E PL UR UM IB N U U S Congressional Record United States th of America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 110 CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION

Vol. 154 WASHINGTON, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2008 No. 143 House of Representatives The House met at 10 a.m. WELCOMING DR. DAVID O. DYKES and Robert R. Merhige, Jr. Federal Dr. David O. Dykes, Pastor, Green The SPEAKER. Without objection, Courthouse.’’. Acres Baptist Church, Tyler, Texas, of- the gentleman from Texas (Mr. f fered the following prayer: GOHMERT) is recognized for 1 minute. Our Father, as the Psalmist prayed, There was no objection. we proclaim that ‘‘the Lord is my ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Mr. GOHMERT. Thank you, Madam PRO TEMPORE strength and my shield; my heart Speaker. trusts in Him and I am helped.’’ Dr. David O. Dykes has been pastor of The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. PAS- Father, on this very day 7 years ago, Green Acres Baptist Church for about TOR). The Chair will entertain up to 15 we were not prepared for how our Na- 17 years while being a true leader, spir- further requests for 1-minute speeches tion and our lives would change within itual guide, and dear friend. on each side of the aisle. a single day. But since that day, we In Tyler, Texas, Green Acres has over have found that Your grace is enough. 14,000 members and is the most mis- f We desperately depend upon Your fu- sion-minded church anywhere. Recog- JERSEY CITY REDEVELOPMENT ture grace. We praise You that You are nized this year with the highest award AGENCY not a spectator God who sits in heaven of the Southern Baptist Convention, uncaring and unconcerned. You are a Brother David, as his church knows (Mr. SIRES asked and was given per- loving Father who has numbered the him, has taken seriously the admoni- mission to address the House for 1 hairs on our head. Your wounded feet tions of Jesus to feed His sheep, min- minute.) still walk with us on the road of suf- ister to their needs, and take the Gos- Mr. SIRES. Mr. Speaker, I rise to fering. Your heart that was broken on pel into all the world. highlight the good work of the Jersey the cross still feels our every pain. As I heard here from a Florida pastor City Redevelopment Agency in the 13th And so, Father, give to Your servants yesterday, Brother David is truly an District of New Jersey, which I have wisdom and grace. May Your kingdom inspiration and a blessing because of the honor of representing. come and Your will be done. We hum- his evident burden for reaching out to The Jersey City Redevelopment bly ask in the name that is above every help others. He faithfully serves our Agency has a distinguished history in name, Your Son, our Redeemer, Jesus church, the local community, our the fight to eliminate blight, to create Christ. Amen. country and world. He dearly loves his opportunities, and to attract residen- amazing wife, Cindy, their daughters tial, commercial and industrial real es- f Jenni and Laura Grace, and their hus- tate projects in Jersey City. THE JOURNAL bands Jason and Jim. He and Cindy are Since its inception 60 years ago, the now the proud grandparents of Lizzi Jersey City Redevelopment Agency has The SPEAKER. The Chair has exam- and Caroline. God’s love is evident in been responsible for the direct rein- ined the Journal of the last day’s pro- the life and love of Brother David as vestment of billions of dollars in Jer- ceedings and announces to the House today’s congressional chaplain. sey City and tens of thousands of jobs. her approval thereof. Madam Speaker, though I am allowed The agency is committed to enhancing Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Jour- only 1 minute, it would take many the quality of life for all residents of nal stands approved. times more than that to adequately Jersey City by guiding responsible de- f extol the virtues of this great Amer- velopment and reinvestment in all ican pastor. neighborhoods and communities in Jer- PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE f sey City. They work daily to enhance The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman the quality of life of their residents and MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE from New Jersey (Mr. SIRES) come for- improve economic and housing oppor- ward and lead the House in the Pledge A message from the Senate by Ms. tunities while building strong, viable of Allegiance. Curtis, one of its clerks, announced partnerships with the Jersey City com- Mr. SIRES led the Pledge of Alle- that the Senate agrees to the amend- munity. giance as follows: ments of the House to the bill (S. 2403) Please join me in honoring the Jer- I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the ‘‘An Act to designate the new Federal sey City Redevelopment Agency as United States of America, and to the Repub- Courthouse, located in the 700 block of they celebrate their 60th year in busi- lic for which it stands, one nation under God, East Broad Street, Richmond, Virginia, ness and as they continue to build a indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. as the ‘‘Spottswood W. Robinson III better Jersey City for all residents.

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VerDate Aug 31 2005 00:10 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10SE7.000 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7960 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 HOW MUCH MORE CAN BARACK House for 1 minute and to revise and As I toured factories, management OBAMA DISRESPECT WOMEN? extend his remarks.) explained how the rising cost of energy (Mrs. MILLER of Michigan asked and Mr. SMITH of Nebraska. Mr. Speak- was forcing them to raise the cost of was given permission to address the er, tomorrow we will look back on a their products, oftentimes making for- House for 1 minute and to revise and dark day which changed our Nation eign-made goods more appealing to extend her remarks.) and the world forever. consumers. When I met with farmers, Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. Mr. On September 11, 2001, we felt the they explained the high cost of fuel, Speaker, the campaign of BARACK tremors of the World Trade Center col- fertilizer, and chemicals. Some farmers OBAMA cannot refute Governor Sarah lapsing and the attack on the Pen- are spending over $900 a day to run Palin’s record of change and reform as tagon. We suffered the destruction of their tractors. Governor of Alaska. She took on the Flight 93 in rural Pennsylvania. And At our county fairs and events ‘‘Old Boy Network’’ in Alaska and she we came together as a country. throughout the district, families de- won. She took on corruption through- On that day, we learned those who scribed the impact of high gas prices out State government and rooted it would use terror and violence make no and how it is affecting their spending and savings plans, putting their finan- out. She took on Big Oil and made it distinction between innocent victims cial future and stability into jeopardy. serve the interests of her State. She is and soldiers. We learned the terrible lengths terrorists would go to, and During these discussions, I took pride a true agent of change. in telling everyone that House Repub- So now the Obama campaign has de- their utter disregard for human life. licans were fighting during the entire cided that the way to get at Sarah We mourned the loss of so many of our August recess for lower energy costs Palin is through personal attacks and fellow citizens. with an ‘‘all of the above’’ plan that in- sexist insults. Yesterday, the Associ- In the days, weeks, months and years cludes the responsible recovery of our ated Press quoted the following: ‘‘ ‘You since, we have honored the sacrifice and courage of those who showed the natural resources in addition to further can put lipstick on a pig,’ Obama said development of renewable and alter- to an outbreak of laughter, shouts and world America has men and women willing to lay down their lives for their native energy. raucous applause from his audience, Without comprehensive energy re- fellow citizens. clearly drawing a connection to Palin’s form, our constituents and economy Mr. Speaker, our thoughts should be joke. ‘It’s still a pig.’ ’’ will continue to suffer. It’s time for on the lives lost on September 11, 2001 Well, Mr. Speaker, Senator OBAMA Congress to act now. might find such jokes funny, but and of the men and women of our women will only find them insulting. Armed Forces who are fighting for our f American women also understand that freedom to this day. STROLLING DOWN MEMORY LANE: if this is the kind of change that Sen- f THE BUSH PRESIDENCY ator OBAMA is offering to America, it is (Mr. MCDERMOTT asked and was b 1015 really no change at all. Senator OBAMA given permission to address the House owes Governor Palin and the women of OIL SECURITY for 1 minute and to revise and extend America an apology. (Mr. OLVER asked and was given his remarks.) f permission to address the House for 1 Mr. MCDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, with the clock winding down on the Presi- WE NEED A CHANGE IN minute.) dent’s second term, this seems like a WASHINGTON Mr. OLVER. Mr. Speaker, the corner- stone of our Republican colleagues’ en- good time to stroll down memory lane, (Mr. KAGEN asked and was given looking back on America then and ergy mantra these days is ‘‘Drill Now, permission to address the House for 1 now. Drill Anywhere’’ to eliminate our de- minute and to revise and extend his re- Under this President the number of marks.) pendence on foreign oil and to bring Americans without health care has Mr. KAGEN. Mr. Speaker, I rise gasoline prices now. ‘‘Drill now, drill risen from 38 million to 46 million. today because of a great change that is anywhere’’ works more like a concrete Under this President the price of gaso- taking place in northeast Wisconsin, a boot than a cornerstone. In the inter- line has risen from less than $1.50 a gal- change brought on by the failed eco- est of America’s national security, that lon to $4 a gallon. Under this President nomic policies of the current adminis- is just about the worst policy we could the unemployment rate has risen to tration, an administration that doesn’t adopt. over 6 percent, with millions more care about people, rather, they care According to our Geological Survey Americans out of work and running out about corporate profits. What is taking and our Minerals Management Survey, of help. Under this President the prices place in Wisconsin is taking place our total oil reserves both on land and that Americans pay for food, fuel, col- across the middle part of this country. offshore would only last 15 to 20 years lege, transportation, and medical costs We are losing our jobs overseas. at the rate America consumes oil have risen by 25 percent. And let’s not The paper industry in Wisconsin is today, which is 8 billion barrels a year forget that mortgage foreclosures are being decimated, and recently a paper and still rising. What exactly would rising while housing prices are falling, mill closed. One of the families that America do in 15 to 20 years when all of like a rock. This President has been lost their position was Bruce Van Zee- our oil is used up and the only remain- willing to bail out Wall Street but land, who writes, ‘‘It turned our life ing sources of oil are controlled by never mind Main Street. upside down, working at one company some of the most undemocratic oil dic- Strolling down memory lane can be for 28 years and having no other skills tatorships around the world? very educational, especially when you in this horrible job market. My wife is Think about it, America, before it’s consider the President is running for struggling to find a full-time job now. too late. an unprecedented third term. They We cannot help out our three kids in f talk about change, but only the names will change. The Republican ‘‘wreck-o- college. We worry about losing our COMPREHENSIVE ENERGY RE- nomic’’ policies that created this eco- home.’’ FORM; THE TIME FOR CONGRESS This is the change that came about nomic disaster will remain exactly the TO ACT IS NOW from this Republican dominated House same. That’s not nostalgia; that’s a for 12 years and the current adminis- (Mr. LATTA asked and was given promise from this administration. tration. We do need a change in Wash- permission to address the House for 1 f ington, and the Van Zeelands need it minute.) now. Mr. LATTA. Mr. Speaker, I spent the DRILL, BABY, DRILL, AND MINE COAL f month of August traveling throughout my district speaking with my constitu- (Mr. SHIMKUS asked and was given SEPTEMBER 11 ents about what issues matter to them permission to address the House for 1 (Mr. SMITH of Nebraska asked and most. Hands down, energy prices are minute and to revise and extend his re- was given permission to address the their number one concern. marks.)

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:34 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.002 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE September 10, 2008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H7961 Mr. SHIMKUS. Mr. Speaker, here’s Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina. THE FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES the difference between both sides. Fol- Mr. Speaker, it’s been 5 weeks since we OF THE DEMOCRATS lowing my colleague, who says this ad- have been in session here on the House (Ms. FOXX asked and was given per- ministration, this President, what he floor. But there have been many of us mission to address the House for 1 fails to mention is that the Democrat that have been on this floor through- minute.) majority in this House for the past 2 out the month of August. We have Ms. FOXX. Mr. Speaker, when I first years is part of the problem. I recog- talked directly with the American peo- came to the Congress, I was appalled at nize that. ple about the immediate need for com- the comments that were being made on Here is the price of a barrel of crude prehensive energy legislation. And dur- the other side. Having come from a leg- oil when President Bush came in: $23 a ing August, it became crystal clear islative position, I was not used to peo- barrel. Here’s the price of a barrel of that there’s a disconnect between what ple getting up and telling out-and-out crude oil when this Democrat majority is happening on the streets of America boldfaced untruths. It has been a real came in: $58 a barrel. Today it’s at $103. and what is happening here in Wash- learning experience for me, but that We can’t sustain that. We can blame ington, DC. has continued particularly in the last 2 everybody we want, but this is a prob- One day my colleague was talking years with our colleagues on the other lem we can’t sustain. and in a moment of doubt and frustra- side. They stand up here and try to Drill, baby, drill. Here’s the Outer tion, he said, ‘‘I don’t even know if blame what has happened in this coun- Continental Shelf. They want to only anybody is listening,’’ to which some- try in the last 2 years on the President to do 20 percent, maybe. They can’t body stood up on the floor here and of the United States when the Demo- even get an agreement on what they said, ‘‘America is listening, Congress- crats are in charge of the Congress. want. This whole area should be open man. America is listening.’’ And he was for exploration recovery of oil and gas right. One of the best things we accom- in our country to help decrease our re- The American people are hurting. At plished during the month of August, liance on imported crude oil and lower a gas station in North Augusta, South when Republicans stood on this floor prices, and they don’t have a clue. Carolina, one gentleman, a special for 5 weeks while Democrats were on They’ll continue to say ‘‘no’’ to oil and needs gentleman, came up to me and vacation, was call attention to the fact gas exploration. said, ‘‘Congressman, I can only afford that the Democrats are in charge. The They won’t even address coal as part $39 of gas, half a tank, because that’s failed economic policies of the past 2 of the solution. Coal is the greatest re- all I have and that’s got to do me.’’ years belong strictly to the Democrats source we have in this country. What are we doing to help this gen- because they have allowed gas prices to I want to drill, baby, drill, and I want tleman? double and they have done absolutely to mine coal. Mr. Speaker, let’s quit the partisan- nothing. Now they’re bringing up a bill they f ship. This is an American problem and we need American solutions. Com- say that’s going to do something about IF YOU WANT CHANGE, YOU WANT prehensive legislation, all of the above. gas prices. Well, I think that bill will THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY f probably deserve the ‘‘Emperor’s New (Mr. COHEN asked and was given per- Clothes’’ award and somebody is going mission to address the House for 1 REPUBLICAN FAILURES ON THE to have to say that. minute.) ECONOMY; WE CANNOT AFFORD Mr. COHEN. Mr. Speaker, it’s a bit MORE OF THE SAME f confusing sometimes to listen to the (Ms. EDWARDS of Maryland asked rhetoric. The Republicans have had the and was given permission to address HEALTH CARE Presidency now for nearly 8 years, and the House for 1 minute.) they have had the majority in this Ms. EDWARDS of Maryland. Mr. (Mr. ALTMIRE asked and was given House since 1994, I think. And if you Speaker, Americans everywhere are permission to address the House for 1 watched the Republican convention, paying the high price of 7 years of minute.) you would think they were the Demo- failed Republican economic policies Mr. ALTMIRE. Mr. Speaker, while crats talking about change and the that have favored the wealthiest few some in the minority party and in the problems we have in Washington. and the big corporations at the expense Presidential race are trying to recast They’re so against Washington, it’s the of middle class families, including in themselves as agents of change, noth- Washington they have created and cul- my State of Maryland. ing could be further from the truth. In tivated. And the corruption that we’ve Today, 3.4 million more Americans fact, the Republicans controlled this seen here has mostly been on that par- are unemployed than when President House for the first 6 years of the Bush ticular side of the aisle. The failure of Bush took office 7 years ago. This year administration and in the past 2 years our having a children’s health plan, alone more than 600,000 jobs have been they have done little more than ob- which this country should have as a lost. Economists estimate that our struct our attempts to correct the mis- cornerstone of its policy, was the fault economy must create at least 150,000 guided policies of the past. of the Republican side that was more jobs every month. Well, this adminis- In the past 8 years, the number of interested in tobacco interests than tration hasn’t done that. Americans living without health insur- children’s interests. And too many The job losses that have occurred on ance has increased by more than 7 mil- times we see the corporate interests of President Bush’s watch stand in stark lion. Today nearly one in nine children the oil corporations take over the in- contrast to the millions of jobs created lack health insurance. After retaking terests of the American society and under President Clinton’s economy control of Congress, we tried not once getting us to be truly energy inde- back in the 1990s. Over this same 8- but twice to ensure that 10 million pendent. month period in Clinton’s second term, children had access to health care I submit to you, Mr. Speaker, that the economy created 1.4 million jobs, through the Children’s Health Insur- the parties have differences, but if you and we have lost 600,000 jobs under this ance Program, which serves families want change, you want the Democratic administration just this year alone. that are working hard and playing by Party. BARACK OBAMA was a commu- Mr. Speaker, for 6 years straight, the rules but can’t afford health care nity organizer like Jesus, whom our Washington Republicans implemented for their kids. And although we were minister prayed about. Pontius Pilate economic policies that favored the in- able to pass the bill through Congress, was a Governor. terests of Wall Street over the inter- President Bush vetoed it twice and f ests of Main Street. It’s time for a dra- Senator MCCAIN recently said that was matic change, one that takes us away the right decision. ENERGY from the failed Republican policies of Mr. Speaker, we must work together (Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina the last 8 years and enables us to really to find ways to improve our health care asked and was given permission to ad- tackle the challenges of the 21st cen- system, especially for our children. dress the House for 1 minute.) tury. More of the same just won’t do.

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:34 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.004 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7962 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 SUSPENSION BILLS: MAJOR POL- b 1030 America’s innovation and the fact that ICY DECISIONS BY THE LEADER- LET’S NOT BEG OPEC we are not as competitive as this coun- SHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY try needs to be. One of the best solu- (Mr. TERRY asked and was given (Mr. BURGESS asked and was given tions to these three major problems is permission to address the House for 1 permission to address the House for 1 solar energy. minute and to revise and extend his re- minute and to revise and extend his re- The investment tax credit, Mr. marks.) Speaker, the ITC, will expire at the end marks.) Mr. TERRY. Yesterday, OPEC met. Mr. BURGESS. Mr. Speaker, I came of the year. At home in southern Ari- OPEC decided to cut production be- to the floor of the House this morning zona and across this great Nation, free cause they were frustrated that the energy radiates from the sky almost to talk about energy. But I just want price per barrel was nearing the $100 every day of the year. Across my dis- to say a word about what was just dis- per barrel price. My goodness. What a trict, residents, businesses, utilities, cussed. We have had major policy decisions tragedy for them. Isn’t it a problem for and individuals are all working to do their part to take advantage of that in health care come to the floor of this this country that we rely so heavily on sunshine. But major projects, large House, not through my Subcommittee foreign oil? OPEC controls the major- projects, but also small projects, will on Health in Energy and Commerce, ity of oil production. Our energy policy not move forward without the exten- not through the full Committee on En- should not have to be begging OPEC for more production. sion of the ITC. ergy and Commerce. No. It comes di- Southern Arizonans are willing to do rectly from the Speaker’s Office to the Yesterday, our electric company that serves my district announced they’re their part. We here in Congress have to floor of the House. It comes up under do ours by working across party lines suspension because who wants to vote raising the rates because the train company that hauls the coal to them and working in the Senate to ensure against health? Who wants to vote that the ITC is extended. This is crit- against doctors? had to raise their rates because the price of diesel fuel has gone up so ical for our country, for our competi- But the reality is major changes in tiveness, for climate change, and for public policy are going on with no dis- much. So the electrical rates of every consumer, every household in Omaha, ending our dependency on foreign oil. cussion in committee, no ability to I urge my colleagues to work to- is going to have double digit inflation amend or improve a bill on the floor of gether to pass the ITC. on their electric bill. the House, no ability to offer an alter- f native before we vote because they are Please, Mr. Speaker, let the madness brought up under suspension. stop. Let’s do a real energy bill. HOUSE DEMOCRATS CONTINUE TO This is wrong and this is indicative of f SUPPORT BILLS THAT PROVIDE AMERICANS RELIEF AT THE the type of leadership that this House THEY PUT US IN THIS SITUATION has had for the last 20 months. This is PUMP what the American people say they (Mr. MORAN of Virginia asked and (Mr. STUPAK asked and was given want changed. When they talk about was given permission to address the permission to address the House for 1 change, they’re talking about change House for 1 minute and to revise and minute and to revise and extend his re- from the top, and it’s high time it hap- extend his remarks.) marks.) pened. Mr. MORAN of Virginia. Mr. Speak- Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Speaker, back in er, for the last 8 years, our President f 2003, congressional Republicans sup- and Vice President the founder of Bush ported the Bush-Cheney energy bill DEMOCRATS LOOK TO JUMP- Oil Exploration and the former CEO of that was written in secret by Big Oil. START THE BUSH ECONOMY BY Halliburton, the world’s largest oil And, boy, are we paying. PASSING SECOND ECONOMIC RE- servicing firm, have had this country Three years later, we have record COVERY PLAN focused almost exclusively on drilling prices for consumers and record profits (Mr. PERLMUTTER asked and was for fossil fuels, the use of oil and gas to for the oil companies. Since taking given permission to address the House power our economy. This administra- control of Congress last year, Demo- for 1 minute.) tion issued 40,000 permits for drilling crats have worked hard to reverse Mr. PERLMUTTER. Mr. Speaker, on public land onshore, and made 300 these failed energy policies. you can put lipstick on the failed Bush- million acres offshore available to oil For the first time in 32 years, we in- McCain policies, but they are still the and gas companies. They still have 68 creased the fuel efficiency standards same old Bush-McCain policies. And million acres of proven reserves that for vehicles so they will be more effi- those Bush-McCain policies have led they are not drilling on. cient, which will save Americans about our Nation into a recession. Americans But what is the focus now? Let’s go $1,000 a year. We also made a historic need a new direction and a change. after that last remaining 20 percent, commitment to investing in biofuels Since taking control of Congress last even though it’s the most environ- and increasing domestic oil supply and year, congressional Democrats have mentally sensitive, even though it will drill responsibly. This is a good start, but more needs been working to rebuild the Bush- devastate the tourism industry and to be done. That’s why House Demo- McCain economy and help families fishing industry of several states. Let’s crats brought eight pieces of legisla- struggling to make ends meet. We go after that. That’s the answer. For- tion up in July to cut the high cost of started by enacting the first increase get the fact that we opposed research gas, and Republicans opposed every one in the Federal minimum wage in al- into solar power, cutting it by 80 per- of those bills. most a decade, directly helping an esti- cent, cutting wind power research and Mr. Speaker, it’s time for House Re- mated 5.3 million Americans and set- opposing more fuel efficient engines. publicans to work with us Democrats ting a new wage floor for another 7.2 They put us in this situation, and to provide the American people lower million lower wage workers. When it’s now they want more of the same. And costs at the pump and lower costs in fully phased in, the pay raise will place they’re wrong. the grocery store by ending the exces- an additional $4,400 in the paychecks of f sive Wall Street speculation in our en- these workers. This year we extended A RESPONSIBLE ENERGY POLICY ergy markets and increasing our en- assistance to unemployed workers who ergy and food costs. Mr. Speaker, it’s are having a difficult time finding a job MUST INCLUDE SOLAR TAX CREDITS time to end the manipulation of prices in a Bush-McCain economy that is sim- by Wall Street and the excessive specu- ply not producing jobs. Now we are pre- (Ms. GIFFORDS asked and was given lation, to lower prices and save this paring to introduce a new economic permission to address the House for 1 American economy. minute.) package that will invest in America f and create new jobs. Ms. GIFFORDS. There are three big Mr. Speaker, Congress cannot afford problems that face America today. RECESS to wait to jump-start this economy. We First, our dependence on foreign oil; The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- must act this month. second, climate change; and third, ant to clause 12(a) of rule I, the Chair

VerDate Aug 31 2005 00:10 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.006 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE September 10, 2008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H7963 declares the House in recess subject to ment adopted in the Committee of the Whole home to some of the best flat-water ca- the call of the Chair. to the bill or to the committee amendment noeing in Vermont and in the North- Accordingly (at 10 o’clock and 35 in the nature of a substitute made in order east. Both of these rivers are highly minutes a.m.), the House stood in re- as original text. The previous question shall valued by the surrounding towns and be considered as ordered on the bill and cess subject to the call of the Chair. amendments thereto to final passage with- the communities. It has great rec- f out intervening motion except one motion to reational areas, swimming pools, and recommit with or without instructions. boating. Vermont parents that grew up b 1220 SEC. 2. During consideration in the House swimming in these rivers take their AFTER RECESS of H.R. 3667 pursuant to this resolution, not- kids back there, and it’s a place in withstanding the operation of the previous Vermont of just extraordinary scenic The recess having expired, the House question, the Chair may postpone further and natural beauty. was called to order by the Speaker pro consideration of the bill to such time as may The bill, as these study bills all do, tempore (Mr. SALAZAR) at 12 o’clock be designated by the Speaker. provides for a study of the two rivers, and 20 minutes p.m. SEC. 3. House Resolution 1399 is laid on the table. and it represents a first step toward f protecting Abenaki Indian archeo- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- logical sites along the flood plains, pro- PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION tleman from Vermont is recognized for tecting scenic waterfalls and gorges, OF H.R. 3667, MISSISQUOI AND 1 hour. and a way of life that has been in these TROUT RIVERS WILD AND SCE- Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speak- communities surrounding the two riv- NIC RIVER STUDY ACT OF 2008 er, for the purpose of debate only, I ers for generations. yield the customary 30 minutes to the Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speak- Passage of the rule will allow the gentleman from Washington, my er, by direction of the Committee on Missisquoi and Trout Rivers Wild and friend, Mr. HASTINGS. All time yielded Rules, I call up House Resolution 1419 Scenic River Study Act to be consid- during consideration of the rule is for and ask for its immediate consider- ered on the floor by the full body, and debate only. ation. I urge support of this rule and the un- The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- GENERAL LEAVE derlying bill. lows: Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speak- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of H. RES. 1419 er, I ask unanimous consent that all my time. Resolved, That at any time after the adop- Members be given 5 legislative days in Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. tion of this resolution the Speaker may, pur- which to revise and extend remarks on Speaker, I want to thank my friend suant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII, declare the House Resolution 1419. from Vermont (Mr. WELCH) for yielding House resolved into the Committee of the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there me the customary 30 minutes, and I Whole House on the state of the Union for objection to the request of the gen- yield myself such time as I may con- consideration of the bill (H.R. 3667) to amend tleman from Vermont? the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act to designate sume. a segment of the Missisquoi and Trout Riv- There was no objection. (Mr. HASTINGS of Washington asked ers in the State of Vermont for study for po- Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speak- and was given permission to revise and tential addition to the National Wild and er, I yield myself such time as I may extend his remarks.) Scenic Rivers System. The first reading of consume. Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. the bill shall be dispensed with. All points of H. Res. 1419 provides for the consider- Speaker, my colleague has spoken at order against consideration of the bill are ation of H.R. 3667, the Missisquoi and length about the reasons—though not waived except those arising under clause 9 or Trout Rivers Wild and Scenic Study as long as I thought he would, let’s put 10 of rule XXI. General debate shall be con- Act of 2008, under a structured rule. fined to the bill and shall not exceed one it that way—why he believes these hour equally divided and controlled by the The rule provides 1 hour of general de- stretches of the river in Vermont to be chairman and ranking minority member of bate controlled by the Committee on studied for the designation as Wild and the Committee on Natural Resources. After Natural Resources, makes in order Scenic, and it’s very clear that he general debate the bill shall be considered three amendments printed in the Rules strongly believes in this bill to enact for amendment under the five-minute rule. It Committee report, and provides one this study. He obviously has a great shall be in order to consider as an original motion to recommit with or without deal of love for his State when he chal- bill for the purpose of amendment under the instructions. lenges all of the other 49 States as not five-minute rule the amendment in the na- Mr. Speaker, I want to thank Chair- ture of a substitute recommended by the being as beautiful, at least indirectly, Committee on Natural Resources now print- man RAHALL and Representative as Vermont. And I would just point out ed in the bill pursuant to Part II of House GRIJALVA, Ranking Members YOUNG to him that in my State we have so Report 110–668. That committee amendment and BISHOP for helping to bring this much geographic diversity as far as in the nature of a substitute shall be consid- bill to the floor today. And I would like beauty is concerned, from one area of ered as read. All points of order against that to thank the staff of the Natural Re- the State where we have more rainfall committee amendment in the nature of a sources Committee for their very hard than anyplace in a country—I’m not substitute are waived except those arising work on a bill that is of great impor- talking about Seattle; I’m talking under clause 10 of rule XXI. Notwithstanding tance to my State of Vermont. clause 11 of rule XVIII, no amendment to about the Olympic Peninsula—to the that committee amendment in the nature of The Missisquoi and Trout Rivers are area where I live, which is a desert area a substitute shall be in order except those two of the most beautiful rivers in the that has in some areas where I live less printed in the report of the Committee on most beautiful State in the Nation, and than 7 inches of rain. So I invite my Rules accompanying this resolution. Each that, with all due respect to the man friend any time he wants to come out such amendment may be offered only in the from Washington, I claim to be the to see what real beauty is in a short pe- order printed in the report, may be offered State of Vermont. These rivers are bor- riod of time, and he may want to ask only by a Member designated in the report, dered by the largest and perhaps the me up there and I might respond to shall be considered as read, shall be debat- highest quality silver maple floodplain able for the time specified in the report that. equally divided and controlled by the pro- forest remaining in our State of But having said all of that, Mr. ponent and an opponent, shall not be subject Vermont. They are also home to di- Speaker, I believe it’s fair to say that to amendment, and shall not be subject to a verse animal life, including brook the American people, frankly, are far demand for division of the question in the trout, rare freshwater mussels, and less concerned about the rivers in House or in the Committee of the Whole. All spiny soft shell turtles. It’s a favorite Vermont and are far more concerned points of order against such amendments are walking, hiking, fishing area for many about the high price of gasoline and waived except those arising under clause 9 or people in northern Vermont and, in- the fact that Congress is not acting 10 of rule XXI. At the conclusion of consider- deed, from Upstate New York and all ation of the bill for amendment the Com- right now on real solutions to lower en- mittee shall rise and report the bill to the around Vermont. ergy costs. House with such amendments as may have Additionally, the Missisquoi River is The House of Representatives will been adopted. Any Member may demand a part of this extraordinary 740-mile spend over 21⁄2 hours today discussing separate vote in the House on any amend- northern forest canoe trail, which is rivers in Vermont but not 1 minute,

VerDate Aug 31 2005 00:10 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.010 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7964 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 Mr. Speaker, not 1 minute, on actual ica’s ability to produce more of its own there were a number of tourists, as we legislation to lower the price of gaso- energy and on American jobs and the always have coming through the U.S. line. I really believe that the priorities economy. And we can do that, Mr. Capitol, their Capitol, and they were of this Congress since we have come Speaker, very simply by opening the invited to sit on the floor and talk with back from the 5-week August vacation resources that we have in this country. us, interact with Members that came are wrong. High gas and energy prices We need to change their no, no, no down and spoke. are hurting American workers and it’s stance on producing more American The 2 days that I was here, and I hurting our Nation’s economy. energy. admit I was only here 2 of those days, This Congress, Mr. Speaker, and we b 1230 the last 2 days, and I had private con- all know this, needs to vote on the all- versations with a number of tourists With jobs at stake, Mr. Speaker, this of-the-above energy plan. In that plan that came through here. I have to say Congress twiddles its thumbs and it includes promoting alternative en- they were not from the Northwest, al- busies itself once again, as we did ear- ergy sources, like wind and solar though there were some from the lier in the year, naming post offices power. I might add parenthetically, Mr. Northwest, but there were some from and, today, studying the value of rivers Speaker, that we have a nuclear plant the South, and they were all kind of in Vermont, in all deference to my in my district, we have hydro plants in perplexed as to why the people’s House, friend from Vermont. my district, and we have wind ma- the House of Representatives, probably Mr. Speaker, this House should be chines in my district. I am all in favor the genius part of our Founding Fa- permitted to have a ‘‘yes’’ or ‘‘no’’ vote of all of the above, and our all-of-the- thers in making a representative body, on legislation to expand alternative en- above energy plan includes precisely of which all Members that have served ergy sources and to lift the ban on that. there, and there are slightly over 11,000 drilling offshore, both coasts, Mr. This plan recognizes the need for Members that have served in this body Speaker, and in ANWR and other Alas- more nuclear power. As I mentioned, I and, Mr. Speaker, every one, every one kan lands in Alaska. But, unfortu- have a nuclear power plant in my dis- of those Members have been elected to nately, the liberal leaders in this Con- trict. Of course, it protects the value of this House. There has never been a gress have blocked, up to this point hydropower, and that is the most abun- Member that was appointed to the U.S. have blocked, a fair ‘‘yes’’ or ‘‘no’’ vote dant energy source for us in the North- House of Representatives. for months because I believe, Mr. west. But it also allows, while we tran- Now why do I say this in the context Speaker, and I believe the majority of sition to a new energy source in the fu- Members of this body knows that if we of energy prices? The genius of our ture, it allows drilling offshore and in Founding Fathers was that the House were to put the all-of-the-above energy Alaska and on other Federal lands. plan up for a vote, that a majority of of Representatives and the fact that Mr. Speaker, it really is time for the every one was elected is probably more this House would vote for it. But we liberal leaders of this Congress to stop have been denied that opportunity in tune to what the people’s wishes are blocking a vote on producing more across the country. time after time after time. Instead, American-made energy. It’s time for And so they were, frankly, the people they voted to go on a 5-week vacation Members of Congress to stop hiding I talked to, perplexed. Well, if this is in August to avoid working to lower and to start voting. the people’s House, why haven’t you gas prices, to protect American jobs, to Mr. Speaker, we all know that we are had the opportunity to have a vote, make our Nation more energy inde- not elected to avoid taking positions just a vote up or down, recognizing, lis- pendent. on tough issues. We are elected to ten, we know that a majority rules, But, Mr. Speaker, I want to say that stand up and resolve those tough issues and I am prepared to take the con- during that time since the adjourn- for the American people. So it’s time sequences of that if my position on any ment for the 5-week vacation, a num- for Congress to set aside naming post issue fails to get a majority vote. I rec- ber of my Republican colleagues, 136 of offices; in deference, again, to my ognize that. I think every Member of my Republican colleagues, were here friend from Vermont, studying rivers. Congress understands that. But to not every day for several hours a day, try- It’s time to get serious about address- have the opportunity, not have the op- ing to attempt to call the ask the ing the high cost of gasoline and voting portunity to even vote, even vote on a Speaker to call Congress back in ses- yes or no on real solutions, including proposal, really perplexes the tourists sion. Unfortunately, that didn’t hap- drilling offshore and in Alaska. pen. So now we are back here again on With that, Mr. Speaker, I reserve the that came through here the 2 days I a regularly scheduled basis, and we will balance of my time. was on the floor. certainly have an opportunity to have Mr. WELCH of Vermont. I am the In talking to my other colleagues, a vote on the all-of-the-above, and I last speaker on our side, so I will re- some of whom were down here as many will talk about that more later. serve my time. as 13 days, and more, they had what I But, Mr. Speaker, in the past, in the Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. would say were similar experiences past, Senator BARACK OBAMA, Senator Speaker, the gentleman is the last with their conversations with people JOE BIDEN, Senator HARRY REID, and speaker, and he is prepared to close. I that came through here. Speaker NANCY PELOSI, they are the know I have several Members that have Mr. Speaker, I mentioned that my leaders of the Democrat Party here in asked for time. So, Mr. Speaker, I will district is the district that in central the U.S. Congress. Yet the one thing, yield myself such time as I may con- Washington that is a center of vir- other than being Democrat leaders, the sume until other Members come to the tually—I won’t say all, but a great one thing they all have in common, Mr. floor. deal—of electricity that is produced in Speaker, is that they have in the past Mr. Speaker, I mentioned just briefly the Pacific Northwest. Within my dis- always opposed offshore drilling and in my remarks that after the adjourn- trict, for example, probably the hydro- drilling in Alaska. I think the majority ment prior to the 5-week vacation and, electric facility that most Americans of the Americans feel contrary to that by the way, that adjournment resolu- can associate with is Grand Coulee view. And they fight and block any ac- tion was passed on a straight partisan Dam. Half of that dam is in my district tion on that at every turn. They refuse vote. Every Republican voted against and the other half is in my colleague’s to act and to allow a vote on a drilling it because we felt we needed to stay from the Fifth District, CATHY and alternative energy plan that would here to help resolve the energy problem MCMORRIS RODGERS’ district. ultimately lower gas prices. rather than go on a 5-week vacation. But, in addition to that, I have up to To me, Mr. Speaker, I just simply But there were a number of Members, I 10 dams that are wholly within my dis- have to say in this election year that can mention 136 Members, that came trict or I share with other Members of it’s clear that liberalism has been put down here and talked about the need Congress, including my friend and col- ahead of the need to help American for energy. league from across the river in Oregon, workers and families struggling with During that time, Mr. Speaker, the GREG WALDEN. There are three dams high gas prices. We need to end the lights were off here, the microphones there where we share half of those stranglehold that they have on Amer- were off, and the cameras were off. Yet dams.

VerDate Aug 31 2005 00:10 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.012 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE September 10, 2008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H7965 That produces about 70 percent of the Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous con- this part of the debate a draw and pro- electricity in the northwest. It is re- sent to have the text of the amendment ceed. newable, Mr. Speaker. It is absolutely and extraneous material inserted into Two things in response to comments renewable, and we need to expand that, the RECORD prior to the vote on the made by my friend from Washington. and a portion of expanding hydropower previous question. Number one, it appears that there are is in the all-of-the-above energy plan I The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there no reservations or no stated objections talked about earlier that we have been objection to the request of the gen- to the study itself that is, frankly, denied a vote on. We have been denied tleman from Washington? quite important to Vermont. This is a a vote on. There was no objection. very special part of our State that has Furthermore, I mentioned that I Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. the opportunity with the benefit of this have wind plants in my district. Be- Speaker, I again ask my colleagues to study to be preserved for generations cause generally in areas that I men- vote ‘‘no’’ on the previous question so ahead, just as it has been cared for and tioned earlier on, that there was not a that Congress, as they return from the enjoyed by generations in the past. So whole lot of rainfall in certain parts of 5-week recess—vacation, in some peo- it is a very, very serious issue to the my district, but the wind does blow. ple’s terms—and begin the work here in folks in Vermont. It is just a very spe- Now the wind, of course, is only good if the fall before the election, so that we cial place. the wind blows. But if the wind blows, can finally vote, Mr. Speaker, on real The gentleman has not raised any it adds to the other facilities, like solutions to the real and painful prob- specific objections. His objections are hydro, like hydro, or like nuclear. And lem of high gas and energy prices. more in the nature of spending time on I have a nuclear plant in my district. American workers and families are this instead of spending time on some- What I am saying, Mr. Speaker, is hurting. Congress can help, can help thing else. So I would urge the Mem- that my constituents are well aware today by voting on and passing this bers to take that into account when that we need to have a diverse energy legislation, the American Energy Act. they are voting on the previous ques- portfolio. Without having an oppor- Mr. Speaker, I think it’s time to tion. tunity in the people’s House to at least show whether you’re really for low- Second, I will address the energy ar- address the issue of all of the above, ering gas prices or whether you will guments. This has been the refrain on seems to me to be contrary, seems to continue to vote in lockstep with those the part of our friends on the other side me to be contrary to what this Con- against lifting the ban on offshore as a response to every piece of business gress is all about, and indeed what the drilling and promoting alternative en- that we are doing on behalf of the House of Representatives is all about ergy. American people. I think it has become as it was envisioned by the Founders. apparent that this has become much With that, Mr. Speaker, I have talked Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to more of a political debate than it has about what we did in August, and I vote ‘‘no’’ on the previous question. been an effort substantively to solve a have talked about the fact that up With that, I yield back my time. very, very serious problem. Let me give until August, and now we have a new b 1245 session coming in after the break, that a little commentary about that. Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speak- Number one, my friends on the other the Democrats have blocked and er, I yield myself such time as I may side have been in control of this insti- blocked any vote on lifting the ban. consume. But I have heard during the break tution and had the Presidency and the Mr. Speaker, I am shocked that my that there are a number of brave control of Congress for the past 12 friend from Washington would question Democrats who I think went home, years, until this Congress, and had an my assertions about the beauty of talked to their constituents, and find opportunity to enact comprehensive Vermont, and I will invite the Member out that their constituents were saying energy legislation when it was quite from Washington to come to Vermont we need to become more energy inde- apparent to the American people that so I can let you firsthand experience pendent. As a result, they proclaim the problem of our excessive depend- the evidence that I have had so much that they support now offshore drilling ence on oil was a real and urgent prob- opportunity to observe myself. to increase the supply of gasoline and lem. By the way, I have been to Wash- oil and to make America more energy They did nothing. In fact, the energy independent. ington. I climbed Mt. Rainier three act they passed quite astonishingly Well, listen. To all of my colleagues times and was out on the San Juan Is- provided taxpayer incentives, tax de- that maybe during the August break lands. ductions, tax credits, to oil companies and having listened to their colleagues Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. that were enjoying record profits. It is or to their constituents at home, I Speaker, will the gentleman yield? a mature industry, it is a profitable in- have a very positive message for you, Mr. WELCH of Vermont. For brag- dustry, yet the energy policy that was and I have an opportunity for you, be- ging about Washington, yes, I will. pursued and failed by our friends on cause by voting against the previous Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Well, the other side during the 12 years they question, Mr. Speaker, all of my col- of course I am going to do that. And, were in charge basically was to give oil leagues can prove that you are sup- listen: Mt. Rainier I can see from my companies more taxpayer money. porters of drilling and producing Amer- district on a clear day, because it is It made no sense. There was no effort ican-made energy. Of course, if you do 14,410 feet high. But it is quite a view to use the power they had of the major- not, that means that you side, of when you view it from a desert setting. ity to bring to the floor legislation course, with Speaker PELOSI and you So I invite you the next time you come that would promote alternative energy. oppose drilling. back to come over to my district for all There was no effort to take the power By defeating the previous question, the great wines, where the wine grapes that they had and provide tax incen- Mr. Speaker, I will move to amend the are grown, by the way. And I under- tives for the alternative energy indus- rule to make in order H.R. 6566, the stand my friend likes to have a cold tries that we know we must support if American Energy Act, and I have beer once in a while. The taste of that we are going to reduce and ultimately talked at length about what it is. This beer comes from the hops that are eliminate our dependence on foreign bill will reduce the price at the pump grown in my district. oil. by enacting an all-of-the-above energy So, Mr. Speaker, I appreciate my Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. strategy. Once again, what it does, it friend yielding on that basis, and I look Would the gentleman yield on that increases the supply of American-made forward to his visit. I appreciate it and point? energy by using environmentally sound yield back to him. Mr. WELCH of Vermont. I won’t technology and innovations. It does so Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Thank you, yield. My intention, my friend from by improving conservation and effi- my friend from Washington. We better Washington, is to respond and bring ciency and, Mr. Speaker, it promotes a get back to the focus at hand, because this to a close, thank you. diversity by renewing alternative en- now Vermont quality beer has been So, number one, we are hearing ob- ergy sources, like wind that I had challenged as well as the beauty of jections from people who when they talked about, and solar. Vermont rivers. So we will just call had the power to do the things they

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And what Democratic Party in the House of Rep- sion in this hyper-political atmosphere they claim they want to do are many resentatives is standing in the way of of a presidential election whether we things that we did over their objection. energy policy is flat out wrong. It is want to continue politics as usual, I will give a few examples. flat out false. Why is it being offered? which in my view is a dead end, or we To deal with the short-term price It is being offered for political pur- want to work together to achieve what pressure at the pump and with home poses, I would suggest. we know is important for the American heating oil, this House of Representa- Now, let me tell you this: That al- people, that is, short-term relief for tives passed legislation that I spon- though we have passed comprehensive prices at the pump, and it is a long- sored to stop filling up the Strategic energy legislation several times in this term energy policy that frees us from Petroleum Reserve and take off some House, although each time we have the dependence on oil from foreign of the demand on oil. That has contrib- done it we have had to overcome the countries. uted to helping bring down the price of opposition of our friends on the other So, Mr. Speaker, having said that, let gas at the pump by 5 to 25 cents a gal- side, and although every time we bring me just close by coming back to this lon. up a legitimate piece of legislation very important bill. It is a study. It is Secondly, this House of Representa- that is part of the public business that not necessarily important for many tives has gotten tough on speculators. this Congress must conduct, whether it other parts of the country. But one of The evidence is overwhelming that is a study on the Missisquoi River, an the things that makes this Congress part of the runup in the price of gaso- energy bill or any other bill, every and this country great is mutual re- line when it was heading up to $150 a time we do our friends try to cease the spect. When there is a disaster in the barrel was because of the speculative debate and distort what has happened, Gulf Coast, all States pull together to control and influence of hedge funds in we are prepared, as the gentleman from help out. When there is flooding in the foreign trading operations. We brought Washington knows, we in the Demo- Midwest, all States pull together. to this floor legislation, and just the cratic Party, our leadership is prepared When there is an opportunity for a fact that we did it finally, when it was to bring up yet another comprehensive small State like Vermont to take a ignored and accepted and mollified by energy bill that does include all of the step with Wild and Scenic River study our friends who were in control for 12 above. that will help us and help our citizens years, has helped bring down that spec- The fact is, on our side we have enjoy the beauty of our land, I seek the ulative premium. passed all of the above time and time help of my colleagues to let us accom- There is no justification for any one again, against the opposition of our plish that goal. It is my request and my urging that of our constituents when they pay for a friends on the other side, and then it all Members vote ‘‘yes’’ on the previous gallon of gasoline or a gallon of home has run into a brick wall in the other heating oil or a cubic gallon of natural question and on the rule. body or the steadfast opposition of the The material previously referred to gas to have included in their price a President of the United States. But the by Mr. HASTINGS of Washington is as speculation premium for profiteers, gentleman from Washington is aware follows: and this Congress passed legislation to that the leadership is prepared to bring AMENDMENT TO H. RES. 1419 OFFERED BY MR. challenge that, against the opposition up yet another bill to give us another HASTINGS OF WASHINGTON of our friends on the other side. So we opportunity to do the right thing. At the end of the resolution, add the fol- have taken very specific actions to try Let me say this: I actually think it lowing: to do what we reasonably can do to would be great to work together with SEC. 4. Immediately upon the adoption of bring down the price pressure that is the other side. I come from a State this resolution the House shall, without ripping off the American consuming where we shift majorities back and intervention of any point of order, consider public. forth. Sometimes the Democrats were in the House the bill (H.R. 6566) to bring Second, we have passed energy legis- in control, sometimes the Republican down energy prices by increasing safe, do- lation that is comprehensive, again mestic production, encouraging the develop- were in control. I was the senate presi- ment of alternative and renewable energy, over the opposition of our friends on dent and I was the minority leader. I and promoting conservation. All points of the other side. One of the things we did learned that in order for us ever to get order against the bill are waived. The bill was provided for tax credits for the al- anything done, we had to ultimately shall be considered as read. The previous ternative energy industry. We have to work together. I also came to under- question shall be considered as ordered on do that. That is of urgent, vital eco- stand that neither side had an absolute the bill and any amendment thereto to final nomic and environmental concern to claim that they were the only people passage without intervening motion except: this country. (1) one hour of debate on the bill equally di- who had a good point of view, who had vided and controlled by the majority and mi- We passed legislation that took away an iron grip on truth. nority leader, and (2) an amendment in the the tax breaks that are going to oil I believe that it would be best for all nature of a substitute if offered by the ma- companies. There is no basis whatso- of us if there was some willingness to jority leader or his designee, which shall be ever to ask the taxpayer to pad the try to work on the substance, rather considered as read and shall be separately profits of a mature and profitable in- than just use this as a political foot- debatable for 40 minutes equally divided and dustry. They don’t need it. They are ball, and my observation is that for controlled by the proponent and an oppo- doing quite well without additional whatever reason, it is tough to get to nent; and (3) one motion to recommit with or without instructions. taxpayer money to their bottom line. that point here in the House of Rep- But the new industries, the alter- resentatives in Washington. (The information contained herein was native energies that my friend from Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Will provided by Democratic Minority on mul- Washington mentioned, wind and solar, the gentleman yield on that point? tiple occasions throughout the 109th Con- geothermal and biomass, they do need Mr. WELCH of Vermont. I wouldn’t gress.) a boost, and historically when we have yield, my friend, because I will be THE VOTE ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTION: WHAT been at our best is when we have had bringing this to a close. IT REALLY MEANS the wisdom to use tax policy in a tar- I want to take the opportunity, as I This vote, the vote on whether to order the geted and focused way to give a boost must, when the assertions are made, previous question on a special rule, is not to these emerging industries and tech- falsely in my view, that the Demo- merely a procedural vote. A vote against or- cratic leadership is standing in the way dering the previous question is a vote nologies that are good for the Amer- against the Democratic majority agenda and ican economy and good for our environ- of energy policy change, that is just a vote to allow the opposition, at least for ment, and that is what we need to do. flat-out wrong. The energy for energy the moment, to offer an alternative plan. It We have passed this in the House sev- reform has come from the leadership is a vote about what the House should be de- eral times. Our friends on the other on the Democratic side. Frankly, it has bating.

