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the official newsletter of the carolwood society one of walt's favorite rides larry boone - mine train manager

D ateline 1956 - Walt adds the Rainbow Caverns Mine Train to Frontierland. Guests loaded onto the dark green ore cars in the little mining in this issue town of Rainbow Ridge for a trip through the Rainbow Desert and into the spectacular Rainbow Caverns. platform 1 One of Walt’s Favorite Dateline survive 1960 – Walt updates the mine Rides ride by adding scenes from the True Life Adventure u series. Riders would now travel through Beaver Valley, around Cascade Peak with its many platform 2 waterfalls, across a rickety trestle into Bear Welcome Aboard Country and then to the Living Desert. This included the saguaro cactus forest, bubbling mud Honoring Our Barn pots, geysers, Balancing Rock Canyon and lots Volunteers for 2016 of animatronic animals all before heading into the u mountain to view the mystifying Rainbow Caverns. Fortunately, the folks at the Disney Archives The train was now painted bright yellow and was spotted this last vestige of the mine train ride platform 3 renamed the Mine Train through Nature’s and took it into their custody. The Carolwood In and Around the Barn Wonderland. Foundation became aware of this and, after some negotiations, has made an agreement with the u Dateline Disneyland 1977 – The old mine train has Archives to acquire these 3 pieces platform 4 made its last run and is being removed to make on loan. The intent is to repair and preserve the Beaming With Inspiration room for another attraction. Its companion rides: 3 units and place them on display near the Walt Disney Barn in Griffith Park, , CA. u the stage coach, Conestoga wagons and the Pack Mules, had already been gone for years. Final plans for the display are pending. We are all platform 5 excited about the project and happy that one of My Visit To Walt’s Barn Dateline Disneyland 1978 – Big Thunder Mountain Walt’s favorite rides is going to not only survive, Last September Railroad opens on the site of the old mine train but entertain and enlighten the public for years attraction. But what happened to the old mine to come. u trains? The Carolwood Foundation is now ready to platform 6 announce our fund raising kickoff. Donations are The Mail Car There had been 4 separate trains each including needed so we can start the restoration project. a locomotive, a tender (where the engineer sat) This will be an extensive reworking of the Board of Governors and 7 ore cars. After the attraction closed they locomotive and both ore cars. We will also need u all seemed to disappear, until one day in 1985, help with the display area that will be installed when there was a train wreck on the banks of adjacent to Walt’s Barn. Monetary contributions platform 7 the Rivers of America near Cascade Peak. An are our primary need but donations of materials View From the cupola apparent rock slide damaged the track and a little will also be most helpful. Since we are a California mine train crashed. This scene consisted of a u 501 (c) (3) non-profit organization, your donations locomotive and 2 ore cars from the old mine train will be tax-deductible. Please consider being a platform 8 ride. They were no longer the bright yellow vehicles part of this great project. Special announcements that had been part of the ride but now looked old will be sent out soon to let you know how to do this. the world’s greatest and faded. Some of the marmots from the Natures hobby on tour Wonderland area had taken up residence in the A last note about this Mine Train. If anyone has ore cars and would pop up and whistle randomly any artifacts that were a part of this extinct Carolwood to add to the fun. The train sat out in the elements attraction, please consider loaning them to us Event Calendar for many years and was mow in serious disrepair. to place on display. They could be used for our By 2010 they were pulled from their display area promotions, fund raising programs or as an actual and placed backstage. part of the final display along-side the train.

