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LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Seventh Session (Eigbth Lok Sabba)
(V.I. XXI c."tain8 N08. 1 It) 10)
LOI( SABRA SECRETARIAT NEW DaLHI
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[BI."th Serle., Yol. XXI, Seven,h Se"lo1l, 1986)
No.1, T"e,day, NOl'.mb.r 4, i986/Kartlka 13, 1908 (SAKA)
COLUMNS
Obituary R.eference. ,1-4
Introduction of Ministers 4-6
'"'ral Answers to Questions : 6-32 .Starred Questions Nos. I, 2 and 4 to 6
'ritten Answers to Questions: 32-292 Starred Questions Nos. 3, 7 to 12 and 14 to 20 32-43 Unstarred Questions Nos. 1 to 8, 10 to 28, 30 to 184 and 43-292 186 to 221
Papers Laid on tbe Table 293-296
Sales Promotion Employees (Conditions of Service) Amendment Bill, 1986 296
Adjournment Motion- 299-376
Security Lapses at Rajahat on 2nd October, 1986-
Prof. Madhu Dandavate 300 Shri Bhaawat J ba Azad 311 Shri Saifuddin Cbowdbary 316 Shri 0.0. Swcl1 320 Sbri c. Madbav Roddi 3.23 Shri R.S. Sparrow 327 Shri P. Kolandaivelu 330 Sbri Ajay Mushran 332
Sbri Dfncsb Goswami 33S
Prof. Nirm~la Ku~ari Sbaktaw~t 338 Shri Indrajit Gupta 341
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ec.UIINI
Shrl P.R. Kumaramana.lam 346 Shri V. Kisbore Chandra S. Dco 350 Shri Balkavi Bairali ~S3 Shri Zainu) Basher 3SS Sbri N.V.N. Somu 358 Prof. Saifuddin Soz 360 S. Buta Sinab 363
Bill I ntroduced-
Citizenship (Amendment) Bill, 1986- 3~6-383
S·. Buta Singb 376
Shri Ba8udeb Acharia 376
Shri Somnath Chatterjee 377
Shri Manik Sanya) 380
Shr; Ama) Datta 380
Shri AnU Basu 381
Shri Anand a Pathak 381
Shri P. Chidambaram 381
Matters Under Rule 377- 383-389
(i) Need to clear Ib Thermal Project in Orissa Dr. Krupasindhu Bboi 383
(ii) Need to condemn the attack on the life of Prime Minister and take stern steps for Prime Minister's .security Sbri Somnatb Ratb 384
(iii) Demand for increase in transport subsidy in tbo billy districts of U.P. Sbri Harish Rawat 38S
(iv) Necessary steps needed to cboek tbe spread of 'silicosis' disease particularly in Maodsaur district of M.P. Sbri Balkavi Baireai 38S
(v) Demand to protect tbe carpet iDdatry in tbo COUDtry Sbri Umakant Misbra 386 (10 )
COLUIINI
(vi) Need to take steps to check tbe entry of Infiltrator. into India from Pakistan border Sbri O.S. Basavaraju
(vii) Need to make available financial assistance to tobacco srowers in Andbra Pradesh whose crops have been damaaed due to floods ,in Godavari, Wyara and Errakalva rivers Shri V. Sobhaoadreeswara .Rao 387
(viii) Need to adopt necessary measures to meet tbe power require .. ments of Kernataka
Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 388
Estate Duty (Amendment) Bill, 1986 389-402 Motion to consider Shri B.K. Gadhvi 389 Sbri B.B. Ramaiab 390 Dr. O.S. Rajbans 391 Sbri Amal Datta 392 Sbri Shantaram Naik 394 Sbri Vijoy Kumar Yadav 396 Sbri Vijay N. PatH 397 Sbri Girdbari La) Vyas 399 Shri Mool Chand Daga 402
Business Advisory Committee- 402 Twenty-eightb Report
ALPHABBTICAL LIST OF MEMBERS OF EIGHTH LOK SABHA
A Bairaai. Sbri Balkavi (Mandsaur) Bairwa. Shri Banwari Lal (Tonk) Abbasi, Sbri K. J. (Domariapnj) Baitba. Shri D. L. (Araria) Abdul Obafoor, Shri (Siwan) Bajpai, Dr. Rajendra Kumari (Sitapur) Abdul Hamid, Sbri (Dhubri) Bala Goud, Sbri T. (Nizamabad) Abdulla b, Besum Akbar Jaban (Anantnaa) Balaraman, Sbri L. (Vandavasi) Acbaria, Sbri Basudeb (Bankura) Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimala (Madras Adaikalaraj, Sbri L. (Tirucbirappalli) South) Adiyodi. Dr. K. G. (Calicut) Banatwalla. Sbri G. M. (Ponnlni) Aaarwal, Sbri Jai Prakasb (Chandni Cbowk) Banerjee, Kumar' Mamat. (Jad. vpur) Ahmed. Sbri Saifuddin (MaDlaldai) Bansi Lal. Shri (BhiwaDi) Ahmad. Shri Sarfaraj (Oiridih) Barman, Shri Palas (Balurpat) Ahmed, Sbrimati Abida (Bareilly) Barrow, Sbri A. B. T. (Nominated Anllo- Akhtar Hasan, Shri (Rairana) Indian) Alkha Ram. Shri (Salumber) Basavarajeswari. Sbrimati (Bellary) Anand Siolb, Shri (Gonda) Basavaraju, Shri G. S. (Tumkur) Annanambi, Shri R. (Pollachi) Basheer, Sbri T. (Chirayinkil) Ansari, Sbri Abdul Hannan (Madbubani) Basu. Shri Anil (Arambaah) Ansari, Sbri Z. R. (UDoao) Bbapt, Sbri B. R. (Arrah) Anthony, Sbri Prank (Nominated Anllo- Bhalat, Sbri H. K. L. (East Delhi) IndiaD) Bhakta, Sbri MaDoraojan (Andaman and Antony. Sbri P. A. (Tricbur) Nicobar Islands) Appalanarasimbam. Shri P. (ADakapalli) Bhandari, Sbrimati D.K. (Sikkim) Arjun SiDlb, Shri (Soutb Delhi) Bbarat Singb, Shri (Outer Delhi) Arunachalam. Sbri M. (Tenkasi) Bhardwaj, Shri Parasram (SaraDI.rb) Ataur Rahman, Shri (Barpeta) Bbatia, Shri R. L. (Amritsar) Atbithan, Sbri R.. DbaDuskadl (Tirucbendur) Bbattacbaryya, Sbrimati Indumati (HoOlhly) Athwal, Sbri Cbaranjit SiD,b (Ropar) Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindbu (Sambalpur) Awastbi, Sbri Jaadiab (Bilbaur) Bhoopathy, Sbri G. (PeddapaUi) Azad, Shri Bb8.lwat Jba (Bbagalpur) Bbosale. Sbri Prataprao B. (Satare) Azad. Sbri Obulam Na bi (Wasbim) Bboye. Sbri R. M. (Dbule) B Bboyo, Shri S. S. (Malegaon) Bbumij, Sbri Hareo (Dibru.erb) Bacbcban, Shri Amitabb (Allahabad) Bburia, Sbri DUeep SloSb (Jbabua) Basbel. Shri Pratapsinb (Dbar) Birbal, Sbri (Oanlanaaar) Baaun Sumbrui. Sbri (Sinlbbbum) Birendra Siqb, Rao (Mabeodraprla)
(I ) Birinder Singb, Sbri (Hissar) Dardi, Sbri Toj. Sinah (Dbatinda) Bilwas, Shri Ajoy (Ttipura West) Das, Sbri Anadi Cbaran (Jajpur) Brabma Dutt. Sbri (Tebri GarbwaO Das, Shri Bipin Pal (Tezpur) Budania, Sbri Nareodra (Churu) Das, Sbri R. P. (Krishnapr) Bandola, Shri Sujan Singh (Jbansi) Das, Sbri Sudarsao (Karimlaoj) Buta SioSb, S. (Jalore) Das Muosi, Shrj Priya Ranjan (Howrab) Datta, Sbri Ama) (Diamond Harbour) c Deb. Sbri Sarat (Kendrapara) Dennis, Sbri N. (Nagercoil) Cbalib., Sbri Paral (lorhat) Deo, Sbri V. Kisbore Cbandra S. Cbandrakaf, Shri Chandulal (Durg) (Parvatbipuram) Chandrasckhar, Shrimati M. Deora. Shri Murli (Bombay South) (Sriperumbudur) Dov, Shri Sontosh Mohan (Sitchar) Chandrasbekharappa, Shri T. V. (Shimoaa) Devarajan, Sbri B. (Rasipuram) Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati (Kangra) Devi, Prof. Cbandra Bhanu (Balia) Cbaran Singh, Sbri (Baghpat) DbariwaJ, Sbri Sbanti (Kota) Charles, Sbri A. (Trivandrum) Dhillon, Dr. G. S. (Ferozepur) Chatterjee, Sbri Somnath (Bolpur) Digal, Sbri Radbakanta (Pbulbani) Cbaturvedi. Sbri Naresb Chandra (Kanpur) Dighe, Shri Sbarad (Bombay Nortb CeDtral) Cbaturvedi, Stuimati Vidyavati (Kbajuraho) Digvijay Sinh» Shri (Sureodranaaar) Chaudbary. Shti Manphool Singh (Bikancr) Digvijaya Siogh, Shri (Rajgarh) Chaudhry. S hri Kamal (Hoshiarpur) Diksbit, Sbrimati Sbeila (Kannauj) Cbavan. Sbrimati Premalabai (Karad) Dinesb Siolh, Sbrj (Pratapgarb) Chavda. Sbri Isbwarbbai K. (Anand) Dogra, Sbri O. L. (Udbampur) Chidambaram. Sbri P. (Sjva~aDga) Donaaonkar, Sbri Sabebrao PatH Chinta Moban, Dr. (Tirupati) (A uraoaa bad ) Cboubey, Sbri Narayan (Midoapore) Dora, Shri H. A. (Srikakulam) Cboudbar~ Shrimati Usba (Amravati) Dube, Sbri Bbishma Deo (Banda) Choudbary. Shri Jagaonath (Ballia) E Chaudhary, Shri Nandlal (Salar)
Choudbary, Sbri A. B. A. Ghani Khan EOlti. Shri Diren Singb (Autonomous (Maida) District) Cboudhury, Sbri Samar Brahma (Kocrajbar) Cbowdbary, Sbri Saifuddin (Katwa) F
Faleiro, Sbri Eduardo (Mormugao) o Fernandes, Sbri Oscar (Udupi)
Dabbi. Shrt Ajitsinb (Kaira) G Dap, Sbri Moot Cband (P.ali) Ilalbir Singh. Cb. (Sirsa) Gadail. Sbri V. N. (Puoe) Dalbir Singb, Sbri (Sbahdol) Gadbvi, Shri B. K. (Banaskantha) Dalwai, Sbri Hussain (Ratnaairi) Oaekwad, Shri kanjit Singh (Baroda) Damor, Sbri Somjibbai (Dobad) Gaikwad. Shri Udaysinsrao (Kolhapur) Dand.vato, Plof. Madbu (Rajapur) Gamit, Sbri C. D. (Mandvi)
(U) Gaadhi. Sbri Rajlv (Amothi) Jain, Sbri Dal Cbander (Damob) Ganp Ram. Shri (Firozabad) Jain, Sbri Nihal Singb (Agra) Gavali, Sbri Sitaram 1. (Oadra and Nagar Jain, Sbri Virdbi Cbander (BanDer) Haveri) lakhar, Dr. Bal Ram (Sikar) Gavit, Shri Maoikrao Hodlya (Naodurbar) Janarthanan, Sbri Kadambur (Tirunclveli) Gebloc, Sbri A.bok (Jodhpur) Jan8dc, Sbri Kbel~n Ram (Bilaspur) Obolap, Sbri S. O. (Thane) Jatav, Sbri Kammodilal (Morena) Gbosal, Shri Debi (Barractpore) Jayamohan. Sh~i A. (Tiruppattur) Ghosh, Sbri Bimal Ranli (Seramporc) Jeevarathinam, Sbri R. (Arakkonam) Gbosb, Shri TarU:1 Kand (Barasat) Jona, Sbri Cbintamani (Balasore) Gbosh Ooswami. Sbrimati Bibb. Jbansi Laksbmi, Shrimati N. P. (Chittoor) (Nabadwip) Jbikram, Sbri M. L. (Mandla) Gill. Sbri M. S. (Ludhiana) Jitendra Prasada, Sbri (Shabjabanpur) GohU, Shri G. B. (Dbavoalar) litendra Singh, Sbri (Maba rajganj) Gomango, Shri Giridbar (Koraput) Jujbar Singh. Shri (Jbalawar) Gopesbwar. Sbri (Jamshedpur)
Goswami, Sbri D inesb (Ouwahati) K Oounder. Sbri A. S. (Palani) Gowda, Shri H. N. Naoje (Hassan) Kabuli, Sbri Abdul Rashid (Srinagar) Gowda) Shrl K. V. Shankar a (Mandya) Kakade. Shri Sambbajirao (Baramati) Guba, Dr. PhulrcDu (Contai) Kalanidhi, Dr. A. (Madras Central) Gupta, Shri lndrajit (Basirbat) Kalpana Devi. Dr. T. (Warangal) Gupta. Sbri Janak Raj (Jammu) Kamal Nath, Sbri (Cbhindwara) Gupta. Sbrimati Prabbawati (Motihari) Kamat, Sbri Gurudas (Bombay North East) Guraddi, Shri S. M. (Bijapur) Kamble, Sbri Arv'ind Tul~biram (Osmanabad) H Kamla Kumari. Kumari (Palamau) Kamson, Prof. Meijioluog (Outer Manipur) Halder, Prof. M. R. (Mathurapur) Kannan. Shri P. (Tiruchenaode) Hannan Mollab. Sbri (Uluberia) Kau), Shrimati Sheila (Lucknow) Hansda, Sbri MatHai (Jbargram) Kaushal, Shri lagan Natb (Cbandigarb) Hardwari Lal. Shri (Robtak) Ken, Sbri Lala Ram (Bayana) Harpal Sinib. Shri (Kurukshetra) Keyur Bhusban. Shri (Raipur) Hembrom, Shri Seth (Rajmabal) Kban, Shri Arif Mohammad (Bahraicb) Khan. Shri Aslam Sher (Belul) I Khan, Sbri Kburshid Alaro (Farrukbabad)
Iyer, Sbri V. S. Krisbna (Bangalorc South) Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub (JhuojbuDU) Khan. Shri Mobd. Mahfooz Ali (Etah) J Khan, Sbri Rahim (Faridabad) Khan, Shri Zulfiquar Ali (Rampur) Jadeja, Shri D. P. (lamnaaar) Kbattri. Shri Nirmal (Faizabad) Jaffar Sharler, Shri C. K. (Daoplore North) Khirhar, Sbri R. S. (Sitamarhj) Jaaannath Prasad, Shri (Mohanlalpnj) Kidwai. Sbrimati Mobsina (Meerut) Jaaathraksbakan. Dr. S. (Cbengalpattu) Kinder Lal, Sbri (Hardoi) Jaidoep Sioah, Sbri (Godbra) Kisku, Shri Prithvi Cband (Dumka)
(W) Kolandaivelu, Sbri P. (GobicbetdpalaYlm) Mebta, Shri Haroobhai (Ahmedabad) ICo01a". Sbri ChiDlwana (Natalaad) Moira Kumar, Sbrimati (Bijnor) K.ri.bnl Kumar. Sbri S. (Quilon) Mirdba, Sbri Ram Niwas (Na.aur) Kd.bDa Sioab, SbrJ (Bbind) Mishra, Shri G. S. (Seoni) Kabirsaaar, Sbrimati Keabarbai (Bbir) Mishra. Dr. Prabbat Kumar (lanjair) KuchaD, Shri OaDaadbar S .. (Solapur) Misbra, Sbri Ram Naaina (Salem pur) KuJur. Sbri Maurice (Sundarprb) Misbra. Sbri Sbrlpati (Macbblisbahr) Kumaramanplam, Sbri P. R. (Salem) Mishra. Sbri Umakaot (Mirzapur) Kunjambu. Sbri K. (A door) Mishra, Sbri Vijay Kumar (Darbbaoaa) Kunwar Ram. Sbri (Nawada) Misra, Shri Nityananda (Bolangir) KUPPulwamy, Shri C. K. (Coimbatore) Milra, Shri Sa tya.opal (Tamluk) Kuri.a, Prof. P. l. (ldukki) Modi. Sbri Visbnu (Ajmer) Kurup. Sbri Suresh (Kottayam) Mobaodu, Sbri K. (Mukundapuram) Mobant,. Shri Brajamohan (Pud) L More. Prof. Ramkrisbna (Khed) Motilal Sinah. Shri (Si~hi) Lacbchbi Ram, Cb. (JaJaun) Mukherjee, Shrimati Geet. (Paostura) Lal Doboma, Sbri (Mizoram) Mukhopadhyay, Shri Anaoda OopaJ Law, Sbri Asutolb (Dum Dum) (AsaDsol) Lonnlt Sbri WaDlpba (Aruaacbal East) Mundackal. Sbri Ooorlo Joseph (Muvattupuzha) Murmu, Sbri Sidba La) (Mayurbhanj) M Murthy. Sbri M. V. Cbandrasbokara (Kanakapura)
Madburee Singh, Sbrimati (Purnea) Murty, Sbri Dbattam Srirama (Visakbapatoam) Mababir Prasad, Sbri (Banlaaon) Murugaiab. Sbri A. R. (Karur) Mabajan, Sbri Y. S. (Jalaaon) Musbran, Sbri Ajay (Jabalpur) Mabalinp.m, Sbri M. (Nappattinam) Muttemwar. Sbri Vilas (Chimur) Mabata, Sbri Cbitta (Purulia) Mabendra Singb. Sbri (Guna) N Makwana, Sbri Narsinb (Dhandhuka) Malik, Sbri Dbaram Pal Sinab (Sonepat) Nait, Sbri G. Dcvaraya (Kanara) Malik. Sbri Puroa Cbandra (Duraapur) Naik, Sbri Shantaram (Panaji) Mallick. Sbri Laksbman (Jagatsinabpur) Naiklr, Sbri D. K. (Dharwad North) Malviya, Sbri Dapula) (Shajapur) Namayal, Sbri P. (Ladakh) MandaI, Sbri Saoat Kumar (loyoagar) Narayanan, Shri K. R. (Ottapalam) Mane, Shri Murlidhar (Nasik) Natarajan, Sbri K. R. (Dindigul) Mane, Sbri R. S. (Icbalkaranji) Natwar Singb, Shri K. (Bbaratpur) Manvendra Sinp, Sbri (Mathura) Nawal Prabhakar, Sbrima ti Sunderwati Martand Sinah, Sbri (Rewa) (Karol BISh) Masuda! Houain, Sbrl Syed (Murshldabad) Neekhra, Sbri Ramesbwa, (Hoabanaabad) Mavani. Shrimati Patol R.amaben R.amjibhai Ncai, Sbri Chandra Mohan Sinab (Garbwal) (RBjkot) Nehru, Sbri Aruo Kumar (Rae Bareli) Meen •• Sbri Ram Kumar (Sawai Madbopur) Netam, Sbri Arvind (Kanker)
(i. ) o Patil, Shri y ••bwaotrao Gadakb (Abmednaaar) Odedra, Sbri Dbarat Kumar (Porbandaf) Patoait, Sbrimati Jayaati (Cuttack) Odeyar, Shri ChaoDalab (Davaupre) Pattoait, Sbri Ja.. nnath (KalabaodO Oraon, Sbrimati Sumati (Lohardaaa) Pa war, Shri Baluabeb (Jalol) Owaili, Sbri Sultan Salabuddin (Hydorabad) PenchaUiab, Sbri P. (Nellore) Peruman. Dr. Vallal (Cbidambaram) p P. Pilot, Sbri Rajesb (Dausa) Padayacbi, Shri S. S. Ramasamy Poojary, Shri Janardhana (MaD8a1ore) (Tindivanam) Potdukbe, Sbri Shantaram (Cbandrapur) Pakeer Mobamed, Sbri E. S. M. (Mayuram) Prabbu, Sbri R. (Nilairis) Palakondrayudu, Sbri S. (Rajampet) Pradbao, Sbri K. N. (Bbopal) Pande, Shri Raj Mansal (Deoria) Pradhani, Sbri K. (Nowraoapur) Pandey, Shri Damodar (Hazaribagb) Prakash Chandra, Shri (Barb) Pan~ey, Shri Kali Prasad (Gopalganj) Puran Chandra, Sbri (Hatbras) Pandey. Sbri Madan (Gorakbpur) Purohit, Shri Banwari Lal (NaIPur) Pandey, Shri Manoj (Bettiah) Purusbotbaman, Shri Vakkom (AUeppey) Panigrahi, Sbri Cbintamani (Bbubaneswar) Pusbpa Devi, Kumari (Ra1aarh) Panigrabi, Shri Sriballav (Deogarb) Panika, Shri Ram Pyare (Robertsganj) Q Panja, Shri A. K. (Calcutta North East) Qureshi, Sbri Aziz (Satoa) Pant, Sbri K. C. (New Delbi) Paowar, Sbri Satyanarayan (Ujjain) R Parashar, Prof. Narain Chand (Hamirpur) Pardbi, Shri Kesbaorao (Bhandara) Raghuraj Singb, Cbaudhary (Etawab) Paswan, Sbri Ram Bbagat (Rosera) Rai, Sbri I. Rama (Kasaragod) Patel, Dr. A. K. (Mchsana) Rai, Shri Raj Kumar (Gbosi) Patel, Sbri Ahmed M. (Broach) Rai, Shri Ramdeo (Samastipur) Patel, Shri C. D. (Surat) Raj Karan Sioah, Shri (Sultanpur) Patel, Shri O. I. (Oandhinagar) Rajesbwarao. Dr. V. (Ramanatbapuram) Patel. Shri H. M. (Sabarkantba) Rajhans, Dr. G. S. (JbaDjbarpur) Patel, Shri Mohanbhai (Junapdh) Raju, Shri Ananda Oajapatbi (Bobbili) Patel, Shri Ram Pujan (Phulpur) Raju, Sbri Vijaya Kumar (Narasapur) Patel, Shri U. H. (Bulsar) Ram, Shri Ram Ratan (Hajipur) Pathak, Sbri Ananda (Darjeeling) Ram, Shri Ramswaroop (Oaya) Pathak, Sbri Cbandra Kisbore (Sabana) Ram Awadb Prasad, Shri (Balti) Patil, Shri Balasabeb Vikhc (Kopargaon) Ram Bahadur Singh, Sbri (Chapra) Patil, Shri D. B. (Kolaba) Ram DhaD, Sbri (Lalganj) Patil, Sbri H. B. (Bagalkol) Ram Prakash, Ch. (Ambala) Patil, Sbri Prakash V. (SangH) Ram Samujbawan, Shri (Saidpur) Patil. Shri Shivraj V. (Latur) Ramachandran, Shri MulJappalJy Patil, Sbri Uttamrao (Yavatmal) (CanDaDore) PaUl, Shri Veerendra (Gulbarp) Ramaiab, Sbri D.B. (Eluru) Patil, Sbri Vijay N. (Brandol) Ramaiab, Shri Sode (Bbadracbalam)
(v) RamamurthYt Shrl K. (ICrishDaairi) s Ramashray Prasad Singh, Sbri (Jabanabad) Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar (Vishoupur) Ramoowalia, Shri Balwant Singh (SaDSfur) Saba, Sbri Oadadbar (Birbbum) Rampal Singh, Sbri (Amroha) Sabi, Sbrimati Krishna (Belusarai) Ramulu. Sbri H.O. (Koppa) Sabu, Shri Sbiv Prasad (Ranchi) RaDa Vir SloSh. Sbri (Kaiseraaoj) Saikia, Shri Gokul (Lakbimpur) RaDla, Prof. N.O. (Gunlur) Saikia, Shri M.R. (Nowgong) Rang.oath, Sbri K.H. (Cbitraduraa) Sait, Sbri Azeez (Dbarwad South) RIOt Sbri. A.J.V.B. Mabeswara (Amalapuram) Sait, Sbri Ebrahim Sulaiman (Manjerl) Rao, Dr. G. Vijaya Rama (Siddipet) Sakargaym, Sbri Kal icbaran (Khandwa) SaJahuddin, Shri (Godda) Rao, Sbri J. Cbokka (Karimnagar) Rao, Sbri J. Vengala (Khammam) Samant, Dr. Datta (Bombay South Central) Sambu. Sbri C. (BapaUa) RIO, Sbri Jagannatb (Berhampur) San8ma, Shri P.A. (Tura) Rao, Shri K.S. (Macbilipatnam) Sankbawar, Shri A&bkaran (Ghatampur) Rao, Sbri P. V. Narasimha (Ramtek) Sankta Prasad, Dr. (Misrikh) Rao, Sbri Sribari (Rajabmundry) Sanyal, Shri Manik (Jalpaiguri) Rao, Sbti V. Krisbna (Chikballapur) Stuyendra Chandra, Sbri (Nainital) Rao, Sbri V. Sobhanadrceswara Satbe, Shri Vasant (Wardha) (Vijayawada) Sayeed, Shri P.M. (Laksbadweep) Ratb, Sbri Somnatb (Aska) Scindia, Shri Madbavrao (Gwalior) Rlthawa, Shri Amarsinh (Chhota Udaipur) Shri P. Ratbod. Sbri Uttam (Hingoli) Selvendran, (Periyakulam) Sen, Shri A.K. (Calcutta North West) Ratnam. Sbri N. Venkata (Tenali) Sen, Sbri Bholanatb (Calcutta Soutb) Raut, Sbri Dbola (Bagaba) Sethi, Shri Ravani, Shri Navin (Amreli) Aoanta Prasad (Dbadrak) Sethi, Shri P.C. (Indore) Rawat, Shri Harisb (Almora) Shah, Shri Anoopchand (Bombay North) Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad (Barabanki) Sbahabuddin, Sbri Syed (Kishanganj) Rawat, Shri Prabbu Lal (Banswara) Sbahi, Sbri Lalitesbwar (Muzaffarpur) Rcddi, Sbri C. Madbav (Adilabad) Sbailesb, Dr. B.L. (Chail) Reddy, Sbri B.N. (Miryalguda) Shaktawat. Prof. Nirmala Kumari Reddy, Sbri Bezawada Papi (Onao1e) (Cbittoflarh) Reddy. Shri C. Janga (Hanamkonds) Sbaminder Singb, Shri (Faridkot) Reddy. Sbri D.N. (Cuddapab) Sbankaranand. Sbrj B. (Cbikkodi) Reddy, Shri E. Ayyapu (Kurnool) Shanmupm, Sbri A.C. (VeUore) Reddy. Sbri K.. Ramacbandra (Hindupur) Sbanmulam, Sbri P. (Pondicberry)
Reddy t Shri M. Rashuma (Nalaonda) Shanti Devi, Sbrimati (Sambbal) R.eddy, Sbri M. Subba (Nandyal) Sharma, Shri Cbiranji Lal (Karoal) Reddy, Sbri Manik (Medak) Sbarma. Sbri Nand Kisbore (Balaabat) Reddy, Sbri S. Jaipal (Mahbubnagar) Sbarma, Sbri Nawal Kisbore (Jaipur) aiyan Sbri Baju Ban (Tripura Bast) Sbarma, Shri Pratap Dhanu (Viditba) Roy, Dr. Sudbir (Burdwan) Sbastri, Sbri Hari Krishna (Patebpur) Roypradbao. Sbri Amar (Coocb Behar) Sbervani, Shri Saleem I. (Budaun) Sbiqda, Sbrl D.B. (Dab-nu) Sunil Dutt. Shri (Bombay North West) Sbivendra Babadur Siogh, Sbri Surendta Pal Singb, Shri (Bulaodsbabt) (Rajnandaaon) Suryawanshi. Shri Narsina (Bidar) Shukla, Sbri Vidya Charan (Mabasamund) Swami Prasad Slnab, Sbri (Hamirpur) Siddlq, Sbri Hafiz Mobd. (Moradabad) Swamy. Sbri D. Narayana (ADantapur) Sidoal, Sbri S.D. (Belgaum) Swamy, Sbri Katuri Narayana Sinlaravadivel, Sbri S. (Thanjavur) (Narasaraopet) . Siogb. Sbri Bhanu Pratap (Pilibhit) Swen, Sbri G.G. (Shillona) Singb, Sbri Chandra Pratap Narayan (Padrauna) T Singh, Shri D.G. (Shahabad) Tanti, Shri Bbadreswar (Kaliabor) Singh, Shri K.N. (Hapur) Tapeshwar Singh, Shri (Bikramaaoj) Singb, Shri Kamla Prasad (Jaunpur) Tariq Anwar, Sbri (Katihar) Singh, Sbri Krishna Pratap (Maharajganj) Tewary. Prof. K.K. (Buxat) Singh, Sbri Lal Vijay Pratap (Sarguja) Thakkar, Shrimati Usha (Kutch) Singh, Shri N. Tombi (Inner Manipur) Thakur, Shri C.P. (Patna) Singh. Sbri S.D. {Dhanbad) Thambi Durai, Sbri M. (Dbarmapuri) Singb, Shri Santosb Kumar (Azamgarb) Thangaraju, Shri S. (Perambalur) Singh Deo, Sbri K.P. (Dhenkanal) Tbara Devi, Kumari D.K. (CbikmaaaJur) Sinha, Shri Atisb Chandra Thomas, Prof. K.V. (ErnakuJam) (Berbampore) Thomas, Shri Thampan (Mavelikara) Sinba, Sbrimati Kishori (Vaisbali) Thorat, Shri Bbausaheb (Pandbarpur) Sinba, Sbrimati Ram Dulad (Sbeohar) Thota, Sbri Gopal Krishna (Kakinada) Sinba, Shri Satyendra Narayan Tbunaon, Shri P.K. (Arunachal West) (AuraDlabad) TillS, Shri Simon (Khunti) Sodi, Sbri Mankutam (Bastar) Tilakdbari Singb, Shri (Kodarma) Solanki, Shri Kalyan Singb (AonJa) Tiraky, Shri PiYU8 (Alipurduars) Solanki. Shri Natavarsinh (Kapadvanj) Tomar, Sbrimati Usba Rani (Aliaarb) Somu. Sbri N.V.N. (Madras North) Tripatbi, Shrimati Chandra (CbandauU) Soten, Shri Haribar (Keonjbar) Tripathi, Dr. Cbandra Shekhar (Kbalilabad) Sonndararajan, Shri N. (Sivakasi) Tulsiramt Shri V. (Nagarkurnool) S02, Prof. Saifuddin (Baramulla) Tur, S. Tarlochan Singh (Tarn Taran) Sparrow. Shri R.S. (Jullundur) Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Sioab Stecnivasa Prasad, Sbri V. (Muzafl'arnagar) (Chamarajanagar) Tytler. Shri Jagdisb (Delbi Sa dar) Subburaman, Shri A.G. (Madurai) Sukh Ram, Sbri (Mandi) u Sukbadia, Shrimati Indabala (Udaipur) Unnikrishnan, Shri K.P. (Badagara) Sukhbllns Kaur, Sbrimati (Gurdaspur) Sultanpuri. Shri K.D. (Simla) v Suman, Shri R.P. (Akharpur) Vairale, Shri Madbusudan (Akola) Sundararaj. Sbri N. (Pudukkottai) Van, Shri Deep Narain (Balrampur) Sunder Lal, Sbri (Hardwar) Vanakar, Sbri Punam Cband Mitbabbai Sunder Sinab. ChI (Pbillaur) (Paten) VeDkat.aD, Sbr' P.R..S. (Cuddalore) Vadav, Sbrl Mahabir Prasad (Madhepura) Voont.h, Dr. V. (Kolar) Yadav. Sbri R.N. (Parbhani) Verma, Dr. C.S. (Kbagaria) Yadav. Sbri Ram Sloab (Alwaf) Verma, Sbrimati Usba (Kberi) Yadav. Shri Sayam Lal (V.lraoaai) Vijayaraabavan, Shri V.S. (Palpat) Yadav, Shri Subhash (Khar,one) Vir Sen, Shri (Kburja) Vadav, Sbri Vijoy Kumar (Nalanda) Vyas. Sbri Girdbari Lal (Bbilwara) Yadava. Sbri Bal Ram Singh (Mainpuri) w Yadava. Sbri D.P. (Monghyr) Yashpal Singh, Sbri (Sabaranpur) Wadiyar, Shri Sriltaota Datta Narasimbaraja Yazdani, Dr. Golam (Raiganj) (Mysore) Yogesb, Sbri Yogeshwar Prasad (Chatra) Walia, Shri Cbaranjit Singh (Patiala) Wasnik. Shri Mukul (Buldbana) z
y Zainal AbediD, Shri (Jangipur) ZainuJ Basher, Shri (Ghaz;pur) Vadav, Sbri Kailasb (Jalesaf)
(vNl) LOIC SABHA
The Speaker Dr. Bal R.am lakhar
The Deputy Speaker Sbri N. Tbambi Durai
Panel of Chairmen Sbrimati Basavarajeswari Sbri Zainul Basber Sbri Sbarad Di.be Sbri Vakkom Purusbotbaman Sbri Somnatb Ratb Sbri Nissankara Rao Ventatarafoam
Seere tory-General Dr. Subhash C. Kasbyap
MEMBERS OF THE CABINET Prime Minister and also incbarse of the Ministriesl Sbri Rajiv Gandhi Departments of Defence, PersoDnel, Public Grievances and Pensions; Planning; Science and Tecbno)oIY; Atomic Energy; Electronics; Ocean
I Development;' Spsce and other subjects not 'allocated to any other Cabinet Ministet or Minister of State (Independent Cbarsc) Minister of Human Resource Development and Sbri P. V. Narasimb .. Rao Minister of Hoaltb and family Welfare ' Minister of Finance Sbd Vlsbwanatb l Pratip'; SfDlb Minister of Home Affai ra Sbri ButB Siu,b Minister of Commerce Sbri P. Shiv Shankar' Minister of External Affairs Shri Narayan Datt Tiwari Minister of Aariculture Shri O.S. Dhillon Minister of Energy Sbri Vaunt Satbe Minister of Prolramme Implementation Sbri A.B.A. Ghani Khan Cboudlbry Minister of Communications Shri Arjun Sinah Minister of Law aDd Justice Sbri Asoke Kumar Sen Minister of Boviroomoot and Porests Shri Bbajan La) Minister of Wator Rcaoureel. Sbri B. Sbankaranand Minister of Parliamentary Affain and Minister of Sbri H.K.L. Bbqat Food aod Civil Supplies Minister of Induary:, Sbri l. Vensal Rao Minister of Steel and Mines Sbri' ,K.C. Pant Minister of Urban Development Smt. MobsiDa Kidwai ~ Minister of T6urllm Mafti Mobd. Syed '.
MINISTERS OF STATE (Iadependent Ch.rae) Minister or State (Independent cbarse) of tbe Ministry Shri Ajit- PllIja" of Inronn.tlo.,~.ad ...... tiDl~
Minister of State (Independent cbarae) of, tile'! Ministry t Sl1r' BraluD Dutt of Petroleum aDd Natural Gas
(alt MinJster of State (iodopeodoat char,e) of tbo Ministry Sbd S..d." 'l,tle; of Civil Aviation Miniater of State (Indepondent cha.. ) 01 the NlnJatry Sbn Madbavrao SoIDdIa of Rallwa,s Minister of State (Indepe.ndent cbarp) of tbe Ministry Sbri P.A. Saaama of Labour Minister of State (Independent cbarte) of tho Ministry Dr. Rajoadra Kumarl _'pal of Welfare Minister of State (Independent charlO) of tbe Ministry Sbri Itaj.b Pilot 01 Surlaco Transport Minister of State (Independent cbar.e) of tbe Ministry Shrt Ram Niwu Mirdba of Textiles
MINISTERS OF STATE
Minister of State in the Department of Defence Sbri Arun Sinlb Researcb and Development in tbe Ministry of Defence Minister of State in tbe Department of Expenditure in Sbri B.K. Oadhvi tbe Ministry of Finance
Minister of State in tbe Ministry of Home Affairs Sbri Cbintamani Panilrahi Minister of State in the Ministry of Urban Develop.. Sbrl Dalbir Singh ment
Minister of State in the Ministry of External Affairs Sbri Eduardo Pal"iro Minister of State in tbe Ministry of. Food aDd Civil Sbri Gbulam Nabi Azad Supplies Minister of State in the Ministry of Law and Justice Shri B.R. Bhardwaj Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance Shri Jaoardban Poojari Minister of State in tbe Department of Public Boter- Prof. K.K. Tewary prises in tbe Ministry of Industry Minister of State in the Ministry of Bxternal Aftain Sbri K. Nat"ar Slalh Minister of State in tbe Departments of Education and Smt. Kriabna Sabi Culture in the Ministry of Human Reaource Deve- lopment Minister of State in tbe Ministry of Science aDd Sbrl K.a. NarayaDaD Tccbnolol)' and MiDister of State io tbo Depart- ments of Ocean Development, Atomic BDerlY, Blcctronics and Space Minister of State in tbe Departments of Youth Affaln Imt. MaJ'III'It AI •• and Sports and Women and Cbild Devtlopmeal ID tbe Ministry of HamaD lleeoume DeveloplDlDt
(d) MI..... 0; itate to the Department of iodo.tria) Shrl M. AruDacbaiam Devolopmeat ill the MiDiatry of Industry MiDilter 01 Stat. ia the MiDi.", of Parliamentary Sbl! M.M. Jacob AffaIn MIDlster of State in tbe MiDlstry of PoriODDel, PubUc Sbri P. Cbldambaram Grievaacea aod POOSioDl and Minister of State in tbe Ministry of Home Affair.
Minister of State in the Ministry of Commerce Shri P.R. Das Munshi Minister of State in tbe Department of Rural Dey.- Shri Ramanand Yadav lopmeot io tbe Ministry of Agriculture Mini.ter or State In the Department of Chemicals and Sbri R.K. Jaichandra Singh Petro-Chemicals in the Ministry of Industry Mlni.ter of State In tbe Department of Mines in tbe Smt. Ram Dularf Sinha Ministry of Steel and Mines Minister of State in tbe Department of Fertilizer in Shri R. Prabbu the Ministry of Agriculture Minister of State in tbe Ministry of Communications Sbri Santosh Moban Dev Minister of Srate io tbe Department of Health in the Kumari Saroj Kbaparde Ministry of Healtb and Family Welfare Minister of State in tbe Ministry of Parliamentary Smt. Sheila Diksbit Affairs M intlter of State in the Department of Defence Pro- Shri Sbivraj Patil ductioD and Supplies in the Ministry of Defence Minister of State in tbe Ministry of Planning Shri Sukb Ram Minister of State in tbe Department of Power in the Smt. Sushila Robtagi Ministry of Eneray Minister of State io tbe Department of Agriculture Sbri Yogendra Makwana and Cooperation in the Ministry of Aariculture Minister of State In Ministry of Bnvironment and Sbri Z.R. Ansari POrella
DEPUTY MINISTERS
Deputy Minister in tbe Ministry of PersoDnel, Public Sbri Biren Sinlh Bogti Grievances and Pensions Deputy Minilter in tbe Ministry of Welfare Shri Giridhar Gomaolo Deputy MiDi.ter 10 tbo MiDistry of Textiles Sbri S. Krishna Kumar
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LOK SABHA ;DEBATES
~OK.SABHA rule in Soutb Afdca eliminated. ADIOIa ,became independent soon . after' MOIIIID bique's own liberatioD. ',Some yearl lator saw the emergence of an independent Zimbabwe. Nam'ibia stiJl continues 10 'fUlsda,,, No.v~mbe, 4, 1986/Kartlka 13, be under the illegal occupation of South 1908 (Saka) Africa. He considered tbe 'destructiOn of apartheid as tbe political liberation of all tbe people of South Africa. The death of Samora Machel will not stop the march The,,'Lok .811bho' mel aI, EleJJen 01 of history to its final culmination in '8 frce 'lie' Clock. Soutb Africa.
(MR. SPBAKBR In the Chair) Samora Machel adhered to the principle. of Non-alignment. He visited India in OBITUARY 'REFERENCES 1982 at the invitation of the late Prime Minister Sll1t. Indira Gandhi. He came {Engll!h] ,again to attend the 7th' Meeting of tbe Non-aligned Heads of State/Government. ,MR. ~SPBAKBR : Hon. Members, we He was here once more (0 attend the meet today after an interval of aboat two funeral of Smt. Indira Gandhi. -aodl'la.haJf moatbs. . Before we start the proceediDIB, it is my sad duty to inform tbe Tempered in long years of struS8le. House af tbe passing away of Mr. Samora Samora Machel's personality was cast in a Machel. President of Mozambique, Shri heroic mould. He belonged to a generation T. Anjiah. a titting member and four of of valiant fighters against colonialism and our former colleagues namely Sarvashri oppression. He belonged to entire humanity Suddaolu Bhusbao Das, Datta Katti, and his death is mourned by freedom .. lovinl O.S. Reddy and S.A. Muruganantbam. . peoples all over the world. Shri T. Anjiab was sitting member of ,To speak ef Samora Macbel is to speak Lok Sabba representing Secunderabad ef 'be hiatory ef' Mozambique. Born into constituency of Andbra Pradesh. He had a family of poor farmers in 1933, be threw been a member of Andhra Pradesh Legisla himself into tbe struggle for freedom from tive Assembly during 1957-78 and 1981-84 ·Ule colonial· rule. Joining the FRELIMO and of the Rajya Sabha during J978·80. Party at itl inception in '1962, 'he rose to be the Supreme Commander of the FRBLIMO Shri Anjiah started his career as a trade Combat Unit, in ,1967 and leader of the union worker on dai Iy wases of six >annas. Party in 19)9 on the assassination of He rose to become the Chief Minister of Eudardo Mondlano. He led his party in Andhra Pradesh in October, 1980 and held an armed struate to achieve victory and the office till February, 1982. Earlier. be independence for Mozambique. But peace served as Minister for Labour in the Andhra did not come to Mozambique with Pradesh Cabinet during 1972-73 an 1974-77 independence. Africa would be free only and also as Minister of State for ,Labour io wboo ~ism fS -,,,a-diwed from tbe the Union Council of Ministers for tbe ContiDent. He saw the struggle in first time in 1980 and apain from December Mozambique only 81 a part of a slogle 3J. 1984 till January 20, 1986. movement which would not achieve its ,~ ,.uDtii ~R.bodW •• A" ",nd NaJllibia A veteran freedom ftahter, Shri Anjiuh ~.... r'··~'\>tf•• ,d IDd ,!Ie ~.t w'j~ tn~rit)' ,ave up bis $t",dio.s ~ pat1icipato ip t"~ 3 ObltullfY Referenc" NOVBM8B1l 4, 19M
Quit India Movement in 1942. Prank and Sbn Datta Kattl pueed awa, at Miraj 10ft-spoken, Sbd Anjiab was ooe of the OD 22Dd September, IM6. at tbe aae of " founder members of the Trade Union yeara. Movement in the erstwhile Hyderabad State and Preside~t of Indian NationaJ Sbri O.S. R.eddy was a Member of tbe Trade Union Congress, Andbra Pradoth Fourtb, Slxtb and Seventb Lot Sabha Brancb durioa 1952-S8. It was duriog his duriog 1967-70, 1977·79 and 1980-84. tenure u the Union Labour Minister in respectively, representina Mriyalauda 1980, tbat payment of boous was made Constituency of Andbra Pradesh. compulsory in all industries. An aariculturiat by profeuion, Sbri A dedicated locial worker, Sbri Anjiab Reddy worked for the removal of uotoucba was instrumental in strengtbenina tbe bility and for land reforms. He held various Trade Union Kiaan Movement and improv positions in sevoral social and reliaious ing tbe conditions of weaker sections organisations and was also the Editor of Including minorities and physically handi a Tolugu Paper. capped. He took active part in the advancement of children's and adult educa .. Sbri Reddy pasaed away in a traale tion and in the efforts at solving the unem road accident on 7th October. 1986, at tbe ployment problem. A widely travelled person, ale of 69 years. he evinced keen interest in arts, science, engineering and tecbnolollY. Sbri S.A. Muruaanaotbam wu a Member of the Fifth Lot Sabba durinl Sbri Anjiab passed away at New Delhi 1971.77 representin. TirunelveU Constituency on 18th October, 1986. at the age of S7 of Tamil Nadu. years. A weU-knowD political and loclal Sbri Sudbansu Bhushan Das was a worker, he was associated witb several trade Member of tbe Tbird Lok Sabba during unioDs and social organisations in various 1962-67 . representing Diamond Harbour capacities. A journalist by profession, be Constituency of West Benlal. was tbe Editor of a Tamil fortniabtly.
A well .. known political and social Sbri Murupnantham passed away at worker, be was associated witb several TUticorin OD 17tb October, 1986, at the social organisations since his school days. age of 60 years. An advocate by profession, Shri Das took active part in spreading education and We deeply mourn tbe loss of tbese cooperative movement in rural areas. He friends and I am sure tbe House will join was also connected with banking institutions me in conveyiog our condolences to tbe for a considerable period. bereaved families.
Shri Das passed away at Calcutta on The House may DOW stand in silence 22nd August, 1986, at the age of 71 years. for a sbort while to express its sorrow.
Sbri Datta Katti was a Member of the The Member. tileD Itood la .lIeac. for a short While. Second Lok Sabba during 1957-62 represent ing Cbikodi Constituency of the tben State of Mysore.
A well ... known social worker. he worked 11.08 b .... for tbe upUftment of tbe worker sections of society. He served as tbe President of INTRODUCTION OF MINISTERS KaraDtak Pradesh Scheduled Castes Federa tion. Lawyer and teacher by proression, [English) be edited a Marathi weekly for a year. He was also the author of a boot In THB PRIMB MINJSTSR (SR&I Maratbi OD Or. Atnbedkat'. RAJI\' GANQHI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, • ~ Introduction 0/ Ministers KAt.TIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 have pleasure in introducins to you and Shri Sukh Ram, Minister of State in through you to the House my coJlealues. the Ministry of Planning.
Cabinet Mini sters : Shri S. Krishna Kumar, Deputy Miniiter in the Ministry of Textiles. Sbri Arjun Singb, Minister of Com SURI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub· munications. nagar): Sir, you must take some mercy Shri Bbajan Lal, Minister of Environ on us. The cbanges are so fast that we ment and Forests. have not been able to keep track of these.
Shri J. Vengal Rao. Minister of SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU Industry. (OobicheUipalayam) Sir, our hon. Prime Min ister has completed success Ministers of Sta te : fully his second year. We an wish bim a happy and long life. Sbri P.R. Das Munsi, Minister of State in the Ministry of Commerce. MR. SPEAKER Mr. Nityananda Mishra. Sbri R. Prabhu, Minister of State in the Department of Fertilizers in the SHRt S. JAIPAL REDDY: What Ministry of Agriculture. about condolence for those Ministers who have been dropped I Sbri M.M. Jacob, Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs.
Ministers wbose portfolios have been ('banged: ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Shrimati Mohsina Kidwai, Minister of Urban Development. [English] Shri Ajit Panja, Minister of State Assistance to revive sick Small Scale (Independent Charge) of the Ministry Industries of Information and Broadcasting. I. SHRI NITYANANDA MISRAt Shri Brahma Dutt, Minister of State SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : (Independent Charge) of the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Shri Ram Niwas Mirdba, Minister of State (Independent Cbarge) of the (a) whether central assistance is made Ministry of Textiles. available to State Governments on a matching basis under margin money scheme Shri Ohulam Nabi Azad, Minister of to revive sick industries in the Small Scale State in the Ministry of Food and Sector; Civil Supplies. (b) jf so, the details of the assistance Shri K.R. Narayanan, Minister of State given to States during the last there years, in the Ministry of Science and year-wise; and Technology and Minister of State in the Depltttments of Ocean Develop (c) the results achieved? ment, Atomic Energy, Electronics and Space. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Sbri Shivraj Patil. Minister of State in DEVELOPME.NT IN THE. MINISTRY the Department of Defence Produc OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA tion and Supplie. in tb.o Ministry of CHALAM) : (a) to (c). A $tate{llent is Defence, ,iven bol9W, 7 0 r,1 A,ltIWf,,, NOVBMBBR 4. 19U
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(a) Yes Sir.
(b) Details of Central Loan assistance given to States/U.Ts. under tbe MaTlin MODO, Scheme during the last tbree years are a8 under :
S. Name of tbe State/UT Amount sanctioned/Released (R.I. In laths) No. i983~84--'--19s4~is----'-'- 198,:'86
1. Uttar Pradesh 50.00 Nil Nil
2. Orissa 8.00 .5.00 Nil
3. Rajastban 4.00 Nil Mil
4. Kedl. 15.00 10.00 Nil
S. Andbra Pradesh S.OO Nil Nil
6. Karnataka 2.00 Nil Nil
7. Manipur 2.00 Nil Nil
8. Tamil Nadu Nil 2.5.00 Nil 9. Pondicherry Nil 0.40 Nil
10. Assam Nil .5.00 Nil
11. Punjab Nil 3.00 Nil
12. Himachal Pradesh Nil 2.00 Nil
13. J and K Nil 1.50 Nil -14. M.P. Nil Nil 5.00 Total: 86.00 51.90 .5.00
(e) Tb., assisted units are given a re industries. This sector reacbes out to tbe payment period of nine years with a morato vast hinterlands of our country aDd tbe rium of four years. It is early to assess the rural areas which suffer frOID object poverty. number of sman so"Ie units rejuvenated from Much attention bas been focussed on sick 1983 .. 84 onwards 1ft view of gestation period ness of big industrial uBits: but tbe lame involved in nursinl the units back to health. attention bas not been liven to sickness in the small scale sector. In thie background SHRI NITYANANDA MISRA: Tbe I want to uk whether tbe Miniltry baa small industries play a very vital role in OUf closely monitored tb. implementatioD of tbis economy and provide potfJntial for em'ploy seheme of providing financial ....1aace to ment apart from producing loods which remove the sickness of tbe small scale have improved our economy substantially. industries since it i. contral):, fUDded. if 10, The industrial workers Inpged in tbis sector the tolal amount of finaDClal ...I,tance liven, are rar QutD\l1Dber 'b~D tllose eOPled ill bts tlle D\tmber of 110" industrl" have boea ttAltrlKA 13, lJ08 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 revived. the additional employment created Government
SHRf S. JAfPAL REDDY: Sir, the DR. DATTA SAMANT: We are not member who bas put the question is from against starting industries in the villages. Andhra Pradesh and tht! Minist~r is from But, tuking advantage of all the facilities Andhra Pradesh. He can answer in Telugu. like infrastructure, soft loans, licences and so on, the same industrialists who are in THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Bombay or in other cities are closing their VASANT SATHE) : Why did you not speak industries there. At present SO big industries in Telugu ? are closed in Bombay not because of workers' demands, but because of non MR. SPEAKER: Jaipdl, after your payment electricity bills. And the very joining this House, it has become a mono- same industrialists are taking additional poly! . advantage by shifting their industries towards villages. I think, this is a very serious SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: The actual situation. While allowing the industries allocation in the Seventh Plan is Rs. 2751 in the villages, will the Government put a crores. condition that similar industries eitber in tbe cities or anywhere else should Dot be closed SHRI M. RAOHUMA REDDY: 1 want by the industrialists. Otherwise they are to know the figure for Aodhta Pradesh. taking advantage by shifting the industries. and tbey are spoiling the whole situation in SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: This is for the country. the whole country. SHaI J. VENGAL RAO: We are not SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: If he going to allow anybody to shift the indus dOes not have the figures now, he can give tries and establish them in rural arel'!ol. tbe iDformation .•• We will only encourage new coterprcneuJS (Interruptions) in the rural areas. NOVBM9sa 4, t986
PltOP. N. O. RANOA: Mr. Speaker. INDUSTRY (SHIll 'M. ARUN~LAM) : Sir. I _ry ItroOSly disagree with the supple (a) The production 01 Biad"a ,Photo mentary put by my hOD. friend. I welcome Films MaDuraclurlDI Company Limited tbe new Cabinet Minister for Industries, during 1985-86 was about R.I. '109 orores. ~aUy because of tbe latest statement be baa made that tbe policy of tbe Government (b) Tbe company earned a "roBt of is to eocouraae small industries .•• Rs. 637 lakhs durin. 1985·86.
MR. SPEAKER: Minister Sir, will you (c) and (d). The qr_tiODS do dot 'till like him even if be does not agree with arise. you? SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IVER: Sir, I PROF. N. G. RANOA: Is it not a would like to know from the 'hone Miniater fact? Is it not the long established policy whether tbe figure whicb he bas giveD. I.e. of tbe O"vernment fo encoura~e decentrali Rs. 637 crores il a gross profit or net satioD of the conglomeration of these indus profit ? If it is a gross profit, tben wbat i8 tries and encourage as many of the indus the net profit? trialists as possible, whether they are town ... based or not, to start new industries in rural SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM : Sir, areas? If this is the policy of the Govern profit from integrated production was ment of India till now, may I make a Rs. 274 lakhs. Profit due to conversion of IUI.estion that tbe Government may be jumbo rolls was RI. 223 lak,b •. lood enough not only to depend up~m (lnterruptlons) correspondence between themselves and the State Governments but also to go about MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. He is the State Governments and ,encourage them asking what is the net profit. Have you lot as to tbe best possible manner in which the anything with you or will you send it later policy of the Government of India can be OD ? implemented with tbe assistance of the Government of India? SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: We will inform tbem later on. SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: I entirely aaree with our eldest member, Shri Ranga MR. SPEAKER : He will let you know certainly follow it and I will up_ later on. What is there? Do you want bim to give 8 wrong answer? He will inform you Hlodustan Photo Films Ltd. later on.
*4. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA lYER: SHRI SOMNATH CHATIBRJEE: He Will ttle Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased should have aDtic,ipated tbis supplementary. to state: (llll.,r,uptlolll ) (a) the total production of photo films by the Hlndustan Photo Films Ltd .• MR. SPEAKER : He win provide the OotacamuDd, during 1985-86; answer.
(b) the amount of Joss/profit incurred (/nterruptlo"S> by the Pboto Films Ltd. during H~tDdd".n THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR.Y 1985-86; (SHRt J. VEHGAL RAO): It i. a Det profit. (c) the reasons for the loss, jf any: and
(d) the remedial action taken in the MR. SPEAKER : Net.. profit, .fter tbe matter? te.x.
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: I kaow OP.PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE· Jaipal Reddy. If I say anythiDl, tom,orrow, LOPMENT IN THE MINISTR Y OF he will move a Pdvileae Motion. 17 Orl/J, Alsw,,,, KAIlTI&A 13, 1908 (SAKA) Oral A."sw,,,, 18
rrl'tlll.tlalloJlJ to be much of a figure for an investment of over Rs. 100 crores. M.R.. SPBAKBR.: That is a 100d way of mOVllnl alfectioD. SHRI J. VENGAL RAO : This il a very (W."""lJon, ) competitive industry. In laternational markets, when compared to our products (.. Ih.] our product is good-tbe price. are low. Now, we are not in a position to compete SIUtI V.S. KRISHNA IYER.: It is a in the international market. Tbat is wby Det profit 01 llro.a profit ? only in the national market we are disposiol of most of the products. We are leUin, MR. SPEAK.ER : It is a net profit. reasonable profits.
SHRI V.S. ltRISHNA IYBa: My Electoral Refor •• point in putlina tbls question is tbat, J read a report in tbe paper tbat tbere is a decline *5. SHRI INDRAJIT OUPTAt : in tbe net profit of tbe company. It is one SHRIMATI OESTA MUKHER.JEE: of the most prestlaious companies in our COUDtry. It bas a monopoly. In 1983-84, the Will the Minister of LAW AND DOt profit was more tban Rs. 3 crores. I JUSTI CE be pleased to atate : bave leeD io one of tbo reports just now tbat &be net profit comes to about Rs. 2.25 (a) whether GO'Yernment are cODlideriol Cforea, during tbe current year. May I know a package of electoral refollDt for tbe past wby tbere is so much decline in spite of few years; heavy investment in tbe recent days and diversification of activities? Why there has (b) if so, the details thoreof. and been a decline in tbe not profit of the company 7 (c) whether the packalo is likely to be adopted before the next general electioDs ? SHRI J. VENOAL RAO: You will be Ilad to know tbat it Is earning profits and THE MINISTER OF LAW AND Dot only that. we are going for the expan JUSTICE (SHRI A.K. SEN): (a) Yes. sion of Hindustan Photo Films also. The Sir. cost of tbe plant is Rs. 9.25 crores. The (b) Suggestions regarding electoral plant when commissioned would be in a reforms have been made from time to time position to meet tbe country's demand. by tbe EJection Commission of India and There is another project with a cost of a Iso by some members of tbe public. Rs. 168.12 crores for manufacture of political parties and others. Some of the medical X-ray films to take up tbe integrated nlore important proposals recommended by manufacture of industrial X-ray films. We (he EJection Commission have been given are loina in for its expansion. This is a big the statement below. project. (c) Consideration of these proposals Is SHRI ANANDA GAJAPATHI RAJU: at an advanced stage within the Government. Mr. Speaker. Sir. for the previous year, the After taking preliminary dtcisions, it is profit bas been determined as Rs. 3 crores. proposed to consult political parties before But I wopkl like to know whether the final decisions are taken. The endeavour of method of valua'ion of inventory bas the Government is to put through tbe agreed chaDIOd or wbetMr lOme otber inventory proposals before the next Benera1 elections. mottled baa bien used or whether the p.i'ices or ra" matet'taJs bave lODe up and therefore Statement an inS.tiora or whether tbey have increased Proposal. for Electoral their prices tremendously so tbat the profits R.,o .... or the administered prices can go up ? , (1) Eliminati«;t.n of non-serloui candiclate.
I would liko to know all these things (8) Security deposit ~8y .,. .. ,i6(.,1 t~f1 ~.. ~ ...., 3 f&'Or- ~I I\1Qb d~ Qot 3eem limes, . 19 O,al Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Oral Answers 20
(b) A candidates who fails to secure (3) Disqualification 01 perSODS w Itb 20% of tbe valid votes polled may criminal records be disqualified. Persons with proven criminal records and (e) The minimum number of votes a shady past, history-sheeters and persons required for refund of security whose detention externment under N.S.A., deposit may he increased from one ESMA, C.O.F.E.P.O.S.A., F.E.R.A .• Goonda sixth to oDc-fourth. Act (where in force) etc. bas been approved by the Judicial Advisory Boards constituted under the above Acts, etc. to be disquaJifid (d) The facilities like priority allotment from contesting elections subject to taking of telephone connections immunity adequate safeguards for prevention of from requisition of vehirles, arbitrary use of this power by tbe ruling subsidised supply of paper for party. The term "criminal records may be printing posters, etc. will oat be difined in consultation with the political, available to independent candidates. parties. (e) Part of the election expenses of A person convicted by a court in India candidates sponsored by recognised for any offence involving moral turpitude political parties may be met by the shall be disqualified even if he is sentenced Government in kind through for less than two years. Conviction by tbe supply of free electoral rolls, lowest court should be treated as attracting subsidization of time bought on disqualification unless actually and finally AIR/TV according to agreed acquitted by appellate courts. norms etc.
