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LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

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[Tenth Series, Vol. XI, Third Session 199211974 (Saka)]

No. 35, Tuesday, April 21, 1992/ Vaisakha 1, 1914 (Saka)

COLUMNS

Oral Answers to Questions: 1-37

·Starred Question Nos. 675 to 680 and 682

Written Answers to Questions: 37-324

Starred Question Nos. 674,683, 37-56 684, 686 to 693

Un starred Question Nos. 7233 to 7364 55-290

Statement correcting reply 289-291 to USQ No. 5391 dated 31.3.92 regarding recruitment of SCIST Employees in Health Ministry

Statement correcting reply 289-291 to USQ No. 4331 dated 24.3.1992 regarding land for Lalit Kala Akademi

Papers Laid on the Table 324-326

Committee on the WeHare 326 of Scheduled Castes and' . Scheduled Tribes

Second Report-Presented

·The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by ,1]3t Member. (ii) CoLUMNS

Committee on Government 326 Assurances

Third Report-Presented

Matters Under Rule 377 327-334

(i) Need to raise the import 327-328 duty on PVC to the level of other Polymer Commodities to pre-budget level

Shri R. Dhanushkodi Athithan

(ii) Need to chalk out a short 328 term 'Taj Mahal Renewal Project' under a coordinated authority

Shti K.V. Thangkabalu

(iii) Need to set up coach repairing 328-329 workshop at nemom Railway Station near Trivandrum

Shri A. Charles

(iv) Need to issue letter of intent 329-330 to Uttar Pradesh for laying the pipeline for supply of natural gas through HBJ pipeline

. Shri Bhagwan Shankar Rawat

(v) Need to set up low power T. V. 330-331 transmitters in some towns of Himachal Pradesh

Prof. Prem Dhumal

(vi) Need to set up gas based 331-332 power plants in Bihar

Shrimati Girija Devi (iii) CoLUMNS

(vii) Need to send a central team 332 to review the working of SeH Employment Scheme in Jahanabad Parliamentary constituency, Bihar

Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh

(viii) Need to increase the amount 332-333 of freedom fighters' pension

Shri Arvind Tulsiram Kamble

Demands for Grants (General), 335-344 1992-93

Ministry 01 External Affairs

Shri Sudhir Saw ant 336-344

Shri PoGo Narayanan 344

Reo Political Developments in 345-347 Afghanistan

Statutory Resolution Reo Approval 347-324 01 Proclamation in Relation to the State 01 Nagaland

Shri So 80 Chavan 347-348

Shri Lal K. Advani 355-376

Shri Sharad Dighe 376-383

Shri George Fernandes 383-410

Shri Ao Charles 410-416

Shri Basu Deb Acharia 416-424 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOKSABHA (c) Demands are being met regularly.

[ Translation] Tuesday, April 21 1992Naisakha 1, 1914 (Saka) SHRI ASTBHUJA PRASAD SHUKLA: Mr. Speaker, Sir,l had asked in my question .. the details of the demand made by U.P. The Lok Sabha Met at Eleven of the Government for the supply of wagons or Clock rakes and the number of the wagons rakes demanded by the State Government as [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] also the number of wagons made available to State Government and the number of ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS wagons not made available to n. I am sorry to say that the hon. Minister has not replied [ Translation] properly. I would like to know the details of the demands made by the Uttar Pradesh Supply of Wagons to U.P. Government during the last three years for the supply of wagons or rakes separately for *675. SHRI ASTBHUJA PRASAD the movement of coal and levy sugar etc. to SHUKLA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS power-houses brick kilns commission and be pleased to state: forthe movement ollood grains to Kotdwar. I also want to know the number of wagons (a) whether the Government of Uttar or rakes made available by the government 'Pradesh. has requested for supply of wagons and the number of wagons not made

I) to meet the requirment of different sectors available. of the State economy; [English] (b) if so, the details thereof, sector- wise; and SHRI MALLIKARJUN: The demand for t991-92 for BG wagons was 9,13,378 and (c) the steps taken to meet this demand? supply was 9,12,595 and for MG, demand was 1,42, 167 and supply was 1,42,167. [English] These wagons have been loaded with coal, cement, coal for brick kilns and foodgrains THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and fertilizers and so on and so forth. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN: (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. Letters [ Translation] have been received regarding loading of coalto Brick Kilns, booking of levy sugar and SHRI ASTBHUJA PRASAD SHUKLA: despatch of foodgrains to Kotdwara. Again he did not clarify as to how many 3 Oral Answers APRIL 21,1992 Oral Answers ,4 wagons were not made available In MR. SPEAKER: It cannot be done. You comparison to the number of wagons for know the rules. which assurance was given. I would like to point out that 35 per cent of wagons have [ Translation] not been made available.l The hon. Minister may please tell whether it is not true that the Yesterday. Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh has made a complaint to the Minister of Railways tothe SHRI MOHAN SINGH When the effect that the Department had not made hon.Minister came late, he got an available wagons and rakes in adequate opportunity. .. number and that not in time, the supply of coal is being affected resulting In a fall In ( Interruptions) power generation in power houses. as also the bricks kilns industry is being affected [English) adversely and there is inordinate delay In the levy sugar. Hso, the measures taken by SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: I was sitting the hon. Minister of Railways to redress here alone. I felt embraced and I feel it. these grievances and whether he is makinrJ available the wagons or rakes in adequat e MR. SPEAKER: That is all right. It so number and In time as demanded by th,e happens sometimes. Chief Minister" so, but what time? SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA: I have come here now, [English] MEi: SPEAKER: You know the rules. SHRI MALLlKARJUN: It Is tru,e the Supposing all the questions are covered, Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh has 'written then we can come to your question. Not like on 27-1-92 regarding wagon requir1aments this. for brick kilns and sugar loadings and, of course, about coal also earlier. SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA: I will wait for that. I hope you will come back to this question. So far as coal supply to th,e brick kilns is concerned, frpm 14-6-91 to '24-11-91, the Admission In Medical Colleges coal companies have not giVJen any coal to the brick kilns in Uttar PracJes'n. Only after *676. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minister 25-10-91, and then up to February, when of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be the coal; companies i.e, t.he Bengal Bihar pleased to state: Coal Fields started giving coal to the brick kilns, we started loading ther n every month. (a) whether all the seats allocated from From November to Febn.'lary, we have the Central Pool for admiSSion to medical loaded 2068 wagons with co al for brick kilns. colleges in India were filled up ~uring 1991- 92; MR. SPEAKER: Now' we take up the next question No. 676. (b) if so, the details thereof, state-wise and.Union Territory-wise; SHRI BHOGENDRI ,JHA: I have come here now. (c) If not, the reasons thereof; 5 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 (d) the number of drop-outs from amongst the selected Candittates during THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the above period; and MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WElFARE (SHRI D.K. THARADEVI (e) the manner In which the vacancies SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (e): A statement is caused by such drop outs were filled up? laid on the Table of the House. STATEMENT

A total number of 265 MBBS seats from the'Central Pool were allocated to the States Union Territories having no medical college of their own and to certain Central Ministries 'during 1991-92 Session. The break-up of the seats allocated StatefUnion Territory-wise; Ministry-wise and utilisation thereof is as under:

CENTRAL POOL MSSS SEATS FOR 1991-92 SESSION:

S.No. Name of beneficiary agency Number of Seats

Allocated Utilised

2 3 4

1. Tripura 21 21

2. Manlpur 21 21

3. Mizoram 12 12

4. Meghalaya 12 12

5. Sikkim 17 17

6. Arunachal Pradesh 20 20

7. Nagaland 16

8. Jammu & Kashmir 26 26

9. Lakshdweep 6 6

10. Andaman & Nicobar Island 13 13

11. Daman & Diu 2 2

12. Dadra & Nagar Havel! 2

13. Ministry of Extemal Affairs 45 45' 7 Oral Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Oral Answers 8

S.No. Name of beneficiary agency Numbe, of Seats

AIIocaled Utilised

1 2 3 4

14. Ministry of Defence 25 25

15. Ministry of Human Affairs 6 6

16. Cabinet Secretariat 3 3

17. Ministry of Finance

18. Ministry of Human Resource Development

19. Indian Council for cultural Relations 9 9

20. Indian Council for Child WeHare 2 2

21. Directorate General of Health Services 5 3 ••

• Utilisation Report not available .

•• 3 seats utilised. For the fourth seat utilisation report is not available. Fifth seat is reported by the concerned college to be vacant as the selected cadidate did not join.

[English] Pool? May I also know what steps the Govemment would take for filling up the SHRI N. DENNIS: Sir, one part of the seats in time sothatthe deserving candidates question has not been answered. The Centre are admitted without fail? is selecting candidates for various colleges in the country through the All-India Entrance THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND Test Examination. 15 per cent is menatfor FAMILY FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI M.l. Under-Graduate level and 25 per cent for FOTEDAR): Sir, perhaps the hon.Member the Post-Graduatelevel. That aspect of the wants me to reply to two questions: one, question has not been answered, In the about the Central Pool and two, about the answer, iI is seen that in the last category, tests which are conducted at the All-India two seats have not been utilised. Similarly. level where the Under-Graduate students regarding cadldates selected by the AII- get 15 per cent and the Post-Graduate India Test also, some seats have not been students get 25 per cent. Perhaps, the filled up. May I know from the hon. Minister hon.Member has notspecificaily mentioned the basis adopted for the selection of the It In the question. He specifically wants me candidates for 265 seats under the Central to answer about the Central Pool. I can tell 9 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 the hon.Member that the Ministry has no other examinations are concerned where quota as such In different States. We request 15 per cent quota is reserved for such the State Governments to allot some quota students who come on the basis of merit at to the Centre and at the Centre we give the all·lndia level, there is some delay. those s!"ats to such State Go~rnments because once some seats are allocated where there are no medical colleges; to then there is some difficulty because some of the Central Government Ministries students who are allotted for a particular like the Ministry of External Affairs, Ministry State or a particular college, they do not join of Defence, Ministry of Home, the Cabinet in time. I am told thatthe Supreme Court has Secretariat and such otherthings. Regarding given a ruling that 7th of February every the information asked by the hon.Member, year should be the cut off date. It is a fact we have utilised almost all the seats out of that there are some seats which are not the 265 seats except, of course, Nagaland filled which remain unfulfilled. We are trying where the information is not available so far. to evolve a system which should be full of We have got some information but I would proof. At the moment, I c

SHRI RAM NAIK: !t appears that all the SHRI N. DENNIS: Regarding sending seats have been allocated and in such of the list of candidates to various colleges, allocation, there is always a complaint that inordinate delay is caused; some names are there is favoritism and corruptions in the sent about the close of the academic year. allocation and something like this .... This causes severe strains to the States, to (Interruptions) ... I am going to make a the Universities and also to the students. reference to the complaints and if you like, The students cannot pursue their studies I can give them to you. I have some along with the other students in the current complaints and information with me, which academic year for want of attendance and is related to Nagaland. The students who do other difficulties, So, I would like to know not live in Nagaland, seats are allocated to from the hon.Ministerwhetherthe entire list, them even. I want to know whether the even the waiting list if there is any, would be Centre has framed any guidelines for this sent at the proper time so that the deserving purposes? If so, the main guidelines of them students are not missed. and whether the Government is ready to lay the list of those guidelines on the Table of SHRI M.L. FOREDAR: I can tell the ·the House? hon.Member that there is absolutely no delay on our part to allocate the seats. We SHRI M.L. FOTEDAR: I hold the hon. allocate but we have no rightto nominate. It Member in high esteem. The hon.Member is up to the State Governments which has again mixed both the issues. The one is nominate and they do fix up the time saying related to the central pool about which he by such and such time, the nomination has made a mention about Nagaland. The should be over so that the State other is relatap to the examinations on all Governments, wherever the colleges are India level. I have said that mistakes do not situated, admit the students. This is about occur In the examinations held on all India the Central Pool. Do not mix up the Central level. However, the students, who are Pool with other examinations. So far as allocated seats In a particular college, they 11 Oral Answers • APRIL21,1992 Oral Answers 12 do not join that college. For example, a Speaker, Sir, in the remote, backward and student from Madras ranks fifth according small States and Union Territories Including the merit and we allocate him a seat on the Andaman and Nicobar Islands and merit-cum-preference basis, Then, he lakshadweep, no medical cpllege exists. appears at the examination conducted by These territories are completely dependent the State Government and he is allocated a on the Central Pool for seats in the medical seat there also. colleges for medical education. What we find from the statement of the ·hon. Minister [English1 is that 265 MBBS seats were alloted from the Central Pool during 1991-92 session. I and he prefers to accept the State would like to know from the hon.Minister Govemment's allotment and not the Central whether it is a fact that the State Govemment's allotment. Governments are now reluctant and they are not willing to give medical seats from [ Translation] their States to the Central pool and the Central Govemment is finding it difficult to In this way, some seats lie vacant and fulfill its commitment of meeting all the even after giving second orthird preference, medical educational reqUirements of these the backlog is always there. I said in the small and isolated backward territories as beginning that this system is slightly complex well as of the External Affairs Ministry? In and complicated., I shall try to streamline view of this, I would also like to know from the system ensuring that the firSt allottee the hon.Minister, if he is experiencing this joins the college that has been allocated to type of problem and what are the States who him. I shall look into it. have not provided any seats during this academic session and whether he is thinking So far the case of Nagaland is in line to provide separate medical colleges concerned, there are undoubtedly certain for meeting these requirements for the problems there. As I have already said that students from these territories like the I have not received complete information Central Universities. (Interruptions) from Nagaland, but the Central Government employees, the I.A.S. officers working there, MR. SPEAKf;Il· Please make it a short are entitled to be included in it. This has question. • been mentioned in the rules. Thirdly, the Ministry has issued certain SHAI MANOAANJAN BHAKTA: So my gUidelines. If you desire, I may lay those specific question is what is his experience in guidelines on the Table of the House. The this matter? . main guidelines contain a provision that , 22.5 per cent seats should be reserved for SHAI M.L. FOTEDAR: Sir, I agree 'o'I!ith the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribes the hon.Memberthatthe State Governments in accordance with the Constitution. are definitaly reluctant to provide the seals. II is ademocratic Govemment and we cannot [English1 -compel any State Government to do what we want but, we are trying to persuade the II is a part of the guideline. I will place a State Governments to give as many seats copy of the guidelines on the Table of the to the Central pool as possible so that the House. I am going to place it just now. backward States or the States where there are no medical colleges or anything, there SHAI MANOAANJAN BHAKTA: Mr the students also get good education. I may 13 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14 tell the hon. Member that I have written to Its attention has been drawn to it and whether some of the State Chief Ministers who have it has ascertained that all the reservation not contributed to the Central pool so far, quota has been filled? Is the Government that they must have a National Policy. going to take any action against such (Interruptions) apathetic attitude adopted in medical colleges? SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: What are those States? SHRI M.l. FOTEDAR: Mr. Speaker. Sir, I would like to tell the hon.Member only SHRI M.l. FOTEDAR: One of them is this much that the Central Government is Assam. I would not like to name the State not proceeding on the basis of a class or any bllt, I have requested the Chief Ministers of other basis. But it is taking this Ihing fully in . the State that he must contribute to the its consideration that the reservation quota Central pool. I think the second one is of 22.5 per cent in accordance with our Punjab. They have also not contributed. Constitution is fuHilled. Thi~ work is 10 be Even if they allocate some seats, may be, it done by the State Governmel1ts. So, far as will be 'fery difficult for some students from . the State Governments are concerned, we other places to go. There are some State have always been asking them to fulfill the Governments but, I am trying to pursue with 22.5 per cent quota. At some places the the State Governments that they must quota is fulfilled by the candidates belonging contribute to the Central pool. So far as to the Scheduled Castes and at some other Andaman and Nicobar Islands is concerned, places it is fulfilled by those belonging to the perhaps, the hon.Memberwili be very happy Scheduled Tribes. I cannot say it with to know that last year we had given 13 seats guarantee that every State Government is and all the 13 seats have been utilised. Am paying full attention to it. As he has just said I correct? tha~ is happening in lucknow, I would like to tell him that medical colleges are not [ Translation] under the Central Government. H he has any information that the candidates sHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: belonging to the Scheduled Castes and the Mr. Speaker, Sir, in his reply, the hon.Minister Scheduled Tribes are not promoted to higher has stated that 22.5 per cent seats have class, it is really a very serious mater. I been reserved in Medical Colleges for categorically cond"mn it. H he gives it in Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. I writing that these incidents have taken place want to know from the hon.Ministerwhether .. at such and such places. the Government has ascertained that total the reserved quota of 22.5 per cent in [English] Medical Colleges has been fuHilled? An apathetic attitude is being adopted I will hold an enquiry and I will hold those continuously towards the students studying ollicers or medical college people in Medical Colleges on the basis of the responsible. reservation quota. They are not promoted to higher class for three or four years. Such [ Translation] incidents have come to light in the Medical College, lucknow and two or three medical So far as the second demand is colleges of Uttar Pradesh. Even the concerned, I tell you in no uncertain terms frustrated students have committed suicide. that there is no doubt that 15 per cent quota Iwantto knowfromtheGovernment whether has been fuHil1ed by the Harijan students in 15 Oral AnSwelS APRIL 21,1992 Oral AnswelS 16 Institutions under the Central Government Governors at Its 51st meeting held on 31st whether it is All India Institute of Medical May, 1988 decided to constitute a Sub- Science or any other institution. " he has got committee to go into all aspects concerning any grievance that any Harijan-tribal students changes In admission policy for the have not admitted to any college under the Sangathan. Consequently, a two-member Central Government as per the quota, he Committee headed by Shri Chandulal may Inform me - Chandrakar was appointed in June, 1988.

[English) (b) and (c): Information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. I will take a appropriate and prompt action on this. [' Translation]

[ Translation] SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, four years back a committee had been SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Mr. constituted consisting of two members; you Speaker, Sir, I have given it in writing .... are the Ex.-officio Chairman ofthe Kendriya ( Interruptions) Vidyalaya Sangathan. I would like to know whether the Chandrakar Committee had MR. SPEAKER: This is not going on submitted its report giving approval to the record. admissions on special recommendations. H so, when and if not, whether these Report of Chandulal Chandrakar admissions are not unauthorised? If so, Committee whether any action has been taken by the Govement against the persons responsible ·677. SHRI RAM NU-tOR RAI: for this situation. H so, the details thereof DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: and if not, when will the action be taken against them:? Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, the to state: hon.member has placed me in a situation wherein I am called to take action against (a) whether the Chandula Chandrakar myseH. But I would like to Inform the House Committee set up to examine the various that ChandrakarCommittee hadsuubmitted aspects of admission of students to Kendriya its report to the Ministry and itwasconsidered Vidalayas has submitted its report; In the year 1988. In pursuance of tile deliberations, an order had been issued on (b) if so, the details of the 3-8-1988 by the then hon.minister which recommendations made by the committee stated that It would be all right to continue and the reaction of the Government thereto; admissions on special grounds in view of the and social conditions and other special circumstances. (c) if not, the reasons for the delay? Mr. Speaker Sir, I have got an THE MINISTER OF HUMAN Information and I am making investigations RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI in this regard, The copy of the Chandrakar ARJUN SINGH): (a) The Kendriya Vidalaya Committeee report is not available at present Sang at han has informed that its Board of in the office. This is not a good practice. I 17 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 would try to obtain It as soon as possible and the Ministry. It Is rather very strange as to study it and then I would inform the House how the Ministry is functioning. The hon. in detail. Minister has submitted that a committee was constituted for farming the policy forthe SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI: Mr. Speaker, admission; It had also given its report and Sir, before asking my second supplementary, the then hon.minister had issued some I would like to draw the attention of the orders in this regard. I would like to know hon.Minister towards page 1 of the Sunday about those orders. Will you please state Observer dated 12-4-92 and page I of the present policy, priorities and grounds on Rashtriya Sahara dated 8-4-92 which refer which the admissions are being made? to the irregularities being committed Is Central schools. I would like to know from SHRI ARGUN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister about the classwise Sir, I am reading out those orders:- percentage of the Scheduled Castes bad Scheduled Tribes students out of the total [English] numberof students, the persons responsible for not completely filling the SC and ST • A number of requests and quota; and the action taken against them. I representations have been received in the would also like to know the number of KVS as also in the Ministry of HRD.. Scheduled Caste and Scheduled tribe requesting admissions to children in various teachers in the central schools. Would the KVS. While there is an admission policy for hon.Minister constitute a committee of the regulating admissions in the KVs, it rules out Scheduled Caste and Scheduled tribe admission to many individuals whose need teachers for interviewing the scheduled cast in some cases extreme circumstances are and scheduled tribe students. apparent. The admissions by special dispensation were initially designed to take care of such cases, but such admiSSions SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, were stopped in 1987. The matter has been Sir, this question is so comprehensiv& that discussed with the Minister of Human I don't have any immediate information in Resource Development and Education this regard. Id the member wants Secretary and it has been decided that information, I would try to provide it. As far admissions by special dispensation should as the question of the irregularities is be possible in the larger social consideration. concerned, true picture will emerge only· On discussion with the Vice-Chairman, KVS after investigation. I have seen some reports and Commissioner,. KVS, it is felt that it published in the newspapers. But I think it would be desirable that the number of such would not be proper to take everything admissions Is kept as small as is feasible." published in the newspapers as correct. I would only like to submit that I would try to [ Translation] find out the facts and if any discrepancy is found, I assure you and the House that Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to inform action will be taken against the defaulters. the House in this regard that some facts including excessive admissions etc. have been coming to light from time to time and PROF. PREM DHUMAL: Mr. Speaker, unless there are sufficient reasons, there is Sir, the hon.Minister has submitted that the no question of admissions on special report had been submited in 1988 to his dispensation. The basis of special Ministry but it is not available at present in dispensation are not decided by me. They 19 Oral Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Oral Answers 20 are decided by the people of that line, they SHRI GANGADHARA are the representatives in this matter. The SANIPALLI: question has also been raised in the meeting of the Consuhative Committee of our department that such admissions should Willthe Minlsterof FOOD be pleased to not cross a certain limit and it has been state: decided to constitute a small committee to fix certain criteria for admissions forthe next year to avoid such complaints in future. (a) the stock position of foodgralns in [English] State of West Bengal and Andhra Pradesh during each of the last three years; PRO. SUSANTACHAKRABORTY: Will the hon.Minister please state as to whether the experts in the field of education and all (b) the projected procurement of wheat other committees connected with the and rice during 1992-93 marketing season educational system of our country have as against the actual demand of these discouraged admission on the basis of States;. and special dispensation, on the ground that admission on the basis ot special dispensation has led to the dilution of educational standard in the Kendriya (c) the stock position of foodgrains at Vidyalayas and cause difficulties in the present in those States separately? administration of such Vidyalayas because it inflates the class strength? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Sir, the stated MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI TARUN position on this is very clear and I would GOGOI): (a) and (c). A statement is laid on agree with the hon.Member to this extent the Table of House. that as far as possible, this should not be done. But we are also aware of circumstances where this becomes inevitable. Therefore, there is a provision that it should be done. (b) While the allotment of wheat to The question is to what extent? We will try West Bengal and Andhra Pradesh during to decide that in such a manner so that there 1991-92 was 1 0.82lakhtones and 2.761akh is no complaint on this account. tonnes respectively, there is no possibility of procurement of wheat in these States during Stock Position of Foodgralns 1992-93. In case of rice, the marketing + season for which starts on 1st October "678. SHRI AJOY MUKHO- 1992, it is too early to make any assessment PADHYAY: of the likely procurement.

STATEMENT (a) and (c). The stocks of rice and wheat with the Food Corporation of India in West Bengal and Andhra Pradesh as on 1st March, during 1990 to 1992 were as follows ~ - (Lakh tonnes) 1990 1991 1992 Rice Wheat Rice Wheat Rice wheat West Bengal 3.63 1.28 3.42 0.99 3.55 0.50 21 Ora/ Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Ora/Answers 22 (Lakh tonnes) 1990 1991 1992 Rice Wheat Rice Wheat Rice wheat

Andhra Pradesh 8.40 1.35 21.43 1.39 10.09 0.22

SHRI AJOY MUKHOPADHYAY: Sir, in appears from the replythatthe stock pOSition surplus States, procurment is in fact a price of both rice and wheat, particularly that of support operation. But in deficit States like wheat, in West Bengal, has depleted_ We West Bengal, it has become' virtually a are also witnessing that Central allocation of police operation because the market price rice and wheat for West Bengal is being remains much higher than the procrument reduced. In February 1992, rice and wheat price. I would, therefore, like to know from allocations have come down from 1,25,000 the Minister whether the Government has MT and 1,26,000 MT to 70,000 MT 90,000 any contemplation to review the scheme of MT respectively. procurement in deficit States like West Bengal and to take appropriate measures MR. SPEAKER: You have to ask a for making the scheme effective. question quickly.

Secondly, does the Government also SHRI AJOY MUKHOPADHYAY: Just contemplate to streamline the BSF now I am coming to that. As a result, the administration throughout the Indo- public distribution system of the State is Bangladesh border in West Bengal to stop failing to cater to the needs of the people. smuggling of foodgrains to the other side of So, I would like to know whether the the border? Government is seriously thinking of augmenting the allocation of rice and wheat SHRI TARUN GOGOI: Sir, We have for West Bengal." so, to what extent and by been reviewing the procurement policy. In when? fact, we have been insisting upon all the State Governments to procure more and SHRI TARUN GOGOI: It is a fact that more because the Central Government's the stock position of wheat is at low I~v~. f.s pool depends upon the States' contribution. you knew, the stock pOSition of the central pool is also low. As regards West Bengal, no doubt it is a deficit State. But in spite of that, we have As regards the rice stock, it is quite been impressing upon the West Bengal comfortable in West Bengal also. In fact, in Government to procure andtheydo procure. West Bengal the lifting was more in 1991 But it is a very small amount. They procured than in 1990. In 1990, figure for rice was only one.lakh tonnes though they produced 5.921akh tonnes, whereas in 1991, it is 6.92 hundred lakh tonnes. lakh tonnes. Similar is the case with wheat also. In 1990, it was 8.981akh tonnes and in As regards smuggling to Bengladesh, it 1991 it is 9.10 lakh ton nes. It is true that in is the State Government who can stop it. the months of January and February, there has been a reduction, because in the peak SHRI AJOY MUKHOPADHYAY: Sir, it season we decrease the allocation and in 23 Oral Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Oral AnSW8rs 24 the lean season from October onwards, we DR. DEB I PROSAD PAL: Apart from increase the allocation. the paucity of supply of rice and wheat to West Bengal, the rice and wheat supplied SHRIGANGADHARASANIPALLI: Mr. through-the public distribution system there, Speaker Sir, I wanted to know from the is of the lowest quality and it is almost not hon.Ministerwhetherthecurrentfoodgrains edible at all by the common man. Is the stock is sufficient to meet the revamped Govemment aware of this position in West public distribution system. As the Bengal's public distribution system and if so meteorologists have predicated a late what steps are the Government likely to monsoon this year, in case of low foodgrain take? production in the current year ,I would again like to know from the hon.Minister whether SHRI TARUN GOGOI: The the Government is prepared to face the Government of West Bengal have not situation and meet the requirements of the brought this quality aspect to our notice. It is revamped public distribution system in the the responsibility of the State Government succeeding year 1992-93 to verify the quality of the foodgrains before accepting the same. SHRI TARUN GOGOI: As regards rice, we are in a position you meet the Diversion of Ridge Forest Area In Deihl situation. As regards, wheat, procurement has started only now and we will have the ·679. SHRI ANAND RATNA MAURYA: clear picture in the month of July. Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: SHRI E. AHAMED: Sir, Kerala is one State where there is statutory rationing. The (a) whether the ridge forest area in Central Government are committed to meet Delhi has been diverted for construction the requirement olthe rationed articles such purposes during the last three years; as rice, wheat and sugar. According to information, the requirement of Kerala is (b) if so, the details thereof; and 160 metric tonnes per month. Whereas, the supply from the Central Pool is not even 150 (c) the reasons therefor? metric tonnes. The public distribution system which is well organised in Kerala, is now in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE a very difficult situation. I would like to know MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND from the hon. Minister.. FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) Diversion of forest area for construction MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Ahamed, this purpose has not been approved under the question relates to only West Bengal and Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980 during the Andhra Pradesh. Have you read the last three years in Delhi. question? (b) and (c).Do not arise. SHRI E.AHEMED. Yes Sir, But may I say that this is aboutthe stock position ofthe [Tmslation) two most important States. The Minister will be in a position to enlighten us .... SHRI ANAND RATNA MAURYA: Mr. Speaker Sir, Ridge area is the only natural MR. SPEAKER: No please. Sit down. green area of Delhi. To maintain the Yes Mr. Pal. ecological balance it is very essential to 25 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 1.1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26 maintain this area. During the last so many the gree area and the steps taken by the years encroachments have been going on Government to fulfil them. inthisarea.A1ongwiththeseencroachments. unauthorised construction of buildings is SHRI KAUAl NATH: No such demand also coming up and on the other hand. the has been put forth by the Forest Department vague policy of the Government • is of Delhi Administration. The staff of the endangering its future. I would like to know department would be transferred from the whether Government has conducted any other departments; and our ministry and e~uiry in respect of these encroachments Delhi Administration would work jointly. wri., and unauthorised building cnstruction.lf so, would provide all the facilities as much as we the details thereof; and the actions taken can. By! these are all aftermaths. Dirst of all during the last five years to remove the identification of the single agency is to be encroachments to protect this natural green done who would take the responsibility. area. The Minister should inform about the details of the enqUiry. SHRI TARA CHAND KHANDELWAL: Ur. Speaker, Sir, the hon.Minister has given SHRI KAMAL NATH: The submission two contradictory reply. First he says that of the hon.Member that encroachment has there is not encroachmentt and afterwords been done in Delhi green area is correct. he admitted it. The area of Delhi Ridge is around 7770 hectares .. It is now underthe supervision of SHRI KAMAL NATH: I never denied the many agencies like CPWD, DDA, MCD and encroachment cases. NDMC. In the absence for any single authority, encroachments have been done. SHRI TARA CHAND KHANDELWAL: There is no doubt that the Government Except New Delhi, the pipulation of Delhi departments like CISF, DDA, CPWD are has increased so much that other areas also among the encroachers. (Interruptions) have become too congested. What action I am providing you the genuine information. has been taken against the departments Ministry of Urban Development had which have made enroachments? conducted a survey in this regard. It had constituted a committee. We have thought SHRI KAMAL NATH: I would like to that the Forest department of Delhi inform thee hon. Uinister.... (Interruptions) Administration should be assigned the full For twelve loong years,l had been sitting on responsibHity in this regard. Therefore a that side that's why evroneously I addressed committee has been constituted, We are of the hon.member as the hon.minister and the opinion that unless we assign full this hanbitwillgogradually.lwould like to tell responsibility to the Forest Deptt and the the hon.memberthatthere is no contradiction whole area is transferred to it, its entire in my statement. I had submitted that there responsibility should be assigned to a single was no diversion under the Forest Act and agency. The said Committee has conducted there is no doubt that the encroachments a number of meetings and I hope that very have been done and I admit it. soon the whole responsibility would be given to a single agency and in due course it would MR. SPEAKER: He has asked about be transferred up to the Forest Department. the action taken in this ragard.

SHRI ANAND RATNA MAURY A: My SHRPKAMAL NATH: A Committee has second question is regarding the demands been constituted. As per conclusion of the of the Forest Department in orderto maintain Committee all the Agencies would take the 27 Oral Ar!swers APRIL 21, 1992 Oral Answers 28 responsibility of removing the [Translation] encroachments onn the areas falling under their juridictlon. Nehru Yuvu Kendra

*680. SHRI SATYANARAYANJATIYA: [English} Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOIRCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to stale:

SHRI VIJAY NAVAL PATIL: Mr. (a) the main reCommendeatlons of the Speakker, Sir, the DDAand MCD authorities last conference of Youth Affairs and Sports are making encroachments anbd Ministers pf various States regarding the unauthorised coonstructlon In Deihl by using fundlonlng and monitoring of Nehru Yyvak fo~. I would like to, know whether the Kendras; Minister will take steps to ask the Government department!; to shift to other (b) whether these recommendations palces and leave that ara inad. Otherwise, have been Impplmented; and we see that In the New Rajlnder Nagar area pruavate people are slowly encroaching this (c) if so, the details thereof? ridge area and on some orthe other pretext the Govemment departments are making [English] construdions. Now, the final decision has been taken by that Committee., This area is THE MINISTER OF HUMAN handed over to the Department of Forests RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI and the DDA. There will be more ARJUN SINGH): (a) to (c). A statement is encroachments. So, I would like to know laid on the Table of the Sabha. from the hon.Mlnisterwhat Immeediate steps he is going to take to stop further STATEMENT eencroachments on this land? . (a) There were three recommendations arising out of the last conference, held oin SHRI KAMAL NATH: Sir, I am 18th November, 1991! pertaining to Nehru concerned wiuth encroachments of forest .. Yuvak.Kendras:- land. The hon.Member Is talking about the ridge area. There is no doubt that the ridge . (1) The DistriCt Level Organising is a very important ecosystem of Deihl. It is Committee of tile Nehru Yuvak very i"1lortant from the pont of view of, Kendra Sangathan to ecology and environment aspecdS of Deihl. . be broad based by providing . -Specific representation frotn Sir, I have stated that there have been sports, culture and folk arts. . \ encroachments., A Committee has been set ip and the various agencies underwhornn (2) For better coirdinationl various areas of the ridge came have been monlrOnrlg (rt the woft( of Nehru asked to take Immediate steps for removal Yuvak Kendr", and t 0 oit encroachments. This Committee has· establls" Its linkage with various held several Meetings. It has almost held _other .programmes of the State five or six meetings. And effective steps are Government, a' State Level being taken to deal with this problem of Coordination Committee headed encroachments. by the Minister Incharge of 29 OriJI Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30 Youth Affairs & Sports be set-up. SHRI SATYA NARAYAN JATIYA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon.Mlnister has raplied (3) A Kendra should be that a kendra would be opend in every established In each district district by the end of the Eighth Dolve Year Immediately and also In so me Plan. Then It has also been said that all this blocks wherathe dlustric:tsare large depend on the availability of funds and In size and population. circumstances, Through you, I would like to know from the hon.Mlnlster whether (b) and (c). The composition of the availability of funds is ensured at the time of District Organising Committee golvlng formulating the schme to open a kendra In adequate representattion to area like every district? sportys, culture, and folk arts as well as the compositiion ofthe State level Coordiantlon SHRI ARJIN SINGH: Ur. Speaker, Sir, Committee for monitoring the work of the availability of the funds can not be ensured Kendras has been finalised., The State by a single department. It depends on the Govemments will now be raquested to set total availability of the funds with the whole up these Comrnitttees and also to ensure administration and the Government. There that the Committee meet reguularly. is no problem of funds for Nehru Yuvak Regarding setting up of the Kendrasdd Kendra. It was there of course, some time In every district, the Sangathan opened 28 back at ihat time Kendras became almost new Kendras iun 1991-92 for which funds Inative ande Idle for two years but now there have already been relaesed. The Sangathan will be no problem of funds In future. . aims to open a Kendra un every district by thee end of the Viii Five Year Plan. It may; SHRI SRIBAlLAV PANIGRAHI: Sir, it howeever, not be possible to have Kendras is a fact that for the last two years, all these at the block level even in the case of large units of Nehru Yuvak Kendra were somewhat districts, due to pauciuty of funds. defunct. But now, they have been revamped further. [ TI31Jslation] Three racommendations are mentioned SHRI SATYANARAYAN JATIYA: Ur. ·In the raply. I want to know whether the Speaker, Sir, through you I would like to performance of te Nehru Yuvak Kendras know from the hon. Uinister whether any was also diSCUSsed In the Conference. special directions have been issued in regard to the functioning of the committee which Was thera any demand for expansion are to be constituted under these of the activities now being undertaken by th recommendations. Kendras·to some other areas?

THE UINISTER OF HUMAN Was there also any complaint that the RESOURCE DEVELOPUENT {SHRI funds available for carrying on all these- ARJUN SINGH): Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is activities were meagre and because of that, a proposal to set up these committees there was also a demand to enhance grants . everywhere, but these have not yet been etc. to these units? constituted at all places., These are being constitluted accoordlng tot~ decision take,n Ih such case, what Is the reaction of the in the last meeting of the ministers. The Govemment? question of their style of functioning will arise once these all ar set up. . SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Sir, the 31 Oral Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Oral Answers 32 discussion that took place with all the Sir, these kendras have been opened after hon.Ministers of different States was a very the name of Pt.JawaharLal Nehru. Hanybod comprehensive discussion in which all these has any objection, I can not do anything in factors that the hon.Member is saying did this regard. rlnterruptions) figure. That is why it was decideed that we should have a State level coordination SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Nobody has committee so that the deficiencies that have any objection on Nehru's name but occuured in this programme do not occur in congressmen are being benefited. the future and at the same tlime so far as the (Interruptions) evaulation is concerned. I am ssure thatt these Committees at the district and State SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, level in the first instance will do this evaulalion Sir, it is not a platform to benefit anyone nor and then go to the next state of implementing to take action against anyone. Its activities the programme. are clear. Its one of the most important activities is that it will work for unity and So far as the resources are concemed, integrity of the Nation and there is no politics have already mentioned that it is not involved in it. (Interruption~ entirely within my power. [English] [Translation] • SHRI SARAT CHANDRA SHRI VIRENDRA SINGH: Mr. Speaker, PA TIANAYAK: I would like to know from the Sir, some recommendations were made hon.Minister whether the Government is regarding the functioning and monitoring of considering any proposal to involve the Nehru Yuvak Kendras in the last confernce Nehru Yuvak Kendras at village planning for of Youth Affairs and Sports M ·inisters of development; and if so whether any scheme various States and ut us a common has been worked ouut in this regard. impression that Nehru Tuvak Kendra's programme are aimed at the development SHRI ARJUN SINGH: The effort is to of folk culture and rural culturee and the make these Kendras the focal points fora lot politics should not be allowed to enter into it. of development activities. For. example, But I would like to knowfromthe hon.Minister these Kendras are doing very useful work as to why the political appointments of officers forthe literacy mission, health programmes are made in these kendras and why is this and family planning. Everything is being kendra being politicized? It has been focussed because this is one agency which discussed in various newspapers and is working amongst the youth and therefore magazines. What action is being !taken in all the development activities that have a this regard? bearing on the general development and special development of any section of the [English] people are undertaken by them. An effort is SHRI SARAT CHANDRA being made within the constrains of the PATIANAYAK:I would like to knowfromthe finance to involve them and make them the Hon.Minister whther. the Govemment is focal point for these activities. considering any proposal. [Translation 1 [ Translation] SHRIMATI SUMITRA MAHAJAN: Mr. SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, Speaker, Sir. through you I would like to 33 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Ora/ Answers 34 know the total grant given to Nehru Yuvak STATEMENT Kendra in the last three years and whether the programmes are run and money is spent (a) to (c). The National Literacy Mission in the States in consultation with and (NLM) was lainched in May, 1988 with the cooperation of the State Governments objective of imparting functional literacy to 80.00 million adult illiterates in the 15-35 SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Mr,. Speaker, agegroup by 1995. The National Literacy Sir, hon.Member has asked forthe details of Mission Authority (NLM) was set up on 20th the last three years. I would like to inform june, 1988 as an Independence autonomous thatthis scheme was not in operation for two wing of thge Minisry of Human Resosirce years of the last three years. It has been Development (Department of Education), restarted in 1991. The Planning Commission cested with full executive and financial has fully evaulated the causes of not giving powers in itts sphere of work. It is the funds to itfortwo years, It has also gone into operating and implementing organisation at the need of providing funds to it. The Prime the national level for all the acctivities Minis ter has ordered to provide the funds evisaged in NMl. The role of NMLA is of again after the evaulation has been made. diversified character and includes (i) policy So far as the question of reducing the and planning, (ii) deevelopmental and expendituure is concerned, I have already promotional activities, (iii) operatiional told that I will endevaour to ensure that the fuunctions, including assistancee to funds are spent as per the guidlines laid voluntary agencies anbd other non- down in the conference of Ministers of governmental organisations, (iv) technology various States. demonstration, (v) leadership, training, (vi) ressource development, including media and mete rials, (vii) research and [Eng/ish] development, (viiii) monitoring and evaluation etc. MR. SPEAKER: On 681 is put off No w On.No.682. The NMLA has a Council headed by thee Minister of Human Resource National Literacy Mission Authority Development, and an Executive Committee headed by the Union Education Secretary. *682. SHRI JEEWAN SHARMA: Will The Authority may also set up such other the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE bodies, committees, groups and task forces, DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: as it considers necessary to consider various aspects relating to literacy and adult (a) whether the Goverrnment have set education. Whereas, the Council lays down up a National Ute racy Mission Authority; the pOlicies anbd programmes in the field of literacy and adult education, the Executive (b) if so, the details thereof; and Committee carries out all the functions of the Authority in accordence with the policy (c) the functions assigned to the and guidelioes as klaid down by the Council. Authority? ( Translation] THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI SHRIJEEWAN SHARMA: Mr. Speaker. ARJUN SINGH): (a) to (c): A statement is Sir, the objeective of the National Literacy laid on the Table of the House. Mission has been to impaart functional 35 Oral Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Oral AnslNlS 36 Literacy to 80 Million people. How many [English] peoople have been benedited so far? Alongwith it, I would like to know the number SHRI RUPCHANO PAL: Sir, during the of the proposals received from various last few years, one State Kerala,and a few voluntary and non-official organisations other districts of our country have attained pending with the Government and the time fun literacy. What ara these districts? by which the GGovernment will give clearance to tthem? As has been stated In the reply, one of the rasponsbilities of NMLA is resource ( Interruptions) devlopment including media and materials. Some of these districts are undertaking post SHRI ARJUN SINGH: I have not heard literacy progrtammes. Sir, as you know, you properly. those who have attained full literacy without adfequate post literacy programmes will be MR. SPEAKER: How many proposals again thrown Into literacy. This Is the of volountary organisations are pending with exzperlence the world over. the Government and the time by which these will be cleeared by the Government? May I know from the hon.Minister whether adequate reading material for the ( Interruptions) post literacy programmes ara available In dlfferant languages and also wt1ether the MR. SPEAKER: I myself could not NLM has arranged for provision of such understand it properly first. meterial?

SHRI ARJUN SINGH: As per present SHRI ARJU N SINGH: Sir, the figuras 15 million people have been covered hon.Member has raised a very important so far as the question of non-official and a vital point, which is about covering of organisations is concenreed. We have the areas where we have completed the raceived a number of proposals from them. literacy campaign. For the post literacy . I can not provide details of all those proposals campaign thera are no regression In those yet I acknowledge their valuable areas.. Also wherever necessary and if contriobution in this missin. Our policy is to thera Is anything like that, that could be encourage more and more such taken care of. Kerala is an Instance In point. organisations. which had completed this in the entire State. The effort In this refard is being made by the SHRI JEEWAN SHARMA: I would like State bodies. And aU the funds that are to know by what time the remaining 65 raquired folr oublishing or bringing about million people will be copvered? any material have been provided. I think and I beleive that all that Is being utilised in the SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, manner it should be. Sir, It Is not that no work is being doen to •coover the remaining people. I have said SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHARY: that 15 million people have been covcered Since this Mission has come Into existance and the schemes have been launched to in 1988 whether anyevluation ofthe prograss cover the remaining people. I hope and we has soo far been made by the Central all are making efforts to cover all the AAuthority, if so, whid does ult Indicate? I ramalnlng people In the country by the end would like to know whether it has achelved of this decade. the objective or Is far behind it. If the 37 Written AnswetS VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 38 corresponding State literary Missions are information furnished by UGC, the functioning, what Is the contribution of the Commission' has several schemes for Government agencies- the percentage of provldlng.grants to Universities for promotion contrlbutlon·of Government agenclees and of l888arch, and to Individual scholars for the percentage of contribution of the non- Doctoral or Postdoctoral research, Although official agencies In achieving literacy there are specific conditIOns goveming each grant or fellowship, the main conditions SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Sir, so far as applicable to UGC l888aroh schemes are thee evaluation Isconcenred, there Is almost as follows: • aconstant evulation going on through bodies which are outside the Govermment so that there maybe an authentlcandfalrevaluation. (I) The· research' must be Theree are some States where problems pursued In the areas specified in have arisen. But, this much lean tell you that the sanction. every State now In this country Ius totally committed to this programme and they are (II) Assistance must be utilised doing their level bast. If there are any' for the purpose for which It Is deflcencias anywhere, we are trYing to sanctioned. remove them. I would not say that there Is some basic flaw in the entire appraoch. (iii) The search scholarl department must fumlsh periodical reports. WRITIEN ANSWERS TO QUESTION$ (h,) .The grantee Institution ·must [ Translation] furnished utilisation certifieaie to theUGe. Grant. and Scholarship. by U.G.C. (v) Posts created under UGC ·674. SHRI BHOGENDRA ;~JHA: Will assistance must be maintained by the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE the grantee InstitUtion after UGC DEVELOPMENT be pleased to s~te: ,II. assistance has ceased.

