourable Machana Ronald Shamukuni √ Honourable Johane Luther-Tine Thiite √ Honourable Dr Never Tshabang √

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Honourable David Tshere √ His Honour Slumber Tsogwane √

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga o a mpitsa.

Honourable Motsamai Gabantema Jelson Motsamai √ Honourable Palelo Keitseope Motaosane √

…Silence… MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, the results of your voting; the Ayes-53, Absent-11 and no opposition. So, the Ayes have it. Question put and agreed to. ORGANISATION 2000 - MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM MR CHAIRPERSON: Let us move on Honourable Members. Honourable Members, note that 2 hours 25 minutes have allocated to this Organisation and I shall call upon the Honourable Minister to reply to the debates at 17:50 hours today and the question will be put at 16:05 tomorrow. Honourable Minister Honourable Kereng.

MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM (MS KERENG): I thank you Mr Chairperson. Good afternoon Mr Chairperson and Honourable Members. I have the honour to present my ministry’s 2021/2022 Recurrent and Development Budget requests for consideration and approval by this Honourable Committee.

Let me start off by highlighting the budget performance for 2020/2021. Mr Chairperson, my ministry was allocated Nine Hundred and Thirty-Five Million, Eight Hundred and Fifty-Seven Thousand, Six Hundred and Seventy Pula (P935, 857, 670) for the financial year comprising of One Hundred and Two Million, Seven Hundred Thousand Pula (P102, 700, 000) and Eight Hundred and Thirty-Three Million, One Hundred and Fifty-Seven Thousand, Six Hundred and Seventy Pula (P833, 157, 670) for the Development and Recurrent Budgets respectively. Out of the total of One Hundred and Two Million, Seven Hundred Thousand Pula (P102, 700, 000) for the Development Budget, a total of Seventy-Six Million, Three Hundred and Thirty-Two Thousand, Nine Hundred and Forty-Three Pula and Nine Thebe (P76, 332, 943, 009) has been spent so far representing 74.3 per cent of the budget.

The Recurrent Budget on the other hand was allocated Eight Hundred and Thirty-Three Million, One Hundred and Fifty-Seven Thousand, Six Hundred and Seventy Pula (P833, 157, 670) out of which Six Hundred and Eighty-Five Million, Nine Hundred and Eighty-Two Thousand, Five Hundred and Sixty Pula (P685, 982, 560) has been spent translating to 82 per cent of the budget and it compares to the last year’s 11 per cent. Mr Chairperson, please allow me to take this opportunity to appraise the Committee on the policies, programmes and projects that my ministry is undertaking in pursuit of its mandate starting with the challenges and interventions that we experienced and embarked on the previous year. My ministry has been hard hit by the COVID-19 pandemic, especially the tourism sector. According to the survey conducted by the Botswana Tourism Organisation (BTO), there is a sharp decline of tourism numbers and losses of revenues estimated at over P6 billion and instant job losses. To minimise the impact of COVID-19 pandemic, my ministry has been instrumental in lobbying for the support of the sector through tourism industry wage subsidies negotiated together with the loan facilities to the tourism sector through interest free loans administered by the National Development Bank (NDB).

Hospitality facilities were also used as quarantines which assisted those that availed their facilities to generate some income. Additionally, a robust roll-out marketing was done to promote domestic tourism. My ministry would like to thank Batswana for the uptake and we encourage them to keep exploring Botswana and taking their space in the local market.

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Mr Chairperson, training and stakeholder consultation Furthermore, my ministry has been offering contracts to meetings could not be held as originally planned locals, especially young contractors and we have been due to movement and meeting restrictions owing to experiencing problems regarding their capacity. We will COVID-19. In order to address this challenge, my continue to assist them to be able to meet the service ministry had to hold virtual meetings with relevant standards. stakeholders. Although these meetings have become a COVID-19 budget cuts affected implementation of many new norm and are effective, they remain costly to the projects across the ministry. However, prioritisation, conferencing industry. The roll-out of the COVID-19 transfer of funding or virements were made to allow vaccine is expected to help us accelerate recovery of progress of projects. the tourism sector as movement restrictions both locally and internationally are expected to ease out. ACHIEVEMENTS

Human-Wildlife Conflict continues to be a challenge Tourism Information Licensing System (TOLIS) to livelihoods of rural communities. A total of 5,668 In an effort to improve doing business in the licensing human-wildlife cases have so far been reported and an and revenue collection from licensed operators, my amount of P19,154,255.50 disbursed in compensation ministry launched the Tourism Information Licensing during the previous year. In an effort to address this System (TOLIS) in January last year. challenge, my ministry has developed a Human-Wildlife Conflict Strategy. The system offers a platform to apply for tourism licence and pay licence fees, penalties and training Hunting quotas that were issued for 2020, were not levy fees online. It generates reminders in the form of utilised due to COVID-19 epidemic. The citizen quota text messages (sms) in relation to due annual licence was utilised although the hunting season was cut short fees and training levy. This system is a testimony of due to the pandemic. Mr Chairperson, my ministry has our realisation of the Fourth Industrial Revolution and since rolled over the current quotas to 2021 hunting Transformational Agenda. season allowing for communities living alongside wildlife to fully benefit from this resource and accrue Mr Chairperson, TOLIS was timely as it continues to revenues to improve their lives. enable operators to transact at the comfort of their offices and homes, thus minimising movements in accordance The National Elephant Action Plan and strategy have with COVID-19 controls. Mr Chairperson, so far, 653 been completed and it will assist in the management and companies have registered to use this TOLIS and 510 of control of elephants. It will also enhance human wildlife them are active. coexistence. A National Elephant Action Plan (NEAP) Digital Museum technical workshop was held in December 2019. The draft plan had been peer reviewed. An amount of P945 In an effort to position Botswana as a destination of choice 000.00 has been approved from Conservation Trust and also to be relevant in the international stage, as well Fund for the construction of cluster fencing for Matopi as to grow tourism, my ministry is developing a Digital Community Trust as we continue to control movement Museum to facilitate access to the country’s heritage, cultural and crafts to the public and the international of problem animals. audience through virtual platforms. The virtual museum My ministry is faced with challenges that include the will provide an opportunity for Batswana artists to urgent need to maintain equipment to the required showcase their works to an international audience. The standards such as meteorological equipment and non- contract for the museum was signed on June 2020 and availability of local companies that manufacture and construction started in December of the same year, maintain such instruments. The prevailing situation expected to be completed by December of 2021. means that the replacement of worn out parts becomes National Drought Management Plan costly and takes long to procure. We are currently importing experts to perform these duties and it is Mr Chairperson, the National Drought Management not convenient. So my ministry is in the process of Plan has been completed and developed to address the negotiating with these external companies to build socio-economic and environmental impacts of drought capacity for locals to provide the service. in Botswana.

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Climate Change Policy The expression of interest (EOI) for the identified sites in Gaborone, Shashe and Letsibogo Dams were closed In an effort to counter the negative impacts of climate in December 2020 and they are expected to cumulatively change, my ministry has developed the National generate 599 jobs and by end of May, we expect to have Climate Change Policy which is awaiting consideration delivered them to the winning bidders. by this Honourable House. A National Climate Change Strategy and Action Plan has also been developed Moshupa Dam to operationalise the policy. The policy represents Botswana’s commitment to join the international In Moshupa Mr Chairperson, we are working with community in stabilising greenhouse gases in the Itsoseng Community Trust assisting them to develop atmosphere and building of resilience in the key tourism activities around Moshupa Dam. Consultations economic sectors of this country, including agriculture. have been done in this project, and will implement various projects that will generate around 20 jobs. Tourism Policy Mmakgodumo Dam My ministry has completed the development of the draft Tourism Policy which also awaits Parliament approval. In Mmakgodumo Dam as well, same thing, we are The aim of the policy is to enhance the contribution of assisting the community to diversify activities around the tourism sector in the growth and development of the dam, 30 jobs will be created and we expect this Botswana. It will be achieved through different strategies project to be completed this year. and on diversification and establishment of an enabling environment for tourism investment. My ministry has Kgalagadi Heritage Trail was launched in Tsabong in also entered into an agreement with the United Nations February 2020. It highlights over 30 key cultural and World Tourism Organisation (UNWTO) for capacity natural heritage sites that can be visited in the Kgalagadi building and they assist us in the development of the area as we diversify tourism around the country. My National Tourism Master Plan. ministry will work with the local communities to host Agro-Tourism cultural villages, operate campsites and interpretation centres at these heritage sites. My ministry has revised the Agro-Tourism Guidelines to promote utilisation of agricultural land for tourism Allocation of Campsites to Citizens purposes to diversify economic opportunities in their farm land. This revision Mr Chairperson also promotes The ministry has identified 45 campsites in Khutse, citizen participation in the tourism industry. My Central Kalahari Game Reserve (CKGR) and Kgalagadi ministry is currently translating these guidelines into Trans-Frontier Park for allocation to citizens and 100 Setswana. The revision and launch of the guidelines per cent citizen owned companies and consortia. The have increased interest in Agro-Tourism and we already expression of interest for the campsites have been have seven licensed Agro-Tourism operators and published and closed in February 2021, when we expect expecting to license 15 that are already in operation in to allocate them by May of the same year. this line of business. Development of Motlhware Nature Reserve Development of Dams Tourism Another project in Motlhware that we have availed about My ministry is continuing on its drive to promote P3.5 million in Letlhakeng to assist the community to citizen empowerment and active participation in the operate a game reserve in the area expected to create or tourism industry, diversifying the tourism product and generate 15 jobs and will be completed by July 2021. enabling Batswana to take part or participate in the sector. We have started implementation of the Dam’s Renovation of Old Ngoma Campsite tourism where we have identified tourism sites around Gaborone, Shashe, Letsibogo and Thune dams. The Renovation of Ngoma Campsite has also been done. identified tourism sites will be allocated to 70 per cent A business plan is being developed for the project, 12 citizen owned companies and consortia and 30 per cent jobs will be created. The communities will benefit from remaining will be competed for in the market. them.

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Development of Charcoal Production Project ALLOCATION OF CONCESSIONS IN MOREMI GAME RESERVE Charcoal Production Project in Kgalagadi utilising the invasive crop called Sexanana or Prosopis plant, where Mr Chairperson, my ministry has identified three sites they are producing charcoal for the market. 35 jobs will available for leasing to 100 per cent citizen owned be generated. companies, joint ventures around Khwai Flood plains, Karakao Island and Lone Tree. This allocation is Guidelines for keeping diphologolo mo masimong awaiting approval of the Management and Operational We have finalised these guidelines and we expect the Guidelines. The Management Plan for Moremi Game guidelines to be launched in April of this year. Reserve is also expected to identify additional sites for allocation to Batswana. Implementation of the Kasane/Kazungula RESOURCE MOBILISATION Redevelopment Project Mr Chairperson, the National Environment Fund (NEF) Mr Chairperson, my ministry is transforming the settlements of Kasane and Kazungula into a tourism was established with the core mandate of augmenting destination offering a high-quality range of attractions existing environmental management initiatives. Let and activities not primarily dependent on wildlife. me move to indicating that this fund has funded 47 projects in the year totalling P39, 309,882 availed to our Three key activities underpinning this project include communities in conservation. development of new tourism products, property relocations to release prime land for tourism, Mr Chairperson, my ministry is the process of infrastructure and business development. developing a five-year National Environment Fund Strategy following the lapse of the previous strategy. Mr Chairperson, United Nations World Tourism It is anticipated that the strategy will be aligned to Organisation (UNWTO) as a technical partner for product development and advisor on development of Government priorities such as resource mobilisation these new sites is working with us to make this to come for greater project funding, job creation, innovation, to pass. livelihood improvement and inclusivity. According to the strategy, we will set targets for participation in My ministry is also relocating some Government offices funded projects by disadvantaged groups as a deliberate and private residential properties along the Chobe effort by the ministry to encourage them to partake in Riverfront and President Avenue to make investment environmental projects for improvement of the their land available for tourism. Environmental Assessment livelihoods. Conservation Trust Fund (CTF) on the Bill has been passed by Parliament in September other hand, has been disbursed to communities for last year. It is going to transform the way of doing development and conservation on problem animals like business cutting turnaround times for processing of elephants and lions. My ministry has funded the Mokopi Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) applications Conservation Trust ko Mokoboxane to develop a captive and removing some of the hindrances including some facility for lions through the funding that amounts to a of the major gaps. P1 million. This project will be launched in April 2021. INTEGRATED WASTE MANAGEMENT POLICY EXPANSION OF THE AIR QUALITY MONITORING NETWORK Mr Chairperson, this is now awaiting consideration by Parliament. We have just finalised it and will be discussed Mr Chairperson, this has been an achievement with 16 in Parliament. This policy is geared towards creating a old stations. Seven for upgrading, where three are in platform for integrated sustainable waste management Gaborone, one in Tsabong, one in Francistown. We are through adequate planning and resourcing, improving in place monitoring the quality of our air. waste regulation. It will also drive reduction, re-use and recycling thereby creating business opportunities and STOCKHOLM CONVENTION ON PERSISTENT jobs. ORGANIC POLLUTANTS

The Integrated Waste Management Bill associated Mr Chairperson, we have identified 76 tonnes of will facilitate the enforcements that are required to electrical transformers containing toxic Poly Chlorinated operationalise this policy. Biphenyl (PCB’s) oils countrywide for destruction.

