January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 657 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES-Wednesday, January 29, 1986 The House met at 3 p.m. Capitol as well as Annie's friendly and naut candidate by NASA in January The Chaplain, Rev. James David gracious manner. 1978. I remember going to the Island Ford, D.D., offered the following I'm sure I can speak for all my col­ of Hawaii, Ellison's birthplace, to prayer: leagues when I say that Annie will be inform his mother, Mrs. Mitsue Oni­ As the Nation struggles with the sorely missed. However, I also know zuka, of the great news. Rarely have I sorrow of yesterday and the families that we all wish her well in her much seen such display of jubilation and of the astronauts know the intensity deserved retirement back to Cape Cod pride as at that moment. Mrs. Onizuka of grief and pain, we ask You, O gra­ with her husband Bill. Good luck knew that, for Ellison, this was greater cious God, to hear our prayer. We Annie, and thanks for all your hard than any dream ever imagined. For pray not for easy answers to perplex­ work and dedication on behalf of the years, Ellison had idolized astronauts, ing questions, but we pray that Your U.S. Congress. abiding presence will help heal the and he fancied the thought of some­ hurt and Your spirit will give day being involved in the Space Pro­ strength. We are reminded that we do CHRISTA McAULIFFE gram, in any capacity. not have in this world an abiding city, crews. After 6 more years of training, and will never depart from us. We Mr. GREGG. Mr. Speaker, this is a on January 24, 1985, Ellison saw his pray especially for the families whose period of immense loss for America. In greatest dream come true as he joy has been turned to mourning. New Hampshire, we are stunned, became a member of of the Discovery Bless them and comfort them, and thinking of the lives of the crew, but mission. During the mission Ellison give to each of us a new awareness of especially Christa. was responsible for the primary pay­ Your providence and Your everlasting Concord is a small city; New Hamp­ load activities, which included the de­ grace. In Your name, we pray. Amen. shire is a small State. A community ployment of a modified inertial upper really. Christa was our friend, our stage CIUSJ. And, with the completion THE JOURNAL neighbor, and our source of pride. Our of Discovery's 48 orbits of the Earth love goes out to Steve and her chil­ before landing at Kennedy Space The SPEAKER. The Chair has ex­ dren. Center on January 27, Ellison logged a amined the Journal of the last day's Christa represented so many things total of 74 hours in space. proceedings and announces to the that have come to characterize our I was fortunate to have been in at­ House his approval thereof. small State and our great Nation. Her tendance at the launching of that ex­ Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the energy, her enthusiasm. Her belief in Journal stands approved. citing voyage, and with the Onizuka challenging the unknown, her concern family and a host of well-wishers, I for others, especially for students. She shared in the historic moment. MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE was extraordinary and yet typical of For the people of Hawaii, and espe­ A message from the Senate by Mr. our land and our history. A mother, a cially for the children, Ellison became Sparrow, one of its clerks, announced wife, a teacher, a seeker of the future. a hero. He was the first Hawaiian as­ that the Senate had passed without We will miss her entirely, but we will tronaut in the history of the Space amendment a concurrent resolution of not forget those qualities and dreams Program, and in this role, he inspired the House of the following title: which she and the rest of the shuttle and motivated all. Ellison hardly gave H. Con. Res. 274. Concurrent resolution crew so personified. She lived as our up a chance to speak of his experi­ providing for a joint session of Congress to neighbor, and yet she defines our ences, and often took time to visit receive a message from the President on the Nation. local schools. State of the Union. Last September, Ellison honored me IN HONOR OF A GREAT SPACE by appearing on my monthly talk RETIREMENT OF ANN CATON PIONEER, LT. COL. ELLISON S. show. We talked of his first mission, minute and to revise and extend his had even imagined it would be. I recall Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, it is remarks.) asking him if there was a single sensa­ my honor today to announce the re­ Mr. AKAKA. Mr. Speaker, so much tion which he had not experienced in tirement of Ann Caton from the U.S. has already been said, and so eloquent­ simulation exercises. He said that the Capitol Guide Service. Annie has given ly, of yesterday's space shuttle trage­ few seconds at liftoff were the worst. 25 years of dedicated service as a Cap­ dy. Nevertheless, I would like to share The crackling, crunching sound result­ itol tour guide, sharing with people a few thoughts with you this morning, ing from those thousands and thou­ from all over the country and the for Challenger's loss, a major tragedy sands of pounds of rocket force left world her knowledge and experience for our country, is a personal one for him with the feeling that the entire of our Nation's legislative branch of me. A man I am honored to have vessel was about to cave in. That was Government. During her 25 years on known, Lt. Col. Ellison S. Onizuka, the worst part. Capitol Hill approximately 80 million was one of the seven who so valiantly This weekend, at Ellison's invitation, people have visited the Capitol, many gave their lives for the benefit of our I planned to go to Houston to share in of whom are my own constituents and country and the world. homecoming festivities. Friends and have personally conveyed to me how I was yet a newcomer to Congress family were to arrive from distant much they enjoyed their tour of the when Ellison was selected as an astro- Hawaii, laden with foods that Ellison

0 This symbol represents the time of day during the House proceedings, e.g., 0 1407 is 2:07 p.m. Matter set in this typeface indicates words inserted or appended, rather than spoken, by a Member of the House on the floor. 658 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 so loved, in honor of his triumphant Mr. LEVINE of California. Mr. guerrillas, he strongly deserves our full sup­ return. Speaker, our Nation suffered a devas­ port. We shall not share in such festivities tating and tragic loss yesterday. Words together. Instead, with Ellison's death, cannot express the sorrow that I know we shall share a deep sense of loss. I every one of us in this Chamber feel, BENEFITS FOR SURVIVORS OF grieve for Ellison, and my thoughts and every one of us in this country NEWFOUNDLAND AIR CRASH are with his wife, Lorna, his children, feel. to the light which Ellison has left us. pounded if we were to listen to those Mr. MONTGOMERY. Mr. Speaker, This great space pioneer, who so will­ inevitable voices of timidity and fear today I would like to speak of another ingly lived his lifelong dream, is a who call for an end to our manned tragedy. I want to update my col­ symbol of perseverance and strength. space program. If we were to allow the leagues on the status of GI life insur­ Ellison shall forever live in our hearts deaths of these seven American heroes ance payments to survivors of the and our memories. We do him justice to weaken our commitment to explor­ only through our actions and through service men and women killed Decem­ ing outer space, they surely would ber 12 in the Newfoundland plane our continued support of the work have died in vain. which he so loved. Ellison best exhibit­ crash. Mr. Speaker, now is the time to re­ I have been advised that all but one ed his commitment when he said, member President John F. Kennedy's "There are a lot of outcomes of these of the 248 servicemembers who died words in his 1961 State of the Union were covered by this insurance. For projects which will benefit both our Address when he said: society and the rest of the world." some reason, that individual soldier Now it is time for a great new American had declined, in writing, to participate Let us never forget this great man. enterprise which may hold the key to our But, more importantly, let us never future on Earth. The eyes of the world now in the insurance program. forget what he truly valued, the bet­ look into space to the Moon and the planets The Veterans' Administration has terment of society and the rest of the beyond. We have vowed that we shall not told me that 180 claims have been ap­ world. It is up to us to ensure that see it governed by a flag of conquest, but by proved, 12 cases are being developed even in his death Ellison's vision lives a banner of freedom and peace. We have and the remaining beneficiaries have on. vowed that we shall not see space filled with not yet returned claim forms. Each weapons of mass destruction; but with in­ claim is being paid the day after re­ struments of knowledge and understanding. ceipt of the application. THE ATTITUDE OF THE Yet the vows of this Nation can only be ful­ In November, you may recall, we SANDINISTA REGIME filled if we are first. passed H.R. 505, which included an in­ doran guerrillas to this tragedy. Radio SPACE SHUTTLE TRAGEDY Mr. DANNEMEYER. Mr. Speaker, Venceremos, the F.M.L.N. radio sta­ eral tax revenues of $500 billion. This casts out of Managua, gave a report Mr. BROOMFIELD. Mr. Speaker, as we, and is 40 percent of the general revenue early this morning on the space shut­ all decent people mourn yesterday's tragic na­ funds. In other words, 40 cents of tle tragedy. I quote: tional loss, I am angry and shocked that every tax-dollar collected will be spent, Given that the Challenger's ostentatious anyone could find joy in the terrible accident. not by this Government, but by its failure represents an overwhelming blow to While our country and the world mourn, the creditors. Moreover, as the Congres­ the U.S. Government's plans to extend the war to outer space and given that two war Communist terrorist rebel radio in El Salvador sional Budget Office projections show, criminals have died aboard the Challenger, stooped to an all time low in expressing its this ratio will rise to 48 cents of every we share the happiness felt by those who "happiness" over this incident. tax-dollar collected in 1990. I wish to reject and condemn the U.S. imperialism It is important to note that this crude and in­ remind the House, Mr. Speaker, that war-mongering policy. sensitive statement was made by a Commu­ under the gold standard, debt-servic­ That represents the attitude we face nist umbrella group which claims to represent ing typically cost 3 cents of the tax­ with the Salvadoran guerrillas and the peace and the Salvadoran people. How could dollar collected. Sandinista regime in Managua guiding any group which claims national aspirations Gramm-Rudman, for all its massive them. dare to vilify the names of dedicated men and spending cuts, will not be able to women who gave their lives in the exploration change this outrageous ratio substan­ of space tially, because no substantial reduc­ OUR GREAT HEROES DID NOT It is also important to compare this Commu­ tion in the cost of debt-servicing is en­ DIE IN VAIN nist guerrilla group, which aspires to represent visaged. Unless something more imagi­ lions of dollars of profits from the de­ THE SPACE SHUTI'LE layed funds, are now demanding a va­ Mr. NELSON of Florida. Mr. Speak­ riety of new powers as a quid pro quo of title 6 (f) and (i) of rule X, and without ob­ D 1539 jection, the Chair appoints the gentle­ 10, United States Code, the Chair ap­ man from South Carolina [Mr. points as members of the Board of IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE SPENCE] as an additional minority Visitors to the U.S. Air Force Academy Accordingly the House resolved member of the Select Committee on the following Members of the House: itself into the Committee of the Aging. Mr. DICKS of Washington; Whole House on the State of the There was no objection. Mr. WIRTH of ; Union for the consideration of the bill Mr. KRAMER of Colorado; and , simply shut down when its people would vote best. administrators. Of course, the cost of elec­ they felt like it. Imagine the resulting chal­ In other States where they want to tion day itself will increase by many thou­ lenges and litigation when presidential can­ stay open longer, the States do so, and sands of dollars to pay election personnel didates find out that the polls did not stay seem to get along with it very well. In and those indirectly involved such as custo­ open until the appropriate hour in some this bill, we are doing social tinkering dial and law enforcement staff. Finally, the cases. with the most precious right of the people of Maine will have to wait until the There will certainly be a financial impact American people, that is, the election wee hours of the night to receive election on our municipalities, already overburdened results through news media reporting while by the loss of revenue sharing and increased franchise. In order to satisfy a few those in the West should have their results costs. I also think it will be difficult to re­ people on the west coast, we are going by late evening. Confusion, error, cost and cruit poll workers on a weekday evening to to change radically the closing times inconvenience would be the fruits of such a stay any later than they already do. of many of our other States, and in Federal mandated policy. I believe that the only answer to the prob­ some cases, in the extreme cases, A few more comments on the motivation lem of early projections is for the networks which are Indiana and Kentucky, behind this effort. While I agree that the to recognize their responsibilities not to there will be a change in the voting impact of news concerning voting behavior interfere with the sanctity of the voting hours by as many as 2 to 3 hours. in the East affects the decision of many booth and stop doing it. voters in the West about whether to vote, I Thanks again for your efforts on behalf of The CHAIRMAN. The time of the do not believe that this information should those of us out here in the trenches. gentleman from Minnesota CMr. FREN­ be restricted. Advocates of such restrictions Best wishes. ZEL] has expired. apparently believe that the western voters Sincerely, Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. will not make the "right" decision about JAMES H. DOUGLAS, Chairman, I yield 2 minutes additional whether to vote, go fishing or read a good Secretary of State. to the gentleman from Minnesota. book. I personally resent the Government, Mr. FRENZEL. I thank the gentle­ or a "voluntary'" effort by the great com­ MAY 21, 1985. man for yielding further. munication companies, withholding infor­ Hon. JAMES M. JEFFORDS, mation on any matters except on a true na­ House of Representatives, Mr. Chairman, as I was saying, the tional security basis. Rayburn House Office Building, voting hours will be increased by as There is a "foot-in-the-door" aspect of Washington, DC. many as 2 to 3 hours, 2 hours in Ala­ this that also appears dangerous to me. The DEAR JIM: The papers lead me to believe bama, Georgia, South Carolina, Vir­ highly scientific and accurate national that several proposals to establish uniform ginia, Vermont, Florida, and Mississip­ public opinion polls are probably a better polling hours throughout the country are pi; increasing by 1 hour in another 15 source about the outcome of an election now being considered with some seriousness or so States. Those States did not than are the disjointed "projections" of the by the Election Subcommittee of the House want to have that burden laid on national television networks. Will these Administration Committee. I feel compelled polls also be blacked out days or weeks to write you my personal opinion of such them. They are right. before an election? proposals. When we are in the full House, Mr. Even more outrageous, these reports, pro­ The problem the legislation seeks to Chairman, I shall ask to make a part jections or polling results are only educated remedy is very serious. The major television of this RECORD letters which I have, opinions about the results of an election. networks consistently announce their pro­ and a resolution, from a large number Are we going to restrict not only informa­ jections of Federal elections, based on exit of State election officials asking that tion but opinion as well? polls and other statistical data, in advance the Congress not go through with this In summary, this attempt to manage of the closing hours of West Coast States, in folly, not force this way of voting public information is misguided, unneces­ many cases causing people who would other­ sary, an infringement on the citizens right wise exercise the voting franchise to tum down their throats, not amend State to know and an undue burden on election around in their cars and return home rather laws at the whimsey of Congress. administration in the East. than participate in an election already de­ Those letters and resolution follow: Sincerely, termined by other voters. Nothing kills the STATE OF MAINE, JAMES S. HENDERSON, incentive to vote faster than the thought DEPARTMENT OF STATE, Deputy Secretary of State. that your vote won't make any difference. Augusta, ME, January 24, 1986. The uniform polling hour proposals would Hon. BILL FRENZEL, December 26, 1985. establish 11:00 p.m., 10:00 p.m. or perhaps Longworth Building, Hon. BILL FRENZEL, 9:00 p.m. on Sundays, as the hours polls Washington, DC. U.S. Representative, House of Representa­ would close in the East. DEAR REPRESENTATIVE FRENZEL: Good luck tives, 1026 Longworth Building, Wash­ Imagine the impact of this proposal on in your attempt to derail H.R. 3525. ington, DC. Vermont elections. Poll workers would be Uniform poll closing times, in my opinion, DEAR MR. FRENZEL: Thank you for your forced to delay the process of beginning to are a bad idea and are responding to an eli­ letter of December 19. Like you, I strongly count ballots from the present 7:00 p.m. to test view of what is "good for the people". oppose H.R. 3525, the Uniform Poll Closing the hour they normally complete the proc­ In addition, it would impose a hardship in Bill. I appreciate your leadership in trying ess today. Sunrise will become a normal part terms of our polling hours, especially. if to prevent its enactment. of the experience of working at the polls; indeed we would have to remain open until I'm enclosing the testimony I submitted to exhaustion and resulting bad counting pro­ late in the evening. the Subcommittee and a copy of my letter cedures will become the standard; recounts Our current law requires polls to be closed to Congressman Jeffords, which outlines and contests will increase many fold. As at 8 p.m. A delay in this time by one hour some of my concerns. most towns offer a modest compensation to will have several unfortunate consequences. Vermont relies principally on paper bal­ their election workers, the cost to our mu­ First, it will create different closing times lots, and it's often well after midnight nicipalities will increase. for Federal and nonfederal elections. Essen· before some of the larger towns complete The proposal doesn't make sense to a tially this will mean that local elections and their counting on election night. An extra state like Vermont where more than three- 666 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 quarters of all voters vote by paper ballot, has been stretched to the limit to pay for close at 6:00 p.m. After considerable study, where all but a dozen communities need to necessary local services such as education, the Task Force recommended an extension recruit election workers to sort and count longer hours of voting will force municipali­ of one hour to the closing time or 7:00 p.m. paper ballots, often into the wee hours of ties to pay more for poll workers, thus To be more specific, Mississippi, has ap­ the morning. straining local resources even further. proximately 49 counties utilizing paper bal­ I have no objection philosophically to a The problem that gives rise to the propos­ lots. After the polls close in these counties, uniform poll closing hour. Our Nation has al to establish uniform polling hours origi­ poll workers must hand tally the votes. changed dramatically since the framers of ·nates with the news media, principally the They are paid $40 per day for their services. our constitution first designed the demo­ national news networks. It is their competi­ The consensus of the Task Force was not to cratic system where all voters were on the tion to be first with the announcement of recommend that the polls remain open East Coast and news traveled very slowly. who has won an election that has made vic­ longer than twelve hours. Certainly, an in­ The problem with this concept is its practi­ tims of voters in the West and that now crease in polling hours would necessitate a cal effect on Vermont. I would have no ob­ threatens to disturb the well-oiled election salary increase. jection if all polls in America closed at 7:00 process we have developed in other parts of Also for your information, Mississippi is p.m. Eastern Standard time, but I realize the country through this ill-advised federal­ governed by the provisions of the Voting that this would have an obvious undesirable ization of the election process. Rights Act. The United States Justice De­ effect out West. Article I, Section 4 of the Constitution of partment will have to approve any change I've served for several years on the com­ the United States guarantees the right of to amend our present election statutes. mittee for the National Association of Sec­ the states to prescribe the times, places and In conclusion, thank you for giving me the retaries of State which has considered a va­ manner of holding elections for Senators chance to respond to this matter. I am riety of aspects of this problem. We've met and Representatives. While that section re­ hopeful that my letter will give you insight several times with network executives and serves a residual right of Congress to make into the voting procedures of this State. I have, very frankly, failed to arrive at a mu­ or alter such regulations, it seems clear that will follow with interest the progress of this tually satisfactory approach. I personally the purpose of this residual right was to re­ Bill. continue to believe that the best solution to serve to the federal government "a right to Sincerely, the problem is voluntary restraint on the interpose. whenever extraordinary circum­ NANCY SULSER, part of the national networks. stances might render that interposition nec­ Special Projects Officer. A proposal now pending before the House essary to its safety." Hamilton, Federalist would have a serious adverse effect on the 59. DECEMBER 31, 1985. procedures for conducting elections in Ver­ Here is no national emergency caused by Hon. BILL FRENZEL, mont, and I hope you will seek a more satis­ the states, but a problem caused by the Longworth Building, factory solution. media. Here is a bitter medicine being Washington, DC. Thank you and best wishes. forced down the throats of the states, when DEAR CONGRESSMAN FRENZEL: I appreciate Sincerely, the disease is manifest in the behavior of your letter of December 19, 1985 concerning JAMES H. DOUGLAS. television reporters. The medicine is worse uniform poll closing in Presidential Elec­ than bitter: it may well cause as great harm tions. I, too, have concerns with this legisla­ UNIFORM POLLING HOURS TESTIMONY OF to existing election systems as the ill it tion since it is an intrusion into the state's HON. JAMES H. DOUGLAS, VERMONT SECRE­ seeks to cure. ability to run elections. TARY OF STATE BEFORE THE U.S. HOUSE SUB­ What price must we pay to protect the Currently in Virginia, polls open at 6:00 COMMITI'EE ON ELECTIONS award given to the network that breaks the a.m. and close at 7:00 p.m. The officers of The question of how to prevent the news news first? elections are already working very long of election results from affecting the results We do not object to solutions to the prob­ hours and extending the close of the polls of elections is one that troubles election of­ lem which leave our system intact. We do by two hours I believe is an undue hardship. ficials across this country. While the State object to proposals which will set the clos­ In many cases it means the results would of Vermont has not seen the loss of turnout ing hours of polls in the East at hours later not be complete until well after midnight. due to early reporting of returns that Wash­ or earlier than 7:00 p.m. Earlier closing That, I am afraid, would lead to many more ington and California have, we all suffer hours will disenfranchise working people errors in the tabulation of results. when elections are affected by factors other who traditionally vote on the way home As to changes in state law, I am not sure than the strength of candidates and their from their place of business. Later closing how Virginia's General Assembly will ad­ positions on the issues. The State of Ver­ hours will affect the reliability of the vote dress the additional hours. They have sever­ mont does have a direct interest, however, counting process. al options: in the matter of uniform polling hours, if We can only hope that Congress will make 1. Do nothing and require the officers to the "solution" offered to solve a national no precipitous decisions until all alterna­ serve longer hours. problem interferes with the conduct of elec­ tives have been explored and all the conse­ 2. Open polls later in the morning. tions in the Green Mountain State. quences of their actions have been consid­ 3. Develop shifts for officers to serve Vermont elections are conducted princi­ ered. Elections are delicate mechanisms, which would require additional personnel. pally by volunteers. These devoted citizens easily damaged by slight changes in routine. If I can answer further questions or assist usually work from 15 to 20 hours on election Please remember this, before making the you in any other way in this matter, please day, checking voters in, explaining the lives of dedicated election officials more dif­ contact me. voting process, and counting votes from ficult by a uniform poll closing bill such as Sincerely, paper ballots by hand until the small hours that proposed by Mr. Guarini. SUSAN H. FITZ-HUGH, of the morning. Fully three-quarters of Ver­ Thank you. Secretary. mont voters still use paper ballots; only a dozen cities and towns have voting ma­ JANUARY 8, 1986. DECEMBER 27, 1985. chines, where the tabulating can be done Hon. BILL FRENZEL, Hon. BILL FRENZEL, quickly. All polls now close in Vermont at Longworth Building, U.S. House of Representatives, 7:00 p.m., but most election officials seldom Washington, DC. Washington, DC. finish before midnight, given the need for DEAR CONGRESSMAN FRENZEL: I read with DEAR CONGRESSMAN FRENZEL: Thank you ensuring an accurate tallying of checklists, interest your letter concerning H.R. 3525, for your letter of December 19, 1985, regard­ count of votes, and completion of returns. the Uniform Poll Closing Bill. I wish to ing H.R. 3525, the Uniform Poll Closing Bill. Our experience shows that the longer the state that while I agree with the theory of I agree with your evaluation of the bill time needed for winding up the election, the uniform closing so as not to discourage and the lack of effect it will have on in­ more likely we will find errors and -mistakes voting, some provisions of this Bill would creased voter participation. Utah's polls are in the final outcome. This is not intended to pose problems in Mississippi. presently open from 7:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. be a negative reflection on Vermont poll­ In June of 1984, Dick Molpus, the Secre­ on election day. H.R. 3525 would close our workers, but rather a realistic assessment of tary of State, appointed a twenty-five polls one hour earlier, which would have a the limits of human stamina. Election offi­ member Task Force to study and evaluate greater negative impact on voter participa­ cials do an incredible job, with very few the present election laws. As a result, an tion than would any media information re­ problems, but if you saddle them with two election bill will be introduced during the garding vote trends from the east. or three more hours of work before the 1986 Legislative session calling for a compre­ Election procedure has traditionally been polls close, you are asking the impossible hensive revision of these statutes. One of a state responsibility. Utah has a history of from them. the recommendations of the Task Force was being one of the leaders in voter participa­ Consider also the fiscal impact on cities the extension of polling hours. At the tion. Our elections have also been fair and and towns. At a time when the property tax present time, the polls open at 7:00 a.m. and lacking in fraud. We feel that H.R. 3525 January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 667 would be an unnecessary infringement on some areas to recruit additional poll work­ tween television networks as keen as it is­ our right and responsibility to conduct elec­ ers. and exit polling techniques becoming in­ tions in a way that provides the greatest 3. Would any of the proposals require dif­ creasingly more sophisticated-it is probable benefit to our people. ferent locations for precinct polling places? that the contest to see who can call the elec­ We hope that when this bill is brought up Possibly so, but not to any great extent tion first would continue even with uniform for discussion it will be soundly defeated. with the exception of Sunday voting. We national polling hours and a nonbinding Sincerely, use many churches in South Carolina as agreement between the networks in place. DAVE HANSEN, voting places and they would be unavailable At a minimum, the legislation should refer­ Deputy Lieutenant Governor. on Sundays. ence the agreements with the networks and 4. Based on your own local circumstances, automatically release all states from uni­ OCTOBER 25, 1985. would you recommend that Congress pass form hours if and when the networks vio­ Hon. BILL FRENZEL, any of the following bills? late the agreement. Hon. BILL THOMAS, A. Twenty-four hour voting: Yes-No X. In summary, while I am anxious to help Committee on House Administration, B. Sunday voting: Yes-No X. Washington, DC. C. Opening and closing times set by Feder­ work toward a solution to the problem pre­ DEAR REPRESENTATIVES FRENZEL AND al Election Commission: Yes-No X. sented by the early projection of presiden­ THOMAS: Thank you for the opportunity to D. Uniform closing times-1. What hour tial election results, I feel that alternative comment on election proposals currently would be best for you?