(a) the conditions laid down by the (b) & (c). The first Instalment of grant or University Grants Commission for providing fellowship Is released only after the grantee grants and scholarships to various institution undertakes to comply with Universities, institutions and departments conditions of grant. Subsequent Instalments for conducting Research Work, Doctoral are released on the basis of periodic progress and Post-Doctoral degrees; reports and utilisation certificates. According to the Information fumlshed by UGC, In (b) the action taken In_ cases where some cases of non-compliance or these conditions are not complied with; and unsatisfactory progress, the Commission had to discontinue the grant. (c) the steps taken to ensure their proper and effective compliance? [EngRsh)

THE MINISTER OF HUM1AN U" Une Exp.... RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH): (a) According to the ·683. SHRI BHUWAN CHANDRA 39 Written Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Wtflten Answers 40 KHANDURI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS (f) Existing arrangement is considered be pleased to state: adequate for the time being by the Impact India Foundation. ; [ TranslStton]

(b) the average daily operational Manufacture of coach•• and wagon. expenditure being Incurred thereon; ·684. DR. MAHADEEPAK SINGH (c) whether any time bound target has SHAKYA: Will the Ministerof RAILWAYS be been fixed to achieve its optimum functional pleased to state: objectives; (a)the number of coaches and wagons (d) If so, the details thereof; that were required by the Railways to meet the traffiC demand during 1990-91; (e) the success rate in running the express and the areas so far covered by it; (b) the n umber of coaches and wagons and that were manufactured during that year; and (f) the steps proposed to be taken to make it more beneficial for needy rural (c) the lefforts being made to meet the areas? gap between the demand and supply?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MI NISTEROF RAILWAYS (SHRI MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) Taking into MALLIKARJUN): (a) The Lifeline Express, accountthe traffic demand and the resource launched by the Impact India Foundation, a position, it was decided to procure 1734 registered Public Trust has the facilities of a coaches and 23,000 wagons in 1990-91. modem and sophisticated Hospital and is designed to provide on the spot diagnostic (b) In the year, 2056 coaches and medical and surgical treatmenttothe patients 23,672 wa!~ons were acquired. affected by Polio, cataract and hearing deficiency. (c) There was no shortfall in the prograrnffi(~ and actual procurement in the (b) No operational expenditure is being year. incurred by the Railways. This is being incurred by the Impact India Foundation. [Engliish]

(c) No specific time limit has been fixed Flr'st Aid Centre at Railway Stations by the Impact India Foundation. ·686. SHRI MUMTAZ ANSARI: (d) Does not arise. SHRI RAJESH KUMAR:

(e) The Impact India Foundation has Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be successfully completed 3 of its pilot projects plle8lSad to state: in the remote areas of Khilari and Chainpur in Bihar and Farah near Mathura in U.P. A (a) the number of railways stations in fourth camp near Amethi is in progress. the country without any first aid centre, 41 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 zonewise; (c) The steps taken include the following:

(b) whether the Government have (I) Setting up of National Parks, formulated any scheme to set up one first Sanctuaries and Biosphere aid centre at major railway stations; and Reserves for protection of the fauna and flora, including threatened (c) if so, the time by which this scheme species; Is likely to be implemented? (i1) Enforcement of the Wildlife THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (Protection) Act, 1972, which, after C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) There are no the amendment in 1991 includes First Aid Centres at railways stations. endangered plants and which now However, stations dealing with passengers provides strict penalties for are provided with static First Aid Equipment infringement; in First Aiel Box available with Station Master! Station Superintendent. (iii) Regulation and prohibition of trade and commerce in endangered (b) No, Sir. species of tlora and fauna under the Convention of Inter-national (c) Does not arise. trade in Endangered species of fauna and flora (CITES); Endangered SpeCies of Plants (iv) Ex -situ conservation of endangered ·687. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: species in botanical gardens to Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND ensure survival of these species FORESTS be pleased to state: under captive conditions for their future restoration in the wild; (a) the species of plants in India which are on the verge of extinction; (v) Setting up of a National Bureau of Plant Genetic Resources under (b) the names of the extinct species of the Indian Council of Agricultural plants during the current century; and Research; and

(c) the steps being taken by the (vi) Launching of public awareness Government to save the endangered species ca"l>aigns. of Plants from extinction? STATEMENT-I THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 1. Acer hookeri Var. Majus. FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) A list of species of plants in India which are 2. Acer oblongum Var. considered to be in danger of extinction in Mel""'branaceum the wild, is given In Statement-I 3. Acer oblongurn Var. Microcarpum (b) The names of some plant species which are possibly extinct, not having been 4. Acer osmastonii reported to have been seen after the turn of the Century, are given in Statement-II. 5. kAr sikkimense Var. Serrulatum 43 Written Answent APRI. 21, 1992 Written Answers 44 6. Acllnodaphne bumeae 30. Ceropegla odorata

7. ActInodaphne lanata 31. Ceropegla omIssa

8. Adlnandra grlfflthll 32. Ceropegla panchganlensls

9. Anaphalls barnesll 33. Cissus spectabilis

10. Anoedochllus Nlcobaricus 34. Clematis apicuiata

11. Arenaria curvlfolla 35. Crotalaria clavata .

12. Arenaria ferruginea 36. Crotalarla fysonii Var. Glabra

13. Arenaria thangoensis 37. Crotalaria kodalensis

14. Athyrlum atratum 38. Crotalarla Iongipes

15. Begonia aliciae 39. Crotalaria sandoorensis

16. Begonia anamalayana 40. Cryptocoryne tortuosa

17. Belosynapsls kewensis 41. Cyathe nillgirensis

18. Bentinckla nicobarica 42. Cymbidium whlteae

19. Berberis lambeertii 43. Decashistia rufa

20. BuChanania barberi 44. Dendrobium aurantiacum

21. Calamus Intermls 45. Dendrobium tenulcaule

22. calanthe anthropophora 46. Dendroglossa mlnutula

23. calanthe pachystalix 47. Desmos viridiflorus

24. Ceropegia barnesii 48. Dicliptera abuensis

25. Ceropegia beddomei 49. Didiciea connlnghamil

26. Ceropegia fantastica SO. Dipcadi minor

27. Ceropegia hookeri 51. Elaegnus conferta

28. Ceropegia lawll 52. Elaphoglossum nilgiricum

29. . Ceropegia mahaba,,1 53. Eugenia dlscifera 45 Wdlten AnswerS VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Wdlten AnsweIS 46 54. Eulophla nlcobarlca 78. LIndsaea maJabarIca

55. Euonymus qulatus 79. Ulum macklneae

56. Euonymus assamlcus 80. Uvlstona Jenklnslana .--" 57. Euonymus serrallfolius 81. Malleola andamanlca

58. Fllchlngerla hesperls 82. Memecylon flaveseens

59. Frerea Indica 83. Me1eor omyrtus wynaadensls

60. Glnalioa andamanica 84. Mitrastemon yamamoti

61. Hildegardia poulifolla (Roxb) 85. Nogra fIIlcaulis

62. Humboldtla bourdillonl 86. Nothopegla aureo-fulva

63. Humboldtia laurlfolia 87. Oianthus deccanensis

64. Humboldtla unljuga Var. Unljuga 88. Phlorrhlza hisplda

65. Hydnocarpus macrocarpa 89. Ophlorrhlza Incarnata

66. Impatiens analmudica 90. Ophlorrhiza subcapltata

67. Impatiens johnll 91. Ophiorrhiza wattii

68. Impatiens munnarenls 92. Paphlopedllum falrrieanum

69. Impatiens ntlo-bamessi 93. Paphiopedilum wardii

70. Impatiens nilagirica 94. Phalaenopsis speciosa

71. IIsea malabarlca 95. Phlebophyllum jeyporense

72 Kendrickla waker! 96. Phyllanthus narayanaswamii

73. Laduca benthamil 97. Pimpinella tirupatensls

74. Laduca cooperl 98. Pif11)inella wallichil

75. Lactuca filicina 99. Plmplnella tongloensls

76. Lactuca undulata 100. Pogostemon nllaglrlcus

77. Leucas mukerjlana 101. pogostemon paludosus 47 Written Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Written Answers 48 102. Pseudocyclosorous gamblei 126. Utleria salicHolia

103. Pseudocyclosorus griseus 127. Uvaria eucincta

104. Psychotria arborensis 128. Vernonia munibracteata

105. Psychotria globicephala 129. Vernonia pulneyensls

106. Kalanchoe roseus 130. Vernonia recurva

107. Renanthera imschootiana 131. Wendlandia andarnanica

108. Sageraea grandiflora 132. Youngia nilgiriensis.

109. Salacia jenkinsii STATEMENT-II

110. Saiacia malabarica Name of some Plant Species Considered Possibly Extinct, Based on Available Data 111. Santapaua rnadurensis Carum villosum Haines (Apiaceae) 112. Saussurea costus ligusticum albo-alatum Haines (Apiaceae) 113. Scilla viridis Pimpinella evoluta (CI.) Malh. (Apiaceae) 114. Selagineiia adunca Pimpiinella pulneyensis Gamble (Apiaceae) 115. Selaginella cataractum Carex repanda CI. (Cyperaceae) 116. Senecio Kundaicus Dipcadi concanense (Dalz.) Baker (Liliaceae) 117. Sphaeropteris crinita Dipcadi reheedii Deb et Dasgupta (liliaceae) 118. Strobilanthes halbergii Urginea polyphylla Hook. f. (liiiaceae) 119. Syzygium courtallense Abutilon ranadei Woodr. et Stapf 120. Syzygium gambleanum (Malvaceae)

121. Syzygium travancoricum . Coelogyne truetlerl Hook. f. (Orchidacea)

122. Taeniophylluym andamanicum Pleione lagenaria lind!. (Orchidaceae)

123. Toxocarpus longistigma Vanda wightii Reichb.f (Orchidaceae)

124. Trivalvaria kanjilalii Deyeuxia simlensis Bor (Poaceae)

125. Urginea congesta Eragrostis rottleri Stapf (Poaceae) 49 Wrftten Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Wrftten Answers 50 Erlochrysis rangacharll Fischer (Poaceae) (a) and (b). No medicines after their expiry date were destroyed In Government ~ubbardia heptaneur on Sor (poaceae) Hospitals andC.G.H.S. Dispensaries in Delhi during 1990-91. Ophiorrhiza Bamesii Fischer (Rubiaceae) (c) and (d). No, Sir. Ophiorrhiza radicans Gardn. (Rubiaceae) [English] Sterculia khaslana Debbarman (Sterculiaceae) Semester System

Bunium nothum (CI.) Mukherjee (Apiaceae) *689. SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR PATEL: lIey gardneriana Wt. (Aquifoliaceae) SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI: Pavetta wighti; Hook.f. (Rubiaceae) Will the Minister of HUMAN Madhuca bourdillonii (Gamble) H.J. Lam RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased (Sapotaceae) to state:

Madhuca insignis (Radlk.) A.J. Lam (a) whether the Government have (Sapotaceae) examined proposals for introduction of Semester System at Higher Secondary level [ Translation] throughout the country;

Medicines Destroyed after Expiry Oat. (b) if so, the details thereof; and

*688. SHRI SURESHANAND SWAMI: (c) the time by which the Semester Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY System is likely to be introduced? WElFARE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF HUMAN (a) the value of medicines destroyed RESOURCE DEVelOPMENT (SHRI after their "expiry date" in Government ARJUN SINGH): (a) to (c). The National Hospitals and CGHS Dispensaries during Policy on Education, 1986 stipulated that 19~O-91 ; one ofthecomponents of examination reform would be the introduction of the semester (b) the details thereof; system from the Secondary stage in a phased manner. The draft Curricular (c) whether raids were conducted during Framework for Highere Secondary that period at Medical Stores/Agencies in Education prepared by the National Council Delhi in a bid to seize the medicines after of Educational Research and Training their "expiry date-; and (NCERT) in July, 1988 also recommends the semester system. (d) if so, the outcome thereof and the action taken thereon? The National Conference organised by the NCERT on 9-1Oth March, 1992 with THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND representatives of various Boards of FAMILYWELFARE(SHRIM.l.FOTEDAR): Secondary/Higher Secondary Education and 51 Written AnSW91S APRIL 21,1992 Written Answers 52 other experts recommended Introduction of (b) the amount provided to each State semester system at the Higher Secondary Governent/Unlon Territory under this stage after wide-ranging discussions with scheme during each of the last three years? . the concemed State Boards of Secondaryl Higher Secondary Education. A nationally agreed pattem of semester system at the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Higher Secondary stage would depend on MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND the outcome of these discussions. F9R~STS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) The Ben~aary Oriented Scheme for Tribal [~Slation] Devtilopmenf seeks to provide central assistance to State Governments for Js.nefiClary Oriented Scheme for Tribal relocation and rehabilitation of tribal villages Development which are shmed outside the project Tiger areas, National Parks and Sanctuaries. *690. SHRI LALIT ORAON: Will the Proposals for shming of the tribal villages Mlnisterof ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS and for assistance for their relocationl be pleased to state: rehabilitation were received from the states of Madhya Pradesh, Tamil Nadu., Uttar Pradesh,. Karnataka, Kerala, Arunachal (a) the steps taken by the Government Pradesh and Mizoramandafterdue scrutiny, under the Beneficiary OrIented Scheme for Central assistance was released. Tribal Development during the last three years, State-wise and Union Territory-wise; (b) A Statement Is laid on the Table of and the House.

STATEMENT

The amount of Central assistance provided to various States and U. Ts. during the last thIH yealS Is as (oHows:-

fRs. in Lakhs)

StateslU. T. 1991-92 1990-91 1989-90

Madhya Pradesh 5.45 21.89

Tamil Nadu 16.93

Uttar Pradesh 2.36

. Karnafaka 10.00

KeraJa 5.75

Arunachal Pradesh 5.32

Mizoram 26.09 25.00 20.00 Total: 41.54 47.25 S:i 53 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 54 CompenNtIc\n for Damaged Good. the end of the Eighth plan;

*691. SHRI CHHATIRA PAL SINGH: (b) if so, whether this programme has . SHRI PRABHU DAYAL been approved by the Government; and KATHERIA: (c) if so, the numberof sdlools proposed Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be to be set up under this programme In Delhi? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF HUMAN (a) whether the Government provide RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI compensation to the passengers In respect ARJUN SINGH): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir, With a of their booked goods damaged in transit; view to promoting universalisation of Elementary Education, Delhi Admn. (b) if so, the number of such cases proposes to cover ten lakh children In the settled during 1991; age group of 6-14 years by the end of 8th plan period. Delhi Admn. also proposes to (c) whether the payment of open 120 new Middle Schools, upgrade 275 compensation in such cases is made after a sdlools and convert 550 existing Secondary long period; and and Sr. Secondary schools into composite model schools. (d) if so, the steps taken by the Govemment for expeditious payment? Training to School Children In Sport. endGame. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) Yes, Sir. *693. SHRI VIJAY NAVAl PATll: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (b) 39 cases were settled by payment DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: during 1991 In respect of damage In transitJ oss or partial delivery of goods booked by (a) whether there are some schemes in passengers (luggage). the New Education Policy to provide training to school children In sports and games; (c) No, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof; (d) Does not arise. (c) the achievements made in exploring [English) talent amongst school children; and

Elementary Education In Deihl (d) the new steps proposed to be taken to train school children to upgrade the ·692. SHRI R. SURENDER REDDY: standard in sports and games? Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (a) whether the Delhi Administration ARJUN SINGH): (a) and (b). The School . has embarked on an ambitious Education Is primarily the responsibility of ·universalisation of elementary education· the State Governments and Union Territory programme under which it proposes to cover Administrations. No centrally sponsored 1.Q,OO,OOOchlldren in the 6-14age group by scheme under the National Policy on If ten Answers 56 55 Wrttten M/I;,Wt;J(S

Education has been launched to provide primery schOOlS In the country. training to school children in sports and games. However, under the schemes of (c) Achievements made in explonng 'Operation Blackboard' a set of games talent amongst schoolchildren undervarious equipments like skipping ropes, footballs, schemes of Sports Authorny of India are d< volley balls, rubber balls etc. are provided to under:·

Sl No. Name of scheme Present. No. of children bemg nurtured

1. National Sp~rts Talent Contest. 1217

2. Boys Sports Companies. 273

3. Special Area Games. 412

From amongst the talents scouted by (c) the remedial steRs ~aken by the Sports Authority of India under these Government in this regard? schems, children have won a total number of 1128 medals at the National Level and 40 THE MINISTER OF HUMAN medals at International level in competitions. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH): (a) According to the (d) Besides extending the schemes of University of Delhi, it is not a fact that serious talent scouting and scientific nurturing to irregularities took place in the allotment of Kendriya Vidyalayas. Navodaya Vldyalayas. rooms to students in various hostels of the 'Iarge sized Residential schools and Public University during 1991-92. Admissions to sector Townships, the question of reducing the hostels for 1992-93 have not yet been the academic load of students and making made. physical education a part of academic syllabus are engaging the attention of the (b) and (c). Do not arise. Government. Guidelines for Question Papers IrFegularities In Allotment of Hostel Rooms 7234. SHRI KESRI LAL: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 7233. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of HUMAN (a) whether Government have issued RESOURCE DEVELOPMENTbe pleased any guidelines/norms for setting of question to state: papers in the public schools in Delhi;

(a) whether serious irregularities (b) if so, the details thereof; occured in the allotment of rooms to the students in various Hostels of University of DeJhi during 1991-92 and 1992-93; (c) whether some of the public schools, in Delhi while selting the question papers (b) if so, the details thereof; and are no! giving any choice to the students and 57 Written A .. """,., VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 58 all questions are to be answered by the Is also tlven preference In specific items like students; and Notice boards, station name boards etc. and in the documents, forms etc. meant for (d) ho, the Instructions proposed to be use of the Public. issued to such public schools? (d) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVelOPMENT (SHRI u.. of Colours and Flavours In Soft ARJUN SINGH): (a) No, Sir. No such norms Drlnka orguldellnes have been issued In respect of internal tests and examinations in unaided 7236. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA private schools (some of which are known GA VIT; Will the iwfinister of HEALTH AND commonly as 'Public schools"). FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state:

(b) Does not arise. (a) the measures taken to check arbitrary and indiscriminate use of artificial (c) Yes, Sir. cOlours and flavours in soft drinks and confectionery during the last three years; (d) It is not considered necessary to and issue any instructions in this regard. (b) the action taken against the Preference to Regional Languages manufactures of harmful colours and flavours and also against those using 7235. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Willthe preventive colours in eatables and soft drinks Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: under the relevent Acts and provisions of Food Products Order? (a) Whether the local language of the respective State is given preference in non- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Hindi speaking States; MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI O.K. THA~DEVI (b) if so, whether the local language SIDDHARTHA): (a) and (b). The lists of Marathi is being given preference in permitted colours and prohibited flavours Maharashtra by the Railway Administration; have been prescribed under Prevention of Food Adulteration Rules, 1955. (c) if so, the details in this regard; and

(d) if not, the reasons therefor? The food health authorities of States/ UTs. who are primarily concerned with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE administration of PF A Act, 1954 and Rule MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 1955 made thereunder, monitor quality of MALlIKARJUN): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. food, including eatables and soft drinks, and check arbitrary use of artificial colours and flavours. (c) Although in the Offices of Central Government, which include the Offices of the Railway Administrations, official work Legal action is taken against those can be transacted either in Hindi or in English, violating provisions of the PFA Act, 1954 but regional language ofthe state concerned and Fruits Product Order, 1955, 59 Written Answers APRL 21, 1992 Written Answers 60 Adulteration In Biscuit. EMU Rak .. on Westem Railway

7237. SHRI BHUPINDER SINGH 7239. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the Minister HOODA: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (a) the number of EMU rakes received (a) whether cofll)laints of adulteration by Western Railway (Suburban Section) in Parle and Brltania biscuits have been during 1989-90 and 1990-91; received by the Government during the last three years in Delhi; and (b) the number of EMU rakes available at present; (b) if so, the action taken in the matter? (c)the numberof rakes discarded during THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the above period; MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARADEVI (d) the number of rakes to be received SIDDHARTHA): (a) and (b). As per the during 1992-93; Information received from the Delhi Administration, no such complaints were (e) the number of rakes required to received during the last three years. increase the suburban services?

Offer of Wheat from Non-Resident "- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Indiana MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): (a) Number of EMU rakes/ 7238. DR. R. MALLU: Will the Minister coaches received are as under:- of FOOD be pleased to state: 1989-90 - 10 motor coaches and 18 (a) whetherGovemment have received trailer coaches (3 rakes and one motor an offer from Non-resident Indian of USA to coach). sell 2.0 million tonnes of wheat of 'A' Grade quality to India at a rate lower than the rate 1990-91 - 8 motor coaches and 16 offered by the US Government; and trailer coaches (2 rakes and 2 motor coaches and 4 trailer coaches.

(b) if so, the reaction of the Government (b) 68 thereto? (c) Number of EMU rakes/coaches discarded are as under:- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI TARUN 1989-90 -4 motor coaches and 4 trailer GOGOI): (a) and (b). A Los-Angeles based coaches. NRI had submitted his offer in response to the global open ,tenders invited by the 1990-91 - 12 motor coaches and 36 Government for- import of wheat. After trailer coaches. (4 rakes and 12 trailer considering all the offers received, the coaches). Government has decided not to place any orders for the purchase of wheat on the (d) During 1992-93, Western Railway is basis of the present tender inquiries. scheduled to receive 8 motor coaches and 61 Writt9n AnSW9rs VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Writt9n AnSW9rs 62

12 trailer coaches (2 rakes). to examine the recommendations taking into account the views of the UGC and the (e) In order to increase frequency of State Govemments. The Report of the services besides rakes other operational Committee is expected to be placed before requirements like platform, maintenance the CABE for its consideration at its next facility, path etc. are necessary. Exact meeting. requirement of rakes can be worked out only when exact increase is indicated (e) Does not arise. keeping other operational requirements in mind. SUrvey on Planta

[ Translation] 7141. DR. LAL BAHADUR RAWAL: Will the Minister of ENViRONMENT AND Gyanam Committee Report FORESTS be pleased to state:

7240. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: Will (a) whether the Government have the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE conducted any field survey on flower plants, DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: medicinal plants and herbs in the country;

(a) whetherthe Government have since (b) if sO,the details thereof, State-wise; received the report of Gyanam Committee; and

(b) if so, the details of its (c) the steps taker} by the Government recommendations; for the preservation of rare species?

(c) whether any decision has been taken THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on those recommendations; MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT & FORESTS(SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) Yes, (d) if so, the details thereof; and Sir.

(e) if not, the reasons for the delay in . (b) The information is given in the this regard? Annexure.

THE MINISTER OF HUMAN (c) The steps taken include the RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI following:- ARJUN SINGH): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, The Report of the UGC Committee entitled (i) Setting up of National Parks, 'Towards New Educational Management", Sanctuaries and Biosphere under the Chairmanship of Prof. A. Gnanam Reserves for protection ofthe fauna has made nearly 150 recommendations on and flora, Including thr~ten8d different aspects of management of higher species; education. A copy of the Gnanam Committee Report has been placed in the Parliament (Ii) Enforcement of the Wildlife library. (protection) Act, 1972, which, after the amendment in 1991 includes (c) & (d). The Central Advisory Board of endangered plants and which now Education (CABE) had authorised its provides strict penalties for Chairman to constitute a CABE Committee infringement; 63 Written AnswelS APRIL 21,1992 Wrltten Answ.ts 64 (iiI) Regulation andprollibftlon oftradB under captive condition. tor their and commerce In endangered future "'toration In Ifill wild; species of fauna and flora under the Convention of International (v) Setting up of a National Bureau of Trade In Endangered species of Plant Genetic Resources under fauna and flora (CITES); the Indian Council of Agricultural Research; and (Iv) Ex-siluconversation of endangered species In Botanical Gardens to (vi) launching of public awareness ensure survival of th!tse species c:at11'8igns

STATEMENT

State-wise Details of Recsnt Botanical Surveys

Andhra Pradesh Survey continuing, Flora of Nallamalai hills published in 1987.

Andaman & Nicobar Islands (UT) Survey continuing.

Assam Survey continuing; Flora being compiled.

Arunachal Pradeh Survey continuing; Flora being compiled.

Bihar Survey continuing; Published Flora of Bhagalpur district.

Goa, Diu, Daman 'Flora', published In 1985. Dadra and Nagarhavell

Gujarat Survey continuing; Flora of Saurashtra published in 1988 (Vols. 2 & 3)

Haryana Survey continuing

Himachal Pradesh Survey continuing, Flora of Himachal Pradesh published in 1984.

Jammu & Kashmir Survey Continuing. Flora being compiled. Pro. P. Kachroo published Flora of Kashmir Valiey.

Karnataka Survey continuing; Flora of Karnataka published in 1984

Kerala Survey continuing; Grasses of Kerala and Flora of Silent Valiey (Palghat) published. Flora of Kasargod, 65 Wrltfen Answers VAISAKHA 1.1914 (SAKA) Wrltfen Answers 66 Tiruvananthapuram dists. being published.

Maharashtra Survey continuing; Flora of Maharashtra Is beln, processed for publication. Floras of 8 districts written.

Manlpur Survey continuing; Flora of Manlpur Is being compiled.

Mizoram Survey continuing; Flora is under compilation.

Madhya Pradesh Survey to continu; Flora of Madhya Pradesh Vol. 1 is processed for printing.

Nagaland Survey to continue; Flora is being compiled .

Orissa Survey to continue; Folora of Mahanadi mangroves compiled.

Punjab Survey continuing; Flora of Punjab Plains brought out.

Pondicherry Flora under preparation. (UT)

Rajasthan Survey to continue; Flora of Rajasthan Vols. 1 & 2 published. Vol. 3 Is under print. 2 or 3 district floras have been published.

Sikkim Survey continuing

Tamil Nadu Flora of TamU Nadu - Analysis (3 Vols.) published.

Tripura Survey to continue; Flora of Tripura published.

Uttar Pt;adesh Survey to continue; Check- list of Flora of Upper gangetic plain published.

West Bengal Survery to continue; Flora of West Bengal Vol. 1 is being compiled.

[English) Commission has suggested the formulation of MasterPlan forthe development of higher Development of Higher education education In every State;

7442. KUMAR I PUSHPADEVISINGH: (b) H so. the steps taken by the WID the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Govemment in this ragard; and DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (c) the funds earmarked for this

(b) and (c). Do not arise. (a) the total amount earmarked for subsidy to Public Distribution System during [ Translation) 1991-92; and

Conversion of Lines In Madhya (b) the actual amount provided for the Pradesh purpose during the above period?

7243. SHRI SUSHll CHANDRA THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE VERMA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be MINISTAY OF FOOD (SHAI TAAUN pleased to state: GOGOI): (a) and (b). Food subsidy is paid to Food Corporation of India for (a) the names of the metre-gauge and reimbursement of (i) the difference between narrow-gauge railway lines proposed to be the economic cost of foodgrains and their converted into broad-gauge in Madhya issue prices viz. consumer subsidy and (ii) Pradesh; carry11Jp CGst of buffer stocks. During the year 1991-92 a total amount of As. 2,850 (b) whether the survey has been crores has been released/paid to the Fel conducted in this regard and plans and towards food subsidy. estimates chalked out; and Railway Projects ir'l Bihar (c) if so, the details thereof? 7245. SHAI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of AAILWAYS be pleased MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI to state: MALLIKARJUN): (a) (i) Neemuch-Ratlam (133 km) MG to BG. (a) the particulars of the railways projects in Bihartaken up before the Seventh (ii) Jabalpur-Gondia (228 km) NG to Five Year Plan which were under execution BG. or completed during the Seventh Five Year Plan period; (b) and (c). The works are included in the Action Plan for Gauge Conversion to be (b) the date of completion of each such taken up by this Ministry in the 8th PI~n. The project and the status thereof as on March. approx. costs of these works are as under: 31,1992;and

. Neemuch-Ratlam As. 66.5 crores. (c) the original estimated cost and the Jabalpur-Gondia Rs. 136.8 crores. actual cost of the projects? 69 Written AnSwelS VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 70 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE As. 2Ocrora each, started befora the Seventh MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Five Year Plan, with their present status,ls MALLIKARJUN): (a) to (c). A statement attached. giving major railway projects costing over APRIL 21. 1902

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- 73 Wdttan Answant VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Wdttan Answ.,. 74

cO =31: !.0 ..... co Q) --~ a::oi ~ .c iii -c: U . !~ ~ !;8' ... )( :::E .E CD ::E 5~ a. "'1/)>' .5 CD·- .1:1 .~ "tJ It) .5~-gi !(') t .!Q CD 1"11- - i c: • J! ~~ -e- .~ ~~ ~ ::IE 8 Q....-.28

I! ~ I! u ~ 0 u 0 i ~ ~ .~ I ... (I) N c! ! a:iii

I! I! ~ ~ u u ~I It) (I) 1"111:) ..,. <0 .s: !II .!ilI .... (') -

1"11 c-0 .- c-0 ~- ':"l!;::; ::::I 1"11 ~ C\i ~)(~ 1/). "'J!!E g- iij!E ~l ~ _i 1"II.c_ilaO) ~ .cowg- Ou~ V5S\!!

- 75 Written Answers APRIL 21,1992 Written Answers 76 Supply of Boiled Rice to Assam National Environment Commission

7246. SHRI PROBIN DEKA: will the 7248. SHRIMATI OIL KUMARI Minister of FOOD be pleased to state: BHANDARI: Will the Minister- of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be (a) whether the Assamese people in pleased to state: rural areas prefer boiled rice; (a) whether Government propose to (b)if so, whether the percentage of set up National Environment Commission; boiled rice being supplied to Assam and other States is proposed to be increased; (b) if so, the details thereof; and and (c) if not, reasons therefor? (c) if so, the details thereof, State- wise? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a)to (c). MiNISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI T ARUN The matter is under examination. GOGO I): (a) Government of India is not aware of any such preference. Uneconomic Railway Lines

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 7249. SHRIATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Upgradatlon of Treatment in Cancer to state: Institute of Gauhati (a) whether the Government classifies 7247. SHRI UDDHAB BARMAN: Will railways lines as remunerative and un- the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY remunerative; WELFARE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the total kilometers of railways (a) whether the Union Government have lines in each classified category; received any proposal from the Government of Ass~m to improve and moaernise the (e) the total kilometers of railway lines treatment in B. Baruah Cancer Institute, that are used in suburban railways in Gauhati, Assam; Bombay, Calcutta and Madras;

(b) if so, details thereof; and (d) the marginal cost of these suburban railways for the last three years; and (c) the action.taken by the Government in this regard? (e) the marginal cost of railway lines in Uttar Pradesh for the last three years, for both remunerative and un-remunerative THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lines? MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARADEVI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (c). The informations MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Is being collected and will be laid on the MALLlKARJl:IN): (a) and (b). A review is Table of the Sabha. conducted every year to determine ~h! un- Ti Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 78 remunerativeness of branch railways lines has been undertaken to ensure that only. The total length of the branch lines textbooks do not contain any material that found unremunerative during 1990-91 was may foster communal and castist feelings about noo Kms. and gender bias.

(c) 1241.89 Kms. as on 31.3.1991 for (c) The guidelines and syllabi as well as EMU - Suburban sevic8s. textbooks in history prepared by the NCERT have played a very important role in (d) The marginal cost of suburban promoting an objective study of the past at services is not compiled. the school stage.

(e) The information is not compiled Recognition to Schools In Rural Araas State-wise. 7251. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will Projection of Indian History In True the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Perspective DEVELOPMENT be pleased 10 state:

7250. SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: (a) whether the recognition to the Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE schools in rural areas is given by the Central DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Board or Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangthan to improve the standard of education or to (a) whetherthe Government have taken bring the standard at par with thai of cities; any steps to ensure that text books do not and foster communal feelings or bias against women and weaker sections of· society; (b) if so, the number of schools recognised so far in the rural areas? (b) if so, the details thereof and THE MINISTER OF HUMAN (c) the action taken to project Indian RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI history in true nationalistic perspective? ARJUN SINGH): (a) Recognition to schools is given by the concemed State Govememnt or Union TerMory Administration and not by THE MINISTER OF HUMAN the Central Board of Secondary Education RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI or Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan. ARJUN SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) As per the latest available data (b) The National Policy on Education compiled by the NCERT in connection with (N.P .E.) 1986 envisaged a national system Fifth All India Education Survery, out of total of education based on a National Curricular number of 735,771 schools (as on 30.9.86) Framework containing core components in the country, 634,908 i.e. 86.29% of the including equality of sexes and removal of total, were located in rural areas. social barriers. These core curricular areas specified in the N.P.E. are also reflected in Aided Schools In Deihl the National Curriculum Framework and syllabi and textbooks prepared by the National Council of Educational Research 7252. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: and Training (NCERT) in history and other Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE areas. A programme of textbook evaluation DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 79 Written AM_IS APRIL21,1992 Written AnSW91S 80 (a) whether many schools getting 95% to nominate members on the Council from grant-In-aid from the Deihl Municipal each State; Corporation have since stopped functioning for the last many years but are still getting (d) if SO, the delaos thereof; and aid from the Corporation; (e) if not. the reasons therefor? (b) whether teachers of these schools who have been placed to work In other THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE schools of the Corporation are getting their MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY salaries from the management of these WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI aided schools; SIDDHARTHA): (a) As per the provisions In the Rules and Regulations of the Central (c) If so, the names of such schools and Council for Research in Yoga and the reasons for continuing aid to these Naturopathy the Governing Body consists schools; oI4expertslnYoga .... expertslnNaturopathy and 2 experts in Modem Medicine to be (d) whether many of these aided schools nominated by the President of the Council have not paid salaries to their teachers for besides 8 ex-officio Members. In addition to the past many months; and this. a Member of Lok Sabha/Rajya Sabha or an eminent citizen having interest In the (e) if so. the action proposed to be field of Yoga and Naturopathy is also taken by the Government In this regard? nominated as a Member of the Governing Body. THE MINISTER OF. HUMAN RESOURCE DEVelOPMENT (SHRI (b) The names and addresses of the ARJUN SINGh): (a) to (e). The Information Members of existing Governing Body of is being collected and will be laid on the Central Council for Research in Yoga and Table of the Sabha. Naturopathy are given in the Statement annexed. Central Council for Yoga and Naturopathy (c) to (e). Experts in Yoga. Naturopathy and Modem Medicine nominated on the 7253. SHRIMATI D1PIKA. H. Council are seleded from the experts TOPIWALA: available In the StatesJUTs. There Is no PROF. SHRIMATI RITA proposal at p!'8Sent to nominate Members VERMA: on the Council from each State.

Will the Minister of HEAL TH AND STATEMENT FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (I) EX-OFFICIO (a) the criteria for nomination of MemberstotheCentralCouncilforResearch 1. Honourable Minister for Health & in Yoga and Naturopathy; Family WeHare. Nlrman Bhawan, New Deihl. (b) the particulars of the Members nominated In the Council; 2. Mlnlsterol State for Health & Family Weifare. Nirman Bhawan. New (c) whether the Government propose Deihl. 81 Wlftten Answers VAISAKHA " 1914 (SAKA) Wlftten AnsW81S 82 3. SecJ'8taryorhls nominee, MJHeaIth 2. SWami Devanand, &F.W. NirmanBhawan, New DeIhl. Director, Shlvanand Math & Yoga Ashram, Calcutta. 4. Joint Secretary (ISM) MlHealth & F.W. Ninnan Bllawan, New Deihl. 3. Smt. S.A.Y. Rajya laxml, Principal, Yoga Training & 5. Financial Advisor, Mltiealth &F.W. Research Unit, Nirman Bhawan, New Delhi. Tirupathy, Andhra Pradesh.

6. Mrs. Renuka Mehra, Dy. 4. SWami Riuanand, Educational Advisor, Ministry of Director, Indian Yoga Institute, Human Resource Development, Patna (Bihar) (Department of Education) IV 2 EXPERTS IN MODERN MEDICINE 7. Director, National Institute of Naturopathy, 6-Ramabhai 1. Dr. S.D. Sharma, Ambectkar Road, Bapu Bhavan, Addl. D.G. Pune. D.G.H.S.

8 Director, Central Council for 2. Director of Medical Education, Research In Yoga & Naturopathy, Maharashtra. Member Secretary, W-14,FlatNo. 5, Grater Kailash (P-II) New Deihl. V. EMINENT CITIZEN

1114 EXPERTS IN NA TUROPA THY 1. Shri Ganesh Shankar Pandey, General Body, 1. Dr. B. Yenkata Rao, All India Youth Congres (1) Gandhi Nature Cure College, Flat, No. 408, Block 87, Hyderabad. Sector 1, Gole Market, New Delhi 2. Dr. A.M. Nair, Nature Cure Research Hospital, Rashtrlya Sanskrit Sansthan Patper Ganj, New Delhi. 7254. DR. RAMESHCHANDTOMAR: 3. Miss Nirmala Deshpande, SHRIRAJENDRAAGNIHOTRI: Jivan Nirman Kondra, Panch Ii, SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: Meerut (UP). SHRI ASTBHUJA· PRASAD SHUKLA: 4. Dr. B.T.C. Murthy Ujjaire, Shri D.M. College of Naturopathy Will the Minister of HUMAN & Yoga Sciences, Ujire • 574240 RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased (Dist. Kannada) Kamataka. to state:

III. 4 EXPERTS IN YOGA (a) whether the Government propose to declare the Rashtriya Sanskrit sansthan 1. Swami Gitanand, P. as an institution of National Importance; Director, Anand, Ashram, Pondicherry. (b) if so, the details in this regard; and 63 Written AnSW61S APAIL21,1992 Written AnSW6IS 84 (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (e) If so, the amount of grants released to these Federations during last two years; THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (d) whetherthe Sports-Authority of.India ARJUN SINGH): (a) No, Sir. monitors proper utilisation of these grants; and (b) and (c). The Government has no proposal to declare the Rashtriya Sanskrit (e) If so, the details thereof? Sansthan as an institution of Nation'lll if1llC)rtance. The Sansthan is an autonomous THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE body under the Department of Education, MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE Ministry of HRD mainly for the purpose of DEVELOPMENT (DEPARTMENTS OF looking afterthe administration of the Central YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND Sanskrit Vidyapeethas and conducting WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT) Sanskrit examinations which are also (KUMARI MAMATABANERJEE): (a)Annual conducted by many other Universities etc. Long Term Development Plan (L TOP) meetings are held in which officials from Grants to Sports Organisations by SAl National Federations, Department of Youth Affairs & Sports and Sports Authority of • 7255. SHRI ANANTRAO DESHMUKH: India participate to finalise the coaching and wfll the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE competition plan for the year. These plans DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: are periodically evaluated to ensure proper implementation. (a) the mechanism adopted by the Sports Authority of India in regard to coordination with various Sports (b) Yes, Sir. OrganisationslFederations in the country; (c) The grants released to the National (b) whether grants to these Sports Sports Federations by the Department of Organisations/Federations are released Youth Affairs and Sports during the last two every year; years are as under:

(figures in lakhs)

Year Plan Non-Plan

1989-90 As.207.09 As. 201.00

1990-91 Rs.245.30 As. 83.92

(d) and (e). National Sports Federations Minister of FOOD be pleased to state: submit audited statement of utilisation of funds released by the Department of Youth Affairs & Sports. (a) the number of permanent and temporary godowns of F.C.I. and the [ Translation] locations thereof; PermanentITemporary Godown. of F.e.l. (b) the conditions of these godowns and the details of stocks stored therein; and 7256. DR. P.R. GANGWAR: Will the 85 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 (c) the steps taken to ensure that the temporary storage called. CAP stocks do not rot, pilfered or bungled in the (cover and plinth). temporary godowns of F.C'!.? (Iv) Stocksarestoredonwoodencrates THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and covered with specially MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI TARUN fabricated low density black GOGOI): (a) The total number of permanent polythene covers which are water and temporary (owned and hired) godowns proof. available with the Food Corporation of India as on 30.9.1991 was 1578. State-wise! (v) Nylon ropes are provided for proper agency-wise position is as in the annexed lashing of polythene covers to statement. prevent damage by blowing off of covers during storms. (b) The conditions of permanent and temporary godowns (owned and hired) is (vi) MonOfilament nets and covered storage-worthy. As on 1.3.1992 the stocks tops are provided in major CAP stored in these godowns were to the extent complexes for additional protection of 11.06 million tonnes (10.40 in permanent of foodgrains. godowns and 0.66 in temporary godowns). (vii) Aeration of stocks stored in CAP is (c) The following steps are taken to done regularly to maintain the ensure that the stocks do not rot or pilfered health of stocks and also to avoid or foLingled in the temporary godowns of damage by condensation on F.C.I.:- account of humidity and temperature variation. (i) Foodgrains are stored on scientific lines and pest control measures (viii) The stocks are subject to regular are undertaken regularly. inspection and protection wherever reguired for control of infestation (ii) Qualified and technically trained caused by insects and other pests staff is deployed for periodical like rodents, birds etc. inspection and proper upkeep of foodgrains. (Ix) Adequate security arrangements are made in such godowns to avoid (iii) Whenever there is need, pilferage and bungling. Surprise foodgrains are stored in open under checks by senior officers are also SCientifically designed system for conducted. 87 Written Answers APR1l21,1992 Written Answers 88

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7257. PROF. UMMAREDDY THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE VENKATESWARLU: MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI TAR UN SHRI JAGMEET SINGH BRAR: GOGOI): (a) The storage capacities available with Food Corporation of India Willthe Ministerof FOOD be pleased to (F C I) and Central Warehousing Corporation stale: (CWC) as on 1 2.1992 and their State-wise break·upareglveninthestatementannexed. (a) the 10tal storage capa::ity of godownslwarehouses of the Food Corporation of India/Cer'ral Warehousing (b) The percentage utilisation of Corporatlo'1 with loca:!on thereof. State- godowns/warehouses by these agencies .vlse: and dUring the ;.lst three years was as follows:- "ear Fel C.W.C.

1989-90 4939% 77% 1990·91 65% 78% , 991-92 56.50% 75% (as on 1.2.1992)

STATEMENT

State- wise Storage Capacity with Food Corporation of India/Central Warehousing Corporation as on 1.2.1992.

(Capacity in Lakh Tonnes)

F.CI C.W.C.

Arur.Jc~~IPfade~h 0.15 10.82

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4 6.40 1.69 019 0.17 799 3.16 16.16 2.26 0.28 0.05

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,.- 3_44 1.77

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F.C'!. C.WC.

12. Madhya Pradesh 11.39 5.81

13. Maharashtra 15.07 8.19

14. Manipur 0.12 0.003 ..

15. Meghalaya 0.21

16. Mizoram 0.12 0.02

• 17. Nagaland 0.16 0.13

18. Orissa 3.72 1.25

19. Punjab 55.69 6.14

20. Rajasthan 8.38 1.35

21. Sikkim 0.07

22. Tamil Nadu 6.84 6.38

23. Tripura 0.38 0.24

24. Uttar Pradesh 2547 9.27

25. West Bengal 12.72 5.80

26. Chandigarh 0.71 0.18

27. Delhi 3.89 1.67

28. Pondicherry 041 015

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Homoeopathlc Pharmacy Education (a)whetherGovemmenthavere\;·\ ~~ the eligibility of Homoeopathlc Pha rr.;:q 7258. SHRI BARE LALJATAV: Will the Course for working Homoecpathl. Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Pharmacists in the dispensanes :lnd WELFARE be pleased to state: hospitals on the basis of their practlca 99 Written Answers APRil 21. 1992 Written Answers 100 experience; [ Translation)

(b) if so. the outcome thereof; Appointment of Reserved Categorle. In Archaeological SUrvey of India (c) whether there is any proposal under Govement's consideration to constitute a 7259. SHRI SHARAD YADAV: Will the committee for Homoeopathic Pharmacy Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Education and its council for the progress DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: and career improvement of Homoeopathlc Pharmacists in the country like their (a) the total number of Group A,B,C, counterparts in other systems of medicines; and 0, employees working in the and Archaeological Survey of India and the number of employees out of them belonging (d) if not, whether the Government to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes propose to consider the matter for in each group; advancement of the Homoeopathic Pharmacy Education? (b) whether any special recruitment drive has been started for filling up of reserved THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE vacancies; MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI (c) if so, the number of vacancies filled SIDDHARTHA): (a) No, Sir. up so far along with the number of posts stili vacant: and (b) Does not arise. (d) it not reasons therefor? (c) and (d). The Government do not propose to constitute the Committee for the THE MINISTER OF HUM.AN Homoeopathic Pharmacy Education or to RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT IS~Ir,: set up a Homoeopathic Pharmacyu Council ARJUN SINGH): (a) The total number o~ at present. The subject of Honoeapathic Group A,B,C. and D employees WOrking In Pharmacy is already been taught In detail in the Archaeological Survey 01 InOla and the the under graduate Homoeopathic n~mberof employeesbeionging to SC/ST ;', courses. each group are given below:-

Group Tetal No. of Employees belongmg to

SC ST

A 118 17 8

B 235 25 3

C 1318 196 36

o 5537 1173 225

Total: 7208 1411 272 t 01 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 (b) There are number of cadres in ASI, galEstt. (A) SRDdated March 14,1990, the the number of unfilled reserved vacancies in resorved vacancies were identified and each cadres is not so large as to warrant for notifj;ed to recruiting agencies viz. UPSC, special recruitment drive. However, in SSC, employeement Exchange etc. OPes compliance with the general instructions for were convened to fill up the vacancies. filling up the reserved vacancies from time to time in particular to Department of (c) The Information Is given as Personnel and Training O.M. No. 2803415/ under.-

Group Reserved Vacancies filled up safar Unfilled Vacancies

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B 25 3

C 196 36 7 6

D 1173 225 15 6

1411 272 26 13

(d) In view of band c above, the question THE MINISTER 0 F STATE IN THE does not arise. MINISTRY OF HEAL T'H AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI [.l.K. THARADEVI Blind Persons In Uttar Pradesh SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (d). A survey conducted in 1986-89 ind'icated that the 7260. SHRI ARJUN SINGH YADAV: prevalence rate of blindness i n Uttar Pradesh Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY is 1.58%. District-wise nurnber of blind WELFARE be pleased to state: persons is not available. Control of blindness is a Centrally sponsored scheme. Facilities (a) the number of blind persons in Uttar for operation of cataract are not available in Pradesh, district-wise; Primary Health Centres. The Central Government does not propose to provide (b) the number of districts where Primary specific facilities at Primary Health Centres H£!alttl Centres have been eqUipped with of Uttar Pradesh for cataract op.eration in the facilities for performing cataract 1992-93. However, Central Government operal,cns; proposes to continue re-imburse.rnent at approved rates for operations done in cluding (c) whether more districts are likely to these at Primary Health Centres level by be equipped with this facility during the naxt non-Governmental orginsations. year; and Khanclwa-Oahod Railway Lin. 7261. SHRI MAHENDRA KUMAR (d) if so, the details in this regard, SINGH THAKUR: Will the Minister of district-wise? RAILWAYS be pleased to state: '03 Written Arts"" APRIL 21, 1992 Wrlnen AnsIWHl 104

(a) whether a survey for Construction and is expected to be CO.ted by July, of Khandwa-Dahod railway line has been 1992_ conducted; Loco-Shed at AlJpurdua, Junction (b) if so, the details thereof; and 7263. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: Will the (c) the time by which the construction of Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: the railway line is likely to commence? (a)thedetallsoftheexpendltureincurred THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on the Loco-shed in Alipumuar Junction on MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI N.F. Railway; MALLIKARJUN): (a) No, sir. (b) whether this loco shed is proposed (b) and (c) Does not arise. to be shifted; and

(English) (c) if so. the reasons therefor?

