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Download a Copy of the Summary Report NATIONAL ANNUAL EXPENDITURE from the Federation’S Website The Newsletter of the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs Issue 6, 2016 In this issue: Launch of the 2016 survey Roadworthiness testing consultation AGM and conference report MMOC Charity Marathon Visit our website at www.fbhvc.co.uk The UK Member of FIVA FBHVC Insurance Scheme for member clubs... When it comes to securing the right insurance for your club, we IFC can help. Aston Scott full page ad With a product endorsed by the FBHVC and only available to member clubs, you can be confident that we have the product you need at a price that is competitive. We specialise in helping clubs and classic motor traders, so why not put us to the test? Email: Debbie Adye [email protected] or Yvonne Bates [email protected] Call us now on 01252 377546 or visit www.astonscott.com 2 FBHVCnews Issue 6, 2016 FBHVC Insurance The Newsletter of the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs Scheme Chairman: David Whale Editorial Secretary: Rosy Pugh All correspondence to the secretary for member We make no apology in this issue Practical Classics magazine and of course at the Registered Office: others in the other vehicle sectors. Three of FBHVC News for featuring a Stonewold, Berrick Salome, comprehensive report on the findings cheers therefore for the enterprising Wallingford, Oxfordshire, clubs... of the 2016 National Historic Vehicle Hagerty insurance people who spotted OX10 6JR Survey. It is quite simply the most this (I was going to say ‘niche’) but that comprehensive survey of attitudes, would be to grossly underestimate their Phone/Fax: 01865 400845 opinions and activity surrounding the numbers. A few years ago they created Email: [email protected] historic vehicle community ever, and it the Festival of the Unexceptional. At makes fascinating reading. Having seen first glance a field of Allegros, Vivas and drafts of the full 72 page report, due out suchlike would seem well described as at the end of November, I can promise you unexceptional. The remarkable aspect The Federation of British Historic When it comes to securing the that there is a whole lot more to come. of this unique show, however, is that In particular if your business is connected hundreds of people turn up to look at Vehicle Clubs exists to uphold the right insurance for your club, we to this particular sector I can predict that nicely preserved examples of the cars freedom to use historic vehicles on can help. your sales and marketing people will be they grew up with and maybe their the road. It does this by representing dissecting the data which holds many Mums took them to school in. And the the interests of owners of such other remarkable thing is that many of With a product endorsed by the valuable insights into where the market is, vehicles to politicians, government and where it is likely to go in the future. these seemingly mundane vehicles are FBHVC and only available to rare… very rare! In some cases there will officials, and legislators both in the UK and (through membership member clubs, you can be One of the characteristics of this hobby be fewer survivors than there are Ferrari of ours that has always attracted me is its GTOs. Now there’s a thought. of Fédération Internationale des confident that we have the inclusiveness. Everyone is catered for and Moreover you don’t Véhicules Anciens) in Europe. product you need at a price that everyone is welcome. The common bond have to rob a bank to There are over 500 subscriber is competitive. is a shared interest in old vehicles and own one. organisations representing a total their place in our national heritage. You membership of over 250,000 in This is the last don’t have to own an expensive exotic, addition to individual and trade We specialise in helping clubs the survey testifies to the thousands of newsletter of 2016 supporters. Details can be found and classic motor traders, so why enthusiasts who cherish and preserve and we wish all our members a very at www.fbhvc.co.uk or sent on not put us to the test? vehicles whose fate would otherwise be the scrap yard or demolition derby! happy Christmas application to the secretary. and New Year. FBHVC is a company limited by The diversity of our hobby is such that guarantee, registered number these stalwarts have a special sector of Geoff 3842316 and was founded in 1988. the media that champions their cause in Lancaster Email: Debbie Adye [email protected] Contents or 4 Legislation 10 Insurance Yvonne Bates The FBHVC consultation Aston Scott explain about PL [email protected] responses and D&O cover 6 National Historic Vehicle 11 Heritage Survey 2016 The cultural significance of our The five-yearly research results vehicles are launched 13 Club News 8 AGM and Conference Insights into