February 4, 2004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H377 President Bush has led our country further bring home the tens of thousands men and GENERAL LEAVE and further away from the fold of the inter- women whose lives have been placed on the Mr. CUMMINGS. Mr. Speaker, I ask national community, ignoring the United Na- line for no good reason. We must see change unanimous consent that all Members tions Security council’s findings, and virtually for the better. may have 5 legislative days within demolishing the international support we had More numbers: which to revise and extend their re- received following September 11th. He has For the cost of every cluster bomb, we can marks on the subject of my Special challenged Americans to a ‘‘you’re either with enroll 2 children in Head Start. Order. us or against us’’ agenda, which leads to the For the cost of every minute of the war on The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Iraq, we could have paid the annual salary most dangerous kind of patriotism—where KING of Iowa). Is there objection to the questioning and dissent are considered un- and benefits for 15 registered nurses. For request of the gentleman from Mary- American. Well I, as an American and a pa- every hour of the war on Iraq, we could im- land? triot, am now standing again to ask questions prove, repair, and modernize 20 schools. For There was no objection. about the cost of this war. the cost of one day’s war on Iraq, we could We spent $396 billion in military spending have prevented all of the budget cuts to edu- f alone for 2003. As big as this number is, it cation programs in 2003. For the amount of b 2030 does not even include the cost of the Iraq war, money we spend ever week in Iraq, we could REPORT ON TRIP TO LIBYA, IRAQ, which was funded through two additional sup- build 142,857 units of affordable housing. For AFGHANISTAN, UZBEKISTAN, plemental requests; the first for $79 billion, the the amount of money we spend to buy one AND MILITARY HOSPITAL IN second was another $87 billion. Together, that stealth bomber, we could pay the annual sal- GERMANY amounts an amazing $562 billion. For 2003, ary plus benefits for 38,000 teachers. We that amounts to almost $11 billion dollars might be able to give a few of them a raise— The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. spent ever week, and more than $1.5 billion image that! KING of Iowa). Under the Speaker’s an- spent every day. Compare that to this year’s Each day the Pentagon spends $1.7 billion, nounced policy of January 7, 2003, the Department of Education budget of $54 billion, which is enough to build 200 new elementary gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. which works out to less than 150 million dol- schools, house 136,000 homeless, or provide WELDON) is recognized for 60 minutes lars per day, which averages out to less than Pell grants to one million college students (per as the designee of the majority leader. $3 million per day in education spending in day!). Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. each state. $1.5 billion on the military, $3 mil- With less than the cost of ONE of the Iraq Speaker, the topic of my Special Order lion on education: so where are our priorities? supplementals, we could do all these things: this evening, and I think I will be Here at home, 9 million Americans are un- Provide basic health and food to the world’s joined by other Members from both employed, 35 million live under the official poor: $12 billion. Rebuild America’s public sides, is our recent trip to Libya, Iraq, poverty line, 44 million have no health insur- schools over 10 years: $12 billion. Reduce Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, and our mili- ance, and millions more are unable to make class size for grades 1–3 to 15 students per tary hospital for our troops in Ger- ends meet. States face their worst fiscal crisis class: $11 billion. Reduce debts of impover- many. But before I get into my com- since the Great Depression, and the yearly ished nations: $10 billion; Provide health insur- ments about the trip, let me put some federal budget deficit is passing $500 billion ance to all uninsured American kids: $6 billion; specific quotes from Dr. Kay, who has and growing rapidly. My own state, New Jer- Increased federal funding for clean energy and just been referred to by a previous sey, is facing a projected $5 billion budget def- energy efficiency: $6 billion; Public financing of speaker, who made the allegation that icit for 2004. all federal elections: $1 billion; Fully fund Head Dr. Kay said there was no basis for our And this administration doesn’t intend to Start: $2 billion. activity in Iraq. change course anytime soon. According to the Other countries military spending: Russia— Mr. Speaker, let me put the actual 2005 budget released this week, they are $65 billion; China—$47 billion; Japan—$42.6 quote in the RECORD, not something planning to spend $2.2 trillion on the military billion; U.K.—$38.4 billion. that is paraphrasing, but the actual over the next 5 years. These combined are a total of $193 billion, quote. In an interview that Dr. Kay For 2004 alone, they plan to spend $399 bil- which is less than half our FY ’03 or FY ’04 conducted on NBC TV, he was asked to lion on the military (which does not include military spending—not including the cost of comment on whether it was prudent to any possible future supplemental funding re- Iraq and Afghanistan. go to war. Dr. Kay said, ‘‘I think it was quests for Iraq or Afghanistan) which is more Please don’t confuse military spending with absolutely prudent. In fact, I think at than the combined spending that year for edu- the safety and security of our Nation. It is a the end of the inspection process, we cation, Health, Justice, Housing Assistance, common misconception that higher military en- will paint a picture of Iraq that was far International Affairs, Veterans Benefits, Nat- hances homeland security. However, many of more dangerous than we even thought ural Resources & Environment, Science & these responsibilities fall onto our struggling, it was before the war.’’ Space, Transportation, employment, Employ- under funded State and local government Mr. Speaker, that is not me para- ment Training, Social Services, Income Secu- agencies, whom we know as ‘‘first respond- phrasing; that is not me summarizing rity, Economic Development, Social Security, ers,’’ and to agencies outside of the Defense or putting my own spin on what Dr. Medicare, Agriculture, and Energy. Department, such as the FBI, FEMA, and the Kay said. That is a direct quote from Where we spend our money is a telling sign Coast Guard. This massive military spending Dr. Kay, and the American people and of where our priorities lie. We have aban- budget addresses none of these programs. our colleagues need to understand that doned our children, our teachers, our laborers, Another matter of concern to me is not only as we analyze what has been said in the our homeless, our veterans, and our seniors in how much money we’re spending on our mili- findings of the Kay report, that we ac- order to fund these regime-changing, unilateral tary, but how that money is being spent. The tually look at those statements, as op- military actions. We are under funding No President’s $87 billion supplemental contained posed to trying to spin them. Some of Child Left Behind, IDEA, after-school pro- an astronomical waste of taxpayer dollars. our colleagues on the other side, espe- grams, and family literacy programs. We have These are just some of the administration’s re- cially those running for the Presi- not extended unemployment benefits for those quests: dency, have tried to put a spin on what without jobs. We have offered our seniors a $100 million for several new housing com- Dr. Kay said. It is more important for Medicare program that does almost nothing to munities, complete with roads, schools, and a the American people and for our col- cut their prescription drug costs, and we’re medical clinic; $20 million for business class- leagues to look at in actuality what he threatening to destabilize their Social Security es, at a cost of $10,000 per Iraqi student; said. through privatization. $900 million for imported kerosene and diesel, But, Mr. Speaker, there is one more I am very concerned about the direction in even though Iraq has huge oil reserves; $54 point I want to make on this whole ef- which our country is headed. We’re sliding fur- million to study the Iraqi postal system; $10 fort of the spin of Dr. Kay, which ties ther and further down a slippery slope where million for prison-building consultants; $2 mil- into our trip, because of the 45 meet- our county’s basic needs are not being met. lion for garbage trucks; $200,000 each for ings that we held over the 7 days, vis- That is why this year’s presidential election is Iraqis in a witness protection program; $100 iting eight different countries and so key. We need a leader that can mend the million for hundreds of criminal investigators; traveling 25,500 miles in military air- relationships broken by this unnecessary war and $400 million for two prisons, at a cost of craft, including a military aircraft to and its ill-administered aftermath. We need to nearly $50,000 per bed. get over, a Navy plane, C–130s and

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:20 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00067 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A04FE7.075 H04PT1 H378 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 4, 2004 Blackhawk helicopters in Iraq, I think didates for the Presidency misinterpret on his statement, What is your current the most significant meeting we had what David Kay said. But we need to go effort in Iraq and do you expect and do was in Iraq, and that meeting was with beyond that, Mr. Speaker. We need to you anticipate the ability to find weap- the individual who is actually respon- bring over the individual who was actu- ons of mass destruction over the next sible for the Iraqi Survey Group, which ally responsible for the weapons of several months? is actually doing the search for weap- mass destruction search in Iraq. That I can tell you, Mr. Speaker, what he ons of mass destruction. is not Dr. Kay; that is General Keith told us unconditionally is that they are Now, Mr. Speaker, many of our col- Dayton. General Dayton has that re- very much into this search. It has not leagues in this room and many of the sponsibility, and it is he who oversees ended; it is not winding down. In fact, people around America have been con- those 1,500 people. they have placed more in the way of as- vinced by the media that Dr. Kay was General Dayton told us that they are sets and resources into the search for in charge of the investigation for weap- in fact enthusiastic about the work weapons of mass destruction. ons of mass destruction. Mr. Speaker, they are doing. He explained to us the Now, oftentimes in this city we do that is wrong. Dr. Kay was a consult- process now under way to send teams not pay attention to the facts. We try ant to the general who was in charge of into the rivers of Iraq, the lakes of to spin things. So I think it is ex- the Iraq Survey Group, and that gen- Iraq, the bodies of water where they tremely important that we bring over eral is a two star general by the name have leads that perhaps weapons of General Keith Dayton to give us a of Keith Dayton. mass destruction were dumped, and firsthand accounting of the search for On our trip to Iraq, in Baghdad we they are now conducting that search. weapons of mass destruction and to were taken to the Fusion Center, where They also told us, General Dayton give us the other half of the story to all of the intelligence is brought for and his colleagues, that there are lit- the findings of Dr. Kay, who was a con- the Iraqi Survey Group to do their erally millions of pages and volumes of sultant to General Dayton. work, and for 90 minutes members of documents that have yet to be Mr. Speaker, let me get back to the the Republican Party and the Demo- searched that can provide leads as to trip that we took, the bipartisan trip, crat Party who were a part of my bi- where weapons of mass destruction which in fact was the first trip to partisan delegation had a chance to lis- might be. Libya by Americans since 1969. ten to the actual leader of the inspec- I can tell you after visiting the ‘‘spi- My job as a member of the Com- tion process in Iraq give us an update. der hole’’ up in Takrit where Saddam mittee on Armed Services for the past I want to share with our colleagues, Hussein was holed up for a number of 17 years has been to make sure that we Mr. Speaker, what General Dayton days, that our military personnel went give our military the best equipment, said. First of all, he was perplexed. He over top of that site a dozen times and the best technology, and the best train- was frustrated. He could not under- never found Saddam Hussein. Now, ing to allow them to continue to be the stand why David Kay came back to that hole was rather large. So if we best military on the face of the Earth, America and made this public report could not find a hole with Saddam in it and we have done that. I am a self-de- when he had not yet, first of all, talked for 8 or 9 months, then I think we cer- scribed hawk in terms of supporting to the individual who was responsible tainly owe it to General Dayton to give our military. for the Iraqi inspection process, Gen- him the time to continue the search for But, Mr. Speaker, as the vice chair- eral Dayton. In fact, all of the individ- the evidence that he thinks in fact his man of the Committee on Armed Serv- uals that we met who were overseeing team can come up with. ices, I consider my number one priority the 1,500 people who are involved in the So the point is, Mr. Speaker, that on to be the avoidance of war, because war Iraq survey team were equally frus- this meeting in Iraq with the general has always got to be the last choice, trated. in charge of the survey team for weap- because when we commit our troops to We learned, for instance, that when ons of mass destruction, we got a clear- war, then we put America’s sons and David Kay left Iraq, he was not en- ly different picture from that that is daughters into harm’s way, knowing tirely happy, because he was dissatis- being portrayed by the American full well that some or perhaps many of fied that General Dayton had other media, both in terms of Dr. Kay’s re- them will not return to their families. missions besides the search for weap- port and the spin that has been made So over the past 17 years, while serv- ons of mass destruction and actually on that report. ing on the Committee on Armed Serv- had troops assigned to efforts like Today, Mr. Speaker, Secretary ices, making sure our military has the looking for our POW–MIA Scott Spik- Rumsfeld appeared before our Com- equipment they need, is properly er, and also were involved in the anti- mittee on Armed Services in the trained, and has the financial support terrorism efforts on the ground. David House, and I was the first Member of that they deserve, I have spent an Kay became upset and told this to Gen- Congress that was invited to ask ques- equal amount of time on the prolifera- eral Dayton, that there were assets tions of Secretary Rumsfeld. I laid all tion of weapons of mass destruction being diverted away from his efforts to of this out to him, and I asked him if technology and trying to find ways to look for weapons of mass destruction. he did not think it was time to do what take those enemies of ours and those That was one of the reasons why David the famous media person, Paul Harvey, would-be enemies of ours and turn Kay left the Iraqi theater to come back used to say at the end of his stories: them into, if not allies, at least coun- to America. and now we will hear the other half of tries that we can work with. Mr. Speaker, I have not seen that in the story. My primary focus has been with the the American media. I have not heard Mr. Speaker, today I requested of former Soviet states, where I have that story yet brought forward. But Secretary Rumsfeld that Major Gen- traveled almost 35 times and estab- the individual in charge of the Iraq eral Keith Dayton be brought back to lished a relationship with the par- Survey Group, General Keith Dayton, America to testify before the Congress liaments of all of those former nations told us that when we had our meeting about the work that he is directing that were once a part of the Soviet with him in Baghdad. right now on looking for weapons of Union. For the past 13 years, with my Mr. Speaker, we also learned that Dr. mass destruction. Then Members of colleague, the gentleman from Mary- Kay had not been in Iraq for the last Congress can ask him about the condi- land (Mr. HOYER), we have co-chaired a several months, during which time he tions under which David Kay operated, formal effort with the Duma in the could have had an exchange, an update that he was in fact a consultant to Russian Government, the legislative of the work that was being done by the General Dayton. Then we can ask the body of that country, to establish a Iraq Survey Group. So, Mr. Speaker, I questions about the circumstances close relationship of friends and part- think it is essentially important that under which Dr. Kay left Iraq. Was ners. We have had some ups and downs, we take an additional step here. there friction? What was that friction? but the fact is that we are still work- Now, Dr. Kay has issued a report that Then we can ask the most important ing aggressively together. I think stands on its own and speaks question for the American people of a We have done the same thing with for itself. It does not help when Mem- two star general who is apolitical and Ukraine, with the Rada; with Moldova, bers of this body or the media or can- is not going to put any kind of a spin with the Parliament; with Georgia,