-p.m.: Yes-No X. solutions to the problem should be ex­ being considered by the Subcommittee on Name: James B. Ellisor. plored. Two possible solutions that would Elections of the House Administration Com­ State: South Carolina. not be disruptive to polling hours currently mittee. I am sorry for the delay in answer­ in place across the country would be a fed­ ing your inquiry; however, I have been in MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF STATE, eral prohibition enforced by the Federal the hospital and only recently returned to SECRETARY OF STATE, Communications Commission against the my office. Lansing, MI, October 10, 1985. broadcast of election returns before 10 or 11 Enclosed is the completed questionaire Hon. BILL FRENZEL, p.m. or a requirement that television net­ which you requested comments concerning. Hon. BILL THOMAS, works blackout projections in a time zone In addition, based upon my experience in Congress of the United States, House of Rep­ until the polls close in the region. elections as director of the State Election resentatives, Washington, DC. I thank you for giving me the opportunity Commission for the past 20 years, I should DEAR CONGRESSMEN FRENZEL AND THOMAS: to offer my comments on this issue. like to make a suggestion to your committee Secretary of State Richard Austin is con­ for a solution to the problem we are experi­ cerned with the effect of the early release Sincerely, encing in the times the polls close on the and projection of presidential election re­ CHRISTOPHER M. THOMAS, east coast in presidential and vice presiden­ turns and believes that this significant prob­ Director of Elections. tial elections. It would cause a great deal of lem rightfully deserves the attention of the disruption, additional work and expenses to Congress. Mr. Austin has asked me to the states on the east coast to require them convey to you his concerns on this issue and QUESTIONNAIRE to work additional hours on election day or on the legislative proposals now being con­ to change the voting hours to open later sidered. Please complete and return to: Hon. Bill and close later in the election day although I have three concerns with the proposed Frenzel and Hon. Bill Thomas, Committee the actual working hours are not increased. uniform poll closing changes that would on House Administration, H-326, The Cap­ It would seem to me that a more workable result in Michigan from the legislation en­ itol, Washington, D.C. 20515 solution to this problem would be a federal closed with your letter. precinct inspectors be appointed to each officials in the east to maintain the same additional cost burden could not be justified precinct. Punch card voting systems require voting hours; to go ahead and begin count­ unless it could be demonstrated that the four <4> precinct inspectors. Generally, pre­ ing the ballots for president and vice presi­ two or three hour polling period extension cinct inspectors are paid between $50-$80 dent; but it would prevent them, by law, would result in an increase in voter turnout per day. from publicly disclosing these results to levels. Secondly, by shifting the opening of 2. Would any of the bill require additional anyone, including the media, until such Michigan's polls to 8 a.m., one of the busiest poll workers in your state? If yes, approxi­ time as the polls close in all other States. voting hours in the state would be lost <7 mately how many more? Would there be a If you or your committee would like to dis­ a.m. to 8 a.m.). Finally, an 11: p.m. poll clos­ problem to recruit the additional poll work­ cuss this matter with me further, I would be ing would mean that the majority of Michi­ ers? happy to meet with you. gan's percinct workers would not complete H.R. 348, H.R. 622, H.R. 640, and H.R. Yours very truly, their end-of-day duties until 1 a.m. and in 1759 will require additional precinct inspec­ JAMES B. ELLISOR, some cases, 2 a.m. I view this as an extreme­ Executive Director. ly late hour for precinct workers who have tors. The election work day now is 6:30 a.m. reported for duty at 6:30 a.m. During the to midnight. Any additional time require­ QUESTIONNAIRE final hours of the day, when highly detailed ment will require a split shift-doubling the Please complete and return to: Hon. Bill precinct reports must be completed, fatique number of workers. it would not be feasible Frenzel and Hon. Bill Thomas, Committee would be great-increasing the chance for to pay less than $50 even on a split shift and on House Administration, H-326 The Cap­ inaccuracies in the reports. Clearly a second still recruit sufficient number of workers. itol, Washington, D.C. 20515 shift of precinct workers would have to be Our cost would double. Recruitment is a 1. Please list the number of officials re­ brought in to cover the latter half of an 18 problem now and these bills would definite­ quired by state law to work in each precinct to 19 hour day. I question whether many of ly increase the problem. on election day. What is the amount of com­ our local clerks are prepared to cope with a 3. Would any of the proposals require dif­ pensation for each official? sudden doubling of their precinct staffing ferent locations for precinct polling places? Three officials for each 500 registered needs, a significant increase in costs and No. voters or portion thereof in each precinct. training and a more difficult recruiting task. 4. Based on your own local circumstances, For example, if there are 650 registered A further concern is that the proposed would you recommend that Congress pass voters in a precinct, the law requires six of­ legislation does not compel the media to any of the following bills? ficials. Each official receives a minimum of withhold election projections until the polls A. Twenty-four hour voting: Yes-; No X. $50 for the election. are closed. While I understand that most of B. Sunday voting: Yes-; No X. 2. Would any of the bill require additional the networks have agreed to withhold pro­ jections as long as all of the networks C. Opening and closing times set by Feder­ poll workers in your state? If yes, approxi­ al Election Commission: Yes-; No X. mately how many more. Would there be a adhere to the agreement, the recent and problem to recruit the additional poll work­ continuing proliferation of new networks D. Uniform closing times-1. What hour would be best for you? 9 p.m. ers? reduces the likelihood Longer hours would require additional that an agreement of this sort would work Name: Christopher M. Thomas. poll workers and it would be difficult in in actual practice. With the competition be- State: Michigan. 668 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 STATE OF MISSOURI, my opinion, adjusting those election times STATE OF TExAs, OFFICE OF SECRETARY OF STATE, to accomodate federal elections sharing only SECRETARY OF STATE, Jefferson City, MO, January 3, 1986. certain election dates would be a needless Austin, Texas, October 1, 1985. Hon. BILL FRENZEL, and confusing intrusion into the process of Hon. BILL FRENZEL, Member of Congress, voting. Hon. BILL THOMAS, Longworth Building, Washington, DC. As you know, a large percentage of the Congress of the United States, House of Rep­ DEAR CONGRESSMAN FRENZEL. Thank you public has not been voting. In Missouri, resentatives, Washington, DC. for your letter of December 19 updating me election authorities have launched various DEAR CONGRESSMEN FRENZEL AND THOMAS: on the status of the House vote on H.R. efforts to reduce voter apathy and encour­ Enclosed is my reponse to your recent ques­ 3525. As you know, I have gone on record in tionnaire. I hope this information is helpful. opposition to Uniform Poll Closing. Primari­ age the electorate to vote. With uniform poll closing, we would be forced to make a Sincerely, ly, I do not believe it should be the role of MYRA. A. McDANIEL, the federal government to set a closing time decision: Would we change polling times on all elections to create a uniform system or Secretary of State, for elections involving state and local as well State of Texas. as federal candidates. I have several other would we simply have "federal election voting times" for those elections held in No­ points of concern which I will outline for 1. Section 32.031 of the Texas Election you. For your convenience, I have also en­ vember of even-numbered years and "state and local election voting times" for the Code requires the appointment of a presid­ closed a letter I sent to members of the ing judge and an alternate for each precinct. House Elections Subcommittee and the gr~at majority of elections? Either way, I Senate Rules Committee, as well as mem­ think we would confuse voters and possibly In addition, House Bill 123 of the 69th Leg­ bers of the Missouri delegation, in October. discourage some we have worked hard to in­ islature requires the presiding judge to ap­ Your letter mentions cost as a concern volve because polling hours could be incon­ point at least one clerk. Since the alterna­ when considering uniform poll closing. Cer­ sistent. tive judge may serve as a clerk, the theoreti­ tainly, cost is a major concern. Additional Secondly, I feel uniform poll closing cal minimum is two workers per polling ~ime at the polls means, at the very least, would be a costly proposition. Each addi­ place. As a practical matter, however, only mcreasing costs in terms of pay to poll­ tional hour we add to the voting day adds the smallest precincts could function with work~rs. But, because of pollworker fatigue, thousands of dollars to local election costs. the minimum staff. Almost every precinct, we might be forced to add workers, which These costs are, of course, borne by local ju­ especially in the general election, employs would certainly add to the expense. Recruit­ risdictions, many of which are ill-equipped well in excess of this minimum. ment of pollworkers would most likely be to shoulder any more financial burden. The Section 32.091 of the Texas Election Code made more difficult with the longer hours. recruitment of local "election judges" is al­ provides for compensation to be set by the And, we must bear in mind that local Juris­ ready difficult in Missouri. Longer hours commisisoners of each county up to a maxi­ dictions must pay these added costs. I don't would almost certainly make a difficult situ­ mum compensation of $5.00 per hour. In the need to tell you that many of these jurisdic­ general election, this maximum is almost tions cannot shoulder any more financial ation worse. Finally, I am not enthusiastic about the universally the amount actually paid. burden. 2. Any bill which extends the hours I think uniform poll closing, and certainly re-structuring of the local election hours in response to new techniques used by the na­ during which the polls are open will result the bill now being considered is confusing to in the need to compensate judges and clerks voters. We could conceivably have "national tional news media. The election process is, election voting times" and "non-national after all, public business. Certainly, we rec­ during the extra hours. However, extra per­ election voting times," leaving the voter to ognize the important functions of the news sonnel would not be necessary. A more im­ figure out when he can exercise his right to media, and I agree that they must have portant consideration may be the reluctance vote based on what's on the ballot. I am also proper access for coverage. But I do not be­ of some poll workers to work very late told the extension of Daylight Savings Time lieve a national uniform poll closing is an hours. Many poll workers are women and to accommodate the uniform poll closing appropriate solution to the problems most of the more than 6,000 polling places could also have a substantial negative brought on by early projections and the in Texas are located in urban areas. It is impact on our transportation systems. broadcasting of polling results. reasonable to expect that, since working ex· Finally, I have serious questions about I believe that changing our national tended hours at the polls would require · changing our national system of elections system of elections in response to pledges of them to be out several hours after dark, this based on what the national news media may the current managing executives of the na­ might discourage otherwise interested work­ or may not do. While the top executives tional news networks causes more problems ers from volunteering to serve. It is always n~w in control may pledge one thing, they than it solves. Two one-sided Presidential difficult to recruit polling place workers, might not hold their current positions in elections combined with the advent of and this may add to the difficulty. 1988. The news executives at that time 3. Polling places are often located in pri­ could have completely different thoughts "exit" polling and sampling have made the problem of early projections appear to be vately owned buildings. In some cases, on election coverage. owners may consider the later closing time Congressman, I appreciate your interest in greater than it probably will turn out to be. Information technology changes, projec­ in deciding whether to permit use of their my opinion on this matter. If I may be of property for a polling place. The extent of further assistance to you as you continue tions based on demographic data become more refined, policy makers for the national such a problem, if any, is not possible to as­ your deliberations, don't hesitate to contact certain. me. networks change in ways that require us to Sincere regards, make decisions based on circumstances that 4.A.No. ROY BLUNT, will probably change by the next election. 4.B. No. Since many polling places are now Secretary of State. I think the idea of federally mandated located in churches, this would result in ex· uniform poll closing creates more problems treme difficulty in locating polling places. STATE OF MISSOURI, than it solves and in all probability will not 4.C.No. OFFICE OF SECRETARY OF STATE, solve the problem that occurred in 1980 and 4.D. No. The real problem is due to the ef­ Jefferson City, MO, October 10, 1985. 1984. As Secretary of State of Missouri, I ficiency of exit polling and the geographical DEAR --: As Missouri's Secretary of oppose this legislation. reality of multiple time zones. Results of State, I would like to officially voice my op­ I would be glad to discuss this with you or presidential elections will remain predict­ position to federally mandated uniform poll any member of your staff at any time. able before the polls are closed unless the closing. I have several reasons for taking Respectively submitted, press practices restraint in reporting the re­ this position and will highlight them in this ROY BLUNT, sults of exit polls. letter. Secretary of State. Uniform poll closing is unlikely to change First, I do not believe it should be the role the voting habits of the public. Most people of the federal government to set a uniform in the east will have voted before those in closing time for elections that involve state the west regardless of the voting hours, and and local, as well as federal candidates. Cur­ the results of the exit polls will have a dis­ rently, states have varied polling hours in proportionate effect ...... 10,115 Faye Fleming ...... 9,712 Sincerely, 1978-Congress-Third District (33 counties) KEN HECHLER, Recounts are expensive, with those falling Secretary of State. Registered...... 227,182 within the statutory mandate of one per­ Voter turnout...... 151,636 cent or less of the highest vote cast for a OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE, ...... 69,669 candidate for that office, paid for by the SPRINGFIELD, IL, Harold L. McCormick 69,303 state and counties involved. Colorado law January 17, 1986. 1978-State Representative-65th District­ provides for a 100 foot limit on prohibition Hon. BILL FRENZEL, (5 counties) of electioneering or election-related activi­ Member of Congress, 1026 Longworth Build­ Registered...... 18,841 ties except that of the conduct of the elec­ ing, Voter turnout ...... 13,951 tion. ...... 6,678 Colorado statute 1-13-712(2) and 1-13-718 DEAR CONGRESSMAN FRENZEL: Thank you Elizabeth G. Sharp ...... 6,669 provide for protection against disclosure of for your letter of December 19 regarding votes and release of information concerning the pending Uniform Poll Closing Bill. I 1978-State Senator-34th District-f5 the count. These provisions have worked ef­ fully agree with the general thrust of your counties) fectively for a number of elections, with remarks that the Congress should stay out Registered ...... 31,802 problems resolved quickly and efficiently. of the business of running elections, which Voter turnout ...... 22,448 I would encourage other states to adopt always has been, and should remain, the re­ Ken Clark ...... 10,532 similar statutes since exit polling in our sponsibility of the states. The logic is par­ Jim Rizzuto ...... 10,506 state is used only from 7:00 PM until re­ ticularly peculiar in this legislative develop­ 1980-U.S. Senator turns come in. It affects no votes since the ment. The proponents of H.R. 3525 are polls are closed. saying, in effect, that because the television Registered ...... 1.434,571 To adopt federal legislation, changing networks broadcast their election coverage Voter turnout ...... 1.225,549 time factors will not solve the problem of in a manner objectionable to the Congress, Mary Estill Buchanan ...... 571,295 exit polling from which the projections are the federal government should take over Gary Hart ...... 590,501 made. It may add confusion for those of us the conduct of elections in presidential elec­ 1980-State Senator-24th District-fl administering elections in adjacent time tion years. county) zones. If exit polling projections continue Please understand that these are my per­ Registered ...... 50,621 being broadcast before poll closing times, we sonal opinions, and not those of an elections Voter turnout...... 42,235 may feel the effect of lower tum-out anb in­ administrator. Since 1974, the conduct of S. G. "Sandy" Arnold ...... 19,407 creased recount costs. elections in Illinois has been under the ju­ Ron Stewart ...... 19,910 Sincerely, risdiction of the State Board of Elections, NATALIE MEYER, 1020 South Spring Street, Springfield, Illi­ 1980-State Representative-13th District- Secretary of State. nois 62708. If you are seeking a more expert (1 county) point of view, I recommend that you consult Registered...... 20,826 ELECTIONS the Board. However, I thank you for this Voter turnout...... 18,409 1-6-202.-Notice of general or congression­ opportunity to present my views. Jerry Kopel ...... 8,629 al vacancy election by secretary of state. Sincerely, Paul Swalm ...... 8,439 PART 3.-REGISTRATION BOOKS JIM EDGAR, 1982-State Representative-9th District-f2 Secretary of State. counties) 1-6-301.-0riginal registration book to be used at the polls. STATE OF COLORADO, Registered ...... 27,273 1-6-302.-Computer lists may be used in DEPARTMENT OF STATE, Voter turnout ...... 19,769 lieu of registration books. Norma Edelman ...... 9,189 Denver, CO, January 7, 1986. PART 4.-BALLOTS Hon. ToM FRENZEL, Ruth Pendergast ...... 9,125 House of Representatives, 1982-State Representative-11th District- 1-6-401.-Primary election ballots. 1026 Longworth Building, f 1 county) 1-6-402.-Ballots for general and congres­ sional vacancy elections. Washington, DC. Registered ...... 29,719 DEAR CONGRESSMAN FRENZEL: Thank you 1-6-403.-Arrangement of names on bal­ Voter turnout...... 20,528 lots for nonmachine voting in general or for contacting me concerning H.R. 3525, the Charles Brown ...... 9,841 Uniform Poll Closing bill. I had already congressional vacancy elections. written the Colorado delegation and am en­ Greg Rogers ...... 9,726 1-6-404.-Arrangement of names on closing copies of the responses received to 1982-State Representative-31st District- voting machine ballot in general elections­ date. ( 3 counties) testing of machines. My concerns as stated to them are first Registered...... 21,238 1-6-405.-Ballots-electronic voting. that the problem of early projections and Voter turnout ...... 14,340 1-6-406.-Single cross mark for party slate predictions is not resolved by this proposal. Jim Chaplin ...... 6,837 not permitted. Second, that this is an intrusion into the Faye Fleming ...... 6,858 1-6-407.-Printing and distribution of bal- conduct of elections by the states. Let me lots. 1982-State Representative-36th District- 1-6-408.-Substitute ballots. explain further. The proposed legislation (1 county) speaks only to presidential election years, 1-6-409.-Correction of errors. yet federal offices are on the general elec­ Registered...... 19,061 1-6-410.-Sample ballots. tion ballot every two years and projections Voter turnout...... 12,633 PART 5.-POLLING PLACE SUPPLIES AND are made on U.S. Senate and House of Rep­ Annabelle M. Dunning ...... 6,052 EQUIPMENT Bev Scherling ...... 5,895 resentatives polls in those years. Early pro­ 1-6-501.-Sufficient voting booths, voting jections from polling place interviews may 1982-State Representative-57th District- machines, or elec t:<~ .ic voting equipment. be misleading since voters have indicated to f4 counties) 1-6-502.-Ballot boxes for nonmachine our office that they resent exit polls and do Registered...... 24,843 voting. not answer with a true indication of their Voter turnout...... 16,022 1-6-503.-Arrangement of voting ma­ vote. Scott Mcinnis ...... 7,714 chines or voting booths and ballot boxes. When these early projections are broad­ Kathleen Sullivan ...... 7,701 1-6-504.-Cards of instruction. cast in our state on the voting patterns of 1984-State Representative-11th District- 1-6-505.-Election expenses to be paid by eastern states, the time lapse may indicate county. to the voter that projections have been f2 counties) made from results, not exit polls. In Colora­ Registered ...... 30,783 PART 6--AUTHORIZATION AND USE OF VOTING do, general election races at all levels may Voter turnout ...... 25,628 MACHINES AND ELECTRONIC VOTING SYSTEMS be decided by a few votes. If electors stay Charles Brown ...... 11,460 1-6-601.-Use of voting machines or elec- away from the polls because winners of Dottie Wham ...... 11,895 tronic voting system. January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 671 1-6-602.-Requirements for voting ma­ cincts so established may be divided within upon any elector either to give or refrain chines. the boundaries of the original precinct fol­ from giving his vote at any election provided 1-6-603.-Adoption and payment for lowing the 1988 general election. In estab­ by law or to give or refrain from giving his voting machines. lishing boundaries pursuant to the provi­ vote for any particular person or measure at 1-6-604.-Experimental use. sions of this subsection <6>, the board of any such election. Each such offense is a 1-6-605.-0ther laws apply-paper ballots county commissioners shall take into consid­ misdemeanor, and, upon conviction thereof, permitted for absentee voting. eration natural and man-made boundaries the offender shall be punished as provided 1-6-606.-Election officials not to have in­ that meet the requirements of the United in section 1-13-111. terest in voting machines or electronic States bureau of the census. Source: R &RE, L.80, p.435, §1. voting equipment or devices. Source: R & RE, L. 80, pp. 341, 424 § § 1, l; 1-13-714. Electioneering-removing and 1-6-607.-Elected officials not to handle L. 83, pp. 354, 366 § § 20, l; L. 85, p. 260, § 15. return of ballot. No person shall do any voting machines or electronic voting equip­ 1-6-102. Polling place-designation by electioneering on the day of any election ment or devices. sign. All places established for holding elec­ within any polling place or in any public 1-6-608.-Requirements-electronic voting tions shall be designated by a sign conspicu­ street or room or in any public manner system. ously posted at least ten days before each within one hundred feet of any polling 1-6-609.-Acquisition and use authorized. general, primary, and congressional vacancy place, as publicly posted by the county clerk 1-6-610.-Preparation for use-electronic election. Such sign shall be substantially in and recorder. No person shall remove any voting. the following form: "Polling place for pre­ official ballot from the polling place before 1-6-611.-Requirements-non-punch card cinct no. . . :·. The lettering on such sign the closing of the polls. Any person who vio­ electronic voting system. and the precinct number shall be black on a lates any provision of this section is guilty PART 1.-POLLING PLACES white background, with all letters and nu­ of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction 1-6-101. Establishing precincts and polling merals at least four inches in height. In ad­ thereof, shall be punished as provided in places. The boards of county commis­ dition, such sign shall state the date of the section 1-13-111. sioners of the several counties shall divide next election and the hours the polling Source: R &RE, L.80, p. 435, § 1. their respective counties into as many elec­ place will be open. 1-13-715. Liquor in or near polling place. tion precincts for all general, primary, and Source: R & RE, L. 80, p. 341, § 1. <1 > It is unlawful for any election official or congressional vacancy elections as they may • • • other person to introduce into any polling deem expedient for the convenience of the Source: R & RE, L. 80, p. 434, § 1. place, or to use therein, or to offer to an­ electors of the county and shall designate 1-13-709. Voting in wrong precinct. Any other for use therein, at any time while any the place for each precinct at which elec­ person who, at any election provided by law. election is in progress or the result thereof tions are to be held. The precincts shall be knowingly votes or offers to vote in any is being ascertained by the counting of the numbered consecutively. The precincts and election precinct in which he is not qualified ballots, any intoxicating malt, spirituous, or places of holding elections thus established to vote is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon vinous liquors. shall so remain until consolidated, divided, conviction thereof, shall be punished by a <2> It is unlawful for any officer or board or otherwise changed by each board of fine of not more than two hundred dollars of officers of any county or any municipal­ county commissioners. Changes in the pre­ or by imprisonment in the county jail for ity, whether incorporated under general law cinct boundaries of a county shall be made not more than three months. or by special charter, who may at any time only within the district boundaries of each Source: R & RE, L. 80, p. 434, § 1. be by law charged with the duty of designat­ representative and senatorial district. No 1-13-710. Voting twice-penalty. If any ing polling places for the holding of any polling place shall be located in a room voter votes more than once or, having voted general or congressional election therein, to wherein any intoxicating malt, spirituous, once, offers to vote again or offers to depos­ select therefor a room wherein any intoxi­ or vinous liquors are usually sold for con­ it in the ballot box more than one ballot, he cating malt, spirituous, or vinous liquors are sumption on the premises or in a room is guilty of misdemeanor and, upon convic­ usually sold for consumption on the prem­ within the distance of fifty feet, measured tion thereof, shall be punished as provided ises or a room within the distance of fifty in a direct line, of any place where any such in section 1-13-111. feet, measured in a direct line, of any place liquors are usually sold for consumption on Source: R & RE. L. 80, p. 434, § 1. where any such liquors are usually sold for the premises. 1-13-711. Interference with voter while consumption on the premises. In counties which use paper ballots, voting. Any person who interferes with any (3) Any person who violates any provision the boards of county commissioners shall es­ voter who is inside the immediate voting of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor tablish at least one precinct for every five area or is marking a ballot or operating a and, upon conviction thereof, shall be pun­ hundred active registered electors. voting machine at any election provided by ished as provided in section 1-13-111. In counties which use voting machines law is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon Source: R & RE. L. 80, p. 435, § l; L. 83, p. or electronic voting equipment, the boards conviction thereof, shall be punished as pro­ 358, § 31. of county commissioners shall establish at vided in section 1-13-111. 1-13-716. Destroying, removing, or delay­ least one precinct for every one thousand Source: R & RE. L. 80, p. 434, § 1. ing delivery of election records. Cl) No active registered electors. 1-13-712. Disclosing or identifying vote. person shall willfully destroy, deface, or <2> Changes in the boundaries of precincts Cl> Except as provided in section 1-7-108, no alter any ballot or any election records or or the creation of new precincts shall be voter shall show his ballot after it is pre­ willfully delay the delivery of any such bal­ completed not less than thirty-two days pared for voting to any person in such a way lots or election records, or take, carry away, prior to the precinct caucus day, except in as to reveal its contents. No voter shall conceal, or remove any ballot, ballot box, or cases of precinct changes resulting from place any mark upon his ballot by means of election records from the polling place or changes in county boundaries. which it can be identified as the one voted from the possession of a person authorized <3> Each board of county commissioners by him, and no other mark shall be placed by law to have the custody thereof, or aid, shall change any polling place upon a peti­ on the ballot by any person to identify it counsel, procure, advise, or assist any person tion of a majority of the registered electors after it has been prepared for voting. to do any of the aforesaid acts. residing within a precinct if the request is <2> No person shall endeavor to induce <2> No election official who has undertak­ made at least ninety days prior to the pri­ any voter to show how he marked his ballot. en to deliver the official ballots and election mary election. (3) No election official, watcher, or person records to the county clerk and recorder <4> All changes in precinct boundaries or shall reveal to any other person the name of shall neglect or refuse to do so within the numbering shall be reported immediately by any candidate for whom a voter has voted time prescribed by law or shall fail to ac­ the county clerk and recorder to the secre­ or communicate to another his opinion. cow1t fully for all official ballots and other tary of state, and a corrected precinct map belief, or impression as to how or for whom records in his charge. Informality ih the de­ shall be transmitted to the secretary of a voter has voted. livery of the ballots and election records state as soon as possible after the changes <4> Any person who violates any provision shall not invalidate the vote of any precinct have been effected. of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor if such records are delivered prior to the (5) No election related activities shall be and, upon conviction thereof, shall be pun­ canvassing of the votes by the county board conducted within one ·hundred feet of the ished as provided in section 1-13-111. of canvassers. polls except that of the conduct of the elec­ Source: R & RE, L.80, p.434, §1. (3) Any person who violates any provision tion at the polling place. 1-13-713. Intimidation. It is unlawful for of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor <6> No later than June 1, 1987, each board any person directly or indirectly by himself and, upon conviction thereof, shall be pun­ of county commissioners of the several or by any other person in his behalf, to ished as provided in section 1-13-111. counties shall establish precinct boundaries impede, prevent, or otherwise interfere with Source: R & RE, L. 80, p. 435, § 1. which shall remain in effect until after the the free exercise of the elective franchise of 1-13-717. Penalty for destruction of sup­ general election in 1990; except that pre- any elector or to compel, induce, or prevail plies. Any person who, during an election,

