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SA-GENEALOGIE Poslys

Argiewe 2013

Jaargang X Maand 2

Februarie 2013

Saamgestel deur: Pieter L van der Merwe

KWYTSKELDING

Hierdie argief is nie ’n amptelike, wetlike dokument nie, maar

’n samestelling van die e-posse van verskillende lede van die SA Genealogie Gesprekslys soos dit gedurende die tydperk ingestuur was.

Die lyseienaars en hulle bestuurspan aanvaar dus geen aanspreeklikheid vir die korrektheid van gegewens, sienings oor bepaalde gebeure, interpretasie en samestelling van familieverwantskappe, of vir enige aksies of verlies wat daaruit mag voortspruit nie, en stel voor dat persone wat hierdie bron gebruik, self eers die gegewens kontroleer.

Februarie 2013 Bundels

(Sprokkelmaand)

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 5761 Datum: Fri Feb 1, 2013 Daar is 11 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? by "Alta Roux" altaroux55 1b Re: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? by "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss 2a Re: Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? by "Carika Matthews" carikamatthews 2b Re: Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? by "Louis Hurn" ljhurn 2c Re: Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? by "Lorraine Jordaan" 3a Re: LDS Johannesburg NG Kerk dope by "fh_kriel" fh_kriel 4a SAG Marsh by "Carika Matthews" carikamatthews 4b SAG Marsh by "Maureen McCleland" [email protected] 5 nuwe woorde op 'n ou wysie? - Voetspore. by "Alta Roux" altaroux55 6 Engelbrecht navraag by "Marie" mariegreyvenstein 7a Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? - die EINDE aub. by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Messages 1a Re: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? Fri Feb 1, 2013 1:30 am (PST) . Posted by: "Alta Roux" altaroux55

Uitsluiting - nie net in doodsregister indeksering nie. Wanneer ek op die Internet na grafte soek, staan daar gewoonlik: ons het foto's van al die grafstene. Maar dis net die opgemaakte stene. Onopgemaakte grafte is nie te kry nie. En dis baie keer hulle waarna mens soek. Die oumense wat sonder 'n boedel dood is, die armes, die kinders. En dan dink jy: as mense die grafte tog saam met die begraafplaasregister wou kombineer! Maar dis vrywillige, warm, tydrowende, rugbrekende werk. En ek kry SO baie inligting, wat ek andersins nie sou gehad het nie. Dus: BAIE dankie aan elke persoon wat (verskriklik baie) tyd opoffer om vir ander inligting beskikbaar te stel, al IS dit nie altyd volledig nie. Dui dit net so aan. As mense bereid is om ure lank voor die rekenaar te sit en volledige lyste saam te stel, is dit wonderlik. Maar enige inligting is beter as geen inligting.

Alta van Estancia

1b Re: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? Fri Feb 1, 2013 2:58 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss

Ja nee, ek kan nie nog méér saamstem met Louis, Annelie en die vele ander lede wat hierdie tipe misplaaste politiese korrektheid uitgewys het nie!

Wat volgende? Moet ek as afstammeling van Tuko de Chinees, a.k.a Abram DE VEIJ nou kla dat ANDER mense nie genoeg Chinese rekords vir my transktribeer nie!?

As mense soos Keith "meer verteenwoordigende indekse" wil sien, verhoed niks hulle mos om dit SELF te gaan opstel nie. Hoeveel volledige indekse het hy al opgestel? Soos altyd wanneer mense begin vinger wys, wys daar 4 terug...

Groete Jaco Re: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing?http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAGenealogie/message/80596;_y lc=X3oDMTJzZzR2MXZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzExNjY5NDczBGdycHNwSWQDM TcwNTE5MzkyOARtc2dJZAM4MDU5NgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzU5N zEwODAw> Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 pm (PST) . Posted by:"Louis Scholtz" [email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Segregation%20and%20e xclusion%20in%20civil%20death%20indexing%3F> Keith

Ek is dankbaar vir die onbaatsugtige manier waarop lyslede informasie op hierdie groep deel, selfs al is dit net 'n uitreksel uit die registers op Familysearch. Hou in gedagte dat die werk vrywillig is en 'n refleksie is van die navorsing wat die betrokke lede doen. Ek dink jou moreelverhewe langtoonige opmerking is onvanpas en dat hierdie groep nie die regte forum daarvoor is nie.

Met vriendelike groete Louis Scholtz

____________**_________**_________**__ From: umfundi umfundi@usa.**net > To: SAGenealogie@**yahoogroups.**com Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 1:30 AM Subject: [SA-Gen] Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing?

2a Re: Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? Fri Feb 1, 2013 1:38 am (PST) . Posted by: "Carika Matthews" carikamatthews

Goeie dag almal Ek wil ook asb net gou 'inchip' hier. Ek stem 100% saam Matthys, ek is oneindigend dankbaar vir al die mense wat HUL VRYE tyd gebruik om ons ook sommer te help. Ek kan nie sien hoekom hul verplig moet wees om AL die inskrywings te doen nie, hul kan selfs net een van doen as hul wil. As dit nou kom by dinge soos Familysearch se indeksering wat ek self op 'n daaglikse basis doen, doen ek met liefde AL die inskrywings.