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Mr. Speak- Higgins Miller, George Sherman fore the House. Cannon cites the Speaker’s er, I ask unanimous consent that the Hinchey Mitchell Shuler ruling of January 13, 1920, to the effect that Hirono Mollohan Sires ‘‘the refusal of the House to sustain the de- Speaker be authorized to entertain mo- Holden Moore (KS) Skelton mand for the previous question passes the tions to suspend the rules relating to Holt Moore (WI) Slaughter Honda Moran (VA) control of the resolution to the opposition’’ House Resolution 1420 on the legisla- Smith (WA) Hooley Murphy (CT) Snyder in order to offer an amendment. On March tive day of Thursday, September 11, Hoyer Murphy, Patrick 15, 1909, a member of the majority party of- Solis 2008. Inslee Murtha Space Israel Nadler fered a rule resolution. The House defeated The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Speier Jackson (IL) Napolitano the previous question and a member of the Spratt objection to the request of the gen- Jackson-Lee Neal (MA) opposition rose to a parliamentary inquiry, Stark tleman from Vermont? (TX) Oberstar asking who was entitled to recognition. Stupak Jefferson Obey Speaker Joseph G. Cannon (R-Illinois) said: There was no objection. Sutton Johnson (GA) Olver ‘‘The previous question having been refused, f Johnson, E. B. Ortiz Tanner the gentleman from New York, Mr. Fitz- Kagen Pallone Tauscher gerald, who had asked the gentleman to ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Kanjorski Pascrell Taylor yield to him for an amendment, is entitled to PRO TEMPORE Kaptur Pastor Thompson (CA) the first recognition.’’ Kildee Payne Thompson (MS) Because the vote today may look bad for The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Kilpatrick Perlmutter Tierney ant to clause 8 of rule XX, proceedings Kind Pomeroy Towns the Democratic majority they will say ‘‘the Tsongas vote on the previous question is simply a will resume on questions previously Klein (FL) Porter Kucinich Price (NC) Udall (CO) vote on whether to proceed to an immediate postponed. Votes will be taken in the Langevin Rahall Udall (NM) vote on adopting the resolution . . . [and] following order: ordering the previous Larsen (WA) Rangel Van Hollen ´ has no substantive legislative or policy im- question on H. Res. 1419, by the yeas Larson (CT) Reichert Velazquez plications whatsoever.’’ But that is not what Lewis (GA) Reyes Visclosky they have always said. Listen to the defini- and nays; adoption of H. Res. 1419, if or- Lipinski Richardson Walz (MN) tion of the previous question used in the dered; motions to suspend the rules on Loebsack Rodriguez Wasserman Floor Procedures Manual published by the H.R. 1527 and Senate bill 2617, by the Lofgren, Zoe Ros-Lehtinen Schultz Waters Rules Committee in the 109th Congress (page yeas and nays. Lowey Ross Lynch Rothman Watson 56). Here’s how the Rules Committee de- The first electronic vote will be con- Mahoney (FL) Roybal-Allard Watt scribed the rule using information from Con- ducted as a 15-minute vote. Remaining Maloney (NY) Ruppersberger Waxman gressional Quarterly’s ‘‘American Congres- electronic votes will be conducted as 5- Markey Rush Weiner sional Dictionary’’: ‘‘If the previous question Marshall Ryan (OH) Welch (VT) is defeated, control of debate shifts to the minute votes. Matheson Salazar Wexler leading opposition member (usually the mi- f Matsui Sa´ nchez, Linda Wilson (OH) nority Floor Manager) who then manages an McCarthy (NY) T. Woolsey PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION McCollum (MN) Sanchez, Loretta Wu hour of debate and may offer a germane McDermott Sarbanes Yarmuth amendment to the pending business.’’ OF H.R. 3667, MISSISQUOI AND Deschler’s Procedure in the U.S. House of TROUT RIVERS WILD AND SCE- NAYS—189 Representatives, the subchapter titled NIC RIVER STUDY ACT OF 2008 ‘‘Amending Special Rules’’ states: ‘‘a refusal Aderholt Diaz-Balart, M. Kingston to order the previous question on such a rule The SPEAKER pro tempore. The un- Akin Donnelly Kirk Alexander Doolittle Kline (MN) [a special rule reported from the Committee finished business is the vote on order- Bachmann Drake Knollenberg on Rules] opens the resolution to amend- ing the previous question on H. Res. Bachus Dreier Kuhl (NY) ment and further debate.’’ (Chapter 21, sec- 1419, on which the yeas and nays were Barrett (SC) Duncan LaHood tion 21.2) Section 21.3 continues: ‘‘Upon re- ordered. Bartlett (MD) Ehlers Lamborn Barton (TX) Emerson Lampson jection of the motion for the previous ques- The Clerk read the title of the resolu- tion on a resolution reported from the Com- Biggert English (PA) Latham mittee on Rules, control shifts to the Mem- tion. Bilbray Everett LaTourette The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Bilirakis Fallin Latta ber leading the opposition to the previous Bishop (UT) Feeney Lewis (CA) question, who may offer a proper amendment question is on ordering the previous Blackburn Flake Lewis (KY) or motion and who controls the time for de- question. Blunt Forbes Linder bate thereon.’’ The vote was taken by electronic de- Boehner Fortenberry LoBiondo Clearly, the vote on the previous question vice, and there were—yeas 224, nays Bonner Fossella Lucas Bono Mack Foxx Lungren, Daniel on a rule does have substantive policy impli- 189, not voting 20, as follows: cations. It is one of the only available tools Boozman Franks (AZ) E. for those who oppose the Democratic major- [Roll No. 576] Boustany Frelinghuysen Mack Brady (TX) Gallegly Manzullo ity’s agenda and allows those with alter- YEAS—224 Broun (GA) Garrett (NJ) Marchant native views the opportunity to offer an al- Abercrombie Capps DeFazio Brown (SC) Gerlach McCarthy (CA) ternative plan. Ackerman Capuano DeGette Brown-Waite, Gilchrest McCaul (TX) Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speak- Allen Cardoza Delahunt Ginny Gingrey McCotter Altmire Carnahan DeLauro Buchanan Gohmert McCrery er, my understanding is it is my oppor- Andrews Carney Dicks Burton (IN) Goode McHenry tunity now to yield back the balance of Arcuri Carson Dingell Buyer Goodlatte McHugh my time and move the previous ques- Baca Castor Doggett Calvert Granger McKeon Baldwin Chandler Doyle Camp (MI) Graves McMorris tion. Barrow Clarke Edwards (MD) Campbell (CA) Hall (TX) Rodgers The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Bean Clay Edwards (TX) Cantor Hastings (WA) Mica question is on ordering the previous Becerra Cleaver Ellison Capito Hayes Miller (FL) question. Berkley Clyburn Ellsworth Carter Hensarling Miller (MI) The question was taken; and the Berman Cohen Emanuel Castle Herger Miller, Gary Berry Conyers Engel Chabot Hill Moran (KS) Speaker pro tempore announced that Bishop (GA) Cooper Eshoo Childers Hobson Murphy, Tim the ayes appeared to have it. Bishop (NY) Costa Etheridge Coble Hoekstra Musgrave Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. Blumenauer Costello Farr Cole (OK) Hunter Myrick Speaker, on that I demand the yeas Boren Courtney Fattah Conaway Inglis (SC) Neugebauer Boswell Cramer Filner Crenshaw Issa Nunes and nays. Boucher Crowley Foster Cubin Johnson (IL) Paul The yeas and nays were ordered. Boyd (FL) Cuellar Frank (MA) Culberson Johnson, Sam Pearce The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Boyda (KS) Cummings Giffords Davis (KY) Jones (NC) Pence ant to clause 8 of rule XX, further pro- Brady (PA) Davis (AL) Gillibrand Davis, David Jordan Peterson (PA) Braley (IA) Davis (CA) Gonzalez Deal (GA) Keller Petri ceedings on this question will be post- Brown, Corrine Davis (IL) Green, Al Dent King (IA) Pickering poned. Butterfield Davis, Lincoln Green, Gene Diaz-Balart, L. King (NY) Platts

VerDate Aug 31 2005 00:10 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00009 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10SE7.002 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7968 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 Poe Saxton Tiberi Lowey Pascrell Solis Weldon (FL) Wilson (NM) Young (AK) Price (GA) Scalise Turner Lynch Pastor Space Weller Wilson (SC) Young (FL) Pryce (OH) Schmidt Upton Mahoney (FL) Payne Speier Westmoreland Wittman (VA) Putnam Sessions Walberg Maloney (NY) Perlmutter Spratt Whitfield (KY) Wolf Radanovich Shadegg Walden (OR) Markey Pomeroy Stark NOT VOTING—20 Regula Shimkus Walsh (NY) Marshall Price (NC) Stupak Rehberg Shuster Wamp Matheson Rahall Sutton Baird Hulshof Peterson (PA) Renzi Simpson Weldon (FL) Matsui Rangel Tanner Burgess Hunter Pitts Reynolds Smith (NE) Weller McCarthy (NY) Reyes Tauscher Cannon Kennedy Ramstad Rogers (AL) Smith (NJ) Westmoreland McCollum (MN) Richardson Taylor Cazayoux Lee Scott (VA) Rogers (KY) Smith (TX) Whitfield (KY) McDermott Rodriguez Gordon Levin Thompson (CA) Sensenbrenner Rogers (MI) Souder Wilson (NM) McGovern Ross Hinojosa McNulty Thompson (MS) Thornberry Rohrabacher Stearns Wilson (SC) McIntyre Rothman Hodes Peterson (MN) Roskam Sullivan Wittman (VA) McNerney Roybal-Allard Tierney Royce Tancredo Wolf Meek (FL) Ruppersberger Towns ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE Ryan (WI) Terry Young (AK) Meeks (NY) Rush Tsongas The SPEAKER pro tempore (during Udall (CO) Sali Tiahrt Young (FL) Melancon Ryan (OH) the vote). There are 2 minutes remain- Michaud Salazar Udall (NM) NOT VOTING—20 Miller (NC) Sa´ nchez, Linda Van Hollen ing in this vote. Baird Hinojosa Peterson (MN) Miller, George T. Vela´ zquez Burgess Hodes Pitts Mitchell Sanchez, Loretta Visclosky b 1335 Cannon Hulshof Ramstad Mollohan Sarbanes Walz (MN) Mr. WELLER of Illinois changed his Cazayoux Kennedy Scott (VA) Moore (KS) Schakowsky Wasserman Davis, Tom Lee Sensenbrenner Moore (WI) Schiff Schultz vote from ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ Ferguson Levin Thornberry Moran (VA) Schwartz Waters Mr. KIRK changed his vote from Gordon McNulty Murphy (CT) Scott (GA) Watson ‘‘nay’’ to ‘‘yea.’’ Murphy, Patrick Serrano Watt Murtha So the resolution was agreed to. Sestak Waxman b 1325 Nadler Shea-Porter Weiner The result of the vote was announced Napolitano Sherman Welch (VT) as above recorded. Messrs. KINGSTON, WITTMAN of Neal (MA) Shuler Virginia, HALL of Texas, and EHLERS Oberstar Sires Wexler A motion to reconsider was laid on changed their vote from ‘‘yea’’ to Obey Skelton Wilson (OH) the table. Woolsey ‘‘nay.’’ Olver Slaughter Ortiz Smith (WA) Wu f So the previous question was ordered. Pallone Snyder Yarmuth The result of the vote was announced PERSONAL EXPLANATION as above recorded. NAYS—190 Mr. HINOJOSA. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Aderholt Fortenberry Mica Nos. 577 and 576, had I been present, I would question is on the resolution. Akin Fossella Miller (FL) have voted ‘‘yea’’ on 577 and ‘‘yea’’ on 576. The question was taken; and the Alexander Foxx Miller (MI) Bachmann Franks (AZ) Miller, Gary f Speaker pro tempore announced that Bachus Frelinghuysen Moran (KS) the ayes appeared to have it. Barrett (SC) Gallegly Murphy, Tim RURAL VETERANS ACCESS TO Mr. HASTINGS of Washington. Mr. Bartlett (MD) Garrett (NJ) Musgrave Barton (TX) Gerlach Myrick CARE ACT Speaker, on that I demand the yeas Biggert Gilchrest Neugebauer The SPEAKER pro tempore. The un- and nays. Bilbray Gingrey Nunes The yeas and nays were ordered. Bilirakis Gohmert Paul finished business is the vote on the mo- Bishop (UT) Goode Pearce tion to suspend the rules and pass the The SPEAKER pro tempore. This Blackburn Goodlatte Pence will be a 5-minute vote. bill, H.R. 1527, as amended, on which Blunt Granger Petri the yeas and nays were ordered. The vote was taken by electronic de- Boehner Graves Pickering vice, and there were—yeas 223, nays Bonner Hall (TX) Platts The Clerk read the title of the bill. Bono Mack Hastings (WA) Poe 190, not voting 20, as follows: The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Boozman Hayes Porter question is on the motion offered by [Roll No. 577] Boustany Heller Price (GA) Brady (TX) Hensarling Pryce (OH) the gentleman from California (Mr. YEAS—223 Broun (GA) Herger Putnam FILNER) that the House suspend the Abercrombie Conyers Grijalva Brown (SC) Hill Radanovich rules and pass the bill, H.R. 1527, as Ackerman Cooper Gutierrez Brown-Waite, Hobson Regula Allen Costa Hall (NY) Ginny Hoekstra Rehberg amended. Altmire Costello Hare Buchanan Inglis (SC) Reichert This is a 5-minute vote. Andrews Courtney Harman Burton (IN) Issa Renzi The vote was taken by electronic de- Arcuri Cramer Hastings (FL) Buyer Johnson (IL) Reynolds vice, and there were—yeas 417, nays 0, Baca Crowley Herseth Sandlin Calvert Johnson, Sam Rogers (AL) Baldwin Cuellar Higgins Camp (MI) Jones (NC) Rogers (KY) not voting 16, as follows: Barrow Cummings Hinchey Campbell (CA) Jordan Rogers (MI) [Roll No. 578] Bean Davis (AL) Hirono Cantor Keller Rohrabacher Becerra Davis (CA) Holden Capito King (IA) Ros-Lehtinen YEAS—417 Berkley Davis (IL) Holt Carter King (NY) Roskam Abercrombie Blunt Capps Berman Davis, Lincoln Honda Castle Kingston Royce Ackerman Boehner Capuano Berry DeFazio Hooley Chabot Kline (MN) Ryan (WI) Aderholt Bonner Cardoza Bishop (GA) DeGette Hoyer Coble Knollenberg Sali Akin Bono Mack Carnahan Bishop (NY) Delahunt Inslee Cole (OK) Kuhl (NY) Saxton Alexander Boozman Carney Blumenauer DeLauro Israel Conaway LaHood Scalise Allen Boren Carson Boren Dicks Jackson (IL) Crenshaw Lamborn Schmidt Altmire Boswell Carter Boswell Dingell Jackson-Lee Cubin Latham Sessions Andrews Boucher Castle Boucher Doggett (TX) Culberson LaTourette Shadegg Arcuri Boustany Castor Boyd (FL) Donnelly Jefferson Davis (KY) Latta Shays Baca Boyd (FL) Chabot Boyda (KS) Doyle Johnson (GA) Davis, David Lewis (CA) Shimkus Bachmann Boyda (KS) Chandler Brady (PA) Edwards (MD) Johnson, E. B. Davis, Tom Lewis (KY) Shuster Bachus Brady (PA) Childers Braley (IA) Edwards (TX) Kagen Deal (GA) Linder Simpson Baldwin Brady (TX) Clarke Brown, Corrine Ellison Kanjorski Dent LoBiondo Smith (NE) Barrett (SC) Braley (IA) Clay Butterfield Ellsworth Kaptur Diaz-Balart, L. Lucas Smith (NJ) Barrow Broun (GA) Cleaver Capps Emanuel Kildee Diaz-Balart, M. Lungren, Daniel Smith (TX) Bartlett (MD) Brown (SC) Clyburn Capuano Engel Kilpatrick Doolittle E. Souder Barton (TX) Brown, Corrine Coble Cardoza Eshoo Kind Drake Mack Stearns Bean Brown-Waite, Cohen Carnahan Etheridge Kirk Dreier Manzullo Sullivan Becerra Ginny Cole (OK) Carney Farr Klein (FL) Duncan Marchant Tancredo Berkley Buchanan Conaway Carson Fattah Kucinich Ehlers McCarthy (CA) Terry Berman Burgess Conyers Castor Filner Lampson Emerson McCaul (TX) Tiahrt Berry Burton (IN) Cooper Chandler Foster Langevin English (PA) McCotter Tiberi Biggert Butterfield Costa Childers Frank (MA) Larsen (WA) Everett McCrery Turner Bilbray Buyer Costello Clarke Giffords Larson (CT) Fallin McHenry Upton Bilirakis Calvert Courtney Clay Gillibrand Lewis (GA) Feeney McHugh Walberg Bishop (GA) Camp (MI) Cramer Cleaver Gonzalez Lipinski Ferguson McKeon Walden (OR) Bishop (NY) Campbell (CA) Crenshaw Clyburn Green, Al Loebsack Flake McMorris Walsh (NY) Bishop (UT) Cantor Crowley Cohen Green, Gene Lofgren, Zoe Forbes Rodgers Wamp Blumenauer Capito Cubin

VerDate Aug 31 2005 00:10 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00010 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10SE7.003 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE September 10, 2008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H7969 Cuellar Jackson-Lee Oberstar Tiberi Walsh (NY) Westmoreland Burton (IN) Gonzalez McCollum (MN) Culberson (TX) Obey Tierney Walz (MN) Wexler Butterfield Goode McCotter Cummings Jefferson Olver Towns Wamp Whitfield (KY) Buyer Goodlatte McCrery Davis (AL) Johnson (GA) Ortiz Tsongas Wasserman Wilson (NM) Calvert Gordon McDermott Davis (CA) Johnson (IL) Pallone Turner Schultz Wilson (OH) Camp (MI) Granger McGovern Davis (IL) Johnson, E. B. Pascrell Udall (CO) Waters Wilson (SC) Campbell (CA) Graves McHenry Davis (KY) Johnson, Sam Pastor Udall (NM) Watson Wittman (VA) Cantor Green, Al McHugh Davis, David Jones (NC) Paul Upton Watt Wolf Capito Green, Gene McIntyre Davis, Lincoln Jordan Payne Van Hollen Waxman Woolsey Capps Grijalva McKeon Davis, Tom Kagen Pearce Vela´ zquez Weiner Wu Capuano Gutierrez McMorris Deal (GA) Kanjorski Pence Visclosky Welch (VT) Yarmuth Cardoza Hall (NY) Rodgers DeFazio Kaptur Perlmutter Walberg Weldon (FL) Young (AK) Carnahan Hall (TX) McNerney DeGette Keller Peterson (PA) Walden (OR) Weller Young (FL) Carney Hare Meek (FL) Delahunt Kennedy Petri NOT VOTING—16 Carson Harman Meeks (NY) DeLauro Kildee Pickering Carter Hastings (FL) Mica Dent Kilpatrick Platts Baird Hulshof Pitts Castle Hastings (WA) Michaud Diaz-Balart, L. Kind Poe Blackburn Hunter Scott (VA) Castor Hayes Miller (FL) Diaz-Balart, M. King (IA) Pomeroy Cannon Lee Sensenbrenner Chabot Heller Miller (MI) Dicks King (NY) Porter Cazayoux Levin Thornberry Chandler Hensarling Miller (NC) Dingell Kingston Price (GA) Emerson McNulty Childers Herger Miller, Gary Doggett Kirk Price (NC) Hodes Peterson (MN) Clarke Herseth Sandlin Miller, George Donnelly Klein (FL) Pryce (OH) Clay Higgins Mitchell Doolittle Kline (MN) Putnam b 1343 Cleaver Hill Mollohan Doyle Knollenberg Radanovich Clyburn Hinchey Moore (KS) Drake Kucinich Rahall So (two-thirds being in the affirma- Coble Hinojosa Moore (WI) Dreier Kuhl (NY) Ramstad tive) the rules were suspended and the Cohen Hirono Moran (KS) Duncan LaHood Rangel bill, as amended, was passed. Cole (OK) Hobson Moran (VA) Edwards (MD) Lamborn Regula The result of the vote was announced Conaway Hoekstra Murphy (CT) Edwards (TX) Lampson Rehberg Conyers Holden Murphy, Patrick Ehlers Langevin Reichert as above recorded. Cooper Holt Murphy, Tim Ellison Larsen (WA) Renzi The title was amended so as to read: Costa Honda Murtha Ellsworth Larson (CT) Reyes ‘‘A bill to amend title 38, United States Costello Hooley Musgrave Emanuel Latham Reynolds Code, to direct the Secretary of Vet- Courtney Hoyer Myrick Engel LaTourette Richardson Cramer Hunter Nadler English (PA) Latta Rodriguez erans Affairs to conduct a pilot pro- Crenshaw Inglis (SC) Napolitano Eshoo Lewis (CA) Rogers (AL) gram to permit certain highly rural Crowley Inslee Neal (MA) Etheridge Lewis (GA) Rogers (KY) veterans enrolled in the health system Cubin Israel Neugebauer Everett Lewis (KY) Rogers (MI) Cuellar Issa Nunes Fallin Linder Rohrabacher of the Department of Veterans Affairs Culberson Jackson (IL) Oberstar Farr Lipinski Ros-Lehtinen to receive covered health services Cummings Jackson-Lee Obey Fattah LoBiondo Roskam through providers other than those of Davis (AL) (TX) Olver Feeney Loebsack Ross the Department.’’. Davis (CA) Jefferson Ortiz Ferguson Lofgren, Zoe Rothman Davis (IL) Johnson (GA) Pallone Filner Lowey Roybal-Allard A motion to reconsider was laid on Davis (KY) Johnson (IL) Pascrell Flake Lucas Royce the table. Davis, David Johnson, E. B. Pastor Forbes Lungren, Daniel Ruppersberger Stated for: Davis, Lincoln Johnson, Sam Paul Fortenberry E. Rush Mrs. EMERSON. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall Davis, Tom Jones (NC) Payne Fossella Lynch Ryan (OH) Deal (GA) Jordan Pearce Foster Mack Ryan (WI) No. 578, I was unavoidably detained. Had I DeFazio Kagen Pence Foxx Mahoney (FL) Salazar been present, I would have voted ‘‘yea.’’ DeGette Kanjorski Perlmutter Frank (MA) Maloney (NY) Sali Delahunt Kaptur Peterson (PA) Franks (AZ) Manzullo Sa´ nchez, Linda f DeLauro Keller Petri Frelinghuysen Marchant T. Dent Kennedy Pickering Gallegly Markey Sanchez, Loretta VETERANS’ COMPENSATION COST- Diaz-Balart, L. Kildee Platts Garrett (NJ) Marshall Sarbanes OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT ACT OF Diaz-Balart, M. Kilpatrick Poe Gerlach Matheson Saxton 2008 Dicks Kind Pomeroy Giffords Matsui Scalise Dingell King (IA) Porter Gilchrest McCarthy (CA) Schakowsky The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Doggett King (NY) Price (GA) Gillibrand McCarthy (NY) Schiff ALTMIRE). The unfinished business is Donnelly Kingston Price (NC) Gingrey McCaul (TX) Schmidt Doolittle Kirk Pryce (OH) Gohmert McCollum (MN) Schwartz the vote on the motion to suspend the Doyle Klein (FL) Putnam Gonzalez McCotter Scott (GA) rules and pass the Senate bill, S. 2617, Drake Kline (MN) Radanovich Goode McCrery Serrano on which the yeas and nays were or- Dreier Knollenberg Rahall Goodlatte McDermott Sessions Duncan Kucinich Ramstad Gordon McGovern Sestak dered. Edwards (MD) Kuhl (NY) Rangel Granger McHenry Shadegg The Clerk read the title of the Senate Edwards (TX) LaHood Regula Graves McHugh Shays bill. Ehlers Lamborn Rehberg Green, Al McIntyre Shea-Porter The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Ellison Lampson Reichert Green, Gene McKeon Sherman Ellsworth Langevin Renzi Grijalva McMorris Shimkus question is on the motion offered by Emanuel Larsen (WA) Reyes Gutierrez Rodgers Shuler the gentleman from California (Mr. Emerson Larson (CT) Reynolds Hall (NY) McNerney Shuster FILNER) that the House suspend the Engel Latham Richardson Hall (TX) Meek (FL) Simpson English (PA) LaTourette Rodriguez Hare Meeks (NY) Sires rules and pass the Senate bill, S. 2617. Eshoo Latta Rogers (AL) Harman Melancon Skelton This is a 5-minute vote. Etheridge Lewis (CA) Rogers (KY) Hastings (FL) Mica Slaughter The vote was taken by electronic de- Everett Lewis (GA) Rogers (MI) Hastings (WA) Michaud Smith (NE) vice, and there were—yeas 418, nays 0, Fallin Lewis (KY) Rohrabacher Hayes Miller (FL) Smith (NJ) Farr Linder Ros-Lehtinen Heller Miller (MI) Smith (TX) not voting 15, as follows: Fattah Lipinski Roskam Hensarling Miller (NC) Smith (WA) [Roll No. 579] Feeney LoBiondo Ross Herger Miller, Gary Snyder Ferguson Loebsack Rothman Herseth Sandlin Miller, George Solis YEAS—418 Filner Lofgren, Zoe Roybal-Allard Higgins Mitchell Souder Abercrombie Bean Boozman Flake Lowey Royce Hill Mollohan Space Ackerman Becerra Boren Forbes Lucas Ruppersberger Hinchey Moore (KS) Speier Aderholt Berkley Boswell Fortenberry Lungren, Daniel Rush Hinojosa Moore (WI) Spratt Akin Berman Boucher Fossella E. Ryan (OH) Hirono Moran (KS) Stark Alexander Berry Boustany Foster Lynch Ryan (WI) Hobson Moran (VA) Stearns Allen Biggert Boyd (FL) Foxx Mack Salazar Hoekstra Murphy (CT) Stupak Altmire Bilbray Boyda (KS) Frank (MA) Mahoney (FL) Sali Holden Murphy, Patrick Sullivan Andrews Bilirakis Brady (PA) Franks (AZ) Maloney (NY) Sa´ nchez, Linda Holt Murphy, Tim Sutton Arcuri Bishop (GA) Brady (TX) Frelinghuysen Manzullo T. Honda Murtha Tancredo Baca Bishop (NY) Braley (IA) Gallegly Marchant Sanchez, Loretta Hooley Musgrave Tanner Bachmann Bishop (UT) Broun (GA) Garrett (NJ) Markey Sarbanes Hoyer Myrick Tauscher Bachus Blackburn Brown (SC) Gerlach Marshall Saxton Inglis (SC) Nadler Taylor Baldwin Blumenauer Brown, Corrine Giffords Matheson Scalise Inslee Napolitano Terry Barrett (SC) Blunt Brown-Waite, Gilchrest Matsui Schakowsky Israel Neal (MA) Thompson (CA) Barrow Boehner Ginny Gillibrand McCarthy (CA) Schiff Issa Neugebauer Thompson (MS) Bartlett (MD) Bonner Buchanan Gingrey McCarthy (NY) Schmidt Jackson (IL) Nunes Tiahrt Barton (TX) Bono Mack Burgess Gohmert McCaul (TX) Schwartz

VerDate Aug 31 2005 00:10 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00011 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A10SE7.006 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7970 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 Scott (GA) Stearns Walz (MN) b 1354 white-tailed deer, and moose can some- Serrano Stupak Wamp times be spotted, and the surrounding Sessions Sullivan Wasserman IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Sestak Sutton Schultz Accordingly, the House resolved marshes host large flocks of migratory Shadegg Tancredo Waters itself into the Committee of the Whole birds. Shays Tanner Watson In addition to these natural quali- Shea-Porter Tauscher House on the State of the Union for the Watt ties, there are numerous Abenaki In- Sherman Taylor Waxman consideration of the bill (H.R. 3667) to Shimkus Terry dian archeological sites along the Weiner amend the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act Shuler Thompson (CA) Welch (VT) to designate a segment of the floodplain. Shuster Thompson (MS) And the river is well-known for its Simpson Tiahrt Weldon (FL) Missisquoi and Trout Rivers in the Sires Tiberi Westmoreland outstanding recreational opportunities Wexler State of Vermont for study for poten- Skelton Tierney tial addition to the National Wild and as well. It is part of the Northern For- Slaughter Towns Whitfield (KY) est Canoe Trail—a historic 740-mile Smith (NE) Tsongas Wilson (NM) Scenic Rivers System, with Mr. Smith (NJ) Turner Wilson (OH) SALAZAR in the chair. water trail through New York, Smith (TX) Udall (CO) Wilson (SC) The Clerk read the title of the bill. Vermont, Quebec, New Hampshire, and Smith (WA) Udall (NM) Wittman (VA) The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the Maine—and outfitters consider the Snyder Upton Wolf northern part of the river to be the pre- Solis Van Hollen Woolsey rule, the bill is considered read the Souder Vela´ zquez Wu first time. eminent flat-water paddling spot in Space Visclosky Yarmuth The gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Vermont. Speier Walberg Young (AK) GRIJALVA) and the gentleman from It is also renowned for its waterfalls, Spratt Walden (OR) Young (FL) Stark Walsh (NY) Utah (Mr. BISHOP) each will control 30 and the Great Falls on the upper river minutes. is recognized as Vermont’s largest NOT VOTING—15 The Chair recognizes the gentleman undammed waterfall. Baird Lee Pitts from Arizona. Simply put, this river is a superb il- Cannon Levin Scott (VA) Cazayoux McNulty Sensenbrenner Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I lustration of Vermont’s postcard per- Hodes Melancon Thornberry yield myself as much time as I may fect national scenery. Hulshof Peterson (MN) Weller consume. During a hearing on this bill, the ad- ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE H.R. 3667, the Missisquoi and Trout ministration testified in support of the The SPEAKER pro tempore (during Rivers Wild and Scenic River Study bill, but recommended that changes be the vote). There are 2 minutes remain- Act, was introduced by our colleague made to clearly specify which seg- ing in the vote. from Vermont, Representative WELCH. ments should be included in the study, This bill would amend the Wild and as not all of the sections of the river in b 1352 Scenic Rivers Act to authorize the Na- the original bill were appropriate for So (two-thirds being in the affirma- tional Park Service to study specific consideration. They recommended tive) the rules were suspended and the sections of the Missisquoi and Trout other technical changes as well. Senate bill was passed. Rivers in Vermont for their potential The Natural Resources Committee The result of the vote was announced inclusion into the National Wild and amended the bill to respond to those as above recorded. Scenic Rivers System. recommendations and clarified which A motion to reconsider was laid on I want to thank our colleague from sections of the river would be studied the table. Vermont, Congressman WELCH, for his for the wild and scenic attributes. hard work on this measure. This is a Mr. Chairman, H.R. 3667 simply au- f good piece of legislation, which will thorizes a study of this river. It is a help showcase the natural heritage of REMOVAL OF NAME OF MEMBER preliminary step, not a final designa- Vermont. AS COSPONSOR OF H.R. 5977 tion. We are coming upon the 40th anniver- Its enactment would simply trigger a Mr. DEFAZIO. Mr. Speaker, DUNCAN sary of the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act process which will allow the National HUNTER was mistakenly added to the in October. It’s important to celebrate Park Service the opportunity to gather list of cosponsors on H.R. 5977. I ask the legacy of this act, the preservation information from, listen to, and coordi- unanimous consent to have his name of some of our wildest rivers and the nate with State officials and local com- removed. safeguarding of our scenic waterways munities; with farmers, business own- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there for generations to come, and to ac- ers, and river outfitters; and with hunt- objection to the request of the gen- knowledge the essential role that stew- ers, anglers, birders, paddlers, and tleman from Oregon? ardship and a conservation ethic play hikers—all those who value this river. There was no objection. in the management of our Nation’s riv- Only then, after careful consideration f ers and streams. and with input from all the stake- The Missisquoi is a tributary of Lake holders, will the National Park Service GENERAL LEAVE Champlain, located in northern provide recommendations to Congress Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Speaker, I ask Vermont. The Trout is a tributary of about the potential of this river. unanimous consent that all Members the Missisquoi. With its headwaters in That is all the legislation does. It is may have 5 legislative days in which to Lowell, Vermont, the Missisquoi ex- that simple. Let’s not lose sight of revise and extend their remarks and in- tends almost 100 miles, flowing north what this bill is about. clude extraneous material regarding into Quebec, then returning to I urge my colleagues to support H.R. H.R. 3667. Vermont to flow west before finally 3667. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there ending its journey at Lake Champlain. I reserve the balance of my time. As it runs its course through open objection to the request of the gen- pastoral fields, scenic gorges and na- b 1400 tleman from Arizona? tive hardwood forests, the river is a re- Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, There was no objection. markable example of a northeastern I yield myself such time as I may con- f ecosystem. It is bordered by the largest sume, and it will be quite awhile. and perhaps highest quality silver Well, Mr. Chairman, here we are in a MISSISQUOI AND TROUT RIVERS maple floodplain forest remaining in 15-day session. We’re now one-fifth of WILD AND SCENIC RIVER STUDY the State of Vermont. American elm, the way through our final session be- ACT OF 2008 white ash, white oak, and red maple fore we end. The Democrat leaders, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- are found along its banks. who have set the agenda and run this ant to House Resolution 1419 and rule The river is home to diverse fish and floor for almost 2 years now, have had XVIII, the Chair declares the House in wildlife, including native rainbow and 5 weeks in preparation for this day. So the Committee of the Whole House on brown trout, rare freshwater mussels, the first issue of significance, the only the State of the Union for the consider- spiny soft-shell turtles and river otter. issue we may have this week that has ation of the bill, H.R. 3667. While on the river’s banks, bobcat, a rule, the most significant piece of

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When this would it be much more logical for me government, and only costing the tax- new leadership took over the House, on to say, ‘‘Ladies and gentlemen, when payers $300,000 to do it. That’s what day one, when the energy prices start- you open me up, solve the problem’’? we’re doing today. ed to climb and it was $2.22, the topic And that is, indeed, what the American I would like to make a couple of of discussion we had on this floor was people are looking at us to do here points about this particular bill, not congratulating the University of Cali- today is not necessarily find out how necessarily in opposition to it. But one fornia-Santa Barbara soccer team. many bills we can pass on suspension, point that is significant; we talk a When energy reached $4 at the pump, I how much comity we can have, but great deal in government about trans- was here to spend a rollicking hour and how we can solve the problem. parency. It’s important to government a half talking about monkey bites. And To simply pass a political statement to be transparent. It’s good to be trans- today, after our 5-week adjournment, does not make a difference to individ- parent—until it deals with how we after people have been talking to us, uals. We are supposed to be here to try treat people. after our constituents have said what and solve the problem. And it is very One of the things that the Repub- clear that the problem has to be some lican Party has tried to do on almost is affecting them, after 5 weeks of prep- way in which we have an overarching, every bill that has come either to com- aration, what we are proposing to talk comprehensive energy proposal. That is mittee or to the floor that deals with a about today as the significant issue on the problem that we’re facing. We need trail, a heritage area, an historic area the agenda is to study two rivers in to come to this floor and actually en- or a scenic river is to ensure that the Vermont. The only bill we will have courage people to conserve, not by people who will be involved in that with a rule, to study two rivers in mandating conservation efforts, but by area are informed up front about what Vermont. rewarding Americans for conservation may or may not happen to them. Be- And I hate to say this; I’m not op- cause once we go to the next step and posed to it. There’s no reason to be. It’s efforts and they will take it from actually create this wild and scenic fine. The bill is a nice bill. It can be there. We must come to the floor and fi- river, the Federal Government is improved significantly, but there’s nally realize that our problem is supply given—not in this bill, but is given in nothing wrong with it. The question is, and demand, and that we have to in- the existing powers they have—the why are we here talking about that crease production of that supply, that right of condemnation of any of that after 5 weeks of getting prepared to we do not have a logical pattern of land that will be in that area. They talk about significant issues? have almost unlimited rights of ease- I had a couple of my constituents funding alternative energy sources. ment. They always have the ability of come to me. They said what they want- But if we could actually increase the dealing with local officials to create ed to see Congress do is something in a amount of oil and coal and oil shale zoning ordinances that have a huge im- bipartisan way; that we should come and natural gas, that we could use the pact on the people in those areas. back here and show that we can work royalties this government would then Almost always these studies are done together. Indeed, the Senators have al- create to actually fund a comprehen- with small groups. And then citizens ready told us that there is only a bipar- sive energy program for alternative en- will come back to us afterwards and tisan energy plan of theirs, that’s the ergies—for solar, for wind power, for say we were unaware of what was actu- only thing that can be passed, there- anything else that happens to be ally happening at this time. The dairy fore, we should come together and sup- there—if we simply decided to use an farmers along this river—who may or port what they are trying to do in the ‘‘all of the above’’ approach. We can may not need protection and may or spirit of bipartisanship, not only be- solve our problem in the emergency, may not be happy and satisfied with tween two political parties, but be- for the beginning, for the present time, what will result to them—may or may tween two branches of Congress. I am as well as coming up with a long-term not have any idea what will happen as sure maybe someday this week we strategy for the future that actually they go through this study. might even have another energy bill would be funded. The first year I was here in Congress proposed for discussion on this floor, We could finally realize that this I passed a wilderness bill. I made sure and I’m sure somebody will say this is country does not have an infrastruc- that I went to every single property the only thing we can pass; let us now ture that will allow energy to be moved owner in that area that would be im- embrace this in a spirit of bipartisan- from one part of the country to the pacted by that wilderness bill, even the ship so that we can show that we can other. There are good friends in New guy who was dead and had no heirs, work together. England who will face high costs of which was a neat trick. But we went to Sometimes I have the feeling that we heating their homes this fall. We have every one of them to make sure they on this floor believe that if we toast a good pipeline that goes, but it stops were well aware in advance of what was one another or we slap one another on before it ever gets to their part of the to take place. And yet when we tried to the back or we have congratulatory country. add an amendment, both in committee comity, that that, indeed, is the end of We need to solve those problems. We and once again before the Rules Com- the discussion; that is the goal, not the need to make sure we have more refin- mittee, to make sure that everyone means to reach some kind of discus- eries. We need to make sure we do who may be impacted by this new des- sion; when the end should be, have we something on the electric grid. And we ignation and this study was made solved the problem? are not. That is the solution to the aware and they had to respond affirma- We have now had eight votes over 3 problem for the American people. tively that they wished to be part of days on this floor, each of them getting We need to finally realize that the fu- the study, it was again rejected. around 400 plus votes. That is biparti- ture of this country is not going to be Why do we not treat Americans with sanship, that is comity, that is coming solved by bringing experts into Wash- respect? We will pass these types of together. But have we solved what the ington to sit around a room and come provisions to empower government, but needs of the American people are? up with an idea, but the ability of we will not ask the citizens who will be Those eight votes, we’ve named three America to solve its problem rests with impacted by our decisions to be part of post offices, we said we’re against hun- the people out there. Because within this particular process. It’s something ger and we’re for the Red Cross. That’s the American people, without their that used to be standard language that good. But that does not solve the prob- soul and heart, is the ability and the we would add to these types of provi- lems plaguing Americans. creativity to come up with real solu- sions, and it should be added again. If I was to go to a hospital and I was tions if we just empower them to find That’s a flaw. on the gurney being rushed into the those solutions and then reward them

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We have to unravel the relation- izona and in Vermont to save our riv- to our problem is that the next time we ship between Big Oil and the adminis- ers and to do what is going to preserve lose 84,000 jobs it is not exacerbated by tration so that the consumer, the aver- our country and leave behind legacies the lack of energy; that the next time age Joe out there, will get the kind of like President Teddy Roosevelt did an airline doesn’t have enough energy break and attention that he needs and with the National Park Service that we to run 100 planes, they don’t have to she needs with regard to energy costs revere and enjoy, then we don’t deserve fire 1,100 people because of it; that the and the rising cost all around us. the vote of confidence that we get from cab driver in Washington, D.C. who Having said that, let me now turn to the folks who send us here. We can do now drives 2 hours extra every day be- the sponsor of this good piece of legis- both. cause he needs that to provide enough lation, the gentleman from Vermont, Now my friend from Utah has essen- funds for the new energy he has to pro- Congressman WELCH, for as much time tially made an argument that there is vide could actually be back at home as he may consume. more important business to be done, as meeting his kids after school the way Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Thank you, if that suggests we don’t have time to he used to; or that we provide enough Mr. Chairman. I very much appreciate do other important business about pro- energy in here so the father in Virginia the excellent work you did and your el- tecting and preserving our environ- can finally go with his son to a father oquent description of a beautiful river. ment and having mutual respect for and son outing; or the family in Mary- If I have any say about it, we’re going the particular concerns, in this case, of land can finally have enough energy so to make you an honorary Vermonter Vermont. they can re-enroll their daughters in and bring you down that river and b 1415 dance and gymnastics; so that school make you paddle your way from one kids in the middle of this country can end to the other and have you see for But it’s that same comity that has finally make it to field trips this year; yourself how beautiful what you de- allowed us to come forward and step up or the teachers in our districts scribed really is. Thank you. as Vermonters and Arizonans to help throughout this country will not find I want to respond to some of the the folks in the Midwest from their their salaries to be depressed or in comments. flood and to respond to the gulf coast some cases slashed because of unusual Mr. Chairman, my opinion is that with the damage that they sustained. and unexpected energy costs in their one of the greatest Presidents of the It’s political. That’s what we know. districts; so that home heating oil will United States was Theodore Roosevelt. The reality is our friends on the not drive people out of existence; so He came to the Presidency when his other side had 12 years in control here the farmer in the field will have predecessor was assassinated. It was a and their energy policy was one thing: enough energy to put in diesel in his time of great turmoil, social and labor give tax breaks to oil companies. You tractors to produce the food so that unrest, a need for corporate reform, can’t make that up. Oil companies are truckers will have enough energy to trust busting. President Roosevelt had doing well. I don’t begrudge them their drive them to market so that the his hands full taking on those eco- profits. But why do you reach into the prices of food that we have to pick up nomic challenges. taxpayers’ pocket and ask taxpayers to at those markets will not be spiraling He was a war President. The skir- give the most profitable corporations this winter and this next year. And all mish in Cuba and the Philippines were in the world, running a mature indus- of those is what we should be talking still very much alive, and he had to try, doing well, why do we ask the tax- about. deal with that as President. Very seri- payers to give them $13 billion? When The river is nice; it’s okay. The study ous issues with the Supreme Court. you reveal that fact, they don’t even is okay. But it is not where we should And in the midst of all of that he still know how to respond because you can’t be at this particular time because it found time to be a peacemaker and was make that kind of stuff up. doesn’t solve the problem. the winner of the Nobel Prize for the So this House of Representatives, There are a lot of rich people in this work that he did in bringing together under the leadership that now is being body. For them, this energy crisis is an the Soviet and Japanese conflict and castigated for a failure of leadership, annoyance. But for those people on helping those folks resolve the end of has repeatedly passed legislation fixed incomes, those people at the bot- that war. against the objections, almost unani- tom of the scale, those people in the But Theodore Roosevelt was also a mous, of our friends on the other side, middle class, we’re not talking to them person who respected and did more, to stop filling up the Strategic Petro- about energy policy. We’re talking perhaps, than anyone else to protect leum Reserve, to squeeze out the specu- about the way they cook their food, our environment. And amidst his re- lative premium in the price of a gallon the way they heat their homes, wheth- sponsibilities, where he had to simulta- of gas at the pump. That can provide er they have a job or not. some short-term relief. We did that. We Three days into the last 15 days of neously deal with enormous economic passed comprehensive energy reform, this session, and the most significant anxiety in this country, when he had to issue is a study bill on two rivers in deal with foreign affairs that involved again, against the objections of our Vermont. This country is aching for making America a strong country and friends on the other side. We took away legislation that will nourish the body bringing together peace in other coun- the tax breaks from the oil companies, politic, and yet we continue to put up, tries, he would never, ever, busy as he not because oil companies are a target. day after day on this body, pieces of was, urgent as his demands were, belit- They’re doing important work. They legislation that are as nutritional as tle the work of the House of Represent- know how to do their work and they cotton candy. We need to do it dif- atives when they were taking up what know how to do it well. But why in the ferently. is now being characterized as a ‘‘waste- world would our friends on the other But, on the plus side, we will prob- of-time bill’’ because it involves two side want to give $13 billion in tax ably do this bill in a bipartisan way. rivers in the State of Vermont. He breaks to a mature and profitable in- Doesn’t it make you feel proud? wouldn’t do it. He’s a bigger man than dustry when that money comes di- Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance that. rectly out of the pockets of American of my time. He reflects the leadership that we consumers who need that money in Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I’m can provide to the American people their pocket to pay the price at the encouraged by the newfound populism where we simultaneously take on the pump? They’ve resisted that. They op- of my good friend from Utah. And I challenges, as President Roosevelt did, posed it. agree that a comprehensive approach but also pay attention to the posterity Our friends on the other side are also to energy has to be something that this that is our responsibility to leave be- aware that even though we have passed Congress accomplishes within the hind. legislation against their objection, it week. This does not negate what I be- I just want to say as a Vermonter, I has gotten stalled in the other body, lieve to be a good piece of legislation want to say as a Member of the House threatened with veto by the President, that is before us. of Representatives that if we can’t find we’re ready to do it again. Our motto is

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Jobs, good and essentially caved into the interests iors in Vermont are suffering and American jobs. of the oil companies. they’re going to suffer with high prices Explain that to the folks in Michi- So, Mr. Chairman, as a Vermonter of heating oil this coming winter. gan. Explain that to the folks in Ohio and the sponsor of this bill, I want to Farmers, I have got farmers that lost who are struggling right now. If you object to what is really a rhetorical their crops just last week, and they’re want good American jobs, you get a and political device, and that is ridi- faced with high diesel costs and high good energy policy, an all-of-the-above culing the importance of these two riv- gasoline costs and high fertilizer costs energy policy. An energy policy that ers to the people of my State for a par- because this country doesn’t have an looks at oil exploration in the Outer tisan political argument. Energy is in- energy policy. What are our priorities? Continental Shelf and Alaska, shale credibly important and we have deliv- This is the most important bill we have oil, nuclear energy, looks at building ered. We’ve put substantive proposals done so far this week, and it’s a study refining capacity, and also invests in on the floor. They have been debated and it’s a study based on what the sub- renewables and alternatives. That’s and they have been passed. They’ve committee found there to be no risk in- what we’re advocating over here. We been stalled in the Senate or threat- volved. So I have to question what are want to work in a bipartisan fashion. ened with veto by the President. We’re the priorities of this Democratically But, no, the other side, our friends prepared to do it again. We’re also pre- led Congress. across the aisle are finding ways to pared to reach out to the other side be- We in Louisiana have been bearing avoid the issue. That’s not what the cause we all know that in the end if we the burden of providing energy in this American public wants today. Every- are going to be successful, we do have country for quite a long time, and we body knows what the polls are showing. to work together, particularly where have seen our coasts, our precious wet- Seven out of ten Americans want a we have divided government. But it lands devastated, and now we are try- comprehensive energy policy. How can takes two sides, two bodies, and a ing to rebuild those wetlands. Is that a you go home and explain to the sen- President to be willing to do that, and priority? It’s certainly a priority to iors, an elderly woman back in your it has not been forthcoming. me. But clearly getting an energy pol- district who can’t afford gasoline for So I want to go back to a very simple icy has to be one of the top priorities her car to go to the grocery store to fact. This legislation is about allowing for this country. We should all recog- pick up a few essential items, so then Vermonters to have a study for scenic nize that. And I think my colleagues she has to carpool with three others status on two rivers that are very pre- across the aisle, after spending August and now they can’t afford it? cious to us, places where moms and back home hearing from folks in their I’m all for conservation. I believe dads have taken they are kids, taught districts, would understand that. conservation is a critical part of our them how to hunt, taught them how to We in Louisiana know that energy energy policy, but yet conservation is fish, taught them how to be families, policy and environmental policy and not enough. We need a real energy pol- taught them responsibility. And there economic policy all march together. icy, an all-of-the-above approach. is a place for us and a time for us to do That’s good policy. We’re also talking Our friends across the aisle are pro- that as well as face these large issues about jobs. Mr. Chairman, every time I posing all kinds of things that we’re like energy, like the war in Iraq, like fly home on the little stretch between hearing about. They’re proposing a pol- redefining our foreign policy. So this is Houston and Lafayette, Louisiana, I icy that permanently locks up 80 per- a very important piece of legislation to run into folks from Louisiana who are cent, 80 percent of American energy on us, and I, as one Member of Congress, coming back or going to countries all the Outer Continental Shelf. Our object to having it be held hostage to over the globe, Equatorial Guinea, An- friends are proposing permanently what is essentially a political game gola, Thailand, Vietnam, countries locking up 1 trillion barrels of oil from that’s been going on far too long. throughout the Middle East, Louisian- oil shale in the inner-mountain west. And I want to thank the chairman ians with oil and gas expertise who How can you explain that to the Amer- for the tremendous work that he’s wish they could be back in this country ican public? What’s your explanation? done. And, Vermonters, thank you as closer to their families. No, they’re How can you say we want to perma- well. having to travel all over the globe and nently lock up more than 10 billion Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, be away from their families for months barrels of oil on Alaska’s remote North I appreciate the discussion especially on end to make a living in the energy Slope? And how do you explain no to about Teddy Roosevelt, a famous Presi- industry. These are jobs that were lost nuclear power when countries like dent. But I would remind my friend to this country. These were manufac- France rely on nuclear power for 80 that William Howard Taft, who came turing jobs that were lost to this coun- percent of their electricity? People after him, created more national parks, try in the 1980s when a Democratically around this country are struggling created more land in the national for- controlled Congress imposed a windfall with high utility bills. ests, and busted more trusts in 4 years profits tax on the oil and gas industry. We ought to be looking at ways to di- than Roosevelt did in 8. The difference And what’s their answer today? Well, versify our sources of energy and put- was he didn’t use public relations. let’s get rid of the manufacturing tax ting this country on a sound footing, Our issue is still the same. Talk credit on oil and gas companies. Let’s putting America first. How can our about these issues after we have had a single out the oil and gas companies. friends across the aisle do nothing debate on real issues for a real solution Well, on one hand you say you want about constructing clean coal and on the real problem of energy that af- good jobs and good manufacturing jobs, looking at that type of new tech- fects real Americans here on the floor. but then you propose policies that nology? This is critical. And yet again That should be our priority. drive these jobs out of this country. I they propose additional tax increases With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield don’t get it. I just don’t get it, and the on the energy companies that are try- such time as he may consume to the folks back home in Louisiana don’t get ing to provide energy for this country. gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. it. I just don’t get it. I don’t get it. BOUSTANY). I talked about the environment. Mr. Chairman, I think everybody in Mr. BOUSTANY. Mr. Chairman, I Down in my district we’ve got a beau- this Chamber ought to look at that thank my colleague from Utah for tiful stretch of wetlands and marsh. plaque up there. Look at that plaque. yielding, and I stand with him on these It’s a bird habitat for ducks, a breeding It quotes from Daniel Webster, who issues. ground for ducks. White Lake, a beau- says, ‘‘Let us develop the resources of Mr. Chairman, this is a matter of set- tiful lake, a pristine lake, is down our land.’’ The resources of our land. ting priorities. I just got back Monday there in Vermilion Parish. That land is We shouldn’t be holding back. This is