(f) Nomination is to be subscribed by (4) Punitive measure. to cbeck dis at least one proposer from each of turbances at election meetillgs the component assembly con Persons resorting to violence during stituencies in the case of a election campaign including those who parliamentary election suhject to a disturb election meetings should be tried maximum of ten proposers. In tbe summarily and if convicted should be case of an a"sembly election, disqualified. nomination should be subscrihed by at least one proposer each from (5) Fraudulent filing of nomination papers different poJJing areas subject to a from Kakatpur Assembly Constituency maximum of ten proposers. in Orissa-steps to prevent recurrence of !-Iuch cases (@) In the ligt of contesting candidates and in ballot papers recognised Commission has recommended to the National and State Part.ics wruld Government the following steps :- be grouped together and their names would be arranged in (1) In the case of election to alphabetical orders first and there parliamentary constituency. nomina after the names of the remaining t ion paper sbould be signed by candidates arranged in alphahetical atleast onc proposer from each orders. assembly segment, but not exceed ing ten in number in all. Similarly (Z) Bar on contesting elections frum more in the case of assembly election, tllan two Constifu('ncics each nomination paper should be signed by one proposer from each No person should be allowed to contest electoral part of the respective an election from more than two con constituency, but not exceeding tcn stituencies in a general election to Lok Sabha in Dumber in all. or l.egislative Assembly or in simultaneous elections to the Lok Sabba and State (2) It should be obJiiatory OD tbe Legislative Assembly or in case of bye part of tbe candidate to furnish bis elections involvin8 two Of more s~at$, photograpb of' of on~ of ..it 21 Oral Answers KARTJKA 13, 1908 (SAKA.) , Oral Aiuw,rs r .22
proposers in case he is presenting , (c) entertains; pollina otltai4J.,.b tbe Dom~nation form in the absence food, drink., ·,to. ,.Jtad,l,jp of the candidate. ftueaces them to .ct "in 'j; a manner 10 8S ,te BQbs~e ~i8
(3) The photograpbs(s) furnished with interest; or Ii' • ~It' the nonimination paper should be ." 'r duly attested by a Gazetted Officer (d) threaten" any ol~t«· ;:a,d of the Central Government/State prevents· lucb electo~ ~ .Ircnn Government or sitting MP or MLA aoing to the polling beotb/
or MLC. station to cast bit:,ot... I
.! , (4) The candidate or one of bis , (2) Any persoD auilty of aD ofX~~ proposers who presented the under this section 8ha,1I be .~t.•• nomination from in the absence of ble witb imprisonment for a period the candidate should be present at which may ext~nd to two, years the time of the scrutiny of nomina witb a minimum of ,ix mQP\b,I.or , . oj tion papers and the returning with a fine which may; ext~ndf~' ,to Officer should satisfy himself about two tbou~aod rupees or with, ~~~; the identity of the candidate. . ;'1' (3) An offence punishable under s'ub- To give effect to the above recommenda section (2) sba)) be cogn~sabl~, and tions, Commission has also suggested attempt or abetment sbaU .' also amendments to sections 33 and 36 of tbe consityte an r9ffenceoi Representation of the People Act, 1951, and Forms 2A and 2B appended to tbe Conduct·· A new section lOB bas aJso' been 'pro of Elections Rules, t 961. posed somewhat on the ~ollowjng' lin,e! :~
(6) Booth-Capt,urlng lOB. Disqualification for committing the offence ot ~~otbcapturing-Jf the The Commission had decided to take Election Commission is satisfied effective measures to nip this evil practice in that '8 person is guiltfi of' :the the bud. Accordingly it has been recommend· elector,aJ offence of booth.capturing ed to insert a new Seetion 13SA to the including attempt or IlDetm~nt Representation or the People Act, 195 I. thereof mentioned in section 13SA somewhat on the following lines :- of this Act, the Election Cemmis !ion shalt, by order,.pubUaheddn 13SA. Booth Capturing the ·Official GafA:tte, ,declare,bim· :to be disqualified for &' period Gf six (1) A person shall be guilty of booth years from the date of the .Order. capturing at an election if be :- It bas also been suggested that if after (a) arms himself with lethal aD enquiry the Commilsion is' satisfied that weapons, seizes a polling booth-capturina has taken place I ~ 'at any booth or station, makes the polling sta·tlon in a constituency, it s~ld poning party surrender the have tbe power to callcel .be pon ia. "he J ballot papers, marks them entire constituency .nd order a repol1. ' ) with the voting mark in '1'. favour of a candidate of his SHRI INnRAJIT 0 tJfTAI : I 1'be' 1~ly choice and fills up tbe baBot of the hon. Minister to' ~.rt :(al','tof.' 1the boxes with these banot Question bas--cotdirmedl'tbat tbis 'I'considera p'apers; tion by tH'" OoVWftfhellt ef") a .pkkap of electoral reforms bas beeD 'Robj. ~_ 'in ·the (b) takes possession of polliog past rew ye.rs,~·attd 'is; ,tit c«reQly ~·"'id. booth or station and anows this matter has "~O ~.:/r'ise6 'dD' ~**ny only his known supproters to occasions, . fr(;fh' \i '''d~.' ,I. IMtees
exercise their franchise and and many;" q\1attertJ,:' f '... detiilted drives _wa), otbers; "In tbis Houso'",' 1**,"0), 'fimc'.w~tn fact,' the NOWMBER 4.1986 Oral Answers 24
d"tiStkwifllt was ·"ito ..ed bere, we were immediately with the various political lJt.fdtfbbd ,"It a':'()abiDfJt·1 Committee' was parties. That will be a great step • . gaing b)·t go 'into:fbe "val'iou8 proposals, the ,. ·.e~bdatfons (of 'EMOtion Commission With regard to the various proposals, and so 00. . So, theN· ,is an irresistible the hon. Member will see that tbey are of impression being created in the country a controversial nature, and a lot of thinking must go into tbe matter before l. ,·that tMiGovernmeot il not at all serious I.beut bringing ·about electoral reforms. tbe proposal$ are put before the political irft·'ltn ;beien dr.lged on from month to parties. Take for instance, first of all month. :~. to ytler; and as he has admitted, elimination of non-serious candidates for a few years this matter has been under security deposit to be raised-a candidate ·~Ideration. That is 1he ~tock' rep1y who fails to secure 20 per cent of tbe valid ~ "WIIlttl -is always being given. if votes in one election should be eliminated. : \' < Now, there is 8 Jot of difficulty. A candidate who ba~ lost by· a very large .. ~. (, I would like to know this : he says margin in one election may win in the next , lh,.ftbe~ wUi try to do something before election. We have got examples of that. oI)~e he~t general elections. ,A sort of mini- Therefore, these matters are being studied .•en~ral tlections are due early next year. a t length and in depth, and DO doubt the There will be Assembly elections in half dOien or eight States. I!Tbat is like a time has heen taken, but the Cabinet has a given top priority to this question, the .tJiiilt.,aeneral election. If ''''they are really Political Affairs Committee which is going serioUs about tbis matter, wi)) they kindJy t _into these matters one by one, like the inform us whether that Cabinet Committee electronic votiog system, we shall come up w9i~11 ~ was entrusted with this job has before the House as they 8re decided on a co'Qie to ,8ny kind of conc1usions, anti when are .thos~ conclusions going to be put preliaminary basis. But the hone member shaH agree with us and tbe Election berQr~ tbe political parties or Parliament? Commission tbat in resrect of matters '~,there any attet;ript to see that this matter touching election laws like barrinll ~8 settled, not before the next general cannidates and various other matters, we ~Iecdon. to ParJiament. but before this should not do any tbing in a hurry, bacause, very widespre,ad Assembly eJections which after all. our election is one of these 8r~ du~ within a (e'w months ? segments where the administrative machinery has worked very satisfactoriJy, and it has "SURI A;K. SEN: The hOD. Member evoked admiration not only of the people " iii, :d@bt 4hat these 'proposals have not been here hut als<, of the outside world concern , 'firnillzed as :quickly as some 'might have ing the impartiality and the effectiveness thougbt. fNow, the 'J')toposals are of a very of our election machinery. 1 agree with ..-Me~angirll' :chMacterr including the the hon. member that we should proceed elimination of non-serious candidates and Quicker; J assure him that top priority has ,tMJ on. 'Therefore, the" Political Affairs been given to this matter. Committee of tbe Cabinet ·is on the scene. Priority·it «iven to t)fle of, ,the mat teTS. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: The letlgth 1f';Z. tbe introduction of the eJectrooic and depth of tbis consideration, of course. I am not ahle to judge the dimension of it; 'I 'voting lay910.... Y()u will find that there is a qUDstien todayT""l'" I ,do -oot ·know whether . I hope they do not go out of their depth it will come to be answered or not. We. altogether, becaus~ it is not a question of .'''''0 alread, 1'."u a :preUrninary decision ,hurrying . ~wjtb ,reprd to .*he ¥ltrpduction of, el~lronic SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: The wat wee~ t9 Iby all vdti,D,J8ysMm wbich., Minister will go. , the ;o»tical PaJ',tiH. r ..... ,-"1984. until the ; Supreaae ~Court ca_ ,~ s.tIike it .down. on SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: There is (die ' ...... -d e.t ~hcs.~,,-:ore. rSwne, .Iegal no visible evidence of any hurry at all, it " . diIIcuhies.• "I "l-had .."ue4,.be, ..tt~r myself. is rather contrary. What 1 would )ike to .~""~ thought thet, tbe ·law: needed ,change. ask s~condly iR this: among tbese, there . That deci" bas"". ("aken ·alreadYt and is the recommendation of tb~ Election . 'WO 'iDteo4 ItQ - "ipiti•• ,. ,.s\lltations Commission.,. _. 25 0'41 A.~wers KARtIKA 13. 1988' (SJ4:KA) 0,0.1: Ans"'er$·· ~
MR.. SPEAKSR : Ho says, evcn hurry SHRI A~K. SEN; No.·. ·llJt&· BlectiOQ \ also takes time ... Commission bas given dewled, re .....(and,. one of tbem is that bootb capturiOI will be SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA' : There .are eliminated blOilUlWi tbe tDIdJ'idf _,It i ...; 'out
to some wbicb refer to, which pin pionts to of order immediat.ly, afttr: it i8 calptltlld I Gl'b certain criminal activities whiCb should be taken away. (lnterruptfdtzs) I cannot subjected to criminal penalty; wbether it is explain y.oU OBi tho Bloo.D of (lit; ,lbUse. impersenation of . voters or whether it is When the consultation) ta.kes place.' yOlf will . booth capturing and use of violence and find that it will stop booth so on. It is also mentioned here that capturing in a very largft ' wa)'; stringent measure$ must be taken to put and that is one of the ttconttnendatlbHs of' down these things. I think there should the Election Commission. Well. you not be any controversy on tbis; maybe I cannot un'derstand' it in o~~· minute. do n\lt know; but there should not be on Can you? .,!i'i the face of it any' controversy on tbese mattt:fS. So, I would like to know, MR. SPEAKER You \ hAVe' ~ a whether government has at least initiated conference, you dem'onsttate eft 'fo.J t11~ir;:' or formulated any changes in the law whic~ and show it. ..I",,,I! are not really connected with the exercise ,I l ~.~. ,. ~,I of the franchise but with the abuse of it by SHRI A.K. SEN :~ Mr . .lai Gor-I. 'R',4'd, use of violence and booth capturing. That will see when it is dOine. ", .. is one thing. The other question which is very important is that the Election AN HON. MEMBER He js- Mr. Commission has a1so included in its Jaipal Reddy. recommendation the question of part of the "" .I SHRI A.K. SEN: 'JiiJ Gopahl' is m~. election expenses being funded by tbe States as is being cone by many countries abroad; dear to me than 'JaipII'-r •. it is mentioned here in point (E). You SHRI S. JAIPA,L .REDDY : I kindly refer to paragraph (E); that is being up.de~71 stand that he cannot explaint it. mentioned here and discussed many times. I want to know whether they are really SHRI A.K.. SEN: ·The demo9~t{~On serious about this matter and whether this will be given aDd all the .. reasons . Cabinet Committee, Polilica) Affairs given by the Election Commission Committee is giving the highest priority to will be discussed bejQf:e the. q,~ties these matters. Can we expect tbat during and it. can hardly l?e . explaia~~1 ,-,.,;",: the duration of this session, at least parties one minute-at lea.t I can~t4qj~" <:J,l will be consulted as to the proposals which any bOQ. Mem bor c~~ ;~ .~xplainl .; .SIJGlfr) :~,~ I are now in their mind? important tbing in on~.,:mjpute, 1 ~<>;u1~~~: happy. But it will take + a long d~c to SHRI A.K. SEN: Not in all these , _, . ,I . demonstrate and sbow It. matters; it is impossible, but, as I said as and when each matter is decided, we might SHRI BASUDEB', ACHARIA " i This bring it up like electronic voting system, experiment should be done in Bihar. flnt. ' one of the matters in paragraph 6, page 3, Hon. M embers will see is about booth ,SHRI A.K.. ~~ ; ~'ttUS DO~.'aJk capturing. Now it is expected that with about .priorities. " The BCllIA1~1.~eop1q \ 1lla)' tbe introduction of the electronic voting say tha't it should be don~:,. ,in. ( ~sal system, booth capturing, might be eliminated first. substaintiaHy. ., ,I Ther~ are so many mattes'. ls'mentfbbed SHRI GUPTA: How 1 INDRAJIT in pairagrapb Nd~ 1 ,lalone, tb~re ar6li-p" to'.' (0), thed id' paragt~~b' No:) 2,' NO;:13 "an.(f! sd SOME HON. MEMBERS: How. on, eacb One would 'be'1J~ed in deptJ1'and 1 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: If a booth as and when we corilenr\-o ~'I pieHh1rnirt~·· is I;:aptured' by a gaog of people using decision we shall immediately have violent meaos. they can carry away the consultations I wM all the. p01'Ural elcw:tronic mac.kine also. parties, because after aU in election mi... ) NOVBMBBlt 4. 1986 Oral Answers 28 it b. tOibe :tono witb the cooseD'. of an SURI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Under the Law you are bOUDd to cODsiclor tbe .political parties. j. ,,!. '. .'1 \,' 1:1,,; , delimi lation. , ,S_lMATI,OBiTA.,YUKHER.JBB: I apoloailo for my lOre t.bro,t. SHRI A.K. SBN : May I add something to the answtr that my hone friend Mr. ,f '.' ' .... Ma. SPEAJ.{£R : You can take your Bhardwaj bas given 7 seat, we ·do Dot mind it. The Constitution provides for propor ~ 1~ I· I' ... ~HRI P. KOLA~DAIVELU : You can tional representation in resard to certain rOCoQJmced a Strepsils. elections, election of tbe President, Vice .. President and to Rajya Sa bha. After 8 "1 1 .' . ,SHRIMATI OEETA MUKHERJEE: good deal of debate-the Constituent The poiDts that have been included in the Asst!mbly proceeding will show that, this Election Commission's annexure do not matter was discussed at length-tho CPDt~~",I' anyttli1tg on tile nature of tbe Constituent Assembly accepted proportional e~n . .¥~. 1 would I.ike to know represeotation and selects electoral colleges whether the Cabinet Committee bas at any only. in regard to some elections and not time considered the question of proportional for general elections, and there bas been DO repJ'ltcJllt~U,on in 'lie; elections whicb we proposal to counter what the Constituent bave been advocating for a 10DS time • Assembly thought was proper.
. j 'Secondly if thtre is anytbing under [Translation} consideration about the change of the basis of the pre!ent constituencies. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Though it bas dertmftation of he constituencies as the just now been asked, I want to know again delimitation today is uneven all over India. whether along with the electoral reforms, the So. I would like to know. I want to know Government is considering the questions of whet'ber' this Iquestidn will be re-opened delimitation of tbe Parliamentary Consti before 1990 or earlier. tuencies and State Legislative Assembly Constituencies?
I' 'SIlRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Before the 21st century I SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ : I bave I l already submitted that the question of Tdl1 MINISTER OF STATE IN THB delimitalion of constituencies is engaging lliNImV OF 'LAW AND JUSTICE the attention of the Government. U!HRi!Ir.!t BHARDWAJ) : So far as tbe p~opo)1thDar represe.ol'tion is concerned, tbe [Engl/,h] E1~tfoii> Commission' bas never recommend ed I aria ,we have d'ot'delibetated it. SHRI' DJNESH GOSW AMI : Apart J',' 111 from the other amendments wbicb may be ;'~SHRIMATI: OEETA MUKHERJEE: necessitated. one tbing which embarrasses You aretdeiiberatina it. all tbe Members of Parliament and Members of State Legislatures is tbat the artitical1y low amount which bas been fixed ... SRill H.R, J BHl\RDWAJ : I am as the ceiling within whicb theoretically the t ' shouid be asked a6s\Verio. *f ltu~t18n. ~bb election cannot be fought. Actually to UstJt\ to me'. . ~" Members of Parliament have been playing 8 fraud on tbe electorate to enter tbe portals 1"~ f. ,q~S$ion Qf. delimitation of of Parliament, on tbis question. Therefore, co.qs1~tJ1e~ies is "e.D:~~DI ; the. attention of bas Government any proposal to remove tb~ QoverOl;nent.an8~~'Ia,Fe going to take this artificial amount- and make a fresb a !., \ d~isj9n ID'P.~Q!ta~oQ with tbe evaluation of tbe arnOUD' 1 OpJlP~i~iqllrliarties ,sbo~\l, . SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ : The bon. :. SHRJ A. K~ SEN : May I add one Member will remember tbat earlier there wal some fiauro whicb WII ehlDlcd b)' tho ,,,,,.'if' ,1)1." i:'" KARTlkA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers ~o
Election CommiaaioD durio, the last DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTR. Y OF eleCtions. If be baa aoy IUII08tioo on this INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· issue, be caD make it to tile Election CHALA~) : (a) Yes. Sir. Commisaio,o and it can consider it. (b) Total loss incurred upto 31-3-86 KUMARI MAMATA. BANERJEE: Is Rs. 136.31 erores. Loss during last three tbe Government awaro that all MPs and years: MLAs of Conlreas (I) from West Benaal bave lone in a deputation to tbe Election 1983-84 Rs. 30.77 crores. Commiss~on to complain tbat tbe State Government is directly recruiting 1984-85 Rs. 34.27 erores. enumerators for tbe new electoral roUs? Is tbe Government also aware tbat a big 1985-86 Rs. 51.67 crores. part of tbe police administration i.e. lbe Non-Gazetted Police Association, bas Total: Rs. 116.71 crores. already passed a resolution that they will fully support tbe CPI(M) people in tbe ensuing elections. If sucb things will take place. tben bow free and fair elections will (c) The main reasons are locational be held in West Bengal? The elections will disadvantages, taking over of a sick unit, thus be a total force. This is a very teething troubles of new units, power culs serious matter, because DO police officer can imposed by State Gpvernment, non make a statement like tbis as tbey are a ~vailability of skilled manpower, and the part of the administration. What is the hke. reaction of the Government in this regard? (d) Steps are being taken to develop SHRI H R. BHARDWAJ: There are infra-structure facilities, maximising maoy allegations of this nature which have production, long-term planning to take care come to OUf notice. I can assure tbe bon. of raw material requirements, training of Member that we will see that fair elections local manpower etc. take place. But tbe difficulty is tbat tbis bas to be routed througb the Election PROF. K. V. THOMAS: On tbe Commission. We have sounded tbe Election authurised capital of Rs. 100 crores, tbe Commission on whatever complaints have loss made was Rs. 136.31 crores. This is come and it is for tbe Election Commission bow ooe of our major public sector enter to set tbese complaints right. We will prise bas become a while elepbant. One always cooperate with the Election Com of tbe reasons is tbat our planners have not mission in this regard. given serious tbought in selecting tbe location of the project. When tbe Vellore newsprint was started we already bad in LOSI incurred by Hiadu5t8D Paper Kerala two projects in tbe private sector'. Corporation Limited The raw material for the newsprint is .6. PROF. K. V. THOMAS : Will reeds and bamboo. Kerala cannot supply the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to raw materials to all the three projects. Now state: we find that this public sector project in Vallore canoot get enough raw material. My question is what effective steps will be (a) whether tbe Hindustan Paper tak.en by the ,Government in consultation Corporation Limited is runninl at a loss; with the State Government to plant reeds (b' if so, the total loss iocurred so far and bamboos so that the public sector and durins tbe last three years, year-wise; enterprise gets priority in getting raw material. (c) tbe reasons for tbe loss; and (d) tbe remedial action taken? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : The total THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE capital investment of HiDdustan Parer DBPARTMBNT OF INDUSTRIAL Corporation is Rs. 863.52 crores. We ba~c 3& Oral Answers Written Answus h
Bot aJmost fi.vo plants. Unfortunutely. maximum cDOptratioo· fit.. tbe workeN' throe are located' in AI.am, one in Korala but I do Dot luIe. wb" tbe Minister baa and one in Kalnataka. There tb~ power oot mtntiOMd iQ!bi.;aoawer' tbat, ODe', of, the' cut is more than 60 per cent. One plant reaSODS for the 'Iosaes is mismaaagemeDt. i. Maoja National Paper Mills wbich is a This has not been mentioned. I personally sick plaDt takeo over by tbe Government. know about tbis l unit 'of MPe at Kmtayam. It is incurring loss. Now we are spending There are so many other· incidents of money. Nearly Rs. 18 crores is the amount mismanagement, some. of whiob I had to renovate the plant. There are so many written to tbe Minister concerned who, was troubles. One is a new plant-the Cachar in charge earlier, but no action bas been Project-which is also located in Assam. taken. 1 assure the Minister and tbis The investment on this plant'is Rs. 325 House that if an independent inquiry is crol'cs. This went into trial production. In conducted aooatt· tbe mismanagement of the this year I think It will come into Hindu,tao Paper Corporation's unit a-t conlOlercial production, jf the State Govern Kottayam, I am ready to give evidence ment gives us sufficient power. That is tbe personally. I have got so many evidence condition. in my baodJ So, I would like to know whether the Minister is ready to conduct PROF. K. V. THOMAS: My question an inquiry into the mismanagement of HPC has not been answered properly. My unit at Kottayam. quctStion was what steps would be taken to make the raw materials available. Tbat SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: About tbj~ bas not been answ~red. My second Hindustan Paper Corporation plant, the supplementary is that tbe failure of the workers are not entitled to bonus-those public' enterprises is not due to the non who have not completed five years. The cooperation of tbe workers, it is because of HPC has proposed a project ...... tbe fail·ufc of the top management. In tbe (/ntert'uptiolls). Because of the nOD- Newsprint project, when appoi.otmcnts are cooperation of tbe workers and the made at the top level, that is, at the Chair mismanagement, we are incurring loss. Now man and tbe General Manager's level, we are thinking how to reverse this and instead of looking into their technical how to get profit. This is one of tbe best efficiency, the appointments arc made under newsprint plants. We will do everythina political pressure. There are still vacancies to improve this. at tbe'top level wbich have not be~n filled up. So, my question is what steps will be MR. SPEAKER· Question Hour is taken to fill up tbe vacancies at the top over no-wI level and whether the efficiency will be taken into consideration instead of the political pressure ? WRITTEN ANSWBRS TO QUESTIONS SHRI J. VENGAL RAO : About the filliog up of . vacancies at the top manage [Engli.sh] ment level, the ,proposals are before the Appointments Committee. Tbey wilJ take De,elopment or Smalf' Scale I ndultrial a decision as early as possible. Uoits in Laksbadweep
The other tbiog is about the non *3. SHRI P. M. SAYEBD: Will the availability of raw material. Now the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to refer Kera\a Government also is wHling to give to the reply given to Starred Question No. land to raise our palntations. 61 on 22 July, 1986 regarding development of Small Scale Industrial units in SHRI SURE.SH KURUP : Sir, fortunately Lakshadweep and, state. : or unfortunately, ODe of the units of tbe Hindustan Pdper Corporation is in my (a) whether a nucleus cell in the office constituency at Kottayam. I can assure of the DevelopmeDt Commissioner, Small thiS House that in one of the units they get Scalo Industries bas sioee beeD set up; 33 'Written IhfSwers K·~llrrlKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 34
(b) if so, the objectives with which the (c) In view of (a) above. does not arise. cell bas "been set up; (d) The Inter-ministerial Committee bad (c) whether any feasibility re,port has decided to set up a nucleus cell to examine been prepared 'by the cen; and in detail the potential for development of industries and prepare feasibiHty reports. (d) whether the inter-ministerial The rossibilies for development of committee has decided t9 set up in horological, electronics and electro- Lakshadwetp electronic Bnci11ary industries mechanical industJ ies would also be or assembling units in 'consultation with the e"piored. The Cell would undertake the LBkshadweep 1$land Administration and if work soon after it starts functioning. not, the reasons therefor ? Thrtat of closure of 011 Rig Division THE MINISTER 'OF INDUSTRY of BHEL (SHRI J. VBNOAL RAO) : (a) Adminis trative sanction for the creation of p~sts for Cell has been issued and DecessaTX action ·7. PROF. RAMKRtSHNA MORE: bas been initiated (or the establishment of wm the Minister of INDUSTRY be p)eased the Cell. to state:
(b) The objective of setting up tbe Cell (a) whether it is a fact that tbe Oil Rig is primarily to motivate potential Division of Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited entrepreneurs in Lakshadweep and provide is facing tbreat of closure due to lack of necessary guidance and assistance to them orders for tbe drilling equipment from the in the estabtisbmeltt of their smaH scale ONGC and the on India Limited; units. The nucleus Cell would perform tbe fol1owing 'fonctieos : (b) if so, the reasons for Government to float global tenders for drillina equip (i) Preparation of Projeet Reports and ment; and Techno Economic Feasibility Reports. (c) the difference in cost between tbe BHEL's oil rigs and tbose which are being (ii) Selection of products having scope imported? in the Islands and identification of the necessary capital equipmentl THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY machinery and suitable raw (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) There has materials. been gross under-utilisation of capacity in the oil rig division of BHEL on account of (iii) Selection of appropriate technology inadequate orders for oil rigs. and dissemination of process knowhow. (h) Global tendering is permitted in (iv) Selection of sites and preparation rest"ect of 13 selected industries including of plant lay-out for the industries petroleum exploration and production, with to be taken up in the ,Islands. a view to obtaining competitive offers.
(v) Organisation of motivational (c) Prices of BHEL rigs are settled with training programmes like ONGe/OIL by mutual negotiations on tbe Entrepreneursbip Development basis of prevalent international prices and Programmes etc. price preference as per Government guide lines. Prices of BHBL rigs compare (vi) Conducting specific training favourably with imported rigs. programmes in Management subjects fot the entrepreneurs and Reoptoing or .Jyantl CoJllrry (BIhar) tbeir managers and in technical trades ror tbeir artisans for *8. SHRI SALAHUDDIN : Wi1J the uparaa.UoD of ."~ir s"nls, Minist~r of ~NEl\Gy be "leased 19 $tat~ : 35 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Written Answers 36
(a) whether there is aoy proposal to the foreign conaboratlon U 8uaaested by tbe reopen the Jyanti Colliery, district Deogher, State Government? Bihar; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (b) ir not, whether Government have DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE any proposal to transfer this colliery to MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Bihar Government or to any private SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) to (c). The agency ? proposal of tbe West Benlal State Electricity Board for settina up a thermal power THB MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI station at Bakreswar was received in VASANT SATHE) : (a) aod (b). No, Sir. December, 1983 and bas been tochno economically approved by the Central Legislation on Protection of Consumers Electricity Authority. While offen of externa:l assistance bave been received (or .9. SHRI MURLI DEORA : turo.key implementation of the project, an SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAO investment decision in respect of tbo project YOGESH: would depend on tbe receipt of clearance of tbe State Porest Department for acquisition of land r.:quired for asb disposal system, the Will the Minister of FOOD AND establishment of coal linkage, and CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: finalisation of the fundina pattern of the (a) wbether Government propose to project. bring a comprehensive legislation on protection of tbe consumers in tbe country; Untapped Hydro.Power Poteatlal and .11. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: the Minister of ENERGY be (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof and Will when it is to be brought forward 1 pleased to state: (a) .whether it is a fact that more than THE MINISTER OF PARLIA· eighty per cent of the total hydro-power MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER potential remains untapped in the country; OF FOOD AND CIVJL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGA T) : (a) and (b). The (b) if so, the details and reasons thereof; enactment of a consumer protection and legislation is under consideration of tbe Government. Various aspects of it are Cc) the steps proposed to be taken to under examination. make use of this untapped hydro-power potential? Thermal Power Generating Station at Bakreswar, West Bengal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE *10. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: MINISTRY, OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) to (c). The state: hydro-electric potential in tbe country is being developed keeping in view factors such (a) whether Union Government have as the availability of financial resources, tbe received any proposal from the Government anticipated power demand in various of West Bengal for setting up of a Thermal Regions, the techno-economic feasibility and Power Generating Station at Bakreswar; gestation periods of individual projects, and the irrigation and flood control .benefits, if (b) if so, when was the same received any, expected to be derived. About 12 and whether the necessary sanction has been per cent of the total hydro-~Jectric potential accorded; and or tbe country has been developed so far, and hydro-electric schemes with a ,. total (c) tbe time by which Union Govern capacity of about 12646 MW "re un(.lcf ment af~ likely to Qonve1 tlle aPl',oval of implement_tion at preseot, 37 Written Answers rcAaTIKA 13, 1901 (SAKA) Wrltt61J ,,4nSW~1'8 SI
RemOtal/Replacem.ent .r Chief Eueutl,e. aro : (I) job rlquir.,..t specific 10 tbe of Public Sector Undertaldql posts; (ii) Suitability of tho caDdJdate; (iii) Qualifications and experience; -12.' SHRI SATYENDRA NAR.AYAN (iv) Track Record; (v) QuaUty ef Leadenbip; SINHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY and (vi) Initiative aDd Drive. be plealcd to statc : Exploration around Mahar•• htr ••• d .(a) which are the public sector under Gaf.rat Coa.t. takings whose chief executives were removed. or replaced between May and October, 1986; *14. SHRf KRISHNA S,INGH : SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL : (b) the reasons therefor; and Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM (c) tbe criteria followed in making new AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to atate': appointments for those posts? whetber tbe Oil and Natural a •• THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY Commission bas struck a major oil fiod ia (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) During tbe Western offsbore belt. off the May to October, 1986 the Chief E7(ecutives Mah.'rashtra and Gujarat Coasts; of Cement Corporation of India, Burn Standard Company Ltd. and Cochin (b) j( 80, the details of tbe lods; lad Refineries Ltd. were suspended/removed or replaced before the end of their normal (Q) tbe steps boing taken for furtbel' tenure. explorations arouad it for best utO Gi tbelo resources? (b) They were removed/suspended on account of the deterioration of performance THE MJNISTER OF STATE OF THB or irregularities in implementation of major MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND projects. NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTY): (a) to (c). OJ) was struck by (c) The criteria ro1Jowed in making new ONGC at the following tbree locationa apPQiotments to the posts of chief executives recentlY in· the Western offshore areas:
~---"----'------'-----'- -_.'----'" ------Name of the well Location Date '------'----- CD·l SO km. South East of South Tapti Oas May, J986 Field (About 7S km. West of Damaa)
CA... 1 -do- Sept., 1986 B-42-1 150 km. West from Bombay Sept., 1986
More locations have been released for exploratory drilling to assess tbe potential of these finds.
Setting up of Petro.. Cbemical Promotion (a) whether there is aoy proposal uDdOJ' and Development Authority consideration of Government to set up a Petro-cbemical ,Promotion aDd Development .15. DR. B.L. SHAILESH : Autbority (PPD) to ideotify and support SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA the development of basic petro-cbemical. REDDY: and their cod-product., in view Qf the growiol impor&uce of petro~bemi"l. in Win tbe Minister of INDUSTRY bo ,be C9oDomf, aud vleased to st~te ; 39 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 40
(b) if 10, its broad outlines and when -(a) whetber Maruti Udyog Ltd. have it is likely to be set up ? approached the Government for permission THB MINISTER, OF INDUSTRY to manufacture two new models viz. 1300 cc and 1000 cc; (SHRI l. VENGAL RAO) (8) and (b). The CommiUee for Perspective Planning of Petro-chemical (b) if so, the details of the proposal Industry which was set up ,in April, 1986 for made; and formulating a 10Dg-term integrated growth oriented plan for petro-chemical industry (c) wbether permission to manufacture bas inter-alia recommended in its report new models will invo) ve a fresh burden on that a Petro-chemical Promotion and foreign exchange and also slow down the Development Autbority (PPDA) should be process of indigenisation ? constituted for tbe judicious and steady pr~motion of uses or petra-Chemicals in THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY view of tbe growing importance of petro (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. chemicals to the Indian economy. The functions ot the PPDA as suggested by the (b) The proposal involves manufacture Committee would involve rendering financial of a 'three-box' car with two options of and other assistance for the promotion of engine, viz. 1000 cc and 1300 cc. all such measures as are in its opinion conducive to the development of petro (c) The matter 'is under consideration chemical industry. Such measures include of the Government. Initiating studies for use of different alterna.. ,tive materials including petrochemicals, Transfer of SbaDan Power House in promotin8 quality conciousness~ training, Joginder Nagar (H.P.) from Punjab upgradation and/or import of processing machinery, suggesting policy measures for *17. PROP. NARAIN CHAND benefit or small scale producers, recommend ... PA RASHAR: Will the Minister of ing measures for export. import and fiscal ENERGY be pleased to state: policy and highlighting the research needs. Tbe Committee has further recommended that (a) whether ~ Union Government have the PPDA will set up and delegate powers to received a p(oposal from the Government of the 3 specialised sub-groups, namely. Himachal Pradesh for transfer of ShaDaD Polymers, Fibres and Chemicals and also set Power House in Joginder Nagar in Himachal up a Cen to identify the areas of futuristic Pradesh from Punjab; applications of petro-chemicals. To perform tbese functions effective1y the Committee has (b) if 80, the date on which the matter recommended that PPDA should have was taken up with Union Government by members to represent the Ministries/Depart the State Governmont and the decision ments of Government of India dealing with taken in this regas;,d; and the subject and from major public and private sector corporations engaged in (c) if no decision has been taken so far, petrochemical manufacturing activities. the 1ike1y time by which tbe decision would be taken and the reasons for delay ? The Committee submitted its report on 30.9.86 and its recommendations are under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE consideration of the Government and a DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE final view is yet to be taken. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAOJ): (a) to (c). Yes, Manufacture of New Models by Marati Sir. The demand for transfer of Joginder UdyoM Ltd. Nagar Power House from Punjab to Himachal Pradesh was' referred by Chief *16. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Minister of Himacbal Pradesh in October, DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO : 1984 and again in July. 1985, in reply to WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be which he was informed in January. 1985 and ploaac~ to .~to ; a,ain in AUJUst ~98'. that sip~c the alloc •• 4i Written Answers KART1KA 13, 1908 (SAKA) W,itten Answe" 42
tion or Joainder Nagar Power House to and a final decision will be taken OD tbe Punjab was made on the basia of decisions matter after such consultation. taken after the discussions' between the then Minister for Irrigation and Power and tbe (c) and (d). The operation of tbe Chief Ministers of Punjab" Haryaoa and machines is simple and it hal already been Himachal Pradesh 00 19th April, 1967 at tried successfully in assembly elections New Delhi. it would not be poss;ble to earlier. However. while boldin, consulta reopen the issue. tions with poli fical parties, all aspects concerned with tbe introductioD of electronic Committee to plao better collaboration voting machines includiog operational factor. between Research Laboratories could be kept in view. aod Industries Voluutary Civil Code .18. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY ·20. SHRI H.N. NANJB GOWDA; be pleased to state : SURI G.M. BANATYIALLA :
(a) whether Government propose to Will tbe Minister of LAW AND constitute a commiuee for pl'cpanuioD of a JUSTICE be pleased to state : plan to establish beLter collaboration between research laboratoJ'ies and industries; and (a) whether the Prime Minister baa directed the Law Ministry to speed up the (b) if 80, the details in reprd thereto 'I work connecled with a voluntary civil code;
THE MJNlSTER OF INDUSTRY (b) if so, whether tbe Law Ministry had (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) No. Su. initiated wide raoging public debate 00 tho subject; (b) Does not arise. (c) whether the opinion of tbe various organisations in tbis regard bas been Eh~ctrol)ic Voting Machiue obtained by the Ministry; and .19. SHRI BANWARl LAL PURO· (d) by what time the final decision in HIT: Will tbe Minister of LAW AND introducing the voluntary cJvil code is likely JUSTICE be pleased to state : to be taken 1
(a) whether Government have finaUy THE MINISTER OF LAW AND cleared tlle introduction of electronic votiog JUSTICE (SHRI A.K. SEN) : <8> and (0). machines for use in elections; The Prime Minister bas not aiven any direc.tion eJLc~~t tbat the question 01 drafaina (b) if SO, wben tbis system will actually a uDJform CJvll Code should be considered be put to use; urgently. A group of Ministers uDder the Chairmanship of the Minister of Human (c) wbetber tbe rural people . iu the Resource Development has been COD&iderinl country will be able to cast theu votes the draft on a unifotm Civil Code. No final through tbese and macbines; draft has yet been settled by tbe 'Group. After the final draft is settled tbe Govern (d) if not, the steps Government propose ment will consider the same and after its to take in this resard ? aPl>foval a Bill would be introduced in Parliament. THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI A.K. SEN) : (a) and tb). (b) Yes, Sir. A preliminary decision bas been tak.en by Government to introduce electronic voting (c) Only the views of tbe Bar Council machines in elections to Lok' Sabha and of India ha$· be~n received. No otbc r State Assemblies. It is proposed to bold organisation bas yet scnt tbeir views to tho consultations with political parties sbodl,)' Government. All tbe views communicated Wrl,ten Answ,,, 44• to die Oovernmeat wow" be duly (b) if so, tbo steps proposed to remOfO ooDsidored. tbe power supply restrictioos in future 'I THE MINISTER. OF STATB IN TMB CeDtral Nodal A.ene, tor Safet, Mealure. DBPARTMENT OF POWER. IN THB alaiolt Hazardous Cltemleals aDd MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Petro-Cbemlral. SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) On aCcount 1. SaRI H.B. PATIL: Will the of reduced availability of power on certain Minister of INDUSTRY be pelased to state: days in August, 1986. Damodar 'Valley Corporation bad to resort to reduction in the allocation of power to different (c) if so, tho decisions taken in this LPG PI.als .et up by 011 aDd Nataral feaard? Ga. Commission THB MINISTER. Of STATE IN THB 3. SHRlMATl JAYANl'l PATNAJK· DEPARTMENT OF. CHEMICALS AND Will tbe Minister of PETROLEU M PBTRO-CHEMICALS IN THE M1NISTR Y AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to OF INDUSfa Y (S'8RI R.K. JAI state : CHANDRA SINGH): WiD the ItUnister of INDUSTR. Y be pleased to' state : 1_lIItrl.. Co.ples In Blbar Dlltrletl (a) whether there is any proposal under 4. SHal VIJOY KUMAR YADAV tbe consideration of Government to allow Will tbe Minister of INDUSTR Y be import of paper and printina equipment pleased to state : without customs duty to belp tbe publisbioa industry; (8) wbether it is a fact that Union Oovernment have given permission ror (b) whether Government bave received settinl up of an industrial complex in maoy some complaints regarding the increase in districts including Nalanda district in Bihar; prices of paper and delerioration in ita quality; and (b) if so, the details of theso schemes and by what time tbeir cODstruction work (c) if so, the steps taken by, Govern is likey to be completed; and ment to make quality paper available to publishers at reasonable prices ? {c) the number of unemployed persons who will be given employment under tbis THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE scheme"? DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRY (SHRJ M. ARUNA- DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY CHALAM) : (a) No such proposal is OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA under the consideration of the Ministry of CHALAM) : (b) whether it is a fact that tbe Oil 10. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: and Natural Gas Commission stopped Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be drillinl at various places in Andbra pleased to state: Pradesh due to floods; and (a) whetber some cases have come to (c) if so, when tbe ONGC will start tbe notice of Government that credit given drilling again ? by the various Industrial Finance Corpora tions is looked up; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) if so, the details thereof, indicating NA1URAL GAS (SHRf BRAHMA tbe class, nature and end-products of tbe DUlT): (a) About Rs. 2.SS crores. industries tbat usually become sick and are closed; and (b) Yes, Sir. (c) the remedial measures Government (c) The operations have already been propose to take for re"oJ)enina tbe sick resumed. mills and also for recovering the dues 7 THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE Paper mill in Tripura DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT IN THE MINJSTR Y OF 8 DR. SUDHIR ROY: wm the INDUSTRY (SURI M.ARUNACHALAM) : : MinlbltU of INDUSTRY be pleased to (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. However. detaited ; atalc : informatio,D. witb reaatd to the credit liveD J " ~ 1 .I~ • 49 Written Answers KARTIKA I~. '1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 'SO by tbe various Industrial Finance Corpo- from India. several countries like U.S.A., . rations locked up in lick industrial units is Canada, U.K. FRO, SwitzerJand; France, not centrally maintained in this Ministry. Italy and Japan. etc. bave expressed tbeir Industrial sickness is not confined to any willingness to help India in acquiring biab particular industry. However as per the technology. information available from RBI in respect of large scale sick units, tbe tex'ile industry The terms and conditioDs are settled on has the larg~st number of sick units follow case to basis. ed by Engineering and Electricals. Sugar, Jute, Iron and Steel, Chemicals etc. Government welcomes cooperation with (c) The Central Government have laid other countries iu the higb tech areas in dowa policy guidelines in October, 1981 for order to modernise our industries and the luidance or Ministries/Departments of improve their productivity t~ make, them tbe O.Jvernment, banks and financial competitive in the world market provided institutions for revival aDd rehabilitations the terms and conditions offered are within of sick units, the salient features of which our policy parameters. have been furnished in reply to Lok Sabha U ostarred Question No. 204 on 23.1.1985. Packet Swltchiog PubUc Data Network The banks and financial institutions 12. SHRI R.M. BHOYE : Will tbe make efforts to recover their dues from the Mjnjst~r of COMMUNICATIONS be units assisted by them, by providing relief pleased to state : and drawing up rehabilitation . programmes in case of potentially viable units so as to (a) whether the Departments of Tele restore them to health and eventually communications proposes to establish a recover the dues. In cases where units are packet switching public data network called considered non-viable', banks/financial Vikram. with mainly imported equipment. iostitutiong safeguard their interests by during the Seventh Five Year Plan; and recalling the advances, enrore iog the securities and filing lega) suits for recovery (b) if so, the details regarding the of their dues. outlay for this project? Countr'es helping India to acquire THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE high technology MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) 11. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of INOUSTR Y be pleased (b) The actual details of the outlay are to elate: being worked out and are expected to be (a) the names of the countries whiclt known within a few months. offered belp- to India in its bid to acquire higb technology; Losses Suffered by IDPL. Hyderabad (b) tbe terms and conditions thereof; 13. SHRI C. SAMBU : Will the Minister and of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) the reaction of Government there .. (a) whether it is a fact that IDPL to ? (Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited), Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE suffering huge losses; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY (b) if SOt the - losses during 1983-84. OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· 1984:-85 and 1985.86; and CHALAM) : (a) to (c). During the c()ur~e of loint Commission/Joint Committee (c) whether Government have taken any m~etin88 and the vitit. 0' di'Qitori~s to .P~ acti()D to - n~m4>ve tb.sc 'QSS~1i anQ to Sl Written Atrswers NOVSMIER 4. 1_ purchase durp from IDPL for Ceatral modernisation... for Beedel thermal Government bospitals ? power station with • to... eoat or Ita. 5409 lakbs was received in CEA in Februa17, THB MINISTER OF STATE IN- THB 1985. In tbe tecbno...ecooomic appraisal DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND by CEA, the resktlCturiol of boiler which PETRO.CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY was included in cbe scheme by WBSEB was OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA not considered tecb.ically justified. The SINGH): (a) and (b). The losses suffered scheme was sanctiODcd in May. 1985. The by Indian Durgs and Pharmaceuticals revised saoctioaed COlt of the scbemo is Limited, Hyderabad during the last three Rs. 3581 lakhs comprisiDI a •. 1118 laths years arc as follows: Centra1 loan assistaDce aod Rs. 2463 lakhs under State pla-n. The scbeme envisages aug (In Rs. /Crores) mentation of electrostatic precipitators aJoDg with asb disposal system, refurbisbment of 4.26 1983-84 boiler feed pump land condensate pumP. coal handling system, milling system, 9.09 1984·8·5 renovation of marshaHiDI yard etc. The various renovation activities are under 1985·86 7.36 different stalet of implementation by West Bengal State Electricity Board. (c) At the instance of tbe Government the company set up an in-house. task force Joint Sector Coal Project to identify the constraints and opportuoities in respect of each of its p1ants and to come out with concrete plan for their rehabilita IS. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: Will tbe Minister of ENERGY tion and revival. On tbe basis of anaiysis be p1eased to state : . made by tbe task foroe, the company is considering the rehabilitation plan. A!I (a) whether tbere is any proposal under regards purchase of drugs from IDPL by tbe consideration of tbe Union Ooverr,meot O\)vernment hospitals etc., Government for joint sector coal project b~twecn Central in~tru;tion' already exist for giving purchase arad State Governments; preference in favour' or public sector drua companies. including IDPL. (b) if so, the details thereof; aDd Modernisation Scheme for Bandel (c) if not, the reasons thereof? Therma I Power Station Project, West Bengal THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHR! t( VASANT SATHE) : (8) No. Sir. 14. SHRI R.P. DAS : Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise. (a) the details of modernisation scheme (c) No such proposal is under tbe for Bandel Therma1 Power Station project consideration tbe Central Government at given by West Bengal Government to the present. Union Government with the date of proposal; OpenlDI of New POlt Offices, Telegraph (b) tbe action taken regarding this Offices .ltd Telepboae Esche_aea In proposal; and Orisl. (c) the present position of the laid 16. SHRI SOMNATH IlATH : Will tbe N.inister of COMMUNICATIONS be proposals? pleaaed to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN T'RB DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB THB MINIStER OF ENERGY (SHill . MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS VASANT SATHE) : (a) Tbe Department of (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN nEV): (a) NOD-Conventional. Energy Sources has POItal : At present there are 7535 Post prepared a 'Perspective Plan up to year 2001 Offices functioning in Orissa Circle out of AD. In terms of tbis Perspective Plan. which 6989 are located in rural areas. efforts will be made to lencrate/save encrl' There are no targets to open more Post equivalent to 24.68 million tonnes of coal Offices during tbe current year. replacement by the end of the Seventh Plan period. Telecommunications: The taraets for Telephone axcbanges and telegraph offices (b) Under the National Project on are as follows : Biogas Development. 6.92 lakbs Family Size Biolas Plants have been instaJled Telephone Exchanges-28 tb rougb out the country so far. 198 Community /Institutional Biogas Plants have Telegraph omces~l00 also been established. 21.40 lakhs Improved Cbulhas have beeD installed in rural and (b) Postal: No. Sir. urban households under tbe National Programme on Improved Cbulbas. Mor. Telecommunications: Yes, Sir. than 1000 Solar Thermal Systems such as Water Hcating Systems, etc. have also been (c) Postal: The targets fixed for 1984 .. 85 installed both in tbe domestic and industrial and J 985-86 were 90 and 92 Post Offices sectors. These systems have a total respectively. These targets could not be collector area of 41,140 square metres. implemented on account of the ban o~ 3300 street liahts have been provided in creation of posts. However, on the basIs more than 250 villages through solar of a special relaxation, 3 Post Offices one photovoltaic technology. Under the Urjagram each in Keonjhar, Sundergarh ~nd Programme, a bulk of tbe energy needs of Mayurbhanj divisions were opened dUring the villages is being met throu&h various 1984.85. non-conventional enerBY systems. So far 21 such Urjagram projects have been Telecommunications: completed in different parts of the country. ----~------.---- An incineration plant in Delhi to provide Telephone Tele~r8pb 3.75 MW electric power from municipal Exchanges Offices wastes is in advanced stage of completion. Opened Opened Five Wind farms have been commissioned at Okba (Gujarat). 'Mandavi (G uja rat) .... --~-' .. ~------.---~- ... ------Tuticorin (Tamil Nadu), Puri (Orissa) and 1984 .. 85 26 MAX-Ill 135 Deogarh (Maharasbtra) with a total capacity of 3.3 MW. Energy plantation and 1985-86 3S MAX-Ill 116 Gasification programmes bave also been taken up for harnessing biomass for tbe -.. _-_ .. _------_•.. _--- purpose of power Beneration. Tbe annual Generation of Energy through Non. targets in the operational programme, Conventional Sources (National Project for Biogas Development and National Prolramme on Improved 17. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will tbe Cbulhas) have been over achieve~ ever)' year Minister of ~ER.G.Y be 11le~se~ to state: sitlCo 1984·19$S~ , • S5 Written Answers NOVEMBER. 4, 1986 Written Answers 56 [7Ta"lIallon) Hindi Telephone Directory were not available. The manual process takes a 10Dg PubllshlDR or Telephone Directories time owing to large number of entries in these two Metro Cities. 18. SHRI RAM DHAN : Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (c) Delbl : pleased to state: --_.. " _._._ ._--- (a) the policy of tbe Department of Enslish Issue Date of release Telecommunications in regard to time------schedule for publishing Telephonc 1980 issuo 31·3·81 Directories'in Hindi and English; 1982 issue 25-11-82 (b) tbe reasons for publishing the Hindi Telephone Directory later than the English 1984 issue Dec., 1984 one in nelhi and Bombay; Hindi Issue Date of releasc (c) the dates on which the Telephone Directories in Delhi and Bombay were 1980 issue published in Hindi and English during the 21-12-81 last five years; and 1983 issue Feb., 1984 -. ------_._----_.. ---_. (d) when their next IS8ues are goiog to Bombay be published ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE English Issue Date of release MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) 1981 issue 5.02-82 The policy of tbe Government in regard to publishing Telephone Directory is : .983 issue 22-04-83 (1) Telephone Dirctories are to be 1985 issue 29-01-85 published annually. Six monthly alphabetical supplements are to be 1986 issue 11 .. 08-86 brought out in multi-exchange telephone system after issue of Hindi Issue Date of release main Telephone Directory generally to coincide with bulk release of 1980 issue 22-12-80 telephone connections in one or more telepbone exchanges of the 1985 issue 30-12-85 .. system. (2) Wherever there is a demand from (d) Deihl: English Directory 1986 issue more than 15% subscribers of a is ready for issue and will be distributed system, Directories are published during the month of November. 1986. in Devnagari and other regional Hindi Directory is likely to be ready by languages. In such a system, the Decem ber, 1987. Devnagari and English issues of Bombay: English DirectorY--1986. tbe Directories are to be published at intervals staggered by six Hindi DirectorY-1987. months. [Engl/,h] (b) The updating of the information for Hindi Telephone Directory is done manually Sbortage of Raw Material for Paper whereas this work is done by computerised Mills process for English Telephone Directory. ~Otl1PQtef ('lellity (Of lu~atiDa 19. SHR, RADHAl'ANT~ DIOAL ; $1 Wrltle,; Answers KARtfKA 13. 15)08 (SAKA) Written Answers S8 Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased not in a po.ition to take up luch to state: work because of pauci.y of fUDda or other reasons, they should (a) whetber some paper mills are facing involve the Forest Corporations tbe problem of sbortage of raw materia); lor . tbis purposo. However, degraded forest Jands and waste .. (b) if so. (be steps Government propose lands not likely to be taken up by to take to help tbe paper miUs in removing the Forest Departments .od or raw material sbortages; Fotest Corporations, ·in tbe near future, may be considered for (c) whetber Government propose to ask raiSins plantatioDs by tbe forest.. the paper ruiUs t(l grow good quality raw based industries on selective basi, material of their own according to tbeir requirements; and and as pilot projects, after ensurinl tbat the legal status of such lande is not cbanged and Possession (d) if so, tbe guidelines, if any, issued remains with the concerned Fotes, to the State GO\lcroments to lease out land Department and the management to tbe mills for growing bamboos 7 is through joint participation. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (ii) The Forest Departments should DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTIUAL carry out survey of such degraded DEVELOPMENT IN THE MiNISTRY OF areas and then select areas suitable INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA for raiSins industrial plantations CHALAM): (a) Yes, Sir. wHb great care and wjth reference to tbe considerations mentioned (b) The Paper Industry bas b~en above. However, in each such allowed the facility of import of wood ChlPS, case prior approval of the Central pulp and waste .. paper und~r the Open Government sbould be taken. General Licence without any Import duty. Import of wood logs is also p~omoted (iij) Tbe use of forest lands for under the Open Genera} Licence wlth the afforestation purposes even by import duty of 10%. Excise cOl1cessio?s individuals, institutions, etc. under have been extended for use of bagasse In dl1ferent schemes will attract the paper making. provjsions of tbe Forest (Cons) ...... Act, 1980 and hence would require prior approval of tbe Centr,,) (c) The Paper Industry has been advised Government in each casc. to work out suitable schemes for ~evelo~ ment of industry oriented plantations ~n Foreign Participation in Exploration aad consultation with the State Gover~ment 10 ProductioD of Hydrocarbons degraded lands and waste-lands whl~h are not likely to be taken up for plaDtauon~ by the Forest Departments/Forest Corporations 20. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA_ in the near future. CHANDRAN : WjJJ tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL OAS be (d) The Ministry of Agriculture have pleased to state : communicated the followin~ guide1i~es ,to tbe State Governments/UOlon Tern tones (a) whether Government have sought for raising captive plantations by forest foreign participation in tbe exploration and based industries : production of hydrocarbons; (i) As far as possible afforestation/ (b) if so, the names of couDtries with plantations on forest lands ~hould which contracts for the same have been be taken up by tbe Forest Depart finalised, with particulars of si'es allotted/ ments of States/Uolon Territories. leased to tbe respective countries for Where the Forest Departments are exploration; Writl,,, .A"swer" 68 (c) wbetber operatiGel at aDY oi the lites tho d iliculty experionced by tbo' people of 1Ia.. commenoed; and ' tbe area; (d) if 88, tbe iadioge tbereof ? (c) wbetber sanctioned public call offices and telephone exchangos are not THE MINISTBR OF STATB OF THB opened due to paucity of the equipment; MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND and . NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a> to (d). Bids bave been invited (d) if 80, steps proposed to remedy the by tbe Government from experienced situation? internatioDa1 oil companies to explore for oil and natural gas in 27 blocks in tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB offshore areas of Saurashtra and Konkan MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Kerala basins on tbe Western coast and (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Cauvery. Krishna-Godavari, Palar and The information is given in the st~temeDt Mahanadi basins on the Eastern coast. below. The last date for receipt of bids is (b) Yes Sir. December 1, 1986. (c) Sometimes the opening of Public Taking L.P.G. upto CODsumer's Doorstep Can Offices and new telephone exchanges are held up for want of equipment and line 21. SHRIMATI MADHUREB SINGH: stores. Will tbo Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleascd to state : (d) Steps are beina taken to get electro nic excbaDlCs (small size) manufacture in whether the Indian Oil Corporation the country to auament tbe production. bave QOnsidered the poasibility of taking bulk LPG right upto the consumer's Statement doorstep ano to fill the cylinder at site; and - ~"'------'~' ,---_. ------. '---...,.--...... __ Name of No. of No. of (b) if 80, when and at what places tbe district Telephone LODa scheme will come into operation? excbanses distance Public THE MINISTER OF STATE O~ THE Call MINISTR Y OF PETROLBUM AND Offices NATURAL GAS (SHR.I BRAHMA DUTT) : (a), wbetMc • aew kwI coM power sub- dist.ibution .yatem in Kerala durio. the Itatiea hal beea deaiaoed by Rura) period January to September.. 1986, has beeD B1ec&rificMiOD Corpo.tioe;, about 1.43 lakh tonnes. The entire stocks were tupplied frOID tbe Central Pool. (b) if 10, full detaila and features there.. of; aad (c) Yea, Sir. The Government of Kerala have requested (or increased (c) wbetber such stations will bo set up allocation of rice. in all States ? (d) The allocation of rice to KeraJa «,as THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE increased from 1.25 lakh tonnes in May, DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE 1986 to 1.45 lakh tonnes in June, 1986, and MINISTRY Of ENERGY (SHRIMATI further to 1.50 Iakb tonnes per month in SUSHILA ROaTAGI) : (a) and (b). Based July, August and October, 1986. In on tbe developmental work done over tbe September, 1986 tbe allotment was 1.65 lakh last 2-3 years the Rural Electrification tonnes. Corporation bas standardised a new design of low cost 33/11 K V sub-stations for Extra ."'oodgrains for Welt Bengal supply of power to Ibe rural areas. The new design envisag:s use of auto-reclosers 25. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Will to control supply to tbe 11 K V distribution the Minist~r of FOOD AND CIVIL lines. The land requirement is considerably SUPPLIES be pleased to state: reduced and costly civil works including sub-station building and staff quarters are (a) whether the Government of West dispensed witb to a lar&e extent. Bengal has requested for tbe suppJy of extra foodgraios immediately; {c) AU the State Blectricity Boards bave been advised to consider the feasibiljty of (b) jf so, the details thereof; and adopting tbe new design for their States dependinl upon the system requirements (c) the steps taken by Government in and availability of equipment. this regard ? Supply of Foodaraiol to Keral. THE M'INISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL 24. SHRI K. MOHAN DAS Will SUPPLIBS (SHRI GHULAM NABI tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL AZAD): (a) and (b). The Government SUPPLIES be pleased to state: of West Bengal requested for movement of 74 rice rakes and 97 wheat rakes to West (a) tbe total quantity of foodlraios Bengal during October. 1986, to tide over supplied through Fair Price shops in KOtala the situation created by floods. per month; (c) Steps have been takeD to move (b) the total quaD tit, supplied· from the stocks on a priority basis from Orissa, Bihar Central Pool; and Madhya Pradesb, in additioD. to normal movement. (c) whetber Government of Keral. bas requested for 'he enhancement of tbe central Approl'aJ to MallO facture new model allotment; aod car lought by Hlnd"staD Motors (d) if so, abc stopa taken to meet tbe 26. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE : demand? Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE. MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN'ISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL (a) whether Government. have received SUPPLIBS (SaRI OHULAM NABI any proposal from Hindustan l\lvlOJS AZAD) : (a) and (b). Tbe averap montbly seekins its approval for manufacture of a olftako of foodaraiDs throup tho public new model car; 63 W,itten Answers NovsMBER. 4, 1986 Written Answers .64 (b) if 10, the details tbereof and when for exclusive ptoduction in tho small acale tbe project is eXl*ted to be cleared by sector and tho industrial undertakio8S do Governmont; and Dot instal additional machinery, indigenous or imported for acbievina tbo OXCOII (c) wbetber Hindustan Motors would production. Pollowina· a review of tbe stop production of Ambassador model in policy in this CtfnnectiOD_ Oovernment had tbe ligbt of its decision to manufacture new decided to do away with tbe restrictive modol car? conditions in tbe interest of aUlmeatiDI export production. THJ3 MINISTER OF SrAIE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Installation of Digital EJectronic DEVELOPMENf IN THE MINJSfRY OF Tele»boue Exchanges INDUSTRY (SHR.l M, ARUNA. CHALAM) : (a) and (b). The company 28. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHV : Will baa s\lbmitted a proposal to manufacture a the Minister of CO~MUNICATIONS be new model car in col)aborallon witb Mis. pleased to Slate : Isuzu Motors Ltd., Japan whicb wiH be considered in terms of the new automobile policy when formulated. (a) tbe names of citi~sftowns where digital electronic teJepbone exchanges have (c) Does not arise in view of ta) and been installed or are proposed to be in'" (b) above. stalJc::d and the cost/estimated cost of eacb such excbanges; Remo.al of Rest rlction on capacity expaosion In Small Scale Sector (b) wbetber tbese ,",xchangcs are serving or intend to serve rural areas particularly 27. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: places where primary health Centres/Block Will tbe Minister of INDUSIR Y be pleased headquarters/police stations are located; to state: aDd (a) whether Government have removed (c) the extent to which iodiginous restriction on capacity expansion of technology bas been used or is intended' to product8S reserved for smail scal~ sector; be used in tbese exchaoges and tbe foreign and exchanse involved, if any? (b) if 80, tbe steps taken to ensure that THE MINiSTER OF STATE IN THE tbe removal is used for export only and not MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS for domestic consumption and that the same (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) wiH not bave adverse effcct on tbe items Details are furo'sbad in the statement given reserved in small scale sector ? below. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The excbaoses wiJI serve District DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Headquarters and rural areas. DEVBLOPMBNT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· CHALAM): (a) and (b). Having regard (c) (0 23 E-IOB type exchanges at a to the need for increasins exports of various cost of a bout 375 million French Francs products of industries covered by the First and 67 exchanacs of NEAX 61 type at a Schedule of tbe Ind ustries (Development COlt of about 1350 million Japanese Yens and Regulation) Act, Government bad in bave been imported. March, 1981, exempted licensed! registered industrial undertakiDgs from obtaining (ii) A factory has been set up at substantia.l expansion licences in respect of Maokapur, District Gonda (U. P.) to capacities in excess of the licensed capacity indigenously manufacture E·I0B type local/ provided such additional capacity is entirely tandem exchanBea. This factory will supply lor exports. This facility was subject to 5 lakb lincI per year, wben it reacbes tbe ,be conditions that tbe item is Dot reserved full production capacit1. 65 Written A.nswers KAllTIKA J3, 1908 (SAKA) Written A,uwtr s 66 Statement (i) Digital Electronic local/tandem exchanges already commissioned: s. N. Name of Exchanse Capacity Estimated cost in crores of RI. 1. Bombay-Worli In 10,000 Lines 13.19 2. Bombay-Wadala II 10,000 It 13.11 3. Bombay .. Ohatkopar (Local +Tandem) 10,000 .. 13.07 4. Bomba, .. Marol Local 10,000 " 13.12 Bombay-Cooperage V 10,000 13.04 ~. " Bombay ... Marol Tandem 5,000 4.36 6. " 7. Bombay-Kbar III 5,000 •• 8.73 Abmedabad.Railwaypura IV 10,000 12.70 8. " 9. Calcutta-Central II 10,000 ,. 8.99 10,000 8.00 10. Calcutta-TeJepbone Bhavan " 11. Calcutta-Central I 10,000 ,. 8.97 4,000 12. Delbi-Karolbagb Tandem " S.49 Delhi-Rajouri Garden V 10,000 13. " 14.53 10.000 14. Hyderabad -Saifabad " 12.73 15. Kanpur-Lajpatnagar 10.000 .' 10.92 16. Madras-Flower Bazar , 10,000 " 15.52 Madras-Anna Road Tandem > 2,000 17. J " 3,000 18. Pathankot " 3.56 Sriganganagar 3,000 19. " 3.89 (ii) The excbanges under planning/installation: About 200 digital local/tandem electronic exchanges of different siles afe f,>eing plannedl in$taUed in various cities and towns in tbe country. 6' Written Answers Exploration of on In Ker.la anocated to the followinl Projects in the Central Sector: 30. PROP. P. J .. KURtEN: Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND l. Hiodultao Zinc Ltd.-warioua NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Projects (Rampura). (a) the efforts so far made in the 2. Hindultan Copper Ltd. (Khetri). Kerala region for exploration of oil; 3. Pyrites. Phosphates and Chemicals (b) wbether there is a briabt chance of Ltd., Sala.ipara-·... rioua projects. oil being found. in tbis region; and 4. InstrutlllDDt.&ioo Ltd., Kota. (c) if so, the details thereof? S. HMT Ltd.. Ajmcr (various THe MINISTER OF STATE OF THE projects). MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA 6. Hiodustan Salts Ltd .. DUTT) : (a) to (c)'. So far about 4000 Sq~ Km. of geological surveys oDland and 27640 7. Heavy Water Plant at Kota. Line Kms. of seismic survey offshore have been undertaken in Kerala-Konkan basin. 8. Further facilities at Kota. Three offshore exploratory wells drilled so far bave ptoved dry. 9. IDPL joint voatllre. [Tram/al/tm] (c) to (e). IDfonnation is being colJected aod a statement will be laid on tbe Settiol up or Industries 10 Rajasthan Table of the House. 31. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL [English) Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Target of Cement Production during Se.enth Plan (a) whether Government have taken a decision to set up industries in Rajasthan 32. SURI AJOY BISW AS: Will the in the public sector during Seventh Five Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Year Plan; state: (b) if so, the details of such industries (a) the target set for the production of and tbe places in the State where Govern· cement during tbe Seventh Five Year Plan; ment propose to set up these industries; (b) the estimated demand for cement at (c) whether Government also propose the end of tbe Stventb Five Year Plan in to set up any industry during the current the country; and financial year; (c) tbe ateps taken to meet the excess (d) if so, the Dame! of the places where d~mand for cement during the Seventh these industries are proposed to be set up Plan? and by what 'time; and THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (e) if oot. tbe reasons tbelefor ? DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTjlY (SHRI M. ARUNA. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHALAM) : (~) 49 million tonoes. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY (b) 49 million tODDes. OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA CHALAM) : (a) and (b). In the 7th Plan, (c) Besides the efforts ~hicb are being an outl~y or' Rs. 182.45 crores b~s b~q ~a~e to enc9uraso ma~i~um u.tiU8at~OQ 9f 69 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer, 90 existing capacity by removing infrastructural Will the Minister of ENBRGY be constraints. sufficient new capacity .has been pleased to state: sanctioned. 1t f!i expected that the total capacity huild up by the terminal year of (a) whether the Union Government 7th Plan wi11 be around 62 million tonnes have reiterated tbat no thermal or hyde) which wiJ1 be sufficient to meet the power projects will be cleared unlels the estimated demand of a bout 49 miUion concerned State Governments complete the tonnes. process or land acquisition and also provide infrastructural facilities for the purpose: Post Offices wltbout own Hundlngl in . Kera'a (b) jf so, which State Governments have not provided land and other facilities, 33. SHRI T. BASHEER: Win the thus causing delay in setting up of thermal Minister of COMMUNICATJONS be and byde) power projects; and pleased to state: (a) the number of post offices working (c) the steps Oovernment propose to take to instruct the State Governments to in Kerala; clear the land acquisition ? (b) the number or "ost offices without their own buildings in Kerala; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (c) the amount anocated for Kerala to MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI construct new post office buildings during SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) to (c). To Seventh Five Year Plan period? facilitate techno.. economic appraisal of power projects by the Centra] Electricity THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Authority. it is necessary that proposals MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS sponsored by the State avencies should be (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) complete in all respects and necessary inputs The nnmher of post offices working in such as availability of land and water, fuel Kerala Postal Circle is 4748 which includes linkage, environmental and forest clearances 32RO eJCtra-departmental post offices also. and availability of funds etc. are tied up. Land acquisition and .actual provision of (b) In so far a~ exfra.departmental post inrrastructural facilities ;s not a pre-requisite offices are concerned, under the rules. for according techno-economic clearance by accommodation is provided hy the extra .. the Central Electricity Authority. departmental Postma~ters themselves. Out of 1468 departmental post offices, 1261 Allocation or Rice and Wheat fo States offices are located in rented buildings and 207 are in departmental buildings. 35. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: Win the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (c) The amour~t anoeated for Kerala for SUPPLIES be pleased to state: . construction of post office buildings under Annual Plan 1985-86 was Rs. 87.96 lakhs (a) whether it bas been decided by and under Annual Plan 1986·87 Rs. 112.50 Government to anocole 15.98 Jakh tonnes lakhs. The allocations for the remaining of foodgrains for distribution through the three years of the Seventh Plan can be Public Disttibution System during decided onty when the Annual Plans November. 1986; and 1987-88, 1988·89 and 1989·90 of tbe (b) if so, the quantity of rice and wheat Department of Posts are finalised by the anocated to each State? Planning Commission at the appropriate time. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL Delay in Setting up or Thermal aDd SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI Hydel Power Project In States AZAD) : (a) Yes. Sir. 34. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: (b) A statement indicadng tbo required PR. O.S. RAJHANS: ,~f9rmatioD is ~iven below. NOVBMBBJt 4, 1986 Written Answ,rs 72 Statement Allotme"t olloodgraln, ,rom the Central pool to Stale Governm~nt$1 CJn/o" Terrltorle, for November, 1986 ------State/UTa Rice Wbeat TotaJ I 2 3 4 Andbra Pra(Jesb 125.0 21.0 146.0 Assam 40.0 36.4 76.4 Bihar 25.0 72.0 97.0 Guj.rat 20.0 60.0 80.0 Haryaoa 3.5 30.0 33.S aimachlll Practel1l 6.5 5.0 11.5 Jammu and Kashmir 24.0 12.0 36.0 Kam.taka 50.0 25.0 75.0 Ker.l. 125.0 35.0 160.0 MIAy. Pradesb 25.0 50.0 75.0 Mabarasbtra 50.0 60.0 110,0 Manipur 4.0 2.0 6.0 Melbalaya 8.S 2.1 10.6 Na181and 5.0 6.0 11.0 Orissa 10.0 23.0 33.0 Punjab 1.S 15.0 16.5 Rajasthaa 2.0 60.0 62.0 Sikkim 4.5 0,25 4.75 Tamil Nadu . SO.O 30.0 80.0 Tripura 12.S 2.5 15.0 Uttar Pra.... 50.0 45.0 95.0 W~st Beafa' l~S.O 126.0 2~l.O '3 Written Answers KAltTIKA 13, 1988 (SAKA) Writte" Answers ,. 1 2 3 " A and N Islands • • • Arunachal Pradesh 4.5 1.4 5.9 Cbandiaarh 0.5 1.8 2.3 D and N HaveH 0.15 0.0' 0.2 Delhi 25.0 SO.O 75.0 Gao. Daman and Diu 4.5 2.3 6.8 Lakshadweep •• •• •• Mizoram 6.S 1.05 7.55 Pondicherry 1.5 0.3 La Others 1.8 12.08 13.88 (Defence etc.) -"_.