CANADA House of Commons Debates VOLUME 140 Ï NUMBER 011 Ï 1st SESSION Ï 38th PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Tuesday, October 19, 2004 Speaker: The Honourable Peter Milliken CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) All parliamentary publications are available on the ``Parliamentary Internet Parlementaire´´ at the following address: http://www.parl.gc.ca 521 HOUSE OF COMMONS Tuesday, October 19, 2004 The House met at 10 a.m. second report is on the meeting of the Cooperation and Development Committee, held from May 24 to 27, 2004, in Marrakesh, Morocco. Prayers *** Ï (1005) ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS [English] Ï (1000) [English] PETITIONS COMMISSIONER OF OFFICIAL LANGUAGES CONSTITUTION ACT The Speaker: I have the honour, pursuant to section 66 of the Official Languages Act, to lay upon the table the annual report of the Mrs. Cheryl Gallant (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, CPC): Commissioner of Official Languages covering the period from April Mr. Speaker, today I present a petition in which the petitioners state 1, 2003 to March 31, 2004. that the federal government has abandoned rural communities under the weight of urban socialism and government regulations, and that since the Government of Canada has enforced gun control, animal [Translation] control, unnecessary pollution or waste control for farmland, bush Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f), this report is deemed to and forest control, only by amending the Canadian Constitution to have been permanently referred to the Standing Committee on include property rights will the legal means exist to protect and Official Languages. defend individuals from government interference and injustice and solve the democratic deficit that has been created by the federal *** government. [English] CANADIAN FORCES HOUSING AGENCY TLICHO LAND CLAIMS AND SELF-GOVERNMENT ACT Hon. Andy Scott (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Mr. Jay Hill (Prince George—Peace River, CPC): Mr. Speaker, Development and Federal Interlocutor for Métis and Non-Status I have another petition to present today, this one from citizens of Indians, Lib.) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-14, an act to give Mount Brydges, Delaware, Strathroy and Melbourne, Ontario. Like effect to a land claims and self-government agreement among the others I have presented and will continue to present regularly in the Tlicho, the Government of the Northwest Territories and the House of Commons, in this petition these citizens wish to draw Government of Canada, to make related amendments to the attention to the fact that on-base housing for our military families Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and to make serves a valuable purpose by allowing families to live in a military consequential amendments to other Acts. community. (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) The petitioners note that the housing accommodations provided *** by the Canadian Forces Housing Agency are in many instances [Translation] substandard to acceptable living conditions and that the families of Canadian Forces soldiers living in accommodation provided by the INTERPARLIAMENTARY DELEGATIONS Canadian Forces Housing Agency have seen dramatic increases in Mr. Bernard Patry (Pierrefonds—Dollard, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, their rents. Therefore, they call upon Parliament to immediately pursuant to Standing Order 34, I have the honour to present to the suspend any future rent increases for accommodation provided by House, in both official languages, two reports of the Canadian the Canadian Forces Housing Agency until such time as the Branch of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie. The first Government of Canada makes substantive improvements to the report is on the 30th annual meeting of the APF, held in living conditions of housing provided for our nation's military Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, from July 4 to 7, 2004. The families. 522 COMMONS DEBATES October 19, 2004 The Address QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER We are not so powerful or so strong as to control our world around Hon. Dominic LeBlanc (Parliamentary Secretary to the us or to even pretend to. We need always to adapt and learn, to be Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): humble and respectful, resourceful and alert. Mr. Speaker, I would ask that all questions be allowed to stand. The Speaker: Is that agreed? Ï (1010) Some hon. members: Agreed. [Translation] In our thousands of communities we know that most things cannot GOVERNMENT ORDERS be done alone. [English] [English] INTERNATIONAL INTERESTS IN MOBILE EQUIPMENT (AIRCRAFT EQUIPMENT) ACT We have to work with others together: be flexible, find The House resumed from October 18 consideration of the motion accommodation, discuss, work out and compromise. Rigid ideolo- that Bill C-4, an act to implement the Convention on International gies do not work for us. In many ways, we have had to make it up as Interests in Mobile Equipment and the Protocol to the Convention on we go along. International Interests in Mobile Equipment on Matters Specific to Aircraft Equipment, be read the second time and referred to a In Canada, we live a “find a way” existence. We are a “find a committee. way” people. It is reflected in our habits, attitudes and personality. In Hon. Karen Redman (Kitchener Centre, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the way we look at the world and interact with it. In our culture and discussions have taken place between all parties concerning Bill C-4, sport. In our expressions as a people. an act to implement the convention on the international interests in mobile equipment and the protocol to the convention on interna- In my other life, I played hockey. Hockey is a game beyond tional interests in mobile equipment on matters specific to aircraft control. We practise it, we make our plans, a coach puts those plans equipment. It is listed on today's order paper and I believe you would on a board for all to see, the puck drops, and everything goes find that you have consent for the following motion. I move: haywire. That the motion for second reading of Bill C-4 be deemed carried. The Speaker: The House has heard the terms of the motion. Is it [Translation] the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Some hon. members: Agreed. Those who play hockey best, the teams that win, do not agonize at the loss of perfection when the chaos begins. The Speaker: I declare the motion carried. Accordingly, the bill stands referred to the Standing Committee on Transport. [English] (Motion agreed to, bill read the second time and referred to a committee) They accept what they have, gather up the pieces and put them together as fast and as well as they can. They find a way. Different from football's calculations and baseball's order, hockey is a find a SPEECH FROM THE THRONE way game. [English] RESUMPTION OF DEBATE ON ADDRESS IN REPLY I have the extreme privilege of representing York Centre. In the western part of the riding there are many Italian Canadians. They The House resumed from October 18 consideration of the motion came to Toronto in the early 1950s with little formal education, for an Address to Her Excellency the Governor General in reply to unable to speak English, with no money and no family or friends her speech at the opening of the session, as amended. ahead of them established to ease their way. Hon. Ken Dryden (Minister of Social Development, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I would like to note that I am sharing my time with the The women came to stitch the clothes that Canadians would wear, member for Mississauga—Brampton South. the men to build the thousands of new suburban homes that would I rise today for my maiden speech in this House. I am very make the city. They also built homes for themselves. They put in honoured to be here. front gardens with lots of flowers and green lawns. They put in back gardens lush with vegetables, fruit trees and vines. They raised their What is the Canada that is reflected in this Speech from the families. They did it with hard work and pride and are still there Throne? We are a challenging place. Our northern climate and our today. As new immigrants, as parents of young families, they had to sheer size, east to west and south to north, are difficult for railroad, find a way and they did. Now, as older people, they are doing the for telecommunications and even for government policy to bridge. same. October 19, 2004 COMMONS DEBATES 523 The Address In the eastern part of York Centre is a large Jewish population. and depth that governments, companies and individuals cannot do. Some are older. Many were raised in the riding and have returned to However, as a society, there is still more we want to do. How can we buy their own homes and to raise their own families. Their ancestors help them find a way? came mostly from Poland and from other parts of eastern Europe. Most arrived first in Montreal, some came directly to Toronto. We also are responsible for the government's new child care Again, they spoke no English and had no money. Again, they had to program. Seven out of ten women with children under the age of six find a way and they did. are in the workforce. Child care has become the way we live. It is a national understanding, a national expectation. It is time that we Now in the northeast of the riding is a large and growing Russian understand it that way, think about it that way and approach it that speaking population. They began arriving in Toronto after the way. collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.