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Kathleen Johnson's Interview with Glenn Rupp of Ohio, 4-27 Glenn Rupp Page, U.S. House of Representatives (1932–1936) Oral History Interviews Final Edited Transcripts April 27, 2005 April 28, 2005 May 3, 2005 Office of the Historian U.S. House of Representatives Washington, D.C. Table of Contents Interview Abstract i Interviewee Biography i Editing Practices ii Citation Information ii Interviewer Biography iii Interview One 1 Interview Two 23 Interview Three 61 Notes 77 Index 78 Abstract Glenn Rupp’s remarkable memory of his life as a House Page from 1932–1936, provides important insights about a variety of topics. His recollections of the daily activities of Pages and of special events, such as the annual dinners hosted by Representative Joseph Shannon of Missouri, are a personal record of the work and pastimes of the House Pages. In addition, his detailed descriptions of the Speaker’s Lobby and the Democratic Cloakroom—in terms of both architecture and atmosphere—allow comparisons of the House in the 1930s with the institution today. Rupp’s recollections of the mundane (paging a Member), unusual (helping to apprehend an intruder on the House Floor), special (FDR’s first inauguration and State of the Union address), and unfamiliar (the “Little Congress”), provide a vivid and dynamic picture of the Members, congressional employees, and the institution of the era, enhancing the history of the U.S. House. Biography Born in Archbold, Ohio, on October 30, 1912, Glenn Rupp received an invitation from Representative Frank Kniffin of Ohio, a family friend, to serve as a Page for the U.S. House of Representatives. Eager to find employment during the Great Depression, Rupp accepted the patronage position and began working at the Capitol in January 1932. During his first year on the Hill, he worked on the House Floor as a Democratic Page, primarily running errands for Representatives, filing copies of the Congressional Record, and obtaining bills from the document room. Beginning in January 1933, Rupp served as a doorkeeper for the east lobby of the House Chamber. As one of the Pages responsible for guarding entry to the House Floor, he had to memorize the names and faces of all the Members of Congress. He also paged Representatives off the floor to meet Senators, Cabinet members, congressional secretaries, and reporters. Another one of Rupp’s responsibilities as a Page was to train the future Representative, Senator, and President Lyndon B. Johnson as a House doorkeeper. During his four and one-half years as a House Page, Rupp attended presidential inaugurations, Joint Sessions, and national conventions. Due to his lengthy tenure on the Hill, he became acquainted with many Members, including the four Speakers of the House who served between 1932 and 1936: John Garner, Henry Rainey, Joseph Byrns, and William Bankhead. He also witnessed a variety of historic events, such as the World War I Veterans’ Bonus March and the end of Prohibition. Upon ending his career as a Page in July 1936, Rupp worked at the Federal Housing Administration, served in the U.S. Coast Guard in World War II, and became a salesman and manager in the paper industry. After retirement, Rupp resided in Green Valley, Arizona, until his passing on September 3, 2010. http://history.house.gov/Oral-History/ i Editing Practices In preparing interview transcripts for publication, the editors sought to balance several priorities: • As a primary rule, the editors aimed for fidelity to the spoken word and the conversational style in accord with generally accepted oral history practices. • The editors made minor editorial changes to the transcripts in instances where they believed such changes would make interviews more accessible to readers. For instance, excessive false starts and filler words were removed when they did not materially affect the meaning of the ideas expressed by the interviewee. • In accord with standard oral history practices, interviewees were allowed to review their transcripts, although they were encouraged to avoid making substantial editorial revisions and deletions that would change the conversational style of the transcripts or the ideas expressed therein. • The editors welcomed additional notes, comments, or written observations that the interviewees wished to insert into the record and noted any substantial changes to the transcript. • Copy-editing of the transcripts was based on the standards set forth in The Chicago Manual of Style. The first reference to a Member of Congress (House or Senate) is underlined in the oral history transcript. For more information about individuals who served in the House or Senate, please refer to the online Biographical Directory