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DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (DDOT)

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PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED D.C. CIRCULATOR MAJOR SERVICE CHANGES

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THURSDAY, JANUARY 4, 2018

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The Public Hearing was held in the Miracle Theater, 535 8th Street, SE, Washington, DC, at 7:30 p.m., Sean Egan, Deputy Associate Director of Transit Operations, DDOT, presiding.

PRESENT:

SEAN EGAN, Deputy Associate Director for Transit Operations, DDOT DAVID KOCH, Transportation Analyst, DDOT CIRCE TORRUELLAS, Citywide Planner, DDOT SAM ZIMBABWE, Chief Project Delivery Officer, DDOT

ALSO PRESENT:

RACHEL LESNIAK, Foursquare Integrated Transportation Planning DAVID MILLER, Foursquare Integrated Transportation Planning

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2 7:31 p.m.

3 MR. EGAN: All right. If everyone

4 could please take their seats, we'd really like

5 to get started. So, good evening, everyone.

6 On behalf of the District Department

7 of Transportation, I'd like to welcome you to

8 tonight's public hearing for the major service

9 changes that we're proposing.

10 So, my name's Sean Egan. I'm the

11 Deputy Associate Director for Transit Operations

12 at DDOT, and I have some other DDOT colleagues

13 that I'm joined by here tonight, that some of you

14 met during the Q & A session.

15 So, I'm joined by Circe Torruellas,

16 there, who's the Manager of the D.C. Circulator

17 Program, as well as Sam Zimbabwe, who's the Chief

18 Project Delivery Officer for DDOT.

19 So, if you have additional questions

20 after the presentation and speakers, please come

21 and see us. We'll also be supported by our

22 planning team from Foursquare Integrated

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1 Transportation Planning, who will be facilitating

2 the event for us tonight.

3 So, just to give you a quick

4 understanding of what we're going to be doing

5 tonight, we're going to give a brief overview of

6 the Circulator system.

7 We're going to talk about the 2017

8 transit development plan process. We're going to

9 explain the major service changes, and then, the

10 public hearing process.

11 So, after this brief presentation,

12 there will be an opportunity for public comment.

13 So, the DC Circulator has six easy to understand

14 routes.

15 We provide high frequency service, so

16 that's service every 10 minutes, all day. We

17 have a simple and affordable $1 fare structure,

18 and we have distinctive, comfortable buses for

19 our riders.

20 So, our goals for the system are to

21 provide high quality service to maximize the

22 financial and operational return on investment,

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1 to promote economic activity in existing and

2 developing activity centers, and support a

3 transit-oriented lifestyle, and to strengthen the

4 surface transportation network across the

5 District for all users.

6 So, the recommendations that you see

7 here tonight are the result of our TDP process.

8 That's a transit development plan.

9 So, every three years, we look at our

10 system and look at ways that we might be able to

11 improve our system. So, the previous version was

12 done in 2014, and this is the 2017 version.

13 So, in late 2016, we began the

14 development process. We looked at our service to

15 determine areas where we needed improvements.

16 We did some preliminary

17 recommendations that looked at the constraints of

18 our service, the number of buses that we have,

19 the funding that we have for buses, and how we

20 could make the best use of those resources.

21 We got input from our stakeholders,

22 and then we put all of that together to do a

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1 Phase 1 public outreach that we did during June

2 of 2017.

3 So, we got input, we went out to

4 community events and high ridership locations

5 across the District. We got input from more than

6 2,600 respondents through that public process in

7 June of 2017.

8 We took those comments under

9 consideration, and we revised the recommendations

10 based on that feedback, and we released a draft

11 report in September of 2017.

12 We asked for comments on that, and we

13 got more than 800 comments from the public on the

14 draft report in September. We made some

15 additional revisions, and then we released the

16 final report in December.

17 So, just to give you a sense of the

18 system that we have in place, we provided over

19 five million trips in 2016. With that said, the

20 system is struggling with on-time performance.

21 That's primarily due to maintenance issues.

22 So, when buses are out of service for

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1 maintenance, they're not available, and that's

2 hurt, really hurt our on-time performance.

3 So, the major initiative that we're

4 doing with that is to solicit a new contract for

5 the service, for the operations and maintenance.

6 Our new solicitation is focused on

7 improving safety and training, and really focused

8 on system performance and addressing the

9 shortfalls that we see.

10 So, the two routes that drew the most

11 focus from our analysis were the Potomac Avenue

12 Metro-Skyland via Barracks Row, and the Union

13 Station-Navy Yard Metro routes.

14 So, what we see on the Potomac Avenue

15 Skyland route is low ridership. We see poor on-

16 time performance, and we see trip generators.

17 So, those are areas where there's

18 activity that aren't providing ridership

19 throughout the day. So, there's not enough

20 ridership, based on the activities that are

21 happening in the corridor to support the 10

22 minute ridership all day, or 10 minute service

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1 all day every day.

2 And we also experienced significant

3 delays on Good Hope Road during rush hour. We

4 see a lot of similar issues on the Union Station-

5 Navy Yard Metro.

6 The low ridership, particularly on

7 midday, and on the weekends, again, the ridership

8 activity areas aren't providing all day service.

9 We see a lot of commuter use, but not

10 as much midday and evening use of the service.

11 And then, we have a high number of bus stops per

12 mile, so that slows down the service and makes it

13 less attractive to customers.

14 So, the major service changes that

15 we're proposing are on the Potomac Avenue Metro

16 Skyland route, the Union Station-Navy Yard Metro

17 route, the Georgetown-Union Station route, and

18 then, to the paper passes that are valid only on

19 the Circulator.