Electrification of Bangalore-Madra. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Railway Line MINISTRY Of RAILWAYS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN);

(c) the time by which this project is likely 7264. SHRI SHANKERSINH to be cOl'1llleted. VAGHElA: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): (al Madras-Jolarpettai has

(c) Certain peripherial works like wiring (b) whether the Government propose of gc,ods line near Bangalore area as well as to fmmulate a nationalUquor policy with due Me'lre Gauge yard in Bangalore City Station con sideration for the safety and health of under conversion to Broad Gauge are in the population and proper compensation for different stages of planning and execution acc.dent victims; and 105 Written AnSWBl'S VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 106

(c) if so, the details thereof? (e) the steps taken by the Government to ensure the proper utilisation of funds in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE this regard? MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K.THARADEVI THE MINISTER OF HUMAN SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (c). There is no RESOURCE DEVelOPMENT (SHRI proposal to set up an independent single ARJUN SINGH): (a) Under the Centrally agency to deal with the production, Sponsored Scheme of Vocationalisation of distribution and licensing of liquor in the Secondary Education upto 1990-91, country in place of existing multiple agencies. financial assistance was sanctioned by the Central Govemment to State Governments! Vocational Institute. In Country UTs for introduction of Vocational courses at the +2 level in 3755 institutions. This 7265. SHRI BRAJA KISHORE represents about 19.6% of the total number TRIPATHY: of HigherSecondary Schools Jr, the country . • SHRI DAATTATRAYA BANDARU: (b) A statement is attached.

Will the Minister of HUMAN (c) and (d). In August, 1991 a news item RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased appeared in 'The Hindustan Times' to state: indicating, inter-a/iathat the funds released by the Central Government were not spent (a) the percentage of vocational by the State Government of Bihar on the institutes in Secondary and Higher items for which it has been prOVided. The Secondary level in the country, State -wise; State Government of Bihar clarified that the funds sanctioned by the Government of (b) the total expenditure incurred on India have not been diverted by the State those institutes during 1991-92 and allocation Government for other purposes. made for 1992-93, State-wise; (e) The Central Government regular1y (c) whether the Government have reviews the implementation of the Vocational received any complaints about the diversion Education programme in the StateslUTs in of funds allocated for this purpose; meetings and dUring field visits. The State Govemments/UTs are advised to utilise the (d) if so, the detailS thereof; and sanctioned funds appropriately.

STATEMENT

Centrally Sponsored Scheme of Vocationa/isation of Secondary Education

State/Union Expenditure incurred Allocation for 1992-93 Territory by the Central Govt. during 1991·92 (Rupees in lakhs)

Andhra Pradesh 1010.235 An allocation of Rs. 7900.00 lakhs has been made State- 107 Written Answers APRIL 21,1992 Written Answers 1 08

State/Union Expenditure incurred Allocation for 1992-93 Territory by the Central Govt, during 1991-92 (Rupees in /akhs)

wise allocation of funds is not made.

Arun~chalPradesh 6.355

Assam 140.28

Bihar 0.75

Gao 49.65

G:.Jjarat 879.375

Haryana 155.00

Himachal Pradesh 56.858

Jammu & Kashmir 15.80

Karnataka 324.996

Kerala 346.899

Madhya Pradesh 3.00

Maharashtra 1230.25

Manipur 44.00

Meghalaya

Mizoram

Naaaland

Ori5sa

222.25

Rajasthan 323.56 109 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 110

StatelUnion Expenditure incurred Allocation for 1992-93 Territory by the Central Govt. during 1991-92 (Rupees in lakhs)

Sikkim 0.044

Tamil Nadu 727.90

Tripura

Uttar Pradesh 99.1475

West Bengal

A& N Islands

Chandigarh 29.77

Dadar & Nagar Haveli

DJmar, & Diu

Delhi 0.::0

Lakshadweep

Total:

[ Translation] (c)tl'te details of the organisations States participated in the said conference? Conference by NCERT THE MINISTER OF HUMAN 7266. SHRI N.J. RATHVA, Will (he RESOURCE DEVelOPMENT (SHRI Minister of HiJMAN m:SOUnCE ARJUN SINGH): (a) No, Sir. DEVELOPMENT be pleased 10 state: (b) and (c). Do not arise. (

(b) if so, the details of the issutlS raised 7267. SHRI MOHAMMAD ALI and discussed in the above conference ASHRAF FATMI. alongwith the decisions taken; and SHRI NITISH KUMAR: 111 Written Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Written Answers 112 Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVElOPMENT (SHRI RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased ARJUN SINGH): (a) No Sir, to state: (b) Question does not arise. (a) whether the Government propose to introduce major changes in the education Technical Education Infrastructure In policy of Jammu and Kashmir; TamliNadu

(b) if so, the details thereof alongwith 7269. DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN: Will the reasons therefor; and the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (c) the time by which these are likely to be implemented? (a) the details regarding the Technical Education infrastructure available in Tamil THE MINISTER OF HUMAN Nadu under sponsorship/assistance of the RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Union Govemment; ARJUN SINGH): (a) to (c). Government are determined to pay particular attention to the (b) the efforts made to increase the special educational needs of the State of percentage of students belonging to SCIST Jammu and Kashmir. The Border Ar:ea in these Technical Education Institutions; Development (Education) Programme was and under implementation from 1987-88. Assistance was provided under this (c) the details regarding the kinds of programme for construction of school assistance provided to SC/ST students buildings, hostels, staff quarters, additional wanting to pursue technical studies in these class rooms and laboratories, for introduction institutions? of vocational courses, for establishment and strengthening of polytechnics and ITLs, THE MINISTER OF HUMAN for Adult Education and Non-formal RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Education etc. ARJUN SINGH): (a) In Tamil Nadu, apart from All India CouncilforTechnical Education [English) approved degree and diploma level institutions, the Indian Institute of Site Museum at JaJpur In Orissa Technology, Madras is fully funded by the Government of India and the Regional 7268. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will Engineering College, T richy is jointly fu nded the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE by the Government of India and the State DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Government.

(a) whether the proposal for setting up (b) and (c). In the Indian Institute of of sculpture shed and site museum of Technology, Madras admiSSion of SC/ST Archaeological Survey of India at Jajpur in students is made as per the Governemnt of Orissa has been approved; and India norms. In he Regional Engineering College, Trichy, apart from the reservation (b) if so, the time by which it is likely to as per the Government of India norms for be set up? students from other States, the State Governemnt reservation rules apply for THE MINISTER OF HUMAN students from Tamil Nadu. In addition to 113 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 running a preparatory course for VANDAYAR: Will the Minlsterof RAIL WAYS academically weaker SCIST students the be pleased to state: Indian Institute of Technology, Madras provides exemption from payment of tuition (a) the comparative cost of operation of fees, free messing, rail fare for counselling a steam, diesel and electric locomotives; and ex-gratiagrant in deserving cases. The and Regional Engineering College, Trichy provides exemption from payment of tuition (b) the lime by which electrification of all fees and books to SCIST students. Post- railways lines is likely to be completed? Mat ric scholarship is available to SCIST students under the Govemment of India THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE scheme in both the institutions. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALlIKARJUN): (a) The comparative cost Operation Cost of Locomotives of operation per 1000 Gross Tonne Kilometres in respect of steam, diesel and 7270. SHRI K. THUlASIAH electric tractions is given as under:-

(Figures in Rupees)

(1989-90)

Traction Broad Gauge Metre Gauge

Passenger Goods Passgener Goods

Steam Does not now operate under circumstances similar to diesel and electric locomotives.

Diesel 38.27 28.00 62.20 46.57

Electric 46.04 27.02 72.04 71.83

(b) Electrification of railway tracks on SHRI BALRAJ PASSI: Indian Railways is a continuous process. SHRIMATI MAHENDRA Electrification projects are undertaken on KUMAR I: techno-economic merits and operational requirements on a section to section basis. Will the Minister of HUMAN As electrification projects are capital RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased intenSive, only high traffic density routes to state: qualify for electrification. (a) the amount spent by the Union Shramik Vidyapeeth Scheme Govemment on the Shramik Vidyapeeth Scheme during 1991-92, State-wise; and 7271. SHRIMATI KRISHNENDRA KAUR (DEEPA): (b) the number ef persons benefited DR. LAXMINARAYAN unOer the Scheme during above period, PANDEYA: State-wise? 115 Written Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Written Answers 116 THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE (a) and (b). DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH):

Sf. No. StateslUTs Grant released to No. of persons Shramk Vldyhapeeths benefited undsr the uncler Pian/Non-Plan Scheme during during 1991-92 1991-92

1 2 3 4

1. Andhra pradesh 26.74lakhs 62,635

2. Assam 4.65 • 3,505 3. Bihar 3.81 · 4,991 4. Gujarat 16.24 • 19,226

5. Haryana 5.46 • 9.705

6. Jammu 2.00 • Not available

7. Karnataka 10.07 • 5,527

8. Uaharashtra 22.00 • 32,099

9. Uadhya Pradesh 5.02 • 3,985

10. Rajasthan 20.14 • 37,225

11. Orissa 11.05 • 8,913

12. Tamil Nadu 23.45 • 36,376

13. Uttar Pradesh 10.65 • 20,927 14. Kerala 5.10 · 15.299 15. West Bengal 11.40 • 4,212

16. Chandigarh (UT) 4.08 • 3,993 17. Delri (Central) 8.22 · 8,929

lot;:;! R:;. 190.08 Lakhs 2,75,527 117 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 Forest Land DIv.... lon Proposal. of (b) the names of the proposals cleared Gularat by the government so far;

7272. SHRI AVTAR SINGH (c) the reasons for delay in clearing the BHADANA: pending projects; and SHRI SHIVlALNAGJIBHAI (d) the steps taken to clear these VEKARIA: projects early?

Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE AND FORESTS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) and (a) the names ofthe forest land diversion (b). A statement is attached proposals received by Union Government from the State Government of Gujarat for essential purposes like water supply, (c) and (d). After receipt of all the electricity transmission lines and wanting details from the State Government, construction of schools holdings during the the proposals are examined expeditiously last one year; for decision. 119 Written Answers APRIL 21,1992 Written Answers 120

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Catering Services on Thana SIDHARTHA): (a) and (b). The Govemment Station of Kerala had sent a proposal for upgrading the medical facilities in Medicat colleges at 7273, SHRI RAM KAPSE: Thiruvananthapuram, Kozhikode and KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI Thrissur under the Indo-Japanese grant in SINGH: aid programme. The proposal has been approved by the Ministry of Health and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be forwarded to the Department of Economic pleased to state: . Affairs, Ministry of Finance, for posing it to the Government of Japan. response from (a) whether the Government have the Japanese side is awaited received any representation from Thane in 1992 regarding poor catering services .on Homoeopathic Medical Colleges in Railways; and - Delhi

(b) if so, the action taken thereon? 7275, SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of HEALTH THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AND FAMILlY WELFARE be pleased to MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI state: MALLlKARJUN): (a) Yes, Sir, (a) the number and names of the (b) Improvement in catering services in Government and Govemment recognised an on-going continuous process. Steps Homoeopathic medical Colleges in Delhi; taken/proposed to be taken included use of standard raw r.a:erials,use of modern (b~ whether the basic minimum I

Upqrad: tion c:f Medical Facilities in (d) whether the Government propose Kerala to take over the management 01 such colleqas: 7274_ PFOr-. K.V. THOMAS: Will the Mlnister of HEALTH AND FAMILTY (e) if not; the reasons therelor; and WELFARE bo pleased te state: (f) the steps proposed to be taken to (a) whetner Kerala Government has ensure that the minimum basic facilities are sent any P!C oosat for upgrading the medical provided in these collegas? facllitie, i1 Medical Collages at Trivandrum, ... Calicut ;In-! -i'richurunderthe indo-Japanese THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gran-in-aid programme for approval; and MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILTY WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI (b) if so, the dedsion taken thereon? SINDDHARTHA): (a) to (f). There are two recognised Homoepathic Colleges in Delhi, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of which Nehru Homoeopathic Medical MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY College and Hospital is functioning under WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI the control of Delhi Administration and Dr. 125 Wrinen Answers VAISAKHA- 1, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 B.R. Sur, Homoeopathic Medical College is (a) whether the Govemment have run by a Private Trust. Both these colleges launched Community Health Guide scheme are recognised by the Board of in the country; and Homoeopathic System of Medicines, Delhi. _Both these institutions do not meet the (b) if so, the details thereof? prescribed minimum standard by the Central Council of Homoeopathy. The Central THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE council of Homoeopathy (CCH) has written MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY to Delhi Administration as well as these WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI • instftutions to provide the minimumstandards SIDDHARTHA): (a) and (b). No. scheme as prescribed by the C.C.H. There is no called the Community Health Guide Scheme proposal under consideration of the Delhi has been launched by the Government. Administration to take over the mangement However, there exists a scheme known as of DR. B.R. Sur Homoeopathy Medical Village Health Guide Scheme since 19n, .. ~ollege at this stage. which is 100% Centrally sponsored Scheme.

Rail Link between BIJnor and The Village Health Guide is an honorary hastlnapur-GanJ worker with a nominal honorarium of Rs. 501 -per month. They were also given a medical 7276. SHRI MANGAL RAM PREMI: kit (for Rs. 501 per month), which is not being Will the Minister of RAliWAYS be pleased given since July, 1986. There are 3.35lakhs to state: .HealthGuidesason31.12. 1991. The village Health Guide is meant to be a vital link ~ (a) whetherthe Ministry have conducted between the Village Community and the any survey for construction of a railway line Health and Family Welfare institutions . . from Bijnor to Hastinapur-Ganj via Meerut; Allocation of Foodgralns to (b) if so, the outcome thereof; and Maharashtra

(c) the action proposed to be taken 7278. SHRI DHARMANNA thereon? ., MONDAYYA SADUL~ SHRI UDAYSINGH RAO ... THE MINISTRY OF STATE IN THE GAIKWAD: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): (a) to (c). Preliminary Will the Minister of FOOD be pleased to Engineering-cum-Traffic Survey for new line state: between Daurala (near Meeru) and Bijnor via Hastinapur has_ been taken up and is (a) the actual assessment of Foodgrains expected to be completed in 1992-93. production in Maharashtra during current Further consideration of the project wiD linancial year and likely Rabi production depend on the results of the survey and during 1992; , - ...... availability of resources in the coming y~ars.

Community Health Guide Scheme (b) whether the Government of Maharashtra has urged the Union 7277. SHRI BIRSING MAHATO: Will Government to step-up the State's monthly the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY allocation of wheat and rice due to fall in WELFARE be pleased to state: production of Foodgrains in the State; 127 Wdften Ans....,. APRL 21,1992 (c) Iso, the adiontaken by Govemment asSIstanca of the Union ~mmant; on the request of the State Govemment; and (d) I so, the details of grants being provideclto them annually and the names of (d) If not. the reasons therefor? the degrees awarded by them; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (e) the details of the total amount spent MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI TARUN so far by the Union Govemment on these GOGOI) :(a) Foodgrains production Is institutions? assessed in terms of crop year (I.e. July- June) and notln terms of financial Year. As THE MINISTER OF HUMAN· per tne current assessment by State RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Government, the total production of ARJUN SINGH): (a) Shri Lal Bhadur Shastri foodgrains during 1991-92 crop year is Kendriya Sanskrit Vldyapeeth, New Deihl expected to be about n.57 lakh tonnes in was accorded the status of a Deemed to b1 Maharashtra, which Includes a likely rabl University as Shri Lal Bahadur Shastri Fo~rainscrop of about 15. 731akh tonnes. Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeeth, New Deihl.

(b) Yes, Sir. (b) Government has no Information.

(c) and (Ii). Allocation of what and rice (~) and (d). Only Shri Lal Bahadur from the Central Pool far PDS to various Shasti Rashtriya Sanskirt Vidyapeeth, New StateslUTs Is made keeping in view the Deihl Deemed to be University is being stock pastion in the Central Pool, relative provided financial assistance. In 1991-92 a~ needs of StateslUTs, seasonal availability, grant of As. 10.00 lakhs (Pian) and Rs} . offtake trends and other related factors. 93.00 lakhs (Non-Plan) was provided to the provided to the Deemed to be University .. [ Translation] The Vidya(non-Plan) was provided to the Deemed to be University. The Vidyapeeth is University Statu. to Lal Bhadur competent to award the degrees of Shastri, Sanskrit Vldyapeeth Acharya. Vidya Varidhi, Vachaspatl, Shiksha Shastri, Shiksha Acharya. 7279. SHRI CHINMA YAN AND SWAM I: Will the Minister of HUMAN (e) The total amount spent so far Is RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased about As. 113,751akhs. to state:

(a) whether status of a university has [£ngUsh] been accorded to Shri Lal Bahadur Shastri Kendriya Sanskrit Vldyapeeth; New Rail Lines In Kerala

(b) whether any other institution in the 7280. SHRITHAYILJOHNANJALOSf,: name of Shri Lal Bahdur Shastri Kendriya Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Sanskrit Vidyapeeth, New Delhi is also in to state: existence;

(c) if so, whether both of t~ese (a) the names of routes where survey institutions .are functioning with the has been conducted to lay new railway lines 129 Written AnswetS VAISAKHA 1,1914~SAKA) Written Answers 130 In Kerala during the last thf88 years and the (e) the time by which funds are Ukelyto current year; and be l8leased; and

(b) the estimated cost of each of those (f)theprograssmadeforthecorJl)letlon projects? of the project?

"'-41 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF HUMAN • MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): (a) NIL. However, a ARJUN SINGH): (a) The then Prime MinISter reconnaissance Englneerfng-cum-Traffic laid the foundation stone of Or. B.R. Survey for a new BG rail Una from NUambur Ambedkar Centre for Biomedical Research Road to Feroke via Uanjeri and mavoor (65 In Deihl University on 31-3-1991. km) has been included In the budget for 1992-93 and will be taken up during the (b) to (f). No allocation for the project year. has so far been made. The matter Is under consideration of GovemlTl8nl (b) Approx. Rs. 65 crores for construction .. [ Translation]

Baba Ambedkar Centnt for Blomedlcel Ayurvedlc InstHution. Research 7282. SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Will 7281. SHRIUAll SAROJ DUBEY: the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY SHRI RAM PRASAD WELFARE be pleased to state: SINGH: SHRI RAM . VILAS PASWAN: (a) whether two Ayurvedic Institutions of Government of India are functioning In Will the Minister of HUMAN the premise of National Ayurvadic Institute RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased Jaipur in PseudQnyms; to state:

(a) whether the Prime Minister laid the (b) If so, the reasons therefor; and ..foundation stona of Dr. B.A. Ambedkar Centre for Biomedical Research in Deihl (c) sJncewhenthe above two institutions University to commemorate Baba Saheb's arefundionlng ai'lddetails of their functions? birth centenary;

(b) if so, the Central allocation made THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE therefor; . MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARA DEVI SIOHARTHA): (a) to· (c).No Ayurvedlc ...... (c) the details of amount released so far institutions in pseudonyms are functioning for the Centre; In the premISes of National Institute of Ayurveda, Jaipur. However, some units of the Central CouncHforResearch InAyul'V8da (d) if not, the reasons for not releasing and Slddha are located in the campus of the the allocated funds; National Institute of Ayurved. 131 Wdtten Answen; APRl.21, 1992 Written Answets 132 (Englsh) Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVElOPMENT be pleased to state: Offer fram WHO for Family Planning Programme (a) whether Operation Black Board scheme Is not being Introduced in all the 7283. SHRI KOOIKKUNNL SURESH: districts of Bihar; . WII the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMLY WELFARE be pleased to stale: (b) If so, the reasons therefor;

(a) whether the Govemment have (c) the targets fixed for Bihar during the racelved any offer from the World Heatth last year district-wise and the amount Organisation for effectively conducting the .earmarked in this regard; and Family Planning Programme in India; and .(d) the extent to which these targets (b) if so, the details thereof? have been achieved during the last year?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF HUMAN MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY RESOURCE DEVelOPMENT (SHRI WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARA DEVI ARJUN SINGH): (a) It is Intended to cover SIDHARTHA): (a) and (b). No specific offer all the primary schools existing as on 30.9. has been received from the World Health 1986 in all the districts of Bihar. Organisation for effectively conducting the Family Planning Programme In India. Howover, WHO has been assisting various (b) Does not arise. projects in the field of Family Welfare on a continuing basis. During WHO biennium 1990-91, an amount of S 2, 638, 200 was (c) and (d). No Year-wise or district- earmarked for various Family Welfare wise targets are fixed, the phasing of the Projects. scherneciepends uponthepac:e and capacity of implementation of the State Govts. So far (Ttanslation] two phases in 1987-88 and 1988-89 cofTl)lislng 24754 schools falling in aU the Operation Black Board In Bihar districts of the State have been sanctioned to Bihar. The IfT1)Iementation and utilisation 7284. SHRI LAl BABU RAI; WHI the of funds as reported are given as under: •

(i) ·Equipment:

Amount UIiIsed

As. 17,29,24,000 Rs.l, 96, 08,000 (11.33%) Oil Teachers

No. of posts sanctioned No. of teachers appointed

8418 8418 (100%) 133 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKAl Written Answers 134

Amount sanctioned Amount utilised

(iii) Construction

No. 01 Class rooms required to No. 01 class rooms be constructed. constructed.

27526 13584 (49,34%)

[English] outstat,on rel

7285. KUMARI FRIDA TOPNO: Will (e) whether any case of mis- the Minister 01 RAILWAYS be pleased to manalJement and irregularity in providing state: r'~ :;r."'; to the relatives of the patients have ..., "'),:ce of the Government; and (a) whether the Government have any proposalto construct railway line connecting (d) if so, the ~tcps taken by Ihe Talcherand Bimlagarh in orissa during 1992- Government in thiS regar'd? 93; and THE. MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) il so, the details Ihereof and if not, MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY the reasons therefor? WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA) (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE !N THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS· (SHRI (b) There are six halls and three rooms MALLIKARJUN): (a) No, Sir. in the Dharmsha!a.

(b) Constraint 01 resourceS. (c) No, S;r.

[ Translation] (d) Does not arise.

Dharamshala for Relatives of Patients Coach Factory at Kapurthala In Delhi 72S7 SHRI JAGMEET SINGH SRAR: 7286. SHRI B.L. SHARMA PREM: W:lI Wi!1 the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased the Minister of HEALTH AND FAI.1IL Y to st~!c: WELFARE be pleased to stale:

(:-t) tho ;:n~ual copacity of the coach (a) whether a Dh:lrmashala il::ls been f::C\:;fY al f(QPl:rtll

1990-91 60% [ Translation)

1991-92 91.5% Maintenance of Historical Places

(b) Yes Sir, 7289. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (c) Indian Railways have sinca tendered DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: for acquisition of 27 coaches of modern design along with transfer of technology for (a) the historical places in Budelhand local manufacture. area of U.P. and Madhya Pradesh being maintained by the Archaeological Survey of [English] India;

Filling up of Reserved Vacancies (b) whether there is any scheme under consideration to develop the memorial 7288 SHRISOMJIBHAIDAMOR: places of Maharani Laxmibai i'n Orcha, SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR Oeogrh and Jhansi; SHASTRI: SHRI BAPU HARI (c) Hso, the details thereof; CHAURE: (d) whether some area of the land WUI the Minister of RAILWAYS be around the fort of Maharani Laxmibal in pleased to state: Jhanslls under illegal possession; and

(a) whether the Government had (e) Hso, the details thereof and action decided to fill the back-log of reserved taken by the Government to get the said vacancies before 31 March, 1992; land vacated by Illegal occupations?

(b) the actual number of back·log of THE MINISTER OF HUMAN such vacancies in each group zone· RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI wise; ARJUN SINGH): (a) A list of Centrally 137 Written AnswetS VAiSAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Wdlten Answers 138 protected monumenWsltes In Bundelkhand attended to as per the requirements. area of Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh being maintained by Archaeological Survey (d) Yes, Sir. of India is given In attached. Statement (e) the area has been illegally occupied by private Individuals by constructing (b) and (c). Only the fort and palace 0' Wooden Stalls, Tin Sheds etc. The mater Rani Laxmibai at Jhansi are under Central has iliready been taken up with the District protection. The work of their repairs and Magistrate, Jhansl for getting the maintenance including development is being encroachment removed. 139 Written Answers APRI.21,1992 Writtsn AnswelS 140

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7290. SHRI KRISHNA OUTT (b). No, Sir. SULTANPURI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Cc) Does not arise.

(a) whether there is a proposal to lay a (d) on the basis of the survey report h railway line between Kalka and Amrltsar, was found that any benefit from this line and could only be derived after the Karur- Dlndigul-Madurai-Manlyachchl-Tuticorinl . ill) if so, the details thereof? Talalyuthu project is completed, as such h would be considered after completion of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE above project, subject to availability of MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI resources. MALLIKARJUN): (a) No, Sir, Survey for new line from, Chandigarh to Ludhiana revealed Quality Conttol of Eatable. In Hotel. inadequate traffic prospects. Updating of survey for another link between Rajpur and 7292. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR Chandigarh, which will provide a direct link SHASTRI: Will the MinlsterofHEALTHAND between Amritsarand Kalka, has been taken FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: up. (a)thenumberoffoodsmaplescollected (b) Depends on resuhs of the survey forchemicalanalyslsfromtheflve-starhol8ls, and availability of resources in the coming Railway caterers, other hotels and years. restaurants during each of the last three years in Delhi; . Salem-Karur Railway link In Tamil Nadu (b) the outcome of the analysis and the action taken thereon; and 7291. DR. SHRIMATI K.S. SOUNDARAM: Will the Minister of (c) the steps tal

(c) if so, the reasons for not starting the STATEMENT work on the project; and The number of food samples lifted by (d) if not, the reasons therefor, the Department of Prevention of Food 179 WrlIten AnsMn APRL 21, 1992 Wdbn Answers 180 Adulteration, Delhi AdmInistration from five In the Court of Law under th8 Prevention of Star HoUes, other Hotels and Restaurants Food Adulteration ~ules. for chemical analysis. and the number of samples found adulterated during the last To maintain the quality of food articles, thl'88 years Is as under: samples 81'8 lifted and tested under the Prevention of Food 4ciulteration Act, 1954 Year No. of No. of sarrpes and the Rules made there under and sanples found necessary action is taken against the lifted adulterated defaulters accordingly.

1989 118 16 STATEMENT-II

1990 16 The number of food samples collected 1991 52 7 by the Railway authorities from the railway establishment and Caterers in Delhi for chemical analysis during the last three years In cases where the samples were found and the out-corne of the analysis of the adulterated, procesution has been launched samples is as under:-

Year Under the Prevention Under Quality Control of food Adulteration for Departmsntal check Act, 1954

No. of samples No. of No. of No. of samples collected salTples SalTples found found collected sub-standard adulterated

1989 137 02 338 14

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In cases where the samples are found educated from time to time regarding adulterated under the Prevention of Food handling and serving offoodto pass~nge!"S. Adulteration Act, prosecution is launched in Inspections to ensure hygienic conditions of the court of law. Departmental action is stores andfood premises are done regularly. taken in cases where the semples are found sub-standard under Quality Control for [Translation) Departmental; check. Vasal-Dlva Railway Line Frequent samples are being lifted under Quality Control for Departmental check as 7293. SHRI YASHWANTRAO PATIL: well as under the Prevention of Food Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Adulteration Act. Vendors are being to state: .181 Written Anstvers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 182 (a) whether the construction work of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Vasai-Oiva railway line has been completed; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS .(S_HRI MALLIKARJUN): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) whether no passenger train or local train has been introduced on this line so far; (b) The Committee has since submitted its report which has been accepted. As per (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and this report, it has been decided that the alignment proposed by the Konkan Railway (d) the time by which. the local trains are Corporation and approved by the Goa State proposed to be introduced on this line? Govemment should be adopted except in the case of 13 km length between Margao THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Balli where it bisects the villages of MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Navelim, Dramapur, Salzona and Cuncollm. MALLlKARJUN): (a) This work was The alignment for this section from Margao completed in 1982-83. to Balli will be shifted eastwards along the loot hills even though it would involve (b) to (d). Fourpairs of express(weekly) construction of two tunnels and is slightly trains are already running via Diva-Vasai longer in length. The work is being Road. Introduction of local passenger progressed accordingly. carrying train~ on Diva-Vasai Road section is presently not feasible due to lack of Grain storage programme In Kerala infrastructure facilities and very heavy movement of goods traffic on this section. 7295. SHRIV.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: Will the Minister of FOOD be pleased to [English] state: . -

Monuments Endangered Due to (a) whether the· Union Govemment Konkan Project propose to implement an intensive grain storage programme in Kerala; and 7294. SHRI RABI RAY: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof?

(a) whether the Government has THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE appointed any commission to look into the MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI TARUN complaints about endangering 01 historical GOGOI): (a) and (b). AsaveGrainCatTl>aign monuments on account 01 construction of Unit funcsioning at Trivandrum is already the Knokan railway line passing through implementing programmes to educate the 30a;and farmers in Kerala to adopt scientific practices for foodgrain storage. The details of the (b) if so, the details and outcome programmes and the results achieved so far thereof? are given in the statement annexed. 183 Written AilswelS APRIL 21, 1992 Written Answers-184

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7296. SHRI MUHIRAM SAIKIA: THE MINISTER OF HUMAN DR. LAXMINARA YAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI PANDEYA: ARJUN SINGH): (a) and (b). The Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan has set up four sports Will the Minister of HUMAN hostels in Kendriya Vidyalayas for nurturing RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased talented players through specialised to state: coaching. The Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangthan provides a grant for meeting expenditure on (a) whether the Ker:driya Vidyalaya board and lodging,sports equipment and Sangathan have set up some Sports Hostels; special nutritious dies. and The details of games and sports are as (::J) if so, the details thereof alongwith under:

51. No. Name of Hostel Sport

1. KV No.1 Gwalior Athletics and Football

2. KV Kirkee, Pune Hockey

3. KV No.' Delhi Cantt. Cricket

4. KV liT Madras VoUey Ball and Basket Ball.

Opening of Kendriya Vidyalayaa (c) the reaction of the Governemnt Abroad thereto?

7297. DR. SUDHIR RAY: DR. LAXMINARAYAN THE MINISTER OF HUMAN PANDEYA: RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH): (a) and (b). No, Sir. The Will the Minister of HUMAN Ambassador of India, Kathmandu, sent a RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased letter in June 1991 regarding the opening of to state: a Kendriya Vielyala ya at Pokhara (Nepal) forthe children of India based staff, but this (a) whether a numberof Indian Foreign has not yet been supported by the requisite Missions abroad have requested Kendriya proposal of the Ministry of External Affairs. Vidyalaya Sangathan to open Kendriya Vidyalayas there; (c) There.is no decision at present to (b) if so, t~e details thereof; and open any more Kendriya Vidyalayas abroad. 189 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 ($AKA) Wrllten Answers 190 Bogus Doctors Will the Minister of FOOD be pleased to state: 7298. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will the Minister of HEAlTH AND FAMILY (a) whetherthe State Governemnts are WELFARE be pleased to state: to bear the loss due to unilateral decision of the Union Govemment in increasing the , .. ia) whether cases of many doctors price of ration foodgrains; and practising with bogus medical qualifications have come to the notice of Governemnt (b) If so, the steps proposed to during the last one year; compensate the losses to State Governemnts? (b) if so, the details thereof, State-wise; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI T ARUN (c) the steps taken by the Government GOGOI): (a) Increases in the Central isue • ,,~gainst the doctors? prices of wheat and rice are necessitated from time to time consequent upon revision THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in support prices of wheat and paddy. Such MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY increases in Central issue prices only WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARADEVI partically absorb increased procurement cost SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (c). Penal Provisions d~e to increases in support prices of wheat already exist in the Indian Medical Council and paddy and Central Government bears Act, 1956; in the Indian Medicine Central a huge food subsidy in this regard. End retail Council Act, 1970, and in Homoeopathy prices are fixed by the State Governments . Central Council Act, 1973 to the effect that themselves taking into account commission, ..... no person other than a medical practitioner distributionltransportation charges, etc. As enrolled on the State Medical Register shall State Governments usually revise the end practise medicine in any State and any retail prices consequent upon increase in person contravening this provision shall be Central issue price, the question of loss to punishable with imprisonment for a term State Government does not arise. which may extend to one year or with fine which may extend to Rs. 1000 or both. (b) Does not arise

Complaints of practice by unqualified Treatment In Naturopathy "11 medical practitioners are receivedfromtime to time. These are sent to the concerned 7300. SHRI PALAS BARMAN: Will the authorities of the State GovernmentslUnion Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Territories for necessary action under the WELFARE be pleased to state: Law. (a) whether Government propose to The Govemment of India have also encourage treatment by naturoppthic advised the State Governments/Union doctors; .... ,., Territories to invoke the penal provisions to check practice by unqualified practitioners. (b) If so, the details thereof;

Loss to States for Increasing Price of (c) the amount allocated for re~arch Ration Foodgralns and development progranvne in naturopathy 7299. SHRI K. MURALEE DHARAN: during the current five year plan; 191 Written Answers AffiR. 2T, lW.l· (cI) whethertheGovemmentemployees have encouraged treatment through and their dependents receiving treatment In naturop;lthy doctQrs by setting up of the naturopathy In different Centres are eligible Central CouneR for Research in Yoga and for reimbursement of treatment charges; Naturopathy which gieves grants to Yoga and and Naturopathy institutions and ~!.reby encourages these systems • (e) if not, whetherGovemment propose . to provide this facility? A National Institute of Naturopathy was . also established at Pune in 1986 with the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE object of promoting Naturopathy. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARADEVI (c) Allocations for the VIII Five Year SIDDHARTHA): (a) Ye$, Sir. Plan have not yet been finalised. However, , during 1992-93 the following allocations have (b) Ministryof Health and FamilyWeHare been made.

Plan Non-Plan

(Rs. in lakhs)

Central Council for Research in Yogh and 25.00 6.80 Naturopathy

National Institute of Naturopathy 10.00

(d) and (e). Reimbursement has been Govemment to bring suitable Legislation in allowed to the Govemment Servants and this regard; and their dependents when the treatment has been taken fror:n Naturopathy Centres on (d) the amount earmarked in this regard the recommendation of Adviser (Indian during 1992-93? Systems of Medicines). THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Independent Council for MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Physiotherapists WELFARE (SHRIMATt OK THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA): (a) No, Sir. 7301. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (b) The question does not arise. WELFARE be pleased refer to the reply (c) The proposal to bring a suitable given to Unstarred Question No. 2226 on legislation on the subject is under process. August 22, 1990 and to state: (d) No funds have been earmarked during 1992-93. (a) whether Government have abandoned the scheme to set up a separate {English) Council for Physiotherapists and Occupational Therapists with separate cells; Post-Graduate Allowances to Doctors In Indian System of Medicine 7303. SHRI ROSHAN LAL: Will the (b) if so, the reasons therefor; Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Cc) if not, action taken so far by the WELFARE be pleased to state: 193W111tenAnswls VAISAKHA 1,1914(SAKA} WtitlenAnswers 194 (a) the total number of post-graduate (c) and (d) Four Ayurvedic Physicians doctors in Indian Systems of Medicine are WOIfdng as specialists and they are not including Unan! Physicians working under entitled for post-graduation Allowance. ~ C.G.H.S.; Railway Projects In OrIssa (b) whether such doctors get post- graduate allowances; 73Q4. SHRISRIKANTAJENA; WtU the Minister of RAIlWAYS be pleased to lltate: (c) if so, whether some doctors possessing 'post-graduate' quaDration do (a) the names of the on-golng-railway not get such allowances; and projects in OrIssa; and

(d) if so, the reasons therefor? (b) the funds allocated during last thrae THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE years, the progress made so far and the MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY target date of completion In case of each WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARA DEVI project? Si"''JHARTHA): (a) the total number of Ayurvedic Physician including Unani Physician with post-graduate qualification is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 16. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS {SHRI MAllIKARJUN}: (a) and (b). The information .~ (b) Yes, Sir. is as under:

S. Nameo! Funds allocated Physical Target No. Project (Rs.in crores) progress dalBof ofwodc conplelion lipiD

1989-90 1990-91 1991-92 Dec'91 ',.

1. Koraput 75.00 70.00 36.00 90% 30.6.92 Rayagada (164 km)

2. Talcher 10.00 25.00 20.00 25% 31.3.95 Sambalpur (172 km.) IJ

[ Ttans/ation) Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WElFARE be pleased to state: Population growth In Bihar

7305. SHRllAllT ORAON: (a) the extent of fa. registered in the SHRI RAMDEW RAM: rate of population growth in Bihar; 195 Written Answers APHIL 21, 1992' Written Answers 196 (b) the amount spent each year on (Provisional) in 1990, Birth Rate has declined implementation of Family Welfare from 36.6 per thousand population in 1987 Programme by the UnlonGovemmentduring to 32.9 (Provisional) in 1990 and percentage the lastthree years and the outcome thereof; of the eligible couples estimated to be (c) the percentage ofthe result achieved practicing contraception having risen from in proportion to the target fixed therefor; 20.6ason31stMarch,1987t026.30n31st (d) whether the result achieved was March, 1990. satisfactory as per the target fixed therefor; (e) if not, the reasons therefor; and (c) and (d). A statement giving targets (f) the steps being taken by the Union and percentage achievements thereof in Government to obtain satisfactory results? respect of various family planning "!etbods . and Matemal and Child Health Care activities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE during 1989-90, 1990-91 and 1991-92 so MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY far reported by the State of Bihar is given in WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARA DEVI the annexure. SIDDHARTHA): (a) Based on decennial censuses, the decadal growth rate of (e) The Family WeHare programme in population in Bihar has deClined by 0.57 India is being promoted on a voluntary basis percentage point i.e. from 24.06 percent in in keeping with the democratic traditions of 1971-81 to 23.49 percent in 1981·91. the country. However, the performance under the Programme, inter-alia, depends (b) The amount of assistance released upon, development of Infrastructure facilities, to the Government of Bihar both in cash and positioning of manpower, administrative kind for the implementation of the Family ethos including supervision, provision of WeHare programme during the last three services and its qualities. years is as follows; (f) to impart a new dynamism to the Year Amount (Rupees in Jakhs) Family Welfare Programme, an Action Plan (both in cash and in kind) has already been evolved by the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare and is being 1989-90 3834.15 operationalised. The has been endorsed by the Health and Family Welfare Ministers of 1990-91 4994.94 the States and Union Territories in January, 1992. The Action Plan highlights thOe °need 1991-92 5398.64 for evolving a national consenses in support of the Family Welfare Programme and to Appreciable success has been achieved obtain whtwilling participation of all sections in building a wide net work of health and of the society. hs key features include, Family Welfare infrastructure in the State improving the quality and outreach 01 family and launching an integrated Maternal and welfare services, differential strategy for Child Health Care (MCH) programme special focus on 90 poor performing including the Universal Immunisation district(Birth rate of 39 per thousand Programme (UIP). As a result of population and above as per the 1981 implementation of the Family Welfare Census), developing a mechanism to make programme in the State of Bihar infant available funds to States/Unlon Territories Mortality Rate has declined from 101 per on the basis of reduction of actual birth rate, thousand live births in 1987 to 75 increasing the coverage of younger age 197 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 198 couples through vigorous promotion of quality of life issues and inter-personal spacing methods, introducing new communication, involving voluntary and non- contraceptives asnd improving the quality governmental organisations in a big way to of contraceptives, strengthening family promote active community participation in welfare schemes in urban areas espeCially the programme, grearing up althe In slum pockets, revilalising training activities implementation machinery in the States! of medical/para-medical personnel with Union Territories and evolving high level emphasis on motivational and counselling inter-sectoral coordination mechanisms at aspects, sustaining the good work done the national State and district levels. under the Universal Immunisation Programme and strengthening of other interventions for Meternal and Child health All the Stales/Union Territories, Care, reorientation of information, education including Bihar have been asked to and communication efforts to focus on the opearationalise the Action Pian.

201 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1.1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 202

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II: Z 205 Wrllten Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Wrllten Answers 20tl (English) Honble Member Is referring to Issue of Complimentary card Passes. Such Passes Chalrcar Coach •• to Utkal-Kalinga are issued based on the existing guidelinesl Expresses merits of each case, which broadly cover eminent persons, organisations devoted to 7306. KUMARI PUSHPADEVI SINGH: social cuHural, scientific, literary, sports and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased educational activities of all India character to state: etc.

(a) whether the demand for attaching (b) during 1991, 44406 Carll Passes chaircarcoaches on NZM-Delhi -Puri bound available by 1st ClassJAC Sleeper W&io Utkal-Kalinga Expresses has been pending issued. since long; and (c) and (d). All India card Passes (b) if so, the steps taken by the available by 1st class/AC Sleeper, with an Government in this regard? Attendant in lind class, are issued to ex- MPs. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (e) The cost of passes issued to MALLIKARJUN): (a) No. Sir. Freedom Fighters is borne by Ministry of Home Affairs. As regards the cost of passes (b) Does not arise. referred te> in (a) and (c). above, it is not feasible to compute the value realistically in Free Railway Passes the absence 01 data regarding actual journeys that may be performed etc. 7307. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will the Minister 01 RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Exploitation of Vitamin 'A' In Alga. to Control Blindness (a) the categories of persons to whom free rail passes are issued by his Ministry; 7308. SHRISANATKUMAR MANDAl: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (b) the number of freedom fighters WELFARE be pleased to state: whom free rail passes have been issued and the class in which they are entitled to (a) whether any studies have been travel; made by his Ministry or any Research Institute under the control about the (c) whether it is proposed to issue free exploitation of Vitamin 'A' discovered in rail travel passes to ex-Members of algae for various Health progremmes;- Parliament also; (b) if so, the details and the outcome (d) if so, the dtltails in this regard; and thereof ;and

(e) the total cost the Railways have to (c) how it is proposed to be utilised it as bear on that account during 1992-931 a recipe to prevent blindness particularly in children in India? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS '(SHRI MALlIKARJUN): (a)· Presumably, Ihe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 207 Wdtl8IJ Answets APRL 21, 1992 WdtIsn AnsMJIS 208 MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAM1L Y estimated cost 1heraof; and WELFARE (SHRIMATI 0.1(, THARA DEVI SIDHARTHA): (a) to (c). Yes Sir, National (c) whethert" UnIon Govemment have Institute of Nutrition, Hyderabad have studied the experiment from the point of conducted stucfl8S to test the efficacy of view of enrolment and dropout rate and sent algae named Spirutlna FuslotmJS. It has any guidelines to other Sates/Union been fOUnd to be a good source of Vitanin territories? w. The Institute has developed a nq,e using my-powder of Spirulina which can be THE MINISTER OF HUMAN . uAd in various supplementary feeding RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI programmes. ARJUNSlNGH):(a)and(b).Govemmentof india is nol ~mentlng any such scheme. Free education In State. A Statement, on the basis of 5th All India Educational Survey conducted by the 7309. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: National Council for Educational Research Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE and Training with reference to the date of DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 30th September, 1986, is attached.

(a) the names of States which have Ccl. The relevance of nutrition introduced free supply of text books, school intervention enrolmerH and retention children uniforms and mid-day meals for all students in schools and also to Improvement in their at the primary levels, with our without schools performance has been broadly subjecting it an economic criterion; indicated, though it has not been established in conclusive or absolute terms. No (b) the number of primary school guideHnes have been sent to the states! students covered during 1991-92 and "the Union Territories. VAI.:tAN1A 1, ll114 (:.AM) WdttBn MswetS 210

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RAILWAYS NO. OF COACHES

Central 556

Eastern 583

Northern 1566

North-East 574

North-Frontier 283

Southern 878

South-Central 593

South-Eastern 530

Western 727

Total 6290

(b) and (c). Therequiramentofwagons Rail Unk From Barpeta Road to in the Eighth Five Year Plan (1992-97), to Barpeta Town meet the anticipated demand for rail transport in the tenninal year of the Five 7311. SHRI UDDHAB BARMAN: Will Year Plan has been estimated at 1,50,000 the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Wagons. Acquisition wiD be programmed state: everyyeardepending ontha plan allocation. Wagons acquired wDl be aUotted to differant (a) whether any survey was conducted . Zones on a year to year basis. for construction of railway line from Barpeta · 217 Wriffen AnswelS VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written AnSW81S 218 Road to Barpeta Town; and attempted the question.

