946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE January 19, 1965 Scott, Gerald E. Wieden, Clifford, Jr. Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I rise as long as he was able, he had a cheerful Simmons, Clyde M. Yaeger, Richard A. today to pay tribute to a former distin­ greeting for all and was loved alike by men, Smith, Clarence D. Bode, Wichard H., Jr. women, and children. As raconteur he had guished Member of the U.S. House of few equals as his long-to-be-remembered Starzynski, Paul M. Clark, James A. Representatives-an outstanding native Tanksley, Lawrence E. Merry, Bion E. stories of old Northfield and its people bear Van Grol, Daniel P., Rodgers, John H. citizen of the State of Vermont-a friend witness in the memories of those whose III Huey, Benjamin M. of many of you who are still here--the world is a desolate place now that he has late Charles A. Plumley, U.S. Represent­ left it. (Note: Asterisk ( •) indicates ad interim ative from Vermont from January 16, A lover of beauty wherever he found it, his appointment issued.) garden on Prospect Street brought joy to all, 1934, to January 3, 1951. especially when his peonies and an occa­ Mr. Plumley died in the town where he sional "piney" were at their height. If a.11, CONFIRMATIONS was born, educated, and retired, North­ into whose lives he brought laughter and Executive nominations confirmed by field, Vt., on October 31, 1964, following sunshine, could place one blossom on his the Senate January 19, 1965: the adjournment of the 88th Congress. grave he would sleep tonight in Mount Hope He was buried the day before Election in a wilderness of flowers. He met life on its DEPARTMENT OF THE TREAS~Y Day, but as was .true of him in life, so own terms always with an equable temper, Sheldon S. Cohen, of Maryland, to be Com­ death did not cheat him from full par­ cheerful courage, and steady faith. missioner of Internal Revenue. "Take him for all in all, we shall not look Mitchell Rogovin, of Virginia, to be an As­ ticipation in the politics of that day. upon his like again." · sistant General Counsel in the Department For he had cast an absentee ballot for of the Treasury (Chief Counsel for the In­ President and other offices just prior to Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Speaker, will the ternal Revenue Service) . his death. gentleman yield to me? Charlie Plumley served a long and no­ Mr. STAFFORD. I would be delighted ...... table career in this great body, as did his to yield to the distinguished gentleman father, the late Frank Plumley, Repre­ from Indiana [Mr. HALLECK]. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES sentative from Vermont from 1909 to Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Speaker, as one 1915. But it would be difficult to have . who served here with Charlie Plumley, of TUESDAY, JANUARY 19, 1965 categorized the life of Charles Plumley. Vermont, and as one who admired him, The House met at 12 o'clock noon. In the field of education, he was a prin­ respected him, and loved him, I would The Chaplain, Rev. Bernard Braskamp, cipal . and superintendent in the public just like to say that the gentleman from D.D., o:tfered the following prayer: school system of his hometown and in Vermont's appraisal of Charlie Plumley's later years served as president of Nor­ record here, his character and his serv­ use the verse of Scripture, Ephesians wich University, one of this country's ice, is entirely correct. Charlie Plumley 3: 20: Now unto Him who is able to do outstanding military schools, from 1920 was one of the finest gentlemen that I exceeding abundantly above all that we to 1934. have ever known. His friendship meant ask or think, according to the power that Mr. Plumley was commissioner of taxes a lot to me. I am sorry indeed that he worketh in us. for the State of Vermont for 7 years, after has gone to his reward, but I am sure Almighty God, we earnestly beseech having served in administrative positions that all those who knew him would agree Thee to bestow Thy gracious favor and in both our State senate and house of with me that he served here with dis­ benediction upon our President, our Vice representatives. As a member of the tinction, that he contributed in full President, our Speaker, and the Members State house of representatives, he served measure to the benefit of his Nation and of the Congress. that body as speaker. his State. Grant that they may know how to After 17 years in this body, Charlie Again I thank the gentleman for yield­ guide the Ship of State and embody and Plumley retired on his own, expressing ing to me that I might add my sincere express that noble kind of patriotism the view in his own words: words of tribute to a great friend of mine, which seeks in personal character and I thought, and still think, that some Charlie Plumley. public service to protest and perpetuate younger man should bear the burden of the Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, will the the good name of our beloved country. responsibility for carrying out the ideas and gentleman yield to me? May we all aspire to emulate the faith­ the ideologies for which I have stood over Mr. STAFFORD. I will be glad to ful in doing high and helpful things for the years. yield to the distinguished majority our Republic and share in the blessed Those of you who worked here in the leader. ministry of healing the hurts and heart­ Congress with Charlie Plumley knew him Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I join my aches of bruised and broken humanity. for his honesty and friendliness, and for distinguished colleague from Vermont Now may Thy grace, mercy, and peace the many years of valuable service he and the distinguished gentleman from descend upon us, through Jesus Christ, performed as a member of the important Indiana [Mr. HALLECK] in this word of our Lord, in whose name we pray. Appropriations Committee. tribute to a former Member who per­ Amen. But of those who knew him best, I be­ formed outstanding service in this body lieve the words expressed fallowing his and who had earned and received the THE JOURNAL death by a lifelong friend and class­ highest respect of his colleagues. He The Journal of the proceedings of yes­ mate, Mr. William D. Hassett, of North­ loved the House and was loved by it. terday was read and approved. field, come the closest to describing this I was shocked at the news of his death, memorable :man. Mr. Hassett, former and I extend my deepest sympathies to secretary to Presidents Roosevelt and his friends and relatives. DESIGNATION OF SPEAKER PRO Truman, wrote of his friend: Mr. STAFFORD. I appreciate the TEMPORE In the quiet of an October morning the words of the majority leader. long life of Charles Plumley ebbed to a peace­ Mr. O'HARA of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, The SPEAKER. The Chair designates ful close. even before I came to the Congress I the Honorable EMANUEL CELLER, of New Few lives have touched the life of our had heard of the good heart and the York, to act as Speaker pro tempore to­ Northfield community at so many angles as good works of the Honorable Charles Al­ morrow, January 20, 1965. his. Born in the family home on Pleasant Street, as a boy he attended the graded bert Plumley. The late Congressman school and prepared for Norwich University Ralph Church had referred to him a THE LATE HONORABLE CHARLES A. at Northfield High School. He was the only matter in which I was interested, because son of Frank Plumley, one of the foremost the young man concerned, who formerly PLUMLEY trial lawyers in New England and of Lavinia had been a constituent of Congressman Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I ask Fletcher Plumley. His mother was once Church, was then a resident of Vermont. unanimous consent to address the House preceptress o! the local high school, of which It was one of those personal matters, for 1 minute and to revise and extend my her son was afterward principal. The Plumley household was a home of plain not of earthshaking importance, but of remarks. living and high thinking. real concern to at least one young man The SPEAKER. Is there objection In all the great relations of life Charles and the members of his immediate fam­ to the request of the gentleman from Plumley never was found wanting nor in­ ily. I appreciated greatly the response Vermont? adequate. He had a genius for friendship of Vermont's veteran Congressman in There was no objection. and in his daily walks around Depot Square, the case of a young man, a stranger to January 19, 1965 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 947 him, only recently come to his State of tional system restudied, reinforced, and re­ James E. Webb, of the National Aero­ Vermont and, moreover, a member of a vitalized. nautics and Space Administration, that Democratic family. The administration measure, Mr. the second unmanned Gemini spacecraft When I came to the 8lst Congress I Speaker, which developed out of mutual has been recovered by our naval forces sought him out personally to tell him my consultations among the executive 2,150 miles down range in the mid-At­ appreciation. The friendship that fol­ branch and the legislative branch and lantic. lowed was rich and rewarding. I am the educational constituencies, is a com­ This spacecraft was launched at 9: 03 grieved to learn of his passing. In April mendable one. The most significant this morning from Cape Kennedy on a next he would have reached the ripe ae:e proposal, in my judgment, is the Presi­ 16,60-0-mile-an-hour course. If post­ of 90. His indeed was a long and useful dent's recommendation for university ex­ flight tests indicate satisfactory per­ life and at every stage of a career that tension and continuing education. This formance during the flight, we have to­ included the presidency of Norwich Uni­ I would like to call-as has a Portland day passed a significant milestone in our versity, speaker of the Vermont House of university president-the "City Grant space program. Early indications are Representatives, soldier, lawyer, banker, College Act." The Landmark Morrill that the mission met all requirements. statesman. He made a friend of every­ Act of more than one century ago Today's launch was the second in the one with whom he worked. brought into being the land grant college Gemini-Titan series. It was designed to Our late beloved friend and colleague system to serve a primarily rurally complete the qualification of the launch was the son of another Congressman oriented Nation. Today, the situation vehicle and spacecraft for the program's Plumley from Vermont, the Honorable has completely switched about and more two-man flights. Frank Plumley, who served in the 61st, than 70 percent of Americans live in The first of these will carry NASA 62d, and 63d Congresses. urban areas. The City Grant College Astronauts Virgil Grissom and John Act can do for our cities, beleaguered by Young into a three-orbital mission this spring. Later flights will be used to per­ GENERAL LEAVE TO EXTEND bad housing, overcrowding, and a host of social problems, what the Land-Grant fect space rendezvous and docking tech­ Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I ask College Act did for the agricultural seg­ niques, to study the performance of unanimous consent that all Members ments of our Nation. This recommenda­ astronauts during periods of up to 2 may have 2 legislative days in which to tion by the Johnson administration may weeks in space, and to test other opera­ extend their remarks at this point in the be the most significant of any recom­ tions that are basic to the lunar-landing RECORD. mendation of this generation. Today we Apollo program which will follow Gem­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection to cannot even envisage the results of this ini. the request of the gentleman from Ver­ forward-looking program. Gemini is the second major phase of mont? Among its many other fine features is our manned space-flight activities. We There was no objection. the long-overdue proposal of a program moved boldly into this two-man flight of student assistance in the form of program after the brilliant success of the scholarships for 140,000 needy and qual­ six manned flights of Project Mercury. TO IMPROVE THE HIGHER EDUCA­ ified high school graduates. Surely, any We have confidence that Gemini and TION SYSTEM IN OUR NATION qualified young man or woman . who Apollo will prove equally successful and that this Nation will continue to move Mrs. GREEN of Oregon. Mr. Speaker, really wants a college education should have that opportunity. resourcefully with the help of its indus­ I ask unanimous consent to address the tries, its universities, its government, and House for 1 minute, to revise and extend Still another, is a faculty exchange program to strengthen less developed col­ the aspirations of all its citizens toward my remarks, and to include extraneous that day when the will matter. leges. Many smaller colleges, apart from the mainstream of academic life for stand preeminent in space as it is al­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection ready preeminent on earth. to the request of the gentlewoman from many reasons beyond their immediate Oregon? control, face major financial problems, There was no objection. loss of accreditation, or difficulties in at­ AKIO NAGAMINE, SPEAKER OF THE tracting