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The Limits of Finitism BOOKS upon the integrity of the individual" (p. 25). The possibility that God might be perfectly good and not omnipotent and yet the basis of morality apparently doesn’t occur to him in THE LIMITS OF this discussion. Such a false dichotomy ignores the concept that legitimate authority in Mormonism arises not from omnipotence, but FINITISM from love and what leads to individual growth within a human-divine relationship. The fic- tional .Johnson also hastily concludes that if God is not omnipotent, then any mortal is the THE TRIAL OF FAITH: DISCUSSIONS CON- equal to God or Church leaders in determining CERNING MORMONISM AND NEO-MORMONISM what constitutes "personal morality" (p. 36). Ultimately, what Johnson proposes is by William Call Mormonism stripped ,of the idea of God and Salt Lake City, Utah: Publishers Press, 1986. hierarchy. The discussions of faith, ordinances, the Fall and the atonement, and agency are all contrived to show that since mortals and gods are ontological equals, mortals simply don’t need the gods (p. 1013). Johnson believes that Reviewed b .Blake T. Ostler Mormonism is committed to the view that Z salvation is "earned" and orthodox Christians to the belief that salvation comes by grace alone. This historical limiting of options does SOME OF THE greatest figures in the his- that if God is finite or limited in some respects, justice neither to Mormonism nor to orthodox tory of philosophy such as Plato, Berkeley, and God must be limited in all respects. This sort Christianity. 1 see no reason, however, why Hume have utilized dialogue to present their of rash conclusion is unjustified and as Charles God cannot ~vork with and through free crea- ideas. William Call uses dialogue to present his Hartshorne demonstrated in a rigorously logi- tures to accomplish their joint purposes, i.e., ideas through the fictional John Johnson, a cal discussion of the absolute-finite dichotomy, one another’s happiness. wealthy Mormon who, if one can guess from it fails to hold up. In the end, John Johnson is brought to trial the bolstering of the dialogue :itself, is to be John Johnson believes that the ultimate for excommunication for his "Neo-Mormon" taken seriously because he has thought a lot question about the nature of God is "whether beliefs, which he promoted in a sacrament about Mormonism. Although the book never existence is dependent upon God or whether meeting talk. The fate of John Johnson is not says so, the position presented through John God is dependent upon existence" (p. 13). I disclosed in The Trial o~ Faith. I suggest not Johnson is supposedly a new, improved form of never was sure what this sentence meant, but excommunication, but education is what the Mormonism, called in the title of the book apparently it asserts that if God is finite, God fictional John Johnson needs. Perhaps a closer "Neo-Mormonism." Unlike the classic dialogues does not necessarily exist; that is, he could not study of logic and logical entailments and a of philosophy, however, the dialogue of The exist. The remainder of the dialogue is prem- little more time at the drawing board ~vould T~al o_[ Faith is contrived, constantly employs ised on this error in reasoning. That assertion suffice. I recommend tMs book as an example false dichotomies to force false dilemmas, m~sunderstands Mormonism, for Mormons of what Mormon finitism does not and ought jumps to conclusions without support and believe that God exists of necessity-on "self- not entail. The reduction of Christian theism to makes a mess of Mormon finitism generally. existing principles," if I recall Joseph Smith’s a limited humanism is not necessary to give The purpose of The Trial of Faith is suppos- phraseology. Call apparently wants to establish genuine meaning to human endeavors and edly to rationally explore the implications of that "nature" is necessary, while God is con- experience, and the rejection of religious Joseph Smith’s incipient finitisrn. I was pre- tingent or dependent on what just happens to authority is not necessary to make sense of pared to really like the book because I felt that exist for his existence as God. Mormon finitism. Mormonism’s finitist theology provides the Call also rejects the possibility of panpsy- best foundation for a coherent .and experien- chism (the notion that matter is characteri:_,ed YOUR GIFT HELPS IMPROVE tially adequate theology. Unfortunately, I was by aspects of mind), which perrneated the THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF disappointed. The dialogue sets up the founda- thought of Orson Pratt, by assuming that mat- PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. tional axiom, that Mormonism is pluralistic ter is inanimate. He therefore concludes that PLEASE GIVE THE UNITED while traditional Christianity is monistic. the body is a machine. Johnson runs squarely WAY. Though the fictional Johnson confuses monism into the mind-body problem and a naive with pantheism and pluralism with essen- determinism in making this move, and then tialism, he correctly deduces that if God did tries unsuccessfully to extricate himself from not create the world from nothing, then God is the dilemma by denying that God has con- limited. Unfortunately, Call seems to believe trolling power (pp. 22-23). 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