Antarctic Deep Freeze Oral History Project Interview with Victor Young, LCDR, CEC USN (Ret.) Conducted on May 10, 1999, by Dian O
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Antarctic Deep Freeze Oral History Project Interview with Victor Young, LCDR, CEC USN (Ret.) conducted on May 10, 1999, by Dian O. Belanger DOB: Today is the 10th of May, 1999. I'm Dian Belanger. I'm speaking with Victor Young about his experiences during Deep Freeze I at Little America 5 and the trail party to Byrd Station. Thank you, Vic, for speaking with me. VY: Okay. Anything you want to know, if I can remember it, you'll get it. DOB: Please start by telling me something about your background. I'm interested in where you grew up, where you went to school, what you decided to do with your life, and in particular I'm interested in anything that might suggest that you'd end up from all of that in a place as exotic as Antarctica. VY: Well, I was born in North Bergen, New Jersey, and I grew up there. I joined the Navy in 1939 in an adjacent town called Hoboken. DOB: Were you a high school graduate then? VY: No. I had gone through three years of high school, and things were a little different then as far as the economy was concerned. Anyway, I was sent to a ship, what we used to call a beef boat. It hauled all kinds of food stuffs. Had two holds of refrigerated meat and so forth and three holds of dry stores. From there I was transferred to the Naval Air Station at Jacksonville, Florida. And during the time that I was aboard ship, I had to strike for something—a rate that you want to get involved in. And I was striking for gunner's mate. I was sent to the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville and stationed at the catapult, which was actuated by a charge of gun powder as opposed to steam as they have today. This was a training station where men were being trained to operate the OS2U2 Kingfisher aircraft. They're a scout aircraft. The battleships and cruisers carried these aircraft, and they were used to scout ahead of the fleet. It's peculiar saying things like this today when we have carrier battle groups and so forth. But in those days, you didn't have radar, and so these OS2U2s were launched from the cruiser or the battleship and went out scouting. It was a float-type plane. It had a float in the middle and two little floats at the end of the wings. And the last thing that these young cadets would do was come down to this catapult and get shot off of the thing, and they'd make a circle and land in the St. Johns River. And Victor Young Interview, May 10, 1999 2 then the crane, what we called the Mary Ann, would pick the aircraft up again and set it up on the catapult car. If it was you and I as cadets, you would drive, and then when we made a circle and landed and were picked up and set back on the car again, then I would drive. In other words, you're going to trust me to take you and I'm going to trust you to take me. But the basic thing was that both of them would come back alive. And the next day they would come down to the catapult and thank us for launching them and so forth. But when they first came down, they had the small stripe of a cadet. And when they came down the next time, they had the broader stripe of an ensign. In other words, they had made it. I was there at Jacksonville when Pearl Harbor was bombed. Although I was recommended and everything else to switch from gunner's mate to ordnanceman, aviation ordnanceman, I had one trip with these OS2U2s. You have to go on a check-hop, and the catapult officer said to me, "You're flying a check-hop with me tomorrow morning" at whatever the time was. That meant I would have his parachute out there by the plane at the time he stated, and we would go up with four cadets. And out there in the water there is a little—reminded me of an outhouse sitting out there, it was a target, a bomb target, but they didn't drop bombs. The fact of the matter, we probably didn't have many bombs at that time. But it was a sort of a shotgun-size thing, and it would make a splash. As the person doing the check-hop, I had a board strapped around my leg, and on that board was four circles. One represented each plane. And when the catapult officer, who was the instructor, gave them the word, "All right. Go ahead and dive on it," each cadet would dive. I would watch them to see where their bomb hit in the water and mark it on the circle. Well, we were supposed to do that, the four-plane group were supposed to do that, but I guess a storm or something was coming in—rain. Anyway, he sent the flight back, and we were out there by ourself. And he asked me did I ever dive on this thing, and I said no. And I really didn't care whether I did or not. [Chuckles] He said, "Cinch everything up tight"—the belts and so forth. And I'll never forget it. I was looking at the propeller. And the first thing I lifted it a little bit, and all of a sudden it dropped away and all you could see was that water. I said, "I don't think I need any more of this stuff." I never went through taking the test for aviation ordnanceman. So I was a gunner's mate instead, and when they bombed Pearl Harbor, I think it was that very same day or the next day, I was gone from NAS Jacksonville. I was up to the East River and putting an attack transport into commission. This was another almost exercise in futility. Victor Young Interview, May 10, 1999 3 All the crew coming to this ship were coming from cruisers, battleships. Anybody that had experience had never had experience on this type of ship because there was never any of that type of ship in the Navy. It was something that was developed for the type of war that we were going to be fighting which meant putting people on the beach. So you could say our main armament was our boats. We had some three-inch fifty-caliber guns; we had a battery of those back aft, to which I was assigned. They were built in 1914 or something like that. And we were trying to get the cosmolene off of them. Cosmolene is a hard grease. You don't want to do this. This is in December at the Brooklyn Navy Yard where you're working with gasoline trying to get this stuff off, all this hard cosmolene. Cold hands, getting cracked, whatever the gasoline did to them. I don't know. I must've inhaled a gallon of it through my hands. But anyway, we then moved out and went down through the Canal and up to San Diego, where we had some practice putting our Higgins boats on the beach. The Higgins boats didn't have a ramp in the front. They just had a curved bow, and you ran them up on the beach and the men had to jump off the side. The later ones, of course, had a ramp at the bow. I guess we broached a bunch of boats and so forth, but finally we started to understand something about this business. The dates I don't know. We subsequently took on a load of Marines and headed out to sea. Somebody knew where we were going, but we didn't know where we were going until weeks afterwards. We went to . where was that now? We went to Suva, the Fiji Islands. We went to there. First we stopped at some other island . Tonga. The Kingdom of Tonga. We went then to Fiji, and the Marines practiced going down the nets into the boats and going onto the beach. We did that for a while, and then we were steaming again at sea, and we were then told that we were going to someplace called Guadalcanal. We had no idea where Guadalcanal was, but we found out on 7 August 1942. And that's how we got involved in that war. DOB: So you spent most of the war in the Pacific then? VY: Yes. We went up the Solomon Island chain, but Guadalcanal was a hard nut because—well, we didn't have much. You must remember all during the time prior to our getting involved in this war, we had, in the way of military things, nothing. I understand that in the Army, men were training with broomsticks to represent rifles and so forth. Well, it was the same way with ships. When we formed this task force to go into Guadalcanal, we had about all of the Navy that was left. And like I say, there wasn't much to it. I saw no battleships or carriers, not in this thing here that we were involved in. I think we only had two carriers left. Some of the escorts were old four-pipe destroyers from World War I. Victor Young Interview, May 10, 1999 4 But anyway, it took six months or more, I guess, before you could say that Guadalcanal was secured—it was secure to the extent that we could use it.