20 So, if you look at the Potomac Avenue

21 Skyland route, you can see the line with the

22 white down the middle of it is the current route.

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1 So, the current route, we talked about some of

2 the challenges that that's having.

3 So, what we wanted to do was to look

4 at ways that we could serve some activity centers

5 that would be providing ridership all day

6 everyday.

7 And so, could we reconfigure that

8 route to serve Union Station, as well as Congress

9 Heights?

10 So, this will provide a one-seat ride

11 from east of the river to Union Station, a faster

12 connection using Massachusetts Avenue and 8th

13 Street between Union Station and the Navy Yard

14 complex.

15 It reduces overlap with existing

16 service on and Good Hope

17 Road. And when we did go out to the public, the

18 majority of the respondents in both June and

19 September gave us positive feedback on this.

20 So, this would serve from Union

21 Station, Eastern Market, Barracks Row, Navy Yard,

22 downtown , Stanton Road, and then the

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1 Metro. And it would replace the

2 existing Metro Bus 94 service.

3 So, and the, on the Navy Yard route,

4 instead of starting at Union Station, the route

5 would start at Eastern Market.

6 It'll continue down 8th, like it does

7 today, and west, past the Navy Yard, all the way

8 to the Southwest Waterfront, serving the

9 Waterfront Metro Station, and some of the new

10 development that we're seeing in the Southwest

11 Waterfront area, and then coming up to L'Enfant

12 Plaza to connect with five Metro rail lines, VRE,

13 and a number of bus services.

14 So, it would have a new, there would

15 be a new connectivity between Eastern Market,

16 Barracks Row, the Navy Yard, Southwest

17 Waterfront, and L'Enfant Plaza.

18 It would operate year round, Saturday

19 and Sunday. It would serve some new attractions

20 like the Wharf, the Museum of the Bible, the Spy

21 Museum, and it will reconnect Circulator service

22 in the Southwest Waterfront area. So, that's the

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1 proposed change for that.

2 And so, you can see from the next

3 slide that we understand the importance of the

4 link between the Union Station and the Navy Yard,

5 and so that link is preserved on the orange

6 route.

7 And then, for any riders who want to

8 make those connections, they can, they can have a

9 free transfer with their SmarTrip card between

10 the orange and blue, and have access to either of

11 those routes and all of those destinations that

12 you see on the map there.

13 So, on the Georgetown-Union Station,

14 we're proposing to make our regular late night

15 service between McPherson Square and Union

16 Station from 9:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m.

17 Right, as we previously had it

18 configured, we're only serving half of the route

19 at night, so we would have late night service for

20 the full length of the Union Station to

21 Georgetown route, and we would also operate the

22 route regularly until 3:00 a.m. on the weekends.

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1 This was an initiative that we took as

2 part of the SafeTrack Program, and we want to

3 make that a regular part of our service.

4 So, on fare media, we sell a small

5 number of unlimited use paper passes for the DC

6 Circulator. They're used by less than 2 percent

7 of our riders, and we're really trying to

8 encourage our riders to move to electronic fare

9 payment.

10 So, riders who want an unlimited bus

11 pass can use the Regional SmarTrip Pass, and they

12 get unlimited rides on Circulator, as well as

13 Metro bus and the region's other bus services

14 with the SmarTrip pass.

15 And there's no change proposed to the

16 $1 per trip base fare for the Circulator. So,

17 we've undertaken a service equity analysis.

18 So, for service equity, we look at the

19 positive and negative impacts of proposed service

20 changes, and then, we look in particular at the

21 impacts on low income populations and minority

22 populations, and compare those relative to the

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1 non-minority and non-low income populations.

2 So, we looked at the package of

3 proposals here, and we found that there is no

4 disparate impact on minority populations, and no

5 disproportionate burden on low income populations

6 as a result of this.

7 So, there are, the positive changes

8 are the new service, additional hours. And then,

9 the discontinued service areas, on net, there was

10 no disparate impact or disproportionate burden.

11 So, we'll move now into the public

12 hearing process. So, we'll be calling speakers

13 up.

14 There will be microphones here, and

15 this microphone will be relocated down here.

16 Speakers can come up to the microphone.

17 Everything, please walk up as soon as

18 your name is called. Everything you say will be

19 recorded and entered into the public record.

20 Each speaker will have an allocated

21 amount of time, three minutes for members of the

22 public, five minutes for elected officials, such

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1 as Advisory Neighborhood Commissioners.

2 The staff will give you a one minute

3 warning, and there will be a buzzer sound when

4 time is up.

5 We really want to make sure that

6 everyone has an opportunity to participate and

7 provide their comments tonight. So, we greatly

8 appreciate keeping to the established time.

9 And all of our comments will be

10 reviewed, whether they're presented here in the

11 hearing, or whether they're presented as part of

12 our public comment period.

13 So, one of the changes that we want to

14 just quickly note here is we heard from many of

15 you during the, during the question and answer

16 period that you thought there should be

17 additional time made available for comment.

18 We had initially planned to close the

19 public comment period on January 19th, and what

20 we're going to be doing is, based on the feedback

21 that we heard tonight, we're going to be

22 extending that to February 5th.

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1 So, that will be a month from

2 tomorrow. And that'll give us some additional

3 time to get the word out about these proposals,

4 and it'll give our riders and residents more time

5 to participate in the process with us.