top personnel. This proposal, Mrs. GREEN of Oregon. Mr. Speaker, which I introduced last year for purposes UNICAMERAL LEGISLATURE OF I am pleased today to introduce the OKINAWA administration's recommendations to of discussion and study, would encourage improve the higher education system of our most advanced universities to enter Mr. MATSUNAGA. Mr. Speaker, I into cooperative relationships with less ask unanimous consent to address the our Nation. developed colleges. I was most pleased House for 1 minute. A week ago, President Lyndon John­ that this administration has included The SPEAKER. Is there objection son sent to the Congress an education this plan in the overall recommendations. to the request of the gentleman from message which, in my view, was the finest And finally, not without note, is the Hawaii? ever submitted to the National Legisla­ proposal to enable purchase of books and ture. In the course of the 13-page mes­ There was no objection. library materials to strengthen college Mr. MATSUNAGA. Mr. Speaker, it is sage, President Johnson made many elo­ teaching and research. quent statements on behalf of education. my distinct honor and pleasure to an­ And so in the words of Lyndon Johnson nounce that among many distinguished One such passage stands out 1n my mind. on a far more somber day about 1 year It came when the President quoted visitors to our Capital City during these ago, "Let us ~ontinue." Let us continue busy days of inaugural festivities is a Mirabeau B. Lamar, second President of to expand and improve the partnership great friend of the United States, Mr. the Republic of Texas and the father of between the public and private colleges Akio Nagamine, speaker of the uni­ Texas education: and the Federal Government that our cameral Legislature of Okinawa. The cultivated mind is the guardian genius children may "le better equipped and bet­ Mr. Nagamine, now 56, is a leader of of democracy. It is the only dictator that ter educated to face the challenges of free man acknowledges. It ls the only secu­ the Okinawa Democratic Party. He has rity that free man desires. tomorrow. devoted all of his adult life to public service, having been a schoolteacher, vice Surely there are none among us today GEMINI SPACECRAFT SUCCESS principal, and principal. In 1946 he . who cannot subscribe to President John­ was appointed a school inspector by the son's invitation to us to join with him in Mr. MILLER. Mr. Speaker, I ask Okinawa Civil Administration. He has declaring a national goal of full educa­ unanimous consent to address the House also served as mayor of Oroku-son, and tional opportunity. Surely we can em­ for 1 minute and to revise and extend my commissioner of the land acquisition ex­ bark with the President on another ven­ remarks. amining committee of the Ryukyu Gov­ ture to put the American dream to work The SPEAKER. Is there objection ernment. In 1956 he was elected to the in meeting the new demands of a new to the request of the gentleman from Okinawan Legislature and reelected for day. He continues: California? an additional five terms. He was chosen Once again we must start where men who There was no objection. speaker of the unicameral legislature in would improve their society have always Mr. MILLER. Mr. Speaker, I have re­ 1960 and has held that position ever known they must begin-with an educa- ceived word from the Administrator, since. 948 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE January 19, 1965 Mr. Speaker, I am sure I speak for the the type of legislation that we are off er­ as much lead and zinc as they are able entire membership of this House when I ing today and an expansion of our inter­ to at the present time under the existing say that we are greatly honored by the national trade. quotas, which were imposed by the Presi­ visit of the Honorable Akio Nagamine, Let me also state for the record that dent of the United States on October 1, speaker of the Legislature of Okinawa. there has been an improvement in the 1958. Those quotas are rigid, absolute domestic lead and zinc mining industry quotas which, in my opinion, were very in the last year and that prices of lead liberal and to the advantage of foreign LEAD-ZINC ACT OF 1965 and zinc are at a level that will make it producers when they were imposed. INTRODUCED possible for the industry to operate eco­ By utilizing the existing quotas as a Mr. ASPINALL. Mr. Speaker, I ask nomically if these prices are maintained. base, our flexible quota plan assures unanimous consent to extend my remarks But let us not forget that this improve­ friendly foreign governments that these at this point in the RECORD. ment,' that these profits accrue to the quantities will remain the minimum The SPEAKER. Is there objection benefit of those who have weathered the eligible for impprt and that, whenever to the request of the gentleman from storm and remained in operation through the U.S. market conditions require it, the Colorado? the lean years when lead and zinc could import restrictions will be relaxed and There was no objection. not be mined profitably. This does not additional quantities of lead and zinc Mr. ASPINALL. Mr. Speaker, I know help those who were forced to go out of could be imported. Likewise, of course, that Members of the House are familiar business; they cannot be helped unless the flexible quota system would provide in general with the various problems that and until they have some assurance that for decreasing the quotas when metals have beset the lead and zinc industry in the industry will be stabilized during a stock levels indicate that U.S. market the last decade. I have been bringing long enough period of time to warrant conditions are such that lesser imports these facts to the attention of this body the investment necessary to reopen old are required. because of the importance of the lead mines and open new ones. The bill that we are offering today has and zinc industry to the economy of We are at a stage of our economic de­ the support of all segments of the do­ many regions throughout the country velopment today where we need in­ mestic lead and zinc industry-miners and therefore to the overall economy. cre9.sed amounts of lead and zinc for and smelters alike. This bill is a refine­ In my district-the Fourth Congres­ domestic consumption. Some manufac­ ment of legislation that many of us sional District of Colorado--lead and turing and processing industries have sponsored in the last Congress. One of zinc mining is not only important but told us that they are facing disastrous the features of the legislation which we has added to the folklore of our Nation shortages of lead and zinc in the immedi­ think is an improvement over the terms through the exploits of brave and ad­ ate future. The domestic lead and zinc of the earlier bills places in global venturous prospectors in many districts. mining industry cannot meet this short­ quotas percentages of import allowances There is still a lot of ore in the ground at range demand and the legislation has that are not being utilized under existing Leadville; but, there is little activity be­ been introduced by Members of this body quota. In addition we think that we will cause the depressed conditions of recent to provide for the release of additional provide greater assurance of stability for years forced the mines to close. Other supplies of lead and zinc from the na­ the domestic miner and consumer while areas are likewise inactive although the tional stockpile. Some further stockpile at the same time assuring the importer minerals are there. · release appears justified, but I reserve of a share of the market. Since the 86th Congress it has been my for another day my judgment on the By permitting a continuation of the responsibility, as chairman of the House question of the quantity and the proce­ allocation of existing quotas to those Committee on Interior and Insular Af­ dures of sale. However, I do make the countries that now have such quotas and fairs, to consider measures that would firm observations that the stockpile was have substantially fulfilled them under help all domestic mining industries in­ not created for the i:-urpose of feeding the present plan, and can be expected to cluding lead and zinc. So, I have been supplies into the normal domestic utilize them in the immediate future, we actively seeking solutions to these prob­ markets and that stockpiled materials permit those countries to sustain their lems. I have long felt that the key to should not be utilized to influence the own present level of production. Stated the dP.velopment and maintenance of do­ market. another way: The flexible quota proce­ mestic mining sources that can be relied The time to take the necessary steps to dure will permit an increase in base upon to expand our domestic economy assure a continuing supply of lead and quota levels in direct relation to any sus­ and to be available if we ever need them zinc for domestic use is now. We cannot tained growth of our economy resulting for a national emergency, is to make accomplish this purpose by relying on in increased consumption of lead and sure that we balance imports to the end either the stockpile or on foreign produc­ zinc and thereby permit foreign pro­ that the domestic mining industry will tion and imports. And let me emphasize ducers to share proportionately in our be assured of a fair share of the domestic that it is not only in time of emergency growth. market and therefore will be encouraged that we cannot rely on foreign sources; Finally, we have provided that when­ to make investments for long-range we cannot rely on these sources at any ever a.country fills less than 90 percent development. time and particularly not at this stage of of its assigned quota during a calendar Those of us who have been laboring emerging and developing nations that year the deficiencies would be allocated for the salvation of the lead-zinc indus­ have created new markets for these com­ to a global quota, available to any coun­ try are of the opinion, Mr. Speaker, that modities at the very time that the highly try, thereby providing supplies necessary this year we have the combination, that industrialized nations, including ours, to supplement domestic production and we have found a formula that, when en­ have created increased demands through also automatically adjust imports to the acted into law, will be fair to this Na­ expansion of their economies. Nonethe­ fluctuations of mine and metal produc­ tion, its producers and consumers, and less, should there be a reduction in the tion available for export to the United will, at the same time, be fair to our rate of economic expansion, it would be States by other countries. friends in the community of nations at that very time that foreign producers Those of us introducing this legisla­ whose economy to some extent is de­ would rush to take advantage of the U.S. tion today urge all Members to study it pendent upon exporting lead and zinc to market and once again possibly create and we will welcome expressions of sup­ the United States. the unfavorable conditions that caused port in the form of additional cospon­ In this connection, let me emphasize the domestic lead-zinc mining industry sors who would also introduce this for the record that the national policy to suffer the hardships it did during the legislation. as set forth in the Trade Expansion Act last decade. It is my hope, Mr. Speaker, that the is recognized by many of the supporters The time to assure a continuing flow distinguished chairman of the Commit­ of lead-zinc import legislation as being of necessary lead and zinc is now; and tee on Ways and Means, the gentleman advantageous to the growth of the Amer­ the way to do it is by arrangement for a from Arkansas, the Honorable WILBUR ican economy generally, that many seg­ flexible import quota that will remove D. MILLS, will obtain early reports on ments of the industry supporting this the threat of economic disaster for this legislation from the interested legislation have significant international domestic mines while at the same time executive departments and agencies and trade, and that in my considered opinion assuring foreign producers that they can thereafter schedule hearings on this there is no basic inconsistency between continue shipping to this country at least measure. This is a bipartisan national January 19, 1965 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE project in which we have representation Mr. !CHORD. Mr. Speaker, I have of immediate action by Congress to en­ from the North, East, and South, as well again this year joined the gentleman act import controls in the interest of as the West. I readily admit, however, from Colorado, Chairman ASPINALL, of providing long-term stabilization of the that my interest is heightened by the fact the House Interior and Insular Affairs lead-zinc industry at economic levels fa­ that Colorado has consistently been one Committee, in the introduction of legis­ vorable to domestic producers by the of the five principal States producing lation designed to impose a flexible quota flexible import quota plan presented by lead and zinc from among the 20 States system on imports of lead and zinc to the gentleman from Colorado, Chairman that have produced lead and zinc in sub­ protect the domestic lead and zinc in­ ASPINALL. stantial quantities. New sources