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These are intended for destruction with the purpose I therefore move Mr Chairperson that the sum of to build a facility outside Botswana, thus protecting Eight Hundred and Forty-Eight Million, and Twenty Batswana from hazardous chemicals. Thousand, Six Hundred and Ten Pula (P848,020,610) under the Recurrent Budget for Head 2000 be approved Review of Park Fees Mr Chairperson, has been done and stand part of the Schedule of Appropriation and we expect the new fees to be launched in April. (2021/2022) Bill, 2019 (No. 1 of 2021); and that the DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION ON AUTOMATED sum of Three Hundred and Thirty-Nine Million, One WATER QUALITY MONITORING Hundred and Fifty Thousand Pula (P339, 150, 000) for Head 2000 in the Development Fund Estimates be Mr Chairperson, my ministry has set up five automated approved and stand part of those estimates. I thank you Water Quality Monitoring equipment in the Okavango Mr Chairperson. and Chobe Rivers. They are helping us to track pollutants in these valuable water resources. “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP”

LAND DEGRADATION MONITORING AND MR CHAIRPERSON (MR PULE): Before I open the ASSESSMENT SYSTEM floor for debate, let me try to respond to the question that was put to me yesterday regarding the ruling that Mr Chairperson, my ministry in collaboration with I made about Honourable Minister Kgafela’s decision United Nations Food and Agricultural Organisation not to move for the second time during his presentation. (FAO) has embarked on a capacity building exercise to assess and monitor land degradation across the country, We had a discussion with him this morning, and we also and to engage stakeholders and communities to restore had an opportunity to look at Standing Order 46, which this land. indicates that the Minister was not out of order. What we also proceeded on was not out of order, but we have TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES agreed that we should adopt the normal practice that we have had, that the Minister will move, then he finishes Mr Chairperson, we have identified new potential his presentation and then also move after responding to opportunities for tourism in Kgatleng, Kanye, debate. So that is what we are going to adopt for now, Kgalagadi (Middlepits), Nkange Area, Francistown and we have further said probably we also have to and Mogoditshane. This will be prioritised during the discuss it and find out from other Parliaments how they consideration of funding through our different funding do it. So that if it is anything that has to be reviewed mechanisms in the next year and looked at, then we should do that after consulting with other Parliaments. Without further ado, let me call BUDGET PROPOSALS FOR 2021/2022 the first speaker who will be Honourable Majaga to take Mr Chairperson, my ministry proposes a total budget the floor. estimate amounting to One Billion, One Hundred and MR MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): Thank you Mr Eighty-Seven Million, One Hundred and Seventy Chairperson, go bo o mphile nako gore ke tshwaele mo Thousand, Six Hundred and Ten Pula (P1,187,170,610). kopong ya ga Tona. Mr Chairperson, ke ema nokeng The budget comprises of P339, 150,000 for the kopo ya ga Tona Mmaetsho Kereng ka botlalo gore a Development Budget and P848, 020,610 for the bone madi a a kopang, mme madi ao a mannye fela Recurrent Budget. The Development Budget has thata. increased by 69.7 per cent from last year, while the Recurrent Budget has increased by 2 per cent from the Mr Chairperson, ka go lebega ke tlaa bua fela mo previous year. lephateng le, ke tlaa nna out of order go se kae ke re, lephata le ke kopa gore nako e e tlang re le okeletse Out of the proposed Recurrent Budget amounting to madi, le la Minerals la ga Tona Moagi. P848, 020,610, P92, 949,560, representing 10.9 per cent is earmarked for the Botswana Tourism Organisation. Mabaka e le gore maphata a ke one a a dirang income generation ya lefatshe le. Fa re ka nna re neela maphata The Development Budget will go into broadening the a e leng gore one ke a a ntshang fela re bo re lebala a e Tourism phase, basic infrastructure, computerisation as leng gore le one a a tsenya, kgabagare re tlaa iphitlhela well as environmental protection. re le mo mathateng. Gore re okeletse maphata a ke

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neng ke ntse ke a nankola a Agriculture, Minerals le la a batho ba hirwe, especially Batswana ba e leng gore Tourism madi, re tlaabo re itirela tshiamelo ya to invest bontsi ga ba yo mo this business ya tourism. Bua le your so that the output e nne ntsi. A mangwe le a itse gore ga brother the Minister of Lands Rraetsho Mzwinila batho re kake ra tshela go sena botsogo, go sena eng, mme a ba fiweleases tsa bone, ba fiweconcessions tsa bone, ba mangwe o fitlhela a tshwenya, Development Budget ya e leng gore ga ba na corruption ga ba tlhotlhomisiwe. teng jaaka kwa bo Education e sa dirisiwa sentle go bo Kana tse dingwe o utlwa gotwe go ntse jalo. A ba gotwe nnyaa re tle re sapote. Ke ne ke e fa e le sekai fela fiwe ka bonako le bone ba kgone gore investors di ba gore lephata le ke kopa gore le dirwe jang ka mabaka thuse. Jaaka kwa bo Boteti kwa, bo Rakops Trust go afe. na le banana ba tlhamile some trusts. Le kwa kgaolong ya me tota. Le bo Makgobokgobo Youth Trust kwa Mr Chairperson, mma ke re dikgang ka bontsi Tona o Maun. Jaanong batho bao o fitlhela go eme fela o sa di buile. Jaaka a di buile jaana ke lebogele kgang ya itse gore mathata a bone ke eng. Ke re dilo tsone tseo di Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) e e neng ya kgarametse mmaetsho ka o le mme o tshwara thipa ka fetisiwa ke Ntlo e, e bo e diragadiwa gone foo. Ke re moo kwa bogaleng, o dire sentle. e nnile maiteko a mantle thata e bile e thusa Batswana for their business ventures; e ka tswa e le tsa tourism le Hunting; ke a leboga, go na le some trusts mo kgaolong ya tse dingwe ka gore ga go sa tlhole go tsewa nako e ntsi me ya Nata-Gweta, bo Gotshetshaa, bo Nata Sanctuary, go dira EIA Report. Ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng go le bone gompieno ga ba sale morago, ga ba kake ba se lebogela. Le policies tsotlhe tse di ntseng di le teng di nna ba rekisetswa ditlou tse di ba tshwenyang, tse di le fa tafoleng, le tsone Tona ke kopa gore e re dingwaga tshwenyang kwa bo Bobirwa kwa, tse di tshwenyang tse ka di tsamaile, o le mo setilong sone seo, o dire gore kwa go bo Rre Never Tshabang kwa bo Maitengwe le o di fetise mme. O ka ratiwa ke Modimo le Batswana mafelo a otlhe fela, kwa bo Kgalagadi di bo di ya go ka gore if I recall very well bo human-wildlife conflicts rekisiwa ke Makgoa re palelwa fela ke go ya go tsena le tse dingwe fela ka bontsi jaaka o ne o di fetisa, tsone auction le Makgoa. Re a kgona. Le rona baemedi ba ga di a bolo go nna di sa fetisiwe before Parliament. If bone re ka ya go ba thusa gore ba rekise diphologolo I am not mistaken maybe two of your predecessors; bo tsa bone mo auction. Re ka bo re sa tshwenye ba thuto former Honourable Mokaila le Honourable Khama, di mo kgaolong ya me. Re ka bo re aga primary schools ka ne di tshwanetse gore di ka bo di fetile ka bontsi mme tsa madi a e leng gore ke a a tswang mo sales tsa auctions se ka tsa bona lesedi gore di fete. Ke re o di kgarametse tsa ditlou tse e leng gore di a re tshwenya. gore di fete, Batswana ba ko ba kgone go thusega ka lephata lone le la gago la tourism mmaetsho. E nngwe kgang, sorry for not yielding, ga ke na nako ka ke bua kgang e fela e. Ke lone lephata le ke le filweng Ke bo ke re kgang e nngwe e ke ka buang ka yone ke fela, ga ke na go bua mo go a mangwe. Gape ke bogale ya gore a e re mo kopong ya gago ya madi e e tlang re thata malatsi a o ka fitlhela ke diretse mongwe mathata. akanye tourism beyond and post COVID-19. Dira fela fa So, ga ke batle modumo. Mma ke tswelele. e le sengwe o kope mo Palamenteng o ye go aga airport e nngwe kwa Maun fa Chanoga. Ele ya Maun e tlaa sala Ke re this thing ya hunting ke batla gore e tswelele e le a mini airport ya deltas. Ke gore batho they will fly mafelo otlhe, Batswana ba boelwe (benefit) fa COVID direct ba sa tsene ka South Africa ba tla kwa Maun. Ya e ka boela moragonyana. Le yone e tlaa re thusa gore Kasane is better. Kwa Kasane go ye go agiwa sepatela. le rona re nne le ownership ya diphologolo tse e leng O ka bua le your sister Ministers ba Transport le ba gore they are problematic in our areas, o tsaya kwa bo Health. Dilo tsone tseo di bo di nna teng kwa Kasane le Ngami, kwa bo Maun, kwa bo Chobe, kae, kae fela bo kwa Maun so that we boost tourism so that our revenue Maitengwe. Jaanong le rona ga re a tshwanela gore re earning e nne ntsi re kgone go tlhabolola lefatshe le. nne re bona those big companies fela. Our revenues di wetse tlase because of lephata le le la E nngwe kgang e ke tlaa batlang gore e nne teng, mme mines jalojalo, le makgetho a mangwe. Fa o ka dira jalo ke itse gore o ntse o tsweletse ka yone Honourable o tlaabo o dirile gore our tourism e se ka ya nna o kare Minister, companies tse tse ditona tse, they are in ke sub batho ba tsena ka South Africa. Ke re dilo tsone Namibia, they are in Zimbabwe and Batswana le banana tseo le tsone di tsibogele. ba Batswana ke gone ba reng ba a simolola ba tsena Your working relation le Lephata la Ditsha e tokafatse. mo tourism. A go nne le a working relationship, like O ba kope, fa go senang dikgang, go sena corruption dikompone tse ditona re a tle re bone di na le sub fa e

