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The Trimmer Family Report

The Trimmer Family Report

Researched and Prepared By Paul McNeil [email protected] www.timedetectives.co.uk November 2009 © Timedetectives 2009

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Direct Descendants of William Trimmer

William Mary Trimmer Jennings b: 1672 b: 1672

William Sarah Trimmer Seagrove b: 1713 b: 1713

John Mary Trimmer Dittman b: 1749 b: 1749

Henry Dinah Trimmer Sexton b: 1788 b: 1791 m: 21 Jul 1811 Saint George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey

Henry William Sarah Trimmer Keeper b: 21 Feb 1819 St. George The Martyr, b: 1820 Southwark, Surrey Chimney Sweep

Henry William Trimmer Sarah E Steele Hilliard b: 1834 St George in the East, b: Bet. 1829 - 1832 Haggerstone, Hoxton, d: 1871 Lambeth, Surrey Middlesex 1: Labourer m: 1864 Westham, Essex 2: 1864 Carman d: Abt. 1911 Lambeth, Surrey 3: 1871 Sweep 1: 1861 Bootbinder 2: 1881 Charwoman 3: 1891 Mangle Woman (washerwoman) 4: 1901 Charwoman

Henry William Eliza Trimmer Sanders b: 08 Mar 1860 Union Workhouse, b: 12 Apr 1863 6 Cleveland St, Leytonstone, Essex Camberwell, , UK d: 17 Mar 1916 St George Cottage Hospital, m: 13 Sep 1884 St John's Church, Kogarah, , Walworth, Surrey 1881 Private RMLI d: 08 Jul 1935 St George District Hospital, 1: Bet. 1887 - 1901 General Labourer Kogarah, Sydney, NSW, Australia 2: Bricklayer 1: 1881 Domestic Servant 3: 1884 Sweep 2: 1883 Laundress 4: Bet. 1889 - 1891 Bricklayers' Labourer 5: 1908 Carman 6: 1916 Labourer

Caroline Elizabeth Trimmer b: 04 Sep 1883 98 Picton St, Camberwell, Surrey d: 19 Jan 1974 New Cross Hospital, London 1911 Solderer of Tinware

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Origins of the name

The origins of the name are somewhat obscure, and may be one of a number of derivations. The basic word is from the Old English adjective Trum which meant firm, which gave the Old English verb Trymman to set in order, from which we get the verb “to trim”, and so the noun a trimmer for someone who trims.

The origins of the noun as a verb probably came from either from the nautical term for someone who managed the course of a boat by “trimming” the sails, or from someone who trimmed hedges or sheep.

This term “A Trimmer” was then corrupted into a term for a woman who scolded her husband and thereby kept him in order, and for people who were out to serve their time and survive in a position of employment irrespective of the fluctuations of those around them, as they would “trim their course” between all parties.

Given that the Trimmer name in this line was particularly common in central Hampshire, it is very likely that the derivation in this case was for someone who trimmed sheep or wool during the Middle Ages.

At some stage leading they left the land for a life in Southwark, which was then part of the Surrey Bank of the Thames South of London, and were working as Chimney Sweeps an occupation that they kept to for nearly 100 years.

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Descendants of William Trimmer

Generation No. 1 Descendants of William Trimmer

William Mary Trimmer Jennings b: 1672 b: 1672

William Sarah Trimmer Seagrove b: 1713 b: 1713

1. W ILLIAM 1 T RIMMER was born 1672. He married M ARY J ENNINGS . She was born 1672.

Child of W ILLIAM T RIMMER and M ARY J ENNINGS is: 2. i. WILLIAM 2 T RIMMER , b. 1713.

Generation No. 2 Descendants of William Trimmer

William Sarah Trimmer Seagrove b: 1713 b: 1713

John Mary Trimmer Dittman b: 1749 b: 1749

2. W ILLIAM 2 T RIMMER (W ILLIAM 1) was born 1713. He married S ARAH S EAGROVE . She was born 1713.

Child of W ILLIAM T RIMMER and S ARAH S EAGROVE is: 3. i. JOHN 3 T RIMMER , b. 1749.

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Generation No. 3 Descendants of John Trimmer

John Mary Trimmer Dittman b: 1749 b: 1749

Henry Dinah Trimmer Sexton b: 1788 b: 1791 m: 21 Jul 1811 Saint George The Marty r, Southwark, Surrey

3. J OHN 3 TRIMMER (W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 1749. He married M ARY DITTMAN . She was born 1749.

Child of J OHN T RIMMER and M ARY D ITTMAN is: 4. i. HENRY 4 T RIMMER , b. 1788.

Generation No. 4 Descendants of Henry Trimmer

Henry Dinah Trimmer Sexton b: 1788 b: 1791 m: 21 Jul 1811 Saint George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey

Henry William Sarah Trimmer Keeper b: 21 Feb 1819 St. George The b: 1820 Martyr, Southwark, Surrey Chimney Sweep

4. H ENRY 4 T RIMMER (J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 1788. He married DINAH S EXTON 21 Jul 1811 in Saint George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey. She was born 1791.

