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LOK SABHA DEBATES
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h O K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW D ELH I P r ic e : j?s. 2.00 CONTENTS (Fifth Series, Vol. XXII, 6th Session I972) No. 21, Tuesday, December 12, 1972 lAgrahaVana 21, 1894 (Saka) Column Nos. Oral Answers to Questions •Starred Questions Nos. 401, 402, 404,407 to 410 . . . 1—31
Written Answers to Questions # Starred Questions Nos. 4°3> 4°5> 4°6 and 411 to 420 . . . 31—42
Unstarred Questions Nos. 3925 to 3952, 3954 to 40i3> 4015 to 4020 and 4022 to 4112 ...... 42—180
Cilling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance Reported closure of Evening Colleges and three Faculties ot B inaras Hindu U n iv e rsity ...... 180—203
Pipers laid on the T a b i c ...... 203-204
Statement re Dismissal of Shri V.P. Malhotra, former Chief C 1 shier of State Bank of India, New Delhi Shri Yashwantrao Chavan 204—207 St \tement rc Fmalifiation of Line of Control in Jammu & Kashmir Shri Swaran S i n g h ...... 208—210 Re Certain allegations made by Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu on December, 11,1972...... 211—216
Re Sweepers* Strike in D e l h i ...... 216-217
Industrial Development Bank of India (Amendment) Bill Motion to consider •
' Shrimati Sushila R o h a tg i...... 217— 221
Clauses 2 to 8 and 1 Motion to p a s s ...... 222
•The sign 4 marked above the name o f a Member indicates that the questions mas actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. Industrial Finance Corporation (Amendment) Bill Column Motion to consider Nos. Shrimati Sushila Rohntgi . 222—228 Shri Somnath Chat ter jec . 228—232 Discussion re Growing CIA activities in India
Shri Indrajit Gup* a , 232—25° Shri Vayalar Ravi . , 250—254 fehri Samar Guh i . 254—261 Shri C. M. Stephen 261—267 Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu 267—278 Shri M. Rani Gopil Reddv 279-281 Shri G. Viswanath m 281—285 Shri Shashi Bhushan 285—290
Shri Shyainnandan Mtshta 291*—295
Shri Jagannathrao Toshi 295— 302 Shri Piloo Mody ♦ 302—309 Shri K. C. Pant . 309—320 LOK SABHA DEBATES l 2 LOK SABHA the Government of West Bengal giv ing the list of the proposed schemes for tackling sea and river erosion Tuesday, December 12, 19721 problems m the State, which are esti Agrahayana 21, 1894 ( Saka ) mated to cost Rs 68 crores, and seek ing Cantral assistance to the extent The Lok Sabha met a* Eleven of the of Rs 6 to 7 crores a year from 1973- Clock 74
[Mr Spe^kfr m the Cha^r] Majority of the schemes proposed by the State Government are yet to ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS be formulated and a phased pro gramme of implementation of these Sea erosion Schemes of West Bengal schemes is still to be worked out by pending for Central Approval the State Government *401 DR RANEN SEN Will the Minnter ot IRRIGATION AND Schemes for tackling sea and river POWER be pleased to state erosion form part of the flood control sector of the State Plan for which, (a) whether a large number of according to the present procedure, schemes involving about 70 crore of Central assistance is provided in the rupees, proposed by the West Bengal form of block loans and grants with Government for fighting sea or river out tying them to any particular erosion in that State, are pending scheme or head of development As with the Centre for their approval such, the provision for the sea and and assistance, river erosion schemes has to be made by the State Government in their (b) if so, the mam features there Plan of, and DR RANEN SEN In the question, (c) the reasons for delay by the I wanted to know whether the West C nitre in taking decision thereon’ Bengal Government has sent any THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE scheme Now, the statement says MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND* “A letter has been received recent POWER (SHRI B ’N KUREEL) (a) ly from the Government of West to (c) A statement is laid on the Bengal giving the list of the proposed Table of the House schemes *' STATEMENT And then later On, the statement says Sea Erosion Schemes of West Bengal Pending for Central approval “Majority of the schemes propos ed by the Stata Government are yet No scheme proposed by the State to be formulated ” Government of West Bengal for fight ing s-m o* river erosion is pending In view of the fact that there have with the Centre for approval A been various erosions by sea which letter has been received recently from has affected even the Government 2889 LS—1 3 Oral An swers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Oral Answers 4
Guest House at Digha and also in Team who along with the experts of view of the fact that there have been the West Bengal Government could serious erosions in Rupnarayan river sit together and see the area for them near Geonkhali, near Haldia, affecting selves and find out the means to for the Haldia port, and also in Dhulian mulate schemes, and yet the Govern on the banks of the river Bhagirathi ment of India have not responded to near Farakha, which have affected a the request of the state Governments, large number ol villages in both the and if so, the reasons for the reluct districts, may I know— ance of the Central Government to send a team of experts to go into the details of this erosion and find out the (a) whether the Central Govern remedies? ment has token into consideration these factors which have been refer SHRI B. N. KUREEL: As far as we red to by the State Government m are aware, the erosion problem is its letter; very serious down Farakka for a length of 50 k.m. It has been suggest (b) the points raised by the State ed to the State Government that they Government an its letter; and should formulate a comprehensive scheme for tackling these erosion works, keeping in view the recommen (c) what is it that the Central dations of the team of the expert Government is doing in the matter? engineers who visited the spot and the recommendations of the CWPC SHRI B N KUREEL: The letter and the CWP research station, Kha- has been received only at the end of dakvas’a, Poona and the River Re November of this year. In that letter search Institute ot West Bengal, they have made a mention of schemes which are going to be shortly finalised. and they have indicated the serious So, it is not a fact that the Central ness of the sea and river erosion prob Government have not responded to lem. They have given names of cer- their request. In fact, they are just tr'ii v,themes but these schemes have going to finalise the recommendations. yet to be formulated and prepared by DK RANEN SEN: My question wag the State Government. They have whethei the Stat-f Government had intimated that the schemes will re requested the Central Government to quire about Rs 68 cicrt* Thiy sa' c also intimated a phased programme send their team of experts He h?" not leplicd to that of spending about Rs 6 to Rs. 7 cro res yearly. They have aslsfd the Cen SHRI B N. KUREEL: I have just tral Government to keep in view the said that the experts from the CWPC, magnitude of the problem while granting allocations. But 1 may say *the CWP research station etc. have visited the area. Their recommenda that these erosion works are part of tions ar-*? pending and they are going the flood control sector of the State Plans, and the assistance from the to be finalised very shortly. Centre is* given in the form of block SHRI SUBODH HANSDA: As the loans and grant-; for the State Plans, hon. Minister has stated, river ero without tying them to any particu’ar sion may be the responsibility of the scheme or head of development? State Government. But in the case of sea erosion, when the West Bengal DR. RANEN SEN: May I know Government have asked for certain whether it is a fact or not, because help to protect the boundaries from we have got it from newspaper re sea erosion, is it not the responsibility ports, that West Bengal Government of the Central Government to look Kavfr specifically requested the Cen after these things and send expert* tral Government to send an expert to examine these things? 5 Oral An su/ers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Oral Answers 6
SHRI B. N KUREEL; As I have because of erosion and silting and stated already, the Central Govern due to bad planning the lower Damo- ment have responded to their request dar portion, especially two districts and a board which has been consti of Howrah and Hooghly, are devas tuted, is to visit the spot by the end tated every year or every alternate of this month, and they will sit there year and there is havoc of the flood? and formulate the schemes. Flood control ip part of the DVC scheme. Due to bad scheming and SHRI SAMAR GUHA: I have a bad implementation of the scheme similar question, namely Q. 408 every year people have to suffer. which relates to exactly the same Have the Government any concrete subject plan for the development of this area, tor checking of erosion and silting m AN HON. MEMBER: The hon. the lower Damodar river so that Mtmber is too late there will not be flood every year in that area9 SHRI H. N. MUKHERJEE: May I knew whether Government are aware SHRI B N. KUREEL: Some of the that to solve the sea and river eio- schemes had been taken and the Cen sion pioblem in West Bengal and tral Government have allotted Rs 11 contiguous areas, it is essential to crores for these priority works to have senous hydrological investiga minimise floods. That has to be tions in the continental shell of the spent in the remaining years of the Bay oi Bengal? May 1 know whe Fourth Plan ther any steps have been taken by Government in this regard up to date Nation-Wide Drive to Check Theft 4Ji)d if not, why not? and Pilferage SHRI B N. KUREEL: The survey %02 SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will has teen mad* already The hydio- 'ogical engmeenng expeits and the the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas ed to state: 1IT people have surveyed the area. (a) whether with the co-operation SHRI JAGANNATH RAO. Erosion of the State Government and recog as a result of floods and tidal waves nised trad's unions a nation-wide is a recurring phenomenon m our drive was launched m January this country. Hag the Government of year to check thefts and pilferages India constituted any fund to come on Indian Railways, to the rescue of the affected States to take measures tor prevention of (b) if so, the results achieved; and erosion? (c) whether with the introduction SHRI B. N. KUREEL; I have aM cl RPF the thefts and pilferages icady stated that these work 6 are in have increased or decreased? cluded in the flood control sector which are the responsibility of the THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS State Government. The Central Gov (SHRI T. A. PAI) (a) and (b). Yes ernment also consider giving assis Sir. Two types of Joint Committee tance to them when the State Gov viz. State level Committee and Basic ernments submit specific reports and Unit Level Committee were set up say that they are in a tight position during January 72 on each Railway to regarding funds and that they want eliminate the thefts and Pilferages. some assistance from us; that is being As the Committees have been func considered. tioning only for a few months it is too early to assess the results. How SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: ever greater consciousness has been May I know whether it is a fact that created amongst Railwaymen to 7 Oral Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Oral Answers 8 wards reduction of compensation TfT * ? Ufa % ^ T T claims and more co-operation is forth coming from the State Government g fa % snmr vn?§% % Tto Authorities ?r *ftfw w m ?
(c) With the considerable increase SHRI T A PAI The theft is m m traffic, there is an increase m thefts proportion to the value of the goods and pilferages on Railways The transported In 1968-69 the claims Hallway Protection Force has been were Rs 7 56 crores which wat> an trying its best to protect and safe increase of Rs 1 68 crores over the guard the railway pioperty and ful previous years But in 1971-72 it fil the other duties assigned to it The was Rs 9 54 crores which was an in presence of the foice has a gieat pre crease of only Rs 40 lakhs ovei the ventive effect Steps are also afoot previous years, while the prices of to reorganise this force to make it a the commodities have gone up I do better instrument to redace thefts not want to say that thefts are con and pilferages on the Indian Railways fined only to the railways nor do I want to condemn people unneces SHRI RAJDEO SINGH The ans wer to part (c) of the question is not sarily Any crime anywhere, whe very clear The RPF is some yeais ther m railways or outside should be prevented and it is our duty to pro old now and the Government must have made some assessment of its tect the pioperty wc are trying to performance In this context, I want see that these losses are reduced to know clearly whether -with the introduction of the RPF, and its cost SSTtfT* STP- SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL I $rf?nrt 40 srfa*r?r BHATIA Since it is not possible to W *r srr 'rnr n *** close the Nangal factory, may I ^rP»v«rr ^ T§t t eft $ ^ ^ r r know if it is possible to reduce it further so that the 40 per cent cut fa w r ^ r n r r qtT placed on the industry m Punjab *towt wrf«nft shr- ?ft (a) whether the Union lepiesent- fw f* r m * % ing majority of the workers m Chit taranjan Locomotive Workshop has ijwwr «r^w spft eft * m now. been recognised and I, firfaf? »m?r t 1 f^frr^t gft (b) if so what are the sptuhc les f v z t r f *rT$t ·interest should be completely protec- are qualifying for recognition if they 1ie d ·more ·than anything else: are to be given recognition. · 'SHRI RAJA KULKARNI: Is it the SHRI DINEN "BHATTACHARYYA; view of the Railway Ministry that May I draw your att i ~nti cn to the Staff Councils are a substitute for trade reply ot the hon. Min,ster which .is. union and the functions· of trade absolutely not true ... union ·stand transferred to Staff Councils? MR. SPEAKER:. Please ask your question; no argument. SHRI T. A. PAI: I do. not hold any views on this. I only say that the SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA ~ Staff Councils have been doing what He has made a statement. He has the Unions want to do for their given the figure of the membership employees. of the Union; 4.C00 is '.h e membership of this particular Unicn which has. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: been asking the Government for long, Some time back, the hon. Minister fur 14 years, for recognition. They said that they were concerned with have fulfilled all thte, conditions... the production aspect only. I would like to know whether it is the think- MR. SPEAKER: Ask your question. ing of the Government that they are concerned only with the production SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: aspect· and not with the social justice I seek your 'protection, Sir. ' He has aspect. If the social justice aspect is made a statement that this Union to be respected, is it not necessary cloes not hold electicns for office- that a proper trade union, fighting for , bearers which is absolutely not true. sodal justice, should be recognised? The Minister does not know. They have fulfilled all the conditions, but 'SHRI T. A. PAI: Thi.s country is as .they have not been recognised. (Inter- much concerned with production as ruption). I want a categorical answer sociaf justice, and social justice is no to• this, why they an~ not r ec•o gnising substitute for production. I would a particular Union which has y. mem- like to have both. •b€rship of more than ·4,000 and which has fulfilled all the conditions. it'T ~! f~~ <-TTt - f 7“ Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers ]8 MR. SPEAKER: If his statement is PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: not correct, there is a procedure for Actually, it is a wrong statement. tried D - you think that, by shouting, you tan cow down anybody? SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: Please allow mg one supplementary. SHRI T. A. PAI: The hon. Member (Interruptions) seems to knew moi ^ about the Union MR. SPEAKER: Why should we than the Pailway Ministry itself have disorder in the House? There £•.-• = 1 BHATIACHARYYA: is a procedure for it. If the Minister has made a wrong statement, ycu can Yer comt ,1 under Rule 115, but that cannot SHRI T. A. PAI: He should have be substituted like this. . .(Interrup'- gmn me the correct information if tio, &) There is a procedure for it. my information was not correct. What is it that I have said? I have said SHRI S M BANERJEE: We are not that this Union is supposed to repre mi kmg an accusation. sent the largest number of employees. MR SPEAKER: Two or three Whether it represents 4,000 people or Professors on one side and only one 4001 would not make eny difference. Speak sr on this side—it is really I have also said that in spite of the difficult. fact that *his represents the largest unmber of members, we have not SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: I ask recognised it. That is the question through you from the Minister because Mr Banerjee has put to me. I made the first representation regard I could not understand the reason ing Chittaranjan Union to the Minister why the hon. Member should get so when hg took charge. The same much excited aborut . . . ( Interrup question which was raised here to-day tions ) I raised before him on the very first MR SPEAKER: I am not going to day and it is he who asked the Rail way Board Chairman as to why this allow any arguments. Union was not getting recognition and SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: he said that recognition depends not Let it go on record that the Minister upon the authorities but upon the says that the conditions have not been workers. It is not a fact that I asked fulfilled. The statement that one of the Minister whether it is because of the conditions, that they should hold the opposition of the bureaucracy and elections has not been met with—that the Railway Board that this Union is ia a wrong statement. not given recognition and are you prepared to change the old policy SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: It is which you yourself expressed that it very important. Please allow 'me to is not democratic and fair? put one supplementary because made a representation for Chittaran- SHRI T. A. PAI: So many thirfgs jan workers. are being put into my mouth. The hon. Member came to me to represent PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: No that some people working in Chitta* union is affiliated to any political ranjan had been transferred wrongly Party. He is new to politics.. .. and that I must look into their case (Interruptions) and of course, he was urging on their behalf. I said that I would certainly MR. SPFAKER: You wanted the look into it and see what I can do. information and he has given the The question of recognition of a parti information, right or wrong. . ..(In cular unit did not arise because we terruptions) have three industrial units where this *9 Oral A nswers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Oral Answers 20 sys tem of no recognition is continu supplementary question. I have ing. I said I will look into it and if called you for the next question. there is a better alternative, I am prepared to consider it. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE. We have besn championing for various recogni MR. SPEAKER: Can 1 give you one tions, like for example, the admission advice? of China in the United Nations. Here they don’t even recognise this union. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: Can you ask Mr. Baliga why this Union MR. SPEAKER: Next question. was not recognised? I except an answer from him. I asked the sams point which he raised here from the Sea erosion threat to Digha Tourist Chairman of the Railway Board as to Centre, West Bengal why this Union was not getting *408 SHRI SAMAR GUHA- Will the recognition. The Chairman has Minister of IRRIGATION AND PO explained, ‘We do not give recogni WER be pleased to state: tion’. Please be truthful. (a) whether the Health and Tourist MR. SPEAKER; My advice is: the Centre of Digha in West Bengal is shorter and the briefer the question under serious threat of erosion by the and the more precise the reply is, it sea; will be much easier for the Minister. (b) whether the bathing that, a And also try to be tactful sometimes. part of the market and some restau rants have already been washed away SHRI SAMAR GUHA: May I know and whether the Government Tourist from the hon, Minister whether it is Lodge named ‘Saikatabas’ is now only within his knowledge that no trade 10/12 ft. from the sea; union either in the public sector or in the private sector is affiliated in (c) if so> whether Government pro the name of any political party? If pose to send immediately a team of so, I want to know whether any experts to devise ways and means to exception has been made in Chitta save Digha sea resort; and ranjan? Can he tell me whether any trade union had been registered in (d) the other steps taken or propos the name of any political party in ed to be taken to save the place? Chittaranjan? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI A. K. M. ISHAQUE. He is not MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND clear in his mind what his question POWER (SHRI B N. KUREEL): (a) is to (d). A statement is laid on the •Table of the House. SHRI T. A. PAI: It was the CLW Labour Union. Its problems were brought to my notice by the CPI (M) STATEMENT Members. SEA EROSION THREAT TO DIGHA TOURIST CENTRE, WEST BENGAL SHRI SAMAR GUHA: I concede that the hon. Minister is a new person (a) and (b). The West Bengal Gov and be will take time to prepare the ernment have reported that the sea reply. beach at Digha has been subjected to sea erosion during the last few MR. SPEAKER: I had called you years. It has been observed that the for the next question. You have level of Vue beach has been lowering availed of this opportunity to ask a steadily and consequently the sea Is Oral A nswers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Oral Answers 22 gra dually advancing towards the land Digha from erosion of the sea? These and the width of the beach is getting are my questions. reduced. Very little of' the beach is SHRI B. N. KUREEL: The West left near Digha market and the high Bengal Government took up t*he sche tide level touches the market. Tourist me for the development of Digha m resort ‘Saikatabas’ at Dig*na is still at 1961. Since then the problem some distance away from the shore ot Digha has been receiving their and there is no immediate threat to attention. Investigations and tech it. nological surveys have been carried out by the Irrigation Department. (c) and (d). The West Bengal Gov Studies have been conducted by the ernment have stated that they have I.I.T., and the Chief Hydrological En prepared an estimate for checking ero gineer of the Calcutta Port Commis sion over a length of 750 Metres of sion. and protection measures have al the beach and are also preparing a ready been taken up, to check erosion. scieme for the protection of the area T lese include the raising up of the in front of the tourist resort. The slopes of sea beach by sand-trapping Members of the Beach Erosion Board, and salbulla piling but these have been constituted by the Government of In mostly of an experimental nature and dia, have proposed to visit the area to have not proved effective. Casurina examine and suggest suitable measur li-ees were also planted to prevent the es to combat the problem at Dight, sand from the beach from rolling away during the next meeting, of the Beach but due to erosion the trees have been Erosion Board scheduled to be held washed awav. But some measures have in West Bengal in the last week of been suggested by the State Govern December, 1972. ment and one board has been set up and they have their programme to SHRI SAMAR GUHA; Why cannot visit this place towards the end of he read it? December, 1972. They will study and make some schemes for the protec MR. SPEAKER: It is laid on the tion of this area. Table. It is for you to read that. SHRI SAMAR GUHA; There is a Central Beach Erosion Board. At the 1 SHRI SAMAR GUHA; asked for moment, there are tw 0 causes attri the benefit of the House. Sir, Warren buted for the erosion of the Digha Hastings called Digha as the Brighton of Bengal. The Digha sea resort is beach..., always visited by tourists throughout MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Minister the year. There is an article published may get the information from the hon. in Statesman with a heading ‘Can Member. Digha be saved?’ ‘Twin threat of ero sion and indifference*. Now, Sir, there SHRI SAMAR GUHA: The first is is continuous erosion and there is the subsidence of the beach itself. I indifferent attitude on the part of the want to know whether the Central Government. What measures are the Beach Erision Board have visited any Government going to take for the other parts of the country, and if so, investigation of the causes of the sea the outcome of their study which they erosion in regard to Digha? About can apply here? Saikatabas, w*hat steps are the Gov SHRI B. N KUREEL: They visited ernment going to take to save Saika the Kerala State some time back and tabas which is only 10 to 12 feet from they have suggested some programme sea now? What are the immediate for anti-erosion work. steps that they are going to take and what are the permanent measures that SHRI SAMAR GUHA: What is the they are going to take for saving programme suggested? 3 Oral Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Oral Answers 24 SHRI B. N. KUREEL: The aie beis to go ahead? We have been able going to visit Digha beach also. to do more than five questions. Every day, the other Members keep on wait SHRI SAMAR GUHA: It is a pro ing, and they write to me and ask blem fox not only West Bengal but why their questions aie not coming the whole oi eastern India. The low up. I would request the hon. Mem income people rush there So, I bers and also the hon. Ministers to would like 1o know categorically the be bnef in thnr questions and ans measures suggested by them. wers. He did not xeply to any question. I SHRI SAMAR GUHA: The hon. want to know from him... Minister has not replied in regard to the Central Beach Erosion Board.. He MR. SPEAKER: Let the hon Mem wa? only referring to the IIT. What ber first address me. What is his cate does he mean by thif>? Would you gorical question. I have not been not protect my right while the Minis able to follow his question. ters go astray? He has not replied to my question. Is it not my right to SHRI SAMAR GUHA: They have seek your protection? constituted a Central Beach Erosion MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Minis Board. I would like to know whether ter had referred to visits to other they have tackled such problems m parts of the countrv. Let him come other parts of the country, and if so, what their findings are and how they out with a very brief reply. have approached the problem of the SHRI B N. KUREAL: They have Digha beach. simply visited Kerela and they have MR. SPEAKER: That is what he foivnulated some scheme for that has replied to place But that is something else, and this is something else So, they have SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Hi. has not first to go and sec this place and then replied to that. 'He only said that they will suggest the measures to be there were some suggestions taken. MR. SPEAKER: Will the hon. Meeting of Chief Ministers of States Minister please repeat his replies- It in New Delhi to reveiw power and is always a headache for me. Irrigation Crisis SHRI B. N. KUREAL: I have *409. SHRI P GANGADEB: already stated that studies have been made by the IIT and a hydrological SHRI P. M. MEHTA: engineer of the Calcutta Port Com t Will the M'mster of IRRIGATION missioners. But this board is to visit AND POWER be pleased to state: the Digha beach to formulate a scheme for protection work. (a) whether Chief Ministers of States met in New Delhi on the 18th SHRI SAMAR GUHA; But the October, 1972 to review the power Central Beach Erosion Board. and irrigation crisis in the country; MR. SPEAKER; Let him kindly (b) if so, what decisions were sit down now. taken at themeetmg; and May I bring it to the notice of the (c) the broad outlines on the sugges House that the speed is so slow that tions put fodward by different Chief I have just to grapple with the Mem- Ministers? 25 Oral A nswers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Oral Answers 26 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE I, Ramganga, Harduaganj Exten MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND sion, Panki Extension, Giribata, POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) Rajasthan Atomic Power Project to (c). A statement is laid on the and Bira Siul spilling over to Table of the House. Fifth Plan should be expedited so that the benefits may come in STATEMENT the first year of the Fiftta Plan. Meeting of Chief Ministers of States in New Delhi to review power and (iv) Purchase of captive units by irrigation crisis, private industries either from in digenous suppliers or from import (a) Yes, Sir. A meeting of the should be considered. Chief Ministers of Northern Region was held at New Delhi on the 13th (vii) Gas turbine units at Kota October, 1972 to review the power should be repaired urgently. supply in the Northern Region. The Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh, (viii) Important inter-State lines Haryana and Rajasthan were present should be expedited. Punjab, Jammu and Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh were represented (ix) New Thermal and Hydro pro by their Power Ministers jects aggregating to 3810 MW should be commissioned in the (b) and (c) The suggestions made Fifth Plan. and recommendations thereon are summarised below:— SHRI P. GANGADEB: I would (i) Surplus power from Satpura like to know from the hon. Minister and Bassi should go to Punjab whether the States have agreed to and surplus from Delhi should implement the programmes that are go to Haryana. necesary for earlier establishment of the inter-State grid systems, and if (ii) Every assistance should be so, what assistance both financial and given to the early commissioning otherwise, will be given to these States oi thermal stations at Badarpur. to implement the rural electrification Obra and B'natinda. The con programme? struction work on thes*» should be expedited by working three-shifts. SHRI B N. KUREEL; Rural elec trification work is going on very ra (iii) Work on the hydro stations pidly. in addition to the normal under construc^n at Yamuna work, the rural Electrification Corpo Stage II, Rambanga (1st Unit), ration have also sanctioned some Jawaharsagar (2nd and 3rd Unit\ amount to the States. They have so Upper Sindh and Chenani should far sanctioned 329 schemes and ac be expedited to commission an celerated work in therural areas elec aggregarte capacity of 660 MW by trifying villages and giving elecfrtoity June 1974. to pumps for irrigation purposes... (Interruptions). SHRI B N KUREEL: The Central sft WEW ftl^TTt srofcft : f?W R Government is taking action in order fatr tot ? to supply electricity from surplus States to deficit States and lor that we are having programmes to acce »io ntto f^ssifr«n: t lerate transmission works. We have STFT'TT ? (W ^ ^ 220 KV lines; we are thinking of xrfMt % aft fatT * *fj% f^rrr having stronger lines also, 400 KV. This is our programme to connect the ^Tftrn ftrft^ft sftr ftrftr^V States to supply electricity from 1 963-74 % srarc *f ^ **r**qT surplus States to deficit States. % ftsTU, ^TTT ??t TTf I ? ’Tfa sft weh ftj^rtf snsfoft wwm ^ eft ftirr ^ t % qm ^ tt 3ft, TOT | fo TfTT VfcvT aft I ? %, t a H t ¥f*P£ |?TT ^HPT ^TTnr - gft ^5{T^ fsFirsft % fOg?? 3T8 ^ 3F*T ST ^ ftfT? w TT^t % fan I TOT gfeftgfcret sft? snrof «riTcT ?TT5fnT -j^xr qr ^?rtt I ft: f w n qrtft ^ 7% % fapr nq\? ft ?TT »lft ? «TTT?T snar | » «p3 qf% t^i £ •jR-ip far»r «aT«r?«rr % ftrn f u r «ft igsft fsrapft fcT ®pr% % fax* | tTT frgt ? gf ? vpn trg g ftp «wn & srto * fan *nr | fara% fan* garare f<\?i . ?rbzrsff f*r£ arts t ? aft ^frra ^ ftrftr^ % fa^ «r 1 « ?Rr^7 jft ifrf^Tr h wg hw ^ t far?m t o v r a j r t a Ministers of Madhya Pradesh, Maha ject, a charter of demands was pre rashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Mysore and sented to General Manager, Northern Orissa to settle inter-State dispute: Railway recently. The demands re so that the Centra] Water and Power late to payment of wages at higher Commission can give clearance to the rates, absorption against regular posts various projects which are under payment of wages on regular scales study 0 to Store issuers, recovery of rent ot Railway quarters a^ uniform rates as for regular staff and absorption of SHRI B. N. KUREEL: Efforts are one injured casual labourer against a being made already to settle these regular post. int.n State river disputes Some of the disputes have already been settled and some are expected to be settled (c) and (d) The last two demands shortly Some, of course, will take have already been fully met Their time So, we ar H 410 PROF NARAIN CHAND PROF NARAIN CHAND PARA- PAR ASH AR: Wi’I the Minister of SHAR: May I know the rates of wages RAILWAYS be pleased to state- paid at present and the rates demand ed by the workers’ How do they (a) whether five thousand casual compare with the rates paid to local labourers working on the" Kathua labour? Jammu Rail link have presented a charter of demands to the authorities of the Northern Railway; » SHRI T. A. PAI. The casual labo (b) if so, the gist of the demands, urers are normally entitled to the rates of wages fixed for correspond (c) whether they have been accept ing categories of labourers by the ed by the Railway Authorities; and local authorities The Kathua-Jammu link passes through Gurdaspur (d) if not, the date by which a deci Kathua and Jammu civil district. sion would be taken on these de The rates of wages payable to these mands? workers should be on par with what are locally applicable. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) and (b). On PROF. NARAIN CHAND PArfA- behalf of the Casual Labourers work- SHAR: The exact figures have not on Kathua-Jammu Rail Link pro been given by the hon. Minister. N»w. Oral" Answers DEC:l!:MBER . i2, 1972 Oral Answers 32 may . I know whether the local per- tion and are taking necessary . steps sons are employed or people are for improving it. brou~bt from outside? MR. SPEAKER: He is .so n·ear the Minister. He can a3k him, because Reduction iii Freight Rates on HI¢h ·Goods the question hour is over. Graded Cons!imer WRITTEN ANSWERS TO *405. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHA- RAIL- QUESTIONS RIEF: Will the Minister of WAYS be pleased to •state: Disruption of I.0 .C. Installations at \ Budge Budge and Paharpur, West Bengal (a) whether ther·e is any p~0 .,os:i.1 under th.e consideration of Go\.. ... r-e ment to reduce'·the· freight rates cL - •403. SHJ,:U INDRAJIT GUPTA ~ high-·graded consumer goods; a!ld Will the·. Minister of PETROLEUM AND C~EMICALS be·pleased to state· (b) if so, the gis:. thereof? (a) whether h= is aware that work THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS at the I.O.C: installations at B ud~P (SHRI T. A. PAI): i(a) ~ No pro.Joc;al Budge and Paharpur, West Bengal is for a general reduction in the tariff being s·erious~y disrupted dur:ng the rates for high graci.ed consumer goods last two months duP to. rowdy acFvi- is under. consideration. ' tiE:·J o: some ciutS1fters; ,- • t• ... ;t. :;) "' F '~ • (b) Does not ari·se. (b) whether the local LO.. mana- gem·:ntJand employe.es have repeat'.'d- ly sought, but faHed to obtain, neees- sary p :•Jtection rom the '.l uthorities Tax ApPeals in Supreme C1>urt concerned; and (c) Government's reaction to a ..:Jn- *41l6. SHRI G. Y KRISHNAN: \'v"1ll . tii:ming situation· in whiCh vital THE MINISTER OF LAW AND (a) the ·number of Tax App2a:s JUSTICE AND PETROLEUM :\ ~D .filed in the Supreme Court dm:;ing CHEMICALS (SHRI H. R. J,970-71, State-.wise;, and GOKH:ALE): (a) On some days Wl•rl' at the I.O:c. installations at BudgP 'Budge 'arid Paharpur, was ·disrupt?G (b) the number thereof which have (b) whenever necessary the mana- ,gement ' bf the I:O.C. was able b oh- THE MJNISTER OF LAW AND -tain protection from the West Bengal JUSTICE, AND PETROLEUM ..\ND authorities. CHEMICALS (SHiU H. R. . GOKH- ALE): (a) and (b) A statement ~iv-: (CJ· Both the· State and . the· Central in"0 the information High Court-w i:oe Govermiiants are aware of the situa- is 1aid on the Table; of the HousP.. ...-.,._. . . - Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Written Answers 34 Statem ent NUMBER OF TAX APPEALS FILED IN THE SUPREME COURT IN 1970 AND 1971 a n d THE NUMBER THEREOF DISPOSED OF BY THE SUPREME COURT DURING THOSE YEARS, HIGH-COUR I*-WISE 1970 1971 Nam 'tfth' Filed Disposed Filed Disposed H gh C w t of of 1 Allahabad 49 12 28 8 2 Andhra Pradesh 48 10 25 13 1 Assam & Nagaland (Now Gauhati) I 1 3 2 4 Bombay 10 1 5 3 5 Calcutta 66 17 46 18 6 Delhi 13 2 36 2 7 Gujarat 4 1 22 9 8 Himachal Pradesh 9 Jammu & Kashmir 10 Kerala 34 7 16 8 fi Madhya Pradesh 6 28 8 12 Madras 73 5 29 9 13 Mysore 10 X 6 14 Orissa 1 1 7 15 Patna 10 3 XI 6 16 Punjab & Haryana 9 2 13 17 Rajasthan 7 3 2 Slow Progress of Rural Electrification POWER (SHRI B N KUREEL) (a) Schemes in States No Sir *411 SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA (b) Does not arise Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be phased to state «PT faqfor (a) whether the pi ogress of rural * 4 12. sft 5rt electrification programmes m differ ent States has been reported to be at f fa TOTtrc *r?r m ■snail's pace, and fa f b) if so, the reasons therefor 9 (*p ) srt wtot ?nr s’iptt THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE wft ^rr fosrfa ftrarr srr MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND "’Hfr t 2889 LS—2 WHtten c.Atiswers DECEMBER 12; 1972-. Written Answers state-wise or region-wise concepts, ( (c) if so, the broad outlines of the Inclusfon of Waltair and Guntakal schemes? Divisions in . Sou~h Central Railway *415. SHRI K. KODANDA RAM! THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI); (a) to (c). As REDDY: Will the Minister of RAIL- WAYS be pleased -to state: _ again·st the all Indi~ average. of 18.86 Kms. per 1000 Sq. Kms. arefl, Keiala (a) . whether the. Government of has 22.90 Kms. In any case ·Railway -An4hra . Pra'qesh had .-requested the development is not envisaged on any 'centre to fnciUd~ w ·a1t'air . and Gunt:i- - · 37 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 38 kal Divisions in the South Central (b) No, Sir. Kail way, and (c) While two engineers resigned to (b) if so, the reaction of Govern improve their prospects, others did so ment thereto? for reasons of their own. Such resi THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS gnations are a common feature of any large organisation of this type and (SHRI T. A PAI): (a) Yes, Sir do not call for any special action. (I') The proposal was not agreed to on ddrninistrativo and operational Setting up of a High Power Technical pi oimds. Advisory Committee for Ganga Flood Control Commission liesigi.ations of Technical new attach ed to FAC.T. and Chief of F.A.C.T. *417. SHRI D B CHANDRA Engineering Division GOWDA. Will the Minister ol IRRI GATION AND POWER be pleased to *416 SH1II S C BESRA: Will the state: Minister ot PETROLEUM AND CHE MICALS bi> pleat-ed to state: (a) whether a high-poweied techni (a) whether some competent tech cal advisory Committee to advise the nical men attached to FACT including Ganga Flood Commission has been the Chief of FACT, Engineering Divi set up by Government; and sion, have resigned, (b) if so, the constitution and func (b) whether fomgn experts attach tions thereof? ed with it go about without any vvoik, and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) if so, the toasons therefor and MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND the steps proposed to improve the POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): >'a) working of the concern? A Technical Advisory Committee ha been constituted by the Government THE MINISTER OF LAW AND of India tor assisting the Ganga JUSTICE, AND PETROLEUM AND Flood Control Commission in nil CHEMICALS (SHRI H. R. GOKH- technical mattexs. ALE): (a) No chief of any engineer ing division of this undertaking has (b) The Constitution and Functions lesigned, though four engineers have of the Committee are laid on the done so 111 the current calendar year. TabV of the House. Statem ent SETT ING UP OF A HIGH POWER TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR GANGA FLOOD CONTROL COMMISSION CONSTITUTION Shri N. G. K. Muru, Chairman hx-Chairman & Managing Director, water & Power Development Consultancy Services (India) Ltd. Chairman, Member Cianga Flood Control Commission. Member (F. & S. C.), Member c-entral Water and Power Commission OR his representative. Chief Engineers incharge of flood control in the State of Bihar, . Member Haryana, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and West Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 40 Director (Civil Engineering) Member Railway Board or his representative. Director General, Member India Meteorological Department, New Delhi, OR hi 9 representative Director General, Member Geological Survey of India, 'Calcutta or his representative. Additional Director General (Bridges), • Member Ministry of Transport or his nominee Chief Engineer, Inland Water Transport, Member Ministry of Transport, New Delhi or his nominee. Joint Commissioner (S. C.), Member M'niorry of Agriculture, New D?lhi. Mimb:r (Planning & Design), Ganga Flood Control Commission. Mcmber-Secretary FUNCTIONS posed to be put up to the Ganga Flood Control Board for approval; (i> To advise the Ganga Flood and Control Commission in the formula tion of the comprehensive plan and in (iii) To advise the Ganga Flood drawing out the priorities of works; Control Commission on specific tech nical matters referred to the Com (ii) In examine the schemes pro- mittee. 3Sr?f T^* T 1,000 ^ 5,000 *0 (sr) % «PT7^r sift sft? w:t irf 1 1 fa^fr frf?T f t , ^ TnScT 4lf«lfa* JTSffefat jpt SlfsPFTT (* t ) «ptt ? *419 SHRI R R SINGH DEO Will («rt ^to qo *nf) : the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state (3>) 3ft1 fT, srra^F JT5FT (a) whethei Government are plan 20 (^wrarer fasnf«rft) % ning to expand the Trombay Fertilizer W7 fa^TT, Proiect, fan # 1 stt*t ?5nTT sft sftr (b) if so, the main features of the ^wroft 1 ^ > r (c) the extent to which it will meet (®) 5Pt»t*t 1770 w t 1 counti y’s requirements of fertilizer and the foreign exchange that the country ( * r ) cfto s*d^r fTOcTTv fa^ 5TJT is likely to save consequent upon the expansion of the Trombay Plant’ f I (tf) ^rfJTR ?TnjffV % «FT VT *J 8T STR? (w) W f wfrww $*r* % jtc^t M hFT^ Supply of Buie Books to Maintained (b) wtoether the rent of the hostel and Assistant Inspectors accommodation is charged from the trainees at Signal and Telecommuni 3928 SHRI NARENDRA SINGH. cation Zonal Training School, Podanur, Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be Southern Railway and Indian Railway pleased to state: School of Signal Engineering and Tele communication, Secunderabad; and (a) whother the majority of Main tained and Assistant Inspectors of (c) whether there is a proposal to Delhi and Moradabad Divisions (Nor exempt the staff trainees from pay thern Railway) have not been suppli ment of the charges and if so, £ gist ed with the latest Rule Books like thereof? General and Subsidiary Rules, Signal THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Engineering Manual etc.; (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Following expenses are charged-— (b) whether insufficient supply of these books does no 1 effect efficiency 1 Messing charges are recovered and safety of Railways; and from* (c) if so, the reaction of the admi (1) Apprentice Assistant Inspec nistration m this regard’ tors @ Rs. 5.50 per day. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (ii) Engineering Graduate Ap (SHRI T A PAP (a) Latest Rule prentice Inspectors @ Rs 6.50 Books, Manuals etc. other than those per day; and which are not available have been (111) Probationary/Initial Tem supplied practically to all Assistant Inspectors and a number of Maintam- porary Officers <§) Rs. 8 per irs day. (b) Efficiency and safety of Rail As regards other serving Class III ways is not affected as instructions Staff, free messing is provided in lieu iegarding the latest rules and regula of daily allowance. tions contained in Rule Books like 2 Room rent from Probationary/ General and Subsidiary Rules, Signal Initial Temporary Officers only. Engineering Manual etc. are being disseminated among Mamtamers and (b) Yes. so far as Training School Assistant Inspectors m thp training at Podanur Southern Railway, is schools and by issuing circulars on concerned. various important aspects from time Regarding Indian Railways Institute to time. of Signal Engineering and Telecom munications, Secunderabad, informa (c) Question does not arise * tion is given above at Item ( 2) of Expenses charged from staff trainees the reply at part (a) of the Question. at Indian Railway School of Signal (c) The question of laying down a Engineering and Telecommunication, uniform procedure on all Railways is Secunderabad under consideration. 3929. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH: Installed generating capacity of Will the Minister of RAILWAYS Power in Kerala in Fourth Plan be pleased to state: 3930 . SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will (a) what are the various expenses the Minister of IRRIGATION AND charged from the staff Trainees at the POWER be pleased to state; Indian Railway School of Signal Engi neering and Telecommunication, Se (a) the total installed generating cunderabad; capacity of power system in Kerala Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 48 exp ected to be achieved at the end of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Fourth Plan and how it compares MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND with actual demand of that State; POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL)- (a) and (b) Such a proposal has not been (b) whether Government are aware worked out so far. that only half of the potential would be exploited even when all the current hydro-electric schemes are commis Vamanapuraxn Irrigation Project in sioned m that State; and Kerala (c) if so, the steps taken to increase the generating capacity? 3962. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE POWER be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) (a) whether Government have Kerala Power system will have an trken a final decision regarding the installed generating capacity of 622 Vamanapuram Irrigation Project in MW by the end of the Fourth Plan Kerala; against an estimated system peak load of 402 MW only The installed gene rating capacity will be sufficient to (b) if so, the main features thereof; meet this peak load. and (b) Kerala has a hydro potential of (c) whethex Government propose about 1.5 million kw at 60 per cent to take up the pioject for execution in load factor out of which about 0.9 the Fifth Plan? million kw will be exploited on com pletion of the schemes sanctioned so THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE far. MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) (c) The following additional gene The project report and estimates for rating schemes, base on Kerala’s hydro the Scheme have not as yet been potential resources are proposed to be received from the Government of taken ugp for Commissioning during Kerala. Fifth Plan:— (b) and (c) Do not arise. 1. Idikki Extension 3x130 390 MW 2. Silent Valley 2x40 80 MW 3. Lower Periyar 2x70 140 MW. Diesel Engines for Madras-Trivapdrum MailiExpress Trains Financial assistance to Power Generating Schemes in States 3933 SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased 3031. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will to state: the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state: (a) whether there is any proposal to use Diesel Engines in Madras-Tri- (a) whether there is any proposal vandrum Mail and Express Trains; and for the creation of a Special Fund at the Centre to finance Power Genera (b) if so, the gist thereof? tion Schemes in States with good hydro-potential; and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) No. (b) it 00, the main features there of? (b) Does not arise. Written Answers DECEMBER 12. 1972 Written Answers 50 Innovating to Make the Rail Travel THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Faster and Better (SHRI T A PAI) No Extension of 15116 G T Expresses and 85(86 Assam 3934 SHRI K KODANDA RAMI Mails to and from Pathankot is at pre REDDY Will the Minister of RAIL sent operationally not feasible due to WAYS be pleased to state lack of adequate line capacity on the Delhi-Ambala-Rajpura section (a) whether Government are plan as well as on Ghaziabad-Saharanpui - mng to introduce a number of mno vations to make the rail travel faster Ambala-Rajpura sections and better, and Extension of Railway Line from Nan gal Dam to Una (b) if so, the important innovations proposed to foe introduced’ 3936 SHRI MAHADEEPAK SINGH bllAKYA Will the Minister of RAIL THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS WAYS be pleased to state (bHRI T A PAI) (a) Yes (b) The following are some of the (a) whether there is any proposal salient innovations proposed to be in under the consideration of Govern ment to extend Railway lm^ from troduced Nangal Dam to Una, a District Head (I) Introduction of welded rails quarter of the State, in the near future, ai\d improved track structure with and introduction of concrete sleepers and elastic fastenings which contribute to (b) if not the reasons therefor’ comfort and speed in travel THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (II) A high-speed coach has been (S1IRI T A PAI) (a) and (b) Tra designed to ensure greater passenger fhc Survey of construction of a new comfort and reliability m service at railway line from Nangal Dam to Tal- high speed wara via Una is at present in progress (III) 10 Broad Gauge third class A C and is expected to be completed by 2-tier sleeper coaches, with carrying the end of March, 1973 Fuither con capacity of 48 passengers to sit sleep sidcration to this project will be given arc planned to be manufactured for after the results of the survey become use on the AC Express (Deluxe known trains) Canal from Sone River Barrage ( i v ) Extension of improved tech niques of signalling such as multiple 3937 SHRI CHANDRA SEKHAR Aspect Signalling tokenless block SINGH Will the Minister of IRRIGA 1ION AND POWER be pleased to w o t king Automatic Block Signalling Automatic Warning system Route state Relay and Panel Interlooking system* (a) by when the east zone highlevel etc for faster travel canal that is being taken out from the Sone-River Barrage going to irrigate Extension of G T Express and Assam the parched areas of Barun-Auranga- Mail upto Pathankot bad Goh Koonch Tekan Mukdampur Ghosi Phatua in Gaya District and 3935 SHRI NARENDRA SINGH Patna District of Bihar, Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state whether Government (b) what is the present stage of propose to extend G T Express and execution of this canal and whether Assam Mail upto Pathankot to afford it will start functioning by 1973, and facilities for direct journey from South and East to Pathankot and if so, when (c) the total amount spent on this r a»a if not, the reasons therefor? project till date and the outlay there- 51 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE which is under investigation, is sub MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND ject to flooding and that lrngation pro POWER (SHRI B N KUREEL) (?) posals will he taken up after rendering Irrigation from Eastern Sone High- the area flood-free Level Canal has started m Khanf of 1971 The area near Barun-Auran m- firm 5T® W#r bad is being irrigated Areas oi Goh Koonch, Tekari, Mukdampur, Ghosi 3939 . VB|«rW : and Pbatua in Gaya Dislnct and Patna District of Bihar are scheduled to be *rwr JTaft f>qr irrigated in Khanf of June, 1974 and ft? : 1975 (*u) w f s ^ $rz- (b) The Canal is under construction The target for this year is upto RD qr ste 124 The Canal has started function ing upto RD 60 during last Kharif and (v) qrr wst 3TT* Building of irrigation Canal on Poon (q) ’hts qref qr w\ «Ft Poon River in Bihar tr^ w m TFr ?sr Jf fa^V ^ m TT 3TTcT- Change* in the Muslims’ Personal Law f t r ^PTK ? T f f P R S T T F «TT — 3942 SHRI M S SIVASWAMY ( s n r f ‘ 000’ tfteVV sf'ft SHRI B K DASHOW- 1971 2994 5 DHURY 1972 ( W F | * T #■ *P==T ?Rr) 2*39 7 Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state *(? fl-*T*TFT | fT 1 972 € c f ^ R l^T l^TT^T 2 88 fafaiR- iftSTt 2T?T (a) whether in response to the ap peals made by the Prime Minister and f m 1 t o art ir eflTR- fsresft &5T Unun Agricultural Minister as pub ^Rffrer ffrrr smnrcrr sprrcr »n> lished in the ‘Hindustan Times* dated STsftfSTn ^ STTSTFT T2?tf?W> t the 30th October 1972 under the cap tion ‘Muslims asked to make changes :PHT]T 1971 3ft cprfTT *T 197 2 *t T* in Peisonal Law* there have been any 'd'NiQi o5RT % 1 positive results achieved m this re gard, and (’ ) *r qsrsr % srfsPFrFr wt*n- *r sn^-faror ^ srra % • (b) if so, the results achieved’ f«RTT % ^?r ^ srtflR sfptctt ?Fr 3tT- fwra fw «rr f i THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Supply of Coal by Contractors to MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE I>urgapur Electricity Producing (SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAU- Centre, Calcutta DHARY) (a) and (b) It is too 3941 SHRI DASAHATHA DEB early to make any assessment m this Will the Minister of IRRIGATION behalf It is th$ policy of the Govern AND POWER be pleased to *tate ment that the urj^e and the initiative for any reform ii> the personal law (a) whether there has been a low of Muslims should come from the productivity of electricity m Durga- Muslim community itself 55 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 56 Resolutions passed by All-India I & II were taken up to provide anu- Railway Commercial Clerks Asso nual irrigation of 5.66 lakh hectares ciation, South Eastern Zone in Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh. Against this, the utilisation by the end 3943. SHRI CHANDRIKA PRASAD: of March, 1972 was about 2.75 lakh. SHRI PANNA LAL BARU- The State Governments of Rajasthan PAL: and Madhya Pradesh, who are repre sented on the Chambal Control Board, Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be reivew the position from time to time pleased to state: and whenever necessary take appro- priate measures to tackle the diffi- (a) whether All-India Railway culties encountered and accelerate the Commercial Clerks Association, South use of irrigation facilities provided. Eastern Zone held a Meeting on 4th August, 1972 which was presided over Report on National Water Gild by the Minister for Finance, Govern ment of Orissa; 3945 SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND (b) whether 14 Resolutions passed POWER be pleased to state: at the meeting were submitted to his Ministry; and (a) whether he personally flew to (c) if so, the gist of the Resolutions New York m September, 1972 and received and the action taken thereon? finalised National Water Grid Report, if so, whether this Report was earlier THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS placed before the Cabinet and the (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) It is under Parliament and discussed in details if stood that a meeting of the Zonal Exe not, who all were taken into confi cutive Committee of the S. E. Railway dence; Zone of the All India Railway Com mercial Clerks Association was held (b) whether the United Nation’s at Rourkela on 6.8.1972. Expert was an Economist and not an Irrigation Engineer and that no visits (b) No. to arid and drought prone Western (c) Does ont arise. states of Inida were arranged for him; (c) whether nearly Rs. 2000 crores Loss of Revenue to Chambal Control and valuable land lost under Ganga Board [due to Misuse of Water Cauvery link will be needed for a gain of about 20 million acre feet water 3944. SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY: supply to Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Will the Minister of IRRIGATION Nadu; and AND POWER be pleased to state: (d) whether large tracks of North (a) whether Chambal Control Board and Western India are arid, desert is feeling concerned due to misuse, like, drought prone, backward and wastage and obstruction in the free have hardly 15 per cent irrigation as flow of water and consequent loss in related to cultivated area, and 100 revenue; and million acre feet irrigation! projects (b) if so, the main features there colud be completed with far less ex of and the precautions being taken in penditure? this regard? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND (a) The preliminary proposals drawn POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) up by the Central Water and Power and (b): The Chambal project stages Commission for a National Water 5-7 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Written Answers 58 Grid were reviewed by a team of 5. Dr. Rudolf Parti, Hydraulic United Nations experts who visited Engineer, Technical Adviser, the country in December 1971 and Resources and Transport Divi March 1972. The Team had brought sion, Uinted Nations. a first draft report in March 1972 which was discussed with them in 6. Mr. Robin Reynolds, Water Re detail. In May 1972, they had sent a sources Engineer, California were sent to them in June, 1972. The Department of Water Resourc Minister of Irrigation & Power, who es .U.S.A. was on a visit to the United States in August-September 1972 to participate Owing to limitations of time, the} in the Panel meeting on U.N. Con could not visit either all the State ference on Water, also took the opp through which the link passes or & ortunity to discuss the report in the the States which could benefit froir U.S.A. with the Team and he brought the link. Though the request for visit with him copies of their Final Report. to Western India was received, the Team felt that the thorough knowled The U.N. Team had during their ge of two of their Members on the visits to the country met several U.N. Groundwater project in Gujarat ministers and officials both at the and Rajasthan contributed to the centre as well as in the States which Mission’s findings better than a short they visited. The report contains the field trip could have done. views of the Team in the light of their studies, visits and discussions, (c) and (d): The Ganga-Cauvery and the question of such a report Link, one of the components of the being considered by Government or National Water Grid is, on the basis Parliament before the Team them of office studies only, assessed to cost selves finalised it does not arise. about Rs. 2900 crores, of which Rs. 2100 to 2200 crores might be for (b) While the Leader of the Team irrigation and the remaining for navi was an economist, the Team had on gation. The exact costs will be known it as members one Transport Specia only after the scheme is investigated. list, two Hydrogcologists, one Hydrau This preliminary estimate is for a lic Engineer and one Water Resources transfer of 28 m.a.ft. No State-wise Engineer as indiacted below: allocation of water has been consi dered. For purposes of assessing 1. Dr.Joseph Barnea, Economist; costs, it has been assumed that 6 m.a. Director, Resources & Trans ft would be used in South U.P. and port Division, United Nations South Bihar which are within the Team—Leader; Ganga Basin 15 m.a. ft are proposed • for diversion, which supplemented by 2. Mr. Jakov Bradanovic—Trans 7 m.a ft of the waters of central and port Specialist, Resources & peninsular rivers, are proposed to be Transport Division, Transport utilised for irrigation of drought Section, United Nations. affected areas identified by the Irri gation Commission and the Ministry 3. Mr. Salis C. Brown, Hydrogeo of Agriculture in the States of Guja logist—Project Adviser of rat, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, United Nations Project ‘‘Gro Maharashtra. Andhra Pradesh, Mysore und Water Development in and Tamil Nadu. It has been assess Rajasthan and Gujarat (IND- ed by the Irrigation Commission that 114); even on completion of all the projects in hand or potential projects in the 4. Hr. Sanford Strausberg, Hydro drought affected areas, they will geologist of the U.N. Ground hardly have 2$ per cent, of their -and Gujarat; crop area irrigated. 59 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 6o Out of the total length of about *tt srfesr sTTTcfor fa* yrforft 1042 miles of the link, only a length of 677 miles is expected to be a canal, srfafaiR ?rf?ntcr the remaining length being along spff^fTtrt qft a 33 srferfTcT rivers and streams It is not the intention that the National Water Grid should supplant f a («ft S*o fo q tf) projects in Northern, Western or any ^ fT I other part of India, which on the other hand should be earned out Conversion of Private Sector Caustic as quickly as possible all over the feoda Plant m North Kanara, country The link has been pioposed District (Mysore) into Joint only to supplement the country’s Sector Plant water utilisation of large rivers likt the Ganga etc, which may be surplus 3948 SHRI B V N^IK WiJl the to the needs of the nvei basins them Mirmtet of Pfc/IROLIUM AND selves and which would otherwise CHFM1CALS be pleased to state flow waste to the sea It is atses'od that by about the turn of the century (i) Vrhfthff theie is anv proposal there will bo great need for such for the conversion of pn\ate sec toi transfer of waters and steps have to plant foi production of Caustic Soda be taken m time to investigate and in Uniform Civil Code (b) if so the tens taken by Government in this regard 3946 SHRI D B CHANDRA GOW- DAD Will the Minister oi LAW THt DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE AND JUSTICE be pleased to state MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICAIS (SHRI DALBIR (a) whether a Unifoim Civil Code SINGH) (a1* Ihere K no proposal covering all Indian utirens irrespec with the Cent! a I Government foi tive of caste creed or religion has the conversion of private sector plant been suggested by eminent Lawyers fc i production of ( a icti( Soda m the and District of North Kanara 111 Mysore State mto a iomt sector plant (b) if so, the reaction of Govern ment thereto’ (b) Does not arise THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE « Non-implementation of Sharda Act MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE and the Act to prohibit Dowry (SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAUDH- ARY) (a) Yes, Sir 3949 SHRI SOMCHAND SOLANKI Will the Minister of LAW AND JUS (b) The Government do not have TICE be pleased to state any proposal now for enacting a Uni form Civil Code J(a) whether the Sharda Act and the Act to prohibit Dowry which were *rhr passed long ago are not being imple mented properly; and 3947. wtart «rm iw : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Execution of Hemavathy, Upper MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE Krishna and Malaprabha Projects (SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAU- DHARY1 (a) The administration of the Child Marriage Restraint Act, 1929 3951 SHRI K LAKKAPPA Will (popularly known as Sharda Act) the Minister of IRRIGATION AND and of the Dowry Prohibition Act, POWER be pleased to state 1961, is primarily the concern of the Ptato Government*! No complaint (a) whether the Union Govern that the 1wo Acts are not being imple ment are responsible for defecti\e mented properly has been received planning and acceptance of defective (b) Does not arise tendeis for the Hema\athy Upper Krishna and Malaprabha Pioject aft aft •which have caused delay m then execution FJT'HT * f^fTT ^ t*T m o Tnrraare STntft: (b) if not the authorities responsi sft n$ : ble therefor and ’ttt fawrf sfh faigj *rsft m , s t t r (O the step*? bemjc taken by Gov f t TTT fT ernment to help the State Govern mei t in completing the above pio (?) w t m finnR, «rf^nr jeet? «rr»" 5 *fsra> ^ TTT 73T 5TTR"7 f V f aft fsRTT ffsto %(\T U ^ i\ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THF MINISTRY OI IRRIGATION AND ilcft TTf«q«T * POWER (SHRI B N KUREFI ) (a> to (c) Irrigation is a State subject (* ) *rf^ si w and Irrigation proiects are therefore tfST it or?f CTTPTTq faiPTt *qTfoT planned investigated, designed, con ‘trmted operated and maintained by TT^ ^ f^JT TTFT Tt «ft the concerned State Governments No request for any technical assis ( qt q ws iwitf wri«rrft THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ffTTT WnWfjW CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) and (b). Under the cur 3952. «ft ( * r ) t o t ^ r v t 5r«r ^ ^g? vn rviTd ^TT*TC f t r I f^r?T^r fc ra r «TT f% 3 ^ % Setting up of Nylon Tam Manufac turing Project In Haryana & f f 5 H T O I % ^TpTcT fR Q T W rrf ft *PT *TPR STTr^^T t ? 3955 SHRI RAM PRAKASH: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM *?T *T5ft (*sfY ?Vo Crude Oil from .Algeria (a) whether the West Bengal Sup- ply Minister urged upon the Railway 3956. SHRI ARVIND NETAM: Minister to extend Railway services to SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY: Sunderbans; and (b) if so, Government's reaction Will .the Minister of PETROLEUM thereto? AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (a) whether Algeria is likely to (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Yes. supply crude oil to India in the near (b) A p ~e liminary traffic apprecia- future ; tion for the suggested rail links is being one by th~ Eastern R'ailway (b) whether any agreement has Administration. Further c.onsideration recently ·- been signed in this connec- to the suggestions will be given after tion~ · and -~·~i. - ~ ~-"~t-~~ t he report on the appreciation is re- ceived and examined. ( c) if so, the salient feat ures there- of? T1·ea-hnent of Canteen Staff at par, with casual Khalasis is Northern Rail- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN way General St.ore, Shakurbasti THE :MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS ( S~RI DALBIR 3959. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will SINGH): (a) No, Sir. the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased · to state: (b) and ( c) Do not· arise. (a) whether the sta:ff ' e1nployed on · Production capacity of different type regular. ,b;i:sis . in ., the Staff Canteen. ,0%, :: of Chemica1 Fertilizer Factories dur- the _Northern Railwiy General S t9r~_ s, ., ing 1971-72 ~hakurbasti are. getting . full _benel].ts. 'Of Passes . PTO's, Casual leave and regular s~-la ri es , whereas the Casual 3957. SHRI MAHADEEPAK SINGH KhafasiS ill Northern Railway are not SHAKYA: Will the Minister of PET- entitled to these benefits; R:_D~EUM: r ·A.ND CHEMICALS be P.!e,aE>~d .. \o-state the total production (b) whether the Canteen staff are C !J.J!a~ity of ,different .t ypes. of .chemical. not taken at par. w ith Cas·u-al Khalasis f e:r;tilizer factories· in the country. as substitute K halasis whi-Ie their claim during .the year 1971-72? . stands stronger iJhan that of Casual ., Khaiasis; -and THE DEPUTY MINISTER.JN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (c) if so, the reasons for; this. · CHEMICALS .· (SHRI· • · DALBIR anomaly? SINGH): The. total installed capacity • for production of fertilizers . in 1971..:. · THE MINISTER OF RAILWA ys·: 72 was as follows: (SHRi T. A. PAI): (a) . t~ (c). The (lakh tonnes) conditions of service of the Canteen • Stqff and C,asual Khalasis are not com- fertiliz~ :·s Of Nit1;6genous · f4.64 parable . . Whife .t4e forme~ Gre . em-. (ii) Phosphatic fertilizers; . 5.00 ployees of the Managing c,ommi,tee' and get a restricted scale ·of passes Extension of Railway services to · and PTO's and Casual Leave and seal- . Sunderbans . es of pay as fixed by the Managing Committee, the latter, after comple- , 3.958. DR. RAN~N SEN: Will the , tion of six months continuous Railway . Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased toQ , service, are· treated as .regular_Railway .' state: employees for all purposes. 2889 LS-3. 67 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 68 Result of Test for Post of Junior THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Translators in Headquarters, Northern (SHRI T. A. PAI)- (a) 194. Bailway (b) 24. 