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:10 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00068 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K04FE7.150 H04PT1 February 4, 2004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H379 with their Parliament; with Azerbaijan this body and the leader of France, But again, in that case, I thought the and with Armenia. We have done it Jacques Chirac, and the leader of Ger- military action was justified, but I with Uzbekistan, and we are now many Gerhard Schroeder who criticized would say in the case of North Korea reaching out to other countries that President Bush for going into Iraq to and Libya and perhaps Iran, if we can were once a part of the Soviet Union to remove Saddam Hussein. Because what avoid conflict, we should take every bring all of those countries into a level is interesting is, just 4 short years ago, opportunity to explore that to its end. of cooperation and understanding with many of these same people criticizing That is why, Mr. Speaker, almost a us. President Bush from this body, as well year ago, at a conference on world en- Mr. Speaker, the Soviet Union and as Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroe- ergy issues in Houston, Texas, I chal- its republics were the source of much der, were the very individuals pushing lenged major international energy cor- of the technology that ended up in the Bill Clinton into a war in Yugoslavia porations to come together and estab- hands of the Libyans, the Iraqis, the to remove Milosevic from power. And lish an International Energy Advisory Iranians, the North Koreans and the guess what, Mr. Speaker? When Council, to specifically focus on the Syrians. In fact, Mr. Speaker, during Schroeder and Chirac and some of the use of energy as a mechanism to avoid the 1990s, I must have given 100 speech- Members of this body who are criti- war and as a mechanism to help us es on what we saw occurring on a reg- cizing President Bush pushed Bill Clin- solve regional conflicts that could lead ular basis, the transfer of technology ton into an armed conflict, they did to major escalations of war. That from Russia and China and those not go to the U.N. for a resolution, be- group, headed up by Jeffrey Waterers, former Soviet states into the hands of cause they knew full well that Russia had an initial meeting in Washington, those five countries that I just men- would veto any such resolution of the D.C. in July in the Rayburn Office tioned. Time and again there were vio- Security Council. So what did they do? Building, where Chalabi came over lations of arms control agreements. Bill Clinton, Gerhard Schroeder, and from Iraq and spoke to the energy lead- But the response of the administration Jacques Chirac, supported by many of ers about Iraq postwar. We had major in the nineties was to pretend we did those in this body who have been criti- leaders from the State Department and not see it, because the administration cizing President Bush, did not go to the DOD came into speak, and allowed the was more concerned with keeping Boris U.N. as George Bush did, they went to energy corporations, including those Yeltsin in power, even when the people NATO. from Iraq and Iran, to come together of Russia had come to believe that he Now, Mr. Speaker, NATO is a defen- and see if energy could not provide a was no longer a credible leader for sive body. It was organized as a defen- partial solution to the crisis both in their nation. sive entity to defend Europe and the Iraq as well as other crises around the Mr. Speaker, we did the same thing NATO countries from an attack by a world. in reaching out to other countries, like nation like the Soviet Union. NATO In October, a second forum was held China, that in fact were heading to- was never meant to be an offensive or- in London, again attended by all of the wards a course of perhaps being an ganization. But in 1999, many of those major leaders around the world in the enemy of the U.S.; leading six delega- same people, including many of those energy industry, which I could not at- tions to that Nation; being the only Democrat candidates for President tend. But following that meeting, I set elected official asked to speak two today, were out there supporting up a private meeting with Colonel times at the National Defense Univer- Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder Gadhafi’s son, Saif al Saleem al sity of the People’s Liberation Army in and Bill Clinton in using NATO for the Gadhafi, a 34-year-old, London-edu- Beijing. first and only time ever in its history cated, Ph.D. candidate at the London Finally, Mr. Speaker, last May, after as an offensive invasion force into a School of Economics, who today is ap- 2 years of planning, I was proud to take non NATO country. parently, according to some pundits, in the first delegation of Members of Con- So we invaded Yugoslavia. We line to succeed his father as the leader gress, again a bipartisan delegation, bombed Serbia. We removed Milosevic, of Libya. into Pyongyang, North Korea, the goal who was a war criminal. But what is so I wanted to meet this individual, be- there being to support the President confusing to me, Mr. Speaker, is that cause we had mutual interests, to see and continuing the dialogue of the six those same people who were on Bill whether or not there was a possibility nations to eventually resolve the con- Clinton’s band wagon to invade Serbia of breaking new ground with Libya po- flict between North Korea, South and Yugoslavia because Milosevic was litically, of seeing whether or not there Korea and the rest of the world. a war criminal, all of a sudden, having would be a movement away from the In fact, Mr. Speaker, following the supported George Bush, even though he policies of the past, which I had heard next round of six-way talks at the end went to the U.N. for the 17th and 18th to be rumored back in the middle part of this month, I will again lead a dele- time, even though Saddam Hussein has of last year, unaware of what was hap- gation back into North Korea to con- been characterized by everyone, from pening with our own private discus- tinue a positive effort to support our Max Vanderstadt, the U.N. Human sions within our government. In Janu- President in finding a peaceful solution Rights Advisor, to Amnesty Inter- ary of this year, the meeting with Saif to the Korean nuclear crisis, again to national as the worst human rights al Gadhafi took place. He and I had a avoid war, because of the consequence abuser since Adolf Hitler, did not want long discussion. We talked about of putting America’s sons and daugh- to support the effort in Iraq. Sounds Libya’s past relationship with the U.S. ters into harm’s way. like politics to me, Mr. Speaker. It and the West. We talked about the hor- does not sound like much consistency rible bombings, the terrible tragedy of b 2045 or substance. Lockerbie, the bombings in Berlin, the Now, I also fully realize, Mr. Speak- How can you be for removing a war linkage of Libyan state-sponsored ter- er, that that is not always possible, and criminal like Milosevic from power and rorism, and I told Saif, we can never one case in point was Iraq. We gave not going through the U.N., but using forgive and never forget. Likewise, he Saddam Hussein 18 chances to abide by NATO as an offensive force, and then 4 told me it was difficult for he and his U.N. resolutions, 18 opportunities to years later, criticize President Bush father to forget that we had bombed come clean, to basically come forward after having gone to NATO for the 17th their home and in fact killed his 11⁄2 and tell the world what he had been and 18th time, after having given Sad- year old sister. But we both said it was doing. And the response of Saddam dam Hussein every opportunity, and time to look to the future as opposed Hussein was to thumb his nose at us then, in the end, who decided we had to to the past. and at the rest of the world and to defy remove this war criminal, this user of But Saif was one who was looking to the world community. As a result, the weapons of mass destruction, as he did settle the past problems with the President was left with no choice when against the Kurds, as he did against Lockerbie victims’ families, to look at he asked us to support him in a resolu- the Iranians, from power. It does not putting to rest those issues where tion of war. make sense to me, Mr. Speaker, unless, Libya had done horrible things, and For the life of me, Mr. Speaker, I of course, you add in the political equa- that perhaps it was time to move into cannot understand the logic of those in tion. a new direction. So he invited me to

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:20 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00069 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K04FE7.152 H04PT1 H380 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 4, 2004 bring a delegation of our colleagues to America in any way displayed because positive. They came up to us, they Tripoli. I said I would gladly take that it would upset the people of the coun- shook our hands. A young 10-year-old, invitation. Two days later, a formal try. In fact, up until the 11th hour, when the gentlewoman from Michigan written invitation came to my office in they did not want us to land our mili- (Mrs. MILLER) said, Hi, how are you, Washington from the chairman of the tary plane at the Tripoli Airport. How said back to her, I am fine, how are People’S Congress in Libya, inviting wrong they were. you? And she said, You speak excellent me to bring a delegation in. We secured When we arrived in Tripoli, Mr. English. He said, I have been practicing a military plane and we decided our Speaker, and our plane pulled up to the in school. trip would involve not just Libya, but a tarmac, the number one spot in front We met shopkeepers, an elderly gen- trip that the White House had been en- of the air terminal at the main Tripoli tleman who was pounding the copper, couraging me to take with Members to Airport, there was a whole core of indi- making pots, who looked up and said, Iraq and Afghanistan. viduals from the leadership of Libya We are glad to have you in our coun- So the plane was secured, and from waiting to meet us. Officials from the try. We hope it is a new beginning. Ev- the Speaker’s list of Members who were government of the country, the foreign eryone we met on the streets of Trip- asked to go to Libya and Afghanistan, ministry, the people’s Congress, all out oli, Mr. Speaker, were positive toward we assembled a delegation, a bipartisan there welcoming the Americans back America. It overwhelmed us. It was not delegation, including my good friend, to their nation. In fact, there was a what we expected, it was not what we the gentleman from Texas (Mr. ORTIZ) huge media entourage, TV cameras, re- were told to expect by our own govern- who would have been here tonight, but porters who were there to ask us ques- ment back here in our country. he had a death of a close friend and is tions about why we were there and to In fact, Mr. Speaker, Members sitting down back in his district; the gen- follow us through our initial meeting around the table at the university with tleman from New York (Mr. ISRAEL), a which was held in the lobby of the the President of the Al Fateh Univer- Democrat; the gentleman from Lou- Tripoli Airport. sity and about 25 of his department isiana (Mr. ALEXANDER), a Democrat; The welcome was unbelievable; unbe- heads; and remember, this is a 75,000 the gentlewoman from Michigan (Mrs. lievably positive. As we sat down and student university, they have major MILLER), a Republican; the gentleman talked about our agenda for the 2 days programs in medicine, in law, in health from California (Mr. GALLEGLY), a Re- we were going to be there, I had asked care, in science, in technology, in edu- publican; the gentleman from Indiana for less than a dozen meetings. Mr. cation, in environment and agri- culture. As he went around the room, (Mr. SOUDER), a Republican; and the Speaker, not only was every meeting each of these department heads, all of gentleman from California (Mr. ISSA), a that I asked for granted to us, but they Republican. The gentlemen from Cali- even went beyond and gave us meetings whom spoke excellent English, give us their background and what department fornia (Mr. GALLEGLY) and (Mr. ISSA) we had not asked for. We met with the joined us the day before we left. They Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime they headed. It was unbelievable, Mr. were not a part of the delegation going Minister, the Vice Prime Minister, the Speaker. All but two of them were edu- cated here in America. They told us on to Iraq and Afghanistan; they only Foreign Minister, the minister in what schools they attended: UCLA, joined us for the Libyan portion of the charge of removing weapons of mass Princeton, Colorado, Michigan, Univer- trip. destruction from Libya. We met with And I would say, Mr. Speaker, any the foundation established by Saif al sity of Pennsylvania, Louisiana, Geor- Member of Congress could have come Gadhafi, the same foundation over- gia, all the major schools of our coun- with us on that trip into Libya. We had seeing the refunding of the money that try. over 100 empty seats on our aircraft. So is owed to those victims’ families of b 2100 any Member of Congress could have the Lockerbie disaster. We met at the And they told us of their longing to joined us if they had just called and ex- largest university in Libya, Al Fateh once again reestablish ties with the pressed an interest, as the gentlemen University, which has 75,000 students. American educational system and with from California did the day before we We met with the leaders of the Libyan- the American people. In fact, one of the left. American Friendship Society, which professors at the University, professor Mr. Speaker, our trip to Libya and was started in 2000, where 400 people of English, Dr. T. T. Tarhuui, wrote a the other countries was exhausting. As waited for 3 hours for us to arrive in poem entitled ‘‘Members of Congress,’’ I mentioned earlier, we traveled 25,500 this large tent to welcome us openly which I will enter into the RECORD miles, we visited 8 countries, and we with American flags flying outside of when I place our trip report in at the had 45 meetings. Members of our dele- the tent and inside of the tent, with end so the American people and our gation on some nights got less than 2 children dressed up in colorful cos- colleagues can read the poem he wrote hours sleep. When we arrived in Ku- tumes to sing for us, with young people for our visit. wait, before going into Iraq, we arrived reciting poetry for us and speeches wel- So the response by the people and the at 4 o’clock in the morning from our coming America back to Libya. leaders of Libya was unbelievably and plane, got to our hotel and had to be up Everyplace we went, Mr. Speaker, overwhelmingly positive. In fact, we at 6 o’clock in the morning for the every person we met, every group we asked to see a weapons of mass de- military to take us into Baghdad. So I talked to was hungry and starving for struction site. Not only did they take want to congratulate the members of a new positive relationship with Amer- us to their nuclear complex but we had the delegation that were on this trip ica. full access to their 10 megawatt re- because of their outstanding service to In fact, during our first day in down- search reactor which they opened to the country in performing an ex- town Tripoli, I asked the delegation to look into and to understand what they tremely difficult task, completing the break away with me to go on an un- were doing with radio isotopes and dis- mission that we set out for ourselves. planned event, to walk 3 or 4 blocks cuss with them their nuclear program; But I want to talk specifically about away from the hotel, and to go into the but before we went to that site, they what we actually did and, in the end, I marketplace, the old city, the shopping had us sit down with the minister who will ask to put our trip report in the district, where hundreds of shops and was in charge of the entire program to CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. local stores are there for the Libyan allow the IAEA and the U.S. and Great We did not know what to expect in citizens to buy their materials, their Britain to remove the weapons of mass Libya, Mr. Speaker, because no one had clothing, their housewares, their pots destruction from that nuclear site and been there from our country for the and pans, and the things that they need from Libya. In fact, much of that re- past 35 years. We were not sure what for their own lives. The delegation moval took place the same week that the response would be. In fact, we were walked together, without any we were in Libya on a separate mili- told by the White House and the Na- preannouncement, without guards tary aircraft. tional Security Council that the Liby- around us, without any advanced alert, But perhaps the most interesting ans did not want any presence of the and we went through the marketplace. meeting in Libya was with Colonel U.S., they certainly did not want to see Every person we met in the Libyan Qadafi. We did not know what to ex- the flag flown, and they did not want marketplace in downtown Tripoli was pect. We were taken to his residence