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I have got to go back home and is like people standing there at the more dependent on oil than we were explain why I spent a week up here edge of the technology revolution when George Bush came into office. while folks back in Louisiana are yelling, Electric typewriters, electric That’s true. But where have you been struggling after another hurricane and typewriters. for 8 long years? I have got to explain to those folks We are now right at the edge of this I welcome you to this discussion. But that I came up here and we didn’t do wonderful, wonderful future for our I think we should have the discussion anything substantively in this Con- country. If you decide to join us and in- in the appropriate place and not block gress and we didn’t do anything that vest in an Apollo-type program, a pro- every piece of legislation that is com- they care most about: getting an en- gram for energy independence, a pro- ing through right now, and let’s have a ergy policy. gram that would allow us to be inde- comprehensive energy plan. And the Read that plaque again: ‘‘Let us de- pendent of these nations, to have an first thing the other side could do to velop the resources of our land.’’ economic base here in this country, to show their good faith in this would be Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I re- create jobs in a green technology, and to vote against the tax subsidies for alize the political statements that are to have renewables. the oil companies. If we really want to being made by my friends on the other One of your own party, T. Boone protect the American taxpayer, why side of the aisle. I understand them. I Pickens, who has talked often about, don’t we stop forcing them to subsidize think relative to this bill I don’t appre- and has run ads, by the way, about the oil companies? That would be my first ciate them, but I really believe that fact that we can’t drill our way out of question. Thank you. there has to be an understanding that this, that we only hold 2 to 3 percent of Mr. BISHOP of Utah. In my 6 long our leadership and the Democrats on the oil and that we are consuming 25 years of being here on this floor, and I this side of the aisle can actually walk percent. Yet I haven’t heard the word welcome my freshman colleague from and chew gum at the same time, that ‘‘conserve’’ over there until just now. I New Hampshire, we have been involved heard one mention it. we can deal with an issue that we are in many issues that deal with energy, We’ve ignored conservation, we’ve ig- dealing with here today that affects and I found that what was not stopped nored wind, we’ve ignored solar, we’ve the State of Vermont and deal with the by filibuster in the Senate, was stopped ignored all kinds of renewables. And by litigation in the court, and that is very pertinent issue which is the en- when we have the drill, baby drill plan part of the overall reform we are talk- ergy policy for this country. and drill baby, drill only. Well, you ing about, which is why we desperately With that, Mr. Chairman, let me know what? We have simply got to face need a real vote on a real solution, the yield to the gentlewoman from New these issues. We should have faced American Energy Act. Hampshire (Ms. SHEA-PORTER) for such them 8 long years ago, and we should May I just inquire how much time we time as she may consume. have faced them when I got here in this have remaining. Ms. SHEA-PORTER. Mr. Chairman, 110th Congress. But I certainly wel- The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. ROSS). first let me say that I support the bill come you to the debate now. The gentleman from Utah has 101⁄2 min- in front of us, for these two rivers in So why don’t we do this? Why don’t utes remaining. Vermont. And I think that it’s unfortu- we first take away the subsidies from Mr. BISHOP of Utah. With that, I nate that we can’t seem to work on the the oil company and invest in renew- yield such time as he may consume to particular bills in front of us because of ables? I think that would be a good the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. the issue that the friends on the other start to show Americans that we hear WESTMORELAND). side of the aisle keep bringing up. them. Why don’t we take the specu- Mr. WESTMORELAND. I want to What I find particularly disturbing is lators out of the market, since we are thank my friend from Utah for giving that for 8 years we have had two all very concerned about the price of me this opportunity to come and to oilmen in the White House with no en- energy. I am particularly concerned speak. As I was listening to the ergy policy and my colleagues on the about what is happening in New Hamp- gentlelady from New Hampshire speak, other side have sat silent for 2 long shire, where the oil is so high and the she must not have read the American years, nothing since I have been here winter is coming on us. I am concerned Energy Act. My colleagues and I, at talking about it, 8 years since Presi- that the President of the United States least about 135 of my Republican col- dent Bush has come into office, and put in his budget a cut in the Low In- leagues and I, have been coming back suddenly in the waning hours of this come Heating Energy Assistance Pro- to this floor ever since August 1, when session, they are now talking about an gram. Speaker PELOSI decided to adjourn this energy policy. So why don’t we do this? Why don’t Congress and go on a 5-week vacation I certainly welcome them to this. I we take the speculators out of the mar- rather than address the energy crisis think we do need an energy policy. I ket? Why don’t we say Drill now, drill, that we have in this country. wish they had started talking about an to the oil companies who had 68 million Mr. Chairman, it’s awfully strange energy policy 8 long years ago. What acres and they would not drill on. That that all of the debate, most all of the they allowed to happen in the past 8 would be helpful. debate that I have heard on the floor years is for us to lose ground on an There’s a number of things that we today, has dealt with energy. Yet we Apollo-type project to bring a real en- could have done, and I agree with you refuse to bring an energy bill to the ergy policy to the United States. They that we are at the last moments here, floor under regular order. have allowed the oil companies to reap and it’s outrageous. But we have the I think what also needs to be said, the greatest profits in history while future of America in our hands. We Mr. Chairman, and I hope the Amer- they have allowed the American tax- have the ability, as T. Boone Pickens ican people are picking up on this, is payer to suffer while they subsidize said, to take the wind from—he named that the Democrats have been in con- these oil companies. That’s just out- Sweetwater, Texas to Hastings, Ne- trol of this Congress for the last 20 rageous that they are now at this point braska—we have great wind capacity, months. The Democrats have been the 8 long years into it and getting near an and to take solar from Sweetwater, majority, the controlling party in this election and they’re suddenly talking Texas to California, and catch that. Congress for the last 20 months. In the about the lack of an energy policy. And biomass. And, yes, drilling. Drill- House, they have 236 Members, I be- ing on land and leases that we have. lieve. Close to it. I think the Repub- b 1430 Why didn’t you agree to take the licans have 199. It only takes 218 to Thank you, gentlemen, for bringing leases away if the oil companies pass any legislation in this body. In this to our attention. We have been wouldn’t drill? Why not? Why not do fact, you can have a good idea, you can speaking about this lack of an energy something except stand there with the have a great idea, you can have a life- policy for a long time. same, tired drill, baby drill. saving, wonderful, world-changing idea,

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Skyrocketing energy So I guess my question to the major- the Third District of Georgia, but con- prices. ity is that rather than continually lay- stituents, people, citizens all over this Now what we have got to do, and I ing the blame on the executive branch country are hurting. So, hopefully, we can’t believe that my friend from Utah, of our government, and most all Amer- will get to see this commonsense plan when he says that what we need to be icans know that we do have three at some point in the near future. doing is drilling here, and drilling now, branches of government. We have got Mr. GRIJALVA. I yield 3 minutes to really wants to drill in the middle of the executive branch, we have got the the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Salt Lake City or in any of the glo- judicial branch, and we have got the PERLMUTTER). rious places in Utah. This is something legislative branch. The legislative Mr. PERLMUTTER. I thank the gen- where it has got to be sensible energy branch, who the Democrats are in con- tleman from Arizona for allotting me policy. It’s a comprehensive energy trol of, have the responsibility for pass- this time. I just want to bring us back policy, which includes oil and gas. ing laws. So we can’t help it. It’s not to basics, for one thing. Whether it’s The Acting CHAIRMAN. The time of our fault. If the unemployment was 4.2 the Kiwanis or the Cub Scouts or the the gentleman has expired. percent, Mr. Chairman, when your PTA, ordinarily you talk about the Mr. GRIJALVA. I yield the gen- party took the majority, and now it’s issue that is at hand. And the issue tleman 30 additional seconds. 6.1, we can’t help that. This comes that is at hand, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. PERLMUTTER. It includes oil from the legislation that you had 218 and to my friends on the other side of and gas, it includes coal, it includes votes for to pass. the aisle, is we are talking about the nuclear, it includes renewable energy, Now we can’t help it because gas was Missisquoi and the Trout Rivers, the and it includes overall energy effi- $2.06 a gallon when you took over, and Wild and Scenic Rivers. ciency, because a barrel of oil saved is that it’s over $4, or close to $4 a gallon I want to thank my friend, Mr. a barrel of oil earned. A Btu saved is a now. It’s been as high as $4.50. We can’t WELCH, for bringing this matter before Btu earned. help that. You were in control. You had the House of Representatives as to try- We need a comprehensive plan. And the 218 votes to do anything you want- ing to maintain wild and scenic to pull a bad joke on the American ed to do. streams in Vermont. That is what is public of drilling here, drilling now, But what has happened? The Demo- being debated. That is the bill on the drill, baby drill, is simply a sham, and cratic majority decided that rather floor, although our friends would like we cannot go forward with that alone. than have a bill that would go through to completely change the subject. We need a comprehensive energy plan, regular order and have subcommittee Whether it’s the Kiwanis or the PTA and that is what the Democrats are hearings and committee hearings and or the boardroom or the Cub Scouts, going to provide. be brought to the floor under a rule you try to have a relevant conversa- Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, that would be an open rule that would tion. But they decided that is not the I reserve the balance of my time. allow input for all 435 Members and the issue. They must love this bill. They Mr. GRIJALVA. Let me yield 3 min- seven delegates from U.S. territories to would rather talk about something utes to my colleague from Ohio, Con- be able to have amendments on the else. So let’s talk about the something gresswoman MARCY KAPTUR. floor to speak to what their constitu- else, which is energy. Ms. KAPTUR. I thank the gentleman ents had felt and what they had been Now my friends on the other side of for yielding, and also rise in support of told at home, they have been brought the aisle, the GOP, the Republicans, in the National Wild and Scenic Rivers under a suspension rule. 2005 passed what they said was a land- measure related to including Mr. Chairman, a suspension does not mark energy bill. I want to quote the Vermont’s Missisquoi and Trout Rivers have to go through committee. It does former Speaker of the House, Dennis for further assessment. not have a rule. There’s 20 minutes of Hastert, on July 28, 2005: Let me also say I think it’s really sad debate for each side. And then you ‘‘Americans need this (GOP energy) that our GOP colleagues here are try- have to have two-thirds of the vote. legislation to lower their energy costs, ing to divert attention from this bill Well, these have been snake oil or to drive economic growth and job cre- and trying to change the subject to shams or, I guess, covers to hide under, ation, and to promote greater energy something that they have a pretty dis- maybe, that you could go home and say independence.’’ mal record on. that you had voted for an energy bill. The minority whip, Mr. BLUNT, said 1445 I say let’s bring it under regular on that same day: b order. If you bring it under regular ‘‘This (GOP energy) plan relies on In fact, since the Bush administra- order, let’s give us an opportunity to simple economics. If we create a larger tion took office, our country is now im- have a motion to recommit, or an al- market for a greater amount of gaso- porting over 1 billion more barrels of ternative. But the best thing to do, the line, we’ll help drive prices down. This oil a year, the price of gasoline has thing that I think the American people proposal moves the country one step doubled, as every American knows, and want to happen, is an open rule come closer to lowering the sky-high price of oil company profits are through the to the floor, where we can all—this is a gas for consumers.’’ roof. Exxon alone, Exxon alone last House where we are supposed to come The President, a few days later, said, year, made $40.6 billion in profits, one and debate and share ideas. Let this ‘‘I am confident that one day Ameri- company; BP, $20 billion; Shell, $31 bil- House work its will. Let’s vote on cans will look back on this (GOP en- lion in profits; Conoco, $15.5 billion; every amendment that comes to the ergy) plan as a vital step toward a Chevron, $17.1 billion. That is a total, floor. Limit it to one amendment per more secure and more prosperous Na- just of those companies, of $125.3 bil- person. tion that is less dependent on foreign lion. If we have to stay here over the sources of energy.’’ They are loving every minute of this, weekend, let’s hear all the good ideas Well, ladies and gentlemen, that en- friends. And the question for America that will come out of this place. ergy plan that was promoted by the is, do we want our people to be depend- There’s not just a certain number of Republicans and supported by the ent on a diminishing global resource people in this body that have good President back in 2005 I think now that becomes more precious every day, ideas, there’s a lot of good ideas that turns out to be a really bad joke on the where blood for oil is now shed around come from a lot of people, and there’s American people. We have had our the world? That is the real question. a lot of people here who have good prices of oil and gas going up by almost Are we going to grow up and live in the ideas that never get to share them. double, sometimes during this summer 21st century? It is a real choice.

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For example, our bills for but once she said the Senate is a prob- going to believe the people who are extension of our renewable energy lem that should be working, how can I pro-American energy, or are you going credits for solar and for wind, they are reject that? to believe the people who are anti- sitting over in the Senate. Do you I would, though, remind you, if you American energy? The Democrats want know why? There isn’t a majority of really want to help Exxon, don’t do us to remain dependent on foreign oil. Democratic votes over there. The Sen- anything. Sixty-eight percent of all the They are not interested in creating ad- ate is divided. It is 49D–49R. Our Sen- oil and 87 percent of all the natural gas ditional American energy. And you can ators are sitting on their hands over is being drilled by small entrepre- see that. there, half of them. I would say to the neurial companies. If you want com- Let’s talk some more about quotes. gentleman who says we have got petition, allow those to be successful. Here is another one: ‘‘This leadership enough votes here, go get your friends Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to team will create the most honest, most over there to put their blood on the the gentlewoman from North Carolina open, most ethical Congress in his- line over on the other side for the (Ms. FOXX). tory.’’ Speaker-elect NANCY PELOSI. American people. They are wasting an Ms. FOXX. Mr. Chairman, I thank What have we had? Closed rules. The awful lot of time. my colleague from Utah for his great appropriations committees aren’t even I want to say too that the President comments. meeting, because they are scared to has to sign these bills. Look what he You know, I like Congressman PETER death that we will bring up bills that did to the agriculture bill, one of the WELCH. We are on opposite ends of the they will have to vote on that they most important bills we have brought aisle philosophically, but he is a nice know will pass because their Members to this floor to try to create a new guy. But I will tell you, I would like to are feeling the heat in their districts. biofuels industry for this country, be able to support this issue of the Wild Their constituents are hurting too. which rural America wanted and wants and Scenic Rivers Act. However, what This is not a Republican issue. It is and is leading into an energy inde- the American people want are lower not a Democratic issue. It is an Amer- pendent future for this country. What gas prices, so they will have a chance ican issue. We begged our Democratic did the President of the United States to go and visit wild and scenic rivers. colleagues to come and join us, vote do? He vetoed it. We had to override Right now, the Democrats have let the with us, speak to the American people the veto here and in the other body. gas prices get so high, nobody can go about this. She knows they will vote That is the kind of mess we have got on vacation, nobody can visit these riv- for additional American energy. There here in Washington. ers, nobody can do the kinds of things is no bill on the floor this week. Why? Boy, do we ever need a working ma- they want to do. Because her caucus is so divided. The jority in the Senate. And we need a But the good news is during the pro-American energy Democrats want bigger working majority here in the month of August, when Republicans to vote on increasing supply. They are House to do what the American people stayed here working while the Demo- not being allowed to do that. sent us here to do, and that is to help crats went on vacation, we alerted the Let me speak about the farm bill just our children have a better future, to American people to the fact that we a little bit. Ethanol is creating a major have an independent energy future for are here trying to bring down prices problem for us in this country. We are this country, and not to try to say that and that the Democrats are in charge not allowing ethanol to come in here ‘‘business as usual’’ is the course of the of this Congress. It is not the President from other countries. We could get it hour. Oh, no. Our people expect us to of the United States who can take ac- in here cheaper than we are producing play the piano on all keys. tion. He has already taken action. He it in this country. They will not allow Where have you been for the last 8 lifted the moratorium on Outer Conti- that. That was part of that farm bill years and where has the President of nental Shelf drilling. that the President vetoed. the United States been for the last 8 Let me tell you, my colleague just Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I years? before my colleague from Ohio was giv- yield 3 minutes to the chairman of our The Acting CHAIRMAN. The time of ing quotes, but let me give you a quote. full Resources Committee, the gen- the gentlewoman has expired. Here is the best one, and the one that tleman from West Virginia (Mr. RA- Mr. GRIJALVA. I yield the gentle- we are going to come back to over and HALL). woman an additional 30 seconds. over and over again. Speaker PELOSI, Mr. RAHALL. Mr. Chairman, I want The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentle- when she was asking for the majority to express my appreciation to the dis- woman from Ohio is recognized for 30 in this House: ‘‘Democrats have a plan tinguished subcommittee chairman, seconds. to lower gas prices. Join Democrats, Mr. GRIJALVA, for bringing this bill for- Ms. KAPTUR. I thank you very much who are working to lower gas prices ward, and the ranking member, Mr. for yielding. now.’’ BISHOP. Also I want to thank Mr. Let me just say that I represent one What happened? Gas prices have dou- PETER WELCH for the tremendous lead- of the solar centers of this country, one bled under the Democrats. They can do ership he has provided. of the three top places that are invent- their best to blame this on the Repub- Certainly I am in support of the leg- ing the future for our people. We need licans. But they are in charge, and we islation. I recognize that much of the the help of the President of the United are going to continue to inform the debate that has occurred thus far has States. We don’t need him to hold up American people that Democrats are in not really been on the legislation renewable energy credits in this body charge of the Congress, that they have itself, but rather has surrounded the or over in the Senate. Our people have the ability to do something. energy issue. As all of my colleagues seen the future, and they are building Republicans believe in alternatives. on both sides of the aisle know, we are it. We don’t need to have this adminis- Certainly we want solar, wind, hydro, working toward bringing an energy bill tration produce an energy plan back in all the alternatives. We believe in con- to the floor of the House of Representa- their first year that didn’t even include servation. Republicans are the original tives in the very near future. agriculture, not even a mention of it, conservationists. But we cannot get to I have heard a lot of finger pointing. and renewables, and then defunded re- those places immediately, and we can We all have been doing that, are guilty newables for most of the years that bring down the price of gasoline by pro- of that, for the last several months on they sat over there on Pennsylvania viding additional supply. this issue. Each side is trying to blame Avenue. Democrats think they can ignore and the other for the high price of gas We do need new leadership. We need a maybe even repeal the basic law of eco- today, ignoring the fact that the price working majority in the Senate. And nomics, supply and demand. We have to of gas when President Bush took office we need a greater working majority have more supply. They are preventing was $1.47, both houses of Congress were

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With that, Mr. the category, if not 99.9 percent of my Chairman, I will yield back my last 30 AMENDMENT NO. 1 OFFERED BY MR. GRIJALVA colleagues, that want to see all of our seconds. The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in domestic sources of energy used. I dare Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I order to consider amendment No. 1 say that in the not-too-distant future, yield myself the balance of my time. printed in House Report 110–834. when we do address the energy bill, if Mr. Chairman, in conclusion let me Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I rise not in the next several days on the say I associate myself with the com- to offer the amendment as the designee floor of this body, that we will see the ments that our chairman, Mr. RAHALL, for Mr. RAHALL. most broad-ranging, most comprehen- made about transparency and about The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk sive energy bill come to this floor that the deeply needed reform in that agen- will designate the amendment. The text of the amendment is as fol- we have had in several years. It will be cy, given the disclosure and the inves- lows: an all-of-the-above. It will be a start tigation by the Inspector General. This toward progressive, comprehensive en- is a good piece of legislation. I urge its Amendment No. 1 offered by Mr. GRIJALVA: ergy legislation. Before subparagraph (A) in the quoted ma- approval. terial adding a new paragraph (19) to section In that, it will be a pro-drilling bill Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- 5(b) of the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act, insert as well, although it will not be all- ance of my time. the following and redesignate the subsequent drilling. It will not be all my-way-or- The Acting CHAIRMAN. All time for provisions accordingly: the-highway, as some on the other side general debate has expired. ‘‘(A) analyze any potential impacts on the continually preach, but rather it will Pursuant to the rule, the amendment possession or use of a weapon, trap, or net, be a bill that will show the sacrifices in the nature of a substitute printed in including a concealed weapon, on the Missisquoi and Trout Rivers, Vermont, de- that will be necessary, the com- the bill pursuant to part 2 of House Re- promises that are always necessary in scribed in subsection (a)(ll) or on lands ad- port 110–668 shall be considered as an jacent to that area;’’. the legislative process if we are going original bill for the purpose of amend- to address the common good of this The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to ment under the 5-minute rule and shall House Resolution 1419, the gentleman country. So that is what we are going be considered read. from Arizona (Mr. GRIJALVA) and a to see. The text of the committee amend- Member opposed each will control 5 One important factor of that bill that ment is as follows: we have not seen in previous energy minutes. H.R. 3667 bills is accountability and trans- The Chair recognizes the gentleman parency. After all, these are the Amer- Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- from Arizona. resentatives of the United States of America in Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, this ican people’s resources, our public re- Congress assembled, sources we are talking about on the amendment would require that the SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. OCS or with Federal leasing on on- study authorized by H.R. 3667 analyze This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Missisquoi and any potential impacts a wild and scenic shore Federal lands. That means the Trout Rivers Wild and Scenic River Study Act of American people have the right to re- 2008’’. river designation for this river might have on the possession or use of a ceive a fair dispensation for the use of SEC. 2. DESIGNATION FOR STUDY. their resources, as well as an account- Section 5(a) of the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act weapon, trap or net, including a con- ability of royalties and fees collected (16 U.S.C. 1276(a)) is amended by adding at the cealed weapon. thereupon. end the following: As with many of the amendments of- One of the areas in which we will ‘‘(ll) MISSISQUOI AND TROUT RIVERS, fered today, I do not believe this seek to provide much-needed reform VERMONT.—The approximately 25-mile segment amendment is necessary. The under- and more oversight is in the area of of the upper Missisquoi from its headwaters in lying legislation already is more than royalty collection and the royalty-in- Lowell to the Canadian border in North Troy; sufficient in what it directs the Sec- the approximately 25-mile segment from the Ca- retary to study when considering a kind program specifically. nadian border in East Richford to Enosburg The Acting CHAIRMAN. The time of Falls; and approximately 20 miles of the Trout wild and scenic river designation. Fur- the gentleman has expired. River from its headwaters to its confluence with ther, the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I the Missisquoi River.’’. already makes perfectly clear that yield an additional 30 seconds. SEC. 3. STUDY AND REPORT. these river designations are not in- Mr. RAHALL. Thank you. And I say Section 5(b) of the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act tended to infringe upon existing State we will provide that additional over- (16 U.S.C. 1276(b)) is amended by adding at the authority to manage hunting or fish- sight, because the Interior Depart- end the following: ing. ment’s own Inspector General, Mr. ‘‘(19) MISSISQUOI AND TROUT RIVERS, Nevertheless, Chairman RAHALL has Devaney, is today coming out with a VERMONT.—Not later than 3 years after funds filed this amendment in an overabun- report of his investigation of the roy- are made available to carry out this paragraph, dance of caution, and as a good-faith alty-in-kind program in which he says the Secretary of the Interior shall— effort to dispel any rumors that this we have also discovered a culture of ‘‘(A) analyze the potential impact of the des- ignation on private lands within the Missisquoi bill will impact existing policies on substance abuse and promiscuity in the and Trout Rivers, Vermont, described in sub- hunting and fishing. I urge my col- RIK program, both within the program, section (a)(ll) or adjacent to that area; leagues to support the amendment. including the supervisor, who engaged ‘‘(B) complete the study of the Missisquoi and I reserve the balance of my time. in illegal drug use, had sexual relations Trout Rivers, Vermont, described in subsection Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, with subordinates, and is in consort (a)(ll); and though not in opposition, I claim the with industry. Internally, several staff ‘‘(C) submit a report describing the results of time in opposition on this amendment. admitted to illegal drug use as well as that study to the appropriate committees of The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without ob- elicit sexual encounters, and it goes on Congress.’’. jection, the gentleman is recognized and on about what has been happening The Acting CHAIRMAN. No amend- for 5 minutes. with this oversight program. We will ment to that amendment is in order ex- There was no objection. strengthen this program and make the cept those printed in House Report 110– Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, reforms necessary. 834. Each amendment shall be consid- we find ourselves in a unique situation Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, ered only in the order printed in the re- on this particular amendment. The I certainly hope when my chairman port; by a Member designated in the re- gentleman who proposed it thinks it is rolls me into the surgery room and port; shall be considered read; shall be unnecessary. I think this is a wonder- opens me up, he will solve the problem. debatable for the time specified in the ful amendment. It was great when

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Mr. Chairman, equally as enthralled with that amend- regular process, have an open rule, and I appreciate the opportunity of talking ment. give and take on both sides. about a bill that asks us to review en- Mr. Chairman, at this time I wish to Put the politics aside, and let’s do ergy issues with this particular piece of yield such time as he may consume to what we should have done 6 weeks ago legislation. the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. to bring relief to the American people When the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act GINGREY). in regard to these high gasoline prices. was originally established, it was de- Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, just signed specifically to inhibit, if not thank the gentleman from Utah for as a friendly correction for the gen- stop, the production of dams across riv- yielding. tleman from Georgia, nada is spelled N- ers where electricity could be the re- I, too, want to rise in support of the A-D-A. So none of the above doesn’t sult. It is fitting and proper to see amendment of Mr. GRIJALVA and Mr. quite fit the acronym, so there might what kind of impact this wild and sce- BISHOP in regard to this amendment. need to be a search for an appropriate nic river would have in that area, as But, Mr. Chairman, I want to state balance. well as the fact that this river, the rather emphatically that I rise to ex- The other thing, and he mentioned a Missisquoi River, translated means the press concern that this committee, the good point. Under the jurisdiction of great grassy meadow. It could possibly Resources Committee, which has juris- the Natural Resources Committee are be the ‘‘great gassy meadow’’ if we find diction over the Arctic National Wild- 68 million acres under lease and not in some kind of minerals down there, life Refuge, has jurisdiction over the production under the public lands of which, once again, a review of that I miles and miles and hundreds if not this country. So under that jurisdic- think would be appropriate. thousands of miles of Outer Conti- tion, I think the committee has made Mr. Chairman, I wish to yield the re- nental Shelf on both coasts of this that effort to try to extend the public mainder of my time to the gentleman country and also the Gulf of Mexico, lands as a source for energy. from Illinois (Mr. SHIMKUS). this committee, the Natural Resources I reserve the balance of my time. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- Committee chaired by Mr. RAHALL, has Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, tleman from Illinois is recognized for jurisdiction, and yet here we are, Mr. I wish to defend my good friend from up to 4 minutes. Chairman, taking up the time of this Georgia. Actually he said NOT-A, (Mr. SHIMKUS asked and was given body to delay the work that we clearly which is N-O-T-A. It is just that Geor- permission to revise and extend his re- need to do in regard to a sound energy gian accent, it’s hard to get the letters marks.) policy. And to think that we have 2 straight there. That’s something we Mr. SHIMKUS. Mr. Chairman, it is more weeks left before the majority don’t face in Arizona or Utah, I realize great to have a chance to be on the leadership has decided that we are that. floor to talk about energy and the lack going to leave this place and not come Mr. Chairman, in all sincerity, we of movement from my colleagues on back until the 111th Congress, ladies support this particular amendment. the other side. It’s not the first time and gentlemen, that is next January. I yield back the balance of my time. I’ve been down here, it’s not going to So starting from August 1 until the end Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I be the last, and I seriously doubt that of the year, that means we will have yield back the balance of my time. the provision that will be brought to worked, what, 13 days in 5 months. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- the floor will be an all-of-the-above, That makes this congressional job, Mr. tion is on the amendment offered by comprehensive plan. Chairman, a part-time job. If I had the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. It will be a smoke screen, it will try known that, I would go back home and GRIJALVA). to have some cover for votes for No- deliver babies for 6 months out of the The question was taken; and the Act- vember, but it will not be the all-the- year. ing Chairman announced that the ayes above strategy that we are demanding We ought to be doing an energy bill appeared to have it. on the floor of the House. right now, this week. There is no ex- Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I de- There will not be a provision on coal cuse for it. And there was really no ex- mand a recorded vote. in this bill. Coal is our most valuable cuse, Mr. Chairman, for us adjourning The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to resource we have in this country. and going home to our districts for clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- There will not be a provision on oil whatever reason for 5 weeks. We could ceedings on the amendment offered by shale. More energy than any other have stayed here and in 3 days, 5 days the gentleman from Arizona will be country in oil shale. We will not deal at the most, done exactly what Mr. RA- postponed. with opening up the entire Outer Con- HALL just a few minutes ago on the AMENDMENT NO. 2 OFFERED BY MR. BISHOP OF tinental Shelf. We will not use the rev- floor of this Chamber said that you UTAH enues to fully expand the grid or go were going to do; you, the majority, The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in into all the renewables. were going to introduce a comprehen- order to consider amendment No. 2 We would like regular order. We sive bill allowing 99 percent of all printed in House Report 110–834. would like the chance to move a bill United States energy resources to be Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Chairman, through the committee. I serve on the utilized. I have an amendment at the desk. Energy and Air Quality subcommittee; What I have seen, Mr. Chairman, of The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk I serve on the Energy and Commerce this proposal, if it looks anything like will designate the amendment. full committee. The 2005 energy bill what has been suggested on the Senate The text of the amendment is as fol- that you all had attacked went through side, doesn’t even come close to that. lows: regular order. It went through your This is certainly not an all-of-the- Amendment No. 2 offered by Mr. BISHOP of committee, it went through my com- above energy bill; it is almost none of Utah: mittee, it went through the Science After the new paragraph (19)(A) added to the above. And, quite honestly, the ac- section 5(b) of the Wild and Scenic Rivers Committee. It went through all the ronym for that is the NOT-A bill, none- Act, insert the following (and redesignate committees; it was cobbled together on of-the-above act. It is a NOT-A energy the subsequent subparagraphs accordingly): the floor; we had amendments on the act. ‘‘(B) include in the study completed under floor, and we voted. But if the chairman is right in what this paragraph an assessment of any effect a Democrats attacked us for the major- he said, Mr. Chairman, that we are wild and scenic designation in the study area ity of the majority rule of the floor of going to see an all-of-the-above energy is likely to have on energy production, the House. Well, we’re going to turn bill, let’s get with it. Let’s get with it. transmission, or conveyance;’’. that around, because now it’s just a There is no reason why the Committee The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to majority of one: It’s whatever Speaker on Energy and Commerce, with Chair- House Resolution 1419, the gentleman PELOSI decides, that will be the bill on man DINGELL and Ranking Member from Utah (Mr. BISHOP) and a Member the floor. And she is dissing you all. BARTON who work very well together, opposed each will control 5 minutes. She’s not allowing you all to have any

VerDate Aug 31 2005 02:53 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00020 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.045 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE September 10, 2008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H7979 input into the legislative process. It’s ergy bill because it was done behind have to manage it. We’re adding to a whatever she says goes. And you just closed doors. I think the point on the backlog of between 14 and $22 billion. can’t deny that fact, because it is not attack is relative to the fact that it We shouldn’t continue to do this. We going through any regular order. was shortsighted, Big Oil driven, and can’t continue to do this. We have So when you attacked the 2005 en- an utter failure. parks in my State and everywhere else ergy bill that went through the sub- Mr. SHIMKUS. Will the gentleman that have maintenance needs, that committee, went through the full com- yield? have staffing needs, that have needs mittee as being written behind closed The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- that are going unmet, and we’re going doors, there is no more closed doors tleman from Arizona controls the time. about just adding more to it, without than what you are doing and proposing Mr. GRIJALVA. I thank the Chair- seeking a funding source or anything to do in this bill, and it is a shame and man. else. We’re simply adding more obliga- it is an insult on the legislative proc- With regard to the Bishop amend- tions to the Park Service, and we can’t ess. ment, we have no opposition after re- do that. Let’s see if we address coal-to-liquid. viewing it, and we would accept this This amendment simply says that There are two provisions you all could amendment. nothing in this authorization implies put in the bill right now to make us I yield back the balance of my time. this appropriation will follow. Again, if more energy independent. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- an appropriation does follow, we are You could put long-term contracting tion is on the amendment offered by taking from the existing wild and sce- Department of Defense, who are asking the gentleman from Utah (Mr. BISHOP). nic rivers or other designations that for coal-to-liquid applications for jet The amendment was agreed to. our Interior Department has to man- fuel, long-term contracting, and we b 1515 age. would have coal-to-liquid refineries I reserve the balance of my time. being built with American jobs today. AMENDMENT NO. 3 OFFERED BY MR. FLAKE Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I rise You could take a Democrat bill, the The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in to claim time in opposition to the Boucher coal-to-liquid bill. You could order to consider amendment No. 3 Flake amendment. put RICK BOUCHER’s bill in this, quote/ printed in House Report 110–834. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- unquote, comprehensive energy bill, Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I have an tleman from Arizona (Mr. GRIJALVA) is and we would have coal-to-liquid refin- amendment at the desk. recognized for 5 minutes. eries being built in this country within The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk Mr. GRIJALVA. Upon review of the a year. will designate the amendment. amendment of my good friend from Ar- But it won’t be comprehensive be- The text of the amendment is as fol- izona (Mr. FLAKE), we are prepared to cause you’re going to not address coal, lows: accept it and will not oppose the the greatest resource. We have more Amendment No. 3 offered by Mr. FLAKE: amendment. coal reserves than any country on this At the end of the bill, add the following: I reserve. planet. So you can’t really say you are SEC. 4. FUNDING. Mr. FLAKE. I thank the gentleman going to have a comprehensive energy Nothing in this Act or the amendments for accepting the amendment, and I plan when you don’t address coal. made by this Act shall be construed as au- thank the Chair. The other thing that you will not do thorizing appropriations to designate or oth- Now, let me say a few words about is open up the Outer Continental Shelf. erwise create a new component of the na- energy, since everybody else has. I You may open up 5 percent more. This tional wild and scenic rivers system. didn’t plan to when I came down here, whole red area, you have seen it nu- The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to but I have to say that Republicans will merous times, off-limits. House Resolution 1419, the gentleman charge, with some justification, that We’re going to call your bluff. We’re from Arizona (Mr. FLAKE) and a Mem- the Democrats have been in charge for going to shut down this government on ber opposed each will control 5 min- the last 2 years and have failed to pass the CR because we’re going to defeat utes. significant substantial energy legisla- the moratorium. So you can pass all The Chair recognizes the gentleman tion. Democrats will charge, with some these energy bills you want. You know from Arizona. justification, that the Republicans you can’t conference it with the Sen- Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, we’ll ac- have been in charge for a number of ate. You know it’s not going to go to tually hear about this bill for just a years and failed to do so. the President’s desk. It’s a fig leaf. It’s minute at least before I talk about en- We blamed the Senate. We didn’t a farce. You ought to be ashamed of ergy. But, no, I do have a serious have 60 votes in the Senate. The Demo- yourselves. amendment here that simply clarifies crats can do the same at this point. What we’re going to do is we’re going that nothing in this bill is meant to But here we are today, and we can’t to wait till the spending bill comes to authorize appropriations for the new continue to look back and say we fund government, and then we’re going unit of the Wild and Scenic Rivers Sys- should have done something before, be- to call your bluff. Are you willing to tem. cause we are here today and people are shut the government down and keep The bill before us today authorizes a asking, why aren’t you passing some- off-limits billions of barrels of oil, tril- study to determine if the Missisquoi thing? With justification, I might add. lions of cubic feet of natural gas? And and Trout Rivers in Vermont are eligi- Now, one of the speakers mentioned if you’re willing to do that, fine. We’ll ble to be designated wild and scenic that what the Republicans were pro- do that before the election. We’ll go rivers. Now, rivers designated as wild posing was more like a Fred Flintstone back and we’ll hold you accountable at and scenic are managed by a number of bill of some type. And I would have to the polls. Department of the Interior agencies, ask that same speaker how she plans to Do you know why you can’t bring a including the National Park Service, get home tonight. Unless she has a comprehensive bill that comes through Forest Service, Bureau of Land Man- Flintstone mobile, she’s probably regular order? Because NANCY PELOSI agement and the Fish and Wildlife riding in something that is powered by loses, and it’s her bill. Service. gas, maybe a hybrid, unlikely that it’s The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentle- However, if you ask CRS about this, electricity. In fact, less than 1 percent man’s time has expired. these four agencies have a combined of our current energy needs in this Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I rise maintenance backlog of between 14 and country are produced by solar, which to claim the time in opposition to the $22 billion. That is between 14 and $22 she talked about. Less than 1 percent is amendment. billion. And so we are going to be doing produced by wind. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- a study of another river, a study that Now, in our plan it has plans for in- tleman from Arizona is recognized for 5 often precedes designation. I think creased solar and wind. But if you dou- minutes. that is the purpose of this study, that bled, if you tripled, if you quadrupled, Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I just will then put this river under the Park quintupled, do whatever you want, to want a point of clarification, that we Service’s jurisdiction or the Interior solar and wind for a number of years, didn’t attack the 2005 Republican en- Department, and these agencies will we are going to rely on our traditional

VerDate Aug 31 2005 02:53 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00021 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.048 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7980 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 energy sources. And so it makes sense Hinchey McNerney Scott (GA) Roskam Smith (NE) Walberg that, while we are searching for the Hinojosa McNulty Scott (VA) Royce Smith (NJ) Walden (OR) Hirono Meek (FL) Serrano Ryan (WI) Smith (TX) Walsh (NY) next big thing, while we wait for a hy- Holden Meeks (NY) Sestak Sali Souder Wamp drogen economy, or while we wait for Holt Melancon Shea-Porter Saxton Stark Weller wind and solar to really come on-line, Honda Michaud Sherman Scalise Stearns Westmoreland Schmidt Sullivan or something else that we may not Hooley Miller (NC) Shuler Whitfield (KY) Hoyer Miller, George Sires Sensenbrenner Tancredo Wilson (NM) Sessions Terry even know of, we have to use the re- Inslee Mitchell Skelton Wilson (SC) Israel Mollohan Shadegg Thornberry sources that we have. Slaughter Wittman (VA) Jackson (IL) Moore (KS) Shays Tiahrt Smith (WA) Wolf So nobody on this side is really say- Jefferson Moore (WI) Shimkus Tiberi ing drill and drill only. We’re saying it Johnson (GA) Murphy (CT) Snyder Shuster Turner Young (AK) has to be part of the mix and it has to Johnson, E. B. Murphy, Patrick Solis Simpson Upton Young (FL) Space be all of the above. Kagen Murtha Kanjorski Nadler Speier NOT VOTING—24 So there’s plenty of blame to go Kaptur Napolitano Spratt Bilbray Gonzalez Payne around. I myself have not voted for one Kennedy Neal (MA) Stupak Boustany Hodes Peterson (MN) energy bill since I’ve been here in the Kildee Oberstar Sutton Cannon Hulshof Pitts past 8 years because I thought that Kilpatrick Obey Tanner Cazayoux Lee Reynolds Kind Olver Tauscher Christensen Levin Rush some of them were too subsidy-laden. I Klein (FL) Ortiz Taylor Edwards (TX) Moran (KS) Udall (CO) didn’t think that they really, really al- Kucinich Pallone Thompson (CA) English (PA) Norton Udall (NM) lowed us, in a free market way, to go Lampson Pascrell Thompson (MS) Fortun˜ o Paul Weldon (FL) Langevin Pastor out and use our resources. Tierney Larsen (WA) Perlmutter Towns b 1552 But going forward, this is what we’ve Larson (CT) Pomeroy Tsongas LaTourette Price (NC) Messrs. WELLER of Illinois, BRADY got to look at; what are we going to do Van Hollen of Texas and BURTON of Indiana Lewis (GA) Rangel Vela´ zquez going forward. It doesn’t do anybody Lipinski Reyes Visclosky changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ any good to say well, the Democrats Loebsack Richardson Walz (MN) Mr. SMITH of Washington, Ms. ZOE Lofgren, Zoe Rodriguez didn’t do anything, or the Republicans Wasserman Lowey Ross LOFGREN of California, Messrs. didn’t. We’re here today, and it’s time Schultz Lynch Rothman WEINER, SNYDER, COOPER, KLEIN Waters to do something on this. Mahoney (FL) Roybal-Allard of Florida, CHANDLER, LYNCH, Ms. Again, I thank the chairman of the Maloney (NY) Ruppersberger Watson Watt KILPATRICK, Messrs. FARR, subcommittee and appreciate him ac- Markey Ryan (OH) Marshall Salazar Waxman MCDERMOTT, ENGEL, ETHERIDGE, cepting this amendment. Matheson Sa´ nchez, Linda Weiner BOYD of Florida, ACKERMAN, I yield back the balance of my time. Matsui T. Welch (VT) HINOJOSA, BLUMENAUER, WELCH of Mr. GRIJALVA. I yield back. McCarthy (NY) Sanchez, Loretta Wexler McCollum (MN) Sarbanes Wilson (OH) Vermont, BISHOP of Georgia, The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- McDermott Schakowsky Woolsey COSTELLO, and LAMPSON changed tion is on the amendment offered by McGovern Schiff Wu their vote from ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. McIntyre Schwartz Yarmuth So the motion was agreed to. FLAKE). NOES—193 The result of the vote was announced The amendment was agreed to. as above recorded. Mr. GRIJALVA. Mr. Chairman, I Abercrombie Ehlers Lewis (CA) Aderholt Emerson Lewis (KY) Accordingly, the Committee rose; move that the committee do now rise. Akin Everett Linder and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- Alexander Fallin LoBiondo CAPUANO) having assumed the chair, tion is on the motion to rise. Bachmann Feeney Lucas Bachus Ferguson Lungren, Daniel Mr. ROSS, Acting Chairman of the The question was taken; and the Act- Barrett (SC) Flake E. Committee of the Whole House on the ing Chairman announced that the ayes Bartlett (MD) Forbes Mack State of the Union, reported that that appeared to have it. Barton (TX) Fortenberry Manzullo Committee, having had under consider- Biggert Fossella Marchant RECORDED VOTE Bilirakis Foxx McCarthy (CA) ation the bill (H.R. 3667) to amend the Mr. WESTMORELAND. Mr. Chair- Bishop (UT) Franks (AZ) McCaul (TX) Wild and Scenic Rivers Act to des- man, I demand a recorded vote. Blackburn Frelinghuysen McCotter ignate a segment of the Missisquoi and Blunt Gallegly McCrery A recorded vote was ordered. Boehner Garrett (NJ) McHenry Trout Rivers in the State of Vermont The vote was taken by electronic de- Bonner Gerlach McHugh for study for potential addition to the vice, and there were—ayes 221, noes 193, Bono Mack Gilchrest McKeon National Wild and Scenic Rivers Sys- Boozman Gingrey McMorris tem, had come to no resolution there- not voting 24, as follows: Brady (TX) Gohmert Rodgers [Roll No. 580] Broun (GA) Goode Mica on. Brown (SC) Goodlatte Miller (FL) f AYES—221 Brown-Waite, Granger Miller (MI) Ackerman Carnahan Doggett Ginny Graves Miller, Gary RECESS Allen Carney Donnelly Buchanan Hall (TX) Moran (VA) Altmire Carson Doyle Burgess Hastings (WA) Murphy, Tim The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Andrews Castor Edwards (MD) Burton (IN) Hayes Musgrave ant to clause 12(a) of rule I, the Chair Arcuri Chandler Ellison Buyer Heller Myrick declares the House in recess subject to Baca Childers Ellsworth Calvert Hensarling Neugebauer Baird Clarke Emanuel Camp (MI) Herger Nunes the call of the Chair. Baldwin Clay Engel Campbell (CA) Hobson Pearce Accordingly (at 3 o’clock and 53 min- Barrow Cleaver Eshoo Cantor Hoekstra Pence utes p.m.), the House stood in recess Bean Clyburn Etheridge Capito Hunter Peterson (PA) subject to the call of the Chair. Becerra Cohen Faleomavaega Carter Inglis (SC) Petri Berkley Conyers Farr Castle Issa Pickering f Berman Cooper Fattah Chabot Jackson-Lee Platts Berry Costa Filner Coble (TX) Poe b 1727 Bishop (GA) Costello Foster Cole (OK) Johnson (IL) Porter Bishop (NY) Courtney Frank (MA) Conaway Johnson, Sam Price (GA) AFTER RECESS Blumenauer Cramer Giffords Crenshaw Jones (NC) Pryce (OH) The recess having expired, the House Bordallo Crowley Gillibrand Cubin Jordan Putnam Boren Cuellar Gordon Culberson Keller Radanovich was called to order by the Speaker pro Boswell Cummings Green, Al Davis (KY) King (IA) Rahall tempore (Mr. ALTMIRE) at 5 o’clock and Boucher Davis (AL) Green, Gene Davis, David King (NY) Ramstad 27 minutes p.m. Boyd (FL) Davis (CA) Grijalva Davis, Tom Kingston Regula Boyda (KS) Davis (IL) Gutierrez Deal (GA) Kirk Rehberg f Brady (PA) Davis, Lincoln Hall (NY) Dent Kline (MN) Reichert MISSISQUOI AND TROUT RIVERS Braley (IA) DeFazio Hare Diaz-Balart, L. Knollenberg Renzi Brown, Corrine DeGette Harman Diaz-Balart, M. Kuhl (NY) Rogers (AL) WILD AND SCENIC RIVER STUDY Butterfield Delahunt Hastings (FL) Doolittle LaHood Rogers (KY) ACT OF 2008 Capps DeLauro Herseth Sandlin Drake Lamborn Rogers (MI) Capuano Dicks Higgins Dreier Latham Rohrabacher The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Cardoza Dingell Hill Duncan Latta Ros-Lehtinen ant to House Resolution 1419 and rule

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Engel Lewis (CA) Rogers (KY) NOT VOTING—20 English (PA) Lewis (GA) Rogers (MI) b 1728 Eshoo Lewis (KY) Rohrabacher Abercrombie Fortun˜ o Levin Etheridge Linder Ros-Lehtinen Baca Harman Olver IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Everett Lipinski Roskam Cardoza Hinojosa Ortiz Accordingly, the House resolved Faleomavaega LoBiondo Ross Cazayoux Hodes Peterson (MN) Fallin Loebsack Rothman Christensen Hulshof Peterson (PA) itself into the Committee of the Whole Farr Lofgren, Zoe Roybal-Allard Culberson Keller Pitts House on the State of the Union for the Fattah Lowey Royce Feeney Lee further consideration of the bill (H.R. Ferguson Lucas Ruppersberger b 1753 3667) to amend the Wild and Scenic Filner Lungren, Daniel Rush Flake E. Ryan (OH) Mr. MACK changed his vote from Rivers Act to designate a segment of Forbes Lynch Ryan (WI) ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ the Missisquoi and Trout Rivers in the Fortenberry Mack Salazar So the amendment was agreed to. State of Vermont for study for poten- Fossella Mahoney (FL) Sali Foster Maloney (NY) Sa´ nchez, Linda The result of the vote was announced tial addition to the National Wild and Foxx Manzullo T. as above recorded. Scenic Rivers System, with Mr. DOYLE Frank (MA) Marchant Sanchez, Loretta The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- (Acting Chairman) in the chair. Franks (AZ) Markey Sarbanes tion is on the committee amendment The Clerk read the title of the bill. Frelinghuysen Marshall Saxton Gallegly Matheson Scalise in the nature of a substitute, as amend- The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. POM- Garrett (NJ) Matsui Schakowsky ed. EROY). When the committee of the Gerlach McCarthy (CA) Schiff The committee amendment in the whole rose earlier today, amendment Giffords McCarthy (NY) Schmidt nature of a substitute, as amended, was No. 3 printed in House report 110–834, Gilchrest McCaul (TX) Schwartz Gillibrand McCollum (MN) Scott (GA) agreed to. offered by the gentleman from Arizona Gingrey McCotter Scott (VA) The Acting CHAIRMAN. Under the (Mr. FLAKE), had been disposed of. Gohmert McCrery Sensenbrenner rule, the Committee rises. McDermott Serrano AMENDMENT NO. 1 OFFERED BY MR. GRIJALVA Gonzalez Accordingly, the Committee rose; Goode McGovern Sessions and the Speaker pro tempore (Mrs. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The unfin- Goodlatte McHenry Sestak ished business is the demand for a re- Gordon McHugh Shadegg TAUSCHER) having assumed the chair, corded vote on the amendment offered Granger McIntyre Shays Mr. POMEROY, Acting Chairman of the Graves McKeon Shea-Porter Committee of the Whole House on the by the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Green, Al McMorris Sherman GRIJALVA) on which further pro- Green, Gene Rodgers Shimkus State of the Union, reported that that ceedings were postponed and on which Grijalva McNerney Shuler Committee, having had under consider- the ayes prevailed by voice vote. Gutierrez McNulty Shuster ation the bill (H.R. 3667) to amend the Hall (NY) Meek (FL) Simpson Wild and Scenic Rivers Act to des- The Clerk will redesignate the Hall (TX) Meeks (NY) Sires amendment. Hare Melancon Skelton ignate a segment of the Missisquoi and The Clerk redesignated the amend- Hastings (FL) Mica Slaughter Trout Rivers in the State of Vermont ment. Hastings (WA) Michaud Smith (NE) for study for potential addition to the Hayes Miller (FL) Smith (NJ) National Wild and Scenic Rivers Sys- RECORDED VOTE Heller Miller (MI) Smith (TX) The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded Hensarling Miller (NC) Smith (WA) tem, pursuant to House Resolution Herger Miller, Gary Snyder 1419, he reported the bill back to the vote has been demanded. Herseth Sandlin Miller, George Solis A recorded vote was ordered. House with an amendment adopted by Higgins Mitchell Souder the Committee of the Whole. The vote was taken by electronic de- Hill Mollohan Space The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under vice, and there were—ayes 418, noes 0, Hinchey Moore (KS) Speier Hirono Moore (WI) Spratt the rule, the previous question is or- not voting 20, as follows: Hobson Moran (KS) Stark dered. [Roll No. 581] Hoekstra Moran (VA) Stearns Is a separate vote demanded on any Holden Murphy (CT) Stupak AYES—418 Holt Murphy, Patrick Sullivan amendment to the amendment re- Ackerman Boyd (FL) Conaway Honda Murphy, Tim Sutton ported from the Committee of the Aderholt Boyda (KS) Conyers Hooley Murtha Tancredo Whole? If not, the question is on the Akin Brady (PA) Cooper Hoyer Musgrave Tanner Alexander Brady (TX) Costa Hunter Myrick Tauscher amendment. Allen Braley (IA) Costello Inglis (SC) Nadler Taylor The amendment was agreed to. Altmire Broun (GA) Courtney Inslee Napolitano Terry The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Andrews Brown (SC) Cramer Israel Neal (MA) Thompson (CA) question is on the engrossment and Arcuri Brown, Corrine Crenshaw Issa Neugebauer Thompson (MS) Bachmann Brown-Waite, Crowley Jackson (IL) Norton Thornberry third reading of the bill. Bachus Ginny Cubin Jackson-Lee Nunes Tiahrt The bill was ordered to be engrossed Baird Buchanan Cuellar (TX) Oberstar Tiberi and read a third time, and was read the Baldwin Burgess Cummings Jefferson Obey Tierney third time. Barrett (SC) Burton (IN) Davis (AL) Johnson (GA) Pallone Towns Barrow Butterfield Davis (CA) Johnson (IL) Pascrell Tsongas MOTION TO RECOMMIT Bartlett (MD) Buyer Davis (IL) Johnson, E. B. Pastor Turner Mr. SALI. Madam Speaker, I have a Barton (TX) Calvert Davis (KY) Johnson, Sam Paul Udall (CO) motion to recommit at the desk. Bean Camp (MI) Davis, David Jones (NC) Payne Udall (NM) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the Becerra Campbell (CA) Davis, Lincoln Jordan Pearce Upton Berkley Cannon Davis, Tom Kagen Pence Van Hollen gentleman opposed to the bill? Berman Cantor Deal (GA) Kanjorski Perlmutter Vela´ zquez Mr. SALI. Yes, in its current form. Berry Capito DeFazio Kaptur Petri Visclosky The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Biggert Capps DeGette Kennedy Pickering Walberg Clerk will report the motion to recom- Bilbray Capuano Delahunt Kildee Platts Walden (OR) Bilirakis Carnahan DeLauro Kilpatrick Poe Walsh (NY) mit. Bishop (GA) Carney Dent Kind Pomeroy Walz (MN) The Clerk read as follows: Bishop (NY) Carson Diaz-Balart, L. King (IA) Porter Wamp Mr. Sali of Idaho moves to recommit the Bishop (UT) Carter Diaz-Balart, M. King (NY) Price (GA) Wasserman bill H.R. 3667 to the Committee on Natural Blackburn Castle Dicks Kingston Price (NC) Schultz Resources with instructions to report the Blumenauer Castor Dingell Kirk Pryce (OH) Waters Blunt Chabot Doggett Klein (FL) Putnam Watson same back to the House forthwith with the Boehner Chandler Donnelly Kline (MN) Radanovich Watt following amendment: Bonner Childers Doolittle Knollenberg Rahall Waxman At the end add a new title designated and Bono Mack Clarke Doyle Kucinich Ramstad Weiner entitled ‘‘Title II—American Energy Act’’, Boozman Clay Drake Kuhl (NY) Rangel Welch (VT) comprised of the text of H.R. 6566, 110th Con- Bordallo Cleaver Dreier LaHood Regula Weldon (FL) Boren Clyburn Duncan Lamborn Rehberg Weller gress, as introduced in the House of Rep- Boswell Coble Edwards (MD) Lampson Reichert Westmoreland resentatives (and conform the title designa- Boucher Cohen Edwards (TX) Langevin Renzi Wexler tion, section numbers, and any references to Boustany Cole (OK) Ehlers Larsen (WA) Reyes Whitfield (KY) such sections, accordingly).