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le tsa construction, le bone ba neele tse dinnyennyane, O ne wa supa gore le tlaa tswelela le ba pepetletsa le ba se ka ba ikgagapelela gotlhe, gore ba kgone go tsena. ba aga le dira mo gotweng capacity building. That is Batswana e se ka ya nna ba dikepe fela tse e leng gore the right approach. When you deal with banana fa ba go tlaabo go tloga gotwe di bolaya batho, go a reng, go santse ba fatlhoga, ga go re o ba felele pelo, ga re o ba a reng. E re ba na le mekoronyana mme le gone kwa fe sebaka. O leke go ba aga gore fa ba tlhaetseng teng o bale le bone ba tlhofofatse the monopoly o ba o dirang leke go ba thatafatsa gore e re kamoso le bone ba kgone kwa bo Victoria Falls le kwa mafatsheng a e leng gore go itshupa o na le seabe mo go ba godiseng, o ba rodisa. re bapile le one. Mma ke bua ka Tourism Licensing and Information Ke bo ke re a sengwe se dirwe ka the four country System (TOLIS) e o neng o e bua. This is the step in border go nne le promotion e e bonalang gore nnyaa the right direction Minister ka gore fa go iwa kwa pele, mme ke sengwe se e leng gore ke sa tlholego e tona dilo ka bontsi di tlaabo di dirwa ka maranyane. O supa gore mafatshe a le four a bo a tlhakanetse share the fa o le fa pelenyana ga bontsi jwa tse dingwe mo ga border. Go nne fela in a calendar jaaka ele e e neng ya rona ka go tsenya mo maranyaneng, mma re go akgole nna teng ya Okavango, ele ya Makgadikgadi, e e neng Tona. Digital museum, ke yone gape e nngwe ya tsa ya tsenngwa in the World Heritage Sites. Le yone e a e maranyane. I think this is way overdue. Ke tsaya sekai ka bonwe gore e ka dirwa jang. rona ba re goletseng mo Gaborone, museum wa rona mo Gaborone o ne o kgona go nna 20 years o sa ye kwa go E nngwe ke bo ke re Tona jaaka ke ne ke tlhalosa gore one mme fa o tla o fitlhela o tshwana fela jaaka 20years madi a mannyennyane mme go na le tsotlhe tse e leng ago. Jaanong when you go on a digital platform, go raya gore gongwe le ne le di eleditse to boost ba dikgwebo gore dilo di tlaabo di kgona go fetoga kgapetsakgapetsa. tse di neng tsa gatelelwa bobe ke COVID, go tswelele This is the step in the right direction, Fourth Industrial gape re le thuse rotlhe like you did ka December o kopa Revolution jaaka o ntse o bua gore they are starting it in gore nnyaa local tourism, a go tswelelwe ka April le the right direction. ka bo September jalojalo. We encourage Batswana gore le bone ba itse lefatshe la bone, ba leke go thusa Minister, number 16 o buile ka National Draught bangwe ka bone, re se ka ra lebelela fela e le tourism Management Plan. This is way overdue. Dikgang tse tsa from outside. Ke re ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng gore bo climate change ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng go tshela re go thuse rotlhe re lebile gore by so doing re tlaa le tsone, jaanong ga re re itse, e se ka ya nna o kare re tshegetsa dikgwebo tsa Batswana gone kwa mafelong a tshoganeditswe. Go setse go lemosegile ka patterns tsa a tshwanang a bo Maun le a mangwe fela jalojalo. bo El Nino le bo Lamina gore dikgang tsa bo leuba ke dilo tse di tlaa re etelang kgapetsakgapetsa. Go maleba O ntse o bua mo pegong ya gago Mr Chairperson… gore re bo re setse re na le management plan re itse gore MR CHAIRPERSON: Your time is up Honourable dingwaga tsa rona tsa lebua re dira jang, tsa kgoro re Member. Honourable Healy. dira jang. I think it is a very good initiative. E tshwana le yone number 17 ya Climate Change Policy. It is MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY (GABORONE undeniable, the climate is changing. Ga re le rona re CENTRAL): Ke a leboga Modulasetilo wa komiti bo re na le mokwalo. Re se ka ra nna re bua fela, re na and good afternoon. Honourable Minister, re lebogela le mokwalo o o itebagantseng le selo se. O itebagantse budget jaaka o e rotse and tla ke e re tlaa tlaa mo go tse le gore gompieno jaaka re godile temo ya mabele pedi tse tharo. Sa ntlha tla ke simolole ka go akgola ka le mmidi, e le selo se re neng re itse gore ngwaga le facilitation ya lona ka nako ya COVID 19 for tourism ngwaga ga o ka ke wa tlhoka go roba sengwe. Dilo di visas, ke itse gore ministry wa gago was very hands- fetogile jaanong ga re re ithute gore re leme eng se se on, o react ka bofefo to diemo jaaka di ne di fetoga tsamaelanang le dinako tsa gompieno. kgapetsakgapetsa. Agro-tourism; this is way overdue. Fa o ka lebelela kwa Ke go akgole gore you have showed leadership in very, mafatsheng a le mantsi, ke e fa sekai gongwe kwa bo very difficult circumstances. Spain, they have a bull run e e leng gore it is tourism anchored on agriculture. Fa o ka kwa bo United States Honourable Minister, kwa go number 12 mo of America (USA), especially in the south, there is a presentation ya gago, o buile ka mathata a le nang le common sport e e bidiwang bull riding, e o palamang one mabapi le dikgwebo tsa banana fa le bereka le tsone. poo. Ke tsaya gore jaaka le rona mo ga rona re le batho

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ba ba katisang bo dipitse, bo eng, dilo tseo di a nyalana. Miami tse di fa thoko ga metsi, o fitlhela e le gore In value proposition, concept e ya rona ya moraka, kana there is so much activities that go around that water. re na le ka fa rona re e dirileng ka teng. Jaanong fa o O fitlhela e le gore a lot of the prime areas are right tsaya gongwe batho ba ba tswang kwa mafatsheng a on the water and this is the right thing. Ke go raya ke bo Argentina, America, Brazil le mafatshe a mangwe re le mo Gaborone re tlhoka redevelopment. Fa o leba a ba ruileng kgomo thatathata, gongwe baruakgomo ba Gaborone Main Mall, this is an area that is prime for koo ba ka eletsa go tla e le bajanala go tla go bona ka redevelopment. This is an area e e leng gore fa go buiwa mokgwa o mongwe o baruakgomo ba dirang ka teng. ka bo Special Economic Zones (SEZs), re tshwanetse go This is way overdue, I thank you for that. e akanyetsa. Tourism ya rona yotlhe go lebega e lebile kwa ntle, e lebile dilo tsa nature. Banana bone fa ba tlile Development of dam tourism, number 20; le yone it is le batsadi ba bone gongwe mo Gaborone, gongwe ba way overdue. Fa o ya kwa Aferika Borwa gongwe o etela mafelo a mangwe a re ntseng re a bua, ba batla etela ditoropo tsa bo Pretoria, bo Johannesburg, gantsi go itlosa bodutu. Jaanong akanyetsa urban tourism in re feta ka lefelo le le bidiwang Hartbeespoort. It is a the form of nightclubs and entertainment. Please, o tle luxury dam tourism town that is basically built around o nkeme nokeng fa re tlisa kgang ya go akanyetsa gore the dam. Dilo tse di ntseng jaana are the way to go. Le Gaborone Main Mall le yone e ka nna SEZ ya tourism gone ke go akgole Minister. Minister. Number 23, allocation of campsite to citizens; Minister, Integrated Waste Management; fa o nna mo toropong you are doing very very well in this direction, o baya jaaka rona, waste is a big problem. Go a itumedisa fa e le beng gae kwa pele. Re bone Batswana ba sekei ba gore o nna le a Plan ya Integrated Waste Management. kgaphelwa kwa thoko mo dikgannyeng tsa tourism, o fitlhela ba tsaya masalela, mme ntswa tota re itse gore Mma ke tabogele fa pele ke bue ka concessions tse in the value chain ya tourism, campsites tse le tsone ke o neng o bua ka tsone kwa Moremi. This is way masalela, but you are moving in the right direction. A re overdue, it is very welcome, Batswana ba ntse ba sa kgone go tsaya karolo mo mading a tourism. E ntse e palamele kwa godimo re goroge kwa godimodimo kwa le bahiriwa, baapei, batsamaise ba dikepe le dikoloi ba e leng gore we have concessions jaaka ke bone o bua ka sa own. Minister, let this be your legacy that you have tsone fa pele fale. empowered Batswana in this area, you have made them owners, not just spectators. Honourable Minister, number 24 and 23 o bua ka Motlhware Nature Reserve le Ngoma Community Trust. National Environment Fund; Minister, board e, a ko re Honourable Minister, ke ne ke re ke go raya ke re le gone se ka ra bona the usual suspects, let us see some new mo Gaborone o re gopole gore re na le Gaborone Game faces. A re bone banana, people living with disabilities le Reserve e e mo kgaolong ya Gaborone Central. Fa o bomme. Let us not see any of the faces that we have seen bua ka community trusts, o bua ka a resource e tshwana in any of other boards tse di ntseng di le teng Minister. le ele e e ijang fela, o akanye le mo ditoropong… Kana Air quality monitoring networks; Minister, maloba re ne dilo tsa tourism ga se dilo tsa batho ba kwa magaeng re le fa re ngangisana ka dikoloi tsa difonkong gore di fela, le rona mo ditoropong we want to participate. Fa o tsentswe levy. Ke mongwe wa batho ba ba reng a di se leba in other countries bo Kenya jaana, o fitlhela go na ka tsa tsenngwa levy. Let us monitor gore go se ka ga tla le bo …(inaudible)… parks. Gaborone Game Reserve dikoloi tse di kgologolo, go se ka ga latlhelwa maanapo is small mme fa motho a tlile go dira se a tlileng go se kwano. Gongwe re ka re dikoloi tse di 10 years and dira mo Gaborone a batla go itlosa bodutu ka bojanala, below ke tsone di ka tlang kwano. This is issue ya o kgona go mo isa gone koo gore a bone diphiri, ditau, air quality. This is one of the contributing factors. matotse le dinkwe gautshwane fela. A bo a re e rile ke le Stockholm Convention e buile ka Polychlorinated kwa Botswana ka bona the Big Five as they call them. biphenyls (PCBs). Minister, wa re dilo tseo di isiwa Mr Chairperson, ke tsamaya fa kae ka nako? outside of Botswana, transformers tseo to protect us. MR CHAIRPERSON: You have three minutes. No Minister, I differ with you, we are exporting jobs and money. Let us find the way of capacity building MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Okay. Number 28, and doing these things here. Ga gona sepe sa gore go a Kasane, Kazungula redevelopment; this is a welcome re protect. That is a disadvantaging the citizens of this initiative Minister. When you look at cities like bo country.

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Tourism opportunities Minister mo go number 44; ke gotwe Botswana Game Industries e le kwa Francistown, boela kwa go yone kgang ya SEZs for Gaborone Main mme fa e sale go tswalwa letsomo, kompone eo e Mall le Gaborone Game Reserve. If there are limited tswetswe. Ke tlhalose gore kompone eo e ne e dira eng. opportunities mo toropong ya Gaborone tsa tourism, I E ne e hirile Batswana ba le bantsintsi fela, go ne go want you to relook at these issues and see what we can na le mo gotweng ke taxidermists, ba ba neng ba bopa do within the city under your ministry under tourism. I diphologolo, ba e tsosa gore e re fa o tsamaya fale, o thank you Mr Chairperson. bone e kete e a tshela. Diphologolo tsotlhe tse di mo Botswana, go ne go sena e e neng e ba palela. Ba ne MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much ba dira e le sekai, ditilo ka maroo a ditlou, necklaces, Honourable Member. Honourable Reatile. ba dira dilo tse dintsintsi ka dinaka tsa ditlou. Ba ne ba dira mekgabisa e mentsi ka matlalo a diphologolo …Silence… tse di farologanyeng. Fa e sale letsomo le tswalwa mo Botswana, Game Industries le yone e bo e tswala, ka e MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Reatile! ne e sena sepe se e ka se dirang le kwa e ka tsayang dilo …Silence… tseo teng.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Nkawana! Gompieno re fano, re bua ka go bulela letsomo, mme ga re a ipaakanyetsa gore fa diphologolo tse di sena MR NKAWANA (SELEBI PHIKWE EAST): Ke a go nna di tsomiwa, re dira jang ka tsone. Go lebega leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke tshwaele mo kopong ya Minister a santse a tsaya gore we are hunting for madi a ga Minister wa Environment. Ke mo ema nokeng subsistence. Letsomo le tshwanetse go re tsisetsa madi, ka matshwenyego, ka meno a maleele, mme ke mo ema re batla go nne commercial, products tse di tswang mo nokeng ka gore tota ditiro di tshwanetse tsa dirwa. Madi diphologolong, re kgone go di romela (export) kwa a a neetsweng a mannyennyane thata, e bile ke na le mafatsheng a sele. Gone jaana Minister, o a itse gore matshwenyego a a fetang, a ke etleng ke a bue le ene you cannot export lenaka la tlou. Potso e motho a ka e gore, gore re tlhabolole bojanala jwa rona, ke fa re dirile botsang ke gore fa ke reka tlou mo go wena Goromente, jang. Minister, ke ya go dira eng ka yone, dinaka le letlalo la yone? So ke bona e le gore re tla fela re sa ipaakanya, re Ke simolole ka gore kana re mo COVID, maloba e rile tabogile re raya Batswana fela re re re buletse letsomo, fa dilo di simologa, re bo re re dikgwebo di tswetswe, mme re sa ipaakanyetsa gore products tsa teng, re dira bana ba dule mo meberekong, dikompone ga di kgone eng ka tsone. go duela babereki ka gore ga ba mo kgwebong. Ga nna le mo gotweng ke wage subsidy, go thusa bo Letsomo le na le madi a mantsi go feta a photographic. radikgwebo go duela babereki lemmenyana fela la go I want to compare spot hunting with photographic ba tshetsa, mme ga ke utlwe Minister a bua sepe ka lone, safari. Se re tshwanetseng ra se itse ke gore hunting go supafala fa e le gore Minister ga a ikaelele gore o ka is consumptive, re a bolaya. Photographic ke go bona thusa dikgwebo jaaka ba di thusitse maloba. Ke nngwe diphologolo fela, o bo o feta and as a result, madi a ya mabaka a ke reng, ke na le ngongorego ya gore re teng ga a lekane, a letsomo a kwa godimodimo. A kwa ka se ke re dumalane fa go nna jaana. Ke eletsa fa a ka godimo e bile a le mo nakong e khutshwane, ka melao sekaseka mogopolo o, a thusa bagwebi ba ba amilweng ya Botswana, letsomo le letlelelwa dikgwedi di ka nna ke manokonoko a COVID, segolo jang ba bojanala. six kgotsa go feta foo. Re a itse gore le bone batsumi, tota letsomo la Botswana, e ne e ntse e le six months, Mr Chairperson, ke akgole Tona gore a bo a tsile ka mme mo dikgweding tsone tse six tse, go a bo go ne mogopolo wa go bulela letsomo. Letsomo le ga re ise re go tsile millions and millions tsa madi a a tswang kwa tlhaloganye gore poelo ya lone ke eng sentlesentle. Ke mafatsheng a sele, a tsisitswe ke batsumi ba ba tswang tseye sekai fela ka elephant hunting, fa re tsaya letsomo kwa ntle. Jaanong Minister, a ko o lebelele kgang e gore la ditlou le le saleng le tswetswe ka 2014 and even re ipaakantse go le kae? A re raya letsomo fela la motho before, nako sentle fela ya dingwaga tsele, the heydays a tsaya tlhobolo a tsena mo nageng, a thuntsha tlou e le tsa fa hunting e santse e le yone sentlentle mo Botswana, sekai, e wela fa fatshe, nama ya teng e bo e bolela foo, go ne go na le value chain ya hunting, dikompone tse di re bo re sa dire sepe ka yone. Re batla madi a a tswang neng di dira byproducts tsa elephants and other animals kwa mafatsheng a sele, a a nang le tlhwatlhwa e e kwa tse di bolailweng. Go ne go go na le kompone e bidiwa godimo thata Mr Chairperson.