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happy rails welcome aboard u honoring our barn T he Carolwood Pacific Historical Society is enriched by its many wonderful members. volunteers for 2016 New and Renewing Members since December, 2016 are: by the Phantom Historian Michael Chapin, Halifax, MA Cara and Frank Perry, Islip, NY Joe Mastrangelo, Norristown, PA Barbara and John Van Deusen, Torrance, CA Thomas Allen, Eustis, FL 32736 Gregory Hall, Celebration, FL Ken and Debra Tillou, Naperville, IL Ron LaPedis, San Bruno, CA Every year the Carolwood Foundation The James Schuck Family, McCordsville, IN gives recognition to our volunteers at our Robin Lapin, Pittsburg, CA Sheila Kepler, Walnut, CA annual Volunteer Holiday Party. The first Terry Fairchild, Venice, FL category is for participation at the Barn Michael Rashis, Maitland, FL and at other Foundation events. Janelle Pearson, Hampton, GA James Rohrbach, San Mateo, CA C R Scott, Fayetteville, GA These are in the form of “Hours of Service” pins Ana A. Arante, Los Banos, CA and are awarded for total hours of service (not just Ronald Johnston, Fullerton, CA for 2016). Catherine Wartelle, San Leandro, CA Peter Barilla, Sierra Madre, CA Demy Riley, Fallbrook, CA Here is the breakdown as presented by Carolwood Kevin Williams, Old Hickroy, TN Foundation VP Larry Boone: Tinothy Codispoti, Rye, NY Grant Fetzer, Salt Lake City, UT Lynette Goad, Lynnwood, WA Anna and George Lee, Suisun City, CA swell work volunteers John Reynolds, Chatsworth, CA Lawrene Bova, Valencia, CA Dennis and Shauna Flores, Vacaville, CA Nels Kristian Nelsen III, Los Angeles, CA Leonard Pihlak, Glendora, CA Ashley Leaphart, Leesville, SC Roy Hollis, Phoenix, AZ Nels Kristian Nelsen III, Los Angeles, CA Thomas Neary, Clermont, FL David Simms, Red Lion, PA Hugh Rutherford, Manitoba, Canada F. Andrew Chaney, Seattle, WA Paul Hamra, Scottsdale, AZ Gary Naumann, Belleville, IN first category Brian Ballinger, Aurora, IL Jane and Kurt Windlebleck, Lititz, PA Roy Hollis, Phoenix, AZ Gary Verville, Woodstock, GA Richard and Shirley Powell, Riverside, CA Dave and Brenda Bayless, Auburn, CA hours of service James Klich, Franklin, MA Rick J. Boyce, Rochester Hills, MI Linda Holtorf, Marysville, WA David Byerly, Rosamond, CA 100 hours Dan Buonarota, Coral Springs, FL Josh Arakaki, Christian Valdez and Gil Valdez Kathryn Campanella, Ocean, NJ Jeff Hoelscher, Warrenton, MO Christopher and Sabrina Escalante, North Hollywood 500 hours Edwin Nungesser, Phoenix, AZ Carolyn Hoagland, Bill Reyes and Tom Urquidez James Cotterman, Orlando, FL Michael Forrester, Kennesaw, GA 750 hours James Garner, Glendale Heights, IL John Fennell Kevin McDowell, Placentia, CA Susan Speer, Oviedo, FL T. John Laser, Centerville, UT William Foster, Jr., Birmingham, AL Ray Fleischmann, Coral Springs, FL

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second category IN AND AROUND THE BARN julie thomas spirit award The Superintendent’s Report

L ots of maintenance happening recently with the water Scott Brooks drains around the Barn. The weather in March brought an unusual amount of rain and it all seemed like it was heading for the front door of the Barn. Fortunately, we were on site at the time and able to divert things down the path. It turns out that after more than 17 years of service with the pipes under The second category was established in 2014 and is the pathways that there was some blockage. What occurred called the Julie Thomas Spirit Award. This was so named next was incredible, to say the least. for the special lady who led the way with her sense of pride and enthusiasm in everything she did with the Members of LALSRM (Los Foundation and Walt’s Barn. Angeles Live Steam Railroad Museum) helped open up key It is awarded when there is someone who particularly areas of the drainage system stands out with this same vibrant spirit, energy and and found a root system motivation. Presented by Carolwood Foundation that had grown inside the Curator Nathan Eick, the 2016 recipient was Scott 12” diameter main pipe. The Brooks. Scott’s good nature, determination, devotion tangled mess was 35 feet and energetic style made this an easy decision for him long, about 10 inches in diameter and had an estimated to receive this recognition. weight of over 350 pounds. Congratulations Scott. It took four people several hours to push and pull and coerce this plant-like snake (or is that a snake-like plant) out of the tube. I guess this helps to explain the obstruction. It’s all good for now. We’ll continue to monitor the situation and improve third category the entire drainage system. Many thanks to the LALSRM crew for helping divert possible damage to the Barn and the surrounding landscape.