(b) if so, the details of the survey and [ TlaIlslation] the outcome thereof? Rep,.sentatlon of Women In National THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Comml ..lon for Women MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALlIJ;

(b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS (c) the reaction of the Government AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD thereto; and DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (d) the remedial steps taken by the (KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE): (a) No. Government in this regard? Sir.

THE MINISTER OF HUMAN (b) Does not arise. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. Tanakpur-Bageshwar Railway Line

(b) According to the information received 7314. SHRI ,JEEWAN SHARMA: Will from the Central Board Of .... econdary the Ministe. of RAILWAYS be pleased to Education (CBSE). only one of the two state: questions mentioned in the news item, i.e. Question NO.1 in Set No. IV of Class XII (a) the to:al amount s?p.nt so far ont._he Mathematics paper of the CESE conducted survey being conducted tf~r tile Tanakplfr- '*I examination carrying two marks was found Bageshwar railway line in. Uttar Pradest~ wrong. (b) the salient feat",;:· at the survey (c) and (d). The CasE has decided to C'.onduct6d so far; and compensate the students for the wrong question by awardin" full credit oftwo marks (c) the time bywhic:h ;;1> s,;'Vey Is likely to all candidates whether or not they have to bee complaled? 219 Written AnSWBrs APRIL 21. 1992 Written Answers 220

JHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the development of a machine I Electro MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Respiration Accelerator' by the Medical MALLIKARJUN): (a) Rs. 28 lakhs scientists. approximately. Khandwa and Burhanpur Stations (b) The survey has since been ~mpleted. The survey report revealed that 7316. SHRI MAHENDRA KUMAR construction of 154.58 kms. long M.G. line SINGH THAKUR; Will the Minister of between Tanakpur Ghat-Bageshwar is RAILWAYS be pleased to state: estimated to cost Rs. 660 crores at 1990-91 price level. with a negative rate of return. (a) whether passenger amenities are inadequate at Khandwa and Burhanpur (c) Does not arise. Stations on Central Railway;

Electro Respiration Accelerator (b) the amount spent on the Machine For Asthama Patients maintenance of the said Stations during gach of the last three years; 7315. SHRI BHUWAN CHANDRA KHANDURI: Will the Minister of HEALTH (c) the details olthe amenitie~ provided; AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to and state: (d) the time by which close circuit T.V. (a) whether Medical scientists have Is likely to be provided at those stations? developed a machine known as ' Electro Respiration Accelerator' in the counl~ or THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE abroad for the asthma Patients; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof; (b) Railways do not keep stationwise (c) whether Government have made details of expenditure on maintenence. arrangements for its use or formulated any scheme to make it popular; and (c) A statement is attached.

(d) if so, the details thereof including the hospitals where arrangements forthis device (d) There was no response wilen tenders has been made? were invited for CCTV at Khandwa Station. Due to no party coming forward to operate the CCTV at Khandwa station despite THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE invitation of tenders through press publicity MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY and traffic at Burhanpur Station being WELFARE (SHRIMATI DK THARA DEVI inadequate to attract CCTV operators, SIDHARTHA): (a) to (d). The Ministry of provision of CCTV at these stations is not Health and Family Welfare is not aware of feasible at present. 221 Wrllten Answers VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Wrllten AnswBrs 222

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Indo-Soviet Medical Education Care 7320. SHRI SHANKERSINH and Research Foundation VAG HE LA: Will the Minister of HEALTH' AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to 7319. SHRI SURESHANAND state: SWAMI: SHRIMATI GEETA (a) whether the Government have laid MUKHERJEE: down some guidelines or propose to introduce legislation imposing ceiling on Will the Minister of HEALTH AND charging of consultation fee, pathological FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: tests fee and diagnostic tests fee by the private medical care centres; and (a) whether Government are aware of the existence of 'Indo-Soviet Medical (b) if not, the measures taken. by the Education Care and Research Foundation" Government to curb exploitation of masses by these private medical care centres? (b) if so, the details thereof;

(c) whether it is alleged that the said THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE foundation has helped students to secure MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY admisssion in erstwhile Soviet Union on WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARA bEVI payment of huge charges; SIDHARTHA): (a) and (b). No guildelines have been laid ddWn by the Government (d) if so, the details thereof; imposing ceilings on charging of various fees by the private medical care centres. (e) whether any case of financial However, Delhi Administration have irregularity committed by the said foundation proposed amendment of the Delhi Nursing has come to the notice of the Government; Homes Rules; 1966 which, intel alia, provides and for display of list of charges levied by the Nursing Homes for various services offered (f) if so, the details thereof and the by them. steps taken by the Government in this regard? Devdasl System

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7321 SHRIMATI DIPIKA H. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY TOPIWALA: 229 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 230 PROF. SHRIMATI RITA (b) whether the government propose VERMA: allow private institutions to run Navodaya school; and Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased (c) if so, when it Is likely to be to state: implemented?

(a) whether the practice of Devdasi THE MINISTER OF HUMAN system is still continuing in various parts of RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT -(SHRI the country; ARJUN SINGH): (a) The State Government of Tamil Nadu has not made the necessary (b) if so, the details thereof; and propos Is for establishment of N3vodaya Vidyalayas. (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken by the Government to eradicate this (b) There is no such decision as yet. evil and rehabilitate them? (c) Does not arise. THE MINI3TER OF STATE OF (THE DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS Diversion of Forest lands AND SPORTS AND WOEMENAND CHILD DEVELOPMENT) IN THE MINISTRY OF 7323. SHRIMATI KRISHNENDRA HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT KAUR (DEEPA): Will the Minister of (KUMARI MAMATABANERJEE): (a) to (c). ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be Information is being collected and will be laid pleased to state: on the table of the House. the total hectares of fOiest land diverted Navodaya Vidyalayas In Tamil Nadu for non-forest purposes under the provision olthe Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980 during 7322. SHRI K. THULASIAH the Seventh Plan, State-wise? VANDAYAR: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (a) the reasons for not starting Navodya FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) A school in any district of Tamil Nadu; statement is attached.

STATEMENT

S.No. Name of StatelUT Forest land diverted (in hectares)

1. Andhra Pradesh 15373.89

2. Assam 171.22

3. Bihar 1349.24

4. Goa 11.00 231 Wrinen AnswelS APRIL 21.1992 Wl1tten Answers 232

S.No. Name of State!UT Forest land dIvertBd (in Mctares)

5. Gujarat 5116.86

6. Haryana 345.23

7. Himachal Pradesh 1723.15

8. Jammu & Kashmir 708.52

9. Karnataka 9336.36

10, Kerala 237.49

11. Madhya Pradesh 86794.27

12. Maharashtra 14540.21

13. Manipur 243.72

14. Meghalaya 1.30

15. Mizoram

16. Nagaland t 17. Orissa 8864.49

18. Punjab 20.67

19. Rajasthan 1940.03

20. Sikkim 174.82

21. Tamil Nadu 433.76

22. Tripura 12.48

23. Uttar Pradesh 17662.46

24. West Bengal 446.89

25. A & N Islands 1938.79 233 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1.1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 234

S. No. Name of StatelUT Forest land diverted (in hectares)

26. Dadra. Nagar Haveli

27. Arunachal Pradesh 59.30

Total 167506.27

\ Double Decker Coach Between RaJkot Will the Minister 01 HEALTH AND FAMILY and Bombay WELFARE be pleased to state:

(a) the numberol medical Store Depots 7324. SHRI AVTAR SINGH in the country; BHADANA: SHRI SHIVLAL NAGAJI- (b) whether there is any proposal to BHAI VEKARIA: open more medical Store Depots in the country; and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details thereof?

(a) whether Western Railway's have recently discontinued attachment of Double THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DeckerCoach with Saurashtra Mail between MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Rajkot and Bombay; WELFARE (SHRIMATI O.K. THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA): (a) There are seven medical (b) il so, the reasons therelor; and Store Depots Located at Bombay, Calcutta, Guwahatl. Hayderabad, Kamal, Madras and (c) how this reduction in number 01 New Delhi. available st;;'ats is going to be augmented? (b) At present, there is no such proposal. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (c) Does not arise. MALLIKARJUN): (a) to (c). One Double Decker Coach (24 Volt) on Saurashtra Mail Sale of Breast Milk Substitutes By has been replaced by a Second Class coach Multi-national Companies because the train now runs with a1l11 0 Volt higher electricity system coaches lor better 7326. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the Minister functioning of fans and lights. Augmentation of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be 01 this train is not feasible because it runs pleased to state: with maximum numberof coaches between 'Dadar and Ahmadabad. (a) whether the Multi·National companies sell breast milk substitutes which Medical Store Depots flout accepted codes;

7325. SHRI ANANTRAO DESHMUKH: (b) if so, the names of these Multi- ~s Written Answers APRil 21, 1992 Wdtten Answel3 236 national CO"l>anies and the brand names now covered under the Universal of their products; and Immunization Programme.

(c) the remedial; measures taken by the Govemment in this regard? Benefit to Ex-Servicemen under Family Planning

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7326. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAM!LY SINGH: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: SIDDHARTHA): (a) No legal code on marketing of Breast Milk Substitute has (a) whether the ex-servicemen who got been laid down. themselves operated for family planning during their active service are being given its (b) and (c). Do not arise. benefit on their being re-employed;

Immunization Programme In Andhra (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and Pradesh (c) when these personnel are likely to 7327. SHRIGANGADHRASANIPALLI: be given those benefits? Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY (a) the districts in Andhra Pradesh where WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI Centrally sponsored universal immunization SIDDHARTHA): (a) No, Sir. scheme is in force; (b) Tha benefit of a special increment in (b) whether the Government have the form of personal pay not to be absorbed introduced/expanded the said programme in future increases of pay (to emplo-yeas in some other districts in that State; and with threa or less number of children) is given to the defense employees also as in (c) if so, the details thereof? the case of other Central Govt. employees till their superannuation. One being re- employed. the Ex-servicemen are treated THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE as fresh entrants and the benefits already MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY availed of are not given a second time. WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (c). The Universal (c) No such proposal is presently under Immunisation Programme, a 1000/0 Centrally consideration. sponsored Family WeHare Programme. was started in 1985-86, in a phased manner, by Kendrlya Vldyalayas for Handicapped taking 31 districts of the country, out of Children which two distri~ts (i.e. Anantpur and Cuddapah) were from Andhra Pradesh. By 1989-90 all the districts of the country, 7329. SHRIMATI BASAVA including all districts of Andhra Pradesh. RAJESWARI: Will the Minister of HUMAN have been brought under the Programme. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased Thus all the districts of Andhra Pradesh are to state: 237 Written Ans_1S VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written.Answen 238 (a) whether GovernetMt propose to

(b) if SO, the action plan In this regard; (b) If so, details of expenditure incurred and thereon, head-wise during the last one year; and (c) . if not, the time by which a final decision Is likely t be taken In this regard? (c) the details of the number of such patients who have undergone treatment THE MINISTER OF HUMAN there? RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH): (a) No, Sir, Special Education of the handicapped Is not among THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the tasks entrusted to the Kendriya Vidyalaya MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Sangathan. WELFARE (SHRIMATI O.K. THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) and (c). 00 not arise.

[ Translation] (b) The Statement of the details of . expendltureincurredhead-wlsedurlng 1990- National Ayurvedlc Institute. Jaipur 91 is attached.

7330. SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Will (c) The details ofthe number of patients the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY who had undergone the treatment during WELFARE be pleased to state: 1990-91 arelndoor44874,Outdoor391121.

STATEMENT

Part (b)

Expenditure Incurred during Headwise

(Rs; In Lakhs)

S. No. Heads Non-Plan Plan

1. Salary 123.67

2. Overtime 0.01

3. Medical Reimbursement 3.46

4. l.T.C 0.58

5. Pension Fund 8.95 239 Written Answsrs APRIL 21, 1992 Wdlten MsWiln 24J (RI. In Lakhs)

S.No. Heads Non-Plan Plan

6. Stipend & Scholarship 11.74 6.50

7. Wages 0.28

8. Travelling Allowance 0.70

9 . OFFICE EXPENSES

. (I) Electric & Water 0.88 1.18

(iI) Telephone Postage & Telegrams 0.56 0.74

(iii) Books & Periodicals 0.15 0.05

(iv) liveries 0.45 0.15

(v) Stationery & Printing 1.45 0.15

10. Payment of Professional and a special Service

11. Machinery & equipment 0.07 1.63

12. Material supplies 1.10 1.65

13. OTHER CHARGES

(i) Petrol & Maintenance 0.35 0.24

(ii) Advertisement 0.61 0.23

(iii) Repair of Furniture 0.13 0.07

(iv) lab. Drugs & Chemicals 0.43 0.21

(v) Entertainment 0.05 0.01

(vi) Misc. Expenditure 0.51 0.15

(vii) Audit Fee 0.46

(vUi) Maintenance of (Purchase- of Bus Body) 0.09 241 Written AnSW81S VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written AnSW81S 242 (Rs. In Lakhs)

S.No. Heads Non-Plan Plan

14. Publication 0.04

15. library books . 0.10 0.28

16. law Charges 0.35

17. leave Salary & Pension Contribution 1.04

18. Seminar & Conferences 0.02 0.06

19. Raw Drugs & Medici~es 2.41 1.95

20. Hospital contingency 3.83 2.27

21. Festival Advance 0.99

22. Conveyance Advance 2.60

23. House Building Advance 2.58

24. P.A.T, P.G.T., & P.H. D. 0.59

25. Research Work 0.09 0.05

26. Medical Aid to Economically Backward area

(a) Special component 1.73

(b) Special Tribal area 0.42

27. Educational Tour 0.12 0.10

28. Construction work 95.08

29. Student Welfare Activities

30. To introduce the Ecological environmental balance

Grant Total: 171.35 114.99 243 Writt9IJ AnswetS APRIL 21. 1992 Written AnswetS 244 [English). An Indian firm CIPLA win soon be manufacturing and marketing AIr at the Drug for Trutment of Ald. cost of As. 8.00 per capsule.

7331. SHRI R. SURENDER REDDY: [ Translation) Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to Slate: Machines In Govemment Hospital.

(a) whether the Indian Institute of 7332. SHRIB.L. SHARMA PREM: Will Chemical Technology, Hyderabad has the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY developed a low cost drug which prolong the WELFARE be pleased to state: life of AIDS patients; (a) whether several machines are lying (b) if so, the details thereof; and out of order in the hospitals of the Central Govemment In Deihl; (c) the time by which the said drug is likely to be made available in Indian market (b) if so, the hospital-wise number of at cheaper rate? such machines whose prices are more than Rs. SO,OOO/-; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY (c) whether these machines are being WELFARE(SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI repaired; and SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (c). According to information received from Indian Council of (d) if not, the reasons thereof? Medical Research, Indian Institute of Chemical Technology has evolved a technique of manufacturing AIr. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY At the request of Indian Institute of WELFARE (SHRIMATI O.K. THARAOEVI ChemicalTechnology, Government of India SIDDHARTHA): (a) to (d). The number of has waived the 1J5% custom duty on machines costing more than Rs. SO,OOO/- thymidine, a key I intermediate in the which are lying out of order in Central manufacture of AIr. Govememnt hospitals is as under:

. Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia Hospital Eight

Safda~ang Hospital

Lady Hardinge Medical College and Smt. S.K. Hospital One

Out of the above machines, one for their condemnation is being taken. For machine in Dr. Ram ManoharLohia Hospital the remaining machines, necessary action is partially non-functional. Eight out of nine for repair is being taken as perthe prescribed machines in Safdarjang Hospital have procedure. outlived their normal useful life and action- 245 Wlltten AnswelS VAISAKHA 1,"1914 (SAKA) Wrllten AnsWBIS 246 Pollution by Lohla Machines tanneries, 150 have set up primary E1Ps and 8 are under construction. 4 units have 7333. SHRI KESRI LAL: Willthe Minister been closed down. of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (d) Primary ETP has been installed by Lohla Machines which requires some (a) whether the Governent have modification and proper maintenance and assessed the level and hazardness of the operations. However, since the unit has not pollution being caused by the lohia Machines COl1l>lied with the provisions of Section 33 of In Kanpur; the Water Act, 1974, consent for running the unit has been refused by U.P. Pollution (b) If so, the details in this regard and Control Board and prosecution launched the extent the Pandu river and Ganga Canal against the industry. are being polluted by this industry; [Eng/ish] (c) the steps taken by the Government to make the Pandu river and Ganga Canal Modification in RITES as pollution free, and 7334. SHRI V.S. VUAYARAGHAVAN: (d) the action taken by the Government Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased against lohia Machines for not installing to state: pollution controlling equip~nts? (a) whether the Rail India Technical THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Economic Services (RITES) have MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND submitted any recommendations for Its FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) and modification; and (b). Lohia Machines are discharging 0.35 million litre'> per day (mid) of effluents in the (b) if so, the action taken by the river Ganga through Pandu river. Samples Government in this regard? taken by U.P. Pollution Control Board show that the most important constituent of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE effluent Is phosphate which is toxic in nature. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI The percentage of phosphate is higher than MAUIKARJUN): (a) No, Sir. the prescribed standards. Otherconstituents like oil and grease were also found on the (b) Does not arise. higher side. Review Committee of KVS (c) A scheme for pollution abatement of River Ganga has been launched under 7335. DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: Ganga Action Plan. 20 schemes have been SHRI MUHI RAM SAIKIA: taken up in Kanpur under Ganga Action Plan. Out of this, 11 schemes relate to Will the Minister of HUMAN interception, diversion and treatment of RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased domestic sewage. Regarding industrial to state: pollution, there are 21 major industries out of which 16 have Installed effluent treatment (a) whether the Review Committee of plants. 2 ETPs are under construction and the Kendriya Vidyalaya_ Sangathan had ~units--_ have been closed clown. O,..t of 162 submitted its report; . 247 Wlitten AnsW6IJ APRI. 27, "92 (b) It so the details of the nhbhlons lie. and dlstrlbvts onl recommendations made by the Committee; copyeachtoaDteachers. Principals and and officers of the KVS.

(c) the reaction of the Government 4. The Kendriya VidyaJayaSangathan thereto? should follow the three languages formula as given In the National THE MINISTER OF HUMAN Educational Policy. 1168. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH): (a) Yes. Sir. 5. The KVS$hould introduce national testing service and there should (b) Some ofthe main recommendations be a common test at the end of of the Review Committee are described in Class V and VIII. The test should the statement annexed. be conducted at ragionallevel.

(c) The recommendations of the 6. Every student of Secondary Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan Review Classes should be taught Committee were examined by an typewriting and computer Empowered Committee constituted by the operation. Government. The Board of Govemor noted the recommendations of the Review 7. Every student at the Secondary Committee and the observations of the level should be asked to take Empowered Committee and constituted a interest in at least one fine art, i.e. sub-Committee to suggest ways and means drawing, painting, music. etc. of implementation of the Review Committee recommendations keeping in view the 8. Every KV should have a junior suggestions of the Government. Science laboratory for students of Middle classes. STATEMENT 9. Pre-service education of three year Summary of Important Recommenda- duration should be conducted by tions of the Review Committee the KVS at zonal level.

1. Only Hindi. English and Arithmetic 10. Primary Sections should form a may be taught from Class I to III as separate autonomous unit. formal subject and creative art should be taught as an activity. 11. Promotion of primary teachers Whatever knowledge under should be .made by giving them EnvironmentStudies is considered higher scale but not posting them essential should be imported as TGTslPGTs. through language text-books.

2. The KVS should draw up its own 12. The enrolement in Class I should curriculum from Class I to VIII. be 25 per section. The enrolment in Class III should be 30. This class 3. The KVS should bring out a should be a second entry point in teachers' handbook on educational KVs. In class VI, the enrolment surveys, field trips, projects, should be raised to 35 per section, 249 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 250 which should be a third point in Deputy Commisslonerwho should KVs. be assisted by 5 Assistant . Commissioner, out of whom one 13. The Principal of Kendriya Vidyalaya should be exclusively responsible should be responsible forthe entire for supervision of primary schools management of the Vidyalaya and another should be Director of including personnel, financial and the Institute of Education and academic matters. He should be Training having a separate the appointing and disciplinary establishment. authority for ell categories of teachers under him. 20. All Kendriya Viclyalayas should be divided into '5' zones. Each zone 14. The CCS (CCA) Rules should not should be headed by a be applicable to teachers in the Commissioner. He should be KVs. A Committee of senior assisted by one Joint educational administrators and Commissioner who could be the teachers should work out the Director of the Zonal Institute of details of the punishment which Education and Training, and by 3 should be awarded to teachers for Deputy Commissioners. one of various offences. whom should be the Chairman of the Zonal Staff Service 15. No new Kendriya Vidyaiaya should Commission of the KVS , the be opened where minimum second should be incharge of all infrastructural facilities as laid down establishment and service matters by the KVS are not available. including redressal of grievances, and the third should look after 16. The total strength of a Kendriya financial matters. 50% teaching Vidyalaya in all sections frolT. Class staff of every zone should be drawn VI to XII should not exceed 1500. from other zones.

17. The Government should seriously 21. The Sangathan should be headed consider: by full-time Chairman who should be an educationist. He should be (i) whether KVs should be opened in assisted by two Commissioners - places having a meagre popuiation one for academic matters (who of CentralGovernemnt employees; should also be the Director of the Centra. institute of Education and (ii) whether those already opened in Training) ar>e! the other for such places should be handed over adrrllnistra!lor.. to State or converted into Navodaya Vidyalayas. 22. The Sangatnan ::.hcvld .-: have any dflp.;rtm~nl rA inlernal audit. 18. The maximum number of KVs The aC(.'~·um!; (): ,ti; I

(c) Does not arise. 7338. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (d) Constraint of resources. WELFARE be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 763 on Ecologically Devasted Areas February 27, 1991 and state:

7337. SHRI VIJAY NAVAL PATIL: Will (a) whether Government have created the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND the Junior & Senior level posts for FORESTS be pleased to state: Physiotherapists and Occuptional Therapists , in Central Government Hospitals; (a) whetherGovememnt have identified and declared certain ecologically devasted (b) if not, the reasons therefor; areas as Ci :.;cal zones; (c) . whether Government are (b) if so. the details thereof; and contemplating any scheme by which they can be benefited; and (c) the details olthe schemes to improve ecology of those areas? (d) if so. the details thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 253 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Wrllten AnsW8l'S 254 WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARAOEVI Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: SIOOHARTHA): (a) and (b). The proposal for c~eating higher grade p'0sts for (a) whether the Kho-Kho game has physiotherapists and Occupational been included in the activities of Railway Therapists in Central Government Hospitals Sports Control Board; and .. is still under consideration. Due to non- receipt of information from the (b) If so, since when and if not, the representatives of the Association to reasons therefor? Physiotherapists and Occupational Therapists of DeIhl Government Hospitals THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and C.G.H.S, t~ proposal has not yet been MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI finalised. MALUKARJUN): (a) No, Sir.

(c) No, Sir. (b) Due to finanCial, staff and Infrastructural constraints and due to the (d) The question does not arise. need to concentrate on sctlected disciplines for better performance, H is not possible to Aid on Predator-Pray Relationship expand the activities of the Railway Sports Research Project Control Board.

7339. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will Family Planning Programmes the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: 7341. SHRISANATKUMARMANDAL: . SHRI RABI RAY: (a) whether Governemnt have discontinued aid on Predator-prey Will the Minister of HEALTH AND relationship research project in the FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Nagarahole National Park; and (a) whether accordil"lg to the (b) if so, the facts thereof a longwith the researchers at the World Watch Institute, reasons therefor? India's family planning programme has acquired a reputation for inefficiency, grant, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and a chilling el1l>hasis on steriliption rather MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND than access to a wide range of contraceptive FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) A methods; research project entitled 'Ecology and management of large carnivores' is under (b) whether according to the above implementation in the Nagarahole NationaL stUdy, many women in India mistrust family Park, Karnataka. The project is funded by planning programmes and the percentage the United States Government under the of women using birth control remains low Indo-US Rupee Fund Programme. Funding mainly because of their emphasis on of the project has not been discontinued. sterilisation rather than on ·contraception;

(b) Does not arise. (c) if so, the reaction ofthe Govertlment thereto; and Railways Sports Control Board (d) the steps proposed to be taken to 7340. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: W1l1the. remove women's mistrust offamily planning 255 Written Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Wl1lten Answers 256 ',- programmes and make them more effective Improvement In the quality and outreach of and safe? services, are expected to Inspire greater confidence amongst the users of family THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE planning services In the country. - MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI O.K. THARADEVI (Translation] SIDDHARTHA): (a) Yes, Sir. Spurt Car (b) Yes, Sir. 7342. DR. MAHADEEPAK SINGH (c) The report istoogeneralin nature to SHAKY A: Will the Ministerof RAILWAYS be call for any specific readion. It has even pleased to state: failed to mention the excellent work done under the Family WeHare Programme in (a) whether Self Propelled Ultrasonic many parts of the country especially In Rail Testing (SPURT) Car has been States like Goa, Kerala and Tamil Nadu. introduced to find out defects in the railway There is, however, merit in the central theme lines; of the report that effedive population control strategies would require improving (b) whether Indigenous SPURT Car fundamental socio economic conditions, has been used therefor; such as poverty, low female literacy, low status of women and gender inequities. (c) If so, the total kilometres of track These issues have in fad ~Iready been tested during 1991-92; and recognised priected by the Government. In orQerto evolve truly hoistic and multi-sectoral Cd) the outcome thereof and the adion strategies for population control, a Committee taken thereon? of the National Development Council has been constituted recently. The criticismthat THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Indian Family Planning Programme is MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI heavily sterilisation based is also not valid in MALLIKARJUN): (a) Yes, Sir. One il'llWrted thecontext of the conscious policy shift over SPURT Car has been procured and the past many years to vigrously promQte introduced. spacing methods, particulerly among younger couples. In this regard, it is (b) No indigenous car has either been significant to note that the 27,4 million"family developed or is under development, at planning acceptors during 1990-91, only 4.2 present. million were sterilisation acceptors. This trend is expected to emerge stronger in the (c) and (d). Does not arise. future years. Students Sent Abroad for Studies (d) The steps already envisaged under the new Action Plan formulated by the 7343. &HRI SURESHANAND SWAMI: Department of Family WeHare Schemes, Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE increased emphasis being placed on inter- DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: _personal communication, propercounselling and follow up services, improv9ment in the (a) whether meritorious students are quality of contraceptives with a view to sent abroad every year for further studies at making-them more effective and safe and Government expenses; · . 257 Written AnsWfllS VAiSAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written AnSWBtS 258 (b) if so, the number of such students 1990-91. sent abroad during the last three years, country-wise and University-wise? The Ministry of Welfare have intimated that they are operating the Scheme of (c) whether the Government propose National Overseas Scholarship for SC and to review the scheme for better monitoring; ST etc. students. Under this scheme 25 students used to be selected upto the year (d) if so, the details thereof; and 1990-91, which has since been increased to 30 from 1991-92. The details of students (e) the number of students proposed to selected under the scheme operated by be sent abroad for studieS during the year Ministry of Human Resource Development 1992-93? and those sent underthe Ministry of Welfare from 1989-90 to 1991-92, country-wise and THE MINISTER OF HUMAN University-wise are at Annexure-I. Ministry RESOURCE DEVElOPMENT (SHRI of Welfare propose to select 30 students ARJUN SINGH): (a) to (e). The Ministry of during 1992-93. Human resource Development (Deptt. of Education) had been operating a Scheme of The scheme being operated by Ministry Scholarships for Study Abroad since 1971- of Welfare has been reviewed in March 72, but fresh selections of scholars under 1992 and the details thereof are at Annexure- this scheme has been discontinued since II.

STATEMENT

A Schef7l9 of Scholarships for Study Abroad

USA

51. No. Naf7l9 of University No. of Students

1. University of Califomia

2. Pittsburg State University 2

3. University of Michigan

4. University of Missislpi 1

5. University of Minnesota 2

6. University of Pennysylvania 2

7. Rochester Institute of Technology 3

8. Mcgill University 1

9. Westem Michigan University 4 259 Written Answem APRIL 21, 1992 Written Answers 260

5/. No. Name of University No. 01 Studsnts

10. University of Edinburgh

11. MIChigan State University 1

12. University of Utah 1

13. Auburn State University 1

14. University of Nebraska j

15. University of Medicine & Dentistry 1

16. University of C~icago 2

17. Arizora State University

18. John Hopkings University 2

19. Geogre Washington University

20. University of Stretchlyede 2

21. Western Reserve University

22. Cornell University

33

UNITED KINGDOM

1. University of Western Ontario london

2. University of Cambridge 3

3. Kings College. cambridge

4. Queens University. london 1

5. london School of Economics

BELGIUM

1. University de leige 1 261 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 262

51. N(!. Name of Unlv8rslly No. of Students

CANADA

1. University of Ottawa

2. Ecole Polytechnic

2 ------.. -----

S.No. Name of University No. of Students b. Scheme of National Overseas Scholarship for SC and ST etc. Students

U.S.A.

1. Rechester Instt. of Technology

2. University of Penneyivania 2

3. University of Pittsburgh 4

4. University of Southern California 2

5. lilionis Inst. of Technology 2

6. University of Nebraska

7. John Hopkine Med. Science University 1

8. State University of Idahe

9. New York State University

10. New York Medical College

11. University of South Florida

12. University of Kansas

13. Northern Illinois University

14. University of Massachusetts

15. Medical Univ. of Southern Carolina 263 Wriltt1n Answers APRIL 21, 1992 WrilllJl1 Answsrs 264

Sl No. Name of Unil'sfsity No. of Students

16. University of Texas

17. University of Akron

18. Willmettee University

19. University of Mississippi

20. Wayne State University

21. University of Rochester

22. Oregon State Univer;;ity

23. Fort Hays State University

29 u.K.

1. University of Bath

2. University of Glassgow

3. london School of Hygiene & Tropical Mad.

4. City University

5. University of london 2

6. Asten Univ.

7. University of Reading 2

8. University of Southampton

9. University of Birmingham

11

CANADA

1. Me Gill University 265 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 266

51. No. Name of University No. of Students

2. St. John New Foundland

2

AUSTRALIA

1. New South Wales

SWEDEN

1. University of Uppasala

STATEMENT-II additional commitment would be projected to meetthe requirements under the modified (i) That the scheme to be continued proposals. from 1991-92 for a period of 5 years. In the first two years. Le. H aher consunatlons with ti1e Planning 1991-92 1992-93. the scheme Commission. it is proposed to continue the would be continued on the non- scheme on the non-plan side beyond 1991- plan side. Forthesubsequentyears 93, a further reference may be made to the the Ministry would explore the Finance Ministry for seeking approval of possibilities with the Planning Finance Minister. Commission of taking up the scheme in its revised shape on the (English] Plan side within the Plan outlays approved for the Ministry in the National Zoological Garden, New Deihl Vlllth Five Year Plan. 7344. SHRI K. THULASIAH (ii) The awards under the scheme VANDAYAR: should be increased from 25 to 30. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT:

(iii) Increase in the maintenance and Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT other allowances AND FORESTS be pleased to state:

(iv) Increase in the duration of courses (a) whether the National Zoological Garden, New Delhi is facing acute shortage (v) Income ceilling of Rs, 5,000/- per of trained keepers and the animals are not month to be Introduced as an being properly looked after; eligibility criterion. (b) If so, the reasons therefor; The approval would be subject to the condition that the Ministry of WeHare would (c) the total fund allocated for locate funds from its own resources, and no maintenance of the zoo arid the steps taken 267 W,men Answers APRIL 21;1992 Written Answers 268 by the Government to improve the condition The steps taken 10 irJl)l'OV8 lhecondltion thereof; and of the Zoo Include:-

Cd) the number of animal and birds on (i) The enclosures and cages of the record ofthis zoo in each ofthe last three several species have been years? improved to make these more congenial to animal health.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (ii) Modem reptile house and nocturnal MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND animal houses have been set up. FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NA TH): (a) and (b). Most of the keepers of the National (iii) Supply of clean and filtered water Zoological Partt, like all other zoos, have to animals for drinking purposes is acquired theirskills for handling zoo animals ensured. while wortting on the job and th~s are able to look after the animals. There had been no (Iv) Timely supply of adequate quantity organised effort for formal training of Zoo of appropriate food is ensured. Keepers. This aspect of Zoo management has been identified as one of the areas of (v) Expeditious disposal of waste concern of the Central Zoo Authority. material Is done to ensure better hygiene. (c) During 1991-92 an amount of Rs. 120.25 lakhs was provided for the upkeep (d) The number of animals and birds in and maintenance of the National Zoological the stock of the Zoo during the last 3 years Partt. were as under:

1988-89 1989-90 1990-91

Animals 399 408 415

Birds 751 846 917

1150 1254 1332

Railway Claims Ahmedabad during each of the last three years;

7345. SHRI AVTAR SINGH (b) the number of cases settled so far BHADANA: and the number of cases pending with the SHRI SHIVLAL NAGJIBHAI Tribunal; and VEKARIA: (c) the reasons for delay in settlement Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be of the pending cases and the steps proposed pleased to state: to be taken for their expeditious settlement?

(a) the number of claim cases received THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by the Railway Claims Tribunal at MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 269 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 270 MAlliKARJUN): (a) The information Is as under:

Year Number of cases Amount involved Rs,. received (in/akhs)

1989 2026 315

1990 1813 385

1991 729 156

1992 (upto 10.4.92) 305 130

(b) Bench has settled so far 1768cases The Uttar Pradesh Pollution cOntrol Board and 31 05 cases are pending as on 10.4.92. has conducted a survey of the industrial units in Ghatampur, K3npur. There are (c) There is no abnormal delay In three units In Ghatarr.purnamely MIs. Vlkram settlement of cases. The Tribunal has Cements (P) ltd., MIs. Krishna Fertilizers adopted a summary procedure for disposal (P) Ltd .. , MIs. Indus laminaters (P) Ltd., of cases and is also holding circuit benches and one big water polluting unit namely MI at other places in order to further expedite s. Ghatal1l>ur SUgar Co. ltd. All these the settlement. Industrial units have installed adequate pollution control devices. [ Translation] [English] Pollution In Kanpur Emergency Plans for Vulnerable 7346. SHRI KESRI LAl:Willthe Minister Industrial Complexes of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: 7347. SHRI SANATKUMAR MANDAl: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND (a) whether the Government have FORESTS be pleased to state: Inquired into the pollution caused by Cement factories and other industrial units at (a) whether the Government. propose Ghatampur and Kanpur Dehat; to prepare off-site emergency plans for most sensitive and vulnerable Industrial (b) if so, the details thereof; complexes to minimise or avoid human loss and propertydamage In view of large number (c) the action taken by the Government of accidents involving hazardous chemicals; against the factories spreadihg pollution; and (b) if so, the broad features thereof ~nd the industrial col1l>lexes identified for this (d) the steps taken by the Governemnt purpose; • to control the increasing pollution? (c) whether these plans are likely to be THE MINSTER OF STATE IN THE implemented through some Central agency MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND or that of the State Government concer FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATti): (a)to (d). ned; 271 Written Answers APRIL 21, 1992 WrlttenAnswetS 272 (d) the details thereof; and prograss. The plans win be finaJised in consunation wnh DIstrIct Authorities and (e) the role assigned to the State Implemented by the designated District Governments concerned In this regard, If authority as specified by the State any? Government.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Reservation of Seats In Kendrlya MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Vldyalayas FORESTS(SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) to (e). Oft - site emergency plans under the 7348. SHRI KARTIKESWAR PATRA: Manufacture, Storage and Import of Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Hazardous Chemicals Rules, 1989, are DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: required to be prepared in respect of hazardous chemical industries by the District (a) whether there Is a demand for Collector or district emergency authority reservation of 25% of the total seats in deSignated by the State Govememnt. Kendrlya Vidyalayas for general category However, to facilitate speedy Il1l>lementation students; of the Rules relating to preparation of off- site plans, the Ministry of Environment and (b) if so, the details thereof and Forests have initiated action for p~paration of the off-site emergency plans for 10 (c) the reaction of the Government industrial col1l>lexes In the country. These thereto? complexes have been suggested by the State Governments con~rned as priority THE MINISTER OF HUMAN areas for preparation of such plans. These RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI complexes are Vadodara in Gujarat, ARJUN SINGH): (a) and (b). Suggestions Tutlcorin & Cuddalore in Tamil Nadu, Thane have been received from time to time from and Raigarh in Maharashtra, Mangalore in various sources seeking reservations for Kamataka, Midnapore and Durgapurin West various categories of students like local Bengal, Moradabad in Uttar Pradesh, Kota population, children of ex-servicement etc. in Rajasthan and Vishakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh. (c) The admissions In the Kendriya Vidyalayas are according to certain priorities The off-site emergency plans detail consistent with the purpose· for which the how emergencies relating to a major Sangathan was established~ chemical accident on the site or complex or chemical Industrial complex concerned will Dlstrtbutlon of Condoms Through be dealt with. The plans would take into Public Distribution System accountthe identification of hazardous units . in the districts, hazard analysis, review of 7349. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: on-site plans, transportation routes, Win the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY measures for safety communication, WE:LFARE be pleased to state: adequacy of protection equipment during emergencies etc. (a) whether the Prime Minister had suggested at the Conference of Heahh Of the 10 plans, ihe plan for Vadodara Ministers of Slates on January 7, 1992 at has been prepared. The work for the New Delhi that condoms for family planning preparation of other off-site plans Is In should be distributed through the Public 273 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 274 Distribution System; (a) whether there Is any proposal to make the Hospitals In Deihl referral by (b) If so, the final decision taken in this attaching dispensaries with them which only ragard; and will refer the cases to the hospitals so as to reduce the rush in the hospitals; (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken for taking the family planning (b) If so, the details thereof; programmes to the remotest parts of the country? (c)whether there Is any proposal to establish a CGHs run poly-clinic In South THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Deihl like R.K. Puram to provide the basic MINISTRY OF . HEALTH AND FAMILY health care facilities; and WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA): (a) Yes, Sir. (d) if not, the reasons thereof?

(b) The StateslUTs have been urged to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE utilise the Public Distribution System for MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY distribution of contraceptives. The States WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARADEVI have been advised to work out detailed SIDDHARTHA): (a) No, Sir. modalities in consultation with the Social Marketing firms so as to use the Fair Price (b) Does not arise. Shops as additional outlets for sale of condoms. (C) and (d). There Is no such proposal at present.· (c) Rural Health Services including Family Welfare services are provided to all Improvement of Environment sections in rural areas including remotest areas through the net-work of Sub-Centres, 7351. SHRISANATKUMAR MANDAL: Primary Health Centres and Community Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND Health C\Jltres. 'At present 1.31 lakh sub- FORESTS be pleased to state: centres, 22328 PHCs and 1955 CHCs in rural areas are already functioning. Besides (a) whether the attention of the these institutions, there are 5.961akh trained Government has been drawn to the news dais and 3.35 lakh village Health Guides item captioned "Environment takes a back already working in rural areas. seat in IMF- aided plans· appearing in ttte 'Observer of Business and Politics' , New In addition it is proposed to established Deihl dated March 24, 1992; 759 Primary Health Centres and 259 Community Health Centres during the year (b) if so, the reasons for India's state of 1992-93 under minimum needs programme environment being critical; and by the States. (c) the measures proposed by the Hospitals In Deihl Govemment to countenance the situation administratively and efficiently?

7350. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Will the Mini~ter of HEAlTH AND FAMILY THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE WELFARE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 275 Written Answers APRIL 21, 1992 Written Answers 276 FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a) Yes, Minister of FOOD be pleased to state: Sir. (a) the total requirement of rice and (b) and (c). The state of environment in wheat per year in the country; the country is the outcome of a variety of factors which have a historical background (b) the quantity of rice and wheat out of and which arise from a complex interplay of the total production exported during the last pressures on the natural resources. During three years, year-wise? the past decade, the Government has taken several measures to deal with the situation THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and to protect the environment. These MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI TARUN include legislative and policy measures, GOGOI): (a) As the demand depends on strengthening of infrastructure at Central various factors, such as population growth, and State levels, implementation of action extent of urbanisation, levels of income, programmes for 'cleaning' and 'greening prices of substitutes etc., precise estimates involvement of non-governmental of requirements of wheat and rice in the organisations, environmental awareness country are not available. The target for campaigns and related activities. These food production is fixed by the Ministry of measures are to be expanded in the future. Agriculture after taking into account the reqUirements. Requirement of Rice and Wheat (b) The required information is given 7352. SHRI M. RAMANNA RAI: Willthe below:

(Qty. in lakh tannes)

1989-90 1990-91 1991-92 upta Feb., 1992)

Wheat 0.12 2.01 6.72

Basmati rice 3.97 2.42 2.02

Non-Basmati 0.27 3.14 4.06 rice.

Age Care Home with Central subsidy during the Eighth Pin; 7353. SHRI M.G. REDDY: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (c) whether voluntary or charitable WELFARE be pleased to state: organisations are proposed to be encouraged to establish age care homes (a) whether there is an increase in life with financial assistance; expectancy of mwle and female in India; (d) if so, the details thereof; and (b) whether the Government propose to construct age care homes in each district (e) if not, the action proposed to by the 2n Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 278 Government to look after the weHare of Deihl Forest Department elder citizens? 7355. SHRI BHERUlAL MEENA: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY FORESTS be leased to state: WELFARE (SHRIMATI OK THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether the Forest Department of Delhi is capable to protect the environment . (b) No, Sir. and forest in the capital;

(c) to (e). Voluntary Organisations are (b) if so. the details thereof and the provided financial assistance upto 90% of scheme in this regard; the approved cost for establishing Old Age Homes under the General Grant-in-Aid (c) whether the Forest Guards and . Scheme of the Ministry of WeHare. The Forest Range Officers have been provided remaining 10% of the cost is to be borne by ample powers and facilities for protecting such organisations themselves. environment in the Capital;

[ Translation] .. (d) if so, the details thereof; and Shortage of Medicines In T.B. (e) if not, the reasons therefor? Hospital THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR 7354. SHRI VISI..iWANATH SHASTRI: ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY KAMAL NATH): (a) Forest Department of WELFARE be pleased to state: Delhi Administration is reported to be looking afterforestslplantations in the Union Territory (a) whether there is acute shortage of outside the urban limits. Within the Urban medicines in Rajan Babu T.B. Hospital of Limits, the local authorities viz. D.D.A., Delhi; M.C.D., & N.D.M.C. look after plantations, parks gardens througth their Horticulture (b) if so, the steps taken by the Departments; For controlling environmental Government in this regard; and pollution, the Delhi Pollution Control Committee coordinates action. (c) the steps Government propose to take to check irregularities in the purchase (b) Delhi Administration have proposed of such medicines? in the Vlllth Plan to upgrade and strengthen their Forest Department and equip it with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE capability to look after afforestation and MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY protection of Forests in the Union Territory. WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI SIDDHARTHA): (a) Municipal Corporation (c) & (d). Deihl Administration have of Delhi have informed that there is no reported that the concerned officials in the shortage of medicines in Rajan Babu T.B. Forest Department and in the Horticulture Hospital. Departments of local bodies have been declared as Forest Officers underthe Indian (b) and (c). Do not arise.. Forests Act. 279 Written Answers APRil 21, 1992 Writt9fJ Answers 280 (e) Does not arise: (a) whether a goods train had met with an accicIent on Deihl Kanpursectlon recently [English] during its trial;

Use of Solar Energy (b) if so, the causes oftlle accident; and

7356. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHEE (c) the steps proposed to be taken to TINDIVANAM: Will the Minister of avoid such accidents? RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Railways are using solar MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI power-operated signals in areas where MALLIKARJUN): (a) and (b). No, Sir. electricity is ,)t available. However, an ordinary Goods train derailed on Delhi-Kanpur section on 28/3/92. The (b) if so, the quantum of diesel and cause of the accident has been attributed to electricity saved du ring 1991-92 as a result a wagon defect. thereof; and (c) Some of the important steps being (c) whether the Railways have any taken to reduce such derailments include programme to extend the use of solar energy ultrasonic testing of axles, improving quality to other areas as well? of out-turn of wagons from workshops, intensive and frequent inspections of train THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE examination facilities. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MALLIKARJUN): (a) Yes, Sir. Besides, Suitable disciplinary action is also taken Railways have also used solar energy for against the persons held responsible for ~lectric lighting of Semaphore signals in negligence in maintenance of equipment. other areas where there have been technical problems with regard to kerosene lit signals. [English)

(b) Electricity saved on the above Environment and Development account during 1991-92 is estimated at 19050 KWH whic.h is equivalent to 90200 7358. SHRIMATI OIL KUMAR I litres of kerosene oil. BHANDARI: SHRIGEORGE FERNANDES: (c) Yes, Sir. Solar energy is also being used/planned forsolarwaterheating plants, Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT solar distilled water plants, battery charging . AND FORETS be pleased of signalling system and for electrification of to state: stations based on techno-economic merits. (a) whether the Govemment emphasise [ Translation] on sustainable development;

Accident of Goods Train (b) if so, the steps taken· to reduce the perceived conflict between environment and 7357.SHRISURYANARAYANYADAV: development; and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to stat~: (c) if not, the reasons therefor? 281WrittenAnswers VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 282 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) whether any training centres are MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND proposed to be set up for this purpose; and , FORESTS(SHRIKAMAl NATH): (a) Yes, Sir. (d) if so, the details thereof?

