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' .' Scientists to swap notes ~~~ ~. ~ before trial AMAGAZINE FORTHE UNIVERSITY Forensic scientists and pathologists will soon playa more assertive role in Registered by Australia Post - publication No. VBG0435 the legal process, says Professor Stephen Cordner, director of the new NUMBER 5-87 JULY 1, 1987 Victorian Institute of Forensic Pathology. The Forensic Science Society of Aus the new State Coronial Services Centre "Most places tend to be very service tralia is considering an ethic which in in South Melbourne, he is delighted with oriented and they don't have the-time or cludes consultation before a trial. what he describes as "an absolutely the staff for research. "Even though the lawyers may not ouroose-built facility". "We've got the facilities at the in like it, forensic scientists and path "There's nothing to touch it in stitute and that is going to be one of our ologists are going to work that way." he England, and there are only one or two big tasks." said. places in the United States and Canada Very fundamental things need to be •'The best forensic pathology which could be comparable. looked at, such as the ageing of injuries, evidence relies on the people involved "Forensic medicine owes Monash he said. getting together. University a great debt for its farsighted "We need a more accurate definition "The prosecution pathologist might ness and commitment." of the patterns of injury - at present it not have thought of everything, Victoria would soon have the capacity depends upon a forensic pathologist's although he ot she has tried very hard. to deal with the most difficult cases own assessment. such as the Chamberlain case - in the "For too long it's been left to in "Maybe the defence pathologist could best possible way, he said. point out something beforehand which dividual experience; there's no well might actually lead to the prosecution "The role of the institute in relation recognised body of available informa saying - 'Well, we can't proceed'," to all the issues that are coming up about tion - we're right at Square One as far expert evidence is going to he a very in as a lot of that goes." Consultation could also bring genuine teresting one. Professor Cordner said there was a differences into sharper focus, Pro "We hope to be able to satisfy both need.to be more precise about the fessor Cordner said. prosecution and defence and we must circumstances of death. "It's common to have a lot of time work very hard to make sure we do." , "If someone drops dead in the street, wasted on spurious differences when There. are about 6000 sudden and say, you do a post -mortem examination • Professor Cordner there has been no pre-trial conference." unexpected deaths in Victoria each year. and find out what diseases they suffered Recent events like the Lindy ..About 4500 wUl be perfectly from . Chamberlain case were a perfect exam straightforward uncomplicated natural "One might be heart disease, and you ple of the need for consultation before a deaths, the other 1500 will be murders, say to yourself, well, that is sufficient to ELECTION SONG trial, he said. accidents and suicides," Professor Cor cause death. Professor Cordner, 33, was appointed dner said. "In the absence of anything else it The tumprils are rumbling in May to the foundation Chair of The institute was established by the becomes the cause of death, but there The bastions crumbling Forensic Medicine at Monash, an ap Coroner's Act 1985 (which came into ef could be problems with conclusions bas The currency tumbling Ah,lack-a-day-dee! pointment which also makes him direc fect on 1 June, 1986) as a service, ed on the exclusion of possibilities." tor of the institute. teaching and research organisation. Professor Cordner said research into The farmers are grumbling He graduated MBBS from the Univer It has a resppnsibility "to provide other sciences - such as toxicology, The businessmen mumbling sity of Melbourne in 1977, having also forensic . patholos;y services and relate.d biochemistry, microbiology, serology The foot bailers fumbling obtained a Bachelor of Medical Science services for the State of Victoria". and radiology - was important in com Oh, black miseree! degree and a Diploma in Criminology. It will also provide postgraduate bination with forensic pathology. The pundits are bumbling He has held a lectureship since 1981 in training in forensic pathology, under "Collaboration between the institute Executives stumbling the Department of Forensic Medicine at graduate education, facilities for and the university is limited only by the The typesetters jumbling Guy's Hospital Medical School, Lon medical students and training for people imagination. Oh, melancholee! don, where, in addition to his teaching qualified in the biological sciences, toxi "Being a corporate body we can apply to all sorts of people for research funds, It's all very humbling responsibilities, he assisted in police in cology and forensic science. _ So please vote for me! vestigations of suspicious or homicidal "There is not much research going on which most government-funded institu tions have difficulty doing." deaths. in forensic pathology anywhere in the HECTOR MONRO Although he had no part in planning world," Professor Cordner said. • See story page 2 ~ " (0~~r -' . ~ ~f":..l;. oj .