Ek glo nie enige een is aspris nie, maar die feit is dat daar miljoene rekords is en hul self kan oordeel wat om te indekseer. Dis my '10 cents worth'. Hoop jul het almal 'n rustige naweek (sonder apartheid sake) :)

Groetnis Carika [Matthews, Perkins, Lizamore, Bothma, De Nysschen, Badenhorst, Jacobs, ens.]

-----Original Message----- From: "matthys" [email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:29:45 To: [email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing?

Met respek Ek wil nie graag deel in persoonlike debatte oor wat Annelie gedoen het en wat lyslede daarvan dink nie. Ek is OOK dankbaar en waardeer die onbaatsugtige manier waarop lyslede informasie op hierdie groep deel, selfs al is dit net 'n uitreksel uit die registers op Familysearch. DANKIE Annelie en ander.

As navorsers daaroor verskille het kan hulle dit maar in liefde met mekaar uitveg. Ek sal nie graag wil sien dat persoonlike gevoelens gemoedere opjaag en die goeie gees hier versteur nie.

Matthys Steyn

2b Re: Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? Fri Feb 1, 2013 2:47 am (PST) . Posted by: "Louis Hurn" ljhurn

Nou se ek my se an as iemand daaroor wil val sal ek maar my goedjies pak en pad gee. Ek sit vir ongeveer 9 ure per dag en transkribeer grafstene en skuif dit waar dit hoort, asook tik ek my dood aan die 1984 kieserslys. Hoekom? omdat ek data daaruit wil kry vir my navorsing en ook iets wil agterlaat vir die wat na my kom. Ek dink

ek is nie ‘n rassis nie, maar waar is dit swart, gekleurd en

ander? Hoekom help hulle nie om die ondankbare werk te doen nie. Basta man Hou julle ongevraagde opmerkings vir julle self. As julle wil kla daaroor loop kla by Mnr Zuma!

Jammer Dennis, maar ek kan nie meer na dit nonsens luister nie. As ek daarvoor van die lys af geskop moet word, doen dit maar.

Groete van ‘n baie ontstoke

Louis Hurn. 2c Re: Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:27 am (PST) . Posted by: "Lorraine Jordaan"

10 uit 10 >>> "Louis Hurn" [email protected]> 2013/02/01 12:47 PM >>> Nou se ek my se an as iemand daaroor wil val sal ek maar my goedjies pak en pad gee. Ek sit vir ongeveer 9 ure per dag en transkribeer grafstene en skuif dit waar dit hoort, asook tik ek my dood aan die 1984 kieserslys. Hoekom? omdat ek data daaruit wil kry vir my navorsing en ook iets wil agterlaat vir die wat na my kom. Ek dink

ek is nie ‘n rassis nie, maar waar is dit swart, gekleurd en

ander? Hoekom help hulle nie om die ondankbare werk te doen nie. Basta man Hou julle ongevraagde opmerkings vir julle self. As julle wil kla daaroor loop kla by Mnr Zuma!

Jammer Dennis, maar ek kan nie meer na dit nonsens luister nie. As ek daarvoor van die lys af geskop moet word, doen dit maar.

Groete van ‘n baie ontstoke

Louis Hurn. 3a Re: LDS Johannesburg NG Kerk dope Fri Feb 1, 2013 2:50 am (PST) . Posted by: "fh_kriel" fh_kriel

Ek het dit nog net daar gesien, maar as ek reg raai is dit heel moontlik 'n kopie van registers wat saamgestel is by die NG argief of iets der voege. Dit is heel moonlik op 'n microfilm iewers.

Groete Erik

--- In [email protected], Anina Spies wrote: >> Hallo >> Moet mens LDS toe gaan om dit onder oe te kry? >> Groete > Anina Spies >> --- On Fri, 2/1/13, fh_kriel wrote: >> From: fh_kriel > Subject: [SA-Gen] Re: LDS Johannesburg NG Kerk dope > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:49 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â >>>>>>>>>> Hi Juretha >>>> Die lys is baie volledig vir die kerke wat gedek word, wat meestal die heel grootstes is (Kaapstad, Swellendam, Graaf Reinette, etc). Dit is baie volledig, maar ek het al mense gekry in baie klein gemeentes wat nie in die boeke opgeteken is nie. Maar as 'n bron is dit fantasties aangesien mens vinnig die oorspronklike doop insrywing kan vind en nagaan. So as jy nie weet waar om te begin soek nie en jy is seker die persoon kom nie van een of ander opskure area nie is dit briljant. Ek gaan altyd die oorpronklike doop na. >>>> Groete >> Erik Kriel >> Randburg >>>> --- In [email protected], "jurethaswanepoel" wrote: >> > >> > Daar is 'n reeks boeke by die LDS met NG kerk dope, opgedeel in tydperke, bv 1856-1861 en alfabeties volgens vanne...'n voorbeeld: >> > >> > Naam Datum Plek Bk no Bl >> > Johnson >> > >> > Catharina Margaretha 25.4.1858 Aliwal Noord 17 504 >> > Charles John Kannemeyr 14.8.1859 Swellendam 17 144 >> > >> > Kan iemand dalk vir my se hoe volledig hierdie lys is? Ek wil ook graag weet of die boek en bladsy nommer waarna verwys word die volledige doopinskrywing bevat. >> > >> > Baie dankie, Juretha

4a SAG Marsh Fri Feb 1, 2013 2:51 am (PST) . Posted by: "Carika Matthews" carikamatthews

Goeie dag Kan ek groot seblief vra dat iemand dalk vir my al die inligting oor MARSH in die SAG kan epos, indien dit nie baie is nie. Enige tyd oor die naweek, eks glad nie haastig nie.