6 So, with that, we'll be taking a seat.

7 We won't be able to respond to the comments, but

8 we are listening and recording, and we're going

9 to be taking note of all of the comments provided

10 here.

11 MR. MILLER: Good evening. My name is

12 David Miller. I am a consultant for the District

13 Department of Transportation.

14 I'm going to help facilitate the

15 public speaking portion of this hearing. Sean

16 outlined how this will be carried out. I have a

17 few additional details.

18 I will be calling you up in the order

19 that you signed up. A few people signed up

20 online. They will get to go first. And those

21 that signed up tonight will then go in the order

22 that they signed up.

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1 At the end of that, I will ask if

2 anyone else who may be here would like to give

3 their comments. You will be given the same

4 amount of time.

5 Members of the public receive three

6 minutes of speaking time. At two minutes, I will

7 wave at you, and if you, and if you don't notice

8 me, I'll say one minute into my mic, and I'll try

9 and be as unobtrusive as possible.

10 At three minutes, I do have a timer

11 that will chime on my phone, and we ask that you

12 would respect that time for the sake of those who

13 will be following you in the speaking process.

14 Elected officials will be given five

15 minutes to speak. So, with that, I would like to

16 call up the first speaker who has asked to

17 participate tonight. Maria Thompson. Please

18 step up to the mic, and state your name for the

19 record.

20 MS. THOMPSON: Good evening. My name

21 is Maria Markham, M-A-R-K-H-A-M, Thompson, T-H-O-

22 M-P-S-O-N. It is not hyphenated.

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1 I will give you the highlights of what

2 I have to say, and then I will send actually

3 written comments.

4 I use the Circulator, the Navy Yard

5 route, to get from Union Station when I get off

6 the MARC train, to get up to . I

7 have a disability. I cannot make that walk.

8 It is 1.2 miles, and you go from 33

9 feet above sea level to 88 feet above sea level

10 when you pass the US Supreme Court. That is

11 quite a rise, 55 feet inside of a mile.

12 And there are many other people with

13 disabilities who ride the bus with me, and the

14 loss of the service from Union Station to Capitol

15 Hill, which is what happens, even though you have

16 that nice black arrow that gets from Union

17 Station out to the Navy Yard, I'm not going to

18 the Navy Yard.

19 I need to get up to Capitol Hill, and

20 I do not have other good transit operations,

21 options. The bus that was there, the 96, no

22 longer runs during the day.

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1 You have rump service left. That

2 doesn't even cover all of the peak time on the

3 97.

4 The Metro require is twice as long

5 because I have to travel from Union Station to

6 Metro and come back out, and it doubles the cost.

7 It's a $2 ride, even on SmarTrip.

8 And I have to do a multi-level change

9 to get from red line to the orange line. That is

10 not options for me. I need this bus to be able

11 to go to work.

12 And I have some real problems with the

13 way the analysis was done. First of all, in the

14 equity analysis, DC's own rule, 18503, indicates

15 that the analysis should be done based on

16 ridership.

17 It wasn't done based on ridership. It

18 was done based on the population living on

19 Capitol Hill, which has a lower level of minority

20 people, and low, and fewer low income people.

21 But in the count that I will provide

22 to you, that I took from the time the final

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1 report was released --

2 MR. MILLER: One minute.

3 MS. THOMPSON: -- yesterday, I found

4 that the ridership is 75 percent minority.

5 Not only that, there's a large

6 population using the bus who work at the Library

7 of Congress under, what we call AbilityOne

8 contracts, that give employment to people with

9 disabilities.

10 And those people were not included

11 because you didn't count ridership. You looked

12 at residency.

13 So, and finally, you did note that you

14 got a lot more negative comments than you had in

15 the past because doing neighborhood outreach, but

16 never coming down to Union Station to look at the

17 people who are using this as the end of their

18 commute left out an important segment.

19 So, in closing, what I wish to say to

20 you is that the DC Circulator should continue

21 providing service from Union Station to Eastern

22 Market until such time that the determination to

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1 end it is based on well-supported research of the

2 ridership.

3 And further, it must not be allowed to

4 end until there is a sound plan and enforceable

5 agreement with WMATA has been implemented to

6 replace the service. Thank you.

7 MR. MILLER: Thank you. The next

8 speaker is Ken Jarboe. Please state your name

9 for the record, and then you'll have three

10 minutes.

11 MR. JARBOE: My name is Ken Jarboe.

12 I'm a member of the Board of Directors of the

13 Capitol Hill BID, and I'm testifying on behalf of

14 the BID. The BID strongly supports -- usually

15 people don't have trouble hearing me.

16 (Laughter)

17 MR. JARBOE: As some folks in this

18 room know. The BID strongly supports the

19 extension of the route from Eastern Market to the

20 Waterfront, and the service, and the extension of

21 the service hours, especially on weekends, and

22 the longer hours in the evenings.

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1 We would prefer that the route from

2 Eastern Market to Union Station remain as part of

3 that route.

4 So, it becomes the Union Station to

5 Eastern Market, the Navy Yard, the Waterfront-

6 Wharf route.

7 Understanding that they may not

8 happen, our, we would support the two routes,

9 maintaining some connection from Union Station to

10 Eastern Market, but we would have three requests

11 or issues with that particular route.

12 First, there needs to be a single

13 point at Union Station where all the routes meet,

14 not routes on the Union Station-Capitol Hill

15 route on one side of Union Station, and then the

16 Georgetown and other routes on the other side.

17 That leaves people wandering around,

18 trying to figure out how to connect between the

19 buses.