More About H ENRY T RIMMER and D INAH S EXTON : Marriage: 21 Jul 1811, Saint George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey

Child of H ENRY T RIMMER and D INAH S EXTON is: 5. i. HENRY W ILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , b. 21 Feb 1819, St. George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey.

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Generation No. 5 Descendants of Henry William Trimmer

Henry William Sarah Trimmer Keeper b: 21 Feb 1819 St. George The Martyr, b: 1820 Southwark, Surrey Chimney Sweep

Henry William Trimmer Sarah E Steele Hilliard b: 1834 St George in the East, b: Bet. 1829 - 1832 Haggerstone, Hoxton, d: 1871 Lambeth, Surrey Middlesex 1: Labourer m: 1864 Westham, Essex 2: 1864 Carman d: Abt. 1911 Lambeth, Surrey 3: 1871 Sweep 1: 1861 Bootbinder 2: 1881 Charwoman 3: 1891 Mangle Woman (washerwoman) 4: 1901 Charwoman

5. H ENRY W ILLIAM 5 T RIMMER (H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 21 Feb 1819 in St. George The Martyr, Southwark, Surrey. He married S ARAH K EEPER . She was born 1820.

More About H ENRY W ILLIAM T RIMMER : Occupation: Chimney Sweep

Child of H ENRY T RIMMER and S ARAH K EEPER is: 6. i. HENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE , b. 1834, St George in the East,; d. 1871, Lambeth, Surrey.

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Generation No. 6 Direct Descendants of Henry William Trimmer Steele

Henry William Trimmer Sarah E Steele Hilliard b: 1834 St George in the East, b: Bet. 1829 - 1832 Haggerstone, Hoxton, d: 1871 Lambeth, Surrey Middlesex 1: Labourer m: 1864 Westham, Essex 2: 1864 Carman d: Abt. 1911 Lambeth, Surrey 3: 1871 Sweep 1: 1861 Bootbinder 2: 1881 Charwoman 3: 1891 Mangle Woman (washerwoman) 4: 1901 Charwoman

Sarah E Henry William Mary Trimmer Ellen Trimmer Maria Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer Steel Steel Steel b: 1858 Bethnal Green b: 08 Mar 1860 Union Workhouse, b: 1865 Lambeth, Surrey b: 1867 Lambeth, Surrey b: 1869 Lambeth, Surrey Leytonstone, Essex 1881 Boxmaker d: 1868 Lambeth, Surrey d: 17 Mar 1916 St George Cottage Hospital, Kogarah, Sydney, Australia 1881 Private RMLI 1: Bet. 1887 - 1901 General Labourer 2: Bricklayer 3: 1884 Sweep 4: Bet. 1889 - 1891 Bricklayers' Labourer 5: 1908 Carman 6: 1916 Labourer

6. H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE (H ENRY W ILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, WILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 1834 in St George in the East,, and died 1871 in Lambeth, Surrey. He married S ARAH E H ILLIARD 1864 in Westham, Essex, daughter of F REDERICK H ILLIARD and E LIZABETH . She was born Bet. 1829 - 1832 in Haggerstone, Hoxton, Middlesex, and died Abt. 1911 in Lambeth, Surrey.

More About H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER S TEELE : Occupation 1: Labourer Occupation 2: 1864, Carman Occupation 3: 1871, Sweep Residence 1: 1871, 13 Bond Place, Lambeth, Surrey Residence 2: 1864, 6 Salutation Place, Lambeth, Surrey

More About S ARAH E H ILLIARD : Occupation 1: 1861, Bootbinder Occupation 2: 1881, Charwoman Occupation 3: 1891, Mangle Woman (washerwoman) Occupation 4: 1901, Charwoman Residence 1: Bet. 1891 - 1901, 3 Salutation Place, Lambeth, Surrey Residence 2: Bet. 1860 - 1861, Leytonstone Workhouse, Essex Residence 3: 1881, 14 Salutation Place, Lambeth, Surrey

More About H ENRY S TEELE and S ARAH H ILLIARD : Marriage: 1864, West Ham, Essex

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Children of H ENRY S TEELE and S ARAH H ILLIARD are: i. SARAH E 7 T RIMMER , b. 1858, Bethnal Green. 7. ii. HENRY W ILLIAM T RIMMER , b. 08 Mar 1860, Union Workhouse, Leytonstone, Essex; d. 17 Mar 1916, St George Cottage Hospital, Kogarah, Sydney, Australia. 8. iii. MARY T RIMMER S TEEL , b. 1865, Lambeth, Surrey. iv. ELLEN T RIMMER S TEEL , b. 1867, Lambeth, Surrey; d. 1868, Lambeth, Surrey. 9. v. MARIA T RIMMER S TEEL , b. 1869, Lambeth, Surrey.