By voorbaat dankie Carika [Matthews, Perkins, Lizamore, Bothma, De Nysschen, Badenhorst, Jacobs, ens.]

4b SAG Marsh Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:54 am (PST) . Posted by: "Maureen McCleland" [email protected]

Ek sal dit 'scan' en aan jou privaat epos stuur. Groete, Maureen (*Loftie-Eaton) Jeffreysbaai

>________________________________ > From: Carika Matthews [email protected]> >To: SAGenealogie Group [email protected]> >Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 12:51 >Subject: [SA-Gen] SAG Marsh >>>>>Goeie dag >>Kan ek groot seblief vra dat iemand dalk vir my al die inligting oor MARSH in die SAG kan epos, indien dit nie baie is nie. Enige tyd oor die naweek, eks glad nie haastig nie. >>By voorbaat dankie >Carika >[Matthews, Perkins, Lizamore, Bothma, De Nysschen, Badenhorst, Jacobs, ens.]

5 nuwe woorde op 'n ou wysie? - Voetspore. Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:33 am (PST) . Posted by: "Alta Roux" altaroux55

Lysteraars Ek weet daar is voorheen hieroor gesels. Ek dink ek het selfs 'n foto gehad, maar die het verlore gegaan. Nou het die eienaar van die voete selfs 'n van gekry, maar ek is nie seker nie - mens ken mos die volkslegendes! Volgens die persoon wat navraag gedoen het, is die persoon wat die voetspore in die Volksrust-omgewing nagelaat het (nadat hy sy Skepper gevloek het/'n geweerskoot in die lug afgetrek het?) die broer van Daniel Jacobus Erasmus (oorlede ong 1958/59), Belsasar Johannes Erasmus en Koot Erasmus. Hy was ongetroud. Weet iemand of daar ooit vasgestel is wie die eienaar van die voete was? Kan iemand help om die Erasmus-gesin te plaas? Presies waar het dit gebeur? (Plaasnaam?) Het iemand dalk nog 'n foto van die Voetspore? (ek dink dit was onse Annelie Els) Groete Alta van Estancia

6 Engelbrecht navraag Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:37 am (PST) . Posted by: "Marie" mariegreyvenstein

Goeiemiddag Ek is hard op soek na die ouers en grootouers van Stoffelina Francina Engelbrect *15.6.1883 +15.9.1975 te Alexandria x Petrus Gerhardus Human . Volgens die naamgee patroon sou haar ouers Benjamin Joseph Adriaan Stephanus Engelbrecht en Maria Johanna Catharina NN wees . Die enigste BJAS Engelbrecht in die SAG *25.6.1830 kan dalk te oud wees en al sy kinders word nie genoem nie . Is daar dalk 'n weldoener wat my kan help ?

Marie Greyvenstein Alexandria (Ooskaap)

Vanne : Greyvenstein , Botha , Steyn , Roux , Buitendag , Muller , Jacobs en alle verwante vanne 7a Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? - die EINDE aub. Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:26 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Hallo Keith en al die ander op die lys, Ek het nou die boodskap aangepas wat bo aan my data wat op die ZAF verskyn verander na:

PERSONAL RESEARCH EXCERPTS FROM CAPE PROVINCE DEATH CERTIFICATES for HOPETOWN on. www.familysearch.org TO VIEW DOCUMENTS: 1. Under browse by location, click on Africa. 2. Click on South Africa, Cape Province, Civil Deaths, 1895-1972. 3. Click on Browse through 2,216,270 images. 4. Click on transcribed year. 5. Click on HOPETOWN. 6. Enter desired image # in Image # box and press ENTER.

Baie dankie aan die persoon wat die excerpts voorgestel het, waardeer dit baie.

Groetnis. Annelie.

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of umfundi Sent: 01 February 2013 08:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Re: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing?

Annelie, Ek sal wag (vir 'n dag of twee) om te sien hoe hierdie draad ontwikkel, voordat ek reageer.