20 Second, we would urge you to use the

21 4th Street-6th Street connection between Mass

22 Avenue and Pennsylvania Avenue, rather than 8th

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1 Street.

2 In fact, I was at an ANC meeting last

3 night where the residents on 8th Street are

4 talking about the fact that that road can no

5 longer handle the capacity that's already on

6 there of trucks and buses.

7 Also, if you use the 4th and 6th

8 Street, you at least have some stops that are

9 closer to the business on the 200 and 300 block

10 of Pennsylvania Avenue.

11 So, we would urge you to use those two

12 streets as the, if you put that route in place,

13 to use those two streets.

14 And the final one, which I know you'll

15 hear a lot more of, and you've got to do

16 something about that D Street turnaround.

17 The craziness of what I call the

18 coffee corner where D Street, where Starbucks and

19 Dunkin' Donuts, is --

20 MR. MILLER: One minute.

21 MR. JARBOE: -- already crazy. And

22 so, adding a left turn from the buses onto there

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1 is just going to exacerbate it.

2 I don't have an easy answer to that.

3 The easy answer is just to continue up to Union

4 Station and do the turnaround there, but that

5 would be our preference. Thank you.

6 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

7 comments. The next speaker is Jennifer Garlick.

8 Jennifer Garlick, are you present? No?

9 Okay. We'll move on. Our next

10 speaker is Richard Reinhard. Richard? Either

11 mic is fine.

12 MR. REINHARD: Thank you. I'm Richard

13 Reinhard, Chief Administrative Officer of the

14 United Methodist Church General Board of Church

15 and Society.

16 The General Board of Church and

17 Society of the church is extremely disappointed

18 in DDOT's decision to eliminate DC Circulator

19 service from the 1st Street corridor of Capitol

20 Hill.

21 The United Methodist building is

22 located at 100 and 110 Maryland Avenue, NE at the

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1 corner of 1st Street, NE. Our buildings house

2 more than two dozen faith-based and social

3 justice agencies.

4 In addition to our employees, we host

5 large numbers of visitors at our historic

6 buildings.

7 The US Capitol Visitors Center gets

8 2.5 million visitors a year. The Library of

9 Congress gets 1.5 million visitors a year.

10 Your figures show somewhat low

11 ridership for the part of the route that serves

12 these major tourist and employee hubs, but I can

13 tell you from first-hand experience, and if we

14 had more time, I could tell you two dozen

15 interactions I've had with tourists.

16 A tourist would have to be almost

17 clairvoyant to figure out where the Circulator

18 goes from that very busy block. It's a mess.

19 The fact is, you are choosing to serve

20 large private sector interests on the Southwest

21 Waterfront instead of public and nonprofit

22 interests on Capitol Hill.

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1 You might figure out a way to do both.

2 Given the lack of viable Metro bus routes along

3 the 1st Street corridor, the architect of the

4 Capitols and Capitol Police's severe bike sharing

5 restrictions were about to become a bit of a

6 public transportation high desert between Union

7 Station and the Capitol South Metro.

8 You are making these world class

9 attractions tougher to experience, not easier.

10 We appreciate the DDOT director's promise to

11 investigate ways to expand the Metro bus 97 route

12 to cover full peak periods, and I would add

13 greater frequency, but we would respectfully

14 suggest, as the woman earlier said, that maybe

15 that should be worked out before the changes are

16 made.

17 I just want to add that six major

18 attractions on the Hill, on Monday, for the first

19 time, were getting together to talk about

20 promoting that corridor as a cultural corridor.

21 But unfortunately, it appears we're going to be

22 doing it without public transit. Thank you.

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1 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

2 comments. Okay. I'm going to call up two

3 people, one to each mic.

4 The next person is Ivan Frishberg.

5 Please come to the mic. And then, Lucy Leavitt,

6 if you could come to the other mic, and once Ivan

7 is done, then your time will begin.

8 MR. FRISHBERG: Thank you. My name is

9 Ivan Frishberg. I am here primarily to speak to

10 the fact that you are going down to Jefferson

11 Academy.

12 When you describe the end of the

13 Circulator route, you mentioned three private

14 institutions, the Wharf, the Bible Museum, and

15 the Spy Museum, and you forgot that you have two

16 other government agencies, DGS, supporting a

17 school, which is getting a new $70 million

18 renovation where we're trying to connect Capitol

19 Hill families to their by-right middle school,

20 and it was like you accidently got there because

21 it was near a big developer development.

22 So, I didn't want to let this go by

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1 without saying the connection to that school,

2 between the by-right elementary schools and the

3 by-right middle school is really important, and

4 you'll hear about that in a minute.

5 The, I do have concern about the sort

6 of, there's vagaries about where the stop is

7 going to be there, and consistent with safe route

8 to schools and making that stop accessible for

9 kids getting on and off that bus, and having a

10 clear, safe shot from the bus into the school.

11 The location of that stop is really, really

12 important.

13 Plus, I think if you put a middle

14 school stop next to the Wharf, you'll hear about

15 it from the fancy developers at the Wharf, as my

16 friends from behind development will tell you.

17 The turnaround, as Ken Jarboe was saying, is

18 super problematic.

19 It's better than it was the other way,

20 which would've been a complete disaster. The

21 suggestions, I think you'll hear more about

22 these.

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1 One is take a left on E Street where

2 there's a light, go up 7th. It's kind of narrow

3 there, but still, and then, you could take a

4 right on Pennsylvania Avenue.