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Generation No. 7 Direct Descendants of Henry William Trimmer

Henry William Eliza Trimmer Sanders b: 08 Mar 1860 Union b: 12 Apr 1863 6 Workhouse, Leytonstone, Cleveland St, Essex Camberwell, London, UK d: 17 Mar 1916 St George m: 13 Sep 1884 St John's Cottage Hospital, Church, Walworth, Kogarah, Sydney, Surrey Australia d: 08 Jul 1935 St George 1881 Private RMLI District Hospital, 1: Bet. 1887 - 1901 Kogarah, Sydney, NSW, General Labourer Australia 2: Bricklayer 1: 1881 Domestic Servant 3: 1884 Sweep 2: 1883 Laundress 4: Bet. 1889 - 1891 Bricklayers' Labourer 5: 1908 Carman 6: 1916 Labourer

Caroline Elizabeth Henry William Albert Edward Sarah Ann Joseph Eliza Nelly Florence Maud Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer b: 04 Sep 1883 98 Picton b: 12 Mar 1887 38 b: 23 Jun 1889 83 Penton b: 18 May 1891 42 b: 15 Oct 1893 30 Dartnall b: 30 Oct 1895 30 b: 01 Mar 1898 30 b: 28 Apr 1900 16a St, Camberwell, Surrey Graylands Rd, Peckham, Place, Newington, London Pitman St., Vauxhall, Road, Camberwell, Dartnall Road, Dartnall Road, Diamond d: 19 Jan 1974 New Surrey 1: 1940 Private, 3 Lambeth, London London Camberwell, London Camberwell, London Street,Camberwell, Cross Hospital, London d: 1969 Randwick, Garrison Battalion, d: 1937 Newtown, NSW, 1: Bet. 1940 - 1946 d: Abt. 1988 d: 1974 NSW, Australia London 1911 Solderer of Tinware Australia Australian Army Australia Private, 2 Australian B A d: 1957 Rockdale, NSW, 1: Bet. 1903 - 1918 2: Bet. 1940 - 1942 D Australia Seaman, Private, Corps of Signals, 2: 1915 Royal Australian 2: Bet. 1915 - 1918 Australian Army Engineers Submariner, Royal Navy 1: 1936 Labourer Bet. 1930 - 1936 1: Bet. 1903 - 1919 2: Feb 1920 Able Seaman, Warehouseman Seaman, Royal Navy Trinculo 2: 1901 Fishmonger's 3: Jul 1920 Able Seaman, Assistant Gothic Prince 3: 1924 Police Constable 4: Bet. 1930 - 1936 Machinist

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Generation No. 7 7. H ENRY W ILLIAM 7 T RIMMER (H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE , H ENRY WILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 08 Mar 1860 in Union Workhouse, Leytonstone, Essex, and died 17 Mar 1916 in St George Cottage Hospital, Kogarah, Sydney, Australia. He married ELIZA S ANDERS 13 Sep 1884 in St John's Church, Walworth, Surrey. She was born 12 Apr 1863 in 6 Cleveland St, Camberwell, London, UK, and died 08 Jul 1935 in St George District Hospital, Kogarah, Sydney, NSW, Australia.

More About H ENRY W ILLIAM T RIMMER : Cause of Death: Phthisis Pulmonatis, Haemoptysis Exhaustion Emigration: 28 Nov 1908, Pericles (Aberdeen Line), Sailed from London to Sydney Military service: 1881, Private RMLI Occupation 1: Bet. 1887 - 1901, General Labourer Occupation 2: Bricklayer Occupation 3: 1884, Sweep Occupation 4: Bet. 1889 - 1891, Bricklayers' Labourer Occupation 5: 1908, Carman Occupation 6: 1916, Labourer Residence 1: 1901, 22 McNeil Road, Camberwell, London Residence 2: 1881, Royal Marine Barracks, Chatham, Kent Residence 3: 1884, 7 East Street, Walworth, Surrey Residence 4: 1887, 38 Graylands Road, Peckham, London Residence 5: 1889, 83 Penton Place, Newington, London Residence 6: Bet. Mar - May 1891, 42 Pitman St., Vauxhall, Lambeth, London Residence 7: Bet. 1893 - 1895, 30 Dartnal Road, Camberwell, London Residence 8: 1900, 16a Diamond Street, Camberwell, London

More About E LIZA S ANDERS : Cause of Death: Cardiac Failure, Bronchopneumonia Emigration: 1909, NSW, Australia Occupation 1: 1881, Domestic Servant Occupation 2: 1883, Laundress Residence: 1883, 98 Picton St, Camberwell, Surrey

More About H ENRY T RIMMER and E LIZA S ANDERS : Marriage: 13 Sep 1884, St John's Church, Walworth, Surrey

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Children of H ENRY T RIMMER and E LIZA S ANDERS are: 10. i. CAROLINE E LIZABETH 8 T RIMMER , b. 04 Sep 1883, 98 Picton St, Camberwell, Surrey; d. 19 Jan 1974, New Cross Hospital, London. 11. ii. HENRY W ILLIAM T RIMMER , b. 12 Mar 1887, 38 Graylands Rd, Peckham, Surrey; d. 1969, Randwick, Australia. iii. ALBERT E DWARD T RIMMER , b. 23 Jun 1889, 83 Penton Place, Newington, London; m. M ILDRED M ARY H ORE , 1930, Australia; d. 1977.