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:34 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00023 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.058 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7982 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 Mr. GRIJALVA. Madam Speaker, I energy policies won’t allow us to go get POINT OF ORDER reserve a point of order on the motion. it, and people suffer as a result. Mr. GRIJALVA. Madam Speaker, I The SPEAKER pro tempore. A point My motion to recommit promotes make a point of order that the motion of order is reserved. and offers effective incentives for en- to recommit contains nongermane in- The gentleman from Idaho is recog- ergy conservation and more efficient structions in violation of clause 7 of nized for 5 minutes. use of our energy resources. It pro- rule XVI. Mr. SALI. Madam Speaker, today, motes all manner of alternative energy Let me add, Madam Speaker, the Of- millions of Americans will go to work, sources, and even establishes a renew- fice of the Inspector General just re- and the overwhelming majority of able energy trust fund using revenues leased an investigation that they con- them will drive. No matter what type generated by exploration in the deep ducted on the office responsible for of car they use, tens of millions of ocean and on the Arctic coastal plain. protecting the taxpayers in the royalty Americans will use privately owned We fuel our cars and trucks and heat collections on our public lands. Let me passenger automobiles to get to and our homes and businesses because just give a couple of quotes from the from work and school, the stores where hardworking men and women take summary of the report. they shop, and the soccer fields where risks, drill for oil, refine it, store it, ‘‘A culture of ethical failure. The sin- their kids practice. That’s reality. ship it and then sell it to individual gle most serious problem our investiga- That’s here and now. customers. We need more of it—a lot tions revealed is a pervasive culture of We have to think about how to help more—now. exclusivity, exempt from the rules that the people that we represent today, the We are all mindful that drilling won’t govern all other employees of the Fed- great majority of our fellow citizens make our energy problems disappear, eral Government. In other cases, the for whom the past few months have but it will start us in the right direc- results of our investigation revealed a been an energy nightmare. tion. In the next few years, the oil that program taxed with implementing a We are here today because my col- new drilling provides would start flow- business model program, such as roy- leagues and I on this side of the aisle ing into our fuel pumps. And in the in- alty-in-kind marketers, donned a pri- believe in what our distinguished lead- terim, the fact that America is finally vate sector approach to essentially ev- er has called the All-of-the-Above En- shattering our long-term dependence erything they did. This included effec- ergy Agenda. Many of us, including me, on foreign oil will send an unmistak- tively opting themselves out of the came here during the August recess to able signal to friend and foe alike that Ethics in Government Act, both in practice, and at one point even ex- call on our friends in the majority to America will use more of her own re- plored doing so by policy or regulation. come back and work with us on an en- sources and thereby regain a degree of We also discovered a culture of sub- ergy policy that would enable us to ac- economic independence that we have stance abuse and promiscuity in the cess America’s incredible natural re- lost for far too long. RIK program, both within the program, sources in an environmentally respon- We have heard talk that there will be including supervisors who engaged in sible way quickly and effectively. another new comprehensive energy bill illegal drug use and had sexual rela- That’s why I’m offering this motion from the Democrats. We also just took tions and consort with industry in the to recommit so that the House may a break for more than an hour because there is not agreement across the aisle oil business.’’ vote on the American Energy Act now. I mention those because the gravity on what that bill will look like. Appar- Madam Speaker, this is a question of of this particular problem, this patho- ently, there are real questions whether stewardship. We all look forward to a logical behavior, should be noted and the Democrat Members even support future where fossil fuels are less preva- looked into by this Congress. When we the proposal of Speaker PELOSI of a day lent. We’re all working toward that fu- get our new energy policy on the ago. But I submit that now is the time ture. We need to pursue solar and wind floor—soon—I hope that the other side to stop politicking, to do the right power, advance hydrogen fuel cell tech- will join with me in ensuring that eth- thing and vote on this motion to re- nology, and encourage nuclear energy ical reform of the agency responsible commit right now. Everything the so we can cut through the red tape and for the protection of the taxpayers’ in- construct plants as soon as possible. American public is asking us to do is vestment are part and parcel of any All of these are components of the included in this motion. America wants comprehensive energy reform. American Energy Act, and I rise to call this all-of-the-above kind of legisla- With that, I insist on the point of for a vote on that act today. But the tion. order, Madam Speaker. American Energy Act also calls for Now a point of order has been re- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does drilling right now. served. That means that those across any other Member wish to be heard on the aisle will try to beat this motion b 1800 the point of order? on a technicality. If we ask Americans, If not, the Chair is prepared to rule. We need to drill—drill offshore, drill do you care more for an amendment to The gentleman from Arizona makes a in ANWR, drill in the National Petro- this river study bill that is totally free point of order that the instructions in leum Reserve in Alaska, drill in the of technicalities or for Congress to fi- the motion to recommit are not ger- new fields of North Dakota—aggres- nally vote to conserve, produce alter- mane. The bill, H.R. 3667, as amended, sively develop oil sands and oil shale; native energy and drill here and drill is confined to the study of two rivers we need to drill wherever there is a re- now, we all know they wouldn’t care under the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act alistic promise of obtaining fuel for one whit about technicalities. They and closely related issues. America’s families. want energy. The instructions in the motion to re- Let me give you some examples of Earlier, Chairman RAHALL said Re- commit address H.R. 6566, a bill con- why. According to an assessment con- publicans and Democrats have been too taining subjects unrelated to the pend- ducted by the Minerals Management busy trying to blame each other for ing bill and containing provisions out- Service of technically recoverable oil high gas prices. Well, I say America is side the jurisdiction of the Committee and natural gas, the OCS contains 86 blaming all of Congress for high gas on Natural Resources. As such, the billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion and diesel prices. And I submit on my Chair finds that the motion to recom- cubic feet of natural gas. Both could be side of the aisle, by offering this mit is not germane. The point of order obtained safely and in an environ- amendment—that America wants— is sustained. mentally sound way. we’re doing our part to make things Mr. SALI. Madam Speaker, I appeal In addition, there are an estimated 18 right with the American people. the ruling of the Chair. billion barrels of oil and 76 trillion I invite my colleagues across the The SPEAKER pro tempore. The cubic feet of natural gas, or approxi- aisle, don’t sidestep this opportunity to question is, Shall the decision of the mately 20 percent of the undiscovered do the right thing because of a techni- Chair stand as the judgment of the technically recoverable resources in cality. Do the right thing. Vote for this House? the OCS that are completely off-limits motion to recommit so we can finally MOTION TO TABLE OFFERED BY MR. GRIJALVA today, but the extreme lobby that get the job done that the American Mr. GRIJALVA. Madam Speaker, I seems to have a grip on the majority’s public is demanding. move to table the appeal of the Chair.

VerDate Aug 31 2005 02:53 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00024 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.061 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE September 10, 2008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H7983 The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Visclosky Watson Wexler The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Walz (MN) Watt Wilson (OH) question is on the motion to table. Wasserman Waxman Woolsey Clerk will report the motion to recom- The question was taken; and the Schultz Weiner Wu mit. Speaker pro tempore announced that Waters Welch (VT) Yarmuth The Clerk read as follows: the ayes appeared to have it. NAYS—187 Mr Boehner moves to recommit the bill H.R. 3667 to the Committee on Natural Re- Mr. SALI. Madam Speaker, on that I Aderholt Foxx Myrick demand the yeas and nays. Akin Franks (AZ) Neugebauer sources with instructions to report the same The yeas and nays were ordered. Alexander Frelinghuysen Nunes back to the House promptly in the form to The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Bachmann Gallegly Paul which perfected at the time of this motion, Bachus Garrett (NJ) with the following amendment: ant to clause 8 and clause 9 of rule XX, Pence Barrett (SC) Gerlach Peterson (PA) After the new paragraph (19)(A) added to this 15-minute vote on the motion to Bartlett (MD) Gingrey Petri section 5(b) of the Wild and Scenic Rivers table will be followed by 5-minute Barton (TX) Gohmert Pickering Act, insert the following (and redesignate Biggert Goode votes on the passage of the bill, if aris- Platts the subsequent subparagraphs accordingly): Bilbray Goodlatte Poe ing without further proceedings in re- Bilirakis Granger ‘‘(B) include in the study completed under Price (GA) Bishop (UT) Graves this paragraph an assessment of any effect a committal, and the motion to suspend Pryce (OH) Blackburn Hall (TX) the rules with regard to H.R. 4081. Putnam wild and scenic designation in the study area Blunt Hastings (WA) The vote was taken by electronic de- Radanovich is likely to have on jobs, including agricul- Boehner Hayes tural employment;’’. vice, and there were—yeas 228, nays Bonner Hensarling Regula 187, not voting 18, as follows: Bono Mack Herger Rehberg The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Boozman Hobson Renzi tleman from Ohio is recognized for 5 [Roll No. 582] Reynolds Boustany Hoekstra minutes. YEAS—228 Brady (TX) Hunter Rogers (AL) Broun (GA) Inglis (SC) Rogers (KY) Mr. BOEHNER. Madam Speaker and Abercrombie Giffords Moore (WI) Brown (SC) Issa Rogers (MI) my colleagues, on behalf of all my Re- Ackerman Gilchrest Moran (VA) Brown-Waite, Johnson (IL) Rohrabacher publican colleagues, I want to welcome Allen Gillibrand Murphy (CT) Ginny Johnson, Sam Roskam Altmire Gonzalez Murphy, Patrick Buchanan Jones (NC) Royce my Democrat colleagues back to the Andrews Gordon Murtha Burgess Jordan Ryan (WI) House. Arcuri Green, Al Nadler Burton (IN) Keller Sali Five weeks ago, after the protest of Baird Green, Gene Napolitano Buyer King (IA) Saxton Baldwin Grijalva Oberstar the minority, you adjourned the House Calvert King (NY) Scalise Barrow Gutierrez Obey Camp (MI) Kingston Schmidt without a vote on the American En- Bean Hall (NY) Olver Campbell (CA) Kirk Sensenbrenner ergy Act, H.R. 6566. You and your fel- Becerra Hare Pallone Cannon Kline (MN) Sessions Berkley Hastings (FL) Pascrell low Democrats left town for five weeks, Cantor Knollenberg Shadegg Berman Heller Pastor but Republicans refused to leave. And Capito Kuhl (NY) Shimkus Berry Herseth Sandlin Payne Carter Lamborn we were here each and every day dur- Bishop (GA) Higgins Perlmutter Shuster Castle Lampson Simpson ing the August recess talking to thou- Bishop (NY) Hill Pomeroy Chabot Latham Blumenauer Hinchey Porter Smith (NE) sands of Americans that were coming Childers LaTourette Smith (NJ) Boren Hirono Price (NC) Coble Latta through the Capitol, and we stood here Boswell Holden Rahall Smith (TX) Cole (OK) Lewis (CA) Souder every day asking for a vote on our bill Boucher Holt Ramstad Conaway Lewis (KY) Boyd (FL) Honda Rangel Stearns that does all of the above, the Amer- Crenshaw Linder Sullivan Boyda (KS) Hooley Reichert Cubin LoBiondo ican Energy Act; a bill that the Amer- Tancredo Brady (PA) Hoyer Reyes Culberson Lucas ican people want us to vote on. And Terry Braley (IA) Inslee Richardson Davis (KY) Lungren, Daniel Thornberry that’s all we’re asking for is a vote. Brown, Corrine Israel Rodriguez Davis, David E. Tiahrt And today, instead of allowing a vote Butterfield Jackson (IL) Ros-Lehtinen Davis, Tom Mack Tiberi Capps Jackson-Lee Ross Deal (GA) Manzullo on our all-of-the-above plan, there are Capuano (TX) Rothman Dent Marchant Turner rumors that there is going to be a bill Carnahan Jefferson Roybal-Allard Diaz-Balart, L. McCarthy (CA) Upton Carney Johnson (GA) Ruppersberger Walberg coming to the floor quickly that no one Diaz-Balart, M. McCaul (TX) has ever seen, that does some of the Carson Johnson, E. B. Rush Doolittle McCotter Walden (OR) Castor Kagen Ryan (OH) Drake McHenry Walsh (NY) above, maybe a little of the above, but Chandler Kanjorski Salazar Dreier McHugh Wamp clearly not what the American people Clarke Kaptur Sa´ nchez, Linda Duncan McKeon Weldon (FL) want, which is ‘‘all of the above,’’ some Clay Kennedy T. Ehlers McMorris Weller Cleaver Kildee Sanchez, Loretta Emerson Rodgers Westmoreland bill that’s being written in the back Clyburn Kilpatrick Sarbanes English (PA) Mica Whitfield (KY) room in the dark of night that no one Cohen Kind Schakowsky Everett Miller (FL) Wilson (NM) Conyers Klein (FL) Schiff has yet seen. Fallin Miller (MI) Wilson (SC) Now, listen, the American people Cooper Kucinich Schwartz Ferguson Miller, Gary Wittman (VA) Costa LaHood Scott (GA) Flake Moran (KS) Wolf don’t want a sham. They don’t want a Costello Langevin Scott (VA) Forbes Murphy, Tim Young (AK) hoax. They have suffered all summer Courtney Larsen (WA) Serrano Fortenberry Musgrave Young (FL) Cramer Larson (CT) Sestak long in the face of high gas prices and Crowley Lewis (GA) Shays NOT VOTING—18 high energy prices, and they are de- Cuellar Lipinski Shea-Porter Baca Harman McCrery manding a vote here in this Congress Cummings Loebsack Sherman Cardoza Hinojosa Neal (MA) Davis (CA) Lofgren, Zoe Shuler on a plan that does all of the above, Cazayoux Hodes Ortiz Davis (IL) Lowey Sires not some of the bill, not a little bit of Davis (AL) Hulshof Pearce Davis, Lincoln Lynch Skelton Feeney Lee Peterson (MN) the above, but all of the above. DeFazio Mahoney (FL) Slaughter Fossella Levin Pitts Madam Speaker, you promised that DeGette Maloney (NY) Smith (WA) this would be the most open and ac- Delahunt Markey Snyder b 1825 DeLauro Marshall Solis countable Congress in history. And in Dicks Matheson Space Mrs. MCMORRIS RODGERS changed that light, I respectfully ask you now Dingell Matsui Speier her vote from ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ Doggett McCarthy (NY) Spratt give the American people a vote on the Donnelly McCollum (MN) Stark So the motion was agreed to. American Energy Act, H.R. 6566. Will it Doyle McDermott Stupak The result of the vote was announced be on the floor this week? Will you Edwards (MD) McGovern Sutton as above recorded. commit to giving the American people Edwards (TX) McIntyre Tanner A motion to reconsider was laid on Ellison McNerney Tauscher a straight up-or-down vote on a plan Ellsworth McNulty Taylor the table. they want, the all-of-the-above plan, Emanuel Meek (FL) Thompson (CA) MOTION TO RECOMMIT the American Energy Act? Engel Meeks (NY) Thompson (MS) Eshoo Melancon Tierney Mr. BOEHNER. Madam Speaker, I Madam Speaker, this is the U.S. Etheridge Michaud Towns have a motion to recommit at the House of Representatives. As all of my Farr Miller (NC) Tsongas desk. colleagues have known, we all refer to Fattah Miller, George Udall (CO) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the this as the people’s House because none Filner Mitchell Udall (NM) Foster Mollohan Van Hollen gentleman opposed to the bill? of us got here without being elected by Frank (MA) Moore (KS) Vela´ zquez Mr. BOEHNER. I am. all of the people in our districts. Why

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:34 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00025 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.064 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7984 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 not let the House work its will? Why Johnson (IL) Mitchell Serrano NOT VOTING—16 Johnson, E. B. Mollohan Sestak Baca Hinojosa Ortiz not allow the Congress to decide the fu- Jones (NC) Moore (KS) Shays Berman Hodes ture of our energy security here in Kagen Moore (WI) Shea-Porter Peterson (MN) Cardoza Hulshof Kanjorski Moran (VA) Sherman Pitts America? And I don’t think the Amer- Cazayoux Lee Kaptur Murphy (CT) Shimkus Vela´ zquez ican people are going to rest until Con- Feeney Levin Kennedy Murphy, Patrick Shuler Harman McCrery gress takes action on energy that does Kildee Murphy, Tim Sires all of the above. Kilpatrick Murtha Skelton b 1849 So, Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous Kind Nadler Slaughter Messrs. FORBES and WITTMAN of consent to amend my motion to recom- King (NY) Napolitano Smith (NJ) Kirk Neal (MA) Smith (TX) Virginia changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ mit to include the text of H.R. 6566, the Klein (FL) Oberstar Smith (WA) to ‘‘no.’’ Knollenberg Obey Snyder American Energy Act. So the bill was passed. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Kucinich Olver Solis Kuhl (NY) Pallone Space The result of the vote was announced objection to the request of the gen- LaHood Pascrell Speier as above recorded. tleman from Ohio? Lampson Pastor Spratt A motion to reconsider was laid on Mr. GRIJALVA. I object. Langevin Payne Stark Larsen (WA) Perlmutter Stupak the table. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Objec- Larson (CT) Peterson (PA) Sutton f tion is heard. LaTourette Petri Tanner Mr. BOEHNER. Madam Speaker, this Lewis (CA) Platts Tauscher FURTHER MESSAGE FROM THE Lewis (GA) Pomeroy Taylor SENATE is a sham. I withdraw my motion. Lipinski Porter Terry The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without LoBiondo Price (NC) Thompson (CA) A further message from the Senate objection, the motion is withdrawn. Loebsack Pryce (OH) Thompson (MS) by Ms. Curtis, one of its clerks, an- Lofgren, Zoe Rahall Tiberi nounced that the Senate had passed There was no objection. Lowey Ramstad Tierney The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Lynch Rangel Towns with an amendment a bill of the House question is on the passage of the bill. Mahoney (FL) Rehberg Tsongas of the following title: The question was taken; and the Maloney (NY) Reichert Turner H.R. 6532. An act to amend the Internal Manzullo Renzi Udall (CO) Revenue Code of 1986 to restore the Highway Speaker pro tempore announced that Markey Reyes Udall (NM) the ayes appeared to have it. Marshall Richardson Upton Trust Fund balance. Matheson Rodriguez Van Hollen RECORDED VOTE f Matsui Rogers (AL) Visclosky Mr. GRIJALVA. Madam Speaker, I McCarthy (NY) Rogers (MI) Walden (OR) QUESTION OF PERSONAL demand a recorded vote. McCaul (TX) Ros-Lehtinen Walsh (NY) PRIVILEGE McCollum (MN) Ross Walz (MN) A recorded vote was ordered. McCotter Rothman Wasserman Mr. RANGEL. Madam Speaker, I rise The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- McDermott Roybal-Allard Schultz on a question of personal privilege ant to clause 8 of rule XX, this 15- McGovern Ruppersberger Waters under rule IX. minute vote on passage will be fol- McHenry Rush Watson McHugh Ryan (OH) Watt The SPEAKER pro tempore. The lowed by a 5-minute vote on the mo- McIntyre Salazar Waxman Chair has been made aware of a valid tion to suspend the rules with regard to McKeon Sa´ nchez, Linda Weiner basis for the gentleman’s point of per- H.R. 4081. McNerney T. Welch (VT) sonal privilege. McNulty Sanchez, Loretta Weller The vote was taken by electronic de- Meek (FL) Sarbanes Wexler The gentleman from New York is rec- vice, and there were—ayes 299, noes 118, Meeks (NY) Saxton Whitfield (KY) ognized for 1 hour. not voting 16, as follows: Melancon Schakowsky Wilson (OH) (Mr. RANGEL asked and was given Michaud Schiff Wolf [Roll No. 583] Miller (MI) Schmidt Woolsey permission to revise and extend his re- AYES—299 Miller (NC) Schwartz Wu marks.) Miller, Gary Scott (GA) Yarmuth Mr. RANGEL. Not to worry, my Abercrombie Castle Etheridge Miller, George Scott (VA) Young (FL) Ackerman Castor Farr friend and colleagues. I have no inten- Alexander Chandler Fattah tions of keeping you for 1 hour, espe- NOES—118 Allen Childers Ferguson cially at this time of the day. But a Altmire Clarke Filner Aderholt Foxx Myrick Andrews Clay Fortenberry Akin Franks (AZ) Neugebauer couple of weeks ago the leadership of Arcuri Cleaver Fossella Bachmann Gingrey Nunes the minority had asked that I be Baird Clyburn Foster Bachus Gohmert Paul thrown out of the House and censured Baldwin Cohen Frank (MA) Barton (TX) Goode Pearce based on a newspaper story, and I just Barrett (SC) Conyers Frelinghuysen Bilbray Goodlatte Pence Barrow Cooper Gallegly Blackburn Granger Pickering want to thank those people who were Bartlett (MD) Costa Garrett (NJ) Blunt Graves Poe thoughtful enough to think that even Bean Costello Gerlach Boehner Hall (TX) Price (GA) Members of Congress at some times Becerra Courtney Giffords Boozman Hastings (WA) Putnam Berkley Cramer Gilchrest Boustany Heller Radanovich should not rely on newspaper stories, Berry Crowley Gillibrand Brady (TX) Hensarling Regula but rather the Ethics Committee, Biggert Cuellar Gonzalez Broun (GA) Herger Reynolds which is bipartisan. More recently, Bilirakis Cummings Gordon Brown (SC) Hobson Rogers (KY) however, my dear friend JOHN BOEHNER Bishop (GA) Davis (AL) Green, Al Burgess Hoekstra Rohrabacher Bishop (NY) Davis (CA) Green, Gene Burton (IN) Hunter Roskam has asked the Speaker to ask me to Bishop (UT) Davis (IL) Grijalva Buyer Issa Royce step aside as the chairman of the Ways Blumenauer Davis, Lincoln Gutierrez Calvert Johnson, Sam Ryan (WI) and Means Committee. Bonner Davis, Tom Hall (NY) Campbell (CA) Jordan Sali Now I say ‘‘my dear friend John Bono Mack DeFazio Hare Cantor Keller Scalise Boren DeGette Hastings (FL) Carter King (IA) Sensenbrenner Boehner,’’ not as this word is tossed Boswell Delahunt Hayes Chabot Kingston Sessions around in the House and Senate cas- Boucher DeLauro Herseth Sandlin Coble Kline (MN) Shadegg ually. I say it because JOHN BOEHNER Boyd (FL) Dent Higgins Cole (OK) Lamborn Shuster Boyda (KS) Diaz-Balart, L. Hill Conaway Latham Simpson has, for many, many years, been my Brady (PA) Diaz-Balart, M. Hinchey Crenshaw Latta Smith (NE) friend. We have worked so closely to- Braley (IA) Dicks Hirono Cubin Lewis (KY) Souder gether in bipartisan areas that just a Brown, Corrine Dingell Holden Culberson Linder Stearns couple of weeks ago he allowed me to Brown-Waite, Doggett Holt Davis (KY) Lucas Sullivan Ginny Donnelly Honda Davis, David Lungren, Daniel Tancredo strengthen my relationship with JIM Buchanan Doyle Hooley Deal (GA) E. Thornberry MCCRERY on the Ways and Means Com- Butterfield Edwards (MD) Hoyer Doolittle Mack Tiahrt mittee to get unemployment com- Camp (MI) Edwards (TX) Inglis (SC) Drake Marchant Walberg Cannon Ehlers Inslee Dreier McCarthy (CA) Wamp pensation passed, and lauded our ef- Capito Ellison Israel Duncan McMorris Weldon (FL) forts, as I lauded his. Capps Ellsworth Jackson (IL) Emerson Rodgers Westmoreland I look around and I see GEORGE MIL- Capuano Emanuel Jackson-Lee Everett Mica Wilson (NM) LER, who more than once said what a Carnahan Engel (TX) Fallin Miller (FL) Wilson (SC) Carney English (PA) Jefferson Flake Moran (KS) Wittman (VA) straight shooter he has been on Edu- Carson Eshoo Johnson (GA) Forbes Musgrave Young (AK) cation. STENY HOYER has reminded me

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I don’t think he really means or way to go. tions, they would take out hurricane thinks that the Speaker is going to re- JOHN BOEHNER, JOHN BOEHNER, JOHN expenses, they would take out interest, move me from the House of Represent- BOEHNER. On the Tim Russert show, they would take out everything. At the atives. I don’t think that he thinks I what they did to my friend there in end of the thing, whether your place am a threat to this honorable House, saying that he was passing out illegal was used or not used, they would equal- which I am so proud to be a Member of. checks on the floor. A mistake? We all ly distribute the money. Some years it And for those people who say hey, let make them, and we all have to say we was $5,000. Some years it was nothing. the Ethics Committee make the deci- are sorry. But we all don’t have to at- How many times did I use it in the sion, I thank you for myself, for my tack each other, because at the end of nine weeks? I wish I had used it for name, for my friends and for my sup- the day, that is all we may have to do nine weeks. I never spent nine days porters. to each other and get nothing done. down there. I have never spent more But believe it or not, I want to do I am suggesting to you this: Mistakes than four days in any one year, and in this for the House of Representatives. I may have been made by me, and I brief- several years I never was able to get don’t want any Member, Republican or ly want to let you know the issues that there at all. Democrat, that is less politically se- are before the Ethics Committee as re- What has this got to do with the cure than me to go through what I lates to three subjects. And I will be charges and the allegations? The have had to go through for the last sev- brief. charges and the allegation is how did eral weeks, because for them they Some 20 years ago, I was in the Do- he get rid of the mortgage? And the minican Republic. I got a call from a never could survive. They would lose mortgage is that if I had done what I long and dear friend of mine to visit the election. And it won’t be of any- was supposed to have done, I would this place called Punta Cana, Domini- thing that the voters knew. It would be have found some way to find our how can Republic, where he had some what this Congress has done to each the allocation was there. Because le- dream of making this a resort. I didn’t other. gally and theoretically, the reduction want to go. My wife said friendship dic- You know, the Ways and Means Com- of the mortgage meant income was tated it. mittee, we made a special effort to be coming somewhere, even if I didn’t re- I got there and he was telling me civil, even when we disagreed. We are ceive it. so proud, with the support of Speaker about the dream. And I was impressed with his dream, but I said, what the b 1900 PELOSI, of STENY HOYER, and, yes, JOHN heck has that got to do with me? BOEHNER, working with us and trying And I should have found that out be- Well, he says, they want to start, to see what we can get done. cause, at the end of the day, my ac- they want to build some beach houses At the end of this election, this Con- countant tells me after 20 years of re- here, and there is the sand and there is gress is going to have serious things to search there would be no tax liability the beach, and I think it’s a good deal. because of the deduction of the foreign take care of. And we won’t have Demo- I said, it may be a good deal for you, tax, which was higher, because I was an cratic solutions to taxes and health but I really don’t need a beach house American and because of depreciation. and Social Security and the variety of and I can’t afford it. And, besides, They changed it and said that because things with peace and war. We are there is no house here. I sold the house that I was raised in going to have to resolve these issues as He says, no, we haven’t built them that it did not allow me to take full a United States Congress in a bipar- yet. tisan way. There is not going to be any So I said, look, Ted, I don’t have the credit that I could have done for that Democratic way to do it. time. year. It means, at the end of the day, And we are going to have to work to- By the time they showed me the my accountant believes that I would be gether, not because we like each other, renderings, and they told me that it liable for $5,000. Do I take that lightly? but we have a special responsibility to would cost $82,000, I said I wish I had No. the people of the United States to the $82,000. Good-bye. As a Member of Congress, as a public make certain that our reputations may He says, no, if you have got $28,000, servant, I should have a higher stand- be low in terms of production, but if then all they have to do is take the ard than most people. Whether I owed someone doesn’t get health care, rentals from it and reduce the mort- $5,000 or $5 million, it was wrong, but it doesn’t get that Social Security check, gages, and you can only use it for 9 certainly doesn’t mean that I should be or for any reason finds himself without months, but ultimately it would be kicked out of the House and say that I a house, they are not going to say the yours. caused disservice to this august body. I Democrats did it or the Republicans I said, we can talk. just hope none of you have ever made did it. They are going to say that this I refinanced my house. We had no mistakes on your income taxes, be- Congress let them down. It is going to savings, no nothing, and, quite frankly, cause what I have done is I’ve gone be difficult, no matter who is the Presi- I relied on the reputation, as I did then back 20 years and I’ve waived all stat- dent or who is in the leadership. and will now, of a guy whose reputa- utes, and I’m prepared to pay whatever But it does not help to polarize this tion is untouched. price there is, and I hope that at the body and take wild shots at each other, Gradually the mortgage was coming end of the day that will take care of whether they are chairmen or whether down. I had received no financial state- that. That’s the roughest one. they are freshmen, knowing that at the ment. I could not break the culture in The second thing is that one would end of the day you are not going to ac- terms of Dominican and Spanish. I re- have you to believe that I received complish anything substantive, but ceived no money, no check. Never did. some type of a gift in housing, because you are going to make it more difficult But let’s face it, I should have known. the headline is that RANGEL had four for us to get a law. And after this hit the fan, I had my subsidized apartments in New York. Do I say that JOHN BOEHNER knows lawyer to go. He broke the balance and The fact that there is no law in having this? I tell you this: To show you the found out the fact that they didn’t give four subsidized apartments in New depth of my friendship, I am embar- out statements. Some years there was York, of course, is no account to any- rassed that he feels he has to do this. no statement. There was a half a dozen body. I don’t have four apartments. There is no way in the world, based on statements that we have accumulated. Briefly, what happened is that, 20 his knowledge of my love for this And then we took the balance, added to years ago, the kids were grown. We got House, that he would believe that I the mortgage of about $50,000, another tired of paying the bills on our house would do anything to dishonor it. And $20,000 for another room. and getting into oil and doing all those

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:34 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00027 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.070 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 things. My wife said let’s move to an Means Committee, one or the other. ed the expertise that I enjoyed in di- apartment. I’d spent all of my life on Somehow funds were coming in, so I recting fire on the enemy to 18 155-mil- 32nd Street and Lenox Avenue. She hired somebody. We worked down at limeter Howitzers at 75 shell bombs on finds a place on 35th and Lenox Ave- the political club. The money was com- the enemy. So, it was clear that I not nue. I refused to leave Harlem then as ing in. He said he needed a little help. only was unemployed but that I was I do now, and there was a place called He thought that I should open up a unemployable. It was clear in one day Lenox Terrace, where we now live, that headquarters. Well, I don’t agree in when I had my truck full of stuff on had so many vacancies. spending a lot of money, but he said the street in the Garment Center that At that time 20 years ago, there he’d heard that the Lenox Terrace, I joined the Army to avoid. The rain weren’t a whole lot of people who could where I lived, had people living in came; the boxes were scattered all afford not to live in Harlem, who were apartments that were converted but over, and the policeman was cursing rushing to get into Harlem. Crime was that were not commercial for running me out for blocking traffic. Sergeant really high. There were a lot of vacan- McDonald’s and other business. RANGEL was being cursed out on a pub- cies there, but they did have a door- I said, ‘‘Do what you want. We can af- lic street. man, and I felt since I was away from ford to do it.’’ I dropped everything. I went to the home so much that it might provide They got this apartment. A staff of VA, and I said, ‘‘I need some help.’’ some security to my wife. In that two became a staff of three, four and They told me that because I had to go house, people knowing that Alma five, and I guess the Republican cam- back to high school that I couldn’t go would want to leave, there was a pop- paign committee can tell you how suc- to college. I raised so much hell. Fi- ular reverend, a pastor, and he, too, cessful I’ve been. nally, because of the GI Bill—I was a was leaving Harlem and was leaving an It reached the point where they said, high school dropout—I got the training apartment that he had. I did not know ‘‘Look, Congressman. We’ve got too to become a Member of Congress, a and did not care that the apartment many people. There’s no air condi- member of the Ways and Means Com- that he managed to get for us actually tioning here. We need more space. mittee and become its chairman. had been two apartments. He had it as Things are going well. You’re sending Am I overzealous about education? one apartment. I got a lease for one out a lot of checks. We will not renew You bet your life. Do I go everywhere apartment. I paid rent for one apart- the lease.’’ This is before what hap- and tell businesspeople that you owe it ment. There’s no way in the world I pened in the paper. to this country to assist us in making can imagine what it looked like when I said, ‘‘Do what you have to do.’’ certain that Americans can produce, it was two apartments, and I don’t care They spoke with the landlord and ne- that we shouldn’t be embarrassed of what the architect says. Under the law, gotiated: an apartment with him for a having to import people here who have that is one apartment. larger staff, office accommodations in knowledge in science and all of that? I Ten years after I was in the apart- a place that was double the rent, much want America to be as strong as it can ment, my wife was notified by the larger, right there in the Lenox Ter- be, and I’m going to do everything le- landlord—incidentally, he was the one race, which means that everyone knew gally, morally and ethically possible to who was supposed to give me the gift. what they were doing and what other make certain that we support our I wouldn’t know what he looks like. people were doing. We decided it would young people and expose them to edu- I’ve never met him in my life or his be best just to leave the Lenox Terrace cation. agent, but he was saying that there in lieu of what happened because it was This CCNY, this City College of New was a studio apartment next to mine, just too awkward. York, has excelled. Colin Powell and so and did I have any interest in it. They That ends, once and for all, the whole many people had dreams and have suc- were really pushing apartments then. idea of a gift. I paid the maximum rent. ceeded. All I was saying is that we have My wife says she didn’t see any need If I’d decided that because I wanted to thousands of Barack Obamas in the for it. please somebody that I should look for Black community. We have so few who I said, ‘‘Well, let’s talk about this, a marketplace rent, I would not know are willing to get involved in public Alma. You don’t want my political where to go, but I sure am not going to service. They go to Wall Street. They friends to come here and talk in the give the landlord what I think is a make their money and they’re bright. living room. You get so tired of me higher rent because I want to please What I want to do is to encourage mi- doing my work, you know, while you’re somebody as to what is market rent, norities and be able to say, ‘‘Hey, you doing something else. You don’t want but if I’d left the apartment because of don’t have to run for public office, but any smoke in here. I can’t have a card some foolish, stupid reason, the land- please understand the importance of game here. Let’s take a look at this lord would’ve come in, slapped some public service.’’ They said, ‘‘There one room apartment.’’ paint on it and doubled the rent. So, should be a school for you to do that.’’ I took it, and I can tell you that it therefore, it would not be of any assist- I said, ‘‘Well, let’s get a school. Let’s saved my marriage. There’s not a day ance to somebody of a lesser income. do it.’’ They said, ‘‘Let’s do it.’’ when I’m home that I don’t spend some Whatever doubts you may have, Two, three days ago, I heard Sec- time just sitting there. Sometimes it’s which I don’t see how—I told somebody retary Rice talking to some group, and reading. Sometimes it’s studying. show me the gift, and I’ll walk away. she was saying that she goes to so Sometimes the gang comes. Sometimes Leave it to the bipartisan Ethics Com- many countries and that she doesn’t we raise a lot of devil. I pay the max- mittee to decide. It’s not only the right see people in the Foreign Service who imum rent for what cannot be de- and fair thing do. It’s the only thing to look like her. Those who look like the scribed physically as any more than do. gorgeous mosaic of America is not two apartments, but we can get two— The last point gives me a little more abroad. But she said, ‘‘Thanks to Con- the so-called fourth and third apart- difficulty. They are saying that I may gressman RANGEL, we have worked out ments. have used my stationery to solicit a program where we go to the histori- It’s hard for me to admit to those of funds for the City College of New York cally Black colleges where we train you who have a lot of political prob- for an institution that the board of these people there. When they grad- lems that, for most all of my political trustees has named the Charles Rangel uate, they not only have degrees, but life in Congress, I’ve never picked up Public School for Public Service. they are members of the Foreign Serv- the phone to ask anybody to give me I have to let you know that, on No- ice, and they learn to understand the any money because I’d never really had vember 30, 1950, I was shot and left for great contribution they can make to any problems. I did have a guy in dead in Korea, and I came home in ’52. this country.’’ That was what I wanted Washington that would give a fund- I had more medals, more self-esteem to do. raiser—one in Washington and one in than any guy 22 years old should have. I made certain that, in this letter, I New York—but it’s kind of hard, when The only time it was shattered is when did not ask for any public funds or for you’re not challenged, to ask for I went for a job and found out that no- any kind of funds at all, but they said, money, but I guess it was my person- body wanted heroes, that nobody want- because they knew that the reason I ality or my seniority on the Ways and ed infantry men and that nobody want- wanted these not-for-profit people,

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I know in my heart that my I believe that the Ethics Committee going to find some way to do what I do, friend JOHN BOEHNER does not mean needs to do its job, not just in this and I’m going to do it the way the Eth- truly what he has said, and whoever case, but in all cases. And I’ve been ics Committee says to do it, but I hope has put him in the position where he concerned for some time that the Eth- I can get some of you to encourage the felt that he had to say it, hey, it’s cam- ics Committee has not been a func- private sector to do what our govern- paign time. I understand it. It has to tioning committee of the House. I un- ment is not doing. Education is too im- stop somewhere before we leave here. I derstand the current circumstances. portant to leave to the local and State hope it can stop now. We all understand the current cir- cumstances. schools. Corporations have an obliga- I yield back the balance of my time. But I don’t want to condemn the gen- tions to help us to educate our people. b 1915 tleman. I’ve never convicted the gen- Condoleezza Rice said it, and I truly tleman, nor would I, because he is my know that you believe a failure to edu- Mr. BOEHNER. Madam Speaker, I de- friend. But just because he’s my friend cate our young people is a threat to mand a point of personal privilege under the rules. doesn’t mean that I can excuse him our national security. If for whatever from the rules of the House or the law reason the Federal Government is not The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair has not been made aware of the of our land. doing it, everyone ought to do their And so I ask my colleagues to work basis for the point of personal privi- bit. So, whatever the Ethics Com- with us. I believe, like CHARLIE does, lege. Does the gentleman seek recogni- mittee says to do, we have to do. that we, as a Congress, have to find a tion under unanimous consent? Finally, I’ve changed my mind in way to get beyond what’s gone on Mr. BOEHNER. Madam Speaker, I bringing to your attention how they around here over the last 7 or 8 years, ask unanimous consent to speak out of beat up on Mr. BOEHNER on the Tim that we have to find a way to work to- Russert show: where he’s been, how he order for 1 minute. gether. got there and what he violated. At the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there If you look at the issues that CHAR- end of the day, I think I’m trying to objection? LIE and I have worked on, GEORGE MIL- make certain that my presentation There was no objection. LER and I have worked on, and a lot of ends up on as positive a note as I can (Mr. BOEHNER asked and was given other Members that I’ve worked on on because of my longtime respect for my permission to address the House for 1 both sides of the aisle, the big issues of friend. Mr. BOEHNER said it was a big minute.) our country will not get done by one mistake and I regret it. I shouldn’t Mr. BOEHNER. I appreciate all my side or the other. They will only be ad- have done it. It was an old practice in colleagues and their endurance in this. dressed in a bipartisan way if we’re the House that had gone on for a long And you all should know that CHARLIE going to be successful. And we know we time. Well, I think he knows what I’m RANGEL and I are friends. We’ve had have big issues facing this country that talking about. fierce debates. We’ve worked together are being ignored because we’re too If you made a mistake, I may have on many bills, and he’s someone who I busy clawing at each other. made a mistake. talk to virtually every day in this My intent here is not to claw at my I’ll tell you one thing. The judgment House. And it pains me, it pains me to friend from New York. My intent here of our mistakes should not be to attack do what I had to do on behalf of my is to have justice and to have all of us each other. It should not be to defame colleagues. live by the rules of the House. us in front of our family and friends. We all live under a system of laws; I’m sorry that I had to do it, but I Whatever difference that we had with not only all of us, but all of the Amer- have a job to do on behalf of my col- each other, that’s why we have the ican people. Those of us that work in leagues in this Chamber. I believe all of Ethics Committee. So, at the end of this Chamber, we work under a set of us are being held accountable and the day, that’s how it’s going to be re- laws and a set of rules. And when the should be held accountable. solved. We don’t have that many issues rules are violated, the court system Yes, I’ve made mistakes, and I’ve that we’ve got to work with, perhaps, doesn’t take into effect whether you paid for them. I just think that the in a bipartisan way. Whatever we have were aware of the rules or you were sooner we get this cleaned up, the bet- to do because of the election we have aware of the laws. You either violated ter. to do, and I don’t expect this short talk the laws or you didn’t. But, in the meantime, in fairness to is going to change anything, but I do And I say to my friend from New the Members of the House, that step- hope there is one thing that we keep in York that, considering the stories that ping aside would, in fact, be the right mind: that for those of us who are occurred over the summer about the thing to do. going to be here next year with a new rent-controlled apartments, the fact f administration, the last thing we have that one of them was a campaign of- PREVENT ALL CIGARETTE to do is to threaten each other politi- fice, you could conjure up the fact that TRAFFICKING ACT because it was rent-subsidized that it cally and destroy the friendships and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- the camaraderie that we have worked was, in fact, a campaign gift. And this ant to clause 8 of rule XX, the unfin- so hard to try to restore. latest round of stories—— ished business is the vote on the mo- I conclude by letting you know that Mr. RANGEL. Will you yield just on tion to suspend the rules and pass the some of you old-timers may know a that one point? bill, H.R. 4081, as amended, on which guy named Guy Vander Jagt. Guy Mr. BOEHNER. I will be happy to the yeas and nays were ordered. Vander Jagt was chairperson of the Re- yield. The Clerk read the title of the bill. publican Campaign Committee. Could Mr. RANGEL. Rent-subsidized. If you The SPEAKER pro tempore. The he speak? Could he raise money? Was lived a million years you could not tell question is on the motion offered by he partisan? Guy Vander Jagt was my where one subsidy came from. Sta- the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. friend. Guy Vander Jagt would come to bilization and subsidies are entirely SCOTT) that the House suspend the my fund-raisers. I would stop over to two different things. There is no sub- rules and pass the bill, H.R. 4081, as his. His wife and my wife are the best sidy involved. It’s a cap. amended. of friends. Even though Guy Vander Mr. BOEHNER. Reclaiming my time. This will be a 5-minute vote. Jagt is gone, they asked me to speak in And then this latest round of stories The vote was taken by electronic de- the Congress to say how he was loved that the gentleman from New York was vice, and there were—yeas 379, nays 12, by both sides. Was he a good Repub- kind enough to share with all of us not voting 42, as follows:

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:34 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00029 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.073 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7988 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 [Roll No. 584] Richardson Sherman Towns AUTHORIZING THE SPEAKER TO Rodriguez Shimkus Tsongas YEAS—379 Rogers (AL) Shuler Turner ENTERTAIN MOTIONS TO SUS- Rogers (KY) Shuster Udall (CO) PEND THE RULES RELATING TO Abercrombie Diaz-Balart, M. Knollenberg Rogers (MI) Simpson Udall (NM) Ackerman Dingell Kucinich H.R. 6532 ON LEGISLATIVE DAY Rohrabacher Sires Upton Aderholt Doggett Kuhl (NY) OF THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, Ros-Lehtinen Skelton Van Hollen Akin Donnelly LaHood Roskam Slaughter Visclosky 2008 Alexander Doolittle Lamborn Ross Smith (NE) Walberg Mr. MCDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I ask Allen Doyle Lampson Rothman Smith (NJ) Walden (OR) Altmire Drake Langevin Royce Smith (TX) Walsh (NY) unanimous consent that the Speaker Andrews Dreier Larsen (WA) Ruppersberger Smith (WA) Walz (MN) be authorized to entertain motions to Arcuri Duncan Larson (CT) Ryan (OH) Snyder Wamp Bachmann Edwards (MD) Latham suspend the rules relating to H.R. 6532 Ryan (WI) Souder Waters on the legislative day of Thursday, Bachus Edwards (TX) LaTourette Sali Space Watson Baird Ehlers Latta Sa´ nchez, Linda Speier Watt September 11, 2008. Baldwin Ellison Lewis (CA) T. Spratt Waxman The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Barrett (SC) Emanuel Lewis (GA) Sanchez, Loretta Stark Weiner MURPHY of Connecticut). Is there ob- Barrow Emerson Lewis (KY) Sarbanes Stearns Welch (VT) Bartlett (MD) Engel Lipinski Scalise Stupak Weldon (FL) jection to the request of the gentleman Bean English (PA) LoBiondo Schakowsky Sutton Weller from Washington? Berkley Eshoo Loebsack Schiff Tancredo Wexler There was no objection. Berman Etheridge Lowey Schmidt Tanner Whitfield (KY) Berry Everett Lucas Schwartz Tauscher Wilson (NM) f Biggert Fallin Lungren, Daniel Scott (GA) Taylor Wilson (OH) PERSONAL EXPLANATION Bilirakis Farr E. Scott (VA) Terry Wilson (SC) Bishop (GA) Fattah Lynch Sensenbrenner Thompson (CA) Wittman (VA) Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, Bishop (NY) Ferguson Mack Sessions Thompson (MS) Wolf I was in my district this morning and Bishop (UT) Filner Mahoney (FL) Sestak Thornberry Woolsey Blumenauer Forbes Maloney (NY) Shadegg Tiahrt Wu was unable to return until after votes Blunt Fortenberry Manzullo Shays Tiberi Yarmuth were called on rollcall 576, 577, 578, and Boehner Fossella Marchant Shea-Porter Tierney Young (FL) 579. I would have voted ‘‘yea’’ on all of Bonner Foster Markey those bills. Bono Mack Foxx Marshall NAYS—12 Boozman Frank (MA) Matheson f Boren Franks (AZ) Matsui Barton (TX) Ellsworth Oberstar Boswell Frelinghuysen McCarthy (CA) Broun (GA) Flake Paul AUTHORIZING THE CLERK TO Boucher Gallegly McCarthy (NY) Campbell (CA) Kingston Sullivan MAKE CORRECTIONS IN EN- Boustany Garrett (NJ) McCaul (TX) Coble McHenry Young (AK) Boyd (FL) Gerlach McCollum (MN) GROSSMENT OF H.R. 3667, Boyda (KS) Giffords McCotter NOT VOTING—42 MISSISQUOI AND TROUT RIVERS Brady (PA) Gilchrest McDermott Baca Hodes Rangel WILD AND SCENIC RIVER STUDY Brady (TX) Gillibrand McGovern Becerra Hulshof Renzi ACT OF 2008 Braley (IA) Gingrey McHugh Bilbray Johnson, Sam Brown (SC) Gohmert McIntyre Reyes Blackburn Lee Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Mr. Speak- Brown, Corrine Goode McKeon Roybal-Allard Buyer Levin er, I ask unanimous consent that the Brown-Waite, Goodlatte McMorris Rush Cardoza Linder Ginny Gordon Rodgers Salazar Clerk be authorized to make technical Cazayoux Lofgren, Zoe Buchanan Granger McNerney Saxton corrections in the engrossment of H.R. Cramer McCrery Burgess Graves McNulty Serrano Dicks Murtha 3667, including corrections in spelling, Burton (IN) Green, Al Meek (FL) Solis Feeney Napolitano Butterfield Green, Gene Meeks (NY) Vela´ zquez punctuation, section and title num- Gonzalez Ortiz Calvert Hall (NY) Melancon Wasserman bering, cross-referencing, conforming Grijalva Pastor Camp (MI) Hall (TX) Mica Gutierrez Pence Schultz amendments to the table of contents Cannon Hare Michaud Harman Peterson (MN) Westmoreland and short titles, and the insertion of Cantor Hastings (FL) Miller (FL) Hinojosa Pitts Capito Hastings (WA) Miller (MI) appropriate headings. Capps Hayes Miller (NC) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Capuano Heller Miller, Gary b 1941 objection to the request of the gen- Carnahan Hensarling Miller, George tleman from Vermont? Carney Herger Mitchell Carson Herseth Sandlin Mollohan So (two-thirds being in the affirma- There was no objection. Carter Higgins Moore (KS) tive) the rules were suspended and the f Castle Hill Moore (WI) bill, as amended, was passed. Castor Hinchey Moran (KS) BURN THE BOOKS PART II Chabot Hirono Moran (VA) The result of the vote was announced Chandler Hobson Murphy (CT) as above recorded. (Mr. POE asked and was given per- Childers Hoekstra Murphy, Patrick mission to address the House for 1 Clarke Holden Murphy, Tim A motion to reconsider was laid on minute.) Clay Holt Musgrave the table. Mr. POE. Mr. Speaker, our country Cleaver Honda Myrick Clyburn Hooley Nadler takes pride in the first amendment Cohen Hoyer Neal (MA) f right of free speech and free press, but Cole (OK) Hunter Neugebauer it seems that philosophy is no longer Conaway Inglis (SC) Nunes Conyers Inslee Obey PERSONAL EXPLANATION applicable when it comes to criticizing Cooper Israel Olver certain religions. Costa Issa Pallone Ms. LEE. Madam Speaker, due to personal Random House Publishing has de- Costello Jackson (IL) Pascrell matters, today I missed rollcall vote No. 576 cided not to print the novel ‘‘The Jewel Courtney Jackson-Lee Payne Crenshaw (TX) Pearce on ordering the previous questions to provide of Medina’’ because Islamic radicals Crowley Jefferson Perlmutter for consideration of H.R. 3667, rollcall vote are a bit upset. Apparently, American Cubin Johnson (GA) Peterson (PA) No. 577 on passage of H. Res. 1419 to pro- author Sherry Jones hurt some feelings Cuellar Johnson (IL) Petri Culberson Johnson, E. B. Pickering vide for consideration of H.R. 3667, rollcall by writing a fiction book about Cummings Jones (NC) Platts vote No. 578 on final passage of H.R. 1527, Muhammad’s child bride Aisha. Now Davis (AL) Jordan Poe rollcall vote No. 579 on final passage of S. Random House has been intimidated Davis (CA) Kagen Pomeroy 2617. Had I been present, I would have voted into not publishing the book because a Davis (IL) Kanjorski Porter Davis (KY) Kaptur Price (GA) ‘‘yea.’’ On rollcall No. 580, on the motion that small radical group of Islamic individ- Davis, David Keller Price (NC) the Committee rise, rollcall vote No. 581, on uals object. Random House has given in Davis, Lincoln Kennedy Pryce (OH) agreeing to the Grijalva amendment to H.R. to the threats of the religious speech Davis, Tom Kildee Putnam Deal (GA) Kilpatrick Radanovich 3667, and rollcall vote No. 583, on final pas- and press police. DeFazio Kind Rahall sage of H.R. 3667, I would have voted ‘‘aye.’’ Author Salman Rushdie, who was DeGette King (IA) Ramstad On rollcall vote No. 581, on agreeing to the threatened by these same type of indi- Delahunt King (NY) Regula Grijalva Amendment to H.R. 3667, and rollcall viduals years ago because of his book, DeLauro Kirk Rehberg Dent Klein (FL) Reichert vote No. 584, on final passage of H.R. 4081, ‘‘The Satanic Verses,’’ said that, ‘‘This Diaz-Balart, L. Kline (MN) Reynolds I would have voted ‘‘yea’’. is censorship by fear.’’