of lead dustry from devastating price levels that I strongly urge passage of this legisla- and zinc are being tapped. We reason­ have resulted in the past. tion. · ably anticipate new significant produc­ For more than a decade this industry, Mr. ASPINALL. Mr. Speaker, I ask tion from Kentucky and Maine to main­ so necessary and vital to our Nation's unanimous consent that the gentleman tain the pace and accelerate production national defense, has experienced the from Tennessee [Mr. QUILL.EN] may ex­ to keep in step with the growing throes of a holocaust of cancerous tend his remarks at this point in the economy. genus, which has slowly and constantly RECORD. We must take the necessary legislative been destroying the lifeblood of the lead­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection action at this time to fores tall a recur­ zinc industry, and in its wake, closing to the request of the gentleman from rence of the broad differential that has our own mines and causing great pro­ Colorado? occurred on other occasions resulting in portions of unemployment. In view of There was no objection. uncertainty and economic disaster. the ills suffered by the industry, I think Mr. QUILLEN. Mr. Speaker, I am Mr. ASPINALL. Mr. Speaker, I ask it is time for Congress to take positive joining today in introduction of the Lead unanimous consent that the gentleman action to stabilize and maintain a and Zinc Act of 1965, providing for a from Oregon [Mr. ULLMAN] may extend healthy lead-zinc mining industry. flexible import quota system for these his remarks at this point in the RECORD. The lead-zinc industry has had a series .two metals. · The SPEAKER. Is there objection of ups and downs in the past decade. Conditions in the domestic lead and to the request of the gentleman from The price of lead per pound decreased zinc markets have improved during the Colorado? progressively from $0.179 in 1948 to past year, because of a good rate of con­ There was no objection. $0.092 in 1962. In 1963 the price rose to sumption, that has paced the generally $0.11 and approximately $0.14 in 1964, satisfactory level of our economy. The Mr. ULLMAN. Mr. Speaker, I am in keeping with the trend of the general pleased to rise at this time to associate domestic mining industry is finally ap­ level of our economy, but how long can proaching the point of recovery after a myself with the concept outlined by my this industry endure on the premise of colleague, the gentleman from Colorado, very long spell of reduced and unprofit­ survival by chance? The price is still able operation. Now is the time to con­ the Honorable WAYNE N. ASPINALL, who too low for satisfactory conditions in the has been doing such an outstanding job sider and enact proper import controls industry. Of course, the improvement is to assure long-term stabilization of the as chairman of the House Committee on gratifying, but we must look toward a Interior and Insular Affairs and particu­ industry at operating and economic levels long-term stabilization by improving favorable to domestic producers with as­ larly in discharging the responsibilities trade policies and statutes. of that committee with regard to domes­ surance of adequate metal supplies for The flexible import quota system pro­ United States consumers. tic mining and mineral industries. posed by this legislation is the only im­ For this reason, I am happy to join as For more than a decade the lead-zinc mediate answer to the serious problem. mining industry in the United States has a cosponsor of the Lead and Zinc Act of It is designed as a twofold purpose, to been beset with serious problems and un­ 1965. I, too, subscribe to the thought ad­ help our own domestic producers and to certainty arising from imports of these vanced by my colleague from Colorado to still maintain necessary trade on the metals and ores. During this period the the effect that the flexible quota formula world market. industry has appeared before the U.S. proposed in this import legislation is not How can we continue to justify the in­ Tariff Commission on many occasions, inconsistent with our basic policy under­ action of Congress to the U.S. mines and lying the Trade . Expansion Act. The each time with findings of import injury, producers? In my own State of Missouri, but there still is no intelligent solution fact is that we must assure ourselves of where more than 40 percent of the Na­ to its problems, although these problems continuing adequate supplies of lead and tion's supply of lead is produced, there have repeatedly been demonstrated and zinc, and this can only be accomplished are only 6 mines in operation today, as if we encourage the discovery and de­ recognized. compared to 90 in 1948, 68 in 1950, 18 in A system of absolute quotas was im­ velopment of additional domestic 1955, and 5 in 1960. As the mines have sources. posed on October 1, 1958, but these quotas closed the unemployment rolls have in­ are not an effective instrument to meet It is a source of satisfaction and en­ creased, until today there are hundreds of the problems of the mining and smelting couragement that those of us cosponsor­ men out of work and as many families industries or of the consumers of lead and ing this legislation have been able to with little means of support, causing in­ zinc in the United States. They were set agree on a formula which starts from a calculable damage to the local economy too high to effectively and expeditiously base in which the present quotas are the and adding to the injuries of the in­ correct the situation that called for their minimum and that, therefore, when do­ dustry. imposition in 1958, at a time when metal mestic consumption of lead or zinc in­ Something has to be done and now, not stocks were at extraordinarily high levels creases, we will have a liberalization of next year, is the time. and metal prices were too low for profit­ the import controls permitting addition­ It is my opinion, after much basic re­ able mine operation. Being of fixed quan­ al foreign material to enter the country. search into this matter, that the flexible, tity, they guaranteed to foreign producers The bills that we have introduced to­ adjustable plan proposed by this legisla­ a fixed quantitative participation in the day are fair to all-domestic producer as tion will provide the necessary control to U.S. market, regardless of the level of well as foreign producer, the consuming stabilize the industry and solve the prob­ consumption, thus putting the entire bur­ industries as well as the consuming lems. Through the provisions of the bill den of adjustment during low cycles of public. it will be possible to assure a fair share domestic consumption on the U.S. mines. I urge enactment of this legislation as of the domestic lead-zinc market to the Further, being of fixed quantity, they an important part of our economic domestic industry without disturbing in­ have no flexibility to meet changing levels progress. ternational relations by the flexible, ad­ of consumption, and under some condi­ Mr. ASPINALL. Mr. Speaker, I ask justable quotas. tions such as those prevailing today they unanimous consent that the gentleman There are only 20 States where lead approach the point of being too low. from Missouri [Mr. !CHORD] may extend and zinc mining is in operation today, The underlying conditions that caused his remarks at this point in the RECORD. but the problems I have briefly delineated the 1956-57 debacle have not changed The SPEAKER. Is there objection are important enough to warrant the and in the absence of adequate and ef­ to the request of the gentleman from serious attention of every Member of the· fective import controls will continue as a Colorado? House of Representatives. I cannot ex­ threat to the stability of the U.S. mining There was no objection. aggerate or overemphasize the necessity industry. In fact, the strong trend to 950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE January 19, 1965 treatment of ores in countries of origin, not cope with the rapid fluctuations in The SPEAKER. Is there objection with a view to selling the metal prod­ U.S. and world price changes experienced to the request of the gentleman from ucts in the United States, has widened during the past decade. This reempha­ Illinois? the threat to stability of the lead-zinc sizes the oft-repeated statement that "a There was no objection. smelting industry in the United States, mine is not a spigot--production cannot Mr. O'HARA of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, and even to the continued existence of be turned on and off at will"-the nat­ it is now 2 years since I stated on this some segments of it. ural factors of geologic occurrence and floor that the Communist threat in Being aware of the deficiencies of the expensive maintenance and replacement Africa came not from Russia but from present quotas and the need for achiev­ of machinery as well as training of man­ Red China. Recent events have shown ing and maintaining reasonable stability power must be considered. the growing seriousness of this threat, in the domestic lead-zinc industry, .I At the present time the absolute quotas and upon that I shall speak at some have joined with Members of the Con­ of 1958 appear too restrictive, but re­ length on a later occasion. gress in seeking a means of curing these moval of these quotas would have little Today I have asked for this time to deficiencies and meeting this need. Dur­ effect, as world market prices are higher comment on this passage from a news ing the 88th Congress we introduced leg­ than ours and some supplies formerly story in the Times of January islation for flexible quotas on lead and sent here by our foreign friends are going 14, 1965, on Premier Sato's conversations zinc, based on past experience with the to greener pastures. with President Johnson: Mr. Speaker, the economics of zinc and existing quota plan. The communique said President John­ Import quotas would be determined by lead mining do look better at the present son "emphasized the U.S. policy of firm the relative level of producers' metal time, but we know that other nations support for the Republic of China (on stocks and would consider the interests are already' greatly expanding their Taiwan) and his grave concern that Com­ of the miner, smelter, consumer, and capacity to mine zinc and lead ores and munist China's militant policies and expan­ importer. . ·to increase smelting capacity to refine sionist pressures against its neighbors en­ The domestic lead-zinc industry has these two metals. This exceeds the re­ danger the peace of Asia." been held in uncertainty too long. Main­ liable estimates of an increase in world Mr. Speaker, the column of William tenance and development of the indus­ consumption. White is widely read by discriminating try cannot proceed with confidence un­ It is inevitable that a worldwide sur­ persons in the field . of world affairs. I less the industry can look to the future plus of metal will again occur and this am certain he has spoken truly the mood with assurance that it will not again be can happen within a short period of 1 of the administration and the thinking the victim of unwarranted invasion of the to 3 years. · of the American people. Our interest U.S. market. The flexible quota plan that I am intro­ and the interest of all the free world, in­ Prompt adoption of flexible quota leg­ ducing today, in a bill identical with the cluding Japan, is in free China. Cer­ islation in substantially the form pro­ one i~troduced by the gentleman from tainly trade with Red China, intended to posed by Members of the Congress would Colorado, Chairman ASPINALL, will con­ bolster the economy of those intent on provide this assurance and put to rest trol imports of zinc and lead to necessary our destruction, is not what we would without further unwarranted delay a levels. This plan has been studied hope from a trusted ally. problem that has too long awaited 'solu­ and approved by practically all seg­ It is my hope that the visit of the Jap­ tion. ments of the U.S. mining and smelt­ anese Prime Minister, which was so de­ Mr. ASPINALL. Mr. Speaker, I ask ing industry. Their endorsement is lightfully staged and so promising for unanimous consent that the gentleman made not on self-interest alone but with the future of our two countries, will clear from Kansas [Mr. SKuBITzJ may extend the overr-iding consideration that the up any misunderstanding on the matter his remarks at this point in the RECORD. consumer must have adequate metal sup­ of trade with Red China. True allies, as The SPEAKER. Is there objection plies on a long-term basis and prices true friends, must stand together. The to the request of the gentleman from must be fair and equitable for all con­ strength of the free world in large meas­ Colorado? cerned with a minimum of fluctuation to ure is in the acceptance by all of con­ There was no objection. enable long-term planning by both the certed policies. Mr. SKUBITZ. Mr. Speaker, I repre­ producer and consumer. The flexible I commend President Johnson for sent a congressional district that has quota plan also provides for a fair shar­ making it clear, according to the New been noted for its production of zinc and ing of our markets with the foreign na­ York Times, that our full support is with lead-so important to the growing econ­ tions producing zinc and lead and