More About A LBERT EDWARD T RIMMER : Military service 1: 1940, Private, 3 Garrison Battalion, Australian Army Military service 2: Bet. 1940 - 1942, Private, Corps of Signals, Australian Army Occupation 1: 1936, Labourer Occupation 2: Feb 1920, Able Seaman, Trinculo Occupation 3: Jul 1920, Able Seaman, Gothic Prince Residence: 1936, Millamalong, Lyndhurst, NSW, Australia

More About M ILDRED M ARY H ORE : Occupation: 1936, Home Duties Residence: 1936, Millamalong, Lyndhurst, NSW, Australia

More About A LBERT T RIMMER and M ILDRED H ORE : Marriage: 1930, Australia

12. iv. SARAH A NN T RIMMER , b. 18 May 1891, 42 Pitman St., Vauxhall, Lambeth, London; d. 1937, Newtown, NSW, Australia. 13. v. JOSEPH T RIMMER , b. 15 Oct 1893, 30 Dartnall Road, Camberwell, London. 14. vi. ELIZA T RIMMER, b. 30 Oct 1895, 30 Dartnall Road, Camberwell, London; d. Abt. 1988. vii. NELLY T RIMMER , b. 01 Mar 1898, 30 Dartnall Road, Camberwell, London; d. 1974, NSW, Australia; m. R OY T E W RIGHT , 1920, Australia.

More About R OY W RIGHT and N ELLY T RIMMER : Marriage: 1920, Australia

viii. FLORENCE M AUD T RIMMER , b. 28 Apr 1900, 16a Diamond Street,Camberwell, London; d. 1957, Rockdale, NSW, Australia; m. FREDERICK B ARKER , 1919, Australia.

More About F REDERICK B ARKER and F LORENCE T RIMMER : Marriage: 1919, Australia

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Descendants of Mary Trimmer Steel

Mary Trimmer Charles Nicholas Steel Short b: 1865 Lambeth, Surrey b: 1863 Lambeth, Surrey 1881 Boxmaker m: 1883 St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey 1891 General Labourer

Mary Maria Charles John H Short Short Short Short b: 1885 Lambeth, Surrey b: 1888 Lambeth, Surrey b: 1890 Lambeth, Surrey b: 1891 Lambeth, Surrey

8. M ARY T RIMMER 7 S TEEL (H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE , H ENRY W ILLIAM 5 TRIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 1865 in Lambeth, Surrey. She married C HARLES N ICHOLAS S HORT 1883 in St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey. He was born 1863 in Lambeth, Surrey.

More About M ARY T RIMMER S TEEL : Occupation: 1881, Boxmaker Residence: 1881, 14 Salutation Place, Lambeth, Surrey

More About C HARLES N ICHOLAS S HORT : Occupation: 1891, General Labourer Residence: 1891, 3 Princes Square, Lambeth, Surrey

More About C HARLES S HORT and M ARY S TEEL : Marriage: 1883, St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey

Children of M ARY S TEEL and C HARLES S HORT are: i. MARY 8 S HORT , b. 1885, Lambeth, Surrey. ii. MARIA S HORT , b. 1888, Lambeth, Surrey. iii. CHARLES S HORT , b. 1890, Lambeth, Surrey. iv. JOHN H S HORT , b. 1891, Lambeth, Surrey.

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Descendants of Maria Trimmer Steel

Maria Trimmer Frederic George Steel Topley b: 1869 Lambeth, Surrey 1: 1891 Carman 2: 1881 Coal Boy

Frederic G Topley b: 1889 Lambeth, Surrey

9. M ARIA T RIMMER 7 S TEEL (H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE , H ENRY W ILLIAM 5 TRIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 1869 in Lambeth, Surrey. She married F REDERIC G EORGE T OPLEY .

More About F REDERIC G EORGE T OPLEY : Occupation 1: 1891, Carman Occupation 2: 1881, Coal Boy Residence: 1881, 12 Salutation Place, Lambeth, Surrey

Child of M ARIA S TEEL and F REDERIC T OPLEY is: i. FREDERIC G 8 T OPLEY , b. 1889, Lambeth, Surrey.

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Generation No. 8 Descendants of Caroline Elizabeth Trimmer

Henry Gould Caroline Elizabeth Arthur Patrick Drew Trimmer McNeil b: 1880 Walworth, Surrey, b: 04 Sep 1883 98 Picton b: 29 Jan 1888 72 Camden UK St, Camberwell, Surrey Grove North, Camberwell, m: Abt. 1901 d: 19 Jan 1974 New Surrey, d: 29 Jun 1914 45 Cross Hospital, London m: 26 Sep 1915 Haymerle Road, Peckham, 1911 Solderer of Tinware St.Andrews Church, London Peckham, London 1: Bet. 1901 - 1911 d: 01 Jan 1938 6 Vaughan Carman Place, Camberwell, 2: 1911 Carman London Contractor (Building 1918 Private, Army Trade) Service Corps 3: 1914 Deal Porter 1: 26 Sep 1915 Tinsmith 2: 1938 Journeyman Tinsmith

10. C AROLINE E LIZABETH 8 T RIMMER (H ENRY W ILLIAM 7, H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 STEELE , H ENRY W ILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 04 Sep 1883 in 98 Picton St, Camberwell, Surrey, and died 19 Jan 1974 in New Cross Hospital, London. She married (1) H ENRY G OULD D REW Abt. 1901. He was born 1880 in Walworth, Surrey, UK, and died 29 Jun 1914 in 45 Haymerle Road, Peckham, London. She married (2) A RTHUR P ATRICK M CNEIL 26 Sep 1915 in St.Andrews Church, Peckham, London. He was born 29 Jan 1888 in 72 Camden Grove North, Camberwell, Surrey, England, and died 01 Jan 1938 in 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London.