the world of FBHVC Loyd Grossman talks on heritage member clubs Call us now on 01252 377546 or visit www.astonscott.com and our vehicles Lavenham Press are the preferred supplier for print to the Federation is credited. Images may be reproduced only with specific permission. of British Historic Vehicle Clubs. They have a wealth of experience All articles are available via email, for more information please contact in the field of club magazines and newsletters and can also offer [email protected] database and membership services Subscriber clubs and organisations can reproduce the text of items Cover photo: Bruce Kelsey with the Morris Minor Owners’ Club Charity from this publication in their own publications provided that FBHVC Marathon car. Issue 6, 2016 FBHVCnews 3 Legislation Bob Owen Roadworthiness Testing We really got caught out in our last Newsletter. Having We have however counselled that close attention should written our input, we correctly reported not too much be paid to accident data in case a real risk appears to be activity: but before the Newsletter got to press, the developing. Department for Transport issued two consultations on 22 September. Both related to the EU Directive on We have taken this view on the basis that the Roadworthiness testing and how it should be applied in Department’s proposals to replace the existing pre-1960 the United Kingdom. One was obviously relevant, being exemption completely, and that notwithstanding the on the implications for vehicles of historic interest. The continuation of voluntary testing, the actual testing second appeared primarily to relate to fast tractors, but procedures and the training of MoT testers will render it actually contained some significant changes to the MoT. ever more difficult to find a wide geographical spread of MoT test stations that are able to apply the test with the So when the Newsletter dropped through your letterboxes level of sensitivity and recognition of standards at the it was totally out of date. By the time the Newsletter time of build that will prevent wrongful MoT failures and arrived the Federation was already working to put possible damage, particularly to older vehicles. together a reasoned response to everything in the Consultations. 2. The Federation has objected strongly both to the creation of a new class of ‘Vehicles of Historic Interest’ The Department offered a number of options as to how (VHIs) and to the proposed application of the 8 point they would proceed, but it is clear they wish to exempt rule. We have pointed out the risks of eliminating vehicles of historic interest more than 40 years old from vehicles which are clearly recognised as being historic by a compulsory MoT, though owners will remain free to the application of an insensitive technical rule. We are put their vehicles through a voluntary test. But it is not concerned that, in the future, we will be divided into all historic vehicles, as we have regarded them in the ‘sheep’ and ‘goats’ on the basis of criteria which we could past. The Department wishes to confine the exemption to not have imagined in advance. We have done this in the those vehicles which could pass a test of being of ‘historic knowledge that at least two other countries in the EU interest’, which, in line with the definition in the Directive, have chosen to argue that it is not practical to apply any excludes vehicles which have been ‘substantially modified’. formal technical qualification to all their historic vehicles. The Department is proposing that this test should conform 3. We objected to the assumption in the Consultation that to the current ‘8 point rule’ applied by DVLA to decide in some way those whose vehicles have been modified whether to grant registrations to Reconstructed Classics. look after them less well than the owners of totally original vehicles. There are other details in the Consultation, including the possibility of there being a mileage limit on eligible 4. The Federation has disagreed with the concept of vehicles. They also floated the possibility of extending the mileage limits which would either be too constraining on exemption to 30 year old vehicles. the majority of historic vehicles or else affect only those who use their vehicles for such things as historic rallies, Both the consultations and our responses to them are on who can be assumed to be among those who maintain the website. their vehicles best. In the required timescale there was no chance of 5. We have pointed out that PSVs and goods vehicles, if consulting all of our members and so we chose to ask a used commercially, are subject to an inspection regime number of member organisations who we thought would which should render their being excluded from an MoT provide a wide range of views on the historic vehicles exemption unnecessary.
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