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Thursday Volume 523 17 February 2011 No. 121 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Thursday 17 February 2011 £5·00 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2011 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Parliamentary Click-Use Licence, available online through the Office of Public Sector Information website at www.opsi.gov.uk/click-use/ Enquiries to the Office of Public Sector Information, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU; e-mail: [email protected] 1113 17 FEBRUARY 2011 1114 Mr Hayes: I do indeed congratulate them, and I House of Commons congratulate my hon. Friend on drawing the matter to the House’s attention. I did a little research: the Thursday 17 February 2011 event was attended by 51 employers and resulted in 29 apprenticeship pledges just on the day. My goodness, we are reminded of Virgil: “They can because they The House met at half-past Ten o’clock think they can.” PRAYERS Mary Macleod: I recently visited Brentford football club community sports trust as part of apprenticeship [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] week and have also written to more than 600 businesses to encourage them to take up apprenticeship places and take on more apprentices. What other advice would my hon. Friend give businesses to encourage them to provide Oral Answers to Questions more apprenticeships? Mr Hayes: Businesses need to know that they will BUSINESS, INNOVATION AND SKILLS recoup their investment rapidly, with even the most expensive apprenticeships paying back in less than three years. Apprenticeships have a real link to productivity The Secretary of State was asked— and to competitiveness. May I just say that Brentford Apprenticeships football club had a very good result on Saturday, when they drew with Milton Keynes Dons? 1. Alok Sharma (Reading West) (Con): How many apprenticeship starts there have been in the academic Stephen Mosley: Chester FC was also successful last year 2010-11 to date. [41342] Saturday, winning 5-0; I was fortunate enough to be there. It is a community-run and owned football club, 6. Mary Macleod (Brentford and Isleworth) (Con): which recently launched an apprenticeship scheme How many apprenticeship starts there have been in the employing 21 16-year-olds on sports management courses. academic year 2010-11 to date. [41347] What is the Minister doing to encourage other big 8. Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con): how society organisations to get involved with apprenticeships? many apprenticeship starts there have been in the academic year 2010-11 to date. [41349] Mr Hayes: We are involved in an unprecedented campaign to promote the value of apprenticeships. Last 11. Mr David Evennett (Bexleyheath and Crayford) week—apprenticeship week—450 events were held (Con): How many apprenticeship starts there have been throughout the country. I met learners, employers and in the academic year 2010-11 to date. [41352] providers. Apprenticeships are top of the agenda for all those groups. 12. Rehman Chishti (Gillingham and Rainham) (Con): How many apprenticeship starts there have been in the academic year 2010-11 to date. [41353] Mr Evennett: Last Friday, I visited the Just Learning day nursery in my constituency to see at first hand the 17. Stephen Lloyd (Eastbourne) (LD): How many benefits of apprenticeships for young people and employers. apprenticeship starts there have been in the academic I was pleased to meet apprentice Jade Vale and manager year 2010-11 to date. [41358] Tracey Tomlinson, who were very positive about the apprenticeship scheme. What steps are the Government The Minister for Further Education, Skills and Lifelong taking to ensure that people can progress to the higher Learning (Mr John Hayes): All our Christmases have level of apprenticeships to meet the needs of employers? come together. Provisional data show that there were 119,800 Mr Hayes: My hon. Friend is right. The previous apprenticeship starts in the first quarter of the 2010-11 Government’s Leitch report made it absolutely clear academic year. That good news confirms that employers that we need to boost intermediate and higher level are recognising the value of apprenticeships to building skills as our economy becomes more advanced. I am growth and competitiveness. The Government are working with the sector skills councils and the UK committed to increasing the budget for apprenticeships Commission for Employment and Skills to develop to over £1.4 billion in the 2011-12 financial year. more high-level frameworks. The numbers doubled in Alok Sharma: As part of the recent apprenticeships the past year, but we must do more. Apprenticeships are week, the National Apprenticeship Service launched a critical to the nation’s growth and prosperity. 