More About C AROLINE E LIZABETH T RIMMER : Cause of Death: Congestive Cardiac Failure, Bronchopneumonia Occupation: 1911, Solderer of Tinware Residence 1: 1974, 63 Astley House, Southwark, London, SE1 Residence 2: Bet. 1908 - 1911, 2 Leyton Square, Peckham, London Residence 3: 26 Sep 1915, 45 Haymerle Road

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Caroline Elizabeth Henry Gould Trimmer Drew b: 04 Sep 1883 98 Picton St, b: 1880 Walworth, Surrey, UK Camberwell, Surrey m: Abt. 1901 d: 19 Jan 1974 New Cross d: 29 Jun 1914 45 Haymerle Hospital, London Road, Peckham, London 1911 Solderer of Tinware 1: Bet. 1901 - 1911 Carman 2: 1911 Carman Contractor (Building Trade) 3: 1914 Deal Porter

Henry Gould Florence Albert Edward Drew Drew Drew b: 22 Apr 1904 Peckham, b: 1907 Peckham, London b: 02 Jun 1911 Camberwell, London London d: 07 Dec 1980 Brook Hospital, d: Oct 1989 Camberwell, Greenwich London 1980 General Labourer (Retired)

More About H ENRY G OULD D REW : Cause of Death: Pneumonia, Meningitis Medical Information: Pneumonia 17 days, Meningitis 4 days Occupation 1: Bet. 1901 - 1911, Carman Occupation 2: 1911, Carman Contractor (Building Trade) Occupation 3: 1914, Deal Porter Residence 1: 1914, 45 Haymerle Road, Peckham, London Residence 2: 1901, 4 King and Queen Street, Walworth, London Residence 3: 1904, 25 Canal Bank, Peckham, London Residence 4: Bet. 1909 - 1911, 2 Leyton Square, Peckham, London

More About H ENRY D REW and C AROLINE T RIMMER : Marriage: Abt. 1901

Children of C AROLINE T RIMMER and H ENRY D REW are: i. HENRY G OULD 9 D REW , b. 22 Apr 1904, Peckham, London; d. 07 Dec 1980, Brook Hospital, Greenwich; m. L UCY E LLEN ; b. 04 Dec 1905; d. 1980, Greenwich.

More About H ENRY G OULD D REW : Cause of Death: Coronary Thrombosis, Benign Gastric Ulcer Occupation: 1980, General Labourer (Retired) Residence: 1980, 38 Maudslay Road, Eltham, London S.E.9

ii. FLORENCE D REW , b. 1907, Peckham, London. iii. ALBERT E DWARD D REW , b. 02 Jun 1911, Camberwell, London; d. Oct 1989, Camberwell, London.

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Direct Descendants of Caroline Elizabeth Trimmer

Caroline Elizabeth Arthur Patrick Trimmer McNeil b: 04 Sep 1883 98 Picton b: 29 Jan 1888 72 Camden St, Camberwell, Surrey Grove North, Camberwell, d: 19 Jan 1974 New Surrey, England Cross Hospital, London m: 26 Sep 1915 1911 Solderer of Tinware St.Andrews Church, Peckham, London d: 01 Jan 1938 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London 1918 Private, Army Service Corps 1: 26 Sep 1915 Tinsmith 2: 1938 Journeyman Tinsmith

Alice Mary Rosina Kathleen Patricia Grace Arthur Patrick Leonard Henry Edward Dennis McNeil McNeil McNeil McNeil McNeil McNeil b: 13 Nov 1915 11 b: 26 Apr 1918 6 b: 03 Dec 1919 6 b: 05 Dec 1922 6 Vaughan b: 07 Mar 1925 6 Vaughan b: 08 Feb 1928 6 Vaughan Mazzard Row, Vaughan Place, Vaughan Place, Place, Camberwell, Place, Peckham, London Place, Camberwell, Camberwell, London Camberwell, London Camberwell, London London d: 26 Jun 1985 Leighton London d: 05 Jun 1919 6 d: 22 Sep 2000 Sydney, d: 24 Nov 1985 Queen d: 08 Apr 1988 King's Hospital, Crewe, Cheshire d: 28 Dec 1952 54 Philip Vaughan Place, Australia Mary's Hospital, College Hospital, 1: 1946 Private14517558 Rd, Peckham, London Camberwell, London Roehampton Denmark Hill, London Royal Army Ordnance SE15 1988 Head Storeman Corps (Electrical (Retired) Instrument Operator) 2: Bet. 1946 - 1966 Bricklayer and Labourer 3: Bet. 1967 - 1972 Chauffeur and Minder, Nolan Family, Cheapside, London 4: Bet. 1972 - 1985 Engineer's Assistant, Tower Bridge London

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More About A RTHUR P ATRICK M CNEIL : Cause of Death: Pulmonary Tuberculosis Military service: 1918, Private, Army Service Corps Occupation 1: 26 Sep 1915, Tinsmith Occupation 2: 1938, Journeyman Tinsmith Residence 1: Bet. 1920 - 1938, 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London Residence 2: 26 Sep 1915, 11 Mazzard Row, Camberwell, London

More About A RTHUR M CNEIL and C AROLINE T RIMMER : Marriage: 26 Sep 1915, St.Andrews Church, Peckham, London

Children of C AROLINE T RIMMER and A RTHUR M CNEIL are: iv. ALICE M ARY 9 M CNEIL , b. 13 Nov 1915, 11 Mazzard Row, Camberwell, London; d. 05 Jun 1919, 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London.