Visiting the Disney Barn is always a great experience. Becoming ward kimball service award a docent is even more fun. We will train you in the different areas of operation, you will learn a lot about a wide variety of Disney history, you’ll see the exhibits in a closer perspective than ever and you will meet some great people. It’s fun and Larry Boone rewarding and we love to see new faces helping out. Just contact us at [email protected] for more information about getting started. Each Barn Sunday (the third Sunday of each month) we try to have a special guest or program to The third category is a new one for 2016 called the complement our exhibits. All sorts of things will be happening Ward Kimball Service Award. Presented by Carolwood throughout the rest of 2017 so be sure to check our Facebook Foundation president Bill Barbe, the inaugural recipient page often at www.facebook.com/WaltDisneysBarn. of this was Larry Boone in recognition of his attendance of 110 consecutive Barn Sundays. Past guests have included Marty Sklar, Floyd Norman, Jack Lindquist, Margaret Kerry, Bob Gurr, George McGinnis, and Larry had been occasionally volunteering at the Barn many more. Come on by and see who shows up at the next since its initial move to Griffith Park in 1999. In 2008 Barn day. he began attending on a very regular basis and has not missed a day since. Guess we’ll have to see just how That’s all folks (whoops, wrong studio). long his string of days will go on. See ya, Larry Boone

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Beaming with Inspiration By Jim VanOstenbridge

While the combination of creative imagination and technical knowhow are key ingredients of Imagineering, so too is inspiration. Most every one of us has had an experience in our lives that leaves us with a sense of timeless awe. It’s that “thing” in our lives that never gets old and continues revealing something new to us (or within us) every day

As members of the Carolwood portfolio of attractions. During “Well, anyway, the styling of Society, we appreciate Walt some vacation time in Germany the Mark I Monorail was Disney’s origin of and sustained Walt and Lillian Disney were established in about 10 minutes interest in steam trains. Though driving through the German from my kitchen table on a others may perceive the Disney countryside near Cologne. As Saturday morning. So I made steam trains as rolling props they approached a nondescript a rough sketch to see if the in a theme park, they are so beam passing over the road dimensions would work, came much more for each of us. They they were following, an oddly in, and made a rendering of it, have back stories and histories. interesting vehicle glided a black pencil rendering, big We find resonance in these quickly and quietly above picture that illustrated the stories and the experiences of them. They had just stumbled whole idea. But not yet the people who brought them upon the test guideway for a right design. A rocket ship that at that time figuring out to life and keep them running straddle-beam monorail built would land on planets like a mechanically and structurally every day. They remind us of by a team of engineers led little kid’s sled with these sled how we’re really gonna do it. an ambitious time in American by Swedish scientist Alex L runners, and of course, they had But, in other words, the idea history, with frontiers to explore Wenner-Gren (ALWEG). a big fin sticking up out of the was just enough, had enough and new adventures beckoning top and I thought, ah, that’s it!” of a picture that I could show us toward discovery. Walt Disney assigned Joe to Walt. And in a very short Fowler, Roger Broggie, and “I could hide the slot by putting meeting, Walt took one look The origins of Disney Monorails Bob Gurr to work with ALWEG these fins at a raked angle at it, sort of tapped the picture also start with a healthy dose engineers and determined that underneath this pointed rocket and said, ‘Bobby, can you build of inspiration with the first the monorail trains and guide- body. We put a big wrap around that?’ And I said, ‘Yeah’ and the representation of a monorail ways should be constructed at windshield on it instead of using meeting was over. It was like included in Herb Ryman’s the Studio in Burbank to meet portholes like Dr. Zarkov’s 30 seconds worth. conceptual drawing of the schedule for the 1959 version of the Buck Rogers Disneyland in 1953. Tomorrowland expansion. Bob Rocket. I’d simply use the Walt looked around at every- Gurr recounts, “Walt also same windows I had used on body and the job was approved gave me a photograph the Viewliner in the previous for a go-ahead, and away he and some technical year. But instead of having the went.” John Hench would later information about the rocket nozzles in the back we’d complete the rendering of Bob ALWEG Monorail. So I simply make the back end like Gurr’s pencil drawing, creating immediately saw it as an the front but the fins would be the iconic, recognizable image extension of the Viewliner facing a little bit different.” we know to this day. train.”

