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Longacre's Ledger 'The Iournai of'The :frying i£ag{e anahunan Cent Correctors' Society Volume 22.2, Issue #85 www.fly-inclub.org August 2012 The Saint-Gaudens Cent The "Other" Indian Cents The More I Know, The Longacre Sale By Richard Snow By Q. David Bowers the More 1 Realize By Richard Snow Pg. 8 Pg.12 What I DOll 't Kllow Pg. 18 By Charmy Harker Pg.n Eagle Eye Photo Seal Ric 'Snow, the leading expert in Flying E agl ~ and Indian Cents has since 1996 pertonally labeling certifi ed Flying Eagle an? Indian Cents that he deems to be properly graded. We congratulate CAC in th eir success in replicating Rick's idea to all U.S. coins. We are committed to dealing in whole ~.-r:c=~,s 0 !D e , properly graded coins. Please visit us at our web site for more informa tion on Photo Seal or to see our inventory of Photo Sealed coins. '. :1866 'lZ' ~ c .7~ ~ J~,-- \ Eagle Eye , ~ ~ . Rare Coins Knowledge, Fairness, Integrity ~js_~ard Snow P.O. Box 32891 Tucson, AZ 85751 Toll Free 866-323-2646 (520) 498-4615 -.-... -" LM-2878 rick@?indiancent.com 2010 ·Numf( ,· atis (of the Ye ar www.indiancent.com .~Ji ~ . ' ~ [!]):J .." I!l f3R m VflV\ .,. •E[I=i •., ) 1B7 3 DOUBLED UBERTY SNO W- ! MS-ti3BN NGe (P S) F uIl J", l<, t < ; r ~ b¢ l~ Ctt,l" l:l;llI'lC "oery Ie ... 'lu rk]' . T hoe ':Olfl IS ~c tll .i Jl ~ ~ :5 ". '; fiEO, H I It 111:<l1c: b'" ;r~c: ..~ ;31\6. Th,s I I t t:.. klll jj ;:,f til .. I n e ~ UI e cna ~" c: <l......-yOI'l ~ u ..., t h ~ uma t h ", ~ ,)b ~ut t h , . '<_':lt ly ' .... C WI I"H "' ~ ~"' P'C Cl S~V'$} $ 2 5 ,0 00.00 '!IO··, RED. Fufl~ stHICk. Vt l')' f..w m ark s ~ nC: ... •> uJ. ",....S OlJl~ S Y o:1 H l...tOtHI ': d~iI~ !;olO ~n~ m~ g e ,", u Wit h. ~ full••, »- .Ul .. s-c;.U::ll,,«\S t foSl 30 0,; l'IED. Fvl1 s tn k,O!,V .l!r)I ft! .~ milrt..5 l nd ~ ... u u , os-.. ·n " _ S Q ~S ('"5) 50"" " EO, Full u ,.,k" Doub h ,.:! d i ~ r''''!fS..... )~ 1 ~" S "'~ Pl:G'S( 0'Sl .:. O ~ ; I:'.EO. Flltl 't t rike . V. ry re,,, markJ. Lio;: ln .•, )) WAIITLlSl • l~ ~~ "' 5 • B ~ ~ M ~ f AV ORITES . , . ,... to ;n~ I .'\'"1;11'i' V4n [;J t ~ I ~' J ..... t§§q MS.- (: ;:~.D o CGS Visit www.indiancent.com Longacre's Ledger Vol. 22.2 August 2012 Page 2 The Flying Eagle and Indian Cent Collectors' Society Our mission is to gather and dissemin ate information related to James B. Longacre (1794-1869), with emphasis on his work as Chief Engraver of the Mint (1844 -1869) with a primary focus on his Flying Eagle and Indian Cent coinage. Founded 1991 www.fly-inclub.org Club Officers President Chris Pilliod [email protected] Vice President Tim Cartwright [email protected] Secretary Sheldon Freed [email protected] Treasurer Vern Sebby [email protected] State Representatives Chairman W.O. Walker worian @ao1.com Editor. Rick Snow [email protected] Webmaster. Dave Noble [email protected] State Representatives The following individuals have indicated their willingn ess to help promote the club and it 's activities in their state. Arizona Rick Snow Rick @IndianCenLcom Maryl and Larry Steve Lstevel856@aol. com Delaware Jesse Fury, Sr. [email protected] Massachu setts G31y Sj ostedt gsj [email protected] Californ ia Charmy Harker Chann [email protected] Missouri Dave Noble tdn oble @sbcglobal.net California Mark Watson [email protected] Montana M .P. Hamill [email protected] Connecticut Ron Gammill [email protected] Nebraska Quent Han sen [email protected] Florid a Richard Spencer rsinv [email protected] North Carolina Bob Pedloskey bob---'pedl osky@hotma il.com Georgia Norman Thomas ganormt@yaho o.com New York W.O. Walker [email protected] Idaho Marvin Erickson marvscoin @aol.com Penn sylvania Chris Pilliod cpilli od@m sn.com Indiana David Brody dbrod y@gal axyinternet.net Virgini a Darrell Tyler darrell.tyler@u s.anny.mil Iowa Thomas Rob ertson tdrob ertsomgijuno.com Virginia Joel Cherry Jcherry@p atriot.net Kansas Mark McWherter mmcwhertertgjuno.com Washin gton Kenne th Hill hillkrI 868@m sn.com Louisiana Lynn Ourso Loul"So@NewOrieansRareComs com West Virgini a John Savi o [email protected] Please help the editor in updating any errors or changes. Ifyou would like to become a state representative (there can be more than one per state), please contact the editor. On the cove r... Civil War Tokens offer a sweeping and interesting side collection to Indian cents. In 1863, Indian cents