71-059 0-87-22 (Pt. 1) 672 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 willfully defaces, tears down, removes, or de­ frain from voting at such election for any they are responsible for detering large num­ stroys any card of instruction or sample particular person or to induce such elector bers of voters from participating in the elec­ ballot printed or posted for the instruction to go to the polls or remain away from the tion process, they hold such power over us of voters or who, during an election, willful­ polls at such election or on account of such as citizens and as elected officials that we ly removes or destroys any of the supplies elector having voted or refrained from are not able to hold them accountable for or conveniences furnished to enable a voter voting for any particular person or issue or their actions. Rather, we have chosen to to prepare his ballot or willfully hinders the having gone to the polls or remained away sidestep the real issue and settle for a "band voting of others is guilty of a misdemeanor from the polls at such election: or aid" solution with potentially-serious conse­ and, upon conviction thereof, shall be pun­ Cb) To advance or pay, or cause to be paid, quences of its own. ished by a fine of not less than five dollars any money or other valuable thing to or for That is not responsible government, and nor more than one hundred dollars, or by the use of any other person with the intent we cannot support such a measure as that imprisonment in the county jail for not that the same, or any part thereof, shall be sponsored by Representative Swift. We ask more than three months, or by both such used in bribery at any election provided by that you vote no on H.R. 3525 when it fine and imprisonment. law or to knowingly pay, or cause to be paid, comes before this distinguished body for Source: R & RE, L. 80, p. 436, § 1. any money or other valuable thing to any person in discharge or repayment of any consideration. 1-13-718. Release of information concern­ Thank you for your attention. ing count. Any election official, watcher, or money wholly or partially expended in brib­ ery at any such election; or Jim Waltermire, Secretary of State, other person who releases information con­ Montana; Sherrod Brown, Secretary cerning the count of ballots cast at precinct (c) To give, offer, or promise any office, polling places or of absent voters' ballots place, or employment or to promise, pro­ of State, Ohio; David Hansen, Office prior to 7 p.m. on the day of the election is cure, or endeavor to procure any office, of the Lieutenent Governor, Utah; guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon convic­ place, or employment to or for any elector, James H. Henderson, Deputy Secre­ tion thereof, shall be punished as provided or to or for any other person, in order to tary of State, Maine; Lee Slater, Secre­ in section 1-13-111. induce such elector to vote or refrain from tary of State Election Board., Oklaho­ Source; R & RE, L. 80, p. 436, § 1. voting at any election provided by law or to ma; James B. Ellisor, Executive Direc­ 1-13-719. Employer's unlawful acts. <1) It induce any elector to vote or refrain from tor, Election Commission, South Caro­ is unlawful for any employer, whether cor­ voting at such election for any particular lina. poration, association, company, firm, or person or issue. James H. Douglas, Secretary of State, person, or any officer or agent of such em­ (2) Each offense set forth in subsection Vermont; Alex K. Brock, State Direc­ ployer: of this section is a misdemeanor, and, upon tor of Elections, North Carolina; Nat­ In any manner to control the action of conviction thereof, the offender shall be alie Meyer, Secretary of State, Colora­ his employees in casting their votes for or punished as provided in section 1-13-111. do; Ken Hechler, Secrete,ry of State, against any person or measure at any pre­ Source: R & RE, L. 80, p. 436, § 1. West Virginia; Nancy Sulser, Elections cinct caucus, assembly, or convention; or Coordinator, Office of the Secretary (b) To refuse to an employee the privilege PETITION IN OPPOSITION TO PASSAGE OF THE of State, Mississippi. of taking time off to vote as provided by sec­ UNIFORM POLL CLOSING BILL, TO THE HON­ I would also state that the commit­ tion 1-7-102, or to subject an employee to a ORABLE MEMBERS, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRE­ tee report says that CBO estimates it penalty or reduction of wages because of SENTATIVES, JANUARY 27, 1986 the exercise of such privilege, or to violate It is with the utmost concern that we will cost an additional $2 million for any of the provisions of section 1-7-102 in voice our opposition to passage of the Uni­ State and local election officials. Now any other way; or form Poll Closing Bill, H.R. 3525 which was for a Congress that spills $2 million In paying his employees the salary or approved by the House Committee on Ad­ before breakfast, that is not a very big wages due them, to enclose their pay in pay ministration. sum. For local election officials it may envelopes upon which there is written or That bill would: <1) establish a uniform be a back-breaking sum. In my judg­ printed any political mottoes, devices, or ar­ time for poll closing in presidential general ment, it is vastly understated. guments containing threats, express or im­ elections only of 9:00 p.m. Eastern Time; <2> The CBO estimate does not take plied, intended or calculated to influence extend Daylight Savings Time until the the political opinions, views, or actions of Sunday after election day every four years into account the additional dollars such employees: or in those states in the Pacific time zone; and that are going to be lost to our econo­ Cd) Within ninety days of any election (3) require polls in the Pacific time zone to my because of daylight saving time on provided by law, to put up or otherwise ex­ close at 7:00 p.m. Daylight Time. the west coast and its effect on our hibit in his factory, workshop, mine, mill, As chief election officials in the various transportation system. boardinghouse, office, or other establish­ states, we appreciate the interest the feder­ I hope to have a chance to talk ment or place where his employees may be al government has taken in the problems about that later during debate on the working or be present in the course of such created by the networks' practice of project­ employment any handbill, notice, or placard ing early election returns. We are all in bill under the 5-minute rule. I also containing any threat, notice, or informa­ agreement that a situation wherein any hope to talk more about the Voting tion that, if any particular ticket or candi­ voter is discouraged from casting his ballot Rights Act. This impinges on the date is elected, work in his place or estab­ because the television networks have, for all Voting Rights Act, and the enforce­ lishment will cease in whole or in part, or intents and purposes, announced the results ment of that act is on a case-by-case his establishment will be closed, or the of the election before the polls even close is basis. Decisions will take a long time wages of his workmen will be reduced or intolerable. and cannot be made in blocks. containing other threats, express or implied, But consider for a moment the effect this intended or calculated to influence the po­ legislation would have if passed. Without The bill has no penalties. If States litical opinions or actions of his employees. getting into the specifics, passage would don't comply, there seems to be no <2> Each offense mentioned in subsection mean dramatically altering the election laws way to make them do so. States may (1) of this section is a misdemeanor, and, of 39 states for one election held every four try to comply and find local jurisdic­ upon conviction thereof, the offender shall years. Such changes do not come without tions will not do so. be punished as provided in section 1-13-111. considerable cost to the states and to local Again I can only say, Mr. Chairman, In addition thereto, any corporation violat­ communities already facing financial diffi­ there is no reason to legislate, and ing this section shall forfeit its charter and culties. Also, the number of hours polls there is doubly no reason when it right to do business in this state. would be open in some states would have to Source: R & RE, L. 80, p. 436, § 1. be changed or cut back, further distorting means telling the States to do things 1-13-720. Unlawfully giving or promising the voting process. that they do not want to do for no money or employment. <1 > It is unlawful for Moreover, the function of conducting elec­ good reason. any person, directly or indirectly, by himself tions is one that rightly belongs to the sev­ H.R. 3525 is unwise, almost whimsi­ or through any other person: eral states. The fact that federal officials cal legislation. It is tilting, or half tilt­ To pay, loan, or contribute, or offer or are elected in conjunction with state offi­ ing, a nonexistent windmill. The bill promise to pay, loan, or contribute, any cials is in the nature of a courtesy and is not will surely discourage more potential money or other valuable consideration to or an opportunity for federal control. for any elector, or to or for any other The most serious consequence of passage voters than it will encourage. person, to induce such elector to vote or re­ is, however, the message it sends to the I urge this body to reject this impru­ frain from voting at any election provided major television networks in this country. dent bill. Local governments are by law or to induce any elector to vote or re- We are telling them, in essence, that while having enough trouble with federally January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 673 imposed conditions with no money to Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. in any State until polls in the State pay for them. Let's not do another. Chairman, I yield 6 minutes to my dis­ have closed." Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 tinguished colleague from California Testimony before the subcommittee minutes to the chairman of the full CMr. BADHAM], a member of the com­ indicated some very real concern, Committee on House Administration, mittee. which I share, with the scope of that the gentleman from Illinois CMr . .AN­ Mr. BADHAM. Mr. Chairman, H.R. pledge particulary in light of previous NUNZIO]. 3525, however nobly motivated, or pledges made and broken by the net­ Mr. ANNUNZIO. I thank the chair­ however conceptually appealing, works. man of the subcommittee, the gentle­ should be characterized as "reform But yet, we are going to change the man from Washington CMr. SWIFT]. without reason." There should only be election laws of 39 States based upon a Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from one legitimate rationale on which to nonbinding agreement between the Washington, Hon. AL SWIFT, as chair­ base Federal invasion of an area tradi­ current corporate management of the man of House Administration's Sub­ tionally left to each State, and that ra­ networks. At the very least, we should committee on Elections, has dedicated tionale should be an increase in voter accept the gentleman from New hundreds of hours, presided over participation. Hampshire's amendment requiring the countless hearings, studiously consid­ This bill will not achieve that pur­ renewal of this commitment 90 days ered every bill on the subject, pon­ pose. In fact, it may accomplish exact­ before a general election. dered each of their provisions, and ly the opposite. Shortening voter IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY considered every alternative, before hours in a number of States and One of the provisions of the bill bringing H.R. 3525, the uniform re­ changing voting hours in most of the gional poll closing bill, to this floor for would extend daylight savings time for States for Presidential general elec­ a maximum of 2 weeks for the 4112 our consideration. tions only confuse voters. The gentleman from California, States in the Pacific time zone in Pres­ Hon. BILL THOMAS, as the ranking mi­ THE PERCEIVED PROBLEM idential election years. This means nority member of the Subcommittee Following the 1980 and 1984 land­ that everyone else will be on standard on Elections, and one of the best and slide Presidential elections, there have time except for those States. most active members of the Commit­ been scattered complaints about the The Air Transport Association of tee on House Administration, has impact of early projections of winners America indicated in a letter to me staunchly supported and diligently by the television networks, and their that this would result in considerable participated in all of the investigations perceived impact on west coast voters. confusion among passengers and cargo and studies which brings this matter An early concession by the defeated shippers moving goods in interstate to our attention. Presidential candidate was a particular commerce, disrupt airline schedules, These two gentlemen, whose ener­ irritant. During each set of hearings and cause airlines and related travel gies and efforts are most responsible conducted by the task force on elec­ industry businesses to incur consider­ for the legislation we have before us tions after the 1980 election and the able expense. today, have been extremely sensitive Subcommittee on Elections after the The most serious problem is, of to the conflicting concerns of all those 1984 election, little statistical evidence course, the disruption of airline sched­ involved-the voters, the election ad­ was brought forward to verify the ules because many of them are geared ministration officials, the networks, impact on the west coast. to Pacific time zone departure and ar­ and the candidates themselves-and During both sets of hearings, west rival times. They would also incur con­ they have brought to the floor a bill coast election officials were virtually siderable expense to print two com­ which I feel effectively meets all of unable to present any more than sto­ plete schedules in a 2-week period. Not those concerns. ries of people leaving the polls or that to mention loading the schedules into Predicting the outcome of an elec­ their projected number of voters were the computer. Additionally, they tion before all the polls are closed has less than the actual number of voters would have difficulty with crew sched­ serious consequences for the demo­ which they felt suggested that early uling and lastly, they would be unable cratic processes of our Nation. Having projections caused folks to stay home. to comply with nighttime noise cur­ heard projections on the outcome of Additionally, some proponents cited fews at not less than four airports. an election, many voters are discour­ a University of Michigan study con­ Again, Mr. Chairman, I have to ask aged from casting their ballots believ­ ducted after the 1980 election that for what reason are we creating this ing the results have been decided. The suggested turnout dropped 6-11 per­ mess? Because of a perceived problem effect is the same as if they were dis­ cent because of projections. However a of early projections on the west coast enfranchised. critique of that study published in a voter. The process of casting ballots to public opinion magazine using the POLL HOUR CHANGES select political leaders is fundamental same data indicated that 0.2 percent of H.R. 3525 will require the majority to our citizenship in the United States all eligible respondents reported that of States to change their polling of America. In developing this legisla­ they did not vote because of election hours. In eight States: Iowa, portions tion, it was the objective of the Sub­ night coverage instead of the 6-11-per­ of South Dakota, Montana, Utah, committee on Elections to maintain cent figure. Idaho, California, Oregon, and Wash­ the integrity of the electoral process The point of all this, Mr. Chairman, ington will be required to reduce the while at the same time protecting the is to suggest to my colleagues that we time polls will be open in their States. freedom of the media. are considering a so-called reform One of the more interesting comments H.R. 3525 is a balanced bill designed without a good reason. This bill will from one of the election officials testi­ to protect the election process in con­ change the election hours in 39 States fying before the subcommittee came formance with the traditions of our every 4 years for no justifiable reason from our secretary of state of Califor­ unique and great democracy. except that there is a perceived prob­ nia who indicated in her written testi­ Vote yes and pass this bill. Vote yes lem in 4112 States. mony that between 5 and 10 percent and send a message to all of the voters THE NETWORKS COMMITMENT of the electorate vote between 7 and 8. in our Nation that their votes count After the 1984 election, Congress­ However, that wouldn't be a problem whenever the polls in the United man SWIFT and Congressman THOMAS because of their liberal absentee States are open. Vote yes and improve met with the networks officials and voting laws. She was unable to quanti­ America's electoral process through extracted statements from them that fy the impact of early projections. I this measure. they would no longer "use exit poll would suggest that anytime there is a I support passage of this bill and date to suggest, through interpreta­ change-particularly a reduction in urge you to do likewise. tion of that data, the probable winner voting hours only every 4 years-it will 674 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 result in reduced numbers and voter work projections our citizens believe tial election, many State and local confusion. that the votes of those who vote late elections were decided without the Polling hours in 11 States will simply do not count as much as the benefit of full voter participation. remain the -same: New York, Rhode votes of those who vote early. Earlier this year, the three networks Island, Louisiana, Minnesota, Wiscon­ Mr. Chairman and colleagues, we agreed to exercise voluntary restraint sin, Nebraska, Arizona, Colorado, New have tried a variety of voluntary ap­ in using their exit polling data to de­ Mexico, Wyoming, and Nevada. proaches in this area. For example, in termine the outcome of elections. The In the balance of the States and the the last Presidential election I asked networks agreed not to use exit polling District of Columbia, 31 States will be Mr. Mondale and President Reagan to data or suggest the probable winner required to alter their voting hours agree voluntarily to hold off any elec­ until the polls in that State are closed. from a minimum of one-half hour in tion announcements until polls closed This agreement solved only half the Arkansas to 2 to 3 hours in Indiana in the West. They did so, to their problem because Western voters could and Kentucky. credit. still be subject to actual vote totals de­ Two secretaries of state have indi­ But the networks still announced claring a winner before the polls cated to me that this change probably the results before we were done voting closed. This is why I believe nation­ would result in voter confusion and in the West. So it is clear that purely wide uniform poll closing will solve may require them to change the times voluntary approaches are not going to this problem. of all of their elections, not just the deal with this matter. Presidential general election. This legislation allows Americans to My last point is that the gentleman retain one of their most precious And again, I will ask my colleagues­ from Minnesota CMr. FRENZEL] has for what reason are we requiring continually said there is no evidence rights-the right to vote. I believe all States to make these changes? Americans, should have the opportuni­ that early election projections discour­ ty to cast their ballot and to have CONCLUSION aged people from voting. I would tell their vote count. H.R. 3525 insures In the 1980 and 1984 Presidential the gentleman that there is evidence that right and I hope my colleagues elections, Ronald Reagan was elected right in committee reports. Every will support this bill. and reelected by a landslide electoral single study that has been done in this Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I yield college vote. It was possible on both area indicates that some people are occasions that candidate Reagan had being discouraged. such time as he may consume to the won enough electoral college votes to gentleman from Maryland CMr. be declared the winner before polls 0 1610 HOYER]. had closed in all parts of the Nation. If We can debate how many people, Mr. HOYER. Mr. Chairman, I thank one had watched the evening news the that is, whether it is 3 or 2 percent or the chairman of the subcommittee for night before the election, they knew what have you. But the evidence is yielding time to me. the election was not going to be a cliff clear, some people are being discour­ Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of hanger. aged. H.R. 3525, the uniform poll closing Even though it may be years before The other point is that the gentle­ act. The chairman of this committee that phenomena occurs again, this bill man from Minnesota has said that and subcommittee deserve to be com­ is going to require 39 States to alter there is not a great deal of interest mended for their excellent work and their voting hours based on a nonbind­ around the country in this legislation. perseverance on this issue. ing pledge made by three corporate I would just tell the gentleman that in Primarily, it is an issue of fairness. entities in the hope that this will solve every community that I am acquaint­ All voters deserve the right to cast some sort of a perceived problem. ed with, when the networks come on their ballot for the candidate of their State and local governments are re­ the air with an early projection, they choice without the slightest hint of sponsible for managing elections and continually have their phones ring off discouragement. Unfortunately, voters paying for their costs. The Congres­ the hook from irate citizens who are in the Western United States have had sional Budget Office has indicated this unhappy about these early projec­ to confront news reports which predict could be at least $2 million. The Fed­ tions. the outcome of elections before the eral Government can set standards. It So I would hope that we could pass polls have been closed and all votes should never interfere in local man­ this legislation to ensure that all citi­ cast. Common sense tells us that such agement of elections unless there is zens have a right to have their votes a policy diminishes the value of our compelling evidence of a need to do so. be seen as counted as equally. most important democratic institu­ The committee has presented no such Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. tion-the ballot box, by implying that evidence. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the dis­ some votes count more than other Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I am tinguished gentlewoman from Nevada, votes. In this case, early votes are happy to yield 4 minutes to the gentle­ CMrs. VucANOVICH], a member of the given a greater weight than later ones. man from Oregon CMr. WYDEN]. committee. This is unfair to those who through Mr. WYDEN. I thank the chairman Mrs. VUCANOVICH. Mr. Chairman, no choice of their own, are 3 hours of the subcommittee. I rise in strong support of H.R. 3525, behind their fell ow citizens on the op­ First of all, Mr. Chairman, I want to the uniform regional poll closing bill. posite coast. commend the gentleman from Wash­ This bill will allow polls to close simul­ Mr. Chairman, it might appear that ington CMr. SWIFT] and the gentleman taneously across the country only the easiest method for correcting this from California CMr. THOMAS] for can­ during Presidential elections. I believe situation would be to prohibit the vassing the country to listen to what this bill will enable all voters to have media from making such predictions the people of this country would be­ the opportunity to cast their vote until all polls are closed. This however lieve to be fair, responsible legislation. without knowing the outcome of the treads into another treasured right, I think they have done that. They election beforehand. the freedom of the press, and the sub­ have come up with a responsible bill. In the 1980 election, the outcome of committee and its chairman, Repre­ The right to vote is the coin of democ­ t he election was announced before any sentative SWIFT, recognized this con­ racy and it seems to me that the early of the Western States' polls had flict early in their deliberations. Unde­ projection of election results is devalu­ closed. Many voters did not even vote terred, they successfully crafted a ing the currency. believing that since the winner of the compromise which it appears all par­ What we are seeing, particularly in Presidential election had already been ties can abide by. The networks have the West, is our citizens go to the polls announced, their vote was worthless. agreed not to predict probable winners after t he winners of an election is an­ While this may not have had much of an election in a State until the polls nounce and because of the early net- affect on t he outcome of the Presiden- in that State are closed. Since such a January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 675 policy is only meaningful if all polls be distortions, and I do not envy the But more fundamental than our close at the same time, the committee sponsors in the product. commitment of faith in this bill is our has wisely pursued this legislation. Mr. Chairman, I do congratulate belief in States' rights. The fact is that With its passage, the networks will be them for what they are trying to do, this bill is a clear usurpation of the unable to reveal probable outcomes re­ but these are governmental restric­ rights of local communities and States lying on a few key States while some tions. These are restrictions in pro­ to govern themselves and decide how States' polls are still open. gram content, regulations in an area they proceed with their most funda­ Mr. Chairman, the root of liberty is where regulations should not occur. mental right, and that is how they the right to vote. Nothing should be That is the point. elect their officials. allowed which would impugn the in­ Now, I think the bill has an inherent In my own home State, there are tegrity of this right. The committee flaw, as I have stated. I thought that I many small communities. All of those has worked long and hard to develop a might improve it by an amendment. communities have their own polling workable compromise and now it is the But upon further consideration, I hours. They are told only by the State responsibility of the floor to help would only be restricting the restric­ that they must be open to a limited bring this solution to fruition. I would tive effect of a bill which regulates too number of hours. I believe it is 6 urge all Members to join me in sup­ much. Therefore, I really do not think hours. And they can set those hours as porting this proposal and in protecting I can improve the legislation. they deem best and their citizens deem our most precious American posses­ I am sorry that the conditions are best, and it is done by the citizens, not sion, the right to vote. such that the real problems that have by the Federal Government or by the Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 arisen in the case of some elections on State telling them how to do it. It is minutes to the gentleman from Ohio the west coast have convinced people done at a town meeting where all the [Mr. LUKEN]. that we should go to this extreme situ­ citizens of the town get together and Mr. LUKEN. Mr. Chairman, I thank ation of regulating the 48 States in say, we want our polls open from this the gentleman from Washington for their conduct of election. But because time to this time. this time. I do not think it can be improved, I In my own hometown, which has 900 Mr. Chairman, I want to very sin­ will quietly vote against the legisla­ people, where there are approximately cerely congratulate the gentleman tion, but I will not attempt to offer 250 voters or 300 voters who will vote from Washington and the gentleman the amendment which is printed in in an election, it is open from 10 from California for their leadership in the RECORD. o'clock in the morning until 6 o'clock this matter, because it is a problem Mr. Chairman, again I congratulate in the evening. People vote. Our per­ that is perceived by many and it is one the authors for the hearings, for the centage of voter participation in New that they have devoted conscientious­ light that they have shown on it and Hampshire is extraordinarily high. ly a great deal of time and effort. And for an attempt to solve what is a real They know it is their duty to plan they have marshaled a great deal of problem. But I just think that we have their day so that they can vote. They support for this proposition. gone too far, and so I must demur. also know that it is their personal duty Unfortunately, I cannot fully agree Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. to return home to their families at with the sponsors. I do not envy the Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the night after 6 o'clock and to be with sponsors. I do not envy them in their gentleman from New Hampshire [Mr. their families. attempt to regulate the 48 States in an GREGG]. area that has not been regulated Mr. GREGG. Mr. Chairman, I thank D 1620 before. the gentleman from California and I And to deny that to the poll work­ I voted against the sense-of-Congress thank the Chairman of the committee. ers, to say to those poll workers, "You resolution in 1984, as did 64 other This bill is truly ill conceived, al­ have to be there until 9 o'clock at Members, because I believe the argu­ though it is obviously a genuine effort night because of some arbitrary deci­ ments are overdrawn. I believe the to address a problem which some sion of the Federal Government, that issues are overblown. I believe what it people in the Western States feel af­ you must stay until 9 o'clock at night," comes down to is, as has been stated fects their rights and their ability to is unfair to them, but, more impor­ here today, the purely voluntary will vote. tantly, it is a usurpation of a very fun­ not work and, therefore, we are going It is, however, a bill which has a damental right in this government, to an involuntary, a forced kind of ap­ number of fundamental flaws. The which is the right of the local commu­ proach, and I really do not think that first fundamental flaw is it places nities and the States to set their elec­ works in an election matter. I do not faith in promises and in hopes of ac­ tion hours. think it is going to work. I do not tivities which will be undertaken, first The mechanics of handling this bill think people realize what is coming by the people who are running for will be extraordinarily expensive to a down the track. office. There is nothing to say that a State like New Hampshire and many In the State of Ohio, the secretary candidate cannot concede his election States in the Northeast that do have of state, as many secretaries of state, or her election prior to the closing of at this time polls that clo~e through­ have