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Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) Wednesday Volume 512 30 June 2010 No. 24 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Wednesday 30 June 2010 £5·00 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2010 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Parliamentary Click-Use Licence, available online through the Office of Public Sector Information website at www.opsi.gov.uk/click-use/ Enquiries to the Office of Public Sector Information, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU; e-mail: [email protected] 843 30 JUNE 2010 844 Mr Paterson: I am most grateful to the hon. Lady for House of Commons her question. I would not want to prejudge the result of our deliberations, so I merely say that my hon. Friend Wednesday 30 June 2010 the Financial Secretary to the Treasury will be on the working group, and its other four members are all part of the Executive and will put the point of view of the The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock Executive clearly in our deliberations. Dissident Paramilitary Activity PRAYERS 2. Mr Iain Wright (Hartlepool) (Lab): What recent assessment he has made of the extent of activities of [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] dissident republicans in Northern Ireland. [4205] 3. David Simpson (Upper Bann) (DUP): What his most recent assessment is of the level of security threat Oral Answers to Questions from dissident republican organisations in Northern Ireland. [4206] 7. Mr David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab): What recent NORTHERN IRELAND assessment he has made of levels of dissident paramilitary activity in Northern Ireland. [4210] The Secretary of State was asked— The Minister of State, Northern Ireland Office (Mr Hugo Presbyterian Mutual Society Swire): The threat level in Northern Ireland remains at severe, but the security forces continue to bear down on 1. Dr William McCrea (South Antrim) (DUP): What this small number of criminals. So far this year there progress has been made in providing assistance to have been 121 arrests and 30 charges brought, which savers affected by the current situation of the compares with 106 arrests and 17 charges brought in the whole of 2009. Presbyterian Mutual Society. [4204] Mr Wright: I thank the Minister for his response. In The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Mr Owen the light of the Independent Monitoring Commission’s Paterson): Both the Prime Minister and I have publicly report, the increase in the activity of a small band of stated our firm commitment to working with the Northern dissident republicans and, in particular, the worrying Ireland Executive to ensure a just and fair resolution to use of car bombs, will he consider continuing the previous the PMS situation, and all options are being considered. Government’s practice of providing additional funds The reconvened ministerial working group will meet from the reserves to tackle terrorism? soon to review progress, and I will be its chairman. Mr Swire: We did, of course, endorse that approach Dr McCrea: Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that and, as my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State said, many of those with savings of less than £20,000 in the we wrote the most open-dated cheque in supporting the PMS are in the older age bracket? As a result, they have previous Government’s moves in that direction before been denied access to their savings for more than 20 months the general election. In my opening remarks, I referred and have faced hardship and great distress? Does he to the level of activity among those who reject the peace appreciate that the urgent resolution of this situation process and who have, in effect, turned their backs on it. is necessary? What timetable is he working on to resolve it? I do not wish to distinguish them by calling them “dissident republicans” because I believe that that gives Mr Paterson: I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for them a status that they do not deserve. I believe that the his question. I totally appreciate the severity of the security services, particularly the Police Service of Northern pressures, particularly on older people, who are having Ireland, the Department of Justice in Belfast, which is trouble paying nursing home fees and so on. I would headed by David Ford, and crucially, the Garda in the love to set a timetable, but I cannot do so. All I can say Republic of Ireland, are working extremely carefully is that this Government take this issue seriously, we will and closely together to try to prevent these atrocities get a grip on it, we have reconvened the working group from happening on a more regular basis. and I will chair it. I very much hope that we will arrive at a solution. David Simpson: The Minister will be aware that in recent days a 300 lb bomb and a 160 lb bomb have been Ms Margaret Ritchie (South Down) (SDLP): I thank planted in Northern Ireland by these so-called “dissidents”. the Secretary of State for his answer. Given the extent Further to the previous question, may I ask whether he of central Government support for failed financial will give assurances to this House today and to the institutions and the severe budgetary pressures faced by people who live in the area where these bombs were put the Northern Ireland Executive, does he accept that it is that we will get whatever resources are needed, be they imperative that the Treasury endeavours to alleviate the financial or manpower? financial burdens faced by savers in the PMS? Will he take those views on board when he begins to chair this Mr Swire: The hon. Gentleman’s constituency had group shortly? If the Northern Ireland Executive find the pipe bomb in the grounds of the Brownlow PSNI resources for this organisation, will the Treasury match station on 18 June and the tragic and unacceptable those several-fold? murder of Constable Stephen Carroll by the Continuity 845 Oral Answers30 JUNE 2010 Oral Answers 846 IRA. The answer to the hon. Gentleman’s question is although I would concede that that has happened only that we support any bid by the PSNI for additional once to date. Without being particularly partisan against resources, and we will make representations to the Labour Members, I refer the right hon. Gentleman Treasury as and when necessary, because the security of back to the outgoing Chief Secretary’s remark that innocent individuals in Northern Ireland should be “There is no money.” This is a very tight fiscal round paramount in everything we seek to do. and I can assure the right hon. Gentleman that the Secretary of State and I will make representations to Mr Hanson: Does the Minister agree that this is not the Treasury when asked to do so on behalf of the just about the threat of bombs and dissident activity devolved Administration in Northern Ireland. but about the fact that many dissidents in Northern Ireland—as I know from my experience as a Minister Mr Laurence Robertson (Tewkesbury) (Con): I there for some time—are involved in criminal activity? congratulate my hon. Friend and the Secretary of State Even today, we have seen reports of criminal gangs and on their appointments. Does the Minister agree that prostitution run by dissident paramilitaries. Will he one way in which paramilitary activity can start to be ensure that resources are available not only to tackle the countered is if there is co-operation between people in emergency situation but to deal with the long-term all sections of the communities in each of these areas? security and crime issues that impact on the community Is the Minister satisfied that sufficient progress is being across the Province? made in that respect? Mr Swire: Indeed. Things have changed since the Mr Swire: I congratulate my hon. Friend on being right hon. Gentleman was in Northern Ireland and, of appointed Chair of the Select Committee. I hope that course, crime issues that are without any kind of terrorist that is one issue that the newly formed Select Committee connotation are a matter for the Department of Justice, will consider. Of course, he is right, particularly in the David Ford and the PSNI. Of course, we will provide all light of the Saville report on Bloody Sunday when, for the resources that are needed. I cannot stress enough many people, we finally got the truth of what happened the close co-operation we have with the Garda on on that dreadful day. It is incumbent on everyone in cross-border issues. I am delighted to make an Northern Ireland to come forward and tell the truth. It announcement today on one of the things for which we is only through the truth being told that we can get have been lobbied by the PSNI—an automatic number reconciliation and allow Northern Ireland to move on plate reading device that will cost £12.9 million. The in the way that everybody in this House would wish Secretary of State has been lobbying the Treasury since it to. he took office and I am delighted to be able to announce to the House this morning that we have that funding for Mr Speaker: We need to make somewhat faster progress. the PSNI. That will be a useful device in its continuing battle against those who would commit crime. Paul Goggins (Wythenshawe and Sale East) (Lab): I welcome the Minister to his post and wish him genuinely Mr Nigel Dodds (Belfast North) (DUP): May I warm good wishes in his responsibilities. I also welcome congratulate the hon. Gentleman and the Secretary of the very good news that he and the Secretary of State State on their appointments and wish them well in have secured this additional £12 million from the reserve.
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