on an the Republic of China. Trade by our omy of our country. Unfortunately this orderly basis. Stated another way, im­ allies with Communist China could production has dwindled since the mid­ ports will be authorized as needed to scarcely be called compatible. That, I fifties to a small proportion of previous supplement our own ability to produce; trust, wlll be the message carried home annual totals as many mines were forced but, in addition, the plan guarantees the to Japan by the Premier who so charmed to close, with U.S. metal prices driven to importer of zinc and lead a minimum us during his all too brief visit. unprofitably low levels. quota at the level of the present alloca­ These price reductions were caused by tion. As consumption increases, imports may increase. an influx of foreign imports, particularly EQUITABLE AND REASONABLE DI­ during 1956 and 1957 that greatly ex­ The legislation also continues provi­ sions to gradually change allocations VISION OF DEBATE ON CONFER­ ceeded our needs and our ability to as­ ENCE REPORTS similate in the American economy. from those who do not wish to partici­ As a result an absolute quota plan was pate in our markets to those countries Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, I ask invoked in late 1958 but the damage had desiring a greater share of our consump- unanimous consent to address the House been done. Large metal stocks overhung tion. ' for 1 minute and to revise and extend our markets and kept U.S. prices at the In summary this is a plan that con­ my remarks. unprofitable low levels, previously re­ siders the needs of the miner, the The SPEAKER. Is there objection f erred to, resulting in closure of domestic smelter, and the consumer and the de­ to the request of the gentleman from mines, not only in my district but in sires of the importer. New York? practically all the districts of our 20 The present absolute quota system There was no objection. States providing these metals. should be replaced by the flexible quota Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, I am Employment in U.S. mines was cut by system for the good of our industry and today introducing a House resolution 60 percent and the value of the products our country. I urge speedy considera­ calling for amendment of rule xxvm mined was cut in half compared to the tion and enactment of this important of the rules of the House to provide for early 1950's. measure ·by the 89th Congress. an equitable and reasonable division of With the current change and improve­ debate time on conference reports. ment in consumption of zinc and lead, PREMIER SATO'S VISIT This House has indicated its concern there is now a tight supply of both met­ Mr. O'HARA of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, for fair treatment of minorities and it als. The mines, lacking any incentive I ask unanimous consent to address the can do no less than to establish fair during the past 10 years to explore, de­ House for 1 minute and to revise and ground rules for the conduct of its own velop, and mine new ore reserves, can- extend my remarks. affairs. January 19, 1965 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 951 The proposed new paragraph to be in­ spending less money when the fa?t is we OrrINGER, the returned Member of the serted in the rule would read as follows: are spending more. Let the admmistra­ House from said district, of his purpose to tion present to Congress legitimate budg­ contest the election of said RICHARD L. 3. When a motion to disagree to a con­ OTTINGER; and ference report in its entirety has been made, et requests, stated in plain language so it shall be in order, before a final vote is we, and the people we represent, may Whereas it does not appear that said taken thereon, to debate the proposition James R. Frankenberry was a candidate for to have the opportunity to judge all pro­ election to the House of Representatives be voted upon for one-half hour to be given posed programs on their merits and in to debate in favor of, and one-half hour to from the Twenty-Fifth Congressional Dis­ debate in opposition to, such a proposition. their true light. trict of the State of New York, at the elec­ tion held November 3, 1964: Therefore be it The ultimate object of the resolution, Resolved, That the House of Representa­ of course, is to assure the minority of an ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE MAJORITY tives does not regard the said James R. opportunity to state its case on these re­ LEADER Frankenberry as a person competent to bring a contest for a seat in the House and his ports. There can be no question, ~o~e­ Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I . ask notice of contest, served upon the sitting over that it guarantees to the maJority unanimous consent to address the House Member, RICHARD L. OTTINGER, is hereby dis­ the immense advantage of an effective for 1 minute and to revise and extend my missed. opposition. Under the rules as they now stand, remarks. Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I yield The SPEAKER. Is there objection myself such time as I might consume. conference reports are considered in the to the request of the gentleman from House under the 1-hour rule. The indi­ Mr. Speaker, the purpose of this reso­ vidual Member handling the report can Oklahoma? lution is to dismiss a contest brought move the previous question without There was no objection. against the gentleman from New York yielding to the opposition, effectively Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I have re­ [Mr. OTTINGER]. The notice of contest quested this time for the purpose of mak­ was given by letter dated December 19, gagging the minority and cutting off the ing a statement to my colleagues. possibility of constructive and effecti~e 1964 by Mr. James R. Frankenberry, of criticism. There is no way that any mi­ Mr. Speaker, I desire to alert my col­ 40 Woodland Avenue, Bronxville, N.Y. nority views can be incorporated into the leagues that when we adjourn today, we Mr. Frankenberry attempts to initiate conference report. will meet tomorrow at 10:30 o'clock. I this contest under the provisions of Re­ I urge the adoption of the resolution, urge all the Members to be here promptly vised Statutes 105 to 130, as amended, 2 Mr. Speaker, as a matter of equity and because the procession for Members of United States Code 201-226 inclusive. commonsense. the House will leave in a body promptly Mr. Speaker, the House is the ex-elusive at 10: 35 a.m., so that the inaugural judge of the election, returns, and quali­ exercises on the platform at the east fications of its Members under article 1, THE PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THE front might start precisely at 11 o'clock. section 5, of the Constitution of the TRUTH There will be no opportunity for Mem­ United States. bers to join the procession after it leaves Mr. MARTIN of Alabama. Mr. Speak­ The application of the statutes in ques­ the House Chamber. tion is justifiable by the House and by er I ask unanimous consent to address Members must display their official the House for 1 minute and to revise and the House alone-In re Voorhis. 296 Fed­ tickets in order to get a seat on the plat­ eral Report 673. extend my remarks. form. There are no seats available for The SPEAKER. Is there objection Mr. Speaker, under the law and under former Members on the platform. the precedents, Mr. Frankenberry is not to the request of the gentleman from Therefore, former Members may not Alabama? a proper party to contest the election of_ join the procession. the gentleman from New York [Mr. There was no objection. The seats to be occupied by Members Mr. MARTIN of Alabama. Mr. Speak­ OTTINGER]. He is not a proper contest­ of the Senate and House of Representa­ ant within the applicable statutes, be­ er, whether we are in favor of foreign aid tives have no cover. Members are urged or opposed to it, I am sure we are all cause he would not be able, if he were to wear overcoats and take hats to pro­ successful, to establish his right to a seat agreed on one basic fact: Congress and tect themselves from the cold. the people are entitled to the truth as to in the House. The contest involving No children will be allowed upon the Locke Miller and the gentleman from the amount being spent and how it is platform, and there will be no seats ex­ distributed. Ohio, Mr. MICHAEL KIRWAN, in 1941, is cept for Members actually holding tickets directly in point, as reported in the CON­ Following the President's message on for their own seats. foreign aid, great publicity was given by GRESSIONAL RECORD, volume 87' part 1, So, if you expect to be in the proces­ page 101. the White House and the news media sion and get a seat on the platform, you leading us to believe that we would spend The proceedings in the House at that must be in the Chamber at 10:30 a.m. to­ time read as follows: less on foreign aid this year than last. morrow. In fact, the President was quoted as say­ The procession will be headed by the "H. RES. 54 ing his foreign aid request "is the small­ Speaker pro tempore, then the chairmen "Whereas Locke Miller, a resident of the est in the history of the foreign program of committees, and then the other Mem­ city of Youngstown, Ohio, in the Nineteenth since it was started in 1948." bers in order of seniority. Congressional District thereof, has served What are the real facts, Mr. Speaker? notice of contest upon MICHAEL J. KIRWAN, Following the inaugural ceremonies on the returned Member of the House from said Fact No. 1 is that the President's re­ the east front, shuttle buses will be district, of his purpose to contest the election quest for foreign aid funds for fiscal 1966 available at First and Independence Ave­ of said MICHAEL J. KmwAN; and is $130 million more than last year's ap­ nue, between 12:30 and 1:30 to take "Whereas it does not appear that said propriation and $380 million more than Members and their wives to the parade Locke Miller was a candidate for election to the appropriation for 1964. reviewing stands at the White House. the House of Representatives from the Nine­ Fact No. 2: He inserted in his message The buses will also be available to bring teenth Congressional District of the State of a separate request for an additional $750 Members back to the Capitol after the Ohio, at the election of November 5, 1940, million for aid to Latin America. but was a candidate for the Democratic nom­ parade. ination from said district at the primary Fact No. 3: He said the amount asked election held in said district at which for the Vietnam operation may not be MICHAEL J. KIRWAN was chosen as the Demo­ enough, and he is· requesting st.andby DISMISSAL OF CONTEST OF ELEC­ cratic nominee: Therefore be it authorization to appropriate additional TION OF RICHARD L. OTTINGER "Resolved, That the House of Representa­ money if necessary. Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I call up tives does not regard the said Locke Miller Fact No. 4: There is already on hand a privileged resolution which is at the as a person competent to bring a contest for $6.5 billion in unexpended funds, money Clerk's desk. a seat in the House and his notice o1'. con­ previously appropriated by Congress, but test served upon the sitting Member, The Clerk read as follows: Mici-iAEL J. KIRWAN, is hereby dismissed; and not yet spent. H. RES. 126 no petition or other paper relating to the Mr. Speaker, it is not fair to the people Whereas James R . Frankenberry, a resident subject matter contained in this resolution of the United States to present budget of the city of Bronxville, New York, in the shall be received by the House, or enter­ requests in terms of juggled figures and Twenty-Fifth Congressional District thereof, tained in any way whatever." statements which make us believe we are has served notice of contest upon RICHARD L. The resolution was agreed to. 952 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE January 19, 1965 A motion to reconsider was laid on the will in effect declare that only a candi­ Indeed I read with interest his remarks table. date for the office of U.S. Representative appearing in the RECORD of yesterday, Mr. Speaker, the issue in the case may contest the election of a Congress- page 797. I am sure he is a fine person, brought by Locke Miller and the notice man. ' but the issues involved in considering filed by Mr. Frankenberry are identical The gentleman from New Hampshire this resolution transcend such consider­ except that in the former case Locke [Mr. CLEVELAND] will follow me with a ation. Miller had been a candidate for the dis­ long series of precedents to the con­ The case for the resolution which has puted office in the primary. The statutes trary. been offered by the distinguished ma­ under which this proceeding is initiated This is the case where it has been al­ jority leader is set forth in detail at page do not provide, and there is no case on leged, and apparently reports have been 795 of yesterday's RECORD. I do not record that we have been able to find to made, that something close to $200,000 know the gentleman who wrote this let­ the contrary, that a person not a party to was spent in the campaign, a very large ter, Mr. H. Newlin Megill, but I respect­ an election contest is eligible to challenge part of that sum by members of the fully submit that when he states the an