(b) The various steps that have been THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE takeninclude the following: MI~ISTRY OF ENVIRONMENt AND FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL NATH): (a)to (d). (i) Integration of environmental While there has been no organised effort to considerations in the formulation provide formal training to the subordinate of development programmes staff posted In the Zoos, they acquire the through the exercises of .skills in handling and managing the Zoo environmental impactassessment, animals, which is their main responsibility, right from the planning stage; while working on the job. Wildlife Institute of Indiahas. however, been organishing some (ii) Cost benefit analysis includinglong Capsule Courses for the Zoo managers. term effect on environmental resourcesand lifesupportsystems; The management of National Park and Sanctuaries, on the other hand, requires (iii) Incentives for resource skills In the management of entire eco- conservation pollution control, system. This needs multi-disciplinary skills waste minimisation, recycling and and, therefore, require staff having training reuse of waste; and and expertise both in management of the habitat and In management of wild animals. (iv) Education and training programmes for increasing public The Wildlife Institute of India organises awareness and creation of a 3 month Certificate Course for Forest professional capabilities for Rangers, 9 months Diploma Course for tlie integration of environmental Assistant Conservator of Forests/Dy. concerns in the development censervatcr of Forests and Capsule programmes of various sectors. Courses for senior officers. The officers so trained bythe Wildlife Institute of India,while (c) Does n9~arise. functioning as managers ofvarious national parks and sanctuaries, impart on the job Training of Staff Working in Zoos. training to the subordinate staff on basic National Parks, Sanctuaries principles of wild Life management.

< 7359. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA The StateGovernments have also been RAJE: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT requested to organise formal training fortlle AND FORESTS be pleased to state: subordinate staff.

(a)whetherthe staff workingin different Zoos,National Parks and Sanctuaries are Residential Schocls for Backward nottrained ad~quately to look after the Classes animals,birds and other species; 1360. SHRI G.M.C. BALAYOGl: Will (b) if so, the steps taken to provide the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE propertrainingto those staff; DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 283 Written Answers APRil 21, 1992 Written Answers 284 (a) whether the Union Govemment has been drawn to the news item captioned propose to set up any Residential Schools 'Ashuddhi-yon ke bavjood bik rahi hai Man~ for the Backward Classes students; tol" appearing in 'Dainik Jagran' (New Delhi edition) dated February 5, 1992. •(b)if so, the details thereof and the time by which these are likely to be set up; (b) if so, the ~tails thereof;

(c)whetherthe UnionGovemment have (c) the action taken or proposed to be also formulated any scheme for providing taken in this regard; better education to them durng 1992-93; and (d)the detailsof Itsdistributors invarious parts of the country and the name of the (d) if so, the details thereof? company manufacturing the said medicine; and THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (e) when the company Was licenced ARJUN SINGH): (a) to (d). The Ministry of . and its annual production? Hurnan Resource Development has no scheme of opening of schools specifically , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for Backward Classes. However, inorderto MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY providegoodqualityeducationtothe talented WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI children predominatly from the rural areas, SIDDHARTHA): (a) Yes, Sir. Government of India havesofar established 275 Navodaya Vidyalayas. Reservation of (b) and (c). As per the information seats in favour of children belonging to the available, the Grug control machinery ofthe Scheduled Castes and scheduled Tribes is Govemment of UttarPradesh had inspected provided in proportion to their population in the premises of M/s. Paras Ram Deep . the concerned district, provided that in no Char'ld, Kanpur, and M/s. Rajiv Agencies. district such reservation is less than the Kanpur, and had taken two samples of national average. Injection Manitol 065 A lot Batch No. 1782, manufacturedby Mls. Shree Krlshna Keshav Besides, the Ministry of Welfare have Laboratories Ltd., Ahmedabad, for testing. introduced a centrally sponsored scheme Both the samples have been reported to be for establishment of Ashram Schools for of standard quality by the Government tribal sub-plan areas from the year 1990-91. Analyst, Uttar Pradesh.

Both the schemes will continue during 1992-93.

[ Translation]

Alleged Unauthorised Sale of Manltol

7361. SHRI PlUS TIRKEY: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state:

(a)whetherthe Govemment's attention 285 WdltBn AnsIMs VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Written AnsWBfS 286 (Ii) Ufs.. Sleek Agencies. G-5, Patel (f) whether Eco-Health groups or Non- 'Nagar -III, Ghazlahad (U.P.) GovemmentalOrganlsatlon (NGO's) would be involved In this regard; and flV) Mis. Bhasin Pharma DistrbItors, 5, Ouni House, Film CoIony,Jcqu (g) II so, the detaUs thereof? (f!ajasthan) THE MINISTER OF STATE .IN THE (v) MIs. Goal Distmutots, E-165, Praet MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Vihar, VIcas Marg, 0aIhi-"92. FORESTS (SHRI KAMAL HATH): (a) and (b). The SAARC Secretariat has prepared a The Conmissioner, Food and Drugs -Regional Study on Causes and Administration, Gujarat, had given alicance Consequences of Natural Disasters and .' ,# to theCOfl1l8lly on 1.3.1966 underthe name Protection and Preservation of Environment . . and style MIs. Mogaw-Ravindra (India) Ltd. - In the SAARC Minister's Meeting held at to manufactureforsale LV. Auids. Later,on Colombo in November, 1991, it was decided 14.8.1984, the Company changed its name to set up a Committee on Environment to to Mis. Shrae Krishna Keshav laboratories examine the recommendations, contained ltd., Ahmedabad. tts production was in the Regional. Study and propose 90.82,319 bottles of large volume I. V. Fluids ~mentatlon measures. The Committee and 3,17,659 bottles of Injection Mannitol he~ its first meeting at Dhaka on 17-19 20% 350 mlin the year 1991. February, 1992 in which urgent action was proposed for the recommendations [Engish] contained in the report concerning Environment Management Infrastructure, SAARC Panel on Environment Land and Water Use Planning, Mountain Development In the Himalayan Region, 7362. SHRIMATI OIL KUMARI Coastal Zone Management, Forestry and BHANDARI: Will the Minister of Watershed Programme, Energy and ENVIRONMMENT AND FORESTS be Environment, Pollution Control and pleased to state: Hazardous Substances, Biodiversity Management, People's Participation In (a) whether SAARC Panel on Resource Management, Environmentally Environment had worked out any strategy Sound Habitat related Technologies and to Check the environmental misuse and Establishment of Relief and Assistance degradation In the region; • Mechanism for Disaster Management.

(b) if so, the salient features thereof; (c) Nofunclng arrangements have been worked out so far. (c) the quantum of fund allocated by SAARC to iq)Iement such a strategy and (d) and (e). Do not arise. ~ India's contrbution thereto;

(d) whether any time frame had been . (f) and (g). The recommendations for laid down In this regard; cooperation envisage actlveinvolvement of the Non-Govemmental Organisations In the (f if so, the details thereof; Member States of the SAARC Region 287 Written AnsW81S APRL 21, 1992 Wdlten AnswetS 288 ( Tta/lSlation] Resean:h has Informed that 245 individuals weia efl1)loyad from time to time In various Absorption of OffIcials Engaged In researchprojec:ts of the !CUR In connection Connection with Bhopal Gas Tragedy with Bhopal Gas Tragedy. Fultherthat the Bio-data etc. of the eRlJloyees seeking 7363. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA absorption have been submilted in the office VARMA: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND of the Principal Secretary to Governermt of FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Madhya Pradesh.

(a) whether many officials were PenaIon to Arjun Award WInners el'\1)loyed by looJan Council for Medical Research in regard to the Bhopal Gas 7364. ~I V. KRISHNA RAO: Tragedy; SHRI K.H. MUNIYAPPA:

(b) whether In a meeting convened Will the Minister of HUMAN under the Chainnanship ofthe then Cabinet RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased Secretary on September 29, 1988, it was to state: decided that the persons appointed in connection with the Bhopal Gas Tragedy (a) the amount of pension given to the will be absorbed against other posts In the Aljun Award winner sportsmen; Governemnt of India; (b) whether some of them are not (c) if so, the total number of such claiming the pension; employees and the number out of them absorbed so far in the Govemmentservices; (c) if so, the details thereof; and (d) whether there is a demand to (d) i( not, the schemes of the increase the amount of pension; and Governemnt in regard to the absorption of these employees? (e) it SQ, the reaction of the Government thereto? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI D.K. THARADEVI THE M;",;STER OF STATE IN THE SIDDHARTHA): (a) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (DEPARTMENTS OF (b) No Sir. However, in the said meeting YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND dated 29.9.1988, it was decided that the WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT) Ministry of l1ealth would examine and (KUMARI MAMATABANERJEE): (a) There prepare ascheme forabsorblngthe scientific is no schema for grant of pension to ArJun personnel engaged by the ICMR for their Awardees. However, under the National studies in Bhopal. Under the scheme these Welfare Fund for sportspersons,. monthly persons can be offered appointment in the pension of uplO As. 1500 may be given to Government provided they posses the outstanding sportspersons' if they are living necessary qualifications on their release by in indigent circumstanoes. These pensions tha.lndian Council of Medical Research. are granted for limited periods. Such pensions have been sandIonedtofourArjun (c) and (d). The Indan Council of MedIcal Awardees or their famBles. so far. 289 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 290 (b) to (e). Does not arise. AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI D.K. THARAOEVI SIDDHARTHA): I invite attending to the Statement c09rrectlng reply to reply given to the Lok Sabha unstarred unstarrad Question no. 5391 dated 30- Question No. 5291 on 31-3-1992 regarding 3-1992 regarding Recruitment SCIST recruitment of Sc/ST employees in Health remployees In health Ministry Ministry. In the reply pertaining to part (a), (b) and (c) of the Question, inadvetently THE MINISTER OF THE STATE IN some error was commi9tted. The correct THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY information is as follow:

Question Reply

(a) the numberof candidates belonging During the special recruitment drive to scheduled castes and scheduled tribes ending 31.5.1991, the Ministry of Heaalth recruited by his Ministry under special and Family WeHare recruited 126 and 75 recruitment drive during last on e year; candidates belonging to scheduled castes and scheduled tribes, repectively. (b) the category for which they have been selected; and Gr.A Gr.B Gr.C Gr.D Total

(c) the category-wise total number of SC: 18 4 90 14 -126 posts lying vacant in his Ministry at present? ST: 7 54 14 75

25 4 144 28 201

Gr.A Gr.B Gr.C Gr.D Total

SC: 13 2 86 9 10

ST: 15 5 95 17 132

28 7 181 26 242 (As on 10.3.1992)

The inconvenience caused is regretted. Statement Correcting Reply to While no formal proposal has been Unstarred Question No. 4331 Dated made to the Maharashtra Governemnt 24.3.1992 Regarding Land for Lalit regarding allotment of land, the Chairman, Kala Akademi Lalit Kala Akademi has taken up the matter with the various functionaries of the THE MINISTER OF HUMAN Maharashtra State Government for RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI allotment of land for a regional Centre of the ARJUN SINGH): I Invite attention to the Lalit Kala Akademi. Formal response from English and Hindi version of the reply given the State Government allotting the land and to Un starred Question No. 4331 for abiding by other conditions for setting up a 24.3.1992 regarding Land for Lalit Kala regional centre is still awaited. This Akadami. correction statement is submitted by way of 291 WlinBIJAnswetS APRL21, 1192 ...... 2SI2 amplification of facts, which wel8 noted FinanceMilislry. BlaJOU ..belUlpltaad from records only recently; hence the delay to know thai only the next day Le. on 3rd in laying the statement AprIl. JoInI SecraIary In the IInIsIry of finance ShrI NP. BagchI wraIe a IeIIer to Inconvenience is regretted. ShrI B.I<. Das. who is JoInI Secnllary In the cabinet SecI81ariaL In the last para of the letter he says:

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[ Trans/ation] .. has been our experience thai whenever a central team visits the SHRI MADAN LA KHURANA (SOuth State, II invariably rec:ornmends Delhi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, with your additional assistance over and permission, I am citing a glaring example of above the Central c:ontrlXllion to the blatant violation of Prime Ministe(s the fund which is in accoldance orders, particularly, by the Finance Ministry with the recommendation of the as also various Ministries of the Central 9th Finance Commission. Government, which have adopted an Therefore, Centre is not in a insensitive and improper attitude towards posIion to bear addItionaJ burden States and created a wedge in the centre resulting from the state relations. racommendations of the Central team. • was In this background Mr. Speaker, Sir, in October, 1991 in that_ have expressed ourinabilily the three districts of Uttar Pradesh, viz. to the Ministry of Agricuftul8 to Uttar kashi, Tehri and Chamoli there was a deputeofflC8rs on the Centralteam loss of nearly Rs. 400 crore and nearly 750 visiting the States.- people lost their lives. The Prime Minister issued the directive to send a Central team (T~ to the affected areas to make an assessmenl of the damage and to report as to how much Mr. Speaker, Sir, through you, • would additional financial assistance is to be Ike to Inform this House that a team was provided to the Govemmentof Uttar Pradesh appointed to assesS' the losses in Uttar as relief. Pradesh on the directives from the Prime Minister, the team Is organised, but the Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Prime Minister Anance Minister says that IIsends a team sent the information about this decision to thel8,l1 shaI have to recommend additional the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh on the assistance, so II wolJld not be sending a 23rd March, 1992 and in'response to it, the teamthel8: This way the orders of the Prime Chief Minister of Uttar pradesh sent a letter Minister are being violated and it becomes of thanks to the Prime Minister. With that quite clearfrom it as to what sort of treatment begins the story that on the 2nd April. Under is being given to the States by the CentI8..• Secretary in the Ministry of Agriculture, Shri would like to add that the Order is not only RB. Kutty, issued an order under his for UIlar Pradesh but it Is written in I. signature announcing a 7 Member Central "Central Tearn visiting the States-. means Team to be sent to the State and I possess that It wII not visI any other state in future a copy of the concemed order which was . aJso,latthe Prime Minlstergoon issuing any sent to various Ministers including the clredivetoanyStata.lwouId Iika to say that VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Wtftten Answers 294 Ute Para 6 (t8) of the racommendations of any financial penalty that may be Impose on the NnIh Finance Comrrission provides them by the Indian judiciary. that • Ute loss ~ to any clamlty Is too nu:h,Uteriaturalc:mamltyshouldbe handled • maybe mentioned here that originally, at the nationailaYel and provisions should In 1986, the Indian Government, as the sole be made for special financial asslsfance. legal representative 0' the gas Victims. had The Prime Minister decided to provide announced that It would claim $3,000 million additional assistance to U.P.1n accordance as damages. In view of this, the with the same para 6 (18). May I know Govemment's subsequent acceptance of whether the Government can function in the SUpreme Court's settlement of the paltry this manner, when the Finance Minister is sum of $470 million has failed to satisfy the guarding the coffers like a cobra coiling over victims as being Inadequate and a!bitrary. It. WiD the States continue to like at his Contributing an additional $17 million which mercy. The Prtme Minister should come Is peanuts 'or a company like UCC to build forward with a reply as to the conditions up a hospital. has some kind 0' token . under which his orders were neglected. atonement of their sins perhaps, Is, to say the least. an Insult to the victims, apart from (English] the fact that it also is an act of defiance againstthe Indian Judiciary. It is all the most SHRIMATlMALINI BHATTACHARAYA strange that the hon. Minister of Chemicals (Jadavpur): Sir,lt has appeared in the TlITI8s and Fertilisers, in answerto a supplementary of India. Economic TilTl9s and other Papers question that was asked by me on 25.3.92, that the Union Carbide COfTll8ny Is selling said: "We are not thinking of prosecuting off its holdings in India, ostensibly to raise up anyone·. When the CBI is already helping to seventeen million to set up a hospital for criminal proceedings against the Union the treatment of the gas victims. This is Carbide Company .• can the Minister make being done at a time when the Supreme a statement of this kind? That is the question Court, by its judgment on 3.10.91, has that I would submit to you. revoked the criminal irrvnunity granted to Union Carbide Company by the earlier . There is today a rally of the gas victims settlement of February, 1989 and when in the capital In the name of justice that has criminal proceedings have been initiated been long denied to the gas victims. the against the UCC. The Chief Judicial Government should come out with a Magistrate, Bhopal has already proclaimed statement and say whether they are willing UCC, the accused NO.1 0 as absconding in to freeze the UCC's assets in India and help the Bhopal gas leak disaster criminal case. to initiate extradition proceedings against and proclamation to this effect has already Warren Anderson (Interruptions) been published In Washington Post and Times of India. Also, a non-bailable arrest SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (Bankura): warrant has been issued against Warren The Government should respond to it. . Anderson. the then Chairman 0' UCC. to ( Interruptions) :' initiate extradition proceedings again;t him. This rouses suspicion that attempts of the SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE Union carbide Company to sell off Its (Dumdum): Sir. we have raised this Issue holdings at this stage Is only a pretext which again and again. There should be some might enable them subsequently to escape response. 295 Written Answers APRil 21. 1992 Wdtten AnSW91S 296 [ Translation] (EnglishJ

SHRI RABI RAY (Kendrapada): Mr. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY Speaker, Sir,l and SM Saifuddin Choudhury (Katwa): Sir, this matter has been raised, had raised this issue some days back that time and again, in this House. The real the orders of the Judicial Magistrat", should question that is involved is to uphold the be complied with. We have also made a dignity of our courts. The Govemment has demand for the extradition of Mr. Anderson to be very responsible to maintain it I now in order to maintain the dignity and respect want to know what adion the Govemment of Indian Law but i: is not being done. has taken afterthe Chief Judicial Magistrate Reports appear in the U.S. newspapers gave his order and declared that Mr. that Mr. Anderson is innocent. The people of Anderson is an absconder and later on that country say that the Government of Issued arrasl warrant I want to knowwhether l:1dia does not have the courage to obtain tney have taken up the matter with the U.S. his extradition. Ther~ is a question of lraeze Govemment to start extracfltion proceedings also. It is multi-national company. Tho power or not. This is very important. of the U.S. Government is at its back. The poiitical question also arises. Shri Now, in the criminal case that has been Kumaramangalam is present here and he filed against this company and personally is listening to what we are saying .. WiII this against Mr. Anderson it is said that they are Govemment bow before Union Carbide? responsible for the killing of at ieast 4,000 Will there be no action on the orders of the people in that gas leak disaster that took J~dicia! Magistrate who has said U'lat he place in BhOpal. Corfl}ared to the issue of should be arrested and brought here? Most Libyan suspects- whose crime has not been of the victims of this incident ~ave staged a proved and still the U.S.A. is forcing Ubya to dharna today. Eight thousands people died extradite the two persons- is Bhopal not a and 40-50 thousand people are nearly dying big issue? Sanctions have been if1l>Osed for which the Union Carbide is responsible. against Libya on the bombing of the aircraft So it is the question of dignity and respect of case. Then on what right U.S.A. would India. The Governmen: should at once make oppose extraditing Mr. Anderson? We a statement about the decision of the union should take up this matter with the U.S. Carbide that it wiil f~eeze its subsidiaries Government and ask for the extradition of here and set up a hospital. The Union Mr. Anderson so that a proper trial can be Carbide is a murtj-national company and the conducted in our country and justice can be U.S. Government is at its back. It is because done to the victms and also to their relatives of this threat that the decision of the Judicial and to the people of this country. This is very Magistrate of Bhopal !s not being ifr1>ortant.1 want to know whether this matter implemented. has been taken up with the U.S. Government and also what action the Government is SHRI GE0RGE FERNANDES taking in this matter .(Interruptions) (Muzaffarpur): i support what Shri Rabi Ray and Shrimati Bhattacharya, have said. I SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: This want to raise a question on the independence matter was raised in this House 15 days oi the press. There is terrible assault on the back. The Govemment has not responded. press at many places In this country. I want to know what steps the Government is taking to arrest Mr. Anderson. MR. SPEAKER: It is another issue. MR. SPEAKER: Shrimati Malini SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: It is Bhattacharaya belongs to your party. She very important. spoke just now.

MR. SPEAKER: I will call your name afterwards. (Interruptions) 297 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) [TtallsIalion} - let the Government raspond. We will sit down Immedlatsly. (lntsrruptions). DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA (Mandsaur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, a discussion (Translat/on) on the Bhopal gas tragedy has taken place in the House many a time. Still there are SHRI RAM VIlAS PASWAH (Rosera): thousands of people in Bhopal who have not The Government should come out with got full protection nor have they been something In this connection today or provided any health facility. Under such tomorrow. Is there any institution called circumstances and'in the light of the recent Government arnot? Even on such a serious Press reports that the Union Cartide is issue, the Government is not coming out selli.'lg off all its holdings to set up hospital with any statement. I think that right now whereas the claims of gas victims have not facts are not available with the been settled as yet, thousands of people Government...(/nterruptions). The have died, the decision of the Government Government is more engrossed In the should come forward as to what is their line Congress (1) 's internal politics. The of action? Have all the cases of claims been Government reacts even on minor issues, settled or whether they have been given full but on such a major and serious issue the permission, how many cases are pending in Govemmentmustsaysomething it not today. the courts? After all, what is the factual later on. It must say some -thing. position? Why are they salling off their (Interruptions) . holdings,l would like to know about It all. The Government should make a statement on it. [English1 Thousand of people are still facing crisis. Demonstrations are baing held. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Sir, the Government is keeping silence. [English] (Interruptions). We want to know whether the extradition proceedings have already SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Sir, the been started. Government should respond. The Bhopal Court has given the Judgment for arresting SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: Anderson. What action the Government The very senior Minister, Shrl Arjun Singh. has initiated to arrest Anderson? Why the Is there, the Minister of Parliamentary Affalrs Government is silent? (Interruptions) The is also there. Let them respond. law Mini<.(er is here. He should respond. (Interruptions) SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: We want to know why they are not rasponding. SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: (interruptions). Sir, what did the U.S. Government do? A very senior Minister is present. He cali SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: The I'8Spond. Every day we are coming up against Bhopal Court has giVen the judgment. We this that we feel helpless before the stance want to know the action taken by the of the United States Government. Every Government. (Interruptions). day this 'Coming up in this House. We want to know the response of the GoverlJment. MR. SPEAKER: Now, what Is the fact (Interruptions} . on this point? Please coiled It anC2infonnthe House. MR. SPEAKER: Now we allowed you to bring this matter to the notice of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government, you have brought It to the MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS notice of the Governme~t. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND SHRI NIRMAl KANTI CHATTERJEE: COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARAJAN 299WdllenAnsIMs APRL21.1992 WtlrenAnsMHS 300 KUMARAMANGAl.AM: sr. Iwi! obtai'! aI MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SOHTOSH the full fads and let you know. MOHAN DEY): They have been glllen~. (tJtBnvpIlonB) . SHRI BASU DEB ACHARJA: When? Today? [ TnrnsIafIoIJ)

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. AdlarIa. now StlRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. please 51 down. Speaker. Sir. aItack on the press' in the country means attack on the Constitution of SHRI NIRMAl KANTI CHATlERJEE: india. For the last few days atteqJts have Alleast It should be done befOI8 the end of been underway to throttle through various the day. (Interruptions) means the freedom of speech and freedom of .expression guaranteed under Article - MR. SPEAKER: let the information be 19(1) - CA) of the Constitution. I do not want given to the House. to go Into the history. but whenever any journalist is attacked by terrorists in Punjab [Trans/ation] or at any other place, it provides us an opportunity to raise hue and cry against it SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES and also to raise the Issue in the House. (Muzaffarpur): Mr. Speaker. Sir. I would Ike However, If the Government itself to raise an issue hel'8 whictl might cause a perpetuates such an attack or &ven a stann in the House. but there is no other strongerattackthan that. then where should option. Fresh onslaught has been ~unched we raise our voice against It? The question on the press in the country. now stands at this point A journalist of Madras. South India, is living underground SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE in Delhi for fear of arrest against an arrest (lucknow): Mr. Speaker, Sir, he gave a warrant issued against him. Arrest warrant similar assurance earlier in the House that had been Issued because within the after verification of facts; he will come out legislative Assen1>ly ..•.• with details. I raised the issue of sufferings of the Indian students studying In USSR as [English) a I'8SUltof itsdisinlegration. On yourdredion. the hon. Minister had promised to make a MR. SPEAKER: No. Mr. Femandes. statement • but till date no statement has been made •... [Ttanslation)

MR. SPEAKER: There is no question of SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I am mel'8ly making a statement I had asked the not referring to the name of any legislative Government to render all assistance to ihe Assembly. students in USSR. [English] . SHRI ATAl BIHARI VAJPAYEE: We want to know as to what type of assistance MR. SPEAKER: I am allOWing you to has been given to them. WiD you please find raise this Issue outside the House. H it out? r8lates to anything done by any legislature. we shaI have to decide whether we have to [English) take I up here.

MR. SPEAKER: That we will find out. (1n18mJptiolls) We have gone one step ahead. not information. [Translation)

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. 301 WdIten Answers VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) Speaker, SIr, wllthe han. aadsIersdemand [TI8IJSIaIIot4 anasl and producIion of pt'8SS persons handcuffed in the- House if they raport Theywrol8thallheymaintalnedsience tomonow that the Minister maintained .. a dumb person. sIence Ib a dumb In the House during the Question Hour when Anderson Issue was (EngIsh) being debated upon. There Is a Imi to everything .. Sir, you at least need not give he Is defending and protecting the sermons aboutthe Conslllulion of India. Sir, security of the Stale, If anything he Is you IftISI be I'8fI18ri)ering that subclause- not ofIencing it. 2 was added later on to the article -19, wherein right to freedom a fundamental [TtanSIaIion} right is enshrined in the ConstiIution of India. In the first amendment to the constitution, Behaviourdoes not make anydfference after two years of the ConstitutIon coming to him. into effect, subclause -2 was added to the article. Sir, you please go through. [Englsh)

(English) 'riendly relaiions with foreign States, public order, decency or morality, or In "Nothing in sub-clause (a) of dause (1) I'8IaIion to conten'lJ1 ofcourt, defamation shaD affectthe operation 01 any existing or incitement to an offense.- law, or prevent the State from making any law, in so far as such law irTllOSS (Translation] reasonable restrictions- Mr. Speaker, Sir, nobody outside can [ Tl'31ls/ation] put curbs on my freedom of speech and on freedom of expression of the press in Next thing is quite important anyway. However, I Constitution of India is violated In any part of the country and the (English] Constitutional and moral rights are sought to be curbed, then..... "on the exercise 01 the right conferred by the said sub-clause in the interests (English) of the sovereignty and integrity of India-, MR. SPEAKER: To' protect the [TI'31ls/ation] fundamental rights of the citizen, the Constitution has provided a machinery. How do the Minis1ers behave here Under Article 32 and under Article 226, anybody who is aggrieved can go to the [English] Court of law and protect himself.

"the security of the State-, [ Tl'31lSlation)

( TI'31lSlation] SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: What for are we here.ltook on oath right to defend I they kept num like a dumb. the Constitution.

"(English] [English}

-that does not affect the sovereignty I have taken an oath to defend this and t~ integrity of India, the security Constitution standing there right in front of of the state .. you. 303 Written Answers APRIL 21,1992 Written Answers 304 [ Translation} MR. SPEAKER: Oh -Yes.

MR. SPEAKER: It is 'lot like this. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Butthe question of approaching the court will arise SHRIGEROGE FERNANDES: I agree when in safeguarding this Constitution and that if this House ... (lnte"uptions) people working under It, we ... (lnterruptions)

(EngOsh] [English]

SHRI M.R.KADAMBUR JANAR- MR. SPEAKER: The question whether THANAN (Tirunelveli): Mr. Speaker, Sir, he the law is implemented properly or not cannot is assaulting the contempt of the House. be seen by this House. (Interruptions) SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: -! am (Translation} not on law but on the Constitution.

SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: If they MR. SPEAKER: On the constitutionality themselves feel guilty, then what can I do .. of anything done in this House is also decided by the court. ( Inte"uptions) (/nte"uptions) [English} [Translation) MR. SPEAKER: He has not referred to the State Assembly. To that extent, I have SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. not allowed him. Speaker, Sir, we cannot leave on courts the responsibility of conducting this House and ( Inte"uptions) fuHiliing our responsibilities towards the Constitution. MR. SPEAKER: He is doing it in a very intelligent manner. If you want to do it in the [English] same Intelligent manner, I will allow you. Please take your seat. MR. SPEAKER: You can amend the Constitution if you like in whatever fashion (In te"uptions) you want. But once you have the Constitution, the interpretation of the Constitution is the {Translation} responsibility of the Supreme Court.

SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: -Sir, I Speaker, Sir, I have not mentioned any am not trying to interpret the Constitution. I name. I have not even referred to the name am saying, I have the fundamental right 0'--°-**. When I have not even reterred under the Constitution. (Interruptions) to his or her name, so why are you so much agitated? (Interruptions) SHRI M.R.KADAMBUR JANAR- Mr. Speaker, Sir .. we can go to the THANAN: Does the Constitution allow to court in caSe provisions of Article 226 are degrade to the dignity of the House? violated. (Interruptions) (Inte"uptions)

°Expunged as ordered by the Chair.

··Not recorded. 305 Written Answers VAISAKHA ·1, 1914 (SAKA). Written Answers 306 [ Translation1 solution can be found to such .... • .... :i55ues which have cropped up today, otherwise, if SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. such issues are taken to the courts without Speaker, Sir, I am not going to stretch this codification they will also say they do not dispute too far. (Interruptions) I am not want to have friction with the State going to argue here about the courts Assemblies and therefore, they cannot give (Interruptions) I know that you have no such you justice even though they want. Due to intention, but in view of the present situation this reason, it is for you and the Parliament in the country and particularly the attacks to play a role in this regard and while being made on journalism, as the Speaker . supporting them I would like to say that the of lok Sabha, it becomes your responsibility entire House should be concemed that the to safeguard the Constitution by intervening freedom of the Press is not curbed in any in these matters. I do not want to break the way. The journalists should have the freedom conventions of the House or to infringe the of expression and fulfill their duties with full rights of any State Assembly. But I condemn responsibility. the four-sided attack being made at the political level on the freedom of press and SHRI RABI SAY: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I reporting in newspapers. I want your want to raise a very Important Issue. I am in protection. great distress. I will not be able to say this. As you are in the chair, how can I say SHRILAl K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): w: .Aher the Parliament Is becoming Mr. Speaker, sir, Shri George Fernandes irrelevant today. But With great distress, I has raised a very important issue, but there am saying this to you that we debated the are some limitations about expressing views issue yesterday and Shri Atal ji and shri on it .. I also agree with what you have said George Fernandes also participated inil. It and what Shri George Fernandes has come out on the front page of all the understands. But it is also a fact that if there leading newspapers today that in regard to is any attack on Joumalism anywhere, this the decision of President Yelstin , the Russian House should be concerned about it and we Space Agency, Globe Cosmos,. has are one of them, who had suffered on announced in Moscow that- account of it. During emergency, the biggest blow to democracy was the attempt made to [English] curb the freedom of the Press and not the arrest of lakhs of people. In this matter, you • The decision to suspend transfer of have said that there is a provision that one rocket technology was taken under duress can approach the court: but you are also from US." aware that court has its own limitations and Mr. Speaker, sir, therefore, you are the only [ Translation] person who can take initiative in this matter. I am saying this, because it has been This issue is bring discussed for the said by a very responsible officer of the past few yeras. The reporters sitting in the Russian Government that - press gallery are not aware of their limitations. They are asked any time not to record this [English] orthat and due tothis reason, this issue has been raised here several times, which I US had threatened to impose trade would like to repeat today that in view of the sanctions on RUSSia if the contract signed in freedom of the Press, it is necessary to 1991 was not revoked." codify the jurisdictions ofthe Parliament and the State legislatures so that the rights and [ Translation] privileges are known to the people and for this you are the right person to take any Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are distressed, initiative. If the privileges are codified a because even though the discussion on the ··Not recorded. 307 Written AnswetS APRIL 21, 1992 Written Answers-308 External Affairs Ministry went on for the Sir, that is why I am requesting you that entire day, neither the Prime Minister nor before starting the discussion on Nagaland, the concerned Minister was present here .•.• please call the hon. Prime Ministerhere and he should explain the factual position while MR. SPEAKER: They were with the taking the people and the Parliament into President of Turkmenistan, who has come confidence. The Government has not yet on a visit. given any clarification regarding the Russian Government's announcement about taking SHRI RABI RAY: Mr. Speaker, Sir,l am this decision under duress from US. saying this, because this issue was Regarding our self-reliance in the field of discussed in the House yesterday also and space technology, I have said it yesterday the Government is giving It's final decision and again I am saying that we will have to today. Infact , Russia has been pressurized suspend our programme regarding "Agni·. on account of us it is our friend and it is in Mr. Speaker, Sir. you had been the Minister distress today. The way Soviet Russia has of State in the Ministry of Defence. That is been disintegrated. it has made them weak, why, I am saying that for the dignity of this but for us they immensely resisted the country, the Government should take the pressure put by US. Mr. Speaker, Sir, a Parliament and the people into confidence discussion on Nagaland is scheduled for and state what has happened actually. today and that is why, there can be no discussion on Extemal Affairs Ministry today. ( Interruptions) It was told by the hon. Minister yesterday that a delegation had been sent there. In SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. spite of a delegation being present there, Speaker, Sir. you said yesterday tbat you the Russian Govemment is taking such a will allow a discussion on the issue. decision. This decision to suspend transfer of rocket technology has been taken under [EngOsh) duress from United States. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the time is not far when trade sanctions SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: will also be imposed on us. Sir, when it has The Government should come out with a already been announced by Moscow, why statement. This is all we want. You should the Government is still silent. Is the help the House by requesting the Parliament not authorized to ask for an Government to come out with a statement answer from the Govemment? Will it take here. 3 days to give an asswer Mr. Speaker, Sir, it was nice that you allowed a 90 minute [TtaIls/ation] discussion on the issue yesterday, but what is the result? They are creating tension in SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: They this way and Ms. Carla Hills is threatening cannot. Please allow a discussion on this from US. It means that they are pressurizing issue. RUssia to keep us under duress and are saying • [English] [English]

Under duress from United States of MR. SPEAKER: Hyou sit quite, we will America. do it.

[ TtaIlslation] SHRJ NIRMAL KANll CHATTERJEE: What does this mean? Mr. Speaker, Please help. 309.WIiIlf'J AnswetS vAiSAKRA 1, 1914 ($AKA) Wniflen AnBwetS 310 [ TtanSIation) have conveyed to the han. Prime Minister the feelings 01 the House and what was SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: A mentioned here yesterday. The Prime separate discussion shoUld be held on Mlnlstar has agraed that he would make a this issue and it should be done in the Slat8mant. He wi! tak81ime you. Whatever presellCft of the Prime Minister. time from you fll( In consulalion with the Prime Minister, that will be good. He wi. ( /ntBmJptions) make the statement afterconsuhing you for the tina. (1nIBnupIions) He should admit it. MR. SPEAKER: Anytime can be given ( Interruptions) according to his convenience. SHRI lAl K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, afterthediscussion which (/ntemJptions) was held yesterday, we expected that the hon. Prime Minister will himsel [Translation) come and give details to the House. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: But I MR. SPEAKER: I said that the would like 10 make a request, keeping in President of Turkmenistan had come mind the fact that under the rules, we have fora visit. no right to raise questions, once a statement is made. You yourself had accepted the SHRILAl K. ADVANI: The Minister of gravilyofthe situation and admitted that this State could have made a statement and issue is not limited only upto defence, given the details in this regard. We Went rockets or technology transfer; rather it has concerned on the basis of newspaper reports wide ramifICations IncUingthe hegemonistic and you allowed a discussion for about an tendencies of the U.S.A. The economic hour on the issue. You also did not have the· pressure being put on this country and the information then and you said that you do American one upmanship which is evident not have the information, except that a across the world today. Therefore, it is my Secretary has been sent there. request to you that the House should take up this Issue separately for ( Interruptions). disCllSSion.(Jnt8lrUplions)

But they should, at least, inform us [Englis~ today. MR. SPEAKER: Yeslerday, Iwas asked: [English] How can it be raised? There are rulas under which it can be raised. Under Rule 184, Rule MR. SPEAKER: But there are no 193, il can be raised. We can ask the occasions. Immediately after the Question Minister to make a statement and on that Hour, we started with this unlisted business. statement you all can speak. That is one of the courses which can be adopted. Nowthat SHRllAl K ADVANI: There ought to we have adopted this course of raising it, I have been a statement on this particular am saying that I the House is informed subject about the factual position, immediately after that you can discuss. You are going to MR. SPEAKER: I think, yesterday he discuss the Demands for Grants of the said that he would convey - the sentiments. Ministry 01 External Affairs. You can speak . in that. I have also said that if you are not THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE satisfied with the reply given and if all the MINISTRYOFEXTERNAlAFFAIRS(SHRI hOn.leaders give it in writing 10 me that you EDUARDO FAlEIRO): Mr. Speaker, Sir,I want to discuss it, we will certainly find time 311 Written Answers APRil 21, 1992 Written Answers 312 for it. But we shall have to follow the rules. Jayawardene has blamed India forthe LTTE consolidation. In the Patriot, it has been (Interruptions) mentioned like this: "India blamed for l TTE Consolidation. 'This was given by the former [Translation] President Shri Jayawardence. Recently. our Prime Minister has stated that the Indian SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: We Govemment is seriously conSidering to ban accept that but you should respond to the the l TIE. Now, it is time forthe Government issue perlaining 10 ths newspaper reports of India to declare that it has banned the that we had raised here. Please say LTIE. They say: ·We do not want to taka something within the parametres of the action on our younger brother.' This is constitution. wrong. They say it is a simple mistake. We want that the Sri lankan Tamils and the MR. SPEAKER: Please don't ask the Sinhalese should live as brothers. There is Speaker to speak every time. Aithough he is no contradiction in that. It is the duty of the known by the term Speaker, it is not pro~r Central Govemment to ban the l TIE after for him to speak more than necessary. " he Shri Premadasa has declared that he has speaks more, it will create problems. virtually ruled out the €Xtradition ot Prabhakaran, the prime accused in the case SHRI RABI RAY: To whom shall we go of Shri Rajiv Gandhi's assassination. Since then? Sri Lanka has conveyed contradictory Signals. the Central Govemment must take MR. SPEAKER: I will make the a decision quickly to ban the LTIE. necessary arrangements, even without your asking for it. With these words, I thank you forgiving me the opportunity. (Interruptions) SHRI K. V. THANGKABALU (Dharam [English] puri); Mr. Speaker. Sir, I share with the sentiments expressed by the hen. Member SHRI M.R.KADAMBUR who has raised this issue. This is a very JANARTHANAN: Sir, through you,l want to important issue. The Government of India is draw the attention ofthe Central Government very much aware that the LTIE is connected to a title news appeared in all the papers in connection with the murder 01 our great today. The title of the news is: " Premadasa leader the late Shri Rajiv Gandhi. The rules out Prabhakaran extradition·. It says: Govemment of Shri Lanka has openiycome out with this reported statement.·· This is "Sri lanka President Ranasinghe not an ordinary matter. Premedasa virtually ruled out the extradition of L TTE leader V. Prabhakaran and the rebel group's We, therefore, urge upon tna intelligence chief Pottu Amman wanted Government that the Government must by India in connection with the come out with a statement in tt>is matter assassination former Prime Minister stating what steps the Government is going Rajiv Gandhi, news reports said to take in this matter. The Govemment must today ..... come forward with the statement and ban the LTIE immediately. That is the only way. The other way is that the extradition of The news report says so. This is quite Prabhakaran is a must. The Government a contradictory news to the previous news should take immediate steps and inlormthe given by the Shri lankan Govemment. They people of this country 'in this regarcf.-The are further attacking India. In a function, the Government must not allow any culprit to go former President of Shri Lanka Shri scotlree. "Expunged as ordered by the Chair 313 Written Answers VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 314 SHRI ATAl BIHARI money back due to delaying tactiCS of the VAJPAYEE(Lucknow): Sir, did you notice KCP limited. As the House also knows that what the hon. Member has said? He accused KCP Limited is a big business magnet having the Govemment of Sri lanka of being huge resources and earning huge profits at Involved In the assassination of Shri Rajiv the expense of hard working farmers of Gandhi.. Krishna District. Recently, the accumulated Reserve Fund of Rs. 36 cror, earned out of MR. SPEAKER: If it is there, I will a the profits of the KCP Sugar Factory by remove it from the record. withdrawing and diverting to Madras -based factOfies is only to harass the farmers who SHRI ATAl BIHARI VAJPAYEE: We have supplied sugarcane. Their only have friendly relations with Sri LanKa and intention is to cheat the innocent farmers by such a statement should not lightly b'G mau..., avoiding payment of interest for this six (Interruptions) months period on Rs. 42 crores worth of sugarcane supply during these five months. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Rosera): That is why I asked whether he is a Minister Despite the elected Government at or a Member. (interruptions) Centre and the State, Ihe unorganised sectors of India are not getting justice in MR.SPEAKER: Iwililookintoitandwe spite of several legislations, ruies, regulations will take appropriate action. I do think that etc., made at the State and the Central level we should not accuse anybody like this. for safeguarding the interest of farmers. I, therefore, request, thugh you, the (lnterruptionsj Government of India to send a team of Secretaries and Income-tax Intelligence MR. SPEAKER: If it is there, we will see officials to take all the statistics for the last that it does not form part of the record. ten years and probe how this Reserve Fund is created and diverted elsewhere, depriving (Interruptions) the share -holders of KCP Limited Vuyyuru and sugarcane growers of Ihat area. I hope SHRI K.P. REDDAIAH YADAV that a genuine fact finding team will be sent ,Machilipatanam): Sir, the sugarcane by the Government of India, not only to : 1wers of Krishna District, Andhra Pradesh, assess the sufferings of farmers but also ,,' .) are known for the hard work and hundreds and thousands and thousands of :;:,'c:ressive farming, are in a very pathetic workers who are cheated and kepi as"casual '; .:.!ition despite the supply of nearly ten laboures for the past 15 years. This may be iI"h metric tonnes of sugarcane to the KCP treated as warning to the administration L'T'i!",d Factory at Vuyyuru, right from who are always surrendeing to the sugar i. ;':,~1mber 1991 to 20th April, 1992. Till business lobbies to deprive the innocent :"j,.', their dues towards the supply of and unorganised sectors of this country. ',. :,;",':::a",e were not received since it was rC :' .id by the management of the KCP [Translation] L!f-,~·!r-1j. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. ~ nne side, the KCP has fixed a low Speaker, Sir, I would like to draw your price 0: ;';s. 425 per metric tbnne for 11 per attention towards a very serious issue. A cent r::::overy rate whereas their serious situation has emerged following fires counler'.';ai!S In Uttar Pradesh and in the eastern part of Uttar Pradesh. Scores Mah?ras~i:l hav" fixed a price of Rs. 500 per of people have lost their lives, thousands of tonne forlc,vc'than 11 percent recovery. In animals have perished and many villages addition to :;'a\, tney are not getting the have got destroyed in the process. The 315 Written Answe,. APRIL 21, 1892 Written Answets 316 Uttar Pradesh Govemment Is not able to despatched telegrams tothe Centre, but the provide adequate relief with Its limited stan are continuing with their Illegal strke. I resources. The devasration and havoc repraS8nt the Rajkot constituency In the caused is grave and more serious than House, and In that capacity, I would like to those caused by droughts or earthquakes. draw your attention towards the seriousness Thousands of people have lost their klttu of the situation there. Already the telephone and kin and have been rendered horneless. services are unsatisfactory as the machinery Under the circumstances, I request the Is 25 years old and to add to the woes of the Union Government to send a team to Uttar subacrlbers, the telephone staff have gone Pradesh to estimate the damage aooprovlde for a strke. People have made several relief to the affected people. Those who appeals and l8pr8S8ntatlons, bUt to no avail. have lost all their belongings should be The G.t.4. and the Dy.G."'. al8 answerable provided assistance to the tune of As. 700 to the public but they do not pay any attention to As. 1,000/-. Those who have lost their to the grievances of the people. The Dy. children, women and elders should be G.M. had completed 10-12 years of his provided with a minimum assistance of Rs. service there and has not yet been one lakh. Free assistance shouid be provided transferred from there. There has to people who have lost their cattle. The alreadybean a C.B.!. Inquiry against him. State, Government is not in a position to The Income tax department also conducted render any aid, until and unless the centre a raid at his place and seized Rs.25Iakh .... takes some Intiatlve in this regard. Thus, a serious situation has arisen in eastern Uttar MR. SPEAKER: You are crossing the Pradesh. I wouid like- to make a special limits, now please sit down. request that the Union Govemment should despatch a team to study the situation and SHRI SHIVLAL NAGJIBHAI inform the House of the Central assistance VE ,KARIA: The loss Is estimated at crores to be provided to the people to face this of Rupees, It is an essential service .... natural calamity. MR. SPEAKER: The Issue of transfer SHRI SHIV LAL NAGJIBHAI VEKARIA cannot be raised on the floor of the House. (Rajkot): Mr. Speaker, Sir, telephone is an You were speaking so well, but by raising essential service in this modem age. Some the transfer issue, you spoiled It all. people in Rajkot went to give a memorandum to the General Manager and Deputy ( Interruptions) Man ager of the local telephone office. Some arguments took place at the meeting, as a MR. SPEAKER: By raising the Issue of result of which the G.M. and the Dy. GMGM transfer, you spoiled the grace and dignity of along withtheirentire staff went on a lightning your statement. Please you to understand strike and 50,000 telephones in the city what I am saying, because whatever I say Is have been affected. Newsitems pertaining in your interest. The moment you raised the to this have appeared in various newspapers. transfer issue, everything got spoiled. They went on a strike, without giving any prior information to the public. This strikes (Interruptions) has crippled all the essential services including Fire Station and hospitals. Two SHRISHIVLALNAGJIBHAI V~RIA: people died of heart attack, and many I had just given a reference. I wO!iid like to cattle heads were perished in a fire because say two things. I was a Member at the Ninth the Fire Brigades could not be contacted Lok Sabha also, but to date my ~ame Is not dueto the strike. Many associations including there In the local directory. Sjmllarly, the the Rajkot Engineering Association and the names of all the Me~rs frorn SaiJrashtra Rajkot Engineering Association and the are also missing from the dir8ctory. Rajkot Chamber of Commerce convened several meetings In thf district and also MR. SPEAKER: Plea~ take yourseai: 317 Written Answers VAISAKHA1, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 318 You are misusing the precious time of the position what we are doing, I would like to . House. You should have properly utilised It know from the Minister. , but you are misusing it. I am sorry to say that you are not following the rules. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA(Madhubani): I support what my friend Shrl Chandra Jeet (Interruptions) Yadav has said. BMldes that,lt is a question of our own national Interest and peace Inthe SHRISHIVLALNAGJIBHAIVEKARIA: whole West Asia and South Asia. Under the I would like to say only this much that this grab of UN Intervention for maintaining matter should be investigated peace, the fundamentalist elements on the Afghanistan Issue have gone on proceeding (Interruptions) in their own way. It looks as If one side had been bound hand and foot and the other MR. SPEAKER: Atthe beginning itself, side has been proceeding. It will have effect I had said that I wi!1allow only one Member on our environment, on our safety. I would to speak. Please don't lower the prestige of like to know whether the Government of the House and spoil the atmosphere. India, particularly when India is a member of the Security Council, is taking into account [English] as to whether the UN Is being misused as a Burkha for the fundamentalists to come to SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV power in Afghanistan to the detriment of our (Azamgarh): Sir, as the Minister of State for own interest. External Affairs is here. I would like to know whether he would liketo appraise this House. SHRI JASWANT SINGH (Cittorgarh): I about the latest sltuatuation In our just wish to place It on record that even neighborlng country that is Afghanistan though a full-fledged discussion is now in particulalry about the farmer President of progress, we have had occasion yesterday Afghanistan, Mr. Najibullah and his security to express our very great concern about the and safety. Because It appeared in the situation in Afghasnlstan. The principal newspapers that while he planned to leave concern that this House, this Government his country, he was planning to go via India and indeed all the Members have is the and all the arrangements were made also safeguarding of India's national interest. here in Delhi to receive him. He had to go Personalities are transitory. I had yesterday back from the airport because he was also appealed to the Government that it is prevented to fly out of the country. The latest not aquestion of personalities; in the situation position is that because of the intervention . that is prevailing in Afghanistan what is the of UN representatives perhaps now he had Government of India doing to safeguard been allowed to leave the country safely. I India's national Interests. That isthe question would like to know whether the Government that has already been raised and it Is: my of India has got any information about that. expectation that the Government will come forward forth-rightly and catogorlcally about Another thing is that the former the aspect of safeguarding India's national Afghanistan Ambassador In India has also interests when Afghanistan is fast heading sought the help from the Government of for a situation almost of a civil war, clvllstrlfe Indiaforhis security and protection. I would there. That is the principal concern. like .to know that position also from the Minister of State for External Affairs. (Interruptions)