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:20 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00070 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K04FE7.154 H04PT1 February 4, 2004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H381 that we had bombed in 1986. We saw the and dialogue. But we also told him that On the ground up in the Tikrit area, devastation still evident. We saw the if that process continued that we were we were able to take Blackhawk heli- lessons and the stories about his sure that one day a normalization of copters out into the troop areas to daughter who was killed. And we were relations would occur. And when that meet with troops, to go to the spider then brought to another part of the day came, we in the Congress, Demo- hole where Saddam had been holed up, complex where there was a large out- crats and Republicans, were prepared to visit with our Special Forces. In door tent. We were led in and sat down to help our President establish a new fact, we were able to be a part of a on the sofas arranged in a semi-circle relationship with the people and the in- ceremony as one of our young Special manner and awaited the arrival of stitutions of Libya. Forces, Mr. Reyes, Sergeant Reyes, re- Colonel Qadafi. About 5 minutes later, Our meetings with Qadafi were pro- enlisted. We became a part of that he came into the tent in his glowing ductive, were candid, and were de- ceremony to honor him for his commit- purple robed outfit with his hat on, signed to convey a positive message of ment to our country. shook our hands, smiled and sat down. support for the leadership of our Presi- We had a tremendous interaction And for 2 hours we had a discussion dent in stating that Libya has become with the general in charge of the 4th among the group. And then I had a pri- a model of moving in the right direc- Infantry Division, General Odierno, vate session with him for 30 minutes. tion away from terrorism. who gave us a personal update as to the In the trip report, Mr. Speaker, are One of the things that Colonel Qadafi encounters that were taking place on a the very quotes that Colonel Qadafi said to us was that he was taking tre- daily basis. In fact, I had a very mov- mendous heat from the other Arab made to our group as transcribed by ing experience there with General leaders in the region who were making both our staff director, Doug Roach, Odierno because one of my constitu- fun of him, who were criticizing him and our military escort. We had two ents, a 24-year-old young man who I and calling him because of his decision separate note takers in that meeting. had nominated to West Point, was to renounce weapons of mass destruc- It was a very solemn meeting with killed in an attack back in the latter tion. And his concern was that Amer- Qadafi. For the first 25 or 30 minutes he part of 2003. ica not abandon him if, in fact, he con- talked to us in a very low tone, a very As General Odierno was describing to tinues to do the kinds of things that deliberate tone. And he said, You us some of the attacks on his troops, have happened over the past several know, I am so happy that you are here, he talked about a young 24-year-old weeks with both the IAEA, Great Brit- he said, but my question is why has it that he had come to know, an out- ain, and the United States. taken over 30 years for someone from So, Mr. Speaker, I think our trip to standing leader whose convoy was at- your country to sit down with me and Libya was extremely positive. We were tacked, whose troops came under heavy talk to me? I could understand if you not there to become a patsy for any- fire, who himself was hit, and in spite met with me and you had problems be- one. We were not there to try to brush of his own injuries, continued to pro- cause I had done something wrong, over what has happened in the past. We tect and save the lives of at least one some terrible act, but if you would were there to do what I said earlier is and possibly two other soldiers before have met with me and talked with me my top job as the vice chairman of the his life was snuffed out. and then felt that I was lying, you Committee on Armed Services, to As the general talked, and as I de- would have been justified in bombing avoid another war, to find a way not to scribed to him the 24-year-old that I me. But you did not talk to me for over appease anyone, but to continue on the had nominated to West Point, the gen- 30 years. path that our President has laid down, eral asked me his name. And I said He said, You do not understand the to turn a former terrorist nation, a na- Bernstein. He said Congressman, that Libyan people. We understand Amer- tion that has been involved in state- is who I was talking about. He went to ica. We studied all about it. And I sponsored activity in a new direction school with my son at West Point. I would ask you to help me in my effort to becoming friends with the U.S. happen to have a 3-page letter with me to reestablish that relationship with The second part of our trip moved us from Lieutenant Bernstein’s parents your country. to Iraq. We had amazing meetings with thanking me for the praise we had ac- Now, Mr. Speaker, we made no apolo- the troops. We had time with Ambas- knowledged for him to his family, in- gies to Colonel Qadafi. We let him and sador Bremer, with General Sanchez. cluding comments from those who his leaders know that the past actions We asked them to give us updates on knew the lieutenant, who had been of his government and some of his peo- the troops’ activities, on the stability touched by him during his brief life. I ple were outrageous and will never be inside of that country. gave a copy of that letter to the gen- forgiven nor forgotten. But we also We had a meeting with Dr. Pachachi, eral. He was very moved and presented said it is time to move into a new di- who is the leader of the governing me with the unit coin which I will rection. council. We had several of his col- present to the Bernstein family in re- We praised him personally for the leagues there with us as we talked membrance of their son, a brave Amer- public statements that he has made about the plan to hand Iraq over to his ican hero. about his willingness to remove his people. And he thanked us for that sup- Our visit with the troops in both Iraq weapons of mass destruction and about port. We assured him that America was and Afghanistan, Uzbekistan was to as- his willingness to turn over a new page there for the long haul; and that even sess what they needed. We came back in a relationship with the West. though the political rhetoric of this with the idea that they need more lin- He talked about his country’s coming election year will cause Democrats and guistic support, they need more UAVs, into the arms control regimes that for Republicans to criticize each other, and we need better benefits and sup- decades they have not been a part of. that we were not going to as Ameri- port for our Guard and Reservists who And for that we thanked him. And we cans abandon what we had started in are serving so well. And that message said to Colonel Qadafi, Your words are Iraq. was conveyed throughout the trip. important and we praise them, but We then went out with the troops, In leaving Iraq, we went to Islamabad words will not carry the day. You must Mr. Speaker. I mentioned we talked at and then flew into Afghanistan into show us with your actions that you length with the Iraq survey team. I the capital city of Kabul where we met truly are serious with removing the will not review that because I did it at with King Zahir Shah to assess his con- weapons of mass destruction, about the beginning of my Special Order. But tinuing role as the leader of that coun- changing the ways of the past, about we went out and had other meetings as try, someone who helped us get the working with us on the problem of ter- well in Iraq. In fact, we traveled up to Afghanis to convene Aloya Jirga to rorism, about rooting out those cells Tikrit. We went in a C–130, and we saw bring together the leaders to establish that exist in your country, and about the terrible trauma that our C–130 pi- a constitutional government. laying down a new foundation for the lots are under as they have to eva- In following the meeting with King future. sively fly into airports to do unbeliev- Zahir Shah, we met with the leader of We told him that we would judge able maneuvers so they can avoid the the government of Afghanistan, Hamid Libya and their colonel’s comments surface-to-air missiles that still exist Karzai. He talked to the success only based on substance as opposed to words in Iraq. made possible by the leadership of the

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:20 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00071 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K04FE7.156 H04PT1 H382 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 4, 2004 United States. In between we met with b 2115 may be networking; and those of us more of our troops. Mr. SOUDER. Mr. Speaker, I first who have seen all sorts of classified Then we flew from Kabul up to our want to praise the gentleman for his things know we have Libyan suspects K2 base in Uzbekistan, a former Soviet continuing efforts in this often, and all over the world for potential net- military site where we spent a day and previously, ignored region of the world. works suspects. If he shuts this down, a half with the troops. Each member of He has been an expert in Russia for a if he shuts this nuclear development our delegation walked through the long time. I believe he said 33 different down, look, I am willing to sit through wards. We went to the bedsides of those trips to Russia, someone who is a fa- a few lectures. I am willing to talk. If soldiers, some who had shrapnel miliar face there, who will go nose to somebody can be moved off the ter- wounds, some who had been shot in the nose with the Russians, and at the rorist list, if somebody can be moved leg, some who had piercings of the same time the Russians know he will off the nuclear list, we can sit down eyes, some who had skin diseases. And be back again and again and again. He and talk. It does not mean that we are we told them that they were our he- is our friend while he is also arguing apologizing or that we are agreeing roes. with us. with past things. Okay. What is done is We met with those that were on the I have watched the gentleman prac- done. way out in transition, that were com- tice that in tough negotiations with If we have a chance at a time when ing back to the States. In fact, we of- Russia and prepare himself for the we are under assault all over the world fered seats to 12 of those young soldiers other types of things that he has been to find a friend who wants to fight al who came back with us to America and working with in this troubled region of Qaeda, who wants to take on bin then were taken to the Army medical the world. Laden, who wants to dismantle, and on facility here in Washington, D.C. for He has spent time in the Ukraine, in the whole I would just as soon they did further treatment and eventual trans- Georgia. His commitment to health research and tried to figure out port back to their districts. Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan and the so- how to put their nuclear research into We had two town meetings in the called ‘‘Stans’’ was there long before desalinization of water. They want our military base in K2. As we stayed over- we had the focus in the recent post-9/11 help to try to figure out how to get night, we had dinner one night and issues. The gentleman was interested breakfast the next morning with the more water in Libya so they can irri- troops. And during the evening and the in this for a long time since the Repub- gate. And that is a lot better than de- morning, we had town meetings to licans came into control in Congress veloping bombs to blow up our people. His comment that you referred to allow the troops to tell us what was on and even before that in his career. His efforts in North Korea. He has where he said, we do not know much their minds. They told us the good been in the world hot spots before they about Libya, partly we will never know things and bad things; but without any were known as the world hot spots; that much about Libya. And some of it question, Mr. Speaker, the morale of therefore, the particular trip that we our troops in every visit we made was was rhetoric and frustration we hear were able to do, as the gentleman has overwhelmingly positive. They knew all around the world. But you know why they were there. They were posi- explained tonight, we cannot overstate what, we did just not know much about tive for being there. And they were the gentleman’s role and the connec- Libya. I love to study history. We did happy that we came. tions and how these things are con- not know hardly anything about Libya. We delivered 10,000 Valentine’s cards, nected. Apparently, our government does not made by schoolchildren all over Amer- Because the gentleman is involved in either. ica. We delivered 25 cases of Tasty the energy, he got to know Mohammar They were telling the gentleman Cakes so the troops could get a fresh Khadafi’s son, who would enable us to from Pennsylvania (Mr. WELDON) that taste of America and the treats that get into places we were never able to we cannot land there. We do not know come from my hometown city of Phila- get in and help facilitate the break- how we will be received. They will be delphia. We even brought over shirts through that we are having in Libya. hostile. There will be no press cov- from the Philadelphia Eagles. Unfortu- The gentleman deserves that credit. No erage. And we landed, and there is not nately, not many wanted them because matter how many times it is said, the any other way to state this, it was the the Eagles had lost a terribly embar- fact remains that we were able to get friendliest place I’ve even been on a rassing game before in the playoffs, but into places that we were not able to get CODEL. we gave them out anyway. into, that Americans would not have Everybody was so excited to see us. Mr. Speaker, our trip was an over- been able to get into had the gen- Once the leader said, this is okay, all whelming success. I am proud of those tleman not been spending a lot longer this Americanism is pouring out. The Members of Congress that went on this than just the most recent time, but gentleman mentioned the university. journey to try to improve relations time way before that. I thank the gen- They want to get our education. The 38 with these nations, with these emerg- tleman very much for that. of the top 40 people have been educated ing democracies, and the conversion of Let me kind of reinforce a couple of in America. The U.S.