Associated Students of the University of Student Senate Minutes Session XXI

February 17, 2015 Paccar 192 Call to Order: 5:01 pm

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA 5:00 pm

Brady Begin asks for additions, deletions or modifications to the Senate agenda. The Steering Committee voted to approve a Special Order of the Day for the U-PASS legislation as that is time sensitive. It has to be approved by the Senate body at large. He asks if the sponsor would like to speak on it. Katherine Sims says she’s Chair of the U-PASS Advisory Board and the memorandum that created U-PASS says that it has to be reconsidered every two years. We have to get it through ASUW Senate and GPSS and the Board within the next two weeks. Brady Begin asks for an objection to considering it as Special Order of the Day. Seeing none, the item is approved.

Adam Griffis moves to consider R-21-23 and R-21-24 in an expedited manner. Seconded Objection Adam Griffis says these are in honor of Michael Young leaving and Ana Mari Cauce becoming interim President. He thinks they will only take a couple of minutes. Kevin Shotwell withdraws the objection. Seeing no other objections, the motion is approved.

Brady Begin asks for further additions, deletions, or modifications. Seeing none, there is a clicker vote on approval of the Senate agenda.

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SPEAKER’S REPORT 5:04 pm

Brady Begin says he doesn’t have anything to report.

VICE SPEAKER’S REPORT 5:05 pm

Kevin Celustka says he posted his blog on the Facebook group just now. Board went for 6 hours last week. They discussed quite a few things but the majority of the meeting regarded the EPP. They discussed amendments, candidate-run polling station, and food giveaways. They’ll be passing the final version this week. They also heard from Katherine about the U-PASS and from Noelle Symanski, WSA chair about the issue they’re having with their budget. Hopefully a resolution for that will come through in the future. The Board passed all 4 of the resolutions the Senate voted on last week. He says he’s not sure if it’s a record but he was impressed.

MEMBERSHIP COORDINATOR’S REPORT 5:08 pm

Jessa Cameron says sweatshirts and t-shirts should get here by Friday so you’ll get them next week if we do get them then. Also, a reminder: you can only proxy for one other person, keep that in mind if multiple people ask you. It’s never too late to join Senate so ask your friends to join.

BOARD OF DIRECTORS REPORT 5:09 pm

Brady Begin asks if any members of the Board would like to come to the floor to share something with us. Seeing none, the meeting proceeds.

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FORUM 5:09 pm

Brady Begin says the Provost is not yet here. Kevin Celustka moves to table the Forum until Provost Cauce arrives. Seconded Seeing no objections, the Forum is tabled.

Brady Begin says we will discuss the next item of business in the meantime. He invites the sponsor to the floor. Katherine Sims reads the resolution. Since this is complicated she has a PowerPoint and some members of Transportation Services to help her answer questions. Also, Thomas Crowe is the Senate liaison to the U-PASS Advisory Committee and Hailey Badger and Christina Xiao are on the Advisory Board as well. A little history: we’ve been working on this for the past month and originally Transportation Services came to us with a $9 increase, we were able to change it to $4 each year over 2 years. Essentially, they just switched to a different program that will cost us less. The U- PASS was started in 1991. It’s a student program created for students and by students. Originally it was started for environmental concerns as well as desires to commute and have more access to the city. Eventually ASUW and GPSS decided to make the UPASS universal, decreasing the price for students. It hasn’t had an increase until now. This is the most common way students get to campus and it saves a ton of CO2 from getting into the atmosphere. Most importantly, students really depend on it. A survey indicated that 94% of students are happy with it and 99% have used it. The U-PASS services aren’t just busses and the train, they also include Pronto cycle share and Zipcar and Car2Go. 84% of students say it makes it easier for them to get to school. Night Ride is also part of it. Rates have stayed steady for the past 4 years, and the program has been building up reserve funding. One problem is that King County Metro and Sound transit are having rate increases this year. Also, there will be more services coming our way, like taking the light rail downtown and increased bus service. We’ll have a lot more resources for the price. Brady Begin introduces Ana Mari Cauce, and invites her to take the floor. Ana Mari Cauce says things have changed a bit since she agreed to come to the Senate. The Senate is the first group she’s spoken to since she was named Interim President. Mostly she says she wants to do a Q and A, but she’ll speak a little bit first. One thing to discuss is the change in position, which is still something new for her. Already she’s been contacting legislators. She says she anticipates a 1-year contract, which is normal for interim positions. She’ll be President for a year. On some level, all presidents are interims, it’s just a matter of how long the interim is.

