Monday, July 21, 1975 Asadha 30, 1897(Saka)
LOK SABHA DEBATES
(FIFTH SERIES)
V o l L I V
Fourteenth Session, 1975/1897 (Saks)
{Vol. L IV contains Nos. 1 1 — 14)
LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI CONT ENTS
(Fifth Series, Vol. Lin, Fourteenth S*m1o » ,I 97 s]
N o. i — Monday, July 21, \<)7$\A$adha 30, 1897 (Saha)
C olumns Alphabetical List of Members ...... (iii)— (xii)
Officers of the House ...... (xiii)
Li»t of M-iinbsrh of Cablet ...... (xiv)
Minister of State and Deputy Ministers...... (xv)— xvii)
Obituary References ...... 1— 6 (Deaths of Sarvashri D. P. Dhar, B . N. Mandal and Ramachandra Jf. Amin) .
Papers Laid on the T a b l e ...... 7— 25
Announcement Re. Panel of Chairmen ...... 26
Motion Re. Business to be taken up in th * Session and suspension of certain Rules of Procedure ...... 26— 72
Shri K. Raghu Ramaiah ...... 26—.27* 60— 6a Shri Indrajit Gupta ...... 28-29, 38—42 Shri Erasmo de Sequeira...... 43—>44
Shri Mohan D haria...... 44—46
Shri P. G. M avalankar...... 46— 49
Shri S. A. Shamim ......
Prof. S. L. Sataena . .... 50—53
Shri K. S. C ty^ a ...... S3
Shri % % a n e r j e e ...... S*~$4
Shri Sft&uoh Clutt^rjcc , . ... 54__ 60
Statutory Resolution R t. Approval of Proclamation of Ji.nergency . g 73— 197
Shri Jagjivan Ram ...... 73—87
Shri A. K. Oopalan . . . . $7— 103
Shri C. M. Stephen...... 103— 10 •4* Shri Indrajit G u p ta...... n o— Columns
Shri ». R, B h a g a t...... 128— 36
Shri Jagannathrao J o a h i...... 136— 34
Shri Bhagn%iaJhrf'A*Wt1 ...... 154—67
Shri Sezhfytft...... 167—79
Shri Dineth Chandra Goswami...... 179—85
Shri P. M. M e h t a ...... i 8 d-*-9 i
Shri Vasant S a t h e ...... 191— 97
Attest of Member ...... *98 (Shri Narandra Singh) a l p h a b e t ic a l l i s t o f m e m b e h s
FIFTH LOK SABHA
A Balakrishnan, Shri K. (Ambalapuzha) Alagesan, Shri O. V. (Tiruttani) Achal Singh, Shri (Agra) Banamali Babu, Shri (Sambalpur) Aga, Shri Syed Ahmed (Baramulla) Banera, Shri Hamendra Singh Agarwal, Shri Virendra (Moradabad) (Bhilwara) Agrawal, Shri Shrikrishna (Mahasa- Banerjee, Shri S. M. (Kanpur) mund) Banerjee, Shrimati Mukul Ahirwar, Shri Nathu Ram (New Delhi) (Tikamgarh) Barman, Shri R. N. (Balurghat) Alagesan, Shri O. V. (Tiruttani) Barua, Shri Bedabrata (Kaliabor) Ambesh, Shri Chhatrapati (Firozabad) Barupal Shri Panna Lai (Ganganagar) Anand Smgh. Shri (Gonda) Basappa, Shri K. (Chitradurga) Amkneedu, Shri Maganti (Gudivada) Basumatari, Shri D. (Kokrajhar) Ansari, Shri Ziaur Rahman (Unnao) Berwa, Shri Onkar Lai (Kota) Anthony, Shri Frank (Nominated— Besra, Shri S. C. (Dumka) Anglo-Indians) Bhagat, Shri B. R. (Shahabad) Appalanaidu, Shri (Anakapalli) Bhagat, Shri H. K. L. (East Delhi) Arvind Netam, Shri (Kanker) Bhagirath Bhanwar, Shri (Jhabua) Austin, Dr. Henry (Ernakulam) Bhargava, Shri Basheshwar Nath Awdhesh Chandra Singh, Shri (Ajmer) (Farrukhabad) Bhargavi Thankappan, Shrimati Azad, Shri Bhagwat Jha (Adoor) (Bhagalpur) Bhatia, Shri Raghunandan Lai Aziz Imam, Shri (Mirzapur) (Amritsar) Bhattacharyya, Shri Dinen B (Serampore) Bhattacharyya, Shri Jagadish Babunath Singh, Shri (Surguja) (Gfratal)
Badal, Shri Gurdas Singh (Fazilka) Bhattacharyya, Shri S. P. (Uluberia) Bad<$, Shri R. V. (Khargone) Bhattacharyyia, Shri Chapalendu Bajpai, Shri Vidya Dhar (Amethi) ♦il» (Giridih)
(iii) 1113 LS-~2. Bhaura, Shri B. S. (Bhatinda) Chavan, Shri Yeahwantno (Satara)
Bheeshmadev, Shri 11 Chavda, Shri K. S. (Patan) (Nfcgarkurnool) Chellacfewni, A. M. (Tenkasi) Bhuvarahan, Shri G. (Mettur) Chhotey Lai* Shri (Chail)
Birender Singh Rao, Shri (Mahendra- Chhutten Lai, Shri (Sawai garh) Madhopur) Chikkalingjaiah, Shri K. (Mandya) Bisht, Shri Narendra Singh (Almora) Chinnaraji, Shri C. K. (Tirupattur) Bosu, Shri Jyolirmoy (Diamond Harbour) Chittibabu, Shri C. (Chingleput) Choudhari, Shri B. E. (Bijapur) Brahman, Shri Battanlal (Darjeeling) Choudhury, Shri Moinul Haque Brahmanandji, Shri Swami (Dhubri) (Hamirpur) Chowhan, Shri Bharat Singh (Dhar) Brij Raj Singh—Kotah, Shri (Jhalawar) D Buta Singh, Shri (Rupar) Daga, Shri M. C. tPali)
C Dalbir Singh, Shri (Sirsa) Dalip Singh, Shr* (Outer Delhi) Ch&kleshwar Singh, Shri (Mathura) Damani, Shri S. R. (Sholapur) Chandra Gowda, Shri D. B, (Chika- magalur) Dandavate, Prof. Mad'hu (Rajapur) Chandra Shekher Singh, Shri Darbara Singh, Shri (Hoshiarpur) (Jehanabad) Das, Shri Anadi Charan (Jaipur) Chandrakar, Shri Chandutal (Durg) Das, Shri Dharnidhar (Mangaldai) Chandrappan, Shri C. K (Tellicherry) Das, Shri R. P. (Krishnagar) Chandrashekharappa Veerabasappa, Dasappa, Shri Tulsidas (Mysore) Shri T, V. (Shimoga) Da^chowdhury Shri B, K, (Cooch- Chandrika Prasad. Shri (Ballia) Behar) Ohutterjee, Shri Somnath Deb, Shri Dasaratha (Tripura East) (Burdwan) Deiveekan, Shri (Kallakurichi) Chaturvedi, Shri Rohan Lai (Etah) Deo, Shri P. K. (Kalahandi) Chaudhary, Shri Amarsinh (Mandvi) Deo, Shri R. R. Singh (Bolangir) Chaudhary, Shri Nitiraj Singh Deo, Shri S. N. Singh (Bankura) (Hoshangabad) Desai, Shri D. D. (Kaira) CSmudhry, Shri Ishwar (Gaya) Desai, Shri Morarji (Surat) Chaudhury, Shri Tridib (Berhampore) Deshmukh, Shri K. G. (Amravati) Chavan, Shimati Premalabai Deshmukh, Shri Shivaji Rao 3, Dajisaheb (Karad) (Parabhani) - -fs) 3lWlg»wid», Bhriwwtl Bon Vldyadhar Gayatri Devi, Shrimati (Jaipur) (Bomtny Central) Genda Singh, Shri (Padrauna) Dhamankar, Shri (Bhiwandi) George, Shri A. C. (Mukandapuram) Dhandapani, Shri C. T. (Dhara- George, Shri Varkey (Kotfcayam) purazn) Ghosh, Shri P. K. (Ranchi) Dharamgaj Singh, Shri (Shahbad) Gill, Shri Mohinder Singh Dharia, Shri Mohan (Poona) (Ferozepore) Dhillon, Dr. G. S. (Taran Taran) Giri, Shri S. B. (Warangal) Dhote, Shri Jambuwant (Nagpur) Giri, Shri V. Shanker (Damoh) Dhusia, Shri Anant Prasad (Basti) Godara, Shri Mani Ram (Hissar) Dinesh Singh, Shri (Pratapgarh) Godfrey, Shrimati M. (Nominated— Dixit, Shri G. C. (Khandwa) Anglo-Indians) Dixit, Shri Jagdish Chandra Goenka, Shri R. N. (Vidisha) (Sitapur) Gogoi, Shri Tarun (Jorhat) Doda, Shri Hiralal (Bans war a) Gohain, Shri C. C. (Nominated— Dube, Shri J. P. (Bhandara) North East Frontier Tract of Assam) Dumada, Shri L K. (Dahanu) Gokhale, Shri H. R. (Bombay— Durairasu, Shri A. (Perambalur) North-West) Dutta, Shri Biren (Tripura West) Gomango, Shri Giridhar (Koramit) Dwivedi, Shri Nageshwar Gopal, Shri K. (Karur) (Machhlishahr) Gopalan, Shri A. K. (Palghat)
E Goswami, Shrimati Bibha Ghosh (Nabadwip) Engti, Shri Biren (Diphu) Goswami, Shri Dinesh Chandra (Gauhati) G Gotkhinde, Shri Ann-asaheb (Sangli) Gowda, Shri Pampan (Raichur) Gaekwad, Shri Fatesinghrao (Baroda) Gowder, Shri J. Matha (Nilgiris) Gandhi. Shrimati Indira (Bae Bareli) Guha, Shri Samar (Contai) <*anesh, Shri K. R. (Andaman & Gupta, Shri Indrajit (Alipore) Nicobar Islands) Ganga Devi, Shrimati (Mohanlal- ganj) H Gangadeb, Shri P. (Angul) Haidar, Shri Madhuryya (Mathura- ‘Garcha, Shri Devinder Singh pur) (Ludhiana) Haider, Shri Krishna Chandra Gautam, Shri C. D. (Balaghat) (Anagram) Gavit, Shri T. H. (Nandurbar) Hansda, Shri Subodh (Midnapore) fvi)
Hanumanthaiya, Shri K. (Bangalore) kadannappalli, Shri Ramachandrfcn > (Kasergod) Hari Kishore Singh, Shri (Pupri) Kader, Shri S. A. (Bombay—-Central Hari Singh, Shri (Rhurja) • South) Hashim, Shri M. M. (Secunderabad) Kahandole. Shri Z. M. (Malegaon) Hazra, Shri Manoranjan (Arambagh) Kailas, Dr. (Bombay South) Horo, Shri N, E. (Khunti) Kakodkar, Shri Purushottam Hyda, Shri Noorul (Cachar) (Panjim) Kakoti, Shri Robin (Dibrugarh) I Kale, Shri (Jalna) Ishaque, Shri A. K. M. (Basirhat) Kalingarayar, Shri Mohanraj Ismail Hossain Khan, Shri (Barpeta) (Poll-achi) J Kalyanasundaram, Shri M. (Tiruchirapalli) Jadeja, Shri D. P. (Jamnagar) Kamakshaiah, Shri D. (Nellore) Jaffer Sharief, Shri C. K. (Kanaka- pura) Kamala Prasad, Shri (Tczpur) Jagjivan Bam, Shri (Sasaram) Kamaraj, Shri K. (Nagercojl) Jamilurrahman, Shri Md. (Kishan- Kamble, Shri N. S. (Pandharpur) ganj) Kamble, Shri T. D. (Latur) Janardhanan, Shri C. (Trichur) Kamla Kurrvari, Kumari (Palamau) Jeyalakshmi, Shrimati V. (Sivakasi) Kapur, Shri Sat Pal (Patiala) Jha, Shri Bhogendra (Jainagar) Karan Singh, Dr. (Udhampur) Jha, Shri Chiranjib (Saharsa) Karm Singh, Dr. (Bikaner) Jharkhande Rai, Shri (Ghosi) Kasture, Shri A. S. (Khamgaon) Jhunjhunwala, Shri Bishwanatn Kathamuthu, Shri M. (Nagapattinam) (Chittorgarh) Kaul, Shrimati Sheila (Lucknow) Jitendra Prasad, Shri (Shahjalranpur) Kavde, Shri B. R. (Nasik) Joarder, Shri Dinesh (Malda) Kedar Nath Singh, Shri (Sultanpur) Joseph, Shri M. M. (Peermade) Kevichusa. Shri A. (Nagaland) Joshi, Shri Jagannathrao (Shajapur) Khadilkar, Shri R. K. (Baramati) Joshi, Shri Popatlal M. (Banaskantha) Kinder Lai. Shri (Hardoi) Joshi, Shrimati Subhadra (Chandni Chowk) Kiruttinan, Shri Tha (Sivaganja)
K Kisku, Shri A. K. (Jhargram) Kadam, Shri Dattajirao (Hatkangale) Kotoki, Shri Liladhar (Nowgong)
Kachwai, Shri Hukam Chand Kotrashetti, Shri A. K, (Belgaum) (Morena) Kadam, Shri J. G. (Wardha) Koya, Shri C. H. Mohamed (Manjerl) (vU)
Krishna Kwnari. Shrimati (Jodhpur) Malik, Shri Mukhtiar Singh (Rohtak) v Krishnan, Shri £. B, (Salem) Mallanna, Shri K. (Madhugiri) Krishnan, Shri G. Y. (Kolar) Mallikarjun, Shri (Medak) Krishnan, Shri M. K. (Ponnani) Mandal, Shri Jagdish Narain (Godda) Krishnan, Shrimati Parvathi (Coim Mandal, Shri Yamuna Prasad (Sama- batore) stipur) Krishnappa, Shri M. V. (Hoskote) Manhar, Shri Bhagatram (Janjgir) Kulkarni, Shri Raja (Bombay—North- Manjhi, Shri Bhola (Jamui) East) Manoharan, Shri K. (Madras—North) Kurcel, Shri B. N, (Ramsanehighat) Marak, Shri K. (Tura) Kushok Bakula, Shri (Ladakh) Maran, Shri Murasoli (M adras- South L Martand Singh, Shri (Rewa) Maurya, Shri B. P. (Hapur) Lukkappa, Shri K. (Tumkur) Lakshmanan, Shri T. S. (Sriperum- Mavalankar, Shri P. G. (Ahmedabad) budur) Mayathevar, Shri K. (Dindigul) Lakf,hmikanthamma, Shrimati T. Mayavan, Shri V. (Chidambaram) (Khammam) Mehta, Dr. Jivraj (Amreli) Lakshminarayanan. Shri M. R. (Tin- dxvanam> Mehta, Dr. Mahipatray (Kutch) Jjalji Bhai, Shri (Udaipur) Mehta, Shri P. M. (Bhavnagar) Lambodar Baliyar, Shri (Bastar) Melkote, Dr. G. S. (Hyderabad) Laskai, Shri Nihar (Karimganj) Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram (Nagpur) Limayc, Shri Madhu (Banka) Mishra, Shri Bibhuti (Motihari) Lutfal Haque, Shri (Jangipur) Mishra, Shri G. S. (Chhindwara) Mishra, Shri Jagannath (Madhubani) M Mishra, Shri Shyamnandan (Begu- sarai) Madhukar, Shri K. M. (Kesaria) Misra, Shri Janeshwar (Allahabad) Mahajan, Shri Vikram (Kangra) Misra, Shri S. N. (Kannauj) Mahajan, Shri Y. S. (Buldana) Modak, Shri Bijoy (Hooghly) Msharaj Singh, Shri (Mainpuri) Modi, Shri Shrikishan (Sikar) Mahishi, Dr. Sarojini (Dharwar— Mody, Shri fciloo (Godhra) North r Majhi, Shri Gajadhar (Sundargarh) Mohammad Ismail. Shri (Barrack- pore) Majhi, Shri Kumar (Keonjhar) Mohammad Tahir, Shri (Pumea) Malaviya, Shri K, D. (Domariaganj) Malhotra, Shri Indfir J. (Jammu) Mohammad Yusuf, Shri (Siwan) 1(W)
m i m Swa*up, Shri (PiUbhit) P
Mohaniy, Shti Surendra {ftendra- Pahadia, Shri Jagannath (Hindaun) para) Painuli, Shri Paripoomattand (Tehrik , Jtfohapatra* Shri Shyam Sunder Garhwal) (&alasore) Pajanor, Shri Aravinda Bala (Pondi Mohsin, Shri F. H. (Dharwai^- cherry) South) Palodkar, Shri Manikrao (Auranga Mohammed K'huda Buksh, Shri bad) (Murshidabad) Panda, Shri D. K. (Bhanjanagar) Muhatamed Sheriff, Shri (Peri- akulam) Pandey, Shri Damodar (Hazaribagh) Mukherjee, Shri H. N. (Calcutta— Pandey, Shri Krishna Chandra North-3&ast) (Khalilabad) Mukherjee, Shri Samar (Howrah) Pandey, Shri Narsingh Narain (Gorakhpur) Mukherjee, Shri Saroj (Katwa) Pandey, Shri R. S. (Rajnandgaon) Munsi, Shtf Prya Banjan Das (Cal cutta—South) Pandey, Shri Sarjoo (Ghazipur) Murmu* Shri Yogesh Chandra (Raj- Pandey, Shri Sudhakar (Chandauli) mahal) Pandey, Shri Tarkeshwar (Salempur) Murthy, Shri B. S. (Amalapuram) Pandey a, Dr. Laxminarain (Mand- Muruganantham, Shri S. A. (Tirunel- saur) veli) Pandit, Shri S. T. (Bhir) Muthuswamy, Shri M. (Tiruchengode) Panigrahi, Shri Chintamani (Bhuba neswar) W Pant, Shri K. C. (Nainital)
Nahata, Shri Amrit (Barmer) Paokai Haokip, Shri (Outer Manipur) Naik, JShri B. V. (Kanara) Parashar, Prof. Narain Chand (Hamir- pur) Nair, Shri N. Srcekantan (Quilon) Nanda, Shri G. L. (Kaithal) Parikh, Shri Rasiklal (Surendra- nagar) Narendra Singh, Shri (Satna) Parmar, Shri Bhaljibhai (Dohad) Nayak, Shri Baksi (Phulbanl) Nayar, Sbrimati Shakuntala (Kaisar- Parthasarathy, Shri P. (Rajampet) ganj) Paswan, Shri Ram Bhagat (Rosera) Negi„ Shri Pratap Singh (Garhwal) Patel, Shri Arvind M. (Rajkot) Nimbalkar, Shri (Kolhapur) Patel, Shri M. M. (Dhandhuka) O Patel, Kumari Maniben VallabhbhaL (Saharkantha) Oradn, Shri Kartik (Lohardga)
Oraon, Shri Tuna (Jalpaiguri) Patel, Shri Nantifcfcai If. (Bulsar) < i* )
Rum Hedaoo, Shri (Raitatek) jtatel, Shri Natwarlal (Mehsana) Ram Prakash, Shri (Ambala) Patel, Shri Prabhudas (Dabhoi) Ram Sewak, Ch. (Jalaun) Patel* Shri R. R. (Dadra and Nagar Haveli) Ram Singh Bhai, Shri (Indore) Patil, Shri Anantrao (Khed) Ram Surat Prasad, Shri (Bansgaoa) Patil, Shri C A. (Dhulia) Ram Swarup, Shri (Robertaganj) Patil, Ehri E. V. Vikhe (Kopargaon) Ramji Ram, Shri (Akbarprur) Patil, Shri Krisnarao (Jalgaon) Ramkanwar, Shri (Tonk) PatU, Shri S. B, (Bagalkot) Ramshekhar Prasad Singh, Shri (Chapra) Patil, Shri T. A. (Osmanabad) Ranabahadur Singh, Shri (Sidhi) Patnaik, Shri Banamali (Puri) Rao, Shrimati B. Radhabai (Bha- Patnaik, Shri J. B. (Cuttack) drachalam) Peje, Shri S. L. (Ratnagiri) Rao, Shri J. Rameshwar (Mahbub- Pillai, Shri R, Balakrishna (Maveli- nagar) kara) Rao, Shri Jagannath (Chatrapur) Prabodh Chandra, Shri (Gurdaspur) Rao, Dr. K. L. (Vijayawada) Pradhan, Shri Dhan Shah (Shahdol) Rao, Shri K. Narayana (Bobilli) Pradhani, Shri K. (Nowrangpur) Rao, Shri M. S. Sanjeevi (Kakinada) Purti, Shri M S. (Singhbhum) Rao, Shri M. Satyanarayan (Karim- nagar) Q Qureshi, Shri Mohd. Shafi (Anant- Rao, Shri Nageshwara (Machilipat- nag) nam) Rao, Shri P. Ankineedu Prasad R (Angole)
Radhakrishnan, Shri S. (Cuddalore) Rao, Shri Pattabhi Rama (Rajamun- dry) Raghu Ramaiah, Shri K. (Guntur) Rao, Shri Rajagopala (Srikakulam) Rai, Shrimati Sahodrabai (Sagar) Rao, Dr. V. K. R. Varadaraja Raj Bahadur, Shri (Bharatpur) (Bellary) Rajdeo Singh, Shri (Jaunpur) Rathia, Shri Umed Singh (Raigarh) Raut, Shri Bhola (Bagaha) Raju, Shri M. T. (Narasapur) Ravi, Shri Vayalar (Chirayinkil) Raju, Shri P. V. G. (Vzaakhapatnam) Ray, Shrimati Maya (Raiganj) Ram, Shri Tulmohan (Araria) Reddi, Shri P. Antony (Anantapur) Ram DayaS, Shri (Bijnor) Reddy, Shri B. (Niryajguda) Ram D«*» Sintfh, Shri (Maharajganj) Reddy* Shxi K. Kodaada Rami (S u n ' tfcltti Shri (Lalganj) stool) Reddy, Shri K. Ramakrishna (Nal- Satpathy, Shri Devendra (Dhenkanal) gondo) Satyanarayana, Shri B. (Parvathipu- Reddy, Shri M. Ram Gopal (Nizaraa- ram) bad) Savant, Shri Shankerrao (Kolaba) Reddy, Shri P. Bayapa (Hindpur) Savitri Shy am, Shrimati (Aonla) Reddy, Shri P. Ganga (Adilabad) Sayeed, Shri P. M. (Laccadive, Mini- Reddy, Shri P( Narasimha (Chittoor) coy and Amindivi Islands) Reddy, Shri P. V. (Kavali) Scindia, Shri Madhavrao (Guna) Reddy, Shri Sidram (Gulbarga) Scindia, Shrimati V. R. (Bhind) Reddy, Shri Y. Eswara (Cuddapah) Sen, Shri A. K. (Calcutta—North- West) Richhariya, Dr. Govind Das (Jhansi) Sen, Dr. Ranen (Barasat) Rohatgi, Shrimati Sushila (Bilhaur) Roy, Shri Bishwanath (Deoria) Sen, Shri Robm (Asansol) Roy, Dr. Saradteh (Bolpur) Sequeria, Shri Erasmo dc (Maimagao) Rudra Pratap Singh, Shri (Bara Sethi, Shri Arjun (Bhadrak) Banki) Sezhiyan, Shri (Kumbakonam) Shafee, Shri A. (Chanda) S Shafquat Jung, Shri (Kairana) Sadhu Ram, Shri (Phillaur) Shahnawaz Khan, Shri (Meerut) Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar (Vishnupur) Shailani, Shri Chandra (Hathras) Saha, Shri Gadadhar (Birbhum) Shakya, Shri Maha Deepak Singh (Kasganj) Saini, Shri Mulki Raj (Dehra Dup) Shambhu Nath, Shri (Saidpur) Sait, Shri Ebrahim Suiaiman (Kozhi kode) Shamim, Shri S. A. (Srinagar) Saksena, Prof. S. L. (Maharajganj) Shankar Dayal Singh, Shri (Chatm) Salve, Shri N. K. P. (Betul) Shankar Dev, Shri (Bidar) Samanta, SJiri S. C. (Tamluk) Shankaranand, Shri B. (Chikodi) Sambhali, Shri Ishaque (Amroha) Sharma, Shri A. P. (Buxar) Saminathan, Shri P. A. (Gobichetti- palayam) Sharma, Dr. H. P. (Alwar)
