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House Committee (Minutes) 13 Oct 95 House Committee (Minutes) 13 Oct 95 Mobile/Accessible Version | A A A | 繁體 | 简体 Advanced Search Council Meetings | Legislative Proposals | Budget & Financial Proposals | Committees | LegCo Procedures and Related Matters | Liaison | Overseas Duty Visits Committees (before 7/1997) House Committee (Minutes) 13 Oct 95 Finance Committee and Subcommittees LegCo Paper No. HB 32/95-96 Ref : HB/H/5 House Committee and Subcommittees Legislative Council House Committee (1995/96 Session) Panels Minutes of 2nd meeting held in the LegCo Chamber of the Legislative Council Building Bills Committees on Wednesday, 13 October 1995 at 2:30 p.m. Present : Current and Past Meeting Records Dr Hon LEONG Che-hung, OBE, JP (Chairman) Hon Ronald ARCULLI, OBE, JP (Deputy Chairman) Hon Mrs Selina CHOW, OBE, JP Hon Martin LEE, QC, JP Hon SZETO Wah Hon Edward S T HO, OBE, JP Hon Mrs Miriam LAU Kin-yee, OBE, JP Hon Albert CHAN Wai-yip Hon CHEUNG Man-kwong Hon CHIM Pui-chung Hon Frederick FUNG Kin-kee Hon Michael HO Mun-ka Dr Hon HUANG Chen-ya, MBE Hon Emily LAU Wai-hing Hon Eric LI Ka-cheung, JP Hon Henry TANG Ying-yen, JP Dr Hon Samuel WONG Ping-wai, MBE, FEng, JP Dr Hon YEUNG Sum Hon Howard YOUNG, JP Hon Zachary WONG Wai-yin Hon Christine LOH Kung-wai Hon James TIEN Pei-chun, OBE, JP Hon LEE Cheuk-yan Hon CHAN Kam-lam Hon CHAN Wing-chan Hon CHAN Yuen-han Hon Andrew CHENG Kar-foo Hon CHENG Yiu-tong Hon Anthony CHEUNG Bing-leung Hon CHEUNG Hon-chung Hon CHOY Kan-pui, JP Hon Albert HO Chun-yan Hon IP Kwok-him Hon LAU Chin-shek Dr Hon LAW Cheung-kwok Hon LAW Chi-kwong Hon LEE Kai-ming Hon LEUNG Yiu-chung Hon Bruce LIU Sing-lee Hon MOK Ying-fan Hon Margaret NG Hon NGAN Kam-chuen Hon SIN Chung-kai Hon TSANG Kin-shing Dr Hon John TSE Wing-ling http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr95-96/english/hc/minutes/hc131095.htm[14/4/2014 17:51:54] House Committee (Minutes) 13 Oct 95 Hon Mrs Elizabeth WONG, CBE, ISO, JP Hon Lawrence YUM Sin-ling Absent : Hon Allen LEE, CBE, JP Dr Hon David K P LI, OBE, LLD (Cantab), JP Hon NGAI Shiu-kit, OBE, JP Hon LAU Wong-fat, OBE, JP Hon LEE Wing-tat Hon Fred LI Wah-ming Hon James TO Kun-sun Dr Hon Philip WONG Yu-hong Hon Paul CHENG Ming-fun Hon David CHU Yu-lin Hon Ambrose LAU Hon-chuen, JP Hon LO Suk-ching In attendance : ASG2 (Clerk to the House Committee) SG LA(Atg) DSG ASG1 ALA1 ALA2 ALA3 ALA4 ALA5 CASC CPIO CAS(HC) SAS(HC) (1) Confirmation of the minutes of the last meeting held on 11.10.95 (2) Legal Advisers report on subsidiary legislation (a) Subsidiary legislation tabled in the Legislative Council on 11.10.95 (1995/96 Session) (b) Subsidiary legislation tabled in the Legislative Council on 5, 12, 19 and 26.7.95 (1994/95 Session) (3) Business for the LegCo sitting on 18.10.95 (a) Questions (b) Statements (c) Government Motion (d) Bills - 1st and 2nd Readings (e) Motion debate on "Private members bills" - to be moved by Mr David CHU Yu-lin (f) Adjournment debate on "The importance of encouraging broad education and modern-day literacy (e.g. computer literacy) in Hong Kong" - to be raised by Mrs Elizabeth WONG 4) Business for the LegCo sitting on 25 & 26.10.95 (a) Questions (b) Debate on Motion of Thanks (5) Any Other Business (a) Provisional dates of House Committee meetings for the 1995/96 Session (b) Amendments to Standing Orders of the Legislative Council (c) Proposed manner of election of Members of The Legislative Council Commission and their terms of office (d) Legislative Council Panels (e) Arrangement of seats in LegCo Chamber (f) Proposed delegation to observe the hearings of the United Nations Human Rights Committee (UNHRC) (1) Confirmation of the minutes of the last meeting held on 11.10.95 (LegCo Paper No. HB 28/95-96) The minutes were confirmed. (2) Legal Advisers report on subsidiary legislation (LegCo Paper No. LS 1/95-96) (a) Subsidiary legislation tabled in the Legislative Council on 11.10.95 (1995/96 Session) (b) Subsidiary legislation tabled in the Legislative Council on 5, 12, 19 and 26.7.95 (1994/95 Session) Referring to the Paper, the Legal Adviser explained the system by which Members studied subsidiary legislation. The Legal Service Division had prepared reports on the 105 items of subsidiary legislation gazetted during the period from 28.7.95 to 6.10.95 and the 49 items of subsidiary legislation tabled in the Council towards the end of the last LegCo term. The scrutiny period for these 49 items had been extended to the Council sitting to be held on 25 October 1995. http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr95-96/english/hc/minutes/hc131095.htm[14/4/2014 