were driven out ofcirculation and replaced with thin cent-sized copper tokens. This example is a Clarkston, Michigan merchant token with a doubled LIBERTY on the headband. Reverse die 1018 used on MI-180B-4a. Special thanks to Heritage Auctions for printing this issue ofLongacre's Ledger Copyri ght 2012 , The Flying Eagle and lndran Cent Collectors' Society. "T he Fly-In Club," All rights reserved. Articles, opinions and comments appearin g in this jou rnal reflect the views of their authors and may or may not agree with those of the Editor or the Society The Soc iety spcc jfically reserves. the right to edit copy, require payment in adva nce, suspend advertising privileges. or decline any article, letter to the eduor, advertisemen t or other submitted material in part or in whole 31 its sole discretion. No part of this Journ al may be reproduced , In whole or In pan, by any means, Without permis sion from the Society. Longacre 's Ledger Vol. 22.2 August 2012 Page 3 Longacre's Ledger 2012 Vol. 22.2 Issue #85 Contents Featured Articles The Saint-Gaudens Cent By Richard Snow 8 The "Other" Indian Head Cents President's letter 5 By Q. David Bowers 12 Club announcements 7 The More I Know, the More I Realize What I Don't Know By Charmy Harker 17 The Longacre Auction By Richard Snow 18 Something New By Richard Snow 21 Submission guidelines Submission deadlines If you have a substantive article you would like to contrib ute, please follow these guidelines: Please submit all articles, letters, columns, press releases "j If you have internet access, you can send text to the and advertisements no later tban the following dates to as editor 's e-mail address below. Please send images in sure inclusion: separate files. "j You may also send files and images on a CD-W disk Issue Deadline Show issue or other storage device to the editor 's address below. #862012 Vol. 22.3 November 1, 2012 FUN 2013 Storage devices will be retumed upon request. #87 20 13 Vol. 23.1 March 1, 2013 CSNS 2013 "j Images of material call be made by the editor for use in #88 20 13 Vol. 23.2 July 1, 2013 ANA 2013 the Journal. Please include the necessary return post #89 2013 Vol. 22.3 November I, 2013 FUN 2014 age with the submission. --J Please feel free to contact the editor if you have any questions. Editor Membership Rick Snow $20 per year, $35 for 2 years P.O. Box 32891 Fly-In Club Tucson, AZ 85751 P.O. Box 559 (866) 323-2646 Sandwich, Illinois 60548 www.indiancent.com [email protected] Special thanks to Charmy Harker for proofreading the articles. Longacre 's Ledger Vol. 22.2 August 2012 Page 4 The President's Letter By Chris Pilliod This is my 43rd letter as President and hoping everyone strikes. Undoubtedly, as soon as is having a fulfilled and safe summer of 2012. As far as numis they have the fresh dies in place, matics are concerned, the new coinage act has been consuming a bammmm... one goes bad. In my lot of my recent time here at Carpenter. Mint trial strikings have head I can hear the Press Op now concluded with a lot of additional work lying ahead. An erator yelling, "Would someone overarching concern with moving ahead is die life. But what is please figure out what is going curious is the modem mint engineer doesn 't have any idea what on!!!" poor die life even is. We discussed this in the In discussions with the Mint, they are embarking on last Ledger issue but a recent pur various paths to improved die life, better die finish, coatings on chase on eBay led to interesting dies as well as blanks and so on. proof of how another error occurs. Rotated die stri kings appeal to a limited number of specialists in the series but can be fun to col If today's Mint metallurgists think they have it tough, lect. Ofmost noteworthy are those strikings which exhibit medal their counterparts during the lndian cent series, especially the alignm ent, or 180-degree rotation. Die rotations in the lndian cent early years, must have had their heads spinning on a daily basis. series are relatively common before 1870, one 1868 Proof Indian While today 's engineers at the Mint start crowing about die life if Cent shows complete medal alignment. Around 1870 or shortly one doesn't make it to 200,000 strikes, back in the Flying Eagle after this time period fixes were in place to make rotated dies and Indian cent years some dies lasted literally just hundreds of much rarer.