-Libyan Friend- this former arch enemy of ours. things that the gentleman said. First, I ship Society, there is hundreds of peo- Now, Mr. Speaker, I would like to would like to start with Libya because ple waiting 3 hours to have lunch with yield to the gentleman from Indiana there were many of us, and let me just a few Congressmen. (Mr. SOUDER) for whatever time he in my little piece that I got to say to The excitement of the whole trip would like to consume, one of the stars the leader, Mr. Khadaffi, it was very there, you go, something is a dis- on this trip. He was the only member clear. I said, look, I am a fundamen- connect. We do not understand. And at of the delegation not on the Committee talist Christian. I am a strong sup- one of the dinners where the Libyan on Armed Services, the other five were; porter of Israel. I am one of your crit- husband of an American citizen asked but he is a strong supporter of our ics. But at the same time, and I did not me, Are you guys over here just to tick military and, more importantly, he is particularly like some of the things he off the French? And I said, What? I the chairman of the oversight com- was claiming to be, this great democ- said, I hate to be an ignorant American mittee that oversees all of our anti- racy and how great socialism was here, but why would we be ticking off narcotics and abuse efforts worldwide. working. We did not agree. But he said the French? He said, You do not under- He has been a leader in helping the it in a debating type of way, probably stand. In North Africa, Libya, Tunisia, President and the administration deal a little nicer than some of the debate Algeria, the French and the Italians with the problems of narcoterrorism, we had here earlier this evening. It was are viewed as the occupiers. The Amer- and he and his staff were there to spe- a good discussion. He seems to want to icans came in in World War II and lib- cifically focus on that issue, and he did start to communicate. erated us. We like America. And I am it extremely well at every stop. But it While I found some of the things he thinking, no, no, these are the guys was a pleasure to have him with us. He said offensive or in disagreement, the that hate us. has traveled in the past with me to bottom line is he took a huge step to It is not that we just do not know Russia. And I was proud to have him as open up a country that was previously much about Libya; we do not know a colleague on this trip. and still is on our terrorist list, that anything. We had it backwards. If they

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:10 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00072 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K04FE7.157 H04PT1 February 4, 2004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H383 are willing to work with us, hey, look, find it. Found a different hole. Then time, I think 85 percent of the people it is trust but verify. They could have they had to go back and get a drawn turned out in a recent election even taken us into a nuclear facility. map to go. though al Qaeda was threatening to The gentleman from Pennsylvania First off, if you think of the hole as kill them. They are excited. They have (Mr. WELDON) knew more than I did be- very small and the part where he would a multiparty system, multicandidates cause he has been to Russia so many go down into basically like a casket running. times, he goes, oh, that is a Russian with a higher ceiling, there was not We have to figure out how to get system. Were you working with this much room when you got down in them off the heroin because their farm- university? Were you working with there. You could not move barely at ers are not making that much from that university? It is clear that the all. heroin. It is going to middle men. And pressure that President Reagan put on No wonder he was disoriented. If he these middle men that are making the communism to get the fall of the Ber- had American troops tromping around money are often tied to the terrorist lin Wall and the change in Russia above him while they are making sev- networks. They use narcotics, human meant that it also dried up a lot of the eral visits with a little tube going trafficking and other illegal substances assistance they were getting in Libya. down, he was probably getting very lit- to fund it. So what I was trying to ex- And then they had to go into the mar- tle oxygen, it was dark, there was no plain and President Karzai has been ket to pick up a few things. That food, it is not like it is a lighted well- helpful, the general, the nephew I knowledge, while the gentleman knows structured cell. It was a little dirt box think of the King, said that we need a lot, quite frankly, he said repeatedly, that he was in. And if it is that hard by Special Forces, Afghani Special Forces look, there is only so much we can do. the time they put the grass over the to go in after the heroin because the The President makes these decisions. top of it and something over the top of RPGs and the bombs and the suicide We can input. We can help once it goes that, there was no way even Special bombers are getting funded in Afghani- through, how to put these plans to- Forces with a map could find it. Put stan largely by the fact that when the gether, but the bottom line is we want this in the context of weapons of mass heroin poppy goes into market, that nuclear scientists to look at their nu- destruction. money then gets to middle men who clear facilities. We want experts to If you cannot find Saddam when you take that money to buy armaments verify what we have heard. have a map from his top staffers, and and to build al Qaeda and other ter- What we see is they need it economi- you have your top forces searching for rorist networks around the world. cally. His son, who is the next poten- it with a map and it takes you two It is a very close link between drugs tial leader, wants to change the coun- runs, we may never find some of this and terrorism, a very close link to re- try. He is being schooled at the London stuff. Just because we do not find it establishing the control in Afghani- School of Economics. When you go into does not mean it does not exist. We stan. They have the will. They are Tunisia, you can see the differences be- have already proven it was worthwhile turning out to vote at greater rates tween there and Libya. So can all their to go in there because they were clear- than we are. They are excited about people next door. They have reasons to ly developing. the freedom. Women have their first want to change. He does not want to be The other thing was in going down to freedom. We have an American-edu- caught in a spider hole like Saddam the Believer’s Palace at the bottom, cated leader who really is dynamic in was. when we went down and saw the sup- what he wants to do in Afghanistan, a All the evidence suggests that this is posed place where he would feed back King who has shown his commitment real. What the chairman said, to go up all this stuff to us and we were one of for 40 years and then transferring it to to Libya, was a huge breakthrough. the first groups, I believe they had just democratic power there. The administration is moving rapidly opened up the basement there, and you I was hopeful for Afghanistan even and this may be one of the biggest saw the ability to put 200 of his special though it is a very tough country that things in our life time that saves lots. guards and his cabinet and himself in has been abused by every major power And it is much to the gentleman’s there. What we saw was not only the through world history for hundreds and credit, and it was a great stop in Libya. masks that you always hear about, hundreds of years. This was an eye- I only want to mention one thing chemical and biological masks, but opening trip. It was a tremendous about Iraq because I agree with every- they had controls on the wall for dif- privilege to be allowed on it. thing the gentleman has stated about ferent types of chemical and biological I commend the gentleman for leading that, from everything to morale to oth- weapons to control the air systems and a breakthrough in Libya, major steps ers; but I supported and the gentleman other things. This guy was not pre- in Iraq, and showing the courage to go mentioned about getting General Day- paring for conventional war. into Afghanistan even when people ton in here and the weapons of mass Whether he was preparing now or a were telling us, the day we were still destruction, trying to understand that year from now or 2 years from now going in, do not go in there. It is not the consultants somehow got more may be debated, but he was getting safe right now; we went in. President high profile than the people that are ready to fight an unconventional war. Karzai was able to go in front of his actually running the weapons of mass In Afghanistan, which was one of my media and say, look, the Americans are destruction program, that there are primary goals to talk again to Presi- here. They are backing us up. They are multiple directions here; but what I dent Karzai, who I met here as well as not bailing out just because two sui- wanted to comment on particularly the former King, about narcotics. Af- cide bombers hit us in the last few days was the spider hole itself. ghan heroin is again flooding the mar- and somebody hit an ammunition It taught me something else with ket. We have major obligations here dump. We are not retreating. This is this that I have been trying to commu- with Afghanistan. As the King said in real. It is not just the President; it is nicate back home as well. That hole Rome, the gentleman from Pennsyl- the Congress that is behind you. was not very big. I am not a particu- vania (Mr. WELDON) took the first dele- I thank the gentleman for his leader- larly big person, maybe a little over- gation in. We followed shortly after ship. weight but not that much, but I did not that, and the King told me at that Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. fit into the hole very well. The bigger time, we used to grow all sorts of crops Speaker, I want to add a comment you were, the tighter it was. The taller where they now do poppy, and Afghani- about the role of this body and mem- you were, the tighter it was. It was a stan is often remembered when there is bers of foreign policy. very small hole. trouble, but then you forget us because There are some who say that Mem- What we heard was that there was in- we are a poor country that gets run bers of Congress should not travel over- side information, we had already been over by all the major powers. My peo- seas or travel to countries that we are to that farm twice looking for it, look- ple are hungry. having problems with. ing for him. Saw nothing. Then inside I have never seen a country without I will say that is absolutely, totally information, not voluntarily given, a middle class or even nice hotels. It wrong. There are some within the told them where it was. They went in was a suburb of hell, quite frankly, in State Department who take offense to with Special Forces and still did not Kabul. They need help. Yet at the same the fact that Members of Congress will

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:33 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00073 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K04FE7.158 H04PT1 H384 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 4, 2004 travel to countries like this. Let me Representative Steve Israel (D-NY) Libya for deciding to eliminate its WMD pro- say to my colleagues in this body, Representative Rodney Alexander (D-LA) grams: many of you will be here for 10 years or Representative Candice Miller (R-MI) ‘‘In the past year there have been bad me- diators. Tunisia, Egypt and other Arab coun- 20 years. If you focus on one country or Representative Elton Gallegly (R-CA) Representative Mark Souder (R-IN) tries see it as not in their best interest for a group of countries, you will have far Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) Libya and the United States to have good re- more opportunities to specialize in A listing of the complete delegation and lations. These countries are benefiting from that country than a State Department key personnel contacted at each location is the embargo and seek a continuation of the official who spends 3 years in one post provided at attachments 1 and 2, respec- embargo for their own interests. How would and moves on someplace else. tively. you expect them to work for good relations There is a very real and substantive between Libya and America? The Arabs are Libya, January 25–26 waging a fierce campaign against us for de- role for Members of Congress to play, The delegation was the first bipartisan ciding to get rid of WMD. I hope they are not and we must play it. This is not a case congressional delegation to meet with Colo- successful in taking revenge against us. I where the executive branch controls nel Moammar Gaddafi in 35 years. Fourteen hope that even Libyans are not sorry for tak- everything and we are just subservient other meetings were held with senior min- ing such a step. It all depends on your sup- to them. We are an equal part of the istry, legislative, educational, and charitable porting us. It does deserve support and en- Federal Government, and we have the foundation officials. The discussions with couragement so that Libyans won’t be dis- responsibility because we appropriate Colonel Gaddafi and all other senior leaders appointed.’’ were extraordinarily positive regarding the Chairman Weldon stated that before com- the dollars, we levy the taxes, and we potential for normalized relations between ing to Libya the delegation had been told by oversee the way the money is spent, to Libya and the U.S. The delegation encour- U.S. officials of the positive attitude taken travel to these countries, to open aged the Libyan leader to follow through on by Libyans in cooperating with the survey of doors, to look for new ways to estab- his encouraging public statements regarding Libyan WMD programs and initial steps to lish relationships, and to support the elimination of Libyan weapons of mass de- eliminate WMD programs: administration, which we did on this struction (WMD) programs, with swift, ‘‘There is no doubt in my mind that your verifiable elimination of those programs. policies and leadership will lead to normal- trip as we have on every major trip. ized relations between our countries. Even But there is a role for the Congress to Further, the delegation spoke with Libyan leaders regarding numerous public and pri- President Bush, in his recent State of the play. vate cooperative science, technology, envi- Union message, mentioned Libya as a model I am convinced that Members of Con- ronmental, health care, economic develop- for other countries. You have to understand gress can play an extremely construc- ment, and energy-related programs that that President Bush has been criticized by tive role because we do not have to act could be developed and instituted imme- elements of our society for calling Libya a as diplomats. We do not have to watch diately upon normalization of relations. The model, just as you have been criticized by how we sit, how we sip our tea, what delegation also delivered introductory let- Arab leaders who want to see Libya and America stay apart.’’ words did we use, because we are not ters from American University students to students of Al Fateh University in Tripoli. Chairman Weldon indicated that normal- representing the President. We are not Colonel Gaddafi thanked Chairman Weldon ization of relations between the two coun- representing the Secretary of State. for making the visit possible: ‘‘coming at a tries would permit initiatives to be under- We are representing ourselves. The very critical time’’—observing that he taken between the Libyan General Peoples’ members of Congress on this CODEL, wished that ‘‘such a meeting could have Congress and the U.S. Congress, much like as it has been on every CODEL that I taken place thirty years ago’’ and stating his has been done with the Russian Duma and hope ‘‘to be able to compensate for what we other parliaments, to further governmental have been a part of, did a fantastic job and non-governmental cooperation between on behalf of America. missed.’’ He commented at length on the need for countries to communicate and en- peoples of the two countries, leading to bet- b 2130 gage in dialogue before taking up arms ter understanding, peaceful cooperation, and providing for a better quality of life for all Mr. Speaker, I would like to at this against one another. He denied any responsi- bility for the night club bombing in 1986 that peoples: ‘‘The path forward will not be easy, point in time place the trip report in good things have to be worked for . . . I am led to the U.S. bombing of Libya and the convinced that if we work as hard on our side the RECORD, filed as a part of our proc- death of his step daughter: ess as we do for every trip that gives ‘‘For 30 years we haven’t discussed any- as you have on your side, we can start a new the American people and our col- thing with each other . . . taking the wrong chapter in our relationship, without make leagues a complete, factual under- approach right from the beginning, with judgments about your country or your cul- ture, but to work together, as partners.’’ standing of what we did, where we went wars, losses, damage, loss of valuable time, Kuwait-Iraq, January 26–28 and how we represented our country. without a good, specific reason for doing so . . . The picture of Gaddafi (in the U.S.) is The delegation traveled to Baghdad to I am proud of this delegation, Demo- meet with and receive updates from L. Paul crats and Republicans alike, opening not a real one. When I took the decision on elimination of weapons of mass destruction, Bremer, Administrator of the Coalition Pro- new doors to help in the security of not I did it for my people, out of conviction . . . visional Authority; General Sanchez, Com- just America but of all those countries If I had the atomic bomb I would put it on mander, Joint Task Force Seven; the Iraq that want peace around the world. the table. There is no reason for Libya and Survey Group, responsible for the search for CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION (CODEL) the United States not to have good relations. weapons of mass destruction; representatives WELDON TO LIBYA, TUNISIA, KUWAIT, IRAQ, The right course is the one you have taken: of the primary factions of the Iraqi Gov- PAKISTAN, AFGHANISTAN, UZBEKISTAN, AND to come here and meet . . . the policies were erning Council; and the Deputy Commanding GERMANY—JANUARY 25–31, 2004 wrong in the past. We can’t rectify such General, 1st Armored Division, responsible for the security of Baghdad. SUMMARY wrongs . . . We have to compensate for what we have missed. . . I highly value your visit Four members of the delegation met with A bipartisan congressional delegation because it is necessary that you know us Sheik Saud al Sabah, former Kuwaiti Am- (CODEL) led by Representative Curt Weldon very well. Because once you know us well, bassador to the United States, to renew ac- (R-PA), traveled to Tripoli, Libya; Tunis, then you will take the appropriate policy de- quaintances and discuss the general polit- Tunisia; Kuwait City, Kuwait; Baghdad, cisions.’’ ical, economic, and military situation in the Balad Air Base, and Ad Dawr, Iraq; He further commented regarding what he region. Sheik Sabah has personally estab- Islamabad, Pakistan; Kabul, Afghanistan; believed to be a lack of knowledge in the lished a fund for families of U.S. military Karshi Kharnabad (‘‘K2’’), Uzbekistan; and U.S. about Libya’s government: personnel killed in the 1991 Gulf War. Ramstein Air Base and Landstuhl Regional ‘‘Americans don’t even know the governing Coalition Provisional Authority Medical Center, Germany January 25–31, system in Libya. We know the governing sys- Ambassador Bremer indicated that work 2004. The delegation met with the leadership tem in the U.S.: the White House, the NSC continues on formulating the strategic of Libya, Afghanistan, and Iraqi Governing (National Security Council), Congress . . . framework for Iraqi security, its economy, Council representatives, the former Kuwaiti We know about the Pentagon. We know and political transition. He noted that while Ambassador to the United States, reviewed about the newspapers, one by one. We even the security situation had improved, there U.S. military operations and visited per- know the writers. We know names of compa- still exists a major terrorist threat. He fur- sonnel supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom nies and specializations. Nevertheless, Amer- ther stated that the ‘‘consumption econ- (OIF) in Kuwait and Iraq and Operation En- icans don’t know anything about our con- omy’’ is working well, but structural prob- during Freedom (OEF) in Pakistan, Afghani- gresses, peoples’ committees, revolutionary lems exist, largely due to the distorting eco- stan and Uzbekistan. The delegation in- committees, social structure, leadership, or nomic effects of five cents a gallon gasoline. cluded: anything about the Green Book.’’ The focus is in getting capital into the econ- Representative Curt Weldon (R-PA) Colonel Gaddafi also mentioned criticism omy. Work continues, as well, on the transi- Representative Solomon Ortiz (D-TX) from Arab countries he said was aimed at tion to a National Assembly by July 1, 2004.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:33 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00074 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K04FE7.160 H04PT1 February 4, 2004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H385 Differences within the Governing Council special advisor for WMD, apparently Dr. Kay His Highness, Zahir Shah and among the general populace on the selec- sought total control of all the assets under The former King, Zahir Shah, thanked the tion of delegates by caucus or direct election the ISG for the sole purpose of the hunt for delegation for U.S. assistance in establishing continue to cause significant debate and pub- WMD. It was a matter of ‘‘all or nothing.’’ peace and security in Afghanistan. He ob- lic demonstrations. Ambassador Bremer And when he didn’t get all of the assets— served that the political process in Afghani- noted that an announcement is due in the even when those assets were increased to stan is based on a tribal structure—a democ- near future from the United Nations on its provide additional funds for areas other than racy that functions within a tribal struc- recommendations on elections in Iraq based the search for WMD, Dr. Kay objected, ulti- ture—with the same goals as the people in on the results of a study completed by a vis- mately being a factor in his departure. America. iting United Nations team. Those responsible for the search for WMD Uzbekistan, January 29–30 CJTF–7 in Iraq believe that while no large stockpiles of WMD have yet to be uncovered, no short- Following meetings in Kabul, the delega- General Sanchez indicated that the num- age of leads exist—with literally tens-of-mil- tion traveled to Karshi-Kharnabad (‘‘K2’’), ber of attacks by former regime elements, lions of documents remaining to be fully ex- Uzbekistan, to visit U.S. military personnel foreign terrorists, and others had continued amined and considerable leads and cir- supporting OEF. In addition to being able to to decline since the capture of Hussein, now cumstantial evidence to be pursued—‘‘with speak informally at the evening and break- averaging less than 20 per day, down from a much remaining to be done.’’ fast meals with personnel from their dis- high of 50 per day. General Dayton believes the declared fail- tricts, the delegation received mission ori- Iraqi Governing Council ure by some to yet find large stockpiles of entated briefings, toured a mission aircraft, The delegation met with four members of nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons is and viewed a static display of a Uzbek Air the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC), rep- premature and ignores the significance of Force SU–27. resenting the primary political and religious the evidence that has been found about the Germany, January 30–31 factions within Iraq. The President of the undisputed activities in each of these areas Commander, USAF Europe and U.S. Consul IGC, Dr. Adrian Pachachi, a secularist, indi- providing evidence of future intentions and General cated the Council was in the final phase of breakout capabilities being pursued and General ‘‘Doc’’ Foglesong and Consul Gen- establishing basic laws, establishing the de- proven to have existed. In the nuclear area, eral (CG) Peter Bodde discussed NATO-re- tails of a provisional government, and com- Dr. Kay said as recently as January 28 that, lated military and regional political issues. pleting the constitution. Dr. Pachachi fur- ‘‘Look, the man had the intent to acquire General Foglesong described the challenges ther indicated his belief that the draft con- these weapons, he invested huge amounts of posed by making the NATO Response Force stitution covers every conceivable right: money in them. The fact is he wasn’t suc- (NRF) viable given the current limited expe- freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, the cessful.’’ ditionary capabilities of the NRF. He also rule of law, etc. Three of the four council In the end, Dr. Kay’s judgment, regardless described the efforts at re-sizing NATO and members—Dr. Pachachi, the Sunni, and Shia of the disappointment resident in the ISG, U.S. operations—‘‘mining manpower posi- IGC Members—were unanimous in stating came down on the side of the continued tions’’—and the use of ‘‘reach back capabili- their views that it is an oversimplification search. In an interview on NBC in which he ties’’ to allow functions in the U.S. such as to conclude that individual Iraqi religious was asked to comment on whether it was intelligence to support the European theater affiliation dictates the views of the Iraqi prudent to go to war, Dr. Kay said ‘‘I think instead of having to have the capability resi- people on various policy issues: ‘‘the reality it was absolutely prudent. In fact, I think at dent in Europe. General Foglesong further is that the fanatics are a tiny minority, but the end of the inspection process we’ll paint described efforts to develop niche capabili- very vocal and very well organized.’’ The a picture of Iraq that was far more dan- ties among NATO partners to preclude all Sunni IGC member indicated that Sunni and gerous than we even thought it was before nations from having to have all military ca- Shia will vote on the issues, not on the basis the war . . .’’ pabilities with some developing expedi- of religion, but on the substance of the issues Balad Air Base-Ad Dawr tionary capabilities for billeting, some with under consideration—‘‘the educated middle At Balad Air Base, the delegation met with medical, others with civil engineering, etc. class in Iraq is much more open minded.’’ the Commanding General of the 4th Infantry Representative Souder expressed his deep The Kurdish member stated that the Kurds Division, Major General Mike Odierno and concern regarding Austria’s, France’s, Tur- live under a different system and different the Commander, Third Brigade, 4th ID, Colo- key’s and Germany’s various degrees of lack culture, observing that they have suffered nel Fred Rudesheim. The delegation also vis- of support for U.S. operations in Iraq. He under Iraqi rule, and ‘‘have the right to es- ited the capture site of Saddam Hussein at also commented on the cumbersome rules of tablish their own way.’’ Dr. Pachachi, ac- Ad Dawr. At each stop the Members had an engagement within NATO in the war in knowledged that ‘‘from the beginning we opportunity to meet with military personnel Kosovo. General Foglesong indicated his have recognized that the Kurds are distinct, from their home states and districts. ‘‘cautious optimism’’ about relations and that their special status will be maintained. support in dealing with the countries within We are in the process of agreeing to that ar- Afghanistan, January 29 NATO: ‘‘They recognize that terrorists don’t rangement.’’ Dr. Pachachi further indicated The delegation met with President Hamid recognize borders.’’ that the problem at hand is deciding the best Karzai and the former King of Afghanistan, Representative Ortiz, expressing frustra- way to select members of the legislature: Zahir Shah. President Karzai expressed his tion, observed that ‘‘it would be nice if the ‘‘The problem is that it will be difficult to appreciation to the delegation for the many State Department would consider us (Con- have credible elections in such a short period sacrifices made by America to further polit- gress) equal players,’’ indicating the both . . . If the UN doesn’t believe elections are ical stability, economic progress, and in- State and Defense Departments frequently possible, they will likely propose other possi- creased employment in Afghanistan and for take action without consultation or regard bilities.’’ America’s continued war on terrorism . . . for the views of Congress. ‘‘Our people know what America has done.’’ Iraq Survey Group Chairman Weldon concluded that regard- He described the Loya Jirga process, the Major General Keith Dayton, Director of less of the some troubling aspects in the exe- adoption of the Afghan Constitution, pat- the Iraqi Survey Group, provided a classified cution of foreign policy and some military terned after the U.S. Constitution, and the update on the search for weapons of mass de- operations, ‘‘the American peoples’ support anticipated general elections. struction and counter terrorism programs. A and the support of Congress for the troops common misperception is that Dr. Kay head- President Hamid Karzai are solid and unequivocal—and the troops ed the hunt for WMD. While Dr. Kay has President Karzai cited the key importance need to know that.’’ been a very valuable advisor in the hunt for of Pakistan to stability in Afghanistan, by Contingency Aero-medical Staging Facility & WMD, General Dayton has headed the group not interfering in Afghan affairs, yet assist- Lanstuhl Regional Medical Center responsible for the hunt for WMD since its ing in elimination of the Taliban threat. The The delegation visited with injured mili- inception in June 2003, and with Dr. Kay’s President and the delegation discussed the tary personnel from Afghanistan and Iraq at departure, will continue to head the group. significant problem of continued high levels the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center and What can be said about the delegations’ of poppy cultivation in Afghanistan. Presi- Aero-medical Staging Facility at Ramstein discussions is that there, the people in the dent Karzai acknowledged. Afghanistan’s Air Base. The delegation was pleased to pro- trenches actually doing the day-to-day failed efforts to eliminate poppy cultivation vide transportation for ten soldiers, awaiting searches, collecting, and analyzing the data and described the government’s plan to de- transportation to the U.S. to continue their and material, expressed a sense of ‘‘frustra- stroy poppy fields, while assisting farmers in treatment at Walter Reed Army Medical tion and dismay’’ over ‘‘what Dr Kay is alternative crop cultivation, interdiction of Center for injuries suffered in Iraq. doing’’—or at least some of the media’s char- drug routes, and destruction of heroin pro- acterizations of ‘‘what Dr. Kay is doing,’’ as duction labs. The President concluded that Political, Economic, and Security he exits from his high visibility role in the for Afghanistan to emerge as a nation-state Environment hunt for WMD. it has to destroy the poppy crop: ‘‘to destroy The CODEL visit to Libya came shortly The ISG has responsibilities beyond the terrorism, we must destroy poppies.’’ The after Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi’s sole search for WMD. Although not the Com- delegation cited its support and commitment pledge to rid his country of weapons of mass mander of the ISG, but responsible as the to Afghanistan, ‘‘for the long haul.’’ destruction.