election under these statutes. family of the candidate. precedents are all his way I believe him Clearly under the precedent to which I do not dispute the majority leader's to be incorrect. I have made reference, Mr. Frankenberry statement that the House of Represent­ I turn, first, to the RECORD for the is not a contestant for a seat in the House, atives is the exclusive Judge of the qual­ first day of our session, page 17, and I and his contest should be dismissed. ifications of its Members, but the Cor­ wish to quote the distinguished majority Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I urge adop­ rupt Practices Act provides specifically leader who was then speaking in refer­ tion of the resolution. for the taking of depositions and testi­ ence to seating the Mississippi delegation. mony which can be submitted to the He said: Mr. Speaker, at this time I yield 2 min­ House Committee on Administration. utes to the gentleman from New York Any question involving the validity of [Mr. 0oODELL]. That procedure was being followed this the regularity of the election of the Mem­ morning in the New York State Supreme bers in question is one which should be dealt Court where one of our Members was with under the laws governing contested CALL OF THE HOUSE subpenaed to appear and testify to these elections. facts. But he did not appear. This reso­ Mr. ARENDS. Mr. Speaker, I make lution would in effect cover up this whole I agree with the majority leader, and the point of order that a quorum is not situation, and it would wipe this out be­ I believe his statement at page 17 of the present. fore the House. RECORD above quoted properly sets forth The SPEAKER. Evidently a quorum Mr. Speaker, it is clear that the elec­ the law pertinent to this matter. is not present. tion laws of this country are fast be­ Let us turn to the law itself, the law Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I move a coming a national disgrace. Certainly that is given out to the general public, call of the House. the House today should handle this kind the law which was read by distinguished A call of the House was ordered. of a matter in a dignified, thorough, and counsel from New York, and the law The Clerk called the roll, and the fol­ eminently fair manner. I would hope, which was acted on in good faith in this lowing Members failed to answer to their therefore, that the House will defeat this present case. Here it is expressed in names: ' resolution and that the matter will then plain and precise language that all can [Roll No. 5] go to the House Administration Com­ understand-2 U.S.C. 201: · Anderson, Grabowski O'Hara, Mich. mittee for proper and deliberate action Whenever any person intends to contest Tenn. Gray O'Neal, Ga. where the facts may be presented and an election of any Member of the House of Ayres Grover Pirnie Representatives of the United States he Baring Harsha Poff where we may consider whether the Battin Harvey, Ind. Powell Member should actually in this case be shall- Belcher Hebert Randall Blatnik Holland Reid,N.Y. seated permanently. And so forth. "Any person." It does Bolling Hosmer Reifel There are many precedents with refer­ not say a candidate only. Bolton Hull Reuss . ence to the campaign contributions and Let us look at the policy established Bow !chord Roncalio Burton, Utah Jarman Roosevelt excessive expenditures where the House by the House Committee on Administra­ Cahill Jones, Ala. Saylor has denied a Member a seat. .Certainly, tion and the special committee that Callaway Kelly Shipley whatever our party, we must recognize handles these matters, and I quote from Casey King, N.Y. Sickles in this kind of a situation that the repu­ Chamberlain Kirwan Staggers the Union Calendar No. 839, House Re­ Clancy Landrum Stalbaum tation and dignity of the U.S. House of port No. 1946. This is the language of Clausen, Leggett Steed Representatives is involved. We should the committee of the House at page XVI: Don H. Lindsay Stephens see to it that a full and complete hear­ Collier Long, La. Teague, Calif. In order to avoid the useless expenditures Corbett Long, Md. Thompson, La. ing is held. Of funds and the loss of time by the com­ Craley McDowell Thompson, Tex. I ask that the Members give particular mittee and the staff, it has been decided by CUrtis Macdonald Toll attention to the remarks of my colleague the committee to conduct investigations of Davis, Ga. Mackay Tuck particular campaigns only upon receipt of Devine Mailliard Tupper from New Hampshire [Mr. CLEVELAND], Diggs Martin, Mass. Van Deerlin who will go into the details of this situa­ a complaint in writing and under oath by Dwyer Martin, Nebr. Watkins tion. any person, candidate, or political commit­ Edwards, Calif. Mathias Watson tee, containing sufficient and definite allega­ Ellsworth May Weltner Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I yield tions of fact to establish a prima facie case Erlen born Michel White, Idaho 10 minutes to the gentleman from New requiring investigation by the committee. Everett Mills Willis Hampshire [Mr. CLEVELAND]. Farbstein Minshall Wilson, Bob Mr. CLEVELAND. Mr. Speaker, I ask Here it is specifically spelled out that Fino Morrison Wright Fisher Morton Wydler unanimous consent to revise and extend it can be any person, candidate, or po­ Fraser Nelsen my remarks and include extraneous litical committee. The SPEAKER. On this rollcall 334 matter. I might add in connection with this Members have answered to their names, The SPEAKER. Is there objection same thought that this matter was re­ a quorum. to the request of the gentleman from f erred to that committee last Decem­ By unanimous consent, further pro­ New Hampshire? ber, but that committee did not have time There was no objection. to act on this matter. In Mr. Davis ceedings under the call were dispensed Mr. CLEVELAND. Mr. Speaker, the with. of Tennessee's last report he transmitted manner in which I became interested and the matter of the ottinger contest to The SPEAKER. The gentleman from concerned regarding this case is set forth New York [Mr. GOODELL] is recognized in some detail in the House RECORD at the Clerk of this House and respectfully for 2 minutes. page 39. I will not restate the details asked to put before the Committee on of how I became interested in this mat­ House Administration the protests of ter at the present time, but I do wish to James R. Frankenberry-see page VI. DISMISSAL OF CONTEST OF ELEC­ say that I have nothing personal against Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, will the TION OF RICHARD L. OTTINGER the gentleman from the 25th District of gentleman yield? Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, the New York. It is simply a matter of the Mr. CLEVELAND. I yield to the gen­ privileged resolution before the House issues involved. tleman from New York. January 19, 1965 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 953 Mr. GOODELL. Is it not a fact that made against the election of a Member by Since that time the House has on occasion the gentleman has briefs from the Con­ anyone other than a candidate. Thus in authorized the investigation of an election by Paine on "Elections" we read: a House committee on petition of a non­ gressional Library which cite a series of "A case adjudicated in the house on the candidate, most recently in connection with precedents in which noncandidates have protest of an elector, or other person, or the election of Dale Alford to a seat from contested House seats, in which full in­ on the motion of a representative. Is not an Arkansas in 1958. (See committee print, "In­ vestigations have been had by the House action inter partes. It is a proceeding under vestigation of the Question of the Final Right Committee on Administration, and that the constitution, and not under the statute. of Dale Alford to a Seat in the 86th Congress perhaps the most prominent one that In that proceeding there is no contestant to Pursuant to House Resolution 1, July 28, comes to the mind of all of us is the case serve the notice of contest prescribed by the 1959.") There are at least two additional of statute; there are no parties to serve notices precedents, however, which indicate that it our former colleague Brooks Hays, in to take depositions, or to examine or cross­ would be unsafe for the noncandidate to rely which his opponent did not contest it examine witnesses; no parties who have it in solely on a petition to the House and suggest but an individual was contesting it, and their power, by their acts, omissions, stipula­ that he should also proceed under the provi­ a full investigation was made by the tions, admissions, waivers, or laches, to dis­ sions of the statute. House Committee on Administration. pose of the questions and interests involved; Five months after an election in South Mr. CLEVELAND. The answer is yes. no parties into whose hands the law intrusts Carolina in which none of five candidates in­ I have two briefs prepared by the Library the fate of the controversy. In that proceed­ stituted a contest, the mayor of Charleston of Congress. Both of these briefs will be ing there is no contest, or deposition inter who was not a candidate filed charges with partes, or stipulation inter partes, in the the House alleging violations of the Federal inserted in the RECORD under my general sense of the provisions of the revised and State corrupt practices acts, in promis­ right to include extraneous matter. I statutes. To that proceeding the provisions ing Federal offices and in the receipt and ex­ will discuss briefly these two briefs. of the revised statutes have no applicability. penditure of large sums of money for which Mr. KEOGH. Mr. Speaker, will the Those provisions are framed clearly and dis­ no accounting was made, and prayed that gentleman yield? tinctly for actions inter partes." (Halbert E. the charges be investigated and if substan­ Mr. CLEVELAND. I yield to the gen­ Paine. "A Treatise on the Law of Elections," tiated that the House expel the successful tleman from New York for a question. pp. 837-838, Washington, D.C., 1888.) candidate. The report of the committee to Despite the logic in the observations of which the petition was referred held that the Mr. KEOGH. The gentleman men­ Paine, the language of section 201 is broad m ayor had been guilty of laches in not in­ tioned the contest with regard to Brooks enough to embrace challenges made by any stituting a proceeding to contest the seat. Hays. Was not tha·t an investigation person as well as by a candidate who seeks The mayor "could, and we think should, have that was under a special resolution of a seat and there are precedents which indi­ filed a protest in the nature of a contest and the House Committee on Administration cate that the statute was intended to be in­ within the time prescribed by the statute. and not under the general law regarding terpreted broadly. Had he fil~d his contest within the time pre­ the matter of elections? The answer is An interesting discussion on the intent of scribed by the statute, a method of taking yes or no. Was not the Brooks Hays the statute took place on the floor of the testimony would have been provided for and House in connection with a Maryland elec­ the sitting Member would have been given an contest a special resolution adopted by tion. Within 30 days, as required by the opportunity to have known the nature and the House, and it was not under the gen­ statute, a defeated candidate served notice cause of the accusations, the right to answer eral laws regarding contested elections? on a sitting Member. Before any evidence thereto, and to examine and cross-examine Mr. CLEVELAND. I will answer the was taken, however, the defeated candidate the witnesses" (cited in 6 Cannon, sec. 78). gentleman's language and not yield fur­ also petitioned the House to investigate the The House adopted the committee's recom­ ther. election on the ground that it had been car­ mendation that the charges filed be dis­ The contested election was not brought ried out by fraud and violence. In his peti­ missed. by Brooks Hays. It was brought by a tion, he emphasized that he was not claim­ In another case there was some question ing the seat for himself but sought rather to about whether a notice of contest had been gentleman from Arkansas by the name have the House investigate his allegations of served within the 30 days required by the of Mr. John F. Wells. I will not yield fraud and violence and conclude that no statute. The committee held, however, that further. valid election had taken place. His petition the notice had been filed in time but that it These two briefs from the Congres­ was endorsed by several reputable citizens was defective because it failed to allege that sional Library, which will appear here­ of the district. The petition was considered the claimant was a candidate for Congress, or after in the RECORD, both state that not by the Committee on Elections and the ma­ a voter in the district, or that he had any only a defeated candidate but any person jority of the committee found no reason for interest in the result of the election (6 Can­ extraordinary action by the House and, while non, sec. 97) . may institute such a contest under the conceding that the House had the power to The precedents would seem to indicate not contested-elections law. take such action despite the statute, recom­ only that a