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Ke tsene gape mo kgannyeng e nngwe ke e, ya digital dira tse di tla tshwanang le jaaka re na le bo Okavango, museums, o buile ka yone Honourable Minister. Rona Batswana ba sa kgone go ya teng ka gore ditlhwatlhwa kwa Phikwe re batla museum. Re batla go nna le museum di kwa godimo. A ditlhwatlhwa tsa rona Minister, e nne o o kayang ditso tsa rona kwa kgaolong ele ya SPEDU. tse di affordable, tse Batswana le bone ba santseng ba ka Phikwe e le yone centre ya kgaolo ya SPEDU gore kgona go etela mafelo a bone. Gompieno re a itse gore Bangwato, Babirwa, Batswapong ba ba ka kwa, fa re fa Motswana o re o mmotsa gore Chobe o ntse jang, ga ba beetse museum gaufi fale, ba ka kgona go supa ditso a itse gore o ntse jang, lebaka e le gore go nna turu gore tsa bone. Re ka kgona go bitsa ba ditšhabatšhaba ba tla Motswana o ka etela mafelo a a ntseng jalo. go bona ngwao ya bone ya kgaolo eo, e seng gore ba e latele mo Gaborone, segolo jang ka gore le gone teng Mr Chairperson, fa e le gore ke santse ke na le mo Gaborone, ga se gore tota e available to everyone. metsotsonyana e le mebedi, ke re ke bue ka problem Re utlwa fela go ntse gotwe National Museum, re o animals tse di tshwanang le ditlou tse di senyetsang batla kwa Phikwe gore re kaetse mongwe le mongwe, batho gongwe le gongwe mo Botswana. A re se ka ra re re Batswana ba ditšhaba gore ba re jele nala, gongwe ba buletse letsomo re bua ka diphologolo tse di senyetsang ka re tlogelela sengwenyana se re ka se bayang mo batho, a e nne a separate package, go itsiwe gore tseo dikgetsing tsa rona. di bolawa ka gore di senyetsa batho, re se ka ra di balela mo quota ya tse re ka di bapaletsang batswakwa. Tona o buile ka Kasane-Kazungula Project, re a Mr Chairperson, ke na le matshwenyego a gore dumalana gore go tshwanetse ga tlhabololwa, mme dikgwebo tsa bojanala tse di rekisiwang ke ba ba letshwenyego la me le le tona ke gore, kana e tlaare go di tshwereng gompieno bo ramadimadi, fa o re o a ntse jaana Honourable Minister, o bo o ya go fudusa sekaseka o fitlhela di le advertised kwa mafatsheng a batho. Ke utlwile o re o bone madi, o ya go fudusa sele, mo dipampiring tsa Botswana ga gona gope where batho fa ba leng teng, ba ba agileng matlo, a mangwe they are advertised. ke manobonobo, o ba neela madi o re ba tswe foo, o ba fudusetsa golo gongwe. Potso ya me ke gore, fa o ba MR CHAIRPERSON: Your time is up Honourable ntsha foo, o ya go tsenya bo mang, ba ba tshwanetsweng Nkawana. ke lefelo le o reng le le ntle mo bojanaleng? Ke eng fa bone, o ka se ke o ba thuse go tlhabolola kgotsa la HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR dira partnerships le bone batho bao, ka ke bone beng TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Mr ba lefatshe, go na le gore o ba fuduse? Ke eng le sa Chairperson, ke eme Tona nokeng mo maitekong a nne le mogopolo fela wa gore botlhe ba ba leng foo, ba gagwe, ntswa re itse gore madi a mo tlhaelela fela jaaka tshwaragane, le bitse investors from outside, ba tle go maphata a mangwe. Ke mo eme nokeng fela thata mo tshwaragana, ba tlhabolole golo foo, le bone ba tle ba kopong ya gagwe le mafoko le megopolo e mentle e a robe sengwe. Re a bo re tsamaela mo seemong sa gore tlang ka yone. re bo re iphitlhela e le gore re ntshitse Batswana mo Ke tseye sebaka se Mr Chairperson, pele ke lemoge tswineng ya dinotshi, re ya go ba latlhela kwa ditholeng, ka mo go faphegileng ke bo ke ise matshidiso kwa re bo re tlisa ditsala tsa rona, re di tsenya foo, kamoso lelwapeng la ngwana mongwe wa rona kwa Kgaolong Batswana ba bo ba sala ka khumanego e e ntseng jalo. ya Boteti, mo motseng wa Mosu, yo o neng a bolawa Ke kopa go bona nako Mr Chairperson. ke tlou mo bekeng e e fetileng. Mowa wa gagwe o MR CHAIRPERSON: You are left with 1 minute 45 tlaa robala ka kagiso, ke ise mafoko a matshidiso kwa seconds. batsading.

MR NKAWANA: Mathata a mangwe a a leng teng Ke tseye sebaka se gape ke lemoge se Tona a setseng a Mr Chairperson, ke gore re ne re bua ka forest range se buile, e leng maiteko a ministry wa gagwe, go leka resources tse le tsone ke dumelang gore a Batswana ba go thusa go tsosolosa trusts tsa metse, go thusa batho rutiwe tiriso ya segompieno gore ba di babalele. A re gore ba itirele ditiro, e bile ba somarele le matlotlo a ko re direng jalo, re lebile gore re batla gore e nne bone tlholego a a mo tikologong ya bone jaaka go diragetse Batswana ba ba tlhokomelang dilo tse. kwa motseng wa Mokoboxane, ke mo leboge fela thata. Ke leboge segolobogolo ka gore, mo a go ntshitseng ke Minister o buile gape ka go sekaseka park entrance lemme, mme dikompone tse di ikemetseng di ne tsa re fees tse ke dumelang gore le fa a dira jalo, ga a ka ke a thusa jaaka ba moepo wa Orapa ba Lucara, le dikompone

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dingwe tse di neng di ntse di isa matsogo, di dira mo emela nako ya letsomo. Di nne targeted, go itsiwe gore moepong wa Orapa e le tsa Batswana. Thulaganyo e ya di ka kgona gore di ntshiwe mo mafelong ao, dingwe Conservation Park ya Mokoboxane, e ya go nna a model tsa fokodiwa gore tse dingwe di tle di tshabe di tswe mo o Batswana ba bangwe ba tlaa tsogang ba diragatsa se se mafelong ao, mme fela ke lebogele letsomo. ntseng jalo kwa mafelong a bone. Re na le lekalana la gago le le lebaganeng le diphologolo Fa ke tla mo dikgannyeng tsa gagwe, ke supegetse Tona tse di tshwenyang; la problem animals. Rona kwa gore, o na le namane e tona ya tiro. Dikgang tsa gago ga Kgaolong ya rona ya Boteti, re na le diofisi tse di neng o ka ke wa di kgona o le nosi, jaaka o di tshwaraganetse di le teng kwa Kumaga, tse di neng di tshwanetse go le maphata a mangwe. Fa maphata ao a ka se ka a tla ka thusa, mme jaanong diofisi tseo ga di na batho. Re batla policies ka bofefo tse di tlaa diragatsang gore dikgang gore o eme ka dinao Tona, o bone gore diofisi tseo di a tsa gago mo lephateng la gago di atlege, go ya go nna bereka gore batho ba kgone go thusiwa nako e le teng, bokete Tona. Ke bua ka kgang e tshwana e ya phetogo diphologolo di se ka tsa ba senyetsa ga tsaya lebaka le le ya loapi, ke kgang e o e tshwaraganetseng le Maphata leele. Fa o ka bula diofisi tsa nna le batho kwa Kumaga, a Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy di tlaa re thusa. Security le Agricultural Development and Food Security. Ke maphata a a botlhokwa thata gore o tshwaragane le Re lebogela terata ya Makgadikgadi e o simolotseng go one mo kgannyeng ya gago, ba itlhaganele ka policies e dira, mme fela o ele tlhoko gore go se ka ga diragala tse di tlaa dirang gore policy ya gago e atlege ka bofefo. jaaka ya ntlha, e e neng ya senngwa ke batho ba itseela Ba Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy solar panels, le se o neng o re o leka go thusa batho ka Security, o ba ikatumetse, ka gore it is in your interest sone sa se ka sa felela se diragetse. Ke tsaya gore fa gore policies tsa bone di tle, gore e ya gago ya climate o ka ema ka dinao wa tshwaragana le balemi-barui, ga change e kgone go diragadiwa. nna le popagano le tshwaragano ya gore terata eo e tlaa tlhokomelwa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Moo go ka re thusa Ke lebile policies tse di tshwanang le National Energy Tona, gore e tle e tlhokomelesege e se ka ya tloga ya re Policy, fa e ka se ke ya goroga, kgotelesego ya tikologo senyegela gape. e ya go tswelela e nna teng, mme wena ka fa o leka climate change, go bona gore o nna mo lefelong le le E nngwe kgang ke ya go bona gore Batswana ba phepa, phefo e e phepa, metsi a le phepa le tse dingwe. tsena mo bojanaleng kwa makgobokgobong. Batho O tlhokana le bone bakaulengwe bao. O tlhokana ba tshwenyegile Tona, ka gore ba fitlhela batho ba le ba agriculture gore ba tle ka bofefo ka National le licenses tse ba neng ba tsaya gore mo nakong ya Agricultural Development Policy, gore kamoso gompieno di setse di fedile, ba tlaabo ba dule. Batho ba Batswana ba bo ba eme ka dinao ba a itshireletsa ipeile ba itirile bo maipaafela kwa makgobokgobong, kgatlhanong le lehuma le letlhoko la dijo. Ba diragatsa dikompone tse di neng di gweba pele foo. A ko o bone mo gotweng smart agriculture mme o tlhokana le batho gore licenses di ntšhafaditswe, le concessions tse di tona bao. O tlhokana le National Transport Policy, e le yone tseo leka go sekaseka gore mafelo a a ka kgaoganngwa e tshwanetseng gore e nne teng fa o bua ka tikologo, ke gone o ka kgonang. Wena tota o remeletse mo green jang, Batswana le bone ba tla ba tsenya tlhogo. O dire climate technology e e tlaa tlisang gore go se ka ga nna thulaganyo ya go nna jalo ka bofefo, Batswana le bone le kgotelesego ya phefo. Ke kopa Tona gore, funds tse ba tle ba boelwe. di tshwanang Green Climate Fund o di emele ka dinao, Se sengwe se o tshwanetseng gore o se ele tlhoko Tona, o bone gore le tsone di a go thusa, di a itlhaganela gore ke kgogakgogano e e nnang teng fa gare ga trusts, di tle di kgone go thusa batho ba rona. morafe le boeteledipele jwa motse. Dikgang tse di re Fa ke tswelela pele, ke supe gore ke a go leboga gore tshwarisitse bothata, e bile di dira gore batho ba se letsomo le bo le buletswe. Le setse le buletswe, e ne e le ka ba boelwa ba ne ba tshwanetse gore ba boelwe. A maikaelelo a phathi ya ga Domkrag, re ne ra solofetsa case in point ke ya kgaolo e ya Khwai, e trust ya bone Batswana mme ra diragatsa seo. Mo letsomong le gape gompieno ke tsayang gore ba ka bo ba gatetse pele ba Tona, diphologolo di mo mafelong a di leng borai mo šhafaditse licenses tsa bone. Fa go tla batho ba ipopa go one, a go sa tlhokafaleng gore di bo di le mo go one. ditlhopha tse di farologaneng, mme e le gore ke batho ba Nna le strategy kana tsamaiso nngwe ya go leka gore trust e le nngwefela, leka go itlhaganelela dikgang tseo dilo tse di fokodiwe ka nngwe tsela, e seng fela ka go o tshwaragane le tsone.