100-day campaign in Reading. By the end of the first day alone, 28 pledges of places and a further 19 expressions Rehman Chishti: I recently visited the Medway youth of interest had been received from local employers. Will club, a local charity in my constituency, which helps the Minister join me in congratulating Reading’s employers, young people get into work and into apprenticeships, Reading borough council, the Reading Post and other and it very much welcomes the Government’s apprenticeship local organisations on supporting that excellent initiative scheme. However, it would like to see more assistance and demonstrating what can be achieved when business being given to small businesses, and guidance for setting and Government work together? up apprenticeships. 1115 Oral Answers17 FEBRUARY 2011 Oral Answers 1116 Mr Hayes: It is a little known fact, but none the less and Albert museum and other cultural organisations in one that I want to draw to the House’s attention, that London. Thirty-four young people are on that programme, 78% of apprentices are employed in small businesses, but it is funded by the future jobs fund, so it is about to which are the backbone of our economy. I started in a run out. I invited those young people to come to the small business, which got bigger as a result, and small House to tell Members of Parliament what they have businesses are essential if we are to make apprenticeships learned from this programme and how they have sing. encouraged other young people to start careers in the cultural industries. Will the Minister come and listen to Stephen Lloyd: Last Friday, I spoke to several employers what they have to say about the difference that the in Eastbourne, and their view was that a grant to the future jobs fund has made to them? providers of apprenticeships would act as a huge incentive and make a huge difference to take-up and completion. Mr Hayes: As you know, Mr Speaker, the future jobs Although I appreciate that tough current fiscal conditions fund is not within my ministerial purview—[HON.MEMBERS: mean that any money has be found elsewhere, does the “Ah!”] Well, never pitch above your pay grade or outside Minister agree that, for small employers in my constituency your purview. I will of course meet the young people and throughout the country, a small cash incentive for and the hon. Lady and listen to what they have to say. small and medium-sized enterprises will lead to a dramatic rise in the take-up of apprenticeships? Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op): I have just returned from a fact-finding mission to Dusseldorf Mr Hayes: We are committing substantial funds to and Berlin with the Welsh Affairs Committee. Is the apprenticeships and, indeed, those funds will be targeted Minister aware that all German businesses are required at the firms that most need support to take on apprentices to join a local chamber of commerce and the regional and build their skills. My hon. Friend is right to say that chamber of commerce, and that those organisations are these are tough times, but we are always open to proposals required to provide comprehensive apprenticeships, tailored made by this House and representative bodies of the to the industrial needs of that region? Will he consider kind that he describes. that approach so that we have apprenticeships that are comprehensive and grounded in the real business earth Mr Pat McFadden (Wolverhampton South East) (Lab): of this country? I am sure that the House will welcome the emphasis on apprenticeships, which shows the Government carrying Mr Hayes: We can learn a lot from the example of on the work that we did. However, does the Minister other countries. Germany is often held up as a shining not think it is shocking that, in figures given to me this example of apprenticeships, and France has also made morning by his colleague the Secretary of State, the immense progress with apprenticeships over the last Government have confirmed the true picture that there quarter of a century. I hear what the hon. Gentleman will be 529,000 fewer adult learners being funded by the says about the link to local businesses and chambers of Government in two years’ time? Does not that show commerce and, as ever, he makes a thoughtful contribution that the emphasis on apprenticeships is being paid for to our affairs. I will certainly take another look at the by cutting opportunity elsewhere? How does that prepare issue to see what can be done to borrow that kind of people for today’s labour market? good practice. Mr Hayes: The right hon. Gentleman speaks of Mr John Denham (Southampton, Itchen) (Lab): opportunity, but it was Baroness Thatcher who said Yesterday, I met a number of apprentices at the excellent that if your only opportunity is to be equal, you have no Fosters bakery in Barnsley, and we welcome any moves opportunity. What he and his colleagues left us with to build on Labour’s record, which rescued apprenticeships was a dull, egalitarian mediocrity.