noncandidate may but will some­ The two briefs are as follows: mended that the petitioner be required to times be required to follow the procedures THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, proceed with the taking of testimony under set forth in the statute. Washington, D.C., December 23, 1964. the procedure set forth in the statute. They VINCENT A. DOYLE, [Provided at the request of Mr. CLEVELAND] agreed that this was not a personal contest Legislative Attorney. of an election ·but rather a popular remon­ From: American Law Division. strance of its validity. Subject: House of Representatives Election THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, Contest: Must a noncandidate proceed The minority considered that the statute Washington, D.O., December 8, 1964. under 2 U.S.C. 201? was intended to apply only to a personal [Provided at the request of Mr. CLEVELAND] contest initiated by one claiming a seat and Section 201 of title 2 of the United States From: American Law Division. Code provides that whenever any person in­ that the appropriate remedy was to give the Committee on Elections the power to send Subject: Challenges to seating Members of tends to contest an election he must give the House of Representatives. notice in writing of his intention to contest for persons and papers, etc., in order to in­ vestigate· the election. Reference is made to your request for ma­ to the Member whose seat he intends to terial on challenging a Member-elect's right contest. The notice must specify the · One of the most telling arguments against to his seat in the House. Enclosed is a copy grounds on which he intends to rely and the minority contention that the statute was of a memorandum of September 17, 1964, on must be given within thirty days of the date intended to apply only to one claiming a the subject. on which the result of the election is deter­ seat was made by Mr. Washburn, of Maine, Additional information as requested, is as mined. Subsequent sections require the immediately before he moved the previous question: follows: Member to answer the notice within thirty 1. Copy of, "Recent Cases in Which a Mem­ days of service, set forth the procedures for "If it [the minority contention] be right, ber-elect of the House of Representatives taking testimony, and require that all testi­ then an individual who contests a seat has Was Asked To Stand Aside Until His Con­ mony be taken within ninety days from the only to get some friend to send in a memo­ tested Election Has Been Investigated," day on which the answer is served on the rial making a contest for him, and the House Mollie z. Margolin, American Law Division, contestant. must order the testimony to be taken at the December 30, 1958. Perhaps the first observation to make expense of the Union, and to be brought here 2. Copy of Record of House Contested-Elec­ about these provisions of the Code is that outside the law of 1851" (which is now em­ tion Oases, 73d Congress (Mar. 9, 1933) they in no way limit the authority of the braced in 2 U.S.C. 201-226). through 85th Congress (Aug. 30, 1957). House under its constitutional power to be The proposition of the minority was dis­ 3. Copy of Record of House Contested-Elec­ the judge of the elections, re·turns and quali­ agreed to and the House adopted the reso- tion Cases, 1951-60. fications of its own Members. The House 1u tion of the majority "that it is inexpedi­ 4. Copy of pages 9364-9365 of No. 81 CON­ can and frequently does ignore these statu­ ent to grant the prayer of the memorialist GRESSIONAL RECORD, August 19, 1937, listing tory requirements. for the appointment of a committee to take House contested-election cases from 1907 to Perhaps the second observation to make testimony." (Debate reported in the Con­ 1937. is that some authorities consider these statu­ gressional Globe, 35th Con., 1st sess. at pp. 5. Copy of "Cases of Congressmen Who tory provisions inapplicable to challenges 725-735, 745-746, Feb. 16-17, 1858.) Were Admitted to Membership While Not 954 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE January 19, 1965 Possessing Constitutional Qualifications," Baker had not received a majority of the Members-elect to be appointed to committees Legislative Reference Service, 1942. votes. The committee dismissed the case for before taking the oath (see, Hinds', supra, 6. Copy of Resume of House Contested­ lack of evidence. vol. IV, sec. 4477; sec. 4479, 59th Cong., 1905; Election Cases, 40th Congress (1867) to 51st 6. First Congress, case of New Jersey Mem­ 4489, 59th Cong., 1905; 4481, 57th Cong., 1902; Congress (1891), Legislative Reference serv­ bers, 1789 (Clarke and Hall, "Cases of Con­ 4482, 57th Cong., .1903), and they may even ice, 1941. tested Elections," U.S. House of Representa­ be appointed to chairmanships (Representa­ In addition to the foregoing, further in­ +,ives, 1789, 1834, p. 38). Petitions from sun­ tive Melville Bull, of Rhode Island, as chair­ formation includes--- dry citizens of New Jersey complaining of man of the Committee of Accounts, 57th (A) Instances of initiation of contested­ lllegality in the election of the New Jersey Cong., 1902, IV Hinds', sec. 4481), but they election cases in the House by others than Members to Congress were received, as well cannot vote until sworn in (Hinds', supra, the contestant: as petitions favoring the validity of the elec­ vol. IV, sec. 4477). 1. While there is no explicit statutory au­ tion. It was determined that all Members (D) Exclusion of Member-elect before he thority or rule of the House relating to the were entitled to their seats. is given the oath: The House has deter­ initiation of contested election cases by 7. Fourth Congress, case of mined that it can vote, by majority vote, others than a defeated candidate, the House John Swanwick, 1795 (Clarke and Hall, supra., to exclude a Member-elect, before he has has long recognized this practice. In the p. 112). Petitions of citizens and electors of taken the oath where he might have been South Carolina case of Richards. Whaley, in were received complaining of guilty of the violation of a criminal statute, the 63d Congress (1913), the House Com­ the election of John Swanwick: The House or of disloyalty, even though he might pos­ mittee on Elections, No. 1, described, in its seated Swanwick upon a failure to support sess the constitutional qualifications (see report, the four instances in which the House the allegations contained in the petition. case of Brigham H. Roberts, 56th Cong., could consider contested-election cases. The 8. Eighty-sixth Congress, Arkansas case of 1899, charged with polygamy, Hinds', supra, committee stated (Cannon's Precedents of Dale Alford, 1959 (committee print, Subcom­ vol. I, secs. 474-480); see also the case of the House of Representatives, vol. VI, sec. 78, mittee on Elections, Committee on House Ad­ B. F. Whittemore, of South Carolina, who on p. 111): ministration, July 28, 1959, p. 3, letter of being reelected to the same House from "(a) The House may adjudicate the ques­ John F. Wells, of Little Rock, Ark., Dec. 3, which he had resigned to escape expulsion tion of the right to seat in either of the four 1958, complaining of irregularities in write­ for bribery, was excluded from taking the following cases: in votes and use of stickers in the election of oath and his s·eat (Hinds', supra, vol. I, sec. " ( 1) In the case of a con test between the Dale Alford). The House seated Mr. Alford 464, 41st Cong., 1870; see also, ch. XV of contestee and the returned Member of the on September 8, 1959 (H. Rept. 1172). Hinds', vol. I). House instituted in accordance with the pro­ Also to be noted, is the statement by the (E) Instances involving questioning of visions of law. House Committee on Elections, in the case prlma facie credentials: Although the House " ( 2) In the case of a protest or memorial of Reeder v. Whitfield, 34th Congress, March generally does not refrain from ordering the filed by an elector of the district concerned. 5, 1856 (D. W. Bartlett, "Cases of Contested oath to be administered, where credentials " ( 3) In the case of the protest or memorial Elections in Congress," 1834-65, pp. 189- indicate a prima facie election of a Member­ filed by any other person. 190) in which the committee referred to the elect (see attached memorandum), it has "(4) On motion of a Member of the power of the House to initiate election in­ declined to admit on prima facie showing House." vestigations on its own; "this House needs where elections and credentials appeared In this particular case, the protest was no parties in court, or names in the record, defective. initiated by the mayor of Charleston, who to guard its own rights and privileges; nor In the 38th Congress, in 1863, the adminis­ filed charges of the violation of the Federal any extrinsic action to quicken it in the ex­ tering of the oath was postponed in the case and State corrupt practices acts, some 5 ·ercise of the exclusive power to judge of the of three Members-elect from Louisiana months after the election. The committee election, returns, and qualifications of those (A. P. Field, Thomas Cottman, and Joshua held that since the protest had not been filed who claim seats on this floor; and they may Baker) on the ground that their credentials within 30 days after the determination of the institute, and often have instituted, investi­ had been signed by a possibly specious Gov­ result of the election as required by law (2 gations of. the rights of Members to seats, ernor and that no pretense of an election U.S.C. 201) the matter was not one of an elec­ without any contestant at all. It is not only had ever been held (Hinds', supra, vol. I, tion contest but of the expulsion of a Member their right, but their duty, to see that no one sec. 589). for ineligibility. shall occupy a seat on this floor whose title In another instance, where the credentials The case was dismissed for lack of proof is imperfect, and to investigate of their own of a Member-elect indicated that he had of the charges. notion, whenever there ls reasonable doubt been elected before the resignation of his 2. Nineteenth Congress, Pennsylvania case cast upon the case." predecessor took effect, objection was made of John Sergeant, 1828 (Hinds' "Precedents of (B) Right of Member-elect to vote prior and the oath was not administered until the House of Representatives,'' vol. I, sec. to procedure for administering the oath. new credentials were produced (Hinds', 555). A tie having resulted at the general Since the status of all Members-elect ls supra, vol. I, sec. 596, Representative Conner, election, a second election was held in which similar at the start of a Congress, all may of Iowa, 56th Cong., 1900). Sergeant was the winner. Citizens presented participate in the vote for the Speaker and The House, at times, has denied the oath memorials purporting to show that Sergeant's before the oath is administered generally by to two persons who appeared with conflict­ opponent had won the first election, but the the Speaker (see instance reported in the ing credentials which cast doubt on the memorials were dismissed on the theory that 16th Cong., Hinds', supra, vol. I, secs. 2 and 4, right of either to the seat (see, Hinds', supra, whatever rights the parties had acquired as 1820). vol. I, sec. 459, Georgia case of Wimpy and a result of the first election had been volun­ In one instance, those who had not been Christy, 40th Cong., 1868). But, where two tarily relinquished. Sergeant was admitted sworn in with the other Members-elect, but claimants have credentials in apparently due to his seat. had been asked to stand aside, were per­ form, the House has directed the administra­ 3. Fourth Congress, case of mitted to vote on the previous question in tion of the oath to the one whom the Clerk Joseph Bradley Varnum, 1796 (Hinds', supra, respect to a motion to refer their credentials had enrolled (Hinds', supra, vol. I, sec. 613, vol. I, sec. 763). In February 1796, me­ to the Committee on Elections (Hinds', Oregon case of Shiel v. Thayer, 37th Cong.• morials were presented from sundry citizens supra, vol. I, sec. 142, 41st Cong., 1869) . 1861). and electors of the Second District of Massa~ However, the names of Members-elect who ROBERT L. 