3960. SlfRf HAJDEO SINGH: Will (c) One post of Leave Reserve tlie Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas each in the category of ESMs'MSMs ed to state: and TCMs Wireless Maintainors is (a) whether tests were held for less. the posts of Junior Translators in Iho grade of Rs. 130-300 (AS) m the (d) Action is being taken by the Northern Railway Headquarters Railway Administration to create ad (Baroda House) a year back; and ditional post of Leave Reserve in each of these categories to make good (b) if so, the reasons for not an the shortfall. nouncing the result of the same even atfer one year? Flyovers from Sealdah Station to Mahatma Gandhi Road and Kasba to THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Ballygunge in Calcutta (SIIRI T. A. PAD: (a) and (b) The tests were conducted on four occa 3962 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: sions from November 1971 to July Will thc Minister of RAILWAYS be 19tf2. The results have since been an pleased to state: nounced1. The-e is some delay in operating on the panel because some (a) whether Government have de posts expected to be sanctioned ear cided to construct one flyover from lier will now be operated only in the Sealdah Station to Mahatma Gandhi next financial year due to paucity of Road and another from Kasba to funds thi6 year. Ballygunge m Calcutta; Leave Reserve Staff for various cate gories in Signal and Telecommunica (b) if so, the outlines of this pro tion Department Vijayawada Division posal; and (Smith Central Ballway) (c) when the construction of the 3961. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will flyovers is likely to begin? the Minister Of RAILWAYS be pleas ed to state: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI1): (a) There is no (a) the total strength of staff in scheme to construct a flyover from the categories of E.S.Ms., M.S.Ms., Sealdah Station to Mahatma Gandhi T.C.Ms.. Signal Inspectors and Tele Road but a scheme for construction communication Inspectors in the Vi of a flyover from Kasba to Bally- jayawada Division of South Central gunge has been sanctioned. Railway; (b) this is in replacement of exist (b) the strehgth of Leave Reserve ing level crossing at Sealdah end of Staff required under the rules for the Ballygunge Station. aforesaid staff of Vijayawada Divi sion; (c) Early 1973. (c) whether the strength of the Export of Indian Locomotives Leave Reserve Staff is less than that required under the rules and the 3963. SHRI S. M BANERJEE: Will other staff are handicapped in getting the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas leave; and ed to state! (d) if so, when the administration (a) whether Locomotives produced proposes to make good the shortage in India have been exported to sdnie t>£ the Leave Reserve Staff? foreign countries; 59 Written, Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers - (b) if «o, the names of those coun Supply of power to Hindustan Alu tries minium Corporation (c) whethei some othei countries 3%5 SHRI S M BANERJEE Will have also expiessed a desire to im- the Mimstei of IRRIGATION AND po t the Locomotives from India, and I OWER be pleased to state (d) it so the ninnes of these coun- (a) whether Uttai Pradesh Govern 1i ies ment have asked the opinion of the Centre on the question of termination THJ MINISTER OF RAILWAYS of the agreement with the Birlas le (SHRI T A PAI) (a) No gal ding the supplv of power to the Hindustan Aluminium Corpoiation (b) Does not arise and (c) «ir ment have reported that compensa Drainage problems in West Bengal tion amounting tio Rs. 32.46 lakhs has 3968. SHRI SAMAR GUHA; Will already been paid to the persons af the Minister of IRRIGATION AND fected by the Kaliaghye scheme Ap POWER be pleased tt> state: proximately, 8495 persons arc yet to rcceive compensation. (a) whether Contai sub-Division of West Bengal is facing many dtain- «ge problems; No representations have been re ceived by the State Government from (b) whether various representa the affected people tions lidve been made to Government for tackling the drainage problems of Compensation paid to families affected the sub-Du ision; and by the implementation of Dubda (c) it so, the nature of the rep re Basin Drainage Scheme futations received and ihe steps taken by Government to solve the drainage 3967 SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will Problems of the sub-DiviMon? the Minister of IRRIGATION AND THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE FOWER be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B N KUREEL) • The (a) whether the people whose Contai sub-Division is affected by houses atid lands have been jequisi- dtr>tnage (ongestion during rainy sea tioned for the excavation of canal m son Ramnagai area of Contai Sub-Division (b) and (b) if so, their reaction? 3C71. SHRI P. M. MEHTA: SHRI P. GANGADEB: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Will the Minister of RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) No. be pleased to state: (b ) Does not arise. (a) whether twenty on£ trains were detained on 12th November 1972 at various places in the Vijayawada Di Factors for Coordination between Rail vision of the South Central Railway; and Road Transport Systems (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 3970 SHRI P M. MEHTA: (c) whether Madras bound Grand SHRI P. GANGADEB: Trunk Express suffered a detention of more than four hours between Will the Minister of RAILWAYS Stuartpuram and Chirala? oe pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (a^ wnether there is great scope (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Yes. for co-oidination between the rail and the ioad transport systems in the (b) Due to agitation in connection ctimt y; and with Mulki Rules. (hj if so, the factors which are (c) Yes. fa^ouraole for such co-ordination? Strike Ballot on Bonus Issue THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 3972. SHRI P. M. MEHTA: tSHRI T. A. PAI)- (a) Yes. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA; (b) There is enough scope and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS rirci for development of all modes of be pleased to state: /ra'^portntion, viz rail, road, sea, in land water transport and pipe-lines, (a) whether the General Council of to meet the gi owing transportation re All India Railwaymen’s Federation quirements of the economy However, has decided to take strike ballot to it will b* necessary to ensure that the press the demand of Minimum bonus transport system is viewed as a whol** of 8.33 per cent; with diflcrent modes being inter-de- pendent and supporting and supple (b) if so, the reaction of Govern menting each other, as far as possible. ment thereto; and Various pro Diems of transport coor dination, particularly road and rail (c) what steps are being taken to 'are engaging the close and continuous persuade the employees not to, go in attention of the Ministries of Rail for such action? ways, Transport and Shipping and Planning Commission. It will be the THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS policy of the Government to develop (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) No such de vanous Modes of transport as com cision has been brought to the notice plementary services in such propor of Government by the AH India tions anj combinations as will meet Railwaymen’s Federation. the total needs of the community at j ««Jnimum cost to the economy. (b) and (c>. ,Do not arise. 75 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 76 Bailway Link between Chandigarh ana in the Central Schools; and Itidhiftna 3973. PROF. NARA1N CHAND (c) the names and number of the x'ARASHA'R: Will the Minister of Schools run by the Fertilizer Corpo RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ration of India? (a) whether it is proposed to con nect Chandigarh with Ludhiana by THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Rail; t MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR (b) if so. whether any survey has SINGH): (a) to (c). The information been conducted for this purpose; and is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. (c) the likely dale by which the construction of the line would be com pleted? Trains cancelled during October. 197a THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS due to various Disturbances (SHRI T. A. PA1): (a) to (c): Pre liminary Engmeering-cum-Finai Lo 3975 PROF NARAIN CHAND cation Suivey foi Jagadhri-Chandi- PARASHAR: Will the Minister of ga h-Ludhiana Rail Lipk, 1 & at pre RAILWAYS be pleased to state sent in progress and is expected to be completed by the end of 1972 These surveys are being curried out ly) the numbei and nam s of the at the cost of the Governments of tiains (anceJ^d in the country due to Punjab, Haryana and Union Terntoiy \anous distuibanccs during the month of Chandigarh. Further consideration of Octobei, 1972, to this pioioct will be given alter the result;; of ihis .suivey become kn'own (b) whethci cUi.v steps aie being and State Government's leaction ob taken to deal with sJih situations so tained. It ist thprqjfoie, to.o early to as to avoid inconvenience to passen- say if and when the construction ot geis caused bv such cancellations; and this rail link or any portion thereol, will ,fce taken up. (c) the estimate of the loss caused Specific qualificatiotos/ICnles for re to the Railway property by these dis- cruitment/promotion to the Teachers tmbances? Headmaster In Schools run by F.C.1. 3974. PROF NARAIN CHAND THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS PARASHAR: Will the Minister ol (SHRI T. A PAI): (a) A statement PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be ic laid on the Table of the House pleased to state: « (Placed in Library. See No. LT-3893/ 72). ‘ (a) whether there are any specific qualifications foi recruitment to the posts of Teacher^ and Headmasters (b) Close liaison is maintained by in the Schools -run by the Fertilizer the concerned Railway Administra Corporation of India and any specific tions with the State Civil and Police rules for the promotion of those serv authorities. Wherever feasible, train ing in these schools to the posts of services are provided toy the alterna Headmasters and Priricipbls; tive routes to maintain the flow of traffic as fer 9s possible. ’ (b) if so, whether these qualifica tions and ruleg art similar to those («) The information Ut bei$g collec obtaining in the States in which ted and- will be placed m tb# Table they are or *to those obtaining of the Sabha. Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Written Answers Off-shore oil exploration in Bay of TOTR % fv^FTifhT ST^TT^t ft *ffei Bengal 3976 SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Tmprfa^ w ft % *mrr AND CHEMICALS be pleased to ( m ) state *r nw cpp ift ? (a) whethei 01 India has a pio- posal to undertake off-shore crude w u m 8f exploiation in the Bay of Bengal and atnfcft («ft ftr^) : (T) (b) it so tne bread outlines thereof 7 ^PPTPT'T ^nrr *prnft THF DEPUTY MINISTER IN THF WH ft Tfrflfh,;TT %■ «TT^ UTift MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND I, jft f*r sr^TT t " CHEMICALS (SHRI DALB1R SINGH) (a) No, Sit ( l ) (*r) : (b) Does not ause Eleftnflcation of Villages m West (ij ^ srft*p*r— 197/-7 8 Bengal and Andhra Pradesh ' *r 4 f^rfsTHpr iftertt t ~*t ^ r dJH SIIRI JAGANNATH MISHRA Will the Mmistei of 1RRIGA1ION r stf^t urirr AND POWER be pleased to state how ?rqT ^in p t 8 farfaiR ifteOr z?m $ manv lu ewtlls have betn cnsigistd f t vn fa w -s w k * c w r r far? f o r m We t Benral and Andhra Piadesh and how many villages cleitufitd m T *# ft^ fr?r fcfor?rar srr^frr i * these States so far’ % T f^ R ^ r ft tpr q-^r ^rfri THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ®ft»STT ( 1973-74 *1 1977-78) MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND SRTf f I POWFR (SHRI B N KUREffU The numbei of \illages electrified and (ii) srtsre ^ tf*m pumpsets/tubewclls energised in West Bengal and Andhra Pradesh as on ft sr?H> j f *rnr vt jrr TTiT ^ fa-r 30-9-1072 are given below — x ttr ^Tcfr *t t *t *r«p T Villages Pumpsets electjified Tubewells afmre % Jft* *ntmproi No energised WTTfa?* w f t ^ * * f t i t rr^r No ftCTtnt fr^rar srtsm rw ft West Bengal 4234 1613 Andhra Pradesh 9421 2,21,308 s m m srerrr syfrsnr^nrcrr n ixrzr- rfTft «TlT5fSTT W ^t *li | I u tmEnhsw s m % ftn? w t* ilk wi?ni fm n l ( 2) mfc* : IHWWI %T 1 4 ^#^3? *TfW>3f- filWC VVIT srm ( f ^ m ssRf*mr cft^r v r f r o r r w e . 1 h m w i i m r * m i |) l»[ w Jwrffrw ft f n TflWW WWT«n|W9Tn In «fT S i ’s t r ift* 7fr*r>3r?mft % MT ^ f a • tftsr ^ wrif^Ntf fvq 3T?# ft <*) ^ S f f i m t f x | if t « r ( M W w «w t t t o *t vrw# snn# f^nnrpr vr ^ ^ wfwgr vf i f v $ m rrw t W’HWWT w TVFmfT V TW* W ity «IT tft ^nrTT f*RT WT I I Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers go ( 3) qw *m (i) ft«rfafa?r w t awnni »pt* «lft»T : % % t it«p ijrtt^resp ( i i i ) ^ r t r % o T^rrfipT qWfararart f«rrr?rr ^ t tretWvFT (srfcr^ 1660 tfteft 3Tf T^t | e^t), *rrarfa*ta (srfcw 600 iftzft 1 »rt%sftqrrff?rJT 2 tr^ rff^ turf z*?) f t rr^r (sr% 3R 3 f«rrf5ft?f *rerr$«pt$r 3 f jt - 6 <>oo»fteft2*r) %fa*rf*r % fa r 5 m ffWft Ttfarr- fsnRTPT 5F*rrfTcT ^ «pr sru^r r$r f a ^ 5 qvnrertfczTRFT 7 fff^r t i feafrfe*; T¥T, 8 (c) the steps Goverament propose There is no centrally sponsored sche to take in the matter? me of irrigation and the irrigation projects are planned, investigated and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS constructed by the State Governments (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) to (c). Rail as a part of their developmental way development is not envisaged on Plans. any state-wise or region-wise con cepts, but on overall development The Government of Kerala have considerations in the national interests seven major irrigation projects under The proposals for new lines suggested construction. These projects have by the State Government have been been lingering on for a number of given due consideration and necessary years, as the State Government have action has been taken wherever justi not been able to provide adequate fied. funds for these projects. The following new lmes/conversions No proposal for any foreign colla falling wholly or partly in the State boration for the construction of these of Kerala have been taken up for projects has -been received from the construction recently and are in pro Government of Kerala. gress:— (i) Tirunelveli-Trivandrum via Irrigation of Cultivable Land in Nagercoil—new rail link with Kerala a branch line to Kanya- Kumari (BG 167 Kms —cost 3981. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI Rs. 14.53 crores). THANKAPPAN: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be (ii) Conversion of Emakulam- pleased to state; Quilon-Tnvandrum MG Sec tion to BG (220 kms.—cost (a) the total extent of cultivable Rs. 13.60 crores). land in Kerala and the percentage of such land brought under irrigation; Irrigation projects under construction in Kerala (b) whether it is proposed to bring the remaining land under irrigation 3980. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI in Fourth Plan; and THANKAPPAN: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be (c) if so, the main features of the pleased to state: proposals? (a) the number of centrally spon THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sored irrigation projects under con MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND struction in Kerala; • POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL); (a) (b) how many ol them are behind to (c). The cropped area in Kerala is schedule; about 2.85 million ha. and according to preliminary assessments, it is ex (c) whether any of these projects pected that about 67 per cent of this are in need of foreign collaboration; area may be ultimately irrigated on atid the completion 0f all possible irriga (d) if so, the names and locations tion works in the next four to five Plan periods. of the projects which need collabo ration? The irrigation potential in 1968-69 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE w$s about 20 per cent of the cropped MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND area, which is expected to rise to POWER (SHRI B. N.KUREEL): (a) about 25 per cent by the end of the to (d). Irrigation is a State subject. Fburth Plan, and to about 31 per cent - -- o_Fl tp~ -·CiJOrnplet-ioB aBd .full develop- l~r~s Staitemeiffby· Teohrucal Adviser· Il'.'~P~ - o.f se~en _·m,aj .Qr :irrigation pro- on water Resourc'es to U:N. Je,ct~ whid1 - J~-r~ !'l-•0\\'-'"IJ·F)_der. constnuc- tion. --- '· ····;_' .. -- - -· 8'o~·( l 8'H·RI ~- ;K;b!i::fANEl'A RAMI · PJEDLYY! Will tlie Minister of IRRI&A- TIO'N ' AND FOWER: :be polease-ct' :fo- Hijacking of Steel Wagons in con- · state: nivance with Railway Staff ·('a}' whether G '-: .; .• ' • " ... f (e) it!1"!:!: :ii'l!'!t-ierv takefi i>y 'dO.v&rii- ·'(b}' Q-t.!ie·stion does riot artse. m,~l'!'t ~h~r~oh? - --- ·; · ...... ' ~ -, - .. ;; \ "/'_ ...... :; ;!, • ., ,.,- - ~ ' ~ ~- Writ-ten :Answers :AGRAEA'fANA 21,--- 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 THE DEP UTY MINI$TER IN THE laid on the Table of the House. ·- ' ' I , ~ · I MINTSTRY OF PETROLEUM AND [Plciced in Library. See No. LT-3994/ CHEMICALS . . . (SHR( . DALBIR .72:] . SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. Withholding of r_~mittan<'.es of F()reign (!~.) . and .. (<;) .. Tt}~ me'11J.O.r.aµdum ' Oil C. (a) the total number of rural elec- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE trjficatio'n :schemes •'!:l'·sa:nctfotied · ' - in MINISTRY . OF PETROLEUM AND Andhra .:Pradesh so far ·by Rural/ -Eilec- (3HEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR trificatfofi '(Corporation; · · · SINGH): (a) and (b). It has b een .. " . \·: -::,, dec:ded that prior · scrutiny of remit- . (b)" their respecfive co_sts and num- tances falling under :-.tlre heads engi- bei· · Of pump· 'sefS'.' 't~ . 'be reri~rgis e d . neering and technical services, royal- thereunder ; and ties, licen.ce' fees a,nd 'home offi.~~· expenses ~ will ·be done to ensure that . (c) _the pr.qgress s~;: iar ..made under services are not obtained· from abroad· sc_Qemes~ each of the. sanctioned in ·cases where indigenous know--ho1w is available. The question of evolving '.CHE DF;FUT.Y MIN1S'fER IN THE a procedure by. whie-h the reasonable- MINISTRY OF IRRIGATIO_N. AND ness Q.r. otherwise of claims fO.r repat- PCYWER . (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (~ ) r iation of funds for individual services to ( c) . .The :Rural "Electrification Cor- etc., under the said heads · i ~ ~nder poration since its inception in July, .discu-ssions with the ojl companies. 196~, . ha ye so far sanctioned 2·2 rural electrification scl;l.errir=s, including. orre for . prlot cooperative projec.t, . fu"'r Maintenance · o1 Shoranur ~Mangafore Andhi;a -Rr.adesh. Broad Gauge Line· · . Details of the cost and the number ~98~. -, · ~\!~fr_ J\•. E-, . .V~:\f{~1?,HN AN: o-f villages/pumpsets covered under Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be e«cl\::sch'eme; ,~n;e · giv~n m '.!_h e '~tate p\lea; ~~~.. to .11.t\!>te :, m~i:it ~\Ii~ o~ . ~he . T~b1~ : of~ -t~~ 'lfous ;e. [Placed in Library. S ee No. LT-39.94/ 'Ca} Wh.ether 'Ufe ·.Rahway ·J\dminls- 72]'...... , . ·.. . ..- ..· .~.,_ tration has received · a .. iiumb~ · "Qf' ' ·• ~ • ,1_~f., .. ; ,._' i . .. ; complaints that the 'Shoranur- Manga- Reports recei:ved in4icate t]:\at .work l0i;e-ilp.road:.gaug'e line -h.aS- 'be·~:ri" n e1g- s and:o1i-e«·s~tf.~me; -i~ on t he 'in pro- lec.t~.. .'Crl; ·and,..,.. . - gress. Details of the progress acl:Jie\red ... in respect -' Of '·schemes ~sahct. i0n,ed in (b) what ar~ 'the steps being taken~ 1970-71 are indicated in the statement to meet this criticism? Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 8 (sr) nfc THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS '(SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) No complaints I m | tf r jr a r ?r*> «*r*r *fr> about the maintenance of Shoranur- Mangalore broad gauge line have been received. Some complaints of general fa«T# ftroww K rm if w h f t nature regarding inadequacy of latrines and waiting halls and for r): (*) tfw to (c). The Government of Kerala had tW w W w f W? Hlfl I\ f» proposed a programme of anti-sea ero |WW-..-«» fTrPPn ■*..--- sion measures with an outlay of Rs. 8 crores during the two years 1972-73 and 3 9 9 2 . « f t t m : 1973-74. Against this, the provision ' «ft «rio fafcfim : availably in the State Plan is Rs. 2.8 crores. Taking into account the need swT^rJT^r ^crf# ^1r w*r for speedy implementation of anti-sea f t : erosion measures in the State, the Government of India have agreed to («p ) w n?«ff it arfe *ffr provide special financial assistance during the last two years of the frT, \ ?T to be provided in the State Plan. w srripft ; sA? Since the expenditure So far during o 1972-73 has not exceeded Rs. 130 (»r) sfc *$?, rft wlf ? lakhs, no amount has yet been releas ed during the current year. («ft#© qo inf) : (*r) Building a scrap yard {or the Rail •jf^fT JTRT tft |T R * ^ r - J r T T - ways at Ranchi by H.E.C. STfacS Tr^ir ?rnprT. ^r | i fax m, 3994. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: *m *r yfft 3oo sr^r^n wfara?' Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be w:4^rft spnr |, *i pleased to state: *fsrern& ?«rm H.E.C. xn meeting their requirements of scrap for their furnaces. » (c) The proposal was not found 3997. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: acceptable because Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state; fi) theie are many priority users of scrap of which H.E.C. is Ca) whether Railways have taken only one some measures to make the advance (u) since sctap is classified only booking and reservation of berths in railway scrap yard, it more easy; would involve double handl ing (b) if so, the gist thereof; and Besides a procedure exists whereby (c) whether the results of these ex Railways meet requirements of scrap perimental measures have been satis -of public sector projects to the extent factory’ available. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Dicaelisation of Olavakot-Mangalore (SHRI T A PAI): (a) and (b) Rail route Measuies are taken from time to time to improve the system of advance 3995. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: booking and reservation of rail accom Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be modation on trains A Committee pleased to state: consisting of Members of Parliament (a) whether there is any proposal has been appointed to recommend -to dieselise the trains running between measures to improve the same. As Olavakot and Mangalore; and suggested by the Committee and as an experimental measure, the time limit (b) if so, the gist thereof? for advance reservation has been uni formly extended to 30 days and un THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS limited waiting list of passengers m (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) and (b): It is A. C. Ill, II and III class introduced proposed to introduce a biweekly for a period of one month with effect Janata Express between New Delhi from 45th November, 1972. The work and Cochin/Mangalore from 28th ing hours of reservation offices at January 1973, which will be hauled by Bombay, Calcutta, Delhi and Madras diesel engines between New Delhi and have also been extended upto 21.00 Mangalore. hours as «>ji experimental measure for dne month Intnrilttettan of Biesei Car* between Shoraaur and Caaaanare •(c) A study will be made after the experiment is over. 3996 SHRI C.'k . CHANDRAPPAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: iiirtfinimifnnt m ta r Financial (a) whether Railways propose to in troduce Diesel Cars between Shoranur 3998. Sltm ARJtTN SJOTfc: Will the and Cannanore; and Minister of RAILWAYS be ptase* to state: (b> if so, the broad outlines of the proposal? (a) Whether in a«xup4»r«5e with the suggestion of P 4 ,C (ftfcfe, R e ifr ty an * THE MINISTER O f RAILWAYS independent unifc ha* fcean 4SHRI T. A, PAI): (a) N&- uijdler the U n c i a l Comritfiuaonftr (b) Does not arise (Railways) with a charwsr of outiw| <93 ^ Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Written Answers 94 similar to that of Staff Inspection Unit border of JMtaharashtra-Madhya Pra of the Ministry of Finance, and desh has proved uneconomical and 99 per cent of the traffic capacity is not (b) if not, the reasons thereof’ used and is lying idle, THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T A PAI), (a) and (a) whether Government propose Merger of Scales of Clerks Class 1 and to set up a Rfc 80 ciore fertilizer unit n in Railways Accounts Offices soon in replacement of the major part oi the Nangal Feitilizer Factory to 4001 SHRI BHOLA MANJHI end the long dispute over power bet SHRI RAMAVATAR ween the Centre and Punjab, and SHASTRI (b) if so tihe broad outlines of the Will the Minister of RAILWAYS pioposal9 be pleased to state THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether Clerks grade II in MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND scale Rs 110—180(AS) after passing CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR Appendix IIA Exammation/Suitabi SINGH) (a) and (b) A programme lity Test perform the same nature of for the expansion of the Nangal plant duties as performed by Class II 'based on fuel oil heavy frac Clerks, and tions in lieu of electricity as the feed stock is under considera (b) if so, whether the scales of pay tion The project when implemented of Class I and II Clerks are proposed will have a capacity to produce 900 to be merged into a single scale, if so, tonnes of ammonia per day, out of from what date and if not, the rea this, 300 tonnes their recommendations have tp be unions....,_ are generally permitted, on awaited. ' , d application, to hold meetjngs in Rail- way premises. GQJWenti~ of Rail>~aymen in R~jlwaY Club premises, Uhanbad · Running of Cinema by bontrac~or in: Railway· Club . and Institute, Dhanbad 4002. 'SHRJ:" BHOLA MANJHI: SHRI ,RAMAVATAR 4003. SHRI BHOLA-MA·NJHI: SHASTRI: SHR1 RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: Will the . Minister of . RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Will the Minister o:f RAILWAYS. be plea_sed to stat~: (a) whe'ther Divisional Ra'ilway Ein- ";·" ' '' .-·. ployees Co-ordination Committee by , a (a) whether' President, · .t;::qal C permission;+ ,,.j~.,.~~~,~~II::;:, ·--fr: , • r what are the Rules and the (c} whether Divisional · 'As'sistant bt2st orders from the Railwary Bofird Electr.j:ca1 Engineers, . Dhanbad even regai;ding the running o_f Cinero.'a · by_. tbpu~~ re.q1_1~Stf.~ /,qy io ?- )e,ttcer by } hE'.: t],} ~\, Gq!1tra ctortJ,., tf\~ ~ail"[~,; S:Jl:\~,,:dN1d sa~c:(. ~F/m,rn1ttr~' J? ·-' ~ov;_d,~ · t.~.,~!lf&.4~~ histittlte' and wfiether these Rl.tles and Elec~n.c , co~Be,c~19n .·for , Jl;u~tF <:;,gf!ve,n ; '. rhe'.: otders· ate . being · observed ., in' tion on: 2ncf 4pril, 1972,qn paym<;vtot . R~f\¥ay~~~I~;,W1ih r;linstitute ·at Dhan-. necessary charges, refused, t_Q, ~:9· 1 ~e; . ar'l d - ~\1~E! ; '<~}l% "'~· .,: ·::., ;(;; " ~~'" ?' ' ~.-.- '" "..;··- ~ .~ .· -·~ ::~! , .i .. ,_,.J ·.• ,' cJ> ·if not, 'tlilf iict1Jn.;Proi;1osl G e n e ra tio n o f Power In States fcrtf % w n finrin % 4008 SHRI D K PANDA Will the t o m * wfc % w w Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state ** If*** fkm m m (a) whether all the States have 4010. «ft gv* : accepted the proposal regarding gene ration of power under Central Sector, wtafureft 29 SW , 197 and (b) if so, the main features there faj srtf % wft *r srcrnTfosr spft of? S o 3941 arcTR THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND f m v W fa POWER (SHRI B N KUREEL) (a) (m) w to % hft («r), (»r) and (b) In the Sixth Conference of State Ministers of Irrigation and Power held at Srmagar in June-July 3fr ^ f , %ftK 1972, there was a consensus that for the Fifth Plan, the power generation (sr) irftr fr, eft s*ra?t t o by Central Government should be w r | ?rgt ? f t ^ r % w r only for large inter-state power pro ject*, or by way of supplementing the I «ftr ^ptt ^sr^tTcfr?r w x ?ft power geneiation by the States tsrnWt ? Power Stations are already under construction by the Centre in the qo inf) : States of Himachal Pradesh, Jammu ( * ) sftr (m) g^nrr ?*j£t and Kashmir and Manipur West tft ^ t *r Bengal Government have agreed for construction of a Power Station m the 17-11-1972 VHf far^TPT Central Sector at Dalkhola Propo v t m | 1 i t * srfcr sals have also recently been received *nrr q ^r ®rT Tsft f $ tfft from some of the States for setting up of large pet-head thermal power n^r («ft tfto r^e q»f) : srfsre? wra ^rnrnrm i>% *ftr srwrf (* ) ? m *Trf«wt ? f w 3R afTT# % fa-nr «rf%r«TT5f, Tfrftft- cT«TT ^F# 3ft¥ ffmtfi, 1972 % spt^t, ?3ff sfirc srrfc *r $ snprftrcr srfcft % vrar ?f**rr ararnrr *‘r t i ?r$t ^ | fa ^ r f snpr tv r % ^rwt % aforvt '“f^ r fw *r »r wf«mfT ^ ?3[?R TTfflT^ fft fr^n v * ST^rr r^V - (**T wr»i ir) 1 969-70 1970 71 1971-72 ajTtfr’T ^ 0 3 0 3 0 .3 0. 3 0 .3 0 .4 qfwr 2nrf 8 5 . 6 78 0 83.0 ^ Issue of Licence for a Soda Ash Plant Railway Lines; between sholapur- at K um ar In M /a. Bailarpur Paper Shahabad and Dhond-wadi and Straw Boards Limited 4017. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL- 4Q15. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the PURKAR: Will the Minister of RAIL Minister of PETROLEUM AND WAYS be pleased to state: CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (a) whether there is any proposal under the consideration of Govern (a) whether M/s. Ballarpur Paper ment to start work on Railway lines and Straw Boards Limited have been between Sholapur-Shahabad and granted a licence for erection of a Dhond-Wadi; and Soda Ash Plant at Karwar; and (b) if so, the gist therefor? (b) whether they are erecting the plant atJBinaga instead of Karwar? THK MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) and (b). There is no such proposal on the Sholapur THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Shahabad section. The following line MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND capacity works are in progress on the CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR Daund-Wadi section: — SINC.II): (a) No, Sir. (i) Crossing stations between: (b) Does not arise. (a) Madha—Angar. (b) Kulali—Gangapur; Decision on Krishna Basin Rivers by Inter-State River water disputes (ii) Additional loop at M artur. Tribunal Damage to Loharu Lift Irrigation 4016. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the system in Haryana Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state; 4018. SHRI M M. JOSEPH: SHRI B. K. DASCHOW- DHURY: (a) whether the dispute of the rivers in the Krishna basin has been Will the Minister of IRRIGATION decided by the Inter-State River AND POWER be pleased to state: Water Disputes Tribunal; and (a) whether a pumping system of (b) if not, the time by which the the multi-million rupee Loharu Lift decision is expected? Irrigation system in Haryana exploded on the 15th November 1972, causing damage; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND (b) if so, the causes of explosion, POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) the extent of damage and the steps and (b). The adjudication proceedings taken by Government in this regard? before the Krishna Water Disputes Tribunal are being conducted like THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Court proceedings; while it is not pos MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND sible to indicate when they are likely POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) to be over, it is hoped that, since the and (b). It has been reported by the proceedings are in an advanced stage, Government of Haryana that there the Tribunal's award may be available was no explosion of the pumping Bys in about a year’s time. tem of Loharu Lift Scheme on 15th 107 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 1 08 Nov ember, 1972, All the 12 Pumping Railway to locate any repair installa Stations on the main carrier and dis tions, depots fete, in Kerala State, then tributaries of this scheme were ope steps will be taken to set up such rated during this rainy season from installations at the most advantageous July to October and worked satisfac location in the State. torily. However, after the closure of the canal, the testing of the Pumping Estimated shortage of Power in Nor Stations was done to see the maxi thern Region In 1973-74 and 1974-75 mum settlement of the cisterns that could take place on the sandy tibba. It was found that one of the walls of 4020. SHRI RANABAHADUR the cistern of Pump House No. 3 had SINGH: Will the Minister of IRRI developed cracks and part of it yield GATION AND POWER be pleased to ed due to the settlement of the cistern. state; The Government of Haryana have further reported that this is being (a) the estimated shortfall m elec replaced. tric power supply in comparison to the projected demand m the Northern Ideation of Factories, workshops, region of the country for the year Stores depots and Scrap Depots in 1973-74 and 1974-75; and Kerala (Southern Railway) (b) the steps contemplated to be 4019. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will taken to remove this shortage? the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas ed to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) Whether Government are aware MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND that none of the existing factories, POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) workshops, stores depots and scrap The shortfall in electric power supply depots in Southern Railway are situat in Northern region compared with ed in Kerala; the projected demand for the years 1973-74 and 1974-75 is estimated at (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 872 MW and 252 MW respectively, (c) whether Government propose to (b) Thv; following steps are being take steps to set up some railway in- taken to reduce the shortage:— nlallations in Kerala to do away the present regional disparities in the (i) Commissioning of Power allocation of such installations and in generating capacity under crease the working efficiency of Rail erection is being expedited. ways in that State? (ii) Small generating sets lying THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS idle with the Boards are being (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Yes. repaired and pressed into service. (b) Railway Workshops, Stores Depots and Scrap Depots are not set (iii) Private industries are being up based on regional considerations permitted to instal captive but these are located at suitable points power generating plants. on the Railway systems which are considered to be most advantageous (iv) Inter-state/Inter-regional tra to meet the needs of the Railways. nsmission links are being strengthened. (c) To meet the needs of increasing traffic, if it is advantageous and in (v) State Electricity Boards are creases the working efficiency of the installing diesel generating seta. 109 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1884 (SAKA) Written Answers n o Setting op of New Fertiliser Units in (b) if so, the gist thereof? Southern States 4022. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of PETROLEUM MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR (a) whether Government have SINGH) : (a) and (b). The following taken any decision to set up new Fer fertilizer projects are in different tilizer Units in Southern States to stages of construction in the four cater to their needs; and Southern States:— Name of the State Name of the Company L o c a t i o n A nnual capacity establishing the proiect(s) (’ooo tonnes) N P 2 0 5 1 . M y s o r e M angalore Chemicals & M a n g a l o r e 1 6 0 Fertilizers L td. 2. Tam ilnadu Southern Petro-chem icals T u t i c o r i n *58 52 Ind. Corp. Ltd. 3 . K e r a l a F.A.C.T. C o c h i n ; P h a s e I tJ2 P h a s e I I 40 114 4. Andhra Pradesh Fertilizer Corporation, R a m a g u n d a m 228 of India Ltd., A number of new projects would (c) the time schedule for the com be required to meet the growing fer pletion of the project; and tilizer demand in the country during the Fifth Plan period; their locations (d) whether full provision for will be determined on techno-econo meeting the entire cost of the projcct is mic considerations and other relevant being made in the Fifth Plan, if not, factors. the reasons therefor? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Progress made on Western Kosi Canal MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND Project) POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) and (b). The Government of Bihar had 4023. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: requested that necessary funds be Will the Minister of IRRIGATION made available for the completion of AND POWER be pleased to refer to the Project on schedule. As according the reply given to the Unstarred to the agreement reached between Question No. 370 on the 14th Novem India and Nepal the portion of the ber, 1972, regarding progress made in main canal lying in Nepal is to be Western Kosi Canal Project and state: built by 1975, the Government of India have agreed to.provide special (a) whether Government of Bihar assistance to Bihar Government to have sought any loan for executing meet its cost of construction outside Indian portion of the Western Kosi the State Plan ceiling during the Canal during the Fourth Plan; Fourth Plan. The Nepalese Benefit portion will be provided as loan to (b) if so, the reaction of Govern the State Government. The State ment thereto; Plan tor 1073-74 includes a provision I l l Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 112 of Rs. 1.65 Crores in addition to the (c) whether apart from overflood special central assistance to undertake ing the Indian territory of 64 Sq. preliminary works in Bihar portion. Miles, large part of the Nepalese ter Tifte Working Group of the Planning ritory is overflooded and the Govern Commission has also recommended ment of Nepal and India had agreed this outlay. upon this scheme; and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Fixation Seniority of Senior Sub (SHRI T. A, PAI): (a) and (c). The ordinates on “All Diviskfi” Basis information is being collected from (Southern Railway) the zonal Railways and will be laid on the Table of the House in due 4028. SHRI THA KIRUTTINAK* course. Will ti»e Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) Efforts are continuously made to deliver coal at each of the nume (a) whether arrangements are pro rous consuming points on the Rail posed to be made to bring the posts ways. Because of operational distur of Senior Subordinates in grade 11s. bances, break-down in collieries, acci 335—425 in the Traffic Department on dents, labour troubles, etc., there may Southern Railway on “All Division” be instances when some delay in re basis with a combined senority list of aching coal to the sheds takes place personnel on scale Rs 250—380 like warranting temporary suspension of other Departments to avoid persons some services. superseding those who have been ap Shortage of Naphtha pointed earlier; and 4027. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD (b) if not, the reasons therefor? VERMA: DR. H. P. SHARMA: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) No. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) The posts of Station Masters t Traffic Inspectors, Secion Controllers (a) whether Naphtha is the mo3t in scales Rs. 335—425 and Rs. 250—SttO preferred feed stock for fertilizer pro were decentralised from 1-1-63 in duction; consultation with organised Labour as (b) whether there is shortage of generally the staff concerned were naphtha to meet the requirement of reluctant to move from one Division fertilizer plants, and to another even on promotion, result ing in delay in manning the posts for (c) if so, the measures Government operation of train services. propose to take to meet the shortage? Grant of H.R.A. and C.C A. to Staff THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of S&T Workshop, P|odanur Areas of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Coimbatore City CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) Next to natural gas, 4029. SHRI THA KIRUTTINAN: naphtha is the most preferred feed Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be stock for fertilizer production. pleased to state: (b) and (c). Requirements of fer (a) whether his Ministry is aware tilizer plants to which naphtha is com of the struggle carried on by the staff mitted are being met in full. To the of the Signal & Telecommunication extent necessary, indigenous produc Workshop, Podanur for the grant of tion is being supplemented by im HRA and CCA as the area is conti ports, In view, however, of the over guous to Coimbatore City; all shortage of naphtha, all new fer tilizer plants will, as far as possible (b) whether their demand is pro be based on either fuel oil or other posed to be met; and heavy petroleum fractions as their feedstock. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers i l 6 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (b) if so, what steps are being (SHRI T. A- PAI): (a) to (c). The taken to prevent the closure of the demand of Railway Staff at Pondanur said line? for grant of H.R.A. and C.C.A. at the rates admissible for Coimbatore City THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS is under consideration of the Ministry (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) and (b). As of Railways. The certificate of depen per the present indications given by dency of Pondanur on Coimbatore tlie Ministry of Irrigation and Power, City, received with Southern Railway’s the Pong Dam is expected to be comp* proposal in this regard, as granted by leted by June ’73 and it will start the office of the Collector concerned, impounding water in the reservoir was defective. The same has beer, thereafter. The Railway track bet returned for rectification. On receipt ween Jawanwala Shahr and Guler of a valid dependency certificate, near Gaj bridge will thus be sub question of grant of House Rent and merged under water in the rainy Compensatory (City) Allowance to season of 1973 on account of which Railway staff will be examined in con rail communication Ibeyond Jawan sultation with the Ministry of Fin wala Shahr will Inave to be suspend ance. ed with effect from 1-4-73 so that railway track materials and girders Drinking Water for Rjailway Staff are dismantled and removed to at Salem Market Area safety before the monsoon. The 4030. SHRI THA KIRUTTTNAN: construction of an alternative rail Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be alignment 'higher level between Jawanwala Shahr and Guler (29.8 pleased to state; Kms.) was planned and sanctioned (a) whether his Ministry is aware m April, 1969. The work, however, of the difficulties of Railway staff re could not be taken up till recently siding at Salem Market Station area as the land required for this* re in getting adequate drinking water; alignment could not be placed at the disposal of the Railways (by the (b) whether steps are proposed to Beas Dam Project authorities. Since be taken to ensure adequate and pro the re-alignment will not be ready per supply of drinking water; and before 31-12-1974, the suspension of (c) if not, the reasons therefor? rail communication will have to extend till the end of December 1974. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS This suspension of traffic can be (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Yes. avoided only if the Beas Dam Pro ject authorities, would agree to (b) Yes. Proposal is under exa defer impounding of water in the mination for taking water from the reservoir till the monsoon of 1975. Municipality as a permanent measure to meet the requirements of tthe sta Report of Railway Labour Tribunal tion and the colony. 4032. SHRI R. P. YADAV: Will the (c) Does not arise. Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Closure of Pathankot-Joginder Nagar to state: Railway THE MINISTER O f RAILWAYS (4) All inter-divisional and long (SHRI T. A- PAI): (a) Yes. distance passenger trains should be upgraded to Grade (b) The main recommendations ‘A’ m respect of scales of pay made in the Report of the Railway provided the total run is not Labour Tribunal, 1969 with regard to less than 250 k.ms. the facilities to be given to the Run ning staff relating to their hours of (c) The various recommendations employment, pay scales etc. are as are under active consideration and follows: Government’s decisions thereon will be taken as early as possible. It is (1) Running duty at a stretch of difficult, at this stage, to specify the running staff should not ordi preci&o date of implementation. narily exceed 10 hours, but such duty may extend to a Late Running of Trains in the maximum of 12 hours provid North-East Region ed the concerned authority gives at least 2 hours’ notice 4033. SHRI R. P. YADAV; Will before the expiration of 10 the Minister of RAILWAYS be hours to the concerned staff pleased to state: that it will be required to perform running duty for 2 (a) whether the trains are running hours more; provided further late for hours together in the North- that the total maximum hours East region regularly; of duty from sigmng-on to signing-off does not exceed 14 (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and hours; provided further that the total maximum hours (c) the steps being taken to run the should progressively be re trains on time in the said region? duced by half an hour every 2 years from the date of this THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Report till the period of 12 (SHRI T. A. PAI); (a) No. hours is reached i.e., at the (b) Does not arise. end of 8 years from the date of this Report, total maximum (c) Punctuality performance of hours of duty at a stretch trains is closely watched at all levels from signing-on to signing-off by the Zonal Railways and for im shall not exceed 12 hours. portant trains, at Railway Board’s level. Avoidable detentions are (2) All time spent for travelling promptly investigated and suitable spare on duty should be con remedial or punitive action is taken sidered as period of duty ex to improve punctuality. In some cept— trains even alarm chain apparatus (i) when an employee is pro has been blanked off to effect an vided with the facility of a improvement in punctuality. crew rest van, and Mahi Sagar Project in Rajasthan (ii) when an employee does not travel on any day beyond a radius of 8kms from his 4034. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE place of duty. SHARMA: Will the Minister of IRRI GATION AND POWER be pleased to (8) The rate of overtime to be state: paid beyond the statutory weekly hours averaged over (a) whether Mahi Sagar Project in two weeks shall be twice the Rajasthan has been sanctioned! by ordinary rate of pay. Government; 119 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 120 (b) if so, the expenditure to be (c) whether Rajasthan is in a posi incurred on the project and how tion to meet the domestic need of much assistance will be rendered by power after supply of substantial Itae Central Government; and power to Punjab and if not, the reac tion of Government in this regard? (c) the area to be brought under irrigation and the power to be gene THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE rated a$ a result of the project; the MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND extent to which this project will be POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL); (a). helpful to Rajasthan in meeting the Yes, Sir. power demand? (b) No, Sir. Delhi will not be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE effected. MINISTRY OP IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a). (c) Supply of relief power to Pun The Mahi Bajajsagar project has jab is being arranged from Madhya been accepted tor inclusion in tho Pradesh through Rajasthan transmis developmental plans of Rajasthan sion net-work. Rajasthan has been and Gujarat trying to wheel this energy through their system after meeting their own (b) and (c). The estimated cost of domestic needs. They have indicat the project is Rs. 31.36 crores. The ed that owing to repaid increase in project is expected to irrigate 46558 the power requirements of Rajasthan, ha. in Rajasthan and provide addi they are not in a position to pass on tional supplies to the Mahi areas in any substantial energy relief from G ujarat Power Generation is not Madhya Pradesh to Punjab. There envisaged at present from the pro are transmission line limitations also. ject, Provision is however being The position is expected to improve made in the works to enable power after the energisation of 220kV Jaipur- generation at a future date. Kota transmission line by end of December 1972. Central assistance to State Plans is in the form of block loans and grants for the Plans as a whole, and not related to any individual sector or head of development, or specific pro- jects. star if s*mi fanfa Supply of Power to Punjab by 4036. ifm *** fftfww : Rajasthan «tot ftw f fflr m ar?n% ^ 4935. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE fm uror f% * SHARMA: Will the Minister of IRRI GATION AND POWER be pleased (*>) qSr amr to state: frrm srfsj sretf % i f fkvrw (a)’ whether the attention of Gov ernment has been drawn to a news ijftr cm far?r% m z v z I ; tfVc item published in the 'Hindustan Times* dated the 13th November, 1972 under the caption “Punjab Power ( w ) W t a t o t r s m *rter crifes may worsen by mid December’*: vt 3pt& 3r tfpp aiRfta ^ 3fr ijfa (b) the extent to which such a ▼fr I nfcr tsts | shortage of power will effect Delhi f%tr HTWTF W which is already facing a serious power crisis; and ~ ~l2tll.h!l - ~- 123 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers ffwpsr % ?r#T?r*r farfa *m % (b) The Shahdara Drainage scheme is for providing storm drainage ar- ftr fft- *r f%er?fVgr ?m w r t, i angements for benefiting the entire area m the Union Territory of Delhi (sr) w r g* 4030. SHiRl MADHUKAR: Will the 4040 SHRI RAMAVATAR SHAS- Minister of IRRIGATION AND TRI: Will the Minister of RAIL POWER be pleased to state: WAYS be pleased to state- (a) whether Delhi Administration’s (a) whether a decision was taken two flood control projects have to introduce a direct train from Patna received clearance from Planning to Dhanbad via Gaya; Commission and Central Water and Powei Commission, and (b) whether the distance between (b) if so, the main features of the Patna and Dhanbad via Gaya is re projects’ latively less than the distance bet ween Patna and Dhanbad via Kiul; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (c) if so, the reasons for introduction (a) The Hon’ble Member is presum of the train via Kiul instead of via ably referring to the Shahdara Drain Gaya as decided in the first instance? age scheme and the scheme for le- modelling and lining of Najafgarh THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS drain and providing a Cunnettee in (SHRI T A PAI): (a) and Strength of Class m and IV Staff and provide staff according to the yard Clerical Staff in Personnel Branch, stick; and Danapur Divisional Office (Eastern Ballway) (b) if so, when the proposal is ex pected to be implemented? 4041. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHAS THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS TRI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A PAI): (a) No. be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 1880 on the (b) Does not arise. 4th April, 1972 regarding fixation of yardstick of work for Clerks of Per sonnel Branch, Divisional Office, E Implementation of latest Duty List Rly., Danapur and state: of Head Typists in Kota Division (Western Railway) (a) whether reply to Unstarred 4043. SHRI PRAVINSINH SO- Question No. 1880 on the 4thi April, LANKI: Will the Minister of RAIL 1972 hag been fully implemented; WAYS be pleased to state: (b) whethei a reference dated 10th (a) whether the latest duty list of May, 1972 was made by a Member of Head Typists as advised by the Office Parliament to the Railway Minister of the General Manager, Western and acknowledged by him under his Railway, Bombay is not being imple D.O letter No. MR/1740-A/72, dated mented on the Kota Division of Wes 12th May, 1972; and tern Railway, if so, the reasons there for; and (c) if so, the action taken in the (b) the action Government propose matter? to take m the matter? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) The Eastern (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) The duty list Railway are undertaking a fresh job of the. Head Typists has been imple analysis m the Personnel Branch, mented on the Kota Division. Danapur Divisional Office. (b) Does not arise (b) Yes Implementation of Shanker Saran Award on Western Railway (c) A reply was sent to the Hon’ble Member of Parliament by the Deputy 4044 SHRI PRAVINSINH SO- Minister for Railways. LANKI: Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to state- Uniform Yardstick for Accounts (a) whether Shankar Saian Award Clerks in P. F. Section is equally applicable to the Electric Staff on Indian Railways; and 4042. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHAS TRI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS (b) if so, the number of posts creat be pleased to refer to the reply given ed in pursuance of the Award over to Unstarred Question No. 5357 on the Western Railway on each Division 20th July, 1972 regarding workload with reasons for delay, if any, in im for Accounts Clerks in P.F. Sections plementing the Award? of Headquarters and Divisional Offices and state: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) No. The (a) whether Government propose Shankar Saran Award was meant only to fix uniform yardstick of workload for >the Mechanical Workshops. Sub for Accounts Clerks in P.F. Section sequently, as a result of discussions and prescribe specific duty list and with Organised Labour on the Rail 127 Written Answers DECEMBER 12* 1072 Written Answers J2& ways, the Award was extended in ed. The posts are being filled up by I960, under special orders of the conducting trade tests. Ministry of Railways, to the non- Offer from Iraq for Oil SL Name of the party No. & date of Indus Item of manufac Amount of No. trial Licence. ture & annual Capa Invest city in tonnes ment (on Land Building & Machi nery) — (Estimated by applicant) (Rs. m crores) 1969 Nil 1970 1 M /s Modipon Ltd , L ^ 's/n ^o -C h . I Nylon filament yam - 2 2 2 M o d m a g a r dated 28-3-70 4 0 0 . 2 M /s Indian Organic L/23/5 12/70-Ch. I. Polyester staple fibre 7 76 Chemicals L td , Bombay. dated 22-4-70 6 1 0 0 3 M /s Oarware Nylons Ltd L /23/5/14 70-Ch I Nylon Filam ent Yarn 5 54 B o m b a y dated 24-10-70 1 2 4 4 4 M /s Swadeshi PolytexLtd , L 23,5/T5'',o-Ch I Pohc'ter fjbit fioo 7 15 K a n p u r . dated 7-10-70 5 * M s The Ahmedabad L/23/5 '16/70-Ch J Poh ester Staple 7 48 M anufacturing & Calico d a t e d 2\ 1 0 - 7 0 1] -- ()TJO Printing Co L td, A h m e d a b a d x y i 6 M /s Guptalon Ltd., L 23/5/17/71-Ch I. Nylon yarn-—1000 . 4 0 9 L u d h i a n a . dated 15-3-71. 7 M /s Chemicals & Fibres of L/23/5/18/71-Ch. I Polyester Stap le 1*73 India L td , Bombay. dated 3-2-71 f i b r e — 1 6 0 0 Funds for irrigation Schemes at THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Sambalpur MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B N KUREEL) (a) 4047 SHRI P GANGADEB WiM and (b) The information is being col the Minister of IRRIGATION AND lected from the Government of Orissa POWER be pleased to state. and will be laid on the Table of the House (a) whether irrigation schemes for Changes In Indian Electricity Act wluch special studies were conducted at the District level of Sambalpur 4048. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI after visit of the Central Team hava Will the Minister of IRRIGATION been approved for execution; and A1\D POWER be pleased to state (a) whether Government propose ta (b) whether adequate funds will be make certain changes in the Indian provided by the Centre for execution* Electricity Act; and of the said schemes? (b) if so, the main features thereof? 2889 ) Aii) LS. Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1072 Written Answers 13ft THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (s r ) v f e ?rt z m vzm % erwr MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B N. KUREEL): (a) wr f *r> «rf^r wztmft ft and (b). The Indian Electricity Act, % fat* ^HS»TT «PT WT 1910 lays down the law relating to f w * | ? supply and use of electrical energy On the experience gained in imple menting the provisions of the Act, Weft («ft qo qrf) (*>) amendments are periodically carried 3ft I out to suit the needs, the last such amendment carried out was m 1959 Some proposals for amendment are (*?) 3RHTT ?Wf 5R under examination in consultation 5FWHT *T ftnrt arpft *TT#t *0 4 with the States The intended amend i t TTfr ( i i M i f r i - f e f t - w f t » n f t ) ments could be known only after finalisation of the proposals 1 1 -1 1 -7 2 ^rT T O T F P - q |p ft fft Theft ^ Hatia Station in Bihar * t Tf& n fyw T vn sfr ’TTf^nTT^K STT «ft cft?T^ 4049 KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI % TT^ if I ipT^FTT If Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state tft fe# *r ^ ^ frWrR- (a) whether the attention of Gov w itR : ? r f w : ^rsgft t t snrt^ ernment has been drawn to a news w 1 4 t *t»it aft w*rr ft sr*r item which appeared in ‘Hazaribagh ®fT5TT -3T «r -ci^5T§^tTttT%?rcrp5jftzr Samachar’ dated the 13th November, 1972 published from Ramgarh Cantt TR T'TI'T TTT% TT fT^fT I Hazaribagh (Biljjr) regarding theft z r qr3iftT,qt?riT?r^Tt % sfirsr at Hatia Station m Ranchi, and 5 t \ U (? m *ft w grtft *rfr ®fa'*ft (b) if so, the person > irrosted m I W fnfl m Slftfrap #?-f5T¥ that connection and action taken against them’ * cfl n £ r 1 sr^r ftM tt m . srrfe THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS nft fir £ ?r w w r r fim (SHRI T A PAI)* (a) and (b) The «Pt«TO? *nrr (t ?nrraT m t information is being collected and £ 1 v f i m % 'T j f F t % n ^ r J5r^% frsF?* will be placed on the table of the Sabha *nr ^ ^=rr ft fWt i $ r ? . apt ? n ^ r C t v ?k v fim ^ n*ft «ft «rtr rtm w V mwt it *?■¥> stttt *nfar*t 3f?w % MTTTcfw srar ^f^di ft snrr J92^fk ter f t «mcr 108 % *RT»Tcf im m fapBTT | | 4 050 *FTT T* ?rsr a r % fTR^rn: f%ir ^rr ifc ft f t w n ^ t • (^ ) *P7T flTqfTF" TX S?TR f^TT^T —s ..*— *w —- r> ._ \ v .Aft, 18 TO^arr, 1972 % ™ q | 5TfT T5T ^TiT^nCT h W m, sranf*Rr w i m m f t th r fk m m ? frr « r t ^ r t i m n r t f t m r | fa f 5 cicft % iftfr w t T tr«n T T % W Iffa 'PIT sSwft % yrarrPfT - wwfr vrit % *%nr mfazft % *mr (t) ^sr»rrf^r #^rt % ^rrfswt f t ?rwn Twprspn! fosrr «rr,«flr ^ r f r ^ r ^ ^ f^rxr TT?r % 133 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1804 (Sajca) Written Answers 134 wxft Mr*) (c) whether Government proposes to institute an enquiry in the matter tt *wr *fa*r *t» t Q tsr# and if not, the reasons therefor? % ^rntrarvf ^ *Ft“ arr^tt; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ( 9r) <$w t v t MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND fjf^r fem w | % ^ rf «tt CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) to (c). The information WOTBff % f^n^TT STTTTfW 3PT is being collected and will be laid on (c) and 1969-70 1970-71 1971-72 N o. of accidents 16 2 0 17 Cost of damage to railway propeity . Rs 40.61,542 Rs- 30,81,576 Rs. 18,51,331 N o. of persons killed 1 0 2 3 4 62 N o. of persons injured 45i 339 196 Causes: (0 Failure of railway staft 1 0 8 7 («) Failure of engines or rolling stock 1 1 I (m) Failure of permanent way 2 (iv) Failure of electrical equipment 2 X («) Tram wrecking 3 2 1 (©0 Failure of other than railway staff I 3 (vii) O ther miscellaneous causes Charges of malpractices in the import toring to malpractices in the import of of bulk drugs against the drug manu bulk drugs and other raw material a; facturing firms with foreign equity (b) if so, the nature of charges against each firm, and 4054. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Will the Minister of FEROLEUM AND - (c) the action, if any, being taken CHEMICALS be pleased to state: in this regard? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether the drug manufacturing MINISTRY OP PETROLEUM AND firms, particularly those with foreign CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR equity, have been charged with res- SINGH: (a) to (c). A tew cases of 137 Krteten Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (Saha) Written Answers 138 drug manufacturing firms with foreign Trading Corporation, their import had equity importing bulk drugs|raw to be arranged urgently to meet the materials at higher prices than those specific requirements of the cotton available from other sources at com crash programme of the last Khar iff petitive prices have been brought to season. the notice of Government. In all such cases, suitable action is taken to bring down the prices to competitive Letter of Intent to Manufacture pesti levels. The ceiling prices at which cides granted to Foreign Finns and some of the drugs can be imported proposals to set up such plant in Pub have already been specified in the Im lic Sector port Trade Control Policy Book. Import of several drugs has been cana 4056. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: lised through the State Trading Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Corporation and the coverage of the AND CHEMICALS be Pleased to items under the canalisation echeme is state: reviewed to see whether any additions are nccessary. (a) whether the two foreign firms— Union Carbide India Limited, New Licences to Import pesticides to two Delhi and MJs. Hoechst Pharmaceuti foreign-con trolled firms cals Limited, Bombay, have been granted letters of intent to manufac 4055. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: ture pesticides and if so, the broad Will the Minister of PETROLEUM features thereof; and AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) whether Government propose to sot up plants in the public sector to (a) whether two jorei£n-controlled manufacture pesticides and if so, the firms, viz. Union Caibido Indian mam features thereof? Limited, New DvV'hi and M a. Iloechst Pharmaceuticals Limited, Bombay, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE were recently granted import licences MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND to import G14 ton’ioi, and 180 tonnes CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR of pesticides respectively. SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. A statement giving the required information is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in (b) whether Government explored Library. See No. LT-3997|72] the possibility of importing this parti cular item through S.T.C or any other (b) Two pesticides namely DDT and Public Sector Undertaking; and BHC are presently being produced at H.I.L., a public sector undertaking (c) if not, the reasons therefor? under this Ministry. In addition, this undertaking has plans to diversify the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE product-mix so as to include other MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND pesticides like^: CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. Messrs Union 1. Endesulfan Carbide India Ltd. and Messrs Hoechst 2. Malathien Pharmaceuticals Ltd. were allowed to 3. BHC Granulation import 614 tonnes of Carbaryl and 280 4. Malathien, Fenitrothien etc. tonnes of Endoaulphan (Technical) 5. Fortified BHC. respectively. 6. Relthane 7. Methoxychlor. (b) No, Sir. 8. Carbofuran. (c) Apart from the fact that the ixn- According to present indications port of these two pesticides is not programme is expected to costTRs. presently canalised through the State 2760 lakhs. Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 140 i f a wfliT % [taw w rit m (w) *fc %?, fft * v?HP$t farer | ?wr ** fTRsrnrt % ^ttsft *1 ir 4057. IT® WMVWTJW : wttwt ^nShrr ? «*TT »raft ^ WcTT^ F ^ T ^ f a frftfamr T w w *r*rrwr If («?) w r 5F^f «fk srsfcr % wW t («ft ?rwrtr ftr|) : (v) ?m[*t % far^cfN^TTr ^ t (^■), 5RW ST^r, TRTPTH 5f*TT ^ r t^ t | , t ^ft¥r q«r % faq ftrer- ^ tnp^t % faRnr % W t o (*ar) firr ?TTfT % % ^ iTsp^ft ^t«rrq?rr f?r«rfafa5r aft v r * fa*n tot t ^r 5=t ^ r r Trfefr srrsnm far% ^rr | — «ri*n *Ttfa % *cr? as^r fa*rr »nrr $ , srk ( l) 2T2T %fro^ —ftF 5TTT— Wt$T^T (^T^RTcT) (sr) *rfa $r, eft foc»% fa % 1 ffraraw % ?5?Tftr?r wrf 3>rof- srffqre w t T t d tit v&m rin%nfbv w r tit snrf?r 3F fa *n 3rr f f I , t 1 (*) *rf? ff, ?ft wr t o if « $ftaref | fi’tr T^>«rnr % fa < w r wtt fawnc fcl «Nt («ft «fto (TO «TTf) : (* ) 4061. #RT SHW : iftT (&) S53RPFTT *r^5T (*T f* WtT *fltft *ng ?RTT^ *tft FTT sfttft JTT^r) % ?ft# fW ?t*Fft 'TT, f a t immmr | st^ w t tft ^t *^t t - (*) *RT 'FR°FTT £u^ l—l(dl m m % f ^ r R % faq; ^ ^TT^r M t *TCT f*RT f , TRT * ^ 9^RX (^r) fr, ?ft wt qfwnr U nft | ? TR ^/RR T i.'^TT »T3r fcr tfsft («ft srto t?o qrrf) • (??>) (sr) 1969 *Ft sftptsr to t ■3>STT*ft *rfafa ?f t €r *rt fimfrsrt % WHK TT, ^ (b> if ao, the time by which this (c) if not, the reasons therefor? demand is likely to be met? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF LAW AND MINISTRY O f PETROLEUM AND JUSTICE AND PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS (SHlCl DALBIR CHEMICALS (SHRI H. R. SINGH); (a) to (c). Keeping in view GOKHALE): (a) Yes, Sir. the availability of gas from establish ed fields like Ankleswar, Kalol, Nava- (b) The matter is under considera gam and Cambay in Gujarat, gas sup tion, and a decision will be taken as ply commitments to various industries[ early as possible. consumers have been made and sup plies are being made for the past seve ral years However, for the fields Showing o! Profit in balance sheet of which are presently m an initial pro PCI by deferring expenses duction stage, n° commitments for the supply of gas have been made due to 4072. SHRI JAGDISH NARAIN lack of data on the gas potentialities MANDAL: Will the Minister of of these fields. Gas produced from PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be such structures will have to be flared pleased to state: till such time as the required data become available and arrangements (a) whether current marketing ex for supply are made. Presently, a penses worth crores of rupe ©3 have number of such structures are under been deferred for adjustment in initial production stage in Gujarat. coming five years to show profit in balance sheet of Fertilizer Corporation -of India this year. The associated gas produced along with crude oil is separated from oil at (b) whether Government agree different pressures at the group with this practice; and gathering stations. Presently, the high pressure gas from the establish (c) if so, the reasons therefor? ed oil-fields at Ankleswar and Nawa- gam is transported through pipelines THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE for supply to the consumers and the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND low pressure gas is flared. CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR ■SINGH): (a) to (c). The annual Re port and the accounts of the Fertilizer In fields like Ankleswar and Nawa- Corporation of India for the year gam arrangements are being made to ending 31st March, 1972 have not yet install compressors for compressing been placed before the shareholders at the low pressure gas for supply to in the Annual* General Body Meeting of dustries. the undertaking for consideration and approval. * Fertilizer projects in public sector with Japanese collaboration Proper utilisation of Gas in Gujarat 4073. SHRI SOMCHAND SOLANKI: 4074. SHRI M. SUDARSANAM: Will Will the Minister of PETROLEUM the Minister of PETROLEUM AND AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: CHEMICALS be pleased to state. (a) whether Government are aware (a) whether there is any proposal that the gas in Gujarat is being burnt to start new fertilizer projects in the uselessly; public sector with Japanese collabo ration; and (b) if so, whether Government con template to utilise it for consumption; (b) if so, the places where these and projects are likely to he located? Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 19'72 Written Answers 152 . F THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE . The inability of the roe to . take back MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND full guantities of motor spirit has CHEMICALS ' (SHRI DALBIR arisen principally due to: (i) IOC's SINGH): (a) and (b). Sorrie propo- , late entry into the market and its . sa · ave ·b een received in this regard consequent inability to put up a large . and these ar e under consideration. network of retail outlets (pumps ) ,' particularly in , the · cities where most of the good sites h ad already been . Quantity of motor spirit supplied, by -ta:ken up by the earlier entrants' and , IOC to foreign Oil Companies on where the demand for motor spirit is direct sale largely concentrated. Taking note of - this situation the Government appoint- 1975. SHRI RAJA KULKARNI: Will ed the Retail Outlets Committee in th.e Minister of P.ETROLEUM AND 1966. On the basis of its recommenda- CHEMICALS be pleased to state: tions, 95 per cent of all new retail outlets are now put up by the IOe (a) whether the Indian Oil Corpo- only.