5 The other is to keep going down

6 Pennsylvania Avenue from 8th, take a right onto

7 6th Street, and utilize either Independence or

8 North Carolina, which are big streets, before you

9 loop back onto 8th Street.

10 Those are wide streets. The advantage

11 of going up North Carolina is you actually get to

12 directly serve Eastern Market, and around as you

13 pull, other government facilities.

14 MR. MILLER: One minute.

15 MR. FRISHBERG: Final comments are I

16 think all the Circulators should be electric. I

17 think there's a way to use on-bill financing to

18 help pay for that, and you don't need to use our

19 capital dollars.

20 It could be better spent elsewhere for

21 infrastructure in the District. That will help

22 you integrate the bus system more into the

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1 neighborhoods, make it more accessible, reduce

2 pollution, get ahead of the price in carbon

3 that's coming.

4 And so, I'd encourage you to rapidly

5 move beyond the pilot that you're in now to an

6 all-electric system. Thank you very much.

7 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

8 comments. Lucy?

9 MS. LEAVITT: Hi. My name is Lucy

10 Leavitt, and I think that a Circulator from

11 Eastern Market to Jefferson Academy is really

12 important to me.

13 One reason I think it could be, like,

14 really helpful is that I can be more independent,

15 rather than my mom and dad having to walk or

16 drive me to school, and my, and I can just go and

17 be ready for the future.

18 Another reason that it's, that I think

19 an Eastern Market to Jefferson Academy Circulator

20 is important because it's more safe.

21 For example, instead of going to the

22 Metro with many strangers, I can be on the bus

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1 with maybe a few people I know.

2 Another example is that the Metro can

3 get stuck, while the Circulator bus can just go

4 straight.

5 One suggestion that I have to stop

6 having a stop really close to Jefferson Academy,

7 but a safe, a safe stop for students to go back

8 home from school.

9 All of this proves that the Circulator

10 from Eastern Market to Jefferson Academy is

11 really important and helps our community. Thank

12 you.

13 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

14 comments. Has Jennifer Garlic arrived? Okay.

15 Our next speaker is Saul Schniderman, and then,

16 if Caitlin Hughes Rayman could come up to the

17 other mic, that would be appreciated.

18 MR. SCHNIDERMAN: Hi.

19 MR. MILLER: Please --

20 MR. SCHNIDERMAN: I'm Saul

21 Schniderman. I'm the President of the Library of

22 Congress Professional Guild, which is affiliated

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1 with AFSCME Local 2910.

2 I'm not speaking here on behalf of the

3 Library of Congress, but I am speaking on behalf

4 of the staff members that we represent, which in

5 this case is 1,500 professionals who held a

6 protest meeting about a month and a half ago and

7 passed a resolution in opposition to the proposal

8 to end the DC Circulator route between Union

9 Station and the Capitol Hill neighborhood.

10 And the resolution that came out of

11 that, which was passed by our members, said, be

12 it resolved that DDOT continue to provide

13 Circulator service to Capitol Hill so that all

14 people, especially those with disabilities, have

15 this safe, reliable means to travel between Union

16 Station and Capitol Hill to access employment and

17 opportunities for research and tourism, and

18 furtherance of DDOT's stated goal to "promote

19 economic activity by facilitating visitor access

20 to Capitol Hill neighborhoods".

21 This is the gateway to the nation's

22 capital, to the Library of Congress. We have a

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1 new librarian who is, emphasis, just started

2 about a year ago, who is emphasizing the public

3 aspect of the Library of Congress.

4 Many of the people who commute, the

5 staff that we represent, are disabled. We have

6 an aging population at the Library of Congress.

7 They depend upon this service.

8 And to discontinue it without an

9 adequate replacement, the 97 bus does not do it

10 for our people, so they told me to come down here

11 and advocate, not only for the interest of the

12 staff that work on Capitol Hill, but also to the

13 public who, I agree with Mr. Reinhard who spoke

14 here today.

15 Many people on Capitol Hill don't know

16 about the Circulator bus, and whenever you take

17 service away, it enlightens them, and believe me,

18 the staff at the Library of Congress, as well as

19 a lot the managers, are enlightened on this issue

20 and watching what you're going to do. Thank you.

21 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your, thank

22 you for your comments. Caitlin?

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1 MS. HUGHES RAYMAN: Good evening. I'm

2 Caitlin Hughes Rayman. I live at 1025 1st

3 Street, SE, right at the end of the loop that you

4 would propose to remove, which I, frankly,

5 support the removal of that little node.

6 But thank you for looking to improve

7 the service in general. My comments speak to

8 opportunities that I think have been missed, and

9 I'd like you to consider them fully.

10 One thing to note is that the current

11 Navy Yard to Union Station loop provides unique

12 connectivity between the orange and blue, green,

13 and red Metro lines. I think that is fairly

14 unusual.

15 There doesn't appear to be any other

16 type of service that does that in that area, and

17 I think if there are Metro issues, it's nice to

18 have that redundancy, as well as that direct

19 connection through the, what was previously

20 described as a desert of transit across the

21 Capitol.

22 So, the bikes that, a lot of people

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1 are using bikes now, which is great, but they're

2 a little bit too challenging to make that north-

3 south connection from Union Station to the Navy

4 Yards Park area.

5 Bikes are too challenging for the

6 elderly, mobility challenged, families with

7 strollers, and kids on their way to school.