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:33 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00075 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A04FE7.079 H04PT1 H386 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 4, 2004 The Iraq visit took place six weeks after Overview of Ministry, Legislative, Educational, Colonel Gaddafi commented on the criti- the capture of Saddam Hussein near Ad Dawr & Foundation Meetings cism he said was aimed at Libya for deciding and nine months after the declared end to The delegation met with Colonel Gaddafi to eliminate its WMD programs: major combat operations in Iraq. In October for two hours and had fourteen other meet- ‘‘In the past there have been bad medi- 2003, Congress had approved President Bush’s ings with senior ministry, legislative, edu- ators. Tunisia, Egypt and other Arab coun- $87 billion fiscal year 2004 supplemental re- cational, and charitable foundations. The tries see it as not in their best interests for quest for military, intelligence, and recon- delegation spoke with the Libyan leaders Libya and the United States to have good re- struction costs in Iraq and Afghanistan. Acts about cooperative governmental and non- lations. They are benefiting from the embar- of terrorism being conducted by former re- governmental programs that could be devel- go and seek a continuation for their own in- gime elements, fundamentalist extremists, oped and instituted, much like has been done terests. How would you expect them to work foreign terrorists, and common criminals with the parliaments of other countries. for good relations between Libya and Amer- against coalition forces and Iraqi civilians Chairman Weldon noted that discussions re- ica? The Arabs are waging a fierce campaign continued to cause casualties, although at a garding such programs could be started im- against us for deciding to get rid of WMD. I reduced rate since Hussein’s capture and the mediately upon normalization of relations. hope they are not successful in taking re- end of Ramadan. The Iraqi people, particu- Chairman Weldon prefaced each of the dis- venge against us. I hope that even Libyans larly the police, have increasingly become cussions with Libyan leaders with an expla- are not sorry for taking such a step. It all de- the target of the random terrorist attacks. nation of the congressional role in the U.S. pends on your supporting us. It does deserve The Afghanistan visit came shortly after federal system of separate, but equal support and encouragement so that Libyans the adoption of the Afghanistan constitution branches of government: ‘‘We are not here to won’t be disappointed.’’ by the ‘‘Loya Jirga.’’ Lingering Taliban ele- negotiate, that is the responsibility of the Chairman Weldon stated that before com- ments and Al Qaeda continued efforts to executive branch of our government. But ing to Libya the delegation had been told by threaten the evolution of democratic Af- after you take the necessary steps to follow U.S. officials of the positive attitude taken ghanistan through intimidation and sporadic through on your stated intention to elimi- by Libyans in cooperating with the survey of terrorist attacks against coalition forces, nate your WMD programs, Congress can en- Libyan WMD programs and initial steps to non-governmental international aid organi- courage our President and Secretary of State implement the WMD program elimination. zations and Afghans. to expedite normalization of relations with ‘‘There is no doubt in my mind that your OVERVIEW your country. Following that, we can work policies and leadership will lead to normal- ized relations between our countries. Even A bipartisan congressional delegation with you, like we have with a number of President Bush, in his recent State of the (CODEL) comprised of eight Members of Con- other parliaments around the world, to es- Union message, mentioned Libya as a model gress, led by Representative Curt Weldon (R- tablish governmental and non-governmental for other countries. You have to understand PA), traveled to Tripoli, Libya; Tunis, Tuni- programs to bring our two countries closer that President Bush has been criticized by sia; Kuwait City, Kuwait; Baghdad, Balad together and improve the welfare of both our elements of our society for calling Libya a Air Base, and Ad Dawr, Iraq; Islamabad, peoples.’’ The discussions with Colonel model, just as you have been criticized by Pakistan; Kabul, Afghanistan; Karshi Gaddafi and all other senior leaders with Arab leaders who want to see Libya and Kharnabad (‘‘K2’’), Uzbekistan; and whom the delegation met were extraor- dinarily positive regarding the potential for America stay apart.’’ Ramstein Air Base and Landstuhl Regional Chairman Weldon indicated that normal- Medical Center, Germany January 25–31, normalized relations between Libya and the U.S. ization of relations between the two coun- 2004. The delegation met with the leadership tries would permit initiatives to be under- of Libya and Afghanistan, representatives of Colonel Gaddafi taken between the Libyan General Peoples’ the Iraqi governing Council (IGC), the former Colonel Gaddafi thanked Chairman Weldon Congress and the U.S. Congress, much like Kuwaiti Ambassador to the U.S., reviewed for making the visit possible: ‘‘coming at a has been done with the Russian Duma and U.S. military operations and visited per- very critical time,’’ observing that he wished other parliaments, to further government sonnel supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom that ‘‘such a meeting could have taken place and non-governmental cooperation between (OIF) in Kuwait and Iraq and Operation En- thirty years ago’’ and stating his ‘‘hope to be peoples of the two countries, leading to bet- during Freedom (OEF) in Pakistan, Afghani- able to compensate for what we missed.’’ He ter understanding, peaceful cooperation, and stan and Uzbekistan. In addition, thousands commented at length on the need for coun- providing for a better quality of life for all of Valentines Day cards from U.S. school tries to communicate and engage in dialogue people: ‘‘The path forward will not be easy, children as well as other gifts were presented before taking up arms against one another. but most good things you have to work hard to U.S. troops serving in OIF and OEF in He denied any responsibility for the night for . . . I am convinced that if we work hard Iraq, Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan in the war club bombing in 1986 that led to the U.S. on our side as you have on your side, we can against terrorism. bombing of Libya and the death of his step start a new chapter in our relationship, not Tripoli, Libya, January 25–26 daughter: to judge your country, your culture, but to ‘‘For 30 years we haven’t discussed any- The delegation was the first bipartisan work together, as partners.’’ thing with each other . . . taking the wrong congressional delegation to visit Libya and The delegation encouraged the Libyan approach, right from the beginning, with meet with Colonel Moammar Gaddafi in 35 leader to follow through on his encouraging wars, losses, damage, loss of valuable time, years. public statements regarding elimination of without a good, specific reason for doing so Libyan weapons of mass destruction (WMD) Arrival Meeting . . . The picture of Gaddafi in the U.S. is not programs, with swift, verifiable elimination The delegation was met by a delegation led a real one. When I took the decision on of WMD programs. by Abdullatife Aldali, Chairman of the Trip- elimination of weapons of mass destruction, oli Conference, who welcomed the delega- I did it for my people, out of conviction . . . General Peoples’ Congress Great Jamahiriya tion: ‘‘We look forward to a new relationship If I had the atomic bomb I would put it on Zinati Zinati, Speaker of the General Peo- between Libya and America.’’ the table. There is no reason for Libya and ples’ Congress Great Jamahiriya, welcomed Following an introduction of the delega- the United States not to have good relations. the delegation and expressed his apprecia- tion, Chairman Weldon indicated the delega- The right course is the one you have taken: tion for the ‘‘extraordinary effort’’ the dele- tion was in Libya to open a new chapter in to come here and meet . . . the policies were gation took to be in Libya: ‘‘This is evidence U.S.-Libyan relations, to listen and learn wrong in the past. We can’t rectify such of the great will on your part to develop, from its Libyan counterparts: ‘‘There are wrongs . . . We have to compensate for what promote and enhance relations between our strong U.S. interests in both political parties we have missed. . . .I highly value your visit two countries.’’ The Speaker provided the to be friends with Libya, to work to resolve because it is necessary that you know us delegation with a general overview of the common concerns. We don’t come here to very well. Because once you know us well, structure of the ‘‘basic congresses’’ and the represent the Secretary of State or the then you will take the appropriate policy de- General People’s Congress, the annual legis- President, but as representatives of a co- cision.’’ lative agenda, and the Libya legislative pro- equal branch of the United States Govern- He further commented at length at what cedures. ment, looking forward to normalized rela- he believed to be a lack of knowledge in the Chairman Weldon noted that the delega- tions between our countries.’’ Chairman U.S. about Libya’s government: tion was the first U.S. bipartisan delegation Weldon described many of the inter-par- ‘‘You don’t even know the governing sys- to visit Libya in over 35 years. He expressed liamentary relationships Congress has with tem in Libya. We know the governing system his appreciation for the warm reception and the parliaments in Russia, Ukraine, in the U.S.: the White House, the NSC (na- how this portended very productive discus- Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and the European tional security council), Congress. We know sions. The Chairman also cited the grati- Parliament and indicated his hope that there about the Pentagon. We know about the fying experience of the delegation shortly would one day be a similar relationship with newspapers, one by one. We even know the after the official arrival when the delegation the General Peoples’ Congress Great writers. We know names of companies and had been able to take advantage of a short Jamahiriya of Libya. specializations. Nevertheless, Americans period before the beginning of the official Representative Ortiz indicated that there don’t know anything about our congresses, itinerary to visit the nearby souq (market). is much to be gained by both countries by peoples’ committees, revolutionary commit- There, the delegation had an opportunity to being friends and thanked the hosts for their tees, social structure, leadership, or any- meet several Libyans, including small chil- warm welcome. thing about the Green Book.’’ dren, shopping and tending their stores, who

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:33 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00076 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A04FE7.083 H04PT1 February 4, 2004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H387 in each and every case warmly greeted the gresses support national liberation for states missteps, the U.S. could have an Embassy members of the delegation, often in English. and nations and call for the respect of here in 300 days.’’ Chairman Weldon indicated that the dele- human rights and condemns all forms of ter- Prime Minister Ghanem stated that ‘‘with gation had come to Libya to praise Col rorism. This policy also believes that the good intentions, with each party trying to Gaddafi for the ‘‘bold steps he had taken to only way to resolve conflicts is through dia- understand one another,’’ differences can be begin to bring our countries back together.’’ logue, calling for peace, stability, and order worked out: ‘‘When we talk we understand ‘‘The positive steps Libya has taken in set- and cooperation between peoples and states. one another. You are a big country—a super tling international claims against Libya; This policy believes that prosperity is power—we are a small country, yet neither agreeing to rejoin international non-pro- achieved through democracy and develop- of us has a monopoly on wisdom. We have a liferation organizations and treaties; and de- ment. Therefore Libya, thanks to the revolu- duty to one another, and should not listen to clared intentions to deal with weapons of tion, has been able to provide all types of a third party. We are very interested in mass destruction have been very well re- rights to the people: utilities, education, going the whole way. We suffered from ter- ceived around the world. In fact the focus of human resources, housing, fresh water—all rorism more than you. We failed to commu- the world is on Libya. It is a positive focus, related to mankind. In spite of the term nicate. We need to talk.’’ Chairman Weldon that can lead to normalized relations be- human rights not being precisely defined, my added: ‘‘Honesty and candor are critical.’’ tween our countries. We came to let your country has signed onto all treaties related Representative Gallegly mentioned the Congress know that once normalized rela- to human rights.’’ change that has taken place in American at- tions can be established, that our Congress Secretary Shahoumi, commenting on ter- titudes and the high level of apprehension can work with you, like we have done with rorism, cited the difficulty in ‘‘differen- that exists since 9/11. He further commented the parliaments of Ukraine, Russia, Europe, tiating between terrorism and the legitimate on the ‘‘extremely warm welcome’’ the dele- and other parliaments to establish coopera- right of nations and peoples to fight for their gation had received. He added that ‘‘the tive programs for the benefit of both our peo- freedom and human rights.’’ He added that, press can often become the wedge, frequently ples.’’ ‘‘we deny and refuse the ways of connecting seeing the glass as half empty. We can’t let Chairman Weldon further described the de- terrorism and Islam because we believe ter- the press control the debate on this issue.’’ tailed program established with the Russian rorism has no religion, has no state or coun- Prime Minister responded that: ‘‘the people Duma outlined in A New Time, A New Begin- try or home, and has no nationality.’’ are open and warm and have no grudges ning, as described in attachment 3, prepared In commenting on weapons of mass de- whatsoever.’’ by members of the U.S. Congress, that was struction, the Secretary noted that ever Prime Minister Ghanem concluded that promulgated for the purpose of providing a since the 1969 Revolution, Libya has been after 9/11 the whole world is different: ‘‘We catalyst for Russia and the U.S. to work to- calling for making the Middle East a region can work together. Libya is a small country. gether to benefit the peoples of both coun- free of weapons of mass destruction, includ- When we talk and listen you can find wisdom tries. He explained that a similar program ing nuclear weapons: in a small country. You will find us a good and process for implementation could be es- ‘‘But nobody has ever responded to this ally. The United States was the number one tablished between Libya and the U.S. once initiative. Therefore because of no response place we sent our students. We would like to normalized relations could be achieved. He to our initiative, we thought as a small do that again.’’ further states ‘‘that, something more fun- country, a modest way to protect ourselves Foreign Minister damentally important that can occur is to was to establish WMD as part of our defense Foreign Minister Abdulrakman Shalgam change the image of Libya in America, and policy. However, after breakthroughs in re- stated: ‘‘it is an honor for us to start a new the world. The American people have a lim- solving conflicts like UTA and Lockerbie era of relations with the U.S. . . . I believe ited knowledge of Libya. By enhancing our and because of serious thoughts of the inter- this is a chance for you to learn about our formal relationship between our parliaments national community to get rid of WMD, people. Our expectation, our ideas and we would have an opportunity to further un- Libya decided to formally announce its deci- thoughts can benefit from international derstanding between our peoples.’’ sion to dismantle its WMD programs. In this peace . . . In the past there was a joint mis- Representative Ortiz commented that regard, we wish to express our deep apprecia- understanding. It is the mission for both of ‘‘someone has a vision to get us together and tion for the positive international response us to clear up that misunderstanding . . . I want to thank my Chairman for his vi- to our initiative and we again call for mak- Certain circumstances caused a misunder- sion.’’ Mr. Ortiz quoted LBJ (Lyndon Baines ing the region a WMD-free zone. As a step to standing. We started a bit late, but better Johnson): that end, Libya has signed all relevant trea- late than never. It is an honor to be receiv- ‘‘Let’s sit down and reason together.’’ Add- ties and conventions related to this topic, in- ing the first delegation from America.’’ ing, ‘‘that is what we are here to do today. cluding treaties banning all types of experi- Chairman Weldon stated that the delega- There have been incidents that have caused ments related to WMD . . . And we call on tion didn’t know what to expect in coming to us to drift apart. We can’t change history, your support to make the Middle East a Libya: ‘‘Your people have overwhelmed us but we don’t want to repeat it . . . We have WMD-free zone.’’ with their warm greetings—in your markets taken the first step. I come from Texas and The Secretary further provided his view and in all of our meetings . . . The eyes of we have had a great relationship with Libya that the people of Libya believe and have in the world are on Libya because of what you in the past. We have only been here a few fact published a White Book on the topic of have done. Your decision to rid your country hours, but I like what I see and I like what peace in the Middle East. He indicated the of WMD and rejoin related treaties has I hear. For the sake of the future genera- White Book makes a ‘‘practical and persua- caused Libya to become the centerpiece for tions, we need to give them a chance to hope, sive case’’ for making Israel and Palestine a discussion all over our country. The highest to dream, and to plan. We pledge we will do ‘‘bi-state country,’’ modeled after South Af- respect we can give is coming here person- everything to strengthen the bonds between rica, with Muslims, Jews, and Christians all ally . . . As you know, we are not here to ne- our two countries.’’ living together with ‘‘all rights and duties.’’ gotiate, that is not our job. But if you con- Chairman Weldon thanked the Speaker for Representative Issa observed that Libya’s tinue the path you have chosen, as an equal the efforts of Saif al Saleem al Gaddafi, stated intent to eliminate its WMD programs branch of our government, we believe we can Colonel Gaddafi’s son, and Abdulmagid represents a ‘‘huge step’’ toward the goal of institute a process that will benefit both of Mansouri, a member of the International En- a WMD-free Middle East: ‘‘Your offer made our peoples. We have spoken with your Con- ergy Advisory Council for their efforts in fa- in Beirut two years ago to normalize rela- gress about that day and talked to them cilitating the visit of the delegation. Chair- tions with Israel was also a huge step . . . I about the work we have done with other par- man Weldon further stated that: ‘‘I am will have to admit that I am a little cynical liaments. We are excited, optimistic, and happy we are opening a new door between that Palestinians and Jews should join into with your leadership, we believe normalized our countries and I want to keep that door one country so readily. Your dream is still a relations can be established.’’ open and not repeat the tragedies of the good one. Either option is acceptable to me. Representative Ortiz observed that he past.’’ I hope you will join us in seeking either op- Suleiman Al Shahoumi, Secretary of For- never believed that one day he would be in tion as an acceptable approach to achieving eign Affairs of the General Peoples’ Con- Tripoli. He also spoke of the warm greetings peace in the Middle East.’’ gress, observed that: extended to the delegation. Prime Minister ‘‘Libya is a small country that inherited Gaddafi International Foundation for Chari- an ancient system with people living in pov- Prime Minister Shokri Ghanem observed table Associations the Gaddafi Human Rights erty and experiencing starvation. The revo- that strained relations between Libya and Foundation & The Libyan Red Crescent lution in 1969 sought to bring up the level of the U.S. existed due to ‘‘misunderstandings The delegation visited with officials of the life for the Libyan people. The Libyan people or misfortunes,’’ and Libya wishes to change Gaddafi International Foundation for Chari- have chosen a political system—a direct de- that. table Associations, the Gaddafi Human mocracy—in harmony with Libya’s culture Representative Issa stated that it is impor- Rights Foundation, and the Libyan Red and principles in life . . . A system based on tant to sustain the momentum that has de- Crescent to discuss their programs. placing all authority in the hands of the peo- veloped in normalizing relations: ‘‘Momen- ple, distributed through 450 Peoples’ Basic tum is like magic when it works . . . it is Al Fateh University Congresses. This system is independent and about expectations. Colonel Gaddafi turned The delegation met with the President of balanced . . . The policies of these con- on a dime in an amazing way. With no Al Fateh University, department heads, and

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:33 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00077 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A04FE7.087 H04PT1 H388 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 4, 2004 delivered introductory letters from Amer- ing to that arrangement.’’ Dr. Pachachi fur- region. Sheik Sabah has personally estab- ican University students to students of the ther indicated that the problem at hand is lished a fund for families of U.S. military University. Professor Tarhuui read a poem deciding the best way to select members of personnel killed in the 1991 Gulf War. that he had prepared to celebrate the delega- the legislature: ‘‘The problem is that it will Balad Air Base & Ad Dawr, January 28 tion’s visit, attachment 4. be difficult to have credible elections in such Major General Ray Odierno, Commanding Baghdad, Iraq, January 27 a short period . . . If the U.N. doesn’t believe General, 4th Infantry Division, and Colonel The delegation traveled to Baghdad to elections are possible, they will likely pro- Frederick Rudesheim, Commander, 3rd Bri- meet with and receive updates from L. Paul pose other possibilities.’’ gade Combat Team, 4th ID, escorted the del- Bremer, Administrator of the Coalition Pro- Iraq Survey Group egation to the site of Saddam Hussein’s cap- visional Authority; General Sanchez, Com- Major General Keith Dayton, Director of ture near Ad Dawr and briefed the delegation mander, Joint Task Force Seven; the Iraq the Iraqi Survey Group, provided a classified on operations and reconstruction efforts in Survey Group, responsible for the search for update on the search for weapons of mass de- his area of responsibility. weapons of mass destruction; representatives struction and counterterrorism programs. A Islamabad, Pakistan January 29 of the primary factions of the Iraqi Gov- common misperception is that Dr. Kay head- AMB Nancy J. Powell briefed the delega- erning Council; and the Deputy Commanding ed the hunt for WMD. While Dr. Kay has tion on issues relating to the bilateral rela- General, 1st Armored Division, responsible been a very valuable advisor in the hunt for tionship between the United States and for the security of Baghdad. WMD, General Dayton has headed the group Pakistan, and responded to members’ ques- Coalition Provisional Authority responsible for the hunt for WMD since its tions. Ambassador Bremer indicated that work inception in June 2003, and with Dr. Kay’s Chairman Weldon asked if Usama Bin continues on formulating the strategic departure will continue to head the group. Ladin were in Baluchistan (the southern framework for Iraqi security, its economy, What can be said about the delegation’s tribal area bordering Afghanistan), and if he and political transition. He indicated that discussions is that there, the people in the were being protected by Pakistani govern- while the security situation had improved, trenches actually doing the day-to-day ment officials. AMB Powell responded that there still exists a major terrorist threat. He searches, collecting, and analyzing the data she does not believe there are Al Qaeda sym- further indicated that the ‘‘consumption and material, expressed a sense of ‘‘frustra- pathizers among the Pakistani leadership, economy’’ is working well, but structural tion and dismay’’ over ‘‘what Dr. Kay is but the question of Taliban supporters is problems exist, largely due to the distorting doing’’—or at least some of the media’s char- ‘‘trickier.’’ She noted that in general, Paki- effects of five cents a gallon gasoline. The acterization of ‘‘what Dr. Kay is doing,’’ as stani cooperation has been excellent: Khalid focus is in getting capital into the economy. he exits from his high visibility role in the Sheikh Mohammed was taken down by Paki- Work continues, as well, on the transition to hunt for WMD. stani elements, and that another high value a National Assembly by July 1, 2004. Dif- The ISG has responsibilities beyond the target was captured within 90 minutes of ferences within the Governing Council and sole search for WMD. Although not the Com- transmitting U.S. intelligence to Pakistani among the general populace on the selection mander of the ISG, but responsible as the forces. of delegates by caucus or direct election con- special advisor for WMD, apparently Dr. Kay Chairman Weldon followed up with a ques- tinue to cause significant debate and public sought total control of all the assets under tion concerning the likelihood of assassina- demonstrations. An announcement is due in the ISG for the sole purpose of the hunt for tion of President Musharraf AMB Powell re- the near future from the United Nations on WMD. It was a matter of ‘‘all or nothing.’’ sponded that it is always a danger—he re- its recommendations on elections in Iraq And when he didn’t get all of the assets— cently survived two attempts on his life, based on the results of a study completed by even when those assets were increased to which Musharraf blames on Al-Qaeda. AMB a visiting United Nations team. provide additional funds for areas other than Powell pointed out that the 1988 plane crash CJTF–7 the search for WMD, Dr. Kay objected, ulti- that claimed the life of President Zia is still mately being a factor in his departure. Lieutenant General (LTG) Ricardo surrounded by questions. Those responsible for the search for WMD Chairman Weldon asked how extensive our Sanchez, the senior U.S. military officer in in Iraq believe that while no large stockpiles Iraq (Commending General V Corps and Coa- contacts with Pakistani officials were. AMB of WMD have yet to be uncovered, no short- Powell responded that we lost contact with lition Joint Task Force 7), provided an up- age of leads exist—with literally tens-of-mil- date on combat, security, and U.S. military an entire generation of Pakistani officers lions of documents remaining to be fully ex- when Pakistan was under sanctions between personnel issues. General Sanchez indicated amined and considerable leads and cir- that the number of attacks by former regime 1990–2001, but just this last year we brought cumstantial evidence to be pursued—‘‘with 75 junior officers into our training programs. elements, foreign terrorists, and others had much remaining to be done.’’ continued to decline since the capture of Chairman Weldon also asked about the F–16s General Dayton believes the declared fail- that Pakistan bought but were denied under Hussein, averaging less than 20 per day, down ure by some to yet find large stockpiles of from a high of 50 per day. sanctions, and AMB Powell replied that they nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons is had been paid back. Iraqi Governing Council premature and ignores the significance of Chairman Weldon suggested that Chairman The delegation met with four members of the evidence that has been found about the Souder lead an effort to create a tripartite the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC), rep- undisputed activities in each of these areas interparliamentary exchanges with Paki- resenting the primary political and religious providing evidence of future intentions and stani, Indian, and U.S. legislators. AMB factions within Iraq. The President of the breakout capabilities being pursued and Powell remarked that this would be particu- IGC, Dr. Adnan Pachachi, a secularist, indi- proven to have existed. In the nuclear area, larly helpful to Pakistani parliamentarians: cated the council was in the final phase of Dr. Kay said as recently as January 28 that, they passively await legislation drafted by establishing basic laws, establishing the de- ‘‘Look, the man had the intent to acquire the government; they have no staff; no work- tails of a provisional government, and com- these weapons, he invested huge amounts of ing committee system. pleting the constitution. Dr. Pachachi indi- money in them. The fact is he wasn’t suc- Kabul, Afghanistan January 29 cated his belief that the draft constitution cessful.’’ The delegation met with President Hamid covers every conceivable right: freedom of In the end, Dr. Kay’s judgment, regardless Karzai and the former King of Afghanistan speech, freedom of assembly, the rule of law, of the disappointment resident in the ISG, Zahir Shah. President Karzai expressed his etc. Three of the four members—Dr. came down on the side of the continued appreciation to the delegation for the many Pachachi, the Sunni, and Shia IGC Members search. In an interview on NBC in which he sacrifices made by America to further polit- were unanimous in stating their views that was asked to comment on whether it was ical stability, economic progress, and in- it is an oversimplification to conclude that prudent to go to war, Dr. Kay said ‘‘I think crease employment in Afghanistan and for religious affiliation dictates the views of the it was absolutely prudent. In fact, I think at America’s continued war on terrorism . . . Iraqi people: ‘‘the reality is that the fanatics the end of the inspection process we’ll paint ‘‘Our people know what America has done.’’ are a tiny minority, but very vocal and very a picture of Iraq that was far more dan- He described the Loya Jirga process, the well organized.’’ The Sunni IGC member in- gerous than we even thought it was before adoption of the Afghan Constitution, pat- dicated that Sunni and Shia will vote on the the war . . .’’. terned after the U.S. Constitution, and the issues, not on the basis of religion, but on 1st Armored Division anticipated general elections. the substance of the issues under consider- Brigadier General Mark Hertling, Deputy ation—‘‘the educated middle class in Iraq is President Hamid Karzai Commanding General, 1st Armored Division, much more open minded.’’ President Karzai cited the key importance provided an update on security and Iraqi po- The Kurdish member stated that the Kurds of Pakistan to stability in Afghanistan by lice training programs within Baghdad. live under a different system and culture, not interfering in Afghan affairs, yet assist- that they have suffered under Iraqi rule, and Kuwait, January 27 ing in elimination of the Taliban threat. The ‘‘have the right to establish their own way.’’ Four members of the delegation met with President and the delegation discussed the Dr. Pachachi acknowledged that ‘‘from the Sheik Saud al Sabah, former Kuwaiti Am- significant problem of continued high levels beginning we have recognized that the Kurds bassador to the United States, to renew ac- of poppy cultivation in Afghanistan. Presi- are distinct, that their special status will be quaintances and discuss the general polit- dent Karzai acknowledged Afghanistan’s maintained. We are in the process of agree- ical, economic, and military situation in the failed efforts to eliminate poppy cultivation