Sanghi, Shri N. K. (Jalore) Sharma, Shri Madhoram (Karnal) Sangliana, Shri (Mizoram) Sharma, Shri Nawal Kishore (Dausa) Sankata Prasad, Drt (Misrikh) Sharma, Shri Ra N. (Dhan'bad) Sant Bux Singh, Shri (Ftehpur) Sarkar, Shri Sakti Kumar (Joynagar) Sharma, Shri R. R- (Banda) Sathe, Shri Vasant (Akola) Sharma, Dr. Shankar Dayal (Bhopal)
Satish Chandra,. Shri (Bareilly) Shashi Bhushan, Shri (South Delphi) Shastri, Shri Biswanaryan (Lakhim- Stephen, Shri C. M. (Muvattupuzha) pur)v Subram aniam, Shri C. (Krishnagiri) Shastri, Shri Raja Ram (Varanasi) Subravelu, Shri (Mayuram)
Shastri, Shri Ramavatar (Patna) Sudarasanam, Shri M. (Narasaraopet) Sunder Lai, Shri (Saharanpur) Shastri, Shri Sheopujan (Bikram- ganj) Surendra Pal Singh, Shri (Buland- sihahr) Shastri, Shri Shiv Kumar (Aligarh) Suryanarayana, Shri K. (Eluru) Shenoy, Shri P. R. (Udipi) Swaminathan, Shri R. V, (Madurai) Sher Singh, Prof. (Jhajjar) Swamy, Shri Sidrameshwar (Koppal) Shetty, Shri K. K. (Mangalore) Swaran Singh, Shri (Jullundur) Shinde, Shri Annasaheb P. (Ahmed- Swell, Shri G. G. (Autonomous Dis nagar) tricts) Shivappa, Shri N. (Hassan) Shivnath Singh, Shri (Jhunjhunu) T Shukla, Shri B. R. (Bahraich) Tarodekar, Shri V. B. (Nanded) Shukla, Shri Vidya Charan (Raipur) Tayyab Hussain, Shri (Gurgaon) Siddavya, Shri S M. (Chamaraja- Tewari, Shri Shankar (Etawah) nagar) Thakre, Shri S. B. (Yeotmal) Siddheshwar Prasad, Prof. (Nalanda) Thakur, Shri Kishnarao (Chimur) Singh, Shri D. N- (Hajipur) Thevar, Shri P. K. M. (Bamanatha- Singh, Shri Vishwanath Pratap puram) (Phulpur) Tiwari, Shri Chandra Bhal Mani Sinha, Shri C. M. (Mayurbhanj) (Bair am pur) Sinha, Shri Dharam Bir (Barh) Tiwari, Shri R. G. (Bilaspur) Sinha, Shri Nawal Kishore (Muzaffar- Tiwari, Shri D. N. (Gopalganj) pur) Tombi Singh, Shri N. (Inner Manipur) Sinha, Shri R. K. (Faizabad) Tula Ram, Shri (Ghatampur) Sinha, Shri Satyendra Narayan (Au rangabad) Tulsiram, Shri V. (Peddapalli)
Sivaswamy, Shri M. S. (Tiruchendur) U Sohan Lai, Shri T. (Karol Bagh) Uikey, Shri M. G. (Mandla) Sokhi, Sardar Swaran Singh (Jam shedpur) Ulaganambi, Shri R. P. (Vellore) Solanki, Shri Pravinsinh (Anand) Unnikrishnan, Shri K. P. (Badagara)
Solankl, Shri Somchand (Gandhi V nagar) Somasundaram, Shri S. D. (Than- Vajpayee, Shri Atal Bihari (Gwalior) javur) Veeriah, Shri K. (Pudukkottai) Vdra&a, Shri (Junagadh) Yadav, Shti Chandrajit (Azamgarh>
VenkatasulJbiah, Shri P. (flfandyal) Yadav, Shri D. P, (Monghyr) Venkatswamy, Shri G. (Siddipet) Yadav, Shri G. P. (Katihar) Verma, Shri Balgovind OKheri) Yadav, Shri Karan Singh (Budaun> Verma, Shri Phool Chand (ttjjaiti) Verma, Shri Sukhdeo Prasad Yadav, Shri N. P. (Sitamarhi) ^Nawada) Yadav, Shri It P. (Madhepura) Vidyalankar, Shri Amarnath (Chandi garh) Yadav, Shri Sharad (Jabalpur) Vij$y Pal Singh, Shri (Muzaffar- Yadav, Shri Shiv Shankar Prasad nagar) (Khagaria) Vikal, Shri Ram Chandra (Baghpat) Virbhadra Singh, Shri (Mandi) Z Vishwanathan, Shri G. (Wandiwash) Zulfiquar Ali Khan, Shri (Bampur) LOK SABHA
The Speaker
Dr. G. S. Dhillon
The Deputy-Speaker
Shri G. G. Swell
Panel of Chairmen
Shri Bhagwat Jha Azad Shri H. K. L. Bhagat Shri Ishaque Sambhali Shri Vasant Sathe Shri C. M. Stephen Shri G. Viswanathan
Secretary-General Shri 9. L. Shakdher
c m GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
M em be rs o f C a b in e t
"The Prime Minister, Minister of Shrimati Indira Gandhi Atomic Energy, Minister of Elec tronics, Minister of Space, Minister of Planning and Minister of Science and Technology The Minister of External Affairs Shu Y. B. Chavan The Minister of Agriculture and Irri Shri Jagjivan Ram gation The Minister of Defence Sardar Swaran Smgh The Minister of Shipping and Trans Shri Umashankar Dikshlt port The Minister of Law, Justice and Shri H R Gokhale Company Affairs The Minister of Petroleum and ^hri Keshav Deo Maiaviya Chemicals The Minister of Industry and Civil Shri T A Pai Supplies The Minister of Works and Housing Shri K Raghu Rdmaiah and Parliamentary Affairs The Minister of Tourism and Civil Shri Raj Bahadur Aviation The Minister of Home Affairs Shri K. Brahmananda Reddy The Minister of Communications Shri Shankar Dayal Sharma The Minister of Health and Family Dr Karan Smgh Planning The Minister of Finance Shri C. Subramaniam The Minister of Railways Shri Kamlapati Tripathi
MINISTERS OF STATE INCHARGE OF MINISTRIES/DEPARTMENTS
The Minister of Commerce Prof. D. P. Chattopadhyaya
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri I. K. Gujral of Planning
The Minister of Supply and Rehabili Shri R. K. Khadilkar tation
(*» V) (XV )
The Minister of Education, Social Prof S. Nurul Hasan Welfare and Culture The Minister of Energy Shri K. C. Pant The Minister of Labour Shri K. V. Raghunatha Reddy The Minister of Steel and Mines Shri Chandrajit Yadav
MINISTERS OF STATE
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri K. R. Ganesh of Petroleum and Chemicals
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri A. C. George of Industry and Civil Supplies
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Shah Nawaz Khan of Agriculture and Irrigation
The Minister of State in the Ministry Dr. (Smt.) Sarojini Mahishi of Law, Justice and Company Affairs
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri B. p, Maurya of Industry and Civil Supplies
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Om Mehta of Home Affairs, Department of Personnel and Administrative Reforms and Department of Parlia mentary Affairs
The Minister of State (Defence Pro Shri Ram Niwas Mirdha duction) in the Ministry of Defence
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Pranab Kumar Mukherjee of Finance
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Mohd. Shaft Qureshi of Railways
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Anant Prasad Sharma of Industry and Civil Supplies
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Annasahib P. Shinde of Agriculture and Irrigation
The Minisfer of State in the Ministry Shri Vidya Charan Shukla and Broadcasting
The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Surendra Pal Singh of Tourism and Civil Aviation'
The Minister of State in' the Ministry Shri H. M. Trivedi of Shipping and Transport d e p u t y m in is t e r s 'The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Ziaur Bahman A&iari of Industry and Civil Supplies
The Deputy Minister in4 the Ministry Shri Bedabrata Barua of Law, Justice and Company Affaire
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Bipinpal Das of External Affairs
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri A. K: M. Ishaque of Health and Family Planning
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri C. P. Majhi of Petroleum and Chemicals
.The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri F. H. Mohsin of Home Affairs
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Arvind Netam of Education and Social Welfare and in the Department of Culture
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Jagannath Pahadia of Communications
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Prabhudas Patel of Agriculture and Irrigation
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Janaki Ballav Patnaik of Defence
The Deputy Minister in the Depart Shri B. Shankaranand ment of Parliamentary Affairs
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Prof. Siddheshwar Prasad of Energy
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Sukhdev Prasad of Steel and Mines
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi of Finance
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Buta Singh of Railways
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Dalbir Singh of Works, and Housing
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Kedar Nath Singh of Agriculture and Irrigation 1
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh of Commerce (xvii)
Hie Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Dharam Bir Sinha of Information and Broadcasting
The Deputy Minister in theMinistry Shri G. Venkat Swamy of Supply and Rehabilitation
The Deputy Minister in the Ministry Shri Balgovind Verma of Labour
The Deputy Minister in' the Ministry Shri D. P. Yadav of Education and Social Welfare and in the Department of Culture LOK SABHA DEBAtES ' ' ■ ■ J...1 ' 1 ■ ■ 1 1 1 " " T [ ...... a....1... t.( , .fi.i ' ; "" ^ »l»^—. n„»l> V cl, L I U First Day of the Fourteenth Session of theNo* / Fifth Lok Sabha
tO K SABHA was concurrently Ambassador to Mongolia. It is during his steward* Monday, Inly 21, lW&/A*adha 30, ship as Ambassador to U.S.S.R. that 1897 (Saka) India developed closer relations with that country with maturer understand The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the ing of each other’s foreign policies •. • < C lock •» , f and political ideologies and also 3 (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) Treaty of Peace, Friendship and Co operation was signed between the two OBITUARY REFERENCES countries. He showed his diplomatic acumen while dealing with a very MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I delicate situation when Bangladesh have to inform the House of the sad was struggling for its liberation and demise of three of our former collea our country was also involved in the gues who passed away after termina conflict with Pakistan. After ih« tion of the last session, namely, Shri liberation of Bangladesh he was ap D. P. Dhar, Shri B. N. Mandal and pointed the Chairman of the Policy Shn Ramachandra J. Amin. Planning Committee in the Ministry of External Affairs in 1971. He led the Indo-Pak officials* talks which Shri D. P. Dhar, as you all know, concluded in historic Simla Agree was one of the pioneering figures ment between India and Pakistan. amongst the diplomats and parliamen Shri Dhar was then appointed as tarians of our country. He served Union Minister of Planning and De the people in diverse capacities and puty Chairman of the Planning Com held various offices with dignity and mission in 1972. He was also elected ability. Starting his career as a law as Member of the Bajya Sabha in yer, he joined the freedom movement 1972. He resigned the office of Minis* of our country in 1934 and suffered im ter early this year and again assumed prisonment a number of times. After the office of our Ambassador to the independence, he was Member of the U.S.S.R. As a Minister he parti Jammu and Kashmir Constituent cipated in the proceedings of this Assembly during 1951—56, of Jammu House on a number of occasions and and Kashmir Legislative Assembly his charming personality, his highly during 1056—61 and that of the Jammu sophisticated manners and literary and Kashmir Legislative Council background, dignified way of address during 1981—68. He was a Minister ing the House, parliamentary skill in the Jammu *nd Kashmir Govern and above all his parliamentary wit ment for nearly eight years, i.e* during are still fresh to all of us. He had 1961—68 holding different important come to India to have consultations portfolios in the State Government with the Government when he was like Home, Finance, Planning, Educa taken ill and suffered a heart attatk- tion, Industries an& Agriculture, *tc. His end came rather suddenly and He was a member of the Indian Dele he passed away on the 12th £un®’ gation to the tm General A m w W 1075 at the age of 57. In this death in i m , last, 1866, i m and m o . the nation has lost an untiring pat riot and a great parliamentarian ftt ft In 1969. €feri Dhar was appointed time tthen he was tnost wanted. as Ambassador to thd VSMM. and m a was a Member ...... 5s o m n a t p , ■ .■' ■■■' ; - iraairs' ':*Th«sr* v«ra other of,'- ^rd«r;; i^reseaiiag Saharsacoiis*; ■ to ■ the List o f ' SvuiltHSffe:' ■' Earlier, -fa r m # of th© Bihar LegisIative A** MR. SPEAKER: No question of l:iW57-i-^aL ' He was List of Business; v'(A^bct«^,..^;:Hai^a'.;;Sabha.. in 1866 and I^o pdints o f order. .■ ■ again >n I972 aud was a sitting Mem- He devoted most “" iof his life 1 to -the' socialist' movement SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: ;lii : axud - ' was ■ one of the After the Obituary References (in* senior m«ml>er8 ofthe Socialist Party terruptions) the List of Business V its Chairman - for talks about the Papers to be laid ac^ ; He passed away at bn the Table of the House. Ordin M&dbipura (Bihar) on tile 30th May. arily, according to the routine of the ■ ;j^ :'.;:.at;^e/age of 71,' List of Business there should have been the Question Hour, This is Shri Ramchandra J. Amin was a Question Hour. We have seen the Member of the Fourth Lok Sabha Bulletin (Interruptionsj . Sir, I am during the years 1967—70. Before not questioning your direction as . ■. - be was a member of such. With very great respect and the; erstwhile Baroda ‘ Legislative humility, I am trying to draw your Assembly and was Minister in that kind attention to this. Sir, a motion State during 1048-49. He was later has been tabled already for the pur Member of the erstwhile Bombay pose of dispensing with the Question LegMative Assembly during 1949—52. Hour. I take it, Sir, that when He did a great deal of social work the session was summoned, the Gov in his home State of Gujarat and ernment indicated the List cf Busin was associated with several educa ess which they wanted to be trans tional, social and religious organisa acted; and, Sir under Article 13 of our tions. lie was for some time a pro Rules of Procedure, the Speaker will fessor of Economics and Social normally allot "days for discussing Sciences in Gujarat. He passed away these things in the List of Business on the 24th June, 1975, at the age (Interruptions). '■ We deeply mourn the loss o f these MR, SPEAKER: May I tell you, friends and I am sure the House will this is a very brief session, only meant joiij me in conveying our condolences for Government business, .bereaved families. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: y'i;^lf^yll0use;’ may stand in silence for It is on that we have our submis while to express its sorrow. sion. Members then stood in silence .while. MR. SPEAKER: Even if there had been any time allowed for point of order, there was no time limit for Eat:; Now, papers to be that. '
' C H ATTER®. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER
\ m m SOMKATH c m r r m r m SHRI p. K. DEO; point or order* I 9m submitting Sir (Interruptions), (Interruptions),
MR, SPEAKER: 1 am sorry. MR, SPEAKER: Kindly sit down.
SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi): SHRI P. K. DEO: Rule 398 only On a point ot order. I rise on a eays: point of order on the List of Busin ess. You will have to listen to me, “Any member may, with the Sir, (Interruptions). My point of consent o f the Speaker, move that order is this. I draw your atten any rule may be suspended in its tion to Article 118 (Interruptions). application to a particular motion before the House and if the motion MR. SPEAKER: No point of order. is carried, the rule in question 1 am not to be directed like that. shall be suspended for the time There was no time for questions. I heing.” am nut going to listen to this point ol order, because I have already ex MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to plained that for one week. me. I will explain it
SHRI P. K DEO Please listen. 1 <]r»w your kind attention to Article SHRI P. K. DEO- This cannot 118 of the Constitution. It says: give power for a blanket bar. (In terruptions) . "Lach House of Parliament may make rules for regulating subject to MR. SPEAKER: No no please. the provisions of this Constitution, its procedure and the conduct of its SHRI P. K. DEO: Sir, you can business/’ suspend the Question Hour. There are specific rules on the subject; but * Sir, so far as the conduct o! business* so far as the Calling Attention Mo ^ far as the proceedings of the tion, adjournment motion are con House MR. SPEAKER: This is not a nor MR. SPEAKER: Government wan ma] session. It is a short session, ted certain number of days. for essential business. It is only a SHRI P. K. DEO: Only after Mr. Gtovemment-business ses&ion. Raghu Ramaiah (Interruptions), SHRI p. K. PESO; The entire busin MR. SPEAKER; I am not allowing ess of the House has to be guided ac you, I will not listen to you (Inter cording to the Rules of Procedure. ruptions) . MR. SPEAKER: Kindly stop please. SHRI P> K, DEO: So, 1 support the I coasMened everythin#, (Interrupt pointed raised... (Interruptions). i JULY % im Papers Laid 8 11*15 turn. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND Cprth SUPPLIES (SHRI B. P. MAU- MISA O rdinances, 1975, D efence o f RYA): Sir, on behalf of Shri A. I n d ia (A m e n d m e n t ) O rdinace, 1975 George, I beg to lay on the Table:— a n d C onservation o f F oreign Ex c h a n g e a n d P revention o f S mxjgclino (1) A copy of the RICHARDSON A c tiv it ie s (A m e n d m e n t ) O rdinance, AND CRUDDAS LIMITED (Acqui 1975 sition Ltd.) Transfer of Undertak ing) Rules, 1947 (Hindi and English THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND versions) published in Notification HOUSING AND) PARLIAMENTARY No. S.O. 147(E) in Gazette of India AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RAM- dated the 20th March, 1975 together AIAH): I beg to lay on the Table a with corrigendum thereto publish copy each of the following Ordinances ed in Notification No. S.O. 186(E) m (Hindi and English versions) issued in Gazette of ,India dated the 25th by the President under provisions of April, 1975 and S.O. 296(E) pub article 123(2) (a) of the Constitu lished in Gazette of India dated the tion:— 1st July, 1975, under sub-section (3) of section 31 of the Richardson (i) The Maintenance of Internal and Cruddas Limited (Acquisition Security (Amendment) Ordinance, and Transfer of Undertaking) Act, 1975 (No. 4 of 1975) promulgated 1972. [Placed in Library. See No LT: 9754/75]. by the President on the 29th June, 1975. (2) A copy each of the following papers (Hindi and English ver (ii) The Defence of India (Am sions) under sub-section ( 1) of endment) Ordinance, 1975 (No. 5 section 619A of the Companies Acjt, of 1975) promulgated by the Pre 1956:— sident on the 30th June, 1975. (a) (i) Review by the Govern ment on the working o f the (iii) The Conservation of Foreign Jessop and Company Limited, Exchange and Prevention of Smug Calcutta, for the year 1973-74, gling Activities (Amendment) Or dinance, 1975 (No. 6 of 1975) pro (ii) Annual Report of the mulgated by the President on the Jessop and Company Limited, 1st July, 1975. Calcutta, for the year 1973-Jfc? along wih the Audited Account (iv) The Maintenance of Inter and the comments of the Com nal Security (Second Amendment) ptroller and Auditor General Ordinance, 1975 (No. 7 of 1975) thereon. [Placed in Library. See promulgated by the President on No. LT-9755/75]. the 15h July, 1975. (b) (i) Review by the Govern [Placed »n Libraryt See No. LT- ment or the working of the Ri 9768/75]. chardson and Cruddas (1972), Li mited, Bombay, for the year R ichardson and Cruddas L td. (A c ended 31st March, 1974. q u is it io n and T ransfer o f U ndertak in g ) Rtn.Es, 1947, R e v ie w s a n d A n (ii) Annual Report of the Kijc' n u a l R eports o f Jessop a®r® Co. L td., chardson and Cruddas (1972) C a lc u tta fo r 1973-74 and R ichardson Limited, Bombay, tor the year a n d C ruddas (1972) L td. B o m b a y for ended 31st Mastth* 1974 along with THE YEAR ENDED 31 ST MARCH, 1674. the Audited Accounts and the 9 Paper* Laid ASADHA 30, 1897 OSAKA) Papers Laid comments o f the Comptroller and (ii) Memorandum of Action Auditor General thereon. [Placed taken on the Report. [Placed in in Library. See No. LT 9756/75]. Library. See No. LT-9759/75]. R e v ie w a n d A n n u a l R eport o r H in (&) A copy of the Union Public dustan C ables L im it e d f o r the year Service Commission (Exemption ended 31s t March, 1974 from Consultation) Amendment Re THE MINISTER OF STATE IN gulations, 1975 (Hindi and English THB MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND versions) published in Notification CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI B. P. MAU- No. G.S.R. 594 in Gazette of India RYA): I beg to lay on the Table a dated the 17th May, 1975, under copy each of the following papers clause (5) of article 320 of the Con (Hindi and English versions) under stitution together with and explati sub-section ( 1) of section 619A of the atory memorandum. (Placed in Lib Companies Act, 1956— rary. See No. LT-9760/75], (i) Review by the Government on the working of the Hindustan «•» Cables Limited, for the year ended N otifications under A dd ition al Em o l u m e n t s (C o m p u lso r y D e p o s it ) A ct, 31st March, 1974. 1974, M ark et L o a n s F loated b y C en (ii) Annual Report of the Hin tral G o v e rn m en t, i.T. (A m n d .) R ules, dustan Cables Limited for the year and C entral Ex c is e (A m e n d m e n t ) ended 31st March, 1974 along with R u les, 1975, Notifications under C e n the Audited Accounts anfl the com tral E x c ise R u les, 1944. C rrection ments of the Comptroller and o f A n sw e r U.S.Q. 7635 dated 25-4-75, Auditor General thereon. fPZflred and N otifications under C u sto m s ?,i Library. See No. LT-9757/75). A ct, 1962. A n n u al G eneral A dministration R e THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE port o r A n d a m a n and N icobar A d MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- ministration for 1973-74, R eport op MATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): On be C o m m is s io n of In q u ir y in t o S adar half of Shri Pranab Kumar Mukher- ISazar D isturbances w it h M e m o o f jee, I beg to lay on the Table— A ction t a k e n thereon a n d UPSC (E x e m p t io n f r o m C onstitution ) A m (1) A copy each of the follow endm ent R e gu lation s, 1975. ing Notifications (Hindi and English versions) under sec THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tion 25 of tihe Additional MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Emoluments (Compulsory (SHRI F. H MOHSIN.): On behalf Deposit) Act, 1974:— of Shri Om Mehta, I beg to lay on ^he Table: — (i) The Additional Emoluments Compulsory Deposit (Emp ^ (i) A copy of the Annual Gene ral Administration Report (Hindi loyees other than employees of Government and local and English versions) of the Anda Authorities) (Amendment) man and Nicobar Administration, Scheme, 1975, published in for the year 1973-74. {Placed in Notification No. G.S.R. 253 Library. See No. LT-9758/75]. (E) in Gazette of India 12) A copy each of the following dated the 12th May, 1975. documents (Hindi and English ver sions) under sub-section (4) of sec (ii) The Additional Emoluments tion 3 of the Commissions of In Compulsory Deposit (Local quiry Act, 1952;— Authority Employees) » (i) Report (1974) of the Com (Amendment) Scheme, mission of Inquiry into the Sadar 1975, published in Notifica Bazar disturbances. tion No. G.SJt 254(E) in dated the r.-:- ; iP te x m M ■ ■ ■y:< .p ':0 M W . See No. L#*976l/ ( i ) A Q&py Of M c t t : ; ; ■ ^(aj-WScM/VS ■ (Hindi and (lv) G.S.R, 317(E) published!* English versions.) published in , Gazette o f Indta dated the Gazette of JIndia dated the 3rd June, 1975 togetfe^ 17th July, 1075, regarding with an explanatojy memo- Market Loans Floated by the . tanduua. Central Government [Placed in Library. S«* No . LT-9762/ (v) G.S.R. 69p pubUshed ih Gazette of India dated the 7th Jime, 1975 together with an explanatory memo* (5) A copy of the Income-Tax random. (Second Amendment) Rules, 1975 (Hindi and English ver (Vi) G.S.R. 700 published in sions) published in Notifica Gazette of India dated the tion No. &Ov 295(E) in 7th June, 1975 together Gazette of India dated the 1st with an explanatory memo July, 1975 under section 296 randum, of the Income-tax Act, 1961. (vii) G.S.R. 702 and 703 publish [Placed *n Library. See No. LT-9763/75J. ed in Gazette of India dated the 7th June, 1975 together with an explanatory me (4) A copy of the Central Excise morandum. (Eighth Amendment) Rules, 1975 (Hindi and English ver (viii) G.S.R. 362—A (E) publish sions) published in Notifica ed in Gazette of India dated tion No. GSR. 320(E) in the 28th June, 1975 toge Gazette of India dated the ther with an explanatory llfh June, 1975, under sec memorandum. tion, 38 6t the Central Excises and Salt Act, 1944. (Placed (ix) G.S.R. 309(E) published in in Library. See No. LT-9764/ Gazette of India dated the 30th June, 1975 together 75]. 1 with an explanatory memo randum. [Placed in Library. (5) A copy each of the following See No. LT-0765/75], Notifications (Hindi and Eng lish versions) issued under (6) Statements (i) correcting the the Central Excise Rules, reply given on the 25th April, 1944:— 1975 -to Unstarred Question No 7635 by Shri Jyotirmoy Bobu regarding smugglers, (i) G.S.R. 571 published in evading a*re*t$ and (ii) giv Gazette of India dated the ing reasons, for delay & cor 10th May, 1975 together recting the reply. [Placed in with m explanatory memo Library. See N a LT- J W randum. (il) G.S.R. 306(E) published in (7) A copy each of the following Gazette of India dated the Notifications (Hindi and ®ng- 59th May, 1975 together lish versioas) under section w^th an explanatary Memo- ... 159 ofthe'.Act, ^ v', \ ■■■' Papers Laid ASADHA 90, 180? (SAKA) Papers laid 14 (i) G.S.R. 278(E) published in with an explanatory memo '* CSfttteW® of India dated the randum. 15th May, ,1975 together with m explanatory roe- (xii) G.SJR. 766 and 767 publish randum. ed in Gazette of India dated the 21st June, 1975 together (U) CL&fc, 283(E) published in with an explanatory memo Gazette of India dated the randum. 19th May, 1975 together with an explanatory me (xiii) G.S.R. 285(E) published in morandum. Gazette of India dated the (iii) G.S.R. 298(E) published in 30th June, 1975 together with an explanatory memo Gazette of India dated the 27th May, 1975 together randum. with an explanatory memo* (xiv) G.S.R. 373(E) published in randum. Gazette of India dated the (iv;!G.S.R. 299(E) to G.S.R. 1st July, 1975 together with 302(B) published in Gazette an explanatory memoran of India dated the 27th dum. May, 1975 together with an (xv) G.S.R. 397(E) published in explanatory memorandum. Gazette of India dated the (v) G.S.R. 303(E) published in 3rd July, 1975 together with Gazette of India dated the an explanatory memorandum. 27th May, 1975 together [Placed in Library. See No. with an explanatory memo LT-9767/753. randum. (vi) G.S.R. 318(E) and 319(E) C entral W are H o u sin g C orporation published in Gazette of (A m e n d t .) R u le s, 1975 India dated the 3rd Jutie, THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE 1975 together with an ex-, MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND planatory memorandum. IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB (vii) G.S.R. 322(E) published in P. SHINDE): I beg to lay on the Gazette of India dated the Table a copy of the Central Warehous 5th June, 1975 together with ing Corporation (Amendment) Rules an explanatory memoran 1975 (Hindi and English versions) dum. published in Notification No. G.S.R, (viii) G.S.R. 708 published in Gaz 683 in Gazette of India dated the 31st May, 1975, under sub-section (S) of ette of India dated the 7th June, 1975 together with an section 41 of the Warehousing Cor porations Act, 1962. [Placed to Lib explanatory memorandum. rary. See No. LT-9768/75]. (ix) G.S.R. 707 published in Gazette of India dated the A n n u a l A cco unts o f M adras and 7th June, 1975 together with M o r m u g a o P ort T r u sts for 1973-74 an explanatory memoran and M erch an t S h ip p in g (T on nage dum. M e a su r e m e n t o f S h ip s ) A m e n d m e n t R u les, 1975 | (x) G.S.R. 326(E) published in Gazette of India dated the THE MINISTER OF STATE |N THE 9th June, 1975 together MINISTRY OF SHIFTING AND with an explanatory memo TRANSPORT (SHRI H. M. TRI- randum. VEDI): I beg t0 lay on the Table:— (xi) PJS.R. 722 published In Gazette of India, dated the ( 1) A copy each of the following 14th June, 1975 together patera (Hindi and English t$ Papers Laid JULY 21, 1975 Papm L a id 16 versions) under sub-section N otification tr o »s * H om oeopathy (2) of section 103 of the C entral C ou ncil A ct, 1973 Major Fort Trusts Act* 1963:— * (/) Annual Accounts of the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Madras port Trust for the MINISTRY OP HEALTH AND year 1973-74 and the Audit FAMILY PLANNING (SHRI A. K. M. Report thereon, ISHAQUE): I beg to lay on the table a copy of the Homoeopathy Central (1/) Annual Accounts of the Council (Election) Rules, 1975 (Hindi Mormugao Port Trust for and English versions) published in No- the year 1973-74 and the tifieatoin No. G.S.R. 611 in Gazette of Audit Report thereon. India dated the 17th May, 1975, under [Placed in Library, See No, sub-section (2) of section 32 of the LT-9769/75]. Homoeopathy Central Council Act, 1973. [Placed in Library, See No. (2) A copy of the Merchant Ship LT-9772/75]. ping (Tonnage Measurement of Ships) Amendment Rules, 1975 (Hindi and English ver sions) published in Notifica P roclam ation R evo kin g P resident' s tion No. G.S R. 639 in R ule in G ujarat, P residential ordkh Gazette o f India dated the 25th dissolving N agalan d L egislative A s May, 1975 under sub-section s e m b l y , A r m s ( A m p n d m e n t ) R ules (3) of section 458 of the Mer 1975, Extension of DIR to S ik k im , chant Shipping Act, 196# P roclamation of state of Em e r [Placed in Library. See No, gency dated 25-6-75 etc., etc. LT-9770/75], T1IE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE C orrection o r A n sw e rs t o U.S.Q . No. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS $931 dated 17-12-74 re\ M u l t in a (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): I beg to lay t io n a l F ir m s i n I n d ia and U .S.Q . on the Table: (1) A copy of the Pro N o 1057 dated 25-2-75 re. F oreign clamation (Hindi and English version) C o m p a n ie s i n I ndia dated the 16th June, 1975 issued, by the President under clause (2) of artide 356 of the Constitution revoking the TJIfc DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Proclamation issued by him on the 9th MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND February, 1974 in relation to the State COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI BEDA- of Gujarat, published in Notification BRATA BARUAV. (1) A Statement No. G.S.R. 336(E) m Gasrette of India correcting the reply given on the 17th dated the 18th June, 1975 under article December, 1974 to Unstarred Question 356(3) of the Constitution. \Placed in No. 4921 by Dr. H. P. Sharma and Library See No. LT-9773/75]. Shri C K Chandrappan regarding Mul tinational firms in India and their in terest and giving reasons for delay in correcting the reply (2) A copy of the Order (Hindi and English versions) dissolving the Naga land Legislative Assembly issued by (2) Statement correcting the reply the President, on the 20th May 1975 given on the 25th February, 1975 to under article 174(2) (b) of the ContHu Unstarred Question No. 1057 by Dr. tton read with Presidential Proclama H. P. {Shatma regarding foreign com tion dated the 22nd Marc#, 1975 issued panies in India and giving reasons for under article 356 of the Constituion delay in correcting the reply. [Placed in relation of the State of ftagaland, in m r tr y . $ee NQ.LT-9771/75J. published in Notification No. G.S.R. papers Laid ASADHA 30, 1897 (SAKA) Papers Laid 18 286(E) in Gazette of India dated the G.S.R. 386(E) in Gazette of India dated 20th May, 1975. (Placed in Library. the 29th June, 1975 (English version) See No. LT-9774/75J. and in Gazette of India dated the 19th July, 1975 (Hindi version). [Placed in (3) A copy of the Anns (Second Library. See No. LT-9778/75], Amendment) Rules, 1975 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notifica (7) A copy each of the following tion No. G.S.K. 853 in Gazette of India Notifications (Hindi and English ver dated the 31st May, 1975 under sub sions) under section 35 o f the Defence section (3) of section 44 of the Arms and Internal Security of India Act, Act, 1959. [Placed in Library. See No. 1971:— LT-9775/75]. (i) The Defence of India (Amend ment) Rules. 1975, published (4) A copy of Notification No. S.O. in Notifies I ion No. G.S.R. 19(E) dlrndi and English versions) 394(E) in Gazette of India published ui Gffrette of India dated the dated the 1st July 1975 (Eng 16th May, 1975 extending the Defence lish version) and in Gazette of of India Rules 1971 to the State of India dated the 19th July, 1975 Sikkim [Placed in Library. See No. (Hindi version). LT-9776/75J. (ii) The Defence and Infernal Security of India (Amend (,5) A copy of the Proclamation of ment) Rules 1975 published Emergency made by the President on in Notification No. 'GJS.R* the 25th June 1975 under clause (1) 398(E) in Gazette of tticaa of article 352 of the Constitution, pub dated the 6th July 1975 lished in Notification No. G.S.R, 353(E) (English version) and in Gaz (Hindi and English versions) in Gaze ette of India dated the 19th tte of India dated the 26th June, 1975, July, 1975 (Hindi version). under sub-clause (b) of clause (2) of [Placed in Library. See No. LT-9TO/75]. article 352. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-9777/75]. (8) A copy each of the following No tifications (Hindi and English versions) (8) A copy of the Order issued by under clause (1) of article 359 of the the President under sub-clause (b) of Constitution:— clause (4) of article 352 of the Consti tution applying; tihie Proclamation of Emergency made on the 25th June, (i) G.S.R. 338(E) published in Ga 1975 to the State of Jammu and Kash zette of India dated the 20th mir, published in Notification No. June, 1975 extending the life 19 P a p er# L a id m h Y 21, W 5 1 P m m UtH 20 of the Presidential Order pub. version*) of the Madhya FtadeSh State I*shed in Notification No. G.SJfc’. AgrO'Indutftries Development Corpora* 694 (E) in Gazette of India tion Limited, Bhopal, tor the year 1972. dated the 2Srd December, 73 along with the Audited Accounts and 1974. the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon, under sub (ii) G.S.B. 361(H) published in Ga section (l) of section 619A of the Com* zette of India dated the 27th panies Act, 1956. [Placed mi Library, June, 1975 containing the See No. LT-9781/75]. Order oX the President sus pending certain fundamental rights for the period during which the Proclamations of (2) A copy of the Fertiliser (Control) Emergency made under clause Second Amendment Order, 1975 (Hindi (1) of article 352 of the Cons, and English versions) published in No titution on the 3rd December, 1971 and on the 25th June, tiflcation No. G.S.R. 395(E) m Gazette 1975 are both in force* of India dated the 3rd* July, 1975, (iii) G.S.R. 367(E) published in Ga under sub-section (1) of section 3 of zette of India dated the 29th the Essential Commodities Act, 1955. June, 1975 applying the Order published in Notification No. (3) A copy of Notification No. S.R.O. G.S.R. 361(E) dated the 27th June, 1975 to the State of 396(E) (Hindi and English versions) Jammu and Kashmir. published in Gazette of India dattd [Placed in Library, See No. LT-9780/ the 3rd July 1975 under sub*section 75], (1) of section 12A of the Essential Commodities Act 1955 A nnual R eport or Madhya Pradesh [Placed in Library. See No. LT-9782/ A gro-I ndustries D evelopment C or 75. poration lt d ., B hopal f o r 1972-73, Fertilizer (C ontrol) 2nd (A m end m ent O rder, 1975 N otification (4) A copy of the Produce Cess under Essential Commodities Act, (Amendment) Buies, 1975 (Hindi and a n d P roduce C ess (A m endm ent) English versions) published in Notifi Rules, 1975 cation No. G.S.R. 308(E) in Gazette of India dated the 30th May, 1975, under SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: On section 22 of the Produce Cess Act, behalf of Shri Prabhudas Patel I beg 1966. fPlaced in Library. See No. to lay on the Table : (1) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English LT-9783/75]. ASADHA 30, I W (SAKA) Paper* la id 22 •* S fy tm a m showing Adjnwi vaxen sir NAND); I beg to lay on the Table lot* GOVIKNMKNT OK VARIOUS ASSURANCES lowing statements showing the action PnoMisKfif «p&, IN Lok Sasha taken by the Government on various assurances, promises and undertakings t m DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY given by the Minister^ during the va AFFAIRS (SHRI B. SBANKABA- rious sessions of Lok Sabha:-*- FOURTH LOK SABHA (i) Statement No. XXIX » Twelfth Session, 1970. FIFTH LOK SABHA (ii) Statement No. X X I X ...... , Fourth Session! 197a, (iii) Statement No. X X ...... Fifth Session, 1972. (iv)5 Statement No. X X I I ...... Seventh Session, 1973. (v) Statement No. XVI...... Eight Session, 1973. (vi) Statemsnt No. XIV...... Ninth Session, 1973. (vii) Statement No. X V ...... Tenth Session, 1974. (viii) Statement No. V I I I ...... Eleventh Session, 1974. (ix) Statement No. VII ...... Twelfth Session* 1974. (x) Statement No, I I I ...... Thirteenth Session, 1975. (») Statement No. I V ...... Thirteenth Session, 1975. (xu)) Statement No. V * ...... Thirteenth Session, 1975. Cxtii) Statement No. V I ...... Thirteenth Session, 1975. IPtoeH in See No. LT-9784/ 75). 23 Paper* Laid JULY 21, 1975 Papers Laid 24 A w n ual Report of Delhi Develop Auditor General thereon, ment Authority ror 1973-74 under sub-section ( 1) of Section 619A of the Compa THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE nies Act, 1956. [Placed in MINISTRY OF WORKS AND Library. See No. LT- 9787/ HOUSING (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): 75]. X beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Annual Administration Report I n d u strial E m p l o y m e n t (S tanding (Hindi and English versions) of the O rders) C en tral ( A m d t .) R ules, 1975. Delhi Development Authority for the year 1973-74, under section 28 of the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE UelM Development' Act, 1957. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI tPlaced in Library, See No. LT-9785/ BALGOVIND VARMA): I beg to 75]. lay on the Table a copy of the In dustrial Employment (Standing R e v ie w a n d a n n u a l R eport o f T ea Orders) Central (Amendment) Rules, T rading C orporatio n of I n d ia and 1975 (Hindi and English versions) A n n u a l R eport and A udited A ccounts published m Notification No. G.S.R. o f J ute C orporation of I n d ia L td. 824 in Gazette of India dated the C alcutta for 1973-74 5th July, 1975, under sub-section (3) of section 15 of the Industrial Em THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ployment (Standing Orders) Act, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 1946. f Placed in Library, See No. VTSHWANATH! PRATAP SINGH): LT-9788/75]. I beg to lay on the Table— A ud it R eport o n A ccounts of ( 1) A copy each of the following N a tio n a l C ou n cil of Ed u cation al papers (Hindi and English R esarch and T r a in in g for 1971-72, versions) under sub-section ( 1) A n n u a l R eports of C entral I n s t i of section 619A of the Com* tute o f E n g lish and F oreign L an gu panies Act, 1956: — ages H yderabad for 1973-74 and (1) Review by the Government In d ia n .In stitu te o f T echnology, on the working of the Tea B o m b a y for 1973-74 an d C ertified Trading Corporation of A ccounts thereof 1972 to 1974 and India Limited Calcutta S ta te m e n ts for delay i n l a y in g for the year 1973-74, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (ii) Annual Report' of the Tea MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND Trading Corporation of SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE India Limited, Calcutta, DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI for the year 1973-74 along D P. YADAV): I beg to lay on the with the Audited Accounts Table— and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor ( 1) A copy of the Audit' Report General there on. [Placed (Hindi an (3) (i) A copy of the Annual 11.10 hrs. Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Central ANNOUNCEMENT RE, PANEL OP Institute of English and CHAIRMEN Foreign Languages, (Hydera bad, for the year 1978-74 along with the Audited Ac MR. SPEAKER : I have to inform counts, the House that under rule 9 of the Rules of Procedure I have nomina ted the following as members o f the (ii) A statement (Hindi and Panel of Chairmen : Shri Bhagwat English versions) showing Jha Azad, Shri H. K. L. Bhagat, Shri reasons for delay in laying Ishaque Sambhali, Shri Basant Sathe, the above document. Shri C. M. Stephen and Shri G. Viswanathan. (4) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur); version) of the Indian Insti No lady Member ? tute of Technology, Bombay, for the year 1973-74. MR. SPEAKER : You may consi der anyone of them as lady. (ii) A statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for delay in laying 11.20 hrs. the above Report. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 9789/75]. MOTION RE: BUSINESS TO BE TAKEN UP IN THE SESSION AND SUSPENSION OF CERTAIN RULES (5) A copy each of the following OF PROCEDURE papers (Hindi and English versions) under sub-section (4) of section 23 of the insti THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND tutes of Technology Act, HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY 1961 AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RA- (i) Certified Accounts of Jhe MAIAH): I beg to move: Indian Institute of Techno logy, Bombay, for th? year “This House resolves that the 1972-73 along with the Audit current session of Lok Sabha being Report thereon. in the nature of an emergent ses sion to transact certain urgent and (ii) (a) Certified Accounts of important Government business, the Indian Institute of, Te only Government business be chnology* Bombay, for the transacted during the session and year 1973-74 along with no other business whatsoever in Audit Report thereon. cluding Questions, Calling Atten tion and any other business to be initiated by a Private Member be (6) A statement (Hindi and Eng brought before or transacted in the lish versions) showing rea House during the session and all sons for delay in laying the relevant rules on the subject in the above Accounts. [Placed in Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha do here Library. See No. LT-9790/ by stand suspended to that ex WJ. tent.” AAA find Suspcnsion H, 1IW MM. It is not as though there have been SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Ali- no precedents for this. Hon. Members pore) : Some Members may have in the Opposition are aware that time points of order others may want to and again motions have been moved raise questions. by Members of the Opposition them selves for suspension of the Question MR. SPEAKER ; I will keep not Hour. In 1962 and again in 1971 in ing. the emergency situation then pre SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE vailing, the House was good enough (Burdwan) : I want to speak on the to suspend business to facilitate ur gent Government work. At that time substantive motion but I also want to one the reasons that was men- raise a point of order. I have got a right to raise a point of order. That tioned was that Ministers were busy rule has not yet been suspended. I with urgent defence work and there would have finished long ago if I had fore they sboul §*rr fWHfe # 1 w fr fr # *cm r SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi) : j $3T w f f*rr 1 You have already suspended the Question Hour. SHRI TRIDIB CHAUDHURI (Berh- ampore) : I have a slightly different SHRI SEZHIYAN: The resolution point of order. I submit that, in the seeks to suspend the Question Hour form the motion has been moved, it is now. If it has already been suspended, clearly outside the ambit and scope of it should not be included here, and if it Art. 118 of the Constitution. I am is included, it is presumed that it has quoting Art. 118 ( 1) : not been suspended. Therefore, I would like that point also to be clari “Each House of Parliament may fied. Till suspension is there, the make rules for regulating, subject Questions should not be taken away. to the provision of this constitu tion, its procedure and the conduct MR, SPEAKER i The reason why of its business”. the Question Hour is not coming up Is that there is no time limit. This *"$he Rules of Procedure are derived Session is a short one of only one from this; they were passed under 1113 L S -4 a* MX>$k and Suspension JULY 21, i m B.OM> and Stts&ensfett 36 # o t R u i e s i M ) < 4 m * * < * ) {Shri Tridib Chaudhuri] ft&nfeter for Parliamentary Aflairs has A ri i n U), I lay special emphasis stHUdbt shelter behind the frnhnttvmt m fba “ *nake rules*. and residuary power of tftis ||0U*ef k W wbat is aought to be done is Tke Home at it is constitute today* m, do it by way of a blanket motion the ruling Bw*y wit$i its absolute majority, can dq anything ttyey like >1#ick i s also in the form of a re- fjiution, which is just a recommen But, Sir, you ace the guardian of oipr dation. for approval; it is not a “rule”. democratic rights: you are safe guard the rights of the minorities. . * This Art. 11B has to be read with Alt. 10$ (3) which is as follows : MR. SPEAKER ; You do whatever “In other respects, the powers, you like; you never obey me, but privileges and immunities of each when you are in trouble, you tell me that am the guardian. House of Parliament, and of the 1 Members and the Committees of each House, shall be such as may SHRI P. K. DEO : I feel that it is from time to time be defined by my duty to point this out. It may be * Parliament by law, and, until so the swan song of democracy but I defined, shall be those of the House have to say and I say with all the of Commons of the Parliament of emphasis at my command that, when the United Kingdom, and of its there is no specific rule to give members and committees, at the blanket power for suspension of this commencement of this Constitu nature, it canot be admitted. If there tion” . is any doubt, article 105 of the Con stitution says, we shall have to follow Npw, I am not referring to the House the procedure of the House of Com of Commons or to the House of mons. I would request you to quote (Commons precedents; what I am re even one instance where such blanket ferring to is that it shall “be defined power is given for suspension of this ,by Parliament by law”. It has to be nature in the Twentieth Century in 9 law-making process, a rule making any democracy in the world. process and the Buies already adop ted have laid down the basic proce ^ srtfBRT ssrsqrcr dure for rule-making. We cannot depart from them. We are free to w mwrffawtv *m % amend a law or rescind all the rules *rrrr% sm rn tor fwr srr ^ I or some of the rules or any of the srernr % spft % srf*nrn\ rules, but that does not mean that we can depart from this practice of rule- fk*srr 3% jnaking procedure which has been % f® srfror? f^Frfwr arr ^ 1 laid down. w # tm T That is why this motion, in its pre ^^?fr^r^5srrqB^^Ttf% sent blanket form, cannot be consi STfOT % ^ f W fm fa x dered. "! *MW| ft m fk m star ?ft .SHRI P. K. DEO : Sir, on a point 3* * ff ftvrfcjre qr^rr *rT%lr, of order. MR. SPEAKER : You have al t ?sfr b r t ready put your question SHRI P. K DBO s While fully en ^ rr, ^ t “W $ \ ten dorsing ev*rv word uttered by Shri Somnath Chatteriee and Shri Sezhi- srtt •Tr - fan, X would Hke to add that tit* 3 7 B.O.H. and ASADHA SO, 1*P m s ^ t aCM * # w r ^ im m it and for matted Interpretation I hwt nr itfwt nyr of tip Constitution, | h4«e joo power to Interpret the Constitution «n<3» \ fcrW ?ft I W ff fT therefore, ^iis is before you. you www terr *wr | iw $*c ^ can y<^|r submissions ^xiosi of you have already made pod others . J» ... » ...... * ....‘V «v I* «S- . . —. jk. mqy make in the next 10—15 minu W fTW W vm ^ilWT f tes and let us go ahead with the business. When the discussion on $ *ir wfanft proclamation comes, instead of your ■fpft «frt^ i w f t "ft IfrtSrarft, time spent on points of order, have fTOT ^ rn , IRWT %n W' TO 5TFT ¥ your speeches and lay your points of order. This is my advice. 1 1 ftp ^ trawirf ^ % fi^ T | ^ srwrf # «rrffr The ruling is that Motion is in order. $T *R>T t fe 8FtfW iTEVPT, S$TWT Motion moved; urm ht *rn& s m t o *r$ “This House resolve* that the current session of Lok Sabha, be w y % gfireR % snr 3 3Tft y ?f II ing in the nature of an emergent ft n f | tfft; sft sth ^ f w r r f w n : f\ session to transact certain urgent •^r ^r srnr % MB- SPEAKER: tbat i* a dosed They are makfcfc an absolute mockery matter uow* I i>ave already given of pie actual spirit of Parliament. my views on that. Parliament eadats on convention a* much as on Ccmatttut&m. It ii SfrJKl JBRA^MO 33® SSSQUEIRA: my right and the right o f every What May’s in brief says—-action of member in this House to decide Members o f Parliament in the House business to initiate ho* to initiate, is inclule freedom of speech and that and at what stage, subject to its being is guaranteed by an Article in the called by the Chair, Constitution . . . MR, SPEAKER- The Speaker is not If you pass this motion then just in a position to interpret the Consti as democracy has become a mockery tution. I have said it a number of outside this House, Parliament itself times. will become a mockery within it SHRI ERASMO DE SEQUEIRA: On the subject of this motion, the SHRI MOHAN DHARIA (Poona): submission that I have to make is, At the outset when I look at the Parliament is not here merely to legis* present procedures being followed late, but conditions in the country please allow me t> go on record that are such to-day that major matters it is nothing but the virtual surren have arisen which must be reflected der of the sovereign Parliament to in the House. It is not only an emer the Executive. I do not want to gency that has been declared but the challenge the fulings of the Speaker. leaders of every opposition party But I must say that when the rules have been detained. There are per* are so clear, j* the Government i* hans over 80,000 people to-day under really desirous to get business transa detention. Are we not to dificuss it? cted, to make tbis whole parliamen The Members of Parliament have tary institution more purposeful, I can been shifted from jail to jail— Shri very well understand some important Shyamanandan Mishra and Shri changes. From H)71 onwards I bav«* Madhu Dandavate for example...... been making suggestion that I do not believe in several redundant pro MR. SPEAKER: That will be dis cedures like first reading, second read cussed when another item comes. It ing, the third reading and all that v* is not the proper time. being carried on here It could have been done in a more purposeful man SHRI ERASMO DE SEQUEIRA: ner. Instead of sitting for seven It is for the Government to decide months, 1 had °ugg*$tei that let the what for the Private Members are. session be for three months f»nd let Is it a mere fuss? That is what is us have effective functioning through becoming. My submission is that if Parliamentary Committees where you do not want the private mem there could be better involvement of bers to act at all in the House, if it is the Members of Parliament. Nobody only the Ministers who will be allow had prevented the Government or ed to speak, we should be asked to go the party in power. Unfortunately, out. no decision was taken. And to-day the hon. Minister for Parliamentary Affairs says because of the emer 11.57 fan. gent situation and becatise of imple mentation of economic programmes, tSHKi V asajw Sathe in the Chair] change is required. Who had pre vented them from implementing these It Is hardly the way to say that programmes, j bad been insisting on they hr# actio* within the rule, they having all possible changes in our are acting* th* Constitution. parliamentary functioning. 1 may say 45 tm i‘ ASADHA 30, 1897 (SAKA) B.OJi. and 44 Suspension of Rules (M) Suspension [«rt* tr$0 v&c m fcn] vft ^st W I T w ! *T W IT W ’TfWrw? it k w«*w4*MML»i2bNip4VNM«#» yrET^E tr*«rwT 4 ^ fV *4***vV ‘‘The practice of asiking questions MR. CHAIRMAN: About emergency, ig of the utmost constitutional im you can' speak when that resolution portance.** comes up. That is h’ow these people look at SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: the functioning of British Parliament The emergency is being utilised as an and we have constitutionally incor excuse for taking away the powers- porator the rights, powers and privi- of mine. T am saying, the emergency leges of the British House of Com cannot be an excuse for this. The mons in our Constitution. So far we whole object is to stifle the function have not made separate rules. Look ing of Parliament, to stultify the- at the House today. Prominent mem members* rights and to make Parlia bers of the opposition, large numbers ment what Mr. Sezhiyan railed of them, have been detained without “muted museum” . We will be here trial, without any charge against as museum nieces and go away at them. They do not know what is 6 Olc3ock. We Will just raise our 5 9 B.G4*. and Suspension JVt-Y g jf 1975 B.O.H. and Suspension Go of Hules (M) ' * pf Ittttes (M) 4 (Shri Somnath Chatterjee] parliamentary processes should !nOi be tolerated and should not be aCfc^pt- •Wrongly voted for NOES tThe following Members also recorded their votes: AYES; Sarvshri Md. Jamilurrahman and Tarkeshwar Pandey; \ NOES: Shri T. $. Lakshmanan. 73 Approval of ASADHA 30, 1897 ( SAKA) Approval of 74 Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.)' 12.50 hre. 1 ‘sft f t ^TPcfV I sfk t*tft srsrrarcqr STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE: AP f^rf^r t o f t eft %ts?t ^rt *f*TR% % PROVAL OF PROCLAMATION OF faq, ^?r 3 n?*rfr srfsRr ^ crar *r EMERGENCY tot, ?shRT?r% % faq ^rf MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Jagjivan ■3OTT fPTT, MR. CHAIRMAN: Six hours. STTTTrT fpqfrT ^ tf f^FT if ^5TT SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (AU- ft ^ ^=rr ^Tft TTFTT «TT TOT I ^ pore): Why was it not settled in the ^t it *JWr % fw f»T W^t meeting of the Business Advisory ^TTcT 5TT5 ^ ff^ t ^TRcT ^t f ^ T Committee? *pt OTTT qfnT I 1967 fT f?T#^T MR. CHAIRMAN: There was no Jftf ^cr^ft time. If you want, it will be called. t a f ^ f t t ^ r We will extend the time if necessary. ^rr frorf^r ^ra- ^ |?tt «rr sfk trsf ftrarf (*ft snnfta* fe ft^ ? ft 'JRT+l^ ^fTRm 3Tt »Tf «ft eft m ) : f sfr sfttst ^ ^ ^ w r ^ppfsr | vrt ft TOft | tfk qtdrap % sftpssT vt ^*r Pctt ^ n r, o t w t Approval of •••' ' JUTWT;• -'/ Ap&rovtfl o f Proctametion of Emergency (Re«.) 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[*fr w r .s r c m ] two days inside the jail. • I went on hunger strike. 1 sent a telegram to the Speaker and then only the condi ^r^rr i wsgfr % ir tion was changed. ststt ^ a w rfa r ^ t?tt | srft TOTT *RcfT |T f% TO- ^ W W f f Sir, I am sorry to say that as a Congressman once who fought for the ssrtFfar ^ shfct i freedom of this country and who courted arrest and suffered so much MR. CHAIRMAN: Resolution I had been treated m this wiy Sir, moved: I am released only two days bock. I know the reason. What about 2,000 ‘This House approves the Procla or 3,000 of my comrades who are mation of Emergency m^de bv the inside the jail to-day? Why myself President on the 25th June, 1975, and Shri Nambudripad alone are re under clause (1) of Article 352 of leased? It is to show to the world the Constitution as also the Order that no Marxist or Leftist parties or of tlie President dated 29th June, Opposition party Members are arrest 1975 made in exercise of powers ed, but it is only the reactionaries conferred by sub-clause (b) of who are arrested and w h' are res- clause (4,) of Article 352 of the posible for all these things. I do not constitution, as applied to the State want to go into the details of it. I of Jammu and Kashmir, applying only say this because, as a political the said Proclamation to the State of leader both in the Congress and after Jammu and Kashmir.** wards in the Communist Party, I have mv own feelings. That is why SHRI A. K. GOP ALAN (Pakhat): I expressed my feelings about the Mr. Chairman, Sir, I have hei.rd Shri treatment given to me when I wns Jagjiwan Ram's speaking. I am afraid arrested Had not my comrades pre that these are *ot the word; of the vented the policemen my head would Minister as I have seen him also have been broken. But I got only sometimes looking at the Prime Minis injuries because my comrades saved ter. I know the reason why he was me. I wanted that my comrades looking and I sympathise wi*h him. should not have prevented that and that I should have died. It would be I rise to speak m an exfraoidinaiy a glory for me +hat by fighting the and most distressirg situation in which cause of working class in this country, 34 members of Parliament are rot here- and for saving the democracy in this not on their own volition, but because country, I died. Unfortunately I did they have been detained wJhout trial, not die and T am here to-day to ex and Parliament itself has been reduced press mv feelings. to a farce and :in object of rontpmpt by Shrimati Gandhi and her pa-ty I Sir, this is an emergent session of have to say that I mvself h<>d been Parh'nme^t to transact the government arrested and kept in jail for one week business, mainly, to ratify the fresh and Jyotirzmy ttoc,i, you knew him declaration of emergency by the Presi very well, that Noorul Huda, another dent on the 2f?th June under the plea member of our party I am «'n old of internal security to the country, man who cannot sn^ak loudly now. I and the Opposition is bemg prevented was released and both cf them weie from playing its role: Why? kept inside the -ir.il. The reasons are very clear. I am not afraid of jails The hon. Minister, Shri Jagjivan because during the period of last 45 Ram has given that side of the pic years, for 17 years I have been in ture. I am giving the other side of jail. But I am only sorry for the in the picture. What the Opposition human treatment meted out to me for thinks about this emergency and why 89 Approval of ASADHA 30, 189 7 (SAKA) Approval of qq Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) this emergency was introduced and It has been maintained and used to what is happening in this country. I curb and suppress the trade union and request you, Mr, Chairman, to give other democratic movements and the me some niore time till I finish my Opposition Parties including CP.L(M). speech. You said that only six hours D«I.R. and MISA have been freely used are allotted. On behalf of my party against the Opposition Parties and I want to express our attitude and forces. The use of DIR and MISA to what we have to say as far as the suppress the last railway strike and emergency is concerned and what hap- ? arrests of the leader of the opposition pened after the emergency was de- j MLAs of Tripura Assembly along with clared. i the State Government employees’ lea ders are the glaring examples. MR. CHAIRMAN: I shall allow fif teen minutes lor your party. (.The warning given by our party about the rise of the tendency to SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSHI: totalitarian and one party dictator This is an important Proclamation. ship since last three years has proved true with the sudden declaration of MR. CHAIRMAN: That is what I new emergency. By this parliamentary am saying. I shall give you half an democracy has been replaced by the hour Will that be all right’ dictatorship of one party with full power concentrated in the hands of Slim A. K. GOP ALAN: I shall try one leader, Mrs. Gandhi. This is not to finish it within this time. If I an expression of the strength of the take* some mnro time, I hope you will fuling party but the expression of an give me the extension. extreme weakness and crisis of the MR. CHAIRMAN All right. party and the ruling classes.!' This abrupt turn in the situation and the SHRI A K. GOP ALAN: As I *>aid sudden change from democracy to dic this sudden declaration is not because tatorship is to find the way out o f the of a real threat 10 internal security crisis to keep the ruling party and the but because of the judgment of the classes in power. Because the demo Allahabad High Court, the verdict cratic rights enjoyed by the working against the Congress in the Gujarat class and people under parliamentary elections, and the refusal by Mrs. democracy have turned to be a threat Gandhi to step down from the office to their power. That is why {we find of Prime Minister&hip till the final growing attacks on trade unron and verdict of the Supreme Court, in the democratic rights and suppression of context of rising disillusionment and the opposition forces. Semi-fascist terror and rigging of elections as in discontent of the people with the ru*" Lng party under Smt. Gandhi’s leader West Bengal, maintenance of emer ship for turning the economy of the gency and special powers like MISA became essential for the ruling party country into shambles, making the rich to keen them in power. This growth richer and the poor poorer in pursuit of authoritarianism is directly linked of the bankrupt path of capitalist up with the growth of monopoly capi development. ^ 4 tal antf intensification of the exploita tion of the people by the exploiting We are already in the midst of emer classes and peoples growing resistance gency since 1971—why another pro against this. clamation of emergency? Under that emergency, there are more powers and The slogan of one leader, cne party under that power even the censorship and one country rai?cd by h section of press oould have been there. But. of Congressmen sometimes before, is there was a new proclamation of nothing but a political reflection ot emergency. I do not know why. I the tendency towards authoritarianism^ do not want to go into details of it. This slogan has been recoined by the •91 Approval of Proclaim- JULY 21, 1975 Approval of Proclama- 92 tion of Emergency (Res.) tion of Emergency (Res.) [Shri A. K. Gopalan] they feel; that is freedom and that Congress President alter the adverse? freedom is curtailed. judgment of Allahabad High Court and Supreme Court and adverse ver Sir, how is this butchery ot demo dict of the Gujarat elections, into the cracy being sought to be justified? slogan “Indira is India and India is What case is Shrimati Indira Gandni Indira”. This means that she will making in her defence? She has remain the sole dictator throughout claimed that it is to defeat the right her life, so no need of any democracy, reaction and also the so called left any parliament, any opposition and extremists. All this left manoeuvring any election. In this connection I re is meant only to deceive the public member the story of Casabianea who opinion in the country ar.d also ab said from mid-ocean; I am lord of road. This is the only purpose of the what I surveyed and my right there high powered propag in.ia campam is none to dispute. about the so called conspiracy and coup and much is bein^ made of a On behalf of the Communist Parly call to the Filice and Ar.nv n.H to of India (Marxist), I totally oppose obey illegal orders. Aga^rvr this the new declaration of Emergency and high-powered hoax of a cimpmgn, its ratification in this House. We what is the reality? Take the Gov know