• • An artist's impression of the new State Coronial Services Centre in South Melbourn&. page 2). The building contains coroners' offices, two coroners' courts and administration The Victorian Institute of Forensic Pathology will be housed in the 14,000 square metre areas. The institute has separate facilities, including a mortuary, laboratories, offices, a building, which will be completed in March, 1988. It is on a 1.4 hectare site on the corner of lecture room for 70 people, a conference room, museum and library. It is "an absolutely Kavanagh and Power Streets, 150 metres south of the Victorian Arts Centre (see map, purpose-built facility", says Professor Cordner. 'Death of amember of society is apublic fact' At a subscquenr meeting of the group. " Death of a member of Society is a nounced that the government had ac From August 1982 to February 1985 held in July. 1984. the chairman. Mr cepted these recommendations, and that two members of the Interim Council, pubtic fact and the circumstances Phillips, announced that the Attorney· that surrounded the death and the position of Professor/Director of Professor Schofield and Honorary Pro General had asked him to invite the the new institute would replace the cur whether it could have been avoided fessor Vern Plueckhahn, were closely in group advising the university to con· rent position of Chief Government volved with architects and represen or prevented. through the actions of stitute itself as an Interim Council of a persons or agencies under human Pathologist. tatives of state government departments new Victorian Institute of Forensjc Legislation establishing the Victorian in Ihe design and planning of a new Cor control. are matters within the leg~ Pathology. timate scope of interest of all Institule of Forensic Pathology under,. onial Services Centre and the Victorian The council held its first meeting soon new CoPOner's Act was prepared and as Institute of Forensic Pathology, for members of the community." (On afterwards and prepared a report for the tario Law Reform Commission. sent was given to the Act on December which an allocation of S2S million had Attorney-General which included the 10, 1985. been made by the State Government. Report on the Coroner System in following recommendations: the Province of Ontario. Canada This Act established the position of A site was chosen, and Mr Kennan • That a Victorian Institute of Foren 1971; 25). State Coroner and required that the per laid the foundation stone on 2 June, sic Pathology be formally set up by son who holds the Chair of Forensic 1986. The building should be ready for appropriate legislation; Medicine at Monash University would Each year in metropolitan Melbourne occupancy in April, 1988. • That it be under the control of a also be appointed Director of the between 4500 and 5000 coronial autop director whose authority was state Institute . sies are performed, each requiring tbe • The sHe plan for the State Coronial wide; It also established a Council for the Services Centre in South Melbourne. The most accurate and careful assessment of • That the director should occupy Ihe Institute with representation from bolb lhe cause of dtalb. coroners' offices, eourts and admlnlslratlon Chair of Forensic Medicine at Monash University and the University sre in the left wing: conference rooms, In February 1971, the Coroner's Monash; of Melbourne. "-Ing rooms and the Itbrary are on either Coun Review Committee (established in • That the director's salary be met by At its inaugural mcc1ing on 27 May. side of a galleJy running through the centre; (977) commented on the lack of the Victorian Government. 1986 Ihe council appointed Mr Justice and the Victorian lnatltute of F"""",ic Path qualified pathologists with specialised In December, 1984, Mr Kennan an- Phillips as chairman. ology occupies the wing on the right. training in forensic pathology. In October 1979, an interdepart-. mental committee comprising officers of the state departments of Law. Health, Police, Public Works and Treasury recommended t hat medical and other non·medical scientific staffing, and the functioning of services for the Coroner's ) Court should be the responsibility of the Department of Health within a new complex dedicated to forensic pathology and forensic services for the police. In September 1981, at a meeting with the committee, the then Minister for Health declined to accept responsibility for coronial autopsies, considering that it was a matter for the Attorney General.