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:33 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00078 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A04FE7.091 H04PT1 February 4, 2004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H389 and described the government’s plan to de- Congress. Chairman Weldon also noted what (CPA) (c/o CPA Legislative Affairs, 1401 stroy poppy fields, while assisting farmers in seems to be apparent ‘‘disconnects’’ between Wilson Blvd, Floor 5, Arlington, VA alternative crop cultivation, interdiction of the State Department, DOD, and NSC on for- 22209–2306) drug routes, and destruction of heroin pro- eign policy issues. Dr. Adnan Pachachi, President, Iraqi Gov- duction labs. The President concluded that Chairman Weldon concluded that regard- erning Council (secularist) for Afghanistan to emerge as a nation-state less of the many troubling aspects in the Dr. Roj Schaways, Iraqi Governing Council it has to destroy the poppy crop: ‘‘to destroy execution of foreign policy and some mili- Member (Kurd) terrorism, we must destroy poppies.’’ The tary operations, support for the troops is Dr. Muwaffak A1 Rubuic, Iraqi Governing delegation cited its support and commitment solid and unequivocal and the troops need to Council Member (Shiia religious leader) to Afghanistan, ‘‘for the long haul.’’ know that. Samir Sumaidaie, Iraqi Governing Council His Highness, Zahir Shah Contingency Aero-medical Staging Facility & Member (Sunni) The former King, Zahir Shah, thanked the Lanstuhl Regional Medical Center Ambassador Richmond, UK Special Rep- delegation for U.S. assistance in establishing Colonel Brenda McEleney provided the del- resentative to Iraq peace and security in Afghanistan. He ob- egation a tour of the Contingency Aero-med- Lieutenant General (LTG) Ricardo Sanchez, served that the political process in Afghani- ical Staging Facility where they were able to the senior U.S. military official in Iraq stan is based on a tribal structure—a democ- visit with a number of troops awaiting trans- (Commanding General V Corps and Coali- racy that functions within a tribal struc- portation to Walter Reed Medical Center. tion Joint Task Force 7) (HQ CJTF–7 ture—with the same goals as the people in Colonel Steven Older and Colonel Carol CPA Command Group, Unit 91400, APO America. Gilmore provided the delegation a tour of AE 09342–1400) Major General Keith Dayton, Commander, Karshi-Kharnabad, Uzbekistan, January 29–30 the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center where the delegation was able to meet with Iraqi Survey Group (c/o CPA Legislative The delegation remained overnight at a number of military personnel recovering Affairs, 1401 Wilson Blvd, Floor 5, Arling- Karshi-Kharnabad (‘‘K–2’’), Uzbekistan fol- from injuries sustained in Iraq. ton, VA 22209–2306) lowing meetings in Kabul to visit U.S. mili- The delegation provided transportation Brigadier General Mark Hertling, Deputy tary personnel supporting OEF. In addition from Ramstein Air Base to Andrews Air Commanding General, 1st Armored Divi- to being able to speak informally at the Force Base for ten soldiers en route to Wal- sion (Unit 93054 APO AE 09324–3053) evening and breakfast meals with personnel ter Reed Army Medical Center where they Robert Kelley, Legislative Counselor to Am- from their districts, the delegation received were to receive further treatment for inju- bassador Bremer (c/o CPA Legislative Af- mission orientation briefings and visited ries sustained in Iraq. fairs, 1401 Wilson Blvd, Floor 5, Arling- unit assigned aircraft and a static display of ton, VA 22209–2306) DELEGATION a Uzbek SU–27 provided by the Uzbek Air Lt Colonel Richardson, Distinguished Visi- Force. MEMBERS tors Bureau (Security detail) (c/o CPA Ramstein and Lanstuhl Medical Center Ger- Representative Curt Weldon (R–PA), Rep- Legislative Affairs, 1401 Wilson Blvd, many, January 30–31 resentative Solomon Ortiz (D–TX), Rep- Floor 5, Arlington, VA 22209–2306) General ‘‘Doc’’ Foglesong and Consul General resentative Steve Israel (D–NY)*, Represent- KUWAIT ative Candice Miller (R–MI), Representative Bodde Sheik Saud al Sabah, former Kuwaiti Am- Rodney Alexander (D–LA), Representative General ‘‘Doc’’ Foglesong and Consul Gen- bassador to the United States Elton Gallegly (R–CA)**, Representative eral (CG) Peter Bodde discussed NATO-re- Joe Porto, U.S. Embassy Control Officer (US Mark Souder (R–IN), Representative Darrell lated military and regional political issues. Embassy, Unit 69000, APO AE 098809000) General Foglesong described the challenges Issa (R–CA)**. BALAD AIR BASE posed by making the NATO Response Force PROFESSIONAL STAFF (NRF) viable given the current limited expe- Doug Roach, Harald Stavenas, Richard Major General Ray Odierno, Commanding ditionary capabilities of the NRF. He also Mereu**, Marc Wheat***. General, 4th Infantry Division (ID) (APO AE 92628) described the efforts at re-sizing NATO and U.S. ARMY ESCORTS U.S. operations—‘‘mining manpower posi- Colonel Frederick Rudesheim, Commander, Lt Colonel Craig Collier, Lt Colonel Gregg tions’’—and the use of ‘‘reach back capabili- Third Brigade, 4th ID, APO AE 09323 Blanchard, Sgt Thai Kov, Sgt Hugh Griffin. ties’’ to allow functions in the U.S. such as ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN *Kuwait-Iraq only. intelligence to support the European theater Nancy Powell, U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan, **Libya only. instead of having to have the capability resi- (Unit 62200, APO AE 09812–2200) ***29–31 Jan. dent in Europe. General Foglesong further Joel Reifman, economic section/control offi- described efforts to develop niche capabili- KEY PERSONNEL cer, U.S. Embassy ties among NATO partners to preclude all LIBYA KABUL, AFGHANISTAN nations from having to have all military ca- Colonel Moammar Gaddafi pabilities with some developing expedi- Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan Shokri Ghanem, Prime Minister Zahir Shah, former King of Afghanistan tionary capabilities for billeting, some with Abdulrakman Shalgam, Foreign Minister medical, others with civil engineering, etc. Sardar Abdulwalij, General, retired (nephew Zinati Mohammad Zinati, Speaker of the and associate of H.E. Zahir Shah) Representative Souder expressed his deep General Peoples’ Congress concern regarding Austria’s, France’s, Tur- Zalmay Khalilzad, U.S. Ambassador to Af- Matoug M. Matoug, Deputy Prime Minister ghanistan key’s and Germany’s various degrees of lack for Service Affairs (weapons of mass de- of support for U.S. operations in Iraq. He Hank Tucker, political-military section/con- struction) trol officer, U.S. Embassy also commented on the cumbersome rules of Honorable Suleiman Al Shahoumi, Secretary engagement within NATO in the war in of Foreign Affairs at the General Peo- KARSHI-KHARNABAD, UZBEKISTAN Kosovo, ‘‘when eight foreign ministers were ples’ Congress Jon R. Purnell, U.S. Ambassador to involved in approving target lists.’’ General Dr. Abdulhafed M. Jaber, Director, Technical Uzbekistan (pouch address: 7110 Foglesong cited need for ‘‘balance’’ in each Cooperation Office, Ministry of Service Tashkent Place, Dulles, VA 20189–7110) of these relations and for future planning, Affairs (weapons of mass destruction) Colonel Scott Wagner, Installation Com- the need to assess our abilities to deploy into Abdulatife Aldali, Chairman of Tripoli Con- mander (Unit HHC 213 ASG APO AE and out of various countries and determine ference (Mayor of Tripoli) 09311) which countries will allow the U.S. to Abdulmagid Mansuri, Member, International Lt. Colonel Hosil Mirzaev, Uzbekistan Air ‘‘kinematically execute’’ from their bases. Energy Advisory Council Force, (SU–27 display) The delegation also discussed the status of Tajura Nuclear Research Center relationships with the French and German RAMSTEIN AIR BASE AND LANDSTUHL REGIONAL Professor E.F. Ehtuish, Chairman, Board on governments. General Foglesong and CG MEDICAL CENTER, GERMANY the Environment Bodde highlighted a number of efforts by General Robert (Doc) H. Foglesong, Com- Saleh Saleh, General Manager, Gaddafi Germany to assist the U.S., e.g., providing mander, U.S. Air Forces Europe International Foundation for Charity As- air base security to permit U.S. security per- Lt General Arthur J. Lichte, Vice Com- sociations sonnel to be deployed to support operations mander, U.S. Air Forces Europe Dr. Giuma Atigha, Gaddafi Human Rights like OIF and OEF. General Foglesong indi- Peter W. Bodde, Consul General, U.S. Em- Foundation cated his optimism in dealing with the coun- bassy, Frankfurt (American Consulate Dr. Mohamed Lutf Farhat, President, Al- tries within NATO: ‘‘They recognize that General, Siesmayerstrasse 21, 60323 Fateh University terrorists don’t recognize borders.’’ Frankfurt, Germany) Dr. Muftah M. Etwilb, Director of Inter- Representative Ortiz, expressing frustra- Brigadier General Rosanne Bailey, Com- national Relations, Libyan Red Crescent tion, observed that ‘‘it would be nice if the mander, 435th Air Base Wing Libyan-American Friendship Association State Department would consider us (Con- Colonel Philip Lakier, Deputy Surgeon Gen- gress) equal players,’’ indicating that both BAGHDAD eral, USAF, Europe DOD and DOS frequently take action with- Ambassador L. Paul Bremer, Administrator Colonel Brenda McEleney, Deputy Com- out consultation or regard for the views of of the Coalition Provisional Authority mander, 435th Medical Group

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:33 Feb 05, 2004 Jkt 029060 PO 00000 Frm 00079 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A04FE7.095 H04PT1 H390 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 4, 2004 Colonel Steven Older, Acting Commander, lative program and any special orders States, transmitting a report on trans- Landstuhl Regional Medical Center heretofore entered, was granted to: actions involving U.S. exports to Mexico, Colonel Carol Gilmore, Landstuhl Regional (The following Members (at the re- pursuant to 12 U.S.C. 635(b)(3)(i); to the Com- Medical Center mittee on Financial Services. quest of Mr. HONDA) to revise and ex- Larry Wright, Vice Consul, U.S. Consulate, 6621. A letter from the Chairman and Presi- Frankfurt tend their remarks and include extra- dent, Export-Import Bank of the United neous material:) C–40 AIRCRAFT CREW (FLEET LOGISTICS SUPPORT States, transmitting the Bank’s FY 2003 an- SQUADRON-VR 59, 1050 BOYINGTON DR. FT Mr. BROWN of Ohio, for 5 minutes, nual report for the Sub-Saharan Africa Ini- WORTH, TEXAS 76127–5000) today. tiative; to the Committee on Financial Serv- Mr. FILNER, for 5 minutes, today. ices. Commander Bill Snyder, Aircraft Com- 6622. A letter from the Deputy Director, mander Ms. NORTON, for 5 minutes, today. Defense Security Cooperation Agency, trans- Lt. Commander Benjamin White, Copilot Mr. DEFAZIO, for 5 minutes, today. mitting reports containing the 30 September AE2 Michael Marr, crew chief Mr. HONDA, for 5 minutes, today. 2003 status of loans and guarantees issued AK2 Lyndal Crow, Loadmaster Mr. PALLONE, for 5 minutes, today. under the Arms Export Control Act, pursu- AD1 James Davis, flight attendant Ms. KAPTUR, for 5 minutes, today. ant to 22 U.S.C. 2765(a); to the Committee on HM2 Letty Owour, flight attendant Mr. BLUMENAUER, for 5 minutes, International Relations. AM2 Shawn Smith, maintenance technician today. 6623. A letter from the Assistant Secretary MAI Daniel Topper, security for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, MA2 John Eagles, security Ms. WOOLSEY, for 5 minutes, today. transmitting certification of a proposed li- MA2 Jason Stafford, security Mrs. MALONEY, for 5 minutes, today. cense for the export of major defense equip- MA3 Daniel Veccholla, security f ment and defense articles to Mexico (Trans- A New Time; A New Beginning mittal No. DTC 127-03), pursuant to 22 U.S.C. ENROLLED BILL SIGNED A New Time, A New Beginning was pub- 2776(c); to the Committee on International lished in 2001 under the leadership of Rep- Mr. Trandahl, Clerk of the House, re- Relations. resentative Curt Weldon (PA–7), co-chairman ported and found a truly enrolled bill 6624. A letter from the Assistant Secretary of the Duma-Congress Study Group, to pro- for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, of the House of the following title, transmitting certification of a proposed li- vide a comprehensive bipartisan program for which was thereupon signed by the cooperation between the United States and cense for the export of major defense equip- Speaker: ment and defense articles to Jordan (Trans- Russia. It was endorsed by nearly one-third mittal No. DDTC 128-03), pursuant to 22 of the members of Congress and provides 108 H.R. 2264. An act to authorize appropria- U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Committee on Inter- recommendations for U.S.-Russia coopera- tions for fiscal year 2004 to carry out the national Relations. tion in the following 11 major subject areas: Congo Basin Forest Partnership program, and for other purposes. 6625. A letter from the Assistant Secretary Agricultural Development, Cultural/Edu- for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, cation Development, Defense and Security, f transmitting certification of a proposed li- Economic Development, Energy/Natural Re- cense for the export of major defense equip- sources, Environmental Cooperation, Health BILL PRESENTED TO THE PRESIDENT ment and defense articles to Japan (Trans- Care, Judicial/Legal Systems, Local Govern- mittal No. DDTC 129-03), pursuant to 22 ments, Science and Technology, and Space Jeff Trandahl, Clerk of the House re- U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Committee on Inter- and Aeronautics. ports that on February 4, 2004 he pre- national Relations. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS sented to the President of the United 6626. A letter from the Under Secretary, Welcome, men of Congress. States, for his approval, the following Personnel and Readiness, Department of De- fense, transmitting a report on the audit of To the land of bless. bill. Here, peace is the belief. the American Red Cross for the financial And love is man’s relief. H.R. 2264. An act to authorize appropria- year ending June 30, 2003, pursuant to 36 We are a nation of norms. tions for fiscal year 2004 to carry out the U.S.C. 6; to the Committee on International Disbelievers in terror of all forms. Congo Basin Forest Partnership program, Relations. Destructive arms is not our goal. and for other purposes. 6627. A letter from the General Counsel, General Accounting Office, transmitting a We are for peace, body and soul. f Our guide is sweetness and light, copy of the report on each instance a Federal First in beauty, first in might. ADJOURNMENT agency did not fully implement rec- Think not of terror Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. ommendations made by the GAO in connec- Man’s imposed horror. tion with a bid protest decided during fiscal Speaker, I move that the House do now year 2003, pursuant to 31 U.S.C. 3554(e)(2); to Such sickly deeds adjourn. Are but evil seeds the Committee on Government Reform. The motion was agreed to; accord- 6628. A letter from the Secretary, Depart- That cause man to fall ment of Agriculture, transmitting the De- And end the universe for all. ingly (at 9 o’clock and 31 minutes partment’s Annual Performance and Ac- Dr. T.T. Tarhuui p.m.), under its previous order, the House adjourned until Friday, Feb- countability Report for FY 2003; to the Com- Professor of English, mittee on Government Reform. Al Fateh University ruary 6, 2004, at noon. 6629. A letter from the Chairman, Federal Tripoli Libya f Communications Commission, transmitting f the Commission’s FY 2003 Annual Financial EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, LEAVE OF ABSENCE Report where the Commission received for ETC. the second year in a row an ‘‘Unqualified By unanimous consent, leave of ab- Under clause 8 of rule XII, executive Opinion’’; to the Committee on Government sence was granted to: communications were taken from the Reform. Mr. GUTIERREZ (at the request of Ms. 6630. A letter from the Chairman, Nuclear Speaker’s table and referred as follows: PELOSI) for today on account of illness. Regulatory Commission, transmitting a copy Mr. CULBERSON (at the request of Mr. 6618. A letter from the Under Secretary, of the Commission’s report in compliance Comptroller, Department of Defense, trans- DELAY) for February 3 and today on ac- with the Government in the Sunshine Act mitting the Secretary’s certification that count of attending to official business during the calendar year 2003, pursuant to 5 the current Future Years Defense Program U.S.C. 552b(j); to the Committee on Govern- in his district. (FYDP) fully funds the support costs associ- ment Reform. Mr. LUCAS of Oklahoma (at the re- ated with the Virginia Class submarine 6631. A letter from the Board Members, quest of Mr. DELAY) for February 3 and multiyear FY 2004 through FY 2008 program, Railroad Retirement Board, transmitting a today on account of illness in the fam- pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 2306b(i)(1)(A); to the copy of the Board’s Performance and Ac- ily. Committee on Armed Services. countability Report for Fiscal Year 2003, in- Mr. MCHUGH (at the request of Mr. 6619. A letter from the Acting Under Sec- cluding the Office of Inspector General’s DELAY) for today beginning at 5:30 p.m. retary, Acquisition, Technology, and Logis- Auditor’s Report, Report on Internal Con- on account of official committee busi- tics, Department of Defense, transmitting trol, and Report on Compliance with Laws notification regarding the Department’s re- ness. and Regulations; to the Committee on Gov- port for purchases from foreign entities for ernment Reform. f Fiscal Year 2003, pursuant to Public Law 6632. A letter from the Director, Trade and SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED 104—201, section 827 (110 Stat. 2611); to the Development Agency, transmitting the Committee on Armed Services. Agency’s annual financial audit for FY 2003, By unanimous consent, permission to 6620. A letter from the President and pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2421(e)(2); to the Com- address the House, following the legis- Chairman, Export-Import Bank of the United mittee on Government Reform.

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