Beste, Keith --- In [email protected], "Annelie Els" wrote: >> Hi Keith, > Hierdie is die boodskap wat bo aan my Hopetown goeters verskyn... > Hoe sy jy voorstel ek dit verander om korrek te lees?? >> INDEX TO CAPE PROVINCE DEATH CERTIFICATES for HOPETOWN on > www.familysearch.org > TO VIEW DOCUMENTS: > 1. Under browse by location, click on Africa. > 2. Click on South Africa, Cape Province, Civil Deaths, 1895-1972. > 3. Click on Browse through 2,216,270 images 4. Click on transcribed year. > 5. Click on HOPETOWN. > 6. Enter desired image # in Image # box. > Europeans only. >> Groetnis. > Annelie. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 5762 Datum: Fri Feb 1, 2013 Daar is 15 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 Luyt Louis [80] by "Elisabeth Teir" kerrieborrie 2a Clanwilliam Doopregister? by "Al Mackenzie" aline2africa 3 George civil deaths 1909 by "Maureen McCleland" [email protected] 4 LDS Civil deaths George 1908 by "Maureen McCleland" [email protected] 5 Re: Digest Number 5760 by "Theo Vosloo" theoloerie 6 Indeksering - volledig of nie by "Dennis Pretorius" 7 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31 Januarie 2013 by "P Marx" 8 Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? by "Lettie du Preez" alet.dupreez 9 Re: [SA-Gen] Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death i by simonelkay 10 Barkly Wes en ander by "Lettie du Preez" alet.dupreez 11 "NG Kerk registers" by "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968 12a ZAF Indexes en Begraafplase ... `n vraag ?? by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 13 [PRESS] Beeld 02 Feb. 2013.doc by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 14 [Press] The Mercury Friday 1 Feb 2013 CREDITORS ...... by "aletta magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 15 [Press] The Mercury Friday 1 February 2013 by "aletta magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages 1 Luyt Louis [80] Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:52 am (PST) . Posted by: "Elisabeth Teir" kerrieborrie

http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Louis-Luyt-sterf-20130201 Louis Luyt sterf 2013-02-01 13:19 - Artikelopsies - Deel - Kry Beeld op

[image: Dr. Louis Luyt] Dr. Louis Luyt http://www.beeld.com/Fotos> Hendrik Cronjé en Lourensa Eckard Dr. Louis Luyt (80), voormalige president van die Suid-Afrikaanse Rugbyunie (Saru), is Vrydag in 'n Durbanse hospitaal in KwaZuluNatal oorlede.

Die oorsaak van sy dood is nog onbekend, hoewel dit bekend is dat hy siek was en vir jare met hartprobleme gesukkel het.

Luyt was aan die stuur van Suid-Afrika se rugbysake toe die Springbokke die Wêreldbeker in 1995 verower het.

Hy was ook vir jare die president van die Transvaalse Rugbyunie (deesdae die Leeus) waar hy 'n groot bydrae gelewer het.

Daar sal nooit weer iemand soos Luyt wees nie, het Kevin de Klerk, president van die Goue Leeus Rugbyunie, gesê.

Volgens De Klerk was sy familie saam met hom in sy laaste oomblikke.

“Dit is ’n groot verlies vir Leeus, Suid-Afrikaanse en wêreld-rugby

en ons is almal baie hartseer. Hy was een van die grootste leiers in sport wat

hierdie lang nog ooit opgelewer het,” het De Klerk gesê.

2a Clanwilliam Doopregister? Fri Feb 1, 2013 5:51 am (PST) . Posted by: "Al Mackenzie" aline2africa

Hello almal, Ek is seker dom, maar kan julle vir my vertel waar ek Clanwilliam se doopregister kan vind? Is dit op Family Search of is daar 'n ander bron waar ek dit moet gaan soek?

Baie dankie Alida MacKenzie

Burger/Schlechter/Gaybba

3 George civil deaths 1909 Fri Feb 1, 2013 7:10 am (PST) . Posted by: "Maureen McCleland" [email protected]

Ek het onlangs die bogenoemde indeks aan die ZAF Indexers gestuur. As iemand belangstel, kyk in die ZAF Indexers Argief onder Februarie 2013 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ZAF-INDEXERS/2013-02/ George 1909 (1 Feb 2013 gepos) Groete, Maureen McCleland (*Loftie-Eaton) Jeffreysbaai

4 LDS Civil deaths George 1908 Fri Feb 1, 2013 8:32 am (PST) . Posted by: "Maureen McCleland" [email protected]

Ek het vandag die bogenoemde indeks aan die ZAF Indexers gestuur. As iemand belangstel, kyk in die ZAF Indexers Argief onder Februarie 2013 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ZAF-INDEXERS/2013-02/ George 1908 (1 Feb 2013 gepos)

Groete, Maureen McCleland (*Loftie-Eaton) Jeffreysbaai

5 Re: Digest Number 5760 Fri Feb 1, 2013 8:55 am (PST) . Posted by: "Theo Vosloo" theoloerie

Ek wil darem ook 'n stuiwer in die ambeurs gooi ! To Keith and all the guys with the big "race chip" on their shoulders........ STOP complaining about what you should get out of the system but rather offer your free time to VOLUNTEER in contributing to the system.... go and visit churches, grave yards and archives and USE your fingers on your camera and/or computor in order to make a CONTRIBUTION of photos and records. Your unselfish gesture of goodwill will always be appreciated by members who are doing research. Of soek julle betaling? Perhaps you guys can donate some money to reward those who are willing to do the work on your behalf.

Regards From a Voluntary worker Theo 6 Indeksering - volledig of nie Fri Feb 1, 2013 9:08 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dennis Pretorius"

Hallo Almal Keith het dit goed gedink om die saak aan te spreek van "selektiewe indeksering" en ek stem met hom saam dat as indeksering nie volledige is, vir watter rede ookal - moet dit duidelik aangetoon word sodat latere gebruikers daarvan kennis sal neem. Dit is die regte dink om te doen - of die weglatings gebasseer is op tyd, geloof, ouderdom, plek van afsterwe, jaar van afsterwe of selfs dan ras of geslag.

