Re: Attn Lisa Havilah - Double 32 Class Steam Engine Tour
From: Lisa Havllah [email protected]> To: John Healey
Dear John, Thank you for your email. Let me look into this or you. I will get bath to you in the coming week. Kind Regards, Lisa
Lisa Havilah Chief Executive T 92170363 M 0400 395 026 of the land and gives respect to the Elders— past and present —and MAAS acknowledges Australia's First Nations Peoples as the Traditional Owners and Custodians through them to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
From: John Healey
Dear Lisa, Society and you regarding the MAAS steam locomotive 3265. I would like to open up a dialogue between the Board of the Lachlan Valley Railway preserving and presenting the railway heritage of NSW. Today the LVR Lachlan Valley Railway is a not-for-profit heritage rail operator involved in collecting, from steam, diesel and vintage rail motors right across regional NSW. operates a wide range of rail journeys featuring much-loved NSW historical trains ranging overhaul. froth 3265 and 3237 were built to the same design The Lachlan Valley Railway is about to relaunch its own 32 class locomotive, 3237 after a considerable the 1890s/1900s to work express passenger trains throughout NSW. They were by Beyer Peacock in England for the New South Wales Government Railways in the 1960's and early 70's. highly successful and long-lived locomotives, serving throughout the state into Wagga Wagga, to regional locations in the North and South of New South Wales including Albury, During 2013/14,the LVR partnered with MAAS to showcase 3265 and Taree, was showcased at were the 100-year railway anniversaries at both Coffs Harbour Goulburn, Grafton, Coffs Harbour and Taree. Some of the events 3265 young these events, 3265 was exposed to thousands of onlookers and passengers (both the Junee Rhythm N' Rail Festival and Albury Steam Weekend. Throughout social media. and old) and the locomotive was featured on local TV, radio, press and We seek your the terms of which I understand currently prohibit hire to 3rd party operators. 3265 is currently under a management agreement with THNSW, partnership now, when the LVR has had access to 3265 in the past. And secondly, to guide a assistance firstly, to understand why this term has been put in place public. For we believe would be a high profile event for the sector and the traveling between the LVR, MAAS, and THNSW to bring 3265 and 3237 together for what to run such an operation under the LVR's accreditation. a number of operational and maintenance reasons it would be preferable side town -hauled passenger train between Sydney and the South Coast beach proposes to bring both 3265 and 3237 together to run a double-headed, steam LVR 10th August 2019. Double-headed steam locomotives running anywhere these A potential date which would work in the LVR's plan this year is Saturday of mama. it is unusual to have two 32 class serviceable at the same time. As far as we days is a rare event. Two 32 class operating a day trip together is even rarer because in 1977. can ascertain, the last time double 32 class hauled a trip to Kiama was THNSW, Rail Motor proposal. The LVR often collaborates with other heritage operators including THNSW management and maintenance staff are supportive of this will not be possible Due to the current lease arrangement between MAAS and THNSW it Society Paterson, 3801 Limited and in the past Canberra Railway Museum. lease. to use 3265 on an LVR train without the support of MAAS to vary the in the past. proposed tour and establish an ongoing relationship, such as we have enjoyed LVR seeks to open a conversation about use of 3265 for the above 3rd party hire of the operator, and there is no dispute that should be THNSW. However, Ultimately the maintenance responsibility should rightly rest with one asset should be easily achievable. in such an event. We would MAAS as there would be considerable media and rail heritage interest A tour of this nature represents good press and exposure for a suitable headboard 3265 lead out of Sydney (which is the prestigious leg of the trip!) with also propose that each of the locos lead on one leg of the trip and that on the front of the locomotive advertising MAAS.
We look forward to your response.
Yours sincerely,
John Healey Secretarvireasurer Lachlan Valley Railway Society Co-op Ltd 3 Campbell Street Coma NSW 2754 T 07 4347 4999 I F 02 6351 3559 I M 9414 448 870 www Ivr then au
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NSW.001.025.0105 RE: Attn Lisa Havilah - Double 32 Class Steam Engine Tour
From: Andrew Moritz eandrew.mort©thnew.com.au> To: John Healey lohn©Ivccom.au> Cc: Fred Sawyer
John
Thanks for your email. Apologies I have not been able to respond before now.