of the United States Congress at http://bioguide.conress.gov and the “People Search” section of the History, Art & Archives website, http://history.house.gov. For more information about the U.S. House of Representatives oral history program contact the Office of House Historian at (202) 226-1300, or via email at [email protected]. Citation Information When citing this oral history interview, please use the format below: “Glenn Rupp Oral History Interview,” Office of the Historian, U.S. House of Representatives, [date of interview]. http://history.house.gov/Oral-History/ ii Interviewer Biography Kathleen Johnson is a senior historical editor for the Office of the Historian, U.S. House of Representatives. She earned a B.A. in history from Columbia University and holds two master’s degrees from North Carolina State University in education and public history. In 2004, she helped to create House’s first oral history program, focusing on collecting the institutional memory of Members and staff. She co-authored two books: Women in Congress: 1917–2006 (Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 2006) and Black Americans in Congress: 1870–2007 (GPO, 2008). http://history.house.gov/Oral-History/ iii — GLENN RUPP — INTERVIEW ONE Editor’s Note: This interview was conducted by phone, with the interviewee and interviewer in Green Valley, Arizona, and Washington, D.C., respectively. JOHNSON: This is Kathleen Johnson interviewing Glenn Rupp, a House Page from 1932 through 1936. This is the first interview with Mr. Rupp, and it is April 27, 2005. Mr. Rupp, I’d like to start off today by asking you some biographical questions, and, first off, if you could tell me when and where were you born. RUPP: I was born in Williams County, Ohio. That’s five miles from Archbold, Ohio, a small town of 2,500 people. And, my mother died when I was six weeks old, so I had gone from the farm to live with my grandparents in town. JOHNSON: And when were you born? What year? RUPP: I was born October 30, 1912. JOHNSON: What was your mother’s name? RUPP: Elma. E-L-M-A. Neidhardt. N-E-I-D-H-A-R-D-T. JOHNSON: And, what did your mother do for a living? RUPP: Well, she taught school in a one-room country school. And she also taught music—violin and piano. http://history.house.gov/Oral-History/ 1 JOHNSON: Did you have any brothers and sisters? RUPP: Yes, I had an older brother. He was a year and a half older than I, and he stayed with an uncle and an aunt until my father remarried five years later. JOHNSON: What schools did you attend? RUPP: I attended the country school where I lived, about two miles away. A one- room country school, and I attended Archbold High School, in Archbold, Ohio. JOHNSON: When did you decide that you were going to become a Page for the U.S. House? How did that come about? RUPP: I received a letter in the mail from Congressman Frank C. [Charles] Kniffin, K-N-I-F-F-I-N, asking me if I would like to be a Page; he could get me an appointment. And, I wrote and told him I’d be very pleased to take the job. JOHNSON: And why did he ask you? Was this a person that you knew? RUPP: Yes, he was a friend of the family’s. And, actually, he had attended my high school graduation. I think that I may have given him the idea to appoint me as a Page. I know of no other reason. JOHNSON: Why did you want to become a Page? What made you so interested in this position? http://history.house.gov/Oral-History/ 2 RUPP: I was through high school, and jobs were hard to get. I knew it’d be difficult to get anything nice. Nobody had any money to go to college, so I jumped at the opportunity to go to Washington, and to become a Page. JOHNSON: This was during the Depression? RUPP: Yeah, it was right in the beginning of the Depression. The Depression started in 1929, with the stock market crash, and it just got progressively worse from year to year. JOHNSON: What did your father do for a living? RUPP: My father was a farmer. He owned a couple of farms, and he raised grain— corn, wheat, barley, rye—and clover seed. JOHNSON: Did you help him with farm work? RUPP: Yes, I did. My brother and I helped him, what little we could do in the beginning. JOHNSON: And, with becoming a Page, would you be able to describe your recollections of your first day? RUPP: Well, the first day was January 1, 1932, and I arrived on the floor of the House with the Congressman [Kniffin]. We took the Members’ elevator up to the House Floor, and we went on the floor, and he looked at me, and I think I must have had a look of horror on my face, or fright, because I didn’t feel comfortable where I was. And, anyway, he said to me, “Glenn, don’t http://history.house.gov/Oral-History/ 3 worry about this job.
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