- This· is .resulting in a progr.es- ration has been supplying motor spirit ~ve increase in the market participa- on 'direct sales' basis since 1966 to the tion of the IOC. (ii) Until :recently, foreign ·on · (Marketing) Companies owing to non-materialisation of suffi- which earn.ed enormous profits by sell- cient indigenous demand for naphtha, ing the same to the consumers; production of motor spirit from · 'the inland r d'.r:e,.'.es, which are ' in the . (b) if so, the quantity thereof sup- public s •-.ct0~. except for the smallest plied by the Indian Oil Corporation refinery a~ Digboi in Assam, was being and the profit earned! by each of the moved right into ·Calcutta 3r~d · Bom- three For.eign Oil Companies during bay. This did n ot leave any scope the last three ~ years sm this account; with the refineries. of the foreign oil and c~mpanies to produce motor spirit to meet their own requirements. The·,3e (c) what steps Gov.ernment have ·oil companies, therefore, mostly pro- taken to prevent repatriation of such duced naphtha, whose ex-refinery profit to the parent c_ountries of these price is lower than that of motor spirit Companies? _by about Rs. 50 per KL and to export it and/or to supply the same to pub- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE lic and private sector fertiliser and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND petrochemical plants. With the i:ricrease CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR in the consumption of. naphtha, this SINGH) : (a) to (c). roe has been position is progressively changing and .supplying all the products including roe is therefore able to take back in- motor spirit to the foreign oil market- creasing quantities of motor spirit ing companies under an exchange and the refineries of foreign oil· s:Qm:.. arrangement even prior to 1966. This panies ari .being allowed to -p roduce ens-qres order ly movement and elimi- increiasing quantiUes of motor spirit. nates stresses and strains on trans- roe hopes to achieve a substantial port. While the roe has been able to ·improvement in this r egard in the take back other products, it has not been able to takE! back motor spkit ;future by virtue of its putting up most to the folfowing extent: of the new r etail outlets in the coun- (Figs in KL at 15·°C) try.- 1969-70 1970-71 1'971-72 It is not possible t o give any pre- Burmah 516,747 483,045 477,1'53 Shell cise estimate ot' the profit' earned by Esso 381,459 . 334,128 312,144 - the thr ee foreign oil companies on this Caltex , 189,670 '1'99•,792 191,36·5 account. 15* Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1804 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 Foreign companies engaged in the* (b) the reasons for their not being ‘ production of fertilizer and ehemioals confirmed and the time by which they will be confirmed? 4076. SHRI VARKEY GEORGE: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a )and (b). The the names of foreign Companies en information is being collected and will gaged in the production of fertilizers and chemicals a n d the installed and be laid on the Table of the Sabha. utilized capacity of the plants set up by these Companies? Filling up of Leave Reserve posts of Running Staff of Mechanical Depart THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ment, Samastipur Division (N. E. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Railway) CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR SINGH)- Information is being collect ed and will be laid on the Table of 4079 SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: the House. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Balconies on first floor of quarters at Railway Colony, Motia Bagh, Delhi (a) whether about twenty per cent of Leave Reserve posts of Running 4077 SHRI AMAR NATH CHAW- staff of Mechanical Department of LA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS Samastipur Division (North Eastern be pleased to state: Railway,,) have not been filled up and the 30b is performed through wrong (a) whether the work regarding officiating arrangements hindering the provision of balconies at the first promotion of Carnage-electric-Khala- floor of the three-storeyed quarters at sis with long years of service; and Railway Colony, Motia Bagh, Delhi would be completed before the start (b) if so, the remedial measures of next summer; and proposed t 0 be undertaken’ (b) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T A PAI). (a) No THE MINISTER FOR RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A PAI): (a) No. (b) Does not arise. Maintenance of volumes of India Code (b) This work has been kept pend upto date. ing for the present in view of Gov ernment's decision that, as a measure 4080. SHRI R. P. ULAGANAMBI: of economy, no expenditure should be Will the Minister of LAW AND JUS incurred for the time being on works regarding additions and alterations to TICE be pleased to state: buildings. (a) whether the text of enactments contained m the volumes of India Confirmation of employees on North Code brought out by the Ministry of Eastern Railways Law are being kept up-to-date by issu 4078. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: ing replacement series periodically; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (b) if so, t h e dates on w h i c h the pleased to state: last two replacement series of each (a) the total number of Railway volume of India Code were issued and employees on the Nprth Eastern Rail the period which such replacement way with service of more than five series covered; and years who have not yet been confirm (p) whether the Ministry intends ed; and to devise some method through whifih Written Answers DECEMBER 12. 1972 Written Answers 156 India Code 1s brought uptodate in BababiftKatSoci af people affected by shorter penod than at present? fialand! Dam Project in Keonjhar Orissa THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI ARJUN SETHI: Will MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE the Mmister of IRRIGATION AND (SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAUDHA- POWER be pleased to state; RY) (a) Yes, Sir, (a) whether no rehabilitation work (b) A statement showing the re has been done for (the people wh» quired information is laid on the have been affected by the Salandi Table of the House [Placed tn Lib Dam Project in Keonjhar District ot rary See No LT—3998]72]. Orissa, and (b) if so, the reaction of Govern (c) Delays in issue of replacement ment thereto7 series mainly occur due to the heavy rush of printing which the Govern THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ment Presses have to cope with Steps MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND are being, taken continuously to ob POWER (SHRI B N KUREEL): (a) tain priority for the work of printing and (b) The information is being replacement series to the India Code collected fiom the Government of and bring them out at> expeditiously Orissa and will be laid on the Table of the House as possible f a r o f wretercr I? in » r w f i5 r Supply of power to farmers 4081 SHRI MUHAMMED SHERIEF Will the Mimstei ot IRRIGATION 408 1 fwrc srtaft : tot AND POWER be pleased to state ir?? sprpr 3ft f»TT ftp (a) whether the Centre has asked (sp) TOT «=F3TR % ftr TO STRTtSR the Stalte Governments recently to ^ sfKjfr fag- ^ ^ take appiopriate steps to supply power to farmers, so vital for the success sfrit 5 r t m trN t of the emergency food production pro sft P t gramme, on a priority basis, -and (*a) srfa fr, ?ft tot ^ ^fmt w?r (b) if so, the gist of the instructions totststt ^t fkwjx $ fanm issued in this regard and the progress achieved in the matter’ 35? fr 3jr% % T5T g*rr «rr srk fisn-r^ THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF IR RIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B 5*TT snr-jfV % 5TPT 5PTT f t N KUREEL). (a) and (b) Yes, Sir, sfk Due to drought conditions prevailing in the country this year, State Gov (’t) it, eft Trftr ernments and State Electricity Boards tot sfa: eft tot have been advised to give highest WTTTOT | ? priority to energisation of pump sets] tubewells They have also been ad ^51 («fo tit© ijo qfff) : vised that electricity feupply for agri (* ) fTl cultural purposes should not be res tricted and if there is any shortage (sr) * ri of power, the supply of electricity to (’T) Cinema houses, commercial advertise ments and decorative usages may be cvfrtailed f*PTT 3Tf | I ' 157 Wntten Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Wntter* Answers 158 M m M inister's award In Narmada THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Water dispute (SHRI T A PAI): (a) Yes (b) Some shortage of wagons, com 4084 SHRI BANMAU PATNAIK* bined with less productivity of (b) if so, the salient features theieof if not, the time by which the award is expected to be given 7 Trsrfsrrc wrwrn 4086. y w ra OTTT Survey for broad gauge line M m Maldah to Balnrgbat via Gajal 408 7 FFRFV ITHT : W 4088 SHRI R N BARMAN. Will ^ TRF^ft- *r$ sr?n% f t f.«rT f f the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased (*) WT ^ Jfti W fW^TR, to state S*r % ^ fort *r tft *ih i»ph % anrit (a) whether his Ministry has taken a decision to conduct Traffic Survey % w tr t % *rrf*Pfi, *rnF#fa*F rPTT fawrsr for a new broad gauge line from ^ f w t gt* Tnferr Maldah to Balurghat via Gajal, «TFn% *>r 1 1 (b) if so, how much of the survey work has been completed so far, end (® ) w r «nnft q’^ejftffii ifhsRT Sr W ?n^sr *r ftf qfaFrr ^nf | (c) how much time is likely to be taken to complete the survey’ i m r srt% hpt s iw r | , srk THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (*r) *ife $r, ?ft ?hf’ (SHRI T A PAI)' (a) Yes (b) and (c) Preliminary arrange V tft («ft q[o *n f) (sp) ments have been made and the sur If (*r) fftft Tr^r art ^ sttettc qr vey is being, taken up The survey T T ^ T ?TTf«nP fNWT will be completed before the onset oi the next monsoon % irrarn: qr^rt % f^ r ft srcnft 1 1 w tym x fa rfo r T A and Officiating Allowance to Re srto: fro i |q fort Jr Tfrer^ ft 'nrfrr lieving Assistant StatioA Masters, Delhi Division (Northern Railway). « r*w r f t srre w ? n ^ srfa ?rsnr f wr sht^r % fan ?rrto 4089 SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHALI SrrfW 5TT*T?T f t 6*TR it T® n §17 Will the Ministei of RAILWAYS be pleased to btatc f5rf*T«T t 5ff?cR:r ^TTSFft qTf^r^TT (a) whether the Railway Board v z m f \ * i 5TT^rt q r m w w issued orders in April, 1969 that both Tnr^r *r ^ "^T'^ft srm^fr sfcft t Tiavelhng Allowance and Officiating 5f\T WK W TS f «FT V[WFT TTnT Allowance are admissible to Reliev ing As istant Station Masters, ?faT ^ fTfprpT T3H % fa*rW their headquarters to relieve staff in Confirmation el Station Masters/Aaste- higher grades, should be allowed daily taut Station Masters, Delhi Division allowance during their stay at the (Northtm Railway) outstation, in addition to officiating pay | allowance provided the other 4091. SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHAU: terms and conditions lor Duty Roster «rf Asstt. Station Masters, (b) whether the Station Mastersf Delhi Divitfon (Northern Railway) Assistant Station Masters having 25- years service or more have not been 4090. SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHAU: confirmed in Delhi Division so far; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be and pleased to state: (a) whether Railway Board issued (c) if so, the reasons therefor? •orders to the General Manager, Nor thern Railway for implementing the straight Duty Roster tjf Assistant Sta THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS tion Masters on the Northern Railway; (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Yes. (b) whether the straight Duty Ros ter has been implemented in six Di (b) and (c). Confirmation of those visions of the Northern Railway ex Assistant Station Masters [Station cept in Delhi Division; and Masters who have not deposited the security money and who are under (c) the reasons for not implement going punishments or against whom ing the straight Duty Roster in Delhi D.A.R. (Vigilance cases are pending, Division? not been ordered. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Strength of Assistant Station Masters (SHRI T. A PAI): (a) Yes, but a and Station Masters, Delhi Division period of two years fiom November, (Northern Railway) 1971 was laid down for complete im plementation because a large number of Assistant Station Masters had to 4092. SHRI ISHAIQUE SAMBHALI: be trained in goods duty before Will the Minister of RAILWAYS straight duty rosters could be pres be pleased to state: cribed. (a) the actual strength and sanc (b) No* the position is: that in some tioned gtrenght of Assistant Station stations it has been possible to intro- Masters in grade 130-240 and Station due straight rosters, but not in all. Masters | Assistant Station Masters (c) Straight Duty Rosters for the in grade Rs. 205-280 in Delhi Divi Assistant Station Masters have not sion; and been introduced throughout all the Divisions of the N-orthern Railway be (b) the number of vacancies re cause the requisite number of such quired to be filled in, grade-wise and staff trained in goods working is not the reasons for delay in filling up the yet available, vacancies? 2889 (Aii) LS-8. 163 Written Answers DtfCMBlSR 12. 1072 H m ttn A n s w m 1 THE MINISTER QF RAILWAY’S of Assistant Statibn Masters lit-gttaWfe (SHRI T. A. PAI) : (a) Rs. 205—280 from the working strength and to allot the appropriate sCaleto Category Actual Sanctioned Rest giver Assistant Station Masters. strength strength A ssistant Station 4 7 6 , 5 * 8 f m % s r t f * tit Masters (Rs. 13c— 2 4 0 ) Station M asters/ A sstt. Station M as 4094. sro iftfar : ters (Rs. 205— 280) 308 313 jprr fsraif *flT faqa ^ tit (b) The number of vacancies in grade Rs. 130—240 and Rs. 205—280 is 42 and 5 respectively. A batch of (w>) ^tt ^ Mrs spmfr 107 candidates is under training in the (Srn; st^bt) *r irraretaT arrcr Railway Zonal Training School, Chandausi who will be available for s m r #rTqTT TK ?TTcf^ f^TcT posting as Assistant Station Masters by the end of March, 1973. Action has also been taken for filling up vacanc (^ ) irfe ft, eft ^ *rar ies of Assistant Station Masters (Sta sRT I ^ CRT ^rftcr fc m tion Masters in grade Rs. 205—280. 3ntf»n ? Rest giver Asstt. Station Masters to Delhi Division (Northern Railway) ftyarrf tfsrra* *r 3rw«fir 4093. SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHAU: : (*r) srfc ( ^ ) . Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 3rfT ST^TT TOTT *FT STttft faSt % vfW I STST % f?fS(v5r &5T % OTW (a) whether there are Rest Giver Assistant Station Masters in the Grade 400 wsrrc startt % crrfrar Of Rs, 205—280 in six Divisions of the aft w f a s vttT % f^rtr sr^enrar | 1 Northern Railway except ia D'*lhi Division; and st^st ?nc«Fn; A n d h r a . 3 2 5 A s s a m 3 8 B i h a r . 2j794 D e l h i .... 7 G u j r a t . 1 ,1 9 8 H a r y a n a 1 4 4 Him achal Pradesh - 1 2 7 K e r a l a . 8 3 1 M adhya Pradesh . 1,789 M a h r a s t h r a 1 ,6 8 8 M y s o r e . 429 Nagaland 1 O r i s s a 4 0 8 P u n j a b .... 589 R a j a s t h a n , . 1,156 Tamil Kadu 1 >031 T r i p u r a 12 Uttar Pradesh 6 ,0 4 6 W est Bengal 2 , 3 0 7 T o t a l . 2 0 . 9 2 0 Railway line between Bichia Station line between Bichia and Kaurialaghat and Kaurlalaghat via. River Ghagra Stations on the North-Eastern Rail 4098. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: Will way connecting the two Districts of the Minister of RAILWAYS be pieas- Bahraich and Lakhimpur Khen of ted to state: Uttar Pradesh via river Ghagra; and (a) what progress has so far been (b) by what time Government pro imade in the construction of Railway pose to finish the work? 1*7 Written Antwert DECKMBEB12, lW i Written A n m tn 16 8 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (c) the reaction of Government (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Construction thereto? of this rail link has been sanctioned ad ancillary to the Barabanki-Samas- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tipur M.G. to B.G. conversion project MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND on 25th April, 1872. Preliminary POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) arrangements have been initiated for to (c). The Mysore Government has commencing the work. approached the Central Government for special assistance for four of their (b) By March, 1*75. major irrigation projects viz., upper Krishna Project, Malaprabha Project, Setting up of a Power Project in Ghataprabha project stage II and Nepal Hemavathi project. A study Team was sent by the Planning Commission 4 m . SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: Will the in early October 1972 to assess the Minister of IRRIGATION AND requirements for Upper Krishna Stage POWER be pleased to state: I, Malaprabha and Ghataprabha. Stage Stage II project. The report of the (a) whether there is any proposal Study Team is being looked into. to set up in the near future a power project in the territory of Nepal, near Damage to Sharavathy Hydro-electric Bahraich district (Uttar Pradesh), Project, Mysore under Indo-Nepal auspices to supply electricity to the North-eastern region 4101. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will of Uttar Pradesh; and f the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state: (b) whether there is any other al ternative scheme to provide electricity (a) whether damage has been a t cheap rate to the said region? caussed to the water conductor sys tems of the Sharavathy Hydro-electric THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE project in Mysore State; MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) (b) whether any repair work has Yes, Sir. There is a proposal by the been started and the Central Gov Nepal Government to set up a large ernment have given any technical: hydro electric power station at Karnali assistance; and in Nepal from which power supply (c) if so, the salient features there could be made to Uttar Pradesh. of? (b) There is also a proposal for set ting up Pancheshwar Hydel Project THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE , on the U.P. Nepal border with a MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND capacity of 590 MW firm power and POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a> 5200 million kwh annual energy out Yes, Sir. put. (b) Repairs were started on 28thr August, 1972 and completed on 3rd Aid for Irrigation Projects In Mysore September 1972. Three Technical Ex perts were deputed by the Govern 4100. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will ment of India for observation of the the Minister of IRRIGATION AND damages caused to the Water Con POWER be pleased to state: ductor System and to advise on the repairs to be carried out (a) whether Mysore Government have asked for Centre’s aid for irri (c) Weaker concrete in pot-holes gation projects in that State; was, chisled, cleaned and fresh con crete was laid and gunnited. Repairs (b) the projects for which the were carried out satisfactorily and Mysore Government want Central aid; the tunnel was put into operation on» and title 4th September 1972. 159 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21,1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 170 Installation of Nitrogen and Phos (b) the demand for wagons s ix phates Plants months ago; and 4102. SHRI B. S. BHAURA: (c) how much of it could be met? SHRl D. K. PANDA: THE MINISTER FOR RAILWAYS Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Not all the AND CHEMICALS be pleased to requirements in time. state: (b) and (c). During January to (a) whether plants with capacity of June 1972, 46,26,643 wagons were sup 6.5 million tonnes of Nitrogen and 2.5 plied against indents of 76,02,142 million tonnes of Phosphates have to wagons all of which cannot be consi be installed by 1978-79 in order to dered as genuine because of the many meet the demand of fertilizers; cancellations that took place wtien (b) if so, the broad outlines of the wagons were supplied. programme laid down in this regard; “Operation Sabarmati” launched by and Western Railway (c) whether decision regarding in vestment in public and private sector 404. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA: has not been taken yet? Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether “Operation Sabarmati” CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR programme was launched by the SINGH): (a) According to present Western Railway Administration at indications, the consumption of ferti Sabarmati Goodsi Shed (TP.) from lizers by the end of the Fifth Plan 15th January, 1971 to 14th February, is expected to be of the order of 5.2 1971; million tonnes of nitrogen and 2.1 (b) if so, the irregularities noticed million tonnes of P205. To achieve and the remedial measures taken dur this consumption target, a total capa ing the programme; city of about 7 million tonnes of nitro (c) the number of full wagon load gen and 2.5 million tonnes of P205 and “Small” wagon dealt with by would have to be developed well Sabarmati Station from April 72 to ahead of the terminal year of the Fifth Plan. October 72, month-wise; and (d) the number of Goods Clerks (b) and (c). A Task Force has been employed for transhipment purpose set up to consider on an integrated and actually required according to the basis the various aspects relating to prescribed yard stick, and the defe- the development of the aforesaid ciancy, if any and the reasons there capacity and other connected prob for? lems. The studies in this connection are under way. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) Yes. BaUtaay* capacity to meet Industry’s requirement of Wagons (b) Some of the major irregularities noticed during the drive are enume 4103. SHRI M. S. SANJEEVI RAO: rated below: SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- JHUNWALA: (i) Irregular placement of wagons. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (ii) Incorrect marking, labelling, pleased to state: loading of wagons from forwarding stations. (a) whether Government are in a position to meet the requirement of (iii) Incorrect reporting of Damage wagons in the country; and Deficiency messages ie., packing Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Wrtttett Answers 1 ^ con dition weighment particulars, No. (c) the reasons for the loss and of packages, position of panel cut, etc. the remedial steps taken in this re not shown. gard? (iv) Jute twine used for sealing in some cases instead of cotton tape. THE MINISTER FOR RAILWAYS (SHRI T. A. PAI): (a) The informa Cv) Tie-on labels not used on open tion is given below:— wagons. (vi) Guidances and copies of invoi ces not kept In wagons. Destination Station No. of consigi ircnts booked durirg (vii) Insufficient number of rivets used. (viii) Dunnage not provided where April '72 May '72 required. J o d h p u r . 9 C 0 1 4 8 7 9 So far as Sabarmati Transhipment D e l h i . 3 0 2 3 8 13293 Point was conccrned, most of the ir regularities were rectified at the spot. J a i p u r . 8443 6 8 7 2 Inrespect of others necessary follow up action was taken. A j m e r . 6 8 9 1 7938 (q) The information is given in the R a j k o t 2 3 2 0 statement laid on the Table oi the House: \Placed in Library, See No. J a m n a g a r 1 4 9 48 LT~3999{ 172]. B h a v n a g a r 319 49* (d) 45 Goods Clerks have been em J e t a l s a r . ployed at Sabarmati for transhipment work. This strength is considered J u n a g a d h fo 68 adequate to meet the normal require ments of traffic as per yardstick. lb) The total number of parcels of Perishable Consignments which did not reach destinations men at Ahmedabad Station tioned above was 381. The amount of claims so far paid works out to Rs. 10,280 75 P. 4105.' SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (c) The loss is attributable to irre (a) the total number of perishable gular loading at the booking station Consignments booked from Abmtda- or over-carriage beyond destination b&d Parcel Office, during April and stations. To prevent such occurren May 72, separately for Jodhpur, Delhi, ces, the Railway Administration has (Jaipur, Ajmer, Rajkot, Jamnagar, issued instructions to ensure correct Bhavnagar, Jetalsar and Junagadh loading of all parcels invariably ac stations, month*-wise; companied by the relevant Parcel Way Bill and to see that marking, (b) the total number of parcels packing and labelling is correctly which did apt reach destinations at done. The staff responsible for short qll and the total amount of claim paid loading or cross loading in specific in lieu thereof; and cases are also to be taken up suitably. 173 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 ( SAKA) Written Answers 174 Request of LOC. to Various Gov been maintained and if not the rea ernment Departments for Meeting sons thexefor; and their Requinnents from Scjst Can didates (c) what specific steps Govern ment propose to take to fulfil the 4106 SHRI A S KASTURE: Will short fall’ the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether Indian Oil Corpora CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR tion had approached various Gov SINGH) (a) The category-viise staff ernment Departments vide its letter strength and the number of emplo No P&A)1121|Genl dated the 1st yees belonging to Scheduled Castes/ April, 1970 for meeting its require Tubes working under each category ment' to various grades of officers are shown below from Scheduled Caste'Tribes, C l a s s (b) if so, the number of candida tes belonging to these communities I II III who applied in response theieto, and (0 Staff Strength as on 1-1-72 (c) the number of candidates fina (categorywise) 2559 3745 8699 lly selected and appointed’ 00 N o o f e m THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ployees b e MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND l o n g i n g t o CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR SC/S7s 21 64 971 SINGH) (a) Yes, Sir (b) It has not been possible for the (b) 532. Coiporation to maintain the prescrib ed quota of reservation for the mem- (c) None of the applicants could be beis of Scheduled Cartes and Sche selected as the Corpoiation finally duled Tribes categoiy-wise due to the decided not to proceed with the rec non-availability of suitable candidates ruitment on account of the agitation from thes*» communities Besides IOC made by the employees against the had also to take over some staff of recuntment procedure followed by the private oil companies consequent the Corporation upon the purchase of thur facilities and none of these belonged to Sche Staff strength, category-wise in I.OC duled Caste/Tribe categories and Number of Employees Belonging to Scheduled Tribes (c) The Coiporation continues to take the followmg measures to le- 4107. SHRI A S KASTURE Will cruit members of Scheduled Castes the Minister of PETROLEUM AND and Scheduled Tribes in line with the CHEMICALS be pleased to state* directive issued by the Government with regard to the reservation of (a) the staff strength category- posts for the members belonging to wise, m the Indian Oil Corporation these communities as on the 1st January, 1972 and the number of employees belonging to (1) Relaxation with regard to job Scheduled CastejTribes. qualifications both at the time of preliminary screening of (b) Whether reservation quota for applications and final selection Scheduled Castes and Tnbe-3 has of the candidates 175 Written Answers DECEMBER 12, 1972 Written Answers 176 (ii) Corporation provides in- (*r) «rtt flwfliw vmtftiv *gT- service training to the mem % umiWf ^ «rr fa bers of the Scheduled Caste/ «mr p th tsr* Tribes on released standards f3Rf?r # ?r$ *rrcr =*Tf^; in the case of 'jobs of techni cal nature. (ir) *rt*r%n*ijan:, 1 9 7 0 ,1 9 7 1 i972^iR ^^ wr-wr (Ufa iff^rr) (*t*r % 1970 1971 1972 1970 ' 1971 1972 1072 2301 1364 3,48,681 14,72,435 6,78,482 « r m 681 1485 10 1 8 3,8 3 ,7 2 1 9 ,9 4 ,0 0 4 6119 ,7 11 n m r f 181 383 236 6 5 ,1 5 5 1 ,8 9 ,6 3 5 8 3 ,1 6 5 "Wf^C 1310 2 8 9 0 1916 5,16,071 12,84,330 8 ,3 0 ,5 9 2 ttw r 403 1097 755 1 ,82 ,641 4,00,831 2,66,057 t r m 48 164 2 1 0 1 1 ,9 5 7 7 6 ,7 3 7 9 4 ,7 4 6 *m rf wte 415 1015 741 1 ,9 1 ,6 2 3 5,56,379 5,43,564 41 1 0 93 3 5 6240 16/99,849 49 74,351 3 1 ,1 6 ,3 1 7 *77 Vrtttwn Ammtmhs AGRAHAYANA 21, 1804 (SAKA) Written Answers 178 1972 % vsgvr ?RT mission has been taken over by the Central Government; and m f s r if, 1971 % m m *ftt w rvft m g$ (b) if so, the measures Govern ment propose to take to combat the vftfa inrirc *r t it floods menace from the Brahma vJW*OTT VW Tjfft r®RT^T ¥1 (b) whether no administrative and (m) irf* f t ?ft wr 3* ftraWf tit other sanctions have been made so. q* *fir *nrr qwr (b) The estimate tor this work has <*• «nf) : (») been sanctioned on 2SU4-197& Neces t i t ?rp 1 sary preliminary arrangement are being made to take up the work. (*)«&*(*)• Take over of Brahmaputra Flood Production of Fertiliser Suffering due Control Commission to internal ailments In F.CX 4110. SHRI DINESH CHANDER 4112. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA: GOSWAMI: W ill the Minister of W ill the Minister of PETROLEUM IRRIGATION AND POWER be AND CHEMICALS be I pleased to pleased to state: state: (a) whether the effective control of (a) whether Government’s atten 1he Brahmaputra Flood Control Com tion has been drawn to Editorial of *79 Written Answers DECEMBER 12* 1972 Wirttien Answers 180 %he$talteman dated the 26th Novem for expansion of Nan®al usiqg ber, 1972 appearing under caption 011 heavy fractions as the feedstock- "‘Demands for Fertilizer" stating that in lieu of electricity is also under production of fertilizers is suffering consideration. mainly because of internal ailments SHRI S. A KADER: Sir, I want in th6- Fertilizer Corporation of India to raise a point of procedure.. and that its inefficient management has crippled Sindri, Gorakhpur and MR. SPEAKER: Not now; after NangaJ. plants; and some time. He must know the order of business. He cannot get up an (b) it so-, Governments reaction time he wants, thereto? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 12 hrs. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER CHEMICALS (SHRI DALBIR OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE SINGH): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The problem at Sindri is that it is an old Reported closure of Evening C o l and ageing plant which suffers from leg es AND TrlKEE FACULTIES OF BANARAS- frequent mechanical failures and Hindu University Other . breakdowns. The non-avail ability of raw materials of the requi site type, namely, gypsum arid coal, is also proving to be another bottle sft trs? -sutfsrt («rrf5r^): neck to production efficiency. Various srssrsr aft, t % corrective steps have been, or are being, taken to get over these pro blems and also maximise production. SWFST SPMTOT W t OTFT f^HFTT g Among other things, a ‘rationalisa srpfrrr j fv # w ant *r tion’ scheme for production oi phos- «nffT®T ? :— phatic fertilizers, which will eliminate dependence on natural gypsum is “otw trarcffa % *rforpr*am under implementation. Another Scheme, known as the Sindri ‘Moder sprror flrafam snr nisation Scheme is also under con % g-flRTTSrta 5fvT%5ff SSTTT cft?T sideration. This scheme will ,be based on heavy petroleum fractions as the WPff % 3FTW feedstock in lieu of coke and coke % m ^rr oven gas presently being used at ■ • \” : Sindri afi the feedstock: ' Production at Gorkhapur was THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, affected as f a result, mainly* pf * labour SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE strike lasting for' over a mpn.th. .,.