urged us to oppose this legisla­ the polls in the West. And second, on out the day, because you are talking tion. The secretary of state of Ohio behalf of the networks a statement about forcing those States to keep the opposes the legislation because it is from the networks that they will polls open for an additional minimum, going to cause a great deal of expense, honor this agreement. And I do not in some situations, of 3 hours, and more than is estimated for the entire think anyone who has watched the longer in other situations, and the cost State, because it will probably require network news over the last 2 days at will be exceptional and it will be a cost two shifts of workers in the State of least, when we have watched them in that is borne by the local community Ohio. It will require additional ex­ what I consider to be a totally disrepu­ and it will be a cost that the local com­ pense. It will require, if not two shifts, table activity, interviewing children in munity will have a lot of trouble ex­ then 18- and 19-hour shifts, which the second grade about their feelings plaining to itself when it was running means that errors will creep in this all­ and their emotions as they watched elections very effectively without important election system that we the shuttle explode, can give much having to stay open all evening. h ave. confidence in the order of the net­ One has to also wonder what hap­ If we attempt to regulate from works on the issue of news collection. pened to Hawaii and Alaska. Are they Washington what each State does in And certainly we cannot place much not part of the Union? Did we decide t he conduct of its elections, t here are faith in t heir representations, in my that Hawaii and Alaska have disap­ going to be errors, there are going to opinion. peared simply because they are not 676 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 part of the continental United States? had hearings in the past, when most characterized as scattered complaints They are not in this bill. And yet ev­ witnesses testified there would be on the west coast. I would point out erybody else in the United States is in little or no additional cost. that, first of all, it was an uproar and this bill. That seems to be an incon­ So most of the arguments that have not scattered complaints. And, second, sistency so fundamental that it flaws been offered by those who oppose this I would point out that after the TV the bill to the point where it should be legislation are specious, at best, when Guide ran a series of articles in two defeated simply on that point. you consider the overall principle of editions, they suggested that anyone Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 providing an election process that per­ who is concerned with the problem minutes to the gentleman from New mits every person's vote to be as valua­ write our subcommittee, and we re­ York [Mr. BIAGGI]. ble as the other, whether it be the ceived hundreds and hundreds of re­ Mr. BIAGGI. I thank the gentleman first or the last. sponses. They came from 49 of the 50 for yielding. I strongly urge the passage of this States. And out of all of the responses Mr. Chairman, I rise as a cosponsor legislation. we have had, only four suggested we and supporter of this bill, H.R. 3525, Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. should not deal with the problem. to establish a uniform poll closing Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the We have heard that there is only an­ time for Presidential general elections. gentleman from Washington CMr. ecdotal evidence. Well, there have The notion of same-time voting has MILLER]. been a number of studies, and one long appealed to me. In fact, I au­ Mr. MILLER of Washington. Mr. that has gone so far as to indicate that thored a bill in 1980 providing for Chairman, I rise in support of this bill. among people who intended to vote same-time voting in Presidential elec­ I want to congratulate my colleague, and had not voted by 6 o'clock in 1980, tions and I have been advocating the the gentleman from Washington CMr. fully 25 percent did not go to the polls. idea ever since. My support for same­ SWIFT], for his fine work in addressing time voting is based on a firm belief a very difficult problem. People quibbled with that. There that we must do everything possible to Mr. Chairman, throughout the his­ have been other ones. And you can overcome controllable obstacles to tory of this Nation, we have battled to always quibble with a poll. But what voting. Quite frankly, the voter turn­ preserve the right of every American there is consensus on is that you can out rate in our Nation, which is barely citizen to cast his or her ballot freely demonstrate at least a 2-percent drop­ 50 percent in Presidential elections, is and without any undue interference off. I do not believe anyone can say in a disgrace. on election day. The battle started a democratic society that 2 percent of I am convinced that there is a direct back in the l 700's at the Constitution­ the electorate is de minimis. link between the elimination of early al Convention. Then in the early The transportation system, that is election projections and increased 1800's there was a battle against way overblown. We are talking about voter turnout. One study, conducted having property rights interfere with problems that may occur during 1 by the University of Michigan, con­ voting. And then the battle against hour of the day at perhaps six air­ cluded that the early projection in having race interfere with voting. And ports, and we have looked into it and 1980 resulted in a 6- to 11-percent de­ then the battle against having sex in each instance that can be taken cline in overall voter turnout. interfere with voting. care of. That is the greatest straw dog Now, thanks to the deep concern and Well, those were battles against too of them all. tireless work of the distinguished little knowledge, ignorance, prejudice. And, finally, I would like to point chairman of the Elections Subcommit­ Today we have a new obstacle to the out that there has been much said tee, Mr. SWIFT, and the ranking mi­ right to vote. Instead of knowing too here about the increased cost and that nority member, Mr. THOMAS, a sensible little, today we know too much. New they will have to go too long, in double and workable solution is before us. techniques have created a technologi­ shifts, and so forth. They have pressured the major net­ cal global village where there are in­ One of the things about this propos­ works into pledging not to make pro­ stant error-free election predictions, al is that it does not require of any jections based on exit polls until the where the news media competes with State to do something that some polling places are closed. If this pledge each other to put out the news so that States do not do now. It requires no is coupled with a uniform poll closing we know instantly across the Nation State to be open longer than some time, as proposed in H.R. 3525, the who is going to win, and the would-be States do now. It does not require problem of early election projections voter on the west coast is very discour­ them to stay open later than some would be eliminated. That is an objec­ aged from voting, from exercising that States do now. The concerns with tive worth achieving and I urge my franchise that we have fought for. double shifting are not legitimate con­ colleagues to join me in voting for this My colleague, who not coincidently cerns. There will be no need for double very responsible measure. is himself a former broadcast journal­ shifting because States currently are But, let me add that while this ist, has found a cure for the problem, able to make this work, there is no change should help to increase voter and it is a cure that is not as bad or double shifting anywhere in the 50 turnout, this modest reform must not worse than the disease. This bill, by States of the United States now, and be the end of our efforts to stimulate extending daylight savings time and this bill will not require of any State voter participation. A more con:ipre­ modifying poll closings is a thoughful that kind of an extraordinary effort. hensive plan deserves our priority at­ and effective answer to our dilemma. So the points that are being raised tention and such reforms as Sunday I believe this bill deserves our sup­ are points that I think are being raised elections and 24-hour voting should be port and it continues that fight that because of sincere concern but they given serious consideration. started hundreds of years ago to make are not of accurate concern. The previous speakers, Mr. Chair­ sure that all of us have a right to vote Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. man, addressed themselves to the without interference. Chairman, I yield myself such time as States of Hawaii and Alaska, and we Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I yield I may consume. realize they are distinguished because myself 2% minutes. Mr. Chairman, we are not here be­ of the location and the time zones in­ Mr. Chairman, a number of points cause we want to engage in social tin­ volved, and they pose a problem. The have been raised, and I think when we kering. We are not here because we committee has dealt with that. And in get to the amending process we will be think we know better than the States this case, there is no possible universal able to go into these in greater detail, themselves. Mr. Chairman, we are legislation that could address the 50 but a number of points have been here because we are trying to deal States. But for those two States, the raised that simply are not true. with technological prowess. program will not impose any hardship, First of all, the concern on the west In 1980, it has been charged by one will not increase any cost. We have coast and across the country has been of our former colleagues that the January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 677 reason we had the problem on the given State. That meant, then, that confident will do their job in the West Coast was because the President they were not any longer a part of the future. The networks have made the went belly up on national TV. In point problem. commitments necessary for us to bring of fact, there was a network projection The problem can be solved by Con­ you this bill today. The only folks left, that he was to be a loser before he gress. The candidates are not the in terms of whether or not they want made his announcement. problem. The networks are not the to do the job, they want to provide In 1984, we had both Presidential problem. The problem is the antiquat­ uniform poll closing in Presidential candidates agree that they would not ed election process across the United elections, are you, our colleagues, and issue a statement prior to 11 p.m. east­ States which does not allow for a uni­ we have before you a vehicle which ern standard time, and yet almost 3 form poll closing time. What we are will do that if you so choose. hours before the polls closed on the offering you in H.R. 3525 is the mini­ So I would urge you to vote "aye" on west coast, 2 hours before the polls mally intrusive procedure to provide H.R. 3525. close in mountain States, the an­ for that uniformity. Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 nouncement was made that the elec­ In our hearings we heard all kinds of minute to the gentleman from Oregon tion was over. alternatives to the current situation: [Mr. WYDEN]. What you have in front of you is a Sunday voting, 24-hour voting, any Mr. WYDEN. I thank the gentleman work product in H.R. 3525, which is a number of procedures which would for yielding to me at this time. very modest attempt to deal with this cost far more and which would go far Mr. Chairman, I just want to make advancing technology in a way in beyond what the gentleman from two points. Three-quarters of the which Congress has the full power to Washington, the chairman of the sub­ States in this country will be changing do so. committee, and this gentleman would their election laws by a maximum of 1 I would invite any of my colleagues consider as reasonable and appropriate to read briefly article I, section 4 of solutions. hour to solve a national problem. I the Constitution, in which the Con­ think it is clear that that indicates gress has the full power to deal with D 1635 that this can be done with a minimum time, place and manner of Federal So it is a little humorous to me to of inconvenience. elections. listen to the objections that are being The second point that I would men­ When you examine the various alter­ presented in opposition to this very, tion is that we continually hear about natives, to try to provide some solution very, modest proposal. The gentleman the airlines being inconvenienced by to the problem-and I think, yes, from Minnesota has gone so far as to having to do this once every 4 years. It there can be a fundamental disagree­ characterize the FEC as a responsible seems to me that an industry that is ment as to whether or not there is a body. I can tell you if any of you know capable, almost on the spur of the problem-I would say to my colleague him, that indicates the lengths to moment, of putting in place nation­ from California if he believes the which he has had to go now to find ob­ wide discount plans and changing all problem is 41/2 States, just wait, be­ jections to this particular measure. their schedules to reflect these dis­ cause by 1988 or by 1990 it could fully It might seem a kind of an inelegant counts, surely can once every 4 years be half the States of the Union, and solution to fiddle with time zones. I handle their scheduling to allow for shortly thereafter, because of techno­ might remind individuals that the uniform poll closing laws. logical advancements, it will be entire­ time zones that we currently have are Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I yield ly possible through polling techniques creatures of our minds and that we myself the balance of my time. to tell you who won by noon eastern have adjusted them at will. As a Mr. Chairman, I would add to what standard time. matter of fact, we did not even have a the gentleman has just said. It is also What we did was examine those uniform daylight saving time across true that the airlines publish their areas, those institutions, those activi­ the country until 1966. It amazes me schedules once every 2 weeks anyway, ties surrounding the eleCtion process that the airlines and the ground trans­ so it adds no additional burden there. which would have to make changes if portation could move across this I would like to close debat~ by we desired to solve what we thought Nation without, apparently, this pro­ making one simple observation. It was a problem. cedure that now must remain in place. seems to me that the thrust of the op­ It has been mentioned that the can­ Fixed immutably in time and that by a position to the legislation goes this didates could certainly concede, as simple adjustment of 1 hour on the way: There is not any problem really, President Carter did. We saw in 1984 west coast in terms of the time of so therefore, we should reject this so­ both Presidential candidates willingly ending of daylight savings time, would lution. I think that the vast majority agreeing not to make a statement. provide us with an opportunity to pro­ of the American public disagrees with They want to be part of the solution, vide uniform closing in Presidential the judgment that there is no prob­ not a part of the problem. I fully be­ elections, seems to me a solution lem. lieve that whoever the parties nomi­ which the Members of this House Just today, across my desk, came the nate in 1988, they will want to be part would leap at when you compare it results of a study by the Times-Mirror; of the solution and not part of the with possible alternatives in terms of "People on America's Attitude Toward problem. disruptions in the system. the Media." It is very interesting and I For a long time it was argued that So let me just say to my colleagues think somewhat good that we find the networks were part of the prob­ who are concerned about this as an al­ that in most instances the American lem, and I fully believe they were, be­ ternative: Many, many hours were public is very concerned about the cause until they made the flat state­ spent in examining other possible op­ first amendment when asked: "Should ment to us that they would not tions. This is the most minimal instru­ Government require equal access for project in any form or characterize an sion into the system in a manner candidates in newspapers?" Or, election before the polls in a State which is totally appropriate under the "Should the Government not get in­ closed, it meant we could try to bring Constitution, and which I think pro­ volved?" The majority of the Ameri­ before you this kind of a measure and vides an opportunity for us to examine can people say the Government they could through the back door un­ other possible changes in the Election should not get involved. When asked, dermine our efforts so we could not Code which will allow us to stay at "Should Government require all sides even start. least abreast of advancing technology. receive coverage on controversial As has been indicated, in January of So I would say to may colleagues as issues?" or, "Should the Government 1985, the networks agreed that they they contemplate their vote on H.R. not get involved?" The American would not project or characterize elec­ 3525, candidates for President have public says the Government should tions until the polls had closed in any done their job in the past, and I am not get involved. But when asked, 678 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 "Should the Government not allow force the polls to remain open until 9 p.m. on Presidential campaign, these network "char­ early projections on election night?" the night of the election. Many of our pre­ acterizations" of election results have overrid­ or "Should the Government not get cincts in some of the rural counties vote by den the media's commitment to prepoll clos­ involved?" The public says the Gov­ paper ballots. Keeping the polls open until 9 ing discretion. ernment should prevent early projec­ p.m. would give them a late start on counting Mr. Chairman, we must ensure that the tions. and verifying the ballots, thereby delaying the democratic principles which depend upon a Now, fortunately, we do not have to actual tallying of their votes. Such delays are fair and equitable process are not placed go that far. The gentleman from Cali­ not needed in West Virginia. second in the network's pursuit to quickly and fornia [Mr. THOMAS] and I, have no in­ We must also keep in mind the confusion efficiently report newsworthy events. I urge my terest whatever and would not support factor which would be raised by a changing of colleagues to vote for this timely legislative ini­ a proposal that involved the Govern­ the poll hours. We can tell from experience tiative. ment telling the networks what to do. that confusion or uncertainty over whether or Mr. MATSUI. Mr. Chairman, I rise today to A clear transgression of the first not the polls are open is a very large factor in speak in favor of H.R. 3525, a bill to establish amendment. But do not tell me the keeping voters away from the polls. In non­ a uniform poll closing for Presidential general American public does not believe there Presidential election years, some voters may elections. is a problem here. And do not tell me still think that the polls would be open until 9 We live in an information age where news is that the carefully crafted, very re­ p.m. when, in fact, they would have closed a transmitted with immediacy by communica­ strained proposal that this committee few hours earlier. Some States would be tions networks linking every corner of America forced to close their polls at 9 p.m. every year is bringing the Congress today is not and the world. But despite our great techno­ in order to avoid the confusion. Yet, these one that will solve that problem. logical advancements, our Nation is still divid­ new hours would serve no purpose in years Mr. CHANDLER. Mr. Chairman, I would like ed by numerous time zones. This has created when there is no Presidential election. to express my strong support for the uniform a problem on election day when national net­ It is for these reasons, Mr. Chairman, that I poll closing time and commend my col­ works broadcast early projections of winners must oppose this bill and I urge my colleagues leagues, AL SWIFT and BILL THOMAS, for their based upon exit polls conducted in the east­ leadership in bringing this bill to the floor. to do the same. There are other ways to in­ crease voter turnout. ern time zones. It would have been easy to neglect this The most infamous incident of this occurred issue since the problem arises only once Mr. GUARINI. Mr. Chairman, today I rise in support of H.R. 3525, legislation to establish a on election day of the 1980 Presidential gen­ every 4 years, but it is an issue that deserves eral election when early forecasts predicted the attention of Congress because it involves standard closing time for Presidential general Ronald Reagan the winner over Jimmy Carter. the basic right of our citizens to participate in elections. After a careful investigation of the Media reporting and Carter's subsequent con­ the electoral process. It is a definite infringe­ facts pertaining to this issue, it is clear to me cession speech resulted in a lowered voter ment on that right when voters learn the out­ that there have been serious infringements turnout in my home State of California. Some come of an election before they have cast upon our Nation's electoral procedures. The their ballots. lack of uniform poll closings threatens the citizens actually standing in line waiting to H.R. 3525 will eliminate that infringement, backbone of America's democratic tradition. In vote left their polling places without casting and not tamper with the constitutional rights of order to remedy this situation, I have cospon­ their ballots when they heard the projections broadcasters. The uniform poll-closing time, in sored this measure so all polls will close si­ that Reagan had won. Many more people de­ effect, tells people on the west coast that multaneously on Presidential election day. cided against going to the polls to exercise their votes do count and carry the same For the past 25 years the increasing speed their right of suffrage upon hearing the net­ impact as those of voters in earlier time and accuracy of network polling has resulted work projection a winner in the Presidential zones. In addition, a uniform closing will avoid in projections of Federal elections consider­ race. Numerous Federal, State, and municipal the possibility that the outcomes of State and ably earlier than all votes are cast. While the elections were substantially impacted by the local races are affected because people lose media strives to report the outcome of a na­ lowered voter turnout. some of the incentive to vote once they learn tional campaign as soon as polls close in the I am pleased to note that the major net­ the Presidential results. East, there are nearly 3 hours of balloting left works have since made a commitment not to I believe the bill before us today is an inno­ in some Western States. Serious questions project probable winners in any State until vative and workable way to address a problem have arisen as to how these early projections polls in that State have closed. While this that is a source of concern for voters not only influence voting decisions and the public's solves the problem of exit poll projections, it on the west coast, but those in the Nation as motivatiion to vote. does not address the situation created when a whole. This proposal accomplishes an im­ This problem manifested itself during the actual east coast results become available portant national objective with a minimum of Presidential election of 1980 when pollsters hours before polls close on the west coast. disruption and confusion for voters in all re­ predicted President Reagan's victory over The solution is a uniform poll-closing time. gions of the country. Carter well before west coast polls were H.R. 3525 will extend the polling hour in the H.R. 3525 deserves the support of the closed. An in-depth investigation after this eastern time zone until 9 eastern standard House, and I urge my colleagues to oppose event concluded that some voters declined to time. This bill will extend Pacific daylight time any weakening amendments. cast their ballot after hearing media reports of 1 week during Presidential election years so Mr. RAHALL. Mr. Chairman, I would like to Reagan's landslide. The outcome of some that west coast polls closing at 7 P.D.T. will take this opportunity to voice my opposition to congressional contents were affected as well. do so uniformly with the east coast polls. H.R. 3525 to establish a uniform poll-closing It has been argued that the number of The uniform poll closing concept has the time for Presidential elections. I believe that voters influenced by these announcements support of the board of supervisors in my Sac­ the problem of people being discouraged from represents an insignificant minority in a large ramento County district. I agree with their con­ going to the polls by early projections is one Presidential campaign. This narrow argument clusion that uniform poll closing will contribute that is somewhat exaggerated. While I agree fails to incorporate the larger ramifications to increased voter turnout in Sacramento with efforts that are underway to get the net­ which confront the electoral process as a County. This conclusion is based upon statis­ works to discontinue the use of exit polls to whole. A margin of voters, however narrow, tics compiled by Mr. Ernest Hawkins, registrar make their projections, I feel that if voters whose political voice is not heard can have a of voters for Sacramento County. These sta­ intend to vote they will not be swayed by pre­ significant effect on any election, especially tistics show that in both 1980 and 1984, the 4 mature speculations and projections. The right small, close races. Indeed, there are numer­ p.m. voter projection was higher than actual to vote is our constitutionally protected voice ous instances in which the outcome of con­ turnout. in our Government and I feel that most Ameri­ gressional, gubernatorial and municipal elec­ Mr. Chairman, a uniform poll-closing time cans cherish this right and would exercise tions have depended upon one-vote margins. would not be an additional burden on the tax­ their right regardless of the status of elec­ Most importantly, premature projections vio­ payers and would not require an additional tions. late the concept of fairness and equity which layer of bureaucracy. A uniform poll-closing This bill would also have a negative effect is of primary importance in conclusively de­ time will stimulate interest in voting in Califor­ on our polls in West Virginia. The bill would claring a candidate the victor. Since the 1980 nia. Those of us who cast our ballots on the January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 679 west coast will know that our votes will be the committee amendment in the night. This affects three States: New counted at the same time, and will count just nature of a substitute be printed in Hampshire, Montana, and Idaho, as much, as votes cast on the east coast. the RECORD, and open to amendment where they have State laws, because Mr. UDALL. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support at any point. the size of our towns and our commu­ of H.R. 3525, a well considered and carefully The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection nities are quite small in many in­ structured piece of legislation that will estab­ to the request of the gentleman from stances. I have a number of towns, for lish a uniform poll closing time, a sorely Washington? example, with voting populations of needed improvement in our election proce­ There was no objection. under 25. dures in this time of instantaneous national re­ The text of the remainder of the In those instances, the votes are cast portage by the electronic media. committee amendment in the nature in the household of the local registrar Mr. Chairman, every 4 years we hear of of a substitute is as follows: or the local moderator, usually in her voters, especially in the Far West, who report SEC. 2. EXTENDED DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IN PA· kitchen. As a result, people come by they were discouraged from going to the polls CIFIC TIME ZONE IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEARS. and she checks them off until every­ on Presidential election days because the body in town has voted. Or he checks issue had been decided by the networks Section 3 of the Uniform Time Act of 1966 <15 U.S.C. 260a> is amended by adding at the them off until everybody has voted. hours before the polls were to close in their Then they close up shop and they locals. • end of the following new subsection: "Cd> Notwithstanding subsection of count the votes. It does not take too In several instances, notably in Washington this section, in each year in which a Presi­ long because usually there is only State, Oregon, and California, local and con­ dential general election takes place, the about 10 or 20 votes to be counted, and gressional elections were undisputedly affect­ period of time during which the standard they report the votes to the Secretary ed by the lower turnout that came after net­ time shall be advanced with respect to the work announcements of the outcome of the Pacific time zone shall end at 2:00 o'clock of State. Presidential race. ante meridiem on the first Sunday after the Now, to ask those people to be open Mr. Chairman, we are not asking the States date of that election. until 9 o'clock at night makes abso­ to adopt drastic change. Indeed, States coast "<2> As used in this subsection, the term lutely no sense. It obviously will not 'Presidential general election' means the prejudice the election to allow those to coast have supported the intent and the election for electors of President and Vice mechanics of H.R. 3525. very small towns to close their polling President.". places after everybody in the town has This change, long overdue, will be a posi­ SEC. 3. TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS. tive step in bringing order to our sometimes voted. As I say, this is a simple amend­ (a) AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 3, UNITED STATES ment. It simply requests that in those chaotic system of electing a President. CoDE.-The table of sections for chapter 1 of I wish to commend my colleagues Mr. title 3, United States Code, is amended- instances where 100 percent of the SWIFT and Mr. THOMAS for their outstanding <1 > by striking out the item relating to sec­ people who are registered vote, that in efforts on behalf of this excellent bill. tion 21 and inserting in lieu thereof the fol· those instances the polls may be The CHAIRMAN. All time has ex­ lowing: closed before 9 o'clock. It is obviously pired. "22. Definitions."; and going to affect only a few towns Pursuant to the rule, the committee <2> by inserting after the item relating to throughout the Nation. amendment in the nature of a substi­ section 20 the following new item: Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, will the tute now printed in the reported bill "21. Single poll closing time in continental gentleman yield? shall be considered as an original bill United States.". Mr. GREGG. I yield to the gentle­ for the purpose of amendment. Each Amendments to Uniform Time Act of man. section shall be considered as having 1966.