As previously Indicated THNSW is happy to consider and work up a detailed proposal for a 32 double header with LVR and Men take It to MAAS. Given operating standards have changed since 1977 there would need to be a discussion with TiNSW / ASA regarding the feasibility and the 70C waiver requirements to double head the two 32's. You may have already had some discussions vrith them but my team are doubtful we could get this across the line (based on other discussions they are having). I.e. this needs further exploration and discussion with the relevant authorities to determine if its even feasible. From our perspective we'd want to further discuss and resolve who is crewing the locomotive and under who's ONRSR accreditation it operates.
Depending on the answers to these and any other questions we identify it may not require any variation to the agreement between MAAS and THNSW.
Also, FYI for the date proposed, 10 August 2019, we have already committed 3265 to a weekend of operations here in Sydney (or Rail Safety Week.
Suggest to explore this further we get the relevant people from our two organisations together for a discussion. From my end that would be John lborogood. Fred Sawyer, David Bennett, Ben Elliot and myself. Let me know if you are happy to catch up and we can find a suitable time.
Regards
Andrew
From: John Healey
Dear Lisa, the MAAS steam locomotive 3265. I would like to open up a dialogue between the Board of the Lachlan Valley Railway Society and you regarding the railway heritage of NSW. Today the LVR Lachlan Valley Railway is a not-for-profit heritage rail operator involved in collecting, preserving and presenting and vintage rail motors right across regional NSW. operates a wide range of rail journeys featuring much-loved NSW historical trains ranging from steam, diesel overhaul. Both 3265 and 3237 were built to the same design The Lachlan Valley Railway is about to relaunch its own 32 class locomotive, 3237 after a considerable to work express passenger trains throughout NSW. They were by Beyer Peacock in England for the New South Wales Government Railways in the 1890s/1900s 70's. highly successful and long-lived locomotives, serving throughout the state into the 1960's and early of New South Wales including Albury, Wagga Wagga, During 2013/14,the LVR partnered with MAAS to showcase 3265 to regional locations in the North and South the 100-year railway anniversaries at both Coffs Harbour and Taree, Goulburn, Grafton, Coffs Harbour and Taree. Some of the events 3265 was showcased at were was exposed to thousands of onlookers and passengers (both young the twee Rhythm N' Rail Festival and Albury Steam Weekend. Throughout these events, 3265 and old) and the locomotive was featured on local TV, radio, press and social media. • understand currently prohibit hire to 3rd party operators. We seek your 3265 is currently under a management agreement with THNSW, the terms of which I access to 3265 in the past. And secondly, to guide a partnership assistance firstly, to understand why this term has been put in place now, when the LVR has had would be a high profile event for the sector and the traveling public For between the LVR, MAAS, and THNSW to bring 3265 and 3237 together for what we believe such an operation under the LVR's accreditation. a number of operational and maintenance reasons it would be preferable to run -hauled passenger train between Sydney and the South Coast beach side town LW proposes to bring both 3265 and 3237 together to run a double-headed, steam 10th August 2019. Double-headed steam locomotives running anywhere these of Kiama. A potential date which would work in the LVR's plan this year is Saturday it is unusual to have two 32 class serviceable at the same time. As far as we days is a rare event. Two 32 class operating a day trip together is even rarer because can ascertain, the last time double 32 class hauled a trip to Kiama was in 1977. collaborates with other heritage operators including THNSW, Rail Motor THNSW management and maintenance staff are supportive of this proposal. The LVR often to the current lease arrangement between MAAS and THNSW it will not be possible Society Paterson, 3801 Limited and in the past Canberra Railway Museum. Due to use 3265 on an LVR train without the support of MAAS to vary the lease. establish an ongoing relationship, such as we have enjoyed in the past. seeks to open a conversation about use of 3265 for the above proposed tour and LVR no dispute that should be THNSW. However, 3rd party hire of the Ultimately the maintenance responsibility should rightly rest with one operator, and there is asset should be easily achievable. be considerable media and rail heritage interest in such an event. We would A tour of this nature represents good press and exposure for MAAS as there would out of Sydney (which is the prestigious leg of the trip!) with a suitable headboard also propose that each of the lows lead on one leg of the trip and that 3265 lead on the front of the locomotive advertising MAAS.