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Radicals order of the House, the following Mem- to be attacked in the strike, including ‘‘parts cannot control and suppress the first bers will be recognized for 5 minutes for missiles and launching equipment.’’ amendment because they don’t agree each. ‘‘Information from the AIVD operation has with what people say or print. Too bad been shared in recent years with the CIA,’’ f book publishers have given up their the report said. right to a free press because now a WE SHOULDN’T USE FORCE On Saturday, Iran’s Deputy Chief of Staff novel offends some religious group. AGAINST IRAN General Masoud Jazayeri warned that should the United States or Israel attack Iran, it And that’s just the way it is. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a would be the start of another World War. f previous order of the House, the gen- On Friday, Ma’ariv reported that Israel GIVE US A GOOD ENERGY BILL tleman from Washington (Mr. had made a strategic decision to deny Iran MCDERMOTT) is recognized for 5 min- military nuclear capability and would not (Mr. BURTON of Indiana asked and utes. hesitate ‘‘to take whatever means nec- was given permission to address the essary’’ to prevent Teheran from achieving Mr. MCDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, the its nuclear goals. House for 1 minute and to revise and sounds we are hearing and the signals extend his remarks.) According to the report, whether the we are seeing from the administration United States and Western countries succeed Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Speak- remind me of the months leading up to er, during the August recess, I think a in thwarting the Islamic Republic’s nuclear the invasion of Iraq. For all those sup- ambitions diplomatically, through sanc- lot of my colleagues got the message porters of the President who claimed 6 tions, or whether a U.S. strike on Iran is from their constituents that they want years ago that military intervention in eventually decided upon, Jerusalem has an energy bill, they want energy inde- Iraq would be the U.S.’s last option, we begun preparing for a separate, independent pendence, and they want us to start now know the war was the first, pre- military strike. working on that right now. ordained and only option of the admin- I also enter into the RECORD the Au- I talked to some of my Democrat col- istration. They just had to cook the gust 29 Jerusalem Post story entitled, leagues today, and I had an indication books to make the American people be- ‘‘Israel reaches strategic decision not from them that we might have an en- lieve otherwise. to let Iran go nuclear.’’ ergy bill next week. All I wanted to say America has paid a very steep price: [From the Jerusalem Post, online edition, to the leadership on the Democrat side America has lost lives; Iraqis have lost Aug. 29, 2008] is, Give us an energy bill that we can lives; $1 trillion lost; American moral ISRAEL REACHES STRATEGIC DECISION NOT TO really support. Please don’t give us a leadership in the world lost. And we LET IRAN GO NUCLEAR facade. Don’t give us the frosting on cannot afford to let this administra- (By JPost.com Staff) the cake without the cake. We want an tion do it again with a military strike Israel will not agree to allow Iran to energy bill that will move us toward against Iran before the President and achieve nuclear weapons and if the grains energy independence that will allow us Vice President leave office in January. start running out in the proverbial egg to work and get energy from a whole The news of late is deeply troubling, timer, Jerusalem will not hesitate to take whatever means necessary to prevent Iran host of sources, as well as the alter- and we have a responsibility to remind native sources that we’re talking about from achieving its nuclear goals, the govern- the Americans of the administration’s ment has recently decided in a special dis- in the new technologies. penchant to conduct diplomacy with Give us a good energy bill. Don’t give cussion. bullets and bombs. us a piece of junk that we can’t vote According to the Israeli daily Ma’ariv, I believe the people have the right to whether the United States and Western for. know and the right to demand this ad- countries will succeed in toppling the aya- f ministration, and the Republican tick- tollah regime diplomatically, through sanc- b 1945 et for the Presidency, declare there be tions, or whether an American strike on Iran will eventually be decided upon, Jerusalem no military strike against Iran by U.S. NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT ON AN has put preparations for a separate, inde- ENERGY POLICY forces or on our behalf by a U.S. ally pendent military strike by Israel in high like Israel unless the Congress votes gear. (Mr. BRADY of Texas asked and was for it. So far, Israel has not received American given permission to address the House My concerns come directly out of the authorization to use U.S.-controlled Iraqi for 1 minute.) reporting by credible, mainstream airspace, nor has the defense establishment Mr. BRADY of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I international news organizations that been successful in securing the purchase of hoped to comment on the Democrat en- have built their reputation on credi- advanced U.S.-made warplanes which could ergy bill tonight, but it is still under facilitate an Israeli strike. bility. The Americans have offered Israel permis- construction in the back rooms. I enter into the RECORD a September What I don’t understand is why this sion to use a global early warning radar sys- 1 story from the Jerusalem Post. The tem, implying that the U.S. is pushing Israel Congress, this Democrat Congress, headline is: ‘‘Dutch intel: U.S. to strike to settle for defensive measures only. stands in the way of the American peo- Iran in coming weeks.’’ Because of Israel’s lack of strategic depth, ple and does not allow a straight up-or- [From the Jerusalem Post, Sept. 1, 2008] Jerusalem has consistently warned over the down vote on exploring for more en- pat years it will not settle for a ‘wait and DUTCH INTEL: U.S. TO STRIKE IRAN IN COMING ergy here in America. see’ approach and retaliate in case of attack, WEEKS Our Republican plan is simple: use but rather use preemption to prevent any less energy, find more sources here in (By JPost.com Staff) risk of being hit in the first place. America, conserve more, bring the re- The Dutch intelligence service, the AIVD, Ephraim Sneh a veteran Labor MK which newables online, but let’s explore more has called off an operation aimed at infil- has left the party recently, has sent a docu- trating and sabotaging Iran’s weapons indus- ment to both U.S. presidential candidates, for oil and gas in our deep ocean waters try due to an assessment that a U.S. attack John McCain and Barack Obama. The eight- and arctic reserve. That’s the only way on the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program is point document states that ‘‘there is no gov- we can have an affordable bridge to the imminent, according to a report in the coun- ernment in Jerusalem that would ever rec- future. We can reduce our dependence try’s De Telegraaf newspaper on Friday. oncile itself to a nuclear Iran. When it is on foreign oil, and again, give some The report claimed that the Dutch oper- clear Iran is on the verge of acquiring nu- help to the families and small busi- ation had been ‘‘extremely successful,’’ and clear weapons, an Israeli military strike to nesses and school districts across this had been stopped because the U.S. military prevent this will be seriously considered.’’ According to Ma’ariv, Sneh offered the two country who are suffering because of was planning to hit targets that were ‘‘con- nected with the Dutch espionage action.’’ candidates the ‘‘sane, cheap and the only op- high gas prices. The impending air-strike on Iran was to be tion that does not necessitate bloodshed.’’ Now is the time to act. Now is the carried out by unmanned aircraft ‘‘within To prevent Iran’s nuclear aspirations, Sneh time. We need a straight up-or-down weeks,’’ the report claimed, quoting ‘‘well wrote, ‘‘real’’ sanctions applied in concert by vote. placed’’ sources. the U.S. and Europe is necessary. A total

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We security of our own Nation. is a year and a half to two years, until 2010. must not let that happen. Yes, Mr. Speaker, I’m talking about Sneh also visited Switzerland and Austria The current leadership in Iran has the southern border with Mexico, and last week in an attempt to lobby those two few, if any, friends in this House today, I’m talking about the northern border states. Both countries have announced mas- and I am not one of them. But we can- of Canada. Yet every day we still have sive long-term investments in Iranian gas not solve every challenge that con- hundreds of people crossing into the and oil fields for the next decade. United States illegally. It’s an invasion ‘‘Talk of the Jewish Holocaust and Israel’s fronts us with military confrontation. security doesn’t impress these guys,’’ Sneh And we cannot meet other challenges into our country. Without permission said wryly. when our moral high ground has turned people are coming into this country, Hearing his hosts speak of their future in- into the shifting sands during this ad- and they’re here for all purposes. Sure vestments, Sneh replied quietly ‘‘it’s a ministration. we hear about those who are over here shame, because Ido will light all this up.’’ He When Russia invades Georgia, who in trying to look for jobs, that supposedly was referring to Maj. Gen. Ido Nehushtan, the world is going to listen to the rhet- Americans won’t take. the recently appointed commander of the oric of a U.S. President who invaded But there are also other people com- Israeli Air Force and the man most likely to ing over here. We get the good, the bad be the one to orchestrate Israel’s attack on Iraq? Iran’s nuclear facilities, should this become When Iraq says set a timetable to and the ugly because we don’t secure the necessity. leave and this President says no, who our borders, and right now we’re get- ‘‘Investing in Iran in 2008,’’ Sneh told his in the world is going to listen to a ting a lot of bad and ugly. Mr. Speaker, Austrian hosts, ‘‘is like investing in Krups President who says Iraq is a sovereign if you don’t believe me, I will take you Steelworks in 1938, it’s a high risk invest- Nation? down to the Texas-Mexico border and ment.’’ The Austrians, according to Sneh, And when this administration says show you how the violence has gotten turned pale. they aren’t planning a military strike worse and worse because this Nation In related news, Israel Radio reported that Iran has finished installing an additional against Iran, why would anyone in the refuses to protect its own border from 4,000 centrifuges in the Natanz uranium en- world believe it when the fine print people coming in without permission. richment facility. The Islamic Republic also says all the options are still on the That’s very unfortunate. announced it will install an additional 3,000 table? We are in a Presidential campaign. centrifuges in coming months. Instead of occupying Iraq, the U.S. We hear a lot of talk about all kinds of The pan-Arabic Al Kuds al Arabi reported should be occupying the moral high issues, but yet I have not heard from Friday that Iran has equipped Hizbullah with ground, and we can start by stopping either Presidential candidate about a longer range missiles than those it had be- any effort to use force against Iran. plan to secure our borders. They’re fore the Second Lebanon War and also im- Let’s do it today before it’s too late. talking about everything else. I’d be proved the terror group’s targeting capabili- ties. We need, Mr. Speaker, a vote before we glad to take either one or both of them According to the report, which The Jeru- do anything against Iran. down to the Texas-Mexico border and salem Post could not verify independently, f show them what it’s like, the porous Hizbullah would begin a massive rocket on- border, because we don’t protect the slaught on targets reaching deep into Israel’s WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR sovereignty of our own Nation. civilian underbelly in case the Jewish State BORDERS But yet we’re concerned about the would launch an attack on Iran. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a Republic of Georgia halfway around These and other news stories should previous order of the House, the gen- the world and their border. Doesn’t remind us that this administration re- tleman from Texas (Mr. POE) is recog- make much sense to me. We should be mains in office for several months but nized for 5 minutes. just as concerned about our own bor- years ago forfeited their trust with the Mr. POE. Mr. Speaker, recently this ders as we are about borders of other American people over the Iraq War. country has been very concerned about people and give the money to our own What is especially worrisome to me something that’s taking place in lands people on our own border to secure it. is that the administration has shifted far, far away. It seems as though that We send $1 billion quickly to the Re- the Iraq war to the air in an effort to the Russians have decided to invade public of Georgia. What could our bor- make it an antiseptic war that might the Republic of Georgia. Many Ameri- der patrol agents do with $1 billion on be more acceptable to the American cans didn’t even know where the Re- the Texas-Mexico border? They could people. We’re grateful that U.S. casual- public of Georgia was. Now, most of us do a whole lot more. And they’re not ties in Iraq are down significantly, but know where it is and where it’s lo- getting it. They’re not getting the sup- when a war should never have been cated. port that they need. They’re doing the started, every single casualty is a price In fact, the government has been best job they can. The sheriffs all along too high. doing much lately, talking about this the border, from San Diego all the way And today, the U.S. is an unwelcome invasion of another country and very to Brownsville, they’re doing the best occupier, and the administration is ig- concerned about the people of South they can. noring the wishes of the elected Iraqi Ossetia that have now occupied or have But let me tell you something, Mr. Government to set a date to leave. In- their country or territory occupied by Speaker, the drug cartels have more stead, the White House is trying to run the Russians. In fact, the country is so money, they outgun our border secu- their country and continue this war. upset about this, our country, we have rity officials, and they’re more tena- Bombs falling from 30,000 feet have sent $1 billion to Georgia to help Geor- cious and they’re doing everything the same devastating impact on inno- gia, supposedly for humanitarian aid. they can to come into the United cent Iraq civilians as bullets and bombs But we seem to be somewhat con- States illegally. Yes, we’re getting all at street level. We just don’t hear cerned—and our rhetoric as a Nation is of them, we’re getting everybody be- about it much in the American news that one sovereign country has invaded cause we refuse to secure our border. media. But I hear about it from people the sovereign country of another, con- And we don’t need to do a whole lot in the Middle East who wonder if we cerned about the borders of the Repub- except enforce the laws we already will ever leave Iraq and worry that an lic of Georgia. have. It’s already illegal to come into antiseptic aerial war will be used It’s interesting to me that we are the United States without permission. against Iran. concerned about the sanctity and sov- Why don’t we enforce that law? We are Where once we stood tall on the ereignty of other Nations and their trying to enforce the border security of moral high ground, now decent people borders, but yet back here at home we Georgia. Let’s enforce the border secu- the world over question our motives, seem not to care about the sovereignty rity of our own Nation. That’s the pub- our resolve, and our moral leadership. and sanctity of our own borders. We lic duty our government has.

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His tes- of them, Mr. Speaker, cried and screamed as with that issue until we secure the bor- timony against the agents has been they died, but because it was amniotic fluid der. proven completely unreliable. passing over the vocal cords instead of air, we One of the things we ought to do is Those of us who have urged a pardon couldn’t hear them. enforce the rule of law, and if busi- for Ramos and Compean will continue All of them had at least four things in com- nesses choose to hire folks that are il- to support them in their future legal mon. First, they were each just little babies legally in the country and they know appeals, and we will work tirelessly to who had done nothing wrong to anyone, and they’re illegal, those business owners ensure that the miscarriage of justice each one of them died a nameless and lonely need to be prosecuted under current is corrected. The details of this case de- death. And each one of their mothers, whether law. We see a few of those CEOs be serve an unbiased review by the U.S. she realizes it or not, will never be quite the carted off to jail in handcuffs, maybe Department of Justice. I have also same. And all the gifts that these children they’ll quit hiring folks that are ille- asked JOHN CONYERS, chairman of the might have brought to humanity are now lost gally in the country. That’s just one House Judiciary Committee, to hold forever. Yet even in the glare of such tragedy, answer, but it’s already the law. hearings to examine the prosecution of this generation still clings to a blind, invincible So I encourage our government: en- these agents who were doing their job ignorance while history repeats itself and our force the law, protect our borders, se- to protect our border. own silent genocide mercilessly annihilates the cure our Nation first. That is the duty, Questions surrounding the prosecu- most helpless of all victims, those yet unborn. obligation, and moral duty of our gov- tion of this case deserve to be an- Mr. Speaker, perhaps it’s time for those of ernment. swered. For example, why was not the us in this Chamber to remind ourselves of why And that’s just the way it is. jury allowed to hear crucial evidence we are really all here. Thomas Jefferson said, ‘‘The care of human life and its happiness and f that the smuggler was a repeated of- not its destruction is the chief and only object The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a fender? And why did the prosecutor of good government.’’ The phrase in the 14th previous order of the House, the gen- charge the agents under a statute that was intended for violent criminals car- Amendment capsulizes our entire Constitution. tleman from New Jersey (Mr. PALLONE) It says, ‘‘No State shall deprive any person of is recognized for 5 minutes. rying guns, not for law enforcement of- ficers acting in the line of duty? life, liberty or property without due process of (Mr. PALLONE addressed the House. law.’’ Mr. Speaker, protecting the lives of our His remarks will appear hereafter in Mr. Speaker, nothing can erase the innocent citizens and their constitutional rights the Extensions of Remarks.) suffering these agents have undergone and the months they have spent in is why we are all here. f prison in solitary confinement away The bedrock foundation of this Republic is the clarion declaration of the self-evident truth UNJUST PROSECUTION OF from their families, but I want the that all human beings are created equal and FORMER U.S. BORDER PATROL families of Ramos and Compean to endowed by their Creator with the unalienable AGENTS RAMOS AND COMPEAN know that my colleagues on both sides of the political aisle and I will con- rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happi- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a tinue to do all we can to see this mis- ness. Every conflict and battle our Nation has previous order of the House, the gen- carriage of justice corrected. It is my ever faced can be traced to our commitment tleman from North Carolina (Mr. hope and prayer that one day soon to this core, self-evident truth. JONES) is recognized for 5 minutes. these two heros will be home with their It has made us the beacon of hope for the Mr. JONES. Mr. Speaker, yesterday, families. entire world. Mr. Speaker, it is who we are. I met with Monica Ramos, the wife of Mr. Speaker, I close by asking God to And yet today another day has passed, and imprisoned U.S. border patrol agent continue to bless our men and women we in this body have failed again to honor that Ignacio Ramos. I also met with her fa- in uniform and their families. And I foundational commitment. We have failed our ther, Mr. Joe Loya. ask God to please continue to bless the sworn oath and our God-given responsibility As the Members of this House are families of agents Ramos and Compean. as we broke faith with nearly 4,000 more inno- aware, in February of 2006, Agents And I ask God to continue to bless cent American babies who died today without Ramos and Compean were convicted of America. the protection we should have given them. shooting and wounding a Mexican drug So Mr. Speaker, let me conclude this Sun- smuggler who brought $1 million worth f set Memorial in the hope that perhaps some- of marijuana across our border into The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a one new who heard it tonight will finally em- Texas. The two agents were sentenced previous order of the House, the gentle- brace the truth that abortion really does kill lit- to 11 and 12 years in prison respec- woman from California (Ms. WOOLSEY) tle babies; that it hurts mothers in ways that tively. They have been in Federal pris- is recognized for 5 minutes. we can never express; and that 13,015 days on, in solitary confinement, for 595 (Ms. WOOLSEY addressed the House. spent killing nearly 50 million unborn children days. Her remarks will appear hereafter in in America is enough; and that it is time that Mr. Speaker, I continue to be dis- the Extensions of Remarks.) we stood up together again, and remembered tressed by the actions of U.S. Attorney f that we are the same America that rejected Johnny Sutton and the prosecutors in human slavery and marched into Europe to ar- SUNSET MEMORIAL this case. rest the Nazi Holocaust; and we are still cou- Like thousands of Americans across The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a rageous and compassionate enough to find a the country, I was extremely dis- previous order of the House, the gen- better way for mothers and their unborn ba- appointed by the ruling announced on tleman from Arizona (Mr. FRANKS) is bies than abortion on demand. July 28, 2008, by the Fifth Circuit Court recognized for 5 minutes. Mr. Speaker, as we consider the plight of of Appeals. The Court affirmed all con- Mr. FRANKS of Arizona. Mr. Speaker, I unborn America tonight, may we each remind victions except those for tampering stand once again before this House with yet ourselves that our own days in this sunshine with an official proceeding, but this another Sunset Memorial. of life are also numbered and that all too soon case is not closed. It is September 10, 2008 in the land of the each one of us will walk from these Chambers free and the home of the brave, and before for the very last time. b 2000 the sun set today in America, almost 4,000 And if it should be that this Congress is al- A conviction secured on the testi- more defenseless unborn children were killed lowed to convene on yet another day to come, mony of a known drug smuggler should by abortion on demand. That’s just today, Mr. may that be the day when we finally hear the not stand. The same drug smuggler Speaker. That’s more than the number of in- cries of innocent unborn children. May that be who told the Ramos and Compean jury nocent lives lost on September 11 in this the day when we find the humanity, the cour- that he did not carry a gun the day of country, only it happens every day. age, and the will to embrace together our the shooting also told the jury he was It has now been exactly 13,015 days since human and our constitutional duty to protect just a one-time offender who needed the tragedy called Roe v. Wade was first these, the least of our tiny, little American

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:41 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00033 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.081 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H7992 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 brothers and sisters from this murderous Harvard and Columbia have used the Mr. KAGEN. Mr. Speaker, I rise this scourge upon our Nation called abortion on reprogramming protocol to create 21 evening to present some of the stories demand. disease-specific stem cell lines that from northeast Wisconsin, a region in It is September 10, 2008, 13,015 days since will enable researchers to intimately the country known as ‘‘Paper Valley.’’ Roe versus Wade first stained the foundation study diseases such as Lou Gehrig’s We have, for over 150 years in Wis- of this Nation with the blood of its own chil- disease, Type I diabetes, Parkinson’s consin, been the leaders in the paper dren; this in the land of the free and the home and muscular dystrophy. And it is im- industry, not just paper manufac- of the brave. portant to note that this technique turing, but paper research, designing f also does not require the creation, de- new ways and new methods of manu- struction or even the presence of facturing and using paper products all STEM CELL RESEARCH human embryos. These cells may not throughout the world. We have led the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a be ready to transplant into humans in way because we’ve invested our edu- previous order of the House, the gen- the near term, but they will be avail- cational system, our time and energy tleman from Florida (Mr. WELDON) is able for research today and for use in in developing the industry. And now, recognized for 5 minutes. screening for drugs. across the country, all the paper indus- Mr. WELDON of Florida. Mr. Speak- So in a few short months, the prom- try is imperilled because of unfair, un- er, this summer has been a breath-tak- ise of regenerative medicine comes balanced trade deals, and a trading ing one for stem cell researchers closer to reality. Just last year, sci- partner that breaks the rules, and that around the world, but not because of entists and cloning advocates told us is Communist China. embryonic stem cells or cloning. Build- that we had to do human cloning—or at Recently, in November, the Inter- ing on important work published last least to create cloned human em- national Trade Commission ruled that year showing that it is possible to re- bryos—so that we could accomplish there was illegal paper coming into the program an adult cell back to its these two goals that were deemed es- United States, but there was no dam- primitive embryonic-like state, re- sential for moving regenerative medi- age, no damages to the paper industry searchers led by Doug Melton at Har- cine forward; creating disease-specific here in these United States. Well, vard University have done what was cell lines, and regenerating stem cells shortly thereafter, New Page Corpora- thought impossible only a few short that could be a perfect match for pa- tion closed the Niagara Paper Mill in years ago. Melton and his team used tients affected by these diseases. Niagara, Wisconsin, displacing hun- mice to show that it is possible to di- Both of these goals have been accom- dreds of workers who had been there rectly reprogram support cells or exo- plished with the reprogramming pro- for generations. crine cells of the pancreas into insulin- tocol; no cloning, no human embryo More recently, several days ago, in producing beta cells without ever re- stem cells required. To say it another Kimberly, Wisconsin, the Kimberly moving any cells from the pancreas. way, there is no medical reason to pro- Mill—and you’ve heard of Kimberly Amazingly, it appears that one adult ceed with research into cloning human Clark, you’ve heard of Kleenex, you’ve cell type has been directly and specifi- embryos for their stem cells because heard of other paper products and cally transformed into another adult that science is obsolete, it is more Huggies and diapers—listen, Kimberly, cell type. In other words, a simple in- cumbersome, it is more expensive. We the only mill that they’ve had, has jection of three critical reprogramming have a better, quicker, easier way to do been closed and shut down, shut down factors successfully produced insulin- it. because of the illegal competition from producing beta cells and gave patients Now, I will note that these research- Asian governments like both South with diabetes and their families new ers who were involved with these Korea and China. reason to hope in the power of regen- breath-taking breakthroughs have The decision by the International erative medicine. done the politically correct thing and Trade Commission was that there were Melton and his colleagues have have said we still have to move forward no damages. Well, I beg to differ. In my brought us one step closer to what with embryo stem cell research for office, I have a scroll signed by nearly many have called the ‘‘holy grail’’ of compelling reasons. What those com- 5,000 people from Kimberly and the sur- regenerative medicine. He has shown pelling reasons are I do not know. And rounding villages who have been dam- that, in principle, it is possible to in- I disagree with them. It cannot be de- aged. They are real people with real duce the body to heal itself by re- nied that research is moving forward at damages. One of the families, the Van programming one cell type into an- a breakneck speed, and the Bush policy Zeelands, are here with me in picture other. Imagine that; your beta cells is still fully in place. form. Bruce and his wife Nancy have can no longer make insulin and you are This work also lends more support three children, Alicia, Scott and diabetic, perhaps because of immune for all the adult stem cell work that we Courtney. And here is his statement destruction of your insulin-producing have been talking about in this body which I read on the floor this morning, cells like in Type I diabetes, or perhaps for years. For years, embryonic stem ‘‘It turned our life upside down. Work- because, like in Type II diabetes, your cell research advocates have claimed ing at one company for 28 years and insulin-producing cells have just given that only embryonic stem cells can be having no other skills to compete in up. transformed this way. Now we have di- this horrible job market. My wife is If the work Melton describes can be rect evidence that it is not necessary. struggling to find a full-time job now. reproduced in human patients, diabetes Science is moving beyond the debate. We cannot help out our three kids with patients would have to receive a simple Science is taking us in a direction of college. We worry about losing our injection, maybe two or three times, ethically responsible research. home.’’ And he’s not alone. There are and with that, their pancreas could re- hundreds of other workers and other sume producing insulin and they would f families with real damages that the be cured of their diabetes, no longer re- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a International Trade Commission may quiring insulin injections, no longer re- previous order of the House, the gen- not have considered. quiring painful pinpricks. tleman from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) is rec- What about the family of Tom Of course, Melton’s work is a long ognized for 5 minutes. Sternhagen, who had worked for 29 way from the clinic. Mice are not peo- (Mr. DAVIS of Illinois addressed the years at the Kimberly mill? His wife ple, and some of the details must be House. His remarks will appear here- Maureen, his son Ben and daughter modified to ensure that the injection is after in the Extensions of Remarks.) Lexi, and here’s what he has to say. safe and won’t cause tumors. But this f ‘‘Can’t pay the mortgage. Can’t pay the work represents an enormous step for- property taxes. Our son can’t go to col- ward and should be pursued with all of UNFAIR TRADE lege. We have no more health insur- the resources NIH can provide. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a ance. Can’t make car payments. This is This exciting news comes on the previous order of the House, the gen- nothing but corporate greed with no re- heels of another announcement also tleman from Wisconsin (Mr. KAGEN) is gard for human life.’’ That is Tom this summer, that researchers from recognized for 5 minutes. Sternhagen.

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For the man and woman on throughout Paper Valley and through- (Mr. BACHUS addressed the House. the street, when it comes to thinking out northeast Wisconsin. His remarks will appear hereafter in about their retirement and their future Now, what’s it going to take? What’s the Extensions of Remarks.) and putting their kids through college, it going to take to wake up America? they have to think, well, are we going We’ve been bleeding our jobs overseas f to put that in the gas tank, in the oil when instead we should be shipping our The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a tank for fuel this winter and not buy values overseas, not our jobs. As Niag- previous order of the House, the gentle- that new car or that new washing ma- ara, Wisconsin goes, so goes our Na- woman from North Carolina (Ms. FOXX) chine that might be produced in the tion. And as Kimberly goes, so goes our is recognized for 5 minutes. northern part of Ohio? Nation as well. (Ms. FOXX addressed the House. Her I was fortunate enough earlier this It’s time for us here in the House of remarks will appear hereafter in the summer to go to ANWR with 10 other Representatives to work together Extensions of Remarks.) Members. And we went up there, we across party lines and make certain f saw Prudhoe Bay and what was being that we design balanced trade deals The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a done there, and also looking at what such that when a ship comes over from previous order of the House, the gen- was right across from the line of the China with $50 million worth of goods tleman from Virginia (Mr. WOLF) is river of ANWR. And ANWR, if you and materials, they take back $50 mil- recognized for 5 minutes. don’t know, is the size of South Caro- lion worth of goods and materials made (Mr. WOLF addressed the House. His lina, about 19 million acres. We’re by our hardworking Americans. remarks will appear hereafter in the looking at an area that was set aside in Look, given a level playing field, we Extensions of Remarks.) 1980 of what they call section 1002 of about 1.5 million acres of that. And can out-compete and out-work any- f body. We are the most productive peo- when you get right down to it, all we’re The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a ple ever on Earth. We have had a suc- talking about in this whole debate, previous order of the House, the gen- cessful middle class only because of our when we’re talking about ANWR, is an tleman from Georgia (Mr. PRICE) is rec- work ethic and the fact that we’ve had area of about 2,000 acres. And that ognized for 5 minutes. fair trade deals, free trade. The CAFTA translates to about 3.5 square miles in (Mr. PRICE of Georgia addressed the and NAFTA style trade deals are noth- size. But we’ve got to do it. Because House. His remarks will appear here- ing more than a free giveaway of Amer- what’s happening right now is, when after in the Extensions of Remarks.) ican jobs. the Alaskan pipeline was at its height, It’s time for America to wake up. f it was carrying about 2.1 million bar- Yes, let’s wake up together, let’s roll ENERGY CRISES AFFECTING rels of oil a day. up our sleeves, let’s work together in AMERICANS b 2015 this House and in this next election. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a Let’s elect a President who can think Today it’s carrying 700,000. We are previous order of the House, the gen- things all the way through, someone losing about 15 percent capacity every tleman from Ohio (Mr. LATTA) is recog- who is on the side of the Van Zeeland year in that pipeline. When it gets nized for 5 minutes. family, someone who is on our side for down to 3,000 barrels a day, it will no Mr. LATTA. Mr. Speaker, I represent a change. longer be able to flow and bring that one of the largest, if not the largest, ag oil south. That’s a real concern because f districts in the State of Ohio. Also, ac- right now we’re importing 70 percent of The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a cording to the National Manufacturers the oil used in this country, 70 percent. previous order of the House, the gen- Association, I represent one of the top So what we need to do is be able to tleman from Minnesota (Mr. ELLISON) 10 manufacturing districts in the coun- take that oil that’s over in ANWR, is recognized for 5 minutes. try. And over this August break that about 10.3 billion barrels, and we can (Mr. ELLISON addressed the House. we had, I was across my district— put that 1 million barrels a day into His remarks will appear hereafter in north, south, east and west—having a that pipeline and bring it south. the Extensions of Remarks.) lot of meetings with farmers and a lot And why is that important? Well, it’s f of meetings with our manufacturers. important that we do things here in The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a And the word wasn’t all that good. this country because right now we’re previous order of the House, the gen- Farmers were telling me that on many talking about having potentially about tleman from Indiana (Mr. BURTON) is a day they’re burning between $800 and 86 billion barrels offshore, we have recognized for 5 minutes. $1,000 a day for diesel. They’re paying about 2.1 trillion barrels of oil shale, (Mr. BURTON of Indiana addressed much higher costs for fertilizer and we’re looking at around 420 trillion the House. His remarks will appear chemicals—and in some cases these are cubic feet of natural gas that’s all off- hereafter in the Extensions of Re- up 3 to 3.5 times as much as they were limits right now. We also have 24 per- marks.) 2 to 3 years ago. cent of the world’s coal reserves. We Manufacturers: Not only the cost of have that technology, and some of that f shipping being up, but also the cost of was invented in my own district, to The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a the product that they had to produce have clean coal technology. Because we previous order of the House, the gen- with. They took me into the ware- don’t have these surprises that we tleman from Oregon (Mr. DEFAZIO) is houses at the factories and they said, wake up to like we did today that the recognized for 5 minutes. you know, a year ago, if you would OPEC countries have decided to cut (Mr. DEFAZIO addressed the House. have been here, this entire warehouse back on production by about 520,000 His remarks will appear hereafter in would have been full of the product barrels of oil over the next 40 days. Im- the Extensions of Remarks.) that we needed to produce what we mediately the price of crude went up. f need to make our goods with. And Immediately we saw that, after watch- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a today, it is only a quarter full. But ing the price go up and up and up to previous order of the House, the gen- that’s the same price that we paid last about $147 a barrel, it was back under tleman from Kansas (Mr. MORAN) is year for this year, only a quarter. And $100 a barrel just briefly. And it’s time recognized for 5 minutes. it was an oil-based product. They’ve that this country take control of its

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But first I are producing, that we are making sure there with the leader of Kaktovik, Mr. want to say that sometimes people get that we have oil and natural gas be- Felton Rexford, the leader of the local the feeling that we Republicans refer cause we are going to need that oil, Eskimo tribe, I said, ‘‘Where are all the to alternative energy as something we’re going to need that natural gas trees? Where’s the wilderness? that’s kind of window dressing because for the next 20 to 25 years. He said, ‘‘Congressman, there is no all we want to do is drill. We also have to look at the alter- wilderness here. There are no trees. I have been working with alternative natives because when we went to The closest tree is over 100 miles energy issues for over a decade here in ANWR, we stopped in Colorado and saw away.’’ Congress. In my district we now have what they were doing out there in the When you look at the size of ANWR, the largest integrated soy diesel plant National Renewable Laboratory deal- 19 million acres, the size of South Caro- in the world that Dreyfus has put near ing with solar, wind, hydrogen, eth- lina, you have to realize that the drill- Claypool just outside of Warsaw, Indi- anol, and biodiesel, and that’s inter- ing that we’re proposing is in a limited ana. I recently gave an award that I have, a Johnny Appleseed award, who’s esting to me because it’s all happening 2,000-acre section of 1002. That means literally 99.99 percent of ANWR is off- actually a real person buried in Ft. in my district, the Fifth Congressional limits and the tiny area that we would Wayne, to a local company, Sweet- District of Ohio. water Music, which is the greatest on- Mr. Speaker, it’s time for us to act. drill is a flat, frozen, barren tundra. To put that in perspective, it would be the line music company in the United f size of a stamp on a football field. States and in the world because it SKYROCKETING GAS PRICES The next issue: This would hurt the looks like they are going to be cer- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. wildlife, particularly caribou and polar tified as the first gold business building bear. Well, there are 800,000 caribou in MURPHY of Connecticut). Under a pre- in the State of Indiana, at full green vious order of the House, the gen- Alaska, 5,000 polar bear. I saw them standards, first gold higher than plat- both on my trip. I can tell you the inum. And they’re doing it and they tleman from Florida (Mr. KELLER) is recognized for 5 minutes. numbers for both are up over the last did it in a way and the reason I wanted Mr. KELLER of Florida. Mr. Speak- 30 years, each and every year, accord- to highlight them is they can pay for er, I rise today to discuss the problem ing to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Serv- the cost of their building with what of skyrocketing gas prices. When a sin- ice. In fact, next door to ANWR is they’ve saved in energy. I mean it pays gle mom in Orlando, Florida, is paying Prudhoe Bay, which is an existing oil for itself. A green building does not $80 to fill up her minivan, that’s a cri- field that’s owned by the State, and we have to be a drawback. At the same time, Merry Lea Envi- sis. The American people deserve some had caribou there in the mid 1970s to the tune of 3,000. They have increased ronmental Learning Center done by straight talk, and here it is: The main since then tenfold up to 30,000. Goshen College also has a platinum component of a price of gasoline at the So if those reasons aren’t valid, what standard building. I believe that the pump is crude oil. Crude oil is a com- are the real reasons we are not drilling wind power is a real alternative. modity governed by the law of supply in ANWR? Well, here is a quote from Parker-Hannifin in New Haven, Indi- and demand. Therefore, we must in- the head of the Sierra Club, Mr. Carl ana, I have an earmark set aside to crease our supply and reduce our de- Pope, and he says, ‘‘We are better off help them with their project. They do mand. To increase our supply, where is without cheap gas.’’ Better off without coolant systems, and they believe they the single largest source of untapped cheap gas. Tell the single mom paying can get 20 to 40 percent more energy crude oil in the United States? It’s in $80 to fill up her minivan that she’s out of each wind turbine by changing Alaska in an area called ANWR, spe- better off without cheap gas. Tell the the coolant standards. I have worked cifically in a section called 1002. airline employees who all just lost with solar energy in my district. Water I recently went to Alaska and toured their jobs that they’re better off with- Furnace, a company just highlighted in the entire northern slope, including the out cheap gas. Tell the small business the New York Times in the last week, 1002 section of ANWR. I will tell you employees who were just laid off that by recycling water for heating and why I did. The critics of Alaska oil their families are better off without cooling, can save an untold number of drilling say three things about ANWR: cheap gas. Tell the public school super- power plants in the United States if we They say, first, don’t drill there be- intendent that had to switch to a 4-day do that. Nevertheless, representing the cause there’s only a trivial amount of week because he can’t afford the number one manufacturing district in oil. Then they tell us that it would money for the buses that our children the United States. ruin the pristine wilderness. And, fi- are better off without cheap gas. Let me just say this: We need coal, nally, they say don’t do it because it Mr. Speaker, the American people nuclear, and drilling as well as all will hurt the wildlife there, particu- are hurting. We want you to put the or- these alternative energies. I have the larly the caribou and the polar bear. dinary Americans above the radical largest pickup plant in the world that Let me address all three issues head-on fringe environmental groups. We want does the Silverado and the Sierra. You as someone who has personally been you to give us an up-or-down vote on aren’t going to power this if we don’t there. the American Energy Act. We want have enough oil and gas. I have two First, is there a trivial amount of oil you to do it this September before tak- huge SDI steel plants that take more there? There’s 10.4 billion barrels of oil ing another vacation and take care of energy to make the steel than cities of there, according to the United States business. probably 75,000 to 100,000, possibly even Department of Interior. And 10.4 billion f double that, to 200,000, and everything barrels of oil is enough to provide all of The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a in those cities to power those steel my home State of Florida’s energy previous order of the House, the gen- plants. Five new core facilities. needs for 29 years; 10.4 billion barrels of tleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. TIM Valbruna Steel. We aren’t going to do oil is enough to pump 1 million barrels MURPHY) is recognized for 5 minutes. this with a windmill standing up. of oil a day every single day for the (Mr. TIM MURPHY of Pennsylvania Those are supplemental power systems. next 30 years. Does that sound like a addressed the House. His remarks will But if we’re not going to have every trivial amount of oil to you? appear hereafter in the Extensions of company moving to China, we have to The next thing we heard is that it’s a Remarks.) have more energy in this country. The pristine wilderness. You can’t possibly f motor homes are not going to be pow- drill there. Well, I went there. I went ered by a little solar panel. And they’re to the town of Kaktovik, the only vil- ENERGY getting hammered right now, and 58 lage of ANWR, and I looked out and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a percent are in my district. The inter- was a little surprised by what I saw, previous order of the House, the gen- national trucks are not going to be

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Well, I have to tell hydrocarbons that are packed in much other Members of the freshman class, you guys that as a Congresswoman like other oil that are in a solid piece the class of 2006, and I have heard some from Ohio in the 13th District, that the like this. This basically is the equiva- folks on the other side of the aisle in people I represent, they are not whin- lent of a gold nugget in the gold area recent moments talk about the fact ers. They have, unfortunately, too because you can see here it is a piece of that the American people deserve some many of them, felt the painful con- basically oil that by heating tech- straight talk. We could not agree more. sequences of the failures of the last 8 nology, this turns into high grade oil. And that is why we are here today, to years of this administration. We have 800 billion barrels of this. We talk about some of the things that So I am grateful that you’re here to- pump right now in the United States 20 aren’t being talked about quite as loud- night to help us describe, and frankly, million. We have 800 billion in just the ly on the other side of the aisle. the important thing is hold account- west Colorado, southwest Wyoming, Recently, earlier this week, the ad- able this administration for the fail- and Utah basin. This is not the Rocky ministration released its final mid-ses- ures that it is trying to disown. Mountains. It’s not by the Grand Te- sion review of the budget. The new The current administration, you all tons. It’s not by the Rocky Mountain budget document showed a record def- will know, is going to leave this Nation National Park. It’s in the big basin in icit for 2009, confirming that in 8 years with the largest deficit in history. I’m between the mountains because that’s this administration will have turned sure my colleagues here with me to- where you have the foliage and things the largest surpluses in history into night are going to talk about that. And that are packed together to do this. the largest deficits in history. the debt has ballooned as well. The eco- Now, you can do it in open-pit min- The dismal fiscal record is, unfortu- nomic growth has been, to give a com- ing like tar sands, and that’s what you nately, just one aspect of this adminis- plimentary spin, has been anemic, and see a lot in the news. But the Mahog- tration’s failed economic record. But is thousands, thousands of jobs have been any Research Project that Shell Oil that what the administration says to lost, household incomes have fallen, has, and you can find it on the Internet the American people? and the President’s fiscal policies have because they have now gone public for Now I just want us to take a moment imposed an amazingly heavy debt bur- a reason I will mention in a minute, and look at some of the comments that den on America’s families. and Chevron have ways to do this in have been coming out, not only from You know, I’d like to yield at this the ground so you don’t have open-pit the administration, but from the other time to the distinguished gentleman mining. They’ve already extracted side of the aisle in this body. here tonight, Representative PETER enough in their pilot projects that we In November of 2007, President WELCH from Vermont, who has been a were able to use it in our planes. We George W. Bush, the administration, tremendous agent of change in this don’t need oil at $120. Obviously at $40 said, ‘‘Sure, there’s some challenges body, and I look forward to seeing what it isn’t profitable. But in between there facing us, but the underpinnings of our this gentleman is going to be able to we have a lot of room to work to get economy are strong, and we are a resil- do, because it’s going to be a lot when this out of the ground. ient economy.’’ And then, in December we have more to work with in the next The reason they have gone public, be- of 2007, he said, ‘‘This economy is pret- administration. cause they were nearing the point of a ty good. There’s definitely some storm Mr. WELCH of Vermont. I thank my larger scale project, the House of Rep- clouds and concerns, but the underpin- friend, Representative SUTTON. This resentatives and the Senate banned ning is good.’’ And that was com- evening gives us an opportunity to shale oil drilling. The project has plemented by the leader of the Repub- take account, to look at the record, stopped cold. They have laid off the en- licans here in the House, who said in and reveal it to the American people. gineers. Chevron and Shell have had to July of this year, July 21 of 2008, We are in a season close to an election, stop. One project has gone ahead on the ‘‘While the economy is slow, we are where the American people are going open-pit mining. But the new stories in still seeing growth, and frankly, I have to have to make a decision, and it’s Colorado—this is a huge debate right got to tell you, I am shocked.’’ And going to be an extraordinarily con- now. Just about a month ago I went then he said way back in October of sequential decision. In the fog of a out. They have now opened it so Mem- 2006, Minority Leader BOEHNER, said as campaign, there’s an awful lot of rhet- bers of Congress can see it because follows, ‘‘Today’s announcement by oric back and forth, where those who they were trying to keep this tech- President Bush confirms that the pro- have not done much try to conceal it nology from each other and the dif- growth economic policies put in place with claims that they did, and try to ferent companies, but basically Shell by Republicans are working as planned shoot down the progress that has been and Chevron have gone public with this to spur economic growth and reduce made. technology because they were about to the deficit.’’ That was JOHN BOEHNER, Now we all know that when we get make it public. But we banned it, 800 October 11, 2006, Looking forward, try- going, and we are going to solve our billion barrels in the United States ing to suggest that the policies that problems, it’s going to have to be that does not have open-pit mining, have been pursued by this administra- working together. We have been doing that in the one experimental that they tion have benefited the American peo- our best to do that. But what we have did already, they have already done the ple. to do tonight is lay out what the record recovery of. It’s intense when they do Well, I am really glad that we have has been. it, but down in the ground, they basi- this opportunity to have the American What I want to talk about briefly are cally freeze the area around it, as you people join us this evening to talk two areas; one is deficit, to continue can see in the Mahogany Project, and about the real facts. And they are not what my friend, Representative SUT- get it out. pleasant because it’s a sad fact about TON was talking about, and the other is If we’re going to keep industry in some of the things that are happening on Iraq. The reason I want to talk America, we have to come up with out there. about them specifically is because it is American energy strategies. Do every- You know, these two, the administra- important for the American people to thing, including shale oil. tion, the President, and Minority Lead- know what they can expect from our f er BOEHNER, they are not the only peo- friends on the other side who have a b 2030 ple out there telling the American peo- clear record, and it is one that they are ple that the economy is good. Not so accountable for, but it has to be one THE DEFICIT long ago, in the not the distant past, that Americans are aware of. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under we heard a top economic advisor to On deficits, taking up on what you the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- Senator MCCAIN tell us that our prob- said, let me just read some quotes from

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I don’t have to re- ceed with tax relief without fear of take generations to do. mind any of my colleagues what the budget deficits even if the economy I will yield back my time to the first two letters are of borrow and softens. Projections for the surplus in gentlelady from Ohio. spend. my budget are cautious and conserv- Ms. SUTTON. That is an amazing We have got to this point in time. It ative.’’ George Bush, March 27, 2001. record; not a good one, but it’s an may be dark. The lights aren’t out yet. ‘‘We are holding down government amazing record. It’s important that we We have some ideas, we have got the spending and reforming government, do share this with the American people energy, and we are on your side. We are and the good news is the deficit is com- because we need to know where we here to help lead us to a brighter fu- ing down.’’ OMB Director Jim Nussle, stand. What we also know that this ture. June 22, 2006. ‘‘I don’t like deficits, I isn’t the end of the story. We know it I yield back my time. don’t want deficits, and I won’t pretend doesn’t have to be this way. We can Ms. SUTTON. I thank the gentleman deficits don’t matter.’’ OMB Director make a change. We must make a for his very poignant remarks. There’s Jim Nussle, March 12, 2003. change. a question that has to be answered ‘‘Today’s announcement by President I know that our next speaker, and we also, and that question is: How many Bush confirms that the pro-growth eco- have been joined by Dr. STEVEN KAGEN, more families? How many more fami- nomic policies put in place by Repub- the Congressman from Wisconsin. I’d lies have to fall out of the middle class, licans are working as planned to spur like to throw it over to you. I know lose their jobs, their hopes, their economic growth and reduce the def- you have got some valuable insight to dreams before we change direction. But icit. Republicans are meeting our com- add. the good news is the opportunity for mitments to the American taxpayers Mr. KAGEN. Thank you very much change is on the horizon. by exercising fiscal restraint in pro- for yielding. I must say that Mr. WELCH At this point, I’d like to shift it over moting economic policies this create has explained it quite clearly. If I could to my good friend from Florida, a very jobs, all efforts which have produced a put it in just different words that I un- distinguished Member of this body, a strong economy that is working to derstand. Back home in Wisconsin, we new Member who came in charging, has drive down and eventually eliminate speak a little different that you all do already started to deliver change, and I our deficit.’’ JOHN BOEHNER, October 11, in Vermont. know is raring to deliver more in the 2006. We would say it this way. President next administration, Congressman RON What are the facts? That is the rhet- Bush has done all by himself, all by KLEIN. oric. What are the facts? President himself, what the Germans and Japa- Mr. KLEIN of Florida. I’d like to Bush and congressional Republicans, nese could not do in World War II. He thank the gentlewoman from Ohio and his allies, have turned a projected 10- has destroyed this country and every- all my colleague here tonight. I’m year, 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion thing, everything that he said he was, going to carry this conversation a lit- into a projected 10-year deficit of $3.4 he is not. He is the opposite. He is not tle further about fiscal discipline be- trillion. That is a swing of $9 trillion in conservative, he wasn’t compassionate. cause all of us elected last year, Demo- one Presidency. When President Bush You cannot call it compassionate when crats and, interestingly enough, Repub- took office, there was a projected sur- the President and the Washington, DC, licans, have supported fiscal discipline, plus of $710 billion for fiscal year 2009. Republicans produce collateral damage but got way off track over the last 10 President Bush’s budget will create a like the family picture I show you years. It’s now the Democrats, many of $407 billion deficit for fiscal year 2009. here. us, who are sort of leading the fight. That is a swing of over $1 trillion. Now this could be Kimberly, Wis- We are the fiscal hawks. We are the Under the Bush administration, Re- consin, it could be West Palm Beach, ones saying this is totally unaccept- publicans created the five largest—one, Florida, it could be Denver, Colorado, able for all the reasons you heard to- two, three, four, five—five largest it could be anywhere in Ohio, where a night. budget deficits in American history, family has been dispossessed of their I think the gentleman from Vermont $378 billion, $413 billion, $318 billion, job and their hopes and their dreams. already mentioned this, but it’s worth $407 billion, and $438 billion now pro- This is a hardworking family. This is restating. The Bush administration is jected. the Wendel family. Don and his wife responsible for the five biggest deficits, The first 42 Presidents, the first 42 Ann. He worked at a paper mill for 30 and that total is a staggering amount. American President’s, borrowed a total years. And because of our trade deals But I want to just take that one step of $1 trillion. That was during wars, by that remain unenforced, unbalanced, further because this is the kind of the way; World War I, World War II, and unfair, the Chinese paper that change that we are going to deliver. the Korean conflict, Vietnam, com- came into our domestic marketplace Given the opportunities over the next bined. That is the total amount bor- cut off the business opportunity for the couple of years, hopefully in a bipar- rowed from foreign governments and fi- Kimberly mill. I am talking about tisan way, that is the way we get nancial institutions. Kimberly-Clark, where it came from, things done here, but looking at this In the 71⁄2 years of the Bush Presi- in Kimberly, Wisconsin. figure here, this is a chart that says: dency, President Bush has borrowed He lost his job. He lost his hope and Taxpayer spending on Iraq war versus more than $1.6 trillion. He borrowed his future. And he has to ask this es- Federal spending on other priorities. more in 71⁄2 years than 42 Presidents sential question, as do every single This is for last year, fiscal year. It has did in over 100 years of our history. voter this fall, every American right the cost of the Iraq war, $150 billion. When President Bush took office, we now has to ask themselves this ques- had a national debt that was $5.7 tril- tion: Whose side are we on? b 2045 lion. During his administration, that We are on the side of the Wendel fam- The cost of NIH funding, that is all has nearly doubled, and will reach $10.3 ily, whose been dispossessed. This is a the research that government does, all trillion by the end of fiscal year 2009. picture of the middle class. And this is the research on cancer and heart dis- This administration has presided what I would call collateral damage. ease and Alzheimer’s, all the things over a fiscal train wreck, and it is cre- We are in an economic battle, an eco- that afflict our families and our com- ating obviously a deep hole that we nomic war. We have to get our act to- munities, it is a substantial amount of have to climb out of, the American gether, not just here in the House, but money. But that figure, plus all the people have to climb out of, and it’s a in the Senate and in the White House. college tuition assistance, everything record of rhetoric of rosy fiscal sce- We have to work together and have we do to try to make sure that kids get