-_ .. '_'_'_ -~- ~.~~ -"-.---~- Total 811.45 781.23 1598.68 Allocation to A and N Islands is made 00 quarterly bali•• ••Allocation to Laksbadwe~p is made on annual basis. Introduction of Speed Post Ser,ice Ral"111 retail ,..Iee ., alee .ad betweeo Tri,aodrum and Cocbia ll00dgraID. 37. SHRI V;S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: 36. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISltA : Will the Mini~ter of COMMUNICATIONS SHRI MALI PRAiAB PANDEY: be pleased to state: (a) whether Government' propose to Will tho Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased introduce Speed Post service between to state: Trivandrum and Cocbin; and (a) wh-otber the retail priCe foodaraiGa, particularly rice di.tributed tbrouah radoD (b) if so. when? sbops, bas been ratsed recently; aDd (a) whether his attention bas been Power Geaeration In Salal Hydro-E.ectric drawn to the news item captioned ··Wheat Project lies in open" units clash" appearing in the 'Hindustan Times' OD 17tb September, 1986; 42. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO: WilJ the Minister of ENERGY be (b) if so, tbe reaction of Government pleased to state: in the matter; (a) whether the Sala) Hydro-Electric (c) wbetber an UlV~&tjsatjon bas been Project is ready for starting power genera conducted in tbe mattel and if so, the tion; and results thereof and action takcD io Ibat rcgard; and (b) if so, the time by which tbe project will start power generatjon ? (d) the steps beiDa taken to expand storage facilities for food grains and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE prevent them from losses ? DEPARTMENT OF PO\VER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). All MINiSTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL the major works of the project are in an SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI advanced stage of completion and efforts .are AZAD) : (a) Y es, Sir. being made to commission the project in March, 1987. (b) and (c). A meeting was held in the Ministry in order to resolve tbe dispute [Translation] between tbe Food Corporation of India (FCI) and tbe National Project Construction Sanction to Rural Electrification Scbeme. Corporation . (NPCC). As a result, an of Rajasthan understandinl bas beeD reacbed between tbe two undertakinls. Based on that. tbe 43. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: NPCC bas aarced to resume construction Will tbe Minister of ENEORY be pleased of storage capacity at tbe ceotres allotted to to state : tbem and to band over the completed aodowns to the Fe!. tho numbers of villages and tube wells in Rajasthan which bave not ~!beeD (d) FolloY/ioa stepa are beiDS taken to supplic (b) tbe Dumber of villages in Rajastban (c) the steps Government propoae to affected by power sbortage; and take fo.r furt.r U_.lisation in supply of edible aHa at cheaper rates ? (c) wbether the Union Government propose to sanction the rural electrification THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE schemos forwarded to them by the Rajasthan MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL Government on priority basis and jf so, SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI the time by which tbese schemes will be AZAD): AliocatioD of Imported Edible ona (a) wbether it is a fact that even the first unit of the Farakka Super Thermal 44. SHRI G .S. BASAV ARAJU : Power Station could not start commercial SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: operations till October this year after being SHRI S.M. GURADDI : commissioned in January; (b) tbe reasons tberefor and the steps Will the Minister of FOOD AND being taken to commission the same; and CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (c) how far the power project is behind (8) whether tbe aHocatioo of imported schedule and tbe progress so far made? edibJe oils for distribution has been stepped up during the month of October, 1986; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (b) jf so, whether there is still a sbortage MINJSTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI or oil in the country and the rates have also SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). The been increased; and first unit of 200 MW at Farakltl was 81 Written Answe·rs KARTJKA 13. i908 (SAKA) ,Written Answers 82 synchronised on 1st January, 1986 and bad, manufacturing dry batteries and dry celJs in upto the end or September, 1986, generated India; 183.4 million units. Commercial operation of the unit did not materialize on account (b) whether it is a fact that tbe mainly, of constraints in the Coal Handling manufacturers have compla ined tbat there PJant and the Merry-Go-Round (MOR) are some unscrupulous manufacturers who System for coal transport, thereby calling were tarnishing the image of the industry by for excessive oil support. Delays in tbe making spurious products; . MGR system have resulted from nOD availability of land (in Bihar and West (c) if so. whether any enquiry bas been Bengal) which bas since be~n acquired by made in tbis respect and if 10. what are tbe the respective State autborities and the findings and the action taken against those MGR System is expected to be ready by companies; and March, 1987. The construction of the Coal Handling Plant, which was delayed on (d) whether there is any proposal to account of labour problems, is also expected give relief on batteries to the consumers, if to be completed shortly. so, the details thereof and the action taken by Governm~nt thereon? (c) The first unit of 200 MW (since synchronized) was scheduled to be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE commissioned in May, 1985 and the two DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL remaining units at intervals of six months DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF each thereafter. The second and third units INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA are scheduled to be commissioned by CHALAM) : (a) There are 16 Units December, 1986 and in the first balf of 1987 manufacturing dry batteries and dry cells in respectively. India. The names of the units are as per Statement given below. Decontrol or Molasses (b) to (d). The information is being 46. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Will the collected and will be laid on tbe Table of Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the House. state: Statement (a) whether it is a fact that Government are considering to wholly or partially decontrol molasses which is used for the s. No. Name of tbe Firm production of alcohol; and 1 2 (b) if so, the details and reasons therefor? 1. Mis. Union Carbide Limited, Calcutta. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND 2. Mis. Union Carbide Limited, PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY Secunderabad. OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): and (a) (b). The 3. Mis. Union Carbide Limited, Sri· entire question of control and distribution nagar. of molasses is under the active consideration of Government. 4. Mis. Union Carbide Limited, Madras. Manu racture or dry batterle~ and celli 5. Mis. Indo National Limited. Nellore. 47. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL 6. Mis. Indo National Limited, Tata Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased (A.P.) to state : 7. MIs. Estrella Batteri~8 ~jmit~~. (a) the number .-ad Dame~ of Qoitl llombay, 83 Written Answers NOVBMBBIt 4, 1986' Delhi in collaboration witb FAO/UNDP 1 2 during September, 1986. ,--.~ - - -, Apart from India, tbe other participatina 8. Estrella Batteries Limited. MIs. countries werc Burma. China, Indoncsia, Jalgaon (Mabarasbtra). Korea, Malaysia, Nepal, Pakistan. Philippines, Sri Lanka, Thailand and 9. Gee., Industrial Syndicate MIs. Vietnam. Limited, Allahabad. In the discussions. particular stress was 10. MIs. Oeep Industrial Syndicate laid on scientific and efficient storagc of Limited, Mysore. fondgrains, training in warehouse man_le ment and development of information 11. lA./s. Lakhan Pal National Limited, system. Tbe strategy that emerged from Baroda. the discussions seeks to streDgthen the 12. MIs. Toshiba Anand Batteries Limited, regional network for better inter-country Cochin. cooperation in the post-harvest field. 13. MIs. l.K. Batteries Limited, Bhopal. Commission to Gas Distributors 49. SHRI S.O. OHOLAP: Will the 14. MIs. Punjab Anand Batteries Limited, Mohali (Pudjab). Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 15. MIs. Apte Amalagamation Limited, (a) whether it is a fact that the gas SoJarpur. distributors have demanded increase in their commISSion or alternatively customers 16. MIs. Champion Industries Limited, should take tbe sas from depot at their cost; Sabibabad, Ghaziabad. --.,,~-- .---_.---"---" .---~---. " .. ---~-----. --_._ (b) whether it is a fact that customers are harrassed and are not getting gas Measures to Preserve Foodgralns cylinders in time; 48. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Wi11 the (c) whether tbere is aoy time limit Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES within which tbe distributor must supply be pleased to state: tbe cylinders to tbe customers; and (a) whether tbe Asian and Pacific (d) the action taken by Government in countries have recently discussed the the matter '1 measures to preserve foodgrains ~tock at New Delhi; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) if so, the outcome of the discussions NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA held and the names of the countries DUTT) : (a) Yes Sir. participated; and (b) and (c). LPG distributors are UDder (c) the new strategy proposed to be instructions from the oil companies to adopted to preserve foodgrains for maximum supply refills within 48 bours of a customcrts possible time without any loss? request. While this normally does happen, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbere are times when delays occur in some MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL areas owing to problems in respect of SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI bottling, industrial relations, transportation AZAD) : (a) to (c). A regional workshop etc. on warehouse management· for bag storage of grains and a meeting of National (d) The question of revising tbe dealer's Coordinators' on regional network for grain commission is under tbe cQQsi~~ratio" of post harvest t~bnoloSf WCfo ~e14 _t New tbe Oovei1lm~Dt. 85 Written Answ6rs. KARTIK.A. 1'_ 1.90' (SAKA) More Dlltrlct Court. for Delbl Mini.ter of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to stat, : ~O. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE (a) whether operations of the on aad be pleased to state: Natural Gas Commission have resulted in large scale ponution and extensive damage to (a) wbether there is any proposal to agricultural fields and crops and aquatic and create more district courts in Delhi to bird life; facilitate tbe litigants; and (b) if not. tbe reasons tbereof ? (b) whether reasons for sucb Jarae damage have been investigated; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (c) whether remedial and preventive (SHRI B.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). measures have been taken ? The Government bas recently sanctioned 14 posts of Additional District and Sessions THB MINISTER OF STATB Of THE Judges in the Delhi Higher Judicia) Service. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS, (SHRI BRAHMA [Translation) DUTT) : <.) No, Sir. Demand ror Raising Price or Bread (b) aDd Cc).' Do not arise. However. preventive and remedial measures have been SI. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: taken to control ponution. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : Export of Marotl Cars (a' whether the All India Bread S3. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA Manufacturers Associa tion bas requested NARASIMRARAJA WADIYAR: his Ministry to increase the price of bread: SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: (b) if so, whether Government propose Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be to raise the prices of bread; pleased to state : (c) if 80, the reasons therefor; and (a) whether some countries have shown (d) if not, the reasons therefor? interest in purchasing Matuti cars; THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the names of such countries; MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI (c) whether Governmen t have any AZAD): (a) Yes, Sir. The All India specific proposals to export Maruti cars; Bread Manufacturers' Association has reque and sted for upward revision of price of bread in Delhi. (d) if so. tbe steps taken in tbis (b) to (d). The price of bread in Delhi direction? is statutorily fixed by Delhi Administration THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THB with the concurrence of the Central Govern DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL ment. The representation of the Association DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF has been referred to Delhi Administration. INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. [Eng'"h] (b) Bangladesh. Nepal. Hunlary. Ponutlon and Damage to Agricultural Mauritius, Sri Lanka, Irao aad Zambia. Fields and Crop. due to OperatloD' orONGe (c) Exports have to be rna~ 0)' tbo S2. SQl\t O.G. SWBt.L : Wi~I~· Cbo Mal'\lti Qdyo, Ltd. 1ft NOYBNBBR 4, 1986 Written An.sw#rs aa (4) AW. .... ,_' bave been exported cleared in terms of tile Forest CQalervatioD to Ba~. M" NIP". Neaotiat;ons . Act, 1980. for export to Hunlary are at an advanced "NO. ·(b) Tbe information is beina collected and will be laid on tbe Table of tbe House. c.. ..; .... ,Bar... aHa .... Deihl .ad 14M' .... Cidel ., Telepbe.e Cc) and (d). The Madbya Pradesh authorities bave inthnited that compensatory 54. PR.OF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Will afforestation is proposed to be undertaken tbe MiDitter of COMMUNICATIONS be in twice tbe area of fGrOlt larad (5704 pleased to ItUe : hectares) likely to be submerged by tbe project and tbat 11000 hectares of non-forest (a) wbelher he woutd keep the commit land have been identifted for this purpo*,. ment of coonectilll Baramulta with Delhi Afforestation work has been completed tn ~od other biJ cities in India by telephone; 1000 hectares through the plantation of ~tid 10,25,000 saplings. (~ If 10. wIlea , [Tranl/atlon) THB MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE Allotment of L.P.G. Connections in U.P. MINIS111Y OF COMMUNICATIONS (SaRI SONTOSH MOHAN DeV) : (a) 56. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will Yea. Sir. the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleasod to state: (b) Baramulla is likely to be connected (a) the present number of consumers OD "d", p.lbi ap" otbor hia cities in India by the waiting list for cooking gas connections pbf)f4. ~uri"l tile sevencb plan period. in Uttar Pradesh and maximum period of ladlra Saro\,.r Hydro.Electrlc Project, waiting in this list; and l\fadbya Pradesb (b) tbe stops being taken to provide SS. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Will cooking gas connections to tbo 'consumera in tbo Minister of BNBRGY be pleased to the waitin8 list in this State? state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) wbetber the fate of tbe ambitious NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA 500 MW ladira Sarovar Hydro-electric DUTT) : (a) There are around 6.43 lakh Project in Madbya Pradesh has been bogged persons on the waiting list for LPG connec in uncertainties, in view of fears of tbe 'tions in U.P., tbe earliest of tbem during dOltructioo of forosts in BasCar district; from 1979. (b) tile prolress made in regard to this (b) Release of new LPG cODnectiooa in prQject so 'ar and when it was initiated; tbe country including U.P. is made under tbo annual enrolment programme of tbe Oil (c) whether tbere is any alternative Industry and is determined by ausmentatioD .~~restatioD scheme to compensate for tbe in availability of LPG, bottling capacity, lOIS of trees involved in project so to the as transportation arraoaements and otber maintain ecoiOlY; and infrastructure. bt) If so, &lao d.. U. tbereof ? [English) THB MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE pEr~'™t!N1; OF POWER IN THE AIsl.fance to RaDlganJ P.per Mill. to MINISTRY OP ENERGY (SHRIMATI r ..me Productto. SUStlILA ROHTAGI) : (a) The Indira Sarovar (BOOblbat) Hydroelectric Project 57. DR. SUDHIR ROY : Will the (580 MWj tn Madhya Pradesb was lanc Minister of lNPl,1STRY be pleasc~ tQ lion04 In t97? t~ proJtoI .,,8 fe' '9 90 .t~t~ ; ,. ,', 89 W,lttt1f AnswefS KAttTIKA 13, 1901 (SAKA) -w'rltttfn Answers 9d' (a) whether Government of Iudia, Veil ore and W.u.uapet"'bloala be.. al_dy Government of West Bengal, banks and been placed in Category 'B' and the remain otbe... Buneti} inUIttatlOns ate ready to help ing blocks 01 Nortb Areat district in tbe manll.ment CIf Radlgaoj Paper Mill, CateSory 'C' of backwatd fteD'~ t- Ranis.oj, West Bonsai so that it may resume productiOd; (b), Does Dot arise. (b) if sO, tbe oMtacles in tbe way of New TelepboDe Connections In Deihl reopening the paper mill; and Tele,hoae ESC_DIe. (c) the steps con,templated by Govern 59. DR. KRUPASJNDHV Blft>I : Will ment to remove tbese obstacles? the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (a) the Dumber of Dew telepbooe DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY connectioDS, saDCtioDed/in~alled by Tis OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA Hazari, Idaab, CODnauaht Place and Shakti CHALAM) : (a) to (c). The question of Nagar Telephone Exchanges in Delhi durinl revival and rehabilitation of the Bengal the year 1985 .. 86 in various categories; Paper MiJls located at Ranigaoj, District Burdwan. in the State of West Bengal bas (b) upto wbich year and month these been engaging tbe attention of the Central telephone exchanges have completed tbe and State Governments and the Financial pending list of new telephone cOlfbeclfons Institutions. A rehabilitation scheme was in under geDeial catqory as on 1 Qelober, fact approved by the Institutions/Banks 1986; and based on the merger of the mill with another healthy concern within the Group. However: the promoters have indicated that (c) upto which period the Dew connee for various reasons tbe viability of tbe tion~ in general c!ategdty at" lite), to be sanctioned by tbe end of M*'t~, project bas become doubtful and hence tbe 1981? rehabilitation scheme, as approved, could not be proceeded with. The Institutions are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB examining as to what furtber action can be MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS taken in the matter. (SHRI SONTOSlt MOHAN DEV): (a) The information is given in the' statoment below. Declaratio.. of TirupaUur. Vaoiambadi ami Ranlpet a8 Industrially Backward Areal (b) The information is liven below: 58. SHRI A. JAY AMOHAN : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Exchanae Date upto state : whicb cODnectio._ r..... · (a) whetber Government have an~ proposal to declare TirupaUur, Vaniambadl. ,-_.,._-..- .. ~--.. ~~~----...... ,_- ---.-~-----.... ~--, ...... _---- Ranipet and other contiguous areas as 1. Tis' Hauri industrially backward areas; and 16.4.86 2. Idsab (b) if so. by when ? 31.12.83 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 3. Coonaught Place 15.3.8~ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL . (Kidwai Bbavan) DEVBLOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· 4. Sbakti Nqar 12.3.80 CHALAM): (a) Tirupattur. Vaniambadi. ~h Written Answers NOVSl\(BBR 4, 1986 Written Answers 92- (c) Dotal .. aro siven below: ExcbaDao Waiting list likely to be cleared upto ----~, 1. Til Hazari April, 1986 2. Jdsab April, 1984 3. Connausbt Place (Kidwai Dbavan) March, 1983 4. Sbakti Naaar Marcb, 1980 Statement Number 0/ new Telephone Connection, lanctlolled durill, the year 1985.86 in various categorlel I" Delhi Telephone3 and Inlta/led durlllg the yel4r Excbaoao OYT-O OYT-S N-OYT- N-OYT- N-OYT- Total Total S8 Spl. Gen). Sanc instal tioned led 1. Tis Hazari 182 123 18 116 8971 9410 9339 2. Idaab 481- 36 8 275 ~035 3835 3808 3. Coonaugbt Place 89 131 13 34 332 599 543 (K/Bbavan) 4. Shakti Nagar 14 20 13 84 154 285 268 Total 766 310 52 509 12492 14129 13958 ~ ~ -- ._-_------_. -~.-----.' --- .. ~--~ ..... - ...... ~,. ------_ Japanese LoaD to Maratl Vd,og Ltd. (e) whether tbe Maruti Udyog Ltd. also propose to set up a unit in Aodbra Pradesb 60. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the out of tbe loan; and Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to stato : (f) if so. 4ctails tbereof and jf not reasons therefor? (a) whether it is a fact that Maruti UdYOI Ltd. have becn granted a loan of five billion ycn from Japan; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (b) if so, tbe terms and conditions of DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF the loan and wben it is expected to be INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA repaid; CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) tbe extent to which tbis amount (b) The rate of interest applicable for will help tbe Maruti Udyog in its develop the entire period of loan will bc 0.5% p.a. ment; below Japanese LODa Term Prime Rate (JLTPR) prevailing on the date of draw (d) the extent to wbich tbe production down. The Joan is expected to be repaid of cars will improve to moet tbe demand in one bullet instal mont in September, aDd ~rol8O tbe waitlDI period; 1996. I. 9i Wrlttelt Answers Written Answers 94 (c) Tbe Joan will help Maruli Udyog tbere is jUitification for additional man Ltd. to reduce the interest COlt. power. Extra .. departmental employees wbo are mainly employod in rural areas on (d) Marad UdYOI hal DOW attained its part-time basil. when surplus to immediate full installed production capacity. requirements, are wait-listed and offered vacancies that may arise lubsequeo tly in (e) No, Sir. post offices in adjoining areal. (f) Does Dot arise. Telex Service In Leb aad Karail Districts of Ladakh Clo.IDI of Post OtBcel 62. SHRl P. NAMGY AL : Will tbe 61. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : pleased to state: (a) wbelber Government propose to (a) whether people of Ladakh bad been close a largo number of Post Offices; requesting Union GoveJnment to introduce telex services in the two districts of Leb and (b) if so, the details thereof. State KarsH of Ladakh; wise; (b) whether due to lack of efficient (c) tbe grounds on which these are communication system in the region, the being closed;., and tourists particularly foreigners, tbe national news media, tbe AU India Radio' and the (d) tbe steps takeD to absorb tbe staff Indian Airlines are faciDI sreat hardships to tbrown out of employment on tbis communicate important massales outside the account? rosion; THE MINISTBR. OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) if so, whether Government will (SHRl SONTOSH MOHAN DBV): (a) connect Lcb and Karsil district beao No, Sir. quarters with Srinagar and DeJbi by Telex service; and (b) In view of roply to patt (a) above, tho q~estion does not arise. (d) if not, the reasons therefor? (c) Accordinl to tbo Dormal establish THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment procedures, tbe work output and cost MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS and income of post officers are rcview~d (SMRl SONTOSH MOHAN DEY): (a) periodically. Sucb of tbose officos wpicb A reference from tbe Hoo'able member in do not have sufficient work or are not able tbis Conn"Uon is recently received and is to earn tbe mininum prescribed revenue are under examination. liable to be closed. Under tbese provisions lome of tbe potet offices have ~een dis (b) No specific difficulty has been continued. Purtber. in both rural and reported by tourists, national news media. urban areas, minimom distanccs bet weeD aDd tbe Indian Airlines. Teleprinter circuit two post offices are prescribed. Post between Srinagar-Leb is provided and offices opened in tbe past within tbo Telearapb Traffic for Leh and Karail is diltaDCC limits are also reviewed and may passed OD tbis circuit. be discontinued if found redundant to actual traffic requirements. (c) and (d). This wiJl be considered (4) The departmental staff surplus ill based OD demand for teJex facility at Leb ODe olBce are posted iD other 0" wbere and Kal'lil. penolN ~D' tb ~u.at CMtes/ Scheduled TriM ...... , ItJHItlaeJy} a.e."" CMt./S.. aled Tribe. and ..,107",18 T.IMO.manleatioD DepartMent, Delhi (b) the total dumber of et.bpldyees workiDg in tbis department on per~ent 63. SHRI R.P. SUMAN : wm the and temporary basis 8eparatfSly and tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be number of perSODS beJoDBiD8 to Scheduled pleased to state : Castes/Scheduled Tribes among thom ? (a) Total Dumber of staff in Scheduled Castes Scheduled Tribes Telephone Deptt. in Delhi ------~~, ... ------~'~-~~---. ..__...... _- Officers 633 81 2 Employees 22,151 5259 695 (b) Total .umber of employees Scheduled Castes Scheduled Tribes iD tbe Departtncnt --_-----_. .. ~-.--~ .. -~- --_--- PC'tfDabeDt 164,354 27,213 6138 Temporary 132,391 26.348 6850 lEn,n.h] THB MINIS1'SR Of STATB IN TltE DEPARTMENT OF IN DUSTRIA'L Repreaentati.es of FioaociallnttftuttGn. DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY ID Boards of Prl.ate Companies OJ? IN'OUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. CHALAM) : (.) which are the private sector (b) 10 tbe joint sector from of projects, companies in which tbe public financial tbe qpaotum of asaociation of private Institutions, state-level industrial develop capital In projeGte. promoted by State ment corporations, the Government, IndUSlrial Developmeat Corporations bas nationalised banks etc., bold 25 per ceot or been prescribed in· .IMb a maDDer tbat tbe more of equity cal'ital; power of cootrol and pidaDct of tbe aft'.ia ·of the 1IGdertaldq remains effectively (b) whether joint sector form is different with tbe State Iaduatrial Development trom tile abo\to type of eqoky participation; Corporations. and (c) Letters of intent for joint sector (c) tbe names of tbe joint sector com projects are IIncrally 8ranted to State panies in which at Jeast one private pro Industrial Development/Investment Corpora motor is ei~ber ao MRTP/PBRA Company tions who lub.seqendy nelotiate with the or their associate? private co-promotet. befote tbe jdiDt sector 97 Wrltl411 An,.",., KAItTlKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Wrlttell A"swe"w t. company il informed. Information regard. LOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF inl co-promote1'l il not maintained INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): centrally. (a) and (b). This matter is under considera tion of tbe Government. Power DeDland and Production In Ker.l" Utilization of Sugarcane and Import aDd CODsumptlon of SUlar 6S. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: win tbe 67. SHRI BALASAHBB VIKHB Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: PATIL: Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (a) the total power demand In Kerala and tbe production at present; (a) the utilisation of sugarcane durin. 1984 .. 85 State-wise; and (b) what will be its power requi rement by the end of the Seventh Plan period; aod (b) the consumption of sUlar durioa 1985·86 (including defence requirement) (c) tbe steps being taken to meet that along with break-up of imported and demand 'I indigenous sugar, State-wise? THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE THB MINISTBR OF STATB IN THB DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL MINISTRY OF BNERGY (SHRIMATI SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI SUSHILA 1l0HTAGJ,): (a) Tbe present AZAD) : (a) Statement-I Ihowinl State enerlY requirement in Kerala is about IS.7 wise utilisation of sugar-cane for manufac MU/day aaainlt which tho availabity is ture of sugar by the sugar factories during tbe about 12.7 MU/day. season 1984-85 is given below. (b) Statement-II showing State-wise (b) The anticipated energy requirement consumption of sugar during ihe year 1985:86 in tbe terminal year of tbe Seventh Plan in respect of indigenous sugar and imported period in Kerala will be about 8647 Million lugar is given be10w. Units. Statemeot.f (c) In order to meet tbe present demand, assistance to tbe extent possible is being Slatew/Je cane crlUlled d""l16 1984-85 provided to Kerala from the neighbouring Sugar year (Octobtr-Sept~mber) systems in the region. New capacity addition of 530 MW ill envisaged in Kerala ('000 Tonnes) during the Seventh Plan period out of State which 427.5 MW bas already been com ~ -- .-~ .-.------.----.-.---~ .---~--- missioned. The State would also receive 1 2 its share of power from the Central Sector PrQiects in the Southern Region. Uttar Pradesh 15450 Comprehensive Automobile Policy Bibar 1521 66. SHRI SHARAD DIOHE: Will West Benaal 8 the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : ' Assam 37 (a) whether it is a fact that a qom .. Haryana 1467 preboDsive automobilo policy is being Punjab 1339 formulated by Government; and (b) if so, when, and tbe main problems Rajasthan 182 it is Ukely to deal with ? Madhya Pradesh 548 THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE P13P~ltTMBNT OF IN!>USTRI/l~ D~V~- Qrisq 151 99 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Written A"$W~r8 10C) ...... _..... -- 1 2 1 2 Tamil Nadu 6288 Maharashtra 20834 Pondicberry 309 Gujarat 3717 Nagaland 25 Karnataka 4237 Ooa 80 Kerala 90 All India 600S7 Andbra Pradesh 3774 Statement II ('000 ronne.) State-wise cOj"~umption 0/ sugar during 1985~86 sugar year (October-September) State/Union Tarritory Indigenous SUlar Imported sugar upto 31 at March durin8 wholo 1986 sugar year 1985-86 (Provisional) 1 2 3 -'...-...... __ ... _ ..... ------~" --~ ..... ------1. Andbra Pradesh 138 95 2. Assam! Aruoachal Pradesh 79 25 3. Bihar 118 142 4. Gujarat/Oadar Nagar Haveli 222 79 5. Maharashtra 484 172 6. Kerala/Laksahdweep 131 S7 7. Madbya Pradesh 174 24S 8. Tamil Nadu 192 82 9. Karnataka IS6 24 10. Orissa 28 54 11. Punjab 176 92 12. Haryana ·86 41 13. Rajasthan 111 114 14· Uttar Pfad~8l\ '47 2!a 101 Written Answers KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 .,.-.--~.------.-----~ 2 3 1S. West Bengal 167 163 16. Jammu aod Kashmir 20 10 Delhi 1.7. 47 148 Himachal Pradesh 18. 16 8 19. Manipur s 20. Tripura 1 9 21. Pondicberry/Karaikal/Mah~'Yanam 4 Negligibie Goa, Daman, Diu 22. 9 2 21. Nagaland 4 Chandigarh 24. Negligible :5. Mizoram 26. Megha'aya 2 :'7. Andaman Nicobar 28. Sikkim/Rbutan 2 29. Defence 34 AU India 2750 J787 NegJigibJe = Below 500 Tonnes. Opening of Mobile Fair Price Shops in THE MI:~JSTER OF STATE IN THE Hilly Area. MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI 68. SHRI UfTAM RATHOD: Will AZAD: (8) According to information the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL received from State Governments/Union SUPPLIES be pleased fO state : Territory Administrations, as on 30.6.1986, 153 mobile fair price shops were operating (a) the areas in whicb mobile fair price in billy, remote, far·flung and inaccessibJe shops are operating now in hilly and areas of Assam, Bibar, Gujarat. Maharashtra inaccessible areas; Orissa, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh. t (b) whether any schemes have been (b) aDd (c). For helping tbe States in drawn up to furtber expand the network of operating additjonal rnohile fair price shops mobile fair price shops; and in Integrated Tribal Development project areas, the Central Government provided assistance to the foHowing States : (c) if so, the details tbereof ? 103 W, itfen Answers. NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 104 State Assistance No. of (Rs. in lakhs) vehicles __ 4"-- ---~.-.-- 1. Bihar 16.73 12 2. Orissa 22.00 11 3. Andhra Pradesb 6.00 3 4. Assam 5.29 3 5. Rajasthan 8.00 4 6. Madhya ,Pradesh 37.00 20 Total 95.02 53 During the financial year 1986·87. a vans for operating mobiie fair price shops in sum of Rs. 19.00 lakhs was released to the the interior areas of the State. Government of Manipur for purchase of 9 . Revamping of LPG Distribution System (a) tbe steps taken to supply electricity of I.O.C. to different areas of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar aDd the amount beiDg spent for this 69. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA ~ purpose; Wi1J the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) the amount speDt during the current (a) whether the Indian Oil Corporation financial year to electrify the rural areas of is considering revamping its LPG distribution Bihar: system; and (c) tbe amount spent in Uttar Pradesb (b) whether consumers would be given and Delhi for the same purpose; the option of choosing any draler they like? (d) whether power houses are required THE MINISTER Of STATE OF THE to be set up for completion of the electri ~lINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND fication programme in different parts of N i\ TURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA- Uttar Pradesh and Bihar 'aDd for supply of DUTT): (a) and (b). Revamping the adequate power in all the areas; LPG distribution system with a view to impr:oving service to consumers is a conti (e) if so, whetber Government have nuouS process. Recently the oil marketing given clearance in tbis regard; and companies, including Indian Oil Corporation, have introduced an experimenta1 scheme, (f) if so, the details tbereof and jf no initially in the metropolitan cilies enabling new power house is beina commissioned set LPG consumers to switch over from one up or delay is being caused in setting up 8 distributor to another distrihutor of their certain pow.:r bouse during tbe current choice (including inter company transfer). financial year in Bihar I the reasons therefor , r Trans/arion) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Eh'ctrific:ution of Rural Areas of U.P. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB and Bihu,. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAOI) : (a) In order to 70. SHRI KAt I PRASAD PANDEY: improve the power supply in Uttar Paadesh Will the Minister of .ENERGY be pleased and Bibar. capacity of J794 MW and 478.9 to state: MW ftl1)eCtively il proposed to be added lOS Wrlt/tn Answers KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 106 durioS the Seventh plan period. The other SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b). Propo measures beina taken inter-alia include sals concernimt import of Captive Power (i) Implementation of Centrally Sponsored Plants are considered by the Eml'~wered Renovation and Modernisation Scheme; Committee in the DepU. of rndustrial (ii) Expeditious commissioning of on-Ioing Development. projects; (iii) Reducina Transmission and distribution losses; (iv) Energy Conservation There is no change in the present policy etc. in this regard which has been in operation since 1983. Tbe Planning Commission have recom mended outlays of Rs. 339~ crores and Opening of Super Bazar Mr._ncbes 10 Rs. 1065 crores for the Power Sector during NOIDA tbe Seventh Plan period for these States respectively. 72. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (b) and (c). The outlay approved by SUPPLIES be pleased to !.tate : tbe Planning Commission for undertaking Rura' Electrification Programme in the (a) whether trucks/tempos of Super States of Bibar and Uttar Pradesh and Bazar are at present being sent to NOIDA Union Territory of Delhi during tbe current area for sale of articles; financial year are Rs. 3791 lakhs, Rs. 5472 lakhs and Rs. 60 lakhs respectively. (b) whether Government have aoy proposal to open 2- 3 branches ()f Super (d) and (f). Yes, Sir. Keeping in view Bazar in NOIDA area; and the various inputs such as availability of lands, equipments and materials, gestation (c) if so, when and if not, the reason~ period, organisational set-up etc., the therefor? Seventb Plan programme in Bibar envisages commissioning of 220 MW during 1985 .. 86, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 5 MW during 1987-88. 34 MW during 1988- MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL 89 and 219.9 MW during 1989-90. In SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NAB I Uttar Pradesh, a capacity of 210 MW during AZAD): (a) The Cooperative Store 1985-86, 210 MW during 1986·87, 530 MW Limited, (Super Bazar) New Delhi has during 1987·88, 430 MW during 1988-89 informed that two special mobile vans and and 414 MW during 1989-90 is envisaged one regular van of Surer Bazar cover for commissioning. In addition. Bibar and NOIDA. The special mohile vans visit Uttar Pradesh are also entitled to shares daily (excepting the week Iy off day i.e. in power from the Central Projects located Tuesday) and reguhlr mobile van on every in Bastern Region and Northern Region Wednesday. respectively. [English) (b) and (c). The management of Super Bazar has informed that it is not p\,)ssible Scrutiny of Proposals for Import of for tbem to consider opening of a regular Captive Power Plants branch in NOIDA area, which is located in Uttar Pradesh. The bye-Jaws of the Super 71. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: Will the Bazar confine its activities to tbe Union Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Territory of Delhi only. (a) wbetber tighter scrutiny of proposals for import of captive power plants is now Stock of Edible Items with F.e.I. planned; and 73. SHRI SYED S'HAHABUDDIN: (b) jf so. tbe reasons for tbia sudden Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL change in approach? SUPPLIES be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATB IN ,THE (a) the quantity and value of stocks of DEPARTMENT OF POWER 'IN THE various ccUhle items with the Food Corpo MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI ration of Jodia as on 30-9-86; 107 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Allswels 108 (b) the maximum authorised level of (a) the total cost per tonne of wheat buffer stocks for each item; from procurement to distribution to the consumer; (c). tbe estimated co~t of the proposed inventory; and (b) whether Government have constituted any committee to examine the matter with a (d) the mode of financing the inventory view to reduce tbis cost; and and the estimated amount payable as interest by tbe Corporation in respect of this (c) if not, whether Government propose inventory? to constitute such a committee giving fair representation to farmers and ~onsumers ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVJL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL AZAD) : (a) The quantity and value of SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI foodarains and food-stuff beld by Food AZAD) : (a) In addition to the support Corporation of India on 30th September. price of the wheat declared by the Govern 1986 is estimated as under :- ment @ Rs. 162 per quinta). the procure ment incidentals and distribution cost in tbe Budget Estimates 1986-87 are estimated Value Commodity Qty. in to be Rs. 33.97 and Rs. 56.65 per quintal (Rs. Crores) lakhs respectively. tonnes estimated (b) and (c). A committee of Senior Wheat 99.70 1986.45 Officers of tbe Department of Food, the Department of Administrative Reforms and Rice (including 57.59 \445.89 tbe Ministry of Finance W8.S set up to look paddy in terms of into tbe operational costs of tbe Food rice) Corporation of India with special reference to the accounting system. The Committee Other grains 0.03 1.43 submitted its report in June, 1986. The recommendations made by the Committee Sugar 2.71 117.03 are in the process of implementation. ------...., (b) As per buffer stocking policy of Power Generation Target foodgrains, tbe total stocks with public agencies as on the 1 st October should be 75. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH 6.S million tonnes of rice and 11.3 million PATIL : Will the Minister of ENERGY be tonnes of wheat. pleased to state : Cc) The total estimated cost of stock (a) tbe total p07ler generation target inventory with Food Corporation of India for 1986-87; was Rs. 3SS0.80 crores as on 30th September. 1986. (b) the actual generation upto August, (d) The stocks are financed with the 1986, vis-a-vis tbe proportionate target; help of borrowings from a cODsortium of banks. The total interest to be incurred (c) whether tbere bas been a shortfall during 1986-87 is estimated at Rs. 629.00 in tbe achievement; crores. (d) if so, tbe reasons therefor and steps Committee to assess o,erhead charges taken to achieve tbe annual target; and OD Wbeat Procurement (e) the plant 19ad factor achieved upto 74. SHRI BIRINDER SINGH: Will August, 1986 ·and its comparision with last tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL year·. figure and tbe reasons for tbe worse SUPPLIBS be pleased to state: performance, If' any ? 109 Wrlttell Answer" KARTIKA J3, 1908 (SAKA) Writtell Answers J 10 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Closure of Petrol/Diesel Pumps In DBPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE KeonJher, Orissa MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) For 1986-87, 77. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will a generation target of 190 billion units bas the Minister of PETROLEUM AND been fixed. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) During the period April-August, (a) tbe number of petrol/diesel pumps 1986, the actual generation was 74.72 billion set in Keonjher district which have been units against the target of 77.35 billion closed down in last three years; units. (b) the reasons for the closure of these petrol/diesel pumps; (c) Ye~t Sir. (c) the steps taken to grant licences to (d) The shortfall in thermal generation the new dealers to open these petro1/diesel has been mainly on account of increase in pumps; and forced outages, some backing down of thermal units necessitated for sometime hy (d) the details thereof? favourable weather conditions, etc. The shortfall in hyde) generation has been THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE mainly on account of low hydet reservoir MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND levels. Various steps have been taken to NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA improve the thermal generation which DUTT) : (a) and (b). No petrol/diesel include expeditious recommissioning of units pump in Keonjher Distt. of Or..issa has been on tong duration forced outages, early closed down during the last 3 years. Two stabilisation of newty commissioned units, retail outlets have become inoperative owing improvement in Operation and Maintenance to financial difficulties of the dealers; in one practices, a~king ma,n manufacturers to of the~e, litigation initiated by the landlord attend to genric equipment deficiencies. is also a reason. (c) and (d). IOC has a plan to let up (e) The Plant Load Factor during t'he one retail outlet dealership at Keoojher and period April-August 1986 was 51.4% as the selection process is under way. against 50.7% during the same period last year. Loss due to Non Production of Raslka Schemes under Non-Conventional Energy 78. SHRI N. SOUNDARARAJAN Units in Tribal Areas Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPJ.lL1ES be pleased to state: 76. DR. K.G. ADIYODI: Will the (a) the number of days the plant of Minister of ENERG Y be pleased to state: 'Rasika9 in Delhi could not work during the summer of 1986, causing a huge loss; (a) the total number of schemes taken up for execution during the current plan (b) whether any enquiry was made in period under non-conventional energy units tbis regard, and if so, the findings thereof; in tribal areas, State-wise; and and (b) the number of schemes taken up in (c) if not, the reasons thereof? Kerala under the above scheme with details regarding area, purpose and coverage '1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The AZAD): (a) to (c). The 'Rasika9 fruit information is being collected and will be drink plant of Modern Food Industries laid on the Table of tbe House. (India) Llmited. an undertaking of the 1 t 1 r,yrittell Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Writte" Answers 112 Ministry, could not work for about 331 hrs. (a) the number of pend ina applications during the summer of 1986 (April-June, for issue of letters of intent for starting 1986). This includes one full day on wbich industries in Tamil Nadu till today; the plant could not wotk at all. On investigation, tbe company found that this (b) number of applications disposed of was mainly because of breakdown of the favourably during the last two yean and filling-cum-crowning section of the plant. the number of applications rejected; aDd Request from Gujurat Government for (c) wbether any new major induitry is Gas Cracker Complex proposed to be set up in Tamil Nadu durin. 1986-87 for industrial development of tbe 79. SHRI RANJITSINGH GAEKWAD: State? Will the Minister of IN DUSTR Y be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) whether Gujarat Government had INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· submitted some time in 1979 an application CHALAM): (a) 58 Industrial Licence for letter of 1ntent for a Gas Cracker applications received under the provisions of Complex; Industries (Development and Regulati('n) Act, '1951 for setting up industries in the (b) whether after detail~d discussions State of Tamil Nadu. are at various stages with the officials of Petroleum Ministry, a of consideration at present. revised application for Letter of Inteot was submi'tted in October, 1985 for a Gas (b) During the years \985 and 1986, Cracker Complex based on utilisation of 8 396 Industrial Licence ap'plicatlons were lakh MTA of Gas; and received for Tamil Nadu. Out of tbese, 106 have since been approved, 233 rejected (c) if so, the reasons for non-clearanc~ and the rest are under various stages of of Gujarat State Petro-Chemicals Complex 1 consideration. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) During the period 1986·87, 152 DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND proposals were received under the provisions PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY of Industries (Development and Regulation) OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAI Act. 1951 for setting up of industries in CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) The State Tamil Nadu. Government uf Gujarat had applied for a Jetter of intent for setting up a ga'i based petrochemical complex in November 1978. Sick Wells The application was closed in March 1979 81. SHRI H.B. PATIL Will the with provision for review in due course of Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL time. GAS be pleased to state: (b) Yes. Sir. (a) the number of sick wells at present alongwitb their locations; (c) Final decision on the application for letter of intent will be taken in due course (b) whether it is a fact that with tbe after a number of issues relating to intensified workover operations, tbe Oil aod availability of feedstock, tying up of Natural Gas Commission has reduced tbe resources etC' are resolved. t number of sick wells; Applications Pending for setting up (c) if so, to what extent; Industries in Tamil Nadu (d) whether there has been addition in 80. SHRI R. ANNANAMBI : Will oil yield with the efficiency io wor~over tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be plea~ed to operations by tbe Oil and Natural Gas state : Commission; and 113 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 (e) if 80, to what extent? SUSHILA ROHT AG I) : (a) No hydro electric project in Orissa has been cleared THE MINISTER'OF STATE OF THE by the Central Electricity Authority (CEA) M'lNISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND so far ,during 1986-87. NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM A DUTT): (a) At the end of August 1986. (b) and (c). The project report in ONOC had 253 sick wells as follows: respect of one scheme, namely, tbe Baragarb Main Canal H,E. project (5 X 2.2 MW) was Eastern Region 46 received in the C.E.A. in June, 1986 and has been examined in the CEA/Central Water Western Region 196 Commission. Comments on various aspects have since been sent to the project Bombay Offshore 11 authorities. 253 Digging of'Offsbore Wens In Orissa 83. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK : (b) to (e). Yes, Sir. The details are Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND as under: NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether some oiJ companies bave Year No. of sick wells Oil gain undertaken the programme to dig offshore at the beginning (Tonnes per wells in Orissa; of the year da~) .... _- ,--- >----. _-- (h) if so, the number of wells dug by 1980 .. 81 446 1718 different oil companies so far; 1981-82 434 2659 (c) how many of these wells proved successful and the number of them proyed 1982·83 455 2223 dry; and 1983 .. 84 447 3222 (d) the details thereof? 1984-85 352 4176 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 1985·86 325 3637 NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) to (d). MIs Natomas Carls berg, USA, drilled two deep wells during Clearance to Hydro-Electric Projects 1975-76. Oil India Limikd have drilled in Orissa by Central Electricity 10 wells, 7 in Mahanadi offshore and 3 in Autbority the North East Coast. However, so far no commercial discovery bas been made. 82. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased Quota or Edible Oil to Andbra Pradelh to state: 84. SHRI S. PAlAKONDRAYUDU : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether Government have taken DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN 'THE recent floods into consideration before MINISTRY OF ENBRGY (SHRIMATI releasing the quota; and 11 S Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 116 (c) if ~o. the detalis of increase in quota (a) the names of places, State-wise which on account of floods ? have been 8urveyed for the sanction of las agencies and petr~l/diesel pumps durin8 the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE last tbree years includiog tbe current financial MINI~TRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL year; SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABT AZAD) : (a) The montbly allocation of (b) the names of places where the imported edible oils to Andbra Pradesh for agencie~ and pumps have since been September. 1986 to November, 1986 is given sanctioned and the criteria for their below: selection; (Qty. in Mts.) (c) whether any fresh proposals are also in the process of survey as aD date and the September, 1986 10,000 names thereof, State-wise; and October. t 986 15,000 (d) the likely dates by which the surveys would be completed and the sanction November, 1986 Under given? considera tion THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) and (c). An additional ad-hoc NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA allocation of 5,000 Mts. of Palmolein was DUTT) : (a) to (d). The effort involved in made to Andhra Pradesh in August. t 986 compilation of the required details would because of Hoods. They were also given an not he commensurate with the purpose increased allocation of 1S,OOO Mts. of sought to be served. imported edible oil in October, 1986. Opening of new Telegrapb Engineering Fire Station or ONGC at Narsapuram Division and Sub ·Dlvisions in A.P. 87. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 85. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUDU: PARASHAR Will the Minister of Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether a number of new Telegraph (a) whether it is a fact that the Oil and Engineering Divisions and Sub-Divisions Natural Gas Commission has started a fire have been sanctioned during the current station at Narsapuram in Andhra Pradesh; financial vear corresponding to secondry and switching areas; (b) If so, the amount spent on that fire (b) if so. the dates thereof for '~ach stat;on? State and Union Territory; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) whether the earlier proposals to MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND create new Telegraph Sub· Div isioDS and NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Divisions on the basis of workload have DUTI) : (a) Yes, Sir. since been shelved; and (b) Rs. 2.96 lakhs. (d) if so, the reasons therefor? Survey regarding Allotment of Gas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Agencies aod Petrol/Diesel J.)umps MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) 86. PROF. NARAIN CHAND No Sir. PARASHAR : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be (b) I n view of rc.-ply to (a). it does not pleased to state: arise. 117 Written Answers KARTIKA 13 .. 1908 (SAKA)" Written Answers I) 8 (c) and (d). The Department bas issued ins (b) if 10. tbe exact number of po.t. tructions to all Telecom. Circles and Majorl sanctioned in ~acb cateaory and tbe detail. Minor Te1ephone Districts to reorganise with effect from wbich they have been filled tbeir Units on the basis of Secondary up a10nawith the break-up lor each State! Switching Areas. As oer this tbe existinl Union Territory; and Telegrapb Bnlineerina/Telepbone Divisions and TeJepbone Districts wi)) be reorganised (0) if Dot fined up 80 (ar, the likely to form Telecom. Districts in Secondary date by which tbey would be filled up Switching Areas.' (containing ODe or more keeping in view the . shortage of s~aff and Revenue Districts). increase in workload? All earlier proposals for creation of new THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Telegraph Engineering Divi:.ioDIl/sub MINISTRY OF' COMMUNICATIONS Divisions will have to be reexamined in the (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) light of the above reorganisation. Yet. Sir. 'This has been done in accordance with the guidelines issued by Ministry of Rctruitment in tbe Posts of Ltnemen. Finance vide O.M. No. 7(i)-E!Coord!86 Technicians. Mechanics, Telephone dated 15-7 .. 1986. Operators and Junior Engineer. (b) and (c). The details of Posts 88. PROF. N ARAIN CHAND sanctioned category and statewise are gi yen PARASHAR : Will the Minister of in the statement below. COM.MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 10 regard to filling up of tbese posts, it may be mentioned that these posts are to be (a) whether a Dumber of posts of fined by the fit:1d units depending upon the ltnem-!n, technicians. mechanics, telephone avaHabtlity of candidates. Where tbe operators and Junior Engineers have been caQ~,1idates are not available, the average ~Jnctioned consequent upon the relaxation :I\~~}uitment period is between one two ~ears in th~ ban on recruitment; . tioending upon the cadre involved. ~'t.s"tem.:t _" -----,.----... ~-.----- .. ".~-~--- --.------... " .. -_-,_ Linemen '(iI'1 .• Tech. TOs. JEs '-___ ... __ ~ ...... ___ "M ___ ~ M ___ ---- -_ .. - _. .. ------.--- ,_._--,.. _----- 1. Andbra 170 33 116 21 2. Bihar 12 1 2 3. Gujarat 372 24 76 30 4. J and K 30 3 S. Karnataka 142 3 4 6. Kerala 3 18 18 7. M.P. 100 - 71 8. Mabarashtra 209 61 149 11 9. N.E. (Assam) 30 3 3 6 2 10. N.W. (Punjab) 1~3 11 11. Orissa 38 12. Rajasthan ISO 4 3 22 31 13. Tamil Nadu ISO 54 14. Uttar Pradesh 70 4 88 38 2 IS. West Bengal ...... _,--_ .. 1711 213 478 134 119 Written ,~Il~wers NOVEMBER 4,1986 Written Answers 120 Promotiorl of Senior Officerl approval of the Appointments Committee of tbe Cabinot on 12-12-85. The Depart 89. PROF. NARAIN CHAND ment of Personnel and Trainina asked for PARASHAR Wilt the Minister of some clarifications wbich were supplied to COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to them duly. Tbe la8t reference to Depart state : ment of Personnel was made on 12tb August-86. (a) whether the orders for promotions of a number of senior officers in tbe (') th~ f'romntions will be ordered De'partments of Posts ·and Telecommunica when tbe approval of the Appointment tions are pending as the Government have Committee of tbe Cabinet is received. still to approve the promotions recommended by the D.P.C, in consultation AliotmeDt of 011 Product AgeDcy to with the U PSC; War Widow. aDd Ex-Sen'cemeo (b) if so, the exact position in this 90. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: regard alongwith tbe number of officers in Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND e.lch Depanment whose cases for promotion NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: are pending for approval alongYt'hh the date with effect from whicb they are under (a) whether any new policy for the consideration of the Government and the allotment of oil product agency has been reasons for delay; and worked out to help war widows and deservins ex-servicemen; and (c) the likely date by which t'he approval would be given and tbe promotions (b) if so, tbe details thereof ? ordered? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE fHE ~HNISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND MINIS fR Y OF COMMUNICATIONS NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) DUlT) : (a) and (b). With effect from the Yes, Sir. 1985-86 Marketing Plan of the oil industry, a separate reservation of 7 i% has been (b) The mformation is as follows: introduced, ror the following categories of persons- (I) Department of POlta 0) Defence Personnel who are The cases of 46 officers of the Postal permanently and severely disabled either in Department for promotion to level II and war or on military duty during peace level 1 of the Senior Administrative Grade time. were submitted to the Appointments Committee of the Cabinet for approval on (ii) Wi do". and motberle.s depend.at 6 .. 11-85 and 17-1-86. The last reference of defence personnel whese busbands/ to tbe Appointments Committee of the guardians are killed while on Military duty Cabinet was made on 11-8· 86 by this either in war or peace. Department. (Iii) Bxtermely deserving cases of tbe' (1) Department of Telecommunication. Ex-Servicemen who have no means of livelihood. A ope meeting was convened on 9·12·85 in consultation with U.P.S.C. to consider selection of officers for appointment Difficulty In Change of ForellD Brand in Lt~vd-(I of Sr. Administrative Grade of Names to IndlaD Name. Indian Telecommunication Service Group 91. SHill ANANDA PATHAK: WJJl cA'. The ope recommended tbe appoint the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to ment of 59 officers to Sr. Administrative state : Grade level-II. The recommendations of the DPe were seot to the Dapartment of (a) the r.. sons for change or Blnaea Personnel and Trainina for obtaiojDI tbe Trade mark to Cfbaca; 121 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 122 (b) whether tbere are difficulties in the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to cbao,iol foreisn brand names into Indian state: brand Dames; and tbe details (c) if so, tbe rea~ons for Dot cbanaiDB Scbeme Installed Est. Cost Date of Status Capacity (Rs. Crores) receipt (MW) in CEA ,---_... __ . 1 2 3 4 5 1983-84 1. Bakreswar 3 X210-=630 682.5 12/83 Cleared by CEA OD 2.5.85 subject to coaJ linkaae by SLC and Eov. clearance etc. 1984-85 NIL 1985-86 2. DPL Bxtension 1 X 210::::8210 220.6 4/85 li) Eov. clearance (T) (Unit .. 7) awaited. (ii) Clearance of Civil Aviation Deptt. awaited. (iii) Coal linkage confiremd by SLC 123 JVritteu Answers NOVEMBER 4.1986 H'ritte" Answers 124 1 2 3 4 s subject to its move ment by rail to be confirmed by Rail ways. 3. MUfshidabad (T) 5 X210+ 2078.0 12/85 (i) Modified report' (Sa8ardilbi) 2 X 500+2050 was received in (Modified Scheme) 12/85. (ii) Coal linka_ Dot yet confirmed by SLC. (iii) Clearance from Deptt. of Environment awaiteod. (iv) Water availabi lity not confirmed by Ministry of Water Resources from JRC Angle. S.T.D. Facilities in States more than 1000 lines as on 1.4.85 have been planned to be provided with STO 93. SHRI AMARSINH RATHA WA : facility during the 7th Plan period. Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) The number and names of tbe cities likely to be provided with STD facility are (8) the number of places which bave pJaced in the statement-ll below. been connected with the S.T.D. facility so far in each State and particularly in Gujorat Statement·I Slat~; (b) tbe criteria adopted for providing SI.No. States No. of stations this facility; aod having STD facility as on (c) the number and names of the cities 30.10.86 likely I to be linked with S.T.D. hcility durina the current year? 2 3 THE MINISTER OF STATE, IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS J. Andbra Pradesh SO (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (8) The Number of places, State-wise, which have 2. Assam 5 been connected with SID facility up to 30.10.86 are· placed in the statement· I 3. Bihar 18 below. STO facility in Gujarat State has been provided at 18 places. 4 •. 0ujarBt 1g (b) As a policy matter, District Head S. Haryana 12 " quarters not yet provided with srD aDd telephone exchanaes with a capacity of 6. Himacbal Pradesh 2 125 Written Answers KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 --'--'~---.-" 1 2 3 2 3 _· ___.~M __ -__ .• ,____ . _____ . ~._.ft'~_~~ ___ ... _ ...... ___ .. ,.. __ 7. Jammu and Kashmir 6 3•. BODgaiaaon Assam 8. Karoataka 31 4. Sibsaaar 9. Kerala 48 S. DaJtonaanj Bibar 10. ~adhya Pradesh 17 6. Junagedb Gujarat 11. Manipur 7. Billimora .. do .. 12. Meahillya 3 8. Gandbidham -do .. 13. Mizoram 9. Surrendrrnaaar -do- 14. Maharashtra 37 10. Oharamsbala 'j 'II i '" ,I'a Himachal 15. Nagaland 2 Pradesh 16. Orissa 8 11. Cbickmanglur 'Karnataka 17. Punjab 15 12. Srirampur Maharashtra 't\ 13. Jafea 18. Rajasthan 9 -do- 19. Sikkim 14. Raigarh Madbya Pradesh 20, Tripura 1 IS. Bhilai -do- 21. Tamil Nadu 67 16. Bikaner Rajasthan 22. Uttar Pradesh 31 17. Nagaur -do- 23. West Bengal 27 18. Sivakasi Tamilnadu 24. Union Territories 11 19. Tbanjavur .. do.. Total 421 20. Ami -do- 21. Purtia West Bengal Statement-II Names of 'hI! Stations likely to be provided wilh STI> lac/Jily during Power Suppl, Poslt'on of Damodar the r("malnlng period 01 current Valley Corporation to West DenKal year (1986.. 8') aDd Bihar SI.No. Name of Name of State 9~ SHRI PURNA CHANDRA station MALIK: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : 2 3 (8) tbe prescnt POwer Supply position of Damodar Vaney Corporation to West 1. Kothagudam Andhra Prade~b Bengal and Bihar durial the last three years, month.wise in comparison to Contractual 2. TUDi -do- position; 127 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 128 (b) the details of the communication required to be carriej out for asseasin& received regarding tbe power supply position tbe exact potential of reserves so .s to of Damodar Valley Corporation; and facilitate IODg-term commitments and supplies . . (c) tbe reaction of Government thereto? Bhopal Ga. Tragedy Compeo.atioQ Ca.e THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE 96. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will tb. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to .tate : SUSHILA ROHTAGJ): (a) to (c). The information is being collected -and wiJI be (a) whether Government are aware of laid on the Table of tbe House. the reported attempts of the Union Carbide Corporation to tamper evidence connected Amount spent by ONGC 00 Drililog with Bhopal gas tragedy compensation case; of Gall 10 Krishna-Godavari Basin and 95. DR. B.L. SHAI'LESH: Will the (b) if so, the steps taken or proposed Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL by Government '1 GAS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) tbe estimated amount spent by the DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND Oil and Natural Gas Commission on drilling PETRO.CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY of Gas in the Krishna.. Godavari basin and OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAY the potential of gas reserves and bow long CHANDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). Tho these are expected to Jast; Government filed an application under (b) whether it is a fact that the ONGC Section 151 of Code of Civil Procedure in is unable to find buyers for the gas struck in tbe Court of District Judge, Bhopal for the Krishna-Godavari basin; and issue of a non .. destruct order restraining the defendant Union Carbide Corporation (c) if so, how it is proposed to utilise (U.C.C.) from damaging, multilaling or this gas and funy exploit tbe present destroying the documents in its custody. reserves '1 Appropriate orders in this reaard have also been passed by the Court. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM .AND Increase In Trame of Telepbone, NATURAL GAS (SHRl BRAHMA Telegraph aDd Po.tal Senicel DUTT): (a) Till M$rcb '86, ONGC had spent a total of 432.08 crores on drilling 97. SHRI NITYANANDA MISHRA : in offshore and onshore areas of Krishna.. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Godavari Basin. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAOA : SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: As on 1.1. J986 reciverable reserves have been estimated at 804.7 million cubic Will the Minister of COMMUNICA exact production potential metres. The TIONS be pleased to state: of gas finds in this basin is yet to be' assessed through further delineation drilling (a) wbether Government are contemplat and extended production testing of !lome of ing to increase tbe tariffs of telephone, the already drilled gas wells. The period telegraph and postal services; and upto which the reserves are expected to last will also depend upon the final assessement (b) if so, the time by which a decision of the potential and coasumer requirements. will be taken in this regard and to what extent it will bring about improvement (b) and (c). Efforts are in hand to in the quality and standard of effiCiency ? locate suitable consumers for onshore gas, wbo can utilise the gas during the period ,?f THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB extended production testina. which is MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 129 Writttn Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (8) (a) tbe number of election petitions aDd (b). There is a continuous review of pending in various High Courts; the costs aDd taritTs in regard to telephone, . telearapb and postal services. (b) tbe details tbereof. . Higb Court· In respect of telecommunication service, wise; if it is decided to adjust tbe rates, the same will be notified in the (c) whether Government propose to official 18zelle and also laid before both introduce any legislation to' make disposal Houses of Parliament under tbe Indian of election petitions within a specified time Telegraph Rules. limit; and Similarly, in case it is decided to adjust (d) if not, the reasons thereof 1 tbe rates for postcards. letters. letter cards, etc., which are included in Schedule I of the Indian Post Office Ac t, prior approval of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Parliament will be. taken. through amend MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE ment of the Indian Post Office Act. (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). Statements I to XIV showing tbe number of The Government is trying to improve pending election petitions are given below. the quality and standard of efficiency in Information is being supplied court-wise and these services irrespective of the tariffs. also for various eJections to tbe Lok Sabha However, adequate resources will help in and State Assemblies as also for biennial modernisa,jon and improvement of the elections to the Council of States and State network. LegisJative Councils. Election Petitions pending in Higb (c) No. Sir. Courts 98. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: (d) Section 86 of the Repre~entation of SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH the People Act, 1951 already provides that MALIK. : election petitions should be tried as expendi· SHRI MANIK REDDY : tious)y as pa5sibJe Bnd every endeavour will be made to conclude the trial within Win t be Minister . of LA WAND six months from the date tbe petition is JUSTICE be pleased to state : presented to the court for trial. Stateoleot-J General Election to the Lok Sablra, 1984-35 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of and pending in the High Courts (Aft on 24.10.1986) ------_._--- "------S. Name of State/Union Election Petitions in the No. territ<'ry Hirh Court - .-.------,.- Filed Disposed PendiDa -. of 0 .... _~ ... _ ..__... ,.., __ ".~~_ .. ______1 2 3 4 s 1. Andbra Pradesh 5 1 4 2. Asaam 2 2 J31 Written Answers NOyEMBER 4, J986 Written AnswerJ 132 ------.__.~-,.--...... ~ ...... ~- -, ~.~ --_ .. _-- - -_ - - _...... _- ~, ..... ~ ,... - ... -; 1 2 3 4 " 5 _... -.----.--... ,--~.,--"' ... -,- 3. Bibar ..., 5 ., 3 4. Gujarat 2 1 1 -5. Haryana 2 2 6. Karnataka 1 7. Kerala .] 8. Jammu aod Kashmir 2 2 9. Madbya Pradesh 2 2 10. Mabarashtra 2 J 11. Orissa 1 12. Punjab 2 2 13. Uttar Pradesh 15 11 4 14. West Bengal 6 1 5 15. Lakshdweep 16. Dadra Nagar and Haveli 1 17. Delhi 4 3 .------~ - . -~.~------. Total 54 27 27 Statement.} I General Election to Lok Sabha, 1980 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of and pending in tbe High Courts (As on 24.10.86) s. No. Name of State/Union Ejection petitions in the territory . High COUtts Filed Disposed Pending of .------.... ---.------~ .. ------~ 1 2 3 4 5 -.. _--- _ ..... -.< __.---.-___. .. -_._.-- --- 1. Andhra Pradesh 1 2. Bihar 14 11 3 3. Gujarat 2 2 133 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 134 ------,... ,_._--- 1 2 3 4 S ___ .... _ ~_~ H~_'" ___ ".~ __ .~ ______--- - 4. HatyaDa 1 1 5. Himachal Pradesh I 6. Jammu and Kashmir 2 1 1 7. KarDataka 1 1 8. Kerala 1 1 9. Madhya Pradesh 4 4 10. Maharashtra 6 5 1 11. Orissa 1 12. Rajasthan 2 2 13. Tamil Nadu 1 1 14. Tripura 2 2 ) 5. Uttar Pradesh 14 13 1 16. West Bengal 2 2 17. Arunachal Pradesh 18. Delhi 2 2 19. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 1 ------ Total 59 53 6 Statement-III Bye.Electlon to the HOUle of the People held In 1981 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of, pending in tbe Hia~ Courts (As on 24.10.86) S. No. Name of State Election Petitions in the Higb Courts Filed Disposed Pending of ------1 2 3 4 5 ---._----,_ ------1. Uttar Pradesh 1 1 Total 1 1 135 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Written Answers 136 1 2 3 5 Bye-El4ctton 10 ,It, Houle 0/'". People Bela In 1982 1. Uttar Pradesh 2 2 2. Tamil Nadu 1 1 Total 3 2 1 -_ ---._._------ Bye-EI,ctlon to the House 0/ the People Held in 198.3 1. Jammu and Kahsmir 2 2 Total 2 2 Bye-Election to the HOlUe of tlte People Held In 1985 1. Bihar 1 1 Total 1 1 By~-Ele~lion to the House 0/ lite P.ople. 1986 1. Uttar Pradesh 1 1 Total 1 1 Statement-IV Biennial Election, to the Council 0/ Slate. Ble"nlel Electlon3. 1984 (AI on 24.10.86) s. No. Name of State/Union Election petitions in tho . territory Hiah Conrt Filed Disposed Pendinl of 1 2 3 4 S 1. Andbra Pradesh 1 1 2. Karnataka 1 1 3. Delhi 3 3 4. Manipur 1 1 , -.---'-- ..... ~ _. ----.-.,.. ~ ...... ----... --~.------,-.. --~ Total 6 S 1 137, Written Answers KARTJKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer.) 138 1 2 3 4 5 Ble""lal·electlon 10 'hi Council 0/ State, 1986 1. Bihar 1 1 --.~.._- - .,~.~-... ~ Total 1 1 StatemeDt·V General Elecllon 10 the Legl,latlve If.Slemblies, 1985 Number of election petitions field. disposed of, peodina in the High Courts (As on 24.10.1986) ",,--'.---- ... ------~-----.. -_..• .,.-----.-~ .. ----"'-~----~- S.No. Name of State/Union Election petitions in the Territory Hiah Courts ----",-,- FHed --- - '''" .... Disposed------Peo-d;ng-_ ." of ------",-- I. Aadhra Pradesh 17 8 9 2. Assam 4 4 3. Bibar 25 4 41 4. Oujarat 5 4 S. Himacbal Pradesh 12 11 1 6. Karoataka 26 7. Maharashtra 26 22 4 8. Madhya Pradlsh S4 44 JO 9. Orissa 8 4 4 10. PUDjab 12 8 11. Rajasthan 24 5 19 12. Sikkim 74 2 13. Uttar Pradesh 74 2S 49 14. Pondicborry 1 1 Total 314 139 175 139 H'ritlell Aw,'wers NOVEMBER 4, J986 Writlen Answers 140 Statement-VI General ElrClion. to Legislalive AJsembliei. 1984 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of, ponding in the High Courts (As on 24.10.1986) - -,------,_._-- ._------_ '_'"_-_ S. No. Name of State/Union Election petitjons in the territory High Courts Piled Disposed peOQID8 of 1 2 3 4 5 - 1. Tamil Nadu 5 2 3 2. Manipur 4 1 3 3. Arunachal Pradesh 1 1 4. Goa, Daman and Diu 1 1 5. Mizoram 1 1 Total 12 6 Statement·VI I General Elec/ion to the Legislative A,semblie6. 1983 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of, pending in the High Courts (As on 24.10.19~6) - ._ ..------.-._------S. No. Name of State/Union Election petitions in the territory Higb Court ------_._------.-----.... ,_ ..... ,.-. __ ._-,_ flied Disposed PendlDg of 1 2 3 4 5 1. Andbra Pradesh 39 36 3 2. Assam 6 6 3. Jammu and Kasbmir 76 24 52 4. Karoataka 22 21 1 5. Meahalaya 5 .5 6. Tripura 4 2 2 7. Delhi 14 14 Total 166 108 58 141 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 142 Statement-VIII General of Elections to the Legi~/Qtivt Auembly. 1982 Number of elettion petition filed, disposed of. pending in the High Court (As OD 24.10.86) . - .,,-----_... --_.... _._-, ... _--_ ...... -_... --_ .. _------_ .. _.. _-----_. ---_._---,-----,---_. __ S. No. Name of State/Union Election petitions in the territory _...... ___ ... ____ .}Ii~b C~!:lrt .___ . ____ .. "._ Filed Disposed pending of ._-----_. 1 2 3 4 S . __ ------_ ... _.. -.. ,,-..... -...... _. ------1. Himachal Pradesh 12 12 2. Haryana 27 27 3. Kerala 15 14 1 4. West Bengal 8 7 1 s. Nagaland 4 3 ------,,_ ...... _ .. _-_ .. __ --- Total 66 63 3 Statement·IX General Electtons 10 the Legislalive As.embl,ea, 1980 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of, pending in the High Courts (As on 24.10.1986) S. No. Name of State/Union Election petitions in the High Court Territory Filed Disposed of Pendiog 1 2 3 4 5 1. Bibar 39 28 11 2. Gujarat S 4 I 3. Kerala 8 8 4. Madhya Pridesh 23 23 s. Mabarasbtra 16 16 6. Manipur 4 4 143 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Wrltt~n Answers 144 1 2 3 4 7. Orissa 4 4 8. Punjab 42 41 1 9. Rajasthan 20 18 2 10. Tamil Nadu 17 17 11. Uttar Pradesh 29 27 2 12. Arunachal Pradesh 1 1 13. Ooa, Daman and Diu 2 2 14. Pondicberry 1 1 ----.-..-- ..... _-_.,_-- -~~.,__-~~.-,.--- . Total 2Jl 194 17 Statement-X General Election 10 the Legi,/alive ,tI&emblles, 1977-78 N umber of election petitions filed. disposed of, pendina in the Hiab Courts (As OD 24.10.198') ------'- •• "---- _-_- _- • -~---~". ---- ,.,," -~.'---~---•• ,~-~--- --~--_. __v __ • _____ ~_~_ s. No. Name of State/Union ~le~tion PetitioDI_ in tbe H~b Co_u~~ ___~ Territory Filed Disposed of PendiDI 1 2 3 4 S --... _- ... _---'--.__ ,,_,_ 1. Andbra Pradesb (18) 21 2J 2. Assam (78) 9 9 3. Bihar (77) 31 31 4. Haryana (17) 1 1 s. Himachal Pradesh (77) 5 S 6. Jammu and Kashmir (77) 19 ~ '7. Karnataka (78) 74 74 8. Kerala (77) 19 19 9. ~adhya Pradesh (77) 28 28 10. Maharashtra (78) 13 13 11. Megbalaya (78) 1 1 14S Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer.s' 146 1 2 3 4 S -._-_._- 12. Nagaland (78) 9 9 13. Orissa (77) 6 6 14. Punjab (77) 16 16 IS. Rajasthan (79) 18 18 16. Sikkim (79) 2 2 17. Tamil Nadu (77) 8 8 18. Uttar Pradesh (77) 37 37 19. West Bengal (77) 1 Union Territories 1. Delhi (77) 4 4 2. Ooa, Daman and Diu (77) ) 3. M ,zoram (79) 2 2 4. Pondicherry (77) 2 2 Total 333 333 Statement-XI B)'~-Electlons to the L~Kislatlve As.emblie" 1982 Number of election petition! filed, disposed of, pending in the High Courts (As on 24.10.1986) S. No. Name of State' Election petitions in the High Courts Filecf ------Oisposed-oC------Pen-dins"· 1 2 3 4 5 1. Madhya Pradesh 1 t 2. Bibar 1 1 Total 2 1 1 147 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 148 ------".__ .._" 1 2 3 4 s Bye.Election to the Legislallve Assembly, 1983.84 1. Kerala 2 1 1 2. Himachal Pradesh 1 1 3. Haryana 3 J 4. Tamil Nadu 11 11 ------.---~-- --- ~--.-- ... _---._------._--- -'- Total 17 16 1 Bye-Eelection to Ihe Legi~/at;ve As,embly. 1985 Haryana 1 1 Total 1 Statement.XII Bye.EleClionl to the Legis/alive tfncmblies, 1980.81 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of. pending in the High Courts (As on 24.10.1986) S. No. Name of State _.. " _~~~~~()_~ ~e~i!~()_~s in the High Courts Filed Disposed of Pending 1 2 3 4 5 1. Rajasthan 1 2. Madbya Pradesh '81t 1 3. Orissa '81' 1 4. Tamil Nadu.. S. Maharashtra 1 1 6. Nagaland 1 1 ------Total 6 s 1 149 Written Answers KAllTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answe, s 1SO Statement-XIII B!ennla' Electlon~ to the L~,I"Qtlve Council" 1984 Number of election petitions filed, disposed of; peodioa in tbe Higb Courts ('\8 Oft 24.10.1986) S .. No. Name 'of State Election Petitions io tbe Hiab Courts Filed disposed of ------Pending I. Andbra Pradesh 3 3 2. Bibar 2 2 3. Karnataka 2 2 4. Uttar Pradesh 12 5 7 5. Maharashtra 1 1 Total 20 11 9 ----".- . ------ BiennfG' Election to th~ Legislative Council, 1985 Mabarashtra 2 2 Total 2 2 Brennial .. E/ectlon 10 the Legis/alive Council, 1986 1. Karnataka 1 1 2. Bihar 1 1 ------,.--~--.. -'---_...-.-- Total 2 2 _,...-- .-...--...... , ... ,-.-.__ .... -., -_- ..... - ,.,-~---- ,--~--.... " .. ~-----' Statement.. XIV Biennial Eltcl/on, to the Legislative Councils Biennial Election, 1978 Number of election petitions filed. disposal of, pending in tbe High Courts (As on 24,10.1986) ----,------'"------_ .. _.. ------,----,.------~ ------Name of State Election Petitions in the Hilh Courts S. No. --- .. ----~."' Filed Disposed of Pending -_.-... _.....,--- -_ .. --'_•.. _---- 4 5 1 2 3 2 1. Aodhra Pradesh 2 2. Tamil Nadu 1 1 1 3. Uttar Prade\h 2 1 4. Maharasbtra 1 6 5 1 Total .. _-_.._..