'TIENKEN, chusetts complaining of the "undue elec­ have not been sworn in are not entered on Legislative Attorney. tion and return" of Joseph B. Varnum and the roll from which the yeas and nays are Mr. Speaker, the briefs make it clear saying that the seat be declared vacant. called for entry on the Journal (see, Hinds', The House, accepting a report that charges of supra, vol. V, sec. 6048, 59th Cong., 1906). that not only can a noncandidate con­ lllegal voting were unfounded, seated In this situation, the Speaker distinguished test under the contested elections law Varnum. between the organization of the House from but, if he fails to do so, he does so at his 4. Twenty-sixth Congress, Pennsylvania the Clerk's roll, by statute (2 U.S.C. 26) peril. · case of Ingersoll v. Naylor, 1839 (Hinds', wherein all Members-elect who are listed on Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, will supra, vol. I, sec. 803) . In December 1839 the the Clerk's roll may participate, and the the gentleman yield? House decided that as between two cla.iman ts state of events after organization and ad­ to to a seat from Pennsylvania, that Naylor ministration of the oath whereby the yeas Mr. CLEVELAND. I yield the should be seated. In late January 1840 a and nays are called pursuant to the Consti­ gentleman. petition of citizens and electors from the tution. In the latter case, when the House Mr. GOODELL. I wonder if the gen­ Pennsylvania district was presented com­ has been organized, the roll contains only tleman from New York would, in the plaining of fraud and illegality in the elec­ the names of those who have taken the light of his comments, agree with them tion of Naylor. The House, after an investi­ oath. Since such Members-elect are not en­ to support a resolution to have such an gation, accepted the report of the committee tered on the rolls, they are not counted in investigation in this case. seating Naylor. the determination of a quorum (see Can­ 5. Twenty-eighth Congress, Massachusetts non's "rrecedents of the House of Repre­ Mr. KEOGH. That point obviously is case of , 1840 (Hinds', supra, vol. sentatives," vol. VIII, sec. 3122, 63d Cong., not relevant here. I, sec. 808). In February 1840 a memorial was 1913). Mr. GOODELL. It seems to me it is presented from citizens and electors of the (C) Other rights of Members-elect before awfully relevant. We want to have the Sixth District of Massachusetts alleging that taking the oath: The House has permitted facts brought out. January 19, 1965 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 955 Mr. KEOGH. The issue here is simply So what we are doing if we adopt this in this House, if the contest were brought that the House will abide by the very resolution is slamming the door shut for in due time. clear precedents governing this kind of all time on this particular case. Whether I wish to quote from the statute. I situation. this House wishes to do that is up to the have already quoted from the precedent Mr. CLEVELAND. Mr. Speaker, I House. Certainly I will respect the will of the Kirwan case. I say to the gen­ have not yielded to the gentleman from of the majority but I am sure that every tleman that it was intended that this New York. Member, including the Member from the case be limited to those who participated Mr. KEOGH. The gentleman from 25th District, must feel that this matter in the election, to one of the candidates New York asked me a question and should be at least be considered by a in the election. yielded to me. committee and that there should be full I will read the last section, section 226 Mr. GERALD R. FORD. Mr. Speak­ and free discussion of it. The com­ of title 2 of the United States Code, re­ er, will the gentleman yield? mittee might well come back with a find­ lating to the matter of getting financial Mr. CLEVELAND. I yield to the ing that completely exonerates the gen­ help. gentleman. tleman in question. If, indeed, the com­ This is what the section says: Mr. GERALD R. FORD. First let mittee should so find that is fine, but I No contestee or contestant for a seat in me say I am very grateful for the time do not think we ought to slam the door the House of Representatives-- put in on this matter by the gentleman shut at this time before a committee has What does that mean-"contestant for from New York [Mr. GOODELL] and the even had an opportunity to consider it, a seat in the House of Representatives"? the parties heard and the evidence pre­ gentleman from New Hampshire [Mr. shall be paid exceeding $2,000 for expenses CLEVELAND]. I think they have gone into sented. in election contests. the matter sufficiently to indicate very The SPEAKER. The time of the gen­ clearly that our election laws on the Fed­ tleman has expired. I say that the Congress never intended eral level need a thorough analysis. Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I yield to give unqualified authority, pellmell, Much time has passed since the enact­ myself such time as I may require. under this statute, to individuals, to good ment of existing legislation and it seems Mr. Speaker, the most important issue people or to bad people, to contest any to me that it is very pertinent for us to here is to understand just what proce­ Member's seat, for good reason or other­ update these laws to take into considera­ dures may be used and under what cir­ wise. tion conditions that have developed over cumstances and by whom. I say that this statute, which places a the years in cases coming before the In this case, if we followed the recom­ burden on the contested Member, is one House such as those that have been dis­ mendations of the gentleman from New which should be narrowly construed and cussed here today. I would strongly urge Hampshire, we would be opening up to which was narrowly construed in the such action be taken by the House and by anybody or to any number of individuals, Kirwan case. the other body during this session of the for valid or for spurious reasons, the I read from a letter of December 21, Congress. right to proceed under these statutes, to written by Mr. Frankenberry to the dis­ Mr. CLEVELAND. I wish the Mem­ contest the election of any Member of tinguished chairman of the Committee bers to know before they vote on this the House. These statutes place bur­ on House Administration: resolution that the second of the afore­ densome obligations on any contestee This is to advise that I will proceed under certain sections of the statute. Service sub­ said briefs provided me by the Library of and should not be construed to open up penas will demand the production of all rec­ Congress not only states that it is clear the opportunity for just anyone to harass ords of expenditures, checks, drafts, pledges, that the House has long recognized the a Member of Congress or to impede the and so forth, insofar as gifts are concerned, practice of permitting a noncandidate to operations of the House. as well as the nature, manner, and purpose bring one of these actions under the con­ Other remedies are available to the of all expenditures relating to the Ottinger tested elections law, but it then cites public generally and to Members of the campaign. eight specific cases-eight specific cases House. Any individual or any group of Mr. Speaker, any Member can be re­ where this was permitted. individuals has a right to petition the quired by anybody anywhere in the Time will not permit me to read you Congress of the United States. Any country, if the position of the gentleman all the cases cited but I will tell you this, Member of the House has a right to in­ from New Hampshire and the gentleman and it is very important: One of these troduce a resolution at any time, calling from New York is followed in the use of cases came up in a situation where a non­ for the investigation of any election. In this statute, to be placed under such a contestant had not proceeded under the the ordinary course of events, such a res­ burden. This statute should, I repeat, contested elections law and he was olution would be referred to the Com­ be narrowly construed, as it was nar­ thrown out of court, so to speak, because mittee on House Administration, and rowly construed, and as the language he had failed to proceed under this law. thereafter to the Subcommittee on Elec­ which I have read indicates it is to be In other words, if you do not proceed un­ tions, for proper investigation or hear­ construed. Otherwise, I repeat, any in­ der this law, you may be thrown out. ings, as that committee or as the House dividual or group of individuals, for good Here was the reason behind that, and I might deem necessary .under the cir­ reason or bad, could tie up every Mem­ think this will interest the Members. cumstances. ber in the House of Representatives by I quote from my first brief on page 4: What this statute provides-and I say requiring every Member to answer to One of the most telling arguments against it refers to the defeated candidate-is subpenas, to submit evidence, to call wit­ the minority contention that the statute that prior to going to the House any de­ nesses, to examine witnesses, and what­ was intended to apply only to one claiming feated candidate may go before any not. If this were allowed it would im­ a seat was made by Mr. Washburn of Maine court, mayor, or other official mentioned pede the legislative process and interfere immediately before he moved the previous in the statute, obtain evidence, have sub­ question. I quote Mr. Washburn of Maine, with this House in the performance of its "If it (that is the minority contention) be penas issued, call in witnesses, and ob­ duties. right then an individual who contests a tain documents; all this ultimately to be This was never intended by this stat­ seat has only to get some friend to send in referred to the Clerk of the House for ute. There is nothing within the action a memorial making a contest for him and disposition by the House. which we are taking today which pre­ the House must order testimony to be taken Further than that, to construe this vents any Member, as was done in the at the expense of the Union, and to be statute as the gentleman from New York Hays case, from filing a resolution and brought here outside the law of ~851 (which would have us construe it would enable having it submitted to the Committee on is now embraced in 2 U.S.C. 201-226). a Member to be challenged by any num­ House Administration for investigation The rationale behind this was that ber of individuals, one challenging on or for hearings. There is nothing in the under the contested election law the con­ one ground and another on another, one resolution which I have offered today testant bears the expense of the whole on the ground of citizenship or residence, which will prevent any Member of this matter of taking depositions and gather­ another on the ground of excessive cam­ House from doing that or which will pre­ ing testimony. That is the reasoning paign expenditures, and so on ad in­ vent any number of electors from the behind it. That reasoning clearly speci­ finitum. 25th U.S. Congressional District or any fies the fact that this law not only can If the contention of the gentleman is citizens therein from petitioning the be used by a noncontestant but it indeed correct, there is no limit to the number Congress to proceed with an investiga­ must be used. of individuals who could contest any seat tion. The question here is should we 956 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE January 19, 1965 give the powers conferred by this statute, section that specifically says any person olution at any time; nobody questions to any one but a candidate for a seat in can contest an election. Actually my that. the House? Surely, we would not do that position is as I have said earlier the The gentleman undertakes to separate when there are other methods of pro­ same as expressed in connection with the the section dealing with limitations of ceeding under election praC'tices, laws, Mississippi case by the distinguished ma­ expenses of contests from other sections and customs, such as by memorial, peti­ jority leader. in the law. If I understand him correct­ tion, or resolution. Certainly Mr. Frank­ The SPEAKER. The time of the gen­ ly he thinks a contestant under that enberry has neither under the law nor tleman from New Hampshire has expired. section must have been a candidate the precedents the right without pre­ Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speak.er, I yield whereas in other sections he need not vious action by this House to proceed such time as he may desire to the gen­ have been. I do not follow this argu­ under the statute to which the gentleman tleman from Texas [Mr. BURLESON]. ment. For instance, under title II, makes reference. Mr. BURLESON. Mr. Speaker, the United States Code, section 206, we find Mr. CLEVELAND. Mr. Speaker, will distinguished majority leader has clear­ this language: the gentleman yield me 5 minutes to ly, and I think beyond reasonable doubt, When any contestant or returned Mem­ answer his remarks? stated the precedents and statutes cor­ ber is desirous of obtaining testimony re­ Mr. ALBERT. I will yield the gentle­ rectly and as they have been applied specting a contested election- man 2 minutes, because I want to yield historically by this House of Represent­ atives. Now, even though we talk about Certainly the plain inference here, it to other Members. seems to me, is that the contestant is Mr. CLEVELAND. Mr. Speaker, the the construction of the statutes in their someone who is trying to get a seat which remarks of the· distinguished majority narrow sense and the precedents which he lost or which purportedly he lost in leader are, of course, persuasive, but the are involved, there are other fundamen­ tals involved. Incidentally, I believe the an election. fact remains that the precedents that Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, will the .were ci.ted in my brief are clearly against precedents, if the gentleman from New gentleman yield? him. I think the membership should Hampshire will observe, hold in some, Mr. ALBERT. I yield. realize this. If a distinguished New if not all, cases, in which the contest was Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, it seems York lawyer such as Mr. Kiendl, who brought by a third party, that the con­ to me that what the gentleman is saying advised Mr. Frankenberry on this mat­ testant be seated instead of a Member is that the brief from the Law Reference ter, read this