As an automotive body designer, Bob was looking for a way to make the German design more appealing. “How in the world to I hide the beamway passing This suspended form of through the vehicle because monorail, originally patterned the German train looked like a after designs of a French loaf of bread with a slot in the company, Safege, never quite bottom just sittin’ up on a stick. found favor. Even so, by 1957, It was really a blunt, ugly- Disneyland had been open for looking thing. Not at all what a few years and Tomorrowland you have in Disneyland. I thought, was in need of a more compelling you know, Buck Rogers has the Continued in the next edition

platform 4 Jim VanOstenbridge Ed Hartnett u MEMBER SINCE 2016 MEMBER SINCE 2008

My Visit to Walt’s Barn Last September By Ed Hartnett

My wife Paula and I were finally able to visit Walt's Barn after three and one half years. I approached the Barn, took a deep breath and appreciated being there - I finally arrived! It seemed to me that it had been an eternity. What a beautiful sight!

Even though Walt has never been to this site I could feel his presence. I walked around the outside of the building and imagined trying to walk in Walt's footsteps and appreciate what could have been. As I was taking in the sight I also noticed the Retlaw Combine Car, but I will go into want to waste a minute or be After I finished touring and Paula and I went from there more detail on that later. late not knowing if and when I admiring the Car I moved over to The Live Steamers would be out this way again -- around back to see Ollie which is right next door to I do have to say that the staff it's been on my bucket list. Johnson's train depot that had Walt's Barn, and rode on their the day I visited (third Sunday I could not describe in any been saved and added to the trains. It was a lot of fun and in September) was awesome detail every exhibit but each property near the Barn. It was again the volunteers were -- first at the gate where I one was accompanied with a awesome and I was grateful very friendly and helpful. entered and also on the story or a photo. There was that it was able to be acquired property. They were all terrific. also a very nice tribute to by The Carolwood Society. If you ever get a chance to I wish I knew all their names Ward Kimball which I enjoyed see Walt's Barn, we would as they were so friendly and very much. I took many pictures, both strongly suggest that you warm. inside and outside the Barn do so. Not only will you feel I spent two to three hours just along with a small amount of Walt's presence, but there's I was also happy to see so in Walt's Barn checking out all video. After another hour a lot of fun involved, too. many people at the Barn that the displays, reading every- or two outside, my head And remember! The Barn is day. I spoke to one gentleman thing I could and admiring all and mind were spinning with the ONLY Disney attraction who worked as a Cast member the photographs, etc. Disney Information. I purchased in the world that is free along at Disneyland and who was a few things at the gift shop with free parking, also. volunteering. He was not from At that point I was ready to located on the property, also. the United States but was explore the outside of the There were some wonderful from the United Kingdom. He Barn and check out the Retlaw treasures to be had there. was awesome to talk to and Combine Car which had been fully understood the culture of totally refurbished. A video Then came the time when we Walt Disney's legacy and his was presented to show how had to leave. It was more than love of trains. the Car was brought onto the we expected and well worth property. It looked absolutely the trip across the country to I entered the Barn and it was beautiful after the restoration see and enjoy the experience. like being transported back in was completed. I took some We are left with memories to time. I was now surrounded by pictures in the front and in the last a lifetime. more Magic. The displays were rear of the Car, then spoke to full of memorabilia - many of another volunteer who was We met so many nice people which has never been seen also very informative and on the way and they made our before. I got to the entrance gave me lots of information day and opened up their arms at 11 a.m. on the dot as I didn't about the Combine Car. and invited us in to their world.