-Section 3 of the Uniform Time Act Mr. SWIFT. I thank the gentleman. been read. of 1966 <15 U.S.C. 260a redesignating section 21 as section 22; "Cb> Notwithstanding subsection . a the gentleman. and polling place shall close, with respect to a Mr. Chairman, I would like to com­ <2> inserting after section 20 the following Presidential general election, as provided by mend the gentleman from New Hamp­ new section: the law of the State involved, in the case of a polling place at which each person who is shire because not only is it eminently "§ 21. Single poll closing time in continental eligible to vote has voted. logical that you ought to be able to United States On page 4, line 8, strike out "" and close the polling place after everyone "(a) Each polling place in the continental insert in lieu thereof "Cc>". who is eligible to vote has voted, it also United States shall close, with respect to a provides, I think, an incentive for any Presidential general election, at 9:00 o'clock Mr. GREGG As used in this section, the term­ to the request of the gentleman from kind of incentive and we have no prob­ "(1) 'continental United States' means the New Hampshire? lem with the amendment. States of the United States and the District of Co­ Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, I lumbia; Mr. GREGG. Mr. Chairman, this is move to strike the last word. "(2) 'Presidential general election' means a fairly innocuous amendment. What Mr. Chairman, there is no doubt, be­ the election for electors of President and it says, in very simple terms, is that if cause this amendment allows local Vice President; and you are in a precinct where everybody units of governments to do what they "(3) 'State' means a State of the United votes, everybody in the precinct who is have been doing before, to conduct States and the District of Columbia.". a registered voter goes to the polls and their elections in a reasonable manner Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I ask votes, then you do not have to keep that suits the citizens of their area, unanimous consent the remainder of your polls open until 9 o'clock at that the amendment makes the bill less 680 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 worse than it is. But what the amend­ cause they moved in the last 30 days Mr. SWIFI'. Mr. Chairman, I would ment does it points out the essential, before the election, they did not have make the point that the amendment nonsensical nature of the bill. time to establish residence in another refers to State law. If this amendment The two gentlemen who are promot­ precinct. To all intents and purposes, is passed on this bill, it would not take ing this bill, until we came to the floor the judges sitting at the polling place away from the States the right to today, did not care about Dixville would believe that person has moved define "eligible voter." I think it Notch, a little hamlet in New Hamp­ away. should be left to the States in that shire, which is the first unit of govern­ At this point, would the person be el­ regard. ment to report in every Presidential igible to vote, in their estimation, and, So should an ambiguity develop-I general election. therefore, they would have to leave really do not think it will, but should 0 1645 the polls open until the last minute if an ambiguity develop, the State would a registered voter is on the books and have the authority in that regard. That is a great American tradition, has not appeared? Mr. GREGG. Mr. Chairman, if the and I am glad the gentleman from Mr. GREGG. Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman will yield further, there are New Hampshire has persuaded the gentleman will yield, that would be a only three States to which this applies managers of the bill to allow that tra­ determination for the moderator, I anyway, and Illinois is not one. It dition to continue. would think, as to whether or not that would only apply to Idaho, Montana, The bill's unreasonable require­ was a registered voter who qualified to and New Hampshire. ments on the towns dear to the gentle­ vote in the precinct. man from New Hampshire have now Mr. DURBIN. Would the gentleman Mr. DURBIN. I would suggest to the be kind enough to explain to me why been relieved, but the unreasonable re­ gentleman that that raises an ambigu­ quirements on 39 other States are still ity that may cause some problems in this only applies to three States? not relieved. That is my problem with precincts, unlike your own, where only Mr. GREGG. Because it is only the bill. maybe 50 voters in some precincts are where State law allows a polling place A previous speaker said that only a all known to everyone and no one has to close when everyone has voted. few States will have to keep their polls moved in or out of town in a period of Mr. SWIFI'. If the gentleman will open more than an hour longer. The time. yield, there is nothing in this that gentleman from California said this In an area of the country where would prevent a State from so chang­ was a "minimal" change in voting there is a more mobile population, ing its State law, but currently only laws. The gentleman from Washington there is a possibility that the polling three States choose to do it that way. said there were "modest" changes in place would be closed before a regis­ Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Chairman, I will election hours. Yet as I look through terd voter could show up to vote. You be honest with the gentleman. Having the list that I have, I have to believe could be disenfranchising a person read the amendment, I did not con­ that those changes are pretty strong. I who, although they have moved from clude that that was the original intent, count 12 or 13 States which have their a precinct, could still legally vote in that only three States would be affect­ voting hours extended by more than 1 the precinct. It would seem to me that ed. hour, and I count 39 States that have the language would be clearer if it Mr. GREGG. Well, that is the their voting times changed. That is a said: "A polling place at which each intent. There is language that may not drastic change. person who registered to vote at that be on the copy the gentleman has So, yes, the amendment offered by polling place has voted." which says, "as provided by the law of the gentleman from New Hampshire is Mr. GREGG. Mr. Chairman, I think the State involved." That is in the in­ worthwhile. It removes some of the ri­ we can clear that up in the report lan­ troductory language. diculous and onerous restrictions of guage. It seems to me that that type Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Chairman, I the bill. The only way the gentleman of technicality is something that thank the gentleman, and I am happy from New Hampshire could have done would probably be inappropriate to that the gentleman clarified that better is to see that the whole bill is legislate. We are dealing with districts point for me. defeated. where obviously by definition we are The CHAIRMAN. The question is on Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Chairman, I move going to have very small numbers of the amendment offered by the gentle­ to strike the requisite number of people registered in that district or man from New Hampshire [Mr. words. else you are not going to get 100 per­ GREGG]. Mr. Chairman, I wonder if the gen­ cent anyway. The amendment was agreed to. tleman from New Hampshire would Mr. DURBIN. If the gentleman AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. FRENZEL answer a question for me in relation to would respond to this question, the Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, I this amendment. amendment which I have before me offer an amendment. Mr. GREGG. Yes, I will, Mr. Chair­ does not limit the size of the precinct. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair would man, if the gentleman will yield. Mr. GREGG. No, it does not, but I remind the gentleman from Minnesota Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Chairman, I think as a practical matter the size of that the first part of his amendment detect what appears to be an ambigui­ the precinct is limited. amends the title of the bill, and the ty, and perhaps the gentleman can Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Chairman, I title cannot be amended in the Com­ clarify it. would suggest to the gentleman that mittee of the Whole. According to the language here, it perhaps if a person who is legally reg­ Mr. FRENZEL. I thank the Chair speaks of "a polling place at which istered to vote in this country shows for pointing that out. each person who is eligible to vote has up to vote at a time when he believes The CHAIRMAN. If the gentleman voted." That is the operative language his polling place is open and finds the wishes to strike the first part of the at the end of the amendment. door locked and is unable to vote, it amendment, the amendment could be There is a situation where, on the would not be any small matter to that considered. polling books in the polling place person, and perhaps it is a matter we Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, I ask where I live, an individual's name can ought to consider as we make a rule unanimous consent that the language show up as a registered voter when which will apply to literally hundreds of my amendment referring to the that person has in fact moved from of thousands of precincts across Amer­ title of the bill be deleted from my the precinct. There is also a possibility ica. amendment, and that the amendment that that person could still legally Mr. SWIFI'. Mr. Chairman, will the be considered. vote in that precinct. In other words, gentleman yield? The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will dis­ the person who has registered to vote Mr. DURBIN. I am happy to yield to regard that portion referring to the has moved from the precinct, but be- the gentleman from Washington. title and will report the amendment. January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 681 The Clerk read as follows: I do not think the people of Alaska drum, not one that the committee ig­ Amendment offered by Mr. FRENZEL: On and the people of Hawaii would like nored. We counseled with the repre­ page 3, line 18, strike "continental". my amendment. I do not think they sentatives from Hawaii. We held a On page 4, line 1, strike "continental". want to be in this bill, nor do I think hearing in Anchorage, AK, to explore On page 4, line 2, strike "continental". most of the people in the United this. On page 4, beginning on line 9, strike sub­ States want to be in this bill. My Essentially what they said is, "Look, section . amendment merely shows that the if the majority of the States are going On page 4, line 12, strike (2) and insert in bill, not the amendment, is frivolous. to be able to resolve this problem in a lieu thereof <1 ). 0 1655 way that makes sense to them, you On page 4, line 14, strike (3) and insert in will have to apply it to us"-exactly as lieu thereof (2). Mr. Chairman, why would anyone the gentleman's amendment does-"to protect some Western States and not close our polls so early is unacceptable Mr. FRENZEL also honored their commitment man from Illinois. House ask that this extraneous mate­ of not projecting winners until after the Mr. HYDE. I thank the gentleman. rial be placed in the RECORD, a letter polls had closed in a given state. It is my experience as an avid news­ signed by Lawrence K. Grossman, Yet, despite adherence to these commit­ paper reader that matters of tight ments, potential voters were confronted secret national security get printed in president of the News Division of the with a network-announced winner for Presi­ the papers without any qualms; things National Broadcasting Co., a letter dent with as much as three hours left that can affect the security of this signed by Roone Arledge, president of before polls in the West had closed. country, of the West, of intelligence ABC News, and a letter by Edward M. The Congress had urged a solution to this operatives placed around the globe, Joyce, president of CBS News. dilemma by passing H. Con. Res. 321 asking Mr. WYDEN. Mr. Chairman, will the the networks to "voluntarily refrain from and these are fairly routine and with­ characterizing or projecting results of an out the slightest qualm. gentleman yield? election before all the polls for the office I have listened to media debates Mr. THOMAS of California. I would have closed ..." But, this solution was un­ about, "How far would you go to get a certainly yield to the gentleman. acceptable to the networks because, in their story?" "Would you burglarize some­ Mr. WYDEN. I thank the gentleman professional judgement, it put them at a dis­ for yielding. advantage to their competitors and was a body's office; if it was on somebody's possible violation of their First Amendment desk would you take it?" Mr. Chairman, I want to associate freedoms. It seems to me the highest duty of a myself with the remarks of the gentle­ In their turn, the networks argued that media person is to get that news and man from California CMr. THoMAsl. I the dilemma is a result of archaic election communicate it, whatever the cost. just think the gentleman from Minne­ laws and that the solution was for Congress So I would suggest or I would say sota's amendment essentially dele­ to enact uniform poll closing provisions. that an agreement by the networks gates to a private citizen whether a Because past discussions have not pro­ not to publicize something, informa­ duced an agreement, we must continue to law will be effective. That strikes me examine all options available to us as we tion which they have received, is like as highly peculiar and of dubious con­ plan our legislative agenda for the 99th Samuel Johnson's characterization of stitutionality. I want to yield back to Congress. Before again traveling down a second marriages: 'A triumph of hope the gentleman from California, and I well-worn path, we are compelled to restate over experience." associate myself with his remarks. our goal of resolving this problem and clear­ I thank the gentleman for yielding Mr. THOMAS of California. I thank ly communicate to you our position: Mr. GREGG. I thank the gentleman the gentleman. "We feel that Congress cannot and will from Illinois. I think the gentleman not seriously entertain legislation offering a If I might make this point: In terms uniform poll closing time or modified voting has made the point well. I believe of the negotiations with the networks, day or similar solution until the networks without the Frenzel amendment it is those who feel perhaps uncomfortable are on record with a firm, explicit, public, · fairly clear that there is no enforce­ in the networks' corporate policy corporate commitment not to use exit poll ment mechanism placed on the net­ which is now stated in the letters data to suggest, through interpretation of works to comply with their agreement which have been sent to the gentle­ that data, the probable winner in any state and that by definition, as the gentle­ until polls in that state have closed." man from Illinois so succinctly pointed man from Washington and myself and Such a commitment would provide Con­ out, these networks, by the definition that will be on record in the congres­ gress with the needed reassurance that the of their purpose, will not be able to sional journal; I guess they do not just results of exit polls would not be used, appreciate the number of months through characterizations, trending . to "short-circuit" a last­ is part of the legislation. spent in discussing the way in which ing solution to this important and seemingly Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. we could solve our problem and that neverending problem. With such a commit­ Chairman, I move to strike the requi­ one of the clear obstacles was the net­ ment, we feel the networks would have done site number of words, and I rise in op­ works, since they had to be part of the their part and we in Congress could turn to position to the amendment. solution rather than the problem. doing our part in a positive and constructive I also apparently feel that the gen­ atmosphere that bodes well for success. Mr. Chairman, this gentleman ap­ We appreciate your consideration of our preciates the efforts of those who ear­ tleman from Minnesota does not real­ views and look forward to your response. lier were trying to defeat the bill to ize that the candidates are already Best regards, now solve some of the quote, unquote, part of the solution and not part of AL SWIFT, problems with the bill. Clearly, the problem, as was witnessed by the WILLIAM M. THOMAS, though, the gentleman from Washing­ election in November 1984 in which Members of Congress. the candidates not only wanted to sign ton has pointed out the mischievous NATIONAL BROADCASTING nature of this particular amendment. those but were glad to sign them be­ COMPANY, INC., It would allow anyone to hold hostage cause they wanted to be part of the so­ New York, NY, December 12, 1984. the process. lution. The networks are now part of The Honorable AL SWIFT, It is interesting to point out in the the solution; the candidates are part The Honorable WILLIAM M. THOMAS, amendment that while the gentleman of the solution. Congress of the United States, House of Rep- from Minnesota pleads for each and What we are trying to do is move resentatives, Washington, DC. every last voter, no matter where they DEAR Co1'GRESSMEN: This is in response to legislation so that the Congress can your letter of December 6 requesting a may be, in Hawaii or Alaska, he con­ afford the mechanism which will re­ "commitment" from NBC News regarding tains it only to the major party Presi­ solve the problem. the use of our exit poll data during elections dential and Vice Presidential nominees The letters referred to are as fol­ if there were "a uniform poll closing time or and is not concerned about the minor lows: modified voting day or similar solution" to party nominees that are involved. the problem we have discussed. January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 687 NBC News policy currently requires that outcome from exit polling data prior to a three of many networks, and there we not make an election projection until national closing time. In response to your may of course be more by the time the state election officials begin the release of letter, I am reaffirming that commitment. Presidential election rolls around, that · actual votes. Again, your initiative offers hope of a posi­ they refer to the fact that they had in As I said in a recent talk to the Radio and tive, constructive and lasting solution to this Television News Directors' Association, "If problem. You and your colleagues have the previous years had a similar commit­ polls in all 50 states close simultaneously, full support of ABC News. ment and they were making one now then NBC News would effectively and real­ Sincerely, which was couched in different terms istically be able to hold all the information ROONE ARu:DGE. than what the gentleman and the dis­ we gather from our election day polling tinguished chairman asked for. until after the election is over across the CBS NEWS, Does that lead the gentleman to be­ nation." January 17, 1985. lieve, as it does me, that next year In short, NBC News policy enables us to DEAR CONGRESSMAN Sw1rr AND CONGRESS­ go on record with our commitment that we MAN THoMAs: We are delighted to learn that there may be a third policy and the shall not use the exit poll data we gather you will be considering legislation establish­ year after that a different policy? My "to suggest the probable winner in any state ing a uniform poll closing time in Federal amendment is simply trying to give until polls in that state have closed." I hope elections. some basis to a bill which is on pretty this will give you the reassurance you seek As you know, CBS has long advocated flimsy ground from yard one. that the results of our exit polls would not such a step as the best means of alleviating Mr. THOMAS of California. Re­ be used to "short circuit" a proposed solu­ the problems caused by the patch-quilt of claiming my time, perhaps the gentle­ tion along the lines that you have suggested multiple poll closings across several time in your letter. zones. We also see this solution as the least man from Minnesota can read more Like you, we hold the conviction that the intrusive to First Amendment Rights. into language than is there because if integrity of the election process is most im­ You have noted in the past that the he will look, for example, at the CBS portant to our democracy. I personally be­ intent of such a uniform poll closing law News letter, it says pretty frankly, lieve, as the attached copy of my recent talk would be defeated if the networks charac­ boldly, and plainly on page 2 that: terized or projected the likely outcome of in San Antonio indicates, that there are CBS News will no longer use Election Day considerable "advantages of a uniform poll races before the polls close. And you have accordingly asked us wheth­ exit polls to characterize races before the closing time" in helping to resolve this issue. polls close in the States involved. As I also pointed out, however, there may er we would pledge not to engage in such well be news releases, interviews or state­ characterization or projections, based on Now that to me is pretty declarato­ ments by candidates, high campaign offi­ our election day exit poll results prior to the ry. Perhaps the gentleman can read cials or others that provide newsworthy in­ time the polls close. more into that than anyone else can. formation which should be reported in a As you know, our policy in 1984 and in Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal­ timely manner. But I do believe your initia­ prior years has been to project the races one state at a time, but not before the polls in ance of my time. tive will go a long way to help resolve the The CHAIRMAN. The question is on basic network news reporting dilemma we each of those states have closed, or in those all face. states with multiple closings, until the vast the amendment, as modified, offered Best regards, majority of polls have closed. by the gentleman from Minnesota LAWRENCE K. GROSSMAN. This policy is entirely consistent with the [Mr. FRENZEL]. request. The question was taken; and on a di­ ABC NEWS, However, in recent years we have devel­ vision (demanded by Mr. FRENZEL) New York, NY, December 12, 1984. oped the capability of using our exit polls to there were-ayes 8, noes 10. Representative AL Sw1rr, arrive at characterizations of the unlikely outcome prior to the time the polls have So the amendment, as modified, was Longworth Hou.se Office Building, Washing­ rejected. ton, DC. closed. Representative WILLIAM M. THOMAS, We understand that these characteriza­ AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. FRENZEL Cannon House Office Building, Washing­ tions would defeat the very purpose of the Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, I ton, DC. legislation you are considering. offer an amendment. DEAR REPRESENTATIVES Sw1rr AND THOMAS: Since we agree with you that a uniform The Clerk read as follows: I am responding immediately to your letter poll closing law is the only realistic solution received today on behalf of ABC News and to the issues that modern technology has Amendment offered by Mr. FRENZEL: On the American Broadcasting Companies, Inc. produced, and in furtherance of the realiza­ page 5, after line 16, insert the following We believe your letter offers a very positive tion of such legislation, CBS News will no new section: and constructive approach towards resolv­ longer use election day exit polls to charac­ SEC. 4. SUNSET PROVISION. ing the issues raised in Presidential elec­ terize races before the polls close in the The amendments made by section l, sec­ tions when results from one part of the states involved. tion 2, and section 3Ca) shall apply only with country are known before polls have closed We trust that this letter, which you are respect to the Presidential general election in later time zones. free to make part of the record, will be help­ in the year 1988, unless otherwise provided Throughout this controversy, ABC News ful in removing barriers to early and earnest by law. consideration by the Congress of uniform has suggested that a uniform national poll Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, this closing hour would solve the problem. Your poll closing time legislation. We wish you letter states that Congress will not seriously success in your endeavors. is a simple sunset amendment. consider a uniform poll closing hour, or Sincerely, What will happen if this bill be­ similar solution, until the networks are on EDWARD M. JOYCE, comes law is that we will force 39 record with a "firm, explicit, public, corpo­ President. States to change the way in which rate commitment not to use exit poll data to Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, will they hold elections on Presidential suggest, through interpretation of that the gentleman yield? general years. Some of them will have data, the probable winner in any state until Mr. THOMAS of California. Certain­ to make adjustments of from 2 to 3 polls in that state have closed." ly I yield to the gentleman from Min­ hours in the poll opening times. In fact, ABC News announced before the FRENZEL]. Thirty-nine of them, nearly 80 percent recent Presidential election that we would nesota, [Mr. "not use exit poll data to suggest the winner Mr. FRENZEL. I thank the gentle­ of the States, will have to make some of an election in any state until polls in that man for yielding. changes. state have closed," That meant ABC News Mr. Chairman, I am glad to know We will be having a separate, 2- did not utilize exit polls to characterize, that the candidates were willing to weeks daylight savings time in 4112 report trends, or in any other way to state sign the pledges last time and they States. There will be mass confusion. or imply the outcome of any election until will this time. That should alleviate In my judgment, it will result in polls in a given state were closed. the fears of the gentleman from more people being disenfranchised Susequently, in a letter to members of Congress, I urged Congress to enact a uni­ Oregon about the mischievous nature than have ever been disenfranchised form poll closing time and called on the of this particular amendment. because of discouragement of hearing other networks to join with ABC News in But I noticed in those three letters early results from another source out­ pledging not to characterize or hint at the from the networks, which are only side of their State. 688 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 For that reason, my amendment AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE [From the Journal of Public Opinion] says if we have to do it, let us do it OFFERED BY MR. FRENZEL SURVEY RESEARCH AND ELECTION NIGHT once only, and then look and see what Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, I PROJECTIONS kind of carnage we have created. If we offer an amendment in the nature of a an examination and analysis of the that early evening projections reduce turn­ ance of my time. effect of such availability on total voter par­ out, and that, in turn, affects contests below Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Chairman, I move ticipation and patterns of voter participa­ the presidency. to strike the last word, and I rise in op­ tion; and The issue remains unresolved, despite a position to the amendment. <2> an assessment of the need for, and the spate of studies going back to the 1964 elec­ I would suspect if this turned out to practicality of, a single poll closing time for tion, which have found that early evening be an unremitting and unyielding dis­ such elections in the continental United projections have no systematic effect on aster that the gentleman from Minne­ States. turnout. 1 Although the early studies used survey data, the sample sizes were so small sota would quietly inform the body of Not later than December 31, 1986, the Presi­ that the results have been questioned on that fact. dent shall report the results of the study to those grounds alone. The more recent stud­ This committee obviously is not the Congress. ies have used aggregate data-and are chal­ going to pass this legislation and walk Mr. FRENZEL [during the reading]. lenged on those grounds-or have used away from it. This committee clearly Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous con­ survey data-but have suffered from trying will want to take a look at how this sent the amendment in the nature of a to compare presidential and midterm elec­ works after the 1988 election, and we torates. substitute be considered as read and For example, a study we did, published in will hold detailed oversight hearings printed in the RECORD. 1981, looked at turnout from 1960 to 1980 and sound reason, is you try to come Minnesota? by using total votes cast as the numerator up with the most appropriately de­ There was no objection. and the voting age population as the denom­ fined legislation that you can, and you inator. 2 It showed that early evening projec­ pass it, and you watch it, and you Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, to tions did not diminish turnout on the West adjust it if necessary, and you repeal it give the body some advice, I believe Coast, at least when compared to turnout if it is necessary. that this is the last amendment that trends elsewhere in the country. This study the body will take up. I have tried to has been critized on the grounds that it is The idea that you are going to risky to speculate about individual behavior assume disaster is one that the gentle­ expedite the process. I have not asked from aggregate data. man would like to make because he op­ for recorded votes. It will be my inten­ A recently published study also used ag­ poses the legislation. He does not like tion to ask for a recorded vote on this gregate data, but with California's regis­ it, he does not think there is a prob­ particular amendment, and I hope I tered voters as the denominator and ballots lem, and he does not think we there­ would get it rather than go through cast on election day on voting behavior. Both were there was-ayes 8, noes 12. The article referred to follows: stratified random samples of the adult pop­ So the amendment was rejected. ulation in some of the 48 mainland states. January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 689 Of the original 2,579 respondents in the two This lack of specifically regarding time This implies that actual turnout may have samples, about 1,800 <69 percent> completed zones and regions may help to account for been decreased by 0.2 percent-in other the January telephone interview. This drop the peculiar regional coefficients Jackson words, if the four had voted, turnout would in the number of respondents from an oth­ reports in his various studies. have been 0.2 percent higher than it was. erwise representative national sample is a Third, Jackson uses one model to estimate THE FLAWS serious problem with the data. The author the likelihood of voting and then uses these Although survey research is a well-accept­ of a series of papers based on the data ac­ results to project turnout. Thus, he com­ knowledges that the January 1981 sample is ed and popular tool, there are problems as­ pounds normal error in the measurement of sociated with analyzing its results. One is neither random nor representative. 