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Gape o tlhokana le thuso ya Ministry o wa Land lefatshe la rona mme ba le bapaditse ba dira gore prices Management le one gore o go thuse, le fefose licences e nne tse e leng gore re le Batswana re ka di kgona. tseo, le shafatse tse di shafadiwang. Go sa nneng jalo Batho ba ne ba ya kwa Ngamiland, Moremi, ba ya kwa Tona go tlaabo jaanong go go baya ka kwa mosing mme re neng re itse gore go ya batho ba ba tswang kwa ntle o ne o dira tiro fela e tona e re tshwanetseng gore re ka fela. Batho ba ile bo Moremi Gorge ba ya bojanaleng, o bo re e akgola gore trusts di hire batho, batho ba bone dirile go tlala ka diatla thata, golo moo ke a go lebogela. ditiro. Re se ka ra lelela ruri fela ka gore ga gona ditiro. Ba Botswana Tourism Organisation (BTO) ba eme ka Ke leboge thata gore jaaka ke ne ke bolela ke re o dinao, re itse gore kana bajanala ba ba tswang kwa tlhokana le maphata a mangwe, o tlhokana le go bona ntle, gantsi ba ba tlang kwa bo Ngamiland, Moremi le gore renewable energy programme e nna teng. Jaanong Kasane, ke bagolo ba ba retired. Mme o itse gore bagolo, ikaege thata ka gore ke yone fela e e ka go thusang mo ka ke bone ba e leng gore ba tshabelelwa ke go angwa kgannyeng e ya climate change gore tiriso ya marang a ke COVID thata e bile e ba tseele matshelo, ga go ye go letsatsi, ba ba ka thusanang le wena mo kgannyeng e a nna motlhofo gore o bone tourists tseo di tla ka bofefo ba bonale ba gatetse pele. Otherwise wena ga o kake wa jo bo kgonagalang. Le fa molemo o ka nna teng, go tlile kgona go ntsha maduo ka Climate Change Policy fa tse go tsaya nako, mme ke kopa gore o nne le marketing dingwe tse tsone di saletse kwa morago. strategies tsa gore ga o ye go nna le jone bontsi jone joo jwa tourists tsa bagolo. Ke bo ke leboge Tona gore nna o iteke, madi ga a lekana, projects di tlaa nna di ntse di tlhaela fale le fale. O a Fa ke tsena mo go ya diphologolo, Modulasetilo kwa itse gore dilelo di dintsi; tshenyo ya diphogololo le go kgaolong ya me ya Mmadinare re fa gare ga diphologolo duelwa ga batho ka nako ga go yo. Ke dingwe tsa dilo segolo bogolo ditlou. Fa go sale go dirwa letamo le le tse e leng gore re a di itse mme maiteko a gago a a bonala tonatona mo Botswana la Dikgathong go bo dirwa le Tona o le mosha mo lephateng le le mo Palamenteng. O la Letsibogo, go re bileditse ditlou tse dintsintsi mo e dirile go le gontsi. Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. leng gore di fetotse matshelo a rona, ga re sa tlhole re lema. Le gone go rua fela, re tshaba le go ya merakeng, MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Molebatsi and di dintsintsi fela. Meraka e tshwana le bo Mpazane le would be followed by Honourable Reatile. Mmatau go thata, di fetotse matshelo a rona. Jaanong re ASSISTANT MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, ne re kopa gore a metse e e tshwanang bo Mmadinare, TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR MOLEBATSI): Ke Robelela, Tshokwe, Damuchejenaa le Tobane kana se a leboga Modulasetilo. Modulasetilo, mma ke simolole ke mo Makgoa ba ka reng we are a wealth rich area ka go leboga Tona e bile ke mo ema nokeng ka kopo e but poverty stricken communities. Di re humanegisitse, a e dirang ya madi. Ke mo leboga gore ke mongwe wa ga re sa tlhole re na le temo. Mme re ne re kopa gore Matona a e leng gore ke le Mopalamente wa Mmadinare, one mafelo a ke a buang a, gongwe re nne le trusts. Le ke motho yo o neng a butse pelo thata, a reetsa ka gore re thuse gore re dire trusts mo go one mafelo a. Trust gone kwa Mmadinare kwa re na le opportunities tse nngwe le nngwe e nne le quota ya yone ka gore botshelo dintsi tsa tourism. E ne e le la ntlha, kana ke itumelele bo fetogile. Gongwe jaanong re nne le quota ya ditlou go bona re bua sengwe mme se bo se diragala. E kare ka metse yone e, motse mongwe le mongwe o kgone go golo moo go ka bulegela le mo maphateng a mangwe. dira letseno ka go rekisa ditlou tsone tse gore re kgone gore re itirele matshelo. For the first time re bona go ntshiwa diteseletso kana go dirwa Expression of Interest (EOI) gore re dirise Ke a ngongorega, go na le lephata la gago le le dirang matamo a rona a Letsibogo. Ke itse gore ya Dikgathong trusts, le bonya. Re sale re leka go dira trust kwa ga e ise e tswe mme fela ngwana o simolola go tsamaya Tshokwe, Robelela le kwa Damuchujenaa, mme go step by step. Se ke a se lebogela. bonya tota. Gongwe le eme ka dinao le re thuse gore re kgone go nna le trusts. Kana itsholelo ya lefatshe la rona e ikaegile thata, re a itse mo ditswammung le mo bojanaleng. Re itse gore Ke batla gore ke bue ke menne phatla, ke tshwenngwa ke COVID-19 e re diretse mathata mme ke lebogela gore gore fa re ya kwa diphuthegong tsa mafatshefatshe tse di e rile fa COVID-19 e re direla mathata, lephata le la tshwanang tsa bo Convention on International Trade in ga Mma Kereng la ema ka dinao la simolola to market Endangered Species (CITES) o fitlhela e le gore batho domestic tourism fela thata. Re le bantsi re ne re sa itse ba e leng gore ga ba na ditlou mo mafatsheng a bone,

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ke bone ba tsayang ditshwetso ka gore re dire eng ka Mma ke leboge Palamente ka molao wa Environmental ditlou tsa rona. E le gore ba tlaabo ba bribe mafatshe a Impact Assessment (EIA), o o neng wa tla ka September, mangwe a Africa gore ba tlhophe gore re se ka ra rekisa ra o fetisa mme Tautona ka November a o saena. Hei! ditlou tsa rona, re se ka ra fokotsa ditlou tsa rona. Ke ne golo mo ke kgato e tona thata. ke re, fa go kgonagala gore re tswe from these groups kana mo bo CITES, a go diragale jalo. Ke gore motho Rona kwa Ministry wa rona wa Peeletso, Papadi le fela yo e leng gore ga a na le fa e le tlou e nngwefela a Madirelo go na le selo gatwe doing business. Gone moo bo a tsaya ditshwetso ka lefatshe le le nang le ditlou le fela go dira gore re nne le matshwao gore sengwe se e tshwana bo Mmadinare. Let us abandon this diplomacy neng e le gore ke impediment kana se kganela gore o ka gore they bribe mafatshe a mangwe to vote against dire kgwebo, se tshwana le yone EIA, go ya go re dira us, golo moo re go lebelele. gore re nne le matshwao, gongwe re move steps from number 87 gore re ye teng. Mma ke leboge Letsibogo and Shashe Recreational Dam Tourism go bo e eme ka dinao. O sale o ntsholofetsa fela MR CHAIRPERSON: Minister, you are left with two ngwaga o o fetileng o simologa fa re bua ke go raya minutes. ke re ke kopa gore go dirwe sengwe ka matamo a rona MR MOLEBATSI: Mo maphateng a mangwe, re na mme re bona go diragala sengwe. O ntshitse Expression le bothata kwa BPC. Sengwe se se re isang kwa tlase of Interest, we have identified the sites e bile o solofela mo Doing Business Index ke motlakase. Fa nne le gore this will create ditiro di le 599 le gone process bone ba ka tsosa dinao, re ne re ka lebiwa re tsamaya ya teng e tlaa re ka May e bo e setse e fedile. Se ke a kgakala re le lefatshe. Ke selo se sentle fela thata se re se lebogela fela thata. Ke nngwe ya dilo tse ke tlaa di se lebogelang mmaetsho. supang ke le Mopalamente gore ke eme ka dinao, we Mmaetsho, ke go lebogele gore o buile le ka Agro have created ditiro through tourism, mme se ke ne ke Tourism Guidelines gore re tlaa simolola go dirisa se tshwaraganetse le wena Tona Kereng. Ke go leboga masimo a rona gore re tsenye dikgwebo tsa bojanala fela thata. mo masimong a rona. O rile guidelines di teng di tloga Go nale e nngwe ya location of concession kwa bo di tswa e bile di ranolelwa kwa Setswaneng. Seo ke a Moremi Game Reserve. Kana jaaka re sa tswa go bua se lebogela. Ke selo se sentle thata gore masimo a re Batswana ba ntse ba kgaphetswe kwa ntle ka gore le sa kgoneng go a lema ka gore ditlou di a re senyetsa, bone they can take part in this industry. Ke itse gore go gongwe motho a tsenye diphuduhudunyana di ka nna ne go na le molao o mongwe fa go dirwa tsone tenders tharo gone foo, a di tlhokomelele gone foo, a di nose tsone tse. Ga ke itse gore a o santse o le teng, o ne o re metsi gone foo. Ke selo se Batswana ba se amogelang the tenant that operate a le gone foo fa o ne o ka mo kwa dikgaolong tsa rona. Re tlaa rotloetsa batho gore ba gaisa ka tender, go ne gotwe a tseye tender ya gago a dire jalo. Ka a le kalo Modulasetilo, ke a go leboga. Ke e kope, to match you gore a kgone go… ke gore it was go ema nokeng Mma Kereng. Ke a leboga. so uncompetitive. E ne e le selo se o neng o bona gore MR CHAIRPERSON: Tanki Honourable Minister. se beetswe batho ba ba beilweng gore e nne sennelaruri Honourable Reatile. gone foo. …Silence… Lephata la gago le dira thata, ke utlwa o re you have identified three sites kwa Moremi Game Reserve, ga go MR CHAIRPERSON: Fa e le gore Honourable Reatile a lekana. Batswana ba batla go tsena mo industry eo, a ga a yo, Honourable Kapinga. di oketsege. …Silence… Ke lemoga gape gone gore go na le tse dintsi tse o di MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kapinga! dirileng tsa campsites; 100 per cent citizen owned companies are going to take part; ke tiro e ntle thata. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Batho ba opposition ba Ke dumela in empowering Batswana, ke tletse gone tšhaisitse. mo Palamenteng. Fa o dira jaana o ntlhatswa ngati, ke itumela fela thata, o tsamaya sentle. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Dr Tshabang.

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DR TSHABANG (NKANGE): Thank you Mr e e jelwe ke tau, phiri kana nkwe. Re kopile gore Chairperson. Re teng. Mma ke go leboge Mr turnaround time ya gago le yone e nne bofefo. Chairperson. Honourable Minister, le wena ke go leboge ka kopo madi e o e beileng Palamente e pele. Mma ke boele gape kwa phologolong e nngwe e e Selo santlha, ga go gakgamatse ke simolola ka kgang ya tshwenyang. Re go kopile gore o tle o tswe ka plan mo ditlou, human/wildlife conflict. Re tshwenngwa ke ditlou ditshweneng. Ditshwene ga di jewe mmaetsho e bile ga kwa re tswang teng le dikgaolo tse dingwe. E bile o setse di na tourist value. Ga re itse gore le di sireleditseng o buile gore o lemogile gore go na le ditlou, mme e bile eng, di a tsala, di tletse, di senya mo masimong go feta o na le strategy se e leng gore you are going to manage selekanyo. E bile o kare di botlhale go feta motho. Re kgotlhakgotlhano ya batho le diphologolo kana leruo la kopa gore go tle go nne le strategy ka wa re o na le gago la diphologolo. Strategy seo ga se clear gore o ya sone, re bone gore o tlaa re thusa jang ka ditshwene. go se dira jang ka gore le mo nakong ya gompieno go Di gasame lefatshe le lotlhe. Fa e le kwa kgaolong ya tshwana fela le before o tla; diphologolo di a oketsega me gone go worse. Barui ba dipodi ba jetswe leruo, le tshenyo ya dipholologo e a oketsega. Re ne re tsaya mme ba ba lemileng ditshwene di phakela di tsena mo gore e tlaa re fa dipula di le dintsi jaana, diphologolo masimong a bone. Re ipotsa gore wena seemo se o tlaa di tlaa boela kwa morago, mme gompieno di ntse di a se rarabolola (address) jang ka gore o sale o re boleletse oketsega. Fa re bua jaana, di a tsena mo masimong. Ke gore o tlaa tla ka strategy? tsaya gore go thata go itse gore strategy se o reng o tlaa Se sengwe Mr Chairperson, ke bua le Tona, ke harvesting se dirisa ke sefe gore le rona re se tlhaloganye, re tle re of phane. O itse gore Batswana ba ithusa thata ka phane, nne le buy-in kana re se sale morago. Ka fa go ntseng ka especially at the areas tsa rona mme go tsene kgang e teng, ga re bone strategy seo sentle. nngwe gore go bapala phane o tshwanetse gore o bo o na le permit. Ga re ganane le permit mmaetsho. Kgang Sa bobedi ke compensation ya tshenyo ya diphologolo. ya permit e a tshwenya ka gore guidelines tsa yone ga O rile o tlaa ya go tla ka schedule sa compensation di a tlhamalala sentle. E bile e simolotse go tura mo e guidelines se se ntšha, nakokgolo ke eno. E ne ya re leng gore ba ba diatla dikhutshwane ba ba tshwanetseng ka September wa re o tlaabo o ntshitse schedule seo ka gore ba ka bo ba ithusa ka phane ba e rekisa ba bona December. Ka December o ne o re ngwaga o o simologa letsenonyana, madi a ba tshwanetseng gore ba a duele o tlaa ntsha schedule seo. Re mo go March, the first e nna a bo P200.00 go ya kwa godimo. Ga a sa tlhole quarter ya ngwaga e a fela, mme ga re bone schedule. Re a letla. Ke gore go turu mo e leng gore le phane e o ne re solofetse mo schedule seo gore o rile o tlaa oketsa yang go e harvest, sometimes ga o kgone go bona ene diphologolo tse di senyang ka gore bo mathinthinyane, P200.00 e le dipoelo tsa phane. Re kopa gore a ko o e ditshwene le diphiri di ne di sa tsenngwa mo schedule sekaseke. Le supervision ya batho ba ba tlang ba tswa seo. Le gompieno re go emetse gore re tlile go se emela kwa dikgaolong tse dingwe ba ya kwa dikgaolong tsa go fitlhelela leng? rona ba ya go bapala phane a ko e nne boketenyana, e nne podimatseba ka gore batho ba tla fela ba gasagasama Gape re ne re kopile gore o tsenye lentswana mo fela le lephane, ga ba na interest mo environment, ga ba compensation e o e dirang le gore tshenyo e e kanakana tle ka portable toilets le eng se se supang gore ba tlile e e dirwang ke diphologolo re tle re bone sengwenyana to harvest phane ka kelelelo e e rileng, ba re tlogelela ka gore o kare o batla go disetsa mo masimong a leswe, ba tlogela sengwe le sengwe le dipampiri le tse rona. So, it looks like compensation e kwa tlase. O ne ba di gasagasang le lephane le lotlhe. Ke ne ke kopa o dumetse gore mo schedule se o tlaa ya go e lebelela gore supervision ya teng a ko e nne e e tseneletseng, e mme nakokgolo ke eno, diphologolo di tsweletse di a se ka ya nna e kete fela ba tlaa itirisa ka bobone. E bile senya, mme compensation e kwa tlase. Ba Wildlife fa ba ba bangwe ba tla ba sena permits ba tlile to harvest mo biditswe go tla go sekaseka tshenyo, ba tsaya lebaka le mafelong a rona mme rona re na le permits. Ke sa reye le leele. Re lelela mo go wena gore a ko ba tsose dinao, gore phane ke ya rona fela re le nosi. Ke tsaya fela gore ba taboge ba tle go re thusa ka nako. go tshwanetse gore go nne le lenaneo le le papametseng le le supang supervision ya harvesting of phane. Diphologolo tse dingwe o tlaa fitlhela e le gore fa phiri e go jetse gatwe o beye letlalo la phologolo e e jelweng Kgang e nngwe ke tourism strategy. Re a itse gore mo foo, mme ba Wildlife ba ya go tla after two months go sa Botswana we have been promoting mo gotweng low tlhole go na le evidence e e bonalang gore a phologolo volume high cost gore tota ga le batle bontsintsi jwa