full well that in the present ernment’s attitude to the RSS and the situation no one is immune from ar Anand Marg which it h. •> nr.w ban rest and detention. As I have already ned. It seemc. that the Government's told you there are Hundreds of per attitude to these organisu*onfi changes sons inside the jail including Congress from time to time to suit its conveni men. i,Interruption*). ence. In 19B5, during the* tnd->-Pak War, the then Prime M'ristei There was a rumour—when I was Bahadur Shastri handed over Delhi to inside the jail—that Shri Jagjivan the HSS for rivil %uard duties The Ham and Shri Chav an were under presenl Prime Minister Shrimjli house-arrest. I do not know how far Indirn Gandhi paid glowing tributes it is correct or not. (Many leaders of to the RSS Chief. Colwalkar, some Opposition as well as 39 Member* of time ago in the Parliament. (Inter Parliament, including some Congress ruptions). It is no record. If you go leaders,—are inside the jail. We can through the proceedings...... (Inter not betray the interests of the people ruptions)1. If they put questions 1o and give our assent to the obliteration me, say looking into the records, the of all vestiges of democracy in India— answer is available---- (Interrup freedom of t.ie person, freedom of speech, freedom to form associations, tion s). freedom to approach the courts, free dom of the prefs, freedom to criticise MR. CHAIRMAN: He i& probat.ly the Government and work for its re making a reference to some abituarv placement by a Government of the reference, to some good work 1hat people’s choice. ' A word about ‘free might have been done. That is un dom1. What is freedom? fhere are charitable to say. Thnt is what you differences on that. It was sa*d from the Government side thut freedom is mean? Is there any other record? I to say that we support everything must get it clear. If there is any what the Government is doing and not other record, it is for him to show. to criticise it. Theretort. there is (Interruptions) difference. Our freedom is freedom of expression. Whatever the Opposi SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: You can tion or the people in the country in cat out everything. Nothing goes out cluding Congressmen think about the side. Nothing is printed/ It is only policies of the Government they must in the record. It is there in the obi also have the freedom to express what tuary reference. _93 Approval of ASADHA 30, 1897 (SAKA) Approval of Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) &s for the Anand Maigis, the Go v- coming—every day, every hour. So •emment did nothing when it tried to this means that there is not even assassinate Comrade Jyoti Basu at equality before the law. Any discri Patna Railway station and the person mination can be practised by the exe standing next to him was killed. The cutive. tA n y person arrested need Chief of the Anand Marg along with not be produced before a court. The three t'hugs are facing charges of kil news of his arrest, whereabouts and ling their own men. Twelve lakhs of condition can be kept completely rupees were given to this same Anai.d .secret fie may be physically liqui Marg by the Government for relief dated by the police end nobody need o f Bangladesh refugees in 1971 of know anything about it. That is the which Rs. 2,80,000 are not accounted position today. ior. I am only saying what was the attitude taken then b> the Govern Meetings and demonstrations have ment towards these organisations. been banned throughout the country) Take the case of the so-called extre In Kerala, in every district, in every mists. At one time, the ruling party village, there is 144. So not more encouraged the Naxaiites and gave than 5 persons can meet. A>- regards them all assistance in West Bengal to cinemas, second shows are also stop liquidate the cadres of our party- ped, because in some places after Today, they stand disreputed and *n 8 O’clock, nobody can walk in the total disarray. streets. That is the oosition. It is too naive to expect the people No criticism of the Government or to believe that these organisations the Congress Party, however, mild is with, no mass base have suddenly be allowed to be published. No news of come a threat to internal security exploitation of the people by the vest which can be met only by the imposi ed interests, of workers by the capita tion of a slate of emergency. The lists, of peasants and agricultural politics and ideology of these parties workers etc. which may contain even have to be fought and defeated politi a remote criticism of the Government cally and ideologically. If they ate is allowed No movements of the involve^ in criminal activities, they workers, peasants, agricultural labour should be proceeded against under ers ctc. can take place under the plea normal laws. of obstruction to production. No strikes can take place under the Against whom then, are the govern- same plea. But I have to say that .ment measures taken mainly directed9 there are lock-outs and lay-offs in (The measures taken by the Govern many factories, even in the govern ment in the wake of the declaration ment undertakings. Will the Govern of emergency unmistakably show that ment take any steps to lift them the thrust is against the people. 7 Even two days ago. I sent a telegram {(Whatever♦* democratic rights weie available to the people have been com to the Labour Minister saying that pletely obliterated. Cbaptci III of for the last one month, Iheie is lay off in some of the factories. I know the Constitution enshr ■leEid. ll^ f u li fcnofciedge ana direc- .. I t is . in ■ this • background that Movement' led by Shri Jayaprakash Readership o f the Narayan gathered momentum* Our hat faced with sure, party - has clearly; stated our differ* defeat, i^er party rigged the' election* ences with Shri Nazsyan, but at the ^ & WesiBengal in 1972 with the %m same time given our support to the '' bflficial‘.machinery combined ' with, democratic demands which he has £% itiifri. Sir, it was said here by Shri championed. Whatever ourdiffer- .^iigpvan tern that an elected Gbve- ences with the movement, We have ■;';'kn*ttent. cannot be removed 'because defended and will defend their right :I t iis elected. I want to ask the Prime to organise satyagran*. strikes Minister what has happened in Kerala bandhs, etc. which are all legitimate ^ 1950 when it was an elected Gove weapons in the hands of the people. rnment. She herself *s the President o f the Congress, organised liberation The movement led by Shri Jaya struggle. She led the struggle and the prakash. Narayan had accepted the liberated. Now she is saying, Kerala challenge1 of Shrimati Gandhi to face Government shculd not be touched t elections and was preparing for them. 1 do not understnd the meaning why It is Shrimati Gandhi who developed in 1950 there could be a liberation cold feet after the verdict in Gujarat. struggle and now no liberation. Sections of the ruling Congress were themselves involved in the Gujarat and 14 tuns. Bihar movements. The factional strug gle rampant in all the States had (The people and the force® against spearheaded to the Centre too and it which this semi-facist terror and rig is no secret that after the Allahabad ging were directed are not the right judgment and the Supreme Court order reactionary forces but the left demo there was a massive challenge to cratic forces representing the work Shrimati Gandhi’s leadership in the ers, peasants, employees, teachers, Congress Parliamentary Party itself. students, refugees* women and poorer The threat to the Congress monopoly sections. ') Though now it has been of power combined with the threat to admitted by the Chief Minister that Shrimati Gandhi's position in the party in West Bengal the right reactionary and in the Government was the im forces are very insignificant, the con mediate cause for the rape of demo dition of semi-facis: terror and attacks cracy, its long-term aim being the oh the left and democratic forces are ruthless suppression of common in full sway. The ruling party and people. the Government have tried to hide this ugly reality by a barrage of systematic false propaganda through- I have read in today’s newspapers out the country and outside. that the elections in Kerala due in Septemfber are being postponed and ‘ ‘ :-V', V; . - The same is now being sought to the term of the existing Assembly is being extended by six months. I do be extended to Kerala. I have already not know why this ifr being done. said what happened in 1959. Facing this repression, not only has ^ p w , to hffcdwink the people, Shri themovement developed in these two mati Gandhi ha® com® forward with a States it has extended to other 20 point programme, but what is new . ■■ ■ar^;'-!¥ ^ ;;'''|fepple' cannot be deceived : in it? . prevented the implementa- ■ fdr fehg fey ;'$h$ rulers and people are of 101 Approval of ASADHA 30, 189 7 (SAKA) Approval of ica Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) The Planning Commission Task Force Despite all the tall talk what the report bears eloquent testimony to the Emergency amounts to is suppression &ctv that it was the Congress Govern- of the democratic forces. Who will ment and the Congress Party that believe that by suppressing the popular effectively sabotaged the implementa forces who are fighting against the tion o f the ceiling Acts because there monopolists and landlords, by suppres was lack of political will and because sing their agitations and by denying of the innumerable links oi the land* them all democratic rights Smt. lords with the administration. In West Gandhi is fighting right reaction? Bengal, during the rule oi the United Front Government 6 lakh acres of benami land were unearthed and dis It is unfortunate that the Com tributed to the agricultural workers— munist Party of the Soviet Union and a tact testified again by the Planning some other Communist Parties have Commission and alter the Government allowed themselves to be misled by the was removed more than half of that facade of attack against right reaction land has been forcibly taken away by and do not see that the real thrust of the landlords with the assistance of these measures is against the people the Congress Government’s police— fighting for a 1 better existence. They a fact which is vouchsafed by the do not see that because of the basic policies of the Government the con Congress Party’s ally the C.P.I. But tradictions between the Government why?. Because the party is dominated and the people are intensifying. The by landlords. Who again sabotaged the CPI, the wretched traitors to the work State monopoly of wholesale trading ing class and the toiling people, con in foodgrains which was tommed from tinues to function as Her Majesty’s the roof tops as a revolutionary loyal opposition. Our party considers measure. Was it not the Congress if its foremost task to awaken and State Governments and Congress? In organise the people against the grave Kerala in 1969 Comrade EMS Nam* peril they are facing and throw them boodiripad Ministry passed a land re into the struggle for the withdrawal forms legislation. But the Government of the emergency and restoration of that came in power later have not whatever democratic rights they implemented it. The left and demo wrenched after innumerable struggles cratic parties fought for the imple and untold sacrifices for the resigna mentation and as a result of this strug tion of Smt. Indira Gandhi from Prime gle the landlords were forced to give Ministership and for release of all an account of 14 lakhs acre surplus political prisoners. We appeal to all land to the Government. But till now democratic forces and men of goodwill, the Government has taken only 2843 all who cherish the right of the people acres of land from them. to struggle for a better life to join with us in this struggle. Whatever The nationalisation of banks in be the price we may have to pay our 1969 was termed as a great revolution* party will be with the people in their ary measure. But whom have the struggles, for the CPI(M) has no other nationalised banks helped? Have they interest apart from the interests of not helped as ever the big monopoly the people. The interests of the peo houses and speculators all these years ple demand that the emergency, the to grow more rapidly and play havoc all pervasive measures taken under it, with the people's livelihood? And what the total denial of democracy be fought are these wonderful measures which and the broad based united struggle a&e so radical that these so-called right against the exploiters be carried on reactionary parties would have op* with the strength of the people. posed? Is an emergency necessary to distribute house sites to the landless We will never surrender ourselves in villages? to the ruling classes, we will never 303 Approval of Proclaim- JULY 21, 1075 Approval Ptoclama- 104 tio» of Emergency (Res.) tion of Emergency (Res.) tSfari A. JC GOPALAN] Marxist Communist Party* the Kerala betray the toiling people and demo Congressman of them combined—made cratic forces of our country. History this declaration of violating the ban; will vinlicate us. Thank you, and they could not put in a demons tration by way of violating the ban. MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri C. M. When the ban is violated, the Govern* Stephen, ment arrest them. Now, here is the real question. Here is a democratic SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Muvattu- government; here are certain laws, laws puzha): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to accepted by the people, laws accepted support this motion. There is not much by the sovereign parliament, laws ac which I have to add to what Babuji cepted by the various State Assemblies. has already said. He has explained We are not under an imperial govern before the House in great detail the ment to-day. Is it, or is it not the circumstances which compelled the obligation of the citizen and the politi Government to make use of the con cal party to conform to the law as far stitutional provision for declaring as possible' And when you violate emergency, so that the democratic the ban, what do you. expect the Gov fabric and the Constitution of India ernment to do? The whole process has could be saved from the dark forces been' debased during the last 27 years. which are trying quite vigorously to The person who violates the ban claims subvert it. I want, however, to advert protection. The enforcers of the ban to certain observations made by hon. do not need, do not get protection; this Shri A. K. Gopalan. He started his is the attitude They were arrested speech complaining about his arrest and put m iail for violating the ban. and the arrest of certain other mem Subsequently, they called for a bandh. bers of CP(M) in Kerala. lie should All the united parties gave a call for have, in fairness, told the House how bandh. We have seen the bandhs in the arrest took place and why the Kerala Whenever a bandh was an arrest was executed against him. It is nounced, whether m Kerala or Bengal, not as in the course of a normal step we have seen what was happening. in emergency that the arrest was made. Traffic will not move, buses will not The Communist Party (Marxist) * in move and transport will not ply. Air Kerala announced two programmes. craft will not land and schools will not One was to violate the bans which function. Factories will be closed. In were declared unler the Police Acts by honesty, let Mr. Oopalam tell us what the various district collectors. The happened on that day of bandh. What other was, two days hence to that, to happened was that all the factories have a ‘bandh’. worked, schools worked and the traffic SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: No bandh moved. Is it not correct? Am I making was announced. a wrong statement? Everything was all right. SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: These two programmes were announced by them; SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: W hat-. and 1 have seen how the Marxist every thing wag all right? What is Communist Party violates the bans, in the normal procedure, previous days. I have seen them vio lating the orders. It was never a case MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Gopalan* I am of somebody going and declaring that sorry; no discussion across the table. he was violating. It has always been a case of mass processions violating SHRI A. K. GOPALAft: He asked the bans; but in this case, what hap me a question. pened? A few people entered a car. The car came to the particular place. SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: I asked him They jumped out of the car and de whether on the day oi the bandh the clared that they Violated the ban. The buses did not ply, the factories did not 105 Approval of ASADBA 80, 169 7 (SAKA) Approval of l <>6 Proclamation of Emergency (Res,) Proclamation of Emergency (Res,) toork, the schools did not function, proof of the pudding is in the eating whether life was or was not normal. thereof. The way the people have Life was normal on that day. reacted is the test. Nobody denies that the people have reacted in favour Mr. Gopalan says that An the course of this. of the last 25 years the Government has become unpopular, that all the They are talking about the Constitu Opposition parties have become popu tion. In November, 1949 we gave unto lar, that this emergency has not the ourselves a Constitution. An inde approval of the people. After the pendent judiciary has been provided proclamation, what is the reaction in for, fundamental rights have been pro the country? May 1 draw a parallel?, vided for, Parliament is provided for, In 1942 in the Quit India Movement election machinery is provided for, Gandhiji and all the national leaders democratic freedom is provided for, were arrested and were whisked away everything is provided for. Things in the night. Every repressive law were moving perfectly well, but was imposed. What happened? The during the last four years we have country was aflame. Masses of people seen a peculiar situation in India. moved, they offered themselves to be Babuji has given a detailed statement massacred. There was an upheaval of what has been happening. We saw in the whole country. Today has the . it here in Parliament itself and in same thing happened: The soc ailed the different Legislative Assemblies. glorious leaders of the Opposition par They are speaking about liberty, about ties are today in jail. Lok Nayak Jaya freedom. Is it the democratic freedom Prakash Naiayan is in jail. He was of anybody to compel an M.L.A. to taken to the hospital in an open car. resign? Is it the democratic freedom Nobody looks at him/^ot even a dog of anybody to obstruct the proceedings barks. 1 am not poon-poohing or mak of Parliament? Is it the democratic ing fun of anybody. freedom of anybody to go up to the rostrum and threaten the Speaker? Is In 1942 the people’s leaders were it the democratic freedom of anybody arrested and there was on outburst in to demand that the Assemblies and the country. Today the so-called pre Parliament bo dissolved’ tending leaders were arrested by a people’s Government, which Govern ment Mr. Gopalan says is unpopular. Mr. Gopalan was speaking about the In spite of that unpopularity, things Prime Minister's resignation. Demo are quiet. They cannot muster even cracy is an arrangement by under ten people to observe their bandh. standing among Hit, people and by They have to go in a car and get into understanding we have arrived at our the police van and escape into prison, Constitution. The Constitution pro vides for a particular method of run ning the Government. The method is I was amused when he was speaking that the majority party will run the about the Home Minister of Kerala. If Government the majority party will an M.P. is put in jail and is kept in elect its leader, 1hat leader will be the jail, tl»ere can be a complaint. In spite Prime Minister or Chief Minister as of the fact that he is released in time the case may be. InHL870 elections took tor th Do you really want us to provide The whole responsibility for the pre the means W which the Constitu sent development must lie at the door tion could be saved? This emer of the Opposition who made their main gency provision is merely intended task to defy the law and the Consti to meet one purpose namely, that tution, to stop the march of the nation, aJl our efforts of this year pend to take the country to the path of ing Constitution making may not anarchy, to hand it over to the re go in vain, and those people, who actionary forces and make the people will be in frowcr; would in future their slaves for all time to come. be adequately empowered to save the Constitution. I would ask the Hoes* to consider this chapter as & This House must thank the Prime sort of safety valve which is in Minister for a timely action in invok tended to save the Constitution.*' ing this constitutional provision so that democracy might be safeguarded and Alter 27 years of our operation of might be handed over to the posterity this Constitution, we have come to a with all tho solemnity with which the stage in which the Constitution is fathers of Constitution handed it down cracking, its operation has been made to us. I support this motion with the impossible, discipline has been dis fullness of my heart. sipated and the march of the nation towards the progress has been' stopped SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Alipore-: everywhere. An anarchy has; started Mr. Chairman, Sir, our party after due flying about and everybody is being deliberations, and after trying very torn to pieces. This constitutional seriously to collect all possible and democracy has to be saved. Therefore, reliable information that it is possible this particular provision which was in for us to acquire, is of the firm view corporated in the Constitution to save that this stem measure and the swift the Constitution has to be resorted to. measures which were taken on the 26th As I said, the taste of the pudding is and subsequent days in order to put in the eating. The people have accept down the danger which had developed ed the whole thing and there is abso to internal security, were fully justi lute calm and complete reception to fied and we supported them. In fact, the whole thing. one of my quarrels with the Govern I will conclude by just quoting one ment is and it is my experience down sentence. In 1937, the Parliament of below in the States also among the England again promulgated an Emer people that people have not been in gency Act and Sir Samuel Hoare said formed adequately and sufficiently yet on page 69 of the Parliamentary De as to what actually was developing bates Fifth Series—Vol. 351, House of here dn the Capital City o f Delhi just Commons, Official Report, as follows: prior to the 26th June. People do not know. “If for the time being we are setting in abeyance the liberties and privileges that we have prized so SHRI JAGANNATH RAO (Chatra- much in the past, we set them aside, pur): Why con’t you tell them? not as a result of any dictation, but as' an act of our own volition* and SHRI INDRAJIT GIXPTA: X *m go. as an insurance that in setting them ing to tell. I am going to t*& you, aside for a* Effort time, we ehall but that, will be Incomplete informa retain them permanently in_the tion, because the Government does not future.” share file information. i n Approval of Proclama- JULY 21* 197# Approval of Prtffteta- 1X2 Hon of Emergency (Res,) tion of Emergency (Res.) SHRI JAGANNAT& RAO: You tdl the banning o f certain organisations* uft etc., could have been carried out. That is an academic point into which X do SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I want not want to go. the Government to tell the entire country and put at the disposal ,of the Now, the starting point made by our country all the facts and information friends on this side of the House and that they have got. I am sorry to say, among them my C.P.MI friends also, was that there In 1962 emergency, the then Home was no danger of internal security. Minister, Shri Gulzarilal Nanda, did This is the crux of the question. Once not waste much time in coming out you accept this that it is all a big with the Government’s white paper, hoodwinking trick and nothing else, which% in my opinion, was not a very that there was no actual threat to the good white paper. It was full of internal security, then I can follow the inaccuracies: it was misinformed. But entire logic of their arguments. But if I do not know why the same method you accept the fact that there was a cannot be used at least this time. very serious and grave threat to the Whether these swift and stem measure internal security which developed, m could or could not be taken without our opinion, particularly m those tew the promufgatfon of another Emer days between 12th June and 24th or gency, a second Emergency is a tech 25th June, then you will have to look nical matter which can be discussed. at the matter in an entirely different way. Now, some friends on this'side have made a big point out of that, saying Sir. I am sure, you will not give me that all the powers which were exer enough t^me to allow me to go into the cised were already m existence. They details. Mr. II. M Patel is very anxi have asked what was the need of pro ous to know it, I want him and the mulgating a second Emergency. I do other people also to know it i want not know whether they mean to say the Government to toll Jt because they that if the second Emergency had not have got access to all the facts whereas been promulgated, then they would I have not have no objection to the measures taken. Certainly, that is not their argument, as I understand it. That is THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE a technical matter. I myself feel that, MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS perhaps, the Government has thought (SIIRI F H. MOHSIN) Sir, the Gov it necessary to safeguard its legal posi ernment has published a booklet “Why tion since the first Emergency of 1971 Emetgency*’ II jou permit me, I can pertains only to the threat of external lay it on the Table oi the House aggression. Maybe, their legal advisers thought that it was better to promul MR. CHAIRMAN You can lay it on gate a second one also in terms of the the Table of the House. provisions of the Constitution which relates to the danger of internal dis turbances. But oven df the second SHRI ERASMO DE SEQUEIRA Emergency had not been ^promulgated, (Marmago) > Can we also lay on the it is true that under the existing Table our reply? Maintenance of Internal Security Act, under the Defence of India Act and Rules, under the Presidential Powers SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: I beg to lay Which already exist, the actual measure on the Table a copy of the publication which have been carried out, including “ Why Emergency?