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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 08 FEBRUARY 2021 ENGLISH VERSION HANSARD NO: 201 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP. Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 08 FEBRUARY, 2021 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER................................................................................................................1-10 Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, 2021 (No. 2 of 2021) Second Reading (Resumed Debate).................................................................................................................11-35 Monday 8th February, 2021 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Monday 8th February, 2021 teachers to apply. That is the problem at primary schools. Secondary schools are better because people THE ASSEMBLY met at 2.00 p.m. who are competing for these positions are 3 674 and (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) the positions are 116. That is the challenge we have. If the situation does not change, there is no how we can P R A Y E R S promote. Mr Speaker, lack of promotion is the main challenge in * * * * schools as I have already explained through the figures that I presented. For teachers to be promoted, first of all QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER we consider availability of positions. As you can see, SELEBI-PHIKWE PRIMARY SCHOOLS we have many teachers competing for these limited positions and since the positions are limited, it means MR D. L. KEORAPETSE (SELEBI-PHIKWE school leadership positions are advertised regionally, WEST): asked the Minister of Basic Education if he therefore there are teachers who perform better than is aware of the performance of Selebi-Phikwe primary those ones and they get these positions. schools in the last 5-10 years and if so, the Minister to illustrate this performance per schools; and further state: We concur that lack of promotion demoralises teachers. That is the situation I am talking about that if we do not (i) the number of teachers per school promoted (not change our system regarding promotion of teachers, it progression) in the past 5-10 years; will remain our hugest concern. Thank you Honourable Member. (ii) if the promotions policy is linked to results and if promotions of Selibe-Phikwe teachers is MR KEORAPETSE: Supplementary. Let me ask the commensurate with their performance in terms of Minister if the figures she presented are accurate because examination results; I believe they use the Oracle system at primary schools? (iii) if he realises that lack of promotions for teachers She will correct me if I am wrong. It can reflect that a of best performing schools could demoralise teacher has been promoted to Tebogo Primary School teachers with undesirable consequences. while that is not true but is at another school which is not at Selebi Phikwe. Sometimes it shows that one ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION teacher has been promoted and is transferred elsewhere (MS MAKWINJA): Thank you Mr Speaker. Thank you but when you look on the ground, that is not true, it only Honourable Member. Honourable Member, teachers shows on the system. That is why I wanted to know if at Selebi-Phikwe schools are some of the highest those figures are accurate. performing for the past few years until now. I will share the report with you regarding their promotions. Secondly, is promotion linked to performance looking At Boitshoko for the past 5 to 10 years, we had five, at the good performance of schools at Selebi Phikwe? Boitumelo one, Boswelakgomo three, Joseph Anderson In the recent Junior Certificate (JC) results, number three, Lapologang we had six, Phikwe one, Reuben 1, 3, 4 and 5 are Selebi Phikwe schools, so we do not Mpabanga six, Segomotso we had four, Tebogo there think promotion is linked to performance which we was no promotion, Tlhabololo zero and Botshabelo see happening at Selebi Phikwe. Are you sure that three. Those are the teachers who were promoted during promotion is linked to performance? that period. MS MAKWINJA: We are not just dependent on Oracle We admit that in terms of the good performance of as you alluded. We have these figures manually to Selebi Phikwe schools, if there were available positions determine what is happening on the ground, that is why to absorb the large numbers of teachers, it is one of the I guarantee that these figures are accurate. The question areas which could have a larger number of promotions of whether promotion is linked to school performance, I more than the ones we have now. There are only 105 can guarantee that there is a system which looks at that. positions for Headteachers and the teachers competing The schools might be performing but maybe there is one for these positions are over 11 200. When such positions teacher who is performing better than teachers at those become vacant, they are advertised countrywide for schools. That is why I agree and they are attempting Hansard No 201 1 Monday 8th February, 2021 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER to do that. School