(B»OP..'Si. NURUL.HASAN): Sir, ,soon; after .the Banaras Hijadu Uni The Nangal plant is capable of versity reopened after, the Dussehra operating a t; full capacity ; and even vacations, Shri Mahendra Nath Singh Vp °re„ provided adequate. . pow ^ is and ■ 51m .Jp,, N. .Srivastava,. : Vice- available to it, As a. -result, President ■ and General Secretary of however, of the power shortage in the the Students Union started an agita region,; power supply is presently tion for the fulfilment Of fcertain reetw^ted to &8 MW per day, ' as demands. On 1 7 # NovenSber, 1972 aga%# its contracted demand of 164 they organised'a meeting Outside the MW. ’this means a production loss University Gate and put fbrth 34 of about 30,000 tonnes per annum of demands. These included withdrawal nitrogen. In this context, a scheme o|. expulsion orders and re^drnjasimof iZtHepotted Ctosje AtSRAHAVANA 21, 1&94 (SAKA) Evening Colleges *82 and Faculties of BHU (CA) [Prof. S. Narul Hasan], section of the ir.cb. On his reaching all the students expelled last years, the campus from the DAV College, promotion of first year students in a crowd of nearly 500 students and all the faculties in the same manner some anti-social elements from out as in Commerce and Art faculties, side ‘gheraoed’ him. The police had appointment of all the Heads of to be called in and on arrival of the Departments by rotation according to police the crowd disperssd. senority on a 2 year term, shifting of evening college from the city campus On December 2, 1972, the Vice- to the main campus, and modifications President of the Students Union gave of the Bar Council of India regula an assurance to the Vice-Chancellor tions. The Vice-Chancellor had ear in the presence of the City Magistrate lier constituted a Joint Students that they would place their demands Faculty Consultative Committee which in a peaceful manner if the police included the President, Vice- was withdrawn from the campus. President and General Secretary of Thereupon the District authorities the Students Union for mutual dis were requested to withdraw the police cussion and in particular to secure force and the police withdrew on students* participation. The Vice- December 3, 1972. President and the General Secretary of the Students Union did not, how On December 4, 1972 the Vice- ever, attend the meeting of this Com President and the General Secretary mittee. Instead they went out of of the Students Union organised a Varanasi. On their return, the Regis meeting in the University during trar met them and requested them to class hours in contravention of the meet and discuss the various demands Registrar^ notification and led a with the Vice-Chancellor. The crowd of nearly 200 students to the General Secretary met the Vice- Central Office of the University. Chancellor on November 25, 1972 and About 40 students forced their entry discussed some of the demands and into the Registrar’s Office and asked promised to meet him again but did him in a threatening language to call not do so. The Vice-President of the back the Vice-Chancellor from Delhi Union never met the Vice-Chancellor. where he had gone for attending a Instead both of them started organis meeting. ing meetings and leading groups of students to the University Office for On December 5, 1972, the Vice- fulfilment of their demands. For President of the Union and his sup almost two weeks they, along with porters oi-gam,sed a “Black Day” and outsiders, organised meetings (which took a procession to the Town Hall they were not permitted to dp during^ college hours), used loud speakers' On December 7, 1972, at about 1.30 which disturbed the classes and caus P.M., when the Vice-Chancellor was ed dislocation of traffic inside the out of the University, a crowd of campus. students surrpunded his residence and conveyed through the peon a On December I, 1972, whm the message that if the Vice-Chancellor Vice-Chancellor went to the DAV did not meet them by 2.00 P.M. they College t6 address a meeting of the would be free to take such action as students, a mob shouting slogans for they deemed proper. The students the withdrawal of expulsion orders also threatened that if their demands and re-admission of expelled students v -'re not conceded the whole Univer assaulted him and damaged his car. sity would be burnt. At this stage, The Vice-Chancellor was escorted to the District Magistrate and the Senior the function with police Assistance. Superintendent of Police entered thfe While he was returning after the campus and requested the crowd to meeting, he was manhandled by a disperse peacefully. The crowd Evening CoU*B*' j H Reported Closure DECEMBER 12, 1972 and Facuitiet of i8 3 of SHU (CA> general body of * “ he“ “ dIS £ £ sefused to do so The police fo use their influence in ******** water hosepipes to disperse the crow. normal «nd peaceful condlUm » tfcg The mob became violent ana maulgea tlm great University, of wUd. m in widespread bnckbatting and arson. country is justly proud, may be The University Offices were broken open and the University branch of to function normally the State Bank was attacked and an attempt was made to loot it Attempt was also made to set the University gfr, qfirarfre t % *t$ sfrfcTT ** foWT post office on fire The Cafetana and f t am* | eft f*RT err? % ^ f the City Delegacy office were bioken open and some articles removed A ^ w * 5* tent near the University telephone 11 w h re exchange was pet on fire and two * headgears of the exchange looted ir sffasrT «r, SrfoT ftrsn sr^t ft The University Dispensary was bro aft *rwr *\ i i ^ m u *ft ken open and a car of the University ^ W I id ir f i|8T badly damaged About half a dozen packing cases containing consignment qr v t f w of scientific material which were *lf *ft ?RT w t w t being brought from the Railway Sta tion were snatched and set on fire jtrt tr$ fa m m i One woman in the campus was' robbed of her necklace anrr snaffer | f¥ % In view of the widespread brick- battmg, arson and looting, the Vice- Chancellor, in consultation with the 3ft *ftfa 3nr?*r ^nrarar wrer % Academic Council, decided to close fvrvrr f w r *rtft §tt grm 7 1 % f 1 v r down the faculties of Law, Arts and Social Sciences, including the evening % ’sttw sNftfj Colleges sine die airor fr&tft *?t 1 On December 8, 1972 violence again \ f * m % vr s«rn*T ?r^t f w broke out. Dr Umesh Prasad, Reader in Economics, was attacked by hooli w 1 w ?rw | gans and beaten He was taken to % sftrfe %ttK *fcrt the Hospital where two of his front & 2 fw sx vtlt^r it ? *rt teeth which had been loosened by beating had to be removed. A Senior Research Scholar was also severely vnpsr smnrc nwr 1 wt iwinwft beaten. The University Cooperative Store was completely ransacked qmd ,*Pt WhPTT f ? *RT ITfET ’fTHTTT then set on fire. Two other stores ^ filVlWt 5t ^ im t TTRT V [aft sr fa$ri!t wnr arnrt?ft] faprr « m ^ ^ % $ b t o ^ k r t o t fao s*r w fwfaTOir * sr%snr ;m r ^ e r ^ f wrarww *rr sfa w r sreft ^ fa r- ^cTTCt *fV ? 3¥ % $fa*T n “I would like to give an as surance to my hon friend that I «ttgir#ri h K fWrnNFnir B ro ad d e t a il s o r t h e l i n e o r c o n t r o l 'Sft, $ ^ l^ ll ^3% 3WT <5WT *FT ^Tff (a) From MANAWAR TAWI NW ^ frr *tan- % i 605550 the Line of Control runs North West upto a point 3 miles West of £ HANGAR (with CHHAMB inclusive sm w w$t*v : t to PAKISTAN), from where it turns North eastwards to MITHIDHARA NR 2619, thence North and North West vsm fw$r$ wPsAth ^ ward* upto PUNCH River at NR snwrv «trt 11 fnft ?r* htvtt sttst 052669 (approximately 6 miles South West of PtJNCH): *r*?Ar aft TrfyM R *t IffaT ?H| sjFRTTT | %ftX (b) From there the Line again turns North Eastwards and thence North upto JAItN* GAW (inclusive whtvt sfaT 3W w k ffcwr t !3w r f w - to INDIA) in GUJLMARG Sector, w f#npr % ffnr MB. SPEAKER: These are the SHRI PILOO MODYf Let history nife*. judge us. No expunging should be there. SHRI N. K P. SALVE: Please al low me just half a minute to quote what the Chairman had said. Though SHRI JYOTIRMOY BQSU; I shall allegations were allowed to be made also make my submsisions under Di subject to your ruling on this point, rection 115, but at the present mo an assurance was given that they ment I say that I had given a written would be expunged, andthis was what notice in time indicating the names, the Chairman had state.... under rule 358 does not require me to give the points. SHRI PILOO MODY: No expung ing. MR. SPEAKER: What is this rule then? SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: No expunging. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Do not interrupt me, always; kindly allow SHRI N. K P. SALVE: The Chair me to speak. 363 does not anywhere- man said: —if I know a little bit of English, if I know how to read if—provide that we “Though it is on the record, un should give the Speaker and the Mi less I have gone through it, given nister the points; that will amount to Second thought to it, and consult giving my cards before hand. How do the Hon- Speaker and also the law, you expect it? I want to have an ele I mean, the rules of the House, I ment of surprise in the statement that will not touch it I shall see if it I make before the House. Then, se should not be there as a public do condly, if somebody does something, cument or it should remain on the goes on taking money right and left, records.” ruins the economy of the country... Therefore, if the intimation given by the hon. Member is not within the MR. SPEAKER; Ybu have already postulates of rule 358, if it is defama said enough. tory or incriminatory in character, in view of this categorical ruling given SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; I am yesterday by the Chairman---- not mentioning any name. If some political party makes use of the poli SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: It was tical machinery for collecting money, no* * ruling but only an observation have I no right to say so here? You by him. can as well shut up this Parliament SHRI N. K. P. SALVE:.. . though and we shall walk out.. This is a it was recorded tentatively, I submit forum where I shall always say this that whatever has gone on record be and 1 shall continue to say this. directed to be expunged in terms of rule m . MR. SPEAKER: This forum has its rules. In the same rule which I quo SOME HON. MEMBERS: No ex ted just now, it says that you Bhould punging, absolutely none. inform the Minister concerned so- that the Minister may be able to make SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: What an investigation into the m atter.... ever- Shri N. K* P. Salve has said (fwtemtptioas) .if the matter is not should be expunged. given, there is no use giving this 2 i< Re. allegations made . DECBJMBIJR I?, 1972 He. Sw9^ r f fey ^otirtnoy -Botftt W* [Mr. Speakerj~ MR. SPEAKER; W* w^um lor infanpaUon. How can I allow TM* usoh to g»»pqwabte atZA9. > is a rule of the House that you should 13.15, bn . not bring in a w individual jrame. St you give a certain individual t$y nam£» The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lmeh who is not present in the House, than till fifteen m inutes pass Fourteen of this rule must apply. If you wanf to the HHock. ^censure the conduct of a Minister, there te a separate rule, but not this. The Lok Sabha Unassembled after In this case, when you make an al legation 'against even any Member of Lunch at tw enty minutes past Four teen of the Clock, •this House and individual outside the House, you must give notice. [Mr. Deputy -Speambr in the Chair] SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I have RE SWEEPERS’ STRIKE IN D®L»I igiven notic^. ■ MR. SPEAKER: Merely mentioning SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): that I am going to mention somebody's Sir, you must have read in today’s name—■'that i$ no application of the newspapers that the sweppers* strike rule. I think you better go for lunch has been declared illegel. No effort now. has been made to have a negotiated settlement with them. Under the Es SHRI SHYAMN AND AN MISHRA: sential Services Maintenance Act* the ■W# -shall have to make some submis sweepers are being arrested under the sion because this is a very important DIR. The services of a lot of tempo ruling that you are giving now. rary and casual sweepers hpve been terminated. Since this has happened MR. SPEAKER: It is there; I am in Delhi, let the Minister note •not ading anything on my behalf. of it. None of the Ministers either of the Cabinet or of State or even De SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: puty Ministers is present. My submission is that yt>u are inter MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The De preting the earlier rulings on the puty Minister for Finance is here. subject in a not very corrent way. SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA MR. SPEAKER: Let me know what (Saranpore): This is a very serious i* meant by this word ‘matter*. matter. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: tffsT w r fisstft) : You were yourself pleased to say that ^ tfw qfa *rrcr s it Hhews is a provision for no-confidence motion. Do you expect therefore even STOTT ^ #5 WZ T |, JT? for the purpose of no-confidence mo ^ w t 11 sTanT y t w r f im ft* tion that we should submit in writing f w i v r ’M p h «rr the allegation that we are going to make against the Minister? ft srrf h tt t o t ssrrf$} i SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: MR. SPEAKER: X said there is a separate procedure or it... (Interrupt There is no ruling from jyou. Ipjo ypy Hons). justify the application of the DIR to them? SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA; MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am not I am coming to 853. Your ruling, X here to give any ruling on I t (fcWfcr- mast submit, |g not correct ruptions). You make me tihottf and. 2*7 Jnd. Xfct*. AGRAHAYANA 21, 1804 (&*&») Bank of India 2>i8 {Amdt) Bill you want to corlvert this House into come to the conclusion that it would a Routing place Mr Bftnerjee has not he advisable or »in the national already brought the point and ^ Is interest to accept this recommendation before the House It is fbt the Govern The functions of IFC and IDBI may ment to takte notice of it t>o you be overlapping to some extent so far solve the problem by reusing your as direct finance is concerned, but the voice7 IDBI has a much wider scope It al&o undertakes refinancing business There 14 22 hrs. is no overlapping in that section IFC has specialised in financing sugar co INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BAN& operatives, textile coperatives and OF INDIA (AMENDMENT) BILL jute nulls But IDBI goes much fur —Contd. ther, it goes to the core sector and MB DEPUTY-SPEAKER Shri heavy industries It has capacity to Jyotirmoy Bosu-not here Shri Laksh- lend huge amounts of money for the manan-not here The Minister priority sectors The IDBI and IFC THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE should not be merged because they MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI have their own specialised jobs More SUSHILA ROHATGI) Sir, this Bill over, the modem trend is more for which is before the House for consi decentralisation rather than to have deration and passing is one of the a monolithic structure Even in gene three banking amendment Bills which ral insurance, there is a move not in a couple of days will be discussed only to have one corporation or com and passed by this House These are pany but to have more than one some very progressive steps and after Therefore, if this suggestion of Mr having listened to the members yes Bade is accepted, it would not be a terday, I believe they have been wide historic and evolutionary steP, but ly acclaimed and welcomed with cer rather a retrograde step I am sorry tain exceptions First and foremost, we will not be in a position to accept I would like to congratulate the mem it bers and thank them for having wel A very relevant point was raised comed this Bill by some hon Members of our party Before I go into the points raised as well as the other parties, namely, yesterday in detail, I would like to that the IDBI should give more atten say that this Bill will open up new tion to the backward areas both in honzens It will give more opportuni the location of industries as well as ties to entrepreneurs It will give m investment of more money m those more opportunities for production by areas m order to remove the regional giving greater facilities It will give disparities It has been precisely the more foreign exchange to the country intention, the policy and the effort of and the overall impact will be deve the IDBI to give the maximum at lopment of the ountry at « much tention to the backward areas In faster pace Therefore, I am sure hon 1969-70 there was a comprehensive members will give it full support scheme of giving concessional finance to the entrepreneurs who were esta X would now take up some of the blishing industries m the backward suggestions made yesterday and give areas Eft 1971 this lending on conces tiie reasons why w* may or may not sional terms was further extended to accept them. Mr Bade referred to the expanding industries to the’* backward recommendation mad* by the Com area* I am happy to say that 46 per mitto$ on Public Undertakings that eent of tit* direct assistance sanction the 3$$$ IFC should fee merged. ed* by IDBI' dbring rtW*72 In respect True, pudi * recommendation waa of indusfc*tf concm * has gone to the quri* hu* the Gevenwnassit w ent iato KifiWgrtFafffoy Ifta suggest that HhtmaMm to great depth and having m ZftSTt i&fvftie* tifrfe been really considered it from both sides, we have penetrating Into the backward areas DECEMBER 12, 1OT2 Bank of Inga 2 *0 2i9 Ind. Dev. (A m dt) m b cerns in which government do wrt fShrimati Sushila Rohatgi]. Regarding its promotional activities have 51 per cent shares but only # it is said that IDBI is only concerned per cent or less, like the Gujarat Slate with preparing reports and it is not Fertilizer Company, where the Guja interested in the implementation of rat Government has only 49 per cent •those reports. In 16 States ot the shares, the Asoka Paper Mills, where country survey® have been conducted Assam and Bihar Government have and the survey reports have also been shares and the Mangalore Fertilizer assimilated in a number of States. factory, which is also Joint sector The IDBI has not remained content project. Sb, a number of projects fi with carrying on surveys and getting nanced by the IDBI are in the joint reports It has specified the type of sector though they may be said to industries which are suitable for par fall in the private sector. ticular districts or particular areas. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI 'This is a specialised job. Some of the (BHUBANSWAR): What are you go reports have been out and they have ing to do to change the pattern? tspecified the particular places where particular industries should be set up, SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: all depending upon the infra-struc- The very object or amending these ture, the labour potential, raw material caluses is to further illustrate clarify -and other factors which are necessary and extend the scope of activities of for starting industries. Therefore, the the IDBI. initiative now lies with the State Shri Jyotirmoy Basu said that the Governments and the entrepreneurs bulk of the assistance has gone to the as to how to set up those industries big business houses. He has imputed which have been suggested by the ID all types of motives in his ebullieifV BI in particular districts or areas. So, eloquence. Yet, he is not 'here to hear the IDBI has played that role of pro- the reply. All the same, for the pur .moting the industrialisation of the poses of record I would like to say country and it has not been lost sight a few facts. If he is interested in it, .of. As a matter of fact, the initiative I am sure he will read it. should now be taken by the State •Governments and the entrepeneurs to As the apex body, IDBI is the only •get the maximum loan from the IDBI body which really has the capacity To ftor the setting up of those endustries make huge loans available to the in those areas. core and heavy sector industries. They belong to the priority sector and the Shri Panigrahi mentioned that 79 quantum t>f money required by them per cent of the assistance of IDBI in is huge. Naturally, this is the only 1970-71 has gone to the private sec institution which can supply credit tor. We will not agree with him, so them, A special mention was made of fat as facts are concerned in this Tatas and Birlas, We find that quite a particular case. Here I will say at the substantial part of the funds given beginning that this apex institution to the Birla group is for fertilizer, was set up really to assist the private special steel project and export of sector to aome extent. Allocations for textile machinery and railway wagons. the public sector undertakings were For Tatas, it is for steel rollers and being given largely by government. It expert of some items. For Sri Ram is only lor the last few years that the it is for the fertilizer factory. For publicsector undertakings are also eli ACC, Bajftj and Sahu-Jain it woe in gible to receive finance from the TPBI. respect'of cemeiit. All these projects E*rHer, only the Private sector could have been cohsidered necessary in the get finance from it Even here the implementation of the nfttikmar objec t « a *private’ is very ^ tives aft* as tauft, in conformity **lfh cawse it includes the joint ;sectQ* also. the pQHGtes of the government. 'There is a number of industrial con h»v« beta thxnwtgUy ftxwnte**,even from the point of view of the Mono Clause 2~4h«re is no amendment. poly and Restrictive Trade Practices The question is: Act, end they have been found to be feasible end neceesw from the prio 'That clause 2 stand part of the rity point of view. Therefore, that B ill.” argument does not realty stand. The motion was adopted. Even if we take up the break-up, the percentage of assistance given to Clause 2 was added to the Bill. these big houses out of the total as sistance works out to 54.08 per cent MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Clause 3 up to 30th June 1972. In terms of —There are four amendments given money, the large industrial houses notice of by Sfori Ram Avtar Shastri have got Rs. 16890 crores out of the and Shri Madhukar. I do not see any of them here. So, they are not total assistance of Rs. 312.60 crores. moved. Shri A. N. Vidyalankar, a very Then, I put the rest of the clauses senior colleague, has stated something and the rest of the Bill to the vote of about lack of co-ordination I am the House. happy to say that an inter-institution al group has been set up for ten States The question is: which is looking into this aspect. That clauses 8 to 8, Clause 1, the Shri Jyotirmoy Basu mentioned that Enacting Formula and the Title even foreign majority shareholding stand part of the Bill.” companies receive assistance from the IDBI. The position is that once a body The motion was adopted is registered under the Indian Com Clauses 3 to 8, Clause 1, the Enacting panies Act, the IDBI cannot make any Formula and the Title were added to discrimination between companies in the Bill. the matter of assistance. Also, it would not be m keeping with banking and SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: international practice. Of course, it 1 beg to move; has been our effort to see that the involvement and participation of the “That the Bill be passed” Indians must gradually increase, and MR DEPUTY SPEAKER- The we have been working in that direc question is: tion. “That the Bill be passed" I hope I have met most of the argu ments of the hon. Members. So, I The motton was adopted. would request the House to accept this Bill without any reservation and give it the credit which it really deserves 14.87. hrs. MR, DEPUTY SPEAKER. The INDUSTRIAL FINANCE CORPORA question is: TION (AMENDMENT) BILL “That the Bill to amend the In THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE dustrial Development Bank of India MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI Act, 1964 be taken into consider** SUSHILA ROHATGI): Mr. Deputy- tion”. Speaker, Sir, I big to move*: The motion; urns adopted “That the Bill -further to amend M& DEPUTY SPEAKER: We *ow the Industrial Finance Corporation take nP daase-by-dauae considera A ct, 1H8, be ta&en into considera tion <**«» BUL tion/* t * % P *** ■"ri'TW 'll '»'"*«■*" .■MW-rr fJ m n,lyr. ■.# .»...... » ‘ ■"m.,- ■„al :r;e:~~r;v~s _ ·()f .to 16.02. ctores ~e~n tran~ferred _to the -Devefopment ..tbe c·t time, the Corporation currency. is being enabled to grant assistance At present, the Corporation **"is to industrial concerns which are in under an obligation to divest itself of corporated as private limited com the shares and debentures devolved panies under the Companies Act. on it m fulfilment of its underwrit Public sector undertakings which are ing obligations within a period of 7 normally promoted as private limit years. Consistent with the new ed companies under the Companies policy according to which parts of Act will thus be able to receive assis loans granted by the Corporation, in tance from the Corporation. The new many instances, are to be converted deserving entrepreneurs generally into equity, it is necessary to enable promote enterprises as privat limit the Corporation to hold the shares ed companies and this amendment devolved on it and not to disinvest will enable the Corporation particu them. It is, therefore, proposed to larly to grant foreign currency loans remove the present restriction on to such companies from the different holdings beyond a period of 7 years. foreign lines of credit available with it. The working of the Corporation is As already stated by me, the Cor now sought to be brought in line poration issued its entire authorised with the latest thinking in develop capital and is expanding its activities ment bank lending in favour of a further. It is, therefore, proposed to project-oriented approach, in pre Increase its authorised Capital to 20 ference to security-oriented concept, crores of rupees. thereby leaving the question of taking security in respect of assistance The House may be aware that the granted by it, to its discretion. Committee on Public Undertakings, which examined the working of the I have already mentioned earlier Corporation/ in its report submitted in my speech that the Corporation to Parliament in April, 1970, made has built up its reserve fund and -some recommendations. Such of the special reserves to more than its paid Tecommen dations which have been up capital. Its reserve fund alone is accepted by Government, with or now eqflal to its paid up capital, it -without modifications, are being im is, therefore, no longer -under an obli plemented through this Bill. gation to restrict its dividend to the 327 Indian finance DECEMBER 12* 1972 Corpn, (Arndt.) 2 2 $ BiU [Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi] rates guaranteed by the Central Gov which are minor or of a procedural ernment. There is, however, a ceil nature and designed to strengthen the operations of the Corporation in ing of 5 per cent on the dividend respect of recovery of its loans from which may be declared by the Cor poration. This rate was fixed in the borrowing concerns, and I need 1948 when the concept of taxation of not take Any further time of the dividend was different from the one House to discuss them. The Hoys© at present. Since the rate is now has been very cooperative in hearing subject to deduction of tax at source, my speech and I need not take any furthr time of the House. the rate of 5 per cent is considered rather too low. In line with the With these remarks, I commend other long term financial institutions the Bill to the House for considera operating in the country, I propose tion. to remove this ceiling and leave it to MR. DEPUTY-SPRAKER: Motion the Corporation to declare reasonable moved: dividends depending upon its work “That the Bill further to amend ing results from year to year. It is the Industrial Finance Corporation also groposed to enable the Cor Act, 1948, be taken into considera poration to retain the surplus profits tion.” with it after declaration of its annual dividends so as to augment Mr. Somnath Chatcerjee. its reserves further, instead of being SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE transferred to Government. (Burdwan): We welcome some of A$ the Corporation has built up its the measures which are sought to be reserves sufficiently, it is now m a introduced, namely, making it pos position to undertake some develop sible for the IFC to grant loans to all ment activities out of allocation of companies, whether they are public its profits and grants received from or private companies and in so far outside. A special Benevolent Fund as option is being given to IFC not to is, therefore, proposed to be establish insist on full security for the loans ed in the Corporation to finance granted. These are welcome steps inter cilia the cost of feasibility stu because the provision for gtting full dies, subsidise projects promoted by security was really hampering the technologists and new entrepreneurs, chances of various industries in get especially in less industrially deve ting loans from the IFC. But there loped regions and also to train the are some provisions of the Bill which personnel of financial institutions In require a little deeper consideration. this context I may mention the in- So far as Clause 10 of the Bill iy ititaive recently taken by the Cor concerned, as you will notice, Sir, it poration to establish a Management seeks to insert new sections, 21A and Development Institute -which will 21B. Section 21B provides for power provide training in modern manage to transfer the rights and interests; ment techniques to the clients of the of the Corporation in relation to any Corporation, particularly to new en loan or aidvance granted, or any trepreneurs and technologists who amount recoverable, either in whole for the first time promote an indus or in part, by the execution or issue trial project with financial assistance of any instrumnt, or by the tranfer from the Corporation. The Special of any instrument, etc. But it has Benevolent Fund now proposed to be not b&en said to whom such transfer established will also be one of the can be made. This is a lacuna that sources of funds for the Management I find in the BiU. The power Is given Development Institute to achieve its to the Corporation to transfer tlie objects, ■* rights and interests of the Corpora There are a few other amendments tion in relation tb any loan dr ack 229 *nd' Fin<*n& AGRAHAYANA 21, 1804 (Saka) Corpn. (Amdt .) 230 Bill vance, but who will be the trans der the proposed set-up. But this is ferees, I do not find any reteretice to public money which is being utilis it. If there is any provision in this ed. The provision is already there regard, the hon. Deputy Minister that the regulations framed should may kindly refer Us to that be placed before parliament. Why is > Another provision is about Clause that sought to be done away with? 17. Clause 17 deals with the jurisdic Although the Central Government is tion of the courts. Instead of district not directly involved in it, the pub courts, in all cases, the High Court is lic is very much interested because being sought to be given jurisdiction these are public funds which are to in the matter. I am unhappy the way be utilised for the purpose of carry the drafting has been made. First of ing out the functions of the Indus all, 1 do not know why suddenly the trial Finance Corporation. Why district courts* jurisdiction is sought should parliament give up its right to be curtailed which will not result to consider these regulations? in minimising the arrears which are unfortunately Ihere in the various These are some of the observa High Courts in this country. Also, tions I wish to make on the Bill it the language of the Bill leave? much self. to be desired because it now says So far as the functioning of the that the jurisdiction is to be ascer IFC is concerned, we feel that there tained from the basis which court is a good deal of scope for improve will have power to grant ad interim ment. One of the provisions which injunction. This is a peculiar me is sought to be introduced is to take thod of laying down which court away the bar on the quantum of the will have jurisdiction. You will find rate of dividend that may be declar this on page 8 of the Bill. Clause 17 ed by the IFC. We do not think that (f) says: the rate of dividend distribution is “For the removal of doubts, it the real test by which the function is hereby declared that any Court ing of this IFC is to be judged; nei competent to grant an ad interim ther the profit-earning nor the divi injunction under this section shall dend distribution should be the test, also have the power to appoint a the yardstick, to find out whether receiver and to exercise all other the progress which the IFC seeks to powers incidental thereto.” be claiming to have reached has ac tually been reached. We feel that There is no law which 1 know of the real test to decide whether the which lays down which court will IFC is discharging its duties which have power to pass ad interim in are expected of it is whether the junction. These are, what are financial assistance is being given to known as, interlocutory proceedings; deserving industrial concerns, with unless the court has jurisdiction to what speed or attitude they are dea decide the main matter, the question ling with these applications and so of passing ad interim injunction on. We want to know how long these cannot arise. We are passing a Bill. applications are kept pending, whe Such anomalies and obvious lacunae ther there is proper distribution of should not be there in the Bill. the available resources so that there Then I come to Clause 21 which is no disparity in respect of any in Geeks to do away with the provision dustrial concerns and also that there so long existing of placing the re is no regional imbalance. We want gulations to be framed by the IFC to find out whether these objects are before Parliament for Parliament’s being achieved by the IFC. consideration. It is true that the Central Government will not b 6 con After all. it has to be ascertained tributing Any fund as such to the whether all these concerns which go Industrial Finance Corporation un to the IFC can be made viable units Ind. Finance Corpn. DECEMBER 12, 1972 CIA activities in 233 (Amdt.) Bill (DisC.) [Shri Somnath Chatterjee] As you know, there has been a by themselves. The proper approach justifiable feeling in the State of should be not merely granting loans West Bengal that financial institu to variou 8 concerns in order to tide tions like the IFC which have large over immediate difficulties but to amounts at their disposal, are not eee whether they can themselves making available these resources to mobilise resources by working pro industries or houses or smaller entre perly. This is an important thing preneurs in West Bengal for the pur which has to be achieved. I was going pose of expansion of the industrial through the Annual Report of the activity in that State. We have been 1FC and, very surprisingly, it does referring to the record of the LIC in not mention these important aspects, vestments in the State of West Ben how far the loans are being utilised gal bui I find that the record of IFC for generation of the industrial po is much more dismal. I would like tential in the country, for expanding the hon. Minister t 0 kindly look into employment opportunities in this this and give us the figure so that country, how far uniform and qrder- we may know whether there has ed progress of the industries in dif been any loaded attitude in favour ferent parts of the country is really of any particular area or not. I am achieved. Merely referring to figures not making any accusation as such —the hon. Deputy Minister gave se in the absence of materials with me veral statistics — does not really give but I would like the hon. Minister us a correct and complete picture. t0 look into this and kindly tell us During the last 23 years—I have as to what is the real position. jo t the figures upto 1971 end—the So far as the inter-relation bet Industrial Finance Corporation gave ween the IFC and the Industrial De assistance to 527 projects and the velopment Bank is concerned, there total amount involved was Rs. 366 is a considerable feeling among the crores. If my figures are wrong, I economists also who understand would like to be corrected Out of masters better than us... these 527 projects, 233 only were MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The new projects and the rest were for hon. Member may continue to expansion or for modernisalion of the morrow. Now, we take up the next plant. The real difficulty is that we item. find there has been a complete neg lect of various parts of the country. We do not mind Maharrshtra mak DISCUSSION RE- GROWING C.I.A. ing strides and progress. We wish ACTIVITIES IN INDIA well all other parts of th's country 14.59 hrs. but, during the year 1971-72, Maha MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, rashtra got 19 projects sanctioned we take up the discussion on the for about Rs. 10 or 12 croros. As danger of growing CIA activities in against that, the State of West Ben India. gal had only one project sanctioned involving an amount of onW Rs. 65 Mr. Indrajit Gupta. lakhs. I would like to know from the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Ali- hon. Minister as to how many ap pore): Right at the outset, I will plications have been made from West crave your kind indulgence to give Bengal during 1971-72 and what w^s me a little time, if only, for the rea the amount asked for and how many son that my resolution on the same project* were sanctioned. I find onlv subject which had secured the first one project wag sanctioned. I want to place in the ballot a week or two ago, know how many different types of could not be taken up due to what projects had applied to the IFC for I consider to be the rather over-an* sanction of loans. xious attitude of some people, of 2 3 3 CIA activities in AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (Saka) CIA activities 234 India (Disc.) tit India (Disc.') some Members of the Government matter of alarm and concern and side . . . that the national interests and se curity must be safeguarded against SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra): the activities of foreign intelligence The Minister of Parliamentary Af and subversive organisations includ fairs. ing the CIA. This is what the Pume SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: . . . Minister, according to the Press, said who do not want the subject to come in the meeting of the Consultative before the House in the form of a re Committee aitached’to the Home Mi solution on which it would have been nistry. These utterances have pio- necessary to take a vote at ihe end. voked a big controversy and a big But, anyway, something was done by hullabaloo in this country and, the which that resolution could not be reactions are of various types. moved and, later on, it was discuss ed m the Business Advisory Com There is one reaction to the effect mittee and I am grateful to my hon. that this is only meant for domestic friends and Members on this side consumption and that the object is with whom my views may differ to utilise the name of the CIA in or considerably but who were kind der to defame and slander certain enough to come to an agreement so Opposition Parties. Now, I can say that this matter could be raised by from my own experience that there me m this form today. are some people m this country, and some members, I regret to say, of SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kan the Congress Party who, in their in pur): Including Prof Samar Guha. dividual capacity, have been indulg ing in this type of propaganda in SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Yes, I various places m the States and so on am grateful to him as well as to where they tried to condemn either other friends.. the genuine discontent of the people SHRI PILOO MODY: Did Mr. or any movement of the people, by Bsnorjee support you? saying that this is CIA-inspired I have no doubt about it. I have seen 14.59. hrs. it in my own State also and I regret to say that only recently, on the oc SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, casion of the Prime Minister’s birth this matter has acquired publicity day celebrations on the 19 th of Nov and importance, not because the CIA ember, at a really held in Calcutta, has suddenly started functioning in jointly by the Students Chhatra India but because all of a sudden, Parishad and the Youth Congress, no after so many years, no less a person less a person than the State Minister than the Prime Minister of this for Home Affairs in our State, Mr. country and also the president of Subroto Mukherji, in the course of the ruling Party ___ his speech, said something which should cause delight to some of our SHRI PILOO MODY: Where is he? friends on this side: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: . “Both the CIA and KGB have came out publicly, not once, but se become active with the aim of dis veral times in the Press as well as crediting the Congress Party ” in remarks that they are reported to have made in their own Party So. my friend, Mr. S. N. Mishra, meetings, in the meetings of the Mr. Pilo© Mody and so on, need not CpnsultatiVe Committee of the think that everybody on that side Bfome Ministry and elsewhere, to does not share their point of view. the eflfect that CIA had increased its There are some black sheep there activities in India, that this was a also. *35 CL4 a in DECEMBER 12. 