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tourism mme e bile gape le batla go tura gore le kgone to MR CHAIRPERSON: I was informed Honourable attract madi a mantsi. Strategy ga se support Batswana Whip, liability from the Clerks’ table that Rre Moagi o a ka gore kana ga re na madi a mantsintsi a e leng gore ntshiwa, o emisediwa ka His Honour the Vice President, o ka book hotel gotwe ke P15, 000.00 ka letsatsi kwa that is what I was told. makgobokgobong. Re kopa gore le ko le lebelele kgang e sentlesentle gore tota mme fa re ka adjust volumes tsa MR KABLAY: Nnyaa, ga e a nna jalo. ya kwa godimo, prices tsa ya kwa tlase. MR CHAIRPERSON: If that is the case, I will take it Gape se sengwe tota se dirwa ke gore dikompone tse di from you. Honourable Moagi! tsamaisang kwa makgobokgobong ke tsa Makgoa. Ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: O mpolaile Chief Whip. tsa batho ba ba kwa ntle ga Botswana. Ba di tsamaisa ba le kwa ntle ga Botswana. Jaanong ba dirisa market o o MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN mo Europe, America, kana South Africa o bontsi e leng TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR wa Makgoa ba ba nang le madi. MOAGI): Thank you Mr Chairperson. Ke leboge Chief Whip go ntshireletsa. Le nna ke akgele mo kgannyeng e Ba ba kgonang go ipolokela madi a ba ka tlang kwa e teng. Re go leboge Tona Kereng ka fa o adileng kgang makgobokgobong ka one. Exchange rates favors them, ka teng, e bile ke emelele jaana go go ema nokeng mo go ba tla ba na le Dollars ba fetolela kwa Dipuleng. Bone se o buileng ka sone ka lephata la gago. Kana ke lephata gongwe 15,000 ole ga se sepe fela, mme mo Motswaneng, le e leng gore ga le kgakala thata, ka re tlhakanetsse ke selo se se bokete, se tota o tshwanetseng go se thematic group, re bua ka ditswammung, ditsatlholego lebelela. Ke tsaya gore re batla to encourage Batswana jalojalo. Ka jalo, go na le kamano e ntsi mo maphateng to tour, le bone ba tsenye letseno mo tourism. Re bone a mabedi a. Ke supe fela gore mme ga ke ne ke ama ka COVID gore e rile re emisa fela batswakwa ba ba dintlha ka bontsi, but ke tlaa ama dingwe tse ke bonang nang le madi a mantsi, ba ba kgonang to push yone… gore mme go na le dilo tse di tshwanetseng go fetoga. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Member, you have Re tle re bone gore di fitlhelele maduo ka pela ka fa re one minute, 43 seconds. bonang ka teng.

DR TSHABANG: Ehe. So re batla gore at least go nne Ke lebile kgang ya eco-tourism, ke leba Kgaolo ya le strategy to adjust gore le Batswana ba kgone go nna Ramotswa, e ke bonang e na le potential e ntsi thata, le letseno. Re bone ka COVID gore tourism industry fa ke lebile kwa metsi a tshologang teng, kwa Baratani, suffered mo go neng go utlwisa botlhoko thata go sena kwa Segoro. Ke lebile kwa manong a leng teng kwa operations le tourists. Go bontshitse gore tota gompieno Manyelanong, le tse dingwe tse dintsinyana kwa bo we have to turn around ka go tsenya Batswana mo teng ga tourism. Rankepa le Metsimaswaana. Golo fa re tshwanetse go leba sengwe gore kana re deal le makgabisanaga, Se sengwe sa bofelo ka gore nako e tsamaile, ke ditswammung kana sepe fela se sentle sa tlholego. kgang ya land degradation. O tshwanetse gore in your Go na le batho ba ba akareditseng one mafelo a, e conservation strategy, o lebelele dinoka tse go tsewang leng the communities that live in these areas. Selo se motlhaba phetelela. O bo o lebelela le gore strategy sa le nna ke se itemogetseng go tswa ka kwa lephateng gago sa overgrazing in areas tse e leng gore we need to la ditswammung, ke se amanya e bile ke bona le kwa conserve them, ke eng, ka gore tota o kare lefatshe le makgabisanageng, se ka ithutiwa ke gore, re tshwanetse kokonelwa ke land degradation. O tshwanetse gore tota go fetola gore re ntse re lebile gore go tlaa tla batho o nne le strategy through climate change. Thank you Mr foo, ba bo ba tla ba tsaya bontle jo re nang le jone, rona Chairperson. re bo re saletswe fela ke gore re bereke mo go jone. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Dr Tshabang, tla Go na le moalo o mongwe o o bidiwang gotwe, ‘the re go baakanyetse Setswana. Setswana sa re dikobo fighting for relevance, creating shared value.’ O lebelela dikhutshwane, e seng diatla dikhutshwane. gore a re tswe mo go reng ramadi o tlaa tla a bo a re neela sengwe. Kana a aga mokgotshwanyana foo, go DR TSHABANG: Ke ranola go tswa kwa Sekalakeng. bo gotwe ke jaaka re itumetse. Ba tshwanetse gore ba MR KABLAY: Procedure. Thank you sir. Mr dire mo gotweng earning your social licence gore ba Chairperson, o tlodile Honourable Moagi, o ka bo a bo ba tshela le rona fa, re dira teng, ka gore le bone buile pele ga ga Molebatsi. ba tlaabo ba dirile letseno ka ditsarona. E bile rotlhe

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re bo re kopanela go sekaseka gore lefelo le se ka la ke eng, go a tla go sekasekwa, go bo gotwe, nnyaa, mme babalelwa ke se se tlaabong se dirwa ka tlhabololo e e re a bona go senyegile, o tlaa phimolwa dikeledi. A bo tlaabong e tsena foo. Selo se se ka tla jaana fa e le gore e le gore fa o tshwanelwa ke gore o bone compensation, banni ba golo foo, a e ka tswa e le banana ba koo ba gatwe tlisa lease le Omang kwa Serowe, fa ke tsaya ofisi ipopile, dikoporase kana trust, ke bone re ba neelang ya Serowe e le yone example. Dilo tse o ka di romela marapo a. Re bone gore re tsamaya le bone mo go se fela electronically ka email o le gongwe le gongwe kwa re tlaabong re batla go se dira. Fa re batla go dira mo o teng. A bo e le gore fa ba setse ba tlisa madi a gago, go bidiwang syncromine, go tsamaya jaana batho ba o ba romelela account number and they credit. Jaanong palame karakinyana ke eo e tshwaraganya dithaba, golo fa re ka se ke ra dirisa digitalisation gone fa, go nna mo morafe o tshwanetse go itse gore re ja eng mo teng. gotwe Omang ene o tshwanetse go mo tlisa ka namane, Ene yo o tlaabong a tla ka lenaneo la kgwebo, le ene a re mmatla a tshela a reng, nnyaa, motho o ya go palama itse gore o ja eng mo teng. Botlhe batho ba ba babedi e bile gongwe a ya go tsaya compensation e kwa tlase ba, ba tshwanetse ba itumele gore golo mo go tle go ga madi a a senyang a tsaya mosepele. These are the kgone go tlhabologa, mme e bile go babalesege. Ka gore simple things which will appeal to Motswana kwa gae fa go sa itumedise bangwe, ba ya go leka go senyetsa yo o santseng a lela selelo sa gore o senyeditswe ke ene yo o batlang gore a dire, jaanong bojanala bo bo diphologolo tseo. Omang fela le maloba go ne go tulwe bo sa nne teng, mongwe le mongwe a bo e le gore o e bile ga re sa tlhole re tlhoka to certify. Jaanong fa o mo tswa ka nnoto, e bo e nna a failed project. Ke sone se ke rurifaditse (certified) ka lawyer e bile o tempile, o scan rotloetsang thata, re thuse ka melawana e e teng, e re ka o bo o isa by email, ke eng go tswa foo o tshwanelwa ke e neelang community organisations tse di teng, banana gore o bo o santse o mo tsaya ka seatla gotwe o mo ise kana dikoporase tse di tlaabong di ipopile gore fa re le kwa kgannyeng? A re tlhofofaletse Motswana gore a tle kwa Mogobane, re batla go tlhabolola kwa letamong, re a kgone go bona phimolo dikeledi ya gagwe ka nako. dira se le se. Yo o tlaabong a re thusa ka madi, o re neela Ke itumelela lenaneo la gago la hunting le o le butseng, sentle re itumele, le rona re itumetse re le community le le tlaa thusang thata ka concessions tse di ntseng jalo. gore re tle re kgone go tsweledisa ditlhabololo tse di Ke bo ke re mme mo teng ga the quotas tse di neng ntseng jalo. di ntse di bolelwa maloba mo ipapatsong e e neng e le teng, di supa fa diphologolo tse dingwe tse ditona O buile ka kgang ya dam tourism, e botlhokwa thata ka jaaka tlou le tse dingwe di seyo mo teng. Ke tsaya gore re ne re itemogela mo malatsing fa go ntse go na le gore e santse e le dingwe tse di sekasekiwang. Fa re lockdowns, gotwe se yeng koo, se kgobokaneng, batho ba ntsha megopolo, nngwe ya se se ka diragalang ke gore tsamaya mo matamong a bo Mogobane, Mathikithwane, communities tse diphologolo tse di leng mo go tsone, re Rankepa, Metsimaswaana ba tswa mo mafelong a a leka gore ba ka benefit, ke communities tse gongwe go farologanyeng. Golo mo go go supegetsa gore there is ka tweng, apply as a community, whether as a trust kana potential for tourism gone foo, e e ka tlisang letseno. Ke eng fela e bo e re fa ba fentse tlou eo for instance, ke santse ke boelela kgang ya gore e tlisa letseno, e fitlhela bone ba ka kgonang gore ba e rekisetse bo ramadimadi batho gone foo, a batho bao le bone ba benefit. Go se ka ba ba ka tsayang dinaka ba tsaya eng, ba dira dilo tse di ga tla ramadi a tswa koo fela, a bo a tla a tseela batho ntseng di buiwa kgantele ke bakaulengwe batlotlegi. Ba bontle joo, ka ntlha ya gore ene o kgonne to apply at the kgone go ja sengwe e le community ka phologolo e e ba ministry. Ke tsone dilo tse ke ratang re di tlhakanela. Go senyetsang kana ka phologolo e e mo kgaolong ya bone, bo go tsena dilo tse di ka tsenyang madi ra thusa morafe mme gape ba bo ba nna le letseno le le ka tlhabololang rotlhe le Goromente gore ditlhabololo tsa motse di nne mafelo a bone. Ke sone se ke reng, gongwe e ka timiwa teng. Speedboats fa e le gore di nna teng, all those sports individuals jaaka go ne gotwe re ikopele (apply), but e tsa metsi, waterboarding sports, di bo di ka thusa mo bo e fiwa the community... itsholelong ya the local community. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, you have O buile gore mo ditogamaanong tse dingwe tsa gago, 1 minute 35 seconds. o tlaabo o dirisa digitalisation. A maranyane a, re a simolole mo ditirelong tse di setseng di le teng. Ke tlaa MR MOAGI: Ee rra. Tse ka tsela e e ntseng jalo di ka go fa sekai fela ka a very simple transaction e e imelang kgonang go thusa. Kgang e tona rra e farmers ba lelang the client. Mo human-wildlife conflict, fa o senyeditswe ka yone ba re e romile ke gore, kwa dipolaseng batho ke ditlou, sepe fela se di se sentseng, kana ke terata kana ba lwela diphologolo, diterata le tsone mo gongwe ke

