Article Blames Masculinity, Not Ideology, As the Cause of Terrorism
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Article blames masculinity, not ideology, as the cause of terrorism and violent extremism 18 upvotes | 1 April, 2018 | by mittenmaster0 https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/how-masculinity-not-ideology-drives-violent-extremism/2018/ 03/20/7b223c90-1e29-11e8-b2d9-08e748f892c0_story.html?utm_term=.658a7c304a62 So, BPers often state on this sub that "toxic masculinity" does not intend to categorize all of masculinity as harmful but only certain parts of it. However, this article may suggest otherwise If you’ve ever wondered why nearly all the people you read about who are joining the Islamic State or neo-Nazi groups or the white-nationalist alt-right are men, Kimmel contends it’s no coincidence: He believes that gender, specifically masculinity, is both “the psychological inspiration” that sends young men into these groups “and the social glue that keeps them involved.” The author of this article states gender, and masculinity not certain parts of masculinity, is responsible for driving men to commit acts of terrorism. For Kimmel, a sociologist at Stony Brook University in New York, a deep dive into the complexities of manhood is familiar territory. He’s the author of two other books that cover similar ground: “Angry White Men,” which focuses on wife-beaters and rageaholics and what motivates them, and “Guyland: The Perilous World Where Boys Become Men,” which looks at the male transition from adolescence to adulthood. In his latest work, Kimmel sits down with men for whom the bright shiny object is violent extremism. What are your thoughts on this article? Archived from theredarchive.com www.TheRedArchive.com Page 1 of 45 Comments despisedlove2 • 29 points • 1 April, 2018 07:00 AM Typical Islamist apologist postmodernist junk. MercedesBenzoAMG • 10 points • 1 April, 2018 09:54 AM Yep. Lefties will look for any scapegoat if it means they can defend Islam. So fucking ironic. Turkeys protesting in favour of Christmas. BiggerDthanYou • 4 points • 1 April, 2018 10:12 AM Because radicalization isn't limited to Islam. You might not know this, but there are actually different kinds of terrorists as well. There are right wing extremists, there are left wing extremists, there are Muslim extremists and there are Christian extremists. In history class you might have even learned about the IRA. Saying that solely Islam is to blame doesn't explain why anyone would even let themselves become radicalized in the first place. MercedesBenzoAMG • 7 points • 1 April, 2018 10:24 AM The IRA is, as you said, history. Islamic terrorism is an actual threat in the present. Try to keep up. BiggerDthanYou • 2 points • 1 April, 2018 10:28 AM Right wing terrorism is an even bigger threat so I don't know why you only want to talk about Islamic terrorism. YetAnotherCommenter • 6 points • 1 April, 2018 11:23 AM Right wing terrorism is an even bigger threat so I don't know why you only want to talk about Islamic terrorism. This is a pathetically silly excuse. For one, what do you mean by "right wing terrorism" exactly. Are the Cato Institute or Mises Institute or Ayn Rand Institute blowing anyone up? How many people have the alt-right killed? Dylann Roof + the person who killed that prostestor in Charlottesville perhaps? Are mainstream Republicans engaging in terrorism? What about people who simply are immigration hawks (I disagree with aspects of their position but they're hardly terrorists)? What even counts as "right wing" exactly? I mean you could make a pretty good case for ISIS being "right wing" in many senses. Could you give us a definition? There are basically no "right wing terrorists" running around wildly. The KKK is nothing. The last "right wing terrorist" attack I can think of is Roof's shooting, and before that Timothy McVeigh. Jihadism, on the other hand, is an international phenomenon which has spawned terrorist www.TheRedArchive.com Page 2 of 45 attacks in numerous countries across several continents, and is arguably 'subsidized' (if perhaps only in the intellectual sense) by Saudi oil money as well as two well-regarded and institutionalized denominations of the world's second largest religion (specifically Salafism and Deobandism). A few people playing with guns in the middle of the Michigan woods vs. religious denominations which, when combined, control >50% of all Mosques in the UK. Can you really think that Islamism is a lesser threat? MercedesBenzoAMG • 5 points • 1 April, 2018 11:43 AM I mean you could make a pretty good case for ISIS being "right wing" in many senses. This is the exact irony I was pointing out originally. Lefties defend Islam so strongly despite the fact Islam is anti-gay, anti-feminist, etc... they're more right-wing