We look forward to your response.
Yours sincerely,
John Healey Secretary Treasurer Lachlan Valley Railway Society Co-op Ltd 3 Campbell Street Cowra NSW 2794 T 02 6342 4999 I F 02 6341 3559 I H 2111 448 070 WWW ha—00111 au
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3265 at the Albury Steam Weekend - 2014
3265 during the Taree Rail Centenary - 2013
NSW.001.025.0108 RE: Attn Lisa Havilah - Double 32 Class Steam Engine Tour
From: Andrew Moat
Jute
Ahead of Monday's discussion about this 1 was just looking at the Agreement again I think the relevant clause/s are:
3.7 Not provide to a third party THNSW will not put either Locomotive into the possession or Accreditation of a third party without the prior written approval of MAAS. I.e. we can do it but need your approval to do so.
Clause 8 deals with Railway Operations And generally says THNSW and THNSW alone determines railway operations.
On a simple level the reason for all of this Is to maintain clarity around responsibilities end accountabilities for safety, maintenance and operation which Is required by ONRSR, Office of the National Rat Safety Regulator.
All of that been saki we are happy to work with LVR and do regularly - the THExpo on the June long weekend is a case in point where they are operating Railmotors over the long weekend. The idea of a double header (two locos together) is also a good one and will absolutely delight the railway enthusiast fan base. As indicated I had asked LVR to discuss their proposal with us first and subject to us understanding and support it we would raise It with you.
Not sure exactly how you did this previously with LVR - Ralph may know. I suspect you might have actually had your crew present on the footplate- i.e. operating the.loco i.e. wet hire We could potential do the same i.e. our crew operating.
Happy to discuss all of the above further on Monday.
Regards
Andrew
From: Jute Banks
Thanks Andrew,
Looking forward to seeing you on Monday,
Best Julie
Julie Banks Head of Collections & Major Projects Museum of Applied Arts & Sciences MA 500 Harris Street, Ultimo, Sydney, NSW 2007 Australia T +61 2 92170453 M 0411 269 922 W maas.museum
MAAS acknowledges Australia's First Nations Peoples as the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the land and gives respect to the Elders - past and present - and through them to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
From: Andrew Moritz
Julie discuss ith you. Heads up. I had asked LVR to discuss their proposal with us first and then if we supported it we'd
Happy to discuss at our meeting next week with Peter.
Regards
Andrew
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NSW.001.025.0100 Dear Lisa,
I would like to open up a dialogue between the Board of the Lachlan Valley Railway Society and you regarding the MAAS steam locomotive 3265.
Lachlan Valley Railway is a not-for-profit heritage rail operator involved in collecting, preserving and presenting the railway heritage of NSW. Today the LVR operates a wide range of rail journeys featuring much-loved NSW historical trains ranging from steam, diesel and vintage rail motors right across regional NSW.
The Lachlan Valley Railway is about to relaunch its own 32 class locomotive, 3237 after a considerable overhaul. Both 3265 and 3237 were built to the same design by Beyer Peacock in England for the New South Wales Government Railways in the 1890s/1900s to work express passenger trains throughout NSW. They were highly successful and long-lived locomotives, serving throughout the state into the 1960's and early 70's.
