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11 Oral Answers * [ RAJYA SABHA ] - to Questions 12 11 Oral Answers * [ RAJYA SABHA ] - to Questions 12 MR. CHAIRMAN; Put a comprehen- krit or any regional language or any other sive statement on the Table of the House. language prescribed by the Central Board of Secondary Education— is provided on a compulsory basis for classes VI to VIII in Delhi Schools. While all students continue to study two languages on a compulsory basis in classes IX and X also, the Board has provided the facility of clearing the third language at the end of class VIII, If a student does not clear the third language at the end of class VIII, he has to study and pass the examination in the third language in class IX/X before taking the Board's Secondary School Examination. If sufficient number of students wish to offer Sanskrit as one of the languages for study In classes IX and X of any schools in Delhi, provision for teaching of Sanskrit will be made, if not already available. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRIES OF EDUCATION AND | CULTURE AND SOCIAL WELFARE | (SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL): (a) No, Sir. (b) Does not arise. (c) and (d) A statement i«.- laid on the Table of the Sabha. Statement The study of three languages, (i) Hindi, (ii)English and (iii) Sans- 13 Oral Answers [ 3 MARCS 1982 ] to Questions 14 Classes VI to VIII. If a student fail* to get the clearence at the end of VHI in the third language, he can get another year in Class IX and if he fails again, he gets another chance in Class X. So, we see that he clears it in classes IX and X. If he is not able to do that, he is not permitted to ait for the Secondary School Exa- mination of the Board. So, he has to take the three languages. MR. CHAIRMAN; Whether it is a fact that it is not a fact that the three -language formula has not so far... There are three negatives there. I do net know how to work it out. SHRI RAM LAKHAN PRASAD GUPTA; Three language formula is upto Class VHI. I want to say that in. Classes IX and X, that is not followed. SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL: Sir, Rule 9 of the Delhi School Education Rules, 1973 says; In the teaching of languages in Classes Vl to X, the three language formula as adopted by the Central Government shall be followed. This is being implemented by Delhi Administration according to the curriculum prescribed by the Delhi Administration. And accordingly, for Classes VI to VIII, the direction is given by the Director of Education, and for Classes IX and X by the Central Board of Secondary Education. SHRI M. R. KRISHNA: Sir .............. MR. CHAIRMAN: No, Mr. Krishna, you have had your chance. Yes, Mr. SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL; This is Sibte Razi. what I am trying to explain. In Delhi schools, the three language formula starts SHRI SYED SIBTE RAZI: Sir. may I from the early stage of Class VI in a ask the hon. Minister whether under the phased manner. Three languages, namely three-language formula it is nec-assary or Hindi, English, Sanskrit or any regional obligatory to adopt any regional language as prescribed by the Central language, which is a modern language, or Board of Secondary Education are taught is it necessary that it should be a classical from language? My submission is this: As Sanskrit has been taken by the Delhi Administration as a regional language or third 15 Oral Answers [ RAJYA SABHA ] to Questions 16 language under their formula, is it a classical language or a modern language? SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL: Sanskrit is a regional language. There are 24 languages that are taught here and Sanskrit is one of them. 17 Oral Answers [ 5 MARCH 1982 ] to Questions 18 SHRIMATI HAMIDA HAB1B- ULLAH; You have a very soft corner for Dr. Bhai Mahavir. You always allow him 3 questions. DR. BHAI MAHAVIR: Am I trying to enter the corner she has occupied? SHRIMATI HAMIDA HABIB- ULLAH; Thank you very much for allowing me. As the hon. Minister knows very well, the whole idea of three languages formula has been brought out because our children were supposed to get seats in the 3 languages that are commonly spoken in those areas, or the compulsory language Hindi. The statement that has been laid on the Table, has come out with a specific sentence: "If a student does not clear the third language at the end of class VIII, he has to study and pass the examination in the third language in class IX/X before taking the Board's Secondary School Examination." The whole idea of achieving proficiency in the three languages is completely lost by creating utter confusion in the