Om dit egter as volg te etiketteer is baie jammer en Keith moes van beter geweet het :

"....For shame. How dare you exclude people from an index based on your own judgment or opinion?..."

Aan Keith wil ek antwoord - en ek doen dit in Engels om enige misverstand uit die weg te ruim:

Keith, my response to your first e-mail: any transcriber or indexer is fully entitled to record detail in his particular style and include or exclude any particular group of people based on either age, place of death. age at death, sex, race etc etc. It is his/her work and based on his/her scope of research. The user of that partial indexing is free to use or not to use it as he or she wishes.

Your comment in the second e-mail (response to Annelie) is a much more correct response and less emotive one - it addresses the real issue - that a partial index should indicate that upfront in order not to confuse the user. The user then has the choice to use or not to use.

Lede wat bydraes maak aan die ZAF-INDEXERS lys is dus welkom om voort te gaan met volledige of gedeeltelike indeksering - net met die voorbehoud dat dit duidelik gestel word indien die indeksering nie volledig is nie. Alle bydra word deur meeste lede waardeer en daardie lede wat nie daarmee tevrede is nie het die keuse om te " bly of te gly"

Ek hoop ons kan dus nou die gesprek be-eindig. Groetnis. Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp, South Africa Tel +27 11 762 8911 or +27-83 679 8541

7 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31 Januarie 2013 Fri Feb 1, 2013 9:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "P Marx"

Sterfgevalle DERBYSHIRE, George Ivor (Jippie). +Saterdag 26 Januarie 2013. Ons groet 'n broer en oom. Trevor en Maureen, Stanley en Max, Kobus en Denise.

DERBYSHIRE, George Ivor. (Voorheen van Alexandria). 24/02/1956 - 26/01/2013. Eggenote Delien, kinders George en Sharyn, Dorianne en Dienkie, William en Marielise. Gedenkdiens Saterdag 02 Febr. 2013 11:00 NGKruiskerk, Knysna. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/01/2013)

Hester Marx Loerie

8 Die debat: Segregation and exclusion in civil death indexing? Fri Feb 1, 2013 9:51 am (PST) . Posted by: "Lettie du Preez" alet.dupreez

Dit is jammer dat daar nou negatiewe kommentaar is op ander mense se onbaatsugtige pogings om te help. Ek self is besig met met die (CCD) lys vir Barkly Wes. Ek was ongelukkig al redelik ver daarmee voordat ek besef het ander mense kan moontlik ook hierby baat. Die skakels wat vir my van belang was, het ek sover in 'n Word dokument geplak met die Van en die skakel by elkeen. (Slegs blankes!) As daar van die lyslede is wat dit kan gebruik, kontak my van die lys af, dan stuur ek dit graag aan. Ek kan nie die lys plaas op ZAF nie, want dit is deurmekaar. (Ek maak so 3 family search skakels op 'n slag oop en werk dit dan gelyktydig deur, daarom is byvoorbeeld die een skakel in Word 1911 en die volgende een miskien 1900) Groete Lettie du Preez

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    GALVANE François-Philippe - D.E.A. de Droit Public, mention Science Politique - D.E.A. de Défense et Sécurité Internationale - Doctorant Le Nationalisme Afrikaner depuis 1992 Histoire, Bilan, Perspectives Une étude à propos de la monographie de Martin Schönteich et Henri Boshoff "Volk, Faith and Fatherland. The security threat posed by The White Right" Monographie n°81 Institute for Security Studies Prétoria - Mars 2003 Mars 2004 1 Plan Introduction p. 4 I - Les combats du Nationalisme Afrikaner depuis 1992 p. 5 A - 1992-1994 - L'œil du cyclone 1) Le 17 mars 1992 - The "last exclusively white referendum" p. 5 2) 7 mai 1993 - La création de l'Afrikaner VolksFront (AVF) p. 5 3) Les plans de guerre du général Viljoen p. 7 a) - Le contexte p. 7 b) - Les deux options militaires : les plans A et B p. 9 - le plan militaire A p. 9 - le plan militaire B p.10 4) Pendant la lutte, les négociations continuent : août 1993-février 1994 5) La crise du Bophutatswana - mars 1994 p.12 6) La création du Freedom Front - mars 1994 - et l'Accord du 23 avril 1994 B - 1994-1999 - Le combat politico-constitutionnel pour le Volkstaat p. 14 ère 1) 1994-1999 - La 1 Assemblée, constituante et législative p.14 a) - Constat d’échec p.14 b) – Le double jeu de l’ANC p.15 2) Les élections de 1999 p.16 C - Depuis 1999 - Division du Volk, clôture d'un cycle p.17 et nouvelles perspectives pour un Volkstaat 1) La division politique continue p.17 2) Fin d'une génération et clôture d'un cycle p.17 3) Le F.F.
  • Volk, Devils and Moral Panics in White South Africa, 1976 - 1993