8 Walking is actually fairly dangerous

9 in that particular corridor, and I tangentially

10 encourage you to put a traffic light at I Street

11 and New Jersey Avenue where there's a lot of

12 pedestrian and vehicular traffic interaction

13 that's only growing as the growing development

14 continues. But those connections to the US

15 Senate and House are very important.

16 Also, for people who work at the

17 Department of Transportation and other business

18 in the area that need to connect to the Hill.

19 The current route connects a housing

20 complex, which I believe is populated by people

21 who are mobility challenged on 4th Street and M,

22 to Union Station, which has Amtrak service,

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1 Greyhound Bus station, and a large Kaiser

2 Permanente complex.

3 So, I think that would be a loss of

4 connectivity for those folks, especially if

5 they're asked to transfer, get off a Circulator

6 and onto another, as proposed in the new route.

7 And growth is occurring.

8 There's nine buildings with over 2,800

9 units, residential units that are coming onboard.

10 They're being developed right now.

11 MR. MILLER: One minute.

12 MS. HUGHES RAYMAN: Thank you. And

13 another 12 more to come between just South

14 Capitol Street and 8th Street.

15 I don't think you've done enough

16 marketing, frankly. The bottom line is you could

17 do more for tourism.

18 You could do more for mobility and

19 access, and for safety and efficiency, manage the

20 growing car traffic, and the bike/pedestrian

21 interactions, which are currently dangerous, by

22 keeping people on transit.

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1 So, my proposal is do aggressive

2 outreach for your existing service first. Go to

3 all the new buildings. Go to the buildings that

4 are coming online and market it. Go to the

5 events.

6 You know, when the, when the soccer

7 stadium opens up, market it there. Understand

8 your marketing opportunities. Do a study on

9 marketing opportunities.

10 Then, finally, link and extend. I

11 like the new service out to Southwest, but don't

12 lose the connectivity to Union Station.

13 Make that a longer route. You

14 eliminate the node where I live. That's fine.

15 Keep it out of the residential areas.

16 Circulate more frequently. The buses

17 stop in front of there and wait and wait and

18 wait. They should keep moving.

19 And then, finally, pull into Union

20 Station. That last connectivity piece is

21 critical, and I think that's part of why you're

22 not getting the ridership. Thanks.

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1 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

2 comments. Our next two speakers are Chandra

3 Shawn and Trina Robertson. Chandra Shawn.

4 And then, if Trina Robertson, if

5 you're here, if you could come up to the other

6 mic. Sir, please state your name.

7 MR. SHAWN: Thank you very much for

8 giving me a chance to stand here. I know you ran

9 a Circulator bus from DC to Virginia.

10 I would like to know whether you have

11 any chance of running a Circulator bus from DC to

12 Silver Spring.

13 The second one, is there a possibility

14 that bus can be run from a point to point

15 service. The bus starts at DC and stops at

16 Silver Spring. Starts at Silver Spring and stop

17 only at DC.

18 By these, running this four services

19 in the peak time can easily move the crowd from

20 one point to another point.

21 These two things I would like to bring

22 to attention. As you are running Circulator to

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1 Virginia, I think the Maryland also deserves a

2 Circulator. Thank you.

3 MR. MILLER: All right. Thank you for

4 your comments, sir. Trina Robertson? No. Okay.

5 Moving on, next speaker is Heather Foote. Please

6 come to the mic. You have three minutes.

7 And then, if Commissioner Robin Marlin

8 could come to the other microphone and prepare to

9 speak. Please state your name.

10 MS. FOOTE: My name is Heather Foote.

11 I'm Transportation Outreach Manager with Capitol

12 Hill Village, which is a block south here.

13 We work, among other things, on

14 promoting pedestrian bicycle and driver safety,

15 as well as alternative transportation for older

16 adults.

17 My comment doesn't address

18 specifically the Circulator routes, but rather is

19 a request that DDOT be in communication with

20 WMATA about a budget decision last year that

21 eliminated the only indoor place where older

22 adults can purchase the senior SmarTrip card.

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1 There was a sales office at Metro

2 Center station, which was eliminated due to

3 budget cuts, apparently, or budget priorities.

4 And now, if you want to purchase the

5 card, you need to go to Metro Headquarters, which

6 is outdoors.

7 There's no indoor place, or to

8 Virginia or Maryland, where you can buy the

9 SmarTrip card at a Metro Center indoors. Thank

10 you.

11 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

12 comments. Commissioner, you have five minutes.

13 COMMISSIONER MARLIN: Okay. Good

14 evening. My name is Robin Hammond Marlin. I'm

15 the ANC Commissioner for 7B. Sorry. I should be

16 used to this by now. 7B.

17 Also, I'm speaking on behalf of my

18 single member district, and I'm also speaking on

19 behalf of one of four people that got together

20 almost 10 years ago to get the Circulator in our

21 community.

22 That would be the Skyland route for

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1 the Circulator. We have approximately nine

2 neighborhoods within 7B, starting from Hillcrest,

3 , , Fort Davis, Penn

4 Branch, , Twining, and Minnesota

5 Avenue and Gateway.

6 We have four shopping centers, two

7 schools, two recreation centers, and a library.

8 So, I stand here to say to you that we have a

9 need for the Circulator.

10 I noted on your presentation when you

11 talked about the reasons for eliminating the

12 Circulator for the Skyland area, and one that

13 really just got my goat was when you mentioned

14 that it gets hung up in the traffic on Good Hope

15 Road.

16 And I say that because your companion

17 transportation partner, WMATA, is constantly

18 trying to eliminate our bus routes.

19 I have battled with WMATA to maintain

20 the 30s lines for years. I have constituents

21 here that can attest to that.