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kgang e go lwelwang diphologolo. Le re thuse thata mmoneng gore o botlhale thata, tiro e ya gagwe o kare ka gore, molao o teng wa re diphologolo fa di le mo o na le dingwaga di le 10 mo go yone. Fa o ya kwa go polaseng ya gago ke tsa gago, jaanong ba bangwe ba ene o kopa thuso o a go reetsa tota Mr Chairperson, kgaola diterata gore ba tle ba di tseye, mme ke selo se o gore Mopalamente a re mathata ke eng. A go reetse a bo ka re thusang le wena ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. a go fe advice gore nnyaa, go ka dirwa se le se. Motho yo o ntseng jalo e le moteledipele Mr Chairperson, ke Ke lebogele the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) motho yo o botlhokwa thata le batho ba kgaolo ya me ba Act, ka gore jaanong e a thusa le ka kwa ditswammung mo rata thata ba re fa a bua mo television sefatlhego sa kwa mining gore e kgone go fefosa applications tsa gagwe se tletse ditshego, go supa gore o rata batho thata. batho, re kgone go neela batho ditirelo nako e le teng. Mr Chairperson, ke kopa gore a tswelele jalo rraetsho, a Ke a leboga, ke ema nokeng budget proposals tsa gago. tle a direle tšhaba ya rona ya Botswana. Thank you Mr Chairperson. …Silence… MR CHAIRPERSON: Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Chobe Honourable Minister Shamukuni. MR KABLAY: Mr Chairperson, ka ke ne ka bua maloba rraetsho ke lebile kgaolo ya me gore, kana e ...Silence... tlaabo e le sa ntlha Goromente a e thusa ka thulaganyo e ya makgabisanaga. Re ntse re sena makgabisanaga mo MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Shamukuni. Kgaolong e ke e emetseng ya Letlhakeng-Lephephe. ...Silence... Jaanong, rraetsho ngwaga o Modimo o ne a re segofatsa. Ke supe gore nnyaa matlotlo mo Kgaolong MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Shamukuni, fa a ya Letlhakeng-Lephephe a teng. Mr Chairperson, ke seyo ke bitsa Honourable Kapinga. bua ka Lephephe Pan, Sojwe Pan le Shadishadi Pan tse e reng fa pula e nele go tlala metsi. Kopo ya me e ke MR KAPINGA (OKAVANGO): Thank you very kileng ka e kopa, ka e bua le Minister a bo a roma batho much Mr Chairperson... ba tsamaya ba ya go bona gore tota matšha a go ka dirwa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa Mr Chairperson, eng ka one, ke gakolola Minister gore, kana batho ba fa Shamukuni a seyo tsenya yo mongwe in our list. kgaolo ya me ba beile tsebe ba batla go itse gore tota gatwe go tlaa simololwa leng, thulaganyo e tlaa dirwa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, re tsholeditse le leng. Ka re go abela madi Minister, ke tsaya gore o tlaa rona re mo Palamenteng... ya Lephephe, Sojwe le Shadishadi go bona gore banana ba kgaolo ele re ka ba thusa jang gore ditiro tse di seyong HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ee, kana ke slot sa rona. tse di kanakana, gongwe ba ka bona sengwe gore ba tle HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, control ba tshele Mr Chairperson, ka gore ke one maitlamo a the House ga o ka ke wa tla go laolwa ke bo Honourable phathi ya ga Domkrag e ke e emetseng, a e rileng fa re Morwaeng. ipapatsa ra bua jalo le Batswana gore fa le ka re tlhopha, re tsile go tokafatsa matshelo a lona. Ke tsaya gore se Mr HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ke slot sa rona. Chairperson, ke sone tshimologo ya go tlhofofatsa le go tokafatsa matshelo a batho ba Letlhakeng-Lephephe. Ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga le ka ke la se lwela. sone se ke neng ke re ke se bue. Mr Chairperson should take control, that is what we are saying. Mr Chairperson, ke bue gore e rile ka 2017 re ne ra solofediwa cultural village kwa motseng wa MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kablay, he would Diphuduhudu, Diphuduhudu rraetsho ke settlement ya then be followed by Honourable Kapinga if Shamukuni Basarwa. Re ne ra fiwa setsha gorecultural village e, re is not there. ye go e direla mo teng. Ditso tsa Basarwa re ye go leka MR KABLAY (LETLHAKENG-LEPHEPHE): gore di nne teng di se ka tsa nyelela, e re kamoso bana Thank you Mr Chairperson. Rraetsho le nna ke leboge ba ntse ba gola jaana ba ye go bona ditso tsa batsadi mokaulengwe wa me Minister. Ke supa fa e le Minister ba bone, gore batsadi ba e ne ya re fa ba tsoma tau ba yo re mmonang a tla ka matlhagatlhaga, yo o itseng tiro dire jang, e ne ya re fa ba nna mo ntlong, ntlo ya bone ya gagwe jaaka ke mo lebeletse a na le ngwaga fela e bo e ntse jang, fa ba apaya ba apeela fa kae, fa ba a ja le dikgwedi tse pedi mo ofising, mme ke motho yo ke ba ne ba a ja eng. Ke sekgwa se se tshwereng khumo e

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ke buang ka yone, mme re ne ra dumalana gore setsha senang ngwao, ke moka e latlhegileng. Jaanong ke a se se ya go tlhabololwa ke Lephata la Tourism, mme le kopa Minister e re o sekaseka, a museum mmaetsho o jaana Mr Chairperson, ga gona sepe se se diragalang. agiwe kwa Letlhakeng, dilo tse ke buang ka tsone tse, Ke gakolola Minister gore, fa o fitlhela kopo eo e le mo re tle re di tlhokomele sentle, dikokomane tsa rona tafoleng ya gago, a e tsweledisiwe mmaetsho, batho ba tle ba bone gore re ne re tshela jang. Ke a leboga ba Diphuduhudu ba sa le ba e letetse le bone ba tle ba Modulasetilo. kgone go akola dikhumo tsa lefatshe la bone. MR KAPINGA (OKAVANGO): Thank you Mr Sa bobedi mmaetsho, ke go leboge gore le simolotse Chairperson for giving me this opportunity. Ke tla park kwa Letlhakeng, ke a e bona e simologile gore bua ka dilo di le tharonyana fela. Santlha rraetsho, re tle re ruele diphologolo fale le fale mo teng. Ke ke re batho ba Okavango ba rata tikologo ya bone le maiteko a matona Mr Chairperson, a e leng gore kgaolo diphologolo tse Modimo a ba segofaditseng ka tsone. ya me jaaka ke ntse ke bua ke gone makgabisanaga E rile maloba ke ntse ke bua le bone, ba rile ke tlise a tsenang mo go yone. Ke park e re tlaa lekang gore molaetsa fa mmaetsho. Molaetsa fela o o tlhamaletseng, re nne le diphologolo, mme ke kope Minister gore re gore ga ba itumelele the levels tsa compensation tse kopa dikamela mmaetsho. O re kopele dikamela kwa ba di neelwang fa ba senyeditswe ke diphologolo Tsabong, ka mo kgaolong ya rona ya Southern ga gona fa kana fa go nnile le dikgobalo kana dintsho tse e leng dikamela di leng teng. Batho ba batla go bona dikamela, gore were caused ke diphologolo. Tsholofelo ya me ba ya Tsabong ba ya go di bona koo go le kgakala, mmaetsho ke gore dikgang tse di sa bolong go nna di mme fa dikamela tse ka gore re ya go nna le park kwa ntse di buiwa gotwe the compensation rates are being Letlhakeng, re bo re di atumetsa kwa Letlhakeng gore reviewed, re tla goroga mo nakong e e leng gore you di tle di kgone gore di re thuse re nne le madi a e reng will announce compensation rates tse di supang gore fa ba tsile go di bona jaana Mr Chairperson, a kgone totatota Goromente wa gago, values matshelo a batho go tsena. Ke se rraetsho re se kopang, re kopela ruri ba ba tshelang le diphologolo, jaaka le re re tshele gore dikamela tse di se ka tsa re tlhaela, e re kamoso go le diphologolo jaana, mme e bile go sena ka fa re ka itsewe gore nnyaa Mopalamente wa Letlhakeng o ne a kgaoganang le tsone ka gore ke dilo tse re tsholwang di kopa gore a dikamela di tle kwa Letlhakeng re tle re ye le mo environment ya rona. go di ...(Inaudible)... Se sengwe Minister, ke kopa gore o tsholetse kgotsa Sa bofelo Mr Chairperson, ke kope gore re le kgaolo o thapolole lebogo la gago ka fa o thusang Lephata la rraetsho re tshwanetse ra nna le museum mo Kgaolong Wildlife ka teng ka ditsompelo tse ba di tlhokang go dira ya rona ya Letlhakeng. Letlhakeng rraetsho kana o a tiro ya bone. Tiro ya go tlhokomela diphologolo, ya go itse gore ke kgaolo e Tona e e anameng, ke kgaolo ya itsa go utswiwa ga diphologolo, ke tiro e e lebaganeng Bakgalagadi. Lephata la Wildlife. Tsholofelo ya me mo go wena ke gore jaaka o le Tona wa bone jaana, o tla ema ka dinao Bakgalagadi le bone ba tshwanetswe ke gore ba nne le gore ba neelwe tse di ba tshwanetseng gore ba dire tiro ditso tsa bone fa di bewang teng, e re kamoso bana ba ya bone ka fa tshwanelong. bone ba ntse ba gola jaana, ba itse gore tota batsadi ba bone ba ne ba tshela jang, e bile ngwao ya bone e ntse Se sengwe Honourable Minister, ke solofela gore jang. Jaanong Mr Chairperson, fa re ne re ka agelwa jaaka o utlwile gore bangwe ba batla go ya go epa oil museum kwa kgaolong e ke e emetseng, o o ka bayang kwa Okavango, o le Tona o o nang le boikarabelo, o sengwe le sengwe, ditso dingwe le dingwe, mananeo o lebaganeng le yone tikologo, o tla ema ka dinao go mangwe le mangwe a morafe wa Bakgalagadi, gore tlhomamisa gore ga go na sepe se se tla dirwang kwa bana jaaka ke ntse ke bua, ba itse gore batsadi ba bone Okavango, se se tla senyang tikologo ya rona, especially ba ne ba tshela jang, ba tle go tsweledisa fa batsadi ba considering gore Okavango is listed as a world heritage bone ba neng ba tlogetse teng. site. Fa ke sa fose, ke yone ya bo lekgolo. Selo seo se setona thata Honourable Minister, ga re batle go bona Gompieno jaaka go ntse rraetsho, bangwe ba a itse, sepe se dirwa, se se ka boang sa kgotlela delta ya rona, bangwe ga ba itse, mme fa re na le fa sengwe le sengwe jaaka nngwe e e neng ya kgotlelesega kwa Nigeria. re se phuthetseng teng, motho o tla tsena foo a feta a bala a bona gore, ehe, batsadi ba me ba ne ba tshela Sa bofelo Minister, ke kopa gore o bue le your jaana, ke tshwanetse selo ke se tsweledise. Tšhaba e e counterpart yo e leng wa tsa lefatshe gore the Trusts

