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Healing With the Masters Teleseminar Volume VI – November 2, 2010: Michael Bernard Beckwith Jennifer: This is Tuesday, November the 2nd, 2010 and we're here with Healing with the Masters with our special guest tonight—Rev. Michael Bernard Beckwith. And Rev. Beckwith’s life is a living testament to building spiritual community. In the 1970’s, he began on an inward journey into the teachings of East and West. And today, teaches universal truth principles found in new thought, ancient wisdom, and tradition of spirituality. Gifted with a vision of trance, the non-denominational spiritual community, in 1986, he founded the Agape International Spiritual Center upon his faith of that original vision. Recently described in What is Enlightenment Magazine as a non- aligned, trans-religious progressive—wow, that's a mouthful. That's sounds kind of cool too. Dr. Beckwith shares his powerful conviction of creating the beloved community whose participation on international panels with other peacemakers and spiritual leaders in Sri Lanka and with the grandson of Mahatma Gandhi and I think he’s also been on panels with the Dalai Lama. He's co-founder of the Association for Global Thought, an organization dedicated to planetary healing and transformation. Rev. Michael Bernard Beckwith is the originator of the Life Visioning Process which he teaches throughout the country along with meditation, scientific prayer and the spiritual benefits of selfless service. He facilitates retreats, workshops and seminars. His books include Inspiration of the Heart; 40-day Mind Fast, Soul Feast; A Manifesto of Peace. And tonight, we're going to talk a little bit about his book, Spiritual Liberation. Welcome Rev. Michael to the show. Michael: Oh, it is absolutely my joy to be here with you today as I to proclaim the beauty and the love and the joy of life itself. Jennifer: Oh, indeed, you've already started. It's so wonderful. Thank you so much. Well, I really enjoyed book Spiritual Liberation, Fulfilling your Soul’s Potential. And I think that's probably what you've been dedicated most of your life to. But, I'd love to hear a little bit of the story behind Spiritual Liberation. And then, maybe dive into some of the pretty big concepts that you go through in that book. So, what is the story behind it? Michael: Are you speaking the story behind the book or the story behind the life? Jennifer: Yes. Well, I guess it's your life really, isn't it? Because the book is about your life. So, yes, what is your story? Michael: What's my story? What is his story and then there's God’s story. Jennifer: Ah, yes. Copyright 2010, all rights reserved Jennifer McLean – Healing With the Masters, www.McLeanMasterWorks.com Healing With the Masters Teleseminar Volume VI – November 2, 2010: Michael Bernard Beckwith Michael: Well, we've been celebrating the life divine here in Agape for 24 years now here in November; it would be 24 years. Before that, I was a spiritual therapist for seven workshop seminars. And before that, I had a spiritual opening in my 20s that totally moved me out of the paradigm which I was living at that particular time. And I could never get back in that box. For those who have read through the books, Spiritual Liberation, or seen the movie, Spiritual Liberation, know that I was in a lucid dream that in which I stabbed in the heart. And the pain was excruciating and I died. And when I woke up I could see that were surrounded this universal presence of such love and such beauty and such intensity that it changed my life forever. And I went on a spiritual inquiry to discover what had happened to me. And an inquiry into and just exactly what happened. And so, doing bumped into the mystics of the ages and the teachings of East and West. And realized that what had occurred was an awakening to that which is real, that which is eternal, that which is forever. And that particular search, that particular inquiry continues to this day. Always seeking to wake up—when am I going to discover today about the presence, the activity of the presence and the law of power. When am I going to discover about myself and you know, it's not always roses but it's always an emergence of something good that’s within everyone that's trying to express itself. Before that awakening, you know I had wonderful intentions of helping to change the world; growing up in an activist family. And as a matter of fact, before that awakening occurred, one of the precursors to that was I was a part of a group to change the world. And I looked around the room, a voice asked me, “You know, if we were to take over the world tomorrow, would the world be any different?” When I looked around the room, I noticed that there was tremendous—people having territorial disputes and ego problems and all manner of things. And I realized that if we were to take over the world tomorrow, we would not be any different. So, I stopped going to those kinds of meetings and realized that there something else that was trying to occur but I didn't know what it was. And it was only after that particular experience which of course preceded itself with months of dreams and inner visions and all manner of consternation and stuff that was going on with me. It was after that particular experience I realized that it was really the shift of consciousness that must propel our actions in order to make a real change and a lasting change in our world and our society. And I've been at it ever since with a tremendous amount of joy and gratitude and thanksgiving for being alive. That’s in a nutshell but you can ask any questions around that and I'd be happy to answer. Copyright 2010, all rights reserved Jennifer McLean – Healing With the Masters, www.McLeanMasterWorks.com Healing With the Masters Teleseminar Volume VI – November 2, 2010: Michael Bernard Beckwith Jennifer: Yes. In your book where early on you talk about what it means to become enlightened. So, I'd love for you to share with us your perspective on enlightenment. Michael: Well, I think that, you know, wherever you are in your spiritual growth, you're probably more enlightened today than you were yesterday, depending on your practice and your intentionality. But when we talk about being enlightened, we're talking about being able to pay undistractable to reality that which is real, that which is eternal, that which is forever. And if one has a state of enlightenment, it means you're able to hold that state for a longer period of time. It’s not just a flash in the pan. It has a shift, there's a shift in your perspective; there's spiritual signs that follow this in terms of the emergence of greater sense of compassion and love and forgiveness and patience. So, enlightenment is not like a blissed out state. Actually bliss is the activation of our potential. And so, everyone is a candidate for enlightenment; everyone is a candidate for this physics shift and expansion of one’s perception to vision state. There's something knocking on the door, if everyone talk right now. And I think, when we either get sick and tired of being sick and tired or if there's an insight— in my case, it was a combination of both, we become ripe and right for that moment. Jennifer: I love that—the bliss is the activation of our potential. So, it's not a state of being that many of us in three dimensions will actually achieve 24/7. It is the potential of what we are. And that leads me to a question about the nature of this great something we call God. That's a quote from your book. So, what is our relationship to God? And from your perspective, what is God? Michael: You know, now you're getting into the unanswerable questions of which I would use words. Jennifer: Thank you. Michael: I would use words but we all know when you deal with what is God, you know, you're actually—this thing, this presence can only be known through insight. I mentioned to the Agape Congregation a couple of weeks ago what I'm saying, I can't teach you. This can't be taught, it can only be caught. It's already caught in consciousness through your attention. So, knowing that, then I can say that our relationship to this presence is that we're emanations of it. We’re—just like that sunbeam, it's never separated from sun. It carries the full light and luminosity of the sun. And just as the waves are an extension or an emanation of the ocean and they carry all the qualities of the ocean. We're an extension or an emanation or the Copyright 2010, all rights reserved Jennifer McLean – Healing With the Masters, www.McLeanMasterWorks.com Healing With the Masters Teleseminar Volume VI – November 2, 2010: Michael Bernard Beckwith life of God. And God is not a person, he's not an anthropomorphic being. God is a presence not an absence but a presence of love and of beauty and of intelligence. And this presence is everywhere, that's why we call it omnipresent. It's all knowing, that's why we call it omniscient.