1972 CIA activ ities to 2 36 India (Disc.) India (Otoe.) IShri Indrajit Gupta] istan during the repression of the But, anyway, I am not holding any former Bengali State and the sub cudgels for such people and our Par sequent subcontinental conflict. ty has come out publicly condemn But the Indians carried their pique ing vey sharply those Congressmen to ridiculous lengths when top who, in their individual capacities Government officials levelled ab seek to utilise this attack about CIA surd charges against the CIA tor as a political weapon against their alleged meddling in Indian af opponents. It is only another way of fairs actually belittling the importance and seriousness of this question and So, according to the Nsw York •giving an alibi to the real CIA. Times, this is nothing but pique, pi que against the USA, which was car Then, there has been another re ried to absurd lengths and making action which, I think, is voiced some absurd charges against the C.I.A. times by my CPM friends who, of There is much in common between course, I am sure, on this matter at the arguments of the New York least, share the concern of our Party Times and the arguments of some of about CIA so much but, their re our friends on this side. action, is that after all who is the Prime Minister or who is the leader Therefore, with your kind indul ship of the Congress Party to come gence, I would like t© take a few out and denounce CIA now when all minutes, in my own humble way, just these years since Independence these to try to explain to the House from people, in various ways, by their eco whatever sources are available, as to nomic policies and other means, have what exactly the C.I.A. is. been encouraging the CIA to come and work in this country? Now, Sir, This is not a question of Foreign -even if what they say is correct—for Intelligence Agencies, in plural. argument’s sake, I do not subscribe There are Foreign Intelligence Agen to the view—now, after al] these cies operating, I have not a shadow years, when such a situation has de of a doubt, there may be American, veloped, where a person like the there may be Soviet, there may be Prime Minister of such a big coun British, there may be anybody, they ty, and the President of the Indian operate in this country, they operate National Congress, have deemed it in other countries. I hope that we necessary to do something which also have an Intelligence Service of they have never done before, and some kind which operates wherever have come out publicly, with a warn it is necessary. So, this is an ac ing against the activities of the cepted thing in international usage. C .I.A ., I, at least, however belated The only trouble is that if anybody that may be, am prepared to wel who is enjoying diplomatic immu come i t nity is actually caught red-handed Bather, I would say, I would like doing intelligence or espionage acti to know from the Government that vities, generally, he is declared a they are actually proposing to do persona non grata and asked to apart from talking about it. leave the country, and in war-time, W* ftnd this from the New York if he is caught, of course, he h shot Times on the 6th December, that is, as a spy. only last week, in that famous edi torial which we all hear about, which But, Sir, my contention is, — this i$ being captioned ‘India’s Love menace of the CIA which has been Call*: suddenly projected into tht f lig h t by what, I might take a* their lace ''New Delhi was understandably value, are given air responsible state Wtter over U.S. support for Pak- ments by no less « "'*'son than the 237 CIA activity* tat AGRAHAYANA 21, 18S4 (Sato) CIA activities 238 India (Disc.) in India (Disc.) Prime Minister, is not something is talking just now about India’s which is to be seen in the context of pique against the U .S.A .) has pub an ordinary Intelligence Agency. Be* lished « whole series of articles about cause, Sir, X know m y triends on the C.I.A. I have got them here. If this aide, who speak after me, will go any hon. Member is interested he cm saying, y% yes C.I.A., but what can study them at leisure. Certain about KGB and so on, and what disclosures have been made in the about some other intelligence agen American Press by the famous colu cy. I hold no brieT for any intelli mnist Mr. Jack Anderson. Then, on gence agency. It is the job of the 21st of January, 1972, in its ma the Government to keep a watch on gazine section, the Daily Telegraph the functioning of the intelligence of London has published a whole lot agencies. My contention is entirely of revelations on the way the CIA different. This is a specific discussion functions. Mr. Miles Copeland has on the menace of the C.L.A., not published a book called “The Game other pro-American organisations or of Nations”. Very interesting things pro-American agencies, many of are there. Mr. George Morris has which may be functioning in this published a book “CIA and Ameri country, educational institutions, can labour”. other types of institutions, etc. I am not concerned with them. I am con SHRI PILOO MODY: John Smith cerned with the C.I.A. because, it is also. my contention that the CIA is not SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I am simply a normal intelligence agency, coming. A former officer of the OSS but it is something more. and the CIA, Mr. Sherman Kent, has I may tell you what my source published a book called “Strategic material is. I have depended entirely Intelligence for American World Po on American sources. I have no time licy”. And last but not least, as my to go into all those quotations now friend Mr. Piloo Mody interjected from relevant passages from their just now, Mr. John Smith, whose works. There are two works by two book was entitled, not like Mr. authors called David Wise and Tho Piloo Mody’s badge, 1 am a CIA mas B. Ross. One is called ‘Espio agent’,—but, ‘I was a CIA agent’. So, nage Establishment’ and the other is that also is there. called 'Invisible Government’. In this Why am I going into all these country we talk about a parallel things? It is because I do not want Government of black money; in their the Minister and the Government, country they talk about an Invisible after giving out all the warnings, to Government’ run by the C.I.A. simply say, oh, we are keeping an There is another work by Mr. Al eye on all intelligence services. I len Dulles — the name is well- don’t think he will reveal anything known, — the brother of the late- very much here, but anyway, I wish lamented Poster Dulles. Allen to say this. Dulles was the original founder and The present Director of the CIA builder of what was formerly known is a gentleman by name Richard as O .S .S __ the Office of Strategic Helms; he earns 30,000 dollars Per Services, which later became the year. They have a huge estate and C.I.A. their headquarters is established at a Hr, Allen Dulles has written a place called Langley in Virginia. veay interesting book called *Craft 15,000 people are employed at the of Intelligence'. It should be read. CIA headquarters. The annual budget of the CIA comes to Rs. 3,000 crores Then, Sir, in 19C8 the same New per year, which is, I think, about 75 York Times (the same paper which per cent of the total Indian Budget. 239 CM activities in w M i u m 240 India (Disc.) On the 21st March, i*M» Mr. Jafik fShri Indrajxt Gupta] Anderson disclosed ihat m Chile, l» There is a very interesting account order to prevent the election of Al- in same 0i these books of the won lende as president in 1970, a left-sup derful sophisticated electronic gaa- ported candidate, the ClA m colla gets, computers and so on used *n that CIA headquarters by which they boration with the International Tele can get information within 5 or 10 phone a n d Traffic Co. had tried to or seconds about any person or any ganise a military coup in Chile; that happening anywhere m the world same ITT which is giving us here and 40 million index cards are main crossbar equipment for our tele tained in the CIA headquarters; that phones in Delhi and other places that is, they have dossiers on 40 million same international monopoly combine personalities, of people m different was hand in glove with the CIA in countries of the world, of different Chile in trying to bring off a milit parties, different affiliations, different a r y coup. professions and so on. Then, the same American sources After the Prime Minister and Mr. reveal that the removal of Presi Shankar Dayal Sharma had come out dent Nkrurnah in Ghana, of Siha with these warnings, we had the nouk in Cambodia in 1454, and of statement o f the Secretary o f States, Mossadeq in Iraq who tried to na Mr. Rogers He had given an assur tionalise the foreign oil companies ance that the CIA activities in India and Guzman in Guatemala in 1954 are not directed against the na were engineered by the CIA. The tional interest of India. It is a very Daily Telegraph of London dated the important sentence. It reveals that 21st January, 1972 h a s made the fol the CIA works in India but that lowing allegations, and you might re their activities are not directed aga fer to that paper. First of all, they inst India’s national interest. have referred to the CIA’s plot be Therefore, very briefly I have to hind Nkrumah’s ouster. They have remind the House of some of their said that in the conflict in Nigeria, in activities, some of the types of acti Biafra, the CIA played an ambiguous- vities which the CIA has been in role, on the one hand supporting Col. dulging in, in other countries of the ojukwu adn on the other helping to world. organise arms supplies to the Biafran leader from Portuguese territories. The Newg week, the well-known T h e y have further alleged about the American paper only recently high CIA's hand in ousting President lighted this. Obote of Uganda and his replacement 'The CIA has been not so se bv the present President Id! Amin, cretly training, equipping and vir and yew know what he is {Shri Vayalar Ravi] ^ like CIA will be active only when the chances come. The chances tcme come to power either through military only when there is some disir*^ or coup or through revolution. dissatisfaction among the pao^l . So, CIA is a product of the second they become active through different world war, formed with the purpose agencies. These' agencies can be of spying and getting their own formed in different ways. Take the information to further the capitalists Ford Foundation. It is influencing, evpanftion of the American economy not only important public men and and also to influence the governments some of the monopoly hoitees and of the under-developed and undeve their mouthpieces, but they are also loped countries, for which purpose influencing our administrative people. their activities have been stepped up For example, in a written answer to in an aggressive manner. They have my question, Government said that not spared our country also. Even 58 houses have been taken on rent in during Shri Jawaharlal Nehru’s time, Delhi, furnished freely and handed this has been discussed all over this over back to the owners. Many r*f country. Shri Jawaharlal Nehru him the owners of those houses are Gov self was compelled to take up this ernment personnel. Some of them issue and as Mr. Gupta pointed out, belong to the defence services. I* we had to send out some American it not alarming? Is it not bribery? spies. Then, the International Press Institute Now the whole thing has taken is financing some institutions in Delhi another angle. When the Prime That is one of the organs of the CJA Minister said that the CIA is very They are operating in different wars. active in this country and people After the call of the Prime Minister must be vigilant, unfortunately a to be vigilant about the CIA, unfor tendency has developed in some tunately, some people have started lriends on the other side and they are saying that it is a ruse for escapism more vigorous than the Americans to on the part of the ruling part>. It is defend the CIA. These monopolists, a real fact Instead of going into the the vested interests and the rightist facts, somebody has challenged that reaction in this country are controlling statement and said: why can’t you the mouthpieces and publicity media issue a white paper on the subject? in this country and these media have I can only laugh at such a suggestion. been misused to ridicule the warning Can we say which way the CIA is given to the people of the country. functioning? No government has One important cartoonist working in done it so far. Even Shri Piloo Mody an important daily published a car cannot do it. Shri piloo Mody may toon showing that a gentleman was say that he is a CIA agent, thinking crying because a horse had bitten people will take the opposite of it. him. And he says, CIA has bitten But the people will only take him to him! This is nothing but ridiculing be very frank. the warning given by the Prime Minister and other leaders. Some MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He is too people have even said that this is only frank to be a CIA agent. meant to blackmail the opposition parties I am sure there is no inten SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: That i* tion to malign any political parties true. Those who demand a white and the warning was meant only to paper, can they point out any single expose how the CIA is active in this country. instance in any country of the issue of a white paper on the working of Then, it is said that because the spies? I do not think that even the economic conditions are degenerating, biggest countries indulging in spying the Government want to save their like the Soviet Union or the USA face. It is true that organisations have presented any white paper [Shri Samar Guha] else, 1 should say, an undefined own. I remember how in those days accusation is nothing tout -either a our leaders were inspired by a sense political trickery or a diversionary •of greatness, historic and geographical, tactic because the whole country •of our great country. Whenever today is in the midst of economic there is any attempt to subvert our crisis. national values, our national heritage, The Congress Government made 'Our democratic institutions, our sense long promises of garibi hatao. But of dignity, our sense of national garths are being nataoed today. It prestige, I can understand and appre is just a matter of political diversion. ciate objection being taken by the They want to create some kind of a members of this House belonging to ghost of the proverbial wolf to this country, being the representatives divert the attention of the people ■ of the people of this country, without from the real problems, the problems making any distinction whatsoever of hunger, the problems of starva [Shri Samar Guha] I want to draw your attention very specifically to the recent Assitft data. sites. Sometimes, clever people, wften Most jof the ianpojrtaat Otmgm* ever there is a social function and leaders accused CIA. hands in it. But when their shoe pinches, they take it Mr. B. K. Nehru tried to deny that. In a lighter mood either by cutting (Interruption). It has been admitted jokes or making a laughter. even by the Assam leaders that there AN HON. MEMBER: Give some was really no mass uprising of &e mal-mawla. Assamese people against the Bengali People. Certain sections of people SHRI SAMAR GUHA: As I have were picked up, certain newspapers said, mal-masala is everywhere. (In were picked up.... (Interruption). terruption). He wants some materials. Like military operation there were Material are everywhere. There are truckloads coming from 100 and 200 millions of booklets, periodicals and miles away. In those truck-loads journals printed and published by 80 per cent of the people were either political parties’ presses* I had asked those who were pro-Pakistanis at the a Question—it is on record—about the time of liberation of Bangladesh or printing presses owned by political those who escaped from Bangladesh parties in India for foreign embassies. out of fear of trial for espionage or They earn millions. Those political national betrayal. parties who print materials of foreign embassies and get millions are not AN HON. MEMBER: Razakars? touched. They are Brahma.’ SHRI SAMAR GUHA: They are MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You have caled Razakars. (Interruptxon) I have already taken about 26 minutes. so many documents. Will Govern SHRI SAMAR GUHA: No, Sir. ment institute inquiries into them? I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER You start can give you some photostat copies led at 3.41 and now it is 4.07 p.m. also—so much of intriguing news in different papers. I was very Please try to conclude. shocked the other day when Prime S$iRl SAMAR GUHA: This Govern, Minister was sitting by the side of tnent had assured us in the last Lok that gentleman, Mr. Mohsin, when he Sabha that they would bring a Bill to was making the statement that the curb influence of foreign embassies events in Assam had been exaggerated. and also foreign money in this House. (Interruption) If you really want to What has happened to that? I want to pinpoint what happened there, there deal with the whole problem basically were foreign agents who were and not accusing this country or that working horribly, who were playing country. In fact^ we should accuse havoc in Assam language riots. It ourselves. Whey did Government al calls for immediate CBI investigation, low infllteration of foreign influence? if not a judicial inquiry. Why did they allow development of political parasitism in our country? I I will conclude by saying that there want to know this from the hon. should be a code of conduct and there Minister. What has happened to that should also be a Bill, which should be assurance which was given hare in brought immediately, restricting cir the last Lok Sabha that a BUI will be culation of imported books from brought? What has happened to that foreign countries, restricting circula assurance which was given that a code tion of cheap and trash propoganada eg conduct would be drawn up for our literature—and not fundamental books Journalists, for our politicians, for our on ideological polemics. Journalists MLAs MPs and for the social and and others getting padcets—gifts ^and cultural organisations sponsored by donations—from foreign embassies different embassies and of which we should be stopped. No political party are having a mushroom growth all press should be allowed “to print asft ever the country? ^ publish any material from any foreign 261 CIA activity AGRABAYANA 21, 1804 (Saka) in India (Disc.) 262 embassy. No press or journals, with Piloo Mody, to ridicule the statement out the approval of the Press Council of the Prime Minister. . should publish any material from any foreign embassy. No papers should be SHRI PILOO MODY: The Prime allowed to publish unchecked matter Minister herself. from embassies. What a shame it was, SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: Let us look there were two or three pages on as to how the entire session started. Korea in all the big papers. (Inter* Mr. Piloo Mody appeared before the motion) What has happened to this House with a badge—‘I am a CIA country, I do not know. agent’ . . . I conclude by saying that, if this SHRI PILOO MODY: I still have it. Government wants to function as a free country, as a dignified country, SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: May be with, with a patriotic sense, with the sense out any sense of shame, maybe in a of democratic values and the sense mood of confession and maybe it is that ours Is a great country, we should another tactic for a Member of Par not allow ourselves to be influenced liament, for a leader of a Party, to by any foreign influence. The Bill come to the sovengn body of this that was premised to be brought in country and display a badge saying, this House to curb foreign influence in *1 am a CIA agent’ to the ga 2e of the the Indian politics, Indian life, has to entire world and to the gaze of the be brought immediately, and a code of country, it is a tattic whereby he could conduct, not only for MPg and MLAs put morale into those persons who but also faT teachers, journalists and want to be available to the CIA ope all others who have dealings with rations. Mr. Piloo Mody has done it foreign embassies, has to be drawn in the Parliament of India. ‘Nobody up. has touched me. Therefore, nobody need be bothered about it and he may SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Muvattu- carry on’. That is one way of doing puzha): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, we it. Even as an act of ridicule if one are discussing today a subject of vital may concede it, even as a demonstra concern to the security of this nation tion of buffoonery if one may take it and to the political independence of that way, even if all this is conceded, our country. Looking at the entire could anybody conceive of a person, picture of reactions to certain com a citizen of a country, coming out, ments made by our Prime Minister even in a jocular mood, and saying and the Congress President about CIA out, 'Here I am. I am an agent of activities, I feel like congratulating CIA', i.e. the Central Intelligence the CIA for the thoroughness with Agency which is a foreign agency ope which they have been doing the work. rating here, coming out and saying 'I It is very unusual that when the Prime am pn agent*? Minister of a country has pointed her Anger at certain activities of a foreign When I heard the speech of Mr. agency and has Warned her country Samar Guha—he has left the House— men that a particular foreign agency I was wondering who exactly was has stepped up its activities in this speaking here. I was looking back country, the reaction in certain sec to see whether a votary ot CIA has tions, is not one of anxiety that these come into the Parliament and has activities are proceeding but is one of started defending the CIA. an attempt to . . . Why should people get agitated SHRI PILOO MODY; Ridicule the about it? Let us look at it objectively. Prime Minister. Is it denied that there iB something like the CIA? Is it denied that CIA m m c M. STEPHEN: . . .defend is operating in different countries? the CIA and tShri C. M. Stephen] recently stepped up its activities in able, at least in Guatemala and India. It is not a new development in Cuba . . . India «Jt all. The CIA has been there. 'Hie warning is that the CIA has step SHRI PILOO MODY: No. ped up its activities. Why? The Warn SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: Is it denied ing is to the people of this country that the CIA operated and brought who may fall a prey, unsuspectingly about the disaster of the Bay of Pigs? or otherwise, to the operations of the But nobody denies it. CIA. When that warning is made by the Prime Minister, one should expect SHRI PILOO MODY: Nobody de of every citizen of this country to an nies. xiously look for some material, to SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: Now, even anxiously put oneself on the guard the CIA does not deny that in their and on the defence so that he may not design of operations they transgressed fall a prey to that sort of operations. the limits of colection of intelligence That reaction there was, of the vast but go on to some other limits. Even multitude of the people of his country the CIA does not deny it. That is and the huge majority of the people their method of operations. I have of this country. But, stranegly, certain get before me a statement given before people, in certain quarters, took up a a US Senate 'Committee spelling out different attitude and came out say how the CIA is operating. They state ing that the CIA is not operating. This that there are two types of recruits is outheroding. Herod, I mean more for them. One type of recruits are loyal than the King himself. They persons whose job it is to collect intel came out with a statement that the ligence. The other type of recruits are CIA is not operating and ‘Where is the persons who are trained up or who are evidence?’ Would any Government well-versed in certain types of skills come out with evidence that way? and who can get to the vulnerable Would any intelligent intelligence points. These are the two types of agency operating in any country give recruits and now the CIA is a prob at the evidence they have collected? lem even for the Administration of the When the Prime Minister says that, the United States. The CIA reports direct people of the country know enough ly to the President. The CIA is a to understand that there must be part of the National Security Service. material which has induced the Prime The CIA is answerable to the President Minister to give that warning. Those through the National Security Council. persons who demand, ‘Come out with The CIA is part of their entire na the material’ are persons who want to tional defence scheme and for that defend their activities and put this purpose, they operate not merely for warning in a question mark. collecting intelligence but for other nurposes also. If that is conceded Therefore, I would submit that but to which, I am afraid, are blind those persons who make these pleas the extra-vocal and extra-zealous are the persons who must be consider defendants of CIA in India but which ed as really suspect That is all I is conceded even in America, when have got to say about it. Otherwise, once it is conceded, then we proceed their reactions put them in a suspi to a stage where we have got to look cious cadre and the Government has at it not to see whether the CIA is got to be suspicious about it. That is operationing but to see whether the all I have got to say about it. CIA is not operating. That is the way we have to look at it—Whether the Another plea which has come out— CIA is not operating here. That is the my friend, Mr. Vayalar Ravi, has re way we have got to look at it and the ferred to it—is that the problems are Prime Minister of India, a very mounting up and here is an effort responsible leader, comes out **de to divert the attention of the wiU* a mild warning that the CIA has people from those prtrtftentt. k tfdW CIA activities AGRAHAYANA 31, 1894 (Safco) in India (Disc,) 2t 6 warning about it. Is it an effort to as far as I am concerned. Whenever divert it and can it possibly divert it? this country was in a crisis, that coun Can the warning divert the attention try came to the aid of this country. of anybody from the other problems Whenever a problem came up, that which are really there? Nobody can country came up to support us and he so foolhardy a$ to expect that by whoever mpy or may not accept it, giving that warning, the attention of things have come up in such a the people of this country can be diver manner in the course of the last 25 ted away from the other vital issues of years, that the people of this country the country. are looking at Soviet Russia as a real friend of this country. There Now I do not lay any blame on fore, when they are operating, when anybody. A question is asked: What they are collecting intelligence, we about other agencies operating here? do not suspect them—not that no It is understood, it is well-known that body is looking at them. As Mr. every country has got its own intelli Indrajit Gupta said, they may be gence services. Every Embassy in kept under surveillance. Govern every country hag got its own intelli ment must look as to whether they gence services. That is one of their are operating wrongly or correctly. jobs—collecting information. Nobody But 1 would submit. Sir, Soviet quarrel with that. But they quarrel Russia is not regarded as an enemy comes in only when you proceed of this country. I am not saying, from thft sphere of collection America is an enemy of this country, of information to the stage of assu but let it not be denied, and let it not ming the character of an operational be attempted to be denied also that agency. Intelligence collecting as between the two countries, Soviet agency you can be, operational agency Russia has been to our aid whenever you cannot be. You cannot pump the aid was needed and it is a friend out money to purchase the loyalties ly country. A friend is coming to of the people. You cannot pump out my house and an enemy is coming money to create cells in other coun to my house. My welcome to my tries to operate against those gov- friend will be different from the way evemments. You cannot pump out I welcome the enemy. There is abso money for the purpose of subverting lutely no doubt about it. Is there the structure in a particular country. any evidence to show that subversion When two egencies are operating, one is being attempted by the KGB? Is agency with a particular background, there any attempt to show that such well-known and the other agency or and such a thing has been happening the other agencies, not having that anywhere? No evidence has been sort background, people will judge forthcoming. Defenders of the other these agencies with their respective faith may carry on their campaign. backgrounds. . . (Interruptions) j do That is all that I can say. not want to name any agency at all. There are different agencies in the All that has happened here is this. country. Not only America, not only The Prime Minister, who also hap Britain, not only Russia, not only pens to be the Home Minister of this China or any country—*we are look- country, has given a warning, on the ink at their operation against the basis of whatever information we background of their past and we make have got, to this country saying that our own judgment about it My certain things are taking place from friend, Mar. Piloo Mody, pin-pointed certain quarters about which the KGB and all that. 1 do not know people of the country should be what it is. If it is Soviet Russia that aware of. It is no condemnation, but he means, I, for one, do not want to a warning, it is an indication to the be apologetic at all about it. Soviet people to beware of it. I would Russia has got a particular relation appeal to everybody even Mr. Piloo ship with this country. 