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    The Devil’s Children: Volk, Devils and Moral Panics in White South Africa, 1976 - 1993 by Danielle Dunbar Thesis presented in fulfilment of the requirements for the degree Master of Arts (History) in the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences at Stellenbosch University Supervisor: Prof Sandra Swart Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences March 2012 Stellenbosch University http://scholar.sun.ac.za DECLARATION By submitting this thesis/dissertation electronically, I declare that the entirety of the work contained therein is my own, original work, that I am the sole author thereof (save to the extent explicitly otherwise stated), that reproduction and publication thereof by Stellenbosch University will not infringe any third party rights and that I have not previously in its entirety or in part submitted it for obtaining any qualification. March 2012 Copyright © 2012 Stellenbosch University All rights reserved i Stellenbosch University http://scholar.sun.ac.za ABSTRACT There are moments in history where the threat of Satanism and the Devil have been prompted by, and in turn stimulated, social anxiety. This thesis considers particular moments of ‘satanic panic’ in South Africa as moral panics during which social boundaries were challenged, patrolled and renegotiated through public debate in the media. While the decade of the 1980s was marked by successive states of emergency and the deterioration of apartheid, it began and ended with widespread alarm that Satan was making a bid for the control of white South Africa. Half-truths, rumour and fantasy mobilised by interest groups fuelled public uproar over the satanic menace – a threat deemed the enemy of white South Africa.
  • Wahlen Und Parteien in Südafrika Von Christian Schmehl © 2015 Christian

    Wahlen Und Parteien in Südafrika Von Christian Schmehl © 2015 Christian

    I M P R E S S U M Wahlen und Parteien in Südafrika von Christian Schmehl © 2015 Christian Schmehl. Alle Rechte vorbehalten. Autor: Christian Schmehl Kontaktdaten Schildstr. 54 08525 Plauen [email protected] Dieses E-Book, einschließlich seiner Teile, ist urheberrechtlich geschützt und darf ohne Zustimmung des Autors nicht vervielfältigt, wieder verkauft oder weitergegeben werden. Hat Ihnen das E-Book gefallen, so empfehlen Sie Ihren Freunden den Download eines persönlichen Exemplars auf XinXii.com. Ein großes Dankeschön, dass Sie die Arbeit des Autors respektieren! Gliederung 1. Einleitung 2 2. Das Wahlsystem in Südafrika 3 3. Wahlen in Südafrika 3.1. Wahl zur Nationalversammlung 1994 5 3.2. Wahl zur Nationalversammlung 1999 6 3.3. Wahl zur Nationalversammlung 2004 7 3.4. Wahl zur Nationalversammlung 2009 8 3.5. Wahl zur Nationalversammlung 2014 9 4. Zusammenfassung und Ausblick 10 5. Parteien Südafrikas 5.1 In der Nationalversammlung 2014 vertretene Parteien 14 5.2 In früheren Nationalversammlungen vertretene Parteien 24 Literaturverzeichnis 29 Internetquellen 29 2 1. Einleitung Der Anfang der 1990er Jahre bedeutete nicht nur in Europa, sondern auch in Südafrika das Ende einer Epoche. Im Jubel um das Ende der Ost-West-Konfrontation trat der hiesige Wandel beinahe in den Hintergrund. Dennoch wurde in diesen wenigen Jahren der Grundstein für die Demokratisierung Südafrikas gelegt. Das System von Rassentrennung und Herrschaft der weißen Minderheit, die Apartheid, hatte jegliche innenpolitische Legitimität verloren und machte einem System der demokratischen Gleichberechtigung und Rassengleichheit Platz. Nach nunmehr zwanzig Jahren nach der ersten freien Wahl wurde 2014 die fünfte Wahl zur Nationalversammlung abgehalten. Dieses Jubiläum gibt Anlass, auf die Entwicklung von Wahl- und Parteiensystem Südafrikas zurückzublicken.
  • Afrikaans Business Under Apartheid: the Case of the Western Cape

    Afrikaans Business Under Apartheid: the Case of the Western Cape

    ISSN 2039-2117 (online) Mediterranean Journal of Social Sciences Vol 5 No 27 ISSN 2039-9340 (print) MCSER Publishing, Rome-Italy December 2014 Afrikaans Business under Apartheid: The Case of the Western Cape Dr. Robert J. Wood Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University, South Campus, University Way, Summerstrand, Port Elizabeth, 6031 [email protected] Professor R. Haines Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University, South Campus, University Way, Summerstrand, Port Elizabeth, 6031 [email protected] Professor H.R. Lloyd Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University, South Campus, University Way, Summerstrand, Port Elizabeth, 6031 [email protected] Doi:10.5901/mjss.2014.v5n27p1361 Abstract Many commentators have taken a wide-brush view of the effects of apartheid, but the overarching policy’s impact on business differed not only on sectoral and ethnic lines, but also from area to area, conspicuously between the Western Cape and the rest of the country (O’Meara, 1982: 167). Despite common assumptions of political marginalization, the Western Cape region was not only the epicentre of Afrikaner capital in the Western Cape, but also politically powerful industries such as the wine industry. However, over time, the large Western Cape Afrikaans-owned conglomerates slowly outgrew the apartheid government, finding increasing common ground with their Anglophone counterparts. In time, this led to tensions with government, despite close ongoing formal and informal contact and communication. This article explores changes in the relationship between Afrikaans business and government in the Western Cape, and how the former moved from being central to outgrowing the apartheid order. Keywords: Western Cape Economy, Apartheid, Afrikaans Business, Sanctions, South Africa.
  • Partis Politiques En Occident : Sociologie Historique Du Phénomène Partisan

