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Episode 51: Blowing Snow with a Masters Degree: Leading Young Episode 51: Blowing Snow With a Masters Degree: Leading Young Featuring: Mingo Palacios & Rich Ferreira https://thepdpodcast.com Transcript: Mingo Palacios: 00:08 Hello and welcome to the PD Podcast where we dialogue with some of today's most insightful ministry leaders on topics relevant to the next generation. I'm Mingo Palacios, your host and Pastor of Evangelism in Culture at Saddleback Church. Every episode you'll meet a future focus leader who's changing the face of ministry from millennials by simply observing the past. It's our hope that these conversations challenge you to dream bigger, lead better, and intentionally make time to honor those who let us stand on their shoulders. Thanks for joining us. 1 Mingo Palacios: 00:43 Welcome everybody. This is the Purpose Driven Podcast. My name is Mingo, your host, and today what an awesome day. We're actually at Thrive Conference day two, and who do I stumble upon but old ginger sage. The mentor of Mentors, Richard Ferreira from GTI study tours. Rich and I have a unique history which makes this a really special episode because rich was one of the guys who when I was young and reckless and not yet the leader that I have had the luxury of becoming, I'm not there yet, but certainly I'm farther than when Rich found me, is one of the leaders that spotted me and rolled major dice and put a lot of his leadership equity on the line to bring me to the table. So Rich, thank you for being on today's podcast. Rich Ferreira: 01:37 You know, I kind of want to tell stories about you after that introduction about all the chances that we took with a one young Mingo Palacios II. Mingo Palacios: 01:50 Very squirrely Hispanic kid on your team in an area and in a program where there wasn't a lot of permission for squirreliness. But, this episode is going to be a good one because we're going to talk obviously about GTI and what you do now. But I think that it would be richer, it would be more rich if we talked about the fact that you in your youth were a very, you were a promising prospect. You were given a lot of responsibility at a very young age, which is how we met. And we've got an audience that is always hungry for that opportunity. And so I would just think it'd be really great if you could bring some of that 2 wisdom to the table. We always focus on principles over particulars, right? Not necessarily what you got to do, but what were some of the principles that you looking back 10 years, 20 years realized God was doing in you as a young leader? Because I want to give those to our listeners and maybe as now what you and I are on the other side of that fence, I've got 10 times more gray hair than when we started, but now we're a part of the team that's picking the next generation and were eyeballing the up and coming emerging leaders and we're bridging the gap between season leaders now. So what was it like being, give our audience a little bit of context. How old were you when you were given the shot of shots? Rich Ferreira: 03:15 Sure. You know, those moments where God kind of opens doors that you have no clue where they're going to go. And I was able to finish up seminary really quick. I got done with my master's degree at 22 years of age and found myself sitting in a ministry where I was in charge of running some off-site programs, which, you know, now that I look at, I go, what were they thinking to put an unseasoned unexperienced person fresh out of school, running a program that they couldn't keep an eye on. Mingo Palacios: 03:47 Yeah, totally. Rich Ferreira: 03:49 But I think they knew what they were doing because they didn't give us a budget, so they knew that we couldn't do a lot. 3 Mingo Palacios: 03:54 You can't destroy too much without a lot of money. We know this. Rich Ferreira: 03:59 Exactly. But I remember being given that chance, but really looking at it going, what an opportunity in the first thing that we did was we, you hire good people, you hire people that are going to create a really good team and you know, that's kind of how I found you. You were a squirrely guy who was good at video. Mingo Palacios: 04:15 Yeah, true. And totally outside of the lane that people maybe associate me now with. But that was a, that was unique because it was a trade that got me in the door and I think for young leaders, they always think, man, I could do the stage thing. I could get a microphone, I can be a host, I could be a speaker, but it's usually your specific…Don't worry we're in an airstream. So sometimes things are a little tight here. Rich Ferreira: 04:41 But at least the airstream wasn't falling apart. Mingo Palacios: 04:45 But it's often the particular skills that you bring to the table that will get your foot in the door. Rich Ferreira: 04:51 You bet. And that's how our team came together at that point was they put me in that position because I was from southern California and they go, hey, surf skate camp, even though I don't know how to skate and I don't know how to serve. The San Diego- Mingo Palacios: 04:51 They profiled you. 4 Rich Ferreira: 05:05 They did, they profiled me. If they would look at me they would notice I sunburn really easily. So I wasn't the best for that as far as the look. But we went out and grabbed great people and I remember, you know, the guys we hired for that where people who are go getters who are hard workers willing to do anything because when you're off site, you got to be able to pull off- Mingo Palacios: 05:27 It's kind of like a utility player. Right? Rich Ferreira: 05:29 And then as we found you, you were a video guy and we realized in the process of putting in that position, you were also good at this stage. So whether you wanted it or not, that's, that's where we put you. Mingo Palacios: 05:41 Yeah. That's good. Well, and I think of the fact that you were trusted, it was incremental. And this is a thing that I think a lot of young leaders are missing is the fact that there's a process of trust. There's a process of what you're given access to. And you started, if you even rewind behind that, correct me if I'm wrong, but you started just serving inside of their junior high program, right? And you were a utility player on the junior high program and as you shown, as you showed faithfulness and leadership qualities, it was a ramping escalator of what they were going to trust you with. Rich Ferreira: 06:26 I got into the team because I was willing to run their snack shop. 5 Mingo Palacios: 06:28 That's awesome. That is a great perspective. So listeners, chasing greatness or chasing a great opportunity, you're hearing two very specific cases, Rich who has been trusted with so much over the time that he has led inside of the specific areas that he was leading in, he was willing to lead the snack shop. That's not a position of, there's not a lot of honor in the snack shop. Let's just be honest. Rich Ferreira: 06:55 I mean you can only make so many, you know, chili boats and feel honorable about it. Mingo Palacios: 07:00 You can only master the craft of the chili boat so much. But to be faithful with it is what makes you stand out. And it's funny, I remember you and I used to be on like the midnight ice patrol when winter camps would roll around and you'd be like, you did this unique thing that I think is worth noting is you would make every seemingly just terrible task worth like diving all in on because what the payout was going to be, which you didn't see in the moment, was going to be that it was going to set you up to be seen as faithful and dragging somebody else along the process one, so you didn't have to do it alone in the cold and midnight. Rich Ferreira: 07:00 Exactly. Mingo Palacios: 07:41 But two, you're creating a pathway for somebody else to be seen as faithful. That was the unintended reality I think that I got the dividends from because Lord knows I would have never signed up to be on the 2:00 6 AM snow blowing shift, but because of your faithfulness just a little bit down the road, you afford me to be seen as faithful, which certainly I didn't deserve. But that's a killer key for somebody who's in a position where they've got a seemingly probably insignificant opportunity.
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