During 2013/14,the LVR partnered with MAAS to showcase 3265 to regional locations in the North and South of New South Wales including Albury, Wagga Wagga, Goulh urn, Grafton, Coffs Harbour and Taree.Some of the events 3265 was showcased at were the 100-year railway anniversaries at both Coffs Harbour and Taree, the Junee Rhythm N' Rail Festival and Albury Steam Weekend. Throughout these events, 3265 was exposed to thousands of onlookers and passengers (both young and old) and the locomotive was featured on local TV, radio, press and social media.
3265 is currently under a management agreement with THNSW, the terms of which I understand currently prohibit hire to 3rd party operators. We seek your assistance firstly, to understand why this term has been put in place now, when the LVR has had access to 3265 in the past. And secondly, to guide a partnership between the LVR, MAAS, and THNSW to bring 3265 and 3237 together for what we believe would be a high profile event for the sector and the traveling public. For a number of operational and maintenance reasons it would be preferable to run such an operation under the LVR's accreditation.
LVR proposes to bring both 3265 and 3237 together to run a double-headed, steam-hauled passenger train between Sydney and the South Coast beach side town of Plana. A potential date which would work in the LVR's plan this year is Saturday 10th August 2019. Double-headed steam locomotives running anywhere these days is a rare event. Two 32 class operating a day trip together is even rarer because It is unusual to have two 32 class serviceable at the same time. As far as we can ascertain, the last time double 32 class hauled a trip to Kiama was in 1977.
THNSW management and maintenance staff are supportive of this proposal. The LVR often collaborates with other heritage operators including THNSW, Rail Motor Society Paterson, 3801 Limited and in the past Canberra Railway Museum. Due to the current lease arrangement between MAAS and THNSW it will not be possible to use 3265 on an LVR train without the support of MAAS to vary the lease.
LVR seeks to open a conversation about use of 3265 for the above proposed tour and establish an ongoing relationship, such as we have enjoyed in the past. Ultimately the maintenance responsibility should rightly rest with one operator, and there is no dispute that should be THNSW. However, 3rd party hire of the asset should be easily achievable.
A tour of this nature represents good press and exposure for MAAS as there would be considerable media and rail heritage interest in such an event. We would also propose that each of the locos lead on one leg of the trip and that 3265 lead out of Sydney (which is the prestigious leg of the trip!) with a suitable headboard on the front of the locomotive advertising MAAS.
We look forward to your response. yours sincerely,
John Healey Secretary Treasurer Lachlan Valley Railway Society Co-op Ltd 3 Campbd1 Street Covica NSW 7794 T 0. 6342 4999 I F 02 6341 3599 M 0414 4118 670 www Ivr cam au
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3265 at the Albury Steam Weekend - 2014
NSW.001.025.0101 Preliminary discussions with our preferred rail transport contractor have confirmed thatthe PO Courtyard exit is the preferred option. All objects will fit within his currenttravel permitsfor height, width and weight with the onlytravel restriction beingthatthey must be moved outside of normal hours.
Objects
90/816 Helicopter, full-size, Bell 2068 letranger111VH-DIK
The helicopter is a Category A object and was installed in 1990, it was removed from display in 2013 and loaned to Kings School Parramatta for 2 years before being reinstalled in 2016. Initial installation and the 2013 removal were undertaken through the Harris street doors and the reinstallation in 2016 was through the PO courtyard.
Removal of the helicopterfrom display requires the following steps
• Undertake risk assessment and SWMS • Lowerto ground using rigging contractor and electric hoist • Undertake Conservation condition check • Fit transportwheelstoskids • Remove lead ballast from cabin • Remove two main rotor blades • Remove vertical tail fin • Wheel totruck loading point • Load ontotilt tray and secure • Transport
Experience hasshown removal and loadingfortransport can be accomplished in 1 working dayfor 2 MAAS staff, 2 rigging contractors and a transport vehicle. Nospecial permits are required fortransport.
Lawrence Hargrove replica kites 90/128, 90/129, 90/130, 90/131 and 90/132.
The 4 kites and seat are replica kites constructed by a MAASemployee in 1987 and are C category objects.