What is the latest development In [Translation] Afghanistan? India had played a role. India hada very friendly relation with Afghanistan. SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI (Robertsganj): ~ is our neighbouring country. Pakistan is Mr: Speaker, Sir, all of them have been supposed to play a role there. In this latest speaking for long. Why don't you allow us to 319 Written Answets APRIL 21, 1992 WrlIten Answets 320 speak? Something very outragreus had honour of their women. If such Incidents are taken place in my constituency Ingnored, this country wiD be destroyed. All .... (Interruptions) those persona who are employed there and go to perform their duty In those areas, MR. SPEAKER:A1ltlght, you may speak. molest the Harljan and Adivasl women. Through you, I want to state that the lirms SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI: Mr. Speaker, of the members of these rapists' families Sir, everyone talks about the adivasi region should also be broken, so that they might of Jharkhand but a grave atrocity was also learn some lesson. The victims should committed on the people of that area on be given Immediate assistance. Through April, 3 1992. you,l would like to urgethatthe Govemment should manage food etc. for the victims of Sir, five or six forest guards gangaped attrocltles and pay proper compensation to Phulwa, a 14 year old innocent adivasi girl them and apprehend the culprits of this belonging to the Ghasia tribe. She is the incident and take action against them daughter of one Shankar and is a resident of ... (Ir.:erruptions) village Kharpather, Police Station Pipri, Chowki Renukoot, DistrictSonbhadra, Uttar SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Mr. Pradesh. Speaker, Sir, this Is not the case of a particularstate. Butwe have been observing I have got the relevant information and for the last few days, that the Incidents of also the photographs, but when in the attrocities have again Increased against the morning of the 4th herfather Shankar went downtrodden, the adivasls and the weaker to the Renukoot Police Post to lodge a sections of the society. But no action is Report, the police refuced to register it. being taken against the culprits. However, when he went there again accompanied by an advocate on 8.4.92 an Mr. Speaker, Sir, you had allowed a F.I.R. was registered. Then she was sent to discussion on the Tsundur Incident for 16 a Doctor in Sonbhadra district. However, hours in this House. Some days earlier, ten she was not provided any treatment there. thousand people had gathered at the Boat Then she was sent to the Mirzapur Distriict Club. They demanded only this much as to Hospital. Although her condition was serious, why all the culprits have been set free. This shewas not attended to. Today, the adivasis happened at 10 a.m. Shri Reddy is siUing of Uttar Pradesh are dying of starvation, but here. We have demanded a CBI enquiry into the State Government is not able to feed the whole matter. Rape and murder cases them. The police officers or the Station have become the order of the day and in Incharge or Doctors are perpetuating these some places people are being burnt alive. inhuman atrocities on these starved people, Thus, an atmosphere of resentment is for they are aware of their helplessness. spreading all over the country. I am not lhrough you, I would like to make a. talking about a particular State. This is the. submission and I shall also be sending the responSibility of the Central Government. h details of the Incident to the hon. Minister is monitored by the Ministry of Home Affr.:lirs that a C.I.D. inquiry be ordered into this of the Govemment of India. I would 1P't

[English] SHRI RAM NAG INA MISRA (Padrauna): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE our coll6,ague Shrl Mohan Singh, I too had MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI given a notice. The condition of the Distt. EDUARDO FALEIRO): Sir, in view of the Deorla Is so miserable that even today, the concern expressed by honorable Members poorest o.f the poor live there, it is the regarding situation in neighbouring and poorest are,a and most of the people live in friendly country of Afghanistan, though the huts. ' debate Is on, if you permit me, I will share with the honourable House whatever 13.02 hr.. information Is available with me. [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the MR. SPEAKER: Will It not be proper If Cha/ll It is with the debate? Not here now. You will be surprised to know of ( Interruptions) unprecedented incidents of village after village catching firedurlngthe normal process MR. SPEAKER: That would be in the of cooking food. Scores of persons have fit1'it'ss 01 trdngs. been burnt to death in this way. On behalf of the State Government Rs. 1750 are given (Interruptions) to each o,f those parsons whose houses MR. $,::cAKER: It becomes all irregular. have been bumt, and Rs. 10,000 are given SiJppij-:'lng ron makes the statement; you to each o,f the families of deceased in the want to SJi sf)mething, form of assistance. Till now more than fifty persons have been killed there but the [ Interruptions) situation cannotimprove in this way. Through you, I want to urge upon the Central MR. ~~:;)CAKER: As a matter of fact, Governmentthat It should formulate a similar ''1htr. WI> :,'." ;:.i:ic:Jsslng the External Affairs plan as it had formulated In the past under ivfinl~ry Itso,f, such a matter should have \\/hlch a provision was made to provide been ()'scussad at that time Itself. rnsidentlal accommodation costing from Rs. 6 000/· to Rs. 8000/- for the people living \ interruptions) below the poverty 'Une. The Central G ;overnment should provide grants to the {Trant/atior'.! puople who are living In straw-huts for CC Instructing pucca houses. The Central SHRI RAMDEW RAM (Palamau): Mr. ar ld the State Govemments should share Speaker, Sir.. S lrib;;,;f, ... ere brutally killed on thl t cost of construction equally. This will 12.4.92In the Vi:1aga Pesta a blockchandwa pr. tvent fire in the villages in future as 323 Wt1tten Answets APRIL 21, 1992 Papers LaId ~4 hundreds of villages have been burnt and necessary that such an essential IndustrY more than fifty persons have been killed In should run on profit lines, Just like public these fire. The recent events haWiengraved distribution of foodgralns, It Is public .the situation too much. I, therefore, request cIstrIbutIon of rnedIcaI ald. I may also mention thatthe Central Government should provide assistance in collaboration with the State here that the workers are ready to sign a Governments to the poor who are living memorandumofunderstandlng, to convince belowthe poverty line, forconstruc:tlng pua:a that full cooperation Is forthcoming. houses. Therafore Government should retrad from the BFR Investigation and give suitable [Eng~h] grants to this Industry so that it can continue to run smoothly. SHRI MANABENDRA SHAH (Tehrl Gamwal): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I bring to your kind notice that a public sector undertaking In my backward constituency of Tehrl Garhwal, namely, the indian Drugs 13.0& hrs and pharmaceuticals Limited is threatened with closure. This is a mother unit which PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE feeds bulk drugs to multinationals, private sector and small sector entrepreneurs. Detailed Demands for grants of the MInistry of Environment and Forests This public sector undertaking for 1992-93 manufactures life savings drugs for treatment of serious diseases, like TB, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE malaria. leprosy and forfamily planning. etc. ltalso manufactures raw materlalsforsupply MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS to the private and multinational drug AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE manufacturing companies. Under these MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND circumstances. It cannot be clubbed with COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARAJAN other Industries like engineering, textiles KUMARAMANGLAM) On behalf of Shri etc. - Kamal Nath,l beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Detailed Demands for Grants (Hindi The drug prices are fDeed by the Ministry and English versions) of the Ministry of of Chemicals and Fertilisers and are not Environment and Forests forUIe year 1992- remunerative to IDPL. The drug prices are not fixed by the IDPl. 93. [Placed In Lbrary See. No. Ll'. 1800/ 92] , Under these circumstances, It Is _unfortunate that this company Is being Detailed Demands for Grants of the referred to BIFR. If that exercise takes Ministry of Information and place, It would be prelude to stopping all Its Broadcasting for 1991-93 financial grants and programmes and would _. ultimately lead to the closure of the IDPL THE MINISTER OF STI,TE OF THE factory. The closure of this factory will also MINISTRY OF INFORMATIO"~ AND lead to a mass retrenchment of its highly BROADCASTING (SHRI AJIT P4NJA): I skilled employees. beg to lay on the Table a copy of h, Detailed Demands for Grants (Hindi alid English Therefore, I request that the versions) of the Ministry of InfoFmation and Govemment shouldprovJde suitable finance Broadcasting for the year 199~_' 3. [Placed as working capital to the IDPL It is not In Library See No. LT. 1801~2] -/ 325 Papers LlIkI VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Govt. Alsutances 326 Comm. _Repott Annual Report and RwIR on the 01 the Dental Councl of india for working of the HlnduatM Latex the year 1990-91. Umlted, TrlvlUldrum for 111O-111U1d the rueon. for delay In laying t ..... (4) A statement (Hindi and English pape .. etc. versions) showing reasons for delay In laying the papers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mentioned at (3) above. [placed in MINISTRY OF PARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Lbrary Sse No. LT. 1803192) AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND 13.07 ...... COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRIRANGARAJAN KUMARAMANGLAM) On behalf ofShrimatl COMMITTEE ON THE WELFARE OF D.K. Tharadevl Slddharth~, f beg to lay on SCHEDULED CASTES AND the Table- SCHEDULED TRIBES

[English) (1) A copy each of the following papers (Hindi and English versions) under Second Report sub-section (1) of section 6194 of the Companies Act, 1956:- SHRI K. PRADHANI (Nowrangpur): I (i) Review by the Government on the beg to present the Second Report (Hindi working of the Hlndustan latex and English versions) of the Committee on Llmted, Trivandrum, for the year the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and 1990-91. Scheduled Tribes on Action Taken by government on the recommendations (iI) Annual Report of the Hindustan contained in their Sixth Report (9th Lok Latex Limited, Trivandrum, for the Sabha) on the Ministry of Civil Aviation year 1990-91 along with Audited Reservation for the Employment of Accounts and Comments of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in comptroller and Auditor General Indian Airlines. thereon. 13.071/2 hra. (2) A statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT delay in laying the papers ASSURANCES mentioned at Q) above.[Placed in l.ibrary Sse No. LT. 1802192) Third Report

(3) (i) A copy of the Annual Report [ Translationl (Hindi and English versions) of the Dental Council of Indiaforthe DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA ~Iear 1990-91 along with Audited (Mandsour) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg AlXOunts. topresenUhe Third Report (Hindi and English versions) of the committee on Government (Ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi Assurances. and' English versions) by the Govetmment on the working 327 Matters Under APRIL 21,1992 Ru1e377 328 MAneRS UNDER RULE 3n India at the cheapest rate while In their own countries, the seiling price there of Is more (I) Need to ral.. thalmport duty on than double In comparison with the Iftl)Ort PVCtothalevalofotherPolymer price to india. So, I raquest the Finance commodltleato p..... budget leval Minister to raise the Import duty on PVC equal to the other polymer commodities at (English] the pre-Budget level.

SHRI R. DHANUSKODI ATHITHAN (II) Need to chalk out a ahort tarun (Tiruchendur): The PVC manufacturing unns 'Taj Maul Renewal project are major units In India which provide under a Coordinated authority. employment to thousands of people In our country. In my constituency, the DCW SHRI K.V,. THANGKABALU (Damgdara Chemicals Works) Is the only (Dharmapuri):ThepoormalntenanceofTaj major Industry which provides employment Mahal has dlscounaged tourists from all to more than 5,000 people directly and overthe WOrld. The Archaeloglcal Survey of Indirctly. They are planning to go in for India, the Agra Munllcipality and the Agra expansion which will give a proposed Cantonment Board can be said to be employment to nearly 1000 people. In the responsible for the d·ecline of the fame of current year's Budget, the Import duty on the Mughal area mOnUllTl8nt. There Is lack of PVC has been reduced by 40 percent, while drinking water, shopping complex facility. the Import duty on other polymer Even hygienic food Is not available. The commodities was not changed. Due to this area Is littered with garblage and crowded by 40 per cent cut In Import duty, the trading hawkers and beggars. 'There are no guide house Iftl)orted large quantities of PVC posts around. The monument of eternal which affects the Indigenous companies love itseH I,s yellowed by pollutants especially particulars the DCW Ltd. Where more than suphurlc emiSSions from the factories three months stocks are accumulated and around. The Ministries 0 f Tourism, Railways, the company will be on the verge of closure Defense and human Resource Development Hthis trend continues. The reduction on the who are jointly concerned try to shift the customs duty on PVC has indirectly helped responsibility of provildlng facilities like the trading house abroad and their agents In drinking water, clea n r,oads, clean railway India atthe cost of the smooth working of the station, parking lots and good hotels and for Indigenous units. After the customs duty not clearing the place frol'l'I hawkers, beggars reduction on PVC, the Indlgenouscommodity and hoodlums. The su rf~ce Image of the Is Rs. 2000 less than the Imported goods per domes and mlnars of Tuj Mahal can stili be tonne which Is detrimental to the smooth preserved Ha statutory b an on all Industries running of Indigenous units. coming up within 30 Kms vicinity Is Imposed. I, therefore, urge upo n the Central In spite of the Commerce and Government to chalk out al'ld implement a Petrochemicals Ministries' short term Taj Mahal Renew,ll Project under recommendations to raise the Import duty the a coordinated authority. on PVC to the pre-Budget level, the Finance Ministry Is just delaying to safeguard our " (III) Need to set up ,coac h repairing Indigenous PVC manufacturing units In the workshop at Niemon' Railway name of Dunkel policy. It Is pertinent that the Station near Trlvandru~m Government should be aware that the developed countries dumped the PVC In SHRIA. CHARLES(Trivandrum,\;There 329 Matters Under VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Rule 377 330 was a proposal for starting a coach repairing Report of the project. On the basis of the yard In Trlvandrum in the southem Railway feasbility Report, the Danish Government and the necessary land was acquired near has sanctioned energy worth Rs. 6 crore the Nemom Railway Station. Even though two years back forthe implementation of the several years have passed the project has raport and energy would not be utilised In not so far been started. Since the land was the absence of the sanction of gas supply. lying vacant and as there was possibility of The Danish Government Is ready to provide It being occupied by squatters, It was necessaryfunds forthls project. The Danish terJl)Orarily used for social forestry. In view Minister for Industry and energy revealed it of the Inordinate delay caused In the during his tour to Agra. As the gas has not Implementation of the project the people of been supplied, this project has been kept In that area are agitated over this. The abeyance, percentage of Central Investment In Kerala Is the lowest, being a little more that I per I, therefora, urge upon the government cent. Under the circumstance It Is requested of Uttar Pradesh to Issue tile letter of Intent that the hon. Railway Minister may please to provide natural gas for this project and get the matter looked Into so as to start the Inform the Danish Government accordingly coach repairing yard at Nemom without any so that project work may be expedited. further delay. (v) Need to set up low power T.V. (Iv) Need to Issue letter of Intent to transmitters In some towns of Uttar Prad.sh for laying the HImachal Prad ••h. plpelln. for supply of natural gas through H.B.J. plpelln. PROF. PREM DHUMAL (Hamlrpur): Due to geographical conditions many parts [ Translation] of Himachal Pradesh ara not covered by Doordarhan programmes. Some villages SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR ara located behind high mountains, Since .RAWAT(Agra): In the year 1989, the thera ara no transmitters, people living In Government of India had assured the Uttar backward and hili areas are being deprived Pradesh State Development Corporation of of Doordarshan programmes. The the Uttar Pradesh Government to supply Government has time and again been natural gas through the H.B.J. pipeline. The announcing that It Is keen to provide Corporation had to lay the pipeline for the Doordarshan facilities to the hill, backward supply of natural gas through the H.B.J. and border areas. Despite repeated written pipeline to Kanpur, !tawa, Bareilly, Khurja. requests. no low power transmitter has Ghazlabad, Shlkohabad, Ferozabad, Agra, been Installed In such areas of Hamlrpur, Mathura and the TaJ trapezium area so that Una, Mandl, Bllaspur and Kangra distracts the Industries located In these areas might of Himachal Pradesh. have adequate quantity of energy; power stations Oldy be set up and the ecologICal Iwoulll urge thlCi Cdntral Government to pollution might be outdone and Industrial Install low power transmitters at the following development may take place there. places:

With the collaboration of the company (1) Teehra of Sujanpurtown In Hamlrpur "Davida" of the government of Denmark the district; Uttar Pradesh State Development Corporation has prepared the feasibiliting (2) Solah Slngl Dhar on the bor.ders of 331 Matters Under APRil 21, 1992 Ru1e377 332 (prof. Prem Dhumaij Therefore, I would like to urge the Government to set up , at least two gas Hamlrpur and Una distinct; basedpowerplantssoastomakeBlharfuUy capable In power generation. (3) Awah Devl, on the borders of Mandl and Hamlrpur districts; (viI) Need to ..nd a central team to review the working of ••If· (4) Aashpuri and Khudlan In Kangra; employment Scheme In Jahanbad parliamentary (5) Revalsar In Mandl district; Conatituency. Bihar

(6) Near Nalna Devlin Biiaspur. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH (Jahanabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the 13.00 hra. Cennl Government Is launching a self- employment scheme so as to provide (vi) Need to ..up gaa baled power efY1)loymentto unemployed educated youth plants In Bihar In the country. Crores of rupees have been spent on self-employment scheme In SHRIMATI GIRIJA DEVI (~aharaJ Jahanbad Parilamentary constituency of Ganl): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Not only Bihar. The schemes are approved as per that Bihar Is lagging behind in power the wishes of the beneficiaries. Bank officials generation butalsothe powarsupplysltuatlon are making cash payrnenttothe beneficiaries In the State Is deplorable . The power In violation of the rules, due to this no genration targets and acutal generation Industry Is coming up practically. The money figures themselves give an account of the Is spent on domestic needs thus giving rise dismal position. The position of Small state to unemployment. That Is why the self- Uee Haryana and Punjab which are not employment scheme has not become even producing coal Is much better. Last yearthe one per cent successful in Jahanabad estimated power generation capacity In Bihar Parliamentary Constituency. was 4438 megawatts while actual generation was only 2971 megawatt,. The estimated I would urge the Central Government to power generation targets In Deihl, Haryana sent a Central ~aam to review the working of and Punjab are 6440, 3510 and 10118 self-employment scheme in Jahanabad megawatts respectively. " we look at the PariiarnentaryConstltuency, detect the flaws estimated figures of power generation In and take stringent steps to check them. other States, It would be seen that In no other State the positions as dismal as It Is In (vIII) Need to Increase the amount of Bihar. It is ridiculous that this dispartity Is freedom fighter'. pension noticed in the number one coal producing State like Ihat of Bihar. Today thE< 1,;.;lual SHRI ARVIND TUlSHIRAM KAMBlE position Is that more than 75 per cent (Osmanabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the populace in the state lives In darkness and pension for freedom fighters had Initially no factory could be set up there for want of been fixed at Rs. SOO per month which was power. Even the available resources are not later raised to As. 7SO. The Increase was in properly exploited. Due to these reasons recognition of their service to nation. It Is Bihar Is contlnously lagging behind In power also symbol of respect for the freedom generation. fighters. ~ Matters UndIIr VAI~KHA 1,1914 ($AKA) Ru1s377 334

SInce prices have again gone 80 high, have been trying to meet the Hon. Speaker. It Is not possible for them to sustain· He just says, • You' are a senior themselves with SUCh. a small amount. Therefore,lrequestthalthelrpenslonshould [ Translation) be Increased to a minimum of As. 12501- per months. This Increase Is very essential for Should the senior member be Ignored them since they have become very old and and not heard? they donlhave any other80urce of income. Besides, the Increase has also become In thai case IwHl notcouseto Parliament inevitable In view of the fact that prize money payable to social workers and other [English] such people have also been increased. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The office Therefore I would urge the government . will take care of It. to consider the matter deeply.

13.20 hrs SHRI GOVINDA CHANDRA MUNDA: Please consider this. [English]

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes, Shrf MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House Govinda Chandra Munda? stands adjourned for lunch to meet at 2.2S.P.M. again SHRI GOVINDA CHANDRA MUNDA (Keonjhar): Sir, I am on a point of order. It 13.20 hrs. appears that my questions are not at all acceptable to this House. Not many hon. The Laic Sabha then adjomed for Lunch Members are prosent now. till Twentry-five minutes past FourtHn of the Clock. I have given notices for so many questions but not even a sigle question has come so far. Why? Neither starred, nor unstarred, not even a single question has been admitted. I have been trying to ask [ Translation] questions. Have I not got a right to out a 'question in Parliament? I had given notices Should the senior member be Ignored of so many questions but your officers are and not hard? . ··;~':I'dding you.

[ Transi.;.tion] In that case) will not couse to parlia- ment.

f\4R. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You may The Laic Sabha re-assembled after Lunch please meet the hon. Speaker at thirty minutes past FourtHn of thB Clock [English] [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER In'thB SHRIGOVINDACHANDRAJ,AUNDA: I Chat" 335 Demands for Grants . APRIL 21, 1992 Min. of Ext. Affairs 336 (Gen.), 1992-93 DEMANDS FOR GRANTS by what tlma this discussion will end (GENERAL) 1992-93 -CONTED tomorrow

Ministry of External Affairs - THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CONTED MINISTRYOFEXTERNALAFFAIRS(SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO): Sir, the Prime [Eng/ish] Mlnlsterwlll Intervene and he will reply to the questions which are raised yesterday and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, the today In the House. But, more likely time remaining at our disposal Is two hours tomorrow. h does not look like today. fifty five minutes and we have consumed three hours and five minutes. There Is also SHRI E. AHAMED (Manjerl): Sir, there sufficiently a big list of speakers. Those was an assurance by the Minister of Members who get the chance to speak may Parliamentary Affairs that he will make a kindly strict to the timings. statement on extradition of Mr. Anderson of Union Carbide of Bhopal (Interruptions);

SHRI JASWANT SINGH (Chmorgarh) MR. SPEAKER: Let usgotothe subject. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with your permiSSion, I would like to ask one or two ( Interruptions) clarifications. The first Is this decision about taking up Nagaland discussion today. It was SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (Bankura): the decision of the Business Advisory There was an assurance by the Minister of Committee of which I too am a Member. In Parliamentary Affairs that Government will consequence the casualty Is the Ministry of ma~e a statements on extradition of Mr. External Affairs and the Demands for Grants Anderson. We would like to know what of the Ministry of Extemal Affairs. At 3.00 Initiative the Government has taken on that. P.M. This Statutory Resolution has to be Secondly, when voting on Nagaland will taken up. We have barely consumed about take place -whether It Is today or tomorrow. half the time allotted for discussion on the of External Affairs. There are two panding MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Let us see. Issues which relate to the Ministry of Extemal We have got come time before us. Now, I Affairs. Firstly, this assurance given by the call Sudhlr Saw ant. government that. they will come forward with a statement on the question of ISRO. If the SHRI SUDHIR SAW ANT (Rajapur) Mr. House could be Informed whether that Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the statmant Is coming up today or It Is expected DemandforGrant ofthe Ministry of External tomorrow ,It will facilitate the matters beCi"\use Affairs. thedisc(,:;sion on Nagaland in likelyr. .. - -,1"1 till 8.00 ~. IA. The second point reall,. ." ·.e Ye;t ... rrlay dUI j'l~ the discussion, 'Shri Intervl:lliliOn by the Prime Minister bel.." .,a Indrajit ... ,...,la said 'j ,e: ship of foreign policy It will facilitate matters and it will en .... · .. ;:; has :" _. mooring. Other hon. Members parties to organise their membership and communted like Shrl Jaswant Singh, that presence of membership better. It would be the report of External Affairs Is outdated. It better if we could be informed as to whether is taken out ot the dustbin. Now, I disagree the Prime Minister is intervening in this with Shrllndrajit Gupta about the ship without discussion and when he Is Intervening. It is mooring. But I may tend to agree that the to be tomorrow natrually. We should know report may be outdated. But what Is the 337 Maners Under VAISAKHA 1.1914 (SAKA) Min. of E)(I Affairs 338 (Gen.). 1992-93 reason why It Is outdated. that you must see. period of Jawaharlalji. of Indiraji, of Rajivji What Is the background In which this report when the world listened to with rapt attention has been framed? That Is what we have to when India spoke. see. Foreign Policy. after all,ls the instrument We have been witness to momentous of furthering your national interests or changes In the last three years In the national aims. What is the national aim? The International affairs and during this period national aim Is given In clear-cut terms In the who was at the helm of affairs? That Is of Preamble of the Constitution. (interruptions) essence. The situation that prevailed In After all, it Is the aim that matters. And what June 1991 Is of essence. In June. 1991. the Is the aim? We have resolved solemnly to situation was like this. The prestige of India constitute India into asovereign, Democratic, . in the international arena was at its lowest in socialist, Secular Republic. We have the history of independent India .. resolved to make India when India, in the (Interruptions). The credibility of th is country 21 st century. will be second to none in the was totally destroyed because of the world. This Is our aim. That is why we must mismangement in all spheres of polity by gear up all our resources to achieve this the Government that ruled for one and a half end, we must frame our policy accordingly. year. And after that, much of water has Our programmes must tailor to achieve this flown below the Yamuna bridge. What was aim. In today's circumstances, it calls for a the consequence in June, 1991? It was large degree of integration. Fortunately, consolidation. Consolidation in every sphere today we have captain of the ship who can of State activity was widened because give the required direction and take us to the without consolidation we cannotforge ahead, destination or aim of the 21st century. Is without consolidation, we cannot take any there any other better captain here? I do not step forward. After all, what Is Intemational see. Indrajit Is not here. I would assure him prestige and intemational relations? They that the ship of our foreign policy is not do not change overnight. It takes time. without its moorings. It has clear-cut direction Nobody wields a magic wand which can because in international affairs we have to change the situation or which can show concentrate on macro Issues, not micro results within a short time. In the last eleven issues. What Is Tin Bigha jamln? It is a micro months, the agenda before the Govemment issue. What about our relationship with was consolidation, and this period is too little Pakistan or Afghanistan or the recognition to show any results in foreign policy. of Israel? these are all micro issues. We (Interruptions). have to concentrate on the macro issue the factors of which will chart out the agenda in SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: international relation in the coming years (Jagalsinghpur) What is the direction of your when we are proceeding towards the twenty- party? first century. It may, sometimes, be visible that we have taken retrograde steps. It is SHRI SUDHIR SAWANT: This i::. o(Vi,at possibrt. But once we have set an aim, once I am coming to .Let me speak. After all, we have chartered a policy or a programme, power forms the basic ingredient of then sometimes, as in war, we have to lose international standing. it is only power that a battle to win the war. That is precisely the evokes a response to your views because essence of foreign policy. What are these anybody is going to listen to you if you have factors which I consider as macro issues? power. That Is why today we have to rise The first among them Is the economic factor from ashes. We have to go back to the andtha sacond Is the fundamentalism which 339 Demands tor Grants APRIL 21, 1992 Min. 01 Ext. Altan 340 (Gen.), 1992-93 ISh. Sudhlr Sawant) after aB, a tool of U.S.A. II has always been used as a tool to destabilise this country will dictate the behavior pattern of nations because of the macro factor that Is the tomorrow. The behaviour pattern wIIldeperid econonicfactor, the CCH\l)UisIon to dornlnate on the primacy of one factor over the other. this market. this Is the reason of essence. that Is why we cannot taka a sacrosancl or a rIgkt'view In the foreign policy. Our foreign Some han. Member said that we must policy will essentially have to have a flexible ~ our relations with Pakistan. It Is a approach because In tuture the behaviour good Idea. But who Is going to aHow you to pattern of the international col'TVOOnlty Is Improve your ral.tlons with .Paklstan? going to be dictated by nakM pragmatism Pakislan Isgoverned by a Troka. The mDltary and stark opportunism and hence we have has always dominated Pakistan. Military, to be flexible In our approach. by natura, Is hawkish. It thrives on conflict and It thrives on confrontation. Hence the What has happened on the economic confrontationist attitude towards India. factor? In developed nations the domestic compulsions are going to dictate the foreign The other part Is the Zia policy. By policy In the future. It has always done. The whom Zia had always 'been promoted? It economy has always mattered In the matter was by U.S. U.S. had promotedZia. By what offorelgn policy. Buttoday It Is more relevant ? lIa consciously promoted drug trade. He the reason being the repld advancement In evolved the policy Wheraln the bureaucracy technology. More and more working hands and the politicians and the military advocated are falling vacant in the developed countries. a dHferant cause. They had strong links with For this, thera Is a compulsion on these the International drug cartels. This Is fact countries to Increase productlon.lfv and aIlthe military Is Inthe pay roli ofthe U.S, production has to be Increased, there has to that Is what we raad In the Pentagon papers be a demand and thera has to be a market. and hence the confrontation. though we will Their domestic markets are already, have genuine desireto improve our relations saturated and hence they have to. search with pakistan, It Is not allowed to happen for markets elsewhere. What better market because of those factors which I enumerated. is there in the world than Indian and China The compulsions of Pakistan are forCing which constitute a major portion of the India Into the other camp. India has no humanity? Hence the foreign policy of the choice today when It comes to U.S. India will developed nations will essentiaJly be directed have to take a bold stand against the towards economic domination of India. We developed nations because we are in the should have no doubt. I will ask the people other camp. India must consolidate the as to why it is referred when we tak of India developing nations and that is thljl primary and U.S. as two graatest democracies In the dictates on us today. world? But why has the U.S. consistently been at loggerheads with India? Why has it The second factor Is of fundamentalism. consistently supported Pakistan? I WIll ask Fundaf'rltlrllalism of anyform, whether Hindu the smethlng about Pakistan. Logically or Muslim or Christian , Is an antithesis to Pakistan has no option but to cooperate and progress and has to be combated with all to compromise with India. But stUI It has our effort, but there are rulers, thera ara been forced 10 take an antI-India stand. It poUtical groupings, who wllleSS8ntlaliy take has launched an entl-India rhetoric, It had rallglon as a crutch to further their interests, supported anti-Indian people In Kashmir we can~ do without It and therefore, In and Punjab. Why is it doing so? Pakistan is, . future fundamentalism Is likely to play a 341 Malters Under VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) MIn. of Ext. Affairs 342 (Gen.), 1992-93 major role and hence today these are the The HAM us stiR very relevant, but the fadors, one Is economic and the other Is term ' non-aligned' may not be relevant fundarT1entalismwhich wlildecide~ agenda today because of the collapse of the Big forthe future. What is India today? Where Is Powers, because of the end of the cold war, India to go? First, India must consolidate her but the objectives of NAM are stllll'8levanl postion In South AsIa; India nlJStconsolldate Indiraji In her Summit speech had clearly the developing nations, the developing stated that economic development is the nations must unlle and India must provide primary objective before the NAM and that the leadership. the developed nations have is why we must consolidate the de)teloplng no allematlve except to go the developing nations and w. must face the developed countries and dominate the developing nations w. Just have had the world countries. There I come again to the purchase Conference on Environment, we must not of artillery guns from U.S. I congratulate the give In, we must take complete requirement Government for not going through the deal of the Third World, we must project the of purchase of artillery guns because leadership of the Third World: When Defense Is a factor which can bring about speaking about SAARC,It Is natural that the domination because lithe developed nations small countries around us are likely to be have to dominate, there al'8 two issues on apprehenSive about India, because of the whch they can dominate. One Is ~nomic big status, because of the sheer size of this and the second Is Defense. We must realise country and that Is why the responsibility Is that we never had jOint exercise with any of on us to assure them and to impose the Super Powers in the history of confidence In them that India does not independent India. Why? Because In Intend to play the role of a big brother and Defence psychological factors playa major that ~ why this' Tin Bigha' land. These are role. If we have to expose our sailors, If we the methods wllh which we can Impose have to expose our junior officers to the confidence In our neighbourhood. allen domination, thel'8is likelihood of having a psychological effect on them. After all, our Sir, when II comes to Pakistan, as I Navy is a 'brown water' Navy, II is not a 'blue have all'8ady brought out, Pakistan has lis water' navy. The Navy is entrusted with the own compulsions because till true role of guarctlng our exclusive economic democracy takes root In Pakistan, wecannot zone, notfordefense of other countries and hope for improvement of relationship. It is a hence there Is no convnonallty with the U.S. stooge of US In clear terms. But, we cannot navy. Why for then these joint exercises? keep quiet to the sensitivities of the people of Sind, we cannot keep quiet to the In the field of Defence we maycooperate sensitivities oftha people of Sind, we cannot as far as technology Is concern8d. I am not keep quiet to the sensitivity of the people of talking about that, but we cannot allow Tam Taran, south Punjab or Baluchistan. ourselves to be dependent on any other PakIstan must be cl8arlywarned that If they power because India has got the continue 10 !Oterlereln the internal affairs of whel'8wlthal. India is not Iraq, India has got this country, India will be forced to look Into human resources to defend herself, to their affairs, India wiD be forced to promote combat any power In the world and that Is democratic forces In Pakistan. This is the why we must not subjugate ourselves, we clear-cut message that must go to Pakistan. must not allow ourselves to be dominated in the field of Defense and economy, we must Sir, coming to China after all If we have always have our independent approach. to combat such forces in the future, then we 343 Demands for Grants APRil 21, 1992 Min. of Ext. Affairs 344 (GIJn.J, 1992-93 (Sh. Sudhir Sawant] resolve the problems, as to what steps we have take to further our foreign policy, our must men our fences with China. In 1947, porograrnmes while going towards the 21 sf China and India were Hindi-Chlnl bhalbhal. Century. Fortunately, we have a very able But what happened In 1962? Why were we captain of the ship In the form of Naraslmha forced In war? It is because of the rhetoric In Raoji who will take us to our destination and this House. What was the question of all of us must resolve ourselves to evolve a essence at that time. china came and built national consensus again on foreign policy a road linking Sinking with TIbet. They were and guide this ship with a direction in which ready for dlusucssions and we were ready It should go to Its destination. for discussions. But this House had Indulged In rhetoric and the Members who were SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN sitting on the other side or their parties (Goblchattipalayam): Mr. Deputy Speaker, stated that till the last drop of ,every Indian Sir, at the very outset,l would like to mention blood, we will not give an inch of our territory that we are discussing about Extemal Affairs to China. This Is what forced the hands of and particularly about our foreign policy Nehruji into going for a war with China, which has been formally described as a because we demanded that discussions non-alignment policy. should start after status quo ante, that is, when China withdraws, But, China was Though we differ very bitterely on our demanding that dissuasions should start as domestic policies, on matt ers of foeign it is on ground and that Is why we had to affairs, there has been consensus and wide sacrifice thousands of soldiers on the borders support. Our foeign pilicy has won of this nation. This is a reality which the acclamation from all overthe world and this Tenth Lok Sabha must realise and we must has helped us to enhance the prstige of avoid rhetoric, as far as foreign policy is India. concerned. The boundary issue i& not a major issue which cannot be resolved. After On behalf of All India Anna DMK Party, all who drew the Me Mohan line? After all, I would like to say a few words on the how the borders came to us? It is a matter Demands foir Grants relating to the Ministry of deep study. A committee can be appointed of External Affairs. Wehn we atained of all the parties of this House to give a independence, the world ws divided into two proposal as far as the methodologoies of blocs sharply. H is in that background, resolving the boundary issue are concemed Jawaharlal Nehru formulated non-Aligned and once the boundary issue is resolved, policy between 1947 and 1960 during which India and China can confidently, together, period, more than 70 countries has attained mutually work towards development, freedom There were many colonies. In all because we have the human resources and the independence struggles, India helped we have the natural resources tocatertothp those countries morally and politically . India's needs of the people and that is essentiallY neutrality was postille neutrality, that is, the call of the day. supporti"9 the right and opposiOg the wrong. It has withstood the test of time and earned In conclusion, I would just say that we the name for India. In this process, India have come to a time of reckoning, ~e have became a close friend of the Soviet Union come to a tryst with destiny again wherein the Members of he Tenth Lok Sabha will have to answer posterity. The posterity win MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: :You can ask us as to what steps we have taken to continue tomorrow Shri Eduardo Faleiro. 345 PolItical Development: VAISA"HA 1,1914 ("AKA) in Afghanistan 346

RE: POLITICAL DEVELOPMENTS goes al this point ot time and he is with the IN AFGHANISTAN United Nations office in Kabul.

[English] As tar as Indian citizens are concerned, they are about 100 and odd Indian citizens THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE there Including our personnel In the Mission MINISTRY OF EXTERNAlAFFAIRS(SHRI . in Kabul. They are safe. We have also made EDUAROOFAlEIRO): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, arrangements in case their safety is In Slr,lnthe morning some ofthe hon. Members jeopardy, to safeguard their safety. wanted that I should share whatever information Is available with me on the I suppose, this Is what I should say at situation In our neighboring friendly country this point of time for the Information of the of Afghanistan. I thought, I should give hon. Members. some interim Information at this stage, pending what we will say at the end of the SHRIINDER JIT (Darjeeling): Has Mr. . debate. Now, following the developments of Najibullah sought asylum in India? 15-16th April, that is the time when Mr. Najibullha resigned from the presidentship SHRI EDUARDO FAlEIRO: There has of Afghanistan, the situation in Kabul has been no formal request for asylum . But continued to remain fluid. I must saythatthe there had been general feelers sent by him situation in Kabul itself is calm though tense. for shelter in the past. That is the positing. There is no violence in Kabul proper. We are in touch with the United Nations secretary SHRI E. AHAMED: What is the stand of General and with all countries immediately the Government of India in that? involved with the situation as well as with many prominent Afghans. We are hopeful SHRI EDUARDO FAlEIRO: As and that a definable pOlitical structure would when we get some specific request first we soon appear in Kabul with which we can will try to pin down, concretise this general make contact and move forward in our past request Into some specific situation bilateral relationship. and request through the United Nations office, that is where he is, at the moment. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Govemment of India continueto support the SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY United Nations peace process. We stand (Katwa): The Minister has referred to the ready to cooperate for its successful emergence of definable political structure in implementation. Our commitment and Afghanistan. What prevented him to express support forsoverign, independent and united the feeling that in our neighborhood, we Afghanistan based on the aspirations of desire that they develope a democtic and Afghan people remains abiding and secular Afghanistan? consistent. It is our hope that peac .. o:Jl1d tranquility will be maintained all over A fundamentalist in neighbourhood will Afghanistan, and that every effort will be be very dangerous to the security and to the made to prevent violence and bloodshed. other aspects of our country.

What prevented him form saying these Information was asked about Mr. things, particularly because UN intervention Najibullah. I would like to say that Mr. has taken place. They will be playing a role Najibullah is safe, as far as our information and as a member of the United Nations and 347 Slat. Res. reo approval APRIL 21, 1992 to Ncigaland 348 Proclamation in relation ISh. Salfuddin Ch oudhury] • That this House approves the Proclamation issued by the President In the neighbourhood, we will be also having on the 2nd April, 1992 under Article 356 our influence to exercise in this affair. of the Constitution In relation to the State of Nalagand·. I want a categorical explanation on this. The Governor of Nagaland in two SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Definitely messages both dated the 27th March, 1992 any fundamentalist regime is a matter of addressed to the President informed that he concern for us and it is a matter that is not had dissolved the Nagaland Legislative according to our interest and our ideological Assembly on the advice ofthe Chief Minister point of view and surely when we speak under Article 174 of the Constitution and the about independence, we mean truly Chief Minister had been allowed to continue independent and non-aligned Governemnt in caretaker capacity until fresh elections. there. The Governor of Nagaland also SHRI HARI KISHORE mentioned that the Budget Session of SINGH(Sheohar); an important daily Nagaland Legislative Assembly, which was Hinustan Times; has carried this item that in session with effect from 16th March, 1992 Dr. Najibullah is already here. came to an end on 26th March, 1992 after passing the Motion of Thanks on the SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: His Governor's address and DemandforGrants wife is in India. for the coming year. The majority of the present Chief Minister was proved on the SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH: Already floor of the Assembly. The ruling Nagaland he is here. Would you like to comment? People's Council party also got its candidate elected to the RaJya Sabha. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: No. he is not here. ThQ Governor also informed that resort to Courts had been frequent during the life MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now it is 3 0' of the Assembly. The Courts had yet to Clock. Mr. Basu Deb Acharia, you wanted to resolve the case of disqualification of 15 know at what time it would be taken up. Now MLAs and 10 MLAs were involved in yet it Will be taken up. Shri S. B. Chavan will now another case in Guwahati High Court. The move the Statutory Resolution. Governor further reported that the Chief Minister had favoured fresh mandate from the people because of various pressures to which he had been subjected to and felt that 15.02 hrs. purposeful administration could not be carried on with ~linisters and MLAs STATUTORY prSOLUTION ~E. pressuring for plum posts. The Governor APPROVAL OF l'rlOCLAMA lION IN also mentioned that in the process the law RELATION TO THE STATE OF and order had been negelcted. NAGALAND [English] The Union Governmentconsidered the reports of the Governor and the overall THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS situation prevaiHng in Nagaland. Clearly the (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): I beg to move: party position in the State was fluid and the 349 Stat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Nagaland 350 Proclamation In fe/ation law and order had been neglected. The very the asserrbIywas summonedforthepurpose grounds relied upon by the Govemment to but the Govemor of Manlpur postponed the dissolve the Assembly showed that it was sitting of the State Legislative Assembly on not possible to carry on the administration of that day. the State In accordance with the provisiOns of the Constitution for the normal life of the [MR. SPEAKER in the Chail1 Assembly. Accordingly, It was decided to recommend to the President of India to 15.05 hl1l issue a Proclamation under article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Mr. speaker, Sir, this Is an Nagaland. The President was pleased to unprecedented question. I would like Mr. issue the said Proclamation on 2nd April, Chavan to throw some light on it. 1992. Mr. Speaker. Sir. before we take up the In view of the circumstances which I Nagaland issue, I would like to tell you that have just explained I commend, Sir, that the we read a very disturbing news today in the Proclamation issued on 2nd April, 1992 newspapers thatthe govemorofthe Manlpur under Article 356 of the Constitution in had deferred the sitting of the Assembly in relation to the State of Nagaland be approved an unprecedented move. Such an incident by this august House. has never taken place in the history any time. The Government Is destabllshing the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion State Governments one after the other in moved: such a manner. Therefore, I would like the hon. Home Minister - Shri Chavan who is "That this House approves the present here to make a statement in this Proclamation issued by the President regard. on the 2nd April. 1992 under Article 456 of the Constitution in relation to the SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES State of Nagaland.· (Muzaffarpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to add one more thing that when the governor had administered the oath of office and SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA(Bankura): secrecy to the Chief Minister of Mainpur. he I have submitted a motion for revocation of had asked the Chief Minister to prove his Article 356. I was not informed about the majority in the State Assembly within ten fate of my motion. days. The assembly was to meet that day but just before that a message was received MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Rabi from the Centre that the Assembly would Ray will now speak. not meet on that day. Since the ruling party had no majority they did not let the Asembly [ Translation] meet. Th",v "ad made a promise to the people 0' !I ta country and the governor that SHRI RABI RAY (Kendrapada): Mr. they would prove majority within ten days. Deputy Speaker. Sir. I would like to raise a Now when they are not in a position to prove very urgent matter. The matter is important their majority what are they going to do? because it Is to be verified whether the Therefore. I would demand that the hon. Government Is in minority or majority in the Home Minster should make a statement in Manipur Legislative Assembly and sitting of this regard in the House. 351 Stat. Res. 1'9. approval APRil 21, 1992 to NagaJand 352 Proclamation in I'9lation [English] does the Government read to that situation? Or, does it have double-standards in this MR. SPEAKER: We are now on a regard? This is a question which becomes different topic. pertinent in the context of the discussion on Nagaland itself. Therefore, if the hon. Home SHRIGEORGE FERNANDES: Weare. Minister is willing to enlighten the House, it But this is an emergency matter. will help the debate.