5 These variable with additional error in model esti­ data are, however, the best currently avail­ the inherent messiness of asking people to mation. Thus, it is very unclear what he is recall behavior which occurred several able. estimating or what the true values of the The questions asked of the respondents parameters really are. months before included: whether or not they had voted; the survey is conducted. This is true for all the time of day they had voted : their reasons for not voting if We steered away from sophisticated statis­ Jackson's. they had abstained; and several questions tical models, and looked instead at the Among the errors we found in Jackson's about the time of day they had first heard actual data collected by Michigan. First, we data are the following, determined by com­ reports or projections of election results. excluded from their sample respondents paring responses from the January 1981 Because these respondents were a subset of who were not registered to vote <22 respond­ survey with the earlier Vote Validation the entire national sample, their responses ents>. We allowed in our pool those who Survey: could be matched with Michigan's vote vali­ were registered and those for whom regis­ Eight self-reported nonvoters from the dation project, which used official voting tration information was missing or incom­ post-election survey reported in January records to determine whether each respond­ plete. This increased the pool of eligible that they had voted, and even gave a time at ent was registered to vote and whether the nonvoters-but not the pool of voters-and which they had putatively voted. respondent actually voted. Vote validation we may therefore be overstating the num­ Three self-reported voters from the post­ was critical because voting rates determined bers who did not vote because of early fore­ election survey reported in January that by surveys are routinely higher than actual casts. In the end, there were 1,778 respond­ they had not voted. rates. We used only the validated vote in ents in the sample. Seventy-four individuals reported in the our analysis. These respondents divided neatly into January survey that they had not voted be­ three groups: those who had voted ; cause they had not registered when, in fact, JACKSON'S RESEARCH those who had not voted (574>; and those they had. John Jackson, the principal investigator for whom there was missing information on Thus, at least 5 percent of the sample is of the January 1981 survey, has presented vote validation <157). known to have given the wrong information at least three papers analyzing these same Having identified these three categories of about their registration or voting behavior. data. 6 Using some fairly sophisticated statis­ respondents, we tried to establish who stated that they had never intended to ed Jackson's statement that there was a fair likelihood of individuals voting before or vote. Those who stated that they had in­ amount of misreporting of when news was after 6 p.m. local time . But since it was less likely for polls to 98 said they had decided not to vote before have no way to validate the time of vote, we close at 8:00 p.m., the probability Jackson election day, and 103 gave no answer to this assume that this, too, was subject to inaccu­ assigns for voting after 6:00 p.m. is undoubt­ question. racy. edly incorrect-network projections or no That brought us down to 45 respondents network projections. who had decided on election day not to vote, CONCLUSION Moreover, it appears that he used three and so may have been affected by election Our purpose here is not to challenge the time zones instead of four. Additionally, he night news. When asked for their reasons integrity of survey research or to criticize asserts that the South and the East are on for abstaining, 41 of these 45 gave reasons the methodology employed by scholars at Eastern time, the Midwest is on · Central other than election night news . The remaining four respond­ wish to note that not all questions can be , 226-237; H. Mendelsohn, "Election-Day may show that the managers of the Broadcasts and Terminal Voting Decisions," Public bill's fears were legitimate. In my All I know is it is a bad thing for this Opinion Quarterly, 30 . doing their very best under very diffi­ 211-219. tee-and I would say here parentheti­ cult, expensive conditions to maintain 2 Laurily K . Epstein and Gerald S. Strom, "Elec­ cally, Mr. Chairman, that I really tion Night Projections and West Coast Turnout," regret being in opposition to the two their voting laws. American Politics Quarterly, 9 . 56-60. not take the time to disagree if I did Eight problem. That was a mess. I 6 John Jackson and William McGee, "Election Re­ would like not to have any more porting and Voter Turnout," Report of the Center not believe very strongly, very funda­ for Political Studies, The University of Michigan, mentally, that they are on the wrong counting errors. I would like to have Ann Arbor, 1981; John Jackson, "Election Report· track. And I think where they did go the States run their business in the ing and Voter Turnout," Center for Political Stud· best way that they know how and in a ies, Institute for Social Research, The University of wrong was where they got a little con­ Michigan, Ann Arbor, 1982; John Jackson, "Elec· fused between early poll closing, deal­ way that suits them and their citizens. tion Night Reporting and Voter Turnout," Ameri· ing with the networks, getting some I, there!ore, ask for a vote on my can Journal of Political Science, 27 . "We use poll clos­ must credit them for extraordinarily vides for a Presidential commission to ings of 8 PM local time for each region, assuming successful work in that regard-but report on the matter. that the east and south are on Eastern time, the them feeling they had to back it up midwest on Central time and the west on Pacific 0 1755 time." with a bill that forced Federal proce­ 8 Ibid. dures on States who are unwilling to Mr. WYDEN. Mr. Chairman, I move Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, the take them. to strike the requisite number of problem with the bill, of course, is Mr. Chairman, my personal poll of words, and I rise in opposition to the that, while it purports to protect the the chief election officials of all the amendment. votes of those in Washington, Oregon, States shows that 24 were against it Mr. Chairman, let us be very clear. and California, it dispatches in a cava­ and 23 were for it. Of the 23, more The gentleman from Minnesota wishes lier manner the votes of those in than one-half of them were not affect­ to put off the establishment of the Oregon and Hawaii and, at the same ed in their closing hours. Of the 24 uniform poll closing hour and, in January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 691 effect, have a Presidential study of the So I would ask for a no vote on this outside the polling place did, to intimi­ issue. amendment so that we can get on with date voters and to prevent them from I would just say that this is exactly passing the legislation. voting. what the committee has been doing Mr. ECKART of Ohio. Mr. Chair­ We prohibit people standing outside for the last 5 years. The committee man, I move to strike the requisite the polls for good reason. We prohibit has held numerous hearings. The com­ number of words, and I rise in opposi­ in many States the serving of alcohol, mittee has heard from scores of wit­ tion to the amendment. so that people can make informed in­ nesses. The committee has examined Mr. Chairman, the question is telligent decisions with a clear mind. Is very, very thoroughly every single pro­ whether the Congress is going to lead not an equally clear mind reflected in posal that has been put forward by or whether the Congress is going to what we do and do not make available any reputable source in the elections follow. I suppose if we took the sugges­ to voters sitting in their homes, with field. There is absolutely nothing that tion of my colleague from Minnesota the permeation of mass media and tel­ the President could do that has not al­ about avoiding clerical errors in the evision? ready been done in a bipartisan way elections, we could continue to con­ Yes, Mr. Chairman, the Frenzel by the gentleman from California and strict eligibility of voters, thereby re­ amendment is the ripper amendment. the gentleman from Washington, ex­ ducing them to almost a minimum and If you honestly believe that public amining the whole range of proposals thereby reducing dramatically the policy, that civic responsibility is going that have been offered over the years. number of people who actually vote. to serve all of us, then let us follow It seems to me that the time for addi­ There is an old saying that I saw the words of Lyndon Johnson who, tional studies and repetitive studies once in the boiler room of an old Navy has come to an end, and I think it is ship that went like this: When in trou­ when he signed the Voting Rights Act time to establish a uniform poll-clos­ ble, when in doubt, run in circles, Amendment, just about 20 years ago, ing law. scream and shout. said, 'The mandate of November's I oppose the amendment. I would add, in light of this amend­ election must be by the vote of the Mr. THOMAS of California. Mr. ment: Or in lieu thereof, if a Member people, not by the default of the Chairman, I move to strike the requi­ of Congress, form a committee and people." site number of words. study it to death. Mr. Chairman, the Frenzel amend­ Mr. Chairman, I have refrained from Well, that is exactly what this ment does egregious harm to this bill. examining the particulars of the gen­ amendment would do, and make no It tears it stem from stern and reduces tleman's research in terms of his num­ mistake about it. This is the gutting to those who truly want to believe in bers as to how many States favor or amendment. If you are in favor of en­ an open access of all people to all oppose it. I will have to say that I dis­ couraging people to have access to the facets of our Government that we agree fundamentally with his charac­ political process, if you truly believe really do not care about their prob­ terization of half for and half against. that the laboratory of American poli­ lems and, once again, another Presi­ The research that I have done and tics is in the living rooms and the dential study commission is going to that we have done indicate about 2 to streets and the roads and the byways be the answer. 1 for. But the thing that I think is of this country, then vote against this I urge the rejection of the Frenzel most impressive is the sacrifice willing amendment. If you truly believe that amendment. to be made by a number of States who economics is a major issue that ought Mr. TAUZIN. Mr. Chairman, I move perceive it to be a problem. to deter us from changing fundamen­ to strike the requisite number of For example, the State of Minnesota tal policy or ensuring people to have words. has indicated that although their polls rights and opportunities to access to Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to close at 8 p.m. central standard time, those changes, then vote against this the amendment. Those of you who be­ they would be willing to accept a 9 amendment, as others 130 years ago lieve that Congress has a reputation of p.m. closing time, in the interest of were urged to do in the name of eco­ always forming a committee to study a uniform poll closing. The State of New nomics to preserve slavery. Or if you problem to death and who believe that Jersey, which now closes at 8 p.m., truly believe, as one prominent candi­ that reputation is valid, let me assure said they would be willing to take a date for office said in 1976, upon suf­ you that we have already formed the later time. The State of Nebraska said, fering an electoral defeat in his own committee and we have already stud­ certainly, to solve the problem, a later right, "The reason I lost was too many ied this problem extensively. Let us time. North Dakota, yes, to solve a people voted." not, for heavens sake, repeat it, let us problem, a later time. Tennessee, yes, Mr. Chairman, we have learned a not create another study committee, they would go to 10 o'clock eastern lesson in the past few days, brought to this time lodged in the executive standard time. Rhode Island, which us most vividly and personally, the vis­ branch, to study the problem this leg­ currently closes at 9, said they would itation of tragedy in each and every islature has already studied in its com­ be willing to go to 10 o'clock to try to single one of this Nation's homes. mittees. That ought to be the last solve the problem. What the last few days should have thing we should do when we have per­ So it just is not a west coast prob­ underscored for us so dramatically ceived a serious problem in our Na­ lem. It is a problem that is perceived once and for all is the permeation of tion's most critical election, the elec­ as a problem across the Nation. television as a part of life of America, tion of our Chief Executive. I would tell the gentleman that if he our very heart and our very soul, Mr. Chairman, there are lots of ways would examine all of the hearings we bringing emotion, bringing sorrow and to deny American citizens the right to have had, they constitute a study, and bringing death into our homes. vote. If you look at American history, I personally do not think we ought to That is the same thing that is going you can see that ingenious devices give the job of making this decision in­ on in these elections, watching that have sometimes been designed. The volved with the election of Federal of­ big board behind those wonderful an­ old poll tax in the South was designed ficers, as outlined in the Constitution, chors fill up with the tidal wave to discourage certain classes of citizens to the executive branch. I think it logi­ sweeping from East to West of green, from voting. The registration laws of cally is reposed here. I think the sub­ blue, brown, red or white, indicating some States make it more difficult for committee and the committee has who has won or lost, thus chilling, some citizens to have access to this done its job, and the question is much in the same way that lawn signs, most sacred privilege in a democracy. whether or not the House of Repre­ much in the same way that people There are many ways that have been sentatives is going to join the Presi­ were accosting you before you go into designed to prevent citizens from dential contenders and is going to join the polls, much as in the olden days, having access to the polls. And then the networks in solving this problem. of the solicitation of liquor and money there are some ways not designed in- 692 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 tentionally, yet which have the same The committee amendment in the Gibbons Lundine Sabo Gilman Lungren Schumer results. If you watch the results of the nature of a substitute, as amended, Gonzalez MacKay Sharp way in which polls have closed across was agreed to. Gordon Manton Sikorski the nation and how voters in one part The CHAIRMAN. Under the rule, Gray CPA> Markey Skelton the Committee rises. Guarini Martinez Smith CIA> of the country have effectively been Gunderson Matsui Smith denied their real right to cast a ballot Accordingly the Committee rose; Hall, Ralph Mavroules Solarz in the Presidential election because and the Speaker pro tempore [Mr. Hamilton Mazzoli Spratt TORRES] having assumed the chair, Hawkins McCain St Germain someone has already told them the Hayes McCloskey Stallings election is over, it has already been de­ Mr. BARNARD, Chairman of the Com­ Hefner Mccurdy Stark cided, you would just as soon stay mittee of the Whole House on the Heftel McHugh Stenholm home, and if you knew the numbers of State of the Union, reported that that Hertel McKinney Stokes Committee, having had under consid­ Hopkins Mica Stratton elections that may have been affected Horton Mikulski Studds in congressional races out West by eration the bill Stump voters who did in fact stay home be­ title 3, United States Code, to estab­ Hoyer MillerCWA> Sundquist lish uniform regional poll closing Hubbard Mineta Swift cause they felt their right to vote had Huckaby Mitchell Synar been denied them by someone declar­ times in the continental United States Hughes Moody Tallon ing the election over before they even for Presidential general elections, pur­ Hunter Morrison Tauzin got in the care and went to the polling suant to House Resolution 329, he re­ Hutto Morrison Thomas ported the bill back to the House with Ireland Mrazek Torres place, you would know that what has Jacobs Murphy Torricelli happened in our society because of an amendment adopted by the Com­ Johnson Neal Towns this wonderful instrument of televi­ mittee of the Whole. Jones Nelson Traficant The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under Kanjorski Nowak Traxler sion is that some new device unintend­ the rule, the previous question is or­ Kastenrneier Oberstar Vento ed but nevertheless a device has been Kennelly Ortiz Visclosky dered. Kildee Owens Vucanovich established in our society that equally Is a separate vote demanded on any Kleczka Panetta Walgren prevents citizens from voting in this amendment to the committee amend­ Kolter Pease Watkins most critical of all elections, the selec­ Kostmayer Penny Waxman ment in the nature of a substitute LaFalce Pepper Weaver tion of our Chief Executive. adopted by the Committee of the Lantos Pickle Weiss This is what the Congress in the Whole? If not, the question is on the Lehman Price Wheat work we have done in studying this amendment. Leland Rangel Wilson Hill and presenting this solution has Lent Reid Wirth The amendment was agreed to. Levin Ridge Wyden with the help of the networks, with question is on the engrossment and Lipinski Robinson Yates the help of the Presidential candi­ Lloyd Rodino Yatron third reading of the bill. Lowery Rose YoungCAK> dates, with the advice of many in our The bill was ordered to be engrossed Lowry Roybal Young society through extensive hearings. and read a third time, and was read We do not need another Presidential the third time. NAYS-171 study. That is simply another way to Archer Evans CIA> McGrath The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Armey Fawell McKernan kill the solution to a serious problem. question is on the passage of the bill. Bad ham Fiedler McMillan I suggest to my good friend perhaps The question was taken; and on a di­ Bartlett Fields Meyers he should have made it a Vice Presi­ vision (demanded by Mr. FRENZEL) Barton Franklin Michel Bateman Frenzel Molinari dential study. Our President has a lot there were-ayes 22, noes 16. Bedell Gallo Mollohan to do other than to study this issue. Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Speaker, I object Bevill Gekas Monson We have studied it extensively. It is to the vote on the ground that a Bilirakis Gingrich Montgomery Bliley Glickman Moore time now to come up with a solution. quorum is not present and make the Boehlert Goodling Moorhead We have presented a reasonable one to point of order that a quorum is not Borski Gradison Myers · this body. It is time now to vote on it. present. Boucher Green Natcher Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Chairman, will The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi­ Boulter Gregg Nichols Broomfield Hall Nielson the gentleman yield? dently a quorum is not present. Brown Hammerschmidt Obey Mr. TAUZIN. I yield to the gentle­ The Sergeant at Arms will notify Broyhill Hansen Oxley man from Minnesota. absent Members. Bruce Hartnett Packard Burton CIN> Hendon Parris Mr. FRENZEL. I thank the gentle­ The vote was taken by electronic Callahan Henry Pashayan man for yielding. device, and there were-yeas 204, nays Campbell Hiler Perkins I thank you both for your good 171, not voting 59, as follows: Carney Hillis Petri Chappie Holt Porter advice, and I take this opportunity to [Roll No. 91 Cheney Hyde Pursell advise that I shall not ask for a vote YEAS-204 Clinger Jeffords Rahall on this amendment. So those who are Coats Jenkins Ray Ackerman Breaux Dorgan Cobey Kaptur Regula making plans for the night should be Akaka Brooks Downey Coble Kasich Rinaldo advised there will likely be only a vote Anderson Brown CCA> Dwyer Coleman CMO> Kindness Ritter on final passage. Annunzio Bryant Dymally Combest Kolbe Roberts Applegate Bustamante Dyson Conte Kramer Rogers The CHAIRMAN. The question is on Asp in Carper Eckart COH> Coughlin Lagomarsino Rowland the amendment in the nature of a sub­ Atkins Carr Edgar Craig Latta Rowland Au Coin Chandler Edwards CCA> Daniel Leach CIA) Rudd stitute offered by the gentleman from Barnard Chapman English Minnesota [Mr. FRENZEL]. Darden Levine Saxton Barnes Chappell Evans CIL) Daub Lewis Schaefer The question was taken; and on a di­ Bates Clay Fazio Davis Lightfoot Schneider Beilenson Coelho Feighan DeLay Livingston Schroeder vision Fish there were-ayes 13, noes 19. DeWine Lott Schuette Bereuter Conyers Florio Dickinson Lujan Schulze So the amendment in the nature of Berman Cooper Foglietta DioGuardi Luken Sensenbrenner Blagg! Courter Ford CMU Dreier Mack Shaw a substitute was rejected. · Boggs The CHAIRMAN. Are there other Coyne Ford CTN> Duncan Madigan Shelby Boland Crockett Frost Durbin Martin Shumway amendments? Boner CTN> Dannemeyer Fuqua Eckert Martin Shuster If not, the question is on the com­ Bonior Daschle Garcia Edwards COK> McCandless Sisisky mittee amendment in the nature of a Bonker Dellums Gaydos Emerson McColl um Slattery Bosco Dicks GeJdenson Erdreich McEwen Slaughter substitute, as amended. Boxer Dingell Gephardt January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 693 Smith Strang Weber The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is f3J In section 3302fi)(5J, strike "charter" Smith Sweeney Whitehurst there objection to the request of the and substitute "charterer". Smith, Denny Swindall Whitley f4) At the end of section 3302, add the fol­ Tauke Whittaker gentleman from Washington? Smith, Robert Taylor Wise There was no objection. lowing new subsection: Thomas Woll "fkJ Only the boiler, engine, and other op­ Snowe Valentine Wortley erating machinery of a steam vessel that is a Solomon Vander Jagt Wylie 0 1830 recreational vessel of not more than 65 feet Spence Volkmer Zschau overall in length are subject to inspection Stangeland Walker REMOVAL OF NAME OF MEMBER under section 3301 f9J of this title.". NOT VOTING-59 AS COSPONSOR OF H.R. 3609 f5)(AJ Section 3304 is amended as follows: Addabbo Frank Roe fi.! In the section catchline, strike "Carry­ Alexander Gray Roemer Mrs. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, I ask ing" and substitute "Transporting". Andrews Grotberg Rostenkowski unanimous consent that my name be fiiJ In subsection fa), strike "carrying Anthony Hatcher Roth removed as a cosponsor of the bill, cargo that carries" and "vesseL " and substi­ Bentley Jones Roukema H.R. 3609. tute "transporting cargo that transports" Burton Jones Russo Byron Kemp Savage The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is and "vessel if the vessel is otherwise subject Collins Leath Scheuer there objection to the request of the to inspection under this chapter.", respec­ Crane Lehman Seiberling gentlewoman form Tennessee? tively. de la Garza Loeffler Siljander There was no objection. fiiiJ In subsection fbJ, strike "Before an Derrick Long Skeen individual in addition to the crew is car­ Dixon Marlenee Smith, Robert ried" and substitute "Except when subsec­ Donnelly McDade Doman Miller Snyder MAKING MISCELLANEOUS tion feJ of this section applies, before an in­ Dowdy Moakley Staggers CHANGES IN LAWS AFFECTING dividual in addition to the crew is trans­ Early Murtha Udall U.S. COAST GUARD ported". Fascell O'Brien Whitten fivJ In subsection fcJ, strike "The privi­ Flippo Oakar Williams Mr. JONES of North Carolina. Mr. lege" and substitute "A privilege". Foley Olin Wright Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to fvJ Add at the end the following new sub­ Fowler Quillen Young take from the Speaker's table the bill section: 0 1820 to make miscellaneous "feJ The Secretary may by regulation changes in laws affecting the U.S. allow individuals in addition to the crew to The Clerk announced the following be transported in an emergency or under pairs: Coast Guard, and for other purposes, with a Senate amendment thereto, section 2304 of this title.". On this vote: fBJ In item 3304 in the analysis of chapter Mr. Jones of Tennessee for, with Mr. and concur in the Senate amendment. 33, strike "Carrying" and substitute "Trans­ Crane against. The Clerk read the title of the bill. porting". Mr. Addabbo for, with Mr. Grotberg The Clerk read the Senate amend­ f6J In section 3318ffJ, before clause (lJ, against. ment, as follows: strike "then" wherever it appears and sub­ Mrs. Burton of California for, with Mr. Strike out all after the enacting clause stitute "than". O'Brien against. and insert: f7)(AJ Section 3503 is amended as follows: Mrs. Collins for, with Mr. Kemp against. That subtitle II of title 46, United States fiJ Insert "fa)" at the beginning of the sec­ Mr. MOLINARI changed his vote Code, is amended as follows: tion. from "yea" to "nay." flJ In section 2101f14)(CJ, strike "Materi­ fiiJ Strike the last sentence and substitute So the bill was passed. al" and substitute "Materials". "Before November 1, 1993, this section does The result of the vote was an­ f2) Section 2101f21J is amended as follows: not apply to a vessel in operation before nounced as above recorded. fAJ In subclause fA)(iiJ, strike "crewmem­ January 1, 1968, and operating only on the The title was amended so as to read: ber. " and substitute "crewmember or other inland rivers.". "A bill to amend title 3, United States individual engaged in the business of the fiii) Add at the end the following: Code, and the Uniform Time Act of vessel who has not contributed consider­ "fb)(l) When a vessel is exempted from the 1966 to establish a single poll closing ation for carriage on board the vesseL ". fire-retardant standards of this section- fBJ Strike subclause fB)(vJ-fviiJ and sub­ "fAJ the owner or managing operator of time in the continental United States stitute the following: the vessel shall notify prospective passengers for Presidential general elections." "(vJ a guest on board a vessel being oper­ that the vessel does not comply with appli­ A motion to reconsider was laid on ated only for pleasure who has not contrib­ cable fire safety standards due primarily to the table. uted consideration for carriage on board; or the wooden construction of passenger berth­ "fviJ an individual on board a towing ing areas; vessel of at least 50 gross tons who has not "(BJ the owner or managing operator of AUTHORIZING THE CLERK TO contributed consideration for carriage on the vessel may not disclaim liability to a MAKE CORRECTIONS IN EN­ board. ". passenger for death, injury, or any other loss GROSSMENT OF H.R. 3525 fCJ At the end, add the following new sub­ caused by fire due to the negligence of the Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Speaker, I ask clause: owner or managing operator; and unanimous consent that in the en­ " fFJ on a sailing school vessel, means an "fCJ the penalties provided in section grossment of the bill, H.R. 3525, the individual carried on the vessel except- 3504fcJ of this title apply to a violation of "fiJ the owner or representatives of the this subsection. Clerk be authorized to make correc­ owner; "(2J The Secretary shall prescribe regula­ tions in section numbers, punctuation, " fiiJ the master or a crewmember engaged tions under this subsection on the manner and cross-references, and to make such in the business of the vessel who has not in which prospective passengers are to be other technical and conforming contributed consideration for carriage and notified. ". changes as may be necessary. who is paid for services; fBJ Until the regulations required by The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is "fiiiJ an employee of the owner of the clause f7J of this section become effective, there objection to the request of the vessel engaged in the business of the owner, the owner or managing operator shall notify gentleman from Washington? except when the vessel is operating under a prospective passengers in all promotional There was no objection. demise charter; literature and on each ticket that the vessel "fivJ an employee of the demise charterer does not comply with those standards due of the vessel engaged in the business of the primarily to the wooden construction of GENERAL LEAVE demise charterer; passenger berthing areas. " fvJ a guest on board the vessel who has f8J In section 3714fa)(4J, strike "charter" Mr. SWIFT. Mr. Speaker, I ask not contributed consideration for carriage and substitute "charterer". unanimous consent that all Members on board; or f9J Section 4308 is amended by striking may have 5 legislative days in which to "fviJ a sailing school instructor or sailing " operator" wherever it appears and substi­ revise and extend their remarks and to school student.". tuting "individual in charge". include extraneous matter on H.R. fDJ Strike "or a sailing school vessel," in fl OJ In section 7111, strike " Part" and sub­ 3525, the bill just passed. clause fBJ. stitute "part". 