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Crossrail Bill HOUSE OF LORDS Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill 1st Special Report of Session 2007–08 Crossrail Bill Volume II: Evidence Ordered to be printed 19 May 2008 and published 19 August 2008 Published by the Authority of the House of Lords London : The Stationery Office Limited £price HL Paper 112–II CONTENTS IN VOLUME II Page List of Proceedings 19 February 2008 Chairman's Opening Address 1 Promoter's Opening Address 3 General presentation by the Promoters on noise and vibration 16 20 February 2008 General presentation by the Promoters on compensation 33 General presentation by the Promoters on ground settlement 46 26 February 2008 Promoters presentation on people with reduced mobility 59 The Petition of the London Borough of Newham 84 27 February 2008 The Petition of the London Borough of Newham 106 28 February 2008 The Petition of the Cyclists' Touring Club 146 3 March 2008 The Petition of Iver Parish Council, the Ramblers Association and the Open Spaces Society 169 4 March 2008 The Petition of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets 195 The Petition of Mr James Middleton 211 5 March 2008 The Petition of Mr David Saunderson 222 10 March 2008 Promoter’s opening remarks on Spitalfields 249 The Petition of Spitalfields Community Association 259 11 March 2008 The Petition of Selina Mifsud and others 273 The Petition of Nicholas Morse and others 294 The Petition of Selina Mifsud and others 296 The Petition of Spitalfields Community Association 312 12 March 2008 The Petition of Spitalfields Community Association 321 The Petition of Spitalfields Small Business Association Ltd 328 Spitalfields – Settlement Issues 346 Spitalfields – Noise Issues 361 CONTENTS IN VOLUME III Page 13 March 2008 The Petition of the Spitalfields Society 372 General Issues relating to the Spitalfields area 397 Promoter’s closing statement on the settlement issues in the Spitalfields area 420 17 March 2008 The Petition of Kempton Court Residents 427 18 March 2008 Chairman’s Ruling on compliance with the Environmental Impact Directive 85/337/EEC, as amended 451 The Petition of Ms Patricia Jones 454 19 March 2008 The Petition of Canary Wharf Group Plc 488 The Petition of Trustees Of The SS Robin Trust 508 The Petition of the Association of West India Dock Commercial Ship Owners 510 20 March 2008 The Petition of Souzel Properties Ltd 520 The Petition of the City of London Corporation 530 26 March 2008 The Petition of Michael Pritchett 532 1 April 2008 The Petition of London Borough of Bexley 555 The Petition of Mr Roy Carrier 597 2 April 2008 The Petition of Mr Roy Carrier 606 3 April 2008 Statement on the Office of Rail Regulation 618 The Petition of the London Borough of Camden 619 The Petition of David Monro and Adam Scott – The House of St Barnabas- in-Soho 22 April 2008 Promoter's opening address on Crossrail services and operations, the Access Option, general railway industry issues and Bill powers 641 The Petition of Jean Lambert MEP and others 666 The Petition of Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC) 682 23 April 2008 The Petitions of London Borough of Havering, Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea, and Brentwood Borough Council 690 29 April 2008 The Petitions of the Freight Transport Association Ltd; The Rail Freight Group; Freightliner Group Ltd; Mendip Rail Ltd; Quarry Products Association Ltd; Hutchison Ports (UK) Ltd; The Felixstowe Dock & Railway Company; Harwich International Port Ltd; and Maritime Transport Services Ltd 700 CONTENTS IN VOLUME IV Page 30 April 2008 The Petition of Network Rail Infrastructure Ltd 751 Heathrow Western Link 784 The Petition of English Welsh & Scottish Railway Ltd 790 1 May 2008 The Petitions of the Freight Transport Association Ltd; The Rail Freight Group; Freightliner Group Ltd; Mendip Rail Ltd; Quarry Products Association Ltd; Hutchison Ports (UK) Ltd; The Felixstowe Dock & Railway Company; Harwich International Port Ltd; and Maritime Transport Services Ltd 805 The Petition of the Rail Freight Group 833 The Petition of the Trustees of the SS Robin Trust 835 Promoter’s Closing on railway issues 838 2 May 2008 The Petition of Smithfield Market Tenants’ Association 862 6 May 2008 The Petition of Westminster City Council 911 The Petition of Paddington Residents Active Concern on Transport (PRACT) 919 The Petition of Woodseer and Hanbury Residents Association 949 7 May 2008 The Petition of Westbourne Park Villas Residents Association 973 The Petition of Hammerson (Paddington) Limited and Domaine Developments Limited 990 The Petition of Westbourne Park Villas Residents Association 992 The Petition of Mr John Payne 1011 8 May 2008 The Petitions