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Vol. 803 Tuesday No. 56 12 May 2020 PARLIAMENTARYDEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDEROFBUSINESS Questions Covid-19: Vulnerable Populations ..................................................................................559 Coronavirus Business Interruption Loan Scheme ..........................................................562 Schools: Relationships and Sex Education .....................................................................566 Covid-19: Vulnerable People...........................................................................................569 Covid-19: Public Transport Safety Private Notice Question ..................................................................................................572 Census (England and Wales) Order 2020 Motion to Consider .........................................................................................................575 Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 Motion to Consider .........................................................................................................596 Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2020 Motion to Consider .........................................................................................................619 Beyond Brexit (European Union Committee Report) Motion to Consider .........................................................................................................619 Covid-19: Strategy Statement .......................................................................................................................658 Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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This issue of the Official Report is also available on the Internet at https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2020-05-12 The first time a Member speaks to a new piece of parliamentary business, the following abbreviations are used to show their party affiliation: Abbreviation Party/Group CB Cross Bench Con Conservative DUP Democratic Unionist Party GP Green Party Ind Lab Independent Labour Ind LD Independent Liberal Democrat Ind SD Independent Social Democrat Ind UU Independent Ulster Unionist Lab Labour Lab Co-op Labour and Co-operative Party LD Liberal Democrat LD Ind Liberal Democrat Independent Non-afl Non-affiliated PC Plaid Cymru UKIP UK Independence Party UUP Ulster Unionist Party No party affiliation is given for Members serving the House in a formal capacity, the Lords spiritual, Members on leave of absence or Members who are otherwise disqualified from sitting in the House. © Parliamentary Copyright House of Lords 2020, this publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 559 Arrangement of Business[12 MAY 2020] Covid-19: Vulnerable Populations 560 House of Lords taking shape? Does he share concerns that these easements, Tuesday 12 May 2020 if enacted, would risk the delivery of the care needed to support community living and the achievement of 11 am the goals set out in Transforming Care? Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Durham in a Virtual Proceeding via video call. Lord Bethell: The noble Baroness, Lady Bull, asks a searching question. On whether the Mental Health Arrangement of Business Act easements of which she speaks have already been Announcement enacted, I will have to find out exactly what those 11.13 am arrangements are and write to her. However, I assure the House that the care of the most vulnerable is The announcement was made in a Virtual Proceeding absolutely the Government’s number one, top priority. via video call. It is true that some of those caring and providing The Lord Speaker (Lord Fowler): My Lords, I apologise important pastoral care for the most vulnerable have for the slight delay, which was due to a technical issue been worst hit by Covid—the examples she gives are with the transmission of information. I remind Members really good ones—but we are absolutely putting the that these proceedings are subject to parliamentary care of the most vulnerable at the top of our priorities. privilege and that what we say is available to the public both in Hansard and to those listening and watching. Baroness Healy of Primrose Hill (Lab): Yesterday, Members’ microphones will initially be set to mute, the Prime Minister said of his road map: and the broadcasting team will unmute their microphone shortly before we reach their place in the speakers’ list. “it is a plan that should give the people of the United Kingdom When Members have finished speaking, their microphones hope.” will again be set to mute. I ask everyone to keep But on examination of the plan, I see no hope offered questions and answers as brief as possible, so that we to the clinically extremely vulnerable, who are just told can reach as many on the list as we possibly can. that they must continue to shield beyond June. The Virtual Proceedings on Oral Questions will now Government offer only a future review into the effects commence. on their well-being. Can the Minister say how and when this review will be conducted, and by who? Covid-19: Vulnerable Populations Question Lord Bethell: My Lords, the advice from the 11.14 am Government is that the clinically extremely vulnerable should continue to be shielded until the end of June. Asked by Baroness Bull That is under review at the moment. We are seeking to Toask Her Majesty’sGovernment what assessment have more refined and more targeted guidance after they have made of the measures in place to protect the end of June, and we will publish that before the vulnerable populations during the COVID-19 end of that month. pandemic. The Question was considered in a Virtual Proceeding Lord Truscott (Ind Lab): My Lords, can the Minister via video call. reassure those healthy over-70s that they will not be obliged to self-isolate against their will? Will he also TheParliamentaryUnder-Secretaryof State,Department comment on evidence that many care homes were of Health and Social Care (Lord Bethell) (Con): My forced to admit Covid-19-positive patients, so causing Lords, social distancing and shielding measures are in this pandemic to spiral out of control in those homes? place to protect vulnerable and clinically extremely vulnerable populations. Those identified as clinically extremely vulnerable are advised to stay at home with Lord Bethell: I reassure the noble Lord that the no face-to-face contact until at least the end of June. Government are not obliging healthy over-70s to self- Ourapproachisundercontinuousreview.TheGovernment’s isolate. However, the guidance is clear: they are a position on shielding and social distancing reflects the vulnerable group and the disease targets those who are latest SAGE and clinical advice from the Chief Medical older. They are therefore advised to avoid all social Officer. contact, if necessary. That advice is based on the science of the disease, and we will seek ways of trying Baroness Bull (CB): My Lords, every person with a to ameliorate that once the disease has fallen back. learning disability has the right to be supported to live in their community, but Covid-19 is putting already- delayed in-patient transfers at risk. In March some Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Con): My Lords, 1,900 adults and 200 children were still locked away in does my noble friend agree that the most vulnerable are in-patient units, the majority sectioned under the Mental clearly the residents of care homes and their care workers? Health Act and staying for five years in facilities Will he confirm the very sad figures of, as I understand intended to be short-term. Can the Minister share his it, 10,000 deaths suffered in care homes? Will he also department’s updated assessment of whether the Mental confirm that these figures have now been added to the Health Act easements provided for in the Coronavirus total? Will the Government now prioritise care home Act will be required, now that the peak in infections workers for the full kit of PPE, to give them the utmost has been passed and a plan for lifting restrictions is safety as they look after our most vulnerable people? 561 Covid-19: Vulnerable Populations [LORDS] CBILS 562 Lord Bethell: I reassure the House that deaths in explain why, then, yesterday’s strategy document set a care homes have always been part of the official figures. target of 6 June? Which is it? It looks like the Government It is a very sad affair, and it shows how the disease failed to meet the promise to provide the tests on time attacks those who are most vulnerable. The arrangements and have now moved the goalposts again. for PPE in social care settings have improved dramatically, and we have put in place measures so that any care home Lord Bethell: I share the noble Baroness’s celebration can make its own application for PPE as it needs it. of Florence Nightingale Day, which is an important day for the nursing profession and for all of us. We Baroness Jolly (LD): Will the Minister tell the House have made huge progress on testing in care homes in what advice or