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Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) Thursday Volume 631 23 November 2017 No. 56 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Thursday 23 November 2017 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2017 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 1155 23 NOVEMBER 2017 1156 Robert Jenrick: Businesses and constituents in Newark House of Commons believe it is essential that the existing EU FTAs are transferred and rolled over as expeditiously as possible, Thursday 23 November 2017 but we should not confuse that with signing new FTAs. Will the Secretary of State therefore confirm that there will be an entirely separate consultation with the public The House met at half-past Nine o’clock and with Parliament on how we handle those separate new FTAs? PRAYERS Dr Fox: Yes, there will be. The trade White Paper, which is of course very separate from the Trade Bill, [MR SPEAKER ] in the Chair asked for views on what a future engagement and scrutiny framework should look like on trade. We are considering the responses and we will engage in the Oral Answers to Questions coming months. Given the changes we see, with Pascal Lamy describing a move away from the protection of producers to consumer precaution, we will have to take INTERNATIONAL TRADE the views of consumers far more into account in future trade agreements than we have in the past. The Secretary of State was asked— Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op): When Leaving the EU: New Trade Agreements I was a little boy, my grandmother used to say, “Shame the devil and tell the truth.” When will this Secretary of 1. Martin Vickers (Cleethorpes) (Con): What assessment State tell the truth? He has been, with his colleagues, he has made of his Department’s capacity to negotiate going around the world begging for a trade deal and new trade agreements after the UK leaves the EU. everyone is telling him, “We want to trade with the [902501] European Union, a much bigger trading group.” 2. Robert Jenrick (Newark) (Con): What assessment Mr Speaker: Order. Just to be absolutely clear, I am he has made of his Department’s capacity to negotiate sure that the hon. Gentleman would not suggest that new trade agreements after the UK leaves the EU. the Secretary of State would ever tell an untruth in this [902502] House. The Secretary of State for International Trade and Mr Sheerman: Absolutely not, and I did not mean to President of the Board of Trade (Dr Liam Fox): Before I imply that he would. I thought the House would like to begin, I would like to offer my sincerest condolences to know what my grandmother used to say to me about the family and friends of Simon Speirs, who tragically the importance of veracity. lost his life while on board the Great Britain yacht during the Clipper round the world race last weekend. Mr Speaker: No further explanation is required. We Our thoughts and prayers are with his family at this are immensely interested in the hon. Gentleman’s very sad time. grandmother, and his ruminations on that matter will The Department for International Trade is building a doubtless be found in his memoirs, which will be deposited world-class trade policy and negotiation capability for in the Library and we can consult in the long winter the long-term future of our country. Since July 2016, evenings that lie ahead. our trade policy group has grown significantly, from 45 to more than 400 today, and it is continuing to grow. Dr Fox: We will want to see what the best deals we We have also established a series of working groups and can get for the UK are, how we can get our trading high-level dialogues with key trade partners to explore volumes and value up, and what opportunities we can the best ways of progressing our trade and investment take as we leave the EU. Of course we are pleased to relationships. Those partners include the United States, continue to go along with the British public’s view on Australia, Mexico and Japan. the referendum, and the hon. Gentleman will no doubt want to do the same, as his constituency voted Martin Vickers: I thank my right hon. Friend for his overwhelmingly to leave—that is no doubt a view he reply. The business community in my constituency is will endorse. eagerly looking forward to the opportunities the new trade agreements will bring. Will he clarify which elements Sir Vince Cable (Twickenham) (LD): Can the Secretary of the Trade Bill refer to the free trade agreements? of State explain the likely impact of a no deal Brexit in respect of the 57 or so countries with which we already Dr Fox: The Trade Bill is about maintaining the have association agreements through the European Union? effects of our current trading arrangements to ensure continuity for businesses, workers and consumers as we Dr Fox: We will want to ensure that those are replicated leave the European Union. That means the powers in in United Kingdom law on the day we leave the EU the Trade Bill will be used only to transition our existing because, whether there is an agreement or not, we will trade agreements that the EU has already signed prior have to have a legal basis for trading with those countries. to exit. Work is ongoing to establish how we will deal with future free trade agreements, but I am afraid that Bob Blackman (Harrow East) (Con): Will my right to claim that the current Bill allows Ministers a free hon. Friend confirm the position on trade agreements hand to write future FTAs is simply untrue. when we leave the EU: after April 2019, we will be 1157 Oral Answers 23 NOVEMBER 2017 Oral Answers 1158 negotiating such trade deals and look forward to actually performance of the UK economy. There is incredible signing them when we break free from the shackles of slack in our ability to export further and we should be the EU? encouraging British exporters to do so. Dr Fox: Again, to make it clear, before we leave the Exports: South-west European Union we have to be able to transition the existing EU free trade agreements to give ourselves the 3. Kevin Foster (Torbay) (Con): What assessment he legal basis to trade. Of course, up to that point and has made of the prospects for increasing exports from beyond, we will want to see what new opportunities are the south-west in the next five years. [902503] available. If, during an implementation period, we decide The Secretary of State for International Trade and that we are not going to introduce and put into effect President of the Board of Trade (Dr Liam Fox): I am new trade agreements, we will still want to negotiate glad my hon. Friend asks about our export promotion and sign them. capability. In 2016, exports of goods from the region, which includes my own constituency, grew by Patrick Grady (Glasgow North) (SNP): The Secretary 10.6% compared with 2015, with double-digit growth of State is repeating what he told Politico recently: that for markets such as Singapore and South Korea. DIT his Department wants to copy and paste the trade deals stands ready to support these businesses, including through because it does not yet have the capacity to negotiate the global growth pilot, which offers deeper export new ones. As there cannot really be a better trading support, or through a targeted export programme alongside relationship with the European Union than membership Torbay Development Agency. of the single market, is that not actually the best idea? If taking back control simply means duplicating what we Kevin Foster: I thank my right hon. Friend for his already have, why not take the easy and obvious path answer, not least because he is a fellow south-west MP. and stay in the single market? Gooch & Housego’sTorquay factory recently won national recognition for how its staff and management have Dr Fox: I shall help the hon. Gentleman out of his worked together to grow their business. What support confusion. As I have said on numerous occasions, it is does my right hon. Friend intend to give to that and not possible simply to copy and paste the existing other companies in Torbay’s vital photonics sector so agreements. For example, we must take into account the that they can grow further by increasing their exports? disaggregation of tariff-rate quotas, so it is not quite that simple. Dr Fox: Photonics is about the science of light generation and manipulation, Mr Speaker—of course, you and all Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con): Do the Secretary other Members already knew that. DIT’slocal international of State’s officials trudge into work, full of doom and trade adviser engages with businesses in the photonics gloom-laden, thinking it is all going to be too difficult, sector and with the Torbay Development Agency, and or do they bounce into his office, full of energy and will soon address the Torbay manufacturing forum. enthusiasm, seeing Brexit as a wonderful opportunity DIT specialists will meet the Torbay Development Agency for Britain to be at the forefront of leading the world in January to review the marketing proposition for the into the bright sunlit uplands of freer trade? sector, and a DIT sector specialist will visit Japan to promote UK photonics capability. Dr Fox: Not all that many people bounce into my office, although they regularly bounce out of it.
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