of the Crossrail Coalition of Residents and Petitioners; and the Residents Society of Mayfair & St James's Mayfair Action Group 1031 The Petition of Mr Leo Walters 1074 The Petition of Woodseer and Hanbury Residents Association 1076 Promoter’s Closing statement 1082 Processed: 14-08-2008 19:06:19 Page Layout: LOENEW[ex 1] PPSysB Job: 400396 Unit: PAG1 Minutes of Evidence TAKEN BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON THE CROSSRAIL BILL DAY ONE TUESDAY 19 FEBRUARY 2008 Before: Colville of Culross, V (Chairman) Snape, L Brooke of Alverthorpe, L Young of Norwood Green, L Fookes, B MrDavidElvin QC, MsNathalieLieven QC, MrTimothyMould QC, MrReubenTaylor andMrGwionLewis appeared on behalf of the Promoters. WinckworthSherwood appeared as Agent. Ordered: that Counsel and Parties be called in. 1. CHAIRMAN: This is the first meeting of the principles of the Bill and, although we are not going Select Committee of the House of Lords on the to stop anybody from raising other matters, I have to Crossrail Bill. You will see that we have plaques to tell you that we are bound by the principles of the Bill say who we are and I am not going to go into details and we will not be able to do a great deal to help you. about our backgrounds because you can look us up if you want to. All I can tell you is that we have all been very carefully vetted to see that we have no 4. One of the issues that arose before was the east and interests that would possibly conflict with our ability west terminals for Crossrail. It was suggested that to make a completely impartial decision on the perhaps it should go to Reading and to Ebbsfleet. matters that are going to be raised in front of us. We There is one development about this which has of course have no constituencies like you had with the happened fairly recently on 6 February, and there is Members in the other place. a copy of this document at the back of the room, as indeed there are a lot of documents at the back of the room. At the second reading, the Minister made it 2. The purpose of these sessions will be to listen to the plain that this Bill was not going to contain Petitioners and their agents and make sure that they provisions to extend Crossrail either to Reading or have a full opportunity to present their case within Ebbsfleet or anywhere else other than what is in the the scope of their legitimate interests. They have a Bill. However, on 6 February, the Parliamentary right to be heard and the Promoters are not going to Under-Secretary of State for Transport made a object to any of them being heard. If, however, written ministerial statement which may be of Petitioners want to raise the same point as was raised interest to those who want to take this point. In in Petitions in the House of Commons, we will want relation to the line between Maidenhead and to know what has happened since then because the Reading, the Government is safeguarding a route. As Promoters, I know, have been trying to negotiate agreements and settlements with Petitioners who for the destination of Ebbsfleet, they have not raised matters then and, if there is still something safeguarded it yet, but they are in negotiations with wrong, we would like to know what it is. all concerned, including of course the local authorities, for an equal safeguarding arrangement. I think you may be interested in seeing the text of this, 3. This is a completely fresh set of proceedings and we and it is available to you at the back. come to it totally fresh; it is a new hearing altogether. However, there is perhaps one point, and you will have heard this before in the House of Commons, 5. It would not be done under this Bill, but there is a and that is that this Bill has now received a Second piece of legislation called the Transport and Works Reading in the House of Lords and in the Bill, in one Act 1992 which enables railways and other of the schedules, is a complete list of all the works that infrastructural works to be carried out under an will be authorised under it, the terminals, stations, order system with public inquiries and, if the the shafts; a huge list of things. Those are the Government decided to extend Crossrail in either Processed: 14-08-2008 19:06:19 Page Layout: LOENEW [E] PPSysB Job: 400396 Unit: PAG1 2 committee on the crossrail bill: evidence 19 February 2008 Chairman’s Opening Address direction or both, it would be done under that 8. There used to be an arrangement whereby all legislation and not in this Bill. Petitioners had to put in an appearance on the first day of the Committee’s session. That has been waived and it does not matter if you are not here today, 6. I think the agenda is fairly well fixed.
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