CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 16013 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES-Tuesday, July 13, 1982 The House met at 12 o'clock noon. Bonior Frank Lungren Russo Snyder Waxman Bouquard Frenzel Madigan Sawyer Solarz Weaver The Reverend David Howle, pastor, Bowen Frost Markey Scheuer Spence Weber
D This symbol represents the time of day during the House proceedings, e.g., D 1407 is 2:07 p.m. e This "bullet" symbol identifies statements or insertions which are not spoken by the Member on the floor. 16014 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE July 13, 1982 pride that I introduce today's guest The SPEAKER. Objection is heard. H. RES. 518 chaplain-my close friend and pastor, Whereas information has come to the at the Reverend David Howle, of Colum tention of the House of Representatives bus, Ga. INTRODUCTION OF RESOLUTION that the Department of Justice and other As minister of my own church, Edge AUTHORIZING INVESTIGATION law enforcement authorities are conducting wood Baptist, for the past 10 years, BY COMMITTEE ON STAND investigations of- David has brought the sunshine of ARDS OF OFFICIAL CONDUCT (1) alleged improper or illegal sexual con duct of Members, officers, or employees of faith into the most desolate of lives. 89-059 0-86-16 (Pt. 12) 16028 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE July 13, 1982 either by bond issues, or other loans to Did you read in yesterday's paper siderable sums of money and been de stimulate the necessary development where 13 countries to whom we are layed time after time. We have tanks, for growth. selling arms when what they need is and the motors still will not operate It took Federal programs and the food are behind in paying interest on properly after working on them for Federal Government to obtain the re the loans for the weapons? Can we be years. Let us start getting some de quired funding for these fine programs surprised when we are pushing weap fense for our money. Let us let some which added to the overall wealth of ons of war to countries around the of this money go in and get back to our Nation. Now we are paying back world? Sometimes they use it and the real defense of our country. And those people who with the Federal sometimes we furnish both sides. I tell let me tell you again, I have supported Government helped pull themselves the Members it is time we put first defense since 1941, but defense is dif up by their own bootstraps. things first. As I said in my motion to ferent from military spending. I Where would our country be without override President Eisenhower's veto, expect to keep on supporting defense. revenue sharing, where would our the more we owe, the greater our mon But you have to have a strong econo towns and cities be without the sales etary problems and the more impera my and public support in readiness tax? We would have no flood control tive it is to take care of your own land and capability. Let us not lose public projects, no development or rivers and to develop our rivers and harbors; to support by spending money on exces harbors, and no recreational facilities. go ahead with our public works sive military spending that ought to be I would like to remind my colleagues projects to provide the water for our spent to support defense. that for 37 out of the last 39 years we big cities. Mr. BROWN of California. Mr. have been below the budget-and only I say to the Members we bring to Speaker, will the gentleman yield? in the last 2 years have we exceeded it you a message here. The outcome of because of military spending. We must this particular bill is not as important Mr. WHITTEN. I yield to the gentle continue to believe in equalizing the as for us to put first things first. I be man from California. opportunities of all the people in this lieve that the administration, particu Mr. BROWN of California. I thank country, from my State of Mississippi larly the Budget Director, cannot dis the gentleman for yielding. to each coast. We need to equalize op tinguish between money and the real I asked the gentleman to yield so portunities, and minimize the hurt in wealth of the country which is your that I can pay tribute to the fine flicted on many of those on fixed in land. statement that he has made here. I comes, on those people receiving social Do you realize we have before us a know that the gentleman feels very, security, and veterans pensions. I will budget that cuts the soil conservation very strongly about the defense of our continue to support national programs program about two-thirds, which could country. He expressed the view, which that develop and protect the Nation, take us back to the Dust Bowl days I share wholehe&.rtedly, that the its wealth, and its people, and at the that we had in the West? Do you real strength of this country depends upon same time help restore the value of ize there has not been a new water de our protection and the conservation of our money. velopment start in 2 years? Instead we all of the assets of this country, and I If a fellow just would take time and have been giving tax breaks to big want to commend him for making one read a little history, one should read business which they hoped would of the finest statements that I have the history between 1776 and 1787 spend their money to expand, but they heard. when you had each colony going its have not. Mr. WHITTEN. I appreciate very separate way. At that time, according So, when I come to this conclusion, much the statement by my colleague. to John A. Krout, a vice president of let me say again, this country is consti Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, will the Columbia University, all interests tuted of three equal coordinated gentleman yield? joined in a demand for a strong cen branches of Government. We are the Mr. WHITTEN. I yield to the gentle tral Government. This included eco people's branch. Each time we let the man from Pennsylvania. nomic interests, holders of Govern courts encroach on our rights they are ment securities, manufacturers, mer encroaching on the people's rights. Mr. w·ALKER. I thank the gentle chants, financiers, land speculators Each time we let the executive branch man for yielding. ar: : all the rest. encroach they are encroaching on the Before we left on the recess, we were I was on the way back here from people's rights. I do not wish to imply terming these bills that we were deal Mississippi recently, and in Virginia that a veto of anything Congress does ing with in the supplemental as the they are thinking of putting a quaran is encroaching, it is not. It is a dis "fat bill" and the "skinny bill." If I tine on certain goods and produce charge of the responsibility of the recall what we were saying was that in from out of State. You cannot have 50 President, and he is my President and one instance we were dealing with one States meeting their own problems out this is my country. I want to tell you, I that had only the very, very urgent of their pockets. Some of them will will do the very best I know to keep us matters in it, the skinny bill, and in not suffer so much because they get from reestablishing the situation that the fat bill we had some things in that increased military spending and they existed when I went to the Mississippi were over and above what was abso will come out all right. But when you Legislature. You could not buy a sack lutely essential. put it back on the other way you will of flour on the credit of New York or Can the gentleman tell me is what find that each time you have to cross the credit of the State of Mississippi. I we are dealing with right now, the fat the State line you are going to have to do not want to go that way. You know bill or the skinny bill? pay taxes. Human nature has not what they did before the bottom fell Mr. WHITTEN. May I say to the changed. If there is any way to break out? They had tight money, high in gentleman the use of the terms was a down a country internally, it is to have terest rates, and they said let private relative matter. One was fat as com 50 separate units competing with each enterprise come in. pared to the other which was skinny. other for taxes, for income, and in Yes; the Federal Reserve System Those were words that were picked up many cases you would not have it. holds itself, and it is all powerful, it here and often used. I am sure the Do you realize that we would not holds itself as unapproachable. I asked gentleman, having listened to them have any rural electrification in this the General Accounting Office to many times, was one of those who de country if we had to do it State by make a study of the Federal Reserve scribed them that way. But this is a State? Do you realize there would be System so now at least we will know comprehensive bill