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Board of Governors Michael Broggie, Chairman 2017 Bill Barbe Tony Baxter Larry Boone Michael Campbell Dick Cook Miguel Fernandez The Mail Car David Flesh Bob Gurr Darrell Holmquist reaching the many corners of the world Fred Lack III John Lasseter Doug Marsh Jon Newbill Gary Oakland Michael, Kendra Reed Scott Rhodes I want to thank you again for gracing our open house event with your presentation. Our Cast Steve Waller Members are still commenting on how much they enjoyed your visit. I saw many folks hugging Bob Witter their books as they were wandering around after attending your presentation.

Best wishes to you and your lovely wife. In Memoriam Ward Kimball Kim Medlin, Secretary, Walt Disney Travel Company USA Diane Disney Miller William Norred Richard Thompson

Carolwood Foundation board of directors The "Train Ride" Bill Barbe, President Larry Boone, Vice President/ FLORIDA Superintendent Bill Reyes, Secretary Life is like a journey on a train... Larry Varblow, Treasurer/CFO with its stations... Nathan Eich, Curator with changes of routes... Jeff Ino and with accidents. Doug Marsh Joanna Miller We board this train when we are born and our parents are the ones who get our ticket. Debra Turner Society membership information We believe they will always travel on this train with us. is available by emailing Sharon at [email protected] or However at some station, our parents will get off the train, leaving us alone on this journey. going to the website at www.carolwood.com. As time goes by, other passengers will board the train, many of whom will be significant - our The Carolwood Society is siblings, friends, children, and even the love of our life. an independent membership group and is affiliated with Many will get off during the journey and leave a permanent vacuum in our lives. Carolwood Foundation, Inc. Society-related logos and Many will go so unnoticed that we won't even know when they vacated their seats and got off the fixtures are copyrighted train. The Carolwood Society. Other copyrighted materials are This train ride will be full of joy, sorrow, fantasy, expectations, hellos, good-byes, and farewells. the property of their respective owners. A good journey is helping, loving, having a good relationship with all co passengers... and making sure that we give our best to make their journey comfortable. Opinions expressed are those of the writers and not necessarily The mystery of this fabulous journey is: those of the Society, the we do not know at which station we ourselves are getting off. Carolwood Foundation or .

So, we must live in the best way - adjust, forget, forgive and offer the best of what we have. Sharon Broggie, Editor and Publisher It is important to do this because when the time comes for us to leave our seat... we should leave Paul Brown, Graphic Design behind beautiful memories for those who will continue to travel on the train of life. www.labanbrowndesign.co.uk

Thank you for being one of the important passengers on my train... don't know when my station Contributors will come... don't want to miss saying: "Thank you". Jo Bopp, Larry Boone, Michael Broggie, Dan Buonarota, Dan Buonarota, Coral Springs, FL. Ed Hartnett and Ed Hartnett

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Bob Gurr and selective memory W hen 12 years old, I first became aware of Bob Gurr as a friendly young fellow hunched over a drafting table in a small office next to his boss and my dad, Roger Broggie.