694 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 f11J In section 7312feJ, strike "able SEC. 6. The Coast Guard may enter into that the terms of those members first ap­ seaman-limited" and substitute "able any agreement or letter of intent with a mu­ pointed under subsections fc)(1J fAJ, fBJ, seamen-limited". nicipal utility within the Seventeenth Coast and fCJ shall be for two years. The Secretary f12J Section 8104fkJ is amended by strik­ Guard District to provide electricity to a shall, not less often than once a year, pub­ ing "watchers" and substituting "watches". Coast Guard facility without complying lish notice in the Federal Register for solici­ f13J In section 8502fa)(4)(AJ, strike "Part" with the provisions of section 14 of Public tation of nominations for membership on and substitute "part". Law 98-557. the Committee. f14J Chapter 89 is amended as follows: SEC. 7. fa) There is established a National fc)(1J Members of the Committee who are fAJ In item 8903 in the chapter analysis, Offshore Vessel Operators Safety Advisory not officers or employees of the United strike "Uninspected" and substitute "Self­ Committee (hereinafter in this section re­ States shall serve without pay and members propelled, uninspected". ferred to as the "Committee"). The Commit­ of the Committee who are officers or employ­ fBJ In the catchline of section 8903, strike tee shall advise, consult with, and make rec­ ees of the United States shall receive no ad­ "Uninspected" and substitute "Self-pro­ ommendations to the Secretary of the de­ ditional pay on account of their service on pelled, uninspected". partment in which the Coast Guard is oper­ the Committee. While away from their fCJ In the text of section 8903, strike "An" ating (hereinafter in this section referred to homes or regular places of business, mem­ and substitute "A self-propelled,". as the "Secretary") on matters relating to bers of the Committee may be allowed travel f15J In section 10709fa)(1J, before clause the safety aspects of offshore oil, gas, and expenses, including per diem in lieu of sub­ fAJ- other mineral operations subject to regula­ sistence, as authorized by section 5703 of fAJ strike "then $1,500 in value, and" and tion by the Secretary. The Secretary shall, substitute "than $1,500 in value, the court,",· title 5, United States Code. The Secretary whenever practicable, consult the Commit­ and shall furnish to the Committee an executive fBJ strike "wages, the court" and substi­ tee concerning proposed or desirable actions secretary and such secretarial, clerical, and tute "wages, ". affecting the safety of such offshore oper­ other services as are considered necessary f16J Section 12122faJ is amended by ations. Any advice or recommendation for the conduct of its business. There are au­ adding at the end the following sentence: made by the Committee to the Secretary thorized to be appropriated such sums as "Each day of a continuing violation is a shall reflect the independent judgment of the may be necessary to implement the provi­ separate violation.". Committee on the matter concerned. The sions of this section. f17J In section 13102fa)(4J, strike "coordi­ Committee is authorized to make available f2J Unless extended by subsequent Act of nate carrying the State" and substitute "co­ to Congress any information, advice, and Congress, the Committee shall terminate ordinate carrying out the State". recommendations which the Committee is five years from the date of enactment of this f18J Section 13104fbJ is amended by in­ authorized to give to the Secretary. The section. serting after "Secretary" the words "for Committee shall meet at the call of the Sec­ SEc. 8. Bayou Lafourche, in the State of State recreational boating safety programs". retary, but in any event not less than once Louisiana, between Canal Boulevard, city of f19J Chapter III is amended as follows: during each calendar year. All proceedings Thibodaux, Parish of Lafourche and the fAJ At the end of the chapter analysis, add of the Committee shall comply with the Fed­ Southern Pacific Railroad bridge crossing the following new item: eral Advisory Committee Act f5 U.S.C. App. the bayou, city of Thibodaux, Parish of La­ 1 et seq.). fourche, is hereby declared to be a nonnav­ "11112. Master's lien/or wages.". fb)(1J The Committee shall consist of fif­ igable waterway of the United States within fBJ At the end of the chapter, add the fol­ teen members, who have particular exper­ the meaning of the General Bridge Act of lowing new section: tise, knowledge, and experience regarding 1946 (33 U.S.C. 525 et seq.). "§ JJJJ2. Master's lien for wages the transportation and other technology, SEC. 9. Notwithstanding sections 12105, equipment, and techniques that are used, or 12106, 12107 and 12108 of title 46, United "The master of a documented vessel has are being developed for use, in the explora­ States Code, and section 27 of the Merchant the same lien against the vessel for the mas­ tion for, or the recovery of, offshore oil, gas, Marine Act, 1920 f46 U.S.C. App. 883), asap­ ter's wages and the same priority as any or other mineral resources, as follows: plicable on the date of enactment of this Act, other seaman serving on the vessel.". fAJ Two members representing enterprises the Secretary of the department in which the SEc. 2. fa) The Coast Guard may enter engaged in the production of oil, gas, or Coast Guard is operating may issue a certif­ into a lease in excess of one fiscal year to ac­ other mineral resources, except that not quire a site on the State pier in New Bed­ icate of documentation for the following more than one member may represent com­ vessels: MARILYN, Maryland registration ford, Massachusetts, for construction of maintenance assistance team and vessel panies included on the list of restricted joint number MD 3533 AA; ROYAL STAR, Michi­ support facilities on that pier. bidders prepared by the Department of the gan registration number MC 9707 J; ALAS­ fbJ Any lease under this section is effective Interior,· KAN SHORES, United States official only to the extent that amounts are provided fBJ Two members representing enterprises number 603879; SHEARWATER, United for in appropriations laws. specializing in offshore drilling; States official number 260827; GYPSY fcJ Notwithstanding section 322 of the Act fCJ Two members representing enterprises ROSE, California registration number CF of June 30, 1932 f40 U.S.C. 278aJ, and begin­ specializing in the supply of offshore oil, 4291 HF; ELIMINATOR, United States offi­ ning in fiscal year 1986, the Coast Guard gas, or other mineral exploration or recov­ cial number 507572; PUKA KAI, United may spend appropriated amounts for the ery operations by water; States official number 677462; LOBSTER construction of fixed facilities and improve­ fDJ Three members representing general HOUSE, Panama registration number 494- ments on that portion of the State pier support services for offshore oil and gas ac­ PEXT; JANE E., Bahamian official number leased from Massachusetts for the use of a tivities, including construction, diving, geo­ 315924; and DIANE M., Bahamian official maintenance assistance team and Coast physical, and helicopter services; number 315925, except that such vessels Guard vessels. fEJ Two members representing individuals JANE E and DIANE M. may be operated SEC. 3. Notwithstanding any other law, the employed in offshore operations; under such documentation only in the Coast Guard Yard, Curtis Bay, Maryland, fFJ Two members representing environ­ waters of the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf of and the Coast Guard Aircraft Repair and mental interests; and Mexico. Supply Center, Elizabeth City, North Caroli­ fGJ Two members representing the general SEC. 10. Any use or expenditure of funds by na, are exempt from statutory and adminis­ public. the Coast Guard related to the alteration of trative personnel ceilings through Septem­ f2J The Secretary shall appoint the mem­ the Burlington-Northern Railroad Bridge at ber 30, 1988. bers of the Committee after first soliciting mile 6.9 on the Willamette River in Port­ SEC. 4. The body of water known as Law­ nominations by notice published in the Fed­ land, Oregon shall be subject to the first six yer's Ditch located at block 5000 in the city eral Register. The Secretary may request the sections of the Act of March 3, 1931 f40 of Newark, County of Essex, New Jersey, is head of any other Federal agency or depart­ U.S.C. 276a through 276a-5J. declared to be a nonnavigable waterway of ment to designate a representative to advise SEC. 11. Section 2faJ of the Act entitled the United States within the meaning of the the Committee on matters within the juris­ "An Act to facilitate increased enforcement General Bridge Act of 1946 f33 U.S.C. 525 et diction of that agency or department. by the Coast Guard of laws relating to the seq.J. f3J The Committee shall elect, by majority importation of controlled substances, and SEC. 5. Notwithstanding the last sentence vote at its first meeting, one of the members for other purposes", approved September 15, of section 81 of title 14 of the United States of the Committee as the Chairman and one 1980 f21 U.S.C. 955bfaJJ, is amended by in­ Code, the Coast Guard may not, except for of the members as the Vice Chairman. The serting immediately before the period the the installation of fixed aids to navigation, Vice Chairman shall act as Chairman in the following: ", except that an event otherwise carry out by contract the determination of absence or incapacity of, or in the event of a qualifying as an arrangement under such the location, or the placement, of aids to vacancy in, the Office of the Chairman. section does not lose that qualification by maritime navigation in the Intracoastal f4J Terms of members appointed to the the fact that consent to, or the terms of, such Waterway in New Jersey. Committee shall be for three years, except arrangement are communicated by radio, January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 695 telephone, or other similar means, or by how fDJ vessel design, construction, mainte­ respective departments. The Secretary's des­ specific such arrangement is as to the vessel nance, and operation; and ignated representative shall act as executive to which such arrangement applies". fEJ personnel qualifications and training. secretary for the Committee and perform the SEC. 12. The Coast Guard may enter into a f2J The Secretary, and the Secretary of duties specified in section 10fcJ of the Feder­ cost-sharing arrangement with the City of Commerce, shall use the information, al Advisory Committee Act f5 U.S.C. App. Cape May, New Jersey under which the City advice, and recommendations of the Com­ 10fcJJ. of Cape May will provide necessary roadway mittee in consulting with other agencies feH1J The Secretary shall, whenever prac­ improvement on and along Pennsylvania and the public or in formulating policy re­ ticable, except regarding issues which could Avenue between Pittsburg and BU,ffalo Ave­ garding commercial fishing industry vessels. compromise national security, consult with nues, as abutted by housing owned by the f3J The Committee shall meet at the call of the Committee concerning the following ac­ Coast Guard. For purposes of entering into the Secretary, but not less often than once tions affecting commercial fishing industry such an arrangement, the Coast Guard may during each calendar year. vessels- expend from previously-appropriated funds f4J Any advice or recommendations made fAJ proposing legislation; an amount not to exceed $200,000 on a non­ by the Committee shall reflect the independ­ fBJ proposing or publishing a regulation,· recurring basis. ent judgment of the Committee on the fCJ authorizing or conducting research or SEC. 13. Section 2103 of title 46, United matter concerned. a study; or States Code, is amended by striking all ajter f5J The Committee may make available to fDJ taking any other major action of the "subtitle" the third time it appears and sub­ Congress any information, advice, and rec­ United States Government relating to the stituting ". The Secretary may prescribe reg­ ommendations which the Committee is au­ Committee's purpose and duties as set forth ulations to carry out the provisions of this thorized to give to the Secretary. in subsection fcH1J of this section. subtitle.". fdH1J The Committee shall consist of sev­ f2J Consultation with the Committee shall SEC. 14. Section 4370faJ of the Revised enteen members with particular expertise, be deemed to satisfy all requirements of title Statutes of the United States f46 U.S.C. App. knowledge, and experience regarding the 46, United States Code, for consulting with 316faJJ is amended- commercial fishing industry, as follows: representatives of the private sector having f1J by striking all from "a certificate of fAJ ten members from the commercial fish­ experience in the operation of commercial registry," through "the Act of June 7, 1918, ing industry who reflect a regional and rep­ fishing industry vessels. as amended ru.s.c., 1934 edition, Supp. rv, resentational balance, and have experience ff)(1J Except as otherwise provided in title 46, sec. 288)," and substituting "a cer­ in the operation of commercial fishing in­ paragraph f3J of this subsection, a member tificate of documentation issued under sec­ dustry vessels, or have experience as a crew of the Committee, when attending meetings tions 12106 or 12107 of title 46, United member or processing line worker on a com­ of the Committee or when otherwise engaged States Code,"; and mercial fishing industry vessel,· in the business of the Committee, shall serve f2J by striking "a vessel of foreign registry, fBJ two members from each of the follow­ without pay. While away from their homes or a vessel in distress," and substituting "a ing: or regular places of business, members of the vessel in distress". fiJ underwriters engaged in insuring com­ Committee may be allowed travel or trans­ SEC. 15. Section 3 of the Shipping Act of mercial fishing industry vessels; and portation expenses, including per diem in 1984 f46 U.S.C. App. 1702) is amended- fiiJ the general public, including, when­ lieu of subsistence, as authorized by section f1J in paragraph 6, fAJ by striking the ever possible, a member of a national orga­ 5703 of title 5, United States Code. period at the end of subparagraph (BJ and nization composed of commercial fishing f2J Any payment made under this subsec­ substituting a comma, and fBJ by adding at industry vessel and marine insurance inter­ tion shall not render a member of the Com­ the end thereof the following: "except that ests; and mittee a member of the uniformed services the terms does not include a common carrier fCJ one member from each of the follow­ fas defined in section 101f3J of title 37, engaged in ocean transportation by ferry ing- United States CodeJ, or an officer or employ­ boat, ocean tramp, or chemical parcel­ fiJ naval architects or marine surveyors; ee of the United States for any purpose. tanker. As used in this paragraph, 'chemical fiiJ manU,facturers of fishing industry f3J A member of the Committee who is a parcel-tanker' means a vessel whose cargo­ vessel equipment; and member of the uniformed services or an offi­ carrying capability consists of individual fiiiJ education or training professionals cer or employee of the United States may not cargo tanks for bulk chemicals that are a related to commercial fishing industry receive additional pay on account of such permanent part of the vessel, that have seg­ vessel sajety or personnel qualifications. member's service on the Committee, but a regation capability with piping systems to f2J At least once each year, the Secretary member of the Committee who is a member permit simultaneous carriage of several bulk shall publish a notice in the Federal Register of the uniformed services shall be allowed chemical cargoes with minimum risk of and in newspapers of general circulation in travel or transportation expenses under sec­ cross-contamination, and that has a valid coastal areas soliciting nominations for tion 5703 of title 5, United States Code, certificate of fitness under the International membership on the Committee. After timely unless such member is otherwise entitled to Maritime Organization Code for the Con­ notice is published, the Secretary shall ap­ such expenses under any other provision of struction and Equipment of Ships Carrying point the members of the Committee. A law. Dangerous Chemicals in Bulk."; and member may be reappointed to any number f4J The Secretary shall furnish the Com­ f2J in paragraph f18J, by striking all from of terms. mittee an executive secretary and such sec­ the semi-colon and substituting a period. f3J The term of a member is three years, retarial, clerical and other services as are SEc. 16. faJ As used in this section, the except that- necessary for the conduct of the Committee's term- fAJ initially, one-third of the members business. f1J "commercial fishing industry vessel" shall serve a term of one year and one-third fg)(1J The Committee shall terminate on means a fishing vessel, fish processing of the members shall serve a term of two September 30, 1991. vessel, or fish tender vessel, as those terms years, to be determined by lot at the first f2J Two years prior to the date of its termi­ are defined in section 2101 of title 46, meeting of the Committee; nation, the Committee shall submit to the United States Code; fBJ initially, terms may be adjusted to co­ Congress its recommendation as to whether f2J "Committee" means the Commerical incide with the Government's fiscal year; the Committee should be renewed and con­ Fishing Industry Vessel Sajety Advisory and tinued beyond such termination date. Committee established in subsection fbJ of fCJ if a vacancy occurs, the Secretary shall fhJ There are authorized to be appropri­ this section; and appoint a member to fill the remainder of ated such amounts as may be necessary to f3J "Secretary" means the Secretary of the the vacated tenn. carry out the provisions of this section. department in which the Coast Guard is op­ f4J The Committee shall elect one of its SEc. 17. Notwithstanding the provisions of erating. members as the Chairman and one of its the Act entitled "An Act to authorize the Sec­ fbJ There is established a Commercial members as the Vice Chairman. The Vice retary of Commerce to sell two obsolete ves­ Fishing Industry Vessel Safety Advisory Chairman shall act as Chairman in the ab­ sels to Coast Line Company and for other Committee as an advisory committee of the sence or incapacity of, or in the event of a purposes", approved June 3, 1980 f Public United States Government reporting to the vacancy in the office of, the Chairman. Law 96-260; 94 Stat. 435J, the Secretary of Secretary. f5J The Secretary and the Secretary of Transportation shall permit the vessels fc)(1J The Committee shall advise, consult Commerce shall, and any other interested PICTOR, United States official number with, and make recommendations to the agency may, designate a representative to 243529, PROCYON, United States official Secretary on matters relating to commercial participate as an observer with the Commit­ number 244022, and ZELIMA, United States fishing industry vessels, including- tee. These representatives shall, as appropri­ official number 248207, to be scrapped in the f AJ navigation sajety; ate, report to and advise the Committee on foreign market if- fBJ sajety equipment and procedures; matters relating to commercial fishing in­ f 1J the purchaser of such vessels and the fCJ marine insurance; dustry vessels under the jurisdiction of their country in which such vessels are to be 696 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 scrapped are acceptable to the Secretary of Mr. JONES of North Carolina. Mr. Section 18 allows two vessels to be Transportation; and Speaker, I thank the gentleman for sold to a foreign purchaser if neither (2) the seller of any such vessel agrees in yielding. the Secretary of Transportation nor writing to reimburse the United States a Mr. Speaker, this bill, as passed by reasonable amount, acceptable to the Secre­ the Secretary of the Navy elect to buy tary of Transportation, of not less than one­ the House on June 29, 1985, under sus­ them at world market prices. hal! of the profits realized from such sale. pension of the rules, contained miscel­ New section 19 is the same as in sec­ SEC. 18. Notwithstanding any other provi­ laneous provisions of law affecting tion 10 of the House bill with a minor sion of law or any agreement with the Coast Guard operations. The bill re­ change. It allows the Port of Houston United States Government, the vessels PA UL turned from the Senate retains nearly authority to seek up to $450,000 in re­ BUNYAN, United States official number all of these provisions in essentially imbursement from the Coast Guard 602272, and JOHN HENRY, United States the same form. The Senate has added for alteration of a bridge. official number 599294, may be sold to a for­ several minor amendments, but I do New section 20 allows the sale of a eign purchaser or purchasers if- not think that any of them are contro­ tugboat free of the requirements re­ (1) the person desiring to sell the vessel versial. submits to the Secretary of Transportation sulting from CDS payments. Mr. Speaker, this bill was brought Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Speaker, and the Secretary of the Navy a written offer up for unanimous consent back on De­ under which the Secretary of Transporta­ the explanation of the gentleman tion may elect to acquire either or both ves· cember 19. At that time, my colleague from North Carolina satisfies me. sels for the National Defense Reserve Fleet from the State of California, Mr. Mr. Speaker, I too rise in support of or the Secretary of the Navy may elect to ac­ BADHAM, objected to considering the H.R. 2466, a bill that makes a variety quire either or both vessels for the Ready Re­ bill so late in the evening on the clos­ of changes in laws administered by or serve Fleet, under the same terms and condi­ ing night of the first session. Subse­ affecting the Coast Guard. In particu­ tions as those offered by the foreign purchas­ quently, Mr. BADHAM wrote this letter er or purchasers; and to me withdrawing his objection to the lar, this bill includes provisions deal­ (2) neither Secretary elects to acquire the bill's passage. · ing with: vessel within 60 days after the date on which Mr. Speaker, I know of no controver­ The operation, sale, or scrapping of a written offer is submitted to the Secretar­ sies regarding these Senate amend­ various merchant vessels documented ies under paragraph (1) of this subsection. ments and believe that both majority by the Coast Guard; SEC. 19. The Port of Houston Authority and minority leaders of the Merchant Exemptions for certain permits in bridge over Greens Bayou approximately Marine and Fisheries Committee are the Coast Guard Bridge Program; two and eight-tenths miles upstream of the Technical, conforming, and miscella­ con./luence of Greens Bayou, Texas and the prepared to recommend that the Houston Ship Channel is declared to be a House accept them. neous changes to the shipping laws in lawful bridge for all purposes of the Act enti­ Let me describe the Senate amend­ title 46, United States Code, adminis­ tled "An Act to provide for the alteration of ments. tered by the Coast Guard; certain bridges over navigable waters of the New section 9 waives the restrictions Enhancement of Coast Guard drug United States, for the apportionment of the in coastwise laws for certain vessels. law enforcement authority on the cost of such alterations between the United The House have previously approved high seas; States and the owners of such a bridge, and Establishment of two needed Coast for other purposes", approved June 21, 1940 most of these in a private bill, H.R. f33 U.S.C. 511 et seq.). The Secretary of the 739. Guard advisory committees to address department in which the Coast Guard is op­ New section 11 clarifies statutory various matters and problems in off­ erating is authorized to ;·eimburse the owner provisions to facilitate drug enforce­ shore oil and gas development and re­ of the bridge for work done prior to the date ment activities of the Coast Guard. garding the safety of and insurance of enactment of this section that would be New section 12 provides authority for fishing industry vessels-with the responsibility of the United States under for the Coast Guard to share costs regard to the purpose of the Commer­ the Act of June 21, 1940 (33 U.S.C. 511 et with Cape May, NJ, for improvements cial Fishing Industry Vessel Advisory seq.) if performed after the date of enact­ Committee, I refer you to the remarks ment of this section, except that such reim­ of roads. bursement shall not exceed $450,000. New section 13 gives the Secretary of my colleague, and ranking minority SEC. 20. Notwithstanding any other provi­ of Transportation explicit authority to member of our committee, Hon. sion of law or of prior contract with the prescribe regulations relating to NORMAN LENT on July 17, 1985, the United States, the United States flag tug marine safety and seamen's welfare. date he and I introduced H.R. 3025, a MOIR, official Coast Guard number 60018, New section 14 amends the towing bill to create such a committee; and shall not be subject to the requirements of vessel statutes to close a loophole that Certairi authorizations or restric­ section 506 of the Merchant Marine Act, allows foreign tugs to be used to tow tions regarding day-to-day Coast 1936 (46 U.S.C. App. 1156). foreign registry vessels in U.S. ports. Guard administrative and manage­ Mr. JONES of North Carolina New section 15 resolves an ambiguity ment matters, including letting the , his constituent. It is bad legislation because it was Mr. BROWN of Colorado. Mr. drawn without hearings, adopted in a ready, we see that its arithmetic does Speaker, I rise today to honor the spate of political expedience and cow­ not work, while the White House memory of a former colleague. J. ardice, and perfected in an atmosphere steadfastly denies this basic reality. Edgar Chenoweth served in the U.S. of panic and coercion. It is bad legisla­ Already, we see that the administra­ House of Representatives for 22 years, tion because it attempts to repeal the tion continues, as it has all along, to longer than any Republican in the his­ processes of reason, judgment, and re­ deny both its own responsibility and to tory of Colorado. He passed away sponsibility, and replace them with a refuse to provide leadership, even to Thursday, January 2, after a brief ill­ rigid, unreasoning, and unyielding eco­ its own partisans. Already, we see the ness, at the age of 88. nomic fantasy, a fantasy that assumes Budget Office redoubling its usual Judge Chenoweth, as he was fondly the long discredited fairy tale of smoke and mirrors effort to disguise known in the old Third Congressional voodoo economics is true, after all. the failures of the administration's District in Colorado, was first elected Gramm-Rudman is bad policy, for fiscal program, and rationalize away to this body in 1940. He was a warm, many reasons. It is bad policy because the real cause-which is voodoo eco­ generous, and able man who served his it creates bizarre effects. It requires nomics. district exceptionally well. Although activities that are self-supporting and We in Congress cannot evade our re­ he was a Republican in a largely profitable to the Government to be sponsibility to establish responsible Democratic district, the people of east­ cut, even though the result is actually and workable national policy. Nor can ern Colorado appreciated his many to increase the deficit the law is sup­ the President. But Gramm-Rudman outstanding qualities, and elected posed to be reducing. It is bad policy Judge Chenoweth to Congress for 11 because while it protects certain enti­ seeks to do that, by substituting terms. tlements, it reduces the administrative dogma for thought, formula for policy, Congressman Chenoweth worked resources necessary to pay those enti­ and providing mass suicide for all who hard and long to advance Colorado's tlements. It is bad policy because it are blind enough to embrace it. This important role in defending our treats some retirees generously and law does not serve t he American Nation. He helped to locate the Air denies equitable treatment to other re­ people; it undermines their most basic Force Academy in Colorado Springs. tirees. It is bad policy because it does interests, their most basic needs, from And his many efforts in Congress not distinguish or even permit any dis­ health to highways, law enforcement helped locate the Air Defense Com­ tinction in any way between activities to urgent scientific research, from edu­ mand in Colorado. t hat are worthwhile, essential, and cation to air traffic control. This law During his very first term in the even basic to Government function, as does not create responsibility, it abdi­ early days of the Second World War, opposed to activities that may be of cates responsibility. It ought to be re­ he persuaded the Army to establish a less value, virtue, or soundness. It is pealed. post, then known as Camp Carson, in January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 699 Colorado Springs. And nearly 10 years tween Representatives BROWN, Mr. KRAMER. Mr. Speaker, I would later he led the move to make the KRAMER, and myself we touch on all of like to join the gentlemen from Colo­ camp a permanent facility, Fort the old third that he served so well for rado in paying tribute to a distin­ Carson. many years. guished Coloradan and an honored Judge Chenoweth was a native of My colleague, Congressman BROWN, former Member of Congress, J. Edgar Trinidad, CO, near the southern has covered his distinguished legisla­ Chenoweth. border of our State. His parents were tive career and his distinguished Mr. Chenoweth's passing January pioneers, coming from Maryland to career as a Republican in Colorado, 2nd at the age of 88 saddens his col­ settle in southern Colorado. Judge but I would like to point out that leagues and all those many people, in Chenoweth was born near Trinidad in Judge Chenoweth was a champion of Colorado and elsewhere, who knew 1897. After graduation from Trinidad Western water, which is a topic which him and respected him. As we mourn High School, he attended the Univer­ is particularly important to me and is the loss of a man known as "the sity of Colorado and later studied law particularly important to the West. He judge," let us take solace as we remem­ in his spare time. He was admitted to introduced the Frying Pan, Arkansas ber Mr. Chenoweth's long and exem­ the Colorado Bar in 1925 and served as bill in 1952, and he introduced it every plary careers as a lawyer, a judge, a assistant district attorney in Trinidad. year thereafter until it was finally Republican Party official, and, finally, He was appointed, then elected, judge passed and signed into law by Presi­ as a Congressman. for Las Animas County for a total dent Kennedy in 1962. Let us also remember his hard work, term of 8 years. In 1933 he adminis­ 0 1855 his dedication and his achievements. tered Colorado's first old age pension Most of all, let us remember a kind fund. In both the 1934 and the 1936 Construction was begun in 1964, and elections, Judge Chenoweth was the work on the project was completed in and gracious gentleman whom I was only Republican elected in the county. 