---- 151 Written Answers NOVEMBBR 4, 1986 Written Answers 152 1.018 of FoodiraiD8 due to Sbortage of far it compares with tbe preceding three Storage Capacity years; and 99. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY': (c) tbe seeps being taken to avoid such SHRt DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Josses in f.ture ? SaRI SUBHASH YADAV : THE MINISTER OF 8TA TB IN THE Will the Minister of FOOD ,AND CIVIL MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPL1ES be pleased to state: SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD): (a) There is lome loss to thc (a) whether it is a fact tbat there bas foodarains st\)Cks kept in CAP (Covered and been considerable 10SI of foodgrains for Plinth storalc) in certain places. want of acute shortage of storale capacity in the Northern India; (b) The total )oss in covered and CAP (b) if so, the details of sucb )08S of storage in wheat and rice in the North Zone foodgrains during the current year and bow was as follows : - --.. ~----... ,-----~ .. ---- ...... ~...--..--- ... --,... _---_... Value of Joss %age of Joss to Year Quantity or Storlie loss (lakh tonnes) (Rs./Crorea) quantity issued 30.60 0.85 1982·83 1.46 1.18 26.83 0.82 22.99 0.74 1984-85 1.03 0.54 1985-86 1.17 30.87 ------Delimitation of Parliamentary and The comparative fiiures for 1986-87 namely A"embl, ConIUtuenci •• in tbe current year would be available only after the close of the financial year. 100. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: (c) For reducing losses in open storage, SHRI DHARAM PAL SJNGH tbe steps taken by Food Corporation of MALIK: SHRI MANIK REDDY: India are: SHRI SUBHASH Y ADAV : (a) Provision of better plinths; Will tbe Minister of LAW AND (b) Provision of adequate dunnage; JUSTICE be pleased to state : (c) Better security measures; (a) wbether the Election Commission bas recommcned to Government fresh (d) Better prophylactic and curative delimitation of Parliamentary and Astembly treatment; constitueD(:ies on the basis of 1911 cenlOl; and (e) More polytbene coveres; (b) if 10. whether the matter. hal been (f) Scientific stackiol!!. considered by Government and if 80 the time by which decision is likely to be ;aken The covered lodoWD capacity is also beiDI in reaarcl tbereto ? increased. 153 Written Answers KARTIKA J3, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE based cement plant to be set up at MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE Jamsbedpur; (SHRI B.'ll. BHARDWAJ): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if not~ the reasons therefor and the (b) The proposal forms a part of the period for which the proposal has been set of. proposals OD electoral reforms. pending with the MinistrY; ConsideratioD of these proposa)s is at an " advanced stalo within Government and it (c) whether it is a fact that eerlier proposed to bold consultation with political Government bad decided to allow stec) partios before takinl final decisions. It plants to diverRify into slag.. cement would not be feasible at this stage to manufacturing; indicate tbe time by which final decisions can be takeD. (d) whether some public undertaking bad also applied for a similar licence; and Impact of Speed POlt Scheme on Private (e) if so, the action taken thereon? Courier Services THB MINISTER OF STATE 1N THE 101. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF pleased to state : INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) and (b). Tata Iron aDd Steel Company (a) tbe eXlcnt to which the "Speed Post" (TISeO) had originally submitted a proposal Scheme, introduced more than three months in September, 1984 for setting up of one ago. has been successful; million tonne per annum of Ponland BlaH Furnace Slag Cement on split location basis (b) the impact, if any, it bas brought on with clinkeriDi unit at Maihar (Madhya the private couriers functioning in the Pradesh) and "rinding aDd mixing units at country; and Jamsbedpur (Bihar), utilising the blast furnace slag arising from tbeir Steel Plant at (c) the steps taken to monitor tbe Jamshedpur. SubsequentJy, in October services of tbese private couriers? 1985, tbe Company modified their proposal. In the revised proposal, a unit would be set THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE up at Nipania/Sonadbi in Madbya Pradesh MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (Clinkerisation capacity)-l million tonnes (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) per annum and cement grinding capacity 0.3 The initial response from the public to million tonnes per annum and another unit Speed Pusts Service introduced from at Jamsbedpur (Bihar) (grinding and packjn~~ 1 8.1986 has been quite encouraging. of 1.43 million tonnes per annum of portland Blast Furnace Slag Cement). (b) It is too early to make an assess meot of the impact of the Service on the For this revised proposal, clearance private courier Services. from transportation anale, which is also one of the important element for this big project, (c) Monitoring of the services of private was received from Department of Railways courier bas not been undortaken by tbe in June 1986 only. Presently, the proposaJ Department. nor is if considered necessary is io an advanced stage of processing. to do so. (c) to (c). The Steel Authority of India Slag-baled Cement Plant Ltd. (SAIL) were issued a Letter of Intent in August 1980 for setting up 8 capacity of 102. SHRI P.M. SAYEBD: Will the 2.14 million tOQnes per annum of Slag Minisier of INDUSTRY be pleased to Cement on split location basis at Cbilbati state : (Madhya Pradesh) and Rourkela (Orissa). It was later on decided that this project (a) whether Tata Iron and Steel would be executed by the Cement Company has been issued licence for a slal- Corporation of India Ltd. However, due 1.55 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1-986 Written Answers I S6 to financial constraints tbe Cement (d) 79 posts of Junior· Enaineers trainees Corporation could not 10 abead and there bave been filled up by tbe trained' fore tbe Letter of Intent has since been candid a tes. cancelled in Auauat 1986'0 Similarly, Bibar State Industria) Development Corporation (e) None of these 79 Junior Bo,ioeers Limited were also issued a Letter of Inteot Traioees belon, to Sobeduled Castesl in December 1981 for seUinl up a 0.76 Scheduled Tribes. million tonue per annum Portland Slas Cement unit in Bibar 00 split location basis. Tonlol up Performance of Public Due to uDsatisfactory pro,ress. this Letter Sector Enterprlst's of Intent was treated as lapsed with effect from 1.4.1984. 104. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Minister of INOUSTR Y be pleased to Reser~atlon for Scheduled Caltes and state: Sthedultd Tdbel In, Ba .. aalore (a) whetber it is a fact tbat Government Telephones bave initiated a series of measures recently to tone up tbe performance of tbe 38 public 103. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : Will sector enterprise$ under the Department the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be of Public Enterprises; and pleased to state : (b) if so, tbe details of tbe measures (a) tbe total number of Class III being taken? executive and non-executive posts in Banga'ore Telephones with vacancies, if any; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE (b) tbe number of Scheduled Castes/ LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Scheduled Tribes, both executive and non INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : executive, working at present; (I) Yes, Sir. (c) whetber Goveroment~s reservation (b) Tbe measures initiated by tbe orders have been followed while making Government to tone up the performance of appointments to Class III Posts; the Public Sector Undertakings under tbe administrative control of Department of (d) tbe Dumber of posts of Junior Public Enterprises include periodical review Eogineer trainees filled up; and of performance. timely filling up of Board level vacancies, longer tenure to tbe Chief Executive, provision of funds for modernisa (e) hoW many of them belong to tion aad replacement, assistance in gettios Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes 1 critical inputs like steel, calling for periodic reports on various key performance indices THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and directing the units to exercise greater MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS control on financial resources; to eosure ,SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV) : (8) optimal utilisation of installed 'acHities There are in all 2052 Class 111 executive tbroulb enbanced production and producti posts and 2100 Clas. III non-executive vity, etc. posts in Banplore Telepbones. Vacancies in respect of executive posts are 158 aDd in Clearance to Pepsi Cola project I n Punjab respect of non-executive posts arc 52. (b) At present tbere are 353 Scheduled lOS. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will Castes and 61 Scheduled Tribes working on the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to executive Class-III Posts and 341 Scheduled state: Caltes and 77 SCheduled Tribes working on tbe non-executive Class 111 Posts. (a) whether Government have decided to give clearance to tbe proposed Pepsi (c) Yes Sir. Cola project to b~' set up in Punjab; and IS7 Written Mswe,s KAR. TIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers- 158 (b) if so. tbe details thereof '1 Kerala duriog the Seventb Plan. However, oatlaya bave been provided for expansion THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE of existin& .undertakings and replaceQleDt and DePARfMENT, OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE· renewals, diversification and other' facilitiea LOPMENT IN THE MINISTR. Y OF in exi.tioa Ceotral Industrial Undertakinll INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): in tbe PubHc Sector in Kerala. No decision bas been taken. ONAM Greetlal' In tbe lod,lao (b) Does not arise. Te1earapb GreetiDI' Cod. Proposal to ChaRge De8oltlon of 108. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the Small Seale Industry Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to .tate whether it is proposed to 106. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Win include ONAM greetings in tbe Indian the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Telegraph Greetings Code? State: THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government are considering MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS a proposal to change the definition of the (SHRI SONTO~H MOHAN DBV): Yes, small scale industry sector; and Sir. A proposal to include ONAM Greetings in the Standard Telegram Greeting Phrases (b) if so. the details of the proposal? is under consideration of tbe Department. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Cylinders supplied by 011 Corporatloal DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE· LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF 109. SHRI MURLI OEORA: WiJI the INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : Minister of PETROLEUM AND (a) No, Sir. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) Does not a rise. (a) the total Dumber of cylinders being supplied by the three oil corporations in tbe Central Investment In Industries 10 Kerala country in a month; 107. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will tbe (b) the number of accidents and deaths Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tbat have tak.en place due to leaky or state: defective cylinders in a month on an avtrage during the last three years; and (a) what wi11 be the total central invest .. ment for industries in Kerala during the (c) the steps being taken by tbe Seventh Five Year Plan; and corporations to reduce the incidents of such accidents and also to reduce tbe hazards (b) the new industries coming up in involved in the distribution, storage .and Kerala during tbe Seventh Five Year Plan ? supplies of the cylinders ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF tHE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUm: INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHA· On an average. about 76 lakhs refills LAM): (a) and (b). An outlay of are being supplied every month. approximately Rs. 436.79 crares (exclusive of the outlay provided for expansion pro (b) The avera,e Dumber of LPG gramme of Hindustan Latex Ltd.) bas been related accidents and deaths dUriD. the provided in the Seventh Five Year Plan for last 3 years bas been 16 and 7 per month Central Industrial Undertakinss in the respectively. Separate statistics as to bow Public Sector located in Kera1a. There are many of tbese accidents were caused by no specific outlays for major new CeDtral leaky and defective cylinders are not Industrial projects in the Public Sector in maintained. ..., 159 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Wrltt~n Answers 160 (c) Steps taken in tbis rogard include: Will the Minister of INDUSTR. Y be pJeued to state: (i) Bducatinl the customers in safe handling of LPG equipment tbe number of motor aDd througb Audio-Visual Media, cars trocks manufactured by different autom'obile Safety Advertisements in Dailies and Magazines. manofacluriDa concerns in tbe country year-wise since 1984; (ii) Distribution of safety literature and other instructions at the time of (b) tbe Dumber of sucb cars and truck. release of Dew connections. sold by each of such concerns; and (iii) Organisina customers safety clinics with tbe belp of voluentry (c) tbe amount of forcian exchaoae orlaniaatioos. released to eacb of tbese concerns year-wise since 1984 aDd tbe purpose thereof ? (iv) Or,aoisins trainins for delivery. boys and mechanics of distributers. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DePARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (v) Setting up of Bmeraency Service DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF CeJls at selected locations to attend INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): to emergencies arisins out of LPG (a) and (b). A statement is given below. leakagc on bolidays or beyond tbe working hours of distributorships. Cc) Foreign exchange is released for tbe (vi) Standardisation of LPG equipment import of components, raw materials by importing tecbnology. consumables. etc., under various schemes. Consolidated information on foreign (vii) Incorporation of additional safety excbacge released to each of the concerns in cbecks in tbe bottling plants. tbe Automobile Sector is not maintained. However, information on tbis industry as a Carl aDd Trucks ManufactDred aDd whole is being published in tbe "Monthly Statistics of the Foreign Trade of India, Foreign Exchaoge R~leased to Vol. II Imports" copies of which are availa Manufacturen ble in the Parliament Library. 110. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Statement Production Sales '-~~.-~"-----"----- 1984 1985 1986 1984 1985 1986 (Jan.-Sep. (Jan.-Scp. Approx) Approx) ~ -----._- ~. -~. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 -----._ A. Med. and Hea,y Como. Vebs. Asbok Ley land 14430 15938 10510 14419 15113 10108 Hiodust8n Motors 440 828 578 421 734 595 Premier Auto 379 333 435 3.58 42 TELCO 46740 49217 27917 43771 48308 31471 .. ,_._- _- -- Total 61989 66316 39005 59046 64513 42196 ..... ,~.--.,~.---~, ...... --.--...... ~ -~ .. ~-. ------_-_._ .. __- 161 Wrlt/ltn Answers KARTJKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 162 ..... - ... ~------.- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ___ --.-... -~-'--- ...... -- .... -.... -..,..----- .. ".. r.--... ~.-- , ... -"' ...... -- ...... ~-... -,_, ... ,-.. ------B. Lllbt ComB. Vebl. Allwyn Nissan 1099 1527 1097 J 122 Bajaj Tempo 12906 13987 9918 12991 13987 9346 DCM Toyota 1323 1822 1013 2018 Hind Motors 1867 1583 1101 1855 1553 1157 Mabindra 11515 11577 8500 10570 11636 7926 Premier Auto 573 142 46 518 194 S3 STD Motors 5810 4583 2087 5810 4563 2087 Swaraj Mazda 600 1072 373 1188 Tata Engg. 18 :!366 J938 ------_____'''., __ ~_.~~ ___ ~ __r __~_.~~ ____ Total 32671 349J2 28439 31744 34416 26825 Note : HM LCV includes Trekker (petrol and Diesel) and drive awy chassis. ----- Production Sales 1984 1985 1986 J984 1985 1986 (Jan-Sep. (Jan-Sep. Aaprox) Approx) • ~ ___.~ __ "_" __ c ___ --~-~----~...... ---- ...... _ ... ----_ . C. Carl Hindustan Motors 24376 24064 16896 24337 23477 16048 Maruti UdYOI 12087 4863' 41261 10719 49135 39903 Premier Auto 26620 29223 22782 26245 29283 19790 Sipani Auto 930 523 37 919 462 53 Standard Moton 11 1313 8 1313 - .~--" ..... , .. -... ,..~ ..---- ..... ~-~._- Total 64013 1024S6 82289 62220 10236S 77107 "--- - ..._ ...... __...... __ .c~ ____ , .. I , Note : Lipt Corom. Vehs. includes drive away chassis arid -trekker Manufactured by HiDduatao Motorl and Premier Auto. . 163 Written Answers NOV.BM BBR 4t 1986 Wtltten Answers 164 Power Geaer_tlo" Station at Saprdicbl. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Welt Beapt MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN nEV): (a) 111. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Postal: Statistics of tbe total Dumber of SHRI SYBD MASUDAL employees in the Postal Department circle HOSSAIN: wise in tbe year 1975 and year-wjse (rom 1980 up-to-date ftre given in tbe StatemeDt .. Will the ,Minister of BNERG Y be I below. pleased to state : Telecom: The total number of porsons (a) whether Government have received employed (excluding gazetted officers) in tbe any proposal from the Government" of West Telecommunications Department.Circle-wise Ben,al for setting up of a Power Generating is given in tbe Statement-II below. Station at Salardiabi in West BeDaat; (b) if so, Government's reaction thereon; (b) POltal: Reduction in staff is due and to retirement and non-filling of tbe vacancies. (c) the time by whicb tbe approval is expected to be accordod 1 Telecom: Tbere is insignificant reduction of Staff in some Circles in 1985 as compared THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to staff in 1984 due to economy reasons. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). A (c) Postal: Tbe ban bas recently been proposal for setting up a Thermal Power relexed to the extent that the vacaDcies Station. envisaling installation of S units of arising due to retirement, resignation, 210 MW each and 2 units of 500 MW each removal/dismissal etc. can be filled. at Sagardiabi in tbe Murshidabad District of West Bengal, was received in th" Central Telecom: There is no ban on recruit .. Electricity Authority (CEAl. The scheme is ment of staff. However, due to economy being techno-economically appraised in the reasons new posts are created after stringen t CEA whose clearance could be accorded scrutiny. oob after essential inputs, such as availabi lity of coal and cooling water etc. are tied up, and necessary clearances, including Statemeot .. I clearances from the environmental and civil aviation Inales, become available. Total "umber of Postal employees as Oil 31"3"1975. Reduction In Number of Employees POI tal Circle 112. SHal SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 1. Andhra Pradesh 15,632 be pleased to state : 2. Bihar 12,810 (a) the total number of persons 3. DeJhi employed in tbe Postal and Telecommunica 9.295 tion Departments, "Circle-wise" in 1975 and 4. Oujarat 13,879 year-wise from 1980 up-to-date; S. Jammu aod Kashmir 1,654 (b) if there has been a reduction in tbe number of employees the reasons" therefor; 6~ Karnatakis·-- 11.140 and 7. Kerala 11.239 (c) whether there is any proposal to remove tbe ban on rec:ruitment. if aD), ? 8. Madb),a Pradeab 10.198 165 Writt~,n Answers ICARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 166 9. Mahara.btra 32.144' Total Number 01 Po.t.1 EDlplo,ee. 10. North Bait 7.693 1980 , .. Information is beiDI 11. North West 13.956 collected 12. Oriasa 6.123 1981 2.78,817 J3. Rajasthan ... 8.324 14. Tamil Nadu 25.520 1982 2,83.168 J S. Uttar Pradesh 23,691 1983 2,90.916 16. 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C; ell crJ >- ::t ...... ~ s e c. 0 a as e 0 .! ... :a i-t 0 .D"" ~ .s;= ::s 1 Q -e ~ Q u ] II ... ~ C» ~ IS ::e :I .i c:::I "; a z c:IG ! ~ ...... - ~ ! C c:::I c C w ~ CI Q C 0 ..r III ., tI .2 ...,u 0 cf .2 '" 0 0 ';a CD 0 " ~ ·Sa ~ r ~ t - !» .. 'i ~ ~ ·r ! ~ U D.- B" fo- ~ :.a u- ~ Q CI ., ...... , s S e ~ 0 c" c e ... 0 E .. ., eu ... J u " e J J "C - ~ ~ ... S u c '-- i "i' B 1: :. 0 .a ., S t) ... Jl .. i «I g 0 - -:I 0 ~ • • ~ dJ ~ 0.. ~ W '" Z ~ w fI) Z ~ ~ f!. 173 W,itten Answers KARTJKA J3. 1908 (SAKA) Writtell Answers . 174 Merger of Indian 011 Blending Limited jud,es to be appointed; if so, the details and wUh Indian 011 Corporation response tbereto; 113. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER (d) whetber tbere bas been Inordinate JB~: Win the Minister of PETROLBUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to delay in appointing sucb judges; and state: (e) if 80, the reasons thereror ? (8) whether there is any proposal for merler or tbe undertaking of Indian Oil THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Blending Limited at Calcutta with Indian MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE Oil Corporation Limited; and (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : and (b). The Chief Ministers and Chief Justices (b) if so, Governments reaction there .. concerned with fourteen High Courts were to '1 addressed by the Central Government in June, 1985 to consider ausmentation of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Judge strength for speedy disposal of cases. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND On receipt of proposals, it was aareed to NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM A create 83 new posts of Judges/ Additional DUTT) : (a) No, Sir. Judges in different High Courts. Of these 7 posts have since been formally sanctioned (b) Does not arise. on appointments having been approved against these. A statement showing the Demaod for Increasing Strength at Hjgb Higb Court wise break-up of the remaining Court Judges 76 posts is given below. 114. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD (c) to (e). The Government have again SINGH: written to the Chief Ministers of States SHRIMATI OEETA MUKHER requesting them to send proposals for JEE: appointment of Judges and have inter"alia, reiterated the instructions prescribing Will the Minister of LAW AND a time-scbedule by which the Chief Justices J USTICB be pleased to state : and the State autborities should send their recommendations so that vacancies are filled (a) whether it is a fact that several up expeditious)y. High Courts bave demanded increase in tbe number of their judges for speedy disposal Proposals received for filling up of some of tbe pending cases; vacancies,are at different stages of consi deration. (b> if so, tbe details thereof and Government's reaction thereon; Appointment of' 21 Judges!Additional (c) whether it is also a fact that Judges has been approved by tbe President Government had asked for the names of the and wl1l be notified shortly. Statement DeC/lions to create postl a, 01& 31.10.86 ----.-- ... _------.-----~.------~--.- ... ----.--'-'-' ._----•... ------Sl. No. Hiab Court Pmt. Judges Addl. Judles Tota) ,_., ••• ~ ...... ~ ...... h ____.__, ...... _ .. ,.,. __•• _,.. __ .. ,,_... _ ..., __.~ ".~_ ...... __, .... __ , ....__ • __ ••," ., 1 2 3 4 5 1. Allahabad 2 2 2. Andhra Pradol,b 6 4 10 175 Writte" A "swer,s' NOVEMBER. 4. 1986 Written Ans.wers 176 1 2 3 4 3. Bombay 2 IS 17 4. Calcutta 4 , 9 S. Delhi 2 2 6. Gaubati 1 1 7. Gujarat 4 8. Himacbal Pradesh 1 9. Jammu and Kashmir 1 3 4 10. Kamataka 4 2 6 11. Madhya Pradesh 2 2 12. Patoa 4 4 13. Punjab and Haryana 3 3 14. Rajasthan 6 6 ._------•. Total: 26 so 76 S.,oor Committee Report on Postal (b) The Committee bas made 171 De,elopment Policy recommendations. The main recommenda tions of tbe Committee are : 115. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: (i) Tbe Committee bas supported tbe theory of 'equal pay for equal SHRI SODE RAMAIAH : work' and recommended bourly SHRI R.M. BHOYE : rate comparable to tbe walos of Departmental staff. Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to state: (ii) Payment of D.A. to B.D. employees as and when it is (a) wbether the one-man Committee sanctioned to reBular employees. ' headed by Shri R.R. Savoor appointed to review the postal deveopment policy of (iii) B.D. Sys.tem to cootinue in tbe tbe Government has submitted its report; Postal set up for performance of and Postal functions only. It bas recommended abolition of all . (b) if so, tbe main recommendations categories of E.D. employees made by the Committee and Government's excepting (i) E.D. Bra ncb POIt decision tbereon ? master (ii) B.D. Delivery Aaent. (iii) Mail Carrier (iv) B.D. Packer THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE and (v) ED Mail man. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SON'fOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) (iv) Abolition of tbe cadre of ED ..tamp Yes, Sir. vendors. t 11 Written if nswers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 178 . (v) An ED Brancb Offices (12.662) same principle as it is done for working within 3 Kms of each Departmenta) Offices. other in violation of the existiol Itaudards to be closed. ' (xi) Abolition of orderlies for Sub (b) Does not arisc. Divisional IPOs and payiol a lump sum amount in lieu thereof. l.Jegal Aid to the Poor (xU) Abolition of tbe cadre of mail 117. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD 0\1 enter. SINGH: Will tbe Minister of LAW AND JOSTICE be pleased to state: (xm) Introduction of a cadre of Assis .. tant Sub-Divisional Inspector. (a) whether it is a fact that a meetios (xiv) Evolvioa time test 'for asscasinl of the Law Ministers was re~ntly convened work hour in each B.O. on tbe in New Delhi for considering a Central 179 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 180' enactment to streamline lelal aid to the and some of them are preliminary in nature. poor; and To auament ,tbe availability of power, bilateral assistance as well as assistaDce (b) if so, the outcome of tbe meeting from international financial institutions will and wben 'Government propose to bring continue to be resorted to in suitable cases; sucb legislation before the Parliament ? primary reliance will. bowever. continue to be placed on optima] utilisation ot THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE indigenous resources both in the public and MINISTRY OP LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI private sectors for attaining self-sufficiency H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) Yes Sir. Tbe in power supply. Chief Justice of India invited the State Law MiDisters on 3.10.1986 to discuss some of tbe aspects of tbe proposed Bill on legal Difficult situation In Cement Industry aid. (b) Tbe Chief Justice of India has 119. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN requested the Governtncnt to consider the SINHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY question of enactment of suitable legislation, be pleased to state : in the light of tbe discussions at the meeting. The Government is studying the (a) whetber cement industry bas proposals sent by the Chief Justice of India complained that at the existing levy cement and will take a decision after studying price, tbe industry is facing a difficult various aspects thereof. situation and that either the levy price must be raised or levy quantum should be New Finaneiol Scbeme for Power reduced; GeneratloD Projects (b) if so, Government's reaction thereon; 118. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN and SINHA: Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : (c) wbetber open market prices of cement have been coming down sharply (8) whether Government have proposed creating problems for the industry? any new scheme of financing projects to bridge tbe gap between demand and supply in power generation "capacity during the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Seventh Five Year Plan; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) if so, whetber this includes a INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHA proposal to tap resources outside tbe Plan LAM) : (a) and (b). Yes Sir. Representations as reported in tbe 'Economic Times' dated have been received from Cement Manu 14th October. 1986; and facturers' Association, seeking increase in the retention price of levy cement due to (c) whether foreign parties have under· cost escalation in power tariff. price of coal, movement of coal by railways. taken to provide finance and if so t tbe terms tbereof? increase in the D.A. rates etc. No decision has been taken by Government so far, in tbis regard. THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (c) With various measures taken by SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) to (c). Some Government to encourage the cement broad offers of assistance have been industry to improve capacity utilisation and received from external sourees for parti its productivity, the production of cement cipation in power projects in India by way bas registered stready increase from 18.56 of suppJy of equipment or execution on million toones in 1980·81 to 33.10 million turnkey basis with possibilities of financing. tonnes in 1985 .. 86. As a result, in most These offers are not always for individual of tbe places. the open market prices have projects with specific terms and conditions shOVlD a down~.rd trend. 181 Written Answers KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 182 Import of Turbine GeneratlDI Set from Will the Minister of LA. WAND Ealt Germany JUSTI CE be pleased to state ; 120. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (a) whether Government have drawn up a time bound action plan to cJea r the state : backing of judicial appointments by tbe year end 8S reported in the Indian Express of (a) whether it is a fact tbat a power .. 11 October, 1986 under the caption "Plan generating subsidiary of a Birla group firm, for Judges' appointments"; liindustan Aluminium Company has been permitted to import a 68-MB turbine generator set I from East Germany at a (b) if so, the details thereof; concessional customs duty of 25 per cent instead of normal rate of 90 per cent; (c) the number of vacancies in the Supreme Court and variouCJ High Courts as (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and on 1st November, 1986 and since when these are laying vacant; and (c) whether the Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd. (BHEL) offered to supply this type of generator to the aforesaid Company? (d) the criteria adopted to fill up the posts? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL THE l'vllNISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OP MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA (StIRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) and (b). CHALAM) : (a) to (c). MIs. Renusagar The Government have recently reiterated Power Co., Renukoot (UP), been permitted the instructions prescribing a time-schedule to import one number 67.5 MW Turbo wherein tbe Chief Justices, the Chief ·Generator Set from GDR under the Scheme Ministers and the Governors of the States of import of capital goods against Global have to send their recommendations, and Tenders as provided in para 40 of the requested them to adhere to it so that the Import and Export Policy April 8S-Marcb vacancies of Judges are filJed in 88. MIs. BHEL had also inter-alia made expeditiously. an offer for supply of the equipment in question. The applics tion was considered in terms of the prescribed procedure taking (c) As 00 1-11 .. 1986, there were 11 into account the offers received against the vacancies of Judges in the Supreme Court global tender. Indigenous availability of and 70 vacancies of Judges in the High the equipment from M/§. BHEL was also Courts. The dates from which these considered before approving . the import. vacancies are lying vacant are given in tbe Customs duty as 3(\sessed by the authorities statement below. concerned will be applicable to the import authorised. 21 fresh appointments of Additional Judges/Judges of the Hiah Courts have been Vaeao("ies of .Judges in Supreme Coort approved by the Presidedt and will be notified shortJy. aod High Courts 121. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: (<1) Appointments of Judges of tbe Supreme Court and t be High Courts are DR. G.S. RAJHANS : made io terms of the relevent provisons of SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: the Constitution. No other criteria has been SHRI BIRENDER SINGH: pr~scribed in this regard. 183 Written Answtrs NOVBMBER 4, 19.' Stat•••• t I. Supreme Court .~. OD 1-11-1986 No. of vacanoies Date from wblcb vac;aDcicl bave arisen 11 9-3-1986 7-4-1986 15·6·1986· ----_.,-_ • tbe remaiDiDI 8 'Vacancies arose on 9-5-1986 wben tbe ••nctioDed atreDltb of the Supreme Court ... a. railed from 18 to 26 judi•. II. Hllh Court' Vacancies Date from which 81. Name of the .------._------No. Hllb Court Perm.oen t Additional vac8ncie, in Col. 3 and 4 have arilen I 2 3 4 5 1. Allahabad 4 6 15.10.1984 15.10.1984 15.10.1984 15.10.1984 15.10.1984 7.02.1985 5.05.1986 23.05.1986 27.06.1986 18.08.1986 2.' Andbra Pradesh J 2 26.11.1982 29.11.1982 19.08.1985 3. Bombay 2 13.04.1986 185 Written Anlwers ICAanKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 186 _"_ .. 1 2 3 4 6.05.1986 6.0.5.1986 17.06.J986 1.07.1986 4. Calcutta , 21.01.1986 1.02.1986 10.03.1986 1.09.1986 1.11.1986 S. Delbi 2 2 12.03.1985 29.101985 22.12.198' 20.08.1986 6. Oaobati 7.06.1984 7. Oujarat 2 3 26.06.1984 2.04.1985 19.12.1985 22.07.1986 8. Jammu and Ka.bmir 9. Karoataka 4 24.10.198' 18.12.1985 13.08.1986 28.09.1986 10. Kerala 11. Himacbal Prade.h 1 23.09.1986 12. ~adhya Pradesb 1 3 14.0S.1986 14.0S.1986 27.10.1'86 1.09.1986 187 JVlillett Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written AII.nvers 188 '------~------"-~. 1 2 3 4 s 13. Madras 6 25.01.1984 1.06.1985 10.03.1986 10.08.1986 3.09.1986 23.10.1986 14. Orissa 2 1 1.03. J986 24.06.1986 26.06.1986 IS. Patna 9 9.09.1984 28.11.1984 J 2.01.1985 1.05.1986 1..05.1986 25.06.1986 14.08.1986 10.09.1986 13.10.1986 16. Punjab and Haryana 9 29.11.1983 16.01.1984 26.03.1984 14.05.1984 1.08.1984 24.05.1985 12.03.1986 11.07.1986 16.07.1986 17. Rajasthan 23.07.1986 18. Sikkim 21.01.1986 49 21 Grant Total: 70 189 Written Aflswers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Writte" AII.\wer~ 190 New Strategy to boolt Industry io whether Government have stressed Backward Areas the need to improve tbe quality and reliability of industrial products in the 122. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: country; Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to stalte : (b) jf so. the steps Government propose to take in this regard; wbether the Directorate General of Technical Development (DGTD) has (c) wbether any guidelines have been adoptCld a new strategy to boost the issued to the State Governments in this development of industries in backward areas regard; aod in the country; (d) if so, the detaHs tbereof ? (b) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) by when the new strategy will be DEPARTMENT OF IND,USTRIAL brought into action? DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHALAM): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. To DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL spread the concept of quality maintenance DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF and to inclucate a sense of quality awareness INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : among both producers and consumers, the (a) to (c). A High Powered Inter-Ministerial month of November, 1986 is being observed Committee has been constituted by tbe as "Quality Maintenance and Improvement Government to review and revise the Month". A campaign is being organised existing scheme for industrialisation of to achieve higher standards of quality t backward areas. The Committee would productivity and consumer service by all formulate the revised incentive scheme based industrial undertakings during this month. on tbe concept of growth centres and distance criteria and with emphasis on the (c) and (d). Government have requested development of infrastructure, with special all the State Governments to arrange for a components of the scheme being designed similar campaign at District head quarters, for hill areas and the North East and other major cities and towns, and Sfate Capitals remote areas. keeping in view also the to discuss and disseminate information on suitability of various types of industries for all aspects regarding quality, productivity location in these areas from the environ and service in industry and business. mental angle. The Committee is expected to submit its report by 31.12.1986. In Global Tender for Supply of Rigs keeping with the Government strategy for development of industries in backward areas, 124. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: the Directorate General of Technical Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Development propose to hold workshops NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: and seminars in association with the State Industrial Development Corporations to (a) whetber the Oil and Natural Gas focus attention on promotion of growth of Commission has recently floated a global indu&tries in such areas. One such workshop tender for supply of 13 rigs for carrying out was organised on 12th September, 1986 in its oil exploration activities in the country; Srinagar in association with tbe Jammu and Kashmir State Industrial Development (b) if so, whether Government have Corporation. taken the opinion from the indigenous companies engaged in manufacturing rigs for oil exploration; and Quality and Reliability of lodustrlal Products (c) if not, the reasons therefor '1 123. SHRI BANWARt LAL PUROHIT: THB MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND to state: N~TURAL GAS (SHRI BRt\HMA 191 Written Answers NOVEMBBR 4, 1986 Written Answers 192 (b) No Sir. THE MINISTBR OF STATB IN THB DEPARTMENT OF IN DUSTR.IAL (c) This was not considered necessary DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTR.Y OP as ONOC only propose to charter bire the INDUSTRY (SHR) M. ARUNA rils. CHALAM) : (a) Ye5, Sir. Dispensing with Policy of Dlr~d Price (b) The decision is implementable only CODtrol in stages as the terms of tbe concerned existing part-time Board Members expire. 125. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: SHRI S.M. GURADDI : (c) Reducing tbe Dumber of Govern ment Directors will enable broad basing tbe Will tbe Minister of I ND USTR Y be Board of Directors and to induct suitable pleased to state: specialists. (a) whether the policy of direct price Unfair Trade Pradlces by Certain control under administered pricing bas been CompaDles dispensed with; 127. SHRI H.N. NANJB GOWDA: (b) if so, whether Government have SBRI O.S. BASAVARAJU : decided to move over to indicative type of SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL : price controls than a ditect control; a~d DR. B.L. SHAILESH : (c) to what extent these new policies Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be have proved successful? p leased to State : THE MINISTER OF STATE '.IN THE (a) whether Government are aware that DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL a number of companies are holding unfair DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF contests, bargain sales and issuing misleading INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA .. advertisements about their profits etc; CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. (b) if 80, whether this bas been brou&bt (b) and (c). Do not arise. to tbe notice of tbe MRTP Commission; Go"ernment Directors on Boards of (c) which are these companies; and Public Undertakings (d) the action taken/proposed apinlt 126. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: tbem? SHRI G,5, BASAVARAJU : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL pleased to state: DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. (a) whetber the Department of Public CHALAM): (a) to (d). Tbe provisions Enterprises had written to all the Ministries contained in the MRTP Act in respect or to reduce the number of Government unfair trade practices were brought into Directors on tbe boards of Public Under force with effect from 1.8.84. Since tbat takings; date and upto 30.9.86, tbe MRTP Commission received 268 complain lsI (b) whether all the Mi~istri~s h~ve applications/references aHealn, unfair trade reco!1~Hituted tile B->ards keepkang ID vIew practices relatina to contests. bargain 8ales th~ directiaQfiJ ,tVI)Q by the Department; and and misleading advortisements. The Commission ordered iDvostiaation in 178 (~) if SOJ tll what extent tbis decision is such cases. Tho effort involved in tbe . J 193 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 compilation of 268 cases wou1d not be movement of grouodout pod by the farmers commensurate witb the purpose to be anywhere in the country have been placed. .erved. The Commission takes appropriate EveD as far as millers or traders are action In al1 lucb cases under tbe provisions concerned no conlrol order restricting inter of Sections 36B, 36C. 360 and 36E of the State movement bas been promulgated aDd MJlTP Act. it is learnt that significant quantities of seeds as wen as oils bave been moved outside tb e Sa,lng In Edible Oil Imports State. According to a result of under standing reached between the trade and the 128. SHRI H.N. NAN1B GOWDA: Government tbe State Government are SHRIO.S. BASAVARAJU: requesting tbe trade to seU adequate quantities within the State so as to keep tbe Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL prices of groundnut oil under control locally. SUPPLIES be plea8~d to state: According to tbe Government of Gujarat no ban has been imposed on the movement (8) whether it has been decided to save of groundnut oil by the State Government. Ra. 600 crores on edible oil imports tbis year; (d) Yes, Sir. (b) tbe main features of the schemes (co) The reaction of State Governments under which this huge saving OD edible oil of Andbra Pradesh and Gujarat bas been imports is possible; indicated at (c) above. (0) whether it is a fact that the curbs Thermal Power Station in Kerala imposed on the movement of groundnut oil by Andbra Pradesh and Gujarat Govern 129. PROF. P.l. KURIEN : ments bad confounded tbe problem; SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA. CHANDRAN: (d) whether the Centre has asked the State Governments to withdraw the curbs; WiJI the Minister of ENERGY be and pleased to state: (e) if so, tbe reaction of the State (a) whether the Government of Kerala Governments thereon ? hpve made a request to set up a tbermal power station in Kerala; THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL (b) if so. the details thereof; SUPPLIES (SURI GHULAM NAB! AZAD): and (b). With a view to (c) wbether any decision bas been taken induce farmers to increase tbe prod UCiOD of tbereon; and oilseeds and to conserve scarce foreign exchaole, Government has kept import of (d) if so, when it is likely to be set up ? edible oils at the minimum possible level. At tbe same time it bas been ensured tba' THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbe pp between tbe demand and supply for DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE edible oils within the country is met through MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI import of edible oils so that the prices of SUSHILA ROHTAGJ): (a) and (b). The indiaenous oils are kept in cbeck. While the Kerala State Electricity Board (K.S.B.B.) BRures for foreign exchange outgo for the had requested tbe Central Electricity fun oil year 1985·86 are not yet available. Authority (C.B.A.) for Assistance in tbe sinificant saviols of Coreian exchange are preparation of feasibility report for a expected. partly due to lower quantum of thermal power plant with an ultimate imports and partly to lower international capacity of 4 units of 210 MW each and price. of edible oils. have been advised by the CEA to furni sh detailed field data and otb..~r. relevant details (e) AccordiD. to the Government of required for prep.aratioD of the feasibility ADdbr. Pradesb DO reauletioD' OD any report. 195 Written Answers NOVBMBBR 4, 1986 Written Allswers 196 (c) and (d). The project could be persons for 26 LPG distributorships in considered for implementation only after Kerala are presently pending witb Oil its techno-economic feasibility is established, Selection Board (Soutl-::·. inputs like coal and water are tied up and neces,arj clearances from tbe environmental (b) and (cl. LPG distributorsbios are and pollution angles become available. established on the basis of feasibility studies for determining economic viability. While Construction of godown, In Kerala the oil industry is already marketing LPG at (i) Pathanamthilla (ii) Kozencberi! 130. PROF. P.l KURIEN: Will the Maramon (iii) Adoor/Parakode and (iv) Minister of FOOD AN 0 CIVIL SUPPLIBS Thiruvatla in Patbanamthitta district, tbe be pleased to state : oil industry proposes setting up Dew distributorships at the following locations in tbe district-(i) Aranmula (ii) Konni (a) whether the Kerala State Civil (iii) MaHapally and (iv) Thiruvalla. Supplies Corporation has requested for Central financial assistance to con$truct godJwns in different parts of the State; and Industrial Developm(lnt 11\ Keral. (b) if so, the details thereof and tbe 132. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : Will tbe reaction of Government thereto 1 Minister of IN DUSTR Y be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI (a) the rate of industrial development AZAD) : (a) No, Sir. in Kerala durins the past three years; (b) Does oot arise. (b) whether aoy i,ldustry bas been set up in the industrially backward districts of the State; Allotment of L.P.G. DistributorshIp id Kerala (c) if so, the district-wise details thereof; and 131. PROF. P J. KURIEN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (d) tbe details regarding industrial NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: development in tbe State during the Seventh Plan 1 (a) the total number of applications for LPG distributorship from Kerala THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pending consideration; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) whether there has been an increase INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA in the demand for distributorship in the CHALAM): (a) to (d). The Central Pathanamthitta district of Kerala; and Statistical Organisation (CSO) does not compile either region-wise or State-wise (c) if so, the names of places where index of industrial production. However, distributorship has been granted/is being based oa Annual Surveys of Industries, the granted in this district ? information on tbe rate of industrial growth for KeraJa in terms of value of output and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE value added at current prices for the latest MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND available three years. 1980-81, 1981· 82 aDd NATURAL GAS (SHRI DRAHMA 1982-83 is given below: . DUTT) : (a) Applications from 600 eligible J97 Written Answers KARTJKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) WrlJlen Answers 198 Year· Percentage growth rate ------_.___ ._ Value of output Value added 1980-81 27.8 12.3 1981-82 15.8 12.5 1982-83 2.7 10.1 The details of Letters of Intent, Development Organisation (SIOO) registra Industrial Licences, DGTD registrations, tions in KeraJa and separateJy for the back Secretariat for Industrial Approvals . (SIA) ward districts in that State for the jears deliccosed registrations and Small Industries 1983 to 1986 are as follows: 1983 1984 1985 1986 (Jan.-August) 1. I .. etters of Intent (i) Total 35 7 25 11 (ii) Backward distrkts 25 5 18 8 2. Industrial Licences (i) Total 22 21 24 11 (ii) Back ward districts 16 13 15 3. DGTD registrations (i) Total 24 13 22 8 (ii) Backward districts 10 8 13 2 4. SI A d~lI('ensed registrations (i) Total 22* 13 (ii) Backward districts 17* 4 s .., SIDO registrations 0) Total 2534 2849 3166 N.A. (jj). Backward districts 1258· 1251 1489 N.A. • Commenced fcom May 1985. N.A.-Not \ I Available.• , 199 Written Answers NOVBMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 200 Regarding industrial development in per cent foreign sharebolding, foreiaD Kerala, a State Plan outlay of Rs. 208 directors enjoy almost total control' over the crores for industrial and mineral· sector Boards of Indian Companies and have been including village and small industries has given powers to veto any decision of the been provided during the Seventh Five Board; Year Plan. In additioo t outlays have been provided for a number of expansion !tchemes, (b) if so, whether Union Government replacement and renewals. diversification have sought information in this regard and and other facilities in existing central pubHc noted such cases; and sector undertakings in Kerala. (c) if so, what steps Government pro Tecbnology Information Centres pose to take to check the veto powers of foreign directors 1 133. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : SHRIVAKKOM PURUSHOTHA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . MAN: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY Wi1l the Minister of INDUSTRY be OF INDUSTRY (SIlRI M. ARUNA pleased to state: CHALAM): (a) to (c). Some cases of companies adopting an article in the Articles (a) whether Government have taken a of Association. subjecting the power of the deci~ioo to set up Technology Information BoaJd of Directors to pass a resolution to Centres to promote indigenisation in confirmatory vote hy the nominee of foreign industry; anq body corporate holding shares in the Company, ba ve come to the notice of tbe (b) if so, . the· details regarding the Government. The exercise of powers by (lJcheme and programme of Government in the Board of Directors of companies i~ this regard ~l11ngwith the l~)cati(ln of these reguJated by the provisions of the Com centres 1 panies Act, 1956. THE MINISTER OF STAEE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE [Trans/at iOIl} LOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF INDUS TR Y (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (<1) Memorandum regarding irregularitiers and (b). A Technology Information Centre to by Tyre Manufacturers cover various· aspects of information per taining to techology is arready in operation 135. SHRf SHANTI DHARIWAL: in the Directorate General of Te(hnical Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased Development on a limited sca1e. However. to state: the proposal for setting up an Industrial Technotogy Data Bank, on a much larger (a) whether Government have received scate, is under active consideration of the any memorandum fwm the unions of truck Government. The objectives of this Bank operators in regard to the if(egularities would be to collect, analyc;e and disseminate being committed by tyre manufacturing technical information on industrial companies; technology from abroad and within tho country. (b) if so, the action taken by Govern .. ment thereon; and Check on Powers of Dlrt'rtors representing Foreign Countries on J ndian (c) if no action bas heeo taken, the Companies . reasons· therefor ? 134. SHRI SRIBALLA V PANIGRAHI: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE INDUSTR Y be plfased to state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY (a) whether Union Government are OF INDUSTRY (SHRI ·M. ARUNA. ~ware tllat eveq after dilQtion to. below 48 Cl;iALAM): (a) Yes Sir. 201 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 202 (b) and (c). Tbe transport operators. the work of connecting Agartala with have alleged, that the tyre manufacturera Calcutta by S.T.D. service. are rasing the prices arbitrarily and tbat they have formed a cartel. The Enquiry r£'~ardiDg Broken Rig at MRTP Commission are already conducting Baramura (Tripura) Drill Site an enquiry ioto the alleged restrictive trade practices of the tyre manufacturers. 137. SHRI AJOY BISWAS: WiIJ the Government have also taken note of the Minister of PETROLEUM AND suggestion made by the BI CP (in their NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: phaqe-I Report, that it may be appropriate now to refer the issue of prices, discounts (a) whether it is a fac't that rig was and trade and distribution practices in broken at Baramura (Tripura) drill site the tyr~ industry to a probe by the M R Til this year: COn1mission~ and have accordingly urged tbe Commission to complete the inquiry (b) whether the Oil and Natural Gas expeditiously. The BICp·s (Phase-B) Report, Commission has enquired into the incident; which will be an indepth analysis (economic, and financial and technical) of the tyre industry is expected to present a clearer (c) jf so, the details thereof? picture of the tyre industry is expected to present a clearer picture of the issues of THE MINISTER OF STA11~ OF THE costs and prices. The phase-II Study MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND expected to be completed short1y will also NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA enable the Government to decide on 'the DUTT) : (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. During rig need as welt appropriate mechanism for building. while raisin~ the mast of 3DM-2 admini~trative intervention, if any, in ritz, at Baramura well No. BMSK, the mast the' price~ and distribution of lyres as a fell down accidently due to structural measure for stabmshing the prices of tyres failure. A substitute mast is being moved at rea~()oable levels. from Ea~tern Region (Assam). (Englishl Increase in Assists of Monopoly Houses Connecting Agartala with Calcutta by 138. SHRI AJAY BISWAS: wm tbe S.T.D. Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : 136. SHRI AJOY BISWAS: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (a) the total assets of top 20 monopoly pleased to state: Houses in 1980; (a) whether Government have a (b) the total assets of tbose 20 monopoly proposal to conncct Agartala with Calcutta houses in 1984; by S.T.D. service; (c) whether it is a fact that assets Qf (b) if so, when it will materialise; and the monopoly houses have increased aboormally during tbe aforesaid period; aod (c) whether Union Government wiJl ~xpedite the work considering the remote (d) if so, the reasons for such increase? ness of Tripura State 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL MINISTRY OF COMMUNl~ATlONS DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Yes, Sir. (a) to (c). The, assets, for tbe accouDting periods . ended. during 1980 and 1984, of (h) During 7th Plan period. companres regIstered urder MRTP Act as on 31.12.1980 and 31.12.1984, and bcJ{lnB~ (c) Etlorts arc beios made .to expedite ina to tbe top 20 monopoly Houses. ranked " , 20J Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 204 , accordiog to their uscts in 1980, are given (c) Apart from resolution of Industrial below: Relations Problems at Kalyani (Calcutta) . bottling plant. additional supplies to tbe ---' State are being made from other scurccs to Year Assets the extent possible. (Rs. crores) Steps to ioslall major industries in Kersla 7611.92 1980 140. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 1984 14922.78 (a) the steps taken by Union Govern There bas been an increase of 96 ment to install some major industries in tbe percent in assets during the four year period. State of Kcrala; aod (b) tho amount set aside during tbe (d) Reasons fO,r such increase may be current plan, type of onits, period of increase in number of undertakings; completion and other details 1 price inflation; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL expa~sion. diversification and moder nisation activities of such undertakings. DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA .. CHALAM): (a) and (b). An outlay of Supply of LPG 'Cylinders to Consumers In West Bengal approximately Rs. 436.79 crores (exclusive of the outlay provided for expansion programme of Hiodustan Latex Ltd.) has 139. SHRI ~.P. DAS : SHRI PURNA CHANDRA been provided in the Seventh Five Y car Plan for Central Industrial Undertakings in tbe MALIK: Public Sector located in Kerala. There are SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : no specific ~ulays for major new Central Will tbe Minister of PETROLEU M Industrial Projects in tbe Public Sector AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to in Kerala during tbe Seventh Plan. How state: ever. outlays have been provided for expansion of existing undertakings, and (a) whether Government are aware that replacement and renewals, diversification the consumers of LPG in West Bengal get a and other facilities in existing Central LPG cylinder .after 15 to 20 days of Industrial Undertakings in tbe Public Sector booking; in Kerala. . (b) the reaSons for the delay in The following outlays have been delivery; and provided for Industry and Minerals sector in the Seventh Five Year State Plan of (c) tbe steps to be taken by Government Kerala : to ensure early delivery of LPG to consum• .ers of West Bengal ? Outlays THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (R s. crores) MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Large and Medium Industries 126.00 DOTT) : and (b). Backlog in supply Village and Small Industries 78.00 of LPG refills of varying degree in various markets in West Bensal bas developed Minerals 4.00 primariiy due to Industrial Relations problems at Kalyani (Calcutta) LPG , The number of Letters of Intent and hottlin, plant. Industrial Licences, issued for settiOl up ios Written Answers KAR'flkA 13. l!a)OS (SAKA) Written Answers 206 various industries in the State of Kerala SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). The during J985 and 1986 (January-September) Government of lnd;a havo accepted in i& as below: principle the neej for a National Power Grid. Such a Grid is an evolutionary proc'ess requiring appropriate inter-connec 1985 1986 tions and strengthening of tbe various (Jan. Sept.) State SY6tems and the Centra) Sector EH V transmission lines. As a step' towards formation of the National Grid, Regional Letters of Intent 25 13 Electricity Boards have been set up to accelerate the process of integrated opera tion of tbe rigional systems. The Central Industrial Lice nees 24 11 Electricity Authority is carrying out studies ------~--- in regard to the transmission s),steru needed for the ultimate f ormaiioo of the National These Letters of Intent and Industria) Grid. Licences are at various stage of implementa tion. (c) and (d), There is no proposal at present to associate the Private Sector in CtlDtept for National Grid in power ". tbe development of the National Power Grid. Sector 141. SHRI V. SREENIVASA Allocation of Rice to Kerala PRASAD: 142. SHRI V.S. VJJAYARAGHAVAN : DR G.S. RAJHANS : Will the Minister of FOOD AND DR. B.L. SHAILESH : CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Will the Minister of ENERGY be (a) the month-wise allocation of rice pleased to state: to Kerala for public distributing dUl1Pg the past six months; and (a) wbeter Government have initiated .steps for implementation of the concept (b) the total demand placed by that for national grid in the power ~ec'or sooo; State for these months and the steps being taken to meet the demand 1 (b) if so, the details thereof and the step3 Government propose to take in this THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE n:gard; MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI (c) whether there is a proposal to AZAD) : (a) and (b). A statement indi associale private sector in this field; aDd cating demand and allotment of rice for public distribution system in Kerala during (d) if so, salient features thereof? tbe past six months is given b('low. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Allocations of rice were stepped up DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE substantially to meet tbe demand. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI 207 Written Answers NOVEM·BER 4, 1986 Written Answers 208 Statement l:Jemand and allotment 01 rice lor public di~·tribution system in Kerala during May, 1986 to October. 1986 (In '()()() tonnes) . Month Demand Allotment 1986 May 150.00 125.0 June ISO 00 145.0 July 150.0 1500 August 150.0 150.0 September 200.0· 165.0 October 150.0 150.0 -"_...------• Includes demand of ~O,OOO tonnes extra for festival • . Kuriarkutty-Ka Rappars HYdro-Electric" collaboration with Indian companies in Project in Kerala setting up export-oriented projects in India; 143. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAOHAVAN: (b) if so, on what terms and conditions Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased and whether transfer of technology will be to state : undertaken for all such projects; and (a) whether Government propose to (c) the names of the major projects and review their earlier stand on the Kuriakutty indu9tries wbich are being considered for Karappara Hydro-electric Project in Palghat collaboration with Japan ? district in 'Kerala; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, tbe facts thereof? DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE· MINISTRY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE CHALAM) : (a) The initiative for selection MINISTRY OF ENERG.Y (SHRIMATJ of Sources of technology is left to the SUSHILA ROHTAGl) : (a) and (b). There Indian enterpreneurs. They explore the is presently no such proposal under alternative sources of technology, make a consideration. The Kuriarkutty·Karappara techno-economic analysis of the ,proposed Hydro-electric Project has not yet been foreign collaboration and select the foreign , cleared from the environmental angle. col1aborator whose offer suits them best. Collaboration wltb Japan in Settiog up (b) Does not arise. Export-Orient.ed Projects (c) Details of the proposals which are 144. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: ~nder consideration are not revealed. . Wi11 the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased However. details of all .approved foreian to state: col1aborations showing the .names of Indian and foreign firms, item of manufacture and (a) whether any suggestions or proposals nature of col1aboration are published by have been received from Japan fot; Indian Investment Centre as a supplement 2M Written Answera KARTIKA 13', 1'908 (SAKA) Written Answers 210 to itl monthly news letter.. Copies of this same sJ'Bce for all, no separate publication are seot regularly to Parliament· cabins for managers. Library. -common toilets. Work Culture of Maroti Udyog Ltd. -company's personnel policies try 145. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO : to mJOlmlse differentiation Will the Minister of INDUSTIl Y.be pleased among different levels of to state: '. employees. (a) whether Maru1i Udyog Ltd. have 2. Management practices wha t they developed a unique work culture as reported! preach. The same rules apply to in 'Economic Times' of 9 October, 1986; all. Thus even top management members have to punch time·cards (b) if SOt tbe details thereof and the on arrival everyday, observe tbe gains made in productivity and labour/ same lunch hours etc. wOIker/management relations; and 3. Participative management and (c) whether Government propose to emphasis on information sharing introduce similar work culture in other with aU. Decisions are taken after public sector undertakings ? wide ranging discussions. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE For example a Sabyog Samiti, DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL representing employees from all DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF levels and across all functional INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA areas has beeo constituted. This CHALAM): (a) Maruti Udyog Ltd. has provides a forum ;n which policies developed . a work culture emphasisipg and plans which may affe~t all professionalism, efficiency. productivity and employees are discussed before a creating· team werking. decision is taken on them. . Con sultations with the Union on a (b) The main elements of the work regular basis. culture of Maruti are given in tbe statement below. -Quality circles have been introduced and 800-1000 sugges (c) Each public sector undertaking tions are introduced and received adopts a work culture according to its own every month from ahout 2700 circumstances and requirements. employees. One fhird pf these are imp1emented. Statement 4. Making tlmpJoyees feel that the 1. 'Efforts to treat all employt'es' Company carts for them-oppor equally and to uphold tbe dignity tunities for fast growlh for capable of the individllal. Practices persons. instituted towards this ideal include: -simplification of procedures for availing of medical reimburse .. -common uniform. for all ment, persona) loans, transport including the Chief Executive. reimbursement etc. ;- all employees eat the same food -colle~aues give a hand on in the same cante~n. occasions such as weddings. birtb of children, bereavements -com,mon transport from borne etc. to fa('tOl)' •. -role of department manager 8S ,- ~()mrnon offlces-opep space~ " mentor and ,uide. 211 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answer~ 212 S. Labour management relations Will the Minister of JNDUSTRY be pleased to state : -problem solving approach rather than confrontat kmal attitude. (a) whether Government have since filed a suit against the Union Carbide - intcrnal union, all members as Corporation for compensation to tbe victims wen as leadership being Maruti of tbe Bhopal gas tragedy; employees. '11. (b) if so, when; 6. Emphasis on punctuality and attendance (c) whether the Union Carbide Corporation have filed their reply in the -employees leach factory before matte,'; shift starting time. (d) if not. tbe reasons for the delay; -work on the shop-fioor begins and ends exactly on time. (e) whether this delay is due tq, part;ies to the suit; -attendance level average of 93% achieved. (0 the steps taken or proposed to expedite the case; and The Results : (g) whether any effort is being made by The attention Maruti has given to the Union Carbide for out of court settle nurturing of a healthy work culture bas ment and if so, the nature and terms on enabled tbe Company to achieve excellent which it is possible ? results as follows : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1. A proJ'J.;tiO.l lev~l equivalent to DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND 100 p~r cent capacity utilisation PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY has b;!en achiev~d in 1986-87 as OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. against the original target of JAICHANDRA SINGH) (a) Yes, Sir. 19S5-89. (b) The suit has been filed on 5th 2. Production targets have been September, 1986 in the Court of District exceeded by 11.9 per cent in 1984- Judge, Bhopal. 8S and 29 per cent in 1985-86. (c) to (0. Attorneys for Union 3. Annual vehicle production per Carbide ap·peared before the Court on 30th employee was 20.2 in 1985-86 and October~ 1986 and have raised certain is expected to be around 27.5 this preliminary iasues. The Court has decided year. This compares to a level that replies to these issues be submitted by of about 2 prevailing in India. 17th November, 1986 and rejoinders, jf any, submitted by 22nd November,' 1986 and 4. Value added per employee was final hearjng of these issues has heen fixed R~. 2 4 lakbs in 1985-86. for 26th November. 1986. Government is taking effective steps to ensure prompt 5. Labour morale has consisten til' been disposal of these preliminary issues so that high. the case moves forward expeditious)y. Compensation Case agajnst Union Will tbe Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE amODast tbe potable sector and cbemical be pleased to state : industry; (a) whether a total of 512772 cases were (b) if so, the details, thereof; and pending in Delhi Courts in 1982 as reported in the Times of India of 10 October. 1986 (c) wbether there is any Cenlral and if 80, tbe breat up of these indicating organisation to ensure tbat adequate civil suits, small causes suits, civil appeals. quantities of industrial alcohol are made traffic chatlans, DDA. STA and MCD soits, available to the chemical industry in rent cases etc.; preference to the petable sector? (b) the position ()f pending cases as on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1 April. 1986; DEPARTMENT' OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO~CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY (c) bow many of at,ove cases have been OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. lAI pending for over five years; CHANDRA SINGH) (a) aod (b). Jndust,riaJ alcohol is gene'rany denatured aDd (d) whether Government have received is used for the manufacture of alcohol based a proposal from Delhi Administration for chemicals only and not for potable use. appointing about 169 more sub-judges; While tbere are no specific guidelines for distribution of alcohol between tbe potable (e) if so, decision taken in the matter; Sector and the Chemical industry, the State and Governments have been advised to strike a proper balance in this regard so that tbe (f) whether more Lok Adalats wHl be requirements of chemical industries are funy held in Delhi to reduce the backlog of met. cases? (c) The Central Molasses Board THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE comprising Exci1le Ministet's of all States and MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE senior officials of various Deflartments of (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) to (c l. The the Central GoveJnment meets annually to information is being collected and will be look into. il1frr-alin, problems relating to laid on the ta hie of the House. alcohol-based industry and make suitable suggestions. (d) Yes, Sir. There is also a Working Committee or "(e) No decision bas been taken in tbe <;entral Molasses Board, which meets from matter as the same is under correspondence time to time to review the position of with Delhi Administration. However. releases and lifting of alcohol including the the strength of Delhi Higher Judicial Service supply of alcohol for Chemical has been increased by sanctioning 14 manufacturers. Additional District and Session Judgcs for reducing the backlog of cases, Allocation for Power Produrtlon In Andhrll Pradesh (f) The Lok Adalat had five siUings so far and the next sitting' is scheduled to be 149. SHRI D.N. REDDY: Will the held on 30.11.] 986. Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state = Dlstrlhution of Industrial Alcobol (a) whether Andhra Pradesh is faciog 148. SHRI D.N. REDDY: pO,wer shortage due to pucity of funds; SHRI SRIHARI RAO: (b) the amount of money a~ked for by the Government of Andbra Pradesh for Wi11 tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be development of power production during pleased to sta.te : the Seventh Five Year Plan and the amount (8) whether there is Rny basis or guide actuallyaUoted by tbe Union G9VC rnment UD~ (Of ~i$U'ib~tioJl of industri",l a190hol fo~ ~he purposej 21S Written Answers NOVBMBBR 4. 1986 Written Answer~' 21" (c) whether Government are aware LOIIe. Suffered by Indian Druas and that reduced aUocation for power production Pharmaceutical. Ltd. will lead to raU in production in industrial and agricultural ,sectors aod adver~ely affect tbe ISO. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA economy of the State; and RAO: SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARY: SHRI SRI HARI RAO : (d) if so, steps envisaged to remedy tho situation? Win tb. Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Rs. in crores) Name of the unit 1983-84 1984-85 1985-86 1. Risbikesb 7.57 7.26 13.13 2. Hyderabad 4.26 9.09 7.36 3. Madras 1.68 ' 3.11 3.38 4. GurgloD 0.41 0.10 0.72 s. MaztltTarpur 3.70 3.16 3.95 6. Marketing Division 1.92 3.S3 3.67 Cc) and (d). At the instance of tbe plan for their rehabilitation and revival. Government tbe company set up an On tbe basis of analysis made by the task in-bouse task force to identify the CODS foree, tbe company. is con$iderin8 th; traints and opportunities in respect of each. r,hlbUitat'on pia", . Qf U. golt, .o~ to wm~ O\lt ",it~ ~oP9reto ,,' . 211 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 218 Lou of Property due to Floo'. aDd for 1984-85 coold oot be compJ'eted on Riots 10 Telecommunlcatlool 00 account of issue of ban orders by the Departmeot Ministry of Finance. 1St. SHRI R.S. MANB : Allotment of L.P.G. CORnectiool 10 SHR, SOMNATH RATH : , Kolbapur. MaltaraBbtra Will the, Minister of COMMUNICA 153. SHRI R.S. MANE: Will . the TIONS be pleased to state: Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether Government have assessed the Joss of property whicb Department of (a) tbe number of applications Jyina Telecommunications had to suffer due to pending with Government for L.P.G~ con floods and riots in the country; nectioDs in tbe Kolbapur district of Mabarashtra; (b) if so, tbe details in this regard; and (b) tbe number of gas agencies function (c) the steps taken by Government to ing in tbe district; and meet the situation ? (c) the time by whicb the demand of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gas connections will be fully met by Govern MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS ment? (SHR} SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (8) No. Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE O~ THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) and (c). Do not arise. NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (8) As on 1.10 86 tbere were ()penlng or new POlt Offices In around 31,000 persons on the waiting Jist Mabarashtra for LPG connections in Kolbapur Distr;ct of Maharashtra. 152. SHRI R.S. MANE: Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (b) Ten .. pleased to state: (c) Enrolment and release of new LPG (8) the number of new post offices and connections in the country is a continuous village post offices proposed to be opened process and is made. under the annual in Mabarashtra during the Seventh Five enrolment programme of tbe Oil Industry. Year Plan period; and determined by augmentation in availability of LPG, bottling capacity, tran~porta*tioD (b) whether the target for the Sixth Five arrangements and other infrastructure. Year Plan period has been fully achieved, if Dot. the reasons therefor ? Application for Telephone Coonectlon. In Kolhapur District of Mabar.shtra THE MINISTER OF STATS IN THE MIN1STRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 154. SHRI R.S. MANE: Will the (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Minister of COMM UNICATIONS be 10 view of tbe continuiog ban on creation pleased to state : of posts, the emphasis at preseot Is OD improving the postal services witb tbe (a) tbe number of applications received available manpower "and otber resources by Government to date for telephone rather tban opening of Dew post ollce•• connections in tbe Kolbapur district of Tberefore no fresh targets have been set for Mabarashtra; opening of new post offices urban or rural in Mabarasbtra or in 80Y otber State/UoiOD (b) the tim" by which the demand will Territory. be fully met; and (b) Up to 1983.84. tbe Annual Plan (c) how many connections wiJI be ta"flets were fulfilled. Part of tbe taraet set provided durinl the current year ? ~ , . 219 Written Answers NovBMBBa 4, 1986 Wrilten Answers 220 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE made after allowing a growth rate of 7i %. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 7% and 7% respectively. Kerosene alloca (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) tion made to Rajasthan State during 1983· The Dumber of appHcations on the 84, 1984-85 and 1985 .. 86 are 88 under: . waitiDI list in Kolbapur District of Mahacashtra at tbe end of· September, (Figures in ton Des) 1986 is 5,673. Year Allocation (b) Tbe prescDt waiting list is likely to be cleared during 7th Planf subject to availability of resources. 1983-84 162170 (c) 400 connections are expected to be 1984-85 179000 provided during the current year in the District. 1985-86 185110 Allocation or Kerosene to Rajasthan Grants given to various institutes by ISS. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Law Ministry Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : 156. SHR 1 MOOL CHAND DAGA: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE (a) the details of demands and alloca be pjeased to state: tion of Kerosene oil in respect of State of Rajasthan during the last three years; (a) whether it is a fact that his Ministry bas been providing financial assistance in the (b) the basis of allocation of kerosene form of grants to (1) Indian Law Institute, oil to States and whether Government take (2) Institute of Constitutional and Parlia into consideration tbe backwardness of the mentary Studies, (3) ·International Law area, distances from main town and tribal Association, Regional Branch India and upliftment while allocating kerosene oil to (4) Indian Association of Lawyers; States; and (b) if so, since when the said grants (c) if not. whether Government propose are being given sbowing anoual grants given to look into it now 1 during the last three years; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) whether any evaluation of work of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND tbese institutions bas been made by Govern NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA ment so far; and DUTT): (a) to (c). The requirements of kerosene of various States/Uoion Territories (d) if Dot. the reasons therefor and including Rajastheo. are assessed by whether Government propo"e to take up the allowing a 5% growth over the,. allocations evaluation work of tbese institutes now? mode in the corresponding period of the previous year, on a four-month-block basis THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE aod allocations are made accordingly. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE Besides the regular allocations, additional (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) Yes, Sir. ad-hoc releases are also made to meet ,specific situations like flood, drouaht, (b) Grants to tlie Indian Law Institute. cyclone. shortage of LPG/soft .coke, etc. the Institute of Constitutional and Parlia However, to meet increased demand, mentary Studies and the Regional Branch of allocation of kerosene for the last Winter . the International Law Association. arc Block comprising the months of November, being given from tbe years 1957-S8. 1969· 1985 to February, 1986, Summer· Block 70 and 1967.68, rcspectively. Grants to comprising tbe months of March 10 June, the Jndian Association of Lawyers were '1986 aod Monsoon Block comprising the given only twice. i.e. once in 1976-77 and . months of July to October, 1986, have been again in 1983·84 for bolding the Intern.- , , \ ' Written AnsWers K.ARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers tional Conference of Jurists in Delbl. The Institutes during the last 3 years's as quantum of arant-in-aid given to these under: 1983·84 1984-85. J985-86 Rs. Rs. Rs. (i) Indian Law Institute 8.• 50,000 6,32.383 6.00,000 (ji) Institute of Constitutional 6,58,528 6,00,000 6,00,000 and Parliamentary Studies (iii) International Law Association 10,000 Nil Nil (iv) Indian Association of Lawyers 21,948 Nil Nil (c) Yes S.ir. this date. Most of the stocks of wbeat stored in CAP are upto 2 years old. (d) Does not arise. (b) During harvest seasons tbe availa bJe covered storage capacity in surplus States Loss due to Foodgralns Lying in Open does not match the stock levels. .In such situations, temporary storage arrangements are resorted to by storing of foodgrains in 157. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : CAP (covered and plinth) storages. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (c) As on 1.9.86 the Food Corporation had 21.36 million tonnes (owned 10.77, (a) the details of stocks of wheat and hired 10.59) covered storage accommodation rice lying in the open in the country showing for foodgrains, in addition to arrangements weight, place in each case, and since when; for CAP storage for 3.79 million tono~. Against this. the stock with the Corporation (b) the reaSOns for the above; as on J .9.86 was 17.55 million tonnes. There is thus no shortage in tbe overall context of FCI. However, in major pro (c) the steps takeD to arrange storage curement States like Punjab, Haryana and and the reasons for Dot making adequte Uttar Pradesh where the maximum procure" arrangements earlier; aod ment is undertaken by Food Corporation and other Government agencies, there is (d) tbe total amount of loss annually on shortase of covered storage accommodation. this account during tbe Jast three years '/ Food Corporation of India, Central Ware housing Corporation and the State Ware booing Corporations have taken up coos THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE truction programme of storage capacity MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL to tbe extent of 40 lakb tOPDes during the SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI 7th Plan. AZAD): (a) A statement showing region wise quantity of wheat stored in CAP by (d) The quantity and value of annual FCI as on 30.8.86 is given below. No. loss on account of storage under CAP stock of rice was stored under CAP as on during tbe la.t three years was as below: Year Quantity (M.T.) Value ------_._---_._---(Rs. Crores) 1983.8~ 6523 1.65 1984-85 6348 1.26 1985-86 46888 12.54 ------~--.-- 223 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 224 Statemtnt (a) whether a number of Public Sector Units have prepared five year perspective Region-wise quantity of wheat stoTed plan for boosting exports; and in CAP (Open) by F.C.I. as on 30th August, 1986 (b) if so, whether these have been examined by his Ministry? NORTH ZONE (In lakb tonnes) Delhi 0.16 THE M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE. Haryana 1.78 LOPMENT A.ND IN THE MINISTRY OP INDUSTRY (SHRl M.ARUNACHALAM): J and K 0.01 (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, with a view to Punjab 11.56 broad-bal:iing of their operations and to playa bigger role in the export e:f!ort, Public Raja~thun 3.60 Sector Units under tbe Department of Uttar Pladesh 5.46 Public Enterprises have drawn up ]oog ---- term export plaps. Total 22.57 ---- Import of Telecommunication Equipments 159. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will WEST ZONE the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : Gujarat 0;64 (a) whether Government propose to l.39 Kandla (PO) import Telecommunication equipment! Maharashtra 0.76 wonh Rs. 57 crores, during the current year for meeHng the demand of Madhya Pradesh 3.14 Telephone lines; Tota) 5.93 (b) whether these equipments are manu factured in the country also; (c) if so, what is the gap between the SOUTH ZONE demand and supply; and Andhra Pradesh 1.55 (d) by what time country wilJ be self Kerala 0.04 sufficient in this field? Tamil Nadu 0.01 ---- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CUMMUNICATIONS 1.60 Total (SHRI . SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) ---, ...... _ Yes Sir. EAST ZONE The following telecommunication equip Nil ment are expected to be received durins tbe --- --.....- current year to meet the demand of tele 30.tO Grand Total ---- phone lines : 1. Local Switching Equipment Five Year. Export Plans by Public Sector Units (i) Containerized Electronic. Exchange. 158. SHRI 0.5. BASAVARAJU :_ (ii) C-400 Cross Bar Exchange. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleat.;ed to state: (iii) Fetex \00 L Electronic Exchange. 225 Written Answers KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 2.. Underground Telepbone Cables the Minister of INDUSIR Y be pleased to state : (i) Jelly fined telephone cable. (a) whether the Industrial Promotion (ii)' Dry Core telephone cable. and Investment Corporation of Oriisa· Limited have applied to the Union (b) I. Loeal Switching Equipment Government S'or the issue of a Jetter of intent for a Naptba ba~ed Petro-Chemical The local switching equipment Complex at Paraaip; and mentioned at (a) (I) Above are not manufactured in country. (b) if so, when it is going to be approved? 2. Underground Telephone Cable • THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE These are manufactured in the DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND conutry but the existing indigenous PEl'RO·CHEMICALS IN THE M1NJSIRY capacity is inadequate to meet the OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI demand. CHANDRA SINGA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) With the, investment level of Rs. (b) Decision on the applicatioll wj)} be 4010 crores for the 7th Five Year Plan, taken after examination of the issues the gap in the damand and sUI1Ply of the involved. Joca) switching equioment and underground cable for the year )986·87 is indicated RepJa('crnent of Poual Ordrrs with below: nerruitment Fee Stamps Item Gap (86 87) 16). SHRJ SOMNATH RATti: Will the Minister of COMMUN1CATIONS be 0) Local switching About 1 lakh pleased to state: equipment. lines (a) whether Government propose 'to (ii) Underground About 22 LCKM replace Indian Postal orders by Recruitment cable. (Lakh Conductor Fee Stamps for payment of fees for various Kilometer) recuritment tests: and (b) if so. the broad features of the (d) Imports are mostly resorted to proposal? when equipment of the required type is either not manufactured in the country THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE or its production is inadequate. Manufllc MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS turing capacity of a number of (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) telecommunication equipment )ike digitel Yes Sir. electronic local exchange, electronic r ABX, Push Button telephone etc, has already been 1icensed and set up_ For other tele (h) These stamps will be in the communication rquipment like digital denominations of Rs. 2~ Rs. 8, Rs. 10, and Microwave system, optical fibre S}srem etc, Rs. 20 in the first instance and the deno steps have been taken taken to i01rort minations can be increased if warranted by technoJogy. It is expected thu1 the. nOt quote the circumstances which \\ould be put on manufacturitlg capacity will be availnHe for sale to the public frem an the Departmenta] moSt of the telecommunication items hy Sub Post Offices and Head Post Offices. end of t.he 7th Plan or early 8th Plan. H('wever, initially tbese stamps would be Bold through selected Head Post Offices. Letf~r of Jnh'nt for Naptha based B{,th UPSC/SSC wm,' however, continue to Petro.Chemlcals Co'mpJ ex at 8ccept tbe payment of fees by the candidates Paradip through Indian Postal Orders, ti)) s~ch time tbe new 'Recruitment Fees SCamps' are t~O. 5HRl SOMNATfi RATH Will maida avtlUa"le frOID all the Post Offices and 227 Written Answers . NOVEMBBR. 4, 1986 Written Answers 228' the initial problems, if any, are sorted Will the Minister of BNERGY be p]eas~ out. t.O state: Augmentation of Power Suppl, (a) the details or survey conducted by the Geological Survey of India to locate tbe 162. SHRI K. 'RAMACHANDRA deposits of coal in West Bengal and REDDY: Will the Minister of ENERGY Orissa during the yean 1985·86 and be pleased to state : 1986-87; (a) whether an additional power of (b) the findings thereof; and 22245 M. W. is needed to meet the demand of power by 1990; (c) the estimate of Coal deposit s in those tI fields ? (b) whether Union Government have given only Rs. S500 crores against a demand THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI of Rs. 12,600 crores by NTPC which is VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). Geological accounting. for 3S per cent of this power in Survey of India conducted regional tbe Plan period of 1985 to 1990; and exploration of coal by mapping and drilling in tbe Raniganj and Trans-Ajay coalfields (c) in view of the short supply of in West Bengal and in the Ib River and finance bow Union Government propose to Talcher coal fields in Orissa during the augment tbe power supply required by the field seasons, October "84 to September '85 end of 1990 1 and October '85 to September '86. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE During the period, a total ·of 2757.77 MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI million tonnes of coal comprising of 667.23 coalfield, SUSHIL \ ROHTAGI): (a) The targelted million tonnes in Raniganj 229.82 addition to the installed capar)lty for the mi·l1ion tonnes in traos-Ajay coalfield, Seventh Plan is 22245 MW and the 1042.91 million tonnes in Ib River coalfield generation requirement by the end of the and 817.81 million tonnes in Talcber Seventh Plan is estimated at 295 billion coalfield was estimated. Prominent coal units. According to tbe assessment in tbe seems were found'" to occur in Panashar Plan documerlt, the enerlilY demand in tbe Domra sub Basin of West BengaJ, Deocha country can be largely met with some Dewanganj area in Birbhum District of peaking shortage. West Bengal t in Lajkura scam of Kulda Manoharpur sector of Ib Riuer coalfield (b) There was a reduced allocation of and in Chandipada and adjoining areas of funds in the Seventh Plan to the Power Talcher coalfield in Orissa. Investigations Sector including NTPC in view of the for the field season October '86 to overall constraint of resources. September '87 have just started. (c) The power supply is being augment New Policy to Modernise Cement and ed by taking up Renovation and Paper Indust ries Modernisation Programme. reduction in the stabilisation period of the newly 164. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA commissioned units, improving/modernising Will.. the Minisrer of INDUSTRY be pleased maintenance procedure to bring down the to ~ tate: duration/outage time of the units, ensuring better quality of coat for power stations, (a) whether Government are working' efforts to reduce transmission and distribu on a new policy package for the modarnisa tion losse~, addition of short-gest'l.tion tion of cement and paper industries; capacity. energy con"ervation measures and etc. (b) if so, the details thereof and the Deposit! of Coal In West Bengal and steps taken in this respect so far ? Orissa THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 163. SURl Cl:UNTAMANl JaNI\ D!3 PART MBNT Of' INOUSTRIAl., 229 Written An~'wers KAR TIKA 13, 1908 (S4KA) Written' Answers 230 DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF generally fluctuate with the prices in the INDUSTRY (SH'RI M. ARUNA- international market. CHALAM) : (a) aod (b). In so fa~ as Cement lodustry is concerned, Government (c) In 'order to derive the maximum have already been encouraging modernisa advantage of falling prices in the world tion programme such as (i) conversion of market, imports of crude oil have bee'n manufacturing process from wet/semi wet arranged at market related prices •. to dry/semi dry (ii) energy conservation measures (iii) installation of pre-heater and Survey for Oil and Gas in Gujarat pre-calcinator (iv) installation of pollution control devices (v) settIng up of captive 166. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL power units to meet about 40% of power Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND requirements during period of power cuts NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (vi) modernisation of quarry operation (vii) crushing of raw material (viii) grinding of (a) whether any survey bas been cement (ix) instal1ation of rotary packing conducted to locate oil and gas in Gujarat plants (x) quality control equipments,' during the period 1985-86 and 1986-87 till etc. date; A World Bank loan of $ 200 million has (b) if so. what are tbe findings and in also been arranged this year for conv*!rsion wbich areas; and of wet to dry process of 6even cement units, sub-sector level training and technical (c) the sfeps being taken for drilling in assistance and re·lending to projects, these areas? undertak jog programmes of modernisation, rehabilitation, C'1ergy conservation and THE MINISTER OF STATrE OF THE productivity improvement etc. to cement MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND plants. NA TURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) Yes, Sir" In regard to Paper Industry, no neVO policy for modernisation is under considera (b) and (c). ONGC is evaluating the tion. data to identify proCjpects for exploratory drilling. Prices of Crud~ Oil (Translation) 165. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Minister of PET.ROLEUM AND Electrification of 'Villages In District NATURAL .GAS be pleased to state: Barabanki, Uttar Pradesh (a) whether prices of world crude oil 167. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD have declined recently; RAW AT: Will the Minister of ENERGY (b) if so, the effect of fall on Indian oil be ,pleased to state : prices; and (a) the number of villages in distriot (c) tbe, steps Government are taking to 'Barabanki of Uttar Pradesh, electrified so derive the maximum advantage of falling far with the assistance of the Union prices in the world market? Government; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) whether all those viJlages have not MINISTRY OF PETROLEU~ AND been electrified so far in respect of which a NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA darnand was made; DUTT) ! (a) World crude oil prices fell during tbe period January-July 1986 but· (c) if so, the' act\on taken so far in this have since stabilised. regard; 'and (b) Prices of petroleum products in the country are administered and do not (d) if 'not, tbe reasons· therefor '1 231 Written Answ(!r.~ NOVEMBER. 4, 1986 Written Answers 232 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE high cost of production aod extremely low DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE out-put per man,bift. After examination of MINISTRY Of ENERGY (SHRIMATI tbe Report of tbe Committee, tbe Govern SUSHILA ROHTAOI): (8) 176 villages in ment have directed Coal India Limited/ District Barabauki of Uttar Pradesb have Eastern Coalfields Limited to finalis~ so rar been ~Iectrified with tbe assistance reconstruction and development scb.mes of Rural Electrification Corporation under inre.pect of 10 mines for which Project the Union Government. Reports have been prepared. For tbe remaining 12 miDes Coal India Limitedl (b) Yes, Sic. Eastern Coalfields Limited have been directed to finalise re-deployment/Voluntary (c) and (d). The Rural Electrification Cor retirement scbemes for tbe workers wbo poration bas sanctioned 17 rural electrification would be affected due to closure of tbose schemes in District Barabanki for electrifica mines. tion of 1023 villages. The villaKes covered under the schemes sanctioned by tbe Rural Electrification Corporation are Indo..Japanese Collaboration in area. electrified by the U.P. State Electricity of Hlgb Tecbaology Board in a phased manner' in accordance with the Annual Work Programme. Tbe 169. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Rural Electrification Corporation is reaularly Will tbe Minister of JNDUSTRY be pleased monitoring the programme and impressing to state: upon tbe Board the importance of expedi tious electrification of villages. For this purpose, tbe Rural Electrification (a) whether he visited Japan for six days Corporation have opened a sub-office at durinl AUlust tbis year to explore possibili Lucknow. ties of steppina up Indo-Japanese collabora tion incilldini tbat in areas of high technology; and ( English] Coal Mines under Eastern Coa lfield. Ltd. (b) if so, the outcome of his VISit, in terms of conaborations struck and like)y to 168. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA be struck between the two countries in public NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will tbe sector. private sector and joint lector? Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (fi) the number of coal mines under the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Eastern Coal fields Ltd.; DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA (b) whether some of the coal mines CHALAM) : (a) and (b). Hon'ble Sbri under operation by Bastern Co~lfields Ltd. N.D. Tiwari, the tben Union Minister of (ECL) have become uneconomic; and Industry, visited JapaD "or a period of six days in the month of August, 1986. (c) if so, their number and whether EeL proposes to close down tbose coal Amona various matters, the visit was mines? a imed at apprising tbe JapaDese about tbe efforts of Government of India to simplify THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI the procedures and improved infrastructural V ASANT SATHE): (a) There are 123 facilities and for exploring potentials for working mines under Eastern Coalfields industrial'tooperatioo iocJudina in 'hiab .. tech Limited a subsidiary of Coal India Limited. areas between the two countries. (b) and (c). The Chari Committee appointed by the Government to study the industrial cooperation between any two WllJ king of Eastern Coalfields Limited. countries is a continuous process and, inter-alia, identified 22 coal mines which therefore, it is difficult to quantify tbe results have become uoe;oDomical on .CGOUDt of of Il linaular visi t or effort in this directioD. 233 Written Answers KARTIKA 13,1908 (SAKA) Written Answer.) 234 (Trans/ali on) 1 2 I.creale In PrIces or Pultea, 011. and Foodlralo. Masoor + 2.6 170. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Urad - 0.7 Will the Minister or FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state tbe extent of Vaoaspa-ti - 0.3 increase reaistered in tbe prices of pu)set, oils and foodaraios during tbe last three Grouodout Oil + 4.3 montbs tosether with tbe reasons therefor? Mustard Oil +14.2 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL Coconut Oil +31.8 SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI AZAD) : The information is furnished in a statement Ginae)Jy Oil +10.4 given below. Tbe increase in tbe prices of some commodities durina tbe las" tbree Kar~i Oil +23.4 months may be mainly attriboted to the impact of tbe lean season and lower produc- Cottonseed Oil + 1.8 tion of certain agricultural commodities like oilseeds and potatoes. Rice Bran Oil steady All Commodities 1.6 Statement + Percell/age variat/on In the Wholt/sale Price lndlces 0/ foodgrains and Closing of Branch POlLt Offices 10 edible 0/1, during the lall three Uttar Pradesb monlh$ ending 18.10.1986 171. SHRI HARlSH RAWAT: Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Item Percentaae variation pleased to state: between week-endiol 19-7-1986 and week (a) whether certain 1)08t Offices or endinl 18-10-1986 Brancb Post Offices in Uttar Pradesh circle ----_._------have been served notices for their closure, co of 1 2 due Doo-deposit Don-refundable ---_._------_ .. _... -._--_.__ .. _----- contributions witbin tbe stipulated lime or Rice + 4.3 due to noo-depoliic tbereof; Whoat + 4.4 (b) if so, tbe district"wise number of such Post Offices in tbis circle; Jowar - 1.9 (c) whether according to new Dorms Bujra 6.1 accepted in 1978, rules were relaxed for opening of extra-departmental Post Ollices Barley + 8.7 and Branch Post Offices in hiH areas; and Maize -11.3 (d) if 80. wbetber Government would consider to live exemption to Post Offices Ragi - 3.S or Brancb Post Offices operating in bill areas of Uttar Pradesh from depositina non- Gram - 3.8 refundable contributions 1 . Arbar +13.2 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINlSTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS MOODS - 3.4 (SMRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) and 235 Written Allswers NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Written Allswers 236 (b). Notice of closure bas been issued in· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE r~spect of eight post offi~es on account of MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS d~fault in paym~nt of non-returnable con .. (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a> tnbution (NRC). Tbe district WlliC number Yes Sir, tbe equipment bas been received at is as follows :- port of cn try. 1. Agra 1 (b) The electronic exchanaes at Pitbora garb and Ranikbet Gitles are planned to be 2. Almora 1 installed during. 1987-88. 3. Bareily 1 4. Bahraicb Terms a ad CondUioBS of Foreign LOMO raised by ONG<.: 5. Debra Dun 1 173. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOl: 6. Gonda 1 Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 1 7. Jbansi (a) whether it is a fact tbat the Oil and 8. Pithoragarh Natural Gas Commission propose: to borrow 500 miJIion dollars from abroad; and (c) Yes Sir, under the orders issued on 28-8-78. relaxation bas been given in respect (b) if so, tbe terms aDd conditions on of population and expected revenue in tbe W Qlcb the Joan will be raised '7 case of billy backwar4 and tribal areas. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (d) Orders already exist tbat, post MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND offices opened under NRC scbeme pnor t.o NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA 28-8-1978 can be continued witbout NRC If D~IT): (a) and (b). ONGC propose to the losses incurred subsequent to tbat date raise a Joan of US $575 miJjIOD as foUows : arc within tbe liberalised norms. However. losses which have accrued prior to revision (i) A convontional LIBOR (London of norms are to be paid by tbe sponsors In ter Bank Offered Rate) traD"he under the NRC scheme. Similarly, post of '-18 $325 million with an offices opened under NRC scheme after interest rate of i-% p.a. over LIBOR 1 to 3 years and 3/8% 28-8-1978 in respect of whicb NRC is for calculated on the basis of relaxed norms can p.a. over LIBOR for 4 to 10 years. be continued only subject to payment of. (ii) A Japanese tax-spared tranche of NRC dS due. Tbe cases referred to in reply . US $175 million with an interest to (a) and (b) of the question are also rate of LIBOR flat. governed by these principles. (iii) A UK/Belgian tax-spared tranche Setting up Telcph.one Exchanges at of US $75 milJi()n with an interest pitboragarh and Rauikbet, rate of 0.01 % over LIBOR. Uttar Pradesh The loan would be guaranteed by the 172. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will· Go~ernment and would ba ve a maturity the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pellod of 10 years, with a grace period of pleased to state : 5! years. . (a) whether equipment8 for the telepbone exchanges to be set up at OpeniDg of Post Offices and Branch Pitboragarh and Ranikbet cities in Uttar Post Office. in Andhra Pradesh Pradesh have been received; and 174. SHRI V. l'ULSIRAM: WHJ the (b) if so, the time by which tbese will be Minister of COMM UNICATJONS be ill stalled ? pleased to state : Written Answers· 238 237 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) (a) tbe total number of post and tele .. (c) tbe position with reprd to c*trifica araph offices, post offices and brancb post don of the blocks in Akbarpur and Tanda '2 offices in Andbra Pradesh as on 30th Tehails under the said scheme and tbe number of villasca electrified against tbe September. 1986; targets .6 xed 1· (b) whether the existiog post offices are facinl a great difficulty in meeting tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE requirements of the general public in the DEPARTMBNT OF POWER IN THE ~ MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI' State; SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) to (c). The (c) if so, wbether there is any proposal information is being collected and will be under consideration of U aion Government laid on tbe Table of the House. to open more post and telegraph offices, post offices and branch post offices in And bra Pradesh; and Foreign CoJJaborations by ancillary (d) if so, the details thereat' 7 uuits of Maruti Udyog Ltd. THE MINISTER OF Sl'AIE IN THB 176. SHRI BHATTAM SRJRAMA MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS MURTY: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) be pleased to state : The total nurobet or post offices in Andbra Pradesb postal Circle as on 30tb September, (a) wbether it is a fact that a large Dumber 1986 is 16.142, out of whlch 13,542 are of anciUat.y units and original equipment bran~h post offices anJ 5.154 are combined suppliers to the Maruti Udgog Ltd. have offices with telegrapb facility. entered into foreign collaboration aarecments io order to supply their products to (b) No, Sir. Maruti; (c) and (d). There al~ no proposal at (b) if so, the names of Indian parties present to open more post offices in the and their foreign collaborators: and Circle. However, 40 long-distance public telephones arc planned to be opened in (c) in bow maoy of the~e cases, equity 1986.87 out of which those opcueJ ill post partioipation has also been allowed? offices will have tl;lcgTuph facility also on pbone-com basis. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL lTran,dation] DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA .. Electrification of Akbarpur and Tll'Ddll CHALAM) : (a) Consequent upon the 'febsiJI, Uttar Pradesh induction of new technology and modornisa· . tion of existing units in the automobile 175. SHRI R.P. SUMAN: Will the vebicle sector in tbe country, a largc number Minister of ENERG Y be pleased to state : of ancillary units have been allowed to import latest technology eilber to update (a) the number of villages selected in their existing product or (or setting up of different blocks of Faizabad district of new units. These units ace not exclusively Uttar Pradesh" under the Rural Electrification Original Equipment suppliers to Maruti Scheme during tbe last tbree years and tbe alone. present position in this regard; (b) and (c). The detaiJs of an approved (b) whether Government have issued foreian collaborations sbowina tbe names of any separate instructions for the electrifica Indian and foreign firms, item of manu .. tion of colonies of Scheduled Castes and if facture and nature of collaboration are jO, wbother tbese ace beiDa properly im .. published on a quarterly basis by Jndian plemented and if not,. tbe reasons therefor; Investment Centre 8S a supplement to its Monthly News Letter. Copies of this and 239 Written Answt'rs NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers ~40 publication are sent reauJarly to Parliament PendluK Appllcatloas for TelepboDe Library. ConnedioDs in Patb80amthltta District of Kerala Float'og of Tenders by Public Limited 178. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the Companies Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : 177. SaRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY Will the Minister of (a) tbe number of applications for INDUSTRY be pleased to state: telephone connections peodina in tbe Pathaoamthitta distri~t of Kerala; and (a) whetber it is a fact tbat a number of Public Limited Companies are allowed (b) thc time by whjch these arc likely to to enter into contracts with companies in be disposed of ? which the Directors or theit relatives are interested either as Directors and/or sbare THE MINISTER OF STATE .IN THE holders for selling/buying materials and/or MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS rendering services; (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The number of applications pending for (b) the guidelines for approving such telephone connections in Patbaoamtbitta contracts; and District of Kerala at the end of August. 1986 is 3.802. (c) wbether the Public Limited Companies have been ever asked to float (b) These applications are likely to be tenders so tbat they would get the best cleared durin& tbe 7tb Plan, dependinl upon service at the lowest cost 1 tbe availability of resources. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Subsidy on Ratioo for Weaker SectloDI DBVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA 179. SH.R.I K • .KUNJAMBU; Will tbe CHALAM) : (a) Yt:s, Sir. Under the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES proviso to sub-sec. (1) of Sec. 297 of the be pleased to state ; Companies Act, 1956, only in .case .of a company having a paid up capltal of not (a) whetber Government propose Jess tban rupees one crore, no such contract introducing a scbeme for subsidislDB the shall be entered inlo except with tbe ration for weaker sections in the urban previous approval of Central Government; areas; and (b) Tbere are no prescribed guidelines ( b) if so, the details thereof ? for apPfoving such conlcac.ts. Ba~b application is considered on ments. While TdE MJNISTER Of STATE IN THE according approval, it is, inter-alia, look~d into whetber the prices charged from or paid MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRJ GHULAM NABI to tbe contractee party by the applicant company are reasonable and are not lowe,r/ AZAD): (a) and (b). The Central Govern ment bas the for higher, as tbe case may be, then the pr~vall undertaken responsibility pro.:urement and distribution of seven jng market rates and that the contract IS not less advantageous to the compaoy as essential commodities viz. ricc, wheat, levy compared to similar contracts with other sugar, kerosene, imported edible oils, loft coke and controlled cloth under the' public parties. distribution system. There is a substantial (c) While considering the proposal, element of subsidy in operation of this enquiries are also made as to wbether .cheme. The objective of the public compaoies have floated tenders, so as to distribution system is to provide tbese seven Cllllure tbat the services rendered by tbe essential commodi~ie8 to consumers, parti CJotractee party ate at the competitive cularly to thosc who belons to weaker sections of the society. at reasonable pricos. price. 241 Written Answtrs KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 242 Besides, the Cent rat Government Investment ceiling on Small and launched a scheme in November. 1985 to Ancillary Units provide wbeat and rice at specially subsidised rates to the people liviDg ·io 181. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE integrated Tribal, Development Project areas PATIL: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY in 17 States and 2 Union Territories aod the be pleased to state : eotire States/Union Territories of Meghalaya, Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh. Laksbdweep (a) whether there is a proposal under and Dadea and Nagar Haveli, uoder this consideration of Government to raise the Acbeme, ~beat is being distributed at Rs. inv~stment ceiling 00 small and ancillary I.SO per kg. and common variety of rice at units; Rs. 1.85 per Kg. (b) if so, what would be the new ceiling on these units keeping in view the Govern Sbort Term and Long Term Sugar ment's desire to enabJe them to avail of new Policy technologies to compete with sophisticated technology; and 180. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : Will the Minister of FOOD AND (c) if not, the reasons therefor? CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government propose to DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL issue short-term and long-term Sugar Policy DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF as per the assurances given in the House; INDUSTRY (SHRJ M. ARUNA CHALA M) : (a) to (c). A proposal to (b) if so, the details thereof; and raise the investment C'eiling in respect of certain selected products with a view to enable them to avail of new te(:hnologies in (c) whether Government propose to order to produce quality products at ,.reorganise the Levy Price Sugar Zones; if so, competitive prices is under consideration of details thereof and the various incentives Government. proposed to boost sugar production in the country? Pooling of Guest Houses and Liaison THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Offices of Public Sector Enterprises MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL 182. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NAB! PATIL: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY AZAD) : (a) Yes, Sir. be pleased to state : (b) The matter is stiJ) under (a) whether his attention has been consideration of tbe Government. drawn to the news item in tbe Fjnancial Express of 31 August, 1986 according to (c) In order to provide incentives to which Government are considering a maximise sugar production. Government bad proposal to pool various guest bouses and announced in November. 1985 tbat tbe Jiaison offices of Public Sector Enterprises statutory Minimum price of sugarcane with a view to minimise tbe expenditure; payable by sugar factories during 1986 .. 87 and season would be raised from Rs. 16 50 to (b) if SOt decision taken in the matter 1 Rs. 17.00 per quintal linked to 8.5 per cent recovery, The prices 00 tbe above basis THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have sioce been notified on 6. JO.86. Govern .. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL ment have also decided to grant a rebate in DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY excIae duty on excess production of ~ugar OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. durias tbe months of October and CHALAM): (8) Yes Sir. It has been November, 1986 over tbe average productioD" decided t,o. examine the need for having in the corresponding period of the previous separate IUHSOfl (lffites in Delhi for d fTC!I."n' two years. public enterprises. 243 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written Answers 244 (b) No decision bas been taken. (c) Funds may be raised through public bonds at the appropriate staae. Import aod Allocation of Alcohol Approval for Ib Valley Super Tbermal 183. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE ,Power Statio" in Orissa PAT1L: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : 186. SHRIl\1ATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased (a) how much quantity of alcohol bas to state: beeD imported upto tbe end of September, 1986; (a) whether the proposed Ib Valley Super Thermal' Power Station in Orissa has (b) what is its State-wise allocation; been accorded Central approval; (c) wbether Government have recently (b) if so. the latest estimated cost and banned import of alcohol; and tbe capacity of the project; (d) if so. the reasons thereof? (c) the funding pattern as decided by Government; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO.CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY' (d) the steps taken to expedite tbe OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. lAl.. execution of the above power project 1 CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) The information THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE is being collected and wiJI be pJaced on the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Table of the House as soon as possible. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (c) and (d). The facility nf duty-free SUSHI LA ROHTAGJ): (a) to (d). The import of denatured spirit is available upto proposal in respect of execution of the Ib 30th November, 1986 only. Valley Thermal Power Project in the State Sector in Orissa has been techno-economi .. Setting up of Electronic Telepbone cally approved by the Central Electricity Authority. The capacity of tbe proposed Excbange Fartory at Dangatore project is of 4 units of 210 MW each and J84. SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Will the tbe estimated cost is Rs. 887.99 crores. Minister of COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to sta te : On account of constraint of resources in the State Plan, tbe Orissa autboritles (a) whether the proposal for second have suggested implementation of tbe electronic telepbone exchange factory, project with external assistance. A view in BSS-l1 to be set up duriog the Seventh Plan this regard could be taken after the in Bangalore. bas not been cleared; comp-etitivcness of the available offen bas been determined and the project bas (b) if so, reasons thereof; and received investment approval. (c) whether the Union Government Cheaper Generation of POlYer througb propose to explore possibilities of raising Hydro-Electric Plants fuods for setlin. up electronic telephone excbange factory at Bangalore, Karnataka 187. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: State? SHRI P.M. SAYEED : THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of ENERGY be ~UNISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pleased to state: (SHRl SONTOSH MOHAN DEV.) : (a) The Government. have approved tbe (a) wbether Government have laid greater emphasis on generation of power pr' .posal in principle. througb hydro -electric plants a s (be cost l b) Does Dot apply. involved in it is cheaper tban any 245 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, -1908 '(SAKA) Written Answers 24~ otber power plants and also it is endeavour bas been to accelerate) the non-polluting: development of hydroelecfric power to the extent possible keeping in view tbe funds (0) if so. the amount earmarked in constraint; tbe recurring expenses in the Seventh Plan for power generation throuah case of hyde) generation are the lowest bydro-electric plants; compared to other conventional options for power generation. (c) the number of hydro-electric plants proposed to be set up in different States (b) The approved outlay in tbe Seventh during the abovo Plan period; and Plan for hyde1 power generation projects is about Rs. 6500 crores. ' (d) the details thereof? (c) and (d). The hydroelectric plants which are targeted to give benefits in tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Seventh Plan are listed in tbe Statement DEPARTMENT OF PO\VER iN THE given below: MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHIL'&" ROHTAGI): (a) Government's Statement List 0/ hydroelectric plants which art! targeted to give benefits In the Seventh Plan S. No. Name of tbe Project Installed capacity Capacity IikeJy to be (MW) added during VII Plan ------~----. ----~.- ----~--, 1 2 3 4 _____ ". ""' __ ' __ '_." ___ . ______L _____. ______" ______----_. -_. .- .-.----. NORTHERN REGION Haryana J. Western Yamuna Canal 6X8 48 Hlmacbal Pradesb I. Sanjay (Bbaba) 3 X40 120 2. Andbra 3 X 5.65 16.95 Jammu and Kashmir 1. Upper Singh St. II 2X3S 70 Punjab 1. Mukerian 6 X 15+6 X 19.5 162 2. U8De St. II 3 Xl'S 4S Rajasthan •. Mt'bi Bajaj Sasar 2X25+2X4' ~40 .' 1 ' '1,#1 .,~(!,",. A~tv.'r8 ~~.~W Wrllt'," ~"'wer,$ M8 1 2 3 4 '~-...... - .... Uttar Prad.... I. "ri Bbali St. If 4X76 304 WESTERN REGION ~.r.. I. lCadana PSS 2X60 120 ~~'~rr.~~ 1. Bannpr TORI 3 X 10'+2 X 15+3 X IS 210 2. Hasdlo BaDlo 3>'.4,9 120 3. Barli 2X45 90 M ....ra.latr. 1. Sillarl lX60 60 2. . Bbir. Tall It.ac. 2X40 80 3. Bhandardar. I X 10+1 X3' 10 4. Pyaoa I XI0 10 5. Bbatsa I X 15 15 6. Kbadakwalla 2X8 16 7. Ujjain.. I X12' 12 CO",OD (M.P ./M.".r.8latra) 1. P~~cb 2X80 160 SOUTHERN REGION A.lllar. Pr..... 1. SdaaUam St. II 3XI10 330 2. Na ..rjuna .... r RBC Extn. I X30 30 3. NqarjuD8sa.. r LBC 2X30 60 4. A.P. Power Ho..... at BaUm.J. lX30 60 5. Poclaampad 3X9 27 §. PoDN Abobilacq 3XIO ~ 1 2 3 4 Earn.taka I. Varabi 2 X 11!.2 X4.S 239 • 2. Obataprabba 2X16 32 Keral. 1. Id_malayar' 2X3",.f 7' 2. Kakkad 2X2S SO 3. Idukki St. II 3Xl30 390 4. Kallada ixi.s 1'5 Tamil Nadu 1. Kadamparai PS8 4X 100 400 2. Lower M'ettor 4 X2'X 15 120 3. Kundah-V·Addl. 1 X20 20 EASTERN REGION Blbar l. Eastern Gandak Canal 3X5 15 2. North Koel 2X 12 24 Orle•• t. Hirakud 7th Unit I X 37.' 37.S 2. Upper Kolab 3X80 240 3. ReDial I Extn. 3XSO ISO West Benp' 1. Ramm.ft' St. II 4 X 12.5 50 2. Tce.ta Fall. I to V 3 X3 X7.S 22.S NORTH. EASTERN REGION A•• am 1. Karbl LaD.,l 2X50 100 2. Dba.iri I"X 1.!3 19." ) ,l I " ~,~. J' ; , 2'1 Written A.nswers NOVSMBER 4. 1986 W,itten A.nswers 252 1 2 3 4 Ceatral 1. Salal 3 X 115 345 2. Cham era 3X180 180 3. Kopili 2X2S+2XSO 100 4. Panchet Hill 1 X40 40 [Tran.tlatIDnl Republic under consideration of the Union Government. Settloi up of Power Plaot baled on Solar Energy 10 Rajastban (d) Does not arise. 188. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER Automatic Telephone Exchange JAIN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be Facilities in district headquarters pleased to state : In RaJastban (a> whether Western Rajasthan is facing 189. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER acute power crisis; JAIN Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to (b) whether there is great potential in state : Western Rajasthan for generating power by installing power plants based on solar (a) whether the facility of Automatic energy; Telephone Exchanges in many district headquarters in tbe country is not avail able; (c) whether the Union Government propose to take steps to remove tbe power crisis in Western Rajasthan by helping tbe (b) the names of the district headquarters State Government in harnessing nOD- in Rajasthan where the facility of A uto conventional energy sources with the malic Telephone Exchange is not available; collaboration of German Democratic and Republic; and (c) tb~ date by which the facility of Automatic Telephone Exchange in the (d) if so. whether details in this regard aforesaid district headquarters will be made will be laid on the Table of the House ? available? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI OF STATE VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) (b). Yes, Sir. Yes. Sir. (c) We are exploring projects for (b) The information is given in tbe generating electric power in Rajasthan statement be) ow. through solar energy in cooperation with the State Government. However" there is no (c) Automatic excbanaes at all District project on non.. conventional energy with headquarters will be iDstalled duriol tbe 7tb collaboration of German·, Democratic Plan. :,' :, -.'" 2S3 Written Answers KARTltA 13, 1908 Statement pur, Hajipur, Madbubani, Purnea. Nawada. Dumka. Kishanganj aod Giridih. Na",.,o/ dllutct "eadquarter, In Raja"han where the lacility 0/ (b) The work of conctruction of new automatic exchange II not buiJdina is not yet complete. The equipment available for installation has also not yet been received. 1. Baoswara (c) Subject to availability' of Stores 2. Barmer automatic exchanges at Bihar Shariff and other cities are planned to be completed by 3. Bundi 1987... 88. 4. Dungarpur [English] s. laisalmer Lok Adalats and Family Courts In 6. Jatore Orissa 7. Jbalwar ]91. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL : Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be 8. Jhunjbunu pleased to state : 9. Sawai Madhopur (a) the number of HLok Adalat" held in Orissa during 1986 and the number of 10. Sirohi caBes disposed of; 11. Tonk (b) wbether there is any proposal to hold such courts particularly in district Setting up of Automatic Telephone headquarters so that people with limited Exchanges In Bihar means can get quick justice; and 190. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV : Cc) the progress made in setting up Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS family courts in Orissa? be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the total number and names of cities MINISTR Y OF LAW AND JUSTICE in Bibar where arrangements are being (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) = (a) and (b). made for setting up of automatic telephone According to the information furnished by exchanges; the Committee for Implementir.g Legal Aid Schemes: (b) whether 8 new building has already been constructed in Bihar Sbarif for the 5 Lok Adalat have so far been held in said purpose but the work relating to Orissa and 346 cases were disposed of. installation of equipment for an automatic telephone exchange in this building bas not The Orissa Legal Aid and Advice Board been started so far; and have decided to hold one Lok AdaJat every week in some part of the State. (c) the time by which sucb exchanges will Itart functionina in Bihar Shariff and (c) No family Court has so far been set other cities where arrangements for this up in the State of Orissa. The Government purpose are being made ? of India is pursuing the rna tter with the State Government. THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Refining a Capacity of Imported Edible (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Oil Arraolements are beinl made to set up 8 automatic oXChaDIe8 io Bibar at Db ...l- 192. SHRI PRAKASH V. PAl IL 2SS Written Answers NOVBMBBR 4. 1986 Written Answers 256 Will the Minister of POOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 1 2 (a) whether it is a fact tbat tbe Union B. State Go,ern_entl Government after refining imported edible oil, pack it in their own factories and 1. West Bengal Essen- supply to Public Distribution system tial Commodities channels; Supply Corporation (b) if so, the present refioiDI and tinning C. Cooperati,e Units capacity available and to what extent 1. Statred requirements of the metropolitan towns are 300 being met; D. Prl,ate Units at 3,000 Calcutta (c) whether Government propose to 8ubstantiaUy increase the capacity; and Total 14,800 (d) if so, details tbereof ? The allocations of imported edible oUs THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for distribution through PDS are made for MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL the States as a whole and not specificaHy for SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NAB} metropolitan towns. AZAD) : (a) Some portion of imported edible oil is got refined and tinned by the (c) and (d). Hindustan Vegetable Oils State Trading Corporation, the canaJising Corporation Ltd., a Ctntral Government agency for imports of edible oils, for undertaking, is shortly going to havo distribution through the public distribution additional refining capacity of 100 tonnes system. State Trading Corporation arranges per day, refining of imported crude edible oil and its tinning with units of Central and State Impact of Imported Edible on In Governments and cooperative units. An boldlng Price Line exception has been made in the case of West Benga] where refining is also being 193. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: done by refining units in the private Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL sector. SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (b) The details of the refining and tinning capacity (in metric tonnes ptr (a) whether it is a fact that imported edible oil supplied to States plays an month) offered to State Trading Corporation are given below : important part in bolding tbe price line; In Metric Tonnes (b) if so. whether any assessment ha, Refining capacity been made as to what extent tbis has been per Month really effective in containing prices within reasonable limits and jf so. tbe detail. thereof for the last tbree years; and 1 2 (c) wbether Government propose to set up an organisation which will procure A. Public Sector (Central Government) indiaeDous edible oil and supply it to States to ensure tbat the fluctuation in price 1. Hindustan Vegetable 10,000 is kept to the minimum and if so, when ? Oils Corporation (Bombay, Kanpur, THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB Delhi and Amritsar) MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHill GHULAM NAB) 2. Modern Food 500 AZAJ» : (a) Ya, Sir. 167 Written Answers KARTIKA 13 •.1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 258 (b) While no specific .urvey in this (c) bow it is disposed of; rcaard bal been made, the supply of imported edible oils keeps tbe prices of iDdi.~nous edible oils in check. (d) whether Government propose living tbis wheat to State Governments for (c) Tbere is no such proposal at issue to farms as a support measures to prosent under the consideration of the famine relief to cattle at a speciaUy sub ... Central Government. sidised rate; and Dispoial of Damaged Wheat (e) if so, Ibe action taken in this regard ? 194. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL (6) whether a substantial quality of SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI wheat gets damaged while in storage; AZAD) : (a) and (b). No, Sir. However, the quantity of wheat stocks declared (b) if so. the quality of wheat declared damaged during the last tbree years are given below: damaged during 1983. 1984 and 1985. loparately; Period AveraRe stock Quantity of wheat %age of bolding of transferred from damages to wheat by Fel sound to damaged average stock (lakh tons) account holdina (lakh tons) 1982-83 52.31 0.20 0.38 1983-84 78.02 0.26 0.33 1984-85 109.40 0,26 0,24 (c) Damaged stock of wheat are used (a) the number of telephone exchanges for animal feed. industrial purposes, manure under construction in Bihar Telephone or dumping, depending UPOn the extent of Circle during the current yeai and the damage. They arc offered to the State amount allocated therefor; Oovernmeats in the first instance, and tben to approved parties. (b) tbe number of exchanges likely to (d) and (e). No such proposals is under be completed by March, 1987 the number consideration of the Government. of telephone connection to be provided from each of tbtm and the number of [Tran./al/on) persons in this area who will remain in tbo waiting Jist for telephone connections thereafter; and Settlog up of Telepbone Exchanges in Blbar (c) tbe number of other telephone 19S. SHRI K.ALI PRASAD PANDEY: exchanges being set up in Bihar which will Will the Minister of COMMVNJCATIONS start func,.oQinS iQ f~~ nexf fioancia~ \)0 pJolsed to "ato ; reD" ? . - 259 Written Answers NOVEMBER ., 1986 Written Answers 260 THB MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE Informarion reeardinl 1985·86 is beinl MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS collected. (SURl SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The number of telephone exchanges to be The details for 1986·87 are liveo iostalled in replacement of existing manual below. c.rr:changes in Bibar Circle during 1986-87 Is 8. The amount allocated is approx 3.S crores. Pay scale/designation Persons employed (b) One MAX·I exchange...,r 2000 lioes , ._------_. ,._------is expected to be completed by March. 87, replacing the manual exchange. The Rs. 2700-3500 oumber of persons who will remain in the waiting list for telephone connections is Chief Engineer (P) 350. Rs. 2 ~OO-3200 (c) 7 exchanges are planned to be set Joint Manager up in the next year. In additional IS MAX-III type exchanges are planned under Ra. 1130·2400 liberalised policy. 1. Geophysicist 4 [Eng/i.h] 2. Chemist 1 PersoDs Recruited In ONGC 3. Programmer 7 196. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will t:le Minister of PETROLEUM AND 4. Administrative Officer 3 NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 5. Assistant Legal Adviser (a) number of persons directly recruited by the Oil and Natural Gas Commission . during 1985-86 and 1986·87 for Group 'A' 6. Medical Officer posts; 7. Medical Officer (Homoeo) (b) break up of the above by designa tion and grade; 8. Stores aud Purchase Officer 2 (c) the method and scheme of selec 9. Transport Officer 3 tion; 10. Driller (Drming) 3 (d) whether the merit list was prepared on the basis of the interview alone or tbe 11. Assistance Director (Res) 4 combined performance in the written test and the interview; and 32 (e) whether the marks obtained by the candidates selected or otherwise in the (c) In tbe followins four ways: written te'\t and the interview were supplied to them on demand ? (i) Through open advertisements. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (ii) Selection from amonlst the foreigo NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM A based Indian Nationals. DUTT) : (0) and (b). 32 persons have been directly recruited between 1.4.1986 and (iii) Selection from amonlst the EIt- 23.10.1986 for group 'A' posts in Oil and service officers spoosored br Nat~ral 08$ Com.mission, (9NQC;). poreoce Orsani8atio~s~ 261 Written Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) fl'rllten Answers 262 (iv) Selection from amongst tbe depart was synchronized with the grid on 7th mental employees. September. J 986 and a shut-down was taken on 17tb October. 1986. Distribution (d) For tbe posts involving written test < or power from the project would take place and interview. the merit list is prepared OD after the unit goes into regular operation. the basis of combined performance. For the posts involving selection by interview Improvement '0 Utilisation or Installed alonc, the merit list is prepared on the ... . Generation Capacity basis of overall appraisal of the candidate by the selection Committee taking into 198. SHaI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: account the candidate's academic qualifica Will .tbe Minis,ter of ENERGY be pleased to tions, past experience aDd performance at state: the interview. (e) Tbe proceedings 'of selection being (a) the names of States/Union Terri confidential, marks obtained by the tories which have shown improvement in candidates are not communicated. utilisation of installed generation capacity during the first six months of 1986-87 as compared to tbe comparable period during Power Supply from Chukha Project in 1985-86; Bhutan 197. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN (b) the maximum and minimum utilisa Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to tion rate during the two periods; and state : (c) whether a plant .. by-plant review has (a) whether power supply. has become been undertaken in order to raise the available from Chukha' Project in Bhutan; capacity utilisation of the plants particularly of tbose Jagging behind in power genera (b) if so, the quantity available at tion? present; (c) the distribution of available power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE among various States; and DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI ld) tbe reason for Bihar not receiving SUSHILA ROHTAOI): (a) and (b). adequate sbare 1 State Electricity Boards/Organisations who have shown improvement in thermal plant THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE load factor during April-September 1986 DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE compared to tbe same period last year MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI together with average, maximum and SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (d). Power minimum plant load factor are indicated in generation at the Chukba Project in Bhutan the statement given below. (4 X 84 MW) bas not yet commenced on a sustained basis. ·Unit No. I of th~ project (c). Yes, Sir. 263 Writt.n Answ.r, NOVSMBBR 4. 19" Writ"" ;CnsWe's 264 Statement Pia'" l(HId factor of SIal. Ellle,trlcity Board,fOrgan/lotlon. who· have ,hor,n ImproV.",.IIt, durl"g fir" dx 1ItO",/u ,6t, '~Q' compar.d to ,Gilt. period IIUI ",ar Board/Oraaolsatioo P.L.F. (%) durin. April-September ------1986·87 1985·86 _ -··---__ .. _ ... _w, __..... _ .. _ Avaraae Max. MiD. Average Max. Min. 1. DESU 71.3 74.7 63.9 61.7 64.9 54.7 2. UPSBB 36.7 48.1 27.2 35.2 43.6 24.2 3. APSEB 65.9 76.1 53.2 62.1 72.4 467 4. TNBB 66.3 82.9 44.1 51.1 S7.7 43.S s~ WBSEB 44.3 50.1 36.0 42.0 47.7 37.6 6. D.P.L. 24.9 31.7 18.3 23.9 28.3 21.1 7. NTPC 69.1 76.2 63.1 57.6 62.3 50.2 8. Trombay 66.7 70.9 62.7 52.2 S9.8 28.3 9. CESC 58.3 60.3 55.0 55.8 57.6 52.6 OpenlDK of New POlt Offices in Bibar Post Offices. However t it is proposed to coovert 45 ex.tra departmental sub offices 199. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: into branch post offices in tbe Circle duriog Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 1986-87. be pJeased to state : (b) and (c). The question does Dot (a) wbether tbe programmes for opening ariso io view of reply to part of abe new Post Offices durina 1986-87 and for Question. uparadiol existinl post offices ba~ been finalised; Stock of Food.rain. "Itb F .C.I. aDd otber State. (b) if 80. tbe number of new post 200. SHR} BIRINDER SINGH: Will offices to be opened in each State; and tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (c) tbe location of the proposed new Post Offices in Bibar? tbe total stock of food,raiDs in tbe country as on 30 September, 1986. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) tbe stock position of Food Corpora MINSTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS tion of Jndia aDd the State Governments. . (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) At State-wise; and present. there is a ban on creation of new f'Ol'lh. There is, therefore. no prolramme (c) whetber tbe Food Corporation of for opening or Dew p08t offices in Bibar or India or tbe State Governmonts make other Circles durio, 1986-87. There is also distribution of tbe stock to other DO proarammo of op,rldltion of caiatina States ? 265 Written Answers ,. KARTIKA 13, J908 (SAKA) Wr;tt~n Answers 266 THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE Corporation of India and Public a.eDeies, MINISTRY OF PooD AND CIVIL as on 30-9-1986. is liven below. SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI AZAD) : (a;) Total stocks of food,rala with tbe (c) The stocks beld in tbe Central Pool Pood Corporation of India and otber arc released to the various States/Union public alcncies, as OD 30th September. 1986, Territories alainst tbe allocations issued by are estimated at 23.68 millioD tODDCS. the Government of India. (b) A statement jodicatioa State-wise posltion of roodlrains stocks witb Food Statement ~/atement Indicating e~tl",a'.ed "ocks 0/ food,ralns with Food CorpMation o/Indla and public alenele, QI on 30.. 9.1986 (In 000 tonnos) States/UTs Rice Wbeat Coarse Total Grains " ~---- ...... ~-.~------_---' --- ._- - ---~~-~~~ ..... - --- 1 2 3 4 5 Aodbl'a Pradesh £ 182.2 463.9 645.8 .. Assam 71.9 37.S 109.4 Bihar IS6.2 250.4 406.6 oujarat 73.7 898.9 25.1 997.7 755.5 ·2349.8 0.1 HaryaDa 3J05.4 Himacb.l Pradesb 5.6 12.5 18.1 J and K 46.2 32.S 78.7 Karnataka 96.4 64.3 17.7 178.4 Kerala 264.S 76.5 341.0 Madbya Pradoab 580.9 1056.5 7.0 1644.4 Mabal'ubtra 307.6 941.1 25.0 1273.7 Manipur 4.1 0.1 4.2 Mcahalaya 11.1 0.3 11.4 Naaaland 4.7 Nea 4.7 Orissa 91.8 57.6 149.4 PUDjab 2273.2 7077.3 0.1 9350.6 Rajutbao 58.6 1392.5 1451.1 267 Wrif(el1 Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written A,,~'Wers 268 1 2 3 4 ------_.. _-- ..... _"---_.-.. _._.....,_- L..______, ..... ~ _ _.,~ ... ,.... __ -- -_.. - .• ,,"' ___ _ Sikkim 1.8 1.8 Tamil Nadu 665.6 36ft.' 1034.3 Tripura , 33.1 3.1 36.2 Uttar Pradesh 531.1 1645.2 0.3 2176.6 West Bengal 386.4 92.6 479.0 A and N Islands 2.9 2.9 5.8 Arunacbal Prade&b 4.0 0.4 4.4 Cbandigarb 0.7 1.1 1.8 o and N HaveH 0.2 Neg 0.2 Delhi 46.9 109.2 156.1 Goa, Daman and Diu 5.4 3.8 9.2 Lakshdweep Mizoram 1.5 0.6 2.1 Poodicbetry 1.9 0.2 2.-1 ---. -_._------Total 6665.7 16939.2 75.3 23680.2 ------~------_.. _. _., Neg = Below 50 tonnes. £ c= Excludes 256.3 thousand tonnes of rice 81 on 1.9.86 purchased by APCSC at negotiated prices. Natbpa Jhakrl Hydro-Electric Project THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE In Himacbal Pradesb DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI 201. SHRI BIRINDER SINGH : Will SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) to (c). The ex the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to ecution of the Nathpa Jhakri Hydro-Electric state : PE~ject in Himachal Pradesh (1500 MW) is being considered as a joint venture of the Governments of India and Himachal (a) the details of execution of Nathpa Pradesh. Tbe benefits from the project Jhakri Hydro-Electric project proposed to would be shared in proportion to the be built in Himachal Pradesh; investment. (b) tbe share of each State in respect of ioveitments to be made and drawal of Distribution and Pricing of J\.lolasses electricity generated from the project; and and Industrial Alcobol 202. SHRI YASHWANTRAO (c) wbich State is to undertake the GADAKH PATIL: Will tbe Minister of construction of tbe project? INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : 269 Written Am'wcrs ,KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 270 (a) whetber Government propose to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE evolve a national policy for distribution and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pricing of molasses and industrial alcohol; (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : Ca) Yes Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) The discussions were purely of an e'xploratory nature. At the request of tbe (c) if not, the reasons therefor? visifins dolegations t the Department of Telecommllnications briefly explained the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE developments that have taken place since DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND Independence and tbe broad outlined of the PETRO·CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY 7th Plan in the field of Telecommunications. OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAI. The brodd procedures including tbe use of CHANDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). Tbe competitive biddings for purchase of matter is under active consideration of eQuipments etc. were also explained. Governmen f. The visiting delegation briefly described (c) Does not arise. tbe range of equipment~ and services available from U.S. sources. Knowhow in Power Sedor offered by Ca nadian Firms There were no specific agreements etc. either proposed or signed. 203. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH PATIL: WiJI tbe Minister of [Translation] ENERG Y be pleased to state : Merger of Instrumentation Ltd. (a) whether any Canadian firms have with DHEL offered knowhow in the power sector; and 205. SHRI SHANT) DHARIWAL: (b) if so, the details thereof and the Will the Minister of INDUSTRV be pleased decision taken thereon? to state: (a) whether Government have received THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE any memorandum against making Instrumentation Limited, Kota a subsidjary MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI of Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited; SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (8) and (b). Besides proposal for taking up some power (b) if so, the details thereof; 8Qd projects witb bilateral assistance, Canadians have offered technical collaboration for design and manufacture of Francis type (c) the action taken thereon? turbines and Sinsle Phase System. No decision has been taken. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Telecommunications Mission from USA DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF lNDUSTRY (SHRJ M. ARUNA 204. SHRI YASHWANTRAO CHALAM) : (a) to (c). There bave been OADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of representations from various Associations COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: of Employees of InstrumentatioDs Limited, supporting and protesting aaainst tbe merger (a) whether a telecommunications of Instrumentations Limited with DUEL. milsioD from USA visited India in Septem There is no proposal under consideration bert 1986; aod of the Government to merge Instrumentation Limited with BHEL. There is a proposal for (b) if so, the outcome of the discussions making Instrum~ntation Limited a subsidiary bold? of BHEL with a view to achieving integrated 211 Written Answers NOvaMBBR 4, 1986 Written Answers 272 deveJopment of both the public sector units. Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY bo pJ.ued Due consideration will be given to tbe to state : representations while takins a final decision. (a) whether bia businoss bouses bave (Englllhl been asked to up,,_. the quality of tboir products and introduce efficiency comparable . Short Measurloll of Petrol/Diesel to international standards; and 206. SHRI K.AMLA PRASAD SINGH: (b) if so, the steps Government propose Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND to take to cnsure ·tbe Bame ? NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (a) whether attetion of Government bas DEPARTMENT OF 1NDUSTRIAL been drawn to tbe -news item captioned "tbe· DEVELOPMENT IN THE· MINISTRY pinching petrol-pumps" appearing in the OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA Hindustan Times of 21st September t 1986 CHALAM): (a) and (b). Governmcnt according to wbich petro) pumps are cheating . have been stressing tbe need for upgrading people by sbort measuring of petrol; the quality of products by all industrial (b) if so, the Dumber of petrol pumps undertakings in large, medium and small in Delhi checked during the last six months scale sectors. To spread tbe concept of quality maintenance and to inculcate a sense and whetber the petrol ~ending macbines were manipulated to cheat the vehicle owners of quality awareness in tbe minds of both by giving short measured petrol/diesel; producers and consumers. tbe month of . November. 1986 is being observed as "Quality (c) the details thereof as also the details Maintenance and Improvement MODth." of action taken ap.inst those found guilty of During tbis month, a special campaign to short-measuring oil to public; and achieve biaher standards of quality, pro ductivity and CODsumer service by all (d) whether there is any proposal to industrial undertakings, big or sman, is beinl have a new leaislation on the subject, scrapp .. organised throughout tbe country. ina the Rajasthan Weights and Measures Act, 1958, as extended to Delhi? Transmission and Distribution LOlle. (a) whether it is a fact tbat special Year Quantity of levy sugar tele1)boncs are in use in most deve}oped allotted to Andbra countries to belp the deaf; and Pradesh (Toones) (b) if 80. wbetber such telephones are made available in India, State-wise 1984 2,92,165.0 breakup? 1985 3,07,529.0 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 1986 2,47.952.0 (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) Yes, Sir. ( upto October. 86) ------~-~-- ..... --.....---~-. - ~------ (b) Yes, Sir. About 2,000 such (c) No, Sir. telephones are being made availabJe to Indian users every year. State-wise break-up (d) Does' not arise. is Dot available. Pillding ApplicatioDs for Telephone Quota of Levy Sugar to Andbra Pradesh Connections in Tricbur District of Kerala 210. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES 211. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : Will the be pleased to state : Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (a) the total quantity of levy sugar released by Food Corporation of India from (a) tbe total number of applications for tbe Central Pool in 1984, 1985 and 1986; telephone connections pending in tbe Tricbur District of Kerala as on date; (b) the allocation of levy sugar made to Andbra Pradesh during tbese years; (b) the period of pendency; and (c) how long it will take to clear tbeso (c) wbether there is ao'y proposal to applications? increase the quota of levy sugar to Andbra Pradesh from Central pool; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (d) if 80, tbe details thereof? (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Tbe total number of applications pending THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for telephone connections as on 30-9-86 i MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL lOS 19. SUPPLIES (SHR'1 GHULAM NABI AZAD) : (a) aQd (b). FCI is arranging (b) The earliest application is pendinl mowmeot and delivery of allotted levy supr since 1978. ill respect of 13 States and remaining',9 State GoYornments includins Andbra (c) The prescot waitina list is likely fO Pradesh are themselves arrangin. lifting of be cleared during the 7th Plan, subject to allotted levy BUIlt from tbe factories. availability of resources. 27S Written Answers NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Written An,s'wers 276 Demand of Cooking Gas in Malabar Demand and Supply of Foodgraios etc. Region of Kerale to States 213. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: 212. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : Will the Will the Miilister of FOOD AND CIVIL Minister of PETROLEPM AND SUPPLIES be pleased to state: NA TURAL GAS be pleased to state : (a) the quantum of foodgrains t foodstuff. (a) whether there is an increase in the edible oil and kersoene oil supplied to demand for cooking gas in Malabar region various States this year upto date. State .. of Kerala; wise and item-wise; (b) tbe total number of connections (b) the demands for those articles placed by tbe State.. given so far in this region; and State Governments, wise and item-wise; and (c) by what time tbe demand is going (c) whether the gap between demllnd to be fuBy met ? and supply is proposed to be fiUed during remaining months of the year? ' THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVJL NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI DUTT) : (a) Yes. Sir. AZAD) : (a) aneJ (b). Two statements indicating the demands and allotments of (b) The number of LPG (domestic) rice, wheat, imported edible oils, levy sugar connections in Kerala. including MaJabar and kerosene during 1986 are given below. reaion 3S. on April 1, 1986 was around 3.02,220. (c) The allocation of foodgrains, imported edible oils and kerosene is made keeping in view the overall availability of (c) Enrolment and release of new LPG stocks in the Central pool. relative needs of connections is a c:ountinous process and is various States and other related factors. made under the annual enroiement pro The public distribution system is not meant gramme of the oil industry, determined by to catef to the entire requirements of the augmentation in th{~ availability of LPG, consumers but is intended to supplement bottling capacity, transportation arrange tbe free-market availability of essential ments and other infrastructure. commodities. Statement-I ------~------Stat~ / U.T .. Rice Wheat Damand Allotment Demand Allotment (Jan. to Nov., 1986) (Jan. to Nov., 1986) ('000 tonnes) ('000 tonnes) --- - ~---- -. -~'" -- ... ..---..-.-.---__...-----~-- ---~ -----...... - ._._...... _- ,,_ .. - ..... ,,----~--... ------~---.. -- ..------' 1 2 3 4 s I. Andhra Pradesh 1510.0 1100.0 231.0 231.0 2. Assam 638.0 498.0 388.3 400.4 3. Bihar 550,.0 215.0 1100.0 792.0 17' W,tlten A.nswers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answe,s 2'. ~ 1 2 3 4 5 4. Gujarat 310.0 270.0 '45.0 460.0' S. Haryana 38.S 38.5 285.1 332.0 ..."oto' ..• 6. Himachal Pradesh 102.3 71.S 5S.0 '5,0 7. Jammu and Kashmir 181.5 204.0 99.0 132.0 8. Karnataka 590.0 535.0 16S~O 275.0 9. Kerala 1700.0 1510.0 370.0 385.0 10. Madbya Pradesh 345.0 275,0 490.0 550.0 11. Maharasbtra 825.0 610.0 660.0 660.0 12. Manipnr 51.0 48.5 25.0 22.0 13. Meghalaya 101.2 93.5 16.5 23.1 14. Nagaland 76.0 62.0 39.0 39.0 15. Orissa 210.0 168.0 254.0 253.0 16. Punjab 19.2 18.6 144.0 165.0 17. Raja~than 22.0 22.0 660.0 630.0 18. Sikkirn 47.0 47.0 2.8 2.8 19. Tamil Nadu 1100.0 650.0 330.0 330.0 20. Tripura 150.0 138.u 5.5 27.5 21. Uttar Pradesh 660.0 550.0 495.0 495.0 22. \\'est Bengal 1650.0 1375.0 1430.0 1386.0 23. A and N Islands 12.0 12.0 8.4 8.4 24. Arunachal Pradesh 52.1 57.0 9.8 15.4 25. Chandigarh 5 5 4.0 19.8 19.8 26. D and N Haveli 1.5 1.5 0.5 0.5 27. Delhi 365.0 275.0 550.0 534.0 28. Ooa. Daman and Diu 49.5 49.5 16.5 2.5.3 29. Lashadweep 5.5 5.5 0.1 0.1 10. Mizoram 88.0 73.0 11.5 11.5 31. Pond icherry 24.2 23.7 3.3 2.9 ...... ,_ --_ _-_ - .. ------.~------~--.--...... ----- ,...... _ , Total 1.1480.0 9052.7 8410.0 8263.6' 279 Written Answers NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Written Answers 280 StatelDent.. }1 State/U.T. Edible Oil Suaar Kerosene Demand Allotment Allotment Allotment (Nov. 85 to (Jan. to ' (Jao. to Oct. 86) (Oct. 86) Nov. 86) ('000 toones) ('000 tonnea) (tOOo tODoes) 1 2 3 4 S -_- 1. Aodhra Pradesb 195.0 92.4 247'.9 418.3 2. Assam 3.6 2.4 94.8 187.7 3. Bibar 30.0 6.S 325.8 323.6 4. Gujarat 136.8 121.2 158.5 548.3 s. HarYlna 28.8 8.0 60.2 110.5 6. Himacbal Pradesh 24.0 9.3 19.8 25.3 7. Jammu and Kashmir 6.0 4.4 27.6 460 8. Karnataka 65.0 41.5 173.8 324.4 9. Ketala 120.0 2t7 115.8 181.5 10. Madbya Pradesh 62.0 20.2 240.2 267.0 11. Mabarasbtra 230.0 126.4 288.9 1043.0 12. Manipur 5.7 5.S 6.6 14.3 13. Megbolaya 7.2 4.0 6.3 11.6 14. Naaaland 12.0 4.8 4.0 7.0 IS. Orissa 28.8 J6.9 119.5 109.9 16. Punjab 19.2 13.9 78.2 225.5 17. Rajasthao 30.0 S.2 163.4 177.0 18. Sikklm 4.8 2.0 1.6 4.9 19. Tamil Nadu 132.0 48.7 219.6 462.6 20. Tripura 4.8 12.' 9.9 17.5 21. U Uar Pradesh Ij.6 12.5 ' 520.8 631.3 ~~. West ~o~l ,~~.~ ~02.Q ~S2c~ ~31.7 · 281' Written Answers Written Answers 28~ I ·2 3 23. A an~ N Islands 0.6 0.4 2.2 2.7 24. Arunachal Pradesh 0.3 0.4 3.0 6.S 25. Cbandigarb 0.7 0.7 3.4 14.6 26. D and N Havell 0.6 O.S P.' 2.1 27. Delbi 30.0 16.5 70.7 166.8 28. Goa, Daman and Diu 7.2 4.3 4.9 21.2 I 29. Laksbadweep 0.2 0.2 0.7 0.6 30. Mizoram 3.0 2.S 2.S 4.S 31. Pondicberry 6.0 4.4 2.8 10.6 Total 1439.2 702.9 3226.1 5898.6 Supply of LPG Cylinder. In Welt Bengal SettIng up of Para.. Xylene Plaot by Private Indu.trlal Hou.e 214. SHR] HANNAN MOLLAH: Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND 215. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will tbe NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (a) whether Government of West Bengal bas requested for additional LPG cylinders (a) whether it is a fact tbat some private for consumers of tbe State; industrial house is setting up a plant to produce Para-xylene witbout obtainina (b) if so, tbe quantity demanded; and industrial licence and MRTP clearance; (c) tbe steps Government bave taken in (b) whether a letter of intent was issued this reaard 1 to this concern to make purified terepbtbalic acid from Para-xylene; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (c) whether permission was sranted NATURAL GAS (SURI BRAHMA within a short time for import of Capital DUTT): (a) Yes, Sir. Goods and to tie up foreign collaboration for other units also to make Para-xyJene and Benzene in a particular case; (b) 60,000 cylinders. (d) if so, tbe circumstances under Which (c) Apart from resolution of tbe permission was granted; and Industrial Rolations Problems at Kalyani (Ca:lcutta) Bottling Plant, additional (e) whether Bbarat Petroleum Corpora supplies to tbe State are beina tion Ltd. in public sector was waiting (or made from other sources to .tbe extent industrial licence for four years for the same possible. Also substantial adboc allocation purpose. and if so. tbe reaSODS for sbowiD, of kerosene was made ror Oetobcr. 1986. favour to tbe private sector? 283 W, itten Answers NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Written Answers 284 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Steps to increase coal production include DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND opening of new mines, infrastructure of PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY I better tecbologies, development of infrasture Of INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA faciJitics, better utilisation of machinery and SINOH) : (a) and (b). An Indust~ial Licence improvement in management. Iftld labour bas been issued to a private sector unit for relatioDs etc. m'Ulu(acture of Purified Terepbtbalic Acid (PTA). Para.xylenq, is an intermediate fO.r Measures taken to stabilise prices of manufacture of PTA.' N J separate industrial essential commodities licence is required to manufacture of para xylene as it is for captive consumption. 