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tse ke dumelang gore ministry wa gago o na le keletso MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL ya go di thusa, di na le dingwagangwaga ba ikopetse RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM lefatshe go ya go dira dikgwebo tsa tourism mo go (MS KERENG): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke lone. Ministry wa lefatshe wa ga Rre Mzwinila, o goga tseye sebaka se fela ke lebogele dikakgelo, ditsiboso, dinao fela mo ke sa go tlhaloganyeng, ga o batle go dikgakololo le malebo, le gotlhe mo bakaulengwe ba neela Community Trusts ditsha tse, ga o batle go neela setseng ba kgaogane le rona ba tsibogela kopo ya me. Ke motlotlo thata go amogela tse tsotlhe gore fa go kopane Batswana, indigenous people ba Okavango. Ga ba batle jalo, dikgakololo, ditsiboso, dikgalemo jalo, le gone mo go ba neela ditsha tse ba saleng ba di kopa gore ba tsene le go itumelelang, le nna go a nkgothatsa Modulasetilo. mo kgwebong ya tourism. Ga ke itse gore go emetswe gore go tle Batswana ba ba tswang kae, ba ba tlaa Ke tla ya le tsone mme ke soboke fela ke re, mo tlang ba neelwa ditsha tseo, ka gore ba ba nnang kwa tshobokong ya tsone, ke utlwa gore re bua re dumalana Okavango, ga ba a bolo go kopa, ba bangwe since bo gore madi ga a lekana. Madi fa a sa lekana jaana, re dumalana gape gore, lemme lone le, re tla le dirisa gore le 2003, ba ntse ba emetse go fiwa tshono ya gore le bone kgone go kgarametsa mo re ka go kgonang. Re solofela ba participate mo tourism, ba ntse ba dikolosiwa seolo gore e tlaare seemo sa madi se ntse se tokafala, re bo re fela go fitlhelela gompieno. ntse re ka gola. Le lemoga gore madi fa a seyo jaana, mme gone motlhalanyana o ntse o teng, mme e le ka thuso ya Ya bofelo Minister, ke revival of tourism. Bana ba gore re bo re tshwaraganetse go kgarameletsa itsholelo le bantsi ba Okavango, ba latlhegetswe ke ditiro mo ya lefatshe kwa pele. Ke a le leboga bakaulengwe. Le industry yone e ya tourism. Kopo ya bone ke gore o le supile gape gore tshwaragano ya maphata e botlhokwa, Tona yo o gogang kwa pele tourism, o tla tlhomamisa jaaka e bile re bua thata ka maphata a lefatshe, kgotetso gore matshelo a bone a tla boela mo seemong ka go le temothuo, ke selo se re se lemogang. Le dikgang tsa tsosolosa tourism ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng, jaaka gore tota mananeo a re a dirang, a kgone gore a salwe re tsena mo ngwageng o mosha wa madi wa 2021/2022. morago go tlhomamisa gore a ntsha maduo e bile gape Ke dumela gore o neetswe madi, o neetswe sebaka sa ga a re senyetse le lone lemmenyana lone la madi, gore o ka dira se se tlhokafalang gore tourism e boe e monitoring in general. Ke tsaya gore ke dikgang tse di tsoge, e bo e fete seemo se e nneng e le mo go sone pele broad kana tse di phuthologileng. fa re kopana kgotsa re thulana le mathata a COVID-19. Ke simolole ka Honourable Majaga. O itumeletse mo Ga ke itse gore nako e tsamaya fa kae Mr Chairperson. re setseng re go leka rra, le rona re itumelela ka fa o MR CHAIRPERSON: Thirty seconds. tleng o re tsibose ka teng, o re botse dipotso ka teng, le fa o ka omana rra, mme ka fa o kgona go lemoga se re MR KAPINGA: Ee, mme fa e le gore go setse 30 se lekang, bogolo jang ka dikgang tse di kwa kgaolong seconds Honourable Minister, ke solofela go le gontsi ya gago tsa diphologolo, bo ditlou jalojalo. O amogetse mo go wena. Ke ema nokeng kabo e o e neetsweng thata gore the Environmental Assessment Bill e a thusa e e ya budget, ka tsholofelo ya gore o tla dira se se tla bile e setse e supa gore tota go ntse go le botlhokwa gore e sekasekiwe le policies tsotlhe tse re di tshwereng. Ke tsosolosang matshelo a batho ba Okavango. Ke a leboga supe gore these policies bagaetsho, di tlile go re tlhoka Mr Chairperson. gore di fete mo Palamenteng, a go nne jalo ka Tourism MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, before Policy le Climate Change Policy. Fa go tlhokafala Mr ke bitsa Tona, ke le reye ke re, Speaker ke motho o dira Chairperson tlhe, re tšhaise bosigo di fete. Ke di fitlhela phoso, mme ke kopa gore fa Speaker a dirile phoso, re ke theogela di ntse di le teng, mme kana ke tsone tse di ka re thusang gore re leke go fefosa ka tsela e e ntseng mo gakolole fela ka fa le neng le utlwa Rre Kablay a jalo. gakolola ka teng kgantele, either ka point of procedure kana whatever point. Le se ka la dira jaaka ke ne ke utlwa O rile re lebelele bojanala go feta COVID-19, e re sa le dira kgantele. Ga go berekwe jalo mo Palamenteng. itseng gore yone mme e ya go ema ka nako efe, e ya go fela leng. Tourism Revival Strategy le yone Economic Honourable Members, I now call upon the Honourable Transformation and Recovery Plan, ke tsone tse re Minister of Environment, Natural Resources lebeletseng gore tota re ka tsosolosa itsholelo go feta Conservation and Tourism to reply to the debate. jang COVID-19 gore le fa e le gore e tla sala e ntse e

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le teng, mme gone re ka kgona gore re nne fa godimo bulela dikgwebo mo lephateng. Re ne ra itemogela gore ga yone ka tsela e e ntseng jang, e re ka kgonang go fa gongwe batho ba Modimo ba tlhaelela mo tseleng ka tsholetsa bojanala mo seemong se se tlhokafalang. ntlha ya madi, projects ga di fele, di a diega. Re ntse re sekaseka mo go tseneletseng gore dikompone tse tsa Go supa gore tsa bo transport di botlhokwa, ke banana re di profilesentle, re kgone go di tsenya leitlho, boammaaruri. Fa o sena bogorogelo, ditsela le marogo, ba ka dira eng, ba ka se kgone go dira eng. Fa re ka ba go nna bokete gore re re re ka bua ka bojanala jo bo lomaganya le dikompone tse di tona, ba ka bona bontlha tsweletseng. bongwe jang go fitlhelela ka nako nngwe ba dira. O ne o bua ka go lebogela tsa letsomo; ke supe gore re Fa gongwe bana ba technically ba ka aga. O ka baya tlaabo re lebeletse gore madi a re a dirang a go tweng ditena a aga ntlo mme ga a itse ditsamaiso tsa madi le Conservation Trust Fund e letsomo le tsenyang letseno to manage tenders le contracts. Ke dilo tse re batlang la madi mo go yone, e re thuse gore re kgone go thusa go tsenya letseno mo go reng re ba thuse gore ba ka re bagaetsho gore ba kgone go nna le bokgoni jwa gore ba kgotsofatsa. Ga re ba tlhoboge. ithekisetse kwa mafatsheng. Tourism Licensing Information System (TOLIS) le E rile ngwaga ole e le gone ke theogelang ke ne ke ile yone ke selo se se re thusang gore re kgone go fefosa kwa Safari Club Convention e le motseletsele wa go ditiro, mme e bile mo COVID-19 mesepele e fokotsege. rekisa ditlou, e le auctions tsone tseo. Jaaka le bua, ke boammaaruri gore go ne go sena Batswana ba ba Digital museum; ke solofetse gore museum o o bo o na kgonang gore ba re, ‘re le community ya gore, re na le le facilities tse reng fa motho a tsena mo Gaborone, a trust re ya go ithekisetsa.’ Go ne go ntse go na le batho ise a ye kgakala a bo a ka kgona go bona Botswana o ba ba ba tsamaelang kwa pele. Re tsere tshwetso re le otlhe wa rona mo museum virtually. A kgone go itse lephata gore re tlile go thusa trusts tse gore ba kgone go gore kwa Kgalagadi, fa gotwe setso sa Bakgalagadi go ithekisetsa, go ipeela mo gotweng reserve price le gore tewa eng. Re kgone go supa dijo le ditso e bile gape e le ba buisanye le bareki kwa ntle koo. Ke dilo tse re di nne bokopanelo jo re kgonang go rera tsa setso le dilo lebeletseng. tsa rona tse di re rekisang re le Botswana. Fa go na le cultural villages ka kwa ntle le tsone re tlaabo re ntse re O bo o supa gore dikompone tse dikgolo di tsibogele feed into the digital museum. gore bogolo di neele dikompone tsa Batswana tse di nnyennyane ditirelo. Mma ke fe sekai fela ka kwa The Drought Management Plan rra e tlaabo e le lenaneo Chobe; re eletsa gore nako nngwe go bo go diragala gore le le tlaa re thusang go lwantsha manokonoko a climate makalana mangwe kana dikarolo dingwe tsa bojanala change. Policy le yone e tlaa re thusa ka tsela e e ntseng re bo itse fela gore re tlaa bona Motswana mo teng. jalo. Akanya fela gore bo taxi men fa ba ne ba ka thusiwa, ke Agro-tourism le yone o buile jalo. Jaaka o ne o bua, e fa sekai, gore e nne bone ba ba yang go tsaya bajanala ke utlwa gore Honourable Healy o bua ka gore le kwa airport ba ba isa kwa hotels, e le selo se ba se jang Gaborone re se ka ra mo lebala. Rra, ga re a mo lebala. monate jaaka o ne o supa ka bo mokoro. There is citizen Ke maswabi ka gore nako e re e fiwang ga e ntsi, ga e empowerment ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Ke dilo tse re a lekana gore re ka bua ka mananeo a mantsi. Fa re bua tlaabong re batla gore le rona re fetlhe kana re bulele ka mananeo a bojanala mo Gaborone, game reserve eo bagaetsho ditsela mo bojanaleng. e teng mo mananeong a rona. Re tlaabo re dira game reserve e e ka nnang le ditirelo tse dintsi, itloso bodutu Budget e nyennyane, ke boammaaruri rra. Re tlaa nna ka go farologana. re ntse re tswelela ka go kgothatsa Batswana le go tsosolosa bojanala mo Botswana kana domestic tourism E bile gape go na le Gaborone Nursery e le yone e re dumelang gore e tlaa nna e thiba diphatlha fale le re setseng re le mo dithulaganyong tsa gore go ka fale. E re bontshitse gore re kgona go unyolola mo go simololwa go baakanngwa gore golo ka kwa go nne ntseng go sa itsiwe ka lefatshe la rona. le hotels, restaurants le craft markets ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Le ka kwa Bonnington Farm, ke mangwe a Honourable Healy, re a go leboga rra go bua ka youth mananeo a re a lebeletseng. companies gore ke challenge, ke nnete. E rile re ntsha the infrastructure projects, re ne ra tsenya banana re re Dam tourism; o a e leboga gore e na le boleng, e ka re tsenang fa le tle go re direla ditirelo ka gore re batla go le tsenyetsa letseno.

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Camp sites jaaka re bulela Batswana; o ne o bua gore re The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until se ka ra lebala Gaborone. Wednesday 17th March, 2021 at 2:00 p.m.

Kazungula redevelopment; ke dilo tse di amogelesegang. Le yone redevelopment ya Gaborone; fa o bua ka Main Mall, ke setse ke kile ka kopana le Mayor wa Gaborone City Council gore re buisane gore tota re ka aga Gaborone o o ntseng jang jaaka le bone ba na le mananeo. Tota thulaganyo ya rona e ne e le gore re leka go lomaganya mananeo a rona rotlhe re le maphata gore re kgone go dira trail fela e e ka tswang kwa bo University of Botswana (UB), Old Holiday Inn, e tle e tsena mo museum. E bo e akareditse mo e tla go tsena mo Government enclave. Ke dilo tsa dilo tse re di lebeletseng.

O amogetse National Environmental Fund rra. Go fetlha ditiro go botlhokwa.

Honourable Nkawana, o buile gore ga ke a bua thata ka wage subsidy, mme ke buile ka yone. Ke supile gore e ne e le lenaneo le le neng le leka go fokotsa manokonoko a COVID mo babereking le mo dikgwebong. Gongwe keletso ya gago ke gore re tswelele re ntse re ntsha wage subsidy, mme kana mo nakong ya gompieno re mo transformational kana Economic Recovery Plan e ka yone re batlang gore a go tsosolosiwe, COVID e le teng kana e seyo gore re tle re kgone go nna le ditiro tsa sennelaruri ka gore wage subsidy ke selo se se felelang fela mo tseleng. O ne o bua ka gore Botswana Game Industries (BGI) e sale e bolailwe ke gore letsomo le ne le emisitswe. Fa letsomo le simolola le boela, go raya gore dikgwebo tsotlhe tse di amanang le letsomo le tsone di a tsoga. Ke dumela gore BGI e a tsoga ka yone tsela e e ntseng jalo. E bile le fa ke bua ka convention e ke reng ke kile ka e ya, ke fitlhetse e le gore … MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Order! Order! Honourable Members, it is now six o’clock, I shall now call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment. MOTION

ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Mr Speaker, ke kopa go kopa gore Ntlo e jaanong e ye go ikhutsa. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Question put and agreed to.

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