Removal of the kites from display requiresthe following steps
• Undertake risk assessment and SWMS • Lowerto ground using rigging contractor • Undertake Conservation condition check • Dismantle each kite into individual components • Pack fortransport • Transport
Once the kites are onthe ground, they become medium size objects and can be transported using normal museum equipment and vehicles.
NSW.001.025.0332 Scope of works for proposed movement of VLO's in the West building.
Purpose
The purpose of this document is to set out the steps required to remove the No. 1 Loco, tenderand carriages, Dick Smith helicopterand replica Hargraves box kites from the Wran building in 2020. This papersets out the steps requiredto remove each group of objects and any special requirements that will need furtherinvestigation including risk assessment, consultancy contractors and possible destinations forthe objects.
Photography
It is recommended that the removal of each of the VLO's be documented both by time-lapseand still photographyforfuture reference. Many of the VLO's were installed in the 1980's and there is very little or no remaining evidence of how they were originally installed. Thorough photo documentation of their dismantle and transportwill help inform future possible installations and transport.
Exit routes
There are three possi ble exit routes forvery large objects (VLO'S)from the West building. All VLO'S were installed into the building in 1988 through a large set of glass door on the Harris Streetfagade of the touring hall. These doors ae still in use but a tree has been planted onthe footpath that is now blocking the access to these doors. Approaches to Sydney City Council overthe last 20 years to have this tree removed have met with opposition from the council.
The three possible routes are:
• Exitthrough main glass entry doors onto forecourtthen crane objects from courtyard to waiting trucks on Harris Street. This route will involve complete closure of Harris Street while loading of the 5 objects takes place • Exitthrough double glass doors onto Harris street where the objects are then craned onto waitingtrucks. This route will involve construction of a temporary rail from the building onto Harris Street and complete closure of Harris Street while loading of the 5 objects takes place • Exit through touring hall,then UTS collaborative space to PO courtyard where objects are then craned onto waiting trucks. All loadingtakes place within MAAS premises and will only involve traffic control for entry and exit of trucks.
Option 3 is the preferred method as it causes the least disruption to publicaccess but is predicated on Step into Paradise being closed and UTS being on vacation allowing us access through the collaborative space.
No matterwhich route is used, engineering advice needs to besought to determine if the currentfloor slabs are in a condition that can supportthe objects that will be moved overthem. In some cases, the floor may need propping from below to temporari ly supportthe weight of the objects.
NSW.001.025.0331 No. 1 Loco and carriages: 7949, 81613, 82237, 81664 81614
Of the train consist, No.1 Loco is a category A objectwith the tenderand three carriages all being category B.
Estimated weight of the Loco is 40 tonnes and engineering advice will need to be sought to confirm the floors in the planned exit route are in suitable condition and can supportthe weightto supportthe object and associated moving equipment.
The 5 objects were originally installed through the Harris Street doors in the following method
• Craned from truck on Harris street to temporary fixed track and pushed through door into West building (now Touring Hall) • Transferred totemporary mobile track on hovercraft and skated through touring hall toalign with fixed display track in atrium. • Transferred from temporary trackto fixed displaytrack.
The preferred exit route is through the PO courtyard as detailed above.
Alternativedisplay/storage venue(s) need to be found as there is currently no space available at MDC for these objects until J store is completed in mid 2022.
All 5 objects fall within the current width and height restrictions fortransport by road and do not require any special permits otherthan transport needs to be undertaken afternormal hours (night movements).
Preliminary work will involve the following
• Engineering consultantto confirm floor loadings forexit routes • Consultation with specialised rail transporting consultant • Consultation with crane company if it is required to lift the objects onto the truckfor transport • Possible road closure of Harris Street if preferred exit route is not available • Consultation to investigate best method for movement of the objects through the space from display position to loading position. • Construction of temporarytracks for movement of the objects through the space on ce the above method is ascertained.