More About A LICE M ARY M CNEIL : Cause of Death: Measles, Pneumonia

v. ROSINA K ATHLEEN M CNEIL , b. 26 Apr 1918, 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London; d. 22 Sep 2000, Sydney, Australia; m. S IDNEY HOWARD B ULL , 25 Jan 1942.

More About S IDNEY B ULL and R OSINA M CNEIL : Marriage: 25 Jan 1942

vi. PATRICIA G RACE M CNEIL , b. 03 Dec 1919, 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London; d. 24 Nov 1985, Queen Mary's Hospital, Roehampton; m. G EORGE E RNEST W ING ; b. Abt. 1915, St Olave, London; d. Bef. 1986.

More About P ATRICIA G RACE M CNEIL : Cause of Death: Bronchial pneumonia, Recurrent Carcinoma of the Colon Medical Information: Found dead on arrival at Queen Mary's Hospital Roehampton. Certified by Paul Knapman Coroner for Inner West London after post mortem without inquest. Residence: 1985, 20 Selhurst House, Parkside, Wimbledon, London, SW19

More About G EORGE E RNEST W ING : Occupation: 1985, Haulage Driver (Retired) Residence: 1985, 20 Selhurst House, Parkside, Wimbledon, London, SW19

vii. ARTHUR P ATRICK M CNEIL , b. 05 Dec 1922, 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London; d. 08 Apr 1988, King's College Hospital, Denmark Hill, London; m. R OSETTA G ILBERT .

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More About A RTHUR P ATRICK M CNEIL : Cause of Death: Bronchogenic Carcinoma Occupation: 1988, Head Storeman (Retired) Residence: 1988, 1 Vivien Square, Scylla Road, Peckham, London, SE15

More About R OSETTA G ILBERT : Residence: 1988, 1 Vivien Square, Scylla Road, Peckham, London, SE15 viii. LEONARD H ENRY M CNEIL , b. 07 Mar 1925, 6 Vaughan Place, Peckham, London; d. 26 Jun 1985, Leighton Hospital, Crewe, Cheshire; m. P EGGY E MILY L OCK , 13 Apr 1946, Camberwell Registry Office, Camberwell, London; b. 12 Nov 1927, 58 Canterbury Road, Deptford North, London; d. 07 May 1983, Guys Hospital, Southwark, London.

More About L EONARD H ENRY M CNEIL : Cause of Death: Coronary Artery Thrombosis Fact 2: 1946, 54 Philip Road, peckham, London, SE15 Fact 3: 1947, 76 Verney Road, London, SE16 Occupation 1: 1946, Private14517558 Royal Army Ordnance Corps (Electrical Instrument Operator) Occupation 2: Bet. 1946 - 1966, Bricklayer and Labourer Occupation 3: Bet. 1967 - 1972, Chauffeur and Minder, Nolan Family, Cheapside, London Occupation 4: Bet. 1972 - 1985, Engineer's Assistant, Tower Bridge London

More About P EGGY E MILY L OCK : Cause of Death: Carcinomatosis, Unknown Primary Fact 2: 1946, 56 Leo Street, London, SE15 Fact 5: 1983, 114 Wivenhoe Close, Peckham, London, SE15 Medical Information: Blood Group A Rh+ Occupation: 1946, Womens' Land Army

More About L EONARD M CNEIL and P EGGY L OCK : Marriage: 13 Apr 1946, Camberwell Registry Office, Camberwell, London

ix. EDWARD D ENNIS M CNEIL , b. 08 Feb 1928, 6 Vaughan Place, Camberwell, London; d. 28 Dec 1952, 54 Philip Rd, Peckham, London SE15.

More About E DWARD D ENNIS M CNEIL : Cause of Death: Acute Narcotic Poisoning, Self Administered

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Descendants of Henry William Trimmer

Henry William Florence Emma Trimmer Noakes b: 12 Mar 1887 38 Graylands Rd, Peckham, b: 1889 Borough, London Surrey m: 23 Aug 1908 St Matthew's, Newington d: 1969 Randwick, Australia d: 1976 NSW, Australia 1: Bet. 1903 - 1918 Seaman, Royal Navy 2: Bet. 1915 - 1918 Submariner, Royal Navy 1: Bet. 1903 - 1919 Seaman, Royal Navy 2: 1901 Fishmonger's Assistant 3: 1924 Police Constable 4: Bet. 1930 - 1936 Machinist

Irene F Vera Mary Dorothy Kathleen Trimmer Trimmer Trimmer b: 1911 b: 1912 Southwark, London b: 1914 Thanet, Kent 1936 Tailoress 1936 Process Worker

11. H ENRY W ILLIAM 8 T RIMMER (H ENRY W ILLIAM 7, H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 STEELE , H ENRY W ILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 12 Mar 1887 in 38 Graylands Rd, Peckham, Surrey, and died 1969 in Randwick, Australia. He married F LORENCE E MMA N OAKES 23 Aug 1908 in St Matthew's, Newington. She was born 1889 in Borough, London, and died 1976 in NSW, Australia.