217. SHRI V. SOBHANA .. However, the unit obtained MR TP clearance DREESWARA RAO: from tbe point of investment for manufac SHRI SHRIHARI RAO : ture of' Para-xylene for captive consumption. SHRI VJJAY N. PATIL ; SHR) MAHENDRA SINGH: (c) and' (d). Approvals for import of Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CJVJL capital goods and for foreign collaboration SUPPLIES be pleased to state: for manufacture of para-xylene for captive consumption were given in accordance (a) whether the utaH prices of the witb the procedure prevalent at tb,at time. essential commodities have gone up since the presentation of . the Fourth Pay (e) Mis. Bbarat Petroleum Corporation Commission Report for tbe Central Govern Ltd. submitted proposals for manufacture of ment employees; and Benzene, Tolueno and Xylenes and they have 'been permiUed to undertake (b) if so, the details. in this reaard and manufacture of Benzene and Toluene the measures taken by Government to for the present. stabilise tbe prices of the essential commodities? Coal Output THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB 216. SHRI OURUDAS KAMAT: MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL tbe of Will Minister ENERGY be pleased SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM' NABI to state: AZAD) : (a) Retail prices of some items have increased. some have declined (a) whether coal output in India is far and some have remained steady in below the international standard; selected centres since the presentation of the Fourth Pay Commission Report for tbe (b) if so, tbe reasons therefor; and Central Government Employees in the last week of June, 1986. (c) tbe steps taken by Government to (b) A statement shows the retail priees or increase the coal output and to bring it at selected commodities at selected centres in par witb otber developing countries· in the the Jast week of June, 1986 and in the week. world? ending 9th October, 1986 is given below. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY The main thrust of Government policy SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) India is the in order to cbeck undue price risc is to sixth largest coal producing country in the increase tbe production of various essential world and is. by and large, able to meet the commodities, particularly tbose wbich arc requirements of its consuming sectors. in short supply. Imports of certain commodities like edible oils aDd keroseDO (b) and (e)1 From the present level of are made in order to aUlment domestic production of 154.24. m.t. (1985 ... 86) it is availability. Exports of several essential proposed to go up co 226 m.t. by tbe e.n~ commodities are either banned or reBulated. of the Seventh Plan to meet the growing Tb~ Public. Distribution System throup onergy needs of tbe country. which essentJa] commoditJes Ule food ....j .. ",. ,I ·itAlltlKA 13. 1908 (SAIC4) Written Answers 216 ,upr,_ imported edible oils etc. are supplied to time to keep a strict wa teb 'on the prica to common people, is beiDa streoatbeoed and availability of essential commoditiea and expaoded. Rice and wbeat are and to take prompt action Blainst those supplied at' cbeaper prices in the tribal who are indulging in malpractices by enrore areas and under National Rural Bmploy... iDa various provisions of the Essential ment Prolramme and Rural Landless Commodities Act and similar legislations Employment Guarantee Programme. The strictly. State Governments have been urged from time Statement Retail Prices of Selected Commodities at selected centres in ~he last week Qf JU.,e, 1986 and week ending 9.10.86 Commodity Unit Bombay Madras Delhi _ ....,'------Last week Week Last week Week Last Week of JUDe, ending of June, ending week of ending 1986 9.10,86 1986 9.10.86 June, 9.10.86 1986 . ~ .. -_ .. _- - -. ------_.'-- -'~' _, -.. _------.. ------..- 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 .... _ ••• __ ~~ _____'r _.__ .~ ____ .....~_ w, Rice (Coarse) Rs. per, kg. 4.00 4.00 3.40 3.60 4.50 4.50 Wheat ,. 2.50 2.60 2.60 2.50 2.30 2.30 Jowar n 2.70 2.60 2.00 . 2.10 2.50 2.50 3.30 3.30 2.10 2.00 2.60 2.80 Bajra " 3.00 N.Q. 2.80 2.80 2.60 2.tO Maize " 6.60 6.50 6.50 5.00 5.70 5.2.5 Gram " Arbor Dal 6,20 8.50 8.00 9.00 6.00 7.50 " 6.40 7.50 7.00 Moong Da) It 7.40 6.60 6.60 Masoor Dal 7.40 7.40 6.80 6.80 6.30 7.00 " Urad Dal 8.40 8.40 6.60 1.20 7.80 8.20 " Gram Dal 6.80 6.80 s.sn 5.50 6.00 5.70 " Groundnut Oil 18.00 27.00 20.00 25.00 22.00 N.A. " Ginaelly Oil 20.00 24.00 18.50 21.00 21.00 2400 " Mustard Oil 20.00 22.00 2(J.00 ,,3.00 16.00 19.00 It • ~ .,: '.. l' f . l87 Written Answers NOVEMBER. 4, 1986 Written Answers 28' 1 2 3 4 '1 8 Coconut Oil ,n 28.00 32.00 26.00 35.00 31.00 36.00 Vanaspati Rs. per kg. 21.00 21.00 21.~ 22.0 20.00 20.00 Sugar " 6.40 6.20 5.60 5.80 7.00 7.00 Common Salt t.00 1.00 0.60 " 0.60 0.60 0.60 Potatoes t, 4.00 4.50 4.50 3.00 4.00 5.00 Onions .. 1.50 3.00 1.50 2.30 1.20 3.50 Milk (Buffalo) Rs. per litre, 7.50 7.50 S.OO 5.00 5,00 .. 5.00 Mutton Rs. per kg. 30.00 30.00 34.00 34.00 28.00 28.00 Red Chillies ,. 12.00 12.00 10.00 8.50 22.00 18.00 Loog Cloth Rs. per metre 12.50 12.00 10.40 10.40 N.Q. 15.65 ".- , ._- ,.--... _--_, -----,'---~~~- .--- . . .,. - -, .. _- - ~--- N.Q.-Not Quoted. N.A.-Not available. Bilateral Assistance ror Talcher Super MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Thermal Power Project SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir; the project proposal is under appraisal 218. SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Will with the World Bank for financial the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to assistance. state: (c) and (d). Apart from the projects (a) whether the National Thermal whicb are already approved for execution by Power Corporation is exploring the the National Therma) Power Corporation possibility of bilateral foreign assistance for (NTPC), the Corporation proposes to take the proposed Talcher Super Thermal Power up expansion of existing/approved projects Project; and setting up of new projects for benefits during the Eighth Plan period. The (b) whether the World Bank has also possibility of funding these projects throuah approached for financial assistance and if external sources to the extent necessary so, the outcome thereof; would be explored after their feasibility is establisbed. (c) whether despite serious financial constraints. tbe corporation has decided to take up more projects in tbe Seventh Five De-reservation of Zip Fasteners Indu8try Year I)ian; and 219. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased (d) wbether any external financial to state: sources have been found for financing these projects 1 (8) whether attention of Government has been drawn to the news- item captioned THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE "SO p,c. Zip fasteners imported iIlesally" DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE appearing in Hindustan Times of 26 AUlult. 289 , Writte~ Answers KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 290 1986 accordinl to wbich a study prepared DEVELOPMENT IN THE M INISTR Y by DGTO has recommended for de OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. reservation of zip fasteners industry since CHALAM): (a) M/s Colgate Palmolive reserving, it for the small scale industry is (India) Limited have recently started only leading to outgo of precious foreign marketing in Delhi FJouriguard toothpaste exchange for imports;, aod J S gram packs a Iso. There is' no 'I information as to whether supply of tooth (b) if ~o, whether Government have paste and tooth powder bas been augmented taken a decision in the matter; and in Delhi. (c) the number of other industries in (b) No, Sir. tbe smaH scale identified which lead to outgo of foreign excba~ge ? Supply of Wheat to Licensed Flour Mills by Fer THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE 221. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (a) Government has seen tbe report. (b) With effect from 30th May, 1986, (a) the total quantity of wheat sold by tbe industry "Zip Fasteners-Metallic and tbe Food Corporation of India to tbe Non-metallic in the case of integrated plants licensed flour mills during the years 1983-84, manufacturing aJI components" bas been 1984-85, ]985·86 and total amount realised taken out of the purview of reservation for from them, State-wise; small scale sector. However, tbis notification bas b~en challenged in the HiSh Court of (b) whether Food Corporation of India Bombay and the matter is sub judice. is still selling whea t to flour mills and if so , tbe price at wbich wheat is being sold (c) Outao of foreign exchange is not to them; dependent on whether the particular indusrrial activity is reserved for sman scale (c) whether any ceiling on quantity has sector or otherwise. It depends on the been fixed within which a flour miJI could nature and scope of the industrial activity, purchase wheat from FCI or any guidelines indigenous availability of the required raw have been prescribed for the Fel in this materials/components, etc. regard; and Increase in Ceiling on Production Limit (d) if so, the details thereof? or Colgate Toothpaste and Powder 220. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL to state: SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD) : ,(c).and (d). There i,:now DO cellini 00 tbe roller flour mills 'rom tbe Corporation. tbe qnantities whicb can be purcbased by State .. tDt Quantity olwheat .old by the Food Corporallon o/lndla to the /lc~",ed '01111' /luor milll and amount reQII~ed from them Ilalewl,~ during tht year.' 1983.84. 1984-85 a"d 1985.86 S.No. Name of the State/ 1983-84 1984·8S 1985·86 U.Ts Quantity Amount Quantity Amount Quantity Amount M~Ts. realised M.Ts. realised M.Ts. realised RS./ Rs./ Rs./ Lakbs Lakhs Lakbs 1 2 j 4 5 6 7 8 .. _-_._----- 1. Andbra' Pradesh 94732 1943.26 170164 2992.44 328721 5778.85 2. Assam 116803 2200.15 130560 2363.29 144414 3875.47 3. Bihar 171326 3520.14 231145 4011.61 370283 6522.54 4. Delhi 265778 5492.81 280243 5033.10 359946 6331.49 S. Gujarat 82666 1704.55 154264 2767.40 250091 4390.47 6. Haryana 38401 783.43 59148 1021.66 101967 1800.33 7. I Iimacbal Pradesh 12177 249.74 13165 227.56 27304 479.82 8. Jammu and Kashmir 75462 1561.74 106917 1923.40 137518 2418.29 9. Karnataka 265110 5476.53 347814 6349.03 484118 8485.36 10. Kerala 47303 977.63 68393 1249.35 97018 1689.65 11. Madhya Pradesh 41464 864.21 26089 589.38 59730 1060.59 12. Mabarallhtra 391482 8118.76 497633 8914.31 755987 13274.18 13. Orissa 70643 1455.50 111525 1941.69 214362 3755.99 14. Punjab 41846 842.65 94491 1544.74 193389 3456.51 15. Rajasthan 9465 1.93.55 21398 37692 33238 582.03 16. Tamil Nadu 398805 8280.38 572702 10465.59 697508 12243.88 17. U ttae Pradesh 179361 3673.65 316818 5570.52 623789 10996.04 18. West Bengal 403574 8349.10 436743 7836.51 583310 10229.79 19. N.E.F. (Megbalaya, 28285 586.25 36803 656.01 49619 863.J6 Nagaland. Tripura, --Manipur. Mizoram) Total 2734683 56284.03 3676015 65834.51 5512312 98234.44 ....,._-...... - ...... ----.---- .... ~--.... ~--- ~-~.- .--_ .---- .. ~.~ .... --~-.---.. 293 Papers Laid KARTIKA J3. 1908 (SAKA) Papers Laid 294 12.00 bra. 7th September, 1986, under article 356 (3) of tb~ (English] Constitution tOlcther with a corrigendum thereto. MR. SPEAKER: One minute Professor Sahib. One minute please. (Interruptions). (ii) A copy of the. Order (Hindi I am asking for ODe minute. (Intel ruptions) and English versions) dated I will listen to you. . With your permission tbe 7tb September, 1986 made I will take one minute to dispose of Papers by the President in pursuance to be Laid On the Table as some of tbe of sub-clause (j) of clause (c) Ministers have to go to the other House. of tbe above Proclamation. publisbed in Notification No. O.S.R. 1062 (E) in Gazette of India dated tbe 7th 12.01 bra. September, 1986 together with a corrigendum thereto. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (3) A copy of the Report (Hindi and [English] English versions) dated the 3rd Septem ber, t 986 of the Governor Proclamation by the Governor of Jammu of Jammu and Kashmir. aod Kashmir under section 92 or th.e [Placed In Library. See No. Constitution of Jammu and Kasbmir, LT.. 3120/86] proclamation by tbe president uoder article 356 of tbe Constitution in Coal Mines Nationalisation Laws relation to the State of Jammu and (Amendment) Ordinance, 1986 Kasbmi r t Order by tbe President in pursuance of sub clause (i) of clause THE MINISTER ,OF PARLIA .. (c) of the said Proclamation and MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER Report of Governor of Jammu and OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI Kashmir H.K.L. BHAOAT) : I beg to Jay on the Table a copy of the Coal Mines THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Nationalisation Laws (Amendment) (5. BUTA SINGH) : I beg to lay on the Ordinance, 1986 (No.7 of 1986) (Hindi and Table: English versions) promulgated by the President on the 7th October, 1986. under (1) A copy of tbe Proclamation (Hindi article 123 (2) (a) of the Constitution. and English versions) dated the [Placed In Library. See No. LT-3121/86] 7th March, 1986 issued by the Governor of Jammu and Kashmir Notification UDder Oilfields (Regulation under section 92 of tbe Constitution and Development) Act, 1948 of Jammu and Kashmir in relation to tbe State of Jammu and MINISTER OF STATE OF Kashmir published in Jammu and THE THE Kashmir Gazette dated the 7th MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND March, 1986. NATUR-,L GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy (2) (i) A copy of the Proclamation each of tbe following Notifications (Hindi (Hindi and English versions) and English versions) under" section 10 of dated the 7th September, the OilfieJds (Regulation and Development) 1986 issued by the President Act. 1'948 : under article 356 of tbe Constitution in relation to (1 ) Tbe Petroleum and Natural Gas the . State of. Jammu and (Amendment) ltules, 1986 Kashmir published in Notifi published in Notification No. cation No. G.S.R. 1061 (E) G.S.R. 1034 (E) in G:.zette of in Oezette of India dated tbe India dated the 25th AUJust. 1986. 295 Papers Laid NOVEMBER. 4, 1986. Sales Promotion Employees 296 (i) The Central Civil Services 12.02 brs. (Revised Pay) Rules, 1986 publisbed in Notification No. SALES PROMOTION EMPLOYEES G.S.R. 1080 (B) in Gazet~e (CONDITJONS OF SERVICE) . of India dated the 13th AMENDMENT BILL, 1986 September, 1986. (English] (ii) The Central Civil Services (Revised Pay) Amendment . SECRETARY ·GENERAL : Sir, I Jay Rules. 1986 publi~hed in on the Table the Sales Promotion Employees Notification No. G.S R. 1105 (Conditions of Service) Amendment Bill. (E) in qazette of India dated 1986, whicb has been returned by Rajya the 2nd September. 1986. Sablla with amendments. (Placed in Library. See No. LT.. 3113/86] , (2) A copy of tbe Resolution No. 14 (lnterruplionl) (l)/IC/86 . (Hindi and Bnglish versions) published in Gazette of MR. SPEAKER; Madhavji. India dated tbe J3th September. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB J986 regarding acceptance of (Rajapur): I have notice of an certain recommendations of tbe aiven Fourth Central Pay Commi.sion adjournment in regard to the total failuro by tbe Government. of tbe security arrangements on 2nd. October. [Placed In Library. See No. LTw3124/86] tAR. SPI:!AKER I have caned (3) A copy of the Report of tbe Madhavji. • The EnaHsb version was laid OD the Table 00 18th July, 1986. 297 Sale~ Promotion Employee.'i KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Amdt. Bill, 1986 298 (Conditiolls of Service) SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI (Adila [ TranI I allon] bad): I have given notice of an adjourn ment motion on the serious situation arising MR. SPEAKER: You may please live out of tbe lapse in security arrangements on notice. 2nd October. It is a very serious matter. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I have received Jots [English) of notices. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat): SHRI C. MADHA V REDO): What is As you know, this incident has shown that your decision 1 the wbole security system is rotten. Have we not to discuss it? MR. SPEAKER : My decision will just be communicated to you. (Interruptions). [ Tranllatlon] SHRI C. MADHAV REDD!': Let tbis MR. SPEAKER: Please resume your House be adjourned bec~use it is a very seat. serious matter. (lnt~rruPtlon,t) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : If [English] the total security lapse on 2nd October threat ending the life of the President and DR. DATTA SAM ANT (Bombay South the Prime Minister is not a fit case for Centra)) : I have given a Calling Attention adjournment motion, nothing in the world notice. can be a fit case for adjournment motion. MR. SPEAKER: Tbis is' not a Calling [Translation] Attention Session. Dr. Samant, will you please listen to me ? You can come to me. SHRI HARISH RAW AT (Almora) : Mr. Speaker. Sir, junior engineers, DR. DATTA SAM ANT : It is a very technicians of tbe Tele-Communication important issue. Department ... MR. SPEAKER: This is a bad habit MR. SPEAKER: Please give notice. on your part. Wben I am saying some thing you do not listen to me. When I am (Interruptions) on my legs you must sit down. MR. SPEAKER: Please give notice. I win tell you one thing. SHRI HARISH RA WAT : I ba'{e We had a discussion. All the important already given. members of tbis House have met and discussed. You please take it for granted (Interrupt/on, ) from me that each and every subject which you have given to me, we will discuss one MR. SPEAKER : I will look into tbat. by one. You need not worry. You can (/nterrupJlons) convey your feelings to me. In tbe time available we will discuss one by one. (Engll.sh] Because of shortage of time it may be lef.; otherwise not. SHRI SUNIL DUTT (Bombay North West): All over India the cinema houses Do not worry, I will take them one by are empty because of video piracy and high one. At one stroke I cannot take it. 1 am rate of entertainment-tax. People have taking something to-day and the rest I am started socing blue films because of the leaving for other days. closure of tbe cinema houses aU over India. (Interruptions) 29~ "NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Adjournment Motion 300 11.05 brs. Dandavate has secured the first place in the baUot. I t reads as uDder : ADJOURNMENT MOTION "The failure of tbe Government to ensure strict security arrangements at tbe Rajabat on 2nd October J986, Secorlty Lapses at RaJahat on 2nd leading to tbe unsuccessful att~mpt to October, 1986 assassinate the President, the Prime 1:. Minister and others." MR. SPEAKER: I have to inform the House tbat I have received 17 notices of I give my consent to the movio. of tbe Adjournment Motion regarding serious motion. lapses of security arrangement on 2nd Prof. may for October, 1986, at Rajghat from the Madbu Dandavate ask leave of the House. following Members : PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE 1. Prof. Madhu Dandavate (Rajapur): I seek leave of tbe House to move the adjournment motion regarding tbe 2. Sbri Saifuddin Choudhury total collapse of security arrangement at Rajgha t on 2nd October, 1986. 3. Shri Balwant Singh Ramoowalia MR. SPEAKER: Is the leave opposed? 4. Shri Dincsh Goswami SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: No. 5. Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Deo SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA 6. Shr i Basudeb Acharia RAO (Vijayawada) : Sir, we have given adjournment motion regarding the Central 7. Shri Amal Datta assistance to Andhra Pradesh to meet the I. Shri Arnar Roy Pradhan situation caused by floods. (/nltrruptionl) 9. Shri Hannan Mollah MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Rao, there is 10. Sbri Iodrajit Gupta only one thina that can be taken up now. Wbatever other subjects are, I have already Shrimati Oeeta Mukherjee exp1ained to you that they can be taken one Shri Narayan Choubey by one and separately. So, one qy one we will take them. I have bad tbe priority liven Sbri Vijay Kumar Yadav to me by all my colleaguts in this House and we shall discuss them one by one if 11. Sbri Baju Ban Riyan they are in tbat order. So, don·t worry about that and we sbould see whatever 12. Sbri Anil Basu comes in that way. The Business Advisory Committee will meet and we sball discuss 13. Dr. Sudhir Roy all these points. I· think you better be prepared to put in the best after preparing 14. Shri S. Ja~pal Reddy briefs. And let us come out with some concrete things so that we can have a good 15. Shri Mabfooz Ali Khan debate in the House. 16. Sbri C. Madbav Reddi So. tbose in favour may please stand. 17. S~i Suresh Kurup PROF. MAOHU DANDAVATE: No- The notice given by Prof. Madhu body bas opposed the leave. 301 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 302 SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM convention in tbe House is that the adjourn (Salem) : Let it be discussed. ment motioD abQuld get tbe preference. PROF. P.l. KURIEN (Idukki): Sir, let MR. SPEAKER:' We have siwn tbe . it be discussed. preference. All right. Okay tbon. Now, Prof. Madhu Dandavate. ~ MR. SPBAKER : Those in favour of leavo bein8 granted may rise in tbeir places- Time allotted is about 2j hours. Tbat is the norm. They are more than 50. So, the leave is araDted. PROF. ~ADHU DANDAVATE: All riabt. Let us see as the discussion pro THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- ceeds. MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI MR. SPEAKER Please' be brief to H.K.L. BHAOAT) : Sir, I want to make a the points. submission. If you agree and the House agrees, I bave a proposal that once you bave PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. admitted tbe adjournment motion and Speaker, Sir, I beg to move: sufficient number have got up in strengtb, this may be taken up immediately. "That the House do now adjourn". MR. SPEAKER: All right, no problem. As I pointed out to you that if there is any case in our parliamentary history which Gentlemen, I have given my consent to is a fit case for admission as an adjournment tbis adjournment motion thinking that our motion, tbis is one such case and, Sir, I am security and tbe safety, of this country are glade that you gave the consent and directed tbe uppermost in everybody's mind and I me to seek tbe leave of the House. It is hope that stays there because it is the need very clear that the issues tbat are involved of the hour. The nation is going through in the adjournment-motion are of a far some sort of a trauma, One thing, J want wider significance and therefore need to be to just 'request you or imp)ore you, because discussed comprehensively. I was very time and again I am saying this thiog that happy to find that the Minister of until and unless we do something to Parliamentary Affairs felt the urgency of eradicate this cancer which has ge'oerated this problem as much as ourselve..q so that this sort of thing, tbis communalism, we be himself came forward with a very must do something positive from all sides constructive suggestion that the discussion of this House. That is all I want to say to of the adjournment-motion should begin you, and nothing should be left because it is here and now. I welcome that suggestion. not the Prime Minister alone. it is the That only drives home to the country how safcty of the wbole country, it seriously tbis House takes the problem of is the safety of the institution, what happend on the 2nd of October, it is the safcty of the whole nation 1986. which is at stake. That is what we want, and after some preliminaries I will ask you While referring to the ineidcnt of 2nd to proceed on witb tbis. October, 1986 at Rajghat, I would like to bring to your notice very briefly the situa I want Mr. Home Minister to do tion of tbe entire Rajghat. (Interruptions) whatever is possible to safeguard the intelrity and safety of this nation and the MR. SPEAKER : Order, ,please. If lives of our people. somebody wants to talk, please so out and (Interruptions) talk, in tbe Lobby. not beret MR. SPEAKER: There is onc B ill to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I be introduced. was just pointing out to you tbat in ttie h' beginning, we must try to find out what PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE The exactly was the situation in the location of 303 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Adjournment Motion 304 (Prof. Madbu Dandavate) I will just give an analogy. On 2nd O~tober. after this incident, Prime Minister Rajghat and what are exactly tbe security flew to Nagpur. Fortunately, J happened requirements when Prime Minister or to be in Nagpur the same day in connection Prcsident or for that matter anyone who with Gandhi Jayanti celebrations. I bas respect for Mahatma Gandhi goes on myself bave seen tbe security arrangements tbe oocassion of 2nd Octobcr to pay tbat were made there. But. Prime Minister homlae to the memory of Mahatma bad gone for two major functions, one Oandhi. If you have seen the entire function connected with the school and procinctl of Rajgbat and you have been second was the platinum jubilee of a vi,hin& a.jgbat year after year you will well·known newspaper in Nagpur. You find tbat almost the entire Rajgbat is will be surprised to know that the panda] lurrounded by some sort of hilly tract had a number of houses SUrf~uoding it and around it. But you will find as far as the in every house which was in the neighbour Inner pJrtion of tbe Rajghat is concerned, ing locality of the panda), the security men it is almost kept as a plan green plateau had given identity card to each family and there is only one structure which is an member. each one of them. Not only that. elevated structure. It is surrounded by But a bit prior to the arrival of the Prime trees and bushes. It is the common sense Minister in Nagpur. they had taken down tbat tells you if anyone wants to hide at in writing the information whether in these tbis Rajgbat Maidan,. the only place two or three days, any guest is likely to available for biding will be the small vis;.t your bouse. That was the extent of .tructure which bas been surrounded by precaution that was taken by the security trees aud bushes. Now, the common sense men when the Prime Minister visited which was possessed by the person wbo Nagpur. tried to -play the mischief, unfortunately those who were in-charge of security lacked On a number of occasions we had tbat common sense. I must say that they invited VIPs for some of our functions, must be uncommon men in-charge of sometimes the President, sometimes the security arrangements. Vice-President, sometimes the Prime Minister and, on those occasions not onJy What exactly was the position?, As surrounding areas are checked but. some far as the firing is concerned, the firing was times if the security men are suspicious, tbey done from the the sma.ll structure which post the security guards on the terraces of was an elevated one. The fi rst round of the houses surrounding that particular place fire was shot and tben some of the persons of meeting. In addition to that, very often wbo were assembled over there-- even the a strict inspection of the platform and joumal~st. reported in the interview-when whether anything is there hidden below the tbey summoned the security mao, aod platform is checked UP. before the Prime 'asked them what is this big noise, they said. Minister or the President or the Vice ''Tbis is probably the back· fire of a President or the VIP visits that particular scooter." This is what the security men spot. We find that no such precaution was said. Of course, I do not expect every taken at all and~ to my mind, this was the security man to be expert on sound most elementary failure on the part of the analysis. But at the same time, if the security men who were posted there. . security arrangements are perfect and if a watch is kept on every corner whenever Who is in charge of tbe personal the Prime President or the Prime Minister security of the Prime Minister? A number goe, (or any important function, a number of artic1es have appeared. We have some of security men io plain dress go on information from the documents of tbe watching in different directions, keeping an Home Ministry and we find that as far as eyo in all the directions, if there is any the Prime Minister is concerned, there is a amoke, 0 r there is any noise or if there is special security guard ~roup that is, SPO. any commotion. immediately the security That 'Special Protection Group is supposed men rush to the spot any try to seve the to be in charge of the security of tbe Prime ahaltian. Minister. They are supposed to keep a lOS Adjourmnen t Motion KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Adjour1lment Motion 306 watch during the functions. They are many otber agencies. They are also in supposed to watch the situation prior to the charge of the security arrangement.. I arrival and after the Prime Minister or "'tbe would like to know (rom the hOD. Homo President actually leaves tbe site of the Minister, especially in tbe ligbt of some of function. Tbis is supposed to be their tho columns that have appeared in tbe Press duty. aod in tbe light of some of the interview. _" . tbat have appeared in the Press, whether You will be probably not surprised but tbere has been ,any conflicts between the you will be happy to know that this Group SPG machinery and other agencies which was given an extraordinary training and are also supposed to be in charge of tho even when there was an attack on Chile security arrangements and in charg. or President, some of the members of this investigations. I would like to know from Group-they consist of 1,500 jawans, if I him whether there bas been any conflict or mistake not and, of course, there are various clash between the illvestigating machinery gradations-but some of tllem actually and the SPG machinery. If it is so, whether studied when an attack was made on Cbile there were any issues on which some sort of President, what exactly happelled. what are differences have developed and as a result the precautions to be taken and they of that each one was trying to shirk the returned with lot of information regarding responsibility and put it on the shoulders of the security arrangement. the other. A'ready t news reports to that extent have appeared. Since the SPG is in sole charge, or major charge. cl-)arge of tbe security of the Sir, in Times (If India issue dated the Prime Minister and VIPs and the President. 22nd October 1986, Mr. L.P. Singh, who is I would like to know from the hon. Home welt-known to many members here, \\ ho Minister as to what exactly is the structure had. been concerned with the security of this. Who is suppused to be the sole arrangements for 24 years, has writtetl a monitor? Who is supposed to coordinate? very fine article in that paper. The title or Who is supposed to be in charge of the that article is: 'Concentration of Power : machinery tbat is supposed to coordinate Security risk for Prime Minister'. That is the security arrangements with other the title. He himself feels and let me sbare agencies which 8re also there to complement my experiences with some of the experts. and supplement the security arranaemeots? Many experts regarding security have been I think tbis will be a very crucial part and feeling that as far as the security is the Home Minister should take the entire concerned, the power must not be house into confidence and let us know what concentrated too much, There has to be nn exactly the structure of SPO is and whether apex. But at tbe same time, there has to there is any lacuna, whether there are be diffusion of power and responsibilities any failures; wbether anyone of them and wherever there has been excessive indirectly connived at the happening that concentration of power regarding the has taken place. I do not take it for security of the Prime Minister and for that granted. In fact, 1 assume that it must not matter any other VIP, you will find that in be forgotten. But, Sirt when incidents have a number of countries complications bave occurred, when the former Prime Minister taken place. A number of reports are was ki1led by her own security guards available. A number of experts of security themselves, I would like to know whether bave come to the conclusion that there mUf\t these organisations have been perfectly be fixing up of the final re~ponsibnity on insulated and what exactly is tbe structure; certain individuals at the top. Of course what is the division of power and the highest responsibility wilJ be that of tbe responsibility and who is sup,posed to be the Home Minister himself. I am sure that he sole monitor of monitoring the entire will not shirk it. He will try to express as security arrangements. to what exactly bas happened. Tbis partl.. cular aspect is extremely important. After this, I would Uke to know one thing from the hon. Home Minister. This I will quote one particular aspect. J is one major agency that is supposed to do not want to quote the article. I will protect tbe P.ime MiDiater and there are so give tbe substance of one point. I know 307 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Adjournment Motion 308 ., [Prof. Madbu Daadavate) important, whether the hundred uniforms of you are looking at your watch. Therefore. Black Cat Commandos wbicb bad been 1 would like to point out to you that in tbe missioa have .been traced and whether you very same article. Mr. L.P. Singh bas said: have been able to find out whicb are tbe 'it bas been widely talked about in elements behind it. -. dependable circles that even tbe signal about the assassination of the former Prime Repeatedly it has appeared in tbe press ··Miaister Mrs. Indira Gandbi was indicated.' that some elements, reliable elements, very Intenigence services bad already got some close to the Government, have indicated tbat sense and tbey bave smelled something of there was a foreign band and some have the type that is going on. It bas been said tbat this was also a plot of an extremist reported since it has appeared in a signed gang. I would like to have confirmation from article in tbe Times of India, written by him as it bas appeared in the press. Is it not a fact that the weapon witb which they Mr. L.P. Sinah. Tbat is tbe reason why I am sharing tbat witb you. It is not some tried to fire at tbe VIPs on 2nd ()etober market-place rumour. It is something that were country weapons? They were neither has been mentioned by a person who was sophisticated weapons nor sten guns. They concerned wltb the security for tbe last 24 were just country weapons. If foreign hand years. Therefore, I would like to know as and a gaog of experts were there behind to what has been the role of tbe Intelligence this attempt, I shudder to think what would in this particular case. Prior to the Prime have happened. Everywhere they had Minister visiting the site on 2nd October planned a co~spiracy, they had utilised sophisticated arms, they bad utilised and after the incident has tak ell place; what have been the intelligence reports, whether sophisticated techniques; and tbey had sbown there were some reports prior to 2nd tbe greatest skill in running away from the October ? After this incident has taken scene. But this has not happened in tbis place have tbe intelligence agencies tried to Cdse. Therefore, we cannot take it for find out whether tbere was any team bebind granted tbat this was part of the usual the entire assassination effort or whether it extremist gang·s attempt; one of them migbt was an act of insanity on the part of a have tried this. You must go out of the single individual. Wbat are the inferences? way to find out wbat was the motivation Which are tbe various agencies that have behind this, whether it was to settle the coordinated and bow far as tbe coordination account of something tbat had been done to worked? him. whetber some ono bad inspired bim to act in this particular manDer. That issue will I would also like to know have to be gone into. this in this context because that will be a dangerous signal for the future. A In t.his co~text I would like to bring news has appeared in sections of the press another Issue, with your permission. Just as that a hundred uniforms of Black Cat tbe Gandhi Samadhi is a sacred place, tbere Commandos have been missing. From are many sacred places in this country; they some of the extremist activities which we may be belonging to the Hindus' or to the have seen and about which be Sikhs or to the ~usJims or to the Christians have read. we find that some of the or to the neo-Buddhists. About these shrines assassinators come in uniform, police we always say tbis. Whether one believes i~ " uniform, commando uniform, and they try religion or not, whether one is a believer in to attack. On tbe same day when this religion or one is an atheist, one believes that incident took place at Rajghat, a similar tbese holy places where there are Burdwaras, incident also took place at tbe place of Mr. temples or mosques, cannot be utilised for Ribeiro who is in cbarge of law and order, anti-social activities, secessionist activities and it was found out that people with terrorist activities. • policeman's uniform, people bavinl a car with police label, enter his compound and MR. SPEAKER: Even for preaching of fire at him; but since be is an expert, and hatred. not his wife, he lies down and as a result of that, he j$ .s'_ved, but his wife is sliahtl; hit. PROF. MADHU DAHDAVATE: Yes, Therefore, this particular query of mine is even for preacbiDI'dMlilred. Only recently, 309 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 310 to tbe sbame of all of us, on tbe 29th an interim government at the centre. when April, tbe proclamation of Khalistan came it was ably headed by men like Sardar from the Golden Temple. Tbey have not Vallabh Bhai Patel, jf 'you look right from only denigrated the country, but they bave that time.' We find 'that today our Prime denigrated tbe Gol~eD Temple because I am Minister feels the need of restructuring tbe one among tbose wbo feel tbat tbose who Home Ministry just as the Constituent preach violence and tbose who preach hatred Assembly felt that the Constitution should preach something which is prohibited under be there, but some time so many people the very tenets of those whom the Golden tried to dabble with the Constitution and Temple symbolises. Tberefore, tbat was the brought amendments which were frivolous. denigration of the' temple that took place on 29th April last. Now tbe Sarbat Khalsa was I would we]come any good structural held. At that time also demonstration took change in the Home Ministry that takes place, Khalistan slogans were given. Since place; but tbe Home Ministry should not be this is the question of 2nd Octoher incident restructured in such a manner that tbe man at Raj Ghat, I do not dwell on that in in charge of the Home Ministry should feel detail, there will be another opportunity to , that his wings are clipped. his powers are discuss the problem of Punjab and extremist taken aWI1Y, he is supposed to be in cbarge activities in different parts of the country, J of security while somebody else will be in wiH raise this issue at that time. charge of internal security. I don't know what is external security and what is internal Let us try to find out whether there is security. External security should be the any alliance between these forces and also concern of the External Affairs Minister. We try to find out the facts to see tha t they are have found that I nternat Security is created not allowed to use shrines. and more than that, a lot of structural changes have taken pJace in the Home MR. SPEAKER: This is the crux of Ministry. the problem which you have just touched If we al1 get together, this evil can be Just In this respect T would like to make an rooted out. appeal to the Prime Minister. J have said it publicly that it is the prerogative of the PROP. MADHU DANDAYATE: Even Prime Minister of a democratic country to jf we get together, if the security arrange chang and reshuffle the Ministries in any ment fails, notbing can save the country. way tbat he wants, he can change the port folios in any way tbat he wants, but if MR. SPEAKER: J hope everything constantly there is a Damocles Sword will succeed. I am of the firm opinion that hanging over the head of every Minister, no if we root out this nonsense for all times to Minister win feel a long term stake in his come from the body politic of India, we will Ministry and he will function just like a fire ' be doing the greatest service to the country. brigade. Whenever there is a fire, he will go there and extinguish it, come back to the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : The depot and wait for the next fire to take eotire country was behind Mahatma Gandhi place. and yet Mahatma Gandhi was assassinated. Let us not forget that. I do share your noble feeling and sentiment that on such issues .. Let me end by saying that with this all must stand together, Jive together and casual manner in which frequent reshuffles die together. and changes are taking place, Ministers are removed and brought in, it does not give any Minister a sense of assurance that be While coming together, a lot of unity wil1 be there for five yearS1 he can plan the does not create a security. For that there security of the country on the ba~is of 100g has to be a political wiJJ to deal with the term plan. It is not that I am pleading for problem. Mr. Buta Singh; but I am pleading for all the Ministers whomever you make the Home Sir, repeatedly the Home Ministryr is Minister. he should not feel that in tbe being restructured. Por years together the prevk>us night he Was the Horne Minister Home Ministry is existing. When there was and the next mornin" be would be out of 311 Adjournment Motion NOVBM~ER 4, 1986 Adjournment Motion 312 [Prof. Madhu Dandava.e] busbes. The SUD can also sometimes be over Home. If tbat is the teeling, be will bave shadowed by clouds. Tbe failure of tbe no commitment and long-term planning on security at Rajghat can be compared ~o security. tbat. Tbis happened due to tbose inefficeot and indiscreet personnel wbo were posted . Therefore. I feel tbat these aspects also tbere to suard tbe area. The whole security have to be taken into a~ouDt. Unless the system cannot be held responsibld for it. Prime Minister takes note of the fact tbat tbe At tbat time it was said that tbe C.B.I. or casual way of functioniol. casual way of I.B. bad informed them about the possible resbuffiin8. casual way of changing the attempt on tbe life of tbe Prime Minister. structure of Ministries will uDtimately create I was also told tbat a~ter the receipt of tbis problems for him, it will be a problem for infromation the D.C.P. had marked tbe the whole country. file to S.P. The A.C.P. had marked it to S.I., the S.I. to the Head Constable and . Sit. I hope tbat tbe' Home Minister will tbe Head Constable to tbe constable. take care of tbe problems tbat I have But unfortunately DO concrete step was mentioned. taken and they simply passed on files to one anotber. I would like to know from the boo. MR. SPEAKER : Motion moved : Home Minister Sbri Buta Singb, whether tbis failure is ontbe part of the security system "That the House do nOw adjourn." or is confined to tbat particular place or some persons? In my opinion. only God saved Shri Bhagwat Jha Azad. the life of our Prime Minister. The security arrangement failed totally at tbat time. [ 1rans/alion] May I know what measures are you going to take to improve tbe thinas? I would SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD like to bave replies to all these questions (Bhaaalpur) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, India has from you. I would Dot like to repeat tbe been a pilgrimage centre of all religions. questions raised by Shri Madbu Dandavate Important reli&ions of the world also in his speech. What steps are you going originated in this country. Tbis sbows the to take to bring about improvement in all richness of our civilisation. The people of these thinls '/ I would also like to know tbe country thank the almighty God for why responsibility of tbe security of tbe saving the life of our Prime Minister. Prime Minister has been entrusted to Otherwise had we depended solely on different agencies? The Dolhi Police the security forces we would have been contend tbat they were incharge of the orphaned. outer security. For inner security tbe Black Cat Commonded, the I.B. personnel It is a matter of pleasure that our Prime and the special Security Force were res Minister is still leading the country. The ponsible. I would like to know as to why people from all walks of life, including the responsibility of tbe outer and inner tbe farmers, the labourers and security bas been assigned to different forces· others have great faith in him. The like Delhi Police, the Black Cat commandos dastardly attempt made on the life of the and I.B.? It is due to the grace of God Prime Minister near the 'Samadhi' of that the Prime Minister is there to serve tbe Bapuji on 2nd October is most condemnable. country. You failed to do anything in this I share the sentiments expressed by Prof. respect. I would like to have replies to Madhu Dandavate and strongly condemn all these questions from you. You should the railure of hundreds of Black Cat assure U8 and the people of the country commandos. metel detectors. tbe Delhi regarding the security of tbe Prime Minister. Police personnel, Quter and inner security The leaders of qur own country as weJl as rings and other security measures including of tbe foreign countries condemned the I. B. and C. B I. arrangements, on incident because Shri Rajiv Gandhi is Dot wbom we were depending for tbe security merely an individual, be is also a symbol of of the bon. Prime Minister. The security faith which the people of our country personnel merely kept on looking at and and other countries repose in· him. Shri searebinl tbe trees but tbey overlooked tb. RaJiv Gandhi i. aD embodiment gf gur 313 AdJour~me,,' Motion ~ARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 314 dreams. He is a leader Dot onJy of this there. . But tbe leaders of some parties did couotry but of ,Africa, Asia and of all oon Dot make any commitment. I can mention alisoed countries as well. Sbri Rajiv the names of tbose bOD. Members even. Gandhi enjoys tbe affection of the people of I had asked (rom one hOD. Member wbether the wbole of the country. Tbe scbool Army should be seot to the temple, be cbildren of whole of Africa say that the remained·noD committal and left the decision Super Powers bave managed as mucb as 80 io this respect to the Government. I would tonnes of explosives per person to eliminate like to say that on such issues the OpPosi them whereas only 60 kilogrammes of tion as well as tbe Government should sit . explosive are needded to kill a person. But together and reach some consensus on 'tbanks to tbe Super fowers tbat tbey have them-they may pertain to elimination of arranged as much as 80 tonnes of explosives terrorists from Punjab or to formulatioD of for every person. An effort is beinl made major schemes for the progress of tbe in the world under the leadership of Shri country. Rajiv Gandhi to destroy the stocks of explosives and tbe nuclear weapons. Shri Prof. Madhu Dandavateji, I could not Rajiv Gandhi is in the forefront in setting understand as to why. did you not attend up the Africa Fund also. Therefore, it is the meeting caned by the Prime Minister not a question of an individual or the today. You have rightly said that the country but of the whole world. country is facing danger and at tbis critjcal juncture, tbe Prime Minister, i.e. the Tbe security of the Prime Minister bas leadership of the country_ been assigned to different agencies like Delhi Police. I.B .• C.B.I. etc. We are not con .. [English) cerned with tbese piecemeal arrangements. Here we are not concerned with C.B.!. on SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: There I.B. Here we would like to know' from is no relation between the two. the Home Minister as to what steps be is going to take to ensure tbat the security ( r'Qnslatlon] system is made foolproof .in the comins days. We aaree witb Sbri Madbu Danda PROF. MADHU DANOAVATE: As vate up to this point. He bas not raised you have raised tbis matter, I would like points to wbich wc may not agree. But I to clarify the position that we feel it would like to examine tbis question further. improper to discuss such an important Why bas such a tbing happened? Why the issue witb the P.M. in tbe private chamber. Prime Minister of the country always needs First we would like to raise it here and then security and why docs he live in the state of discuss it with him. uncertainty and fear? The late Prime Minister Pt. Jawabar Lal Nehru uaed to SHR! BHAGWAT JOA AZAD: I mix 'up with and meet millions of people am glad tbat Prof. Madhu Dandavate bas without any danger and fear. But wby bas made his position clear. But I also know present situation developed in the country? that tbe solution of this problem cannot bl Who is responsible for i~ ? found only by bavjng discussion in this House. It can be sorted out in the meeting We should have reacbed some con between tbe leaders of the Opposition and lensus on tbe national issue when tbe the Prime Minister. It would have been terrorists bad struck terror in runjab. But better if the issue would have been discussed we failed in this regard. Prof. Madbu first in tbe meeting held in the morning Dandavate bas said tbat we should not and subsequently bere. There is anotber take politics to the temp". But I want to aspect of it that crores' of people in the remind Prof. Madbu Dandavate that when country will think that the Opposition did this issue was raised in tho House and our not accept the invitation of tbe P.M. for party Members bad warned tbat in the tbe meetins. If there was no agenda, then long run tbis spectre of terrorism might you could bave taken, up any issue for d!8- become a giant. and as such terrorists cussion. I am not saying tbis for the sake should Dot be given protection, in the of criticism.' I am talking of the people of temples and tbey should be taken out from the country whose percentage literacy is 315 Adjourument Motion NOVEMBER 4, 1986' Adjournme"t Motioll 316 [Shri Bbagwat Jha Azad] Shri Rajiv Gandhi is the embodiment of the progress and development of the thirty-nine against the earlier 2 per ceot. country. In this background this Adjourn Sixty per ceot of the people do nor" read ment Motion expresses some element of newspapers. So they would not be able to censure against the Government. I would understand your sentiments and will not he like to interpret it differently. On tbis able to read the statement that you have occasion, we should express our tbanks to just given. So I would like to say that as God for sa~ing the life of our Prime Minister a leader of ao Opposition Party you will and should congratulate the Prime Minister have to see that there should always be that io spite of this incident of far reaching scope to arrive at some consensus on such consequences on 2nd October, he flew to national issues. I appreciate your senti Wardba. I had accompanied him. There ments but at least 80 per cent of the popula was no sign of anxiety on his face. At tion will not be able to appreciate them Wardha he laid wreathes on the samadhi of howsoever well-worded your statement Bapuji. I am very happy that the coun~ry may corne in the national perspective. Sir, has a leader, who could carryon with it is clear that there is a foreign hand behind normal schedule of visiting Wardha and this incident. Shri Kunnah Nandan Nayar other places by a special plane, an hour has written a book On Punjab. In this book after an attempt was made on his life. be has said tbat so far three attempts have Therefore. I consider it an occasion for been made on the life of the Prime Minister conveying to him our best wishes today. in foreign countries, i.e., in Paris, Landon This House and all its Members must and America. Just now my frirnd has congratulate him and wish him a long life referred to Allenedo. In this· way, to lead us for many more years. On behalf several incidents are also before us which of the people of this country, I would like to show that some people are interested in dedicate this verse to him: creating instability in other countries. The person who fired shots might have been Koti-Kn1i aanknon ka .,apna prompted for taking any revenge but the tum .wkaar karoge, foremost intention of those who might have Koti-kotl armaanon ml#ln motivated him was to destabilise the tum nutan rang hharoge, Government. They do not ~ want to see De6h mangta 'yaK. Shr~ Rajiv Gandhi alive; they want tbat in dan doge kyo nay; jawani. every State, regional parties may come up, the I'hanya-dhanya sanJaar kl'h uthe. Congress which is an all India party may naya Hind ka palli, disintegrate and it may become leaderless. Pragat i path ke tum raahi ho. They want instability in the country so that nahin ,abr hai naya varsh hai, they may control the country in any form Nayi Y(l..ina, Naya var.h Irai. they like. It is, therefore, necessary that we should not rai~e this issue in tbe form I request you all to come under this new of an Adjournment Motion but in some leadership and I would request Pr.of. Madhu different form because Adjournment Motion Dandavate to withdraw the Adjournment has an element of censure against the Motion moved by him, and let it be called Government. What for do you want to a simple Motion in order to express our censure? Against whom the censure will fears and apprehensions. Let us thank be brought 1 For the terrorism, fiss_iparous him and wish him a long life to lead the tendencies and. communalism that are country. spreading in tbe country. only the Prime Minister and his party will not be held reponsible, you will also be held responsible, 12.51 hrs. if measures are not taken to contain them. (MR. DEPUTY ~PEAKER in the Chair] What i~, therefore. necessary is that the hon. Home Minister may throw light on the (Engli.sh] .attempts made 00 the life of the "Prime Minister as mentioned in the book published SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY on Punjab. The bon. Minister should tell (Katwa): Sir, I take the opportunity in this us bow he would assure us in the matter. debate to express OUf concern at the daring 317 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 318 lapse of security to protect tbe Prime there ego clashes going on? Js there any Minister and other Leaders of our country. pointed accountability, or are we just playing We consider tbat tbe attempt at Raj Gb8t. is and are just so casual that serious informa.. not an isolated incident, but it is part and tion comes in and we do not take note of parcel of tbe attempt made by tbe enemies it ? So, are we serious, i.e. those who arc of our country and those who are based entrusted with the task? Do they perceive abroad to destabilise our country and sincerely about what is the real danger to dismember our country. What worries us is the country; bow attempts were made; who that when the external security environment are the people behind it, and what afe the is getting worsened day by day, when we are motives behind it, and which are the forces seeing tbat around us, the enemies of our from outside which are behind it ? country are trying to make encirclement t.o cultivate the ruling cliques in this country The second point I want to know is to act aga'inst the interests of our country this: you may collect persons from different and when the question of security inside the Forces, e.g. Border Security Force, this force country is becoming para.mount day by day, and that. All right. What kind of training is at that juncture, this kind of lapse is going being imparted to them ? What do we te1l to demoralise the population a_nd demoralise them? Martial training alone wiIJ not do. those who sincerely take the task, discharge It is not some kind of a mercenary training. their duties and effectively take part in the They have to have some kind of a commit protection of our country. It is not the ment. What is that commitment? In the question of an individual whose life was whole of the country; the faith tbat bad been attempted at. I am not going to identify a ,built over the years in tbe concept of pers~n with the country I but tbe question is secularism, in the concept of patriotism is that, was there any motive behind this being eroded day by day. Everybody is attempt to destabilise our country. We have getting infected with this kind of aggressive been discussing in this House, again and religiou~, communal. provincial, caste and again, that there are elements; there are ail kinds of dist"ases. Is anybody seeing this? conspiracies and the killing of Mrs. Indira I can very well remember that during the Gandhi came to us as a glaring example. last Session I had asked: what kind of Rut I want to ask some pointed questions in training do we give to our Ponce? What is this regard. All the incidents have been the immunity which should be there? While narrated and we all know about thatt but in the name of religion, in the name of a this kind of callousness we cannot just certain community, some kind of . a turmoil forgive. But I want to know one pointed takes place in certain pans of our country, question, whether it is a fact that Research should our forces remain in tact or not 1 and Analysis Wing informed the Intelligence What kind of training, i,e. quaJity of training Bureau. the Special Protection Group and do we give, and do the people who have to the Del~j Police, five days before the run the affairs sincereJy po~,sess this quality? attempt, that an attempt would be made at We talk so much about mixing up of reJigion Raj Ghat. They supplied the name of the with politics. Who is mixing it ? would be assass~ns, and how the attack Who is responsible for that? We would be made, that was also given, that have to take it seriously. It is not a matter the man will hide behind the bush and of joke. We can say that providentially, he whether that information was given or not has been saved~ That fellow did not get the and if gjven, what action was taken on that right kind of weapon. I do not know; we regard? But this kind of Japse, we have been have to answer all these questions. seeina as outward showmanship in the name of security. J do not object to certain things Now the third point: what is the which are necessarily to be done. Now, it is scrutiny tbat we do, i.e. of tbose whom we very common: we are bearing of elitism in' have taken? Some reports are here with tbe security system. What is meant by me : one is a UNI despatch sheet dated 29th elitism? I do not know. Elitism ' means October 1986 from New Delhi, saying that what '1 Is there any coordination among 100 uniforms of the Black Cat commandos different F6rceq that have been collected are missing since August this year. Uniforms together and given the name of SPG ? Is of Black Cat commandos, who are the inner there any coordinating authority. or are ring, who are to protect people. Is this true? 319 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4, ,1986 Adjournment Motion 320 {Shri Saifisddin Cbowdbary} The Lok Sabba re•••• emblecJ after LaBcla How is it that they are mising? Was any at three minute. palt Fourteen of enquiry made? What action bas been taken? the Clock [MR. DEPUTY SPBAKBR In the Chair) Then there is something very alarming, I must say. The kind of things going on are ADJOURNMENT MOTJON-(Conld.) luch. UN I has also given a despatch from WubiDgton saying tbat for more than ten (English] YOl1'8, CIA is. using one bank in America to purchase rifles from our Department of Security lapses at Rajabat on lnd Defence. I am saying this because there arc October, 1986 people who do oot have any real kind of perception, as to who are our enemies and SHRI G.O. SWELL (ShilloDg): Mr. who are not. Sixty-thousand rifles were Deputy Speaker, I am bappy tbat tbe debate plIr,based by this CIA outfit from our tbus far has been free of rancour. Althougb Department of Defence. That has come in it is an Adjournment Motion debate, there the papers. Do we scrutinize people has not been any attempt to put tbe properly? Are we just general-minded so Government 00 a pogrom. On tbe other -we do not have to be indiscreet in certain band, there has been anxiety, concern and matters '1 We do not take the riaht kind of anguish. attitude, we do not have tbe right kind of campaign among our people. These are very I have listened to tbe mover of the important : security arrangements, outward Motion, Mr. Madbu Dandavate. as carefully expressioos and all that are important; but as I could. and I also listened to tbe first , tbl.) point is that if tbe environment all over spokesman of our party, Mr. Azad. also tbe country gets deteriorated, people get with tbe same care. I could hardly detect any annihilated and then their danger increases. difference in their approach to this question. Mr. Dandavate put certain very relevant, 13.00 hrs. very searching questions and It is Dot anybody's case, certainly it is not the case So, 1 would like to ask certain questions. of tbe Government, it is not tbe case of the There may be technical things and all that, Home Minister, Sbri Buta Singh, tbat tbere but be bas to give us an answer, to fix the has not been failure and serious lapse of responsibility and take action. They have security. I tbink, tbat is in the best tradition to see bow this danger bas come. I have of this House. I bave been in this House seen it. They bave to see whether that kind for quite some time and I have witnessed of real dangerous tbjng is taking place or one thing ... not and how it should be put to an end. The real conspiracy is going on and we PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE should be alive to the situation and see bow (Rajapur): Sir, he was occupying your action should be taken so that tbis kind of cbair. disaster should not be attempted at or should not take place in the near future. SHRI G.G. SWELL: I am more happy here than there. I have noticed one thing MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We now tbat despite tbe tumult, despite tbe seeming adjourn the House for lunch and sball re senselessness tbat happened bere at times, assemble at 2 P.M. when it comes to the serious question affect ing tbe life, stability and integrity of tbe nation it bas always cut across party Jines. 13.01 brl. There bas always been reasonableness and there has always been unity., I am happy to see this kind of spirit again today in this The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch House. I would not go into tbe derails of till Fourteen of tbe Clock wbat bas happened. I do not have more searching questions than what Mr. Dandavate and Mr.' Azad and to some 321 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA.13. 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 322 extent Mr. Choudhary posed to tbe Home language is different. But I am part or Minister. I tbink, it is his duty and it is in India because I am part of this House. his interest to clarify tbose questions as' to Ta'ke away the Parliament and there is no why tbis particular elevated spot at that India. It is as clear as tbat. And in au' place was Dot searched. as to why 'action was democratic structure, tho' person who not taken on certain intelligence reports that epitomises that unity. who is charged witb bad been seot before tbe event took place, the responsibility of taking care of tbi. as to why more precautions were 110t taken country is the Prime Minister. You just especially when certain reports had appeared cannot play with bis life. You cannot in the Pakis(ani press. All these are relevant just take away the Prime Minister' like tbat questions. And the Members have also and expect that unity and stability will posed certain other ques~ions about the continue in this country. It was Providence reported disappearance of 100 uniforms of that saved Shri Rajiv Gandhi on October tbe Black Cat or Black Foot commandos. 2nd. We know what bas happened in Punjab relating to the Director General of Police, PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE= Mr. Ribeiro. They almost succeeded to kill President of India also. him by using the police uniforms. If this is true, this is a very serious, a very worrisome SARI G. O. SWELL: Yes, the question. But that is Dot my point in this President of India also. But it seems tkat debate. I know my time is limited. But I the focus is on tbe Prime Minister and the want to make this point that apart from the newspapers in Pakistan and other places incumbent of an office and it has been our have been speaking about Rajiv Gandhi. good fortune in this country that we have not so much about the President. That had outstanding persons of character, of is why my remarks are confiDed to this. ability occupyinl tbe office of tbe Prime So, it was Providence tbat saved him on Minister rigbt from lawaharlal Nehru to Lal October 2nd. If the worst had bappened. Babadur Shastri, to Mrs. Gandhi and now one shudders to think what would have we have Rajiv Gandhi, another outstanding happeoed to this country-the riots, the person ... destruction-and it is difficult (or us to think whether we could come to this House aaain SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (Midna ... and deliberate in tbis manner. It would pore) : There were other two Prime have unleashed such forces that would Ministers. have destroyed this country. This is wbere we are all concerned, whether it is Madbu Dandavate in the' Opposition or it is 0.0. SHRI G.G. SWELL; If you come to Swell in the Congress or it is Saifuddin that, even other two Prime Ministers were Chowdhary. We all belong to tbis country. men of sterling character. That has to be 'If there is no India, we arc not tbere. If said about them. India is weak. we are all weak. If India Mr. Rajiv Gandhi, in hi's two years, has . 'is strong, we are all strong. That is wby wOn tbe imagination of the country. He we are al1 concerned, and tbat is why we want the Home Minister to clarify these bas also captured that imagination of the points and satis~y us ... (1nterruptiOlIS). international community. He is a young • man on whom the nation has placed its hopes and its aspirations. But tbat is SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Or different. I am making the point of tbe resign. offices of tbe Prime Minister and the President. lhe office of the Prime Minister SHRI G.G. SWELL: Well. I do not is a vital part of our democratic set up. know about resignatiQn. It is not as simple If you take away this parliament, there is as that, and tbere is no guarantee tbat no domocracy, tbere is no unity, somebody else would 'have done better job. there is no India. I come from You do not carryon democracy in tbat the North·East, very different in every way way. So, I am not for tbis claptrap of from the rest of the country_ My resignations and things like tbat. I would 'appearance is different, my outlook is . have liked tbat the whole question should different. my culture i. different, my be cODlidered in deptb. 323 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Adjournment Motion 324 (Sbri G.O. Swe1l1 (AdiJabad) : Me. Deputy Speaker Sir. when I would now come to another point. we think about the incident of 2nd October, ~be security situation not only in India the first tlJing that strikes us i~, as to what but around India bas deteriorated very fast, would ba ve happened if the same incident deteriorated traumaticaUy against us. Tbe had occurred in some democratic country. latest development in Pakistan, where the I think, first of all the Home Minister of United States of America bas agr"ed to give that country would have resigned. But the tbem AWACS aircraft. has introduced a Home Minister of this country is very much new element iota the security situation in sitting here. Admittedly, Shri Rajiv Gandhi the region and we have had the insult from has not asked him to resign but that was the Deputy of the United States Secretary his gentleness. However, this gentleman of Defence when the tauntingl y said that must accept full responsibility for the failure Indians would have preferred the American of security. After all, who is responsible pilots in Pakistan to man their AWACS for it ? planes rathers than the Pakistani pilots. Hon. Sbri Bhagwat Jha Azad It is a clear confirmation that Pakistan to has said in his speech in the morning, that day has a base for the United States Armed they would like to cooperate with the Forces. I an not trying to blame anybody. Opposition. If this is ~Ot when have we But there is a vested interest of big powers not cooperated with them? Do you have to destabilise India if only for the -reason to any such complaint about us? In fact, we bend India according to their will to meet have a complaint that you do not want any their geo"strategic ends, W~ have to stand Opposition. We had merely asked the up against all this, stand up as a 'country a~enda for the meeting proposed to be held proud and strong and the first thing we with the Opposition leaders. And this we need in that is political stability. That is have been asking from the very beginning. why we are concerned about the safety of If we are not aware of the agenda, then we the Prime Minister. We want a better will not be able to participate properly performance from Shri Buta Singh. because then we will go 00 listening silently (Interruptions) to what you would say and would no't be I would like to put one simple question. able to reply any point. We did not imply If it is a proposition that because of tbe anything else, yet OUf suggestion was so multiplicity of security groups, if because of twisted, as to make it appear as if we did the rivalry or bad hlood among them-this not want to cooperate with the Government. is a sad feature of the Indian political life Regarding the Adjournment Motion brought there was nobody to check and the Presi today, it has been said tbat it had an dent. Prime Minister and yourself were element of censure. Yes, I accept it. It sitting ducks-I would like to ask whether had to be so because we are agitated. there was any co-ordination, sorpebody to have a last look about the security arrange (English] ments and be sure that certain things have PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: For been dODe. I think that should be the your information I may tell you that primary responsibility of the Home Minister. the Speakers Conference held in Kashmir a If he cannot trust any other officer below number of years back clearll stated that him, .be !\hould have done that himself. If every adjournment motion has an element I were at your place. I would have gone of censure. That is -;yhy Chamberlain's there and would have seen for myself Government went when the adjournment of whether all these things have been done. Government of Herbert Morrison was But that is not to blame you or anybody. We brougbt in the House of Commons. So, are not here to gain any political mileage. we say that there is ~n element of censure. But we want the shape of things in the country to be better and we that are better assured. ( Translation.] [TranslatIon] SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: It is not SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI full censure althouah there is an element of 325 Adjournment Motion KAR nKA 13, J908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 326 It which sbows 'tbe nature of thinking of 1be ( Translation] Opposition. \\'e are annoyed and feel sorry We do not use our intelligence at all. about certain things and we are expressing He can think about the canopy covered with tbem through this Motion. Certainly. it creepers in Rajghat which can be used has an element of censure. The reason conveniently as a hiding place. from where why we are annoyed is that the bodge-podge he could shoot at his target. He has this which you call the Security System, draws much brain but we do nOl have it. It is it! forces from different quarters and lacks our misfortune that we cann ot aS~UlT!e from proper co-ordination. You have included where dangers may arise. I would submit in it personnel from the B,S.F., C R.P.F., that the Government has been a total failure the Delhi Police and others. Then there has in this respect and we are very annoyed over been the latest addition of the Black Cat it. When the Govtrnment has failed, some Commandos. When so many categories of one should be made accountable for it. It is people are involved in J)rovidiDg security not proper to consider the matter closed and a number of rings are formed, and ring after susJ)ending a Deputy Commissioner or within rings are there, then what kind of a petty officer. Should a Deputy co-ordination can be possible? Has it ever Commissioner shoulder the entire occurred to you as to how the desired results responsibility? Many heads ought to have could be achieved? We are aDgry about the been rolled on this issue, and had the same fact th!lt your securiry system is wrong. If incident occurred in ~ome other country, the most important person of this country, many people would have gone by now. the Prime MiDist~r, canoot be given the necessary protection then what could be It seems, we take everything lightly. We done for us aod for the Chief Ministers? say tbat nothing serious has happened and he went away happily first to Maharashtra, We are very angry about the security and then to Andhra Pradesh. It is quite failure at Rajghat where anyone would have natural that tbe Prime Minister will say so, known that that would be the most suitable but what were you doing? It has been place for tbis purpose. It is true that there proved beyond doubt that security system may be other convenient places as well, createj for the protection of the Prime because our Prime Minister does not bother Minister and other V.I.Ps. is absolutely about his own security. He drives his jeep useless. whenever he feels like doing so. He should also cooperate with his securitymen and not I t has been said tha t certain foreign exhibit his adventurism. In Andhra Pradesh p"wers have a hand in it-Pakistan has a he drove his jeep for 400 kms. He was hand in it. No doubt, the foreign powers trying to display his bravery. It cannot be may have played 8 role 9 but that does not denied that he is a man of courage, but he ellonerate us (rom our own responsibility. does not understand as to what he is doing ? Is the Government not aware that the secret It is not a question of his preference. If was revealed in Pakistan 24 hours before the the Prime Minister is assassinated then it actual incident that the Prime Minister was would have grave implications for the going to be attacked? The Intelligence nation. What will be tbe position of Department had al~o informed you about democracy in the country? People will start the possibility of such an attempt in advanct. losing faith in our democratic system. The I t was reported that somt-one would come Prime Minister should take more precautions in the disguise of a gardener or would hide and cooperate with the security people. behind tbe bushes and fire from there. We Along with this the security system should were told that tbey kept on saying like this-. also be made fool-proof. It seems that and that that was an intelligence guess. even an ordinary terrorist, with ordinary level of intelligence and having no support (Engll.h] of any superior intelligence, can think well Is it just a guess work ? ahead of us. (Trandation) (Englbh] Did Sardar Buta Sioab not receive tbls He is alwa}'s well a\lead Of UI. JoformatioQ? Sbould proper art.neemen, 327 Adjournment !4otion NOVEMSER 4, 1986 Adjournment MotIon 328 (Shri c. ~adhav Reddi] discuss. For that, my first recommendation not have been made for it? Did anybody to the august House is, tbis particular try to enquire tbat on the conopy, which motion concerns the whole of India; it was surrounded by a creeper, a man could concerns all parties. It is a national .. affair bide himself and could shoot, sitting over which we are discussing today. And my there. But nobody noticed this point. recommendation very humbly is that there What I mean to say is that the tota1 security should be no pelitica' slant or political has failed. We should not depend on it. advantage unduly to be rubbed in. Yes, A number of committees of the senior healtltty criticisms on all sides should be officers were formed for this purpose, under most welcome. We have to look at this the chairmanship of the Cabinet Secretary. objectively and cogently and deal with this Tbese did not do anything in this regard. problem as it faces us. Report in this connection was to be submitted by 31st October. We have not Incidentally, Sir, one facet of it is this been informed whether it has been submitted particular cult, the terrorist cult has come to or not. The time-limit was fixed upto 31st be a g~obal affair and we all have started October and we were assured that no more knowing about it quite lately. And so is delay will be made in this regard. This is the case with the world at large. It is not a serious matter. We should be given only a question to count a few heads. It information regarding this as soon as may be John Kennedy. Roberty Kennedy, possible. I do not want that you should Martin Luther King or for that matter reveal all tbe secrets to us and the House. coming right down to the shooting down of We are not that fools that we would like to OUf celebrated, revered late Prime Minister, know all tbe secrets. You may keep your Smt. Indira Gandhi and Sant Harcharan security secrets with you. Singh Longowalji and others. At the global level, it may be BADDER (German) group. {English] it may be Che Guara group, for that matter, it may be many other different tyres of I do not want that security secret to be groups that have cropped up or mushroomed revealed here. But we want to be assureu out the world over. It is not a sman little here that you are taking action aDd you are matter to be considered. It is something not sleeping over it. very big and I am very glad that this pa.fticular motion has been brought in by [ Tran"lation] Prof. Madhu Dandavateji and others. Beside this, I also want to ask if the The question is as to bow tbe stage is person who did this heinous crime, possessed set and we all know something about it hut, aD automatic revolver or stengun., wbat I think, as a back -ground I ought to bring would have bappened ? We would not have out that facet. Fundamentalists attach been able to show our face to anyone. Even themselves-·are prone to get attached-to DOW we feel shy in facing a foreigner. I t particulal type of cult and heavily paid out feel that we should hang our bead in shame. and weJl ... trained provocateurs and their What Sardar Buta Singh thinks in this surrogates also join. Besides that, of course, regard, I do not know. Once again ) will in addition, others who join are like say that we should be ashamed of our crimjnals of various t~pes, smugglers. on failure. paid basis and what not, bank looters and so on. The spectrum is there before our [English] eyes. Unemployed youth get exploited also. Would you believe, in PunJab alone, where MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I request from its Universities. 