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That single one of our communities, sewers, ated, getting an educational system, change will come in this election on roads, bridges, all those kinds of getting health care put back together, November 4th. We started this change things, if you take the cost of roads Social Security, Medicare, all the pri- in 2006 with the election of a Demo- and bridges, the cost of research, the orities that make America strong on cratic Congress. We have been able to cost of all the college tuition and the the inside first. provide minimum wage increases to cost of all the health care, that total So I think that is a very important people. We have changed, for instance, sum is less than what we spent on the point, and we finally got a little bit of the cost of student loans, so that more Iraq war. discussion on this. But the reality is people can take advantage of our high- Now, we debated at length whether this is the kind of leadership we are of- er education system. Democrats took the Iraq war is a good war or not or has fering and we are providing. on the pharmaceuticals, so that more accomplished a lot. I personally be- Mr. PERLMUTTER. If the gentleman people can have lower priced pharma- lieve, and I serve on the Foreign Af- would yield, I thank my friend from ceuticals. We have increased veterans fairs Committee, that, unfortunately, Florida for yielding, because as to the benefits more in the last year than at the real threat against our national se- very point you just raised, until March any other time in the 70-plus year his- curity is in Afghanistan. And it still 27, 2003, former Deputy Defense Sec- tory of the Veterans Administration. boggles my mind and most Americans retary Paul Wolfowitz said this. You This has happened under Democrats. that Osama bin Laden, who committed were talking about Iraq paying for its It is not the same old, failed policies the worst crime against Americans in own reconstruction and the costs at- that the Bush administration has had our history in the United States, is tendant to this war, which is running for the last 8 years or that the McCain still free somewhere in the world perpe- us anywhere between $2.5 and $3 billion campaign wants to perpetuate. We need trating additional threats against the a week, which we could use in any myr- a change, and that change will come United States through al Qaeda. iad of ways. with the election of a new President, The problem, of course, is that he He said back on that date, ‘‘There is and that President is going to be Sen- and others most likely are in Afghani- a lot of money to pay for this that ator BARACK OBAMA, and it is going to stan and Pakistan, the mountain areas doesn’t have to be U.S. taxpayer continue by the Democrats maintain- there. Unfortunately, we took our eye money, and it starts with the assets of ing a majority in this House. We can- off the ball. But let’s put that issue the Iraqi people. We are dealing with a not have more of the same. aside. Hopefully we will be able to deal country that can really finance its own There is real opportunity out there with that in the near future with the reconstruction, and relatively soon.’’ for this country. And we heard a little next President. And Don Rumsfeld said that ‘‘rel- bit today from the Republicans about Let’s just talk about, we have spent atively soon’’ could be 6 days, 6 weeks, drill here, drill now. They want to go $650 billion. I want everybody to re- he doubted 6 months. with the same old, tired energy policy, member this number, that is $339 mil- Well, we have been there now more which just is only oil and gas and just lion we are spending each day on the than 5 years, longer than it took for us drilling here and drilling now. I don’t war in Iraq, $339 million per day. Let’s to win World War II. And what we know exactly what they mean by drill think about what we could do with have, and I would like to point out the here and drill now. that money. I mean, we could have a chart that is next to me, is we have a We had a very interesting story debate at length here, and I am sure problem that has been created by the about an ethics scandal within the In- everybody listening tonight on the Bush administration, and Senator terior Department, where some mem- floor and throughout our country MCCAIN would like to perpetuate. bers of the Bush administration’s Inte- would have lots of good ideas that are So we have the Bush-McCain policies, rior Department, who are supposed to legitimate priorities for our country. the Bush-McCain policies being let’s be the watchdogs over the oil and gas Yet we are spending that amount of stay in Iraq. They don’t have to pay for companies who are supposed to pay money. anything. Senator MCCAIN said it royalties to this country for all of the Now, is there an answer that the might have to be 100 years. And at the minerals that they extract from the Democrats have put forward? You bet same time, cutting our revenues to this country. It said, ‘‘Investigators from there is. What was this war sold to us government, so we run up the highest the Interior Department’s Inspector on in terms of how it was going to be deficits on record. Under Ronald General’s Office,’’ this is in the Wash- paid for? Oil revenues. Iraq sits on the Reagan, under the first George Bush, ington Post today, it said, ‘‘More than third largest oil revenues and reserves we had big deficits, a surplus under Bill a dozen employees, including the of oil in the world; $80 billion, it is re- Clinton and the fiscal policies of the former director of the Oil Royalty Pro- ported, in banks, some of which is in Democrats, and then a gigantic deficit gram, accepted gifts, including ski New York. Eighty billion dollars. That under George Bush II. trips, sports tickets and golf outings.’’ money was supposed to pay for the cost What we need, ladies and gentlemen, The report alleges that the former di- of reconstruction of Iraq, the cost of what I say to my friends, both the rector netted more than $30,000. our military fuel and the cost also of Democrats and to the Republicans, is There was also the fact, they said, the retraining of the military in Iraq, we have to have a change. We cannot ‘‘the government officials accepted lav- our military training their military. have these same old, tired policies. If ish gifts, steered contracts to favored All legitimate things. Yet what has we have the same old, tired policies firms, and engaged in illicit sex with happened? President Bush has refused, with respect to our foreign affairs, such employees of the oil companies, Fed- the Republicans have refused to do as we are not going to charge the Iraqis eral investigators reported today.’’ that. for their reconstruction or we are So that is the same old thing. We are Now, I introduced a bill, H.R. 1111. never going to let them take their own so hooked on just one commodity, H.R. 1111. I said it is number one, put destiny into their hands, we are going which is oil, which obviously is going Americans first. I think most Ameri- to have these same old costs and same to be part of our energy package no cans would agree with that. Let’s take old losses of life to Americans who matter what. We are going to drill. We the money that Iraq has, it is $80 bil- have been in Iraq now for more than 5 are drilling. We are trying to extract lion, and let them pay for the cost of years. this. But we have to have a comprehen- their reconstruction, the cost of our If we have the same old economic sive energy plan, which is what the men and women training their mili- policies, which is what Senator MCCAIN Democrats are proposing and we will tary, and our fuel costs. That is com- would like to have, it is just more propose within the next couple of

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Government Oversight Committee that understands that the economic policies That is the kind of forward looking, in- Mr. WELCH and I serve on that $9 bil- that we’ve been operating under need novative approach that we have to lion was wasted, unaccounted for at to change. The gentleman from Colo- take. That is what BARACK OBAMA is the beginning of the war, sometimes rado put it very well when he said we going to do. We are not going to have thrown out of pickup trucks in duffel need to get away from the same old, the same old, tired policies exemplified bags and never, ever seen again. Or tired policies, the same old, tired path. by the Bush administration that JOHN whether it is our response to Katrina We have trade policies that are ship- MCCAIN wants to keep going. and Rita, in which we left thousands, ping jobs overseas. Mr. MURPHY of Connecticut. If the tens of thousands of residents helpless We heard the gentleman from Wis- gentleman would yield? and hopeless. And now today we find consin talking about the beautiful fam- Mr. PERLMUTTER. The gentleman that we have unbelievably inappro- ily that is now in dire straits because would certainly yield to my friend priate relationships between the gov- of the paper company that has closed, from Connecticut. ernment and the oil and gas companies the paper mill. Well, do you know Mr. MURPHY of Connecticut. Thank seeking to lease our lands. what? The paper mills are starting to you very much, my friend from Colo- This is an economy that is in trouble close, and they’re closing in the wake rado. I am glad you brought up this because of the policies of this adminis- of the steel mills that have closed, and issue that has come up today. Really tration. This is a government which the steel mills have closed because you couldn’t write this. You couldn’t has simply fallen apart at the seams there were unfair tactics being used by make a movie that was more salacious because of mismanagement. And it all the Chinese, for the most part, in than the details that are being un- speaks to the change we so desperately dumping steel into this country, and veiled today in an article you ref- need. No more of the same. we couldn’t compete because you can’t erenced from the Washington Post re- JOHN MCCAIN’s campaign, as we always compete with people who are garding not only, it appears, monetary know, is run by the same crowd of lob- willing to cheat. It wasn’t through any favors, gifts, meals, trips, but sex and byists who have run the Bush adminis- fault of our own or through that of the drugs. This is a Hollywood blockbuster tration for the last 8 years. We need a workers who worked so hard and pro- that is being unveiled here, and it is all real change. This Congress with Demo- ductively in this country, but it on our dime. crats in charge has started it, but it worked so well for those who benefited What you are saying here is certainly comes to a completion this November. from it in foreign countries with steel relevant to the question of how we are All of it stops, the mismanagement of that now they do it with paper. It prob- running our energy policy in this coun- this war, the disastrous response to ably won’t end with paper, so we need try, that we have an administration natural disasters and these new revela- somebody who understands the need to that is so cozy to the energy industry tions about the corruption still en- reform, to make the government work, that it is not just leases that are being demic in our government. to make sure that when we have trade negotiated, but apparently it is drugs Ms. SUTTON, it can all change this policies that they don’t work against and sexual favors being negotiated. November. us. They can work with us and with our But what we are dealing with really Ms. SUTTON. I thank the gentleman workers and with our country and with here, Mr. PERLMUTTER, is a government for his remarks and for his forward our industries and with our businesses run amuck. This is, I think, sympto- looking hopefulness. And I think that here. matic of a much larger problem. We you are exactly right. Both of the gen- The good news is there is hope, but it are talking here about the economic tlemen have done a great job in laying is important that people know where disaster that this administration has out sort of where we are, where we we begin because change is so nec- wrought, and you can calculate that in have been and where we can go. essary. The same old, tired policies, so many different ways: wages flat To that end, we do want the Amer- they won’t take us where we want to while GDP goes up; deficits running ican people to take heart. We look at go. They’ll take us further down the into the trillions of dollars. this chart, and this is an important path where we find ourselves today. But what we also have seen is an ad- chart to me because it talks about ob- Mr. WELCH, do you have anything to ministration that just can’t run gov- viously the job growth that occurred add at this point? ernment any longer. They are wasting under President Bill Clinton, and it Mr. WELCH of Vermont. Well, I do our taxpayer dollars. Now, they also also talks about the disastrous job have something to add. I just want to happen to be wasting all of the money losses that, unfortunately, we have suf- go back to the question of Foreign Af- that they are borrowing from foreign fered through this administration. fairs and the war in Iraq, and I want to banks, but we are wasting a lot of our As the gentleman from Connecticut do what I did the last time when I was money too. pointed out, we need a government talking about the debt, which is to lay It is incredibly relevant that we are that works. We need a government that out some of the explicit statements here trying to expose the economic dis- works in economic policy and foreign and promises that the administration aster that the Bush administration has policy and energy policy. We need a made about this war and then lay out left us with that we are going to government that understands and is re- what the specific results have been. It’s change with the new administration. It sponsive to the cries of the people. important. It’s vitally important that is relevant that we are also talking the people of this country compare about this new revelation. b 2100 promises to results. This war, in my You have mentioned some of the de- We have people who are suffering. We view, has been a catastrophe, but here tails, but what we found in the Interior have working families who no longer is what top officials in the Bush admin- Department is what investigators call can put food on the table. We’re filling istration said: a ‘‘culture of substance abuse and up the food pantry lines. We’re having ‘‘It is unknowable how long that con- promiscuity.’’ Nineteen oil marketers to put more money into our food banks flict [the war in Iraq] will last. It could and other employers in the office are because we need to feed more hungry last 6 days, 6 weeks, I doubt 6 months,’’ accused of having personal and some- people. The good news is we’re feeding Donald Rumsfeld, February 2003, a times sexual relationships with rep- more hungry people. The bad news is month before the war. resentatives of a group of favorite oil there are more hungry people and peo- ‘‘There’s a lot of money to pay for and gas companies from 2002 to 2006. ple in poverty in this country. The this that doesn’t have to be U.S. tax- Mr. Speaker, this is from the Wash- good news, though, about this chart is payer money, and it starts with the as- ington Post story today. that it can change. It can change. We sets of the Iraqi people. We’re dealing

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Treasury have is that they have a duty to use We’ve been making incremental, small, money is going over to Iraq to finance due deliberation in the protection of little changes. It is so frustrating hav- things. the lives of the American people and of ing come from the world of business to ‘‘My belief is we will, in fact, be the American soldiers. They have to the world of government where changes greeted as liberators,’’ Vice President use due deliberation, careful thought, are so slow, but it’s so necessary. One DICK CHENEY. How bright he was, yes. responsible analysis in committing would think that the President took March 16, 2003. American power abroad and in commit- office to prove what government could ‘‘It’s hard to conceive that it would ting the lives of our soldiers abroad. not do, and it’s really incumbent upon take more forces to provide stability in They cavalierly made predictions. Vice us to prove that good government post-Saddam Iraq than it would to take President CHENEY will go down in his- could really make a positive difference to conduct the war, itself, and to se- tory as just having been totally out of in everybody’s lives. cure the surrender of Saddam’s secu- touch. The two lessons I’ve learned since rity forces and his army. Hard to imag- Mr. PERLMUTTER. Would the gen- getting into this world of politics is ine,’’ Deputy Defense Secretary Paul tleman from Vermont just yield for 30 that people will believe a lie if it’s pre- Wolfowitz. seconds? sented with great skill on television. ‘‘I don’t know where bin Laden is. I Mr. WELCH of Vermont. I will yield, People will believe a lie if it’s pre- have no idea and really don’t care. It’s yes. sented over and over with great skill. not that important. It’s not our pri- Mr. PERLMUTTER. In your litany of The other lie is that—well, it’s not ority,’’ President George Bush, Com- things where they made promises, really a lie. It’s a lesson. Politicians mander in Chief, March 2002. made promises, made promises, none of will determine who lives and who dies. ‘‘If we’re an arrogant Nation, they’ll them turned out to be accurate or true. It’s politicians here in this Chamber. resent us. If we’re a humble Nation but One of them that just still boggles It’s politicians in the White House who strong, they’ll welcome us [in Iraq],’’ my mind is, just a few weeks after the will determine who has access to George Bush. invasion into Iraq, George Bush was on health care and who does not, who will We know the facts. The war in Iraq that aircraft carrier, saying, ‘‘Mission determine who gets a great education has now lasted longer than the U.S. in- accomplished.’’ JOHN MCCAIN was say- and who does not, who will determine volvement in World War II. Four thou- ing, ‘‘Mission accomplished.’’ All of whether or not we truly become an en- sand one hundred fifty-five Americans these guys were saying, ‘‘Mission ac- ergy independent Nation or if we do have been killed in Iraq, and more than complished.’’ We are now 5-years plus not or who will determine if we ever go 30,000 troops have been wounded as of since that time. to war again based on lies and decep- September 7 of this year. No weapons Now, our men and our women have tions. That is why I emphasize the fact that of mass destruction were ever found. been doing an unbelievable job. Ini- we need in the White House today peo- That was the whole pretext that tially, their equipment was not proper. ple with good judgment, people who George Bush used to justify this war. Their vehicles weren’t built in a way can think things all the way through, More than $600 billion has been spent, that was safe. We’ve changed that. someone who will sign a bill to guar- none of it on the books incidentally, all We’ve helped them because they’ve antee access to 11 million children who on the credit card. Some projections done a job that has been above and be- are in need, someone who will sign that estimate that the war, when all of the yond the call of duty, but it’s the Com- bill, not veto that bill. I’m referring to expenses are paid, including what we mander in Chief and the judgment of the change, to the positive change, have to pay to provide health care to the Commander in Chief who is in place that we really need. our seriously injured soldiers, will ex- today that we have to question, his When you talk, Mr. WELCH, about the ceed $3 trillion. judgment and the judgment of whom war in Iraq, does anyone question that The Iraqi Government has now forced we want to be Commander in Chief. that war was a war of choice, not of ne- the Bush administration to accept Who has the right judgment? Who cessity? Does anyone believe that it something that many of us have been can really take our reputation from had not something to do with oil? Has arguing for four years, a timetable. It what’s now down in the gutter inter- the price of oil gone down since we’ve took the President of Iraq to force the nationally and raise it back up? Who occupied and have invaded Iraq? Not at President of the United States to get has the judgment to get this country all. Quite the contrary. real and to understand that what we working again? Who has the judgment So what we have to do in this Cham- can expect of the American taxpayer and the energy and the ability to renew ber is to begin to find a way forward to and what we can expect of the Amer- the strength of this country, to call on become fiscally responsible and to stay ican soldier has its limits and that it’s all of us to make the sacrifices and to true to our beliefs that we are also pro- time to start asking the Iraqis to step meet the challenges that we’ve got gressive-minded and that we really do up and to take on the burden of their ahead of us that we know will lead us care about the middle class. We need to own future. back to the great Nation that we are resuscitate that middle class as soon as America’s military is stretched thin. and to the great people that we are? possible. In the next several days, that There is just no dispute about this. It It’s not the same old administration. is why we are going to take up an en- weakens our ability to respond to other It’s not the same old people. It’s not ergy independence bill, a comprehen- threats. The chairman of the Joint the Karl Roves of the world. We’re sive national strategy to become en- Chiefs of Staff, Michael Mullen, has going to have to finish this change be- ergy independent once again. That’s stressed that the need for more troops cause we can do much better than what this Chamber has the responsi- in Afghanistan is great, but due to the we’ve done. bility of doing in a bipartisan way, and war in Iraq, they’re not available. The So, with that, I’ll yield to my friend I look forward to doing that in the next Bush administration has grossly ne- from Wisconsin. several days. glected Afghanistan and has failed to Mr. KAGEN. Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. WELCH, for bringing acknowledge that that is a major PERLMUTTER. I couldn’t agree with you up the subject of war. threat. more. It really begs the question about Again, as Mr. PERLMUTTER pointed These are promises, the cavalier dis- not just whose side we’re on, but what out, it is our soldiers, the men and regard for the hidden consequences, the are the lessons that we’ve been learn- women who have volunteered to serve consequences beyond your control ing. in our Armed Services, who are paying when you embark on a war, on a I have not been in politics. I was in the price for our continued and seem- thoughtless war, and disregard the student council in 1966, and now I’m in ingly endless occupation in Iraq. Those

VerDate Aug 31 2005 03:47 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00041 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.106 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H8000 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 are the soldiers who have covered our months, 605,000 jobs were lost under ing a marriage between our Constitu- backs in battle, and we owe it to them this administration. You’ll hear in the tion and health care. to cover their backs when they return. Presidential election on the Repub- Now, if you read the Constitution, as I yield to Mr. KLEIN from Florida. lican side the same thing again and I have, it doesn’t say anywhere in here Mr. KLEIN of Florida. Thank you to again and again, the same economic that we have a constitutional right to the gentleman from Wisconsin. plan. It’s an old plan. It’s not getting health care. But we do have a right Just to pick up on your point on our us anywhere. that protects us against discrimina- men and women serving and our vet- I just want to point this out because tion. We have to apply that right that erans, I’m from Florida. Every one of we can do better. It’s one of those areas guarantees us protection from dis- us in our districts has a huge number again. This Congress has already done crimination to health care, to the of veterans—some from World War II, a number of things, I think, that are health care industry, so that all insur- some from the Korean war, some from very positive. We’ve passed the biggest ance companies will lose their oppor- Vietnam. Many of our Vietnam vet- increase in the Pell Grants in years. tunity to discriminate against you on erans today are hurting. Whether it’s For those who aren’t familiar with Pell the basis of a pre-existing condition. If Agent Orange or just age, itself, it has Grants, it’s those scholarships for we don’t stand up for our rights, we’re really begun to impact them. Now great students to get into college. The going to lose them, every single one of we’re creating a new generation of an kids in our communities want to get them, every single one of them. upwards of 2 million new veterans. We those great college educations. There So I look forward in this session and don’t want to create that next genera- are Pell Grants and other types of fi- the next, working with a President who tion of homeless. We know there are nancial incentives for kids to get into understands that discrimination is tak- huge post-traumatic stress issues asso- schools. ing place today in the health care in- ciated with it, but I’m particularly We recognize foreclosures are a big dustry. We must end discrimination proud in working with our local vet- problem in many of our communities. and put it where it belongs, into our erans’ organizations and national vet- My district in Fort Lauderdale has a past. erans’ organizations which gave our huge number of foreclosures. It’s not Mr. PERLMUTTER. leaders the recommendations of what just the individual person who is fore- Mr. PERLMUTTER. I thank my they need in order to eliminate the closed on; it’s the neighbors who are friend from Wisconsin. I’m going to backlog, to make sure that the care impacted, and it’s the depression on take a step back from the health care, was in place for evaluations of post- the value of homes, and it’s the com- talk about the GSEs, the Government traumatic stress or to recognize that, munities that are impacted and all of Sponsored Entities, the Federal Na- of the many men and women coming the things that go with it. tional Mortgage Association and the home today, back in the Vietnam war, Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corpora- they wouldn’t have lived with their b 2115 tion, which were, in effect, taken over, damage and with their injuries. That’s And we passed something that the placed into conservatorship. right. Today, they’re coming home, Congresses in the past should have And sometimes I charge my friends and we have a responsibility. I say this done in the last few years to prevent on the Republican side of the aisle with and people understand. Americans un- this from ever happening in the first not doing what needed to be done. But derstand. We stand up for our men and place. We actually did some things now in this instance they did, back in 2005, women who put the uniform on. That’s to help get people back on their feet pass legislation that would have pre- something we feel very strongly about, and fix that. vented, or at least somehow dealt with but we have to recognize that we will But look what happened last week these GSE problems, this takeover that have to provide for them for the rest of again. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, we had to have in the last few days. their lives and that we will have to another multi billion dollar bailout. And it was Mr. Oxley who was the support their families as well. That And why are they doing this? Well, chairman of the committee at the new GI Bill is key. It was the right they have to do it is what we’re told. time. There was a piece of legislation thing to do. For many of the people But the bottom line is again, a leg- passed. He was an Ohio Republican who who don’t even know this, it even al- acy of very, very bad economic plan- headed the House Financial Services, lows the balance of those benefits to go ning, very bad policies that this admin- this is from the Financial Times of yes- to the spouse and to the children. Isn’t istration and previous Congresses were terday, until his retirement at the mid that the right thing to do for the fami- not able to do anything or had no will term elections last year. Blames the lies? to do anything about. mess, meaning the takeover of Fannie Mr. KAGEN. Yes. Mr. KLEIN of Florida. I mean that’s The bottom line is, though, we are a Mae and Freddie Mac, on ideologues the ‘‘thank you’’ that Americans want resilient people as Americans. We have within the White House, as well as to give the men and women who serve a resilient economy, and we will get be- Alan Greenspan, former chairman of us, but when we are asked to serve in yond there. the Federal Reserve. He says, he fumes our military, we need to make sure it So I’m all for the education part; I’m about the criticism of his House col- is the right place and the right time all for the job training part, our com- leagues. All the hand wringing and bed and for our national security interests, munity colleges, our universities, our wetting is going on without remem- which is, unfortunately, what went scholarships, the job training, the skill bering how the House stepped up on wrong. sets to get everybody back to work and this. He continues, ‘‘What did we get The gentlewoman from Ohio, you the recognition that if we are going to from the White House? We got a one- have led the fight in this Congress on do some economic stimulus thing, let’s finger salute.’’ jobs. I’m from Ohio originally. You and get our infrastructure, let’s go out He finishes, ‘‘We missed a golden op- I talk about that. I grew up in Cleve- there in the community. portunity, we, being the United States land. Now, as a Floridian, I know we Mr. KAGEN. Would the gentleman of America missed a golden oppor- have a different set of economic issues yield? Thank you for yielding. tunity that would have avoided a lot of in Florida, but they’re very similar in On that front, the single greatest fis- problems we’re facing now if we hadn’t terms of jobs being lost overseas. I cal economic challenge we are going to had such a firm ideological position at want to point this board out real fast be facing is a health care crisis. It is the White House and the Treasury and here because it talks about jobs cre- the number one fiscal challenge for our the FED.’’ ated through August in President Clin- budget in the Federal Government. It’s We now have had to take over these ton’s years. also the major challenge of every busi- entities that have supplied money to There were 1.47 million jobs created ness, be it small or large business. It help us all buy houses for decades and under President Clinton. In President also challenges city governments, decades and decades, and it’s as a re- Bush’s 8 years—— whether it’s a town or a county govern- sult of a White House that didn’t be- Mr. KAGEN. In 8 months. ment and every family across America. lieve in any kind of regulation. We Mr. KLEIN of Florida. Excuse me. In And that is why I believe we have to talked about it just a few minutes ago, 8 months. Thank you. In these last 8 begin to have a discussion about mak- with these guys over at the Minerals

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We to that which they need for their fami- you do, getting that re-established in a can’t have these same old policies any- lies, who are just fighting to keep a way that we earn the respect and work more, ladies and gentlemen. We can’t roof over their heads. And these people well with our partners around the afford it. This country can’t afford it. are doing things right. They’re doing world to really make sure that our na- We’re too great a Nation. We’re too everything right. And yet, this is a tional security is protected. And most great a people. Our neighbors, our country, when you do things right, you importantly, get our economy, our friends, our families sacrifice too much ought to be able to make it. And we American families in Ohio, in West to have this kind of approach by peo- can do that again. And we can, working Virginia and Wisconsin and Florida, in ple, whether it’s not regulating big with BARACK OBAMA in the White Seattle, everywhere, all over the coun- government entities or sleeping with House, it will make all the difference try, that we will get them back in the people you’re supposed to regulate. in the world. shape and give those Americans the op- We can’t have that anymore. We can’t Mr. KLEIN, would you like to share portunities that they’ve always had. have more of the same. with us your thoughts and perhaps And every generation, that principle of We need a change. We need a new di- wrap up here a little bit? every generation having it a little bet- rection. That new direction is going to Mr. KLEIN of Florida. Well, I think ter than the last generation. It’s what be BARACK OBAMA, it’s going to be the it’s really been an honor and privilege my parents fought for. It’s what my Democrats. We’ve got to finish the to be with my colleagues tonight. It’s grandparents fought for and it’s what change that was begun in 2006 with the been an honor and privilege to serve as we fight for our children. election of a new White House with the freshman class, as Democrats and So I thank our President, Madam new policies that are going to renew serving with our Republican colleagues BETTY SUTTON from Ohio, PETER this Nation. And we can do that. And I as well. This is a great institution. Our WELCH from Vermont, Mr. PERLMUTTER know that, by all of us working to- country is a great country. from the great State of Colorado, Dr. gether, there really is hope for this Na- We’ve pointed out, as you said from KAGEN from Wisconsin, Mr. MURPHY tion, and we’re going to take the ac- the very beginning, where we’re start- from Connecticut. It’s just a small rep- tion that brings about jobs and health ing from. That’s the reality. I mean, as resentation of a great group of people care and, really, a return to what we decisionmakers, if you’re in business or that really are working very hard to do know is great about this Nation. you run your household, you always the right thing by Americans and get Mr. KAGEN. Together we will. have to know where you start from in Mr. PERLMUTTER. And so I’d like our country back on track. order to make good decisions going for- to turn it back to the President of our Thank you very much, Madam ward. Speaker. class, the Honorable BETTY SUTTON And unfortunately, our next Presi- from Ohio. Ms. SUTTON. I think that was a dent and this next Congress and our Ms. SUTTON. I thank the gentleman great wrap up. I’d like to just, if I from Colorado, and you put it so well. country is going to be saddled for a lit- could, point it back over to Represent- You put it so well. Our country de- tle while with debt. And that’s some- ative KAGEN from Wisconsin, because I serves better, and we need to deliver thing we can start to dig our way out. think, again, what we’re talking about better with a new president. And And one thing that we did in this Con- here are the faces in that picture and gress, Democrats leading the charge BARACK OBAMA has the potential to the opportunity and the potential that make that happen, and we are ready, here on our fiscal conservative policies we know that this country is full of and we want to work in a bipartisan is PAYGO. And that’s a principle that and we have to help unleash so it way to help him get us where we need everybody operates. You may not know works for the people in that photo- to go, where we know we can go on all what that means. PAYGO, pay as you graph and people all across this coun- of these issues with the economy, with go. It’s the most simple principle. If try, and certainly the people in Ohio’s health care. you have a checkbook, you can’t spend 13 District. Health care has been a tragedy. The more money than what’s in your Dr. KAGEN. President, the Bush administration checkbook. Or if you have a credit Mr. KAGEN. You’re looking at the started out, the President saying card, you can’t spend more money than face of America, from the middle part America’s children must also have a you can afford to pay back every of the country in Northeast Wisconsin, healthy start in life. And a new term month. and they may have lost their job, but will lead an aggressive effort to enroll Well, why should Congress, in the they will not give up their hope. millions of poor children who are eligi- last 6 years under the administration, We’re all working hard here to bring ble but not signed up for government operate under this principle of because about the changes, we need like knock- health insurance programs. He said we can print money, they just keep ing down the price for energy and gas that in September of 2004. printing? and heating fuel, like bringing on the But nearly 1 in 9 children does not Well, fortunately last year a new higher-wage jobs that we need just to have health insurance. And the Presi- principle is involved here. And now, put a roof over our head and guarantee dent vetoed the expansion of SCHIP when we pass a bill, unless it’s an that our children have an opportunity that he called for in 2004. And House emergency, we have to make sure the to get the great education that they re- Republicans voted to sustain that veto, money is in the budget. No, based on quire. leaving millions of children without speculation that in the next number of And most importantly to me, as a health insurance. months we’re going to have all this physician and a legislator, we’re going We also know that health premiums new revenue in here. Things have to provide access to affordable care for have increased 78 percent since the ad- slowed down a little bit, so we have to every citizen everywhere in these ministration took office. And the num- be realistic. That’s exactly what the United States. The face of America, ber of Americans covered by private American people expect, and that’s the keep hope high. We’re here to help you. employer-provided insurance has de- kind of leadership we’re delivering. Ms. SUTTON. I yield back. creased 7 years in a row. It is a com- So I am pretty excited about the fis- f petitiveness issue as well for our busi- cal policies under this Congress, and nesses. Our employers cannot bear this we’re beginning to get them where THE TRUTH SQUAD burden and compete effectively. This is they should be. A new president with The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. a national emergency. new policies, not tied to the old poli- MCNERNEY). Under the Speaker’s an- But again, the good news is that if we cies as we’ve been talking tonight will nounced policy of January 18, 2007, the deviate away from the path that has deliver on that on our health care, on gentlewoman from North Carolina (Ms.

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The Republicans took control of bring his perspective to this. book, 1984, because what you’ve seen the House in 1994, in the fall of 1994, Mr. HOEKSTRA. I thank my col- exhibited here tonight is a living exam- and came into office in 1995. Certainly league for yielding. And as we go ple of that book, where people distort we had a good economy under Presi- through the next period of time, we the facts, they distort the past, and dent Clinton, but it was because the may have the opportunity to have certainly distort the facts. Republicans were in charge of the Con- more of a dialogue to talk a little bit I do have to say a couple of things. gress. about the energy issue and the chal- We’re here tonight to talk about en- The Democrats conveniently leave lenges that we are facing as a Nation. ergy and the failed energy policies of that little fact out. They give all the Of course you and I remember that the Democratically controlled Con- credit to President Clinton. It wasn’t early in August when Congress re- gress. The Democrats are in control of President Clinton’s policies that gave cessed, we were on this floor that Fri- the Congress, and they have been since us a great economy. It was the Repub- day where a number of us had signed up January 2007. And I think it’s very, lican Congress. for the opportunity to address our col- very important that we continue to re- They talk about the problems with leagues but most importantly to ad- mind the American people of that. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the dress the American people on the issue For one thing, my colleagues talked failed administration. I think we will of energy. And we can sign up for 5 about the 605,000 jobs lost in the last 8 see more and more coming out that the minutes, but our colleagues on the months. Well, I’m here to say that’s be- problems with Fannie Mae and Freddie other side of the aisle said, ‘‘No, we’re cause the Democrats are in charge of Mac are because of the liberal policies going home,’’ and they shut down de- Congress. They want to blame it on the of the Democrats forcing banks, mort- bate. President. The President can’t make gage companies, loan companies to We came to the floor. We continued anything happen about those jobs that make loans to people who should never talking on the floor as they turned are lost. Congress can. And the Amer- have gotten loans. I’m sure there’s down the lights, as they turned off C– ican people have to hold the Democrats some greed out there, and I’m sure that SPAN as they attempted to lock the in charge of the Congress accountable. there are some characters that we press from covering the issues as to ex- wouldn’t like being in the business. actly what was happening here on the b 2130 But most of it was because of the lib- floor of the House. I do want to get on to energy, but I eral policies that they put into effect We continued that process for the have to make, again, a couple of com- years ago. next 5 weeks until Congress belatedly ments about what was said here to- I do want to say that I appreciate came back into session this past Mon- night. what we have done for our veterans in day. And as my colleague has indi- We had a ‘‘Truth Squad’’ that used to this session of Congress, but the folks cated, we came back into session, and meet on a regular basis here to correct who spoke before us said they thanked we’ve done no meaningful legislation. the misstatements made by our col- the men and women who served us, and We haven’t dealt with the issue of the leagues almost every night, not every I do, too. We’re going to be celebrating threats of radical jihadists. We haven’t night. But I want to bring this Truth 9/11 tomorrow, 2001. We’ll not celebrate dealt with health care, we haven’t Squad back in the form of just me to- but commemorate what happened that dealt with energy. Prices back in my night by talking about some of the day. And I want to say I’m so grateful district have again spiked up this week things, again, that they have said. to the men and women who are cur- even though the price of oil has come I really was a little surprised that rently serving in our military because down about 30 percent of its high of they focused so much on the war. I they are all volunteers. $147. You know, prices at the pump think it’s really emblematic, again, of These folks say they think they’ve spiked back up this week their running away from the issue been serving in the wrong places, And for some people, the issue of en- that’s most important to the American they’ve been put in the wrong places. ergy is an inconvenience. Paying a lit- people, and that is the high price of Well, I thank the good Lord many tle bit more or paying a lot more at the gasoline and the high price of fuel oil. times every day that we have men and pump is an inconvenience to some peo- And they made lots of promises to- women who are willing to serve this ple. But I can tell you in July, I spent night, just like the Democrats did in country no matter where it is they a part of a morning at the gas station 2006 when they were running for elec- have to serve because they believe in pumping gas. People would come in; I tion and asked the American people to this country and they will go wherever would help fill up their cars. They give them the majority. Well, the it is necessary for them to serve. would fill out a survey for me. I would American people did give them the ma- Now again, I want to talk more about spend some time talking to them. And jority, and every promise they made energy now because that is what I for a number of these people, filling up has been broken. They promised to think has created so many of the prob- their tank is now a hardship. bring down the price of gasoline. They lems that we’re facing. And I think you and I would agree promised to make this the most open My colleagues and I were here all that we wish they had a proposal on Congress ever, the most bipartisan during the month of August while the the other side of the aisle. We wish Congress. Every one of those promises Democrats went on vacation. They that they would bring energy to the was broken. took a 5-week vacation. And in fact, floor of the House for us to debate be- What we need to be focusing on, and they’re still on vacation because this cause this problem is only going to get what Republicans have been focusing week, we’re doing practically nothing worse. on for the 20 months that the Demo- here in the Congress. We have passed I live in a northern State. Today my crats have been in control of the Con- bills like commemorating the Kingdom constituents are challenged with the gress, has been the high price of energy of Bhutan’s participation in the 2008 price of filling up their gas tank, be- and how that price has been going Smithsonian Folk Life Festival, really cause I went through the district dur- steadily up. And again, I was a little important things to be doing while we ing August. I found people who drove bit amazed tonight that the focus of should be voting on the American En- as much as 40, 50, 60 miles one way to the group just before me was on the ergy Act, the bill that would create all- work. So they’re putting on 80 to 100, war and on the economy and blaming of-the-above alternatives for us. 120 miles a day. Filling up their gas all of that on somebody else. And I want to recognize now my col- tank is a hardship. They talked about how jobs had in- league from Michigan (Mr. HOEKSTRA) In those same areas, when we get to creased under the Clinton administra- who has served his State and this coun- November, December, January, they’re

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They’ll put in, especially House. Bottom line on this. This year we when it comes to drilling, and they’ll Now, they went into a caucus today, will run about a $600 to $700 billion say well you can drill in these specific and we see how they’re writing their trade deficit. If we became energy inde- areas. legislation. It’s kind of like we’re going pendent, our trade deficit would ap- But as one of my colleagues, Con- to get a plan that can get 218 Demo- proach zero. Trade deficit isn’t manu- gressman SHADEGG, has pointed out, I cratic votes. They’re not going to in- facturing. It’s none of these things. It’s think in Alaska and some other areas, troduce a bill. They’re not doing to energy. And if we invest in that, we where 487 leases were issued, every sin- take it to a subcommittee, have hear- could move forward. gle one of those leases has been chal- ings on it, have people come in and say, Ms. FOXX. Would the gentleman lenged multiple times through the you know, here is what we really like yield? process by radical environmental about your bill and what we think real- Mr. HOEKSTRA. I will yield. groups to make sure that no drilling ly works, and we think this may be a We’re joined by a few of our friends, takes place. Those folks know that we weakness. People proposing amend- and I think we can have a spirited dis- can open this up, but because we’ve ments, they vote on amendments, the cussion about the future of America created these environmental standards, bill gets better, it goes to full com- rather than focusing on the past. So the radical environmental standard, no mittee, you go through the same proc- thank you for yielding. drilling will ever take place. ess, and it comes to the floor of the Ms. FOXX. I agree with you. Ms. FOXX. I think that, even though House where again, people like you and Do you remember some of the prom- we haven’t seen the bill, I feel certain I who might not be on a committee of ises that were made by the then minor- that I will be able to give that bill the jurisdiction, if we’ve got a good idea or ity? Emperor’s New Clothes Award because something that we think is a good idea, Mr. HOEKSTRA. If the gentlelady it will pretend to do something but it we have the opportunity to present it will yield, I think the big promise will do nothing. So I can just about bet to our colleagues and have it voted on was—I have Speaker PELOSI saying, I that it’s going to do nothing and will to see if it can be part of this final have a secret plan. deserve the Emperor’s New Clothes package. That’s not the process they’re I’m not sure that she said ‘‘secret.’’ Award. I have the Emperor’s New going to use. Ms. FOXX. I think she said, ‘‘I have Clothes Award here. You can see it on They’re writing a bill in secret, and a commonsense plan.’’ the podium here, and so I’m going to we have no idea what it is. And I would Mr. HOEKSTRA. ‘‘I have a common- give it the Emperor’s New Clothes guess, you know, we thought maybe it sense plan to lower the price of gaso- Award. I know that’s what it’s going to would come out Friday. They’re not line.’’ Whoa. deserve. going to hit that deadline. They’re You know, I hope that she let’s Mr. SHIMKUS. I think as we talk maybe coming out with a bill Monday America know soon what it is because about this, and I hope our colleagues or Tuesday. It will probably be a thou- for the last 20 months under Speaker join in. I come from the great State of sand pages, and they will say, Con- PELOSI, her commonsense plan has only Michigan and we’re struggling. Last gresswoman, here it is. Here is our en- meant pain and hardship for my con- month, we were at 8.5 percent unem- ergy plan. Congressman, here it is. We stituents. ployment. My expectation is that now will say, What is it? They will say, Ms. FOXX. And I think that what we with what’s happened at the national Read it. And it’s like, whoa. need to do is take some of the promises level that unemployment rate is going And we already know what it’s going that were spewed out here tonight by to go up. to be. We’re for all-of-the-above: Explo- these folks who had the hour before us But as we struggle with these energy ration, drilling for American oil, nat- and put them next to all of those prom- costs, it has absolutely hammered jobs. ural gas, we’re for conservation, we’re ises that were made by Speaker PELOSI It has absolutely hammered the auto- for higher fuel efficiency standards and and majority leader HOYER in 2006 and motive industry and these types of automobiles and those types of things. say, well, if they delivered on these things, and the refusal of our col- We’re for alternative technology and promises in 2006, then maybe we could leagues to deal with this issue means investing in wind, solar, geothermal, believe they will deliver on these prom- increased unemployment and increased and all of those types of things recog- ises in the next election. hardship for a State like Michigan. nizing that to fix the problem on en- Mr. HOEKSTRA. If the gentlelady And you know, our Governor came ergy, we need an all-of-the-above solu- will yield for a minute. out recently and said I can’t believe tion because nuclear alone won’t fix it, I thought it was pretty interesting on that Michigan may be in play in this drilling alone won’t fix it. T. Boone the floor when the minority leader on election, and it’s kind of like, excuse Pickens is right. We can’t drill our way the floor, Mr. BOEHNER from Ohio, was me, Republicans are going to do very out of this problem. But we can help. talking about a procedural vote here well in the State of Michigan because Right now one final comment, and on the floor and said, ‘‘Will you allow Democrats in Washington have refused then we can talk about this. a vote on the American Energy Inde- to deal with the issue of energy. And if Sitting on the Intelligence Com- pendence Bill?’’ And the answer after people want to take a look at what mittee we know where we’re getting he asked that question three or four America might look like under a Dem- the oil from. We get a lot from Canada, times, the folks on that side of the ocrat administration all the way a lot from Mexico. These are two reli- aisle started saying, ‘‘No, no, no,’’ through, take a look at Michigan. able allies, although there is some in- meaning they don’t want to have a full Michigan, our Governor came up stability from Mexico. After that, the and complete debate on energy. with a brilliant strategy of saying, you neighborhood gets to be pretty ugly. What really makes me concerned is know, we’ve got the highest unemploy- Nigeria. Nigeria is a great country, that they’re going to throw up—we ment rate in the country. You know but it has a tremendous amount of in- know what they’re going to—we’re for what we ought to do? To attract more stability and corruption. all-of-the-above. They’re going to come business, to attract more investment You then go to the Middle East. A lot out with a plan later on, who knows. I to the State of Michigan, let’s raise of these folks are not our friends. wouldn’t even call it a plan. They will taxes and let’s make sure people don’t You then go to Russia. Ask the Geor- come out with a piece of paper, and as understand exactly how much or where gians. Is Russia a reliable ally? Ask the we dissect it, it will be none-of-the- those taxes are going to be raised be- people in Ukraine. Is Russia a reliable above. They’re not for nuclear, they’re cause we think that will get people to

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If Member, maybe a Democratic Member, I’ll be the first to tell you, you know, they want to do and invest in Michi- will stand up on this floor and offer an our critics, the critics of the Repub- gan, they’ve got to be going down the amendment to provide for additional lican Party will say that Republicans expressway in Indiana, and depending American energy production from tra- are too focused on production and sup- on whether they’re going east or west, ditional sources. ply. Critics of the Democrats will say they’ve got to make a left turn or a So we’re not dealing with the most that they’re too focused on conserva- right turn. And I’ll tell you, they’re important business of Congress, which tion and efficiency. The truth is we not turning into Michigan anymore be- is to fund the government because must do both, and I’ll be the first to cause they’re looking at Ohio, Illinois, there is fear to deal with the energy tell you that we can’t drill our way out Indiana and all of these States, and issue, and I think it is unrealistic and of this problem, but drilling is most as- they’re saying these are pretty good unfair that there are people in this suredly part of the solution, just as States to do business in. And if we take House who, for whatever reasons, op- conservation is part of the solution, a left turn and go up into Michigan, pose traditional sources of energy. Ev- and neither can you conserve your way we’re going to be paying more in taxes. erybody here supports alternative re- out of the problem. We will just kind of stay on the inter- newable fuels, but we also know we So we need people to be pragmatic, state and do business here. need to deal with the here and the now. come down here and support something But that’s what, you know, we’re fac- I come from a State, Pennsylvania, reasonable. The American Energy Act ing with a Democrat leadership that where we are rich in coal resources, about which we’ve been speaking to- not only won’t deal with the energy where oil was discovered in Titusville, night is a good piece of legislation. It issue, but will raise taxes because they Pennsylvania, by Colonel Drake some deals with all of the above, the alter- believe the best way for America to be time ago. We have tremendous natural natives, renewables, transitions to the competitive on a global basis is not to gas reserves. My State has been part of future, as well as traditional sources of grow American industries but to tax the energy solution for this Nation for energy, conservation, efficiency. American industries and to tax the a very long time and will continue to There’s another bill out there, the American citizen so that we can feed be. Peterson-Abercrombie bill, which is a this beast in Washington. Ms. FOXX. I heard that the United genuine bipartisan bill that there’s a Ms. FOXX. Thank you. I appreciate States is the Saudi Arabia of coal and lot in there I like and there’s some my colleague from Michigan explaining that we have three times the coal re- things I’m not particularly crazy the Michigan situation. I want to make serves that Saudi Arabia has in oil re- about, but I would support that bill. just one comment, and I’m going to serves. Have you heard the same thing? I’m a cosponsor of it. In the name of ask some of my other colleagues to Mr. DENT. I’ve heard the same thing, compromise, I’m willing to support leg- speak. and I believe that reference is to some When the Democrats took over the islation that will advance this discus- of the vast oil shale reserves out in the Congress in 2007, January 2007, we had sion and actually, more importantly, Rocky Mountain West. But I know in had 54 straight months of job growth advance America’s energy security. terms of coal, it’s estimated that we At the end of the day, the American under a Republican-led Congress and a have about 250 years’ worth of coal sup- Republican administration. What they people want us to become less depend- ply, assuming we’re consuming at the refuse to admit is, as soon as they took ent on unstable parts of the world for current levels. over the Congress, the price of gasoline fossil fuel. I think you and I agree to What I did want to say, though, is started going up, and as the price of that, but it’s going to require leaders coal is responsible for 50 percent of the gasoline started going up, so did the to say, yes, take an affirmative ap- electricity generated in the United unemployment rate. There is no deny- proach to energy. But as you know, too States. Nuclear energy is responsible ing these facts. They caused this prob- many people here are not willing to do for about 20 percent. Natural gas for lem. We’ve been pointing this out week that, and I have to lay the blame at the after week. We’re finally, we think, another 20 percent. I’m up to 90 per- doorstep of the Speaker of the House. getting through that the Democrats cent. There’s a little bit of other. Pe- I thank Ms. FOXX, my classmate, for are in charge of the Congress, and it is troleum, hydroelectric takes a fair allowing me to speak on this important their policies that have created these amount. Solar and wind I think ac- issue. problems. count for about 1 percent. Ms. FOXX. I want to thank my class- I want to recognize now my colleague But unfortunately, while I strongly mate, Congressman DENT from Penn- from Pennsylvania I think who has support solar, wind, geothermal and sylvania, for illuminating this issue some comments to make about this sit- other renewables, I also know there are from his perspective in Pennsylvania. uation, and we’ve been suddenly joined too many people in this Congress that, Now I want to turn it over to a new by several people. And so I do hope though renewables account for 1 per- Member of Congress this year who’s that we’ll have a great dialogue here, cent of our source, it accounts for 100 been, I think, one of the really bright but with my classmate, my colleague percent of their talking points. lights in the Congress, who’s one of the from Pennsylvania, I yield to you. The truth is we know we’re going to most articulate people that we have in Mr. DENT. I’d like to thank the need coal. We need to clean it up. Clean the Congress, Congresswoman gentlelady from North Carolina for her coal technology, there’s a lot of inter- MICHELLE BACHMANN from the Min- leadership on this very important esting, carbon capture, storage seques- neapolis/St. Paul area, which just issue. tration going on out there. We need to hosted many of us who were at the Re- Mr. Speaker, I feel it’s very impor- develop that technology. I think we all publican National Convention. tant that as with Members of Congress understand, too, that if we want to And I want to say that it was cer- we lead, and there are a lot of things lower carbon emissions in America tainly ‘‘Minnesota Nice.’’ The folks in that the Congress would like to do, we’re going to need to expand nuclear Minnesota were fabulous. They treated need to do, but there’s one thing that energy. us very well, very friendly, just like we must do, and that is fund the Fed- But again, many people in this build- the people in North Carolina. I was ex- eral Government. I think it is a dere- ing are opposed to coal technology. tremely pleased to be there, and I want liction of duty on the part of this They’re opposed to nuclear. They’re op- to ask you if you will share some of Speaker of the House and this Congress posed to drilling for gas and oil where your perspectives on this issue of en- that this Congress has failed, has failed those resources may actually be. So ergy. to deal with the various spending bills, that really limits our options as a Na- Mrs. BACHMANN. Thank you, Ms. the appropriations bills to fund the tion. FOXX. I appreciate that. government. We have to get to work. Everybody Minneapolis/St. Paul is a very nice The reason why this Congress is not knows it. And this is not a Republican area. Minnesota is the ‘‘Land of Min- dealing with these appropriations bills issue or a Democratic issue. This is an nesota Nice,’’ and we really do love

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As a matter of fact, up in Alaska, We have, as Representative DENT of Trans-Alaska Pipeline which extends what I was told is that entry-level jobs Pennsylvania said, we have an abun- 800 miles from Prudhoe Bay down to on the North Slope pay over $100,000 a dance of coal. We’re the leader in the Valdez, when we built that 31 years ago year plus benefits. There’s a lot of peo- world. Twenty-seven percent of the we were producing 2.1 million barrels of ple from the great State of Minnesota world’s supply of coal lies here in the oil a day. Do you know where we’re at that would go up to take those jobs. United States of America. now? Seven hundred thousand barrels a We have the answer. We have got the We’re the Saudi Arabia of oil in three day. Within 10 years we will be down to ticket. We don’t have to be mired States alone: Utah, Colorado, Wis- $300,000 barrels a day. You know what under $4 a gallon gas or $6 or $8 or $10. consin. We have more oil than all of happens, Mr. Speaker, when we get Under a Republican-controlled Con- Saudi Arabia contained in shale oil. down to 300,000 barrels a day? When we We have an abundance of natural gas. gress, Mr. Speaker, the American peo- get to that point, this energy lifeline ple will get back to paying $2 a gallon We have over 420 trillion cubic square that feeds the lower 48, it’s going to feet of natural gas, and that’s just in or less. This is real, and it can happen shut down. And, I mean, when it shuts very quickly. And that’s why I’m so the Gulf of Mexico. down, you can’t add another oil field We have so much oil and we haven’t grateful to the gentlelady from North and bring it back up into production. even begun to tap what we have in Carolina for bringing this important And do you know, Mr. Speaker, what it terms of nuclear power, what we can do discussion and reminding the American costs us to replace this energy lifeline? with wind, what we can do with solar, people that under a Democrat-con- Fifteen billion dollars. And it isn’t just with all of the inventions that are yet the $15 billion, it would take several trolled Congress we’ve seen gasoline to come out of brilliant young entre- years to rebuild this because this pipe- prices increase 76 percent. And that preneurs. All we need to do is unleash line is made out of stainless steel, and can take a nosedive if we see real it. stainless steel doesn’t come cheap any- change at the ballot box this Novem- But right now, you’re looking, Mr. ber. Speaker, at the problem for this, for more. We are in trouble. Because if, as the the energy crisis. It isn’t lack of re- Ms. FOXX. Well, I thank my col- Democrat nominee, BARACK OBAMA, sources. It certainly isn’t lack of tech- league, Congresswoman BACHMANN has said, he doesn’t plan to do any nology. What it is is lack of will on the from Minnesota. And I want to say she more drilling, and Speaker PELOSI, part of the United States Congress. Mr. has boiled it down to a very simple NANCY PELOSI, the Democrat-con- Speaker, the Democrat-controlled fact. And I say that people in this Con- trolled House, has said she really United States Congress is the problem gress are either pro American energy doesn’t plan any more drilling, or as for America’s energy crisis. Look no or anti American energy. And I think HARRY REID has told us, he really further. The Democrat-controlled Con- we know the difference in the two doesn’t believe in more drilling, if the gress, under their leadership, their aus- groups of folks. Democrats have their way, there won’t picious leadership, has led to an in- be more drilling. And so we will have The people who don’t want us to crease of 76 percent in the price of gas- this energy pipeline that has served produce energy in this country are anti oline at the pump. our interests for over 31 years, it’s American energy. They don’t want us b 2200 going to shut down within 10 years to be independent of these foreign Seventy-six percent increase. I’ve time. Shut down. So if we thought $4 a countries. It is a difficult thing for me only been here 20 months, and we’ve gallon was a lot to pay for energy, to understand, it’s a difficult thing for seen gas prices go up 76 percent under we’re going to think that’s a cheap my constituents to understand. Democrat-controlled leadership. date because it’s going to be $6, $8, $10 And as our colleague, Mr. DENT from Minority leader JOHN BOEHNER made a gallon because the Democrat-con- Pennsylvania, said, we want all those a decision late in the month of July. trolled Congress has said, no how, no alternatives, but they only produce a He decided to lead 10 Republicans to go way, not on their watch are we ever small part of what we’re going to need. up to Alaska to visit the ANWR region going to start drilling. It’s not going to Perhaps eventually we will have the that has been so vilified, that we’ve happen. And it’s not going to happen technology to produce more of it. But been told that we absolutely cannot under BARACK OBAMA. we have to increase our supply of gas drill up in ANWR, that somehow the There is a very real choice that the and oil and other fossil fuels to get us world will come to an end if we drill in voters have to make come this Novem- through this situation that we’re in ANWR. Well, JOHN BOEHNER, with his ber, and it’s this: Do you want to pay leadership, took 10 Republicans—and I $2 a gallon for gas under a President now until we get to those alternatives. And certainly we want them, but was blessed enough to be one of those MCCAIN and a Vice President Palin— Republicans to go not only to Colorado who will drill, by the way, for new en- they’re a small part right now of what to visit the National Renewable Energy ergy—or do you want to pay $6, $8 or we can produce. Laboratory, but also up to Alaska to $10 a gallon for gasoline very soon Other people who have joined us to- ANWR. under a BARACK OBAMA and a Demo- night include my great colleague who And there is one little story that I crat-controlled Congress who said no is on the Constitution Caucus with me want to tell the American people be- way, no how, never under their watch and is often here speaking on the Con- fore I hand this over to my colleagues will they begin the drilling process? stitution, a former teacher from the to continue, and it’s this: While we It’s that simple: $2 a gallon, or $6, $8 or State of Utah. Now, former teachers were up in Alaska visiting our oil-rich $10 a gallon? That’s what the American like Congressman BISHOP and I often region where we were able to go to the people will be asking themselves. have tendencies to speak for 50 minutes North Slope—here is the North Slope of And I’ll tell you one thing, under a at a time, but since there are other Alaska. Thirty-one years ago, the Republican-controlled Congress, if we folks here tonight, I’m hoping he is not North Slope of Alaska was the largest can get there this fall, this November, going to speak for 50 minutes. But he is producing oil field in the United there will be a change. There will be going to be very eloquent in what he States. Sadly, 31 years later, this is drilling in ANWR. There will be drill- shares with us. still the largest producing oil region. ing in the oil shale region. There will Why? Because we have a Prohibition- be drilling in the Outer Continental I yield to my colleague, Mr. BISHOP era mentality when it comes to produc- Shelf. There will be expansion of clean from Utah. tion of American energy legislation. coal technology. There will be building Mr. BISHOP of Utah. I thank you for Because this Congress has made a deci- of 45 new nuclear power plants. Instead that kind introduction. And it won’t be