*’ on the Table of the arrests, including the imposition of the House. [Placed in Library, See pre-censorship of the press, including NO. LT-9802175], *13 Approval of ASADMA 30, 1897 (SAKA) Approval of 114 Proclamation of Em ergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) MB. CHAIRMAN: You should have we want to play the gam© of Parlia laid it on the Table earlier, not in the mentary democracy and also want midst of a speech. Anyhow, I per to subvert that Parliamentary demo mitted you. cracy by certain other actions out side. I don’t want to recount all this. I am at least today gratified by the fact that, on behalf of our Party, it was I who first drew attention in this SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: He should House about a year and a half ago to be a little more alert during the period the first call that was made publicly of Emergency. He suddenly woke up by Jayaprakash Narayan to the Army when I referred to that. After I have and Police to disobey orders. At that persued the document, whatever it is, time, many people on that side of the we will decide whether it meets our House, including the Minister, tried to request bo not. 1 do not know what its pooh-pooh it and minimise by say contents are I do not want to go ing 'why should we make so much of into all the developments of last one it*. Today they have understood year and a half because I have not got better. ( Interruptions), onough time at my disposal. I think trie mover of the motion recounted that part of it fairly well through he could I am convinced about it because I have brought m some more facts. see what is happening in so many That was the background—that cer countries in the world. Mr. Gopalan tain Parties had formed a sort of has said, Communist Parties in dif Front with which the CPM leader ferent countries, including the Com ship was not entirely identifying it munist Party in the Soviet Union, self at all times. I should say they have been misleat1 and they have not were flirting with it, sometimes saying understood what is happening. Even they were with it and sometimes say the Communist Party of Democratic ing they wore not entirely with it and Vietnam has been misled, after fight on, when ultimately, in West ing for thirty years with arms in their Bengal at least, they openly partici hands for independence against pated with this Front and joined meet American imperialism, The only peo ings, demonstrations and all these ple who have not been misled are the things. Anyway this Front was, CPM leaders! under the leadership of Jayaprakash Narayan, trying for the last year or The whole trouble is that this is, if year and a half to seize power in var I may say so, one of the weakness of ious States by means which, (as the Shri Jagjivan Ram’s presentation of mover of the motion has said in very the case. So far as he spoke, it was delicate language, I should say) were all right* But there is a very vital, not entirely constitutional methods. a very relevant international context. If you want to play the game of Par (Interruptions). There is a very re liamentary democracy, you have to levant international background, in abide by rules also; otherwise, don’t the context of which these develop play it. I can unde„*tanr* those ments are taking place What kind of groups and parties who had tfcfcen the politicians and political students of stand from the very beginning that world affairs are we if we cannot re ‘we do not believe in this Parliament late the two and if we think that this and Parliamentary democracy and we is happening in isolation, that these propose to boycott Parliament and are internal events that have no con will not come anywhere near Parlia nection or relevance to the inter ment", but will carry out our pro national context? Unfortunately, Mr. grammes somewhere in the maidan, Jagjivan Earn did not mention it. The but I don’t understand the Parties who fact is that the United States’ imperi want to eat their cafee and have it too, alism—this is a word that a censor IX* Approval tonn iiiuxajii vjmyvaj ^ 'i :. p i ) | < :you cannot■ to goandbroadcastthat i0 k : this danger and,therefore,' rumour aboufr^ ■■ the main thing is that people must be ; ation ■ ijS%■ ■;'. _';;■> t.; teijpliiSiSia^^ ' ';■■ seriously which can give them im- mediate relief and some benefit. Sir, these muJti-national companies ' axe .operating here and they arethe ■' I know it is also true that these conduit-pipes through which the C.I.A. economic measures which have been operates. How much evidence do you ; announced are nothing new. These want? There are books and volumes things had been said two or three of evidences which are available now years back People s^ they did not to everybody including the report of implement it even with the massive a United Nations Sub-Committee, of majority at their command. How will which Mr. 1». K. JFha was the Chair they implement it when there is an man. Please read these two or three emergency? Emergency has not been bulky volumes and see the evidence brought m, in m f opinion, to imple and material which they have brought ment these measures. Emergency in there as to how these companies measures were brought in for some operate. otfoer purpose, to Suppress what I said, was developing; But how the oppor tunity is there and it may be the last Here is an Authority. Please read opportunity. This time lit you fail, no it sometime. This is a very famous poiwer on earth can save us or save American Journalist, I. P. Stone, who this country from this conspiracy of published his private paper called the rightist forces and external im “I, P. Stone’s Weekly”. You please perialist forces. Nothing will save read it You will find here one com this country. So, with that sense o f pany which operates in this country, urgency the measures have to be car Bechtels, which, you will remember, ried out. was brought in hereto design Haldia- 15 lira. Barauni Oil Pipeline and got away with it. Later on it was found that The programmes announced by the the whole work was done defectively. Prime Minister, in our opinion, dp They were given huge payments and not by any means go far enough. they went away. Mr. Stone said in Much more radical measures should his book that at the time when be taken. But even those measures Bechtels were operating in this coun she has announced, if properly im try, one gentleman, by the name of plemented, will go some way to all Mr. John A. McCone was appointed eviate the situation and mobilise the as head of the C.I.A. in the United people. States. He was head of the C.IA. and he was also the head of the Bechtela. I have to point out two or three There are people in this country thingsand then finish. We have sug whose names I will not say just now gested of course that certain nation but a day will come when I will ex alisation measures are needed. The pose them here, who are now nego Prime Mimster-~prompted by whom, tiating in order to Hiring Bechtels into I don-1 know—has, in my opinion, this country again. Who are they? done ® very unwise thing, impolitic What are they doing here? At whose #teg, to go cm the Radio and an instance they are doing it? Areyou nounce tftat there* will be no mofe ■ serious aboutthese .thingsf,;_.''Ace:y^u: nationalisation, I t she had notw ant- ' seriousabout fighting this danger? I . ^ do anything |ust now, she could ' ;■ say this because some thii^S; 4i^i tak- Approval of ASADHA 80, 1897 (SAKA) Approeal o f 126 125 ProelamaHm of Emergency (R es.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) tog place which require a much more people are laid off. Installed capa urgent look. city of these industries is being sabo taged not by the workers but by the employers. Apart from the power Yau have pledged yourself to intro shortage which is also a big cons* duce public distribution system of traint of course, if steps are taken to commodities at fixed prices. But it is bring the employers to book and the yet to come. In the meantime prices installed capacity alone can be util of several items have been raised by ised, that itself will raise the produc ifoe Government itself. Take kerosene, tion by 25 to 30 per cent. In some cooking gas, controlled doth, coal, cases, they are deliberately keeping aluminium, which will affect the alu an idle capacity so that they can minium utensils also, steel and so on. create an artificial shortage in the The explanation given is, for produc market and keep the profits in their tion w« require to give them higher podkets. What measures are you prices, this and that. But, at the going to take against them? moment, please look at it from the point of view of the common man. The public distribution system has not Finally, one word more that I would come. The slight fall which has taken like to say about pre-censorship. I place in some wholesale prices does know that it is a sore point for our not yet benefit the retail consumer. journalists and correspondent friends Whether you will do it or not, I don’t because they feel that and one of know. But in the meantime, prices them was saying that 'our pen has of these controlled items have been been taken away from our hands; raised by the Government, items like now what can I do?* kerosene, coarse cloth, etc. Only the other day, you raised the price of Sir, the mover of the Motion has cooking gas. Is this the way to in very correctly mentioned that cer spire confidence in the people that tain groups of newspapers were play something will surely be done now ing an active role in working up a with these emeigency measures? I conspiracy for seizing power. We don’t know. know the big groups, the monopoly press, which has the biggest circula There is the other question of see tion in the country. If they had been ing that all impediments to produc allowed to function normally freely tion are removed. Very good. today, by now, within 20 or 25 days, they would have created a havoc in the country. Everyday all kinds of But the major impediments are not imaginary and cooked up stories coming from the strikes by em would have been pedalled out. One ployees. I can’ prove it. The major day they would have said that Indira impediment is coming from the em Gandhi is making a secret trip, over ployers. night dash, to Moscow, to get her orders from there and rush back. In my State of West Bengal now What can you do? That would be big business houses are running fac in the headlines. They would have tories; all of them are running below also said that the Soviet army is their installed capacity. They have massing on the border and they may declared lock-outs or closures; Birlas march in any time. A « it is, they say have declared look-outs; Metal Box the C'F.I. is supposed to be running Campaay has declared a lock-out; this Government. The tragedy of it Sen EaUeigh & Co. which manufac is that we are not taken into confid tures bicycles have threatened clo ence in what they do.' That is our sures; XK* also has threatened do* complaint. There is & purpose foefeind sujpm* In Hindustan Motors 6,000 this game. I say that pre-censorship 117 -Approval of Proclama- * HTLT 21, 1975 o f Procluma*- X28 tion of Emergency (tte$*) Hon o f Emergency (Re$.) [ t o Indrajit Guptal and who were the people involved* to necessary for the time being at But the nam^s are cut out by the least to muzzle and control the mo censors. Take Jar exampla the nopoly Press. This is the kind of Ananda Bazar JPairika~~a big com dangerous role that the Press wad bine. There an overnight raid had playing and the consequence is that been carried on. The raid has been the other papers belonging to our carried out there but can any paper party and other parties also have to publish the news that Amanda Bazar suffer. But, whatever we may say, Patrika premises were raided and the circulation of our papers is mini they found such and such thing. I mal or fractional compared to the cannot publish the names of persons mighty press owrited by the Birlas, who are indulging in lock-outs and Tatas and Kamnath Goenka and such lay-offs. What is the point of cen gentlemen. How can we compete sorship? Against whom is it direct with them? ed? So, Sir, 1 suggest that some sort of' advisory committee or some sort The reflection of all this is now in of editorial committee be formed the western press. And jjow the re which will constantly review the flection is seen in the West German work of censorship and attend to and American Presses as also British complaints which come to them and Press carrying on their vituperative re-formulate and modify guidelines campaign against our country and as and when necessary so that this against Mrs. Gandhi’s government. kind of stupid and un-intelligent They are writing every day. But, I censorship does not take place. I have rfo time to quote all these things. hope the ruling party—because they It is very interesting. But the actual have to take the initiative in tho mat administration or working of the cen ter—will get down jwiouslv to the sorship should be at least intelligent. task of doing something and not just After all, censorship is imposed for a talking. Time for talking iq over. particular purpose. It is imposed for Stop talking now. It is a life and the purpose of weakening the rightist dealh question. Do something Xor forces and for strengthening the for God's sake. Mobilise* your •ncoplo and ces of the people, democratic forces. tell them to ?o down to the masses It must be used for that purpose only and do some political campaigning. and it must not be used in a stupid, Fulfil the land distribution pro wooden headed and bureaucratic way. gramme. It is happening and complaints are SHRI B. R. BHAGAT (Shahabad): coming that the people are taking ad Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support vantage of this. Somebody told me the resolution so ably moved by that he had come from the United Babuji on the proclamation of emer Nations and in the U.N., the impres gency. The Prime Minister has des sion is being given that in the land cribed this proclamation of emergency of Indira Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru as an attempt by Government to bring and Mahatma Gandhi and Rabindra back on* rails the democracy which Nath Tagore have become taboo be was being subverted and even des cause the quotations from them are troyed by certain elements in the being ruthlessly cut by the censors. country. This is being taken advantage of not to our benefit at all. Therefore, I Babuji while moving the Resolution would say that on the one hand we ha?, very categorically and lucidly des are not avowed to publish anything cribed these attempts over a period, to expos** the vested interests, by particularly sinice 196?, by the vest name I would like to expose some ed interests and the political parties places which have been raided representing the vested interests. Se in Calcutta and what was found there condly, certain interested communal 129 Approval of ASADHA SO, 180? {SAiCA) Approval of i $0 Proclamation of Emergency (Res,) Proclamation of Emergency (Res,) parties tried to subvert democracy try is facing, than to debate i t I am particularly because they were thwart* glad thig debate is going on on healthy ed by the strength and the policies lines. The force* that were subvert o f the Congress party and the mas* ing democracy were working on all sive support enjoyed by the Con fronts. It has been described how the gress party. Since they could not dis agitation in Gujarat and subsequently lodge the Congress party in elections, the plunge in Bihar, were manoeuvres after the elections they took to extra- to subvert the representative charac democratic and antidemocratic me ter of the Legislatures. thods which have led to the present situation. I would not go into thoae Sir, what have we seen in the last details. It is neither necessary nor two years in this House itself? We possible in the short time at my dis have seen' the way the House was posal But I would like to deal with being conducted—I and my friends on two or three aspects of th© present both sides including Prof. Hiren question. Mukerjee have spoken several times— and particularly, the way certain ele My predecessor, Shri Indr aj it ments and certain groups in this Gupta, has described the situation as House were behaving, holding the a very grave one. He has said so House to ransom and denigrating the very rightly. It is a situation of now whole system. Their aim was to deni or never because if we do n°t suc grate parliamentary process in the ceed in meeting the challenge of the country. Some of the Members were emergency, and the reasons that led saying *What is there in' Parliament?' to at, the country’s future and the fu They have spoken like this. Some of ture of democracy and all that we the loaders of the Opposition have stood for in our struggle for freedlom spoken that Parliament is nothing, are at stake and, therefore, I hope we that Parliament is powerless, and will realise the gravity of the situa therefore, they are interested outside tion. On the other hand, the achieve Parliament, in direct action, in' agita ments of democracy during the last tions in Satyagrahas and in mass 27 years are something which we can movements. They were saying this. be proud of. In the perspective of In repeated elections they thought world history, if we see this experi they will be returned to power, but, ment on such a gigantic and vast since they did not get majority, they scale, it is so exciting to see this func declared Parliament was useless for tioning in all parts, with great diffi them. That was their feeling. Dur culties, m one of the poorest lands, ing the last two years, that is how, emerging after colonial rule and all in this House, all those Members who that It is so exciting to see the way took oath to uphold the Constitution it is functioning. It is going to be a and to work in Parliament, were most shining example in' history, not making it less purposeful, were deni only in this Century, but ever since grating it and were behaving in' a human experiment began. But the manner that Parliament hag become fact that democracy Is being suverted more and more redundant. This was by certain people, certain groups, is the view expressed by many Mem such a Shocking thing and I think it bers. This led to a situation in which is necessary for the Government and the Proclamation of Emergency had the ruling party and the parties who to be taken recourse to. It was the believe in it, to educate the people. last attempt to save democracy and One of the purposes o f calling this we are grateful to the Prime Minister Session is to have a debate on this and the Government for taking this and there could he tso better educa st^p. History has shown that in simi tion, public education of the situation, lar situations, in many other coun the dangerous «ituation that the coun- tries. in Germany and other countries, 1113 tS .—f . . . ■ wiSfcl'1 ;■ ^.0^.■ ■ ' 3& M ^ the force® of vested:■ . not only national in characterj these --iiU!cto-!ii^W^^ tjh* forces of reaction, of vested interests, ; national crisis, the economic crisis, of right reactionaries, or feudist reac«,\ the discontent and frustration among - tionary forces as you eali them^'aw;.' youth and others and they have been operating in the villager, are operat abls to destroy democracy. This wafl ing in the cities, although in because the leader* of the majority their present character, theyfcave party flinched, developed cold feet confined themselves to the cities. and they did not take strong and de Even the middle class, the Intellec termined action. I am glad that Ws- tuals, students and youth were mobi io ty will record that this was not the lised for disintegrating the Establish case in this country. It was a moment ment and defeating representative o f crisis, a grave crisis and the lea* rule in the country. Vested interests in derp of the Government, particularly the rural areas were also being mobi the Prime Minister and senior lead* lised. We could see the naked viol ers of the Congress Party realised that ence envapouring all their efforts. In this was the time in which any de the UP elections, we saw the same for featism, any weakness on their part ces in operation. They thought they Will set at naught whatever the Con would be able to defeat and dislodge gress stood for throughout its career, the Congress in UP. When they did and particularly during the last 27 not win, it was a watershed in Indian years of Independence. They realis politics. _ It was at that time that they ed that the future of the country and decided that they would henceforth the aspirations and objectives for not be able to defeat the Congress in which we stand were all at stake. elections. Therefore, all these direct action methods were adopted. This is what happened (Interruptions). Do It was a moment of crisis and it not divert. We are discussing a very was, a moment of leadership as well. serious matter. Bahuguna is an indi The , Prime Minister showed that in vidual. We are concerned with the proclaiming the Emergency. This forces. Do not confuse the issue. It shows What a determined leadership is big policies that matter, individuals can do. But, this is just a beginning. do not matter. You and I would quit We have stalled these forces of reac the stage. We are concerned with tion. We have stalled, at the moment, the future of the country, with the the forces of chaos and anarchism. future of democracy in the country Particularly, during the last one year, which we try to build up. they were having the initiative. It appeared that these forces had the As I said, they are not only natio initiative in the country. They were nal in character. See democracy's re running the country, they could do cord in the country, in the fifties, in whatever they like with the Legisla the sixties. Compare it wfth any ture, with the Parliament, with the where. They were talking of deni' Government an'd they were also ex grating thet process, *he process of horting the Army and the Police to Indian democracy. The mass politi revolt. It appeared that these anarch. cal strength, the political will of the 1st forces were on the march and people was sti^ngttiened. tri the everything was in their hands. What Bangladesh crisis, we . saw', what was ha* been done through these various the strength of the fibre of the coun ■'.'