in many aspects than the left's arch nemesis Donald Trump who has quickly become their easy target. But god forbid you criticise the lovely tolerant brown people. despisedlove2 • 1 point • 2 April, 2018 01:28 AM No irony. Leftists and Islamists are two parts of the global FAIL alliance. As to brown, I am brown as well. Just don't mix me up with their allies. MercedesBenzoAMG • 1 point • 2 April, 2018 09:07 AM I know man my dad is brown too and he hates Islam more than Donald Trump. I didn't literally mean all brown people was just a joke pointing out that the colour of their skin is the only reason lefties are on their side. You just know that if it was whitie coming out with the same views as Islam the left would hate them. But because they're non-white they an "oppressed minority" so everything they say and do is given a pass. despisedlove2 • 1 point • 4 April, 2018 03:21 PM Not really. BBC regularly slanders non-Muslim Asians in the UK by referring to them in context of the grooming industry. [deleted] • 2 points • 2 April, 2018 05:31 PM* I am far, far more terrified of angry aggrieved white guys with their gun fetishes than I am of Muslims. Who just recently slaughtered 17 high-school kids in Florida? An angry white kid with racist leanings.. Before that, who mowed down 20+ worshippers in a rural Texas church? An angry white guy.. Who slaughtered over 50 individuals at a Las Vegas concert? An angry ol' white guy. BTW, nice try in attempting to box-in far Right white nationalist terrorism as solely consisting of Roof and McVeigh's actions... Who recently slaughtered worshippers at a Canadian mosque in Quebec? An angry racist white guy with known support for far-Right causes... Who sauntered into a Wisconsin Sikh temple back in 2012 and gunned down congregants www.TheRedArchive.com Page 3 of 45 before blowing his brains out? A skinhead white terrorist known with ties to white power movements.. In Norway, what maniac was it who went on a blood-soaked shooting/bombing rampage that left dozens and dozens dead? Drumroll please...an angry racist white guy!!! Coming back stateside, who opened fire on two men in a bar in Kansas because they "looked Iranian?" An angry white guy! Who murdered his Lebanese (Christian) neighbor in Oklahoma on racial grounds? Another angry white guy, they're like everywhere... Who open fire in shopping malls, movie theaters, political rallies, ANYWHERE...angry white guys! Who bombs abortion clinics (plus the Olympics)? Hint hint..an angry white guy. Who mails package bombs to unsuspecting citizens? Angry white guys. Y'all need to take chill pills. blackedoutfast • 1 point • 2 April, 2018 08:07 PM and yet all of those victims of angry white guys added together are just a fraction of the number of victims murdered by muslims in a single act of islamic terror on 9/11. islam is a death cult that shouldn't be tolerated in civilized society. [deleted] • 1 point • 2 April, 2018 08:15 PM* And those unfortunate victims of extremist Islamist terror are just a fraction of the number of Native Americans murdered by white Christian colonial-settlers during the white invasion of the erroneously titled 'New World' beginning in the late 15th century and continuing until the very present day. White Christians are a death cult who shouldn't be tolerated in civilized society. /s blackedoutfast • 1 point • 2 April, 2018 08:27 PM the indians should have fought harder to defend their homeland if they wanted to keep it. survival of the fittest. BiggerDthanYou • 1 point • 1 April, 2018 11:58 AM https://qz.com/1182778/the-far-right-was-responsible-for-the-majority-of-extremist-killing s-in-2017/ White supremacists and other far-right extremists were responsible for 59% of all extremist-related fatalities in the US in 2017, according to the Anti-Defamation League’s (ADL) Center on Extremism. Over the last decade, 71% of domestic extremist related killings in the US were linked to right-wing extremists, while Islamic extremists committed 26% of the killings, the report notes. YetAnotherCommenter • 4 points • 1 April, 2018 12:01 PM www.TheRedArchive.com Page 4 of 45 How did the report define "far right" and "extremist" and "extremist-related fatality" exactly? Was Omar Mateen classified as a "far right extremist"? In addition the ADL is about as trustworthy as the SPLC. IFuckedZoeQuinn • 4 points • 1 April, 2018 12:58 PM https://www.adl.org/resources/reports/murder-and-extremism-in-the-united-states-in-2 017#the-incidents What a surprise: they listed Islamic terrorism and black nationalist violence as "right- wing extremism" in order to adjust the statistics to their liking. Leftists are so predictable. I've learned to always take an extra-close look at the data and methodology whenever a study is pushing left-wing views just because they rig the results so often.