    Partis Politiques En Occident : Sociologie Historique Du Phénomène Partisan

    La question raciale `al'African National Congress (ANC) post-apartheid : production de discours, r´egulationet changement dans un parti politique Vincent Darracq To cite this version: Vincent Darracq. La question raciale `al'African National Congress (ANC) post-apartheid : production de discours, r´egulationet changement dans un parti politique. Science politique. Institut d'´etudespolitiques de Bordeaux, 2010. Fran¸cais. <tel-00541268> HAL Id: tel-00541268 https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-00541268 Submitted on 30 Nov 2010 HAL is a multi-disciplinary open access L'archive ouverte pluridisciplinaire HAL, est archive for the deposit and dissemination of sci- destin´eeau d´ep^otet `ala diffusion de documents entific research documents, whether they are pub- scientifiques de niveau recherche, publi´esou non, lished or not. The documents may come from ´emanant des ´etablissements d'enseignement et de teaching and research institutions in France or recherche fran¸caisou ´etrangers,des laboratoires abroad, or from public or private research centers. publics ou priv´es. UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX UNIVERSITÉ MONTESQUIEU – BORDEAUX IV / SCIENCES PO BORDEAUX ECOLE DOCTORALE DE SCIENCE POLITIQUE DE BORDEAUX - E.D. 208 CEAN - Centre d’Etude d’Afrique Noire (UMR 5115 du CNRS) La question raciale à l’African National Congress (ANC) post-apartheid : production de discours, régulation et changement dans un parti politique Thèse pour le Doctorat en Science politique Sous la direction de M. René OTAYEK présentée et soutenue publiquement par Vincent DARRACQ Lundi 29 novembre 2010 Membres du jury : M. François-Xavier FAUVELLE-AYMAR , Directeur de recherche CNRS-TRACES, Université de Toulouse 2; rapporteur M. Julien FRETEL, Professeur, Université Lille 2 M.
  • Opposition in South Africa's New Democracy

    Opposition in South Africa's New Democracy

    Opposition in South Africa’s New Democracy 28–30 June 2000 Kariega Game Reserve Eastern Cape Table of Contents Introduction 5 Prof. Roger Southall, Professor of Political Studies, Rhodes University Opening Remarks 7 Dr Michael Lange, Resident Representative, Konrad Adenauer Foundation, Johannesburg Opposition in South Africa: Issues and Problems 11 Prof. Roger Southall, Professor of Political Studies, Rhodes University The Realities of Opposition in South Africa: Legitimacy, Strategies and Consequences 27 Prof. Robert Schrire, Professor of Political Studies, University of Cape Town Dominant Party Rule, Opposition Parties and Minorities in South Africa 37 Prof. Hermann Giliomee, Formerly Professor in Political Studies, University of Cape Town Mr James Myburgh, Parliamentary Researcher, Democratic Party Prof. Lawrence Schlemmer, formerly Director of the Centre for Policy Studies, Graduate School of Business Administration, University of the Witwatersrand Political Alliances and Parliamentary Opposition in Post-Apartheid South Africa 51 Prof. Adam Habib, Associate Professor of Political Studies, University of Durban Westville Rupert Taylor, Associate Professor of Political Studies, Wits University Democracy, Power and Patronage: Debate and Opposition within the ANC and the 65 Tripartite Alliance since 1994 Dr Dale McKinley, Freelance Journalist, Independent Writer and Researcher The Alliance Under Stress: Governing in a Globalising World 81 Prof. Eddie Webster, Professor of Sociology, Wits University ‘White’ Political Parties and Democratic Consolidation in South Africa 95 Dr Eddie Maloka, Director, Africa Institute of South Africa 3 Table of Contents Opposition in the New South African Parliament 103 Ms. Lia Nijzink, Senior Researcher, Institute for a Democratic South Africa The Potential Constituency of the DA: What Dowries do the DP and the NNP Bring 113 to the Marriage? Prof.
  • Southern Africa, Vol. 14, No. 4

    Southern Africa, Vol. 14, No. 4

    Southern Africa, Vol. 14, No. 4 http://www.aluka.org/action/showMetadata?doi=10.5555/AL.SFF.DOCUMENT.nusa198107 Use of the Aluka digital library is subject to Aluka’s Terms and Conditions, available at http://www.aluka.org/page/about/termsConditions.jsp. By using Aluka, you agree that you have read and will abide by the Terms and Conditions. Among other things, the Terms and Conditions provide that the content in the Aluka digital library is only for personal, non-commercial use by authorized users of Aluka in connection with research, scholarship, and education. The content in the Aluka digital library is subject to copyright, with the exception of certain governmental works and very old materials that may be in the public domain under applicable law. Permission must be sought from Aluka and/or the applicable copyright holder in connection with any duplication or distribution of these materials where required by applicable law. Aluka is a not-for-profit initiative dedicated to creating and preserving a digital archive of materials about and from the developing world. For more information about Aluka, please see http://www.aluka.org Southern Africa, Vol. 14, No. 4 Alternative title Southern AfricaSouthern Africa News BulletinRhodesia News Summary Author/Creator Southern Africa Committee Publisher Southern Africa Committee Date 1981-07-00 - 1981-08-00 Resource type Magazines (Periodicals) Language English Subject Coverage (spatial) United States, Zambia, Namibia, South Africa, Southern Africa (region) Coverage (temporal) 1981-00-00 Source Northwestern University Libraries Rights By kind permission of the Southern Africa Committee. The article entitled "Update" is used by kind permission of Africa Fund.###The article entitled "Update" is used by kind permission of Africa News Service.
  • Negotiated Revolution: the Czech Republic, South Africa And