More About H ENRY W ILLIAM T RIMMER : Emigration: 07 Aug 1924, Sydney, Australia Military service 1: Bet. 1903 - 1918, Seaman, Royal Navy Military service 2: Bet. 1915 - 1918, Submariner, Royal Navy Occupation 1: Bet. 1903 - 1919, Seaman, Royal Navy Occupation 2: 1901, Fishmonger's Assistant Occupation 3: 1924, Police Constable Occupation 4: Bet. 1930 - 1936, Machinist Residence 1: 1924, 7 Salmestone Rise, College Rd, Margate, Kent Residence 2: 1908, Royal Navy Depot, Sheerness, Kent Residence 3: Bet. 1915 - 1918, Turkish Prisoner of War Camp Residence 4: Bet. 1930 - 1936, 21 Macquarie St, Cook, NSW, Australia

More About F LORENCE E MMA N OAKES : Residence 1: 1908, 74 Rockingham St, London Residence 2: Bet. 1930 - 1936, 21 Macquarie St, Cook, NSW, Australia

More About H ENRY T RIMMER and F LORENCE N OAKES : Marriage: 23 Aug 1908, St Matthew's, Newington

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Children of H ENRY T RIMMER and F LORENCE N OAKES are: i. IRENE F 9 T RIMMER , b. 1911. ii. VERA M ARY T RIMMER , b. 1912, Southwark, London.

More About V ERA M ARY T RIMMER : Occupation: 1936, Tailoress Residence: 1936, 21 Macquarie St, Cook, NSW, Australia

iii. DOROTHY K ATHLEEN T RIMMER , b. 1914, Thanet, Kent.

More About D OROTHY K ATHLEEN T RIMMER : Occupation: 1936, Process Worker Residence: Bet. 1930 - 1936, 21 Macquarie St, Cook, NSW, Australia

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Descendants of Sarah Ann Trimmer

Sarah Ann Norman Joseph Trimmer Grose b: 18 May 1891 42 Pitman St., Vauxhall, m: 1913 Australia Lambeth, London d: 1937 Newtown, NSW, Australia

x Grose

12. S ARAH A NN 8 T RIMMER (H ENRY W ILLIAM 7, H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE , HENRY W ILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 18 May 1891 in 42 Pitman St., Vauxhall, Lambeth, London, and died 1937 in Newtown, NSW, Australia. She married N ORMAN J OSEPH G ROSE 1913 in Australia.

More About N ORMAN G ROSE and S ARAH T RIMMER : Marriage: 1913, Australia

Child of S ARAH T RIMMER and N ORMAN G ROSE is: i. X9 G ROSE .

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Descendants of Nelly Trimmer

Nelly Roy T E Trimmer Wright b: 01 Mar 1898 30 Dartnall Road, m: 1920 Australia Camberwell, London d: 1974 NSW, Australia

13. J OSEPH 8 T RIMMER (H ENRY W ILLIAM 7, H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE , H ENRY WILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 15 Oct 1893 in 30 Dartnall Road, Camberwell, London. He married ELSIE M AY G OLDFINCH 1916 in Australia.

More About J OSEPH T RIMMER : Emigration: 1909, NSW, Australia Military service 1: Bet. 1940 - 1946, Private, 2 Australian B A D Military service 2: 1915, Royal Australian Engineers Occupation: Bet. 1930 - 1936, Warehouseman Residence 1: 1916, Seaforth Street, Bexley, Sydney, NSW, Australia Residence 2: 1930, Elselyn, McMillan Avenue, Sandringham, Barton, NSW, Australia Residence 3: Bet. 1935 - 1936, Acacia, President Avenue, Sutherland, NSW, Australia

More About E LSIE M AY G OLDFINCH : Residence 1: Bet. 1935 - 1936, Acacia, President Avenue, Sutherland, NSW, Australia Residence 2: 1930, Elselyn, McMillan Avenue, Sandringham, Barton, NSW, Australia

More About J OSEPH T RIMMER and E LSIE G OLDFINCH : Marriage: 1916, Australia

Children of J OSEPH T RIMMER and E LSIE G OLDFINCH are: i. JOSEPH 9 T RIMMER . ii. HENRY T RIMMER , b. 11 Apr 1919.

More About H ENRY T RIMMER : Military service: Bet. 1940 - 1946, Private, 2 Australian B A D

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Descendants of Eliza Trimmer

Eliza Robert James Trimmer Hutton b: 30 Oct 1895 30 Dartnall Road, m: 1935 Australia Camberwell, London d: Abt. 1988

Marjorie Helen Taylor Hutton

14. E LIZA 8 T RIMMER (H ENRY W ILLIAM 7, H ENRY W ILLIAM TRIMMER 6 S TEELE , H ENRY WILLIAM 5 T RIMMER , H ENRY 4, J OHN 3, W ILLIAM 2, W ILLIAM 1) was born 30 Oct 1895 in 30 Dartnall Road, Camberwell, London, and died Abt. 1988. She married R OBERT JAMES H UTTON 1935 in Australia.