1984. fortunate to call a friend, who devoted In 1937 he was elected chairman of The thing that we all remember so many years to public service and the Republican State Central Commit­ about Judge Chenoweth, in addition who, always and to everyone, was tee. After a successful 1940 campaign to his championing Western water and quick to share a smile and a welcoming for Congress, Judge Chenoweth served his establishment of important mili­ hand. 22 of the next 24 years here in Wash­ tary bases in Colorado, his work on Mr. Chenoweth was a native of Trin­ ington. In 1948 he lost to Democrat the Interior and Insular Affairs Com­ idad, CO. He graduated from the Uni­ John Marsalis by just 1,800 votes out mittee; we also remember that he was versity of Colorado and then returned of more than 128,000. But the Judge one of the first members of the then­ to his home, where he was first a pros­ was the victor in the next eight elec­ called Committee on Science and As­ ecuting attorney and later a county tions. He retired to a law practice in tronautics. When he joined that com­ judge in Las Animas County. It was Trinidad which he maintained until a mittee in 1959, Mr. Speaker, it did that latter service that earned him his few days before his death. He also some of the very important work in affectionate nickname. served as district governor of Rotary. getting our space program underway. Mr. Chenoweth served in the House In Congress, he served on the House It is now the Committee on Science from 1941to1949 and again from 1951 Rules Committee, and was secretary of and Technology. to 1965. As one who now represents a the Republican Congressional Com­ Beyond his temporal accomplish­ district once partly included in his, I mittee. And in Colorado, he served on ments, the Judge is remembered even have had the privilege to see the many the board of the Colorado Boys Ranch more for his warmth and his caring fruits of Mr. Chenoweth's labor. In and on the board of the Colorado-Wy­ for others. Former Colorado Governor particular, the magnificent Air Force oming Railroad. Congressman John Love said of him recently. Academy owes its presence near Colo­ Chenoweth was a prime mover in He brought a special kind of decency and rado Springs in large part to Mr. making the Trinidad Dam and Reser­ kindness to elective office, and laterally de­ Chenoweth's foresight and diligence. voir a reality. And he was instrumen­ fined the term "constituent service." Today, thousands of young men and tal in the Frying Pan-Arkansas project To the day when he got sick, Judge women from that institution serve which brought water, and prosperity, Chenoweth never failed to touch per­ their Nation proudly and help keep us to the Front Range. Judge Chenoweth sonally every person in a room which strong and secure. Mr. Chenoweth also married Ruth Olivia Crews on Christ­ he entered. was mainly responsible for helping es­ mas Eve, 1919. Together they had The one common thread throughout tablish the Air Defense Command and three sons, William B., of Denver, all the tributes to him has been cita­ Fort Carson Army Base, both near John E., Jr., of Pueblo, and James R., tions of his decency, cheerfulness, and Colorado Springs and both vital links of Trinidad, and two daughters, desire to help those who needed it. He in our Nation's defense. Wanda Mattern, of Lancaster, PA, and was truly a representative of the Mr. Chenoweth's efforts were ac­ Ruth Anne Vigil of Mission Viejo, CA. people. He never stopped that service, knowledged by the Army, which in He is survived by his wife and chil­ even after he left the Congress, to 1984 awarded him its Patriotic Se!"Vice dren, and also by 10 grandchildren and return to Trinidad and the practice of Award for his role, during his first 5 great grandchildren. The Judge's law, which he continued to do until a term in Congress, in persuading the papers have been donated to the West­ few weeks before he died. Army to make Camp Carson a perma­ ern History Library of the University He was married to his lovely Ruth in nent base. of Colorado. Congressman Chenoweth 1919, Mr. Speaker. They were husband Mr. Chenoweth can rightly be called was a kind man. He is very fondly re­ and wife for 66 years. Five children, 10 "Mr. Republican" in Colorado. He membered by those who served with grandchildren, 5 great-grandchildren served as chairman of the State Cen­ him, and by those he served. survive him, and our prayers are with tral Committee from 1937 to 1940 and Mr. STRANG. Mr. Speaker, I thank them in this hour of grief. was a past secretary of the Republican the gentleman from Colorado CMr. I am honored today to offer this Congressional Committee. His advice BROWN] for t hose comments. tribute to one of the great Colorado and counsel inspired and guided so Mr. Speaker, Judge Chenoweth, for Congressmen, who in many ways set many other Republicans, officeholders many of his years in Congress, repre­ the standards in service and devotion and party members alike. The sented a substantial number of the to those he represented for all of us strength of our Republican Party in citizens of what are now in the Third who have followed, Judge Chenoweth. Colorado today is due in large part to Congressional District which I have Mr. Speaker, I now yield to my dis­ his patience and effort. the privilege to represent, Pueblo and tinguished colleague from Colorado, Even after leaving Congress, Mr. Pueblo County. My guess is that be- Congressman KRAMER. Chenoweth continued to play a promi- 700 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 nent role in his native community of Mr. WIRTH. Mr. Speaker, it is a great privi­ 0 1905 Trinidad. He resumed his law practice, lege to participate in this special order to which he continued right up to the honor the late J. Edgar Chenoweth. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY ANTI­ time of his passing. He watched his I would like to thank my colleague, Con­ TRUST PROTECTION ACT OF party and his State grow and prosper, 1986 the result of people like him, people gressman STRANG, for arranging for this op­ . who were not content to stand back portunity to remember a special individual and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under but who got involved, using skill and dedicated public servant. a previous order of the House, the gen­ hard work to leave this world a better Judge Chenoweth was indeed a special in­ tleman from New York CMr. FISH] is place than before. dividual. He first became known as "The recognized for 20 minutes. Mr. Chenoweth's life and his accom­ Judge" during his days as a country judge in plishments are treasured by all Colo­ Colorado's Las Amimas County during the late Mr. FISH. Mr. Speaker, there is an increas­ radans. He serves as an example to us 1930's and early 1940's. His friends and con­ ing public awareness that America must re­ all. We extend our prayers and our stituents continued to affectionately refer to spond to the competitive challenge from abroad. Perhaps more than ever before in our sympathy to his lovely wife, Ruth, to him as Judge Chenoweth throughout his 22- history, there is a national consensus in favor his three sons and his two daughters, year Congressional career and beyond. and to the rest of his family. May his of more realistic governmental policies which memory live on with us and inspire us The Denver Post, writing about Judge will serve to foster the development of new daily. Chenoweth 20 years ago, said he was "a technology and encourage our own economic Mr. STRANG. Mr. Speaker, I thank kindly and gracious man who probably hasn't growth in face of global competition. Some Congressman KRAMER. I now yield to a single real enemy." The citizens of Pueblo, have responded by urging changes in the Tax my colleague from Colorado, Con­ Colorado Springs and the other communities Code. Others have sought tougher trade poli­ gressman DAN SCHAEFER. in the old Third District, I believe, were fortu­ cies and urged import restrictions on certain Mr. SCHAEFER. Mr. Speaker, I am nate to have known Judge Chenoweth. products. Still others have pressed for ex­ pleased to have the opportunity this And he was indeed a dedicated public serv­ panded regulatory reform and the further de­ evening to honor such an instrumental ant. The Coloradans with whom I have talked regulation of certain industries. figure in Colorado history. J. Edgar remember Judge Chenoweth most for the One area where Congress should focus its Chenoweth, known to most as "The great care and attention he gave to his dis­ legislative attention is on the need to bring Judge," served the people of Colora­ about greater harmony between the patent do's Third District for 22 years, in trict. The Honorable , who suc­ ceeded Judge Chenoweth in Congress in laws and the antitrust laws. For too long, Mr. which only his dedication matched his Speaker, court decisions have reflected an ar­ accomplishments. 1965, recalls, "He serviced his constituency with his whole heart." tificial tension between antitrust law, on the Elected as a Republican in a tradi­ one hand, and patent law, on the other. This tionally Democratic district, Judge Chenoweth was an ardent and effec­ judicial tension has discouraged both personal Chenoweth's overriding loyalty was to tive advocate for a number of water projects and industrial innovation, to the overall detri­ his constituency. Due primarily to his in Colorado, including the Fryingpan-Arkansas ment of the American economy. efforts, Colorado has become the project. As a freshman Member of Congress home of Fort Carson, the North Amer­ The basic problem stems from certain Su­ he convinced the U.S. Army to convert then­ preme Court and lower Federal court deci­ ican Air Defense Command, and the Camp Carson into the permanent installation, United States Air Force Academy. sions that characterize the patent system as Fort Carson, a role for which he was later to inherently in conflict with goals of antitrust Even today, few Members have en­ receive the Army's Patriotic Service award. By hanced the economy and image of law. The Supreme Court, for example, has de­ their districts more than the Judge. the time his work was done, Judge picted the patent grant as a "monopoly," the But Chenoweth's achievements in Chenoweth was instrumental in also bringing limits of which are to be "narrowly and strictly Congress are only the most noticeable to Colorado the Air Force Academy and Air confined" so as to avoid the "evils of an ex­ in a life dedicated to community serv­ Defense Command. pansion of the patent monopoly by private en­ ice. Nowhere is this more evident than Right up to his last days, Judge Chenoweth gagements". Mercoid Corp. v. Mid-Continent Co., 320 U.S. 661, at 665-6 (1944). Unfortu­ his contribution to the Colorado Boys remained very active and involved. At age 88, nately, the view that an exclusive legal proper­ Ranch. The many hours the Judge he continued to practice law in Trinidad and spent toward the betterment of the ty right; that is, a patent, copyright or trade­ continued to serve the public that he so loved. mark, is somehow at odds with a free market State's young citizens showed that his His most recent activities included serving on commitment to Colorado was not re­ system has been reflected in a number of the Judicial Nominating Committee at the re­ subsequent cases. Deepsouth Packing Co., stricted to the time spent in these quest of the Governor. Halls, but was rather his lifelong am­ Inc. v. laitram Corp., 406 U.S. 518, rehearing bition. I would like to express my deepest sympa­ denied, 409 U.S. 902 (1972); United States v. Perhaps his greatest accomplish­ thy to Judge Chenoweth's wife, Ruth Paramount Pictures, Inc., 334 U.S. 131 (1948); ment, however, was the respect he Chenoweth, and his five children, 1O grand­ International Salt Co. v. United States, 332 earned from Members of the opposing children and five great-grandchildren. All of U.S. 392 (1947); United States v. Studienge­ party and the press. In fact, the Colorado shares in their mourning. Yet we sellschaft Kohle, m.b.H., 670 F.2d 1122 (D.C. Denver Post once described also share in their warm memories of a man Cir. 1981). Chenoweth as "a kindly and gracious who generously gave to others-form his But the viewpoint reflected in these court man who probably hasn't a single real heart-both during a long career in public decisions mistakes the actual economic rela­ enemy." As my colleagues well know, office and in his private life. tionship between the protection of intellectual this is quite a compliment for a Judge Chenoweth was Colorado's own, and property and the goals of antitrust policy. Member of 22 years. he will always be remembered. While it might be true in theory that protection J. Edgar Chenoweth will not be re­ of intellectual property can be too generous, it membered as a Democrat or Republi­ Mr. STRANG. Mr. Speaker, I would like to is also the case that inadequate rewards will can, but as an individual whose con­ conclude by saying that the respect and affec­ lead to insufficient research efforts. Reduc­ stituents' concerns came before any tion, admiration for J. Edgar Chenoweth was tions in research programs mean fewer new personal political gain. His career is a so broad in the State of Colorado that rare products and processes and, ultimately, less model of commitment-one which all was the resident of that State who did not competition. While it is difficult to specify the of us, from whatever State we repre­ know who you mean when you just mentioned precise level of protection that is appropriatei, sent, should emulate. "The Judge." Such respect and affection is it is critical to recognize that any system of in­ Mr. STRANG. I thank the gentle­ unusual, well-deserved. We wish the family tellectual property protection must reflect a man from Colorado. well. carefully structured balance between the dan- January 29, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 701 gers of inadequate protection and those of ex­ own resources. Licensing can therefore be im­ will encourage the creation, development, and cessive protection. It is an oversimplification portant in allowing patent owners to compete commercial application of new products and at best to regard the patent system or the more effectively. Equally important, by allow­ processes. It can mean technological ad­ copyright system as inherently at odds with ing the owner to utilize its patent in the way it vances which create new industries, increase competitive policy. Rather, intellectual proper­ deems most effective, licensing increases the productivity and improve America's ability to ty laws and antitrust law serve complementary value of the patent grant, and hence in­ compete in foreign markets. functions basic to our national economic creases the perceived rewards and the incen­ progress. tive to innovate. Facilitating the patent lease What is needed, then, are revisions in the transaction can have broad and favorable THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTA- antitrust laws that reflect a more realistic view economic implications. TIVES CAMPAIGN FINANCE as to how intellectual property rights can be Investment in research and development is REFORM. ACT OF 1985 exercised without undue fear of litigation. Con­ a risky business. An entrepreneur, be he large The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under sequently, today I am introducing the "Intel­ or small, is unlikely to risk the investment nec­ a previous order of the House, the gen­ lectual Property Antitrust Protection Act of essary if the prospects for financial reward are 1986". Joining me in this effort is my good not present or severely limited. Again, the li­ tleman from New York [Mr. LA.FALCE] friend and Judiciary Committee colleague, cense mechanism permits the rightful owner is recognized for 10 minutes. Hon. CARLOS J. MOORHEAD. Congressman of the technology to combine the idea he Mr. LAFALCE. Mr. Speaker, few Members MOORHEAD has long been recognized as a owns with the manufacturing or distribution of Congress would dispute the fact that our leader in legislative efforts aimed at encourag­ assets of a third party-thereby utilizing the entire system of campaign finance is in dire ing and protecting intellectual property rights. new technology in the most economically effi­ need to reform. Nothing can mask the fact Also joining with us as an original cosponsor cient manner possible. Licensing often permits that the law needs to be changed, and is the Honorable ED ZSCHAU, who has done products to get to the market place at the changed dramatically. such an excellent job as the chairman of the lowest possible cost and, consequently, can I have long advocated a number of reforms task force on high technology initiatives of the result in lower retail prices. When licensing designed to improve our campaign finance House Republican Research Committee. leads to a more efficient use of technology laws. In recent years, I have introduced bills Our bill would require that the courts con­ and its wider application, consumers will be which eliminate the tax credit for contributions sider the procompetitive benefits of an intel­ the ultimate beneficiaries. to PAC's, and which prohibit Members of Con­ lectual property license before they could find The changes we propose in the antitrust gress from converting campaign funds to per­ that a particular contract or transaction involv­ laws would further encourage American indus­ sonal use, regardless of when the Member ing intellectual property violates the antitrust try to develop new ideas and new technol­ was elected to Congress. But the area of laws. Intellectual property licenses would be ogies. All too often today, advances in tech­ campaign finance most in need of reform per­ analyzed and evaluated under the rule of nology are not fully explored because the indi­ tains to the amounts spent by candidates. The reason test of antitrust law. Furthermore, and vidual or corporation in question may not have vast sums of money that are being spent run­ importantly, this measure would also remove the capacity to market the idea or new discov­ ning for public office in this country have the possibility of treble damage liability for an ery. Correspondingly, the current state of anti­ become unconscionable, and threaten to un­ individual, a small business, or a corporation trust law with regard to patent licensing or the dermine the electoral process in the United which chooses to sell or lease its patent rights licensing of other intellectual property is States. Therefore, first and foremost, we need or other intellectual property rights to others. simply too restrictive. While some recent court to impose limits on campaign spending. Re­ The protection proposed in this legislation decisions have begun to reflect a better un­ grettably, the Supreme Court, in the decision would cover a broad spectrum of intellectual derstanding of the fundamental benefits of in­ of Buckley versus Valeo, blocked Congress' property, including patents, copyrights, trade tellectual property, the business community ability to impose spending limits without secrets, and semiconductor chips. still needs a stronger, more reliable signal making public financing available to the candi­ The presumption that underlies this propos­ from Congress. Only statutory change can re­ dates. Only through the inauguration of public al is that enhanced legal protection of intellec­ verse the years of caselaw precedents that financing of House campaigns can we consti­ tual property rights will, in fact, promote com­ have discouraged the full utilization of the in­ tutionally curb campaign expenditures. petition. By providing increased safeguards for tellectual property license in American busi­ The cost of all elections in the United the licensing of intellectual property, Congress ness practice. We need to encourage such in­ States approached the $2 billion mark in would encourage the private sector in the de­ dividuals or corporations to believe that they 1984. Congressional campaign spending rose velopment and implementation of new tech­ can profitably and successfully license or sub­ from $77 million in 197 4 to $37 4 million in nologies. The result will be new and better license their ideas. 1984-an increase of more than 385 percent. products, additional market place choices for In 1984, Congress passed the "National In the last election, Senator JESSE HELMS set consumers and lower prices. Recent econom­ Cooperative Research Act" -Public Law 98- a new all time spending record of almost. ic research demonstrates that further protec­ 462-which, among other things, prohibited $16.5 million. His challenger, Gov. Jim Hunt tions with respect to intellectual property en­ per se treatment of licenses of intellectual spent over $9.4 million. Senator JAY ROCKE­ hance, rather than hinder, the competition property developed through research and de­ FELLER also reached new heights by spending protected by the antitrust laws. Consequently, velopment joint ventures. There is no logical more than $12 million to win his seat in 1984. it is crucial that the antitrust laws not be inter­ reason why we should treat patent licenses The story is the same in the House of Rep­ preted in an overly restrictive manner that un­ which are independently developed any differ­ resentatives. The 435 House winners in 1984 reasonably discourages the licensing of tech­ ently than those that are the result of a joint spent an average of $288,000 with 1O candi­ nology. venture. Our bill is based upon concepts origi­ dates spending upwards of $1 million or more. Patent licensing, for example, has the po­ nally contained in title Ill of the National Pro­ If only seriously contested races were includ­ tential for significant procompetitive benefits. ductivity and Innovation Act which was pro­ ed, I believe the winning candidate's expendi­ Often, the creator of a new product is not in posed by the Reagan administration in 1983. tures would then average closer to $500,000. the best position to commercially develop that Unfortunately, that proposal was never acted Even in upstate New York, many Members particular product. Other individuals or busi­ upon by the Congress. have raised and spent almost $500,000 re­ nesses may have superior manufacturing ca­ Simply put, the time has come to reverse peatedly, per election cycle. The constant on­ pabilities or product distribution networks. Li­ the misdirected judicial hostility seen between going cycle of raising and spending huge censing permits the patent owner to match its intellectual property law and antitrust law. If sums, money does not necessarily corrupt the own knowledge and other advantages with that legal view was ever valid, it is outdated in individual, but it surely corrupts the process. those of its licensees, who may possess su­ our current economic climate. We must Of all the proposed reforms, tha most impor­ perior production, distribution, or marketing fa­ remove the threat of treble damage liability tant is to bring campaign expenditures under cilities or skills. Licensing can result in prod­ from those who seek to more effectively control. ucts getting to the marketplace more quickly market new technologies. The patent and In the last House election, about 83% of all or at lower cost than would be possible antitrust laws should be structured so as to be House winners received a third or more of through reliance only upon the patent holder's complimentary, not conflicting. This legislation their contributions from Political Action Com- 702 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 mittees [PAC's]. There is nothing intrinsically In so limiting PAC contributions, we cannot SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED evil abourt PAC's; indeed, they developed as ignore the high cost of campaigning. Indeed, By unanimous consent, permission an effort to reform other campaign abuses. the limitation on PAC contributions could pose to address the House, following the There is at least one troubling aspect, how­ a financial hardship to some candidates. legislative program and any special ever, to the PAC phenomenon. PAC's have Therefore, the second part of my strategy is orders heretofore entered, was granted the very real capability to virtually determine to install a system of public financing of the outcome of an election. Under the law, in­ to: House campaigns, modeled upon the Presi­ ; to licensing and other use of certain intellectu­ Mr. KRAMER. the Committee on Education and Labor. al property; to the Committee on the Judici­ Mr. CLINGER. 2608. A letter from the Assistant Secre­ ary. Mr. DENNY SMITH. tary of State for Legislative and Intergov­ By Mr. KOLTER: Mr. HYDE. ernmental Affairs, transmitting the original H.R. 4071. A bill to amend the Railroad Mr. COLEMAN of Missouri. report of political contributions for Paul D. Retirement Act of 1974 to eliminate the Mr. WHITEHURST. Wolfowitz of Washington to be the Ambas­ COLA offset provisions, and restore <2>; to the Committee on Foreign Af­ and Commerce. fairs. By Mr. LAFALCE: Mr. HAYES in two instances. 2609. A letter from the Chairman, Board H.R. 4072. A bill to amend the Federal Mr. RICHARDSON. for International Broadcasting, transmit­ Election Campaign Act of 1971 to change Mr. CLAY. ting a report on the activities of the board certain contribution limits for elections for Mr. PEPPER. and evaluation of the operation of Radio the House of Representatives and to provide Mr. FAUNTROY. Free Europe/Radio Liberty for the period for financing of general election campaigns Mr. RANGEL. ending September 30, 1985, pursuant to for the House of Representatives, and for Public Law 93-129, section 4Ca)(8) (90 Stat. other purposes; to the Comm.ittee on House Mr. MARKEY. Administration. Mr. MATSUI. 833, 91 Stat. 851>; to the Committee on For­ eign Affairs. By Mr. LIGHTFOOT ; to the to lower the cost of money for farmers; Mr. MARTINEZ. Committee on Government Operations. jointly, to the Committees on Ways and Mr. BOXER. 2611. A letter from the Secretary of the Means, and Agriculture. Interior, transmitting the final management By Mr. MOODY: Mr. ST GERMAIN. H.R. 407 4. A bill to repeal part C of the Mr. SIKORSKI. plan for the Owyhee Wild and Scenic River, pursuant to 16 U.S.C. 1274Ca)(53) and Cb>; to Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Mr. DOWNEY of New York in three the Committee on Interior and Insular Af­ Control Act of 1985 , and to make con­ Mr. GARCIA. Transportation, transmitting a report on forming amendments in other provisions of Mr. FASCELL in two instances. access control demonstration projects, pur­ that Act and in related provisions of the Mr. GORDON. suant to 23 U.S.C. 307 nt.; to the Committee Congressional Budget Act; jointly, to the on Public Works and Transportation. Committees on Government Operations, Mr. MINETA in two instances. and Rules. Mr. YATRON. By Mr. PARRIS

71--059 0-87-23 (Pt. 1) 704 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE January 29, 1986 Agriculture to modify the definition of non­ Mr. KINDNESS introduced a bill for the relief of Joseph W. Newman; LArrA, Mr. CLAY, Mr. BLAZ, Mr. BIAGGI, Mr. the production of any commodity that to the Committee on the Judiciary. LEwis of California, Mr. McCLOSKEY, Mr. would adversely affect the income of pro­ MCCOLLUM, Mr. KASICH, Mr. RODINO, Mr. ducers of that commodity; to the Commit­ ADDITIONAL SPONSORS ROE, Mr. MRAZEK, Mr. OWENS, Mrs. BOXER, tee on Agriculture. Under clause 4 of rule XXII, spon­ Mr. JENKINS, Mr. ROBERT F. SMITH, Mr. LA­ By Mr. WEBER : H.J. Res. 365: Mr. JACOBS, Mr. BURTON of H.R. 4080. A bill to exclude from gross MARKEY. H.R. 479: Mr. BROWN of Colorado, Mr. Mc­ Indiana, Mr. CLINGER, and Mr. WOLPE. income amounts received from certain sales H.J. Res. 398: Mr. ACKERMAN, Mr. ADDAB­ of farm property and amounts attributable MILLAN, Mr. MARTIN of New York, and Mr. WYLIE. BO, Mr. ALExANl>ER, Mr. ANTHONY, Mr. AP­ to the discharge of indebtedness on certain PLEGATE, Mr. ATKINS, Mr. BADHAM, Mr. BART­ farm property; to the Committee on Ways H.R. 780: Mr. CLINGER. LETT, Mr. BEDELL, Mr. BENNETT, Mr. BEVILL, and Means. H.R. 796: Mr. ERDREICH and Mr. DASCHLE. H.R. 864: Mrs. Boxer and Mr. LI.FALCE. Mr. BILIRAKIS, Mr. BOLAND, Mr. BONER of By Mr. BADHAM: Tennessee, Mr. BoNIOR of Michigan, Mr. H.J. Res. 504. Joint resolution authorizing H.R. 979: Mr. FISH. establishment of a memorial to honor H.R. 1004: Mr. CLINGER. BORSKI, Mr. BOULTER, Mr. BROOKS, Mr. America's astronauts; to the Committee on H.R. 1021: Mr. SEIBERLING. BROOMFIELD, Mr. BROWN of Colorado, Mr. House Administration. H.R. 1145: Mrs. BENTLEY. BROYHILL, Mrs. BURTON of California, Mr. By Mr. ACKERMAN Ci> in the case of individuals who need Mr. SAVAGE, Mr. LEHMAN of Florida, Mr. to be placed in inpatient mental health fa­ to be placed in inpatient mental health fa­ FLORIO, and Ms. 0AKAR. cilities, to place such individuals in optimum cilities, to place such individuals in optimum H.J. Res. 500: Mr. HENRY, Mr. HUGHES, Mr. therapeutic settings and to provide mental therapeutic settings and to provide mental McGRATH, Mr. HOYER, Ms. OAKAR, Mr. KAN­ health treatment and related support serv­ health treatment and related support serv­ .JORSKI, and Mr. ANDERSON. ices appropriate to such individuals' level of ices appropriate to such individuals' level of H. Con. Res. 241: Mr. WHEAT, Mr. LoWERY functioning, functioning, of California, Ms. KAPTuR, Mrs. BENTLEY, "Cll> in the case of residents of public inpa­ "CU> in the case of residents of public inpa­ Mr. MRAzEK, and Mr. MCKERNAN. tient mental health facilities who have been tient mental health facilities who have been H. Con. Res. 271: Mr. SOLARZ, Mr. TOWNS, inappropriately placed in such facilities, to inappropriately placed in such facilities, to Mr. FAUNTROY, Mr. ScHEuER, Mr. GUARINI, discharge such residents, and, to the extent discharge such residents, and, to the extent Mr. SAVAGE, Mr. DIXON, Mr. MOAKLEY, Mr. appropriate, to place them in optimum appropriate, to place them in optimum CONYERS, and Ms. MIKULSKI. therapeutic settings and to provide mental therapeutic settings and to provide mental H. Res. 183: Mr. BERKAN, Mr. UDALL, and health treatment and related support serv­ health treatment and related support serv­ Mr. NIELSON of Utah. ices appropriate to such individuals' level of ices appropriate to such individuals' level of functioning, H. Res. 256: Mr. OWENS. functioning, H. Res. 311: Mr. EVANS of Illinois, Mr. FOG­ "Ciii> in the case of individuals who are "Ciii> in the case of individuals who are discharged from, or are in need of place­ LIETTA, Mr. HOYER, Mr. LEHMAN of Florida, discharged from, or are in need of place­ Mr. RICHARDSON, Mr. MCHUGH, Mr. ADDABBO, ment in, inpatient mental health facilities, ment in, inpatient mental health facilities, to inform them of available community­ Mrs. COLLINS, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. KOST­ to inform them of available community­ MAYER, Mr. BONER of Tennessee, Mr. OBER­ based facilities and programs providing based facilities and programs providing mental health treatment and related sup­ STAR, Mr. CARPER, Mrs. BENTLEY, Mr. mental health treatment and related sup­ RODINO, Mr. JACOBS, Mr. WHEAT, Mr. CLAY, port services and to provide them access to a port services and to provide them access to a sufficient number of adequately staffed and Mr. UDALL, Mr. HOWARD, Mr. MATSUI, Mr. sufficient number of adequately staffed and CARR, Mrs. LLOYD, Mr. TOWNS, Mr. FAZIO, adequately funded community-based facili­ adequately funded community-based facili­ ties and programs providing mental health Mr. PuRsELL, Mr. FRENZEL, Mr. SISISKY, and ties and programs providing mental health Mr. MITCHELL. and related support services, and and related support services, and "Civ> to otherwise establish or carry out an " to otherwise establish or carry out an appropriate individual program plan or DELETIONS OF SPONSORS FROM appropriate individual program plan or treatment or discharge plan for a mentally PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLU­ treatment or discharge plan for a mentally ill individual,". TIONS ill individual,". Page 4, insert after line 21 the following: Page 4, insert after line 21 the following: "For purposes of clauses m and CU> of sub­ Under clause 4 of rule XXll, spon­ "For purposes of clauses m and CU> of sub­ paragraph CA>. the term "optimum thera­ sors were deleted from public bills and paragraph CA>, the term "optimum thera­ peutic setting" means the environment that resolutions as follows: peutic setting" means the environment that is least restrictive of an individual's personal H.R. 3609: Mrs. LLOYD. is least restrictive of an individual's personal liberty and where the care, treatment, ha­ liberty and where the care, treatment, ha­ bilitation, or rehabilitation is particularly bilitation, or rehabilitation is particularly suited to the level of service necessary to AMENDMENTS suited to the level of services necessary to properly implement an individual's treat­ Under clause 6 of rule :XXIII, pro­ properly implement an individual's treat­ ment, habilitation, and rehabilitation. The ment, habilitation, and rehabilitation. The optimum therapeutic setting for an individ­ posed amendments were submitted as optimum therapeutic setting for an individ­ ual may be a licensed and properly operated follows: ual may be a licensed and properly operated State hospital or other public residential H.R. 4055 State hospital or other public residential care facility if the available community By Mr. McKINNEY: care facility." services fail to provide conditions which en­ -Page 4, strike out lines 10 through 12 and -Page 4, strike out lines 10 through 12 and hance the care, treatment, and general well insert in lieu thereof the following: insert in lieu thereof the following: being of the individual."