MR. SPEAKER: Can we Jump from SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: This is a one topic to the other? Constitutional question. (Interruptions)

SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: After SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Sir, in fact, when all, the Constitution is being defiled at every the question of Nagaland is being discussed moment and the Home Minister is sitting in the House, it is not proper for me to there grinning away.(lnterruptions) intervene and inform the House. But since the hon. Members have raised it and if I MR. SPEAKER: But then we have a were not to react, it will give a totally wrong matter which is equally important. let us signal. I must inform the House. discuss it first. ( Interruptions)

( Interruptions) SHRI RABI RAY (Kendrapada): That is the precise reason why we want that you MR. SPEAKER: As senior Member, should react. you know what can be done, how it can be raised, but not now. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Before raising the matter, you could have informed ( Interruptions) the House yourself.

SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): MR. SPEAKER: Where was the Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are certainly discussing occasion for him to inform the House? the constitutional implications and the constitutional propriety of imposing (Interruptions) President's Rule in Nagaland .. But I am sure that everyone would appreciate that it has SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: No. Actually, we political implications also and the political got the message from the Governorthat the consequences are not confined to Nagaland Governor informed the President and the alone. They are spreading overtothe North- copy 01 which was also sent to the Home East. In this context. the question that l1as Ministry by saying that he apprehends some been raised by Shri Rabi Ray or I ")ri kind· of a physical attack amongst the George r dnandes is in the rT" ')f Membe~ - ',: that is why. everyone of us ever since we got the rt:jJ0rt yesterday. For the first time in the history of ( Interruptions) India a person who was given a definite time to prove the majority within the prescribed period, when the day arrives, on that very SHRI RABI RAY: This is a very peculiar morning he is told that an extension of four reason. days is given. Obviously it is done because he is not able to prove his majority. How ( Interruptions) 353 Stat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1, 1914 (SAKA) to Nagaland 354 Proclamation In relation [Translation) (Interruptions)

SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. MR. SPEAKER: I know, Acharias are Speaker, Sir. what is all this? (Interruptions) always very relevent and right. I expect him also to guide me. But then let us please Is ~e making fun of it? discuss the issue. In the course of the debate, If you want to say certain things, ( Interruptions) nobody Is saying that you do not say. As Advaniji has said, if it has some relevance to [English) that area, you are well within your right. But you cannot set aside this discussion and SHRIS.B. CHAVAN: Hyouwant it, lam take up altogether a new debate. prepared to lay that report. (Interruptions) Shrl Advani to speak. [ Translation) ( Interruptions) SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: He is running the administration he is the Home Minister of the country. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You Will have your chance. You can make your speeches one SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Had I said so, it after the other. would have been different thing but the Governor has said soC Interruptions) If you ( Interruptions) can speak loudly I can also speak lovdly, ( interruptions) SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY (Jagatsinghpur): We just want to know under [English) what circumstances.

SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: You MR . SPEAKER: When you speak, you have a Governmentthere;. you have a Chief say this. Minister there; and you are running the administration there. (Interruptions) He is running the Government; his party is running SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: the Government there. And they are Wherefrom the speech will come unless the apprehending the violence. (Interruptions) full facts are known? You are allowing us to move in the dark. Government must help us MR. SPEAKER: Not like this. In the to understand it. (Interruptions) course of your speeches, If you raise this matter and If you expect a reply, I can understand it. But If you are setting aside MR. SPEAKER: Not like this. The point what is really put before you and discuss is, any thing which is on the agdlda is not altogether a different issue and that too. Important for you and anything which Is not on the agenda is important for you. How can SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: It is not it happen? Not like this. You follow the different. It is a related Issue. (Interruptions) agenda. Anything which is on the agenda is more important than anything which is not MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acharla, all the on the agenda. That issue can be taken up time you are doing like this. on the agenda If you like. 355 Stat. Res. reo approval APRil 21, 1992 to Nagaland 356 Proclamation In relation SHRI LAL. K AOVANI (Gandhi Nagar): this decision along with another decision Mr. Speaker, Sir , I rise to oppose the taken three or four clays later, namely, the Statutory Resolution moved by the Home dismissal of the Governor of Nagaland. And Minister. that two decisions together, I think add up to a notice served on all Governors In the Article 356 Is one of the most abused country, that you must understated hereafter provisions of the Indian Constitution even that irrespective of what the Supreme Court though when It was adopted by the may have said about the role, status and Constltutents Assembly, the principal duties of a Governor, Irrespective of what architect of the Constitution Dr, Ambedkar the Administrative Reforms Commissionar had expressed the hope that this would be the Sarkarla Commission may say about used very rarely so much so that he said, "I the responsibilities of a Governor, so far as hope and all of us hope that it would remain the Government of India is concerned and a dead letter." Far from being a dead letter which is In office today, it regards the it has been very very vigorously and actively governor as a subservient agent of the used and more often than not, used for Government of India, who is expected to purposes that were never even carry out the duties given to him by the contemplated by the constitution-makers. Government of India - by the ruling party in power. And, therefore, if one day be thinks Among the worst uses that I can recall, that the Constitution has assigned to him I would certainly include this particular case this duty and he acts according to the of Imposition of the President's rule in Constitution without even reference to the Nagaland after the Assembly had been Central Governemnt then he does at his dissolved as one of the worst cases. I do not own peril. This is the third reason why,lthink remember another case where after an that this decision Is absolutely perverse. Assembly has been dissolved by the governor under Article 174(2), article 356 And the fourth reason which is less has been invoked. At least, I do not recall. constitutional, more political and with which There might be some and there might be this particular question raised by Shri Rabi some explanation for that. In this case, I Ray and Shri George Fernandes and by have not even found an explanation for it. other coleagues, this side or the House, is very relevant, is what is going to be our I have four principal reasons why I am approach to this North-Eastern region? After opposing this Resolution. Firstly, as I have all, every decision that we take has an already Indicated that I regard this type of impact on that region. And I believe that this decision to invoke Article 356 as decision impose President's Rule in constitutionally indefensible. There is just Nagaland has accentuated the feelings of no defense. The second reason is , I regard distrust and alienation which prevail in that It as an outrageous assault on the institution repion -which prevail in a very large extent. of Governor. The Governor is an institution Tllclre may be other reasons fill,: 30me of -an important institution -which the Sarkari a those reasons, it may not be everl Justified. Commission described as the linchpin of But the fact is that there Is distrust in New thetonstltutional apparatus. And by this act Delhi, there is alienation from New Delhi and this decision to impose President's Rule and, therefore, when New Delhi decides to in Nagaland, the Govemment of India has do something it must be very careful, very been guilty of assault on the institution. cautious. It should be careful in respect of extraordinary powers. But when these My third reason is that we have to view extraordinary powers are sought to be 357 Stat. Res. re. approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) Proclamation in relation applied Inthe North-East, you have to be dislk)lveaStateAssembIY"wlthoutreference doubly careful. And I hold that for these four to the Presldent-. reasons this particular decision Is a wrong decision. Even at this stage, If the SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I think this is also Governemnt on its own avails all the a mis-quoting. In fact there is no question provisions of the Constitution and decides about it. We know under article 174 2(b) the to revoke It, I would be very happy. But If It Govemor has the power to dissolve the does not, then, I think It is the duty of this Assembly. There is no doubt in our mind. House to let the Government know what the The only point was getting the legal opinion. House thinks about it. After article 1742 (b) having been invoked whether article 356 can also be invoked, Sir, I would deal briefly with each of the was the legal issue that we wanted to get points, each of the factors that I have examined. mentioned. How is it constitutional? I listened to Shri jacob, the other day, when he was SHRI LAL. K. ADVANI: I am satisfied to speaking here. I read the speeches of the the extent that you appreciate that under Home Minister in the other House and also article 174 2(b) the governor has the power some of his remarks outside. And one of the to dissolve the Assembly. I would go further remarks that struck me was his saying that and I would ask you whether you think that it will have to be legally examined. He is on in that situation the Government that was record having said that legal opinion was there in Nagaland on that day, on the 27th, being sought on whether a Governor can had not lost the majority. The Assembly dissolve a State Assemblywithout reference session was just over and you yourself said to the President. (Interruptions) in your statement just now that the Motion of Thanks on the Govemor's Address had been passed, the Budget had been passed. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE" I am aware that there has been defection, MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS counter-defection and re-defection going AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on in some of these States for the last so MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI many years in which you start blaming some M.M. JACOB): I do not think that that is the of my colleagues this side. I would say that sense in which I have said. I said about the all parties there are equally guilty, including contradiction which you raised on that day some of my side. It is like the pot calling the' which was that when there is Article 174 kettle black. Let us not accuse each other on which was already invoked, can Article 356 that score. I got a pamphlet from the be invoked? That was the question. I said . Nagaland Congress Committee telling me that legal opinion on that is sought and there what was happening in the last three years is no contradiction. It has - Article 356 - in which all these allegations were traded. I overriding power. am aware of that: I will be coming to that aspect aiso. But tfltl basic fact i" fhat on the SHRI LAL. K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker 27th of March when the Vamuzo Sir, when I referred to this fact I did not have Government advised the Governor to the Minister of State in mind,l had the Home dissolve the Assembly because it thoug ht in Minister's statement as reported by the PTI those circumstances theGovemment cannot in mind. I have read one of the statements '~ntinue, it was perfectly right. It was not by the Home Ministe r reported by the PTI in only perfectly right, but If the Governor had which he said that legal opinion would have refused to accept the Chief Minister's advice, to be sought whether a Governor can the Governor would have been acting 359 Stat. Res. re. approval APRil 21, 1992 Proclamation In relation [Sh. lal. K. Advanij SHRILAl K. ADVANI: I am fully aware of the kind of politics that goes on there. unconstitutionally. He had no option (Interruptions) whatsover that a duly elected Government which had not lost Its majority in the Assembly SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV: We It advised him dissolution. The grounds that are also from the North Eastern State. You he had given, you yourself endorsed. have said one thing that the alienation of the North East Is by Deihl. It Is a very sweeping THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE statement from a leader of your status. This MINISTRY OF STEEl(SHRI SONTOSH sort of statement Is instigating the Insurgency MOHAN OEV): The Chief Minister should by certain political parties who do not have give the advice after a Cabinet decision, not any footing in the North East. (Interruptions)1t by himself. Is a dangerous statement. (Interruptions) There was another statement by a BJP SHRILAl.K. AOVANI: It is a question leader, Shri Jaswant Singh who said that Ali, of fact. I do not know. I have with me a letter Kuli and Bengali are there in the North East. addressed by the Chief Ministeraf Nagaland They have 10 pay a priCe for it. This sort of to the Governor Dr. M.M. Thomas. I quote statement should not be made in the this letter: Parliament. (Interruptions) we have not said that at all. (lnterrupifions) Please do not • You are aware that due to frequent make this sort ot staltements. You people defection of Members of the legislative are playing politics and not the Central Assembly, there have been several Government (Interruptions) You are putting changes of Ministry. I am now running the North East into trouble by making this the third Ministry within a span of three sort of statements on the floor of the House years. It is still found that there is no by a person of his status. (Interruptions) I stability in the minds of Members. The have got a right to Bay it. (Interruptions) As Cabinet has therefore come to the a person from the North East, we also feel conclusion that the Assembly be hurt to hear this. (Interruptions) dissolved and a care-taker Governemnt be allowed till such time as the fresh AN HON. MEUBER: What the leader mandate of the people Is called for. I of the OppoSition Inas said is true that the therefore recommend dissolution of the Centre is alienclting the North East. House and a care-taker Govememnt be (Interruptions) invited till a fresh mandate of the people Is called for: SHRI JASWA,NT SING·~Chiittorgarh): Mr. Speaker, Sir, Olrdinarlly I would not have I have nothing else to rely upon except intervened at all. In my colle age, the leader this particular letter which says that the ofthe Opposition ,I have full confidence and Cabinet has decided. perfectly he will be able to handle it. But, the hon. Minister of Slieel and myoid friend has SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV: You gone into a paro;lCyam of stimulated anger should have quoted the subsequent and he Is pretendling a gmat deal of outrage. statement followed within 24 hours by six ( Interruptions) Ministers saying that there was no Cabinet meeting. Kindly apprise the house of the MR. SPEA,KER: What Is stimulated in actual facts. it? It may be r~Jal. 361 Stat. Res. re. approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Na';l .. land 362 Proclamation in relation ( Interruptions) discretion in so far as the dissolution of the Assembly is concerned. But if he is advised SHRI JASWANI SINGH: Sir, two by the Council of Ministers to dissolve the suggetlons have been made by him. assembly, he has to do it. He has no option Averments are made on account of what we but to do it unless, as Sarkaria has said, the have said or say here that these might advice is patently unconstitutional. cause alienation in the North East. It is not what we say or do that has caused aliention; He says: alienation in the North East is a direct consequence of forty years of Congress It is a well recognised principle that misrule. (Interruptions) then, what he said is so long as the Council of Ministers correct. I said in this very House and I quote; enjoys the confidence of the Assembly, his advice in these "A former President of the matters, namely, in the matter of Congress party, Shri Devakant dissolution, unless patently Baruah, said, ·What do I need unconstitutional, must be deem~d votes in Assam for, when I have as binding on the govemor. got Ali, Kuli and Bengali in my pocket?". Of course, Sarkaria mentions that one of the State Governments has represented That is the quote of the former President to the Sarkaria Commission about article of the Congress party, which my good friend 174 (2) thatthere must be an addition made is perfectly entitled to misquote and misuse to it to make this very clear that the advice in the Cachar Valley (Interruptions) of the Council of Ministers shall be binding.

MR. SPEAKER: But, Shri Baruah is not SHRt PAWAN KUMAR here to defend himself. BANSAl(Chandigarh): Council of Ministers never met. ( Interruptions) [ Translation] SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: Sir, I have got a copy of his speech which I have SHRtlAl K. ADVANt: Should t believe circulated in my area. For his correction, you or the letter which I have got from the tonight, I will send a copy of his speech to former Chief Minister, this is my difficulty: him where he has never mentioned about it. I have full belief in Shri Jaswant singh. He is SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: Since a good orator, but he should not try to do you are saying anthis, you find it out yourself. this. (Interruptions) SH~I tAL K. ADVANI: Some people MR. SPEAKER: That is all rig"t C::hri keep rI ... '··, :iing there everyday, it is not my Advani may please continue. tende,,· • to believe them.

( Interruptions) SHRt PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: You should ascertain the entire fact first and then SHRI LAl K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, speak. Sir, As the Home Minister has himself conceded that under Article 174(2), a MR. SPEAKER: All right, sit down Governor, of course, cannot act in his please. 363 Stat. Res. reo ippfOvaJ APRIL 21 , 1992 to NagaJand 364 Proclamation in relation SHRI LAl K. ADVANI: let this be said care of earlier. All kinds of charge are being by the Home Minister.ldo ntoknow. Let him traded here. In the Press also, allegations enlighten the House. I have with me a letter are being made. I think, It Is highly unfair on from the Chief Minister. Therefore, I have the part of the Govemment to make those mentioned it. charge after development of this kind has taken place. Even the other day, when Mr. Jacob addressed the House or Mr. Chavan I hold no brief on behaH of Dr. Thomas. addressed the other House a"rl <;poke on I havenotseen him. I have not ""./llim.ldo this subject, it was it was C,I;jc;tI Ihat the no' know him. Mr. George Fernal', )..,5 would Government of India expected that the be knowing him fully personally. I 00 know governur would consult them before this thing that the Government 01 India was dissolution. This has been the invariable not angry with the Govemor before March practice till now of an govemors. 27. The anger of the Govemment of India has followed the Governor's decision to SHRI S.B. CHAVAN:This is not correct. dissolve the Assembly on the advice of the We never expected this. Council of Ministers according to the Constitution. So, I am sure, you will SHRI LAL K. AOVANI: Very good. appreciate that at !east in this matter, I can be more objective than some of my SHRI M.M. JACOB: In fact, when I colleague. spoke in this House, I categorically made it very clearthat we were not concemed about SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I hope that you that aspect at all that Governor did not will be objective. consult us. It was not the question at all before us at that time. (Interruptions) SHRI LAL.K. ADVANI: I am objective. I go only by the record whatever has appeared. SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombay North): the facts are coming out of the bag now. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: You are briefed ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER; All of us were here in the House. SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: I am not briefed. by any one.by anyone. You explain to me SHRI LAL. K. ADVANI: H the anger is what are the circumstances which can be not because of non-consultation, then I fail described as the Constitution has broken to understand why an action ofthe Governor, down in Nagaland. After all, very specific which is perfectly constitutional has caused cases are there. umbrage here. Why has it annoyed the Central Government and annoyed to such SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: After an extent as first to impose President's rule article 174 (2) (b),what is left? and then to dismiss the Govemor also.

SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: It is a SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: That is the different matter. problem

SHRI LAL K. AOVANI: H that was a SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: After different matter, it should have been taken that it was to be done (Interruptions) 365 Stat. Res. reo ~aI VAISAKHA 1.1914 (SAKA) . to Nagaland 366 Proclamation in relation (English] hon.Minister of Steel has asked me a question. I would tell him that my Chief MR. SPEAKER: Not like this. Ministers will never do anything of this kind ... (interruptions) SHRI LAl K. ADVANI; After all. the SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: Who utmost step that can be taken even after knows? With Ms.Uma Bharathl's episode. article 356 is invoked is an appeal to the anything can happen ... (Interruptions) electorate, an appeal to the people. SHRllAl K. ADVANI: His only a Prime Minister of Congress Party who can even And this had already been done. All that Invoke Article 352 and promulgate you have done. by 'rT1>0sing Article 356 is to emergency without consuHing the cabinet. short-circuit the process of appeal to the electorate and nothing else. What are you SHRI SONTHOSH MOHAN DEV:That going to achieve? As I can see, the practical Is no answer. consequences are that you have dismissed the caretaker government and secondly SHRllAl.K. ADVANI: In this case, on you want to hold elections at the timing of this particular issue, I have nothing to go your own choosing. You do not have the upon except the letter of the Chief Minister scope for doing what you have done in to find out whether the cabinet was consulted Manlpur, that is, to install a Congress or not. And I am not willing to accept your Government, or anything of that kind. I am word for it. let the Home Minister say really amazed that for a purely partisan and something about it. very petty purpose, you have done all this. This is an enormity. This is a great offence I am aware that the Govemor has that you have committed for a petty gain. various roles and not a single role. But Otherwise, elections have already been essentially, in problems of this kind, to came ordered by the Governor immediately. If the to a decision as to how much he is obliged elections are held and you have won. it to the Constitution, how much is his duty to would have been fine. But you preferred to the Constitution and how much Is his duty to act in a partisan manner and therefore .. act as a link wtween the Centre and the invited the condemnation of the whole State, I think what the Supreme Court has country. Now in the entire country, almost laid down in the case of Hergovind Pant every newspaper with very few exceptions. versus Dr.Raghukul Tilak in 1979 should be has condemned this action. regarded as the last word and the Government should accept it. In this the SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: If the Supreme Court very wisely said: sane situation arises in Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh or even Inn West Bengal, ·'t is no doubt true that the Governor where the Chief Minster recommends the is appointed by the President, which dissolution of the Assembly without means in effect and substance the consulting the Cabinet and if the Governor Government of India. But that is only accepts the same, will you holr1 the same a "vJe of appointment and it is not opinion as you are hOIlJ,"S '1ow? "'.J"~ the Governor an employee or (Interruptions) to", lIant of the Government of India .. ThiS is how the Government of India SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY tends to view it. Every person (Katwar): You cannot put hypothetical appointed by the President is not questions. Even then, we say It should be as necessarily an employee of the per the Constitution only and nothing else. Government of India. So also, it does not material that the Governor holds SHRI lAl.K.ADVANI: The right office during the pleasure of the 367 Stat. Res. re. approval APRil 21, 1992 to Na!ldland 368 Proclamation in relation [Sh. lal K. Advanij longer a Governor of Nagaland. (Interruptions) President, It is a constitutional provision for determination of the [English] term of the office ofthe Governor and it does not make the Government of SHRI lAl.K. ADVANI: The Home India an employer of the Governor. Minister might be aware that in the draft His office Is not subordinate or Constitution there was a provision even for subserivent to the Government of ifT1l8achment oftheGovernor. Subsequently India. He is not amenable to the it was dropped and it was dropped on the directions of the Govemment of India ground that there will be a instrument of and nor is he accountable to them for direction subsequently added and, therefore the manner in which he carles his impeachment provision is not necessary. functions and duties. He is an Bur after this experience I feel that some important and independent provision has to be made or at least some constitutional office which is not decisions have to betaken and which should subject to the control of the be adhered to, Now, the kind of campaign Government of India: that has been going on round about the Governor is, was he given notice of it that SHRIA.CHARlES(Trivandrum):What these are the allegations against him; was was the ruling given by the National Front he given an opportunity to explain his Government? position. This is a demand of natural justice.

SHRI E. AHEMAD (Manjeri): The The Sarkaria Commission also felt that National Front Govemment, when they were one of the important factors which will in power mere, with the support of BJP contribute to the independence of the changed the Governor and then Advani ji Governors would be fixity of tenure. When supported that Government. he is appointed forfive years he should know that he is expected to indicate the SHRI LAl.K.. ADVANI: I have my own continuance of Government. Chief Minister opinion about that also. But the question is anycomeandgo but he will continue forfive nolthat. Today the question is not where the years and that would make him responsible IGovemor has resigned, but it is the question for the Constitution as a whole. Therefore, where the Governor has been dismissed. In if there are any special circumstances in all those cases the Governors had tendered which the tenure of the Govemor has to be there resignations. Someone can say that terminated the Sarkaria Commission says: they were pressurised to resign but in this particular case he has been remove from • Whenever it is proposedtoterminate Office and removal from Office is a very the tenure of a Governor before the extraordinary matter. I do not know whether expiry of the normal term of five he was given .... years he should be informally apprised of the grounds of the [Translation} proposed .:;ction and afforded a reaSOnablE: v .... portunity for showing SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY' It C"""d against it. It is desirable that was announced in Hindi on Radio 'Abrdflim ttl", President, which in fact means sabe', if no longer, what was it them. the Union Counc~: cf:Ainisters, should (Interruptions) get the explanlition if any submitted by the Governor against this SHRILAl.K. ADVANI: Dr.. Thomas is proposed removal from Office no longer examined by an Advisory Group consistin C: of the Vice President of SHRI SAIFUDIN CHOUDHURY: No India, the' Speaker of Lok Sabha and 369 Stat. Res. 1'9. approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Naga/and 370 Proclamation in relation a retired Chief Justice of India. After doctrine that It was the right of the Central receiving the recommendation of this Government two remove Governors. It was group the President may pass such a forced resignation, The record says that it orders in the case as he may deem is the right of the Government to remove fit. Governors. So, please do not go by what appears on the surface. Because, the This is the extent to which the Sarkaria Governors were forced to resign. So, it was Commission wanted the Government to go really a dismissal. in order to ensure that there is no arbitrary dismissal of any Governor. But that has SHRILAL K. ADVANI: It seems that taken place now. That is at least what I you accept Mr. Mufti Mohammed Sayeed's know. I have nothing else to go upon. These thesis. You are acting according to Mr. are the recommendations made in the Sayeed's thesis. [English] context of ensuring that the Institution of Govemor really functions in accordance MR.SPEAKER: I think, we are with the conception of the Constitution discussing the conduct of the Governor and makers in order to ensure that Centre state removal of the Governor. relations are on an even keel. SHRI lAl.K.ADVANI: I am not. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: The Removal ofthe Govemorcan be discussed. Sarkaria Commission report was made in I am not discussing the conduct of the the year 1987 and you supported the NF Govemor. No one is discussing it. Government in 1989-90. MR. SPEAKER: The difficuity will arise [franslation] here. Supposing if the hon.Members say that the Governor is removed and wrongly SHRI lAL.K. ADVANI: If the removed and supposing the Government Government was wrong, the Sarkaria wants to reply why it is so .... (Interruptions) Commission was appOinted by no other authority than the Govemment issued. SHRI S.B. CHANVAN: If the hon. Leader or the Opposition were to may that this is an SHRI PAWN KUMAR BANSAL arbitrary use of the power, then I would have (Chandigarh): Shri V.P. Singh with your . to come to the House by giving all the details support forced 9 Governors to resign. about the conduct of the Governor and I do not want the conduct of the Governor to be SHRllAl.K. ADVANI: I know that but discussed on the floor of the House. That is no one was dismissed. my difficulty. That is why, we are requesting the hon.Members, whatever be their views, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE directly or indirectly, if you again discuss the MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. conduct of the Governor, then, of course, it CHIDAMBARAM): All that we are saying is would be very unfortunate. that Supreme Court judgment in Raghulal Tiilak's case and the Sarkaria commission MR. SPEAKER: It Is a very Cfmplicated Report, you conveniently did not re': •.. , 'ller issue. Pl ...... ,~ apply your mind and speak to them or read them wh.,,·, Shri V.P. ~. ",' s the point .. Government got rid of Governors.

SHRI lAl K. ADVANI: It was not a SHRILAl.K.ADVANI:No.lsaid,lhave dismissal at that time. This is the only applied my mind. Therefore I have not dismissal. discussed the Governor. What I am stressing is that, this episode has underscored the SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Mr. Mufti need of accepting the Sarkaria Commission's Mohammed Sayeed proclaimed a new recommendations in this regard. Otherwise, 371 Stat. Res. reo approval APRIL 21, 1992 to Nagrl/and 372 Proclamation in relation [Sh. Lal K. Advanij SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: Is there any method in our Rule Book by which there will be a case of miscarriage of justice we discuss the conduct of the Governor in many cases. also?

SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Do not AN HDN.MEMBER: By Substantive conveniently quote the Sarkaria Motion. Commission. It has said so many things. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: Yes, Before removing the Govemor why did they SHRI LAL.K. ADVANI: 1 see that you not bring the Substantive Motion on the have taken a decision on all the issues and conduct of the Govemor. They should not said that this is not acceptable but this is take defence on that. We should not be acceptable, It has been pending for the last disarmed on that. Of course, you have done four or five years now and nothing is being a very wrong thing. done about it. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: The House MR. SPEAKER: I am very sure - I am should not be kept in the dark. sorry I am interrupting you that while discussing this issue some reference is MR. SPEAKER: Well, you are saying likely to be there on the Governor also. But something in favour of the Governor. You I am aware of the fact that if the reply is are well with in your right to do so. Supposing sought to be given by the Government, then the reply is given by the Govemment, you there may not be an objection to It., So, the should not object to that. position becomes very very delicate, That is why both the sides have to bear in mind the SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: lam delicacy involved in it and carry on the saying that they should have brought a discussion ,I do notthink that you have done Substantive Motion before removing the anything wrong In this matter. You are putting Governor. forth the theoretical aspect, the technical aspect and the Constitutional aspect of it SHRI LAL.K. ADVANI: I for one would not object to any remark made by the SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: But the Treasury Benches about the Governor, Members have the rightto know the reasons because 1hold that this rule in respect of "No also. reference to any constitutional office" has a relevance to where a substantive motion MR. SPEAKER: The Govemment may can be moved against him. I cannot say give you the reasons and you may not like anything about the President because I can it to be given on the floor of the House. move a motion of impeachment against the There, the problem arises. President. I cannot say anything about a Judge because I can move a motion of SHRI S.B. CHANVAN: Governor's impeachment against the Judge, or against independence there of course becomes the Chief Election Commissioner. But the subservient. You don't seem to know Govemor is the 0"'. constitutional office in anything. When he says that there is a the whole Constilul, ..m book in which there possibility of physical violence, everybody Is no sanction for nay action, except that he says .... (Interruptions) shall hold office at the pleasure of the President. There is none. 1have no remedy. SHRI LAL K. ADAVANI: 1think, as far Therefore, truly seeking, 1 should not be as Mr. Advani's statement is concerned he barred from referring even to a Governor, is going buy what the Sarkaria Commission normally. But in this case I have not done it, has said and things like that. Nothing more And, therefore, 1would not object even to than that. the Govemment replaying to my queries 373 Stat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKAl' to NagaJand 374 Proclamation in relation whether It was done inafairmanner, whether Provisions. From Article 352 which is about he was given an opportunity to explain or Proclamation of a Finan~ial Emergency, not, if not whatthe Govemment proposes to these are nine provisions underthis Chapter. do In this regard in the future. Has it got any The most draconian of these provisions is plans for the future? Article 352 about Proclamation of Emergency. We have had to go through that Sir, myconcem is thatthis Government traumatic experience of 1975 and 19n. We when it came into office gave an imprf!ssion cannot forget it. that in the past many things may have happened wrong; hereafter they are going SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY to see that there is no understanding of (Katwas): They have not gone through it. institutions as such, they are going to see that by and large things go on by a measure SHRI LAl K. ADVANI: No. But I give of consensus. credit to them also that after 1977 when a new Parliament was convened, in which the In fact, I was happy on the other day, Congress Party was the principal party and when discussing Meghalaya, the these bear facts of the Emergency were Govemmenttold us, "You should be able to brought out very forcefully, formally they appreciate that we cannot direct the have stated that the Emergencywasjustified. Governor; we have taken note of all the But actually everyone in the country realised feelings that you have expressed, but we that the Emergency was not justified •. And cannot direct the Governor". therefore when we put forth the proposal before the Government at that time that We said that this has been happening Article 352 should not be lightly used, one in the past, and they have been directing. It proposal, was that Article 352 should be was said that it may have been on an scrapped altogether; there should be no occasion. It was said that" it may have been right to the Central Govemment to impose har,pening in the past, we do not propose to an Emergency of this kind in which the directthe Governor. Let him take a decision". democratic process was totally eclipsed. But it was said that a situation can arise. they It was a good thing. have arisen in the past.. there has been a war, there have been other situations and But in this particular case the Governor therefore we made certain changes. Instead has done something constitutional. It has of internal disturbances, we brought in the been supervened by Article 356 and four concept of armed rebellion,' etc. But the days later he has been dismissed. It is most important is that to Article 352 an certainly a matter which calls for an amendment was made providing that explanation and the Government is duty Parliament's approval for the Proclamation bound to explain why it has done it. Rules of Emergency will not be a simple majority. should article 352 which is about It would by a special majority, the kind of Proclamation of Emergency to Article 360 special majority which is needed when you which is about Proclamation of a Financial amend the Constitution under Article. 368. Emergency. these are nine prolli -;,ons under that kind of a special majority would be this Chapttlr. Yhe most dracon'dn of these required. even j" "'~ ',dse of Article 352. I provisions is Article 352 about proclamation am very happy lu <>d.y that on the floor It has been the Governor and dissolve the Assembly. decidea Inat is majority behind the Chief Those cases went to the Supreme Court Minister. Therefore there, that was an un~er Article 131 and Supreme Court held extraneous point that was consld~red by the that this comes under this otherwise Governor as far as the Rajya Sabha election provision and President can dissolve all was concerned. those Assemblies and the President ultimately dissolved all those Assemblies. As far as the thanks-giving resolution So, this word 'otherwise' Is so wise, It is only and the Demands were concerned,l Submit 379 Slat. Res. re. approval APRIL 21, 1992 to Nagaland 380 Proclamation in relation [Sh. Sharad Dighe] therefore submit that even of we cannot of behind the present's satisfaction, the facts that he himself has stated that the situation also show that they wen. sufficient to satisfy was fluid. Every minute it was changing. My the President that the proclamation ought to information is, and the Home Minister will have been issued under article 356 of the bear with me, that this advice of dissolution Constitution. It is, therefore, fully justified was given without the Cabinet's decision. It that the constitutional proclamation has been was his personal advice and no Cabinet issued. meeting was held to tender that advice. Had he summoned the Cabinettoconsidergiving A constitutional point is being raised- this advice, there would have been vertical and would be raised also - that there is a split in the whole party and at that very conflict between Articles 174 and 356 of the moment, he would have been reduced to a Constitution, When dissolution already took minority government. That is proved by the place under Artic1e174, can the President subsequent events and immediately on the issue the proclamation under Article 356? I next day you will find that he had to sack four submit that there is no contradiction at all. Ministers. On 28th March, he has sacked The Governor derives his power from the Shri C. Chongsen, Shri, K.V. Keditsu, Shri President and from the Constitution. The Tiameren and Shri Khekiho Sema. What Supreme Court judgment, which my learned does it show? He tenders his advice as the fiend has cited, shows that the Governor is advice of the Council of Ministers which was nolthe servant of the President. Yes, how is wrong because it was not given by the not the servant of the president. The Council of Ministers; it was his personal President has the higher constitutional advice. That was absolutely proved next authorities., The Governor derives all his day and he had to sack his four Ministers. powers form the President. He derives his What does it show? It shows that he had no appointment form the Constitution. backing of his Ministers at all and on 1st April, immediately he had to sack further SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, three Ministers. They were Shri Buckchem Sir, I would request the hon. Member Shri Phom, Shri, N.T. Nakhro and Shri Yamakam. Sharad Dighe to kindly enlighten this House Thirteen MLAs from the ruling party had as to how there was a breakdown of withdrawn support to the Ministry. So, these constitutional machinery. That is the issue. subsequent events which took place within a day or two, show that the advice which he SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: There is what tendered to the Governor was his personal I was saying and I will again repeat. The advice, was not the advice of the Constitutional machinery has failed because Government, was not the advice tendered the chief Minister had lost the majority, he by the Council of Ministers. Therefore, I lost the support of the persons who were submit that the Governor ought not to have earlier supporting him. According to the acted upon it and he should not have Governor's report itself, the situation was accepted that advice. My information is that absolutely fluid and pressures were being when the Governor was on his way to brought for all plum posts. Such a Calcutta, a message went to him at Dimapur government could not have last for one day. and he came back immediately and then· I It he had continued for one day more, the am told that-within 20 minutes he paased government would have corne oown and that order of dissolution without applying his would have been reduced to a minority mind. I do not want to blame the Governor. government. He had every right to act according to his own conscience. But all this shows that the situation was such that there could not be a SHRI BAS DEB ACHARIA: The Motion care-takergovernment orthere could not be of Thanks was passed. The Vote on accounts any machinery if govemment which would was also passed. how can you say that the go on according to the Constitution. I, government did not enjoy the majority.? 381 Stat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Nagaland 382 Proclamation in fetation SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: That Is what I and the President can override all the orders have explained already. I will repeat, If you of the Govemor as far as this Constitution is want. The Motion of Thanks and the Vote on concerned. So, there Is no constitutional Accounts were passed few days ago. The difficulty at all. situation was changing every minute and every hour. What does the further fact that You have said: 'Consider also the the Chief Minister had to sack his own Govemor's dismissal'. On this background ministers show? It was a fact that he has to I would submit that it will be very delicate to sack his own ministers. (Interruptions) discuss that issue bec .... se then so many things which are not allowed by the rules will SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: You refer have to be discussed. \therefore, I would to the Sarkaria Commission. (Interruptions) urge upon the Opposition also to confine themselves to the present Statutory SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN Resolution. The Statutory Resolution is: (Kishanganj): Sir, which Constitution he is "The House approves the proclamation referring to? [Interruptions] issued". What has happened to the Governor, why has he not been dismissed SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: That shows - that subject is a very delicate subject and that the government has already been that subject should be kept aside. But the reduced to a minority. fact remains that so many allegations have been made against the Chief Secretary and You have been referring to the SaJkaria the investigation has taken place and he Commission so many times. I have got was not suspended in spite of the directions great respect for the Sarkaria Commission. given to that Sate Government. That tact It has hade very good suggestions. But the also has to be conSidered as far as this is political and constitutional provision is that concerned. the Sarkaria Commission is a Commission. Its sreport has neither been accepted by this Now, of course, about the pOlitical House nor by the Government, I will point approach, the Opposition leader has rightly out at least half-dozen recommendations said that we have to consider. I agree that which you will not accept. political implications have always to be considered while exercising rights under the I amtoldthatthe Sarkaria Commission's Constitution, which are discretionary rights report is being considered by the sub of the president or the Governor. But I committee of the Government and then the submit with great humility: How do you recommendations will be made effective, presume that the Central Government So, merely because it suits you, cannot cite cannot see the interest of the North West the Sarkaria. Commission. They are good provinces and It is only the OpposJtion whO" recommendations, we will discuss we will can see it and when they act, they will be accept and then they will come into force. alienated and why do you say that this acl But there is no particular recommendation itself is not in the interest of that State itself? which you have pointed to the effect that That State, according 10 my information and whenever the Governor has dissolved the according to several reports, is full of Assembly, the President should not issue corruption. The Government cannot "un proclamation. That is notthere in the Santaria there. Therefore, in fact this action will protect Commission Report at all. Therefore, what that State, this action is in the interest of the I submit us that constitutionally there is no people of that State. Therefore, there is contradiction, the President has full powers nothing to presume that because that to exercise his powers Indian Article 356, Assembly has been dissolved and the even though powers have already been caretakerGovemment has been dismissed, exercised by the Governor under Article now the whole thing is against the people's 174 of the Constitution because the Governor interests. The Congress Party also us a derives the whole power from the President politicai party, they have gOI also their 383 Stat. Res. reo approval APRIL 21,1992 to Naga/and 384 Proclamation in relation [Sh. Sharad Dighe] Intervened but once he .aid that as far as the decision of the Governorwas concerned, representatives there and it considers that under 174 he is not challenging It, rather he this action is In the interest of those States has accepted It, and last time when Shri ofthe North-West and therefore, it need not Jacob had submitted and accepted here be presumed that because the present's that the Governor is within his rights, and 'Rule is there that will Immediately alienate that he has not misused his office, but now the whole people, the will have a grudge when the Members of the ruling party have against the Govemment. Perhaps all those accepted It, their first spokesman stands up people must have welcomed this action .)f here and says that majority was noUhere the Central Government. nor any cabinet meeting was held. H I use the word Jhooth' (falsehood), you shall ask With these words, Sir, I support this I"Tle to withdraw It, but if I use the word statutory Resolution. 'UlilluS· then all the anger in my mind shall not find expression. Since arguments and [Translation] counter arguments are employed in the House and the Home Minister makes a SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. submission, the Government makes a Speaker, Sir, we are today engaged In a submission on its own after that the discussion which shows that the Congress Government spokesman, stands up here party has been taking such decisions for the had says it is wrong, he insults the entire last ten months especially about the eastern House and put his own Government in the regions which shows that neither has there dock, which makes us fbel pity and if I say.... been any changes in the last ten months in (Interruptions) ... feel I ashamed, its all right. their way of thinking more there is any kind of a worry in their mind about the security of Mr. Speaker, Sir, from the 9th to the the entire country and about the question of 26th of March, there is a sitting of the running the administration in the country in Assembly. At first the Assembly listens to accordence with the provisions of the the Address of the Governor, after which Constitution and especially aboutthe eastem there is a discussion on the Govemor's region which is considered to be the most Address and then motion us passed with sensitive boundary of the country. majority, H every second, every minute, every hour change takes place there-as our The proposal on which we are having a friend Digheji, who has gone out was saying discussion today, which the Home Minister that the situation changes moments by has just laid, I think the Constitution of India moment. I want to know when did this is being played with, though it has been moment begin? H 13 Members or 15 played with on several occasions in the past members resign from the Govemment and but the recent action on the part of the are ready to topple the Government and Government shows that no regard is left for since the Minister of Extemal affairs has the constitution in the eyes of the ruling gone there and was stating there, and when party. they had got a chance to topple the Government. who did them not do so? ""1 Speaker, Sir, just now our frKl()d hon. Sbared Digheji spoke a few words on SHRI RAM NAIK(BombayNulth):That the deCision of the Governor, i.e., the moment u& yet to come. dissolution of the Legislative Assembly and making the Government a care-taker SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. Government with Vanaja at its head. It Speaker, Sir, it was followed by the election appears to me that they did not hear the to the Rajya Sabha. During the elections, speech made by the Home Minister. When the external affairs Minister remained there hc.Lalji was speaking here, once the Home for four days, ... (lnterruptions) ..... The Minister-not once but several times, Minister of State in the Ministry of External 385 t;tat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1. 1914 {SAKAi to Nagaland 3136 Pro..;lamatlon In relation affairs .••. (Interruptions) ...... no. he had tape-recorded conversation, they should gone there perhaps because when there not say so pUblicity. The President has full was dispute with Nagaland. when an Ulth In the Governor. even on his removal agreement was reached. a condition was al'ld we have been tape-recording his ; thelll in it that the problem.of Nagaland Will die 1logue. Then the Budget was presented. be looked into by the Ministry of External It 10\ 'as passed in the e.vening on 26th. If the Affairs. But. they are possibly not aware and cirel 'Jmstances-kept changing moment by the Home Minister is possibly not aware of mOil lent even then. that moment has not the fact that India has moved much ahedd amv ed as yet? 15-20 people from of that. Gove mment side were ready to topple the Gover ·1\''l8nt. Mr. Speaker. Sir. so we must SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Perhaps, they und",,:: i[ca' Id these facts. As far as the decision have done what they were doing. 01 lila ( 20vemOr depends on the decision of VamUZt') cabinet. these people are saying SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES:What now tha t the Cabinet meeting was not held were we doing? at all. I challenge the Home Minister today that the house of the Governor. Secretariat SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: You had also or Cabine t Secretariat is at his disposal and gone. the facts c. an be collected from there through anybody. 13ut they are making such wrong SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Where statements ~ through their spokesman in this had I gone? House that the Cabinet Meeting was not held. The • iome Minster says abbut the AN HON'BlE MEMBER: Nagaland. Govemorth. 1t under Article 174 his decision was correct. i l1le Govemortookthe decision SHRI GEORGE FE':RNANDES: I had without scruti. ny. whether Cabinet meeting not been to Nagaland HiE; junior Minister had was held orno. t, and if held, when was it held. said so last time. I had s;aid it with challenge and sought proof, firsL .. (Interruptions] I [English} had not gone. I had gone. what was the result, I am ready for a discussion, but I am SHRI JAS\ NANT SINGH: With your not ready to tolerate it. I had not gone there. permission, if yo u yield, I would say this. But it is being repeated, If somebody abuses me outside the Hous.e, I can comprehend I would be gr. iteful if the hon. the Home soomewhat, nut they have the courage to Minister correct U~ >, should we be wrong on speak in the House that I had gone there ...... facts in this regart 1. I am informed that the (Interruptions) ...... A Minister came to me State cabinet met or ,26th Mareh and decided and told me that thEI tape recorded version to recommend for the dissolution of the of my conversion w'rth Governor is with him. House. It is CabinE It decision of the State Mr. Speaker, Sir, I challenge that, I did not Government and that the meeting took place have nay conversation even with the on the 26th of Maret.l. This is factually an Governorwhether I was in the Government assertion that I am ma, king' here. Hthis be at or out of it •. and he says he is possessing the 'liariance from wha t in.formation the tape-recorded version .. (Interruptions).... .• 'Governmt:'"r of Ind;" r, as a" u if this be not It means he adm'its the Governor's version correct, thlllO it is '1',.Jrnbent 011 the Union is tape· recorded ...... (Interruptions). They Home Minister to plac.e the c. ~orrect facts are telling me, I asked them to bring that. before the House. They should bring that version In the House and of they don't dare. they should bring It SHRIS.B. CHAVAN: Is itthecc. '"tention outside. Show It to thousands of people ofthehon.Memberthaton26th, ther.neeting outside. Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is no politicS as was held In which the decision to di. ssolve It ought to be. No responsible Governnnent the Hoses was taken and knowing th is full can talk like this. If they have the Govermor's well. even then the Governor whQ h. gd a 387 Stat. R8S. r8. ~oval APRIL 21,1992 to NagaJand 388 Proclamation in relation [Sh. S.B. Chavan] pursue the matter further because we 818 not. .• programme of going to Calcutta went to dlmapur and was to go to Calcutta [English]. (interruptions) We are not a debating society. SHRI JASWAtfT SINGH: May I repeat for the benefit of the Union Home Mln~ter MR. SPEAKER. Well, the hon.Home that what I have asserted is not the itinerary Minister says that he is going to reply. of the former Govemor of Nagland? I have Supposing he niakes a statement now and, stated here that to my Information, the supposing you say that it Is not correct and, Cabinet of Nagaland Government met on supposing we carry on the discussion only 26th and decided to recommend for the on that ground and If, supposing that the dissolution of the Assembly, whether the entire discussion on the proclamation is Cabinet's decision was known or Olot known delayed, that will not be proper. So, you to the Governor is not the pertinent matter make your assertion and the reply will be and If the Union Home Minister chooses to given. Even afterthat,lf you are not satisfied, go on a discussion of the itinerary if the you are will within the right to ask. Governor, then it is a different matter. Is this a fact of not is a sil'Jl)le assertion that I am SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar); a making. Of it be at variance from the fact, This Is a question, of fact. I have an official the Union Home Minister should Inform us. document with m£' which I have quoted and And if he does not, this canard that the even after that, rSlpeatedly from the ruling recommendation was made without the party side, Membe,rs have been intervening. Cabinet's advice should now be put at rest? Naturally, Mr.Femandes and myself, we wCluld like to know ",'hat is the Government's SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: You better wait stand in this regard. for my reply. MR.SPEAKER: All right. SHRIJASWANTSINGri:: I cannot wait. (Interruptions) SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: If once we are told that the recommendation was made by [Translation] the Chief Minister without consultation with the Cabinet that would be one position. Our 4SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: This is stand would be somewhat different. Even not the proper reply. So bow can we discuss then I would not say it has no validity. As I it? (Interruptions) pointed out, the proclamation of emergency is much more important. It is a pity that it is SHRI S.B. CHAVI\N: I know what all done without reference to the Cabinet you are going to say that's why I need not because It depends upon the Cabinet's give any reply. First you say, whatever you rules lof functioning. By itself, it does not want to say. become illegal. But in thit; particular case If thefac:t is known to us, perhaps ourresponse SHRI GEORGE FERNANDE=.S: Mr. wouit'l btl different and, therefore, it will be Speaker. In tms matter I as well as the whole bettelr If the Government .enlightens us on House seek your protection. The Congrass this point. (Interruptions) (I) party safs time and again in and outside the Hous, that it all was done without the E,HRIA CHARLES (Trivandrum): When .Cabinet's approval. If that is true, its a Mel nbsr quotes from a dClCument, is It not 'responsibility lives on the hon. Minister of the 1'8 sponslbliity and the duty of the Member Home Affairs and it Is our right 10 know trom quoUng tromthe documents" to authenticate him, because whatever Shri Dighe, has said and p -tace them on the TablE. of ti", House? just /lOW, it that is correct then. I will not (lntet ruptions ) 389,51&. Rws r8. approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Nagdit!lnd 390 Proclamation in felalion MA.SPEAKER: SHRI A. Charles; Legislative Assembly which was In please take your seat now (Interruptions). Session with effect form 16th March came to an end yesterday, the 26th SHRI RAM KAPSE (Thane): Sir, the March after passing the Motion of Home Minister's Silence Is equipment. Thanks on the Governor's Address and the demands for grants for the SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. corning year. The majority of the Speaker, Sir, we would like to submit that present Chief Minister was proved this decision was taken by the Cabinet and on the Floor of the Assembly. then the Chief Minister met the Govemor at 10.00 A.M. on 27th and communicated to [Translation] him the decision of the Cabinet on the very same day, After that the Govemor took the The people elected say after that decision and communicated it first of all to the President of India through the !elegram- [English]

[English] "The Chief Minister has favored a fresh mandate form the people because of various • I have dissolved the Nagaland pressures to which he has been subjected Legislative Assembly on the advice to. He feels the purposeful administration of the Chief Minister under Article cannot be carried on with Ministers" and 174 oftheconstitution. Chief Minister MLAs pressurising for more and more plum- allowed to continue in care-taker posts ....• capacity until fresh elections. Detailed message follows." [Translation]

[Translations] Atelegrammewas sent to the President. and then the same was sent to the Chief I am reading outfrom the document laid Minister also the 27th It states: down by the Govemmentonthe Table ofthe House last time In reply to a question. After [English] that he sent a detailed telegram and wireless message on 27th March wherein it was • I have received your letter advising stated by him:- to dissolve the Nagaland legislative Assembly. I have accepted your [English] advice since you have proved your majority in the Assembly yesterday. ·My dear respected President, Accordingly, I am dissolving the Assembly with Imrnedlateeffect. You This is in continuation of the are requested to continue as care- telephonic as well as earlier wireless taker Government until further orders message of even number of today regarding dissolution of the Nagaland Legislative Assembly·. [Translation]

[Translation] I would therefore, Uke to place it here before you that if the argument advanced by I want read the full taltas It Is available you lust now Is concede<1, It Is a b\undet on with everyone. But they further say. the part of the Governor. Because the Assembly had ~Iready been dissolved on [English/ the 21th and the care taker govemment had been formed. On April 2, article 356 of the • The Budget Session of the Nagaland " Constitution 16 enforced. Advice to Invoke 391 Stat. RfiS. reo approval APRIL 21, 1992 to Nagaland 392 Proclamation in relation [Sh. George Fernandes] MR. SPEAKER: Mr.Fernandes, you please continue. the provision of the article was given after due consideration by the Government and (Interruptions) the Home Minister. In the light of these facts Is It correct Whether the hon.Mlnister of [Translation] Home Affairs had suggested to the Hon.President that the decision given by the SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: George Sahb, Governor under article 174 was please control your anger while expressing unconstitutional; because be took decision your views so that we may understand why Ignoring the majority and secondly the Chief you are so furious. Minister placed the decision before the Govemor without convening the meeting of SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. the state cabinet. Thirdly, the Governor, Speaker, Sir, I would only say to the without a examining all these things, hon.Minister of Home Affairs that there Is a dissolved the Assembly. Therefore, limit of everything. I did not suggest It to him. immediate action should be taken against I said that there is a limit. You have started the Governor. Has the Government discussion over the statement of a person, submitted any such proposal to the Hon. who with great difficulty managed to break President? the party and got nothing. I am tell you just now about the person whom he has referred [English) \0 and whose statement he has placed.

SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I would like to MR.SPEAKER: No, no. inform the House that I was searching for the Report form the Advisor and now this Is [Interruptions} in my hands. I have also verified it. MR. SPEAKER: You are not allowed to SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: From speak against a person who Is not present which Advisor? here.

SHRIS.B.CHAVAN:Justaminute. We SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: He has have also tried to find our as to whether any mentioned his name. (Interruptions) " notice of the Cabinet Meeting was also given to all the Ministers. first Report is: [English]

"As of now, the Report is: We have no MR. SPEAKER: This is not going on record or minutes of any Cabinet Meeting record. recommending President's ~ule .... " [Translation} There is also the statement the ex- Cacinet Minister Shri Chonghsen. This is SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: That is statement which I have with me. But sir'lce why I have said that have said that he has I have nol placed it on the Table 01 (he raised a matter related to a person whose House, I would not like to read H -I, IS a name can not be mentioned here, such deputy Leaderof their party who has f'ulJllcity thing is raised here which can not be said that the Cabinet Meeting was nol held. recorded. (Interruptions)

(Interruptions) [English]

SHRI BASU DEB ACAHARIA: He was SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): purchased by you. (Interruptions) Such is the person's testimony. The Home 393 Stat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to NagaJallo 394 Proclamation in relation Minister wants 10 lell the House something [Translations} he has said •.. (Intenuptlons) SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: the MR. SPEAKER: There are two points. hon, Minister of Home Affairs Is giving the He said: Aadvisor has said something. And example as to what extent the Hmlts are this is the second. . being violated. I have got with me written requests of three Ministers. He following {Interruptions} was written on 30th March.

SHRI S.B. CHA\lAN: n you want the [EngllsttJ name of the Advisor, I am prepared to give the name of the Advisor. (Interruptions) They are Dr. K.Kath, Minister (Transport), Shri Khukivi, Mitlister of State SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I bow with (Art. and Culture) and Shri K.Kiko, Minister deference to your observations that the 'of State (Geology and Mining). They have Union Home Minister has quoted something said: that the Advisor has said. My point Is, even H you were to examine what he has said "In a letter dated 30.3.92 addressed about Advisor having said, allthatthe Advisor lothe President NPC, Mr. Chongshen is saying is that he Is not In possession ot has stated that we have withdrawn any minutes of such a Cabinet meeting. He our support from the Vamuzo's is not disputing .... Ministry and formed a separate party called NPC (Progressive) and the MR. SPEAKER: He said, "he has not said letter was signed by him as found". Deputy leader on NPC (Progressive). We have never [Interruptions} withdrawn our support from the leadership of Mr. Vamuzo and we SHRI JASWANT SINGH: The minutes never attended any meeting in taking are not available. Even the Advisor Is not the decision either for withdrawing disputing that such a Cabinet meeting ... the support from the Vaduzu's Ministry or forming a separate party MR. SPEAKER: This is exactly why, and that our signature in the Press the Horne Minister Is not there, he has to Releases issued by Mr. Chongshen depend on the report given to him. So he is and others are forged by some very careful in making the statement. politician with vested interests." [Interruptions} [Interruptions} [Interruptions} SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I am, of course, also not there just like the Home SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: Sir, Minister.. are they a party to it.

MR SPEAKER; That is why, you made MR C;PEAKER: Beg a pardon. a stattHncnt and he replied If, '1.

SHRI JASWANT SINGH. But I remain SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: Sir, unsatisfied. Is the State Minister of Home a party to It?

MR SPEAKER: That is perfectly all right let the discussion continue. MOHAN DEV:lf there signatures are forged, why they had not been dismised by [Interruptions} the Chief Minister? 395 Stat. Rt's. re. approval APRil 21, 1992 to Nagaland 3':16 P'oclamaltOn in relation SHRI SAIF YDDIN CHOUDHURY: I am circumstances prevailing there In which It only asking whether he Is also a party. was very risky to convene the Assembly there .... (interruptions)

[ Translation] SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I did not say like that. It was the Governor who has stated SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. this; you should have faith in Speaker. Sir, I would like to make one him. (Interruptions) clarification. The Govemor has taken a decision. Since the Home Ministry does SHRIGEORGE FERNANDES: You are every work in the name of the President, supporting him in the House on that there would be nothing more derogotory to issue. (Interruptions) the Constitution than questioning the decision taken by the Governor particularly SHRIS.B.CHAVAN:TheGovernorwill In regard to the action taken during the have to be supported ..... (lnterruption) period 27th March to 2 April. I don't refer to decision taken by the Governor under Rule SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Then 174 here. Under Rule 356 President's order the whole responsibility is yours. You believe was issued. Atthe time of starting discussion that incident. ... (lntemlptions) Shri Rabi Ray and other Members referred to the matter related to Manipur as to how Mr. Speaker, Sir, he has said that the the Chief Minister and the Government Govemorwill have to be supported. On one gave an assurance to prove their majority in side he supports the one Governor, but on the House within ten days and have taken the other side he does not support the next overthe power. Then the Governor proposed Governor and after wards, the Govemor is to convene the Assembly. A few hours removed. Will the Hon. Minister of Home before, the meeting of the Assembly was Affairs state whether he is in favour of got postponed at the order of the hon. changing the Governors Minister of Home Affairs. frequently. (Interruptions) Just now it was stated that it was very difficult to convene a SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: This is wrong. meeting of the Assembly in Manipur. But there was no reference to convene the SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: It Assembly in Nagaland. The meeting of the means that you do not do even your own Assembly was concluded on 26th. There work ...... (lnterruptions) ...... was a conspiracy to topple the Vamujo Govemment and to instal the Congress SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: It shows to what Government there ..... (lnterruptions) There extent you are not speaking the truth, th is il' was no problem in calling the Assembly an example of it....(Interruptions) .... there. The Government of Manipur, which was in majority, had proposed to dissolve SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Your the Assembly. Except the Congress, all the submission is that you did not favour what other political parties have demanded happened in Manipur. Then you should. convening of the Assembly. The entire immediately rectify the error. I made this proce

sHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I am Resort to courts has been frequent speaking very cautiously. during the life period of the present Assembly. Courts yet to resolve 15 MR. SPEAKER: I have no objection to disqualified MLAs. As a result 15 your speaking. constituencies have remained unrepresented for more than 15 SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I have months. Further 10 MLAs are involved written a letter to you in the morning seeking in yet another case in Guwahati Hig h permission to table these documents. You Court .. said that according to rule a copy should be submitted prior to laying it on the Table of Till now there is no mention of the law the House. But I had not done so. and order disturbance.

MR. SPEAKER: I have no objection. • The Chief Minister has favoured a Please speak. fresh mandate from the people because various pressures to which SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: he has been subjected to.· Therefore, we would like to know as to how law and order was neglected andthe situation In this also there is no mention of law became fluid. I am reading It, but the time I and order problem. will take In reading these extracts from the reports should he adjusted against the time • He feels that purposeful allotted to the Home Minister. administration canl'lSlt be carried on 399 Stat. Rss. r8 approval APRIL 21, H~92 to NagaIand 400 Proclamation in rlliation ISh. George Fernandes] entire mtlssage sent to the President, you are saying that Article 356 will be InvoktJd, with ministers and MLAs pressuring You should have stopped at Article 174... more and more plum posts. It may also be recalltJd that as earty as SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: According to you December 1990 I had pointtJd out Article 174 cannot be applied In this regard. that In a 60 Member House, 40 MLAs had changed party affiliations SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Why? sometime or other and that as many as 59, 'BptJ8t, flftynine members of SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Because the issue the present Assembly had already was of law and order. enjoytJd ministerial berths." SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Is it is there any mention of law and order your opinion or are you referring to my disturbance? opinion?

• After being made minister, it has SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I am referring to always been the tendency for those your opinion-- ministers with less important portfolios. In the process law and SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: What order has been neglected.- is your opinion regarding Article 174?

SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Now you SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. understand. I understand correctly as in it. Speaker, Sir, I would like to tell the Home Minister that no more injustice can be done SHRI M.M. JACOB: Ministers were with the Constitution than invoking article pressurising for plum posts. In the ptocess 356 on the basis of a brief message of the law and order has been neglected. Governor. Mr. Speaker, Sir, when this issue was raised here last time, Shri Jacob had [ Translation] said several things in this regard and I am quoting his sentence, so that the question of· SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: There Privilege on this .... was no mention of law and order problem or calling Assembly or not calling it. The MR. SPEAKER: My work load is Govemment was functioning in Nagaland. increasing very much-- There was no mention of any problem till the morning of that day. What argument do SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: You you want to put forward in this regard? have to take it up.

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Article the 356 does not talk about It is at page 16791 of Part-II Proceedings neglect of law and order. Article 356 other than Questions and Answers, of April speaks about Constitutional nr ... ak 3, 1992. I am now '1:;,)ting the Minister of dow Il. Where is the Constitutional break State for Home Aflalfs. down Mr. Home Minister? ·'n the Governor's report, the first [ Translation] opening thing he says is: 'I am complied to dissolve the State Legislature because there is no By drawing upon this one sentence of stability among the Members-. the Governor-- the sentence which you should have taken in the context of the Where is that? 401 Stat, HdS. re.ljlppfovaJ VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to IvdgaJand 402 Proclal/latlon in relation SHRI M,M, JACOB: I have'l'8peatedly these things In this House. said on the floor of the House that I am not quoting the Governor's report; 1 am only [English) saying the gist of 1t(lnt6rruptions) "The first point I mentioned Is SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: It is regarding Instability being there. It within quotes. He further says: has been accepted and reported by the Govemor". "That Is one reason. The other reason he gives is that the law and order [ Translation) situation Is in jeopardy." Where are all these things mentioned Where is it? Where does he say that the by you? law and order situation Is In Jeopardy In the statement of the Governor that you have [English] quoted here? He further says, Mr. Speaker, Sir, SHRIMMJACOB:Whatlsthemeaning of fluid situation? 1do no understand you. " Knowing fully well the scenario, the What Is fluid situation.? Governor says that he is not happy with the law and order situation." SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Ido not know. You should tell us. Where is it? [ Translation] [ Translation) These statements have been made by When Shri Lal K. Advani interrupted you. here and you also Intervened, then he says: [English] [English) Why are you asking me to interpret "I have not quoted from the report; 1am what you have said?(IntemJptions) just telling the gist" 17.00 hrs. [ Translation] [Trans/ation] If this is the gist, where Is the report? I am repeating this sentence once again: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would not like to discussconstifutional matters here, because He further says: we had adetailed discussion on these issues on Apr113,butoutofsheerhungerforpower, "The constitutional break down, which The Centre misused the\emergency is the requirement under Article 356; provisions of the Constitution and Imposed was very much visiblf' there. That Is ArtIcle 35h. to dilute the decision of the State why Article 356 comes In. It is because Govemorto allow Shri Vamuzo to continues the constitutional break down is there. as Caretaker Chief Minister. Sir, now let me That is what 1have said. The Governor come to the last point and that Is that of the informed us that there is no stability Governor's dismissal. You have said in the Government. Instability Is something in this regard here, earlier ...... there.' MR. SPEAKER: 1have to say only one [ Translation) thing. A decision will be taken as per the Where are all these things? You said all wishes of all the Members. Today, actually 403 Stat. Res. re. approval APRIL 21, 1992 to Nags/and 404 Proclamation In relation we are discussing the proclamation Issued SHRI JASWAtff SINGH: It would be in regard to Nagaland. If you want to discuss better if the Home Minister spe,ks less, the Governor's dismissal alongwlth it, It otherwise It would only create prQblems. won't be out of context,. rather It would be relevant, but you shouldn't raise any. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: The objections, if the Members on this side react Governor himself In his statement has to your points. ,,'UI8d the charges being levelled against hlmMd he is right on his accord, but has't SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: the Horne Minister got any responsibility to Therefore, I believe that we cannot halle reapond to the Governor's statement? H a objections to the false propoganda bemg propaganda is being carried out against the carried out against the Govemor outside the Govemorthat he had established links with House. Thetenn in English languageforthi. underground Naga rebels and was aiding Is 'Dlslnformation'. Md abetting them, that he was supporting Christian Missionaries, then isn't it the MR. SPEAKER: As the Govemor Is not responsibility of the Home Minister to react present in the House, It won't be proper to to these allegations: say anything against him, and if at all one has to say something, one should restrict [English] himself to only relevant and ne&ssary points. However, if something is said in his support, SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: He is saying then the Members on the other side have indirectly what he cannot say directly. got the right to explain. [ Translation] SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. Speaker, Sir, my objection is to the Home SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: So, the Minister rising the matter here. He said that Home Minister chose to maintain silence he would not like to discuss the dismissal of over It. Hthe Home Minster doesn't want us the Governor inside the House. Does It to take up such matters for discussion, then mean that one can discuss it outside? he should at least refute the charges. still we feel it necessary to mention here that when MR. SPEAKER: If you raise some issue the Governor was sacked, It was said that here, he will respond to it. despite Presidential orders, the Governor refused to remove the Chief Secretary and SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Like it after that, the.povemment was left with no was said that he was supporting the option, but to remove him. I hope that the missionaries, it was also said about him Home Minister won't object to our saying that ..... ( Interruptions) that this way the reason for the Governor's dismissal. SHRI S.B. CHA VAN: Please respond to whatever is bejng said in the House. We Even a few editorials appeared to the are not responSible for whatever is being effect thai the Govemortried to shield some said outsicfe. The responsibility for that lies corrupt officials and under the onlhe shoulders of those who have said it. circumstances, the President was left with no altern_live but to sack him. I have with MR. SPEAKER: Please listen, if me a letter written by the Nagaland Chief someone repeats the Home Minister'S Minlater to a Union Minister. statement outside the House, how can you hold the Home Minister responsible for it? "During my last visit to Oelhi;;AIave You can question him on the statement he brought to your kind notice the has made in the House. The maximum you" case ofShri Ahluwalia an IASoffioer can ask Is regarding his statement. H you of Ngaland cadre. As per our ask questions about others, it won't do. discussion, you were to Inform me 405 Stat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1.1914 (SAKA) to Naga/and 406 Proclamation in relation over telephone about the case; but [English) so far no information to this effect has been received. I am. therefore. "The Government of Nagaland writing this letters to enquire about hereby withdrawas the consent the same. sanction (If any) given to the members of the Deihl Special pora The CBI had registered a case Establishment under section in against himln March. 1987. Nearly regard to a matter against Shrl 27 months have elapsed but so S.S. Ahuwalia. lAS Financial far. no charge-sheet could be Commissioner (previously framed against him. Normally. in a Commissioner and Secretary. case of this nature, even relatives labour and Employment). are harassed as there has been an Goverpment of Nagaland. Kohima attempt to tag the properties of his with Immediate effect. By order relatives with his name. According and in the name of the Governor of to records. the facts of the case are Nagaland. Under Secretary to the as follows." Government of Nagaland."

[ Translation) This letter was dated the 2~rd November. 1989. [ Translation) There are three things mentioned here- one pertaining to house. second pertaining This was Issued on November23. 1989. to land and third regarding a truck belonging when Shri Jamir was still the Chief Minister. to his relative. Here. I will also read out a letter dated January 22. This is not an official letter, so [English) there should be no objection to it. but in this letter. there is a reference to a very • On the face of the facts stated above. responsible person. I will mention his name I do not find any strong reasons to continue later on. It was written to the Prime Minister. the case against the officer. May. I, therefore. request you to personally look into this case (English] and do the needful?" "Dear Prime Minister. this is further [Translation] to my D.O. letter of even number dated 4th December 1986 regarding Shri S.S. Ahluwalia, as lAS officer of This letter was written by the Nagaland Nagaland cadre." Chief Minister to the Minister in-charge of [ Translation) Personnel, Public Grievances etc •. This letter dated June 17. 1989 was sent to Shri MR. SPEAKER: look. Mr. Jamir is not Chidambaram, the then Ministerof State for present in the House and you are quoting his the Department of Personnel. Public letter. There are many others present in the Grievances and pensions by Shri S.C. Jamir. House. who might object to it. the then State Cheit Minister. (English) Similarly in another official order issued SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I will by the Nagaland Government on November authenticate and lay it on the Table with 23, it was mentioned that. your permission. Sir .

• As the speaker subsequently did not accord the necessary permission. the paper/dOCument was not treated as laid on the Table. 407 Stat. Res. reo approval APRIL 21,1992 to Nagaland 408 Proclamation In relation (Sh. George Fernandes] This was signed by Shrl Hoklshe Sema, formerChief Mlnlsterof Nagaland and former "I have personally gone Into the Chief Minister of Nagaland Jeader of your case. There Is no basis for the party. accusations and these accusations are not true at all." [ Translation]

SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Is he prepared to I wlUnot .reply to that point raised by the take the responsibility that the officer against Home Minister. So far as the question of whom the suspension orders were issued corruption is concerned, we are having a lot was, In fact, given a clean chit by everybody of discussion about It; but I am not going Into ahd there is no corruption that. I am specific only upto the matter that involved?( Interruptions) concerns the document and that has been made the basis for the dismissal of the [Translation] Governor. You may talk about corruption, about North-East, and about the happenings in the world, but I am place· before you SHRl GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. many documents like the letters of the Chief Speaker, Sir, I am drawing your attention Ministers, signature of the Governor, the towards the letter writt~n by then Chief nptification published In Nagaland gazette. Minister Shri S.C. Jamir and also towards the order of the Nagaland Governor issued What did Dr. Thomas say? Dr. Thomas under the order of the State Governor" in simply said what his advisor has said. I November, 1989, when Shri Jamir was stili quote his words before you right now- the Chief Minister. The letter which I am going to read out now is dated January 22, [English] 1992, i.e. about three months back, exactly three months back. "On 7th April, the newly appointed Advisor to Governor called on me (English] asked for my signature on a typed sheet of paper· brought by him "The case is pending forthe past five from Delhi for suspending the Chief years and nothing has been proved Secretary. I was also shown a against the officer. It is unnecessary photo -copy of the sanction for harassment to the officer who Is prosecution Issued by the performing his duties with devotion Department of personnel against and in the best interest of the nation the officer.· In this border and sensitive St,ate. I shall therefore request you to close SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA (Midnapore): the case No. RC -1/87 againsllhe Who is that advisor? officer and treat my letter of even number dated 4th December 1986 SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I do as with~rawn.1 may add here that my not know! He is a nameless person-and as . successor two Chief Ministers Sf Shri far as I am concerned, he Is faceless too S.C. Jamir and Vamuzo have also because here it is only stated, 'advisor'. written on the same lines earlier. In view of this, I request you to kindly [ Translation] give your personal attention to this matter and I shall be very grateful H You are behaving like with the Govemor. you kindly close this case early." You have also said here about the

• As the Speaker subsequently did not accord the necessary perml.sslon, the papers documents were not treated as laid on the Table. 409Stat. Res. reo approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Nagaland 410 Proclamation in relation constitutional authority, that It is a question oppose It. Moreover,l hope that the House of showing resped to the constitutional will not only vote against it rather this House authority. Are you giving him due resped by will defeatthe motion that you have brought putting a paper before him and asking him forward before this House for approval under to sign thereon? leave aside the office of the Article 356. The House will not allow your Govemor and Constitutional authority. no misdeeds and the joke played with the person having a bit of self-rasped will accept constitution to go scot free so that such a. such a thing. The Govemor has spoken the situation does not arise in future and truth. He should be shown respect by this therefore, this motion should not bP. passed. House, because he has declined to put his signature. He has made it clear that [English] impoSition of president rule under the article 356 does not mean that the constitutional SHRI A. CHARLES: Mr. Speaker, Sir. I process ends. It does not mean that you can am grateful to you for having given f1)e an dismiss any employee of the State by the opportunity to speak and also to the hon. dictate from Delhi; and if you have the right, Members on the other side for giving me why did you not dismiss him rightfrom here? such a warm reception. Insulting why did you try to obtain the signature of the Gov.mor by insulting him, I need not respect the sequence of and much time has passed since the events that had taken place in Nagaland in Govemor was removed, but Ahluwalia still the last few years, to be more particularfrom continues to be your principal Secretary. the year 1989 onwards. In one sentence I can say that they were following the polley Therefore, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have of' Ayaran and Gyaran'. The sequence of participated in this discussion with a feeling events that had taken place there does not of great anguish and I know what is the give credit either to the Parliamentary thinking of the Government side on matters democracy or to the great virtues that have like these that are brought before this House been preached by the Members on the . and how the Government side behaves only other side. to serve its motives like defecting some members to its side of obtaining some votes I would like to bring to the notice of the of members. But today I would like to warn august House that in the year 1989 there the Government about North-East that by was an election to the Assembly. The fact informing, consulting and taking the Home remains that the Congress (1) won with a Ministry into confidence the Chief Minister massive mandate and in the assembly of 60 of the State, Shrl Vamuzo has been MlAs Shrl Jamir headed the Government promoting the underground groups there to with the support of 36 MlAs. That fact has come out and surrender their arms. You do unfortunately been overlooked by most of not like this action of theirs now, you do not the Members on the other side. That want that all those activities that are taking happened thereafter, I must say, was very place In the North East, the insurgency in shocking and was against the normal the State should end. Your motive is that procedure of the Parliament. Every provision such an insurgency should continue. ofthe Anti- Defection law was violated. I am Besides, the joke being played upon the not pointing out any finger towards anybody entire' nation is evident to us from this incident. but the fact remains that after one year the and here once again I would ask the defection had taken place. Shrl George Govemment that we would stand obliged If Fernandes has left the House; I would like the hon. Home Minister wishes to end this to ask him who was at the Centre at that discUSSion, not giving chance forthe creation time. I do not accuse the then Central of new problems, must withdraw notification Govemment for encouraging defection but under article 356 and the provisions under 'there Is no doubt that they drew ln$piratiM the constitution. And if this Is not acceptable from Delhi for the defection and for the to the hon. Home Minister, then we will subsequentevenm. 411 Stat. Res. reo approval APRIL 21,1992 to Nagaland 412 Proclamation in relation [Sh. A. Charles] The disqualification of the MLAs is a matter of sub judice. Any action change the Sir, the dissolution of the assembly status quobeforethe Supreme Court passed was ordered by the Govemor when a case the final judgment would only worsen ttie about 13 MLAs was pending in the Supreme relationship of the judiciary and the Court. when that case is still pending in the Legislature. So, also the high Offices of the Supreme Court, I would say that It was most Governor andthe Speaker has been reduced unfortunate that such a very very hastily to the status of unofficial power brokers and action was taken. In this connection I would the confidence of the public on the Impartiality also like to bring to the notice of this august of persons hOlding such high ort.U:iS have House lh,l\ three months back the former unfortunately been eroded. whdl '& the role Chief Minister Shri .Jdmir had staked his of trot; Govemor? clain to for the Ministry. He gave a list of MLAs to prove his majority. He was advised Much has been said about the Center- by the Governor to wait for some more State relations and the Sarkaria Commission months till the Judgement of the Supreme Report. The hon. Leader of the Opposition Court about disqualification of 13 MLAs is has been extensively quoting form the delivered." So, when the former Chief Report of the Sarkaria Commission on the Minister Mr. Jamir staked a claim, the Centre-State relations. Sir,l would also like Governor advised him to wait till the to quote from that very Report. I am quoting judgement of the Supreme Court. from Page 120, para 4.5.02:

Mr. Dighe, just now mentioned the • There is an important area, though names of seven Cabinet Ministers who have limited and subject to constitutional been sacked by the Chief Minister. There is constraints, within which he acts in another list of 15 MLAs who have deserted the exercise of his discretion. It will them and left the Party. I wonder, If an bear reiteration that there are more administration is handed over to the outgoing than one facet of his role. As a Chief Minister, who else in the Party remain, 'bridge' between the Union and the except himself. Is it not a fact that as a result State, he can foster better of dissolution of the assembly this has understanding between them and happened? remove such misapprehensions as may be souring their relations. He is Sir, on 20.3.92, there was an article in sentinel of the Constitution. He is a Indian Express 'The Governor dismissed live link or channel between the Nagaland Assembly, Center taken by Union and the State. As such Iink,lt Surprise'. We know thatthe media in a way is his duty to keep the Union informed ~re criticising the action of the Central of the affairs of the State Government. They are of the view that the Administration, whenever he feels imposition of Article 356 was not in keeping that matters are not going in with the normal procedure that has to be accordance with the Constitution, followed under the Constitution. or there are developments endangering the secUrity or integrity Sir, I do understand the right of a of the country. The Govemor thus Governor to dissolve the Assembly. Though assists the Union in discharging its the Govemor is permitted to dissolve the responsibilities towards.the States.· Legislature, the normal practice that is followed is to first inform the President orthe This is a suggestion in regard to the Central Government before such a Institution and the role of the Governor dissolution. But in this case, everything was given by the Sakarla Commission. I may done in a haste behind the back of either the humbly ask a question to the hon. Members Rashtrapati or the Central Government. on that side of the House. Is the ~ction of the 413 SId' Res. reo approval VAISAKHA " 1914 (SAKA) to Nagaland 414 Proclamation In relation Governor in keeping with the already stated, that most of the media while recommendations of the Sarkaria giving facts or commending on the action Commission which has been quoted here have been in a way criticising the action of for the last several years whenever that the Union Govemment. But In The Findu suits the convenience of those hon. dated 30th of March, while giving the news Members? Has he actedasa bridge between items it was stated "What was even more the Union and the state. surprising was the readiness with which the Govemor acted even without Informing the But, quite unfortunately, a few days Centre. The dissolution ofthe Assembly has back, d question was raised -:It)out the come as a fait acconpll. And ",t Home Nagala".' Issue during the Z",.o Hour. I Minister, S.B. Chavan, who t--" .....,,,If was mentio""d that we were handicapped taken unaware, told Parliament in rt>iJiy to a because none of the Information had been question that the Law Ministry was being given to us. And even today Members on the consulted in the matter. There are not many other side have been quoting extensively cases In the Constitution history of a from various correspondence. Who is giving Govemortaking a decision of the kind of his them those correspondence? I am sorry to own. point out that the high Office has been a bridge between the Opposition and his Now, this has all come In the papers. Office; and there is no Intention to assist the These views have been expressed by those Union Govemment and the President as who have been criticising the action of the has been suggested in the Sarkaria Central Government. Commission Report. Now I would like to draw the attention or Again about the dissolution of the the House to Article 356. They have Assembly, I would like to draw the attention extensively quoted from the Sarkaria of the House to the recommendation of the Commission Report. I am also quoting from Sarkaria Commission on page 128 para there. 4.11.09. It reads as follows: MR. SPEAKER: You have made very • It was made clear by Dr. good points. Ambedkarthat the pleasure should not continue when the Ministry had SHRI A. CHARLES: Now I would like to lost the confidence of the quote from page 179, para 6.8.04 of the Assembly; and the moment this Sarkaria Commission Report about Article happened, theGovernorwould use 356. It reads as follows: his 'pleasure' to dismiss It. In the result, the Governorcannot dismiss "If It Is not possible for such a his Council of Ministers so long as government to be installed and if they continue to command the fresh elections can be held without majority, and conversely he is avoidable delay, he shQuld ask the bound to dismiss them, If they lose outgoing Ministry, if there is one, to the same but do not reslgn.· continue as a caretaker government, provided the Ministry ·So, here is a case of a Government was defeated soley on a major which has lost maJority. The case of 15 policy issue, unconnected with any MLAs Is In the Supreme Court and the allegations of maladministration seven Cabinet Ministers have resigned;and or corruption and is agreeable to 13 MLAs have been disqualified, who else is continue." left? How can the Governor say that the Government there, has the majority? MR. SPEAKER: That i~ nor necessary .. What Is more surprising Is, as I have On that point. the law Is very clear. 415Stat. Res. reo approval APRIL 21, 1992 10 NagaJand 416 Proclamation in rB/ation SHRI A. CHARLES: This Is a very Government has not touched a single particular point. The caretaker Government Governor. It Is an unfortunate story that has can be allowed to continue only if the happened In Nagaland, under the force of Ministry was defeated on a major policy circumstances. Shri George Fernandes Is issue. This is a recommendation of the not here. He referred to the breaking down Commission. What I mean Is, even of the law and order. What does he mean by according to the recommendation of the saying that there was a total neglect of law Sarkaria Commission, what had happened and order? Is there any difference between cannot be justified under any circumstances. the neglect of law and order and breaking There are many deeds that cannot be legally down of accordance with law and order? faultsr.. ,· :.Jut are ethically unpardonable. I So, all that has betlr> 10ne by the Central have "Hong feeling that all that has Govemment was In Constitution, under the happened :s against parliamentary nonns, moral authority of the Constitution. I stand to against the values and morals and against support with all my strength the notification all norms of constitutional property. The supporting the Imposition of President's Rule ugly haste with which the Assembly was in Nagaland under Article 356 of the dissolved and the elected Members have Constitution. been sacked cannot be morally justified. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Basu DebAcharia. Much has been said about the way in In your able manner you will make your which the Governor has been removed. I points In a very short time, I suppose. am not going to talk on that. But I would like to draw the attention of this august House SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: I will be what had happened when the National Front very brief and I will try to elaborate. I will not Government was here. About 13 Governors repeat those points which have already were compelled to resign. been mentioned by the Members on this side. In Kerala the then Governor was telephonically asked from the Rashtrapatii MR. SPEAKER: Thank you very much. Bhavan to submit the resignation. She That is exactly what we want. prepared her resignation. A special messenger was sent. Then only they came SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: to understand that the Assembly was to submitted a notice of a Motion also meet on the next day and the Governor had Disapproval. Motion, and for revocation of to discharge the constitutional responsibility the p'roclamation under Article 356 in of addressing the Assembly. There was a Nagaland. And I was told that my Motion crisis. So, again a message was sent from has not been accepted. here asking her nclto submit the resignation till that constitutional responsibility was MR. SPEAKER: What is that Motion? discharged. The Govemor refused. There You do not have to mention the notices of was pressure from Delhi and finally the in the motion in the House. That is not the view of the high nonns that have been practice. if you start mentioning the notices followed by the Congress, the Governor given to the Secretariat of the House then addressed the Assembly. It is a disgrace we shall have to deal with more than two because in all the newspapers it was lakhs of notices on the floor of the House. questioned, whether the Governor the Govemor had resigned or she was in office, • SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: That was and as to who was addressing the Assembly. about the revocation of the notification under This is what happened then. And now they Article 356 Imposing President's Rule in are talking here about values. Nagaland.

Now ten months are over after this MR.SPEAKER:Youcometothepolnt. Government has come to power. This You have the opportunity to speak. 417 Stat. R8S. reo approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Nagaland 4 18 Proclamation in r81ation SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: All of us not been good and has not been normal. I think that the Proclamation which was made would like to know as to why President's about Nagaland is quite a ¥iolation of the Rule had been imposed In Nagaland and Constitution. The Constitution is very clear why Article 356 had been imposed in as to when Article 356 can be imposed. In Nagaland. Nagaland, the Govemorhad acted according to the Constitution, according to the advice The Central Govemment is trying to of the Chief Minister and the Cabinet, which destablise the North Eastern States- enjoyed the majority at that point of time. Mizoram, then Manlpur and then Nagaland. The Chief Minister of Nagaland advised the Govemor to dissolve the Assp.mbly and MR. SPEAKER: Pieasa COlli lude. have a fresh mandate, a fresh e~ctlon. He had very clearly stated this in his report. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Sir, why are you ringing the bell? When a brief statement was made by the Minister of State for Home Affairs, we MR. SPEAKER: nr.:!re was an demanded the report of the Governor and agreement between you and me that you we wanted to know whether the Governor will make only a brief speech. had recommended for the proclamation of Article 356; whether he had categorically SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: I will and clearly stated that the State of Nagaland speak upto 6 0' Clock. could not be run according to the Constitution. This is what is there in Article MR. SPEAKER: You cannot penalise 356. Article 356 can be proclaimed not only all the Members. when the law and order breaks down but also the State cannot be run according to SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: I will the Constitution. But nowhere in his report speak upto 6 0' Clock. he has stated this. Immediately after he took this decision, he informed the President that MR. SPEAKER: That is not allowed. the Assembly had been dissolved and a care-taker Ministry had been appointed to SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Other have a fresh mandate, a fresh eledion. He Members have spoken for one hour. took this decision according to the Constitution. Under Article 174 (2), he MR. SPEAKER: That is why you do not immediately informed the President of India have to repeat the points . that he had no other option except to dissolve the Assembly to have a fresh poll. He had ( Interruptions) also stated in his report as to why he took that decision. But it was misquoted by the SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: The Minister of State for Home Affairs, misuse of Article 356 was done on a number of times. we have the experience how a non- Shri Jacob when he was making a Congress (1) Government of Kerala was statement on the floor of the House. And we dissolved in 1959 by imposing Article 356. wanted to know what exadly was there in You are very much aware of what Dr. the Govemor's Report; whethertheGovemor B.R.Ambedkar whose Birth Centenary had had stated that there was a clear break- / been observed on 14th of April, observed down of law and order; whether the State of regarding imposition of article 356. You are Nagaland could not be run according to the very much aware that when this Article 356 Constitution. But nowhere he had stated was being inserted in the Constitution of this. What he had stated was that the law India, he had observed that Article 356 and order had been neglected. In a number would be there but this would be used very of States in our country, law and order has sparing Iy. But, what have we seen in the last been negleded,law and order situation has forty four years? a number of times this 419 Slat Res. reo approval APRIL 21,1992 to NagaJand 420 Proclamation in relation [Sh. Basu Deb Acharia] SHRI M.R. KADAMBUR JANARTHANAN: (Tlrunelveli): How did the Article 356 was Imposed In a very partisan people react to that? ... (Interruptlons). manner. The Sarkarla Commission also observed that out of 56 times, 27 times this Article 356 was imposed in a partisan SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Whether manner. This Article 356 was Imposed that was the violation of the Constitution or when there were different parties In power In not, whether the recommendation of the the Centre and the states and the State Governor is mandatory or not, the Home Govemments were dissolved. Hut. herein MinisterwlU make it Clfooirto the House. This this particularcase. in the State I)' Nagaland, was categorically madt! ' ·.... if in the Supreme the Governor acted accorOlng to the Court illdgement in the caSt! vI Dr. Reghukul Constitution and challenged publicly when Tilal\, rttlerred to by other Members, that the some allegations were made against the Governor is not subservient to the Central Governor. We have not seen any Government. Govemor is not a servant of contradiction by the Government. The the Central Govemment. May be he is a Govemor has challenged the allegation made liaison between the Central Government by the Central Government. and the State Govemment. Butthe Governor has some power and he has to act according The SaJ'1(aria Commission had observed to the Constitution. And here, by proclaiming regarding the imposition of Article 356 when Article 356 in the State of Nagaland, the this can be used, when this should be used. Central Government has violated the The Sarkari a Commission has stated very Constitution. It has violated article 356. why? categorically and very clearly that Article Because the Congress Party is afraid of 356 be used when there is not only a facing the election, because the Assembly breakdown of law and order but also when was dissolved only to have a fresh election, there is a Constitutional breakdown. fresh mandate. When in West Bengal, the Cabinet took a decision seven months before its term was to expire and when the Chief May I know from the Home Minister Minister recommended for the desolation of whether there was a Constitutional . the Assembly to have a fresh mandate, then breakdown. The neglect of law and order what was the role of the Congress(1) party tent amounts to the Constitutional in West Bengal? They demaneded the breakdown. Did the Governor not act imposition of President's rule in West Bengal. according to the Constitution? We have But that was not done in West Bengal seen how the Governor of Bihar was because the Cabinet took decision to removed. He is a Member ofthis House. He dissolve the Assembly to have a fresh is out colleague. why was he removed? Why mandate. In Nagaland also, the Cabinet was he asked to tender resignation? enjoyed majority on that particular date Because he said the Govemor's speech when the cabinet meeting was held on 24th prepared by the Council of Ministers of March. He cannot challenge that. The Bihar. There was some criticism about the notification was not there about the Cabinet action of the Central Government. Because meeting but the Cabinet meeting was held the Governor of Bihar acted according to the and the Cabinet took the decision. The Constitution, he was· removed. The Tamil Cabinet had the majority support in the Nadu Assembly was dissolved when Bamala Assembly. May be fifteen members were was the Governor of Tamil Nadu. He was disqualified by the Speaker but their case is asked to submit a report. He refused to still pending. So, the Cabinet, having twenty- submit a report against the state four members in the ruling party out of the Govemment. That was his fault and he was forty, enjoyed majority. They held a meeting removed by the Central Government and and recommended forthe dissolution of the the Assembly was dissolved. Assembly and asked for a fresh poll. 421 Stat. Res. re approval VAISAKHA 1,1914 (SAKA) to Nagaland 412 Prv.;lamation in relation 17.49h.... MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please conclude. (MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chaltl SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Sir, Nagaland is one of the Important States in What does this Indicate? The then the North East. It was mentioned that there Chief Minister Shri Vamuzo, particularly in will be alienation there. Shri Sontosh Mohan the North Eastem States, was trying to unify Dev Is not here now. the people and was trying to isolate the insurgency In the North Easl«.n States, SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA particularly in Nagaland. This " .. lnoritarian (Andaman and Nocobar): He Will LUme steps of the Central Government will encourage the insurgency in the North SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: He is not Eastern stdles. This partisan action of the here now. When he was here. he became Central Government to have their own man very much angry when Shri Advani at the helm of the affairs in Nagaland, to mentioned about alienation of the people of appoint a Govemor of their own choice and that area. He became very angry. We have then to hold elections in Nagaland to capture seen how Congress (1) rule was Imposed in the power, is not correct. By this partisan Tripura. He had also the experience there. and opportunistic outlook, the Central He was there at the time of election. Govemment- as inthe past -in this case also have blatantly violated the Constitution. We SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: We are afraid .... had free and fair election. the people gave mandate to the Congress. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Acharia, please conclude. There are others also who SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: The are eager to participate in the discussion. greatest joke of the century is the free and fair election in Tripura. Everybody knows SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Sir, I will what you did in Tripura and what is happening conclude at 6 O'Clock. there now. We know what situation you are facing and what we are facing there. You are MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. There not interested in the Integrity and unity of the are others also who are your own colleagues country. You are only interested to be in power. That is why you are taking such ( Interruptions) authoritarian steps and violating the Constitution and imposing the President's SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: I have rule only to have your own government spoken for 20 minutes. I will continue there. Why are you afraid facing the tomorrow also, if you permit. Assembly in Manipur?

SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: We (Sheohar): It is very important subject. are not afraid. (Interruptions) SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : The MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There are Manipur Asserrbly session was adjoumed others also. there is a big list of speakers suddenly because the Governor asked the and they will be denied of the opportunity. Chief Ministerto have the vote of confidence within 10 days. But suddenly the Manipur SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Since this Assemblywas adjoumed because the Chief will continue tomorrow also, I will speak Minister of the Congress Government was tomorrow also. I will speak upto 6 0' Clock. afraid offacing the Assembly. Atthis moment now .. the Congress (1) Government in Manipur is . Stat. Res. reo approval APRil 21, 1992 to NagaJand 424 Prociamation In relation Sh. Basu Deb Acharia] capture poWer to remain in office by hook or by crook, by any means even by violating not enjoying the majority. Why the Governor the Constitution. Even by raping the was removed when the House was not In Constitution they want to remain In power. Session? When Lok Sabha was adjoumed So, here also It is a glaring example. for seven days, the Govemorwas removed Nagaland where Article 356 has been without showing any reason. What was his Imposed is aglaringcase of blatant violations fault? His failure was, he wanted to protect of the Constitution. That Is why, Sir, as you the Constitution. what was his fault? He are the custodian of this House and also as acted according to the Constitution. What you are to protect the Constitution, you must was his fault? He dCled according to the Q"Hd the Govemment from the Chair that advice of the Cabinet, the Cabinet which whatever misdeed they committed should took the decision in its Meeting on 24th be done. You should not only admonish March for the dissolution of the Assan1>ly. them, Dot only reprimand them, but say that that was his fault and for that failure only he what they have done is unpardonable. was punished. Not only Article 356 was Many of us have moved a motion for imposed, the Governor, Mr. Thomas, who revocation of the imposition of Article 356. acted according to the Constitution of I'-ia, We want that this should be adopted by the was removed from the Govemorship and House. Many of the Congress (I) Members some other Govemor was given the charge will also support. They should support, they of that State. Now the question is whether should protect the Constitution. so, Sir, if there will not be alienation of the people - this Statutory Resolution moved by the now Mr. Santosh Mohan Deb has come- Home Minister is rejected, they do not have whether the people of the North-Eastern any argument. States will not feel that they are deprived of their own Government. They want to have their own elected Govemment and they are 18.00 hrs. now deprived of it by the Central Govem ment. So the question is whether they will not feel MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There is a that such alienation will not be there. big list of speakers. Many Members want to (Interruptions). He agrees personally. partiCipate in this debate. So, is it the desire of the House that the time be extended? SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: I am going to speak. SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: No. , SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: He will MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House speak because knows how to capture stancs adjourned to meet tomorrow the power. He could capture power in Tripura. 22nd April,1992, at 11 0' Clock. He knows those tactics. So, sir we are very much concerned for them. The people of 18.01 hrs. North-Eastern States are feeling that already the secessionist movement is there in several The Lok Sabha then Adjourned till Eleven parts of our country. The Central Government of the Clock on Wednesday April 22, do not care for this. Their only aim is to 19921 (Saka).

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