    Negotiated Revolution: the Czech Republic, South Africa And

    Negotiated Revolution: The Czech Republic, South Africa and Chile George Lawson Thesis submitted in fulfilment of the requirements for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy Department of International Relations The London School of Economics and Political Science University of London July 2003 UMI Number: U183154 All rights reserved INFORMATION TO ALL USERS The quality of this reproduction is dependent upon the quality of the copy submitted. In the unlikely event that the author did not send a complete manuscript and there are missing pages, these will be noted. Also, if material had to be removed, a note will indicate the deletion. Dissertation Publishing UMI U183154 Published by ProQuest LLC 2014. Copyright in the Dissertation held by the Author. Microform Edition © ProQuest LLC. All rights reserved. This work is protected against unauthorized copying under Title 17, United States Code. ProQuest LLC 789 East Eisenhower Parkway P.O. Box 1346 Ann Arbor, Ml 48106-1346 T H t-G<t- *3 F <3183 pouticai 1013 211 Abstract This thesis is an attempt to rescue revolution, both as concept and practice, from the misplaced triumphalism of the contemporary world. Given the relative openness and flux which characterises the post-cold war international system, the extent and range of problems which plague the world, and the enduring human proclivity for change, it would be folly to ignore a process which has had such a constitutive impact on world politics over the past few centuries. To that end, this thesis is a comparison of three contemporary ‘revolutions’: the end of apartheid in South Africa; the collapse of communism in the Czech Republic; and the transition from military dictatorship to market democracy in post-Pinochet Chile.
  • Election Update PO Box 740 Auckland Park 2006 South Africa T +27 11 482 54 95 Publications@Eisa.Org.Za

    Election Update PO Box 740 Auckland Park 2006 South Africa T +27 11 482 54 95 [email protected]

    election update PO Box 740 Auckland Park 2006 South Africa T +27 11 482 54 95 [email protected] http://www.eisa.org.za South Africa 2009 #2 ANALYTIC COVERAGE The ANC and COPE: Fleeting phenomenon or substantive opposition? TABLE of CONTENTS Prof. Susan Booysen Graduate School of Public and Development Management University of the Witwatersrand Analytic coverage The ANC and COPE: Fleeting phenomenon Introduction or substantive opposition 1 South Africa: the State of Democracy On the surface, COPE appeared to be a political party and its Implications for 2009 Elections 8 unlike any other that had emerged in the opposition Local Government, the 2009 Elections domain since 1994. In its origins it was significant. In its and Party Manifestos 12 potential catalyst role, it seemed to have the potential South Africa Elections 2009: to ring in a new era in opposition politics. Whilst the Political Parties Manifestos on chances remained that it could still emerge battered and Electoral Reform 16 belittled from the 2009 election campaign, also because Provincial coverage of its Mbeki links, there was little doubt that party Eastern Cape 20 politics in South Africa would never be the same again. Free State 24 Limpopo 28 The ANC’s 2009 contest with COPE was also nothing like KwaZulu-Natal 31 its engagement with any other opposition party in South Mpumalanga 37 Africa’s preceding three post-apartheid democratic Northern Cape 42 Western Cape 47 general elections of 1994, 1999 and 2004. COPE fell into Gauteng 50 the category of ‘legitimate’ opposition, helping to break the compulsive closing of electoral ranks around a ABOUT EISA 56 hallowed ruling party.
  • (Tony) Leon PV839

    (Tony) Leon PV839

    Inventory of the private collection of AJ (Tony) Leon PV839 Contact us Write to: Visit us: Archive for Contemporary Affairs Archive for Contemporary Affairs University of the Free State Stef Coetzee Building P.O. Box 2320 Room 109 Bloemfontein 9300 Academic Avenue South South Africa University of the Free State 205 Nelson Mandela Drive Park West Bloemfontein Telephone: Email: +27(0)51 401 2418/2646/2225 [email protected] PV839 Tony Leon FILE NO SERIES SUB-SERIES DESCRIPTION DATES 1/1/1/1 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive 2002 Files Committee Committee 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/2 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive Feb - April Files Committee Committee 2003 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/3 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive August 2003 Files Committee Committee 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/4 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive November Files Committee Committee 2003 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/5 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive 2004 Files Committee Committee 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/6 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive 2005 Files Committee Committee 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/7 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive Jan - May Files Committee Committee 2006 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/8 1. Subject 1/1 Federal Executive Minutes of the Federal Executive Jun - Sept Files Committee Committee 2006 1/1/1 Minutes 1/1/1/9 1.
  • Annual Report Sa Rugby

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