.steps'; .taken by the Government was try. Despite imperialist intervention tosn a tch th ein itiative and to stall iaf the Bay pf Bengal, despite ik * big ■ ?5ut, we -have- t o ' g o ; forces ranged a«ainst us, theunity ■v;S&*td so th# theseforceg are' defeat ./ andstrength of the teader&ipofthe ed once an afor all. :; country showed that India is apower m Approval of ASABHA 30, W l 0SAKA) Approval of 134 ProclarnaUon of Emergency (Res,) Proclamation of Emergency (Res,) that i® emerging which has to he rec the unity of democracy in this coun koned with. try and strikes at the root of Indian nationalism. This process is not only anarchic, but it is anti-national as In the international world today, well. those who have experience 01 inter national forces operating all over know that no incident is isolated, no So we are fighting and grappling incident is nationalistic. Therefore, with a situation of various kinds, com we should not keep our vew confined plex, varied and dangerous. It % a to our borders. The present-day situation where the economic crisis world structure is such that India is there. Prices rose, not only in this playing a strong role is not liked. country but in other countries also. Prime Minister Nehru had stated once Economic crisis was faced not only by that India could stand, would stand, this country but even by many other a» the tallest country or else it would countries The Opposition parties in fall down. But the world powers will other countries did not behave in the never like any tall country to emerge manner as the Opposition Parties be because it disturbs the status quo. have here. I shall give two exam India emerging as a strong power in ples. this part of the world and playing its role in the comity of nations is going to disturb the world view of many The Soviet Union functions in a powers. Therefore, they are also in different manners the Chinese furto* terested in a destabilising process. It tion in a different manner. There are has been described in. very lurid de groups inside the party. There the tails. But the fact is that if the coun party hierarchy is such that democra try is strong, their move cannot suc cy is provided within the party itself. ceed. India can only be strong if it Soviet Union imported 27 million ton follows the democratic process. No nes of foodgrains* the highest in his process of totalitarianism, no process tory. We imported much less and of despotism in such a vast country paid for it in cash. China imported with so many diverse elements of lan in that year 10 million tonnes; later guage, creed and religion, can suc on it imported regularly 8-10 million ceed. India can be governed only tonnes. Chinese population is more through consensus* Our founding than ours but the Soviet population fathers, our leaders, gave us a Con is half of ours. Yet neither in that stitution the essence of which is bas country nor outside a feeling was ed on majority rule and respect for created that the country was collaps the minorities and existence of politi ing or breaking down. But here what cal parties based on a broad spectrum did the opposition do? X give an of policies. A democracy based on a other example of a parliamentary sectional or communal policy is no democracy, the United Kingdom. As democracy. If a party is formed on a person experienced In economic the basis of a communal appeal or a affairs X can say that the United King sectional approach, it is not a politi dom had been going through a far cal party, a democratic party in that worse economic crisis during the last sense. It is on the existence of poli three or four years than India or any tical parties on a broad spectrum of other country has ever gone through. policies that the country can be kept Faced with a situation Heath declar together, strong* united, on the basis ed that he would go fo r an election; of consensus. Anybody who is try they went for a general election* and ing either through ‘total revolution’ they lost the election. Wilson came Or *partyles* democracy1 or satyagra- and Wilson had to go again for a *e-' ha or direct action to disturb that, neral election. What do the Opposi tries to distrub or snap the fibre of tion Parties do here? They say that 135 Approval of Proclama JULY 21, 1VI$ Approval of Proclama~ 136 tion o f Emergency (Res*) tion of Emergency (Bee.) £Shri a R. Bhagat] Cor their own purpose has not only tfcfa Government must go; they in* bee n brought back on t£e rails but it dulge In all kinds of character assas is also functioning and the future of sination. These things never played the country is safe and a calm atmos any role in the general elections thefe. phere prevails in the country. It is Is it democracy, Babuji asked is it absolutely necessary for the function* democracy to indulge in the charac ing of democracy and all that we ter assassination of the leader? When stand for. you cannot attack the policies, you attack the personalities. That is what w r o w w wteft : (TOTPTT) : has been done here. Corruption has mrwflr *r$wr, 1971 ft wwrawfai to be eliminated. But by painting a picture that everybody who is some farfr ^ *TFT body is corrupt you are creating a srm *pt n *f»r, arcr 352 $V situation in which respect for the irerfrt snwfor qft m m s r t v t Government, for law goes down, the credibility of the Government goes *tarrr farfar down. This is the first nail in the f t 1 1971 ft qflr fnqrcPM*fto coffin of destruction of democracy. fk fd w im r f f airar wto* *prt We have taken the correct steps. w t , | f 1 But we have to go a long way to im plement the programme and create urcrcwrefcr ferfa *rtw jf ? confidence among the people. The fjr ^ faron > fa ffg snpsr Emergency is not to atifle Opposition. %srpff*Frftti5fRr ftsF sfw rw ti Some hon. colleagues of ours are in jail. This is inavitable in the present m m rn+TtftH fetfa* w f— w % situation. It has been done on a very St v m Sfrntr 3|T I I tr^T art q? t selective basis. Neither the Govern % 21 1 ment nor anybody else are happy over it. What matters is the programme f> f% «r^r f^rfw 'ter that has to be implemented. What is the role of the Government, the ruling *1*^ ft for qfc ^rptff vt tiwrg party or all other parties in this? Cl ’ Shri Indrajit Gupta supported it. He ^5T ft ?ft 'TcTT may have difference on certain points. ft ^nr w r i snr ^ It is true that there is nothing dra % srrc: ft sft tffarar 1 matic about the 21 point economic programme. But what is dramatic is that it has been brought in a situation sn&f w* 21 m sram when the country was on the brink of | ft sv m m % m r *?rr £ disaster. Many of us have spent 30- 35 years in public life before an'd after ft ’3JBRT «f>W ’®lT|rrr i , 5T8TR independence. Senior leaders had aft ft W yt ggffoTC iTT’ft vNNr % ft*rr jjtft vrtw *8|v*Tf 1 firfiitt ^ w iirfw vriw fa r ^pr *pt vr ^nrw t ^ w^fld ’Jrit %r f^ n p r 13 f f tfhc ------JS ------!*V- . -i*. <■» i ft - — J\ uiTtf arafTC *f STfn v t F fl*w ti 3TTITW STfTT 16 ^TR «lW ^ *rl% apr qr?ft H# 1 1 «lf Tt *T ftFJH *r$T PPRHt ? w 1969 & *!^f 1 1 5 f t <£f? ?RTW VT S R W ?pcr *fcr ^rr ? w *r$ *p$^ ^ Pwr «rr ^et ?m ft 1 §rnsr 19 ^ n r tf?w 'TO 9HW % fa TOST *sr «Wr£ ? OTf ^ *ft% «f>r Tr?ft *f$ 1 1 Mhfjfli t^t 2T#r ^ft^RT % SfTT^ t F fftR ft^TT *ra$*r$ MR. CHAIRMAN: You may take a # Tsnft *t£st~h|*t 3$ tiwrif fa few minute* more* w W T O ? , f 1W^lOTRr W ? f W SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSHI: *$ f(r w * ; *■*.!*.... V No time hag been toted by the Busi V ttW *fK 1 ness Advisory Committee. And you cannot decide the time yourself. snrt ?w annw m a * w l - i a s i & ipt 5f tw w® f 1 w r w ftsrfV MR. CHAIRMAN: You please car # ^ w t o t ^rt wr vrofhf #T i v.~- ^f^fi W T f^Tn TOT f i ;':Wf\ f??/f I :■ WT^R Vrt $h *fM R *PT W W ^pTTO% % <#TO f X W T O 'i-v.iS:'. ^ :-^BSE”,ft6r- i snsrwsMYaft % wf^: Sf T O T V f f e n , liNpp % ^ i f 1* m i w w t o i t^ -1 9 4 8 i w f r ? 'PfTOffllK MR. CHAIRMAN: You have said that. Now you t*y to conclude. **8 t f , MR. CHAIRMAN; You take five t .... minutes more and try to conclude. SHRI JAGANATHRAO; JOSHX: v h w m m S (fr^wrr) : srfarcr The description given by my hon. STORFC TSfr aTRft I I friend, Shri Indrajit Gupta, was that there would have been a catastrophe If those leaders had not been arrested. WWW tT*l ifhfft : If you are not going to give me an opportunity to express myself on those m w w r 5 1 tfrjp r,^ ^ ^ fr5*T*rn?ft «rn^t Having made a searching enquiry into m m $*rr § ?fr arsr $t $*r the conspiracy to murder Mahatma $ *?f ^ a p frfa s rr ? ^rrxiw «rcr ^hs%» Gandhi, the Kapur Commission cate gorically declared: % f a ? r #fT q?t t o *n£? f a *rrr srfa ^ t o *pt% |* i “An experienced administrator like Mr. R. N. Banerjee has stated that the RSS as such were not res Do you know who started this word ponsible for the murder of Mahatma “gherao” or bandh? It is Shri Dange, Gandhi, meaning thereby that one who spoke in this House “ tomorrow could not name the organisation as we will gherao you’' {Interruptions) such as being responsible for that most diabilical crime, the murder of the apostle of peace, the like of whom ^ 3ft VTS3T ^ R T T f t the world dieg not see excepting after centuries.” srt ? rr5r ^ r s ttt % frrsr p j f ... stpt ?r foff *f sror srt «r *ft t^?o x(o w f m : r m * ipNIr. 3 * ^ 3 0 2 ? w f& jw 1 3 *rv t s $ m srr m x 1 1 sflpsrft * 1 80,000 sfoff * mn w i * f t W C S W f T W ^ a f t fror ^rert hv«%, toft % frnr^ fro vifh?H «rr, ff ssrfc f® ra 1 ft w r srnr ^ t «pt * m r * r m t o t ^tt^ t «rr ? ^ *rn>tf*ro*$ro S— 1948 * «P^r ^rrsftr mr& % They were all cyclostyled charges « r t q * r © ^ 0 ?nfta : ^ s n r right from arson to murder. v j t stnrlKR ? 16 hrs. « f t f W W x m litaft: T O T ^ f^ R f fa m m 1 f , Then I quote the view of the Chief if % sraRr TOrr 'vrf'dir f — Justice of this country, Shri K. Subba Hao. It is on page 14. It says: “B*. M. BANERJEE: ‘Although “Friends, I am very happy to have RSS wa8 banned, it should not be come here to meet you all and say taken to be an acceptance by the a few words to you.” Government of the allegation that (interruptions) the murder of Mahatma Gandhi was "'Friends* I am very happy to have by the members of the BBS as come here to meet you all and say such* * a few words to you. I am not a politi- l£x Approval Proclaim- JXSLY 2!* 1975 Approval of Proelamo- l$& tfon of Emergency (Res.) tion o f Emergency (K«s.) [Shri Jagsnnathr&o Joshi) «r»r cian, ana hope X vrill not become *nwft S, «fr one. What 1 have said is only as a person who has been watching the ftn rrw ri# % H! ... activities of the E.S.S. It is help ing the country to develop national consciousness*’ Then T. R. Venkaiaraman Sastri, President, Indian liberal federations (Interruption) referring to fascism said like this: This is the respect you are showing f “A Government or a State can be to the judiciary, Mr. Chairman, X .characterised as fascist, but not a am not allowed to read it out. private association to which no one is compelled to belong.” “ and I am sure this will become one of the powerful instruments of I put an Unstarred Q. No. 7998 dated national integration. What is more, 24-4-74, but the Government had not I feel that this institution tries to replied. build up the character of our young* men, and if it succeeds in that This morning itself, I had raised * attempt it will succeed in rebuilding point. our nation**. These are the views of Mr. Subba Rao ...... ■ ■ „«i . 1 ___. _____ Now, I am reading the Mysore High sit *rt t o stf* Court’s verdict. It is on page 13. This case was brought before the Mysore High Court in 1966. It says: irmrtR farr «rr fa qiforrfe ■% . ______\ A k £+ ...... - V V top p c m m t*n 1 'The Mysore High Court In one of its celebrated judgements, after srara ^ f w r 1 listening to the various charges of ‘communalism’, ‘subersion’, ‘violence* What guarantee is there that tomorrow I will not be arrested...... etc., advanced by the Government against Sangh, declared unambiguo usly: “All the above materials show that prima facie the IlSS is a non-political cultural organisation 3 f t tTf*r m m n x$r 1 % w m r without any hatred or ill-will to | wards non-Hindus and that many eminent and respected persons in This is for the Home Minister, Mr. the country have not hesitated to Mobsin, to know that this question preside over its functions or appre was tabled by me on 24-4-74. ciate the work of its volunteers. In a country like ours which has m m ft«rr % fw ^ tto | *rrr ot&t *f *erf^ «n* ? «m* & r * srtfa1^ ft? f » ^ 1 %fsx srt s t*? % % sm#!T »r * % for* v tf srfsnm Mp ySi. t o *r ffTPsr $®r «rt ra? : tsrT 1 1 ^ *rforr q m m t * qft ifrc t o f t % ^ ^firPrMf 9$ t tv $r TO m fts vr w ft 9w rif lit w if 4NA # Afiffif | t W in «W* TOf $ Y JfTO *!$? «t m tPI STTTO fiwfif *>t 'AWT fTC$t |tj 16.12 lm> f$T *T ft? #* $*T % JT: t * T O * t 11 [Saitz ISHAani Sambsau in'the C h a ir ] / w w n rn T O f, %rr «ftr whR ®p$r *r fa wffiff w tragftirwr ^ t 5f T w rer inrft t, ^ * ?ft «r^ tpr% ^ 1 1 irft fi«l% *ff %, 1971 «¥$ ^JTPC $f faatf WltpiT fOTT ’ptft 3iT»rtr f fa i # w w ?r m srrsrf*] ?ft *pJ SKTW Hpjwn'ir ^ vafpr «rr i v & ft wt i #rtr iffor irrofk w tt ^t ^tt 5t m fosr Sm: «rrf tftar SHHI S. A. SHAMIM: You have SHRI S. A. SHAMIM: No chance. almost done it. SHRI SEZHIYAN: I have nothing- 17 hrs. personal against the Prime Minister, SHRI SEZHIYAN: Therefore my against the leader of you? party. *upeal is this* I t you are meaning Your Members have held raSktes; thay IT7 Approval of ASADHA 30, 1807 (SAKA) Approval of 178 Proclamation. Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res,) have given unequivocal and unstint when it is abused. In other words, ing support. That is good thing. I Swaraj is to be attained by educat do not say what the majority party ing the masses to a sense of their should do for its leader. But it is not capacity to regulate and control the personalities that count. I am on authority.’* the principle, the tradition the con* We all fought for that Swaraj. We vention and the democratic practice all suffered. My suffering is very in this country. very small. But hundreds of persons who went to jail never came out. I have got respect for everyone of Hundreds of youth who were sent to you. 1 know you also want to usher Andamans never came back. In those m a welfare State in this country. days, Andamans were considered to When I say so, 1 should also say that be a graveyard. Many patriots who I have a little more respect, a little fought for the freedom of the coun more love for this country, tor demo, try never came to India back and craey and lor the people of this coun never saw the freedom of the country. try. I may be wrong; 1 wish I were Many of us have been fortunate wrong, m fact 1 want to oe proved enough to see the independence of the wrong on this occasion and if my ap country and the freedom of the peo prehensions about the non-function ple. ing of democracy proved wrong, I will be the happiest man on earth. But 1 But remember the day when the am afraid that is not the way things most precious life that human history are going, that is not the way trends would have seen and the man who ore developing. The parliamentary gave us the very thought of freedom democracy for which reasons on both in this country; was himself shot by sides had been striving cannot be a fanatic. Even at the gravest hour, safeguarded. Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru did not clamp down the freedom of speech. Even the man who fanatically said We had been proud that we were that he killed the Mahatma in a fien the biggest democracy in the world. dish way, was also given a fair trial When the freedom struggle was going on m our student days in the colleges Therefore, the same rule of law, in and schools, we also fought on the the name of the father of the nation, in the name of the Swarajya for side of Mahatma Gandhi; the scars which he fought and suffered should left by the lathis wielded by the police of ‘the British days are still there. be applied in all the cases. 1 appeal Therefore at least account the sincer to one and all that if you feel that ity. if not of the post independent you are right please carry on. I wish era, at least of the pre-independent I were wrong. Even if there is some era. Some of us felt the same urge, faltering suspicion such as I have, the same concern for the people of some apprehensions such as I have, this country, for the freedom of this when some of your own colleagues country. We still want this to be a have been arrested, go and ask them free country, a democratic country. why they have been arrested, why In those days, as a young college they have been put in jail and what student, I used to take notes. One of crime they have done more than the the old notes taken down by me gives smugglers. Many of the smugglers a quotation from Mahatma Gandhi. are still at large. Many of them# are It says: still indulging in anti-social activities, but they are still at large. Law has not taken care of them. But friends, "Real swaraj will come not by I would beg of you again, again and the acquisition of authority by a again, to remember that once freedom few but by the acquisition o f the of ah individual is taken away today, capacity by all to resist authority the day in not far o ff when the ftw* .179 Appx&ealjtf Proclam*.. JULY 21, 107$ Approval o} ProcUma- i $0 tion of fimergwu® SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOS. My friends opposite talked about WAMI (GAUHATI): Mr. Chairman, the right of speech. But we know .the learned Member who preceded me there have been situations where per spoke a lot about the freedom of sons were feeling helpless and could speech aftd though his entire speech not express their views freely because was on a hypothetical plane without of various anti-social and pressure reference to the reality, his ultimate groups. Only a few days ago, in my conclusion seems to be that by clam State there was an agitation in which ping the present Emergency* freedom students were prevented from appear of speech and the freedoms guaran ing in examinations and the teachers teed by the Constitution have been boycotted the examinations. We met taken away and that a situation ol the parents and they told privately, unreality has been created in this “We want our children to appear in ^country and the Parliamentary sys the examinations, because we cannot tem has lost all its relevance. Sir, afford the burden of one year’s addi this argument presupposes that before tional expense on their education. We the Emergency was clampej, the want them to prosper in their lives ” situation was such that everyone When we asked them. “Whv don’t • could express his views freely, nor you express it in public?” , they said. malcy was the order of the day and “ We ore afraid that the moTrent we that everyone was enjovlng the rights do so, we will be the target of attack and freedom guaranteed bv the Cons from certain quarters.” What is mo^t titution. If the situation would have important—so-called freedom nf speech been such, I would have been the first guaranteed under article ID or such person to say that clamping down the freedom for the common man who ■emergency was not just and proper. cannot afford to go to a court of law. But let us see the reality as it existed to be in a position to express himi-cli' before the emergency. Undoubtedly freely whatever he thinks just and the right of freedom of speech and proper? Not to speak of ordinary other fundamental rights are impor persons, even legislatures were pre tant, but what was the situation exis vented from expressing their view*? ting in the country? What percentage outside the legislatures according to of people were enjoying the rights? their own conscience and counsel. We The common man, the vulnerable know what happened in Bihar and sections of the society did not have Gujarat. the means to enjoy these rights nor could they approach a court if their 1743 hrs. rights were violated. We in the legal profession know how so long these % [Shri Bhagwat Jha Azad in the Chair] rights have been used by a section to frustrate the rights of the common May I ask whether the situation man. The common man wants that prevalent in the country before the the fundamental rights should not be emergency was such where a person the end in itself but should be a could really and effectively exercise meatt&s for the creation of a healthy his valuable rights according to his society in which he can live in an at own choice? My opposition friends mosphere of security, he can have the aye talking go much about their valua essential commodities at reasonable ble rights. Did they help the Gov prices; he can educate his children, ernment in creating an atmosphere he can be free from red tapism and where essential commodities were he can exercise his democratic right available at reasonable prices? Shri IShri Dinette Chand Goswamij He further s*y& that he was n<> duals were completely frustrated. I confidence in democracy. He says: know cases alter cases when you wanted to punish a delinquent official, “A revolution will not come either there was agitation and such a situa through elections or from Parlia tion had been created that the ad ment or Assembly, but a revolution^ ministration could not do anything peaceful or bloody, will always be and he felt helpless, I know of a case of the people and by the people.” where a certain delinquent official was No be removed from job and even orders were passed, there were agita Therefore, what he wanted was, not tions and ultimately the orders had to a change of government by parlia be withdrawn. 1 know of a case mentary means, but a change of gov where a passenger was assaulted by ernment by bloody revolution, by in one porter but when action was taken citing the Army and by inciting the against this porter such a situation police. 1 can understand it very weU was created that ultimately the order if somebody says that he has no con had to be withdrawn. Now obviously, fidence whatsoever in the parliamen I want the rights and interests of the tary democracy and that he wanted porters to be protected; 1 wanted at a change of the government, a change the same time that my rights as a of the political climate in the country. passenger should also be protected; I can understand him. But having a and there should be a harmonious seat in the Opposition, when you pro balance between the two. Unfortun claim in the name of parliamentary ately, an atmosphere was sought to be democracy but at the same time sup created by a design on the part of port a person who says that he has certain forces, where law and order, no confidence in parliamentary demo discipline became a word of the past. cracy and, that he wanted a change X do not want to associate every one in the political climate of the country of the Opposition in that: but it was through revolution, I cannot under part of a deliberate design; because stand this. Mr. Jagannathrao Joshi of their debacle in 1971. they know spoke about RSS and the sudden well that if they were to come back change of Jayaprakash Narayan. In to power—and it is quite natural for 19BB, it is Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan any political personality to try to who made the following observations come back to power—they can do it regarding RSS: only in two ways. Number one. by destroying—or by creating a slur on— “When, following Gandhiji’s the image of the Prime Minister who murder the Sangh was under a has a mesmeric appeal on the people; shadow, there were many protes and secondly by really creating a tations made about its being en sense of lack of confidence in the tirely a cultural organisation. But minds of people and instability in the apparently embodened by the timi society; and that is why people who dity of the secular forces, .it' has proclaimed in the name of democracy thrown its veil away and has em er just created a situation where demo, ged as the real power behind, and cracy cannot survive. Mr. Chairman, controller of, the Bharatiya Jana You have yourself Quoted Jayapra- Sangh. The secular protestations kash Narayan. I want also to quate of the Jana Sangha will never be a few words for purposes of record. taken seriously unless it cuts the Jayaprakash Narayan says* bonds that tie it so firmly to the RSS machine. Nor can the RSS be “A violent people’s revolution can treated as a cultural organization be successful orfty if the Army and long as it remain* the mentor the lattice rebel; as happened during and effective manipulator of a poli the ifassian Revolution." tical party.” 