I liked cars and he was an Prior to Bob’s hiring, I had been room floor.” Meaning that the excellent artist/designer who enlisted by my dad to test drive sequence was never aired and could quickly draw about any the original prototype, which the film was discarded. Fast vehicle from memory. Being a was nothing more than a frame forward to a session at Tony frequent visitor to the Studio with four wheels, a rear engine, a Baxter’s home were a group Machine Shop, I watched as he seat and steering wheel. Today, was viewing an assortment quickly pencil drew three- we would call it a go-cart. They of footage of Disneyland in quarter views of futuristic, wanted to find the weaknesses development. Their purpose vintage and classic cars for my in the engineering of the car and was to select scenes that would amazing enjoyment. thought a 12-year-old kid would be incorporated into a DVD make the best “lab rat” to test of Disney Treasures featuring Another attraction in Bob’s the limits of the design. I took to the Park. Later, when the DVD workspace was that the the challenge with characteristic was released, Bob Gurr saw the legendary one-eighth scale Lilly enthusiasm by running the car clip of us and the Autopia car. Belle steam engine was stored over the roughest terrain I could He confirmed that the young under his drafting table! After find on the back lot of the studio Imagineer was him and said, “Do an unfortunate incident at the where countless Disney features you know who that kid is?” The Carolwood estate that resulted were filmed. Of course, there answer was, “We could not find in a young visitor being burned were failures. Welds separated, any record of a contract in legal, Realizing that such an by steam escaping from the steering links broke, bearings so he’s never been identified.” opportunity was extremely rare, derailed engine, Walt ordered my seized and engines overheated. Bob then informed them that I asked for, and received, an dad to remove the engine and Eventually, refinements made it was Roger Broggie’s son, additional clause in the release store it in the Machine Shop. At the car “kid proof.” Michael. that permitted me to use the that point, he closed down the clip as I wished for presentations Carolwood Pacific Railroad. When Bob’s red fiberglass of Disney history. Not bad for car body was mounted on the landing on the cutting room chassis, I now had a complete floor. vehicle that resembled a cross between a Ferrari and a Corvette At a gathering of Disneyana roadster. In April of 1955, folks, I showed the clip and needing some action footage explained that I was Bob of the car for a Disneyland Gurr’s test driver. Bob was in television episode about the the audience and offered this development of the theme park, correction: “You weren’t my a crew was assigned to film test driver, you were my test me at the studio driving on the dummy!” (Note to Bob: On page streets between the buildings 26 of your book, “Design: Just for on the lot. Fun,” you wrote, “...my assistant Not long after, I received a call test driver was then 12-year- In the opening scene, Bob Gurr from the legal department at old Michael Broggie, son of It was 1953 and Walt had already is showing me the side-mounted the studio inviting me to come Studio Machine Shop manager, refocused his attention on a brake lever and the gas pedal. for a meeting. At the meeting, Roger Broggie...”.) So much for much larger “train layout” being Soon, I’m on my way as the crew a person who was tasked with selective memory. planned for Anaheim, California. filmed at various locations. They obtaining clearances from Looking for a safe place to store shot in 35 millimeter color even individuals who appear in Disney To confirm this, and other facts, Walt’s engine, my dad chose though television at the time productions explained that the myths and lore regarding Disney the small room next to his office was broadcasting only in scales company required my signature Legend Imagineer Bob Gurr, located on the second floor of gray. There was no sound on a release giving them members are invited to attend above the floor of the shop. It recorded. unfettered use of my image and The Carolwood Society annual was around this time that Bob likeness “for all time throughout UnMeeting this fall at Walt Gurr joined the WED (for Walter Years later, I asked my dad the universe in perpetuity.” Disney World Resort. Elias Disney) team to design a about the filming and he By then, I had seen the clip body for the Disneyland Autopia unceremoniously informed me contained in the now publicly vehicles. that I “ended up on the cutting released DVD. Until next time, Happy Rails!

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greatest hobby on tour May 21 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. Special guests will be Nancy Rodriquez, author of Hidden Mickeys 2017 and Ken Pellman, author of Cleaning the Kingdom

June 4 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. June 11 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. June 18 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. July 2 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. July 9 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. July 16 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. August 6 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. August 20 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. September 17 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. September 28 to October 1 The Carolwood Society UnMeeting with special guest, Disney Legend, Bob Gurr. For more information please go to www.cphs-unmeeting.com October 15 t aken at train the World’s Greatest Hobby Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. on Tour in Phoenix, AZ in February, 2017. November 19 Sharon Broggie, Carolwood member Judeen Terrey Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. and Michael Broggie December 17 Walt Disney’s Barn open to the public 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. Photo by Judeen Terrey

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