17:51:54] House Committee (Minutes) 13 Oct 95 In view of the large number of items and the fact that a deputation had sought to make representations on the Port Control (Cargo Working Areas) (Amendment) Regulation 1995 (Item 6 of Appendix IIIc to the Paper), he suggested Members consider setting up a subcommittee to study the subsidiary legislation. Members agreed. The following Members agreed to join the subcommittee: Mr Ronald ARCULLI, Mr James TIEN, Mr CHAN Kam-lam, Mr Andrew CHENG Kar-foo, Mr LIU Sing-lee and Mr NGAN Kam-chuen. (3) Business for the LegCo sitting on 18.10.95 (a) Questions (LegCo Paper No. CB 38/95-96) The Chairman advised that 20 questions (six oral and 14 written) had been tentatively scheduled. (b) Statements The Chairman advised that no statement had yet been notified. (c) Government Motion The Chairman advised that no motion had yet been notified. (d) Bills - 1st and 2nd Readings (i) Air Passenger Departure Tax (Amendment) Bill 1995 (ii) Legal Aid Services Council (No. 2) Bill (iii) Prevention of Bribery (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 1995 (iv) Tax Reserve Certificates (Amendment) Bill 1995 (v) Gas Safety (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 1995 (vi) Bank Notes Issue (Amendment) Bill 1995 (vii) Buildings (Amendment) (No. 3) Bill 1995 (viii) Intellectual Property (World Trade Organization Amendments) Bill 1995 The Chairman advised that the above bills would be introduced into LegCo on 18.10.95 and considered at the House Committee meeting on 20.10.95. (e) Motion debate on "Private members bills" - to be moved by Mr David CHU Yu-lin Members agreed to recommend to the President the following speaking times for motion debate: Maximum time allowed Mover of motion - introductory speech and final reply 15 minutes - replies to proposed amendments to motion 5 minutes (in total) Other speaker (including mover of amendments to motion) 7 minutes Member who has been given permission to reword his original proposed amendment to a additional speaking time motion which has been amended earlier on of 3 minutes As regards the speaking order during debates in the Council, Members agreed to continue with the past practice. Members who wished to speak should, apart from raising their hands, press the "call" button to ensure that they would be called. Members noted the wording of Mr CHUs motion and the amendment proposed to be made to the motion by Mr LEE Cheuk-yan, which was tabled at the meeting. In response to Members, the clerk advised that the minimum notice of a motion for debate and of amendment to the motion was 12 clear days and five clear days respectively. As regards an amendment to an amendment to a motion, although the Standing Orders were silent on the notice requirement, the past practice, as provided in the House Rules, was that 3 clear days notice was required. However, the President of the Council was the ultimate authority in this regard. (f) Adjournment debate on "The importance of encouraging broad education and modern- http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr95-96/english/hc/minutes/hc131095.htm[14/4/2014 17:51:54] House Committee (Minutes) 13 Oct 95 day literacy (e.g. computer literacy) in Hong Kong" - to be raised by Mrs Elizabeth WONG The Chairman said that total time provided for Members to speak in an adjournment debate, as provided in the Standing Orders, was 45 minutes unless extended by the President. The time would be apportioned among the Members speaking and the Member raising the matter for debate had a minimum speaking time of five minutes. The Chairman informed Members that those who wished to speak should notify the Secretariat before 12:00 noon on Monday, 16.10.95. Members who did not indicate their intention to speak by the deadline but would nevertheless like to speak, might be called upon by the President to speak towards the end if there was still time available in the 45- minute period. 4) Business for the LegCo sitting on 25 & 26.10.95 (a) Questions (LegCo Paper No. CB 39/95-96) The Chairman advised that, in accordance with convention, only written questions would be asked at the sittings at which the Governors Policy Address would be debated. Members noted that 20 written questions (tabled at the meeting) had been tentatively scheduled. (b) Debate on Motion of Thanks The Chairman said that the maximum speaking time for each Member would be 15 minutes. Members who had a special reason to speak on a particular day should inform the Secretariat. (5) Any Other Business (a) Provisional dates of House Committee meetings for the 1995/96 Session (LegCo Paper No.
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