15,000 young lads are tbe Members to be very brief. Sbri R.S. thrown up. passing out of B.A. and so (10 Sparrow. and so fortb and it is not easy that you employ them all, as you know. But, the SURI R.S. SPARROW (Jullundur) : situation is like tbat throughout the country. HOD. Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. today's ExploitabJt' material js available for tbose adjournment-motion is indeed about the who rope them in. Don't we understand very '~fh)\}s problem wJli~h wo bave l~ tbis ? It is so. This pbenonJcpon and cult 329 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13. J908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 330 is mine. yours avd evorybody else·s concern with his colleagues and, lor tbat matter, you to deaJ with. who have got love for this '. have to work out a very detailed p)an on beautiful country of oueSt 10 tbat light, I that. I know you are waitiD8 for the report come to tbe otber problem. It is for this or it has already come to you or not, I do specific reason that I would like to urge on not know. Anyway, jf you wish to call for everybody. that it be treated as a national the services of anybody in the HOUSt. we problem. should all be welcoming tbat and on tbat aspect. ] wouJd like to recommend tbat ,)'ou I am very happy that the whole House should have a Parliamentary Advisory joined hands together previously. 1 am also Committee to deal with this particuJar very happy that today everybody wants to subject speclficaJJy. And tben draw out grapple with the problem with full team their thinking also to dovetail into your spirit and, in that connection, the first plan. Perhaps, it may be worth doicrg. I pt:rson I would wish to congratulate IS the thank you for just ringing onJy one bell. honourable Prime Minister Shri Rajiv Nevertheless, here is tbe subjccl. wbich, I Gandhi in keeping himself very bteady. even think, we should have gone a little bit in wben the bullets were being aimed at bim detail not oo)y free for aH but those Who and they feU close fo hill). He did not lose wish to put across certain recommendations his nerves. He kept him~elf as a llcime and suggestions. Ultimately, my last appeal Mimstcr should have. That is a matter of again is that whosoever is tbe culprit, anti pride to me btiuS a countoman of this national element. who creates terrorism, it country Hud, for that, God bless him, he does not matter to which religion, to whicb also came out uDscathed. That was his place or to which regjon he belongs-we luck. There could not ba possibly my luck have to use the same yard-stick every where tomorrow and your luck and, for that, I in dealing with this issue. We have to fight wish him a very best of future in this dirty agaim;( it with wiU and vigour. game that has come to be played, roughly 81)d wrongly. PM's security. yes, much has With these words~ I thank yOU very been said on that. J would like to say much again for the opporlunity given. Vt'ly few words on that because they are cogent to the problem on hand. Yes, bere SHRI P. KOLANDAJ VEL U and there there are obviously lapses in (Gobichetlipala),am) : Sir, the incident wbicb secul ity arrangements. How and who is to happened on October 2, 1986 at Rajgbat be blamed? To what extent? But, remember needs a new professional set up for tbe task ooe thing, as I said befofe~ it bas come to of protecting the hon. Prime Minister. Tbe be a new specialised type of job to fight out lapse of security is Dot new to India. the terrorists the' world over, it may be KGB ActuaHy since Independence, wo ha \'c seen or CIA or FBI or MIS, M16, or CIA. It so many incidents. Even OD January 30, bas come for everybody to bring a very 1948, our Father of the Nation, Mahatma specialised job and there is no reason why, Gandhi was shot dead in Birla House in as has been recommended by many, you New Delbi by Natburam GOdse. The should not put your heads together, to second incident also happened after collate whatever knowledge you have Independence i.e. OD February JJ, 1968. apropos tbe conditions obt~inin8 in prag Deen Dayal Upadhyaya, who was the matic terms and tben work out the President of the Bharatiya Jana S8ngh, was methodology to follow. Do you want to found dead on a railway Irack outside have a fresh recruitment for this particular Moghul Santi Station in Uttar Pradebh, after Branch and how is it going to be dispensed being thrown out from a funning train. with? Is it only for the Centre 1 1t is going Afterwards on January 4, J975, Shri L.N. to be for the States also. Ale they going Misbra. tbe then Railway Minister was also to be coordinated in this as a killed in a bomb-blast at Samastipur in specialised force to deal with 'the. particular Bihar State. On Feburary 13, J978. tho phenomenon that is lurking about us aU 1 former Prime Minister Sbri Morarji Desai These are the problems which I wish to pose escaped unhurt when a bomb expJoded in 8 to tbe bon. Home Minister who himself is Sidney Hotel when he and other leaders very well submersed in dealing with tbis were staying there for a Commonwealth problem to the best limits . possible alo08 Conference. On April 14, 1980, the .fat; 331 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Adjournment ~fotioll 332 (Sbri P. Ko)andaivelu) SHRIAJAY MUSH RAN (JabaJpur): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, there is no doubt Prime Minister Smt. Indira Gandhi survived that the whole House, with one voice, is an attempt when a knife was tbrown at her today expressing itself over the serious outside tbe Parliament House. The would ~ccudty lapse which we have found when be assasin Ram Lalwani was described as tbe dcstardly auempt was made on the keeping unsound mind. Then, October 3 J, life of our Prime Minister on 2nd October 1984, our late Prime Minister Smt. Indira at Rajghat. It was really a providential Gandhi was shot dead by two of ber body escape; it was the Bood luck of the country guards. Later on, even after 1984 oue of which saved the Prime M~nister. We would the young and energetic Members of Parlia have been very proud of the security ment Shri Lalit Makan and his wife wore arrangement if the security people had shot dead in tbe broad day light. On reacted in a manner expected of them. August 28 1985 Saot Harcband Singh Today we are spending a lot of money on Longowal ~as gunned down during a public security, The Government is aware of the meeting at Sherpur villal!le in Punjab. On importance of providing our security August 10, 1986 General Vaidya, the retired personnel with modern arms, with a good General of the Army was shot dead at Pune. communication system. with training, with On October 2, 1986 this incident bas . clothes. with all conceivable conveniences happened. I request the hon. Minister of which are necessary in order to enable them Home to see that the list is not lengthened to provide the securit) arrangement for the any further. We have to put a stop once' Prime Minister and other VIPs. to enable for all as far as tbe menance of terrorism in tbem to face such destrardly attempts made this country is concerned. on the VIPs by the terrorists. There is no doubt about that. Unfortunately, Sir, what actually saved the life of our some of tbe speeches which I bad listened to Prime Minister on 2nd October as also of very cerefully give me tbe impression that the President of our country was due to the this event is being politicised. With all lack of professionalism in tbe use of respect to every colleague in this House, armoury and the ,killing skills of the terro I want to emphasize that tbis is not a case rist. That bas only saved our Prime Minister where any politics is to be played, any and our President and otber Cabinet. colleagues. resignation is to be asked for or any Here I would like to mention that actually special police is to be asked for. Whether the situation demands the concept of a it is tbe Delhi Police or whether it is the rationale security system immediately. ] Tamil Nadu Police or whether it is also tell you tbat there is a lack of the police of any other State. they are all coordination among tbe security agencies. I as good as the others. It is not tbe will also go to tbe extent of saying tbis. policeman, it is not the Government, wbich Why do you depend upon the Delhi Police matters, but it is tbe training. it is the only? You can depend upon the Tamil Nadu sources of intelligence, it is the quick Police. I know very well that tbe Tamil Nadu reaction expected of tbe security at large Police is the second best in the world. Some which is lacking. What is unfortunate is of the Tamil Nadll policemen are being that the people responsible for trainingt the posted as security people for some of tbe big people responsib1e for providing the security people. You can very wen depend OD the people with training for a quick reaction in Tamil Nadu Police ... a split second ... PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: OUI SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN (Cooch information is that they are tbe best. Behar) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to point out that no name is com;", on SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU : We know the T.V. screen provided in tbe Lobby, it is very wen that the President of India, the blank. An hOD. Member is speaking. His name should come on tbe T.V. Prime Minister and his Cabinet colleagues are tbe national wealth and property and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : It will we have to protect them. The need of the come. hour is that we have to act as one in order SHRI AJOY MUSHRAN: In short, I to put out terrorism in our country. want· to express ,my views whicb may bo of • 333 Adjournment Motion RAil TIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 334 some use to the hOG. Home Minister. on tbe part of every securityman who is EYeD when we were passinl tb, National protecting the Prime Minister. Security Guards Bill, it was emphasized that the lources of intelligence should be so Papers have reported tbat the Home cootdinated that all 8gencies should know Minister or somebody enquired as to what what the other agencies are collecting; there happened and he was told that it was a shouJd be OQ(~ agency, one apex centre, to scooter backfire. A person from our distribute tbe' information. trade here can detect a noise better than a person who is tniined for security. These For example, we have read in the are the things W'lich require specialised magazines that in Pakistan or somewhere training. else they knew about it. Even, one Intelligence sources is alleged to have been It has been found that when I)resident reported in tbe papers and maaazines that Reagan was ~hot at, the first bullet hit him, they were expecting that somebody in the garb but the subsequent hullets Lit his body~ of a gardener is going to make an attampt guards. The body-gudrds of tbe President on the life of the Prime Minister. This of America and other VIPs are 4" to 6" information, I am sure, was not passed on taller than the VIPs. Today, our Prime to all the people concerned. Neither, all Minister's body-guards-each and evrey the people who are providing security to body-is shorter than the Prime Minister. the Prime Minister belong to tbe same You can check it up if you like. Thi~ is a group. Some are of Delhi Police, some very valid point. are of NSG, some are of SSF and so on and so forth. This is the time when a very PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE: Are serious thought should be given to these you referring to short-sight or short- things. 'height? It is only luck which has saved the SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN I am Prime Minister, not the security, We have referring to height. to be very careful about such situations because as Mr. Reddy was saying, it would Another problem is that, when the have been a great shame on the democracy shots were detected tbat they were shots from and a great loss to the country jf a gun, tbe Prime Minister was there. I was something bad happened to the Prime not there, Mr. Deputy Speaker. According Minister. to the Press report, the Prime Minister saw off the President. Then. he sat down in It is a matter of concern that the his car. It must have taken nearly 40 to training for detectiol sounds-whether it is 60 seconds. It is the duty of the body a gun shot, whether it is a scooter back guards to throw the Prime Minister inside fire-is not given to people wbo are and pusb the car off. It is these body providing security to tbe Prime Minister. guards who should be taken to task, not 10 the Army, as far as my experience and the Home Minister as some of our knowledge goes, even a recruit is taught HOD. Members have said here. It is whether tbe sound is that of a firing from not his job. It is the job of the people who arifie or firing from ao automatic weapon are trained for this purpose. or pistol; whether an LMO is being loaded or a rifle is being loaded. I am very Even in the NSG if there are people surprised ~bat how a person takes a bullet who are trained, they must be circulated. sound for a scooter back fire. Some fellows should Dot be doing the duty for years. There have been some guards The second point tbat I would like to wbo have been at the inner-circle of the mention is that between the first shot and Prime Minister's security for the last the second, the third and subsequent shots, two years. A man automatically gets there was a gap of about SO minutes and not letbargic. a single securityman showed any alertness, showed aoy inquisitiveness. There should The last point that I would like to Illt'n. be some sense of suspicion and aJer~nes8 tion on the firing is that when tbey detected . .." . 335 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Adjournment MOlioll 336 [Shri Ajay Mushran} issue but the fact remains that everyone in the direction from where the assailant was this House-either on this side or on tbe firing, at least fi fteen people fired at him. other side-has admitted tbat if the Prime Leave alono killing, the could not even Minister has escaped the assassination injure him becauo;e they were not firing. attempt it is not because of tbe security but because of Providence. Further, Sir, As far as my ioformltion goei l every guard on the duty of they President of America, the Prime Minister's safety or the fires 50 to 100 rounds just before he joins President·s safety is not only concern to the duty. Because it takes certain amount of Government but. it is also the concern of human reaction to fire. A mall basically the nation and we are part of the nation. is not a shooter. Silver edge reaction is Therefore, if the Prime Minister has very neccssa ry. This is not being done. survived not because of security but Providence my ruling party friends do not Further, Sir, with alJ emphasis at my expect that we will pat the Government on command I would like to say that there the back. Afterall Government must take should he a unified agency of intelligence. the responsibility and must ac(.~ept censure Intelligence collected but not disbursed to for its failure. the people, who can take advantage or who can be warned through that intelligence Sir, I am fully aware (hat no security to our advantage, is of no value. There can be folt-proof. There may be a lunatic. is no point in collecting intelligence if There may organisational attempts in intelligence coJlected is just to score a point which security may fail. It has failed in over the other intelligence agency. It has countries much more adVaiJCed in terms of no meaning. The intelligence must be security than us like USA but the percolated right down to the man who eleruentary principle is that the security should be aware as to what intelligence or must be able to anticipate things and take what pre-warning signal has come about preventive measures based on such anticipa tion. the breach of intelligence or any threatened source of attack on the VVll)s, particularly Let us analyse what happened at the Prime Minister. I am sure that my Rajghat. Firstly, there was complete dis hon. colleagues on my right will agree to regard of the elementary rules. According the point that we should not make it a the this man, Singh to reports Karamjit p political point becau~e as has been went into the place, hidden himself a day mentioned by Mr. Kolandaivelu there have earlier and this was the only obvious spot been so many attempts of assassination on where a man could hid. Now was it not our dear friends of the House. on our late elementary on the part of the s('curity to Prime Minister and also the Father of the spot t'lis man? After all we have Nation. been told that in areas like this dog squads are also put into Sir. no security can be hundred per cent operation. Surprisingly we find that for fool-proof but our effort should be to a day-at least a day-he remained there make it hundred per cent fool ·proof. In aod the security people could not do tbis case it wa" not on1y not hundred per anything. The security people were unable cent fool-proof but something of which to react to the events. As has been rightly . we have to be ashamed of and seriously pointed out, there was a span of 45 worried about. 1 am sure the Home minutes between the first and the second Minister will in his speech put our worry at shots. Assuming tbat the first shot was, rest, particularly about the security of the as somebody tbought. backfire of a scooter Prime M mister. or a motorcar, it was elementary on the part of tbe security force to examine the SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati) : busbes. That was not done. These points Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I can assure ~y have been made by the other hon. Member, friellds of the Treasury Benches that If I but I have got two other serious complaints have given notice of this Adjournment to make. Motio~ and supported the Mot jon moved by h of. Dandavate it is not in. ~~der to When after the second shot was fired. icore a debatiD& point or polltlclse tbe the security . people tired at that maD 337 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motloll 338 indiscriminate1y. If that person had been for tbe security of the Prime Minister and killed, today the entire investigation would tbe President of this country and other have collapsed, It is correct that the dignitaries, there has to be Jess of stenguDs. Prime Minister behaved with restraint and more' of bighly skilled, conc~aled and dignity, but I no not believe tbat the l}lDx-eyed gunmen. That is where )' feel. security people behaved with restraint or the entire Home Ministry has faiJed. I with dignity or that they were able to hope that the Ministry wiJJ Jearn its lesson remain calm. It is es~entia) tbat in an from what has happened in Raj~h8t. explosive situation, tbe security people must Rajghat is not the only isoloted incident, remain calm. But here they fired we saw the death of one of a very valiant indiscriminately and fired in such a manner f:oJdier General Vaidya Sc'rne lime ago, he that they could not hit that man. Supposing was a marked man, and the report gOtS that man would have been killed, all roads that when he was fired at the security man to investigation would have betn closed. hid under the seat of the car, Ibe~e are Further, there was a report that t!le entire the very unfortunate situations \\-hich have shootout incident was filmed by an Indian to be gone into. I would not like to repeat cameraman Purushottam of a London based tbe questions ",hich have already been network of WT, but the er;tire photographs raised about the different lones. 1t appears were erased hy a high ranking police that there are three zones; there is an inner official. I would like to know from the ring, an outer ring and an intermediate Home Minister whether this report which ring and it appears that in between there appeared in the Hindustan Times of 7th is total vaccum. The rings are there, hut October is correct or not. That ~Im there is total vaccum in between them. would give an indication how the t}lings happened. That would have been the I hope tbat .Home Minister wiJI clarify first piece of information which would help some of the doubts tbat have arhen in our the investigation and, therefore. I would minds and also &ive an indication of what like to know what has happened to this steps he has taken. The report ha~ not film. And surprisinply, we are told that )1ft come. but we would like to know \\·hat in spite of this eraser, the London TV steps have been taken in the meantime to showed some clippings immediately on (hat see that such e]ementar} failures of security day and the shooting sound could be heared are not repeated. on the TV. With these few words. ~upport this Further, I would like to know why in r adjournment motion flf Prof. Madhu a situation where the Prime Minister and Dandavate. the President are marked men, they are allowed to attend one function at the very same time. I do not know; I have (Translation] still to recollect whether the Vice- President was on that day in tbe country. May be PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI be was abrond or be came just on the SHAKT AW AT (Chittorga I'll) : M r. Deputy eve. If these three persons would have Speaker, Sirt today we are seriously been there and it unfortunately. something discus!71iog this Adjourned Motion. had happened, or if tbe Vice· President would have been abroad, I do not know 15.00 hrs. what constitutional CflSIS this country would have faced. Therefore, these are [SHRI SOMNATH RATH in the Chair} some of the points which require answer. There is no doubt Chat had the attempt made on 2nd October been a success, i t Also, we find a lot of gun gadgetary wouJd have been hateful and shamefu 1 being used but for security you do not for our Democratic Socialist country. Today require guns, what )IOU require more is the people not only ~)f this country but of ski11s. As hus been said by a very tbe entire would are shaken to see that wben experienced police offiCial, there have been security for the Prime Minister can fail, a. lot of guns around in thi~ country, but ",hltt is the guarantee for the COUlPlon man? 339 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4,1986 AdJDurnment Motion 340 {Prof. Nirma\a Kumari Sbaktawat] system. Were they Dot trained enough to Feat in the mind of common man is quite recognise sucb type of sounds in spite of natural. At the Samadbi of BilPU, the tbere being a time gap of fifty minutes apostle of peace, if aoother champion of between the two shots, Was it a country .. peace had been murdered. tben it would not made pistol· whose sound they were not have been the murder of a Prime Miuister familiar with or they took it as a $oulld of but of Democracy, and the dre:uns of the a scooter 1 Had tbey not received such progress of the country would have been type of training? Hon. Minister for Home shattered on tbe dreams on which the nation Affairs should enquire into this serious is beading forward. Hon. Minister for lapse. Home Affairs bas, no doubt. done his best in maintaining the security system but even then this incident occurred which proves My third point is tbat it bas been laid that your security system has been a total tbat t,here is a foreign hand in it; several failure. We have not yet recovered from magaztnes also have stated this tbing. I want the shock of (he assassination of Shrimati to ask as to what was the form of this Indira Gandh, the memory of which is still foreign intervention. I do not know about fresh in our mind. If this ~econd incident your jnternal report but the House should would have' happened then what face we know how this consipiracy was hatched and would have shown to the public? The ~hy ? . .Wben you had already received people are not oothered about your inner InformatIOn that someone in the guise of a and outer security theories. Pe()ple do not gardener or in any other manner was gOing want to know about all these complications; Co at~ack tbe Prime Minister, why proper tbey straight away ask as to why the securlty arrangements were Dot made? We security system failed. You have ~et up should ,bave ao in depth study of this system, three T\ng~ in the name of security, 'be fadure of which resulted into this specialty fot the Prime Min1ster aod the detes~ible act. You should change your V.V.I Ps. They consist of S.P.G .• N S G., secunty system radically, If the man who Black cat, local police etc. An these forces is incharge of this system and bas failed could not locate the man who had been to per(rom his task. properly. is to be hiding there for the last two days. The removed or punished in the interest of the -Prime Mini~ter is not allowed to meet the unity and integrity of the nation, we sbould general public \0 the nlme of security and do that. even the party members face difficulties in meeting him. To my mind~ if the security No doubt. our country is coming up as system fails in this manner then it is all a the third big power in the Would. We have facade. The security men could not under estabHshed a new system by Jeading che stand the bark\ng signal of the dog of the n~n.aligned countries. That is wby tbe detective squad. Thank God, that even bIg ~owers want to destroy our internal after the faHure of our security system. our secunty system through Pa)d~t.n. There leader, champion of democrs'cy and torch f?re, tbe people asks us, their representa bearer of our progress, Shri RfJjiv Gandhi tIves, as to what caused the lapse in 'he escaped unhurt. If that fellow bad a stengun internal security? Hon. Minister for instead of a country-made pistOl, tben he Home Affairs will answer it and will als would have not only killed the Prime confide in tbe people because this questi~: Minister. President and other people. he relates not only to the V.l.P.s but to the would have murdered our democracy also. general public also. The reason is tbat the India would have become· Beirut and it general. p~bJic tbinks that when the security wouhl bave posl:iihly been ruled by a system IS IOcapable of protecting the Prime pervested mind, the democracy would have Minister, then what type of security it wa. coUapsed completely and there would have and who will protect them? You wm have been army rute. I want to ask why there to pay attention towards this and if it is no coordina.tion in your inner wing or demands sacrifice, then we should be ready tbe black cats? Cannot you establish a for tbat also. Witb tbese words, I thaok high power Oepartment to maintain coordi God for saving our beloved leader, and Il:\tioo between them to ensure proper security cOQclude. 341 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13, 1905 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 342 [English] SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: On that day. of course, when you should be doubly SHRI INDRAJIT G UPTA (Basirhat) : vigilant. This is something really which Mr. Chairman. I think tbat what was cannot be brushed aside so lightly, just by revealed, as it were in a flash on the 2nd taking some action. I know some action October, that is to say. the rotten condition has been taken against a few officers; of OUf security system is something which suspending somebody. removing somebody should be a matter of public and common and then we go to sleep aJi over again, until concern to everybody. I do not know if something happens again. This kind of a some Members, really honestly feel that it thing cannot be allowed to continue. It is would be better not to raise tbis matter here my contention-I do not want to repeat so because it becomes political. So keep Quiet. many things which so many Members on Hush it up. Where are we to go? We botb the sides have said-that our security cannot find some policemen or some body system is suffering not only from guard to punish. Somebody said tbat only incompetence and inefficiency; but I honestly th.e bodyguard is to be blamed not the feel that it is a case of collusion also. I Government, not the Minister. Unfortuna have no evidence. I cannot prove it. If tely, we are not in a position to find out you ask me to produce evidence on paper, individual bodyguards or police constable. I cannot produce it. But common sense also We have g0t the Government infront of us. tetls you something. People here are talking That is the meaning of this parliamentary about two Super Powers. I can assure you system. It is the Government which is tbat if both the Powers were out to finally responsible. Therefore, we have no assassinate our Prime Ministers, both of other way. except to raise this matter for them, well our security certainly would not di~cussion here, in the House. If I under be able to do anything. You know it very ~tand rightly, what my friend Sbri Bhagwat well. Don't go on saying 'two Super Jha Azad and some others want. This was Powers'. You know in this particular case. that everything should be just glossed over; that so long 88 our country stands by this keep quiet. don't raise this matter. We .are policy of non-alignment and peace and very sorry. we cannot oblige. Within two disarma~ent, and is against imperialism. years, we were on the verge of losing two there is only one Super Power which is Prime ~1injsters. Is it a small matter; is it interested, directly or tlnough its agents, to a party matter? We wiJI never come to remove this force from the scene-because know what were (he security lapses which India is a big country; India is a very contrihuted to Indira Gandhi's murder, important country and a key country; and because you have decreed that the findings pushing it off its path of non-alignment and of that enquiry commission should not be peace is not in the interests of the two made public. Everybody kncws it is a Super Powers. It is in the interests of one security .lapse; basically it was a security Super Power. lapse. Otherwise. Prime Ministers are not generally killed within their own residences, Mr. Rebeiro's incident. the attempt on by their own bodyguards. his life also shOWS the extent to which the systf'm has been infiltrated, has be&-n So, this is not a normal situation. So penetrated. It i~ a very dangerous situation; many Members have spoken about that, it is not only a quel'tion of some people quite correctly; and here at Rajghat on the wearing PoHce uniforms. It is also a 2nd of October, something happened which question of the fact that the assailants rea]Jy could cause nothing but trepidation included personnel-including a. head among all people in this country. Jf this is constable of the Punjab Armed Police who the situation, if this is how our security faces W8!1 also, I think, Jattr arrested. Rebeiro a situation like this in New Delhi, in the himself said: 'I know who they are. They capital city, in a place like Rajgbat where are my own men-4 or 5 peopJe.' This Prime Minister and so many VIPs were incident took place within the complex of present ... the Punjab Armed Police and not in some body's private bouse or res;d~nce: and they PROF. N.O. RANOA (Ountur): And came not only wearing uniforms. 1 hey on that daYt we~e ~sin~ an official jeep which belongs tQ !43 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4, 1986. Adjournment Motio" 344 (Sbri Indrajit Gupta) carbine or something. Why this fellow. the Armed Police or the BSF-I do not Karamjit Singh satisfied himself with some know to whom. One was wearing an country made weapon? J do not know; I officer's uniform. and the otber was wearing am not ao expert on weapons, this country a bead constable's uniform, and they made weapons, so called, firing, 12 bore managed to get away. cartridge or a pellet a could also kill a man definitely; at what range, I do Dot know. I suggest seriously to the Home Minister He had calculations. But, anyway, he failed; tbat wbile be examines all other aspects thank God be failed. But the question is which so many Members havo spoken about, whose specific responsibility was this '1 Who e.g. lack of coordination, multiplicity of was to search this 8 rea and why was it not authorities and agencies. too many of them done 'I How loOJz was this fellow hiding perhaps, which have some rivalries among there? Somebody bas to answer these themselves, tbe fact is tbat tbe specific questions. responsibilities never caD be pinned down: wbo was really responsible for having that When Indira Gandhi was killed. my area thoroughly searched and cleared before personal feeling was that the then Home that fonction was to begin. Somebody I Minister should have rt"signed. Somebody Wbo? Was it a Constable or a senior says here that resi~nation is very cheap; may police officer? Was it somebody in the be we have our different scale of values. I intelligence? Who was it? Somebody has don't say that my good friend, Shri Buta to give information saying, "The area is Singh-he is a good "friend of mine-should clear now-We ba ve searched it thoroughly; resign now. I don't say that. (Interruptions) No, I am not saying that, but I am asking it is clear DOW. Now the Prime Minister, President and others can come. The everybody to ponder. Suppose the worst fUBction can begin." Who was responsible had happened on 2nd October, 1986. In for this? This man was supposcd-I do not two ye-ars, almost exactly two years, you know; according to the press report--to would bave lost two Pr:irne Ministers to the have been sitting tbere, behind tbat bush, assassin's bullet. I say that a resignation may be for two or three days, because he of a Home Mjnister on such an occasion is bad his tooth brush with him, paste with a very small compensation, recompense for him, drinking water with him, a towel with such a thing. 1 agree with those members bim; he had equipped himself .well for a lorig who have said, definitely, it is an attempt stay; some little food to eat also; and he to de-stabilise the country. There is no was sitting. there. It is not a question doubt about it. of having gone up tbere just two or three hours earlier. This is a scandalous thing. fTra11"latlon1 How security system and our police can be SHR 1 AlA Y M USHRAN: What type oblivious to sucb a tbing when there is no of a good friend to him you are to ask for biding pJace anywhere around? This is the his resignation? only place available. What are we to think ? It is just inefficient? Am I to believe that SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: You ask our police people are so inefficient? 1 am bim w~ether he 1'1 my good friend or not. also led to the conclusion tbat there is some element of collusion. I cannot say; it il for [English] you to find onto (Interruptions) This is not a case. Don't be flippant AN HON. MEMBER: Drama 1 about these things? Sbri Buta Singh has been through difficulties and strains in :he SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Drama, I last few years I know that; but he has been do not know. First of all, there was a shouldering this responsibility of the Home feeling tbat there was an element of drama : Minister of India. Therefore, everybody that was when tbe identity of the weapon here has said that tbe whole system has got was disclosed; Dow-a-days when there is so to be overhauled. mucb free acceSS to sopbisticated weapons in tbis ~ouDtry, every terrorist is abJe to set Every time you are only creating a new ~old of ~ sten~un or machine or pistol or !l force. You hrins a Bill beret The otber 345 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKAl AdJournment Motion t 346 day it was done, in the Jast session-a SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: They are National Security Guard Bill was brought. flippant? But so many black cats are We said, again one more, Wby? What is around. They should do their job properly. the point? And you said, no, no, this is They should be trained to do their job going to be a special force trained in anti properly. Otherwise tbe Home Minister terrorists training with special type of people either this one or the subseq:uent Home in it, this and that. But nothing happens. Ministers-wilJ again find himself in serious So, our intelligence system is definitely not trouble. upto the mark. The terrorist_; intelligence sy&tem sometimes seems to work much Anyway, Providence has saved the Prime better than ours, and it would work better Minister this time. Wt! are all thankful for if there is a collusion; there is no doubt that. about it. If there is an infiltration and penetration, their intelligence 3ystem is bound PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE: Even to be better thun yours. This is 8 very the country is saved. dangerous thing. So. we would like to hear from the Home Minister what subsequently, SHR) INDRAJIT GUPTA: But we after 2nd of Octobc{, 1986, has happened? cannot rely on Providence every time and It is not even a month; it is just . a month. therefore please assure the House and the Have they found out anything about it 1 country that you arc really serious about What is being the result of that committee taking firm steps, concrete steps in the which was appointed to make a quick shortest possible time to remedy tbis enquiry ioto this whole th'ing? And what situation. are the serious lapses tbey have found in the security 'arrangements which require SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM immediately to be plugged 1 Otherwise, we (Salem) : Mr. Chairman, I think my friends do not know what is going to bappen. There on the other side would remember that when is no hundred per cent guarantee against leave was being sought to move tbis terrorist ao..:tions, I agree. Terrorist actions Adjournment M.otion, th.ere was hardly any have taken a'toll in other countries, some opposition-in fact, there was no opposition where in a very sOphisticated way when the -for the simple reason that. .. (Illterruptions) assassin using telescopic sights on rifles and firing at long range and a1l that, we know PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : what happened in ,the case of Kennedy or ' Ex~epting the Parliamentary Affairs Minister Martin Luther King and all that. Our who said, "Let there be a discussion under friend Olaf Palme was killed only the other Rule 193". day in the middle of a crowded street when he and his wife came out of a theatre or a SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM cinema. There is no hundred pel' cent I think Prof. Dandavate could not hear guarantee against it, I agree. That is not me, but I thought I was loud enough. the point. Despite the best security arrangements tbere can be casualties. But THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS if the security arrangements are so bad, so (S. BUTA SINGH) : He said, "Here aDd obviously poor, and the report says tbat now". after that thiog was over, firing and aU that. these black cats, they started firing at SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANOALAM : random into every bush and every tree! I At the time when leave was being sougbt would not like to be protected hy such a particularly when the matter has to b~ force. discussed, no attempt has been made to SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: You hush it up at all. Nor bas tbere been any will find a rat. attempt to say that there is nothing political The attempt on tbe life of a Prime Ministe. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: There is a is a political issue. It is not a non-politicar saying that if a black cat crosses your path issue. None of us have stated that it is al it is a sign of bad luck. nOD ",political issue and it is most unfortunate that Indrajitji has started by sayins that an AN HON. MEMBER: They are flippant. attompt bas been made to bush it up_ 347 Adjournment Motion NOVE:MBER 4. 1986 A.djournment Motion 348 [Sbri P.R. Kumaramangalaml to address ourselves to the root of the problem? On the contrary, tbere bas been a lot in Indrajitji was very correct when be said tbat the Press and a lot of views, of va,doDs nobody call assure us that the security can be authorities have come in to the extent that so good that definitely a person. who is pro .. various police authorities and various forces tected, can never be assaulted ,never be assassi started blaming each otber. Therefore, there nated. It is impossible. The best of best securi bas reatly been no attempt to hush it up. ties in the world have failed often. The history One tbing is definite, Mr. Chairman, Sir, has shown this. I need not repeat instances. that what happened on the 2nd October is Therefore, the issue is not security. The outrageous. It is outrageous to say the issue is fundamentally the atmosphere. What least. are we doing, the representatives of the people, consciously to work among the AN HON. MBMBER: Shocking. people, to build a socia) movement, to bring down terrorism? How many of us are SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM having the courage to go out jn the field Shocking would be less firk. it will be mild. where terrorism is in full scale, to face it ? That is why I used 'outrageous' because only Are we able to build a people's movement in 1984 we have lost a Prime Minister who to face terrorists? No law and order was assassinated and the· nation went machinery can ever crush terrorism ... through a trauma. (Interruptions) If you do not allow me to speak, I will sit down. Wbat I feel a little surprised about is the form in which this Motion has been THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI brought. The sympathy, the thanks to VASt\NT SATHE): That is another form Almiibty. the praise of providence is all of terrorism. welcome but the Motion is an Adjournment Motion which is in short almost akin to a SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM : No Confidence Motion. I would have expected senior ieaders, whom all of us respect, like Indrajit Gupta, PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Yes, Professor Saheb to have definitely placed it is. this point of view that it is not only the security lapse but also the problem of SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM; terrorism, the socjal problem and we should It is as good as a Censure Motion. If 1 take this opportunity to dedicate ourselves may submit, a no-confidence motion would to fight it out. All of them who claim to achieve exaclly what tbe assailants want to be the representatives of tbe people of India. achieve i,e. to destabilise tbe nation. should go to the root where terrorism inculcated, should educate the people to PROF. MADHU DANJ)AVATB Do figbt terrorism. After all, that is our not detain us as terrorists. fundamental duty. We claim that we do not want to destabilise the nation. We claim that we want unity and integrity. We SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM : claim that we want a strong India. We say The reality is that there are various types of that we want to go to the 21st century with terrorists. This is not a matter to be taken progress. . But what are we doing to ensure lightly. I would have appreciated the if this other than talking in this House? Is it motion did not have partisan motivations not the time for us to really be the pcoplc·s bebind it. The objective should have been representatives? I am sorry, tbere seems to to draw the notice of the nation not only to be a small question as to what also can you tbe lapses but also to the security do. I tbink it is relevant for us to address unfortunate atmosphere tbat is prevailing. this question to ourselves and find out It is not only a matter of whether the pOlice whether the only thing we can do is sit in did duty or is important their not--that this House and talk and not 80 to the fields hut let us go to the root of the matter. Is it where the real movement is and face it a matter of only the failure of the polic~ 1 Is squareJy .•. (Interruptions). I think I should tht.~re not a very unfortunate atmospher prevail go on record to say that the only section of mg a t the moment in tbe nation? Are we not people who have taken it on their shoulders 349 Adjournment Motion KARtlKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment M'otfo,. 350 to face this is the trade unions in the teal another set of people. At least immediate sense. They have attempted at least. The protection should have been given. I would other sections have to liven up and face this. only like to say this much that it is appro It is necessary and it is a fact. I am aware priate at this moment tbat using this that when it is .an economic demand for the occasion and opportunity. tbe Home Mini~ter trade unions, we get enlightened and fight should inform all of us~ who I think are for tbe demand. But when it is a demand responsible representatives of the people. as for the unity and integrity of the nation, to what real1y had happened, whose fault why is it that we are not able to create the was it. I do not agree wi lh the concept same response 1 The defec t lies in tbe that one cannot find out whose fault it was leadersbtp. All of us, including myself, are because there were jurisdictions. Whether not emphasising 0(1 it. it was tbe SPGs or the Delhi Police or whoever it is, we must know and proper .I can say that I have touched raw points action must be taken. I do not think any and lot of them are reacting pretty quickly. political authority is responsible but But simultaneously there are certain things definitely the authorities in charge should be which are relevant to the security lapses. It pulled up to ensure that this does not repea t is important that a note should be taken of in future. tbe fact that tbe assailant was sitting on the top of a concrete structure where he had Finally, I would say that this cannot be built a small hut. He had not only tooth solved. This danger which lurks around paste-I do not know why be had a castor the corner for everyone of us can only be oil bottle - he had his gun and he bad lot removed if we build people's movemen t to of other things. He had a green blanket on face terrorism, to face these separatist forces the top of it. He had a mosquito-repellent and fight them in the fields. Thank you tube. He had taken so much care. very much. Everyday daims were being made-for SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. the last two years we have been bearing DED (Parvathipuram) : As I rise to support these claims-that one of the most modern the motion that has ber-n moved by Prof. security force had been constituted where Dandavate, I must mention that I have sharp-shooter anu men of the highest order given notice for discussion of this motion to have been trained, and developed. They say censure the Government because I feel that all tbis but what are the facls? On 2nd the Government which has not been able to October wbat really happened was a person save the life of the Prime Minister is also bad been sitting in a hut built on tbe top of the Government which should have no right a concrete shelf and from there he shot to rule. My. young friend Shri Kumara thrice and at two moments of time ... mangalam said thllt because Prof. Dandavate (Jilte,·ruption). First time it was fired one had given it a form of censure motion, that hour and ten minutes before the second his intention was in one way or tbe other time. I am una ble to understand how the same as tbat of the terrorists. I do not security personnel are not able to recognise blame him. He was only demonstrating his the sound. Even if it is the sound of a 12 commitment to democracy and his love for bore small country made pistol, the sound the crown. We appreciate it. This was of a shot is a sound of a shot and thinking not an isolated incident. It was just two that it was the bursting of a tyre or thinking years ago. It is an irony of fate that just a that it was a cracker is one of the most couple of years ago, the late Prime Minister foolish things. It is important and it is Smt. Indira Gandhi wa~ the victim of her relevant. I am not speaking here in this own security men. What tuok plac.e at House just for tbe sake of speaking. I Rajgbat on 2nd October is not just yet would only Hke to ask why were the VIPs another isolated incident. It is one of those not whisked away after the first shot? Why events which forms a part of re.2uJated and were they not given protection ? There are organised move that is being carried on by major issues involved. It is not only the a section of people. We all know the is~ue as to why the assailant was not found, manner in which General Vaidya, onc ('\f the there is also the issue as to why were the most valiant soldier was gunned dpwll I VIPs not taken away from tbe spot by am told that the Home Secretary in Delhi 3S 1 Adjournmellt Motion NOVEMlJER 4, 1986 Adjournment Motion 352 [Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Deol It is not enough tbat you give enough had received information from the· Embassy training. The morale of the security people in Canada and the Gov\!cnment of Canada has to be kept very high. (should think that certain people were planning to that for sensitive posts like this there should assassinate General Vaidya, and tbat he had be proper screening. Do you have any a report from the Government of screening at all or not? What is the ba!iis Mabarashtra stating that and indicating to of this screening? These are. things which him what these elements wanted to do with we are concerned with an on this report which bas appeared in the newspapers that after the first shot was newspaper because be owes an explanation fired. the dog of the detective squad of the to tbis House. It is a very very serious police barked and ran towards the busbes matter and I hope he will specifically reply there. I want to know that if your security to this charge or the report which has people could not understand the ~ig(\al appeared in the newspapers. hy the dog then what was the use of their training? This is so simple. The trained I am told there was a person working dog proved to be more faithful than your as a Private Secretary to one of our former trained security men. But yeur security High Commis8ioners of India. He was men did not heed to his signal of faithful arrested by the British Governm-:-nt for ness. For bow long will you go on trusting smuggling he ran or whatever it is. Then such security personnel? be got diplomatic immunity and came back to India. Three British M Ps. have said AN HON. MEMBER Bairagiji, dog that they are aoing to raise it in the House is always faithful. of Commons, whereas we have brought him back and given protection to him here. SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI : You We have stated that he was one of our should not ta ke my point in a lighttr vein. informers. If this is the kind of informers I have an apprehension that while mak ing YOll had, then what kind of security can we further arrangements all the persons may expect? These are very very serious things remain present there and the dog may be especially in the present circumstances and withdra\\-n. When does this dog bark? they need clarification. The Government also has to he clear in its mind and state Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is a serious categorically w.hen such specificissues come matter and you should take it seriously. up before us because in public life it is not It may not happen that you may submit enough if you are clean and pure, but y.ou any report. in which the whole responsibility must also appear to he clean and clear to for the accident may be put on the dog and the public. you may say that as it was bound to happen_ tbat was the responsibility of the dog. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I do not want to take much .of the time of House. I support this Mr. Chairman. Sir, 1 want to tell hon. moti.on and I hope that the Home Home Minister, Sardar Buta Singhji that he Minister will make the p.oints clear and mayor may not present the report before give an assurance to the H.ouse and will ~o this House but if wrong training has into the r ...)ot .of the pr.oblem and see that been given to the dog tben it should be such incidents do nDt take place. stopped and if the pen;oft,ncl themselves were not trained properly then you should [Transfa fi 011] replace those persons. SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI As Shri Indrajit has said, it is tru~ that (Mandsaur) : Mr. Cbairman, Sir, on tbe it may destroy the very foundation of our basis .of reports published in tbe newspapers democracy. The incident of 2nd October and the discussion held on this serious reveals all the activities that are going on matter in this House, everybody asked a at international level. We should realise c.ouple of questions from the hon. Minister this thing. You cannot claim it as the f.or Home Affairs. I also want to draw his succuss of your security. This is the success attention towards a few small points Mr. of that failure which has occured due to Chairman, Sir, the failure of the assassin missing of the shot. Had it hit the trHgef. proved a bo.on for our country. His success it would have been I) great misfortune J would have been our greatest misfortune. tbank God for His grace. Thank God that He was kind to our Prime Minister on tbat day and saved him and be As has been said by alt hon. Members got a long life. Through this House, I repeatedly. I wou1d like to ttl! y.ou that want to attract the attention of the Hon. even people in r ural side a~k us for how Home Minister and probably he also might long this w.ould continue? Such qllerie~ ,Jlave ~oticed ~bat it was p~blisbcd ip ,~s:: "f~ made by tbe rural'people who lost all 355 AdjoufI'trlelft Motion NOVEMBER ... 1986 Adjournment Motion 3S6 {Shri Balkavi Bairagi] been anticipated. But what bappened? enthusiasm in their festivals after hearing As is evident, the assailant did not this news. 1 would like to ask the hon. experience any difficulty in tirina in spite of Minister in this House for how long such such a tight security arrangement. He, a situation would persist? I want a very conveniently was hiding himself at specific answer to it. We share the concern a point from where he made an attempt to ext)fessed by Prof. Dandavate. This is, kin. 'clearly a case of human failure and God's Mr. Chairman, Sir, it gives rise to a kindness. number of s'erious questions. The foremost question that arises is who conducted tbe Through this House, Sir, I would like search of the spot where that man was to request the hon. Home Minister to hiding and also of the entire premises. safeguard the democracy Qf this country The security arrangement stipulates that and assure this House and the people of search is not to be conducted by a single this country that their future is secure so agency or an individual. It is checked and that we could live in this country with counter checked a number of times. honour. Therefore, who were tbe persons who checked it and who were the persons who S'HRI ZAJNUL BASHER (Ghazipur): counter checked it? Even afler that if Mr. Chairman, Sir, by tabling the they were not able to spot that person the Adjournment Motion. Shri Madhu question arises as to whether there was some Dandavate bas not only expressed his own lapse in the security arrangement itself or concern but has offered an opportunity to was it all a pre· planned conspiracy? I do this august House to express the concern of not know whether persons responsible for the entire country. this have been interrogated or not? I do know whether such persons have been Two years ago, our form~r Prime ca tegorised as suspects or not? J do not Mini"ter Shrimati Indira Gandhi was know whether these people have been taken assassinated. The country was hardly (lUt into custody or not? Rut I do know of the a~ony of that murder when an this much, as has been said by Shri attempt has been made on the lif~ of our Indrajit GUJ)ta, and my common sense also present Prime Minister. says that such a thing could not have been possible without connivance, without a Uptil now, tbe whole country thought. conspiracy at some level by the people and an impression was given by the responsible for the security. To search out Government, the newspap.:rs and the somebody is a very simple task. A security magazines also that the Prime Minister of man in the lower ranks, even a policeman India is the most protected person at at the district level would he able to find present. But the incident on 2nd October out such a person whereas in this case the at Rajghat has proved that the security of ~ecurity of the Prime Minister was involved the Prime Minister collapsed like a house of and many trained and skilled personnel had cards. been deployed for this arrangement. Mr. Chairman. Sir, the shot on the Therefore, I do not think there has been Prime Minister was not fired on his way, any lapse in the security arrangement.. it was not l1re1 from a point where On the other hand I am of the view that security arrangement could have faiJed. . this lapse is a deliberate one and a big The Prime Minister was fired at from such conspiracy was at work. This should be a place where foolproof security investigated thoroughly and at a very higb arrangement could have been made. level. Otherwise, mere doing patch work Everyone knew that the President and the and then suspending an S.P. or Inspector, Prime Minister would go to the Samadhj transferring a Director General or Inspector of Mahatma Gandhi at Rajghat on 2nd General from here to there is not gOing to October. Everybody also knew the time solve this problem. (Interruptions) tbey were to reach there. The fact that a Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is the question very tight security arrangement of tbe se~urity of the Prime Minister. Just would be made could also h~v~ ~wo yean back, Wf; IQsl O\lf frimc M'inist~f 357 Adjournment Motloll KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 358 and this is tbe second attempt tbat has been checks in it. How did tbat man incruded made in two years. Another revelation into a place where even. a bird has no which bas come before \us-.. and many access? How did that rrian with lun reach people subscribe to this view-is tbat it is tbe Prime Minister, where even M.Ps just possible that the conspirators did not cannot go easily? This is a conspiracy want to kill the Prime Minister snd which must be exposed. Only a thorough instead wanted to show to the Indian inquiry will bring the faces to the fore. people that they would be able to kill With the grace of God, the Prime Minister their Prime Minister at a place of their was saved. We should express thanks to choice. If tbat is so, then it is a matter of God that no harm has been d·one to our shame for all of us and as Sbri Madhav Prime Minister. Today, the Prime Reddi has also said that all Indians. Minister is engaged in setting right tbe law particularly those responsible for tbe and order situation in the country. The security of the Prime Minister, should bang enemies of unity and integrity of the their heads in shame. The conc;pirators country know that with the killing of the want to show to tbe In~ian people present Prime Minister, the country will that they can kill their Prime Minister at disintegrate. Today. the Prime Minister a place of their choosing. These are is not merely an individual but is a symbol coercive tactics through which they want to of our national unity. They think tbat if dictate their terms. They can kill anybody this symbol is undone, the country will go at will and this security arrangement cannot to pieces. Further attempts on the life of prevent them from doing so. We cannot the Prime Minister can be made. The bon. brush this thing a side so easily. Merely Home Minister has to stop them and bas constit~ting a committee of a few experts to evolve the security system accordingly. or by saying that one agency did not have If need be, tbe security of the" Prime coordination with the other or that tbey Minister can be entrusted to the Army. bad a discord between them is not going to If the police is unable to provide security he of any use. Today, the people of India to the Prime Minister, entrust this job to are asking us as to what is happening in the Army. This Parliament and this Delhi? One Prime Minister was killed country is not going 10 tolerate any and attempts are being made on the life slackness in the secu fity of the Prime of the second Prime Minister. After all, Minister in future. V\'e can tolerate this what this Parliament is doing in Delhi 7 slackness no more. He must make This is the question that is being asked by security arrangement for the Prime the peopJe of India. We all have to reply Minister. to this question. This is not an ordinary question. The terrorist activities are With these few points, Sir, I conc1ude. spreading in all parts of the country, an atmosphere of hatred is being created in [Eng/i,h] the country and in such an atmosphere, the Prime Minister becomes most important for SARI N.V.N. SOMU (Madras North) : us. The Prime Minister is not only an Mr. Chairman, Sir, this Is the first time in individual. he is the dignity and the honour the history of India that an attempt has of the country; .he is the protector of the been made on the life .of tbe Prime Minister countr"y carrying the responsibility of the aod the President of India. Even after we entire nation on his shoulders. If such an lost our late Prime Minister Mrs. Indira incident has taken place in case of the Gandhi, the security Japses arc continuing. security of even the Prime Minister,. On 2nd October ]986 at Rajghat, the first it is really shameful. I would like to ask shot was fired at 6.45 A.M. The second the hon. Home Minister whether the persons shot was fired at about 8 00 A. M. Immedia responsible for the security of the Prime tely the third shot foHowed. After tbe first Mini~ter were interrogated or taken into custody for the so-called security 1apse or 16.00 brl. deliberate lApse, whatever it is? He has suspended one S.P. or Inspector. It is not shot was fired. an evasive attitude was taken only one Inspector who looks after this for nearly one and a quarter hours. Such work. There are checks ~nd counter a lethargic attitude should be cortdemnrd. 359 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Adjournmtnt Motion 360 (Sbri N. V.N. Somu) MR. CHAIRMAN: That is not correct. We should not allow sucb a lethargic Prof. Soz. attitude to be taken particularly l\fter we lost Sb;imati Indira Gandhi and otbers. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla) : Usually the security people search the place Mr. Chairman, Sir, Prof. Daodavate has 24 bours before the arrival 'bf any VIP. done the right tbing ••• But on that particular day, i.e., on 2nd October, the search was made only 13 16.03 bu. hours before. This should be noted. Who was responsible for that? Not only that, (MR. SPEAKER in the Chairl the President and the Prime Minister were again taken by the same route. It is said Mr. Speaker, Sir~ as I was saying, Prof. that security revamping is beina done. But Daodavate bas done the right thing and it seems that it is not properly done, nor he has rightly moved the Adjournment is it adequate. Luckily, our President Motion at the rigbt time. Today is the and Prime Minister escaped, and we are all first day of business for this Session, I happy about it. We ale now in tbe 40th heard your introductory remarks. But I year of our independence. Who is to take was dismayed when one or two colleagues tbe moral respoDsibility for such security there said that there was no need for this lapses '1 Previously HOD.. Minister O.V. Motion-I think, it was Prof. Kurien Alagesan t s resignation was demanded for a accompanied. by some one else. I differ train accident that took place in AriyaJur in witb them. We must be prepared to listen Tamil Nadu. Shri T. T. Krishnamachari to saner advice from whicbever Quarter it resigned over the famous Mundbra affair. may como. It was really a providential Therefore, the Home Minister should take escape for the Prime Minister and also the moral responsibility for this. After tbe the President. We do not know whether second incident of security lapse on 2nd the shot was aimed at only the Prime October, our Prime Minister has reshuffled Minis.ter. Things will come to Jigbt later. his Cabinet, but he has not changed the But It was providential escape and the pertfolio of the Homo. Minister. Perhaps, couotry heaved a high of relief. But such the Prime Minister expects that the Home episodes create a kind of insecurity Minister himself may set an example by throughtout the country. religning. A common mao feels that he is insecure Once again I reiterate that this kind of This is a motion which does not requir~ security lapse should not recur again and Jong speeches from me or from anyone else. Igain. The Government should takr; Perhaps, Prof. Dandavate and later Mr effective and immediate steps to cbeck this. Indrajit Gupta have already represented our feelings. In my mind tbere are one or MR. CHAIRMAN: Prof. Saifuddin two questions. which must be answered by Soz. Mr .. Buta Singh who is an ex.perienced Mintster. He must risc to tbe occasion and take us into confidence for once. AN HON. MEMBER: Where is Mr. Buta Singb '1 This is a common man's Question which SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE I am raising, which Prof. Dandavate, Mr (Bo)pur): He bas been called by the Prime Jndrajit Gupta and many others have raised· Minister's office. as to who is responsible for security. Ther; are so many agencies. I fccl pained to (Interruptions) express m~se1f here t~at there is some snag and there IS no coordlnatioD. We feel very MR.. CHAIRMAN: Prof. Soz. much concerned about it. Sometimes you may feel in a kind of mental aplomb to SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub .. express things in a Press Conference B t nalar): Sir. we arc only expressing our this is tb~ forum where you should ;xpre~s anxiety about tbe political survival of tbe your feehngs, where you should take us into Home Mipie~er. Sbri Jut. SID'~. 90nfidence. The guestiop is, wllo i, roe- 361 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 362 ponsible for security,? I win not go into dismissed within balf·an-bour because it details as to what agencies ate tbere, how was his mistake. One plane was leaving you organise your internal security etc. Heathrow "'bile another was, comins from Some people have found rault with the Munich. It was the Ground Engineer's concept of internal security. But to US, it mistake and be was dismissed from the is the Home Minister who is responsible. service. You may have ten Ministers in the Home Ministry, but it is the Home Minister who Here, it is the question of the security is responsible and we want to know as to of tbe PM. At some point of time he who is responsible for security of the represents the national wm, he is an impor President of India, of the Prime Minister of tant person. It is his security. Therefore, India, of the Hon. Speaker and other VIPs suspensjon is no punishment. You hold including the security of an of us. We somebody re$ponsibJe and puni~h him by receive from the Secretariat some documents dismissal or imprisonment. We shall not saying that these are the arrangements for participate in the drama of investigation but the M Ps. When our Prime Minister is we are genuinely interested in knowing what insecure, what to talk of an MP I is the punishment for those people who have committed dereliction of their duty. These So, we must know today from Mr. Buta are the two specific questions which must Singh as to who is responsible for security, be answered by the Home Minister. whatever the number of agencies involved. Prof. Dandavate had referred-to Mr. L. Secondly, what is the punishment for the P. Singh's Article which appeared on 2nd defaulter? I am not talking about the man October. J bad the privilege of reading who wanted to fire at the Prime Minister, tbat. He has mentioned about Pandit you wi)) dea] with him in the court Nehru that be would not like the security of law, you are now dealing with him. arrangements. He will go to the crowds. But my question is about tbe men wbo Peop le Joved him and he loved tbe people. have been posted on duty for the security But L. P. Singh tries to make us understand of the Prime Minister. Suspension is no that Mr. Nehru responded favourably to punishment. Actually suspension weaves certain arrangements. So, it should not be into the whole system a kind of corruption the Prime Minister who is to be worried and a kind of indiscipline. If I were in a about his security but it should be some position ot power. I would delete the word one person, maybe the Home Minister or he "suspension" from the annuals of adminis may deleaate the authOl i ty to someone ~ bo tration because after sometime or will be responsible for the Prime Minister immediately after suspension he will get 50% and the President's security. Mr. L.P. of his salary. He is then free to create all Singh is Dot an ordinary DIaD. He bas been kinds of indiscipline and pressure on you. in the Home Ministry for a long time. I He will move from door to door. After do not say that L.P. Singh is tbe only person sometime later, be will get 75% of his pay. who knows about security but 1 would U1timately wben he goes to the Court-this suggest to tbe Home Minister tbat Mr. L.P. is no reflection on the Court-in most of Singh and others-they may not be in the cases-I think Mr. Chidambaram must service but have retired-must be consulted. be knowing it better because he deals with such cases-in 99% of the cases the people Finally I want a full-scale movement in who were suspended are set free by the this country spear-beaded by Members of Court-whether it is the District Court or this House against terrorism, communalism the Higher Courts-and tbey receive that and obscurantism of aU shades. remaihing 25% also when tbey are re .. instated. [Tran,latlollj ' at tber- MR. SPEAKER: Very many thanks, You saw in Britan recent Iy th ... M S was a chance for air co1Hsion. That was. r. oz. averted by a pilot. He was rewarded and Tbe thina is that a burnt child dreads it was the mistake of tbe Ground Engineer the fire. Therefore, we have to be on our at tbe computer. He was summarily guards. 363 Adjournment MOlion NOVBMBER. 4. 1986 Adjournment Motioll 364 (Eng/i,ht their concern anti sigh of relief on the providential escape of Sbri Rajiv Gandhi THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Prime Minister of India. It will take ~ (S. BUlA SINOH): Mr. Speaker, Sit, long time to read tbe who]e list, but I would like to Jespond to this debate mentioning a few, massages were received which bas taken place in this House, today from the Chairman, PLOt Arafat. Fidel on a issue which is very very important, Castro,' tbe President of tbe United States which is of national importance and as a of America. the Prime Minister of matter of fact the destiny of tbe nation Australia aDd others. Secretary .. General is attached to tbis issue. Gorbacbov from the USSR spoke on the telephone and expressed the feelings of the Sir. the House bas very rightly people of the great Soviet Union and his responded to tbe gravity of tbe situation own feelings and shared the feelings of the arising out of this issue. Before I express people of India at this great relief. my thanks to Prof. Dandavate I must bow Similarly, the Prime Mioister of Canada, to you. You have sbown us the clear the Prime Minister of Mauritis, the Prime lead in voicing tbe inner-most feelings of Minister of Itally and many other world the country .. men in this august House. leaders, who are shaping tbe future of the whole world have expressed their com:ern Sir, you have been giving us this kind at this incident and sha(cd their feelings of leadership not only on this occasion with the people of India by sending their which, as I said, is tbe most important messages. occasion for the unity and the existence of the ...:ountry but also on maoy occasions of Now, some of the bon. Members-I vital importance to the country. think, onc of tbem was Shri Indrajit Gupta-said tbat we arc trying to hush up Sir, your words really set in the tone of the whole thing. It is far from that. Tbe the deba~e and the feelings and the ideas Government of India is not at all hushing that you have given through your brief up .the matter. Neither have we done it remarks will go a long way in making the in the past. nor we intend to do it. This country strong and fighting the forces of is not something which we would like to communalism and reaction. hush up, or we would like to cover it, or Sir. when I rise to respond to this offer defence. As I said, and most of the debate 1 do not have any feeling of hon. Members who participated in this winning points either from that side or debate. have expressed, this is not an issue from some of my colleagues who have very the importance of which bas to be rightly highlighted the serious lapses which minimised or we have to sidetrack the have come to light as a result of this 2nd issue. We must race the issue boldly October incident at Rajghat Samadhi. and the Government of lndia bas decided Dr. Swell spoke for everyone of. us when he and is determine~ to face the issue boldly. said that on such occasion~ this House bas We are not hushing up the issue in any demonstrated that whenever there is a manner. Therefore, I must say that we challenge to the unity, challenge to the share fully tbe concern and the shock of the strength of the country, the very life, the han. Members and the people of our .very existence of tbe nation, tbis country country at tbe attempt made on tbe life of knows bow to rally round and how to rise our Prime Minister on 2nd October at as one ~an. An ample proof bas come Rajghat Samadbi. out in today's debate. Also, I ha ve no hesitation in expressing Having said that, I must also place on tba ,t the Government has recognised the record in tbis august House the over se rlous lapses in tbe security measures whelming anxiety, feelings of sympathy with taken by t~e personnel of tbe agencies tbe country, witb the Ilation and with the connected wlth the Prime Minister's security great leader. Shri Rajiv Gandhi, which has and we deeply regret the same. be~n expressed by tbe leaders of almost all t he countries. A large number of Heads Now Sirt as regards the incident as on of States have sent their messaaes expressing record, I would like to share it briefly with 36S AdjQurnmeIJt Motion KARt1K.A 13, 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Mo'tion 366 this august House, although most of the Government and fonow up action is being press reports which has been mentioned. taken. This was, in sh\)rt, what happened have come to tbe Botice and knowledge of on that day and these, ~lUbsequently, were the hon. members. certain steps which were taken by the Government. Briefly speaking, at 6.54 A. M. the hone Prime Minister entered the complex and Now Sir, in cur country, we are living when be bad walked a few f~et, the in an open society. Ours is not a society miscreant fired the first shot. While the wbich is regimented or closed. As some Pfesident. the Prime M inbter and' others of the hone members mention, it is very were returning from the Samadbi after the difficult to guarantee 100 per cent foolproof the second shot tired fLlllction, was' at security. Even the recent hi~tory has about 8 A.M. In quick succession the shown us that in societIes like ours, third shot was tired. By this time, tbe incidents like this can happen anywhere VV I Ps had been taken out of the main any time. Our Prime Ministers gate of the Samadhi. The security officials have been treated as 'Afaltall lalla Nayaks, detected the presence of the mi~creant, right from Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru to opened fire, surrounded the area and Rajiv Gllndhiji. Our people's love and commended him to surrender. He jumps affection for them is so tremendous and it is down from the canopy and was apprehended difficult for any Prime Minister to work in by the security officials. He was arl ested. a box or in a very controlled situation. To start with, tbe miscreant first gave Our Prime Minister is the leader of millions his name as Manmohan Desai. He and millions of Indian peopJe and you subsequent Iy changed his name several know how they love him. OUf frcind from times. But on sustained interrogation, he Andlua Pradesh was u littJe sorry for the revealed his name as Karamjit Singh. son way in which OUf Prime Minister drives of Amar Singh resident of 388, Sahid his own vehicle. The Plime Minister is one Uddham Singh Road, Sunam District with them and people like their 1eader to Sangrur, Punjab. be like that only. ) do not know why our hon. member from Andhra Pradesh, Shri As a rcsu1t of this firing, six persons Madhav Reddi was very much agitated n:ceived minor pellet injuries. Threo of over it. Actually t this is what the people them belonged to police organisations. want their leader to be. They want their leader to be one with them. A case has already been registered at the Police Station Daryaganj under Section When I toured Andhra Pradesh along 307 IPC, read with sections 25, 27, 54 and witb late Sbrimati Indira Gandhi during 59 of the Arms Act and Sections 3/4 of the those days. which were very difficult days, Terrorist and Disruptive Activities we were Dot provided even a rest house, (Prevention) Act, 1985. Investigation of Sbri Dandavateji~ what to talk of security! the case has been entrusted to the CBI. It was the peopJe of this country, the After interrogation of the accused, four poorest people, tribaJs whom we caJl the more persons have been arrested in tbe case. most back ward, it was tbey who provided Tbe CBl is continuing its detailed probe security to Shrimati Indira Gandhi and into the matter. she used to sit with them in their Jhuggis and Jhompries and share Soon after this incident, a comprehen whatever little food they have in their huts sive review of the security arrangements from their own hands. Tbis is how for the Prime Minister bas been carried out the people of this country love their and measures to strenatben tbem have b.en leaders. taken. PROF. MADHU IJANDAVATE: They Bon. members also made a mention are more reliable. about the Inquiry Committee headed by the Cabinet Secretary. Tbey have gone into, s. BUTA SINGH: I agree with you. various facts relating to the case. This Therefore, we should not think that ('Ilf Committee has given its report only two leaders should work from glass-houses or days back and the report is with the in isolation. 