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DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THE SECONDTHE SECOND MEETING MEETING O OFF THE FIRST FIFTH SESSION SESSION OF THEOF ELEVENTHE TWELFTHTH PARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 03 MARCH 2020 MIXED VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO. 193196 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. Mmadinare Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. (Opposition Whip) Tonota Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 03 MARCH, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) SPEAKER’S ANNOUNCEMENTS...................................................................................................................1 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER............................................................................................................1-7 COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY Appropriation (2020/2021) Bill, 2020 (No. 2 of 2020) Organisation 0400 - Ministry of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Resumed Debate........................................................................................................................................8-17 Organisation 0700 - Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry.......................................................................18-39 Tuesday 3rd March, 2020 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Tuesday 3rd March, 2020 (ii) if the disparities that exist in the Government pay structure are satisfactory. THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC P R A Y E R S ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Thank you Mr Speaker. * * * * (i) Mr Speaker, the general public service salaries SPEAKER’S ANNOUNCEMENTS and allowances are set out in Directives issued by the Directorate of Public Service Management MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! (DPSM) from time to time. In terms of the current Honourable Members, I understand we have visitors Directives, the lowest civil servant is paid a total from Motswedi Junior Secondary School in Honourable Balopi’s constituency; Gaborone North. They are our of P2 524.40 per month, consisting of P2 072.00 visitors. They have their teachers accompanying them. as basic salary and P452.40 as housing and upkeep allowance. The highest civil servant on HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… the other hand is paid a total salary of P83 941.91 MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, bana ba teng! Honourable per month, comprising of P81 019.00 as a basic Members, in accordance with Standing Order No. 99.1; salary, P1 302.53 as entertainment allowance and I hereby inform you that the Committee of Selection met P1 678.82 as housing allowance. However, it is nd on Monday 2 of March 2020 to consider proposal for possible for the appointing authority where he allocation of Parliamentary Committees to members. I deems it appropriate, to pay a higher salary than am therefore, pleased to announce that the following that which is set out in the Directives. Honourable Members have been appointed to the following Parliamentary Committees; (ii) The current pay structure is being reviewed to • Honourable Motsamai - Committee on National close existing gaps. The intention is to establish Assembly staff, and to the Committee on Subsidiary a reward system that attracts, motivates and retain Legislation; employees of the right talent and competencies. The principle is to come up with an integrated • Honourable Thiite - Committee on Governance and performance-based reward and recognition system Oversight; that motivates employees and provide an objective basis for rewarding public employees for their • The following Honourable Members have been actual performance. Within the just concluded appointed to the Special Select Committee on agreement between Government and recognized Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs); Honourable trade unions, the parties have agreed to finalise Saleshando, Honourable Tshere, Honourable a remuneration policy and develop a new salary Mmolotsi, Honourable Reatile, Honourable Majaga, structure for the public service by June 2020. Honourable Pule, Honourable Kapinga, Honourable The policy will set direction for decision making Ramogapi and Honourable Dr Dow. regarding all aspects of remuneration in the Order! Order! Honourable Members, let us now proceed Botswana Public Service. Thank you Mr Speaker. to questions. MR KEORAPETSE: Supplementary. Thank you QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Honourable Minister, I appreciate the answer. What I wanted to find out from you regarding what you have DISPARITIES IN GOVERNMENT PAY just told Parliament, that when the appointing authority STRUCTURE deems fit, can decide that a payment above the P83 000 plus that you have stated, can be paid. The question MR D. L. KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE is, is there anyone currently employed in the civil WEST): asked the Minister for Presidential