22 So, I'm asking myself, why is DDOT

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1 constantly, because they also work with WMATA to

2 try to eliminate the 30s lines.

3 Why are you constantly overruling our

4 community? And I've seen that these things are

5 quality of life amenities for us.

6 And I enjoin with Commissioner

7 Muhammad in saying that the communication was not

8 towards ANC 7B.

9 No one contacted me, and the route

10 dead ends in my member district. And it's a

11 little insulting to have to get the information

12 by hearsay, because I did attend the DDOT ANC

13 open house two months ago, and I was told that

14 this project was going to be forthcoming to my

15 SMD, and we would hear about it.

16 But as an ANC commissioner for over 10

17 years, it's unconscionable that you all would try

18 to move forward with the, with the process, that

19 you haven't even come out to our neighborhood to

20 speak to the ANC, the civic association, or the

21 residents about it.

22 And I really speak personally that I

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1 worked too hard to get the Circulator there, and

2 to just take it away without justification, you

3 talk about ridership, perhaps you have two people

4 getting on that line at the Skyland and Denver

5 Street area, but as it moves along, I'm sure you

6 pick up ridership.

7 The only place that I can think of

8 that you're going to get a packed bus is at a

9 Metro station, or somewhere like that.

10 So, I'm tired of hearing about this

11 ridership issue in Hillcrest and the Naylor

12 Gardens and Fairfax Village because people do

13 ride the bus, but we may not come out in a crowd,

14 but we still need to be able to access a bus and

15 get to where we're going.

16 So, I'm asking you all to come out to

17 our community before you move forward. You can

18 make arrangements with me or the civic

19 association, and speak to the residents. Thank

20 you.

21 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

22 comments, Commissioner. Our next speaker, just

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1 checking real quickly, Trina Robertson? Okay.

2 Or Jennifer Garlic? Okay. All right.

3 Our next speaker is Galin Brooks.

4 Galin, are you here? Okay. Leah Daniels. Oh,

5 sorry. Galin, she's here. She's coming. All

6 right.

7 If, Leah Daniels, if you could come to

8 the other mic, that would be fantastic. Thank

9 you. You have three minutes. Please state your

10 name.

11 MS. BROOKS: Thank you. Hi. Thank

12 you for listening to my comments today. My name

13 is Galin Brooks. I'm the planning director for

14 the NoMa Business Improvement District.

15 My comments are related to the TDP,

16 and I'll keep them brief. We applaud DDOT for

17 working hard to improve service delivery for the

18 Circulator throughout the District, and fully

19 support its efforts to provide reliable and

20 efficient transit for all users.

21 Due to the exceptional growth in the

22 NoMa neighborhood, the 2014 TDP recommended the

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1 study of a new route to serve the NoMa

2 neighborhood, a major activity hub.

3 In 2015, the NoMa neighborhood was

4 looked at as a potential new area of service for

5 the Circulator.

6 There was much excitement about this

7 effort, and outlets like City Paper and Greater

8 Greater Washington ran articles about it, and

9 over 900 people responded to the project survey.

10 However, since then, no further study

11 has been shared, nor a preferred route

12 determined.

13 So, on behalf of the community of

14 people who were excited about this new transit

15 service, we urge DDOT to further study a

16 potential route to service this growing area.

17 Those are my comments. Thank you very much.

18 MR. MILLER: Thank you. Please state

19 your name.

20 MS. DANIELS: Hi. My name is Leah

21 Daniels. I own Hill's Kitchen, which is in the

22 700 block of D Street, SE, which is right at the

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1 roundabout that is currently proposed for the

2 terminus for the Eastern Market-Waterfront.

3 I actually love the idea of having the

4 bus go down to the Waterfront. No complaints.

5 It goes by the baseball stadium. Thrilled.

6 However, D Street is a very small

7 street. Currently, it does not have ample room

8 for the current traffic that is serving it.

9 Everyday there are backups. There are

10 frequent car accidents, and it frankly cannot

11 take a bus.

12 As the street is proposed to be turned

13 around, which I'm actually opposed to, it would

14 have the bus turn west on D Street from 8th

15 Street at an intersection that currently does not

16 have a stop sign or a stop light, having it then

17 turn around on 7th Street, going north on 7th

18 Street, and then east again on Pennsylvania

19 Avenue.

20 They're just, the streets are too

21 small. Even having the bus go down E Street and

22 7th Street, it's too small.

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1 Ivan's suggestion of having the bus go

2 down 6th Street to North Carolina, serving the

3 Rumsey Aquatic Center, as well as Eastern Market,

4 sounds great to me, and I've, I love the idea of

5 having it continue to Union Station as well.

6 I guess that, really, what I'm saying

7 is D Street needs to be looked at more carefully

8 for, before a decision is made. So --

9 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

10 comments. Our next speaker that signed up,

11 actually, the last one that signed up, I will

12 check after that to see if anyone else would like

13 to speak, is Kimberly Mitchell. Please state

14 your name for the record, and then you'll have

15 three minutes.

16 MS. MITCHELL: Hi. Good evening. My

17 name is Kimberly Mitchell. I am a UFCW Local 400

18 member. We're unionized and this is actually the

19 first time I actually came to one of these

20 hearings, and it is amazing.

21 I want to tell you thank you for

22 putting on this show, because as far as what I

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1 can tell, and what's actually happening is really

2 one attack on one neighborhood is attack on all

3 of our neighborhoods.