entire 19 Oral Answers [ RAJYA SABHA ] to Questions 20 system of education as well as admin- istrative machinery. It also leads to lowering of standards. My question is, in order to achieve the aim of the three languages, whether Urdu or Sanskrit or whatever it is, would it not be better to have continuity in classes IX and X as has been asked in the main question instead of dropping it and then by ifs and buts allowing it to be studied again? I want to know from the hon. Minister whether, according to the question, continuity of the third language will always be considered so that proficiency in that language is also achieved. SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL: It depends on the student who chooses to have continuity there; he can always have it. The question is not clear enough. Let us see what Mr. Yogendra Sharma says. 'The study of three languages, viz., (i) Hindi, (ii) English and (iii) Sanskrit or any regional language or any other language prescribed by the Central Board of Secondary Education—is provided on a compulsory basis for classes Vl to VIII in Delhi School*" 21 Oral Answers [ 3 MARCH 1982 J to Questions 22 23 Oral Alliums [ RAJYA SABHA ] to Questions 24 MR. CHAIRMAN: You are stressing too much. So far as I see, your question is whether it is a fact that the three-language formula has not so far been introduced in classes IX and X. DR. BHAI MAHAVIR: Three-lan- guage formula does not mean opportunity to study three languages. It means compulsion to study three languages. Here the position in IX and X classes is that students do not have to study three languages. 25 Oral Answers [ 5 MARCH 1962 ] to Questions 26 tation is going on there. The agitation is going on in Tamil Nadu and not, for instance, in Andhra. SHRI R. MOHANARANGAM: She has said that because the non-Hindi-speaking States' people do not come forward to learn Hindi, they h*T« decided here not to teach any one of the Southern languages. She has said like that. DR. (SHRIMATI) SATHIAVANI MUTHU: She has said this in her reply. MR. CHAIRMAN: You ask a question. DR. (SHRIMATI) SATHIAVANI MUTHU: That is what I am asking. The agitation is going on only in Tamil Nadu. Only we people are against Hindi. Here I see hon. Ministers from Andhra speaking Hindi, also from Karnataka, they speak Hindi. So many Ministers belonging to the Southern States speak Hindi very well. My question is, why not the schools in Delhi take up at least Telugu or Malayalam or one of the South Indian languages? What is the objection to their taking it up? I want a categorical reply from the Minister. SHRI NARASINGHA PRASAD MR. CHAIRMAN; I think I will give you NANDA Madam, vanakkam. Half-an-Hour discussion and you can discuss : it further SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL; I want to make this point very clear. I did not use the DR. (SHRIMATI) SATHIAVANI words that there was an agitation in the South MUTHU: Since this is the last question, on the language problem. Please get the please allow me to put only one question. record cleared. I did not use those words. While the Minister was replying, she said that DR. (SHRIMATI) SATHIAVANI because there is an agitation in the South, MUTHU: You said this. Please see the nobody is taking the Southern languages in records. If that is not so, I think it is better she the Delhi Schools. Sir, so far as I know and gives a correction. every body knows ... SHRI R. MOHANARANGAM: Kindly see SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL: No, there is the record. She said that because the non- no agitation in the South. Hindi-speaking States did not follow Hindi, so DR. (SHRIMATI) SATHIAVANI they have decided not to take up one of the South-Indian languages here. MUTHU: Just now* you said that. MR. CHAIRMAN: I think not that way. MR. CHAIRMAN; I will have a look. If it was not her intention to SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL; No. DR. (SHRIMATI) SATHIAVANI MUTHU: She said that the reason because they are not taking South Indian languages here is that an agi- 27 Oral Answers [ RAJ'S A SABHA ] to Questions 28 say that, the hon. Minister may make I a from mechanically propelled vehicles and correction later. That is all right. I know not from all vehicles. It is to be what is troubling you. It is a slur on the discontinued as soon as the f»U.. cost of other States. We will pass on to Question the bridge including maintenance upto the No. 183. I am i giving a Half-an Hour date of discontinuance has been fully Discussion on this. recovered. Mr. Mathur, you will write to me Revenue from these fees is credited to about this.
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