2 concede it Mody, conceding that the buffoonery* 267 CM activities DECEMBER 12, 1072 in Ifldia [Shri C. M. Stephen] Sir, this CIA is one of fee greatert he displayed is nothing snore than menaces to humanity and, democracy a buffoonery, nor really the agency and socialism, President Truman has of the Central Intelligence Agency— done the greatest disservice by start I would appeal to everybody," Sir, to ing this CIA which is really a VS take note of that warning and to Government organisation. The object guard ourselves of the dangers that of the CIA is to moke room for Unit are taking; place m other countries ed State’s neo-colonialism and eco and that we do not allow these things nomic domination all over the world. to operate under cover or open. That We have seen what they did in res is the value of that warning Let no pect of Mosudeq, Indonesia, Belgian attempt be made to ridicule. Let Congo, Cuba, Vietnam and Pueblo note be taken of it and if I may say m North Korea; andf Chile at the so, let serious note be taken of it It present moment. has been taken note of by*parties that count even in America. Jack Anderson released a set of purported documents indicating that When this announcement came I a huge international telephone and happened to be in New York, attend telegraph conglomerate had manoe ing" the United Nations. I know about uvred possibly with some connivance the reaction to this announcement. of US officials to try to block the One announcement was televised and 1970 election of March. It refers to people took senous note of it. I President Salvador of Chile. Through thought that is enough of a warning evidence, high level Government to the CIA. People came to know complicity was cited. about its operations in this country. X am appealing to persons like Mr. In our Consultative Committee there Samar Guha and Mr. Piloo Mody is a reply given by Mr. Chavan when and others. Do not rush out to their he was Home Minister I wish to aid but be firm with the leadership refer to that He said that they are of this country so that CIA opera also aware and conscious of the fact tions may be kept under restraint and that there has been widespread con under check. These are all what I cern about the receipt of money from wish to submit. foreign agencies and organisations by individuals and organisations whe The Prime Minister has done a ther working in the political or social signal service to this country iby her or economic fields. We are much timely warning. Whoever has attem concerned because it is crushing de pted. to ridicule it has done an act of mocratic and progressive movements unpatriotism, an act of service to We are the targets. We have suffer some other country which is most ed in their hands. They are always condemnable. With these words I at us Can the ruling party say they conclude. have suffered as we have suffered in the hands of the CIA? No, Sir. I SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia- shall prove this giving examples one Harbour); We are sorry to see that after the other. Otherwise, Sir. can Mr. Indrajit Gupta's Private Member you imagine why this 1987-08 Intelli Resolution which was in the form of gence Bureau Inquiry Report was a definite motion and which could not made public? Is it because it have been voted on the floor of the will expose all maimer of persons House was pushed out because the belonging to the ruling party and in ruling party did not help them to the official hierarchy and official ma table a Motion and something else chinery? The situation is very seri has been brought in and we had to ous. come today under Rule 198 just to talk it over. It is a great pity. It I now wish to refer to a*feell-cir» should go on record. ciliated Daily. It says: 'Assam: *69 CIA activities AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (Safca) in India (Disc,) 270 Hunting-ground for CIA’. It refers —Hawai, —what a lovely place to to Mr. Sinha, Chief Minister. It says go! ‘Foreign Intelligence agents active in Then, Sir, it also says that the CIA Eastern India since fifties.’ The news thorough the Asia Foundation hat from London about Us diplomatic financed the Labour Education Ser offensive is to the effect that CIA has vice camps for undertaking publica been active in the eastern zone. It tion of the history of strikes. Sir, ha« also been not new, it is there the positive American involvement in from time immemorial when we Indian agriculture is also a sore point, came to power, and had been cons including senior agricultural officials, tantly active and they have including quite a few of the Ministry been constantly moving and doing of Food and Agriculture. One of the these things. Mr. Chavan in reply to former secretaries and now a Gover a question had stated that they were nor of a State is also there. Their operating from 4 centres in Inida, domination is total and we must de namely, Patna, Bangalore and there limit the influence of these top offi are two others. Wherever there is cials. I can quote several other things any United States Government official, to prove that they have made a there is a CIA man there. There is deeper and deeper in road into our no doubt about that. Their penetra country. tion is very deep and wide amongst political persons, Ministers, adminis I would now like to quote from the trators, defence, police, press and book ‘Ambassador's Journal’ of John radio. Sir, even the Naxalite move Keeneth Galbraith, former US Am ment is affected. Those who are in bassador to India. At page 163, he Congress have been left. Others are says: there. It has affected authors, film “One of the undisclosed pleasures producers, religious institutions, reli of this job that I have at my dis gious cults, social service people like posal is that at least at my disposal „ peace corps etc, and a new vaviety there is 10,000 dollars to spend at of foreign missions. Sir, we know my discretion for charitable relief there have been some very old ones, purposes which is replaced once I doing some very different, jobs. But have spent it, a kind of self re this new thing is there now. filling financial spring.” Then, he says at page 163: I now wish to quote from the “July 20—Madras: Times of India supplement of Octo ber 29, 1072/ It says; Yesterday was only slightly less long than that of the Last Judg The CIA has stepped up its acti ment. At a little after eight, I vities in India through its verious visited the Consulate which occu pies a couple of dingy floors of a fronts. The manipulation of vast left-type building which are paint PL 480 funds primarily to further ed a repulsive green. The American American interests and the Nixon administration’s anti-Indian tilt dur officers occupy offices around the edge of a bull-pen; the Indian staff ing the Indo Pakistan war last December.. are in the pen. One office is occu pied by our intelligence staff Then it says: whose coming and going is observ ed with much interest by all. “The USEFI is one of the 48 orga When the chief CIA man was re nisations around the world admi placed a few months back, a local nistering US Govt, scholarships and Indian police officer commented those of the Institute of Interna amiably in public on the change tional Education and the East-West to the Consul-General the same 'Centre for Study in the University day (“I hear you are getting a of Hawat” new chief spy”.) 271 CM activities DECEMBER 12, 1972 in India (Disc.) [Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu] ture Minister C. Subramaniam, the* I'hen, I come to page 453, where then Food Secretary ___** he says: —now, Governor— “We bad an Indication that something important was in the “....M r. Diaz.” (The words *now making when, about five, Barry Governor' are my insertions). Zorthian had tea with E. N. Karan- jia, the editor of Blitz, Karanjia In 1988, the Washington Post said: told Zorthian that their next edi “In Kerala, when the UF Govern tion would signal a major change ment was led by E. M. S. Namboodi- in policy—a strong pro-US line, ripad, one Minister here wanted great praise for Kennedy and Gal Bs. 3 50 lakhs (50,000 dollars) for braith. The CIA, one gathers, will effortmg to break up the commu henceforth be the spearhead of nist-led UF Government there.", 'American Indian friendship.”. Now, I shall quote from another Then, at page 479, he says: very valuahle document, which is an “The, Pete Lakeland of my poli Indian School of Social Sciences Pub tical staff brought over an elderly lication, which says: Congress leader for a long discus “There have been widespread sion of Congress Party policy in whispers that the student demon light of the war. Like everyone else, he told they were busy recon stration in Madras last year against sidering the non-alignment policy. cartographic aggression on the Sino- As to everyone else, I told him that Indian borders was planned in de we might find alignment with India tail and financed by the USIS ...... too expensive.". Or can the Government of India Then, I go on to page 546, where deny that five senior USIS officers, lie says: including the Regional, Director and the Information Officer, went to “February 18—New Delhi. Visakhapatnam in December, 1970 under the thin pretext of supervis During the morning, I had a ses ing the moon rock exhibition orga sion with a group of men who are nised there? Or that in Vizag, where here at the Indians' request to ad one of the biggest naval bases is vise the Indian Army on the tech situated, they made fruitful con niques of special warfare. These tacts of which the Government t>f are the informal, but not secret, tac India is aware?”. tics for dealing with unconventional enemies in an unconventional way. Then, it says: It naturally attracts adventurers and boundary of various sorts. “Another educational front for the American Government is the I gave them a firm lecture on the US Educational Foundation in India need for the utnjost tact, restraint (USEFI), which is very active i» and diplomacy. I said they should Madras. USEFI is directly under the prove to the Indian Government Department of State It is responsi that its well-justified suspicions of ble for doling out Fulbright scholar them are somehow erroneous.”. ships and other prizes to Indians considered useful enough to be in Then, this book Johnson's Memoirs doctrinated. named about people who were in the US Lobby. It says: Then, it says: “Certain responsible persons in ‘There is hardly one major or Government of India had been important educational institution in working to further the cause this City which has no links with of US—the then Food and Agricul American money. Links Tange from *73 CJA activities AGRAHAYANA 21* 1894 ( Saka) in India (Disc.) 274 massive financial support in the ment (a) for its own use in India form of books, equipment, training and (b) for giving loans to Joint personnel, techniques etc. During Indo-US enterprises commonly the last year for which accounts are known as Cooley loans’. available, 1069-70, the University of Madras alone got charity worth And what is this Cooley loan? It has Rs. 1,55,384 from PL-480 funds and financed to the tune of Rs. 70 crores Rs. 78,337 from the US Department big companies like Otis Elevator Co. of Health.". India (Pvt.) Ltd., Goodyear India Ltd., the Synthetics and Chemicals Further, it says: Ltd., Hindustan Aluminium Corpora “The links between the CIA and tion Ltd., and so on. They are acting organisations like the Asia Founda on behalf of the American organisa tions are no secret. This notorious tion and they are financing the CIA front was exposed in 1966-67.”. activities here. I would not go into more details The CIA is also affiliated to the US about this, because it is well known. Foundation set-up in India. Mr. At least, I have information that CIA Chagla had said this, when he was finances steadily, regularly and perpe Foreign Minister of India. All the US tually aid eight political parties in foundation set in India in the name the country. r i " - of cultural, educational and other ac tivities; (2) the International Confe Then, I come to the question of eco deration of Free Trade Unions, (3) nomic subversion by the CIA. If you the International Youth Centre, (4) see the pamphlet entitled External the National Students’ Press Council Assistance, 1968-69 and 1969-70. at of India, (5) The World Assembly of page 123 we find that: Youth, (6) The Asia Foundation, (7) The Press Institute of India, (8) The “India has entered into 14 agree Institute of Mass Communication Re ments with the US Government search and such other bodies were under PL-480 from 1966 to 31-3- working in India. 1969. Subsequently, two agree ments were signed during 1969-70, MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, the hon. thus totalling 16 agreements to end Member should try to conclude. He of March, 1970/'. has already taken about 15 minutes. The total amount involved is SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Shri Rs. 22708.3 million, which is the Samar Guha who leads party of just rupee equivalent. three Members had taken 30 minutes. At that rate, I should be entitled to We further find there: take about eight times that time, because I belong to a party of 25 Members here, “Hie rupee equivalent of the dol lar cost of the commodities import SHRI G. VISHWANATHAN (Wan- ed is deposited in the US Govern diwash): It would mean four hours ment account in the Reserve Bank according to that calculation. of India, New Delhi. A major por tion of the rupee deposits (about 80 Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu: I shall be per cent in the aggregate) has been satisfied with three hours. earmarked in the agreements for being given as loans and grants to MR. CHAIRMAN: He was entitled the Government of India for financ to only seven minutes, but I have ing mutually agreed projects of eco given him already 15 minutes. nomic development. The balance SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You of 20 per cent has been earmarked have always been very generous. But to be retained by the US Govern I shall take another 15 minutes. 275 CIA activities, DECEMBER 12, 1972 in India (Disc.) fShrf Jyotirmoy Bosu;} do they want to shelter somebody As for infiltration in education, the and so action was dropped because of Delhi University, lor example, got 8 pressure from the top? They also go million dollars directly from the Ford for religious institutions and they Foundation, not through the Ministry. create things like Mahesh Vagi, An That was later on regularised. anda Marg and Balyogeswar, they created sadhu riots, They go for eco SHRI PILOO MODY: So, all the nomic subversion also. In Bokaro children going to the Delhi University they organised sabotage and attempt ttre CIA agents. ed to commission a blast furnace pre maturely to damage it. They almost SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The De succeeded in doing that in Bhilai. partm ent of Chinese Studies (Hong What happened. I do not want to kong type) started with money from name the person, he is a professional the U.S. Even scholarships are inclu man and was an ex-employee of the ded for that purpose. May I ask Shri TCM, he was a CIA outfit. In Barau- K. C. Pant one question here9 Is it ni a 50 MW turbine was damaged by true that the present pro-Vice-chan- the insertion of foreign matter and cellor, a Member of Parliament, once the rotor got damaged. In Patratu heed of the Department of Chinese oil circulation was damaged by cot Studies, is regularly writing for the ton waste ( Interruptions) I have Pentagon paper on 'On Problem of heard Shri Indrajit Gupta talking ’Communism’ Once, the Delhi Uni about Defence Secretary I know the versity affairs were controlled by a Defence Secretary who has been man called Gilpathic of the CIA. The shifted to another Ministry. He is Delhi University Law Faculty was not inactive there also (interrup greatly controlled by the CIA and tions) I know of a Home Secretary worked against the authority of the and while having a talk with the Min Academic Council. The Head of the ister I said that so and so was close Department had direct contact with to the Yankees, how do you expect the CIA. In the Delhi School of Eco him to control them and he replied: nomics, there is no difference. I do you are mistaken, not the person but not know how many professors of his wife. I said: very good, I have the Delhi School of Economics have learnt it. I ask of this love-song or gone to the United States. We want love-call from America; why was Mr. to know these details also. Billy Graham allowed to go to sensi tive areas like Nagaland? Who hosted So far as the press is concerned, let him9 The Baptist Mission. The hon. me give a concrete case. The Ananda Prime Minister admitted the other Bazar Patrika paper is a monument ^of day in the Consultative Committee ‘CIA activities in the country, and one that the Baptist Mission w$s connect of the directors was caught red-hand- ed with CIA; it is a surrender to ed sending crepe during the Indo- Nixon. We remember that there was Pakistan war to Hongkong and other direct collaboration in 1959 with countries; he was caught sending Vimochan Samaram when Mrs. Indira crepe. Yet, 'because pressure came Gandhi was the Congress President. from Shri K. C. Pant’s Ministry, after A cheque from the United States Con four hours''interrelation at the police sul General in Madras, Mr. Franglin headquarters at Lai Bazar, he was let went to Mr. R. Shankar, the then Con go. The Defence of India Rules clear gress President, later on the Chief ly say that for sending crepe without Minister. The Bed Cross cheque was getting it through the censors means intercepted while in transit Most five years' imprisonment. unfortunately, I have here a piece of news item which has men But here is a case, how this ruling tioned the name of Mr. Raj Bahadur party wanted to deal with the CIA. and says he secured CIA funds, it In the case of Ananda Bazar Patrika, is here; X only wish that Shri Raj a 77 CIA a c tiv e * AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (Saka) in India (Disc.) 27S Safa»dur contradicts it, I shall read cers were sent to America for train it out: ing in intelligence? We want to know figures here and now. The most seri "Jaipur: A Jan Sangh Member ous of the thing—Mr. Pant should of the Rajasthan Assembly, Mano- hear me—does he knew that US B-52 harlal Gupta has said that the Union planes were allowed to use secretly Minister for Shipping and Parlia Indian airports for doing photographic mentary Affairs, Shri Raj Bahadur, flights over China? I do not want to had secured Rs. 40,000 from CIA to give the names of these airports be contest the 1967 general elections cause it is a secret matter. I am ask through ___(a gentleman), ing this Government: what sort of working arrangements are still con Shri Gupta who belongs to the tinuing with the CIA or the American home district of the Union Minis Government? Because, there is an ter, Bharatpur, Rajasthan, challeng electronic eye on China border, under ed Shri Raj Bahadur that if he a contract with Dynamics Corpora could prove his assertion wrong, he tion, which was previously handled would resign from the Assembly, by the CIA for surveillance in China or else the Union Minister should border in her military command. We quit the Cabinet.” want to know how close you are in this collaboration matter. I want to I want to lay it on the Table of the say: it is no use yelling from roof House— ( Interruptions). tops because you want to use it poli tically for your own purpose. You talk about the student unrest in Pun THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE jab. The Prime Minister said that MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS the Government have definite infor (Shri K. C. Pant): May I only under mation about CIA activities. She said stand whether it is for the person that the student unrest had been en who makes the charge to prove it gineered by CIA but Mr. Mohsin says right or for the person against whom that there is no specific information the charge is made to prove it wrong? of the involvement of foreign ele Whose obligation is it ments in these incidents; here are the questions and here are his replies. I SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: He only want to say: you prove that your should contradict it. Government is a disfavoured Govern ment of the CIA; you publish a white SHRI PILOO MODY: According to paper. I repeat once again: You and the Prime Minister, a person against your Prime Minister prove that you whom a charge has been made has to are a disfavoured Government by the prove it never happened ...... (Inter CIA; you publish a white paper if ruptions)i. you are worth the salt. MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Satpal SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: From Kapur ...... (Interruptions). Kerala Vimochan Samaram Franklin ran away but he was allowed to come THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN back as a research fellow. I shall TARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING now come to the working arrange AND TRANSPORT: (Shri Raj Baha ment with the CIA, Is it not a fact dur): Through whom? Will vou that the training of Indian intelli please read the name? I have got the gence for spectrum study over South right of personal explanation— (In China and Tibet was organised by the terruptions) . Let him read out the CIA? Is it also not a fact that border name of the person through whom I security officers were sent to South have been charged of receiving mo Vietnam lor training under the US ney. arrangements, that is, CIA in guerilla tactics. Is it not a fact that many offi MR. CHAIRMAN: Order, order. 279 CIA activities DECEMBER <12, 1972 in India (Disc.) *£©• SHRI PILOO MODY: I wholly dis SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: If Mr. Piloo approve of this procedure. It is no Mody believes in that, 1 challenge where in the rules that Mr, Raj Baha him also. dur can get uo w henever he Ukes and start making noise in this House. SHRI PILOO MODY: Let him go either to Asia 1972 or the Gemini Cir SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: A challenge cus to challenge the wrestler over has been thrown at me and I have a there. What is this business of chal right of reply lenging in Parliament? I am talking about procedure and he says: 1 chal SHRI PILOO MODY: I should like lenge you. I am raising a point of to finish my submission. order regarding the procedure that has been followed. SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: I am not yielding; it has to be contradicted MR. CHAIRMAN: With the permis here and now. He must first read sion of the Chair, he made that sub out the name of the person through mission I allowed him whom ...... (Interruptions) Is it a paper report? Let him read out the SHRI PILOO MODY: I only *ant name if he has got any name? that to go on record. MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit down; SHRI M RAM GOPAL REDDY there is no question of challenge here. (Nizamabad) ■ Sir, the Prime Minis He has already made a speech; you ter of our country has* admimstu ed can go through the proceedings. a warning to the people and also to all parties that we should not fall a SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: There is prey to CIA activities and we thought no question of ---- (Interruptions) . there will be an end to it. But the MR. CHAIRMAN: I cannot ask him CPI leader Mr. Indrajit Gupta has to repeat his speech for your benefit; brought a motion here. Of course, we you can gather information from the are free to express our own views. report and then you can contradict But Mr. Gupta said that there are this. some CIA agents in our officialdom. I want to protest against it The offi SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: I throw a cers have as much self-respect as we challenge to my friend if he can prove have, if not more and we should not it If he can prove it I shall resign; cast aspersions on them day in and otherwise he should resign. I chal day out. We should not suspect our lenge. It is absolutely concocted, own officers. cock-and-bull story. If he is correct, let Mr. Bosu prove it and I shall re SHRI PILOO MODY: You only sign; otherwise he shall resign. Let suspect the opposition parties. him prove it..,. (Interruptions). - 16.37 hrs. SHRI PILOO MODY: On a point of order. My point of order is that [Shri N. K. P. S a lv e in the Chair ] the procedure had been violated. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: We SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: Mr. S. K. do not suspect Mr. Piloo Mody. He Patil has ibeen attributed; it is alleg is so frank and does not hide, his mo ed that he collected from CIA and tives. The other day he entered the gave it to me. Let an enquiry be House with a label on his chest That made from Mr. S. K. Patil. is ample testimony that we should SHRI PILOO MODY: If anything not distrust him. What he has exhi has been said which entitles Mr. Raj bited is enough for the House and for Bahadur to make a pergonal explana the country to understand him and tion, he should be allowed to do so. his part* * 8l CIA activity* AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (Saka) in India (Disc.) 282 'So me people are making out as if which 30 per cent are Ph.D., lin the CIA activities are goihg to ruin guists, economists, cartographers, this country. That is a false idea. psychiatrists, agronomists, chemists, s This country has had several on- anthropologists and geographers. slaughts tor centuries. There were at These experts profess to know tacks from Nadir Shah, Aurangazeb everything starting from the prob and so many others who wanted to lem of Nagas and the health of Ko destroy our culture. But they failed sygin to the bed-room exploits of and India is now a strong nation Soekamo. under the leadership of our Prime Minister. SHRI PILOO MODY; What about SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; On * the bed-room exploits in India? point of order, Sir. You are very par ticular about relevance of speeches. SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: Re garding their activities in India, the SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: Congress President, Shri Shankar From 1947 to 1952, the communists Dayal Sharma, fired the first shot. attacked the masses in the villages He said that the CIA is subverting with all sorts of weapons. Even then the Indo-Bangladesh relations, and they could not win the people of this they are the reasons for all the re country. The people are stronger cent troubles. Immediately, the than any political ideology. Tha peo Prime Minister confirmed this state ple are patriotic and are not unduly ment by saying: afraid of either the CIA or the KGB. Some people have made it a habit to “CIA had become active m go on abusing America day in and India. It is not for us to prove that day out. this agency is working in our 17 hts. country. It is for the CIA to prove that it is not active in India.” Our Prime Minister has adminis tered a warning to the people of this This statement came when the poor country to be aware of the sinister ac Finance Minister, Shri Chavan, was tivities of CIA and other foreign having negotiations in Washington, agents. That is enough for our coun and he had to bear all the embarrass try to be careful and to guard our ment. interests. The opposition want to Close on the heel of this came the make capital out of the Prime Mi statements of the Congress Chief nister’s statement, which is not cor Ministers about the CIA activities, as rect. The warning of the Prime if to show their unstinted support to Minister is quite sufficient. their leader. Statements were issued SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: Sir, it by Shrimati Nandini Satpathy, Shri is good that we have got an oppor Sarat Chandra Sinha, Shri Zail tunity to discuss the danger of grow Singh who accused of CIA-Akali col ing CIA activities in this country. No lusion and Shri Mir Quasim. Except body denies, and no body can Shri V. P. Nailc and Shri Tripathi, deny that CIA is acting not all the State Chief Ministers came only in this country but it is out with the statement about the operating all over the world. It is a CIA activities. secret seeker of knowledge in the I want to know the reason for this demi-warld of international espio sudden spurt. What happened all nage. We know that espionage is a these years? Were they not aware fact of diplomatic life" in the modem that the CIA is operating in this world. country? Not only that, the Union According to reports, tfce strength Home Secretary also gave a state of the CIA fs more than 16,000 out of ment that it is operating actively in CIA activities DECEMBER 12, 1972 in India (Disc.) 284 283 ed Mr. Swaran Singh that C.I.A* [Shri G. Viswanathan.] activities were not in any way the eastern region. This is the con trimental to the interests Of India. tribution of Congress. Now it is for the Government to * 0- cept the statement or not to accept it* Then I come to the Jan Sangh, which has made its own contribu It is not only the C .I.A . whjfifc i* tion. The Jan Sangh leader in the of U .S. origin but there are other Council said that CIA is very agencies also which are working in active in Chottanagpur area. Another this country and which cannot be Jan Sangh MLA from Rajasthan said denied. I would like to quote Mr. that the Union Minister. Shri Raj Yuri Krotkov who was a former Bahadur, has received money from agent of K. G. B., a Russian agency. the CIA during the 1967 elections . He gave a statement before the tX.S. (interruptions) Senate Sub-Committee on interna SHRI RAJ BAHADUR- Let them tional security m which he confirm make that statement outside the ed that when he was assigned a job House... ( interruptions) in Moscow, he tried to befriend an Indian foreign official but he found SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: This that he was too clever and he could charge wag made by an M L.A. of not do espionage on him. It is how Rajasthan belonging to the Jan other foreign countries are interested Sangh almost a year back. in the third world because that is Then, I would like to quote Pra- not do espionage on him. It is how vada, which says: the East or the West. Hence, the agents are working to control the "In the past; the Swatantra third world into their orbit. Party was looked upon as the chief pro-Western, pro-American The activities of foreign intelli lobby. But lately CIA is paying gence, whether it is CIA or KGB, special attention to the relatively should be neither over-estimated nor better organised and more mas sive Jana Sangh.*’ under-estimated. It should be put in a correct perspective. It should not This is what the Soviet paper Pra- be made a political problem or a vada has written. political issue because this really concerns the national security of the Then, Jack Anderson’s papers did country. implicate one or two Union Cabinet Ministers with C.I.A. In this connection, I would like ft> We are not worried about any quote Mr. G. L. Mehta who was our former Ambassador to US.A., I agency. But if the espionage crosses quote; the boundary-line, from intelligence evaluation to actual interference with the country’s affairs, then se “Since it has now been found rious action must be taken. Not that that the CIA is responsible for a mere statement should be given by murders in Delhi suburbs, food the Prime Minister or by the Chief riots, demonstration by both leftist Minister. Serious action should be and rightist organisations, student tajfccn immediately against espionage, unrest, drought in many State* whether it belongs to East or West. and floods in, Orissa, It is only a question of time before we discover When Mr. Swaran Singh, the Ex that Chou-En-Lai has bean its se~ ternal Affairs Minister, visited very cret agent and Mr. Brezhnev 1a recently U.S.A. the U.S. Secretary feeing financed by American fto- of State, Mr Rogers, it seems, assur perialists.** 285 ~ CIA activities AGRAHAYANA 21, 1894 (Saka) in India (Disc.) 286* I wo uld like to keep it before the I; Alfa f*TW ^ $ 5 % 3TR5T Bouse lor whatever worth it to. it is for the House to judge. sJti? TTRff «pt t e w T t errcc f a * rcsffr *tt X have heard my hon. friend, Mr. ftT«f!TT^T| 1" Stephen and »y other esteemed col leagues. I will not be lulled by this q v m H r : • foolish distinction of having a friend ly spy and an inimical spy. A spy is «fv wfw fR J : a spy, whoever he may be. In the international affairs, there are nei ther permanent friends nor perma If to Tfr f ssrsfar ^ srsfr Shit *rn?r nent foes. There are only permanent q^r fa# | ^ ssnfor sre* interests. For Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai, we have had to pay through our s ftftf? , %rm i f & n ^ 1 1 nose heavily during 1962. I want the Government to learn from its past "^rWwrr % fi^qPd srer mistakes. frFf % STETR *?tft THRTT I also want to know from the Gov wht % ernment whether they are aware of VUftfWI % *TRSt*f %faT5S anti-national forces inside this coun qr?*reft% tft * tt$ q *rr fr*r«rr,i?r try, whether they are individuals or organisations, who have extra-terri srrer ft ^ fozrr srr ?rwr 1 torial loyalty. I want to know from ^ F t S * t % 9 ^ 5 t «TT *rfSPF the Government whether the Gov cPf? W ^ r R r J T ft ernment is keeping a watch over them. I further want to know whe ?ft srrf cr wr m v n * r $ ther the Government is aware of these forces whose loyalty can be frjftm m *s K r fw * St w p t ^ # questioned and who are infiltrating into other organisations, thus occupy q^Tfsr?p T 157 n ^ ^ ft ing important and key positions, and * r t s srrsrnft % 5?** 1 1 sometimes vulnerable positions. «TR5T % *ft SRT^ ^ sftT ?ft 5rfijT®T- Lastly, I want to know from the Government whether they are con )^H|t tjt %m tnfiftT *l5t ^TfRrr ’tnpi CM activities DECEMBER 12, 1972 tft India (Disc) 288 [*ft f im ^ 3r^r vnr Tfr | ^ q k 3frw ft ^ % ??rf^ vn » i TOttfifWT m iprefte to w * m $ t 1 1” 'fji'ifivH TO IV^I ?ft liVi Vl't «ft*r fllW ld w fvcftw 5?t St 3HRT q u ftm # tit m m f w r ^ %m f r gwM fr SRTTPTT I ^T^taiRTT^r^^tW ^q tftin fq % qw gpvttVT 6 5rw ^«rf?r srft ^ srfanrt qr£? % fro tft w t ^ & m | m w w t t % *r *15 to t | ft? vi tit otPtsf Mni^vf ?rt % * m ^ t it f w r r fWTETKr *rt|, ^ fro to t f t t | — qflTH>FHT WnT^fT VTK B^VTO & f*T tit TM$Rn> fVTRBTTT *RTT | I m P r ^ t 1 ^ ^?nr I f% ^ ^ W - sp^tor* ^tfror to Sr forc tit rrr # wt fv fw )? ar^ n f | i gw# ^»T f^rr 1 ffcft tit snsfflT v t