More About E LIZA T RIMMER : Residence: 1950, Bells Garden Rd, Peckham, London

More About R OBERT H UTTON and E LIZA T RIMMER : Marriage: 1935, Australia

Child of E LIZA T RIMMER and R OBERT H UTTON is: i. MARJORIE H ELEN 9 H UTTON , m. T AYLOR .

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Timeline

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Mary Jennings

William Trimmer

Sarah Seagrove

William Trimmer

Mary Dittman

John Trimmer

Henry Trimmer

Dinah Sexton

Frederick Hilliard

Elizabeth

Henry William Trimmer

Sarah Keeper

Sarah E Hilliard

Henry William Trimmer Steele

Henry William Trimmer

Eliza Sanders

Caroline Elizabeth Trimmer

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Kinship of William Trimmer

Name Birth date Relationship to William Trimmer

Barker, Frederick Husband of 5th great-granddaughter Bull, Sidney Howard Husband of 6th great-granddaughter Dittman, Mary 1749 Wife of the grandson Drew, Albert Edward 02 Jun 1911 6th great-grandson Drew, Florence 1907 6th great-granddaughter Drew, Henry Gould 1880 Husband of 5th great-granddaughter Drew, Henry Gould 22 Apr 1904 6th great-grandson Ellen, Lucy 04 Dec 1905 Wife of the 6th great-grandson Gilbert, Rosetta Wife of the 6th great-grandson Goldfinch, Elsie May Wife of the 5th great-grandson Grose, Norman Joseph Husband of 5th great-granddaughter Grose, x 6th great-grandson Hilliard, Sarah E Bet. 1829 - 1832Wife of the 3rd great-grandson Hore, Mildred Mary Wife of the 5th great-grandson Hutton, Marjorie Helen 6th great-granddaughter Hutton, Robert James Husband of 5th great-granddaughter Jennings, Mary 1672 Wife Keeper, Sarah 1820 Wife of the 2nd great-grandson Lock, Peggy Emily 12 Nov 1927 Wife of the 6th great-grandson McNeil, Alice Mary 13 Nov 1915 6th great-granddaughter McNeil, Arthur Patrick 29 Jan 1888 Husband of 5th great-granddaughter McNeil, Arthur Patrick 05 Dec 1922 6th great-grandson McNeil, Edward Dennis 08 Feb 1928 6th great-grandson McNeil, Leonard Henry 07 Mar 1925 6th great-grandson McNeil, Patricia Grace 03 Dec 1919 6th great-granddaughter McNeil, Rosina Kathleen 26 Apr 1918 6th great-granddaughter Noakes, Florence Emma 1889 Wife of the 5th great-grandson Sanders, Eliza 12 Apr 1863 Wife of the 4th great-grandson Seagrove, Sarah 1713 Daughter-in-law Sexton, Dinah 1791 Wife of the great-grandson Short, Charles 1890 5th great-grandson Short, Charles Nicholas 1863 Husband of 4th great-granddaughter Short, John H 1891 5th great-grandson Short, Maria 1888 5th great-granddaughter Short, Mary 1885 5th great-granddaughter Steel, Ellen Trimmer 1867 4th great-granddaughter Steel, Maria Trimmer 1869 4th great-granddaughter Steel, Mary Trimmer 1865 4th great-granddaughter Steele, Henry William Trimmer1834 3rd great-grandson Taylor Husband of 6th great-granddaughter Terry, Henry Robert 08 Mar 1860 4th great-grandson Topley, Frederic G 1889 5th great-grandson Topley, Frederic George Husband of 4th great-granddaughter Trimmer, Albert Edward 23 Jun 1889 5th great-grandson Trimmer, Caroline Elizabeth 04 Sep 1883 5th great-granddaughter Trimmer, Dorothy Kathleen 1914 6th great-granddaughter

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Trimmer, Eliza 30 Oct 1895 5th great-granddaughter Trimmer, Florence Maud 28 Apr 1900 5th great-granddaughter Trimmer, Henry 1788 Great-grandson Trimmer, Henry 11 Apr 1919 6th great-grandson Trimmer, Henry William 21 Feb 1819 2nd great-grandson Trimmer, Henry William 08 Mar 1860 4th great-grandson Trimmer, Henry William 12 Mar 1887 5th great-grandson Trimmer, Irene F 1911 6th great-granddaughter Trimmer, John 1749 Grandson Trimmer, Joseph 6th great-grandson Trimmer, Joseph 15 Oct 1893 5th great-grandson Trimmer, Nelly 01 Mar 1898 5th great-granddaughter Trimmer, Sarah Ann 18 May 1891 5th great-granddaughter Trimmer, Sarah E 1858 4th great-granddaughter Trimmer, Vera Mary 1912 6th great-granddaughter Trimmer, William 1672 Self Trimmer, William 1713 Son Wing, George Ernest Abt. 1915 Husband of 6th great-granddaughter Wright, Roy T E Husband of 5th great-granddaughter

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