4 But I used to actually work at

5 L'Enfant Plaza, and I am familiar, very much,

6 with that area, of how many tourism actually

7 comes through that location, and how they're not

8 able to get from L'Enfant Plaza down to the

9 various museums and things like that.

10 And after visiting the new location at

11 the Wharf, and everything, and going to the Bible

12 Institute, and all those things, and realizing

13 that the Hoffman Developers who developed the

14 Wharf, which, you know, made these promises

15 actually when the mayor back then actually gave

16 that piece of property away, and promised good

17 jobs and things like that, which did not take

18 place.

19 They do have jobs, but they're not

20 jobs that are able to sustain the livelihood of

21 someone. They realized that, at that particular

22 time, there was actually no transit in that area.

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1 So, you know, what I'm, what I'm

2 listening to right now is, like you said, you do

3 a study every couple of years or whatever.

4 Well, I know for a fact, in a couple

5 of years, you're going to come back and you're

6 going to be eliminating way more services to our

7 so-called communities because this is really not

8 about communities.

9 This is really about making sure that

10 that corridor is serviced, and that people get

11 back and forth to that.

12 And I would be really not shocked if

13 I sat here three years from now, and when you

14 come back with that, and probably, at that

15 particular time, I understand that our DC tax

16 dollars are paying for part of this service, and

17 part of it is privatized, but I'm pretty sure,

18 once that, the money that can be made off of this

19 service really comes to light, it will no longer

20 be a dollar. It would actually all be privatized

21 --

22 MR. MILLER: One minute.

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1 MS. MITCHELL: -- and the other, those

2 people who are actually riding the system now who

3 are unionized, who are getting decent pay and

4 decent benefits, those jobs will be gone and it

5 will be people who will be getting low wages and

6 no benefits at all.

7 So, thank you for masking this, but

8 please tell your shareholders to please think

9 about the communities, because one attack against

10 one community is an attack against all of our

11 communities. Thank you.

12 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

13 comments. Okay. I'm going to check to see if

14 anyone who signed up has arrived. Jennifer

15 Garlic? No? Okay.

16 And then, I believe the other was

17 Trina Robertson, also had signed up previously.

18 Trina, are you here? Okay.

19 So, we have a number of other folks

20 who are here. We're not sure if they wanted to

21 speak or not. Now is your opportunity.

22 Would anyone in the audience like to

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1 take their three minutes to give their public

2 comments? Yes, ma'am, in the back.

3 Oh, yes, either mic is fine. Please

4 state your name for the record. You'll have

5 three minutes.

6 MR. WELCH: Yes. Good evening. My

7 name is Jabari Welch, and I live in Hillcrest

8 Southeast, and I just want to thank our awesome

9 Commissioner Marlin who represents us.

10 I urge you all to come out to

11 Hillcrest, to the Hillcrest Association meeting,

12 as well as to our ANC meeting that's on the third

13 Wednesday, Thursday. The third Thursday of every

14 month. Every month. It's important.

15 You know, I know when people think

16 about Southeast, it's typically not in good

17 spirits, but I've got to tell you, in Hillcrest,

18 we are a very strong community, and we're

19 passionate. And so, I urge you all to come out

20 to our community. Thank you.

21 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

22 comments. Please state your name for the record,

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1 and then you'll have three minutes.

2 MS. THOMAS: My name is Kenya Thomas,

3 and I live in the Anacostia section. I'm a

4 homeowner over in Anacostia, and I think that

5 it's awful that you all are doing the Skyland

6 Circulator that way that it is.

7 There are a lot of people over there

8 that may not be out here tonight because of the

9 weather or whatever, but I am one and I speak for

10 many out there.

11 And I like the young lady and the

12 young man who spoke about Hillcrest. There are

13 other parts of Southeast that the Skyland and

14 Circulator will be affected.

15 There are a lot of people who have to

16 take their kids. Kids go to school over there.

17 And to eliminate that part of the Circulator, I

18 think, is just awful. I really do.

19 I think that you all, there's a

20 little, we had, we pay taxes out there, and we

21 are citizens.

22 Some of, most of us are homeowners

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1 over there. We need the Circulator. We really

2 do. And I think that it's just awful.

3 You all need to do a little bit better

4 than that over there. Why do we always have to

5 suffer because of what you all want to do?

6 That's all I have to say.

7 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

8 comments, ma'am. Would anyone else like to

9 provide public comments? Yes, ma'am. Please

10 state your name for the record.

11 MS. AVERY: Yes, sir. My name is Iris

12 Avery, and I heard that you all were saying Good

13 Hope Road is congested.

14 M Street, I see Circulators on M

15 Street. M Street is congested all day long.

16 Waterfront is going to be congested all day long.

17 So, don't use Good Hope Road as a

18 problem of trying to get the escalator from over

19 in that area.

20 And furthermore, when you look at the

21 map, it looks like you all are pushing the

22 Circulator more out of Southeast. And thank you.

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1 MR. MILLER: Thank you for your

2 comments. Would anyone else like to give public

3 comments? Okay.

4 We appreciate all of your comments,

5 whether you commented online or spoke tonight.

6 They are recorded the same and will be evaluated

7 the same.

8 We are happy to discuss with you

9 afterwards if you have any additional questions

10 or would like to talk to DDOT staff. Thank you

11 very much for coming out to this public hearing.

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This is to certify that the foregoing transcript

In the matter of: DC CIRCULATOR MAJOR SERVICE CHANGES

Before: DC DOT

Date: 01-04-18

Place: Washington, DC was duly recorded and accurately transcribed under my direction; further, that said transcript is a true and accurate record of the proceedings.

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