Removal of No.1 loco (7949) from display requires the following steps
• Undertake risk assessment and SWMS • Undertake Conservation condition check • Removal of side rods, piston rods and valve rods • Removal of funnel, steam dome and safety dome • Greasing and lubrication of all wheel bearings • Transferto temporary track or skates • Move from display location to loading location • Load onto specialised transporter
NSW.001.025.0333 Removal of Tender (31613) and Carriages (B2237, B1664 81614)
• Undertake risk assessment and SWMS • Undertake Conservation condition check • Remove objects and props from tender and carriages • Greasing and lubrication of all wheel bearings. • Transferto temporary track or skates • Move from display location to loading location • Load onto specialised transporter
NSW.001.025.0334 From RASP/ CLP
Access factors at the new Museum There are a number of factors surrounding access at Parramatta which could impactthe cost of relocatingthe collection from Ultimo and some of these are:
• Tractor Trailers will need space to reverse in to the loading docks and will require space to turnaround in. The length of tractor trailers may also extend with trailer lengths going out to 60ft in the future to accommodate largersea freight containers • The loading docks will need to be able to accommodate up to fourcontainers at any one time with space for other contractors such as providores to deliver simultaneously • The loading dockwill need to have clear height (with no protrudingsprinkler heads or piping below that height clearance) to accommodate truck heights of 4.5m but preferably 5.0m • A gantry rail would be beneficialto run from the loading dock through the corridors to the exhibition space to move heavy or over-sized objects • Low Loaders will need access and sufficient loading limits to be able to transport over-size and overweight objects to/from the Museum, and height availability will be required to enable cranes to lift these objects off the trailers and transportthem into the exhibition space • Street access surroundingthe Museum will be i mportant —street widths will need to provide access forwide loads when cars are parked at the kerb. Turning circles will need to accommodate long length low loaders forthe movement of over-size objects, power & communications cables in the approach areas should all be underground, and services (power, water, communications and sewer) should all be at sufficient depth underground so as to not impact the access of heavy loads • The loadingdock and all access corridors should be wide and allow sufficient space to move the biggest objects envisaged to need togo into the New Museum • Any Goods lifts should likewise be able to carry very large and heavy objects • Floor loading limits of the New Museum will need to be able to handle cranes forthe lifting of the largest and heaviest objects proposed forthe galleries to avoid the need forfuture under- pinning of floors • The DA will need to considerthe impactof Museum operations on surrounding residential developments —as quiet enjoyment hours will be impeded by the need to transport over-size and large volumes of cargo to &from the site during the quiet traffic hours — night times and very early morning Substantial redevelopment is planned forthe area and some of this may conflict with access e.g.: Light Rail, otherconstruction, other infrastructure • Bridges in the surrounding area will need to be able to handle the weights of loaded tractor trailers and low loaders tothe extent everto be envisaged forthe New Museum
NSW.001.025.0337
FW: Loan of Tram Hearse to Newcastle Museum
From: Margaret Simpson
Hi Jacqui On Friday 9 August 2019, Julie Baird, Director of the Newcastle Museum, phoned me asking if the tram hearse might be available for a loan. The tram hearse is currently in storage at the MDC. I indicated to her that the tram hearse would be an ideal object for them to request as it operated in Newcastle. I gave Julie our CEO's details and suggested she write requesting the loan as is our usual practice. I then sent the attached email to various staff members alerting them of this impending loan request. I have heard no more from Julie Baird. Best wishes Margaret Margaret Simpson Curator Curatorial T 92170423 MAAS acknowledges Australia's First Nations Peoples as the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the land and gives respect to the Elders — past and present— and through them to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
NSW.001.025.0127
Loan of Tram Hearse to Newcastle Museum
From: Margaret Simpson
Hi Carey and Angelique Just a heads up that Julie Baird from the Newcastle Museum would like to begin negotiations to borrow our tram hearse, coffin and wreath. It originally operated at Newcastle. httos://collection.maas.museum/object/207267 Best wishes Margaret
Margaret Simpson Curator Curatorial T 92170423 MAAS acknowledges Australia's First Nations Peoples as the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the land and gives respect to the Elders — past and present— and through them to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
NSW.001.025.0126