185 Approval of ASADHA 30, 199? (SAKA) Approval of 186 Proclamation of Emergency (Res.)Proclamation of Emergency (Res,) 1 do ttot know what change took SHRI P. M. MEHTA (Bhavnagar): place either it* the RSS or in Jaya- Mr. Chairman, first of all 1 want to prakash Narayan, in between 1968 make it absolutely clear, in fact 1 and 1975, that the happy union has would like to throw a challenge on be taken place to-day. In fact, I am half of my party that we have done happy to-day that my learned friend npthing which may threaten the quoted Mr. Hegde and Mr. Subba peace, tranquillity and the integrity Rao. The quotation of Hegde only of this country. ^confirms to-day that the decision of the Government to1' supersede Hegde was just and proper. It was Mr. I oppose the motion which seeks Hegde, while he was a judge, was a approval for the proclamation of politician and was not a judge. There- emergency. In fact, the situation was lore, Sir, I feel that if we analyze very normal in the country, absolute the situation of this country as it ly normal. In Gujarat we had the existed before the Emergency, the elections in which all parties con proclamation of emergency was ne tested. The parties were free to ex cessary; and that is why we have press their views and they placed found a new enthusiasm in the minds their manifesto before the people of the people, a new change from a and asked them to give their verdict. sense of defeatism ana helpless Before the elections we thought that ness to a climate of new enthusiasm. like-minded parties, those parties I am conscious, as Mr. Indrajit Gupta which believe in democracy, should has said, that it has given us also come to some arrangement to go to immense responsibilities. I am in the people with a common pro entire agreement when he said that gramme. We evolved a common pro if w p fail this time, we will be fail gramme and placed it before the peo ing history; and history will never ple. The people gave their verdict, forgive us. T am entirely in' agree which went against the ruling party. ment with him that to-day these Thereafter, those in power at the forces, the reactionary forces, aided Centre tried to see that a government and abetted by the internal and ex could not be formed by the Janata ternal forces, will still try to create Morcha. Yet, that Government was a situation in order to frustrate what successfully formed. ever we have really pledged to do. That is why, when we listen to cer tain foreign—-BBC or foreign—corres Now, what are the real reasons for pondents, we see various kinds of the proclamation of emergency. The newa. Therefore, we should be cons real reason is only fear. On the 12th cious of our responsibilities. My only of June the election results came and appeal to the members of the Oppo the verdict went against the ruling sition who really believe in construc party On the same day, the Allaha tive programmes, who reallv believe bad High Court gave a judgment, In 'building a prosperous India with which was against the hon. Prime a fully and properly democratic Minister. set-uo, will be that whatever may *be the rase in the rmst, please join hands with us, please cooperate with SHRI JAGNNATHRAO JOSHI: It us in the <*eonomie oroisrrammes *md was a very bad day. other constructive programmes that w** have taken; and frustrate the efforts of reactionary forces, go that SHRI P. M. MEHTA: It Is not the democraev, gwjulwrism and ?ri the opposition that gave that judgment, Icrftv ideals about which we ♦&!*, are it was the independent judiciary of made n walfty and ’w*» can fulfil the this coumtrjr which gave that judg aspirations of the people. ment. Thereafter, the leaders of the :: y; - V: . tipn o f . 'i\fv.Vv v.:.:.;'-;‘ .- s ':;!f'-' ■■ ■■ ,''QaiM&|iz^hai 'Oka,;' It Jpfibirliijg. :■ ■; . bers -..of ’’f‘ilie■ ' ' /iWMfty ;^h p;':l>feiid : j :. / ;. arid: ■ actually the ',-:; < idea;. ifeas..'• ■: taking ' out Shri. Ganshyambhai (tea who war. - j^ape. Further. the denial of ab- . aent from the Centre for good rule. - ; the vacation judge-' of He was not elected,, during';?|fev;;ifW the Supreme Court did create a fear elections in Gujarat. He wasa M inis* complex and that resulted in the pro ter here at that time. clamation of the emergency. It is : said that a deep-rooted conspiracy SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR (Patiala): was going on between the leaders who What about Chimanbhai Patel? were put behind/ the bars, What waa the conspiracy? They were doing all SHltl P. M. MEHTA: He waa your the things publicly and openly, and party men. the press was pubpshing the views ex pressed by the leaders freely because at that time there was no censorship. I agree with Babuji in one respect, aRTT | 1 that the situation has not been creat ed overnight You, will recall that I?*,. : w ii the people of India gave a mandate to the ruling party on their pro s?fr I * gramme in the 1971 election in res pect of Parliament and to the State No agreement. It has been made clear Assemblies in the 1972 elections. more than once. This happened in Thereafter what happened? The rate Gujarat. What is the position in of growth gradu ally declined. If we Madhya Pradesh? Bitter in-fighting wanted to sustain our economy, it was and quarrelling are going on there to absolutely necessary to maintain the day also. What happened in Bihar? rate of growth at 5.75 per cent in Ultimately Shri Ghafoor had to go. industry and agriculture. But due to And what happened in U.P.? A team the misrule and mismanagement of of legislators, Members of the Assemb the ruling party and because of the ly, came here and in the Central Hall fighting and quarelling in the ruling addressed the press and they narrated party, production gradually fell in the avagunas of Bahuguna. And the both agriculture and industry and the demand was to remove Bahuguna. It rate 0?' growth gradually came down is these eternal internal quarrels and to practically zero How can you ex political instability in all the States pect the economic" progress of the that shook the faith of the people. nation when the rate of growth comes The credibility gap was getting larger to zero? and larger and was increasing day by day. That credibility gap waa not Discontent and unrest were rising. created by the Opposition. Is it not the duty of the Opposition to higlight the grievances of the peo You may remember that' when we ple. to highlight their unrest and to came to this House in 1971we were cultivate public opinion against the speaking from these Benches oppos ruling party which was not govern* ing ■ some Bills or participatingin . .■ ing properly, which was misruling? '. some"' debates and; m aW gv^^ What has the Opposition done during The Press people were not publishing all these years? They have highlight our ■Bs&e&$mr ;They .. ed many problems, theq have made .' our' -OTlar■■ ; ■ ■ : good ^ggestiofcs,' but the composition '"the.'- public--' o p ln fo n ,^ ■'' the Press to publish the contents of . ' ■ ■ ‘' could m i function ■■■ . : the; speeches: ;v;-proper!#'and^v;.' -ai*Fr®* 189 / of ASADHA 80, 1897 (SAKA) Approval Qf Procifttnation of Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) priately so that the voice of the peo emergency. Everything was normal ple should be heard. It was the When the people went home on the reflection of the pressure of the pub 25th evening or late night, after lic opinion outside, because we were finishing their normal work, they had* the same people who were speaking nothing in their mind. But on the in 1671 after the elections. The Press morning of 26th, they heard that was not giving proper place to the there was an emergency in the coun Opposition, but, ultimately, the pub try. lic opinion was roused and the Press was compelled to publish the speaches SHRI JA'GANNATHHAO JOSHli of the Opposition properly and Even the Ministers also. appropriately. SHRI P. M. MEHTA: Mr. Mbrarji What is the position o f the Consti undertook fast on three matters: tution today? The Government is Gujarat elections removal of the state acting in accordance with the consti of emergency and improper or misuse tutional provisions. But it has result or abuse of MISA. As for as Gujarat ed in what? The Constitution of elections were concerned, he was India has become inoperative for the successful in making the Government citizens of India. It is only operative agree to hold elections. He was also for the Government. You have taken assured that there would be no Im such measures which have resulted in proper or misuse or abuse of MISA inoperation of this Constitution tor especially asfainst the political thf* citizes of this country. Mr. H. V. workers. Thereafter, immediately, Kamath apprehended this Constitu the Members of the Trinura Assembly tion. I would like to quote from his were arrested under MISA. So, it was ^popoh on paste 108 of the Constituent a breach of faith and a violation of Assembly Debates Official Report the assurance given on behalf of the Volume No. IX, 1949. At that time, Government. Now, Mr. Morarji th<» ores^nt Article 352 was 275 of the Desai himself and other M.P.s bave Draft Constitution. Mr. Kamath, been arrested under MISA. Every while participating in the debate, said day. we are finding new Ordinances as follows. ultimately deoriving the people’s right to go to the court. “ We are making a Constitution which will be promulgated in the My hon. friend ,Shri Sezhiyan, last year of the first half of this rightly pointed out that if J. P. activi century, and we will enter upon ties were subversive and anti-nation our life as a Republic in the second al, then certainly we have every right half of this century, a period to m3' to bring him to book. He should be mind pregnant with possibilities, produced before the court and he pregnant with dangers, but preg should be given an opportunity either nant also with great hope and good faith. Sir, let us beware of the to prove that he is not guilty or dangers and pitfalls in our path. otherwise. But in the Republic of Let us see to it that the Constitu India, we have snatched away the tion that we are framing today* Is rights of the people, not only of the honoured, is observed and not sub leaders but of the people. We have verted, not merely by agitators, snatched away the right of every citi rebels and revolutionaries but also zen to go to the court by those in office or in power/* What is happening today? I have Now, ft has come true. heard here the hon. Members saying that the people feel some relief You* Therefore, Sir, actually, there is no go and see the feelings of the people. justification1 for the proclamation «£ Corruption is increasing, The people' wt* Approval of Praclama* JULY 4u, iwv Approval m rroctomo- 192 tio* of Emergency (Res.) <*°* 0/ Emergency (Res.) [Shri P. M. Mehta] I would like to know from my friends how many of them really con .are so much airud that they cttifiot demned it when, not once but again >even ask a question from the police and again, even a great leader like man. This situation has been created. Jay Prakash Narayan called on the 1 want to submit that by these mea army and the police not to obey the sures, it will not be possible to do orders which they considered as il what you want to do. It is just not legal. Is this done in any democracy possible in such a vast land. There* in the world? lore, this Proclamation of Emergency is unwarranted and I oppose the Therefore, I am really sorry to motion seeking its approval by the hear them. If they were sincere and House. if Mr. Era Sezhiyan was really feel ing that there was some danger to democracy in this countrv, let him SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): search his heart and ask himself whe Mr. Chairman, Sir, I have heard with ther he raised any objection when Mr. great attention the speeches made Jayprakash Narain___ by my learned predecessors, particu larly on the opposite side, the spee SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI (Dhara- ches made by Shri Era Sesshiyan, Shri puram): We did; we personally told P. M. Mehta, Shri Jagannathrao Jo- Jayaprakash Narain. shi and others. I believe* thev were speaking from their heart. I have no SHRI VASANT SATHE* How do reason to doubt their bova fide s. As we know what vou told him person hon. Members of this House, they are ally? (Interruptions). I ccnredc completely entitled to their views you told Jayaprakash Narain person with which I may not agree. I will ally, but how do wc know? presently say why I differ with them. See how things were developing I What struck me most was that want you to. as you said, introspect while they were lamenting that in a little. Let us search our hearts. dividual freedom is being curtailed Were we not ail responsible? If we during this Emergency and they were were also guilty on our side to a cer giving examples of a few arrests that tain extent, I wil] concede that we have been made, it is agreed, I be were also wrong. But let us think lieve, that among a large number of together. Were we not making a moc arrests that have taken place, the kery of the Parliamentary system in political arrests are very few. The the House when, on non-issues, we arrests under economic offences are were wasting so much time? Were the major arrests. But while lament we discussing economic issues? Were ing that individual freedom is being we not dragging the Parliament to curtailed, let us introspect a little wards irrelevance day by day? What and see the background as to why is it that we were trying to do? we came to this state of affairs. I did not hear anyone of our friends con demn it when, in the name of demo That is why, I want to know from cracy itself, apart from people being my friends, what did we do when de gheraod, elected representatives were mocracy was being eroded every dav dragged out of the House, shaved, by these acts inside and outside? btecketfed in the face, put on an What was the dhama; what was 'the ass a&d made to parade On the streets rushing on the dais and snatching the of the town. There was no condemna- mike from the Speaker? Was it all “tfcte. Was that a proof of freedom respect for Parliamentary democra being assured for the people? cy? K Approval of ASADHA 30, 18&7 (SAKA) Approval of 194 Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) 1 w ould ask my friend Mohan rage of stones thrown by young m en. Dharia— I know he disagreed with It would have been even fatal. I would that view— in legard to this demand like t o k n o w this f r o m y o u . Did y o u for dissolution of the Assembly, avow giving a sort of lip sym pathy to whether it was not a fact that Jaya them‘> Did you really stop that? prakash Narain insisted that the only D i d you condemn that? Were they ground on which a dialogue can be not your followers ? W ho were they ? had w ith the Governm ent was if the Nobody claims that they were their dissolution dem and was conceded. He followers. Yet, they were shouting : insisted on that. O n tw o points, about ‘M oraji Bhai zindab i>H Janata Mor- the electoral reform s and others, there e h a zindabad; Jay ay.... Kish N aray«n was agreem ent and people were w il zindabad' and they were throwing ling to s,t for ds*cushions but he m ade stones. W as that dem ocracy ? W hat is it a point that unless dissolution is the use if you could not stop your agreed to there w ill be no dialogue followers ? A re you trying to suggest with the Governm ent. Jayaprakash that those people w ere not w illing to Nart:n said it ana r*u ail ^pported lislcn to you ? And then you say that him . W as that the respect for de the people were with you and they m ocracy? You ?ny that elected repre elected you xo power in Gujarat. sentatives mu«-t be respected JTft. Therefore, do not apply double stand norm al procev- of dem ocracy u that. ards. W hen you talk of dem ocracy, let idtu five year?, ,ou get a chance; \eu i! also .nlroM.o t ann see what defeat l'' yin did in Guiarat they w ere leading this country to. M y That vvav the right thing to do I friend has already spoken about it. thought that, after the Gui^rat ex- You wanted to paralyse the whole penm ent. you wou’d be encouraged thing. This wa*. precisely what was to learn a lessor—-com, together and done in Chile. Do not forget the ex form one party and try to remove perience of Chile : how the com m uni 1V ' (’onrre^i «.• ftot eight m onths w hen cations were fir*! paralysed and then we would be goinf to the polls Rut the arm ed forces w ere m ade to revolt. you had no patier.ee You were uV n- M r. Allende, the elected President, ning to take thP m atter to tlv streets. was shot. You wanted India also to W hat was the plan. Even in Gujarat go tow ards the sam e state of affairs. what happened? M y hon friend, M r. It has been accepted now that inter Prasannabhai Mehta, was talking of national forces have been interested Gujarat. You went on a fast for in de-stabilisation of countries like dissolution Aftc^ that you went on Chile. No wonder, they would be a fast for electior— and election at h « m p \ it tins cjp stabilisation takes the worst possible time Yet to place in India. W hether you are a save the life of a great leadei, Shri partv to it w illingly or not, you are MorarM Desai it was conceded. W hat falling into that trap. W ere you not did you do in Gujarat 7 You asked leading the country, m ore or less, to for elections in Guiarnt. Tt was con a paralysis— trying to paralyse the ceded and we went fo* election:; i n whole thing ? I would like to know Gu'arat I would like to know this from you. W hen so m uch was on thin from M r Prasanmbhai Mehta. your side, when you thought that it Was there a single meeling of was easy after the Gujarat experi the Janata Front which was disturbed m ent to go the polls, then what was ted by Congressmen ? W as there a the necessity to ask the people to take single m eeting of the Janata Front in the m atter to the streets ? M y friend, which young Congressmen threw \Jr Prasannabhai M ehta, was asking: stones ? But not a single m eeting of has the Opposition no right to agitate the Congress was allowed to be con peacefully; has the Opposition no ducted peacefully I have been, per right to help the people express their sonally a victim of that attack— a bar grievances in non-violent way. T h e y Approval of Proclama- JULY 21, 1975 Approval of Proclama- 196 tion of Emergency (Res*) tion of Emergency (Res,) [Shri Vasant.Sathe j SHRI VASANT SATHE: I know that, I am not talking w hen he came have. There is no doubt it. But, have to power. You also thought that like the Opposition the right to ask the Hitter, you w ill also come to power people to gherao the Ministers and by the same methods. You started their bungalows? H ave they also the teaching people, youngm en, putting in right to ask the people to see that the their m inds stories of the glory of TV and radio do not funct on under Shivaji and Rana Partap in a twisted any circum stances ? W as that also a manner, brain-washing and then right under rcmorracy ? W a s spreading and preaching hatred that also a right to speak from the cu;uns>t M uslim s *r>d Christian.*, W as ram parts of Ram Lila M aidan asking it not what you did in R3S? That is the policem en not to obey ihe orders? why, when the words were used in W as that also dem ocratic to declare the Kapur Commission as such, it that on 29th you were going to start was said that you as R SS as such m ay a country-w ide Salyagrah, Gheraoing not be guilty of killing G andhiji, but Ministers, M .L.A.s, M .Ps, the Prim e it is the m entality, it is the attitude Minister with volunteers and then that you preached which created a forcing them to resort to firing ? You man like Godse. Do you deny this7 know what happened in Gujarat This is preci«el\ what w 11 happen They let loose an era of terror, a Vou and the men like Anand M argis reign of terror, hurnt bu.-'es, stopped under the garb of religion preach railw ay trains, burnt port offices hatred, youngm en become fanaticb and tured police stations etc. W as that the; think and do dangerous things And idea to do that in the country? Is that that is what you are leading to and where you wanted to take the coun that was the plan. W hen tht plan try and did you expect that any G ov uas exposed of vou wanting 1o a ^ a s ernment worth the name should sinate certain VIPs, should we have quietly wr>lch you leading the waited for that dav? That U w h y . i t country to that state of all airs help was high tim e and right tim e for the lessly and to surrender t , you an 1 say. Prim e M inister, after having given right, Sir, please do not burn, and all the latitude to the opoojition for all take the Governm ent0 I«? that w hat *0 m any days to take thi- s*^p and you expected7 r,ro m u I(?atrt th«* cm e-'goncv SHRI S. A. SH AM IM : That is what you did till 12th June. If you want th3t we should go back SHRI V AS AN T SATHE* We were to the system of democracy .. giving you the longest rope. M r. Jagannathrao Joshi, you were 1 8 h r s . talking about RSS I and you know too w ell about this organization. R SS is the organization which was born S H R I P K. DEO: You would not in Nagpur in 1925 I ask you straight g o b a c k . question. W as H itler not the ideal of RSS? Did yoy rot w m l to build RSS on the lines and example of Hitler SHRI VASANT SATHE: Demo and storm troopers? This is how the cracy as yourse'f have been saying boys were asked to drill (inter n c p i s n certain im provem ent so that r u p t i o n s ) - w e m ake it more relevant. W e have been saying that instead of Parlia AN HON. MFMBER: Hitler did m ent just sitting for days together not convs in power in 1925 when the and everyone of us talking for a few R SS watt horn. minutes, let us have a committee *97 Approval of Proclama- ASADHA 30, 1897 (SAKA) Arrest of Member 198 Uon of Emergency (Res.) s y s tem or any other system in which 8.02 hrs. we study matter* m depth and help and influence the governm ent. This ARREST OF MEMBER i 3 the time when we can think of bringing in certain useful reform s to M R. CH AIR M AN . I have to inform m aKe our parliam entary system m ore the House that the speaker has re relevant and m ore effecn/e and pro ceived the following com m unication perly functional. d a t e d U . e .jaly, 1975, from the Sub-Inspector, M adhya Pradesh Po lice, D istrict Panna:— Therefore, I w ould plead w ith you. “A s per D istrict M agistrate, Panna Don’t look at it only from a biased (M adhya Pradesh) order No 1/CST angle. Don’t look at this em ergency 653/75, dated 18th July, 1975 Shri as if it is an onslaught on dem ocracy. Narendra Singh, M em ber of Parlia Nobody wants to have any onslaught m ent, arrested under M IS A on 20th Ju ly, 1975.” or any erosion of parliam entary de m ocracy in this country. This was a Now the House stands adjourned measure which to as icqujred to be till 11 a.m . tom orrow . taken to .,top the erosion. I he ref ore, if 18.03 hrs. you co-operate and if we all introspect The Lok Sttbha then ad and work together. 1 am sure we w ili journed till Eleven of the ha\t> a healths democracy and that Clock on Tuesday, July 22, loo. a healths parl’am entary demo 1975/Asadha 31, 1897 ( $aka). ' r a c y GMGIPND—L—IH3 LS—13-8-75- 978ire # ^rar c tt t ? f*n^ 5RTsrfr |, ftn^ nfrf^RT irTf tftr irsfi araT ?w «wr t urn fa^ ?T^ % *TR I ft^fRTPTsFt n?a* % Pwnsr w t % s r m « T *R ft ^ T ^ tT O r snrer % f t w sr?ifi«r ftmr i asfc x r irftr tftt| spft «ftr aptter TOft ?fW ^ «rfi =nff arnf, ■’.ff i 0PL- - . ...iR_ _ ■- ..^h.. T^t far 1TW6T *t PW?t ^ T T wm flntw v t m «ii *rs t c itv p ^ v wttt, M | f 9 w r t o r «| |wr Pf vw5t ?rt ?ro % *W[W ^rt fa w 55rrfa?r p$ 2 i w - 165 Approval of ASADHA SO, 1897 (SAKA) Approval of 1 6 6 Proclamation of Emergency (Res.) Proclamation of Emergency (Res.)