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When we ativity we need to solve our problems. to join the others, especially the say we need an all-of-the-above solu- And what we should be doing as a gov- gentlelady from Minnesota, who paint- tion, it means we need an all-of-the- ernment is not trying to dictate solu- ed such a marvelous vision of what we above solution. tions from here in these hallowed halls, could, indeed, be doing in the future if The common fossil fuels are as im- but allowing Americans to find their we just come together on this par- portant to solve our energy problem solutions by themselves and then re- ticular issue. now as expanding alternative energy warding them for it. There are many people who have sources will be to solve our problem in When England became a superpower said, you know, where have we been all the future. But one of the issues we on the oceans, they did not have a way these years on this particular issue? I have never faced in this country—once of mapping the oceans, so they estab- haven’t been here forever, but I do again, another decision we’ve made im- lished a prize of 20,000 pounds to the know, from my years here as well as in properly years ago—is an adequate way first person who could figure out how the State legislature in Utah, that we of funding our investment and expan- to do it. And the British clock maker have been arguing this issue for years. sion of alternative resources. from London who invented latitude and One of the freshman Members today Now, one of the things we could do if longitude, we are still using his inven- came to the floor and criticized us for we actually do increase our production tion. When Napoleon started marching why we haven’t done any of these of oil and natural gas and oil shale and with his troops, he realized he did not issues earlier. And the bottom line is: coal is to use the expanded royalties have a way of feeding them, so he gave We did. I have not been here forever, this Federal Government would receive a 14,000 frank prize to the first person but there have been countless votes I and funnel those royalties into build- to solve the problem. The vacuum- have made in favor of drilling in ANWR ing and developing our alternative re- packed concept of food is the same and I would do so again. I have made sources for the future. And that’s what thing he invented for 14,000 franks and countless votes in this body on expand- the all-of-the-above American Energy we still use today. When Lindbergh ing our offshore drilling leases and per- Act wants to do. It is both of those. flew across the ocean he was after a mits in areas and would do so again. I have found, to my utter amaze- prize from a newspaper. And the aero- From the very first day I came here, ment, there is no source of energy that nautics industry has developed from it. JOHN PETERSON has been extolling the does not have its critics. How can one All we need to do is say we will re- problems this economy will face if we be opposed to solar power? Although ward Americans for coming up and pro- don’t face up to the fact we have a when we tried to build a solar plant in ducing a solution and reward them well dwindling supply of natural gas here in New Mexico, people were opposed to it for it, and they will solve the problem the United States. We have been talk- because it would take up too much of without our expert attention driving ing about this forever. Even before the desert. How can you be opposed to that way. Speaker PELOSI changed my mindset wind power? Although I was reading an Now, we’ve heard a lot of blame and told me that natural gas is not a article in a local paper of a farmer in about the problem. We’ve heard Big Oil fossil fuel and you don’t actually have Wyoming who was opposed to wind blame because they’re gouging people, to drill to get it, despite that fact there power plants simply because the therefore let’s tax them—which is what is something that is different now. And wushing of the blades makes too much we tried 30 years ago when the develop- like most issues that come to their noise, or it chops up too many birds ment dried up; or we have said that prime, there is a catalyst that changes that are part of the Migratory Bird they have leases out there they’re not and a catalyst that drives the issue for- Treaty. using it, so use it or lose it—even ward. We have seen that this year. Every source of energy has somebody though that’s exactly what the status I come from the West, which is the who is opposed to it, which is why, if quo is, indeed, doing. We’ve had all energy-producing section. Some of my we’re really going to reach a consensus sorts of other ideas that Big Oil is the friends in the areas that I call the ‘‘en- of everybody, the only solution is to problem here. As Newt Gingrich said, if ergy consuming’’ sections have been say nothing is off the table, we develop you really want to help Exxon, do very happy over the years to try and everything. It is the only real solution, nothing. They already have their oil. lock up areas of the West and areas off it is the only fair solution, and that’s Sixty-eight percent of all the oil that the coast which produce energy, and what we are after. If we care about con- is being drilled in this country and 87 they can do it with impunity because it sumers in the future, we develop every- percent of all the natural gas being has no impact on their lives. But all of thing. drilled in this country today are being a sudden, when you start paying 4 Conservation is essential, but we all done by small entrepreneurial compa- bucks a gallon of gas, then something know conservation alone does not solve nies, 200 employees or less, names of is different. our problem. But the American Energy which no one in this body has ever The massive spike in gasoline prices Act is the only bill that actually has heard. at the pump over the last 2 years is the real incentives for Americans to con- If we really want to expand our econ- catalyst that is taking the argu- serve and rewarding them for efforts to omy and add competition, which will ments—and the arguments that we conserve. We realize we do not have the lower price, expand the efforts of peo- have said over and over and over again infrastructure to move energy from ple to become involved in this process. year after year—and have finally driv- one part of this country to the other. What we need is not another political en it to the point where everyone real- And the American Energy Act is the scheme, we have had 30 years of them; izes mistakes we have made in our en- only one that realizes we must put we need real solutions. And that is ergy policy and our land policy for the extra money and effort into building what we want, a vote on a real solu- past 30 years have brought us to the our infrastructure or everything else is tion, not some faux solution, a real one situation where we are today. And the useless. We are the only ones that real- that actually addresses real issues for cost we are paying at the pump is be- ize it has legal impediments. As was real Americans and solves their real cause of misguided decisions we have mentioned before, as soon as you open problems. made for over 30 years. And now is the up an area, it is immediately open to time where Americans are ready to open-ended standing so that anybody b 2215 stand up all over this country and say can sue, and that is, indeed, what hap- Groucho Marx once said that ‘‘poli- now is the time we need to take a new pened. And in the Americans for Amer- tics is the act of looking for the trou- direction with real solutions so that we ican Energy Act, that is the only area ble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing can solve where we have been brought that actually talks about reforming it incorrectly, and applying the wrong by past decisions. that process so that once a decision has remedies.’’ If we’re not careful, that’s And as has been stated before, we’re been made, we can move forward. exactly what we could do in these next not just talking about drilling. It’s one The American Energy Act is the only 2 weeks. We can’t just go for the cheap of the common arguments they say, all one that recognizes solutions are made fix political deal. We have to go for a

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The third is free stumbled into week 6 with nothing sub- I want to now recognize another dis- market green innovations. stantive being done about energy tinguished and very eloquent person in Now, why do we need all three? So we prices, an internal debate amongst our Congress, a member of the Repub- can have a responsible transition to their own caucus as to what to do if to lican leadership and chairman of the American energy security and inde- do anything. And we stand here with Republican Policy Committee, THAD- pendence. If we do not recognize that not a bluff but a bill. We have stood DEUS MCCOTTER from Michigan. He’s this problem is one of supply and de- here with the American Energy Act our second person from Michigan to- mand, if we do nothing to increase the and asked for one thing: an up-or-down night, but THADDEUS is the kind of per- supply, you can do one of two things: vote. They have refused. son who, when he speaks, everybody You can let the cost continue to esca- I have no doubt that as we proceed in listens because we have to listen very late or you can focus on the demand. If this process, the American people are closely to make sure we don’t miss all you focus solely on the demand, what not only going to be outraged by the of that wit and innuendo that he’ll you are doing to the American people fact that we have done nothing on en- share with us. is saying what some people have said ergy to help them, they are going to I now yield to the gentleman from about American gas prices: ‘‘We are look at a calendar as put forward by Michigan. better off without cheap gas.’’ This is a the Democratic majority in this Con- Mr. MCCOTTER. I thank the gentle- cold turkey policy which for ideolog- gress that has something that you who woman for yielding. ical reasons will accomplish nothing work for a living could never do. Be- I have great empathy for the gen- but pain and suffering unnecessarily on tween August 1 and January 1, this tleman from Utah who hoped for a big the American people’s family budgets Democratic Congress cares so much ending. I would prefer just a passable and on their pursuit of the American about working Americans and energy beginning; so bear with me. Dream, which I point out is not nec- that they will meet for 15 working days I come from the State of Michigan, essarily to be mandated that it has to out of 5 months for full pay. You try as my colleague who spoke earlier, occur on foot. We want a responsible doing that at your job, if you’re lucky PETER HOEKSTRA, so well earlier dis- transition to American energy security enough to have one, thanks to this cussed. We are a State that is suf- and independence, one that makes the Democratic Congress. fering. We are a manufacturing State American people full participants in Ms. FOXX. Again, I promised you that has seen job losses for several this transformational undertaking and eloquence and you received eloquence. years in a row. And what we have also does not continue the state of affairs I want to share with you some of the seen because of the high price of energy that is occurring now here in their own bills that the Democrat Congress has is a drop-off in our tourism trade both country. been presenting to us to vote on while from Michigan residents inside the Who are the best friends of Big Oil? they have been ignoring the need to State who could not afford to take a My friend from Utah touched upon it. vote on the American Energy Act. family vacation and for people who The best friends of Big Oil are the peo- How about this one: recognizing the come to our wonderful Great Lakes ple who do nothing. And for 5 weeks we American Highway User Alliance on its State to recreate. This is a twofold saw who was doing nothing and we saw 75th anniversary. Now, that was a real- problem which has done something to who was trying to do something. If you ly important bill for us to be voting on. the State of Michigan which has hap- want to be a friend to Big Oil, continue Or how about what we did this week: pened to no other of the 49 States. Last the government-mandated rationing of condemning the use of television pro- year Michigan became the only State American energy. Stop Americans from gramming by Hamas to indoctrinate in the Union to have a rise in poverty extracting their own natural resources hatred, violence, and anti-Semitism to- and a decrease in median income. to increase supply as we transition to ward Israel in young Palestinian chil- The cost of energy is exacerbating American energy security and inde- dren. I am one of the biggest sup- this suffering greatly. Now, because my pendence because if you do not allow porters of Israel that you will find, but State wants to work under difficult that supply to increase here at home, I don’t think that our passing this bill economic times, I want to express the American oil from American soil, had one wit of difference on Hamas. absolute disgust that many of us have you’re going to continue to see prices Another really significant bill: sup- for the way people who have been elect- rise. You’re going to continue to see porting the goals and ideals of National ed by the sovereign citizens of the the Big Oil companies that you claim Passport Month. When we should have United States to serve in this Congress not to like reap even greater harvest at been dealing with American energy, we have worked on their jobs. We have the gas pump, and meanwhile you will were passing that bill. seen over the month of August in know that you were complicit in this, We also passed a bill recognizing the America 84,000 American jobs lost in and we will make sure that the rest of 100th anniversary of the declaration of large part due to energy costs. In re- the country does too. the Muir Woods National Monument by sponse, the Democratic-controlled Con- In the final analysis, if we do not President Teddy Roosevelt. All of us gress took a 5-week paid vacation. have a fair up-or-down vote, the suf- Republicans are very glad to see Teddy On our part as Republicans, we came fering is going to continue and no Roosevelt honored because he’s the to this floor every day this Congress amount of political chicanery is going original conservationist. He set the should have been in session and had a to mask the fact to the American peo- tone for Republicans, and we all know speak-in with the American people ple that you refused to act and when that. But I’m sure Teddy Roosevelt about what we hoped to do on their be- you were compelled to act, you refused would have rather we had been dealing half if given the chance by the Demo- to do anything substantive that was with the American energy situation cratic majority to actually come here going to help them because all they and not commemorating something he and earn the salaries that we were have to do is drive. All they have to do had done because it was the right thing being paid. We got no response from is need any form of energy, be it gaso- to do. the Democratic Party. But we did get a line, be it home heating oil, and check Two hundred and eighty-two laws response from the American people. the price and see what did or did not have passed in the 110th Congress. And the response that we got from the occur on your behalf and who did or did Thirty-seven percent of them have American people was loud and clear: It not act. named buildings or lands. Thirty-seven was we would like to have a fair up-or- When we came back into session, percent of them passed unanimously. down vote on the bipartisan all-of-the- what did we find? We found trout wait- Another fifteen percent extended the above American energy strategy. ing for us. We decided we were going to law or made technical corrections to

VerDate Aug 31 2005 03:47 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00049 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.117 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H8008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 an existing law. This Congress has done because many things have happened in the gentlelady that spoke before me. nothing while the American people this body on a bipartisan basis, espe- These things are available today. have suffered. cially on the Veterans’ Committee that West Point, in my district, is putting The Democrats’ answer to the needs I serve on, where we are in almost in wind energy on their hundreds of of the American people for lower gas unanimous agreement on all issues. acres of campus. They are putting in a prices is ‘‘drive small cars and wait for But on the issue of energy, our col- 5,000-gallon E85 tank, which is actually the wind.’’ Ladies and gentlemen, that leagues across the aisle keep going on a breakthrough, considering the fact should not be the response of this Con- dishonest tirades about our national that thousands of flex fuel vehicles gress to the needs of the American peo- energy crisis in order to distract from have been sold in my State of New ple. When gasoline prices are $4 a gal- their record of oil company capitula- York, and there is hardly any place lon, we need to do something. And as tion and failure to protect consumers. you can even buy flex fuel or E85. my colleagues have so eloquently ex- I guess they’re operating under their We are seeing students at high pressed here tonight, we can do some- party philosophy that if you repeat schools like Arlington High School in thing. We have it within our power to something often enough, you can make Dutchess County, New York, come to create all of the energy that we need in people forget that it’s not true. I actu- me and to the New York State Energy this country at very affordable prices. ally have more faith in the American Research and Development Authority However, this Congress, led by Demo- people than that. and ask for money for solar panels so crats, controlled by Democrats, having They know that for most of this dec- that their high schools can be powered Democrats in charge, have done noth- ade energy policy has been written in today by solar power. ing to act on the needs of the American the White House by Big Oil and led to We have voted to break the chains of people. I think one of the most impor- record dependence on imports and sky- our dependence on Middle Eastern oil tant things we were able to accomplish rocketing prices. They know that Re- by using American innovation to cre- in August when many of us were here publicans in this Congress have been ate hundreds of thousands of green jobs every day talking to the American peo- pursuing a none-of-the-above strategy, that cannot be outsourced. ple on this floor because, as people blocking every attempt to move for- When I was in Denver a couple of have said before, the lights were out, ward at real energy solutions. At every weeks ago, I learned that one of the C–SPAN was off, the microphones were step, they have said no. biggest new solar photovoltaic installa- off—in fact, many of us have had trou- They said no to responsible drilling tions in Colorado was being built, for- ble speaking with microphones again in Alaska and making oil companies tunately, with American jobs doing the because we were on the floor speaking drill on the 68 million acres that are al- installation but, unfortunately, with so many times without microphones. ready open. They said no to increasing solar panels that are being built in We brought the issue to the American oil supply through the SPR, releasing China. people. We let the American people oil from our Strategic Petroleum Re- We should not go from buying oil know who was in charge, who is in serve, which is the only way to imme- overseas to buying solar panels from charge of this Congress. The American diately bring down prices. They, our overseas or buying wind turbines from people have said we want something Republican colleagues, said no to overseas or buying geothermal systems done. reigning in market speculation to keep from overseas. The country that put The Speaker is saying they’re going prices from skyrocketing. They said no man on the Moon should lead the way to bring a bill, but as my colleagues to protecting the American driver from in this technological innovation and have said, we have been here all week. price gouging and oil company exploi- develop this energy at home that’s a They had the whole month of August. tation. And while they stood in the broad, real energy policy. And it’s time They had 5 weeks to come up with way, the American economy suffered to pass that kind of complete really something, in addition this week. No and family budgets braced for high all-of-the-above plan now. It’s time for bill yet to vote on. And I will make one home heating costs. action now. little correction to my colleague from I think it’s time to share the views of f most of Americans when I say enough Michigan who said we will be working ENERGY SOLUTIONS for 15 days from August 1 until Janu- is enough. We need more energy and we ary 1. We are not going to be here on need to enter a new era of energy tech- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under Friday; so it’s only going to be 14 days. nology instead of staying stuck in this the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- We’re being paid to do that. The Demo- ‘‘drill first, ask questions later’’ uary 18, 2007, the gentleman from Iowa crats are in charge. It is their responsi- mindset that will not lower prices. Ac- (Mr. KING) is recognized for 60 min- bility. cording to our own Energy Information utes. My constituents find it hard to un- Agency, at the most, it’s 1.8 cents Mr. KING of Iowa. I appreciate the derstand how one person can be totally lower after 8 to 10 years, or possibly honor to be recognized to address you in control of what bills come for a vote longer. It will not make us more en- here on the floor of the House of the in the House, but that is the case. ergy secure, and it will not allow United States Representatives. I have a Speaker PELOSI, a San Francisco Dem- America to prosper, which is why I series of subjects that I am interested ocrat, is the person who controls have joined with the rest of the major- in moving forward on. whether we vote on bills on the House ity to support drilling responsibly for Before I broach those subjects that floor. And you need to let your inter- more American oil. And that means, by might be illustrated on my left, I yield ests be known to her and to your the way, making sure that the Amer- so much time as he may consume to Democratic Congressman if that’s who ican taxpayer and the Treasury get the the gentleman from east Texas, Mr. you have representing you. money from our oil. Oil under Federal LOUIE GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the leadership lands and offshore leases belongs to the Mr. GOHMERT. I thank my friend for giving us this hour. American public, to our children and from Iowa for yielding. Of course, we our grandchildren, and those royalties have had a good bit of discussion on en- f were given away by the previous Con- ergy. One of the things that has gotten b 2230 gress, which for 6 years had control of a lot of attention is this moratorium all branches of government, the White on drilling in the Outer Continental ENERGY POLICY House, both Houses of Congress, and Shelf. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a the court system. For 6 years they did It was interesting to talk to RALPH previous order of the House, the gen- nothing but give away our resources, REGULA, a Congressman here, who said tleman from New York (Mr. HALL) is our children’s and our grandchildren’s he was here in 1981 when the first mor- recognized for 5 minutes. resources without asking for fair roy- atorium got put in place. If you go Mr. HALL of New York. I must com- alty payments by the oil companies. back to President Jimmy Carter, he ment on the gentlelady’s remarks that We have provided key tax incentives signed a declaration stating that the just preceded me and describe them as for renewables, like wind and solar and Outer Continental Shelf was such an fiction. I’m sorry to have to say this high efficiency. And I beg to differ with asset for this Nation that it should be

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I felt like as a follow-up on ple and solve so much of our energy down, and we did hear the stories that this discussion about energy it was problems. What happened? Well, RALPH if you put a platform off the coast, very important for people to know the explained he was on the committee then it’s going to destroy all the fish- moratorium that will go out of exist- when there was some wealthy beach ing in the Gulf of Mexico. How terrible ence come the end of this month, un- front owners, landowners in California, that would be. Well, they put the plat- less something is passed. And I know and of course there had been an oil forms out there and, lo and behold, the there are many wealthy people in the spill around Santa Barbara in Cali- fish look at it as artificial reefs. Now, Senate, I know that there are million- fornia, a bad spill. Amazingly, people if you want to go fishing, a great place aires here in the House who are really complained about the drilling plat- to go out is to the artificial reefs, not bothered by the high gasoline forms when actually it’s the tankers which the fish look at them as, and prices. I hope that the Senators that that spilled the stuff bringing it from they are actually just the platform are wealthy will feel and understand other places. that are producing. the pain of the hardworking Americans But, anyway, wealthy, just the rich, So Carter wanted it developed expe- and not cut the legs out from under who had beach front property, said ditiously. I had tremendous problems this program that could strengthen they didn’t want to look out there and with some of the things he did, like America for the next 200 years. have to see a rig, no matter that it creating the problem in Iran when he I hope they won’t cave in because the might bring cheaper gasoline or cheap- cut the legs out from under the Shah hardworking Americans in this coun- er natural gas prices, which could and hailed the Ayatollah as a man of try need the help. This is one place we mean cheaper fertilizer, cheaper for- peace coming in, and we have been pay- can provide the help. eign products, cheaper plastics, cheap- ing the price ever since then. May God bless this country. One way er all kind of things. Never mind about But here we have a majority that it can be is if we are allowed to utilize that. The wealthy didn’t see that as a talks about being concerned about the resources with which we have al- problem. what they say is the little guy in ready been blessed. But thank you to They didn’t want to see the rigs out America, what I would say are the my friend from Iowa for yielding, and I there so they begged and pleaded Con- hardest working people here. I have yield back to him. gress to give a moratorium so there had union jobs lost in the last few Mr. KING of Iowa. I thank the gen- would be no drilling off the California years because natural gas prices were tleman from Texas, reclaiming my coast. Well, they were apparently per- too high. It isn’t helpful to keep put- time, and I thank him for this transfer suasive. They had plenty of resources ting our natural gas off limits. We are of wealth of knowledge to us, which we with which to persuade the Congress. losing jobs that good, hardworking know in the brief time we have is a As I understood, it was back in 1981. union workers should not have to lose small component of the big picture but They persuaded Congress to give them to some country where they have got it adds a piece to the puzzle of the en- a moratorium. cheaper natural gas. ergy picture that we have been paint- Well, the recitation was such that Also, ANWR, the Arctic National ing here every day in this 110th Con- then Florida said, Wait a minute. Wildlife Refuge. It is ridiculous not to gress for months and months and Those of us that are wealthy in Florida drill that small area, compared to the months, including every day, Mr. that have beach front property, we millions of acres that would not be Speaker, that the House was designed don’t want drilling that might put a touched, that area where there’s no to be adjourned for the August recess, rig out there where we could see it off wildlife, the area where there is noth- as it’s called. Republicans were here on our coast. So never mind that it might ing that would be disturbed, and this floor. Those cameras shut off, provide cheaper gasoline, cheaper prod- produce that to bring a million, mil- these microphones shut off, the lights ucts, cheaper heating oil, cheaper lion and a half barrels on line. And it shut down. We stayed here every single things like that. Never mind that. We would not take 10 to 15 years. We have working day to carry the case to thou- just don’t want to look out from our got a pipeline 74 miles away. That oil sands of the American people who we expensive piece of property and even could be in the pipeline and coming brought down here on the floor of the risk seeing a rig out there. So let’s get this way in 2 or 3 years. House of Representatives to experience a moratorium too. California got one. All of that said, we can then use the what a real debate was like, a real dis- RALPH had warned that if you give revenue, the royalties. People talk cussion was like. California this moratorium, you will about subsidies and this kind of this. rue the day you did it. Make them pay royalties. The bills b 2245 Well, the wealthy there were able to that we were pushing in the last Con- I spent six to seven days here myself, persuade no drilling off the Florida gress for 2 years had significant royal- Mr. Speaker. And although I saw a cou- coast. They got a moratorium. Before ties that would go and be split between ple of Democrats lead a tour of people you know it, State after State was able the States and the Federal Govern- down here on the floor, I saw not one to use and parlay California’s and Flor- ment. Tremendous revenue enhancers. single one engage in this debate. The ida’s moratorium into not having drill- You have could used that for the re- floor is always open for legitimate de- ing off their coast, until we get to the newable energy, you could use that to bate, and when it happens, I hope it is present day, where there’s still these shore up the hurting infrastructure of facts and not anecdotes. moratoriums off most of our coastline this country without raising taxes, and A person who delivers this thing from that could help our Nation become it would be producing new jobs. a factual and occasional anecdotal but completely energy independent and say One estimate says that if we allow always a solid philosophical perspec- adios to this tremendous transfer of the drilling in ANWR, it would imme- tive is the gentleman from Michigan, wealth that has been going over to diately start producing 250,000 jobs, and the chairman of the Policy Committee, some people that just flat don’t like us we’d have 750,000 jobs by the time it duly elected by his peers, and that is and some of whom have supported ter- was actually completed and the oil the gentleman from Michigan, Mr. rorism. So it’s important to know your started flowing this way. I think solar, THADDEUS MCCOTTER, to whom I will history. In order to know where you’re I know Boone Pickens is visionary on yield. going, know your history. the idea of wind. That can help us out. Mr. MCCOTTER. I thank the gen- So when we talk about this morato- But I think ultimately if we get the ca- tleman from Iowa, and I rise to address rium, that is what we are talking pacitors to ever store electricity, solar some of the issues that were raised by about, wealthy folks in the country could provide all our power, and this our colleague from New York, whose

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Now, if you want to support it is fact or fiction, or good or bad public mission.’’ I would submit that that is and increase the supply of American oil policy, we can debate that, if you let philosophically inconsistent. You sim- and natural gas, which we have to un- us. We can debate that and have a vote, ply can’t take a position that says I derstand is that every time you play if you let us. want our troops to know that I am be- politics, for whatever ideological rea- If you allow this representative insti- hind them, but I am not behind them if son, to have government imposed ra- tution, this beckon of democracy to all they have to go out and put themselves tioning over America’s production of the world to actually function as it is in harm’s way in an operation that I their own domestic natural resources, intended under the Constitution of the disagree with. you are going to increase the cost to United States and as it has been en- This Congress voted to authorize the the American consumers, because the trusted to us by our constituents, put President to use military force in the more you hold back, the less supply is it up for a vote. Let our voices be heard places and locations that we are. And added, and this at the very time that on behalf of our constituents, and let once that vote goes up, we are to stand global demand increasing. the majority, if not a party prevail, but together, not divided, and we are not to What you are going to want to do is the people prevail. That is all we ask. be going to foreign countries to nego- increase the supply as best you can, as But let us be clear about what the tiate with terrorists, tyrants, dic- fast as you can, so you can help Ameri- stakes are and the positions are. We tators, or any parts of any evil empire, cans who are suffering. What we have support an all-of-the-above strategy. carrying on foreign policy out of this seen out of this Democratic party is We want maximum domestic energy Congress. That is the President’s re- quite simply a fig leaf plan to do noth- production as a part of it. We do not sponsibility, by Constitution the com- ing. want minimum energy production as mander-in-chief, and he conducts our First, do-nothing bills that come to part of an ideologically zealous pursuit foreign policy, Mr. Speaker. this Congress that are purported to be of some unobtainable future in the I am fairly fresh back from a trip energy bills are in fact lethargy bills near term which is going to devastate over to some of those parts of the that are designed in fact to have a Americans’ lives now. world that have given us a significant supermajority required to pass them. I yield back. amount of grief since September 11th, Why are they designed so have a super- Mr. KING of Iowa. I thank the gen- and among those places in the world, majority to pass them? Why make it tleman from Michigan. And it occurs three stops that I will speak of tonight harder to do something that will actu- to me as I listen that not only is there are Iraq, Afghanistan and the sovereign ally help Americans at the pump? Be- no energy bill on the floor, there has state of Georgia, all in that order. cause they are designed to fail, and been only one appropriations bill come My report, Mr. Speaker, back from they are not allowed to be amended by through the House of Representatives, Iraq, is the easiest one and it is the the Members on this floor. So this is where all appropriations have to begin, most optimistic one of the three to de- part of a cynical strategy to put for- Mr. Speaker, and that appropriations liver. It was my sixth trip into Iraq ward a do-nothing bill, get nothing bill, of course, hasn’t gone anywhere in over the time that I have been in Con- done, and refuse to accept your ac- the Senate. And this is the longest pe- gress since the beginning of Operation countability as the Democratic major- riod of time in the history of the Iraqi Freedom. ity. United States of America that this Over that course of time, I have made All we are asking the Democratic Congress has failed to do its duty and it a point to get around the country so majority is to either agree with us to responsibly pass appropriation bills, that I can be in the different corners to have a bipartisan vote on the all-of- that have to begin here by Constitu- see what is going on in places like the-above energy plan or to be honest tion, do go over to the Senate, are to Kurdistan, in Mosul, up in Irbil, down with the American people. We have come back here in a conference report, in Basra, certainly Baghdad, up to heard that somehow the Republican generally speaking, unless the Senate Ramadi and over to Fallujah, a couple Party is engaged in a myth. Well, if it agrees, and go to the President for his of times to Fallujah, Taji comes to is a myth, then let us put it to the test signature. mind, Balad comes to mind, Baja on the floor with a vote. Let us see how We are here knew on the eve of the comes to mind, at some of the places many Democrats believe it is a myth. seventh anniversary of September 11th. that I have had the privilege to go to The Republican Party can pass noth- Tomorrow is the day, the seventh anni- get a sense and a feel for the things ing in this House without Democratic versary. And yet a few days later, at going on in that country. support. We believe we have it, and if midnight, September 30th, if this Con- Always briefed by our top officers, al- we don’t, we will accept the defeat, gress doesn’t act, if the responsible as- ways had an opportunity to sit down move forward and try to find a way to signments that should come from the the State Department, usually the U.S. work with the Democratic Party’s Speaker of the House aren’t brought Ambassador, usually also the corps leadership, which seems to believe that forward, Mr. Speaker, this government commander of our military there on the United States does not need to in- shuts down. That means it shuts off all the ground. I met General Petraeus for crease its own domestic energy sup- money going to the various depart- the first time in Mosul when he com- plies, but rather needs to go cold tur- ments of government. manded the 101st Airborne, that was in key into an oil-free future, which I con- I do not think that will be allowed to October of 2003. And as this situation tinue to stress is going to callously in- happen, because that would be too ob- unfolded, I met with General Sanchez, flict pain upon Americans’ pocket- vious to the American people as to General Casey, and now back to Gen- books and their quality of life. what is going on here. But there is no eral Petraeus again as the commander This is an ideological battle, but it is energy bill. There are no appropriation of our troops in Iraq. He is posed now not an ideological battle amongst the bills. to be raised up to be the commander of majority of Members of Congress. But what we have seen in this 110th CENTCOM, and we will see General Again, I could be wrong, but give us an Congress is 40 resolutions, 4–0, 40 reso- Odierno step in as the commander of up-or-down vote. lutions have been brought to the floor our military in Iraq, entirely capable, In fact, as you know, through the of the House of Representatives de- and I think an excellent and wonderful Chair to the gentleman from Iowa, as signed to unfund, underfund, or under- choice, and someone whom I have met you know, we have seen this Demo- mine our troops. We took votes on over there as well over the course of cratic Congress take a 5 week paid va- them and debated them intensively. the travels. cation while 84,000 Americans were put And none of them went anywhere, Mr. One of the things I do as well is I go out of work. The Speaker of this House Speaker, except they made their polit- into a mess hall and I meet with

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They’re in know that we have got a reference Anbar province was so dangerous that little camps out in the desert, and point and they know that they can talk a Member of Congress could not go in they’re being mopped up by the Iraqi to me in confidence and I am not going there just a little more than a year- defense forces and by our defense forces to blow their cover, so-to-speak, and and-a-half ago. as well, Mr. Speaker. they won’t get into a problem with So I reviewed that, and went and vis- Now, 11 of 18 provinces in Iraq have their commanding officer out of any- ited those areas that I could at that been turned over to the Iraqis for pri- thing that I carry on from that con- time. This was Thanksgiving, a year mary security, and that 11th one just versation. ago last Thanksgiving. And I went happened here this past week with al So I am able to cross-reference what back about seven months later, prob- Anbar province being that large area. our troops on the ground know, our ably eight months later, at the end of It’s about a third the area of Iraq and frontline troops, all the way up July last year. Things had gotten bet- the population only about 5 or 6 per- through our officer corps at all ranks, ter. When I couldn’t go to al Anbar cent of it, but it was turned over to the and on to our ambassador corps as province during Thanksgiving of 2006, I Iraqis, 11 of 18 provinces. If you look at well. And I find our military gives us could go in there in July of 2007, and I the map of those 11 of 18 provinces, straight answers, and they have been did. And I went to Ramadi and in fact there are those that are not yet turned doing a selfless job, and they believe in received a briefing there from the Ma- over to the Iraqis for security. As to their duty, and they believe in their rine general that was commanding that this incremental, one province at a mission, and they believe in this coun- region, all of al Anbar province, and time, if the security allows for that, try, and they are there because they saw the change that had taken place. those that are still under U.S. primary want to take this fight off of their chil- That is the famous Sunni awakening, security responsibility are the prov- dren and grandchildren, and also, Mr. the Sunni awakening that was trig- inces that are most likely to still have Speaker, your children and yours and gered by the surge, the surge which some al Qaeda in Iraq in them. They mine grandchildren as well. made a commitment to the military are being mopped up systematically. I agree with them and I honor and sa- operations in Iraq, that said to the At the progress rate they were going, it lute them for it, and I stand with them, Iraqis, we are here, we are with you, looks to me like a year from now it’s I support them, and I support their and we are not leaving. going to be hard to find ‘‘al Qaeda in mission, because supporting our troops When that happened, it triggered the Iraq’’ in Iraq. It looks like the progress and their mission is integral. It cannot Sunni awakening, and they decided that’s being made is very, very posi- be divided. You can’t separate the two. they would throw their lot in with the tive. So there has been significant They have to go together, Mr. Speaker. side that was going to be the winner. progress made there. Here is what I see in Iraq. The cas- They were tired of the tyranny and the Civilian casualties are off more than ualty rates, the civilian casualty rates brutality of al Qaeda, and they under- 80 percent. Sectarian violence is meas- have dropped off more than 80 percent. stood who it was and what kind of peo- ured this way by sectarian death. In I know that a year-and-a-half or so ago ple they allowed in their midst. They Baghdad since mid-April, statistically, they were picking up about 50 bodies turned the other way and decided to we don’t have a single sectarian death every morning out of the river in Bagh- join with us and provide the intel and on our charts. If you look at sectarian dad. The sectarian violence was that also lead a good number of the military deaths in Iraq as a whole, in Iraq prop- bad and the power struggle that was missions to go in and purge al Qaeda er, there have been about a handful of going on was that bad. from al Anbar province. That was hap- sectarian deaths since mid-April till The enemies that we were fighting in pening while I was there a year ago today. So, if you look at the line on the Iraq a year-and-a-half ago came down last July, Mr. Speaker. charts, that number was going on to these definitions. We were fighting, And as I looked at the map that someplace over 2,000 in a matter of a of course, al Qaeda in Iraq was our showed the mosques and what they limited period of time—and I believe it number one enemy. We were fighting al were preaching in their services in the was a week—and I hesitate to say so Quds, the Iranian influence of their mosques, there was a time when it was specifically, Mr. Speaker, but that training of terrorists and their arming about a 90 percent anti-coalition mes- number on the chart goes up over 2,000, of terrorists. They foment terror with sage. By then, by a little over a year and now it goes down to zero on sec- whomever they can. But the Iranian in- ago, it was a 60 percent neutral mes- tarian violence. fluence was there. sage, 40 percent pro-coalition message. We were fighting Muqtada al-Sadr, No mosque that they had for record You see that measure. You look at his al Mahdi military, his militia. That was preaching an anti-coalition, anti- American casualties in Iraq. There was was three. We were fighting also the American message. It was a significant a period of time for 7 weeks, from the Badr Brigades, a couple of different di- sea change that was taking place there. 1st of July until into August—I think visions, a couple of different separa- When the Iraqis, the Sunni Iraqis came that date would be about August 18— tions or identities of them. Organized around on our side, they began to purge where the combat deaths in Iraq were crime was another component. The al Qaeda from their midst. exactly the same as accidental deaths pure power struggle going on within A little more than a year later, I in Iraq for American troops. There the communities was another compo- went back, 13 months later to be more were 15 accidental deaths and 15 hostile nent of fight going on a year-and-a-half accurate, Mr. Speaker, and went into deaths that took place in Iraq on ago. some of the same regions and met with American troops. That’s the measure But I would have to say that al Qaeda the Marine unit that was there, a dif- that, I think, is the one that provides in Iraq was number one, probably al ferent commanding general there this the most optimism for me when the Quds, the Iranian influence was num- time, this time General Kelly. What I relative risk to being, let’s just say, in ber two, Muqtada al-Sadr was number saw was something that was even safer a Humvee wreck is equivalent to being three. Former Ba’athists, I didn’t men- yet, and much improved, al Anbar shot by a sniper or from having an IED tion them, was another enemy we had. province. detonated in a fatal fashion. Those Then organized crime, then the Badr measures tell me that security is going Brigades and another Shia group that b 2300 up and that violence is going down dra- was in there. In those trips, I went shopping in matically. If you look at the charts on So it comes to five, six or seven dif- downtown Ramadi. I went back to the attacks that are taking place, ferent enemies that were cluttering up Fallujah. There was a time I couldn’t whether they be on Iraqi forces or on

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That should Mr. Speaker, I can tell you without ator MCCASKILL and, I believe, Senator give us great hope, Mr. Speaker. hesitation that it is today more dan- KERRY from Massachusetts all lined up The situation in Iraq today is not yet gerous to live in Detroit than it is to and signed a letter, criticizing the no what we can call a victory, but it is, I live in Baghdad. It’s safer to be in bid contracts that Iraq had entered believe, what we’ll be able to look at to Baghdad than it is to be in Detroit. Do into. say we know what victory will look you know it’s safer to be in Detroit The result of that was they pulled like from here if we can sustain these than it is to be in Washington, DC, and those contracts down, and Iraq has low levels of violence and if we can it’s safer to be in Washington, DC than been set back another year on devel- drive them down even further. it is to be in New Orleans, and it’s oping their oil. They’re doing that at a We have to remember that Iraq is a more dangerous to be in New Orleans time of record high oil prices. So the more violent country than we are here than it is to be in Swaziland? That puts delay on this won’t just be they don’t in the United States of America as a it in perspective, Mr. Speaker. get to sell that number of barrels of oil whole. So, traditionally, they’ve had The violent death rates go like this: next year or the year after or the year more violence. They have more vio- 88 per 100,000 for Swaziland, 23 per after, but the profit that comes from lence that comes from people settling 100,000 for Iraq, 41 per 100,000 for De- high oil prices needed to be capitalized scores, from having more grudge troit. I’ve got to guess at this number on. They’re set back at least a year, matches. They don’t have the long tra- now because Washington, DC’s num- Mr. Speaker, because of interference on dition of the rule of law like we have in bers have gone down. They’ve gone the part of the United States Senate in the United States. down from, I think, about 46 per 100,000. the sovereign business of Iraq. We said I just came from a reception where I That number is a little bit lower than we didn’t go there for their oil. Why joined with Judge Juhi, who was one of that, but it’s still above Detroit’s at 41 are we sticking our nose in that busi- the judges who sat in judgment of Sad- per 100,000. New Orleans used to have a ness? They wanted to award contracts dam. Many of you will remember him— number of about 53 per 100,000. Post- to U.S. companies on a legitimate a youthful judge who was the first one Katrina, it has posted violent death basis. Because they needed to move, to retort back to Saddam when Sad- rates of up to 90 violent deaths per they didn’t have time to do bid con- dam asked him ‘‘Who appointed you?’’ 100,000. It’s more dangerous in New Or- tracts on this. They wanted to agree. Judge Juhi said, ‘‘You appointed me leans than it is in Swaziland. It’s more They had the money. They could be and I’m doing my job.’’ This man is dangerous in Detroit than it is in working today, and they’re not because now in the United States, and I’m Baghdad. It’s more dangerous in Wash- of interference on the part of the proud to have him here. I’m proud to ington, DC than it is in Baghdad. That United States Senate. welcome him here to the American puts this all into perspective for us. As But Iraq is still moving forward, and soil. I met with him in Iraq. He showed for the safety in the entire country of they’re producing more oil than ever courage. He stood up for the rule of law Iraq, aside from Baghdad averaged into before. They’re producing more elec- at great risk. I recall at least one judge that, it is still safer to live in Iraq than tricity than ever before. The oil is who was killed in this. Judge Juhi did it is to live in Oakland, California, and being refined in Baji, and it’s going up survive this and has come through it it actually has been for some time. the pipeline to the north and out to all, and that’s the kind of courage that That’s a sign of success. We see the Turkey. It’s also going down to Bagh- we’re seeing in the Iraqi people as they film on the violence that comes con- dad and on down to Basra, and it’s step up to defend their own freedom, stantly out of that part of the world, being exported off of the two platforms Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, but we ought to also pick that Iraq has out in the ocean. Their Some of these measures are this: The up on some optimism because our navy is patrolling those platforms and level of security in Iraq probably never troops have done their job. is providing security there. Progress is gets down to the level of security in The Iraqi Government is stepping up. being made. There’s a lot to be done in the United States. They’re a different They’re sitting on a $79 billion fund. I the country, but they do have an infra- kind of people than we are. There are want to call it a surplus, but it really structure, and they do have a tradition more violent countries in the world is not. They’re having difficulty allo- of education. They do sit on a lot of oil, than Iraq as well, and I could name you cating those funds and in getting them and I believe they will for a long time a few of them. One of them is Colom- out to the local political subdivisions be a moderate, Arab, prosperous ally to bia. Their numbers have gone down, and in getting them out to the Iraqi freedom in the Middle East. I’m hope- but about 3 years ago, when I com- people. They don’t have a tradition of ful that they will provide an inspira- mitted some of their violent numbers anything except central command, and tion for the Iranians to reach out and in the world to memory, they had people are reluctant to make decisions to grasp their own freedom in a fashion about 63 violent deaths per 100,000. The for fear they will be accused of fraud or that the Iraqis have today. most violent country in the world is corruption. So, if you don’t make a de- That’s Iraq, Mr. Speaker, and I’m en- Swaziland. There are 88 violent deaths cision, you cannot be accused of doing couraged by it, and I hope to be able to per 100,000 in Swaziland. That sounds very much, and that delay that’s part look back on this time and this date, horrible to think of that, that 88 out of of a culture of not having a delivery perhaps, and see that the progress con- 100,000 would be killed in a year in a system is starting to cause some prob- tinues to be made and that the Iraqi country like that. Well, in Iraq, their lems in Iraq, but it’s the right kind of people step up. violent death rate is down around 23 problem to have: $79 billion and not If there is anything that I’m con- per 100,000 today. It was 27.51 back in being able to figure out quite how to cerned about there—and there are a 2005. Today, it’s 23 per 100,000, and that spend it. number of things—it is that I’m con- includes the violent deaths across the They need to develop their oil indus- cerned that the Iraqis are a little over- country. try, Mr. Speaker. They had, I believe it confident on their current military ca- I have been accused, Mr. Speaker, of was, five oil companies and six con- pability. I believe they undervalue laying out, roughly, 3 years ago statis- tracts that they had signed to ask American communications and Amer- tics and that this was a false quote. It these oil companies to bring their tech- ican air cover and our backup fire- was not something that I’d said, but I nical expertise into Iraq and to evalu- power that we have and the logistics was accused of saying that it was more ate inventory—the wells inventory, the that support their operations, and so dangerous for my wife to live in Wash- supply of untapped energy that they that’s one of the concerns that I have ington, DC—this is in 2005—than it was have and the inventory of the pipe- about the Iraqis. to live in Baghdad. In 2005, Mr. Speak- lines, the delivery system, the proc- Another one would be, if Muqtada al- er, we didn’t have legitimate numbers essing, the entire network of oil. These Sadr and the Iranians decided to light

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Our troops get stuck in the Mr. Speaker, is, we either have to re- they have done in the past. That’s why dust. Their equipment will get stuck in write history, excuse me. We have to the attacks and the violence have the dust. It’s that deep and that soft on write new history. We have to write a dropped off substantially, but you can some occasions. new precedent for how to defeat a sov- see what victory can look like from And as the weather changes and we ereign sanctuary that had, how to de- where we are today in Iraq. go into the winter time and the rainy feat an insurgency that has a sanc- On the other hand, Mr. Speaker, Af- season, then that dust turns to mud. tuary in a sovereign country. We either ghanistan is a bit of a different story. And of course the equipment will be set new precedents for history, or we I went back to Afghanistan also a little stuck in the mud instead of the dust. are slowly learning a bitter lesson of over a week ago, and I traveled to the But the dusty covered mountains and history. And today, Mr. Speaker, I central and eastern and a little bit of the dust covered high plains going to don’t know the answer to that ques- the southern parts of the country in the West from Kandahar on over, and tion. It will be determined by history. some regions that I hadn’t been be- looking across that countryside, and I But at this point, I don’t believe that fore—Kandahar. I traveled to the cen- asked the question of the veterans who we have a lot of options for September tral and western parts of Afghanistan, were there that served for a long time and October or November, except to to areas I hadn’t been before. I had in Afghanistan, do these mountains maintain and limit the movement of been to the east into the mountainous ever turn green? Do these high plains our enemies there. There are at least regions, to the northeast where the ever turn green? Is there vegetation nine different identifiable enemies mountains go up pretty sheer, pretty that grows during a time of the season there. I went through the list of en- vertically. It’s sheer stone and rock, when it rains? And the answer is no. emies we had in Iraq a year and a half and there’s not much going on with the They just stay dust. And it’s all ago. The list of enemies is down now to where they barely exist there today. exception of a little bit of civilization dustier, except down in the narrow But over in Afghanistan they list in the valleys. There are very narrow, parts of the valleys where civilization nine enemies for me and they call them goes up and down the valley. And little, green valleys with some vegeta- the syndicate of enemies. I can’t list that’s of course where the Taliban tion. them all from memory, but they in- I traveled west in Afghanistan, over travel, up and down the valley. And clude the Taliban and al Qaeda, seven to Kandahar, and then on down to a Helman Province is one of the places other groups that are, most of them camp called Camp Bastion. The flight where we were. are camping in the mountains and Afghanistan produces 90 percent of over that way is a different topog- training there and mounting their at- the world’s poppies for opium and her- raphy. It’s mountainous, yes, but the tacks from those locations where they oin. And 90 percent of that, 80 percent mountains are simply dust all the way believe that they are safe from Amer- of Afghanistan’s poppies are raised in to the top with little valleys in be- ican attacks. They aren’t always. Helman Province. And so we were tween that are the narrowest slivers of Sometimes we find an opportunity to there. green areas where there is some popu- strike a target in that region as well. It wasn’t the poppy season. But the lation that lives, Mr. Speaker. Then But with the unrest in Pakistan, Taliban come up and they will front a there are the high plains that lay out with the new leadership that’s just in a high plains desert. If you describe crop and they’ll say, here, I’ll give you taken place there, with a presidential it in one word, Mr. Speaker, the pre- some money, half of what your crop is election coming up in this country, vailing situation in that part of Af- worth. Raise some poppies this year with resources that I believe need to be ghanistan—and it’s a vast part of Af- and I’ll be back at harvest time to pick refurbished and reinforced in Afghani- ghanistan—is dust. There’s dust every- up the crop and I’ll pay you the bal- stan, this is the time that we begin to where. There’s dust all the time. ance of what I owe you. We’ve got move on the political and the economic There’s dust in the air. There’s dust Taliban brokering, it’s kind of like a fronts until we can set the stage to settling on everything. Actually, this farm bill or a banker; here’s the front eradicate that habitat that breeds ter- is from Kabul all the way to the west money, put your crop in, and we’ll ror in Pakistan. as far as I’ve gone. come back and collect the harvest of It is a very tough nut to crack. It When you go through the market, the opium crop that you have. We’ll will be very difficult. I have said for you’ll see the watermelons and toma- pay you the balance that we owe you years that we would be in Afghanistan toes at this time of the year covered and then they go back to Pakistan. longer than we’ll be in Iraq. I said that with dust that hovers in the air. The Taliban and al Qaeda will penetrate because Afghanistan is closer to the visibility is limited. There is meat as far as they can go until they run stone age. They don’t have the oil hanging in open markets, some of it into American troops, whether it’s Ma- wealth that Iraq has. They don’t have with the wrapping on it and some of it rines in that area or Army troops in the prosperity. They have a Gross Do- hanging out in the open, collecting other areas. And there is far too much mestic Product of $7.5 billion, Mr. dust from the air. Many times, our ranging of the enemy across that coun- Speaker, and $4 billion of that Gross planes are grounded because the visi- tryside. They’ve got too much freedom Domestic Product is the poppies. bility is so low that they can’t fly on or of movement. And yes, we’re doing, I So I would submit that we should off the runway. There’s dust every- believe, as much as we can with the re- just simply remind Afghanistan, Af- where. sources that we have there. But I look ghan farmers, it’s against the law to across at Pakistan, and up until a few raise poppies, and we’re going to en- b 2315 days ago the leadership there was a force the law and it’ll be Americans And so dust is a prevailing piece. The jump ball. Yet, Pakistan is a sovereign that do it if we need to. And as I had roads, we built a ring highway around sanctuary that neighbors Afghanistan. that discussion with some of the pow- Iraq, and that is paved and that let’s I continually ask this question of our ers that be in that country, they said traffic get around the—excuse me—the military historians, Mr. Speaker. Give to me that the poppy crop in Afghani- ring highway around Afghanistan. And me an example of an insurgency that stan was the equivalent to, it was ei- that’s paved. It lets traffic go around was defeated by a foreign power, an in- ther one or two football fields wide all that current in the ring highway, but surgency that had a sovereign sanc- the way around the world. It would be the balance of the highways, with few tuary to retreat and be resupplied and impossible to go in and spray all those exceptions, are dust, dirt, not gravel retrained and rearmed from. I’ve yet to poppies. and not asphalt, not paving. They’re get an answer to that question from And I brought up the fact that we’ve dirt. any of our military historians as to sprayed almost, we’ve sprayed most of