361 Adjournment ,Motion NOVEMBElt 4, 1986 Adjournment Motion 368 S HRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Who the back.-up information. Sir, most of the said tbat? Nobody says so. Members' said that, there was bardly any coordination. At the moment, I would not S. BUTA SINGH: I do not think tbat like to go into tbe details of specific failures the country will expect our Prime Minister which is beina looked a(ter by the CBI, but to work lik.e. tbat and not even from a definitely the coordination machinery, the Co mobile van fixed with all tbe miscrophones ordination Cell or the coordination efforts and addressing system. It is not proper. are being strengthened and the arrangement is Therefore, the people of the country want being geared up to !'ee that the security guide their leader to be one with them. Our lines are very clearly well laid down. We Prime Minister is the real manifestation and have also to see that what is called a fail safe affection of tbe people. Sir, the hon. Mem procedure, is also built in case one stage ber Shri Madhu Dandavateji and many goes out of hand, the next sfage-the res" others wanted to know about the various ponsible people-takes the responsibility agencies looking after the security of the and makes it possible to see that ,as far as hone Prime Minister. possible, the foolproof security is 'provided. Sir, as you know, tbe system in our Sir, after this incident, as I mentioned, country was slightly modified in 1985, when in the accounts we did hold meeting and we this Special SPG was brought in, that when did consult all thOse who are concerned or ever the Prime Minister was moving inside connected with tbe security arrangements tbe country in Delhi or outside, it was tbe and we took short-term measures, immediate duty of the local police-whether it is the steps and also very detailed exercise. I am State Police or the Delhi Police-to provide sure, the hon. House w(luld not like me to tbe ground force, to provide with the spe)) out the details of the security arrange arrangements which wIll go into making the ments because 'it will no more remain a place, where the Prime Minister was to security arrangement, if the details are made attend a function or address the people. out in the public. Therefore, we are trying Also, there was a group of securitymen to see as to how best we can utilise the along with the VIPs who used to be exclu talents available within our own system and sively looking after the YIPs' problems. Of see that as far as possible, the security to course. the intelligence agencies' role is to the best satisfaction of the country and to provide advance intelligence, keep a watch the best satisfaction of the arrangements that during tbe functions and also post even the are to be made is provided to the VIPs. the intelligence systsm. This SPG was brought hon. Prime Minister, tbe President and the in, in 1985. The SPGs' role was, the pro Vice-President. tection of the Prime. Minister at his resi dence and otlkes in Delhi. approximate Some of tbe hon. Members mentioned a protection to him at all times, all places. few issues which have hardly any relevance This Special Force was created in the year to th~ situat.ion of that day. But there are 1985 as 1 mentioned. connected issues. Shri Iodrajit Gupta li, Sbri C. Madhav Reddi Ji t Shri Kishore Similarly, for the security of the Prime' Cbandra Ji and many other bon. Members Minister, NSG as such do not have a speci of Parliament tried to strike some kind of fic role. a personal note to me on tbis. In regard to the Prime Minister's secu I cherish the friendship of Sbri Indrajit ray, no specific role bas been assigned to the Gupta. Now about tbis resignation: I am NSG. NSG is conc~rned with combating sorry I have to comment on this. I tbought the terrorist activities as was mentioned by I will leave it to tbe better judgement of the one of my col1e(_lgues. When the Bill was bon. Members. But now that that hone introduced in this House, it was mentioned Members have mentioned this, J must also that the NSG is concerned with combating give my feelings 00 this point. My feelings the terrorist activities. However. wherever on this point are these - I think Shri nel:e,-;sarv. the assistance j~ sought from the Indrajit Gupta will share tbem with me. If N SO. The int,elligeuce agencies as I said I am known for anything, 1 would like to be provide tbe advance intellisence and also known for my dedication to my duty. I 369 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 370 remember a Persian couplet wbich goes like clandestine stories have been planted earJier, this: and today also. If you give me permission, Sir, on some other occasion I would like to l4anheman basham kehrooz-e ..Jungbinl join issue. but not on this occasion, because pU,fhteman it is hardly relevant here. J can only say Aamnam khan darml yane khak that it is totaUy baseles,s, fabricated, . khovinl sare. slanderous, and there is no truth in it. Which means that I am the one who would Coming back to the debate, I should say Dot like to be known as one who ran away that tbe whole country will take the sense from the battle field. I am the one who and the spirit of the debate, the way in would like to be seen as one whose dead which the debate has been conducted, in the body is rolliog in blood and dust, before whole House from both sides of the House anybody can put his step on tbe sacred soil under your benign leadership; and I am sure, of his motherland. tbis will generate a spirit of re-dedication to the country's unity, to tbe country's strength. It is in this spirit that I take it. Let us and the people of tbe country will rise. not be in a lighter vein. I would like the hone House to really feel, rcal1y also be one Shri Indrajit Gupta and Shri P.R. with me. My feelings are tbat if I bave to Kumaramangalam mentioned a very reatly prove my worth, then I should like to important point that we should trv to fight lay down my life for the protection, for the these forces of reaction, the forces of service of my country, and for serving my disintegration, the forces of communalism leader, than running away from the bat tie. jointly. I must say, we have been hearing The other things are not in my blood, they reports from Punjab of kiIJing of innocent are not in my teachings. Therefore, I would .people, of many maoy things, horrible things like hon. l\1ernbers to realize this. happening in Punjab, but one silver Jining is there in Punjab. )0 Punjab, all the political Some of the hon. Members were saying parties-I must place this on record that this act itself has been taken in a lighter Communist Party, CP(M), BJP. Congress vein: the type of arms provided, the way he (I), all the political parties jointly have been has done it etc.-these are not the things to going to the people. Lots of our comrades be taken so lightly. It was an attempt on are killed by these anti-socia1 enemies'of the the life of the Prime Minister. The fellow country, terrorists; and in Punjab, there is a is known to have committed crime before he joint effort in cooperation wjth the Govern did this. It has been established that he ment of the State. The people are fighting. bas links with the organizations which are What we need is that· the country must known for such acts. realise that tbis is a situation in which a sustained effort has to be made, in which a The hone Members brought in the angle determined effort has to be made, aDd these of foreign countries' involvement. Who evil forces, black forces will he rooted cut does not know what is happening in Punjab from the soil of our sacred Motherland. We and what is happening in other parts of the will leave no stone unturned in this issue country; the powers who do not want to see also. I can assure this august House that India as one of the strongest nations in this we have taken a serious note, not only a part of the world are indulging in all kinds serious note, we have taken upon ourselves of theRe anti-national acts, sabotages, finish this challe.nge; and I can assure that God tbe-nation acts. I am not bere to comment forbid, I should say God fo,rhid. and I am on these, because the whole thina is at the happy also that today a top ranking moment under investigation; and tbe communist leader has also remembered God authorities are investigating it. in tbis House. (Interruptions) God Bnd providence both. Shri Jndrajit Gupta. I am One hone Member also tried to bring in a firm believer. I join the august House in a suhject which has hardly any relevance directing their prayers, their good wj"hes for with it. i.e. reading out some report which the safety and long life of our great Prime has been published today. This is not the Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, in whose hands first occasion; $ucb scandals, such the "nity ~nd the strength of the c('untry 371 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Adjournment Motion 372 [So Buta Singh1 Sir, quite a good number of members lies. With these words, I would request who spoke in the House in tbe debate said Prof. Daodavate that, keeping in view the that Our Prime Minister survived by spirit of th\! whole discussion-we are not providence. If the Prime Minister of the opposed to your adjournment motion; it is country. who is the highest executive, has to a weapon given to the opposition in a survive by providence. not by design, but he parliamentary democracy; we do not grudge survives merely by accident, if he survives ... it-you kindly do it. But one thing I (Interruptions) would like to request that please don't try to tone down the spirit generated as a result AN HON. MEMBER: By accident. of your debate in this House and don't press for it. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I am sorry; he is violently agreeing with me. An tnat I was saying was that the exe SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Can I say if highest cutive of the country, the Prime Minister bas one or two things about the points which to survive by providence, he survives by the were raised bere. As a matter of fact, one law of probability, I do not know what will was not mentioned by me but by several be the fate of the common man in the members and they said that some prior country and ri~htly each one of us including information had reached from some sources, of the other side, particularly some of your agencies that an attempt or the Members Basheerji who very strongly spoke, he said, something was going to be made. Is there "Please ten us why the security had faiJed''_ any fact in that? (2) How is it about other lapses? That you can look into. How is Secondly. we had asked a number of it that nobody searched the area before questions but tbey have gone unreplied under these people went there? How is it that the plea that the investigations are going on. nobody was sure that somebody was hiding The point is then, your admitting this tbere or not? It is a very elementary thing. Adjournment Motion is of no use. But I want to ask one thing, which is again SHRI D1NESH GOSWAMI : And based on the article of L.P. Singh in which thirdly. tht.!fc was a report that there was a he said. I had quoted it, that sources very photographic account of this incidence which close to security officers had indicated that was era~ed. Is- it a fact that that photo w intelligence had already signalled even the graphic account of this incidence was erased, assassination of the former Prime Minister. because, that was important for. the purpose SbrimFUi Indira Gandhi and the same of this investigation? question was raised about the intelligence giving the news regarding thi~ particular S. BUT A SING H: Precisely. I myself episode. It is very important because it is did not take up these two points because not only about tbe past, hut it is also about the lapses on which CBl agencies are the future. But nothing has been said looking into it~ we will not spar..: these about it. lapses; these are very serious lapses and they have come to the notice of the government, The third point is that when I was in but they are part of the enquiry. About Nagpur I came across a very cynical that photographic accollnt, Sir, I can say reaction with which I do not agree, that it only one thing, the fact which the hone was obvious that checking of that elevated memher has brought to my notice, this was structure was not done and at the same time something which is alleged to have happened the weapon that was used was a country on the spot and the report has appeared in made pistol or gun. From this they feel the newspaper about tbis photograph being that there might be a collusion between some erased. This wilt also be enquired into. disatisfied elements in the security forces and that man and whether this was a force by PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. arrangement among themselves. Even this Speaker, Sir very briefly, I would like to t comes up. I do not want to the level of reply to what the hon. Minister ha~ said the person» but in tbe J1ast also once it had hefore you take the voting on the adjourn happened that some personality was ment motion. ,upposed to ~e fired at and la'~r on tbcf 373 Adjournment Motion KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion 374 had some ideas and it did not happen. It this episode is Dot being enquired urider the happened that way but the entire credibility Commissions of Inquiry Act; otherwise, there of tbe Government and the entire security would have been a danger that just as two forces had heen disturbed, and they disput"d other reports are JikeJy to be suppressed, their credibility. And, therefore, this aspect even tbis repor' would be suppressed in the should he taken note of very carefully. interest of the entire nation. Sir, many members on the other side SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE asked that thefe should be a discussion You have given them ideas. Now they will under Rule 193. What was the propriety convert it into the Commjssions of Inquiry of an Adjournment Motion? Sir, I mince Act. no words. I mentioned it in tbe Business Advisory Committee yesterday, that this is PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I am the greatest failure since this Government not a lawyer like my friend. Therefore, came into being and if the Prime Minister without having any inkling of the legal and the President's Jives cannot be protected position I innocently gave out the truth. and they can be treated 'in such a casual rnanner- I am not alleging X or Y for S. BUTA SINGH: We only take good this-this is the greatest failure of the ideas and not bad ones. Government and it deserves to be censured and that j~ why this Adjournment Motion PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I has been moved. But in such adjournment swear by the Gita that I did not mean motions not only people some times speak anything bad. Therefore. this is the aspect with the same voice, some times they exercise which reany troubles our mind very much. their voice of conscience and I Quoted intervening once, that when the Defence and 'I must conclude by referring to the War p81icy of England were found to l)e point which has been raised by my friend. wrong,· there were members of the I want to clarify tbat point. The Prime Conservative Party and ~fter' the Adjourn Minister invited us for some consultations. ment Motion moved by an opposition But we feel tbat certain important issues member Ht'rbert Morrison carne up, which are burning issues which are to be consequently, on his own, the Prime raised on the floor of the House, the day we Minister said, "I go, I accept my are raising those issues we should not discuss responsibility". I am, not demanding that. them outside either with the Speaker or But my concept is that this is something. to with the Prime Minister. That is why. we YOll. be censured and jt must be brought on did not trouhle Sir, and we did not record that this House really feJt like want to trouble the Prime Minister. But censuring the <3·ovcrnment. any way, we may trouble him in future when the agenda is there. There was another point and everybody THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- raised it. There wa.!; a controversy about MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER the various ag('ncies and I close tTlY reply OF FOOD AND C1VIL SUPPLIES (SHRI with only one reference. (Interruptions) H.K.L. BHAGAT): I do not want to ~et into that matter. He wrote- me a leiter and The enquiry of this entire tpisode is not I wrote him back. We could have discussed being conducted under the Com~jssjons of any issuf' tbey liked. PM invited them any Inquiry Act. Because, now they have very time. They could choose the isguc of their systematics lly provided that if they feel that liking. It was marle clear to them. But in the i.nterests of the country, in the you had your own reasons for keeping off. interest') of the good neighbourJy relations, Let us not 'get into that now. and in the intrtests of peace if they feel that a particular Inquiry report is to. be PROF. MAOHU DANDAVATE: Any suppressed they will ~urpress it. of course, way~ Parliamentary Minister does not under by taking a vote of this House, by the stand my argument. Our parliamentary absolute majority they have, and they will impropriety, I cannot help 1t. I conCt'de carefully suppress it and give it a very to him the fllndamebtal right of i~norancQ varcful burial. I am bappy that at lea~t ~uar~nteed ~y t~~ ConstihltiOQ, 375 Adjournment Motion NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Cltlzen$hlp (Arndt.) Bill, 1986 376 SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT : My difficulty PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE: I is tbat I understand it and bis difficulty is can assure you that I do not want tbat be does not understand what be is to reply to the reply of the repJy. saying. All tbat I will. say. let UI not invoke the Dame of Mrs. Gandhi. I attended s. BUTA SINGH: Hon'ble Professor every meeting as leader of the lanata Party bas got this argument at the rag end of the and every time we were told which particular debate. He, perhaps. bas second thoughts. purpose she had invited us and we discussed Earlier be did not produce this. But my the issue threadbare. We never complained friend, Madhav Reddi, produced a that she kept quiet. Sbe spoke a lot, we wonderful argument while speaking on this spoke a lot. Only our sound was different. issue. Therefore, forgetting this side-tracking, I come back to the adjournment motion. Why did they not go to tbe Prime Since tbis is a major failure by tbe Govern Minister ? I remember beca use I have been ment and the greatest lapse on the part of here for quite some time. When Shrimati the security machinery, as a censure of the Indira Gandhi used to call the leaders of Government, I insist on moving the adjourn tho Opposition~ tbey would say : ment motion. I request you to put it to the vote. (Tranl/atlon] MR. SPEAKER : The question is : "We went on speaking and speaking but sbe did not speak. Tben wha t purpose "That tbe House do now adjouro" is served by going tbere. Now they have said tbat the present Prime Minister goes The motion was negatived. on speaking and we dO,not get a chance to speak. Earlier tbey did not use to attend the meetings because she' used to listen patiently now they do not attend the MR. SPEAKER: Now we will take up meetings because the present Prime Minister next item. item No.9, Bill for introduction. explains tbe position in detail, this is the . Shri Buta Singh to move for leave to argument of Prof. Dandavate. He did not introduce tbe Bill. attend tho meeting this time because he was apprehensive tbat- 16.50 brl. (Engl/shl CITIZENSHIP (AMENDMENT) BILL·, 1986 -important issues will get diluted. If you . take aU other previous occasions, we used to have a very fruitful [Fnglish] discussion, exchange of views; Government's stand used to be told to the hon. leaders of THE MINISTER OF HOME tbe opposition and hOD. leaders of the AFFAIRS (S. BUTA SINGH) : Sir. I beg Opposition used to have their points made to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to tbe Prime Minister and we used to sort to amend the Citizenship Act, 1955. out the issues. A new turn bas been given by Prof. Dandavate to tbis argument. Of 16.51 brs. course, this is the prerogative of the hon. leaders of the opposition. But I think. the (MR. DEPUTY SPBAKPR In the Chair] hon. Prime Minister has opened a new pbase to our parliamentary democracy where SHRJ BASUDEB . ACHARfA : we, the ruling party and the opposit.ion, can (Bankura) : Sir, I rise to oppose tbe intro sort out issues of national importance by duction of the Citizensbip BiJJ, 1986. It has litting together, by jointly discussing the been stated in the Statement of Objects and issue. This was a healthy practice"· Reasons tbat a large number of persons of --~ ------.-- .--.' ~--" ...... -~------~------"' ., ...... ~ ....------...... _.--_ ... - - ...... > ~----••~ ••• • Pobllsbed. In Oazettee . of 'ndia Extraordinary, Part II, Section 2 dated 4.'1.1986 •. 317 Citizells/Zip (Amdt.) Bill. KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Citi.zeltship (Amdt.) 378 1986 Bill. 1986 Indian origin have entered the territory of India. Another· category of perSODa bas India from Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and some been thought of,. namely, those who will be African countries and thus there is a born after tbe commencement of this Act. necessity for amending tbis Citizenship Act They will not be auto'¥tically the citizens which is prevailina for a number of years of India, unless one of their parents at least after Independence. The citizenship can is a citizen of India at the time of tbe child's . be acquired not only by birth but at birth. I would request tbe bon. members the time of birth the parents also on the other side not to go on raising, hands should have the citizenship of India. without understanding implications of it. A Why there is a necessity to amend this distinction is being made and discrimination Act? Why the Government cannot seal is being made only on the basis of the date the borders to cbel:k the infiltration for of birth-prior to the commencement of which there is a· necessity to amend this tbis Act or after the commencement of this Citizenship Act? So, I think there ia no Act. Thi~ is the sole discriminating feature. necessity to amend tbe prevailing Act by The Minister bas wide and deC'p knowledge which the citizen~hip is acquired only by of Jaw, tbe ramification of tbe Acticle 14 of birth, and that is why, I oppose tbe introduc the Constitution of India, I take it. There tion of this Bill. bas to be a distinguishing feature and many of tbe Members may not have beard MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion that ~xpression- having nexus to the object moved = of the Act, apart from tbe question of classification which is important, this "That leave be granted to introduce selection of al bitrary date. The hone Minister a Bill further to amend the Citizenship wants to know what is the Constitutional Act, 1955." infirmity? We cannot decide the Con stitutional iafirmity. I do not accept his version as the last word in the law of tbis Shri Sornnatb Chatterjee. Brief state- country, not even the Law Minister who is ment. prone to mislead others on the points of law. Therefore, I want to place it before SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE the House because tbe Members of the (Bolpur) : The size of the Bill is brief but House have a right, not as a judicial forum tbe implications are not brief. So, have but as Members of this House to consider a little patience. whether the proposed law infringes any provision of the Constitution of India. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Discussion Article 14 of the Constitution has been we can have afterwards. held to be the real s~.:)Ul of the entire Constitution of tbis country. because it is SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : again an arbitrariness. It is against This is one opportunity open to us under unjustified discrimination between a citizen the rules and I want to utilise that. I have and a citizen, a person and a person. One given notice in time. Before 1 have started, thing must be kept in mind. The question you started int~rveDing, even before tbe of Article 14 discrimination does not relate Minister. What is tbis intention,' I do not to citizens only. It is different from Article understand it. Please listen and try to 19. These are. matters whicb should be understand. Jooked into. Therefore, apart from the inhumane aspect of tbis legislation, it is Sir, the Bill purports to amend a very almost showing callous disregard for people who are in trouble, Have you seen tbe important section of the Citizenship Act It which has been there since the year 1955, Statement of Objects and Reasons? says: namely, a person born in this country. after our Republic came into force" would be "A large number of persons of automatically a citizen of India. Now a Indian origin have entered the territory distinction is being made that tbose born up of India from Bangladesh, Sri Lanka to the commencement of this proposed and some African countriea and they Amendment Act-we do not know wben- are residina in Iodid. ,. They aro, 'be)' wilJ become automatically citizcOl of commitin. crime, 3'19 Cilizellship (Amdt.) Bill. NOVl1MDBR 4, 1986 Citize:tship (Amdt.) Bill. 380 1986 1986 [Shri Somnatb Cbattcrjeel divisioo and distrust among tbe people of this p.ersons of Indian ofiaia wbo arc forced country and tbose people of Indian origin to come to tbb country. are they commit\Ina whom ~ou wish to deprive citizenship on the basis of an arbitrary date. The attitude of , crime 1 Tiley are ~ot aeHing automatic the Government in tbat respect, as 1 see itt benefit of Citizenship if tbey are nOL citizens of ibiS country. l'he law is inhuman and I oppose the introduction provides it. Somebody. tbe' parcnts or of this BiU on that sraund also. anyone of them, may be or may not be SHRJ MANU( SANYAL (JaJpaiguri): cltiz.~n of India. but may be Slay ina ,for Sif. J rise to oppose the introduction of years, lhey are Indian nationals and tbe child Citizenship (Amendment) Bill. born to them will automatically acquire citizenship. He does not ·have to bother wbo lS born, woo ,,~t the bl'st taste of air I am 0ppo:iing tbe Bill because it would and life in this country. At least he would disturb Ute well established law pertaining be given fliht ot' citizenship automaucahy. to citizenship rigbt of tbe people. ThiS was Dot mDovaliOD by tbe Government ot' India 10 1955. Most of tlle countries lost~ad of disposing the applications or in ~lle wudJ pruvide lor automatic confir ccJS~S (c&anhug. citizenship light, thJS ment of citizenshIp on birth 10 the country. Amendment, If passed by tbe HOUl:ie would M\.)sl o~' the coumue:; 1U the world do It. create more problems espccialJy in tbe If l>lallsti\;s IS taken, a surv&;y is made, present context. additional Clibts are provided viz., acquisition of ciliz.ell~tup on the ba:))s of the ualionality Tne pcuposed Bill intended to take away of tbe cltil.easblp of the parents. Therefore. the natural Jaw of guarding tbe citjzcn~hlp ale SUI rendenog you merely to chauvinistic fight by bil to and it has made it conditional, fo[ces. It has brou~1lt our country people which 1 bcheve would be a source 01' con not together. it ma.ue the people draft fusion and create distl ust amongst the from eacb other. It has encouraged forces people. That is way I am opposing tbe of Chvlsiveness io this country as also the introduction of tblS BIll. forces of reaction in tbis country. Toe hon. Home Minister, while replyina SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond to tbe debate or participating in tbe adjorn" Harbour): Sir, I rise to Oppose the intl'O ment motion made an appeal. dqction of tbis Bill 00 tbe aTouud lhat it violates the ,letter aod tbe spinl of the Constjtution. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER " Please wind up. You are going on dragging. On what ground are you objecting. you have to Sir. it appears that if this Bill is enacted, state that 1 You are going on speaking it is quite possible tuat from the same like tbis as if in a debate. parents rasiding in India but nOl citizens of India one child who bas beel} born before SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: tbe date of commencement of the Bill wi)] Sir , I have not yet spoken 00 the merits. be an In,dian cHjz~o and another child born Please allow me as a Member to complete subsequently will oot be Indian citizen. the sentence. Tbis is the fUrlnic:st kind of BHl we havo seen. Sir, I do not think the, people who bave drafted this BtU have gone tbrough it MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER J wiJJ allow you at the consideration stage, not properly and what consequ~nces it wjlJ have. now. they have not 8000 into it. The fact tbat dis .. crimination bas already been made has been mentioned by Mr. Somnath Chatterjee. ) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: am not goins into it, but tbese consequences 1 haw seen, and we bave many experiences. should bave been tbought out and this Therefore. I am asking the hon. Home kind of a Bill sbould not have been MiniRter to kindly tell this House whether brouab without proper consideration and this is 8 Bill which will cement the people this is the stage at which Ibis DiU should be logeth~r or it will create greater and areater witbdrawn. 381 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill, KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Citizenship (Amdt.) 38~ 1986 Bill, 1986 SHRI ANIL BASU (Arambagb) : I at the commencement of the Con:,titulion, rise to oppose tbe introduction of this citizenship of certain persons who bave Citizenship (Amendment) Bill because it migrated to India from Pakistan. citEzenl)hlp goes against the very spirit of the Con~ti of persons who have migrated from India tution. It is a fuuny Bill as stated by my to Pakistan, cUiz~nsblp of p~rsons resldlDM colleague, Mr. Amal, Dt1tta that a child outside India. In aruch: 1 J, a paramount born earlier to this Will be granted Indian power bas b~en given to Parliament to make cilizen~hip and tLle chlld boro after this any prOVISion with respel:t to the acquisitIOn Amendment will not be granted citiz~nshlp. and termination of citizenship and an other This is a funny thing allU thiS IS against tbe ,matters reJallllg to citizenship. Article 11 natural justice and 'by tbis Amendment starts wilb tbe "nolwith~tandi[lg" clause. Hill we will create homeless and stateless ·'NuUuug iu tbe turegoing pro pl.!ople and that w1l1 create much trouble to ViSIons ot Ull~ Part ~haJJ derogated from this country in future also. That is wby 1 the power oj Pal harnent to make any am oppoing the introduction of this Bill. prov ISIO:1 ••• " SHRI ANANOA PATHAK tL>arjecHng) : Pdrlic1meut has absolule powt:r to make Sir, I beg to up pose the introductiou uf thiS CILJzcu~hlp laws auu noltHu~ III Ul Ul,;h::, :> to 1.h11 be~ause it takes a way tbe fight of the 1U WHI c1ti't;~l arllch: II. In fa~L. lblS l>arha people who want tu a4,;llULH.! Citizenship fight fileul nas mailc the CllI.lcllshlp Ad 01 lY55. by ,birth. Se..:undly, I find that if thiS Bill is 1 De A~l has bl.!ell am~lhjcd h om time to passed, it Will give a handle to the separatist tUllC anu today we alc bnnglllg anQth~r fon.:cs like the liorkha NatIonal Liberation' ame.odmclll tu tour pi UVI~iOUI> ot lhal Act. Front whil,;h nas raised so many questions '1 DC puw~r 1~ tilere III allJ~le 1 j. ') ou can Dot regardiug the citIzenship fight of the NepaJese 4ucbuon the POWtf. Theu~ he said assuollllM people and they are mssleadlOg the people tbat the power I!) Ult:n:, is It uot a Hill on the question of cltizenshlp nghts. T~lere appartntiy, III vlolauon 01 anicle 14 of the fUIC, ~Ir, j very, vehementJy oppOse the Con~tllutlOn. My ::'Ublll1~~IOU l~, it IS not, introduction of thiS I:hll and j request the anO we h,l\'C Dol VlolalCO Arl. 14. In fact, Government to Withdraw this Cuizcosbip the" inhuman characler whi~h be attnbutes (Amendment) Bill. to the Bill wuulu be there only, If we enact 'IHE MINJS1LR Or STAlE IN THE thIS HIU rctrospl;Cll veJy. You cannot aileet a MINISTR Y OF PEH.SONNbL PUBLIC child Who was born yt;stcrday or who was GIUEVANCES' AND PENSIONS AND bm'n a mOULD callier. What lS 11lls Bill '1 MINISTRY OF STATE IN THE We have one of tbe most liberal ciLizenl>hip laws III the whoJe world. In today's hiw MINISTRY OF HOME AFI'AIRS (SHRI t P. CHIDAMBARAM): Mr. Deputy the father need not b~ a CIlJZli:l1; mother need Speaker, Sir, as 1 understand the only not be a cHlzcn; uCllhcr of them even may want to become a citizen of tbis country. objectioll wbich can be raised at thiS ~tage NCllheI' ot' them Illay appJy for naturahsa is whether there is au appar~nl Constitu tional infirmity in the Bill. Just as my hOD~ tion. Merely because tbe child is born in India, tne child automatically acquires the friend has said, we cannot at this ~tage deci de upon tbe Constitutionality. We cannot flgbt of citizenship. Tbat is tbe law today. dec ide. It is for the courts. So, tbe question What we are saying now is, we cannot confer Citizenship cbildren who are ,~, is there all apparent Constitutional on Hnfirmity. My bumble submission is. kindly merely born in this country without even see what is the provision of the Constitution one of' tueir parents expressing an intention under which we are making this Bill and or desire to become a CUlzen of India. What whether it enables us to make such a Bill. we are saying is, If one of tbe parents is The question whether it is a good BiU or a an Indian citizen. automaticaJJy the child bad bill, whicb bas to be improved or will be Indian cJtiz~n. How many other whether the Bill should no~ be passed, it is countries have a law where father is not a matter for the later stage of the debate. citizen, mother IS not a citizen; neither of them applies for naturalisation; neIther Now, what are we doing 1 Articles 5 to wants to become a citizen; but the chiJd who 10 of the Constitution deal with sp~cific is born to them will be a citizen 1 In India, aspoets of citizenship relatins to citizenship tbe child become:; a cili~n. UIJlerl UPliolls) . . I 383 Matters Ullder Rule 377 NOVEMBER 4, 19~6 Matters Under Rule 377 384 (Shri P. Chidambaram) State Gover.lbcnt have established Courtesy requires you to bear" me Orissa Power Generation Corporation for patiently. I did not interrupt you. Arguments execution of tbe project. The Corporation of law cannot be advanced by interruptions. has taken up infrastructural preliminary work like Jand acquisition, water suppJy, What )OU say is, clause (a) and clause (b) make a distinction. Anybody who is born power supply, road. construction of statl' before tbe Act will not be affected, because quarters etc. at a total estimated cost of the Act caonot be made retrospectively. 'Rs. 32 crores. born after the Act, if one of the . Anybody The State Goveullnent have furnibhed pro parents is a citizen, the child will be an posals to tbe Central uovernment fOf financial Indian citizen. This does not affect tbe assistance from the new scbeme of floatation naluralisation procedure. The Third of bonds and equipment credit from [orelln Schedule is still in~tact. Hon. Members are equipment supplies. The proposals received not reading the whole Act. The naturaltsa from different lOlcigu equipment suppliers tion procedure still be there. On will have also been furnisbed to Government of domicile rights, if you bave domicile for a India for selcc'ing any ooe of the proposals certain number of years you can still apply alongwith the floatation of bonds. Govern for naturaHsation. What we now atrect is ment of India have. however, replied that the automatic right of citizenship, not the the scheme of floatation of bonds would Dot right to uaturalisation. There is no infirml[Y be extended to State Government Organisa in this A~t. It squar\!1y stands the test of tions. But tbeir decision on selection of - Article 14. Of course, we will hear the forei¥D equipment supplier is still awaited. suggestions of hoo. Members and 1 am sure Tbis project for which all preliminaries have tbat if tbe suggestions arc good, Government been completed' should be expeditiously would accept them. cleared by the Planning Commission and the funding pattern should be approved by MR. OEPU fY SPEAKER " The Ministry of Finance and Ministry of Energy question -is ; by selectin& the foreign equipment/credit supplier. " Chat leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Citizenship (ii) .Need to condemn the attack on the Act, 1955." life of Prime Minister aod take stern steps for Prime Minister's The motion was adopted. security SHRI SOMNATH RAtH (Aska): The s. au r A SINGH : Sir, 1 introduce tbe country has heaved a si&h of relief that tbe BiH. Prime Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi was not harmed by the attempt on his life at Rajghat where be bad gone to pay homase to the 17.10 brs. Fatber of the Nation on the occasion of Mahatma Gandhi's Birth Anniversary on MATTERS UNDER RULE 317 2ud October. The Prime Minister has reacted in a manner tbat befit~ the leader of the nation but that does not mean that the gravity of tbe incident should be minimised (i) Need to clear Ib Thermal Project or the seriousness of the tragedy averted In Orissa should be overlooked. A full picture has not emcrsed yet out of enquiry. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOt (Sambal pur): In order to meet the power shortal!je The incident denotes serious lapses in in Orissa, there is a proposal to set up an regard to the Prime Minister's security. Two Ib Thermal Project in the State sector during years ago, on' the last day of another the 7f h Plan. The Project is proposed to be October. Smt. Indira Gandhi was assassinat loc:lted in Sambalpur district. According to ed. And aaain, in October of this year, the phasing of the project, the first unit is to there is dastardly attempt on the life of our be commissioned in 1990. beloved Prime Minister. 385 Matters Under Rule 377 KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Matters Under Rule 377 38ll I would request all the members. of the affected by a fatal disease, 'silicosis·, House to join with me in condemning the thousands of labourers engaged in cottioa attack on the life of tbe Prime Minister and stones from tbe slates in the stone factories I also urge that stern steps should be taken in tbe hiJI areas, have died and in tbe so as not to allow aoy such attempt to be absence of any treatment, thousands more repeated. are in the grip of this disease. In Mandsaur alone in Madbya Pradesh [Translation] the number of sllch labourers is 8,500. The State Governments have become a]most (iii) Demand ror Increase in transport desperate in this issue. Wit bout special and su.bsldy 10 the hilly districts or adequate assistance from the Centra) Govern Uttar Pradesh ment. it is impossible to get rid of this horrible disease. This disease has started SHRJ HARISH RA WAT (Almora): spreading in this sorrounding areas of these Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, due to existing factories a]so. The Centra I Government. geographical difficulties and lack of rail should launch a country-wide movement to transport facilities etc. in the hill areas of eradicate silicosis. the country tbe Central Government provides 75 per cent transport subsidy for (v) Demand to protect tbe carpet industry transportation of commodities to and from in tbe country tbe industries situated in these areas to remove hindrances coming in the, the way of SHRI UMAKANT MISHRA industrialisation. This policy has remained (Mirzapur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in uniformly applicable to those hill areas of. addition to Mirzapur, Bhadohi and their the country which have been recognised as surrounding areus, the hand-made carpets 'hill areas' by the Planning Commission. are produced in Kashmir, Hyderabad, Shahjahnpur etc. However, 75 per cent of Considering the present transport subsidy its production and export is confined to as inadequate for glvmg irnpetus to MirzapuT. Bhadohi and the sonounding industrialisation in these areas. I have been areas. About 12 lakh peopJe from my repeatedly demanding that the Quantum of constituency and the nearby areas like the transport subsidy for the industries 'Jaunpur, Allahabad, Rewa etc. get employ situated one thousand mete res above sea ment in this industry. Present1y the industry level should be increased from 75 per cent is passing through a phase of crisis. The to 90 per cent. . main raw material for the carpet industry is the sheep wool. The sheep wool and wool I was surpried to see that whereas this fibre have become costly. The reason for subsidy has been increased to 90 per cent this is that live sheep and mutton are being for the other hill areas. hill areas of Uttar exported and the wool produced in country Pradesh, speciaUy Almora, Pitboragarh, is being smuggled out. The incentive money Chamoli, Pauri, Uttar Kashi and Tebri have on the type of carpet being produced in been deprived of this benefit. larger QtJantity and being exported has been reduced and the rate of interest on the bank I, therefore, urge the Minister of loans as comrared to other countries is Industries that the transport subsidy should higher. It is requested that following steps be increased fro~ 75 per cent to 90 per cent should be taken by the Government to in the case of these hill districts of Uttar protect the carpet industry: Pradesh also. 1. The export of live sheep and (Iv) Neressary steps needed to cherk mutton shou1d be banned and large tbe spread of 'Sillco4Jis' disease scale incentives should. be provided particularly in ~ Maodsaur district for sheep-rearing and wool or M.P. production in hi1Jy areas and forest districts. . SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI (Mandsaur) : 2. The Carpet Association shou1d he Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir t bavins beep permitted to import wool utld~,r 387 Matters Under Rule 377 NOVEMBER 4,1986 Matters Uncler Rule 377. 388 [Shri Umakant Mishra] thousand tobacco barns were damaged due O.O.L , withoJ,lt any duty and tax, to unprecedented Ooods to Godavari,.WY!lra, and tbe Government of India Errakalva rivers in Kbamm:lm, East and should make available wool on West Godavari, Warangal and Krishna cheap rates by importing it. districts. In addit'ion, the farmers lost standing ClOpS. Their lands were sand cast. 3. Smuggling of woo) and wool fibre So as to help them in recpnstructing/ should be strictly checked. repairing their fully/partly damaged barns and to ensure that it will· not adversely affect 4. The incentive money on medium the normal curing and production of tobacco Qua.lity carpet production and the Tobacco Board recommended to the export should immediately be Government of India to make available increased. financial assistance with subsidy element. As 5. The rate of interest on loans taken the tobacco plantations have already from banks for carpet production commenced, the Government should come and export should be reduced. forward as requested by the Tobacco Board to the rescue of farmers whose barns were 6. The Child Labour Law should not damaged. The Government made avaiJahle be made applicable to the trainees assistance to the damaged barns during 1977 in the carpet industry. November cyclone. Tobacco and its products are bighest revenue earning items for the [English] Union Government exchequer. But only a (,I) Need to take step~ fo check the entry very meagre amount is being spent on of infiltrators into J ndia from Pakistan development and extension of VFC Tobacco. border The Government should come forward to provide JIS jackets to save coal and curing SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU (BeHar),): time as well as desuckercides with subsidy Pakistan's latest activities pose a great element in the larger national interest so as danger to our country. They are supporting to reduce unit cost of production to enable the extremists with arms and ammunitions Indian Tobacco to compete more effectively and are heing provided training in llakistan. in the world markets. Sir, they have also started sending Pakistani intruders into Punjab; Rajasthan and Jammu (viii) Need to adopt necessary measnffS to and Kashmir in order to create disorder in . meet the power n'quirements of our country. Pakistan has also started Karnatal"a raising of Kashmir once again on the International forums. This shows that SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore P"k istan is fully preparing for a war against South) : Sir, Karnatak.. has been facing India. They are getting arms from USA glaring power shortage for the past, si.~ years. and have entered an agreement with China As against per capita consumption of power, regarding nuclear develClpment. This is a i.e., the all India target of 282 units at the matter of great concern to us. The Indian end of the Seventh Plan, Karnataka is not Governmt'nt should fa ke steps to check the likely to cross 210 un i ts. It is very infiltrators from Pakistan and to stop any necessary to take up immediately some help being given by that country to the short-term options to provide interim relief extremists. It is, therefore, necessary to to power consumers such as 120 MW gas come forward with some concrete solutions turbine/diesel plant in lJangalore at the to solve these problems. initiative taken by the industry and the de- • centralised 30 MW diesel installations at (vii) Need to make available financial four places in the State. Adequate funds a~sistanre to tobacco growers in should be provided for the programme to Andhra Pradesh whose crops have reduce transmission and distribution losses bl'erl damaged due to floods in and to save energy. Further, Sharavathy Godavari, Wyanl and Errnkalv8 riven tail rlice project, Shivasamudram Seasonal Power Station, seasonal power projects in SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA Western ,Ghats and bedthi projects should RAO (Vijayawada): More tban three be financed by t.he Centre on priority basis, !89 Estate Duty (Amdt.) Bill. KARTIKA 13, 1908 (SAKA) Estate Duty (Arndt.) Bill. 390 1986 1986 Action should be taken to bave Super This is a very short aDd simple Bill Thermal Power Stations .wi~h 500 MW units. which seeks to abolish tbe estate duty on agricultural lands in the Stat:s of Punjab and Tripura. Therefore. I am sure that the BiU wiill"ieceive the unanimous support of 17.21 bu. tbe House. ESTATE DUTY (AMENDMENT) With these words. I move. BILL, 1986 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion [English] moved: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE "That the Bill further to amend the Estate Duty Act, 1953, be taken into DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN consideration". THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. OADHVI) : On behalf of Sbri Vishwanatb Pratap Singh, I beg to move: Shri B.B. Ramaiah. "Tbat the Bill further to amend SHRI B.B. RAMAIAH (EJuru): Sir, the Estate Duty Act, 1953. be taken into this is a Bill which seeks to amend the consideration." Esta~e Duty Act, 1953. Already we have so many taxes like the income-tax, tbe Hon. Members may recall that the wealth tax, the capital gains tax and so Estate Duty Act was amended Jast year so many other taxes. The estate duty should as to discontinue the levy of estate duty in have been abolished long back. Anyway, respect of property other than agricultural now it is beiDg taken up in respect of lands with effect from 16th March, 1985. As Punjab and Tripura. The other States have a result of the amendment mllde in the already agreed for the abolition of this tax Estate Duty Act in ] 984 and the Resolutions on agricultural land. I always feel that any passed by various State Legislatures under tax on agriculture is very dangerous and the article 252 of the Constitution, the Estate farmers and innocent people 8re put into a Duty Act has ceased to apply to the lot of inconvenience. The Punjab and ogricultural1ands situated in all the Union Tripura have recently done this. Territories and all the States except the States of Nagaland, Punjab and Tripura. I know tbat earlier the country tobacco tax was used to be put on the farmers. It The State Legislatures of Punjab and was one of tbe greatest harassments to tbe Tripura have passed Resolutions under farmers. Once it was abolished, the article 252 of the Constitution to the effect Government did not lose much; but I should that the Estate Duty Act may be amended say. the tax collectors and the indirect people have heavily. whereas by Parliament so a~ to discontinue the levy lost farmers of estate duty in respect of agricultural lands got grcat reHer. The land tax a Iso is a harassment to the farmers and tbe innocent which are situated in thes~ States and which pass on deaths occurring on or after 16th people who do not know how to prepare March, 1985. This Bill seeks to make tbe accounts. They are put to a lot of an amendment in the Estate Duty Act inconvenience and the people try to mis-use pursuant to the Resolutions passed by the these provisions. Legislatures of these two States. The effect of this Bill being enacted into law will be Now I would strongly support not only that the Estate Duty Act will cease to appJy this, but any other aspect which gives relief to the agricultural lands whicb are situated to tbe .farmers. After the agricultural land in the States of Punjab and Tripura and ceilings have been introduced, the holdings wbich pass on the deaths occurrina on or have been reduced. Putting any tax on the ,fter ~ 6th Mar~b. 1985. ,~mal1 boldin,s is not desirable. ~91 Estate Duty (Arndt.) Bill. NOVEMBER 4. 1986 Estat, Duty (Amdt.) Bill. 392 1986 J986 . tSbri B.B. Ramaiah] be persuaded to abolish it on aaricultural I thank you very much for tbe time tbat land because it is a slur OD tbe lOCiety. Witb this I 'conc)udo. you have given to me. I thank the Finance Minister for introducing tbe BiU. I support it. [English] SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond [T,an,'allo,,] Harbour): Sir, last year tbe Government DR. G.S. RAJHANS (Jbanjbarpur) : abolished estate duty after an experiment Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the truth is that of 32 ycars. The estate duty was intro there is nothing to say on this Bill, except duced in 19S3 and after 32 year. in 1985 to support it. One of praise .. worthy work they said tbat the experiment bas failed. done by the Rajiv Gandhi Government. What was tbe experiment? Was it only after it took over. has been the' abolition of for tbe purpose of revenue coUection or tbe Estate Duty. Estate Duty was like was there some otber objective in imosing cancer in the tax system. The people who estate duty? One of the purpose of every have been victims of this t8xknow very well revenue Act is to raise revenue. The as to how it bas adversely affected them. other purpose for which the estate duty The middJe class people with ,the entire was introduced-this is practicaJ1y so io earnings of their life purchase two bighas of all developed countries-was to briD8 about Jaod or a small flat. I can give you many some kind or equality through tbis parti such e:\amples and if you want, I can give cular Act so that property when it passes you tbe names also. I have seen this thing from one generation to the other some or happening to my, five or six friends. it goes to the State and thereby some Suddenly due to some accident or some inequality gets eliminated. That part was disea~e the man died, leaving the family not at an taken notice of when tbe reason without any bread earner. Their tears had was given for abolition of estate duty. The oot dried up when the Estate Duty officials only reason given at that time and subse .. started knocking at their door for quently was that the co1lcellon of estate recovery of the Estate Duty. I know duty was so little tbat even tbe cost of that man bad purchased the flat by taking collection of estate duty was more than tbe loan but for paying the Estate Duty, the actual collection. The collection figures, members of the famHy had to resort to we know, varied from Rs. 20 crores to distress sale sel1ing the flat for Rs. 50 to Rs. Rs. 26 crOfes. We also know that so far 60 thousand as they were to pay heavy as I ncome Tax is concerned tbe Govern Estate Duty. Unfortunately, many people ment always claims that tbe collection are not aware of this, they have not under cbarse of income-tax is nol more than 3 gone the pangs of payment of the Estate per cent but how tbey claim tbat estate dut)' Duty. Therefore. last year when direct collection ex.ceeded the actual collection. taxes were rationalised, the Estate Duty was That particular statistics bas never been' abolished. Tn certain States the E;;;tate Duty made c1ear to us in the House or outside. on agricultural land stiH exists_ Punjab and The same Department collects botb income Tripura have abo1i~hed it. The truth is tax and estate duty. It may be possible that this Bill should have come quite early. through some . financial jUlllery some of This type of system is a s1ur on the society. the cost incurred by tbe Department aD If you recover Estate Duty from big persons income tax collection bal been passed 00 that would mean some tbing but if a middle to estate duty bnt DO . Haufee were made elass family after the death of the head of available to show tbat tbll proposition was the faroily has to pay it, tbat is very correct so (ar as the economica 01 the tax unfortunate. Is concerned. I would like to lay tbat this Bill is quite So far .1 tbe equality ••peel I. con- good. Barlier an amending Bill had ",corned nobody from tbe Treasury Bencbei come and tbat was a very good BiIJ. either the Finance Minister or tbe Minister Subsequently another amending Bill was or State for Finance-made aD,ltatemeDt presented which was even better. Wherever in the House or O\ltlJaO. 11lls i, v~ pecu\iar. 't ba I remained, for that tllo Statos sllould 393 Estal. Duty (..4mdt.) Biil, 1{AR tlKA J3, lY08 (SAKA) Estate Duty Umdt.} Bill, 394 J986 J986 I would like to lay that this is one the future by sivins indemnity to people of tbo factors which falls in line with tbe who bave not paid tax .-or years. Tbat Government policy of lo-called liberali is one way. Then. they are letting people ealioD, viz., livin. more benefits to the rich sive returns and say tbat this is the tax people that tbe eatate duty has also been tbey have Dot paid and in future also, tbey abolished. It i. in tbe same· catesory of wilJ do that. Today, tbey will pay tax on things that the Government bas been money which tbey bave not earned, and in trying to do, tbat is. do not give b~ocfit to future they will earn money and say tbat tbe poor. You only say you will give but they bave already paid tax. This is not actually do Dot livo. . You gIve benefits to collection of tax arrears, but only mortgag tbe rich by more impcuts and less ing the future. The collection of lax industrialisation here. As Dc. RaJbans has tbat they have raised is' not merely by said tbis abolition of es'al~ duty bas decreasing "the tax ratc. That' bas to be meant less barassment for some people. clearly understood. It is not tbe Act itself wbicb causes harassment. It is tbe way in which tho Tnis is a Sill which is a conseQuential Act is implemented. If tbe Government wan one. Tbere IS notbing much to say. ted to implement it properly it would ba ve 'They say thdt in all States agricultural tax been properly implemented but, I think, bas been aboJi:sbed, only It remams in intentionally and deliberately tbey created Punjab and l'ripuia, it is discriminatory, sucb an apparatus for collection that it is 80 tbey cannot do anytblllg about it, it baa tbe poorer people who are just above the to go. limit wbo were most barassed and tbose whose estate amounted to crores of rupees But the ruain tbiDa IS, wbat have you were not harassed because tbey could oone? 1 his is not one of the ways of employ proper leaal people so that tbe creating socialism. You have d-:stroyed It. estate is arranged in sucb a way that they You lla ve been dcmgratlDg ~er lam tbings could escape tbe estate duty tax net. ThIS which IS not good tor creatmg socJaJism. is a very peculiar thina tbat the Govern You have been telling tbat the workers in ment itself tries to make the law practically India are tbe most mefficient. Tbis is your inoperatable. You are not only harassing pattern and this also falls in your pattern. tbe people. but you bave also left all Tbis is a heinous crime. On the otbcr kinds of loopboles, all avonues open for hand, the Government should have a second tbe ricber section of people. Arrer tbat look at what they have ..loue and to what you say that you are not able to collect extent they have ione in Jiquidiatiog tbe enougb. This is because you have kept the idea of socialism and whether tbey net open in sucb a way tbat you bave should not take corrective steps and allowed all tbe bia fish escape tbroujb tbat reintroduce the Estate Duty again. and only tbe littlo ones are" caught. Tberefore. your cost of collection is hiBb SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji) : and tbe revenue collection is low. After Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Bill which tbat you say tbat you bave dODe a vcry bas come before us, in fact, wiJjgo a long lood tbina and prevented barassment. way in tbe simplification of procedure witb Actually. ahe revenue wbicb could bave been respect to taxes. It is said that our collected by bavios this tax would bave country is the highest tax levied country. been much more; it is Dot only Rs. 20 as also the country where there is DO or 25 crores, but it would bave been retionalised system of taxation. By bring hundreds of crores. You· bave Biven it a ing this legislation I and tbe leaislatlOD8 .o-by in fact. What bas been heppening which were brought earljer, we are doins is tbat SiDOO 198' tbe budlet passed not away with certain taxes which by DO means for tbe purpose of raisiol revenue, but for we can consider as rational taxes. tbe purpose of seeiDI tbat more and more tax exemptions are aranted. I knotY what One more tbing. OUf Prime Minister, tbe answer of tbe Government will be. Shri Rajiv Gandhi announced 20-Point They will say tbat tbey are collecting marc programme very recently. The Jast point taxes by roduciDI tbe tax rate. In fact. wbich bas been mentioned is with respect wbat .be, uo 40iDa ia tbol aro mortaaainB to .implificatioDs of procedures. I would , ' , 395 Estate Duty (Amdt.) Bili. Estate Duty (Arndt.) .8ill, 396 1986 1986 (Sbri ShaDtaram Naikl on tbe anvil, some load proposals have 'been -categorize tbe preseot Bill uoder that point. put forth (oJr rationalisation of lax procedures whereby we WAll not ooly simplify the in general. As faf as the income Tax Act procedure, but do away with tbioas which is concerned. there bave been certain pro ... are absolutely irrational. pOlials. 1 will give j~st ODe simple example. 10 Goa, a man ,and a woman are tnmted OD Fortunately. we ba ve aot a very good equal footiDI and ber state and bis state are Finance Minister assisted by other able considered separately, even for income tax. Ministers, He has for rationalization of They are assessed separately and tbeir aS6ets tues souabt dialogue witb tbe business are not joined' together even for estate duty community. He sits for bours togelher in are wealth tax purposes. Now, 1 bave learnt bis chamber even late at night, does his that a new proposal is coming to do away home work and studies the matters himself. wIth tbe concession tbat the people of Goa Tbe country is very fortunate in having arc enjoying 00 account of their progressive sucb a finance Minister. nature of the legislatioo. If you are bringing such a legislation, wbich would do away with The aspects of rationalisation arc taken the progressive system existing io one part in sucb a manner that in the Income Tax of the country. 1 tbink that that will not be Act, 1 have seen a proposal last year. When a proper legislation or a progressive legisla the scientists of our country get some tion. Similarly, in the Income Tax. Act, I )umpsum amount for their work, tbat amount would like to point out about Section 230 A. is spread over three years, so that there is to the boo. Minister. Wben you register a some sort of a concession giveo in recogni· deed for some immovable property, if you' tion of tbe work done by our scientists. are taking Rs. 50,000 worth or property by Tbese are tbe tbings wbich go a long way in virtue of tbat deed, or if you are giving rationalisation of the system. Rs. 50,000 worth of property, then you bave to take a 'No Objection Certificate', under As rar as tbe estate duty is concerned, it Section 230 .. A of the Income Tax Act. This iii absolutely nOl fitting in our days. It is puts people in hardship. A person may not irrational, You tax a person with some have any property today, and if he gets income and tbe moment a person dies, Rs. 50.000 worth of property from his father immedietely your Estate Duty comes into or mother or somebody else, for that he has I'orce'. In we do not even allow him a way, to go to the Income Tax Department. to die in peace because tbe Act comes into Today be is wortb nothing. He does not force with respect to tbat person, tbe have even Rs. 5 and tomarrow because of moment be dies. Such a system of texation some good thing, he has to go to tbe Income is absolutely not in tune witb our times. Tax office, wbich he bas never seen earHer. We not only punish the dead person, but I am just giving this example so that some family of the person who also the inherits retionalisation in all the tax procedures and tbe small property. There may be some tax structures may be made. This is my persons who my inherit very biS properties bumble pka that all tbe Jaws may be tliken but the same law applies even to the small in a consolidated form and study may be inheritors. We punish those persons who made and wherever simplification is required inherit small properties from tbeir father, with reaard to tbe procedures under Wealth mother or somebody else. Tax, Income Tax, Estate Duty t etc., the We should also avoid the theory of necessary reforms may be brought about. so double taxation. We have five year plans for that we need not bring about any new bid us, roads, schools .. etc. But at tbe same legislation next year. Since ,you are already time, when we construct a bridge on the bringing this Bill on tax proposals, 1 would national highway, we take anotber toll for like you to consider this point on the that bridae. I am just giving a simple example income tax also. of this double taxation system. Tbese are certain thiogs which the' country or tbe (Tranl/ation) Finance Minister bas to avoid. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV I would like, to remind you that with (Nalanda) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, tbe I espe~t to income tax proposals which are continuous exemption in aDd abolition of · , ' I , ' ~97 Est_Ie Duty (Amdt.) Bill. KARTI KA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Estate Duty (Amdt.) Bill. 398 I9B6 1986 direct ta xea is a very danprou8 trend Ind deadman. It was just like a punishment. it'makes tbe intention of tbe Government What was the earning from it? The clear. In fact, through these steps the earning was quite less oompared to the cost present Government wants to serve the of co)lection. It was around 20 to 26 cause of tbe rich and the big people. Just crores. On the contrary, tbe women have now some of tbe hon. Members of tbe to take insurance (or Estate Duty. It was ruling party supported tbese steps and called Estate Duty Insurance cover and cited an example tbat even people holding 2 larae cbunk of tbe money bad to be placed or 4 bighas of land used to facc difficulties for giving premium on insurance. Many of because of this Duty. If it is going to the developing and developed countries serve the pOO,r then it is a welcome step. It also do Dot have estate duties and tbe also conforms to tbe values enshrined in countries which had Estate Duties had the Constitution. But even the big landlords abolished it. Australia bad abolished the who did not deserve exemption have been Estate Duty in 1979. Canada bad granted tbe same through tbis leBislation. abolished the Estate Duty in 197 J • Even Preseot ly, tbe major part of our agricultural tbe Jha Commission had recommended the land is owned by only a few people. If we concessions in Estate Duty and it was persue the all India figures then it comes towards the direction of tbe abolition of out that only a few people own tbe tbe Estate Duty on agricultural land and maximum land. The progressive land bouse property. The characteristics of reforms have not been implemented. Instead. property have now changed-their place tbere is decline in such activities and the value, time value and demand value. Governmtnt is showing indifference towards Taxation also bas taken different forms: this aspect.· I oppose the exemption sranted wealth tax. capital gains tax and otber to big landlords. I think that the provision forms. Even tbe wealth tax in our country should have been made to the effect that is higber as compared to other countries. there will be exemption for small landholders i.e., here it is about 5%. In many countries but the Duty will remain in vogue for tbe it is 2.5%; in others, 0.5%. Transfer of big people. property, after death, bas to be smooth. If the transfer of property brings in panic in With the.,e words I conclude. tbe family for paying estate duty or other forms of tax, it is not good on the part of the Government to do so. We find many (English] concessions in countries like USA and UK if tbe property is transferred to tbe spouse. SHRI VIlA Y N. PATIL (Erandol): But here, such concessions are not there. Mr. D.eputy Speaker, Sir, I stand to support The spouse and other heirs at the time of tbe Amendment. The Estate Duty Act as transfer are treated on par. They are under passed in 1953, had so many amendments tbe same type of taxation. before it, some States bave the powers to levy Estate Duty and remain behind in the Tbe Governments of Punjab and aboHtion of the Estate Duty. Tripura have come forward to do this now; and tbat is why this amendment is required. Sir, this Act was good at the time of The other State Governments have already the independence', when the Britishers Jeft done away wiJb th is cumbersome form of and there were large estates even in taxation. agricultural lands. After tbe Ceiling Acts enacted by tbe various Statest majority of Of course, tbere is also ODe point to be the land has come unJer land ceiling and considered: any property that is built by I do not agree with my friend that still there an individual, is built after paying income are very big landlords. At least, I see in tax. We consider bim as an bonest income my state of Mabarashtra, very small hold tax payer. For evaders, we have to levy ings. penalties and be vigilant about them. But when property is created after payment of Sir, the Estate Duty was as high as 40 income tax, and after tbe deatb in tbe form per cent OD tbe property of SO lakhs and of inheritance tax or capital gains tax, ),"U above and it was a heavy burden. That are again levying tax on the same propeny. burden was OD the spouse or hein of tbe SO, bow many times arc we loina to tax 399 Estate Duty (Amdt.) Bill, NOVEMBER 4, 1986 Estate Duty (.t4mdt.) Bill. 4()() 1986 1986 [Shri Vijay N. Patil] tax on tbem. Had tbe properties of the rich the property which has already been been iiven to tbe POOl', tben you .could have acquired after paymebt of income tax ? marched towards socialism, bu t here we That is also a point to l?e considered. I cannot understand your de~lsion of exempt ing the flOO1 Duty. am glad tbat OUf young Prime Minister millionaires the Estate Shri Rajive Ji and the dynamic Finance This step is certainly not in tbe direction of Minister Shri V.P. Singh Ji are thinking socialism. Therefore, Mr. Deputy Speaker, over the' suggestions made by so many Sir, I want to draw the attention of hon. experts on taxation, and making improve Minister tbat he ha') not taken a step in the mentli in the field of direct dod indirect right direction by eX~l1lpling the ricb from taxes. Let us wait for good results, so the Estate Duty. There are many other ways tbat people who ale honest tax payers can also of taxing the rich peopl~. You can come forward and pay the tax in tbe open; collect money through Income tax from very and the black money that is playing havoc rich people, holdlllg large properties. Just in the country, i.e. the No. '1. money, is now an hon. Member from Communist reduced. Party said that many people have ilJegaly grabbed vast chunk.s of land and are earning Let us pray for good things. and wait huge income through agriculture and otber for good things. means. You can fix a limit in this regard. It can be Rs. 10,000 or Rs. 20,000 or [Translalion] Rs. 50,000 or even Rs. one Jakh. You can make some provision to rc::aiise tax on th~ SHRI GJRDHARI LAL VYAS amount exceeding the limit. If anybody's (Bhllwara): Mr. Deputy Spl!akec, Sir, I income is more than Rs. 1 lakh, you must support the Estate Duty B111. Just now an Jevy income tax or some other tax on him bon. Member of C.P.M. was advocating so ~bat a restriction is jmposed on such socialism but his own State Tripura has persons and you get money as wdl. 10 this already passed the Estate Duty Bill. It shows way you will keep on going in the the gap between the profession and tbe right direction towards sociahsm. There .. practice. It is a matter of deep regret that fore, you must reconsider this system. Members of the Communist Party shower praises on their Government for this work The second thing I want to say is that and criticise our Government for that very all the black -money holders of our country same work. It is very shameful. It sbould are investing it in purchasing land because be checked and there should be no difference you bave exempted land from taxes. As between their profession and practice. there is no tax on income from land in our country, people have been amassing wealth. When you had abolished Estate Duty They do not have to pay income tax or earlier, we had questioned the wisdom of wealth tax by declaring their in~ome as exempting the rich people. As SIll i Rajhans income from agriculture. This is resulting in bas just now said, middle class people should increase in the black money in our cou ntry be exempted from this to save tbem from and people are going on amassing it. You harassment and not the big people who do will have to pay attention to this to improve not face any harassment. You wer~ unable upon this situation because people want to to colle..;t the dues of E':itate Duty amounting convert their black money into white by' to crores of rupees from the rich because buying land. You should impose some they weot to the courts an" got protection. restrictions and impose taxes on them and Y OLl do not attempt to collect money from make such provisions in rules that no such persons but harass the poor. Exempt person is exempted from tax after a certain ing poor through this Bill is a good step but limit of income. you have not indicated as to what is going to be done in the case of tbe . rich people '! About the step taken by the Tripura Why have you exempted the rich people Government, I would say only this tha t it is from E"tate Duty? Instead, you Ihould have a Communist Party Government which imposed higher Duty on them. You have tbough professes to be believi os in socialist Ch,)SC·l th~ patb of socialism. You should system, has abandoned its ideology and has bave, therefore, imposed some or the other chaoged -its course. -I woulJ like to tell the 401 Estate Duty {Amdt.} Bill. KARTIKA 13. 1908 (SAKA) Business Advisory 402 1986 Committee hOD. Finance Minister that i~ is totally a 18.00 brl. wrong provision and it sbould be reconsidered. You have stated tbat Rs. 20 [Translalion) or 26 crores are collected but the cost of collection exceeds this amount. I do not SURI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) agree to it. All tbe same, this system could Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, call my name so have established socialism io its true sense. that I may have a cbance to speak. The Government should take over the property of tbe people who own in (EnZIl,h) abundance and should distribute it among the needy and tbe poor. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will call The objective behind imposing wealth tax you tomorrow. and Estate Duty was to realise the maximum money and di~trjbute that among tbe needy [TranI/at/on) and the poor. But we do not understand as to how you have simplified and retionalized SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Mr. the taxes under which E,state Duty has been Deput)' Speaker" Sir, one thing is there. abolished on the one hand and wealth tax bas been enhanced on the other. Therefore, (English) some changes are necessary in this system to achieve real socia1ism which our party bas MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can adopted. Here some Communist Party continue tomorrow. Members have started saying tbat we have abandone,j socialism but we have not given it up and our ideology remains the same even now. Actually you have formulated 18.01 brl. certain laws in such a way that some people have got a chance to accuse us on those BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMItTEE points. They should not be given such chances. You should devise some system Twenty-eighth Report under which the difficulties of the common man are removed on the one hand and [Ef/glish] taxes are imposed on the wealthy persons on the other so that a restriction is put on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE their accumulating bJack money. If you MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY want, to grant some exemption thrQugh this AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA Bill then enact some other law for the big DJKSHIT) : .I heg to present the Twen'y and the rich people. Bring such changes in eighth Report of tne Business Advisory the income tax laws or make some other Committee. arrangement so that Government is able to recover maximum black money from these 18.00 'lrl. persons, which they have accumulated on Tile Lok Sabha thi'" adjourned till Ele~'eTl the pretext of agricultural income, and also oj the Clock on JVt"dnt"sd(lv restriction is' put on its expansion. This type NOl'cmber 5, 1986/ Kart/ka 14: of arrangement is badly needed. 1908 (S{lka) With these words I support this Bill. Choudhary Mudran Kendra. MauJpur. Delhi-53.