law as he did, and pro­ who by this House had been permitted Service is completely wrong in saying ceeded as he did, and if the Library of to take a seat temporarily. that there are all these precedents for Congress tells me, as they have done, These precedents are a little like apples a noncandidate to contest an election. that to proceed under this law is to pro­ and bananas. They just do not mix so One of the most eminent counsels in ceed as Mr. Frankenberry did, then I you cannot tell them apart. Even , and in the country, the say to the distinguished majority leader though the precedents are clear and the gentleman inferentially says, was wrong where is this swarm of "crackpots" that statutes are very explicit, there is such in his interpretation of this law. he talks about plaguing us with all of a thing as equity. Every lawyer in this Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, may I ask these nuisance suits? Of course, the Chamber knows the old English adage whether this distinguished counsel and answer to that is this: He can cite none that, if I may paraphrase, says that he I am sure he is a distinguished lawyer because there have been none. The pur­ who seeks equity must do so with cleian was employed by the contestant in this pose of this law is to safeguard the peo­ hands. This is a unilaterar action. case? Lawyers express opinions on both ple of the United States against a sit­ How could this House in its collective sides of legal issues. This House, not the uation where the defeated candidate judgment determine whether or not Law Reference Service of the Library of might not either have the heart or the equity is being done when the other Congress nor any individual lawyer any­ will or the desire to contest an elec­ party to the election is not a party to where in the country, has the responsi­ tion which clearly should be contested this attempt at contest? bility of determining the qualifications of for the common good and for the cause So, Mr. Speaker, as the majority its Members and the interpretation of of good government. I never would sub­ leader has so ably and aptly said, anyone statutes dealing with election contests scribe to an interpretation of this law could bring these proceedings under involving its Members. that takes away the right of a freeborn prejudice, under bias, under some scheme Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, will the American in a congressional district to surreptitiously-however it may be-to gentleman yield further? come to Congress and proceed under our cause embarrassment on a duly certi­ Mr. ALBERT. I yield further to the laws to question our elections and I fied Member of this body without his gentleman from New York. question whether the majority ~ishes to having opportunity of challenging ac­ Mr. GOODELL. I do know that this do that. tions on the other side. This is not to say counsel is distinguished. I do not know Mr. ALBERT. If the gentleman will that two wrongs make a right but it the terms of his employment but he was yield to ine, I am just as interested in does say that he who demands equity apparently employed by Mr. Franken­ honest elections and in proper proce­ must also show equity on his part. berry who is the contestant or the al­ dures and in preserving the dignity of More importantly, Mr. Speaker, should leged contestant here. the House as anyone. The only question the people of the 25th District of the There .has apparently been $167,000 is whether citizen X should be entitled State of New York be denied proper or more spent by the members of a con­ to use a statute which on its face says­ representation in the Congress on this gressional candidate's family in rbehalf and if the gentleman will read it, I sort of allegation? It becomes a serious of his candidacy. It seems to me that think he can read it for himself-- matter should that happen. what the gentleman from Oklahoma is Mr. CLEVELAND. I have read it and So I join the distinguished majority saying is that the only circumstance reread it and the statute says, "any leader in this effort to clarify this mat­ under which this can be investigated is person." ter and once and for all, so far as the by an affirmative vote by the majority of Mr. ALBERT. If the gentleman will House of Representatives is concerned, this House. There is a law with refer­ listen to this, it says: "no contestee"-­ put it behind us. ence to contested elections designed to Mr. CLEVELAND. That is the last Mr. ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, will the see to it that the American public is pro­ section of the law. gentleman yield? tected. Certainly enforcement of that Mr. ALBERT. Section 226: "or con­ Mr. BURLESON. Certainly. law should not depend on a majority vote testant for a seat in the House of Repre­ Mr. ALBERT. Reference has been in the House. The law is so written to sentatives shall be paid exceeding made to the Hays-Alford matter. I call see ito it that there is complete honesty $2,000." attention to the fact that in the CON­ and integrity in these elections. Mr. CLEVELAND. That is precisely GRESSIONAL RECORI>, volume 105, part 1, Mr. ALBERT. The House of Repre­ correct, and the intent of that is clearly page 14, a resolution was adopted by the sentatives cannot escape the final re­ that any reimbursement will be confined House which provided that the question sponsibility in this matter. Under no either to a seated or to a defeated Mem­ of the final right of Dale Alford to his circumstances can the House of Repre­ ber. It simply limits the amount of re­ seat in the 80th Congress ·be referred to sentatives escape its responsibility. It is imbursement of expenses to those two the Committee on House Administration, our job and our duty to make the deter­ classes. It does not govern the first et cetera. The House can move on a res- mination here. January 19, 1965 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE 957 Mr. Speaker, I move the previous ques­ NAYS-102 Mr. White of Idaho with Mr. Bow. tion. Adair Dickinson Moore Mrs. H~nsen of Washington with Mr. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Anderson, Ill. Dole Morse Wydler. Andrews, Duncan, Tenn. Mosher Mr. Davis of Georgia with Mr. Minshall. Oklahoma moves the previous question. Glenn Edwards, Ala . Nix Mr. Jones of Alabama with Mr. Michel. The previous question was ordered. Andrews, Ellsworth O'Konski N.Dak. Erlenborn Pelly Mr. Leggett with Mr. Harsha. The SPEAKER. The question is on Arends Findley Quie Mr. Landrum with Mr. Poff. the resolution. Baldwin Ford, Gerald R. Quillen Mrs. Griffiths .with Mr. Pirnie. Mr. GOODELL. Mr. Speaker, on that Bates Frelinghuysen Reid, Ilil. Mr. Randall with Mr. Hosmer. Belcher Fulton, Pa. Reid, N.Y. Mr. Teague of Texas with Mr. Don Clausen. I demand the yeas and nays. Bell Goodell Reinecke Mr. Stephens with Mr. Devine. The yeas and nays were ordered. Berry Griffin Rhodes, Ariz. Betts Grover Robison Mr. !chord with Mr. Martin of Massachu- The question was taken; and there Bray Gubser Roudebush setts. were-yeas 245, nays 102, answered Brock Gurney Rumsfeld Mr. Gray with Mr. Tupper. "present" 3, not voting 84, as follows: Broomfield Halleck Ryan Mr. Everett with Mr. Reifel. Brown, Ohio Hansen, Idaho Schneebeli Mr. McDowell with Mr. Morton. [Roll No. 6) Broyhilil., N.O. Harvey, Mich. Schweiker Mr. O'Hara of Michigan with Mr. Clancy. YEAS-245 Broyhill, Va. Ho,rton Shriver Mr. Wright with Mr. Watkins. Buchanan Hutchinson Skubitz Abbitt Gibbons Olson, Minn. · Burton, Utah Johnson, Pa. Smith, Calif. Mr. Van Deerlin with Mr. Callaway. Abernethy Gilbert O'Neill, Mass. Byrnes, Wis. Keith Smith, N.Y. Adams Gilligan Passman Carter Kun kel Sprin ger The result of the vote was announced Addabbo Gon1,;1;alez Patman Cederberg Laird Stafford as above recorded. Albert Grabowski Patt en Clawson , Del Langen St anton A motion to reconsider was laid on the Anderson, Green, Oreg. Pepper Clevela n d Latt a Talcott table. Tenn. Green, Pa. Perldns Con able Lipscomb Teague, Calif. Andrews, Greigg Philbin Cont e McClory Thom.son, Wis. George W. GTider Pickle Cramer McCulloch Ut t Annunzio Hagan , Ga. Pike Cunnin gham McDade Whalley ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR Ashbrook Hagen, Calif. Poage Curtin McEwen Widnall AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT Ashley Haley Pool Curtis MacGregor Wilson, Bob Ashmore Hall Price Dague Mailliard Wyatt TO MAJORITY LEADER AND MI­ Aspinall Halpern Pucinski Davis, Wis. Martin, Ala. Younger NORITY LEADER Bandstra Hamilton Purcell Derwin ski Mize Beckworth Hanley · Race ~~· ALBERT. Mr. Speaker, I offer a Bennett Han ma Redlin ANSWERED "PRESENT"-3 privileged resolution

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Retirement of Frank Fuller crosses that Frank bore with patience and the Vietnamese people the long su:ff ering fortitude was a broken leg which interfered and economic devastation of continued with his hunting and fishing. EXTENSION OF REMARKS I join his many friends in wishing him warfare. It would also avoid the con­ tinued financial drain and loss of life OF many years of happiness in his well-earned retirement. now being suffered by the United States. HON. A. WILLIS ROBERTSON Few Americans favor an immediate OF VIRGINIA and unqualified pullout. I believe the IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES Debate on U.S. Policy on Vietnam commitment we have given the leaders of South Vietnam and the concern we Tuesday, January 19, 1965 EXTENSION OF REMARKS have for the people there would make it impossible for the United States to with­ Mr. ROBERTSON. Mr. President, I OF ask unanimous consent to have printed draw immediately. Yet it is not too soon in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD a state­ HON. GEORGE McGOVERN to discuss the terms on which a with­ ment by me concerning Frank H. Fuller, OF SOUTH DAKOTA drawal might ultimately be possible, and of the Associated Press. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES to assess the long-term requirements for There being no objection, the state­ the settlement of an issue which is basi­ Tuesday, January 19, 1965 ment was ordered to be printed in the cally political, not military. During the RECORD, as follows: Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. President, a present struggle, we should not remain silent, with bated breath, as it were, STATEMENT BY SENATOR ROBERTSON continuing and, in my judgment, very constructive debate, on U.S. policy on waiting for a sudden resolution of the Along with many other Virginians, I am problem, which is most unlikely. going to miss Frank H. Fuller, who ls retir­ Vietnam is underway. Right now, I be­ ing from the Associated Press, after 38 years lieve, there exists "what amounts to a Rather, we should use, here in Congress as chief of its Richmond bureau. deadlock between the state of South and throughout the country, the exist­ As head of Virginia operations for the Vietnam, aided to an increasing extent ing deadlock to discuss alternative poli­ Associated Press, he has directed with em­ by the United States, and the Vietcong cies and forms of settlement, so that the ciency and speed the distribution of news to guerrillas, aided to an increasing extent American people, as well as the adminis­ many newspapers and radio and television by North Vietnam. It would be difficult, tration, will be better equipped to take stations throughout the State. Newspaper further action at an opportune time. readers seldom get to know the desk men of and probably impossible, for South Viet­ a news-gathering organization, who work namese forces to win a final military vic­ Prolonging the confiict indefinitely could quietly behind the scenes. But these are the tory, since there appears to be a grass only mean continued painful losses for men who see to it that we find out without roots cooperation with the Vietcong both sides. delay what happened a few minutes or a few throughout much of the countryside. On In this connection, Mr. President, a hours ago. the other hand, it would be equally dif­ debate over U.S. policy on Vietnam Mr. Fuller began his career with the Asso­ ficult for the Communist forces to was published in the New York Times ciated Press in the Atlanta bureau in 1923, magazine of January 17. The de­ shortly after his graduation from the Uni­ achieve a final victory over the South Vietnamese, with their strong U.S. mili­ bate was between the Senator from Ore­ versity of Georgia. Before coming to Rich­ gon [Mr. MORSE] and Henry Cabot mond, 4 years later, he served the Associated tary backing. The U.S. forces are un­ Press in Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, and doubtedly able to remain there indefi­ Lodge, former Ambassador to South Louisiana. nitely and to prevent a Communist take­ Vietnam. Both points of view-"with­ In addition to having many contacts with over in that manner; yet there is raised draw now" or "fight on to victory"­ Frank during my 32 years of service in Con­ with increasing frequency the question were presented clearly and cogently. I gress, we had another interest in common­ of whether we might achieve basically ask unanimous consent that this presen­ the love of the out-of-doors and an inborn the same results, over the long run, by a tation be printed following my remarks fondness for duck hunting. One of the negotiated settlement which would spare in the RECORD.