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I think that we is the way it shows up when you check to be a master at this global hegemony could take care of the poppies in Af- it, as opposed to checking my 24-year- that he is playing today, if you’re look- ghanistan without breaking a sweat. old memory, reads this. 1984. ‘‘Russia is ing for dominance and if you’re looking Might get shot at a few times, but we playing chess while we are playing Mo- to be a super power, then you have to would end that trade in opium that is nopoly. The only question is whether play Monopoly and chess on the same funding our enemies. they will checkmate us before we bank- board, and you have to do it master This is a strange, strange war, Mr. rupt them.’’ That was the statement fully. Speaker, when we’re paying an exorbi- that Ambassador Jean Kirkpatrick So the Soviet Unions’s economy tant price for oil, and that money goes made in 1984. That’s the statement I wasn’t that strong. It’s never been that into the pockets of people that don’t think illustrates what was going on dynamic. It’s been focused on central like us very much. And some of it gets then during the Cold War, and I think planning, Mr. Speaker. But what has into the pockets of our enemy, called it’s the statement that illustrates come along for them as a windfall be- the Taliban and al Qaeda and a number what’s going on now in places like cause they happen to sit on a massive of other enemies. Georgia. amount of the world’s energy and the At the same time, the American de- Putin has expressed that the most world’s oil, and with high oil prices mand for illegal drugs is funding the tragic thing that’s happened in his life- that went up to $140 a barrel and per- poppy trade in Afghanistan, along with time was the collapse of the Soviet haps more than that, Putin saw the the European demand for illegal drugs Union. And I would say, no, that cash come rolling in, so he didn’t have as well. They’re tapping into that, and marked the end of the Cold War. It was to do a lot of smart things economi- it’s another place where we’re funding one of the best things that happened in cally. All he had to do was keep pro- our enemy. So we’re paying for both my lifetime, perhaps the best thing ducing oil, keep selling oil. And if he’s sides of the war. that’s happened globally in my life- doing that, then Russia is building up We’re watching our economy atrophy time. We see that differently. wealth and we’re watching the West, because the cost of energy is going up He saw the Soviet Union as a power the free world, we are energy con- and up and up while we’re marching that perhaps needs to be reconstructed. sumers and we have energy deficits. through this long hard slog. And so when Putin came to power, we Europe, eastern and western Europe As much optimism as I have for Iraq, saw him consolidate his power and imports a lot of their own energy, nat- as much caution as I lay out here for make his moves to negate legitimate ural gas and oil, and they import a lot Afghanistan, I relate to that concern, elections, set himself so that he could of it from Russia. In fact, Europe im- Mr. Speaker, concern for Georgia. That be the power broker in Russia and real- ports 25 percent of their oil from Rus- was the last strategic stop on the trip, ly the true power in Russia. sia, and they import 40 percent of their unless you count St. Paul, at the con- We know that President Bush has natural gas from Russia. vention. And what I see in Georgia is said that when he looked in Putin’s So if Vladimir Putin can shut down this: I believe that—— eyes he sees a friend. I understand the the oil valve going into Europe, a huge Well, first, to take it to the Georgia reasons for him saying that. But when oil pipeline coming into a free country situation, Mr. Speaker, I actually went JOHN MCCAIN said, when I look in his means cheap energy. Energy is a com- in and Googled the exact quote so I eyes I see KGB, and I think JOHN ponent of every part of our economy. could get right. Here’s my recollection, MCCAIN sees it clearly. Everything that we buy and sell and and then I’ll take it to the exact quote. Putin is a KGB chess player, Mr. trade, it takes energy to produce it, en- Back in the year I believe it was 1984 Speaker. And he saw what happened ergy to deliver it, it takes energy to re- was the year, if I remember correctly, when the wall came down in 1989 and ceive the delivery of it. It takes energy that Ambassador Jean Kirkpatrick when the Soviet Union collapsed in the to heat our homes and our factories stepped down as Ambassador to the end of 1991. He saw that the Soviet and air condition them and light them United Nations. She was appointed by Union had been bankrupted economi- and get from place to place and manu- Ronald Reagan. She served there and cally before they could checkmate the facture and produce food, clothing, served honorably and served well, and United States militarily. He saw that fiber, you name it. It all takes energy. she left a legacy, but she decided it was Jean Kirkpatrick’s analysis was cor- And a nation that has an abundance of time for her to leave that post. And so rect, and he saw it play out because we real cheap energy has a real big advan- as she stepped down as Ambassador to were better Monopoly players with our tage over NATIONS that have only a the United Nations, I remember seeing free market economy than the Soviet little bit of energy. The high priced en- an article, tiny little article on page 3 Union was chess players. We got there ergy. And nations with costly energy or 4 of the newspaper that I was read- first because our economy was strong- cannot compete with other nations ing at the time where it quoted her as er. We upped the ante. that have cheap energy, all other saying that was going on in the Cold And by the way, we played chess on things being equal. War was the equivalent of playing the board too. We had a military esca- chess and Monopoly on the same board. lation. We built up our military, built b 2330 The contest between the super power of up our troops. Ronald Reagan called And so Putin knows that sitting the United States, super power of the for it. And he walked out of the nuclear there looking at this global chessboard, Soviet Union, playing chess and Mo- missile negotiations in Reykjavik, Ice- this global Monopoly board, simulta- nopoly on the same board. And the land he walked away from it, to the neously sitting on top of this oil, that question was, would we bankrupt the gasps of his own staff. And he went into if he can decide whether oil goes east Soviet Union economically before they Berlin and he said, Mr. Gorbachev, or west, he can determine whether checkmate us militarily. Now that open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear going to the east, whether China’s statement, and she sadly passed away a down this wall; and down it came. And economy prospers, or maybe the same couple of years ago, Jean Kirkpatrick. down came the iron curtain, crashing oil going to the West, whether Eastern But that statement was made by my with it. And the end of the Cold War on or Western Europe’s economy prospers. recollection, 24 years ago. And it has the last day of 1991 marked the end of He built a Trans-Siberian pipeline to often framed the viewpoint with which the Soviet Union. go to China to take Russian oil to I look at this super power contest But Vladimir Putin has been putting China. And in Kazakhstan, they built that’s going on. And it really framed it this back together again. Humpty an oil pipeline to take some of the when I watched the Berlin Wall begin Dumpty fell off the wall and had a massive amounts of oil they have in to come down on November 9 of 1989, great fall. But Humpty Dumpty is Kazakhstan into China. But from the and it framed it more when the Soviet being put back together again by same locations, Kazakhstan and that Union imploded, and I’ll pick the date Vladimir Putin. region—and here I have in this chart,

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:20 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00056 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.125 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE September 10, 2008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H8015 Mr. Speaker, I think I have got some of They could decide whether the free ADJOURNMENT these countries, here is Kazakhstan— world’s economy would atrophy or Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Speaker, I there’s a significant amount of oil in whether it would prosper. move that the House do now adjourn. this region here. Uzbekistan less oil, If you’re in a position like that and The motion was agreed to; accord- Turkmenistan even less. But this you’ve had the lesson that Putin has ingly (at 11 o’clock and 35 minutes amount of oil in this region needs to had, he lost the Monopoly game and he p.m.), under its previous order, the come through. checkmated his chess game, because House adjourned until tomorrow, There’s a pipeline across the Caspian their economy collapsed. He’s learned Thursday, September 11, 2008, at 11 Sea, and then it comes from here into the lesson. Now he’s playing Monopoly a.m. Georgia. This little country here, 4.6 and he’s playing chess, and he’s sitting f million people, is Georgia. Tbilisi is on this square in Georgia. He’s sitting where I was about a week ago, the cap- on a massive amount of oil. He has a EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, ital of Georgia. This square right here diabolical plan, and we’re Americans ETC. is the square through which the pipe- sitting here naively arguing that well, Under clause 8 of rule XII, executive lines across the Caspian Sea, the cen- we don’t want to develop any American communications were taken from the tral Asian energy, oil and gas, if it’s energy. Speaker’s table and referred as follows: going to go to the west to get out Mr. Speaker, we must open up all 8183. A letter from the Captain, U.S. Navy through the Straits there at Istanbul American energy now. Every form. It’s Deputy Chief of Legislative Affairs, Depart- and out into the Mediterranean and imperative. Whether we’re going to be ment of Defense, transmitting notice of the out into western Europe, it has to a superpower 10 or 20 years from now completion of a public-private competition come through Georgia. Putin knows for administrative support services, pursuant depends on the decisions we make in to 10 U.S.C. 2462(a); to the Committee on that. this Congress today. All energy all the Armed Services. He sits up here and in control of the time. Drill ANWR, drill the Outer Con- 8184. A letter from the Principal Deputy, Russian region looking at this oil that tinental Shelf, develop the oil from the Department of Defense, transmitting author- he has next door watching how it can oil shale areas in the West, open up all ization of Daryl W. Burke, Scott M. Hanson be controlled, and it must come of our natural gas. Let’s do coal, let’s and Jeffrey G. Lofgren to wear the author- through Georgia. When I met with the do nuclear, let’s do ethanol, let’s do ized insignia of the grade of brigadier gen- Georgians, they said to me, ‘‘We al- biodiesel, let’s do wind, let’s do solar, eral, pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 777; to the Com- mittee on Armed Services. ways knew he was going to do this. We all forms of American energy. 8185. A letter from the Acting Assistant always knew the Russians would come Let’s save our freedom, Mr. Speaker. Secretary Legislative Affairs, Department of in and occupy our country,’’ because f State, transmitting a report concerning an this square, Georgia, is the square on amendment to Part 121 of the International the chessboard where he can control LEAVE OF ABSENCE Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), promul- whether this oil in this region comes By unanimous consent, leave of ab- gated pursuant to the Arms Export Control into Europe or whether it goes on to sence was granted to: Act, 22 U.S.C. 2778 et seq.; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Mr. SENSENBRENNER (at the request the east on over to China, just off the 8186. A letter from the Under Secretary of chart here. of Mr. BOEHNER) for today until 2:30 Defense, Department of Defense, transmit- A pipeline exists to go from p.m. on account of his primary elec- ting the Department’s Year 2007 Inventory of Kazakhstan to China. There’s a pipe- tion. Commercial Activities, as required by the line that exists from Russia that goes f Federal Activities Reform Act of 1997, Pub. on into Europe, several of them actu- L. 105-270; to the Committee on Oversight SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED ally, and a pipeline from Russia that and Government Reform. goes down into China, Mr. Speaker. By unanimous consent, permission to 8187. A letter from the Chairman, U.S. address the House, following the legis- Merit Systems Protection Board, transmit- This is where the valve is right here. ting the Board’s report entitled, ‘‘Federal That’s where he can turn it on and he lative program and any special orders Appointment Authorities: Cutting through can turn it off, and he can decide if it heretofore entered, was granted to: the Confusion,’’ pursuant to 5 U.S.C. goes east or if it goes west. If it goes to (The following Members (at the re- 1204(a)(3); to the Committee on Oversight the east to China, their economy pros- quest of Mr. MCDERMOTT) to revise and and Government Reform. pers; if it shuts off the oil going to the extend their remarks and include ex- 8188. A letter from the Principal Deputy West, these economies in Europe atro- traneous material:) Assistant Attorney General, Department of Justice, transmitting the 2006 Annual Report phy. Mr. MCDERMOTT, for 5 minutes, of the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), If he can team up down here with today. pursuant to 42 U.S.C. 3766(c) and 3789e; to the Ahmadinejad and the Straits of Mr. PALLONE, for 5 minutes, today. Committee on the Judiciary. Hormuz, and they can threaten to—or Ms. WOOLSEY, for 5 minutes, today. 8189. A letter from the Principal Deputy close the Straits of Hormuz, they can Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, for 5 minutes, Assistant Attorney General, Department of also decide whether oil goes to the today. Justice, transmitting the Department’s West, the free world, the Western Mr. ELLISON, for 5 minutes, today. quarterly report from the Office of Privacy Hemisphere, or whether it is stuck up Mr. DEFAZIO, for 5 minutes, today. and Civil Liberties as required by section 803 of the Implementing Recommendations of Mr. KAGEN, for 5 minutes, today. in here in the Middle Eastern region. the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007, Pub. L. 110- That is a powerful position to be in. (The following Members (at the re- 53, 121 Stat. 266, 360; to the Committee on the If he continues to build this trium- quest of Mr. POE) to revise and extend Judiciary. virate—which is, I believe, Putin, their remarks and include extraneous 8190. A letter from the Program Analyst, Ahmadinejad, and Hugo Chavez— material:) Department of Agriculture, transmitting the Chavez’s oil, he can shut that off as Mr. LATTA, for 5 minutes, today. Department’s final rule — Airworthiness well. He can decide whether to sell it or Mr. POE, for 5 minutes, September 17. Standards; Engine Bird Ingestion [Docket No.: FAA-2006-25375; Amendment No. 33-23] not and who’s going to get it. Mr. JONES, for 5 minutes, September So if you put those three guys at the 17. (RIN: 2120-AI73) received August 19, 2008, pur- suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- same table, Putin, Ahmadinejad and Mr. KELLER of Florida, for 5 minutes, mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- Hugo Chavez, they would have con- today. ture. trol—presuming the Straits of Hormuz Mr. TIM MURPHY of Pennsylvania, for 8191. A letter from the Attorney Advisor could be shut down by the Iranians or 5 minutes, today. Regulations and Administrative Law United with Russian help—they would have Mr. WOLF, for 5 minutes, September States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of control of more than 50 percent of the 11 and 12. Homeland Security, transmitting the De- world’s export oil supply. They could (The following Member (at his re- partment’s final rule — Safety Zone; Maine; Sector Northern New England August Swim decide oil prices for the world: running quest) to revise and extend his remarks Events. [Docket No. USCG-2008-0695] (RIN: them up, allowing them to go down and include extraneous material:) 1625-AA00) received August 29, 2008, pursuant and/or they could decide whether that Mr. HALL of New York, for 5 minutes, to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on oil actually goes to those economies. today. Transportation and Infrastructure.

VerDate Aug 31 2005 04:20 Sep 11, 2008 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00057 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K10SE7.127 H10SEPT1 jbell on PROD1PC69 with HOUSE H8016 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 10, 2008 8192. A letter from the Attorney Advisor Homeland Security, transmitting the De- pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- Regulations and Administrative Law United partment’s final rule — Special Local Regu- mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of lation; Chris Craft Silver Cup Regatta, St. ture. Homeland Security, transmitting the De- Clair River, Algonac, MI [Docket No. USCG- 8209. A letter from the Program Analyst, partment’s final rule — Safety Zone, 2008 2008-0763] (RIN: 1625-AA00) received August Department of Transportation, transmitting Personal Watercraft Challenge, Atlantic 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Ocean, Fort Lauderdale, FL [Docket No. the Committee on Transportation and Infra- Directives; Boeing Model 727-200 Series Air- USCG-2008-0433] (RIN: 1625-AA00) received structure. planes Equipped with an Auxiliary Fuel August 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 8201. A letter from the Attorney Advisor Tank System Installed in Accordance with 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Regulations and Administrative Law United Supplemental Type Certificate SA1350NM tation and Infrastructure. States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of [Docket No. FAA-2008-0013; Directorate Iden- 8193. A letter from the Attorney Advisor Homeland Security, transmitting the De- tifier 2007-NM-230-AD; Amendment 39-15448; Regulations and Administrative Law United partment’s final rule — Safety Zone; Fire- AD 2008-07-07] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received Au- States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of works, Beverly, MA [Docket No. USCG-2008- gust 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Homeland Security, transmitting the De- 0349] (RIN: 1625-AA00) received August 29, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- partment’s final rule — Regulated Naviga- 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the tation and Infrastructure. tion Area and Safety Zone, Chicago Sanitary Committee on Transportation and Infra- 8210. A letter from the Program Analyst, and Ship Canal, Romeoville, IL [Docket No. structure. Department of Transportation, transmitting USCG-2008-0470] (RIN: 1625-AA11) received 8202. A letter from the Attorney Advisor the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness August 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Regulations and Administrative Law United Directives; Boeing Model 747-100, 747-100B, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of 747-100B SUD, 747-200B, 747-200C, 747-200F, 747- tation and Infrastructure. Homeland Security, transmitting the De- 300, 747-400, 747-400D, 747-400F, 747SR, and 8194. A letter from the Attorney Advisor partment’s final rule — Safety Zones: An- 747SP Series Airplanes [Docket No. FAA- Regulations and Administrative Law United nual Events Requiring Safety Zones in the 2008-0412; Directorate Identifier 2007-NM-290- States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of Captain of the Port Detroit Zone [USCG- AD; Amendment 39-15327; AD 90-25-05 R1] Homeland Security, transmitting the De- 2008-0218] (RIN: 1625-AA00) received August (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, partment’s final rule — Safety Zone; Carly’s 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- Crossing, Lake Erie, Buffalo, NY [Docket No. the Committee on Transportation and Infra- mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- USCG-2008-0739] (RIN: 1625-AA00) received structure. ture. August 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 8203. A letter from the Attorney Advisor 8211. A letter from the Program Analyst, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Regulations and Administrative Law United Department of Transportation, transmitting tation and Infrastructure. States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness 8195. A letter from the Attorney Advisor Homeland Security, transmitting the De- Directives; Boeing Model 757 Airplanes Regulations and Administrative Law United partment’s final rule — Temporary Safety Equipped with Rolls Royce RB211-535E En- States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of Zone: LST-1166 Safety Zone, Southeastern gines [Docket No. FAA-2007-0225; Directorate Homeland Security, transmitting the De- Tip of Lord Island, Columbia River, Rainier, Identifier 2007-NM-210-AD; Amendment 39- partment’s final rule — Safety Zone; Seafair Oregon. [Docket No. USCG-2008-0755] (RIN: 15583; AD 2008-13-20] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received Fireworks, Lake Washington, Washington 1625-AA00) received August 29, 2008, pursuant August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. [Docket No. USCG-2008-0732] (RIN: 1625-AA00) to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- received August 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Transportation and Infrastructure. tation and Infrastructure. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- 8204. A letter from the Attorney Advisor 8212. A letter from the Program Analyst, tation and Infrastructure. Regulations and Administrative Law United Department of Transportation, transmitting 8196. A letter from the Attorney Advisor States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Regulations and Administrative Law United Homeland Security, transmitting the De- Directives; Boeing Model 747-400, 747-400D, States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of partment’s final rule — Safety Zone; Amer- and 747-400f Series Airplanes [Docket No. Homeland Security, transmitting the De- ican Music Festival; Chesapeake Bay, Vir- FAA-2006-26110; Directorate Identifier 2006- partment’s final rule — Temporary Safety ginia Beach, VA [USCG-2008-0759] (RIN: 1625- NM-112-AD; Amendment 39-15585; AD 2008-13- Zone: Astoria Regatta Assoc. Display, AA00) received August 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 22] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, Astoria, Oregon. [Docket No. USCG-2008-0726] U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- (RIN: 1625-AA00) received August 29, 2008, Transportation and Infrastructure. mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- 8205. A letter from the Administrator, Bu- ture. mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- reau of Transportation Statistics, Depart- 8213. A letter from the Program Analyst, ture. ment of Transportation, transmitting the Department of Transportation, transmitting 8197. A letter from the Attorney Advisor Transportation Statistics Annual Report the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Regulations and Administrative Law United 2007, pursuant to 49 U.S.C. 111(1); to the Com- Directives; ATR Model ATR42-200, -300, -320, States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- -500 Airplanes; and Model ATR72-101, -201, Homeland Security, transmitting the De- ture. -102, -202, -211, -212, and -212A Airplanes partment’s final rule — Temporary Safety 8206. A letter from the Program Analyst, [Docket No. FAA-2008-0293; Directorate Iden- Zone: Red Bull Flugtag, Portland, Oregon. Department of Transportation, transmitting tifier 2007-NM-287-AD; Amendment 39-15582; [Docket No. USCG-2008-0725] (RIN: 1625-AA00) the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness AD 2008-13-19] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received Au- received August 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Directives; Construcciones Aeronauticas gust 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- S.A. (CASA), Model C-212 Airplanes [Docket 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- tation and Infrastructure. No. FAA-2007-0372; Directorate Identifier tation and Infrastructure. 8198. A letter from the Attorney Advisor 2007-NM-164-AD; Amendment 39-15425; AD 8214. A letter from the Program Analyst, Regulations and Administrative Law United 2008-06-13] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August Department of Transportation, transmitting States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Homeland Security, transmitting the De- the Committee on Transportation and Infra- Directives; Hartzell Propeller Inc. ( )HC- partment’s final rule — Special Local Regu- structure. ( )(2,3)Y(K,R)-2 Two-and Three-Bladed Com- lations for Marine Events; Patapsco River, 8207. A letter from the Program Analyst, pact Series Propellers [Docket No. FAA-2008- Inner Harbor, Baltimore, MD [Docket No. Department of Transportation, transmitting 0254; Directorate Identifier 2008-NE-06-AD; USCG-2008-0392] (RIN: 1625-AA08) received the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Amendment 39-15591; AD 2008-13-28] (RIN: August 29, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Directives; McDonnell Douglas Model MD-11, 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, pursuant 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- MD-11F, DC-10-30 and DC-10-30F (KC-10A and to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on tation and Infrastructure. KDC-10), DC-10-40, DC-10-40F, and MD-10-30F Transportation and Infrastructure. 8199. A letter from the Attorney Advisor Airplanes [Docket No. FAA-2007-28351; Direc- 8215. A letter from the Program Analyst, Regulations and Administrative Law United torate Identifier 2007-NM-074-AD; Amend- Department of Transportation, transmitting States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of ment 39-15192; AD 2007-19-02] (RIN: 2120-AA64) the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Homeland Security, transmitting the De- received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Directives; Airbus Model A330 and A340 Air- partment’s final rule — Special Local Regu- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- planes [Docket No. FAA-2007-0347; Direc- lation; Cape Fear Dragon Boat Festival; Wil- tation and Infrastructure. torate Identifier 2007-NM-253-AD; Amend- mington, NC [Docket No. USCG-2008-0789] 8208. A letter from the Program Analyst, ment 39-15437; AD 2008-06-25] (RIN: 2120-AA64) (RIN: 1625-AA08) received August 29, 2008, Department of Transportation, transmitting received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- Directives; Agusta S.p.A. Model A109C, tation and Infrastructure. ture. A109E, and A109K2 Helicopters [Docket No. 8216. A letter from the Program Analyst, 8200. A letter from the Attorney Advisor FAA-2008-0524; Directorate Identifier 2007- Department of Transportation, transmitting Regulations and Administrative Law United SW-77-AD; Amendment 39-15519; AD 2007-26- the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of 52] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, Directives; Boeing Model 777-200, -200LR,

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Department of Transportation, transmitting ational Performance Standards (ETOPS) (P&WC) Models PW305A and PW305B Tur- the Department’s final rule — Safety Zone; [Docket No. FAA-2008-0673; Directorate Iden- bofan Engines [Docket No. FAA-2008-0664; Di- Bollotta & Associates USS Midway Fire- tifier 2008-NM-117-AD; Amendment 39-15606; rectorate Identifier 2008-NE-04-AD; Amend- works Display; San Diego Harbor, San Diego, AD 2008-14-11] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received Au- ment 39-15579; AD 2008-13-16] (RIN: 2120-AA64) California [Docket No. USCG-2008-0720] (RIN: gust 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 1625-AA00) received August 29, 2008, pursuant 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on tation and Infrastructure. tation and Infrastructure. Transportation and Infrastructure. 8217. A letter from the Program Analyst, 8225. A letter from the Program Analyst, 8233. A letter from the Program Analyst, Department of Transportation, transmitting Department of Transportation, transmitting Department of Transportation, transmitting the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness the Department’s final rule — IFR Altitudes; Directives; Airbus Model A330 Airplanes and Directives; Empresa Brasiliera de Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket No. Model A340-200 and -300 Series Airplanes Aeronautica S.A. (EMBRAER) Model EMB- 30615; Amdt. No. 475] received August 19, 2008, [Docket No. FAA-2007-0266; Directorate Iden- 135ER, -135KE, -135KL, and -135LR Airplanes, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- tifier 2007-NM-170-AD; Amendment 39-15576; and Model EMB-145, -145ER, -145MR, -145LR, mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- AD 2008-13-13] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received Au- -145XR, -145MP, and -145EP Airplanes [Dock- ture. gust 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. et No. FAA-2008-0182; Directorate Identifier 8234. A letter from the Program Analyst, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- 2007-NM-262-AD; Amendment 39-15577; AD Department of Transportation, transmitting tation and Infrastructure. 2008-13-14] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August the Department’s final rule — Standard In- 8218. A letter from the Program Analyst, 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to strument Approach Procedures, and Takeoff Department of Transportation, transmitting the Committee on Transportation and Infra- Minimums and Obstacle Departure Proce- the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness structure. dures; Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket Directives; Dassault Model Mystere-Falcon 8226. A letter from the Program Analyst, No. 30616; Amdt. No 3276] received August 19, 900 and Falcon 900EX Airplanes [Docket No. Department of Transportation, transmitting 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the FAA-2008-0365; Directorate Identifier 2007- the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Committee on Transportation and Infra- NM-274-AD; Amendment 39-15563; AD 2008-12- Directives; Empresa Brasileira de structure. 19] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, Aeronautica S.A. (EMBRAER) Model EMB- 8235. A letter from the Program Analyst, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- 135BJ Airplanes [Docket No. FAA-2008-0194; Department of Transportation, transmitting mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- Directorate Identifier 2007-NM-263-AD; the Department’s final rule — Establishment ture. Amendment 39-15578; AD 2008-13-15] (RIN: of Low Altitude Area Navigation Route (T- 8219. A letter from the Program Analyst, 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, pursuant Route); Southwest Oregon [Docket No. FAA- Department of Transportation, transmitting to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 2008-0038; Airspace Docket No. 07-ANM-16] re- the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Transportation and Infrastructure. ceived August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 8227. A letter from the Program Analyst, Directives; Dassault Model Mystere-Falcom 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Department of Transportation, transmitting 20-C5, 20-D5, and 20-E5 Airplanes [Docket No. tation and Infrastructure. the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness FAA-2008-0296; Directorate Identifier 2007- 8236. A letter from the Program Analyst, Directives; Bombardier Model DHC-8-400 Se- NM-307-AD; Amendment 39-15567; AD 2008-13- Department of Transportation, transmitting ries Airplanes [Docket No. FAA-2008-0360; Di- 04] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, the Department’s final rule — Establishment rectorate Identifier 2007-NM-368-AD; Amend- pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- of Class E Airspace; Lewisburg, PA [Docket ment 39-15570; AD 2008-13-07] (RIN: 2120-AA64) mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- No. FAA-2007-0276; Airspace Docket No. 07- received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. ture. AEA-16] received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- 8220. A letter from the Program Analyst, 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Department of Transportation, transmitting tation and Infrastructure. 8228. A letter from the Program Analyst, Transportation and Infrastructure. the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Department of Transportation, transmitting 8237. A letter from the Program Analyst, Directives; Lindstrand Balloons Ltd. Models the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Department of Transportation, transmitting 42A, 56A, 60A, 69A, 77A, 90A, 105A, 120A, 150A, Directives; Hawker Beechcraft Corporation the Department’s final rule — Establishment 180A, 210A, 240A, 260A, and 310A Balloons (Type Certificates No. 3A15, No. 3A16, No. of Class E Airspace; Lady Lake, FL [Docket [Docket No. FAA-2008-0446; Directorate Iden- A23CE, and No. A30CE previously held by No. FAA-2008-0072; Airspace Docket No. 08- tifier 2008-CE-021-AD; Amendment 39-15568; Raytheon Aircraft Company) F33 Series and ASO-03] received August 19, 2008, pursuant to AD 2008-13-05] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received Au- Models G33, V35B, A36, A36TC, B36TC, 95-B55, 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on gust 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. D55, E55, A56TC, 58, 58P, 58TC, G58, and 77 Transportation and Infrastructure. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Airplanes [Docket No. FAA-2007-28434; Direc- 8238. A letter from the Program Analyst, tation and Infrastructure. torate Identifier 2007-CE-053-AD; Amendment Department of Transportation, transmitting 8221. A letter from the Program Analyst, 39-15580; AD 2008-13-17] (RIN: 2120-AA64) re- the Department’s final rule — Establishment Department of Transportation, transmitting ceived August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. of Class E Airspace; Cranberry Township, the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- PA. [Docket No. FAA-2007-0278; Airspace Directives; BAE Systems (Operations) Lim- tation and Infrastructure. Docket No. 07-AEA-18] received August 19, ited (Jetstream) Model 4101 Airplanes [Dock- 8229. A letter from the Program Analyst, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the et No. FAA-2008-0275; Directorate Identifier Department of Transportation, transmitting Committee on Transportation and Infra- 2007-NM-335-AD; Amendment 39-15565; AD the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness structure. 2008-13-02] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August Directives; Dornier Model 328-100 Airplanes 8239. A letter from the Program Analyst, 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to [Docket No. FAA-2008-0297; Directorate Iden- Department of Transportation, transmitting the Committee on Transportation and Infra- tifier 2007-NM-330-AD; Amendment 39-15586; the Department’s final rule — Modification structure. AD 2008-13-23] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received Au- of Class D Airspace; Brunswick, ME [Docket 8222. A letter from the Program Analyst, gust 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. No. FAA-2008-0203; Airspace Docket No. 08- Department of Transportation, transmitting 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- ANE-99] received August 19, 2008, pursuant to the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness tation and Infrastructure. 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Directives; Boeing Model 747-400, 747-400D, 8230. A letter from the Program Analyst, Transportation and Infrastructure. and 747-400F Series Airplanes [Docket No. Department of Transportation, transmitting 8240. A letter from the Program Analyst, FAA-2008-0273; Directorate Identifier 2007- the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness Department of Transportation, transmitting NM-369-AD; Amendment 39-15566; AD 2008-13- Directives; Bombardier Model DHC-8-400 Se- the Department’s final rule — Establishment 03] (RIN: 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, ries Airplanes [Docket No. FAA-2008-0178; Di- of Class E Airspace; Marienville, PA. [Dock- pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- rectorate Identifier 2007-NM-366-AD; Amend- et No. FAA-2007-0162; Airspace Docket No. 07- mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- ment 39-15571; AD 2008-13-08] (RIN: 2120-AA64) AEA-13] received August 19, 2008, pursuant to ture. received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 8223. A letter from the Program Analyst, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Transportation and Infrastructure. Department of Transportation, transmitting tation and Infrastructure. 8241. A letter from the Program Analyst, the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness 8231. A letter from the Program Analyst, Department of Transportation, transmitting Directives; Dassault Model Falcon 7X Air- Department of Transportation, transmitting the Department’s final rule — Establishment planes [Docket No. FAA-2008-0641; Direc- the Department’s final rule — Airworthiness of Class E Airspace; Sunbury, PA [Docket torate Identifier 2008-NM-105-AD; Amend- Directives; Boeing Model 767-200, -300, and No. FAA-2008-0162; Airspace Docket No. 08- ment 39-15573; AD 2008-13-10] (RIN: 2120-AA64) -400ER Series Airplanes [Docket No. FAA- AEA-15] received August 19, 2008, pursuant to received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 2008-0012; Directorate Identifier 2007-NM-204- 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- AD; Amendment 39-15584; AD 2008-13-21] (RIN: Transportation and Infrastructure. tation and Infrastructure. 2120-AA64) received August 19, 2008, pursuant 8242. A letter from the Program Analyst, 8224. A letter from the Program Analyst, to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Department of Transportation, transmitting Department of Transportation, transmitting Transportation and Infrastructure. the Department’s final rule — Establishment

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A letter from the Program Analyst, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- tion to the Committee on Rules, for a period Department of Transportation, transmitting tation and Infrastructure. to be subsequently determined by the Speak- the Department’s final rule — Amendment of 8253. A letter from the Program Analyst, er, in each case for consideration of such pro- Class E Airspace; Danville, KY [Docket No. Department of Transportation, transmitting visions as fall within the jurisdiction of the FAA-2007-0246; Airspace Docket No. 07-ASO- the Department’s final rule — Standard In- committee concerned. 26] received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 strument Procedures, and Takeoff Mini- By Mr. BISHOP of Georgia (for himself, U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on mums and Obstacle Departure Procedures; Mr. WESTMORELAND, Mr. JOHNSON of Transportation and Infrastructure. Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket No. Georgia, Mr. DEAL of Georgia, Mr. 8244. A letter from the Attorney Advisor 30617; Amdt. No. 3277] received August 19, LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. BROUN of Geor- Regulations and Administrative Law United 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the gia, Mr. SCOTT of Georgia, Mr. LIN- States Coast Guard, DHS, Department of Committee on Transportation and Infra- DER, Mr. BARROW, Mr. GINGREY, Mr. Transportation, transmitting the Depart- structure. MARSHALL, Mr. PRICE of Georgia, and 8254. A letter from the Program Analyst, ment’s final rule — Safety Zone; 70th Anni- Mr. KINGSTON): versary Celebration for the Thousand Island Department of Transportation, transmitting H.R. 6859. A bill to designate the facility of International Bridge, St. Lawrence River, the Department’s final rule — Standard In- the United States Postal Service located at Alexandria Bay, NY. [Docket No. USCG-2008- strument Approach Procedures, and Takeoff 1501 South Slappey Boulevard in Albany, 0742] (RIN: 1625-AA00) received August 29, Minimums and Obstacle Departure Proce- Georgia, as the ‘‘Dr. Walter Carl Gordon, Jr. 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the dures; Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket Post Office Building’’; to the Committee on Committee on Transportation and Infra- No. 30613; Amdt. No. 3274] received August 19, Oversight and Government Reform. structure. 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the By Mrs. BLACKBURN: 8245. A letter from the Program Analyst, Committee on Transportation and Infra- H.R. 6860. A bill to exempt exploration, de- Department of Transportation, transmitting structure. velopment, and production of oil and natural 8255. A letter from the Program Analyst, the Department’s final rule — IFR Altitudes; gas under leases on Federal lands from State Department of Transportation, transmitting Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket No. environmental and pollution control laws, the Department’s final rule — Establishment 30582; Amdt. No. 471] received August 19, 2008, and for other purposes; to the Committee on of Class E Airspace; Hinton, OK [Docket No. pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- Natural Resources, and in addition to the FAA-2008-0328; Airspace Docket No. 08-ASW- mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- Committee on Oversight and Government 4] received August 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 ture. Reform, for a period to be subsequently de- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 8246. A letter from the Program Analyst, termined by the Speaker, in each case for Department of Transportation, transmitting Transportation and Infrastructure. 8256. A letter from the Program Analyst, consideration of such provisions as fall with- the Department’s final rule — Standard In- Department of Transportation, transmitting in the jurisdiction of the committee con- strument Approach Procedures, and Takeoff the Department’s final rule — Standard In- cerned. Minimums and Obstacle Departure Proce- strument Approach Procedures, and Takeoff By Mr. BRALEY of Iowa: dures; Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket Minimums and Obstacle Departure Proce- H.R. 6861. A bill to amend the Fair Labor No. 30618; Amdt. No 3278] received August 19, dures; Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket Standards Act of 1938 to increase the penalty 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the No. 30619 ; Amdt. No.3279] received August 19, for certain child labor violations; to the Committee on Transportation and Infra- 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Education and Labor. structure. Committee on Transportation and Infra- By Mr. BROWN of South Carolina: 8247. A letter from the Program Analyst, structure. H.R. 6862. A bill to reauthorize the Marine Department of Transportation, transmitting Turtle Conservation Act of 2004; to the Com- the Department’s final rule — Standard In- f mittee on Natural Resources. strument Approach Procedures, and Takeoff PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS By Mr. HENSARLING: Minimums and Obstacle Departure Proce- H.R. 6863. A bill to prevent Government dures; Miscellaneous Amendments [Docket Under clause 2 of rule XII, public shutdowns; to the Committee on Appropria- No. 30614; Amdt. No. 3275] received August 19, bills and resolutions were introduced tions. 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the and severally referred, as follows: By Mr. KING of Iowa (for himself, Mr. Committee on Transportation and Infra- By Mr. LEWIS of Georgia (for himself WALBERG, Mr. FORTENBERRY, Mr. structure. and Mr. RAMSTAD): AKIN, Ms. FOXX, Mr. GARRETT of New 8248. A letter from the Program Analyst, H.R. 6854. A bill to amend the Internal Rev- Jersey, and Mr. BACHUS): Department of Transportation, transmitting enue Code of 1986 to allow the Secretary of H.R. 6864. A bill to prohibit golden para- the Department’s final rule — Standard In- the Treasury to establish the standard mile- chute payments for former executives and di- strument Approach Procedures; Miscella- age rate for use of a passenger automobile rectors of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; to neous Amendments [Docket No. 30592; Amdt. for purposes of the charitable contributions the Committee on Financial Services. No. 3255] received August 19, 2008, pursuant deduction and to exclude charitable mileage By Mr. KIRK: to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on reimbursements from gross income; to the H.R. 6865. A bill to award a congressional Transportation and Infrastructure. Committee on Ways and Means. gold medal to Joseph Barnett Kirsner, M.D., 8249. A letter from the Program Analyst, By Mr. SMITH of Texas (for himself, Ph.D., in recognition of his many out- Department of Transportation, transmitting Mr. CONYERS, Mr. BERMAN, and Mr. standing contributions to the Nation; to the the Department’s final rule — Standard In- COBLE): Committee on Financial Services. strument Approach Procedures; Miscella- H.R. 6855. A bill to extend the authority for By Mr. KUHL of New York: neous Amendments [Docket No. 30581; Amdt. the United States Supreme Court Police to H.R. 6866. A bill to direct the Secretary of No. 3246] received August 19, 2008, pursuant protect court officials off the Supreme Court the Interior to conduct a special resource to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on grounds, and for other purposes; to the Com- study to evaluate the significance of the Transportation and Infrastructure. mittee on the Judiciary. Newtown Battlefield located in Chemung 8250. A letter from the Program Analyst, By Mr. YARMUTH (for himself and Mr. County, New York, and the suitability and Department of Transportation, transmitting LAHOOD): feasibility of its inclusion in the National the Department’s final rule — Standard In- H.R. 6856. A bill to amend the Elementary Parks System, and for other purposes; to the strument Approach Procedures; Miscella- and Secondary Education Act of 1965 and the Committee on Natural Resources. neous Amendments [Docket No. 30584; Amdt. Workforce Investment Act of 1998 to award By Mr. MCDERMOTT (for himself and No. 3248] received August 19, 2008, pursuant grants to prepare individuals for the 21st Mr. RANGEL): to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on century workplace and to increase America’s H.R. 6867. A bill to provide for additional Transportation and Infrastructure. global competitiveness, and for other pur- emergency unemployment compensation; to 8251. A letter from the Program Analyst, poses; to the Committee on Education and the Committee on Ways and Means. Department of Transportation, transmitting Labor. By Mr. ROSKAM: the Department’s final rule — Damage Toler- By Mr. CANNON: H.R. 6868. A bill to provide for the develop- ance Data for Repairs and Alterations [Dock- H.R. 6857. A bill to amend section 203(a) of ment of advanced and alternative energy and et No. FAA-2005-21693; Amendment Nos. 26-1, the Clean Air Act to permit the conversion increased domestic energy production to 121-337, 129-44] (RIN: 2120-AI32) received Au- of a motor vehicle for the use of natural gas achieve American energy independence in 15 gust 19, 2008, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. fuel, and for other purposes; to the Com- years; to the Committee on Energy and Com- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- mittee on Energy and Commerce. merce, and in addition to the Committees on tation and Infrastructure. By Mr. CANNON (for himself, Mr. Science and Technology, Natural Resources, 8252. A letter from the Program Analyst, SMITH of Texas, Mr. CONYERS, and and Ways and Means, for a period to be sub- Department of Transportation, transmitting Ms. LINDA T. SA´ NCHEZ of California): sequently determined by the Speaker, in

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each case for consideration of such provi- H.R. 3689: Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. H.R. 6581: Mr. ROSS and Ms. CORRINE sions as fall within the jurisdiction of the CAPUANO, Mr. ALTMIRE, and Ms. SHEA-POR- BROWN of Florida. committee concerned. TER. H.R. 6591: Mr. SALAZAR, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, By Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida H.R. 3737: Mr. REYES. Mr. TANCREDO, and Mr. LAMBORN. (for herself and Mr. BRADY of Penn- H.R. 3749: Mr. BLUMENAUER. H.R. 6598: Mr. RANGEL, Mr. ISRAEL, Mr. sylvania): H.R. 3820: Mr. JONES of North Carolina. JOHNSON of Georgia, Ms. MCCOLLUM of Min- H. Res. 1423. A resolution congratulating H.R. 3865: Ms. DELAURO. nesota, Mr. SHERMAN, Mr. WU, Ms. MOORE of Master Wan Ko Yee, a permanent resident of H.R. 3929: Ms. BERKLEY, Mr. HOLT, Mrs. Wisconsin, Mr. RUPPERSBERGER, Mr. LIPIN- the United States, on the publication of his BIGGERT, and Mr. PLATTS. SKI, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. MOORE of Kan- teachings and accomplishments in the book H.R. 4052: Mr. MCINTYRE. sas, Mr. GERLACH, Mr. BISHOP of New York, titled, ‘‘H.H. Dorje Chang Buddha III: A H.R. 4102: Ms. LEE. Ms. HIRONO, and Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Treasury of True Buddha-Dharma‘‘; to the H.R. 4105: Mr. CHILDERS and Mr. RUSH. H.R. 6611; Mr. MAHONEY of Florida. Committee on Foreign Affairs. H.R. 4107: Mr. SHAYS. H.R. 6613; Mr. PAYNE. By Mr. ELLISON (for himself and Ms. H.R. 4296: Mr. MILLER of North Carolina. H.R. 6617: Mr. Fortun˜ o, Mr. SIRES, Ms. LEE, JACKSON-LEE of Texas): H.R. 4464: Mr. GARY G. MILLER of Cali- Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. FILNER, H. Res. 1424. A resolution supporting hu- fornia. and Mr. BACA. manitarian assistance, the protection of ci- H.R. 4544: Ms. WATSON, Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. H.R. 6625: Ms. SOLIS, Mr. LEVIN, Ms. WOOL- vilians, and accountability for abuses in So- HIGGINS, Mrs. TAUSCHER, Mr. CUMMINGS, Mr. SEY, Mr. LARSON of Connecticut, Ms. BEAN, malia, and urging concrete progress in line COSTELLO, Mr. CARSON, Mr. COHEN, Mr. Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. MARSHALL, Mr. WALZ of with the Transitional Federal Charter of So- CRENSHAW, Mr. DOGGETT, Ms. LINDA T. Minnesota, Mr. PASTOR, Mr. AL GREEN of malia toward the establishment of a viable SA´ NCHEZ of California, Mr. STARK, Mr. KEL- Texas, Mr. SMITH of Washington, Ms. government of national unity; to the Com- LER, Mr. ELLISON, Mr. MORAN of Kansas, Mr. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. JOHNSON of Georgia, Mr. mittee on Foreign Affairs. SIRES, Mr. OLVER, Mr. BUTTERFIELD, Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. DOGGETT, SESSIONS, Mr. BRALEY of Iowa, Mr. MCNULTY, Mr. ELLISON, and Mr. YARMUTH. f Mr. HODES, Mr. COURTNEY, Mr. GEORGE MIL- H.R. 6636: Ms. WOOLSEY. MEMORIALS LER of California, Ms. HOOLEY, Mr. CLEAVER, H.R. 6662: Mr. HINCHEY, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. Mr. MEEK of Florida, Mr. SALAZAR, Mr. BISHOP of New York, and Mr. MCDERMOTT. Under clause 3 of rule XII, WOLF, Mr. MAHONEY of Florida, Mr. H.R. 6680: Mr. RANGEL and Mr. FRANK of 366. The SPEAKER presented a memorial RUPPERSBERGER, Mr. WILSON of South Caro- Massachusetts. of the 29th Legislature of Guam, relative to lina, Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin, Mr. WAMP, Mr. H.R. 6686: Mr. MCGOVERN and Mrs. LOWEY. support for Resolution 172 I Mina’Bente CALVERT, Mr. PATRICK MURPHY of Pennsyl- H.R. 6691: Mr. PUTNAM, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Nuebi Na Liheslaturan Guahan for the Agent vania, Ms. TSONGAS, Mrs. BACHMANN, Mr. Mr. TANCREDO, Mr. PLATTS, Mr. MILLER of Orange Equity Act; to the Committee on KLINE of Minnesota, Mr. ROTHMAN, Mr. FER- Florida, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. LEWIS of Veterans’ Affairs. GUSON, Mr. HELLER, and Mr. NUNES. California, Mr. BOOZMAN, Mrs. MILLER of H.R. 5180: Mr. GRAVES. Michigan, Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- f H.R. 5268: Ms. HARMAN. ida, Mr. SIMPSON, Ms. FOXX, Mr. WELDON of H.R. 5626: Mr. BLUMENAUER. Florida, and Mr. FEENEY. ADDITIONAL SPONSORS H.R. 5673: Mr. ALEXANDER. H.R. 6696: Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. SUL- Under clause 7 of rule XII, sponsors H.R. 5686: Mr. HARE. LIVAN, Mrs. SCHMIDT, Mrs. CUBIN, Mr. GOODE, were added to public bills and resolu- H.R. 5714: Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. BARRETT of Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. SHADEGG, Mr. CANTOR, Mr. tions as follows: South Carolina, Mrs. MILLER of Michigan, PENCE, Mr. KLINE of Minnesota, Mr. Mr. SPRATT, Mr. MAHONEY of Florida, Mr. WALBERG, Mr. LUCAS, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. H.R. 82: Mrs. BACHMANN. BROWN of South Carolina, Mr. PLATTS, Mr. CHABOT, Ms. FALLIN, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. H.R. 211: Mr. BILBRAY. LARSEN of Washington, Mr. BOUCHER, Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. GINGREY, Mr. H.R. 219: Mr. ROSKAM and Mr. TERRY. PAYNE, Mr. MANZULLO, Mr. WU, Mr. ENGEL, BONNER, Mr. PRICE of Georgia, Mr. BROWN of H.R. 471: Mr. SCALISE. Mr. STUPAK, and Mr. RUPPERSBERGER. South Carolina, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Mr. BRADY H.R. 503: Mr. DENT. H.R. 5793: Mr. MACK, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. of Texas, Mr. NEUGEBAUER, Mr. MARCHANT, H.R. 697: Mr. MARCHANT. CULBERSON, Mr. BOUSTANY, and Mr. WITTMAN Mr. MCHENRY, Mrs. BACHMANN, and Mr. H.R. 715: Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. FARR, and Mr. of Virginia. SCALISE. MICHAUD. H.R. 5854: Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. KLEIN of H.R. 6709: Mr. JEFFERSON, Mr. PETRI, Mr. H.R. 946: Mr. ALLEN and Mr. HARE. FLORIDA, Mr. MICHAUD, Mr. YOUNG of Flor- HARE, and Mr. MITCHELL. H.R. 992: Mr. MCGOVERN. ida, and Mr. FILNER. H.R. 6747: Mr. POE. H.R. 1014: Mr. UPTON. H.R. 5905: Mr. CULBERSON. H.R. 6783: Mr. WELDON of Florida. HILDERS H.R. 1524: Mr. C . H.R. 5950: Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. H.R. 6788: Mr. WITTMAN of Virginia and Mr. H.R. 1576: Mr. ROTHMAN. H.R. 5951: Mr. LIPINSKI. BROWN of South Carolina. H.R. 1621: Mr. KIND. H.R. 6020: Mr. BACA. H.R. 6798: Mr. MCINTYRE. H.R. 1820: Mr. NADLER, Mr. SCOTT of Vir- H.R. 6029: Ms. LEE. H.R. 6817: Mr. KAGEN and Mrs. BOYDA of ginia, Mr. LANGEVIN, Mr. ALLEN, Ms. H.R. 6045: Ms. HIRONO and Mr. MEEKS of Kansas. DELAURO, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. INSLEE, Ms. New York. H.R. 6846: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois and Mrs. CASTOR, Mr. DEFAZIO, Mr. WALZ of Min- H.R. 6066: Mr. ACKERMAN, Mrs. MALONEY of MCCARTHY of New York. nesota, and Mr. SMITH of Washington. New York, and Mr. GRIJALVA. H.J. Res. 12: Mr. KUHL of New York. H.R. 1843: Mr. SAXTON. H.R. 6072: Mr. LANGEVIN. H.J. Res. 36: Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas and H.R. 2015: Ms. SPEIER. H.R. 6126: Mr. BERMAN and Mr. STARK. Mr. CLEAVER. H.R. 2020: Mr. FEENEY, Mr. DENT, and Mr. H.R. 6139: Mr. HELLER. H. Con. Res. 22: Mr. KUCINICH. ALTMIRE. H.R. 6151: Ms. MCCOLLUM of Minnesota, and H. Con. Res. 40: Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland H.R. 2032: Mr. ALTMIRE. Mr. LIPINSKI. and Mr. TERRY. H.R. 2066: Ms. DELAURO. H.R. 6172: Mr. BERRY and Mr. DEFAZIO. H. Con. Res. 81: Mr. CUMMINGS and Mrs. H.R. 2116: Mr. MORAN of Kansas. H.R. 6259: Mr. NADLER. EMERSON. H.R. 2232: Mr. INSLEE. H.R. 6287: Mr. MAHONEY of Florida. H. Con. Res. 341: Mr. HASTINGS of Wash- H.R. 2266: Mr. WALZ of Minnesota. H.R. 6288: Mr. FEENEY. ington, Mr. PERLMUTTER, Mr. PASCRELL, and H.R. 2279: Mr. HOEKSTRA and Mr. GOODE. H.R. 6368: Mr. FEENEY. Mr. COURTNEY. H.R. 2668: Mr. MCINTYRE. H.R. 6373: Mr. LATTA. H. Con. Res. 378: Mrs. DRAKE, Mr. BROWN of H.R. 2842: Mr. MILLER of North Carolina. H.R. 6375: Ms. WOOLSEY. South Carolina, Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN, Mr. H.R. 2864: Mr. SHAYS. H.R. 6379: Mr. ROHRABACHER. BOUSTANY, Mr. WHITFIELD of Kentucky, Mrs. H.R. 2993: Ms. KAPTUR. H.R. 6407: Ms. WOOLSEY. CAPPS, Mr. RUPPERSBERGER, Mr. ISSA, Ms. H.R. 3041: Mr. MOORE of Kansas. H.R. 6444: Ms. MCCOLLUM of Minnesota. FALLIN, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. SHIMKUS, Mrs. H.R. 3232: Mr. LAMBORN, Ms. MATSUI, Mr. H.R. 6453: Mrs. CUBIN. SCHMIDT, Mr. SHADEGG, Mr. CANTOR, Mr. LAMPSON, Ms. HERSETH SANDLIN, and Ms. H.R. 6462: Mr. POE. PENCE, Mr. LUCAS, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mrs. ESHOO. H.R. 6491: Mr. KLINE of Minnesota. MUSGRAVE, Mr. SULLIVAN, Mr. GOODE, Mr. H.R. 3257: Mr. BLUMENAUER. H.R. 6520: Ms. BORDALLO and Mr. ISRAEL. MARCHANT, Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. H.R. 3319: Mr. MCGOVERN and Ms. EDDIE H.R. 6559: Mr. LIPINSKI. GINGREY, Mr. BONNER, Mr. BRADY of Texas, BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas. H.R. 6562: Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. Mrs. BACHMANN, Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. H.R. 3326: Ms. DELAURO, Ms. CASTOR, Mr. ORTIZ, and Mr. ROGERS of Alabama. NEUGEBAUER, Mr. RADANOVICH, and Mr. WAL- KLEIN of Florida, and Mr. DEFAZIO. H.R. 6566: Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Flor- DEN of Oregon. H.R. 3334: Mr. TIM MURPHY of Pennsyl- ida and Mr. LEWIS of California. H. Con. Res. 405: Mrs. EMERSON and Mr. vania, Ms. WOOLSEY, and Mr. MCINTYRE. H.R. 6567: Mr. BISHOP of Utah. ABERCROMBIE. H.R. 3544: Mrs. EMERSON. H.R. 6568: Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. H. Con. Res. 409: Mr. MCCOTTER. H.R. 3622: Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina. H.R. 6577: Mr. TIBERI. H. Res. 598: Mr. MCINTYRE.

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