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Thursday Volume 634 18 January 2018 No. 81 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Thursday 18 January 2018 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2018 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 1031 18 JANUARY 2018 1032 reflects upon the consultation that is taking place, or House of Commons whether the consultation will be taking place in any event? Thursday 18 January 2018 Jesse Norman: The consultation will be taking place in any event, and the details will be announced shortly. I The House met at half-past Nine o’clock greatly enjoyed my visit to see the Our Bus group, which is a model of good practice in local community transport. PRAYERS Richard Burden (Birmingham, Northfield) (Lab): I welcome the Minister to his appointment. While I [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] understand that the Government have said that they are not going to end the sections 19 and 22 arrangements, the letter they sent out in July last year has caused what Oral Answers to Questions the Select Committee on Transport has described as paralysis in the not-for-profit sector. Do we not now need clarity from the Government about what they intend to do, so that they can demonstrate real support TRANSPORT for the community transport sector, including for firms such as Shencare in my constituency? The Secretary of State was asked— Jesse Norman: I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman Community Transport: Licensing for welcoming me to my job. I have actually been in it for a while, so I am sorry not to have made more impact 1. Neil Gray (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP): What progress on him, if not on the sector. In that regard, he will have he has made on his proposals to change the licensing of seen—I am sure he has noted it carefully—the testimony community transport. [903363] that I and one of my officials gave to the Transport Committee, which put to rest the question of whether The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport the letter was inappropriate or had caused difficulty. (Jesse Norman): In the first Transport questions since There certainly has been concern, and rightly so: it is a the beginning of the year, the Year of Engineering, I reinterpretation of the law. Some people may not be would like to put on record my thanks to my right hon. compliant, that is true, but the vast majority will be, and Friend the Member for South Holland and The Deepings we expect the consultation to be successful in further (Mr Hayes) and my hon. Friend the Member for Blackpool allaying concerns. North and Cleveleys (Paul Maynard) for all the work that they have done. Norman Lamb (North Norfolk) (LD): North Norfolk The Government want to protect as many community Community Transport says that at the moment it is transport services as possible. We will soon be consulting unable to get new section 19 permits because it has bid on the issuance and use of permits, and have been for some of its services competitively, but those services working to interpret the scope of the exemptions to the are cross-subsidising vital community services and it is regulations as widely as the law will allow. doing exactly what the county council urged it to do. These vital services could go under unless that uncertainty Neil Gray: I thank the Minister for his answer. He ends, so can the Minister give some reassurance urgently? will be aware that the proposal is estimated to cost the industry £37 million and each driver £1,500. It rather Jesse Norman: The traffic commissioners are acting seems like the Government have taken a sledgehammer speedily and effectively and as a unified group on this to crack a nut. What does the Minister say to Shotts’ issue.I expect the consultation to continue to give—through Getting Better Together in my constituency,which provides the proposed exemptions and workarounds that we essential community transport services, yet has no interest have been looking at—further comfort to the sector. in being a commercial entity and could be lost to the community under these plans? Rail Improvements: Devon and the South-west Jesse Norman: I do not recognise the description that the hon. Gentleman gives. I have been up and down the 2. Neil Parish (Tiverton and Honiton) (Con): What country talking to community transport schemes. It is progress he has made on rail improvements in Devon not at all clear that the implication for local community and the south-west. [903364] transport operators will be anything like as severe as has been suggested, and the one case that has been The Minister of State, Department for Transport (Joseph tested has been referred back for further evidence gathering. Johnson): We are investing more than £400 million in the rail network in the south-west. This includes a fleet Robert Courts (Witney) (Con): I am grateful to the of brand-new trains for services to Devon and Cornwall, Minister for recently visiting my constituency, where he which will enter service later this year, transforming saw the great work being done by Our Bus Bartons. He journeys for passengers. We are continuing to work with will know that such companies all over the country are Network Rail and the Peninsula Rail Task Force to urgently seeking reassurance, but can he clarify whether explore the potential for longer-term improvements in any action proposed by the transport commissioner the south-west. 1033 Oral Answers 18 JANUARY 2018 Oral Answers 1034 Neil Parish: I welcome the Minister to his new job. The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport The Waterloo to Exeter line serves Axminster and Honiton (Ms Nusrat Ghani): The Government are committed to and the southern part of my constituency. It is a great improving station access for disabled people, including rail line and it needs a second loop in order to get more those with hidden disabilities. Further funding for the trains into Exeter and then back up to London. Could Access for All programme will be made available in the the Minister give me details of what is happening with next rail control period, and we are introducing new that? accessibility commitments as part of franchises.In addition, whenever the industry carries out infrastructure work at Joseph Johnson: The Devon Metro proposals for stations, it must meet current accessibility standards. I enhanced rail services in the Exeter area include aspirations must say “thank you” to my hon. Friend the Member for additional local services between Axminster and for Blackpool North and Cleveleys (Paul Maynard), Exeter. This is being progressed as a local scheme by who did a huge amount of work on accessibility across Devon County Council, and we will continue to provide all transport modes. assistance as it develops its proposals. Dr Cameron: As chair of the all-party parliamentary Luke Pollard (Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport) (Lab/ group on disability, I have been hearing accounts from Co-op): I welcome the Minister to his new position. The people throughout the United Kingdom about a lack of new Minister will be aware that the Government missed access to both underground and railway stations, which the Christmas deadline for funding the three-minute contributes to isolation and social exclusion and also speed reduction between Plymouth and Exeter. At just impedes their ability to get back to work—and getting £600,000, why did the Government knock back the people back to work is one of the Government’s key south-west? tasks. Would the Minister kindly agree to discuss with the all-party group the progress that can be made if we Joseph Johnson: I can assure that hon. Gentleman work together on the issue? that that is not the case. We are continuing to look closely at the issue, and we are working on it in the Ms Ghani: I am aware of the hon. Lady’s work on the Department and with Network Rail. APPG. As she will know, I was chair of the all-party parliamentary group on eye health and visual impairment, Kevin Foster (Torbay) (Con): I welcome my hon. and we did a lot of work together. Friend to his post. As he will know, one of the key I believe that 75% of platforms are accessible by improvements that could be made for my constituents steps, but we need to do much more work. All train would be the provision of a new station at Edginswell. operating companies and Network Rail are required to Does he share the enthusiasm of his predecessor, my have a disabled people’s protection policy as a condition hon. Friend the Member for Blackpool North and of their licences. Cleveleys (Paul Maynard)—whom I see further down the Front Bench, in his new post as a Whip—for that The hon. Lady also contributed to the draft accessibility project, and does he agree that it would be a perfect action plan. There were a number of recommendations, beneficiary of the new stations fund? and I look forward to meeting her and ensuring that they are followed through. Joseph Johnson: I do share the enthusiasm of my hon. Friend the Member for Blackpool North and Cleveleys. 21. [903385] Dr Philippa Whitford (Central Ayrshire) We are currently investing more than £40 billion in (SNP): Having previously chaired the sight loss group, our network, including more than £15 billion on rail the Minister may be aware of concern expressed by enhancements, as part of the biggest rail modernisation Guide Dogs and the Royal National Institute of Blind programme for over a century, and we are always on the People.