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Her first concern right now is the legislature, which she’s sure senators will have questions about. She’s trying to ensure we give them the message that UW and higher education really are the best investment they can make. We tend to look at things as costs, and this obviously costs something, but it’s important to look at the short term and long term consequences. About half the faculty is not paid on state funds. We just had a report on the economic impact of the University. We have clinical faculty and research faculty and when they come in, it’s like a small business in many cases. Chris Murray came here with a cast of more than a few dozen. It’s like a small business in that someone comes in and opens up quite a few jobs. In that sense we’re job creators as well. Many of our students and faculty are involved in patents and startups as well. 87% of patents out of the University have had some student involvement. The UW helps to make the region and the state stronger, and that’s the message it’s important for all of us to bring forward together. She says her hunch is that 90% of the University and Association’s agendas is in common and the more we can speak together the better. We’re committed to affordability and access. It’s important when we think about access not to just consider who comes in but who graduates. The UW has the highest 6-year graduation rate in the state. Student debt is a problem, but it multiplies if you don’t get a degree. Debt is not a good investment if you don’t graduate. Affordability is also an issue and how affordable we can be depends on State investment. It’s not just a private good, but a public good, a good for the entire state. People with degrees are more likely to be involved in civic activities and less likely to need assistance from the state. Scholarships and financial aid are important. Students did a good job last year making the case for the middle, so we’re considering how we can offer more support to the middle class without taking from lower class students. One thing she really cares about is raising money for scholarships. At the end of the day, what makes your degree worth it is excellence and quality of education. We don’t need to give up one for the other. One more thing she wants to say is that students won’t see the school changing course. All the initiatives the University’s been working on during President Young’s tenure she’s been involved in. He was very collaborative and work has been done as a team and will continue that way. Thomas Crowe says thank you and asks for ideas Provost Cauce has regarding diversity. Ana Mari Cauce says they’ve been working on that and it’s a personal interest of hers. She chaired the Faculty Committee on Diversity Affairs and in her academic work she’s primarily worked with at-risk and homeless youth. Her number one agenda is that everyone here feels welcome. Some may have noticed after the murders of the three Muslim students in Chapel Hill she sent out a message. When she went to the vigil some students had it was clear that students felt very vulnerable and also that the diversity they bring to the University was invisible. She would like to see this University reflect society’s diversity. Our state is not one of the most diverse. If you look at demographics of student body compared to state, it’s much more consonant for us than at many other universities. It’s important we work harder. She was a Principle Investigator on the LSAT grant and she’s worked on diversifying pipeline in terms of STEM degrees. Her office wants to ensure there’s diversity in areas there hasn’t been which includes expanding STEM in terms of enrollment. The University is doubling the size of Computer Science Department. Everytime we increase STEM we’re increasing program where diversity is limited. At least as of now, this will be the first year in terms of hiring we will have hired more women than men, about 52%. Part of how we got there is we did an analysis of

4 hiring at the university and saw a paradox. Junior faculty was about 52% women but the percentage was not even close in senior faculty, so they had to consider why female faculty weren’t moving up the pipeline. A huge amount were white males. So she’s pushing very hard to hire at an assistant level. She wants to listen to students on what they think her office can do as well. Nikhil Pailoor asks if growing computer science requires a cutback in other departments. Ana Mari Cauce says the growth in Computer Science is an additive, but some departments are shrinking because of student movements. When the administration decides on the size of a department, it isn’t only student movements they focus on because we hire for 30 years, and we have a responsibility to preserve and expand knowledge and so there are some areas we need to have a certain size because they are critical to the knowledge base we’re creating. 50 years ago we might have shrunk our Islamic and Near Eastern studies department or 20 years ago the Slavic studies, but that wouldn’t be good for us now. During this time of economic crisis and with large unemployment, we saw students run to STEMs because they think those will lead to jobs. As the economy improves she thinks those will even out. The numbers are large enough to make a difference. In terms of Computer Science, we need a new building, we’re not taking one that belongs to someone else. Arielle Menn says thank you. President Young left the University with a lot of long-term initiatives. She asks if there’s a structure in place to continue the progress on those initiatives. Ana Mari Cauce says her duty is to leave the President’s office in better shape than she found it. She hopes we’ll be looking for someone whose interests match what we’ve been working towards. President Young’s initiatives are based on a lot of outreach, and listening to the community and their needs. She thinks the Regents will listen to that. She says everyone will have different takes. She does the Provost job slightly differently than other people have, for example she still teaches Undergraduates because it feeds her, she enjoys it. There is a saying in Spanish that there are those things that suck and those things that blow, and she finds that teaching blows for her. It’s important to her that she stay involved with PACs, though maybe only once a month now. Another thing that is very important to her is the innovation initiative with Vikram Jandhyala, the Vice Provost for Innovation. Commercialization of faculty and students’ ideas that can change the world is something we should encourage. The other reason is sometimes they fail and they feed back into the next round of research, she sees that as part of the cycle. Innovation happens all across the University, too. The UW put a show of Antigone, opera done with flamenco. What was cool is we have this internship for companies and the world premier was here. Our classics instructors were involved as well as students from the dance program. We need to think about that as innovation. When we think about impact, it’s read as ‘impact tomorrow’ and basic research is left out. Basic research has a huge impact, just 50 years down the line. So a priority for her is giving the innovation imperative a broader scope. So you’ll see her give things a slightly different take, and talk about them differently. Bryce Wagner says she mentioned keeping affordability is important and asks if there are any specific steps to doing that. Ana Mari Cauce says a big part of that is bringing a more united agenda to Olympia. She came in to the UW in 1986. She’s heard people saying we have plenty of money we just use it poorly. But two years ago we had a more successful legislative session with tuition freeze and it’s because the

5 administration and faculty and students all held hands and gave a united front. One thing that sometimes happens is that the legislature pits social services against higher education and part of it is they’re both in the same part of the discretionary budget. But if you don’t keep higher education funded, who are they going to get to staff these services? She says if she recalls, after the dental and medical schools, social work has the highest debt levels. If you can’t graduate from those programs without serious debt, who’s going to do those jobs? Making a real effort on student scholarships is really important. A major donor came to her and asked what her priority was with donated money. She said student scholarships, and we’re going to get a lot of money for that. Roy Taylor thanks her for coming and asks what will happen to her office when she becomes the interim President. Ana Mari Cauce says the crazy thing is it goes interim all the way down. So she’ll have to find an interim Provost and we’ll need someone that can take that position right away. Brady Begin asks if she can address some of the conflicts in the shared governance structure. For example, PACs decided not to fund a biology building last year but ASACs did elect to pay for it and ASUW was kind of in the middle. He asks how she sees shared governance evolving in the future. Ana Mari Cauce says if you think about our country’s structure there is checks and balances. And we know that ASUW is elected student representatives which is very valuable, but some other groups know more about the specifics. She tries to balance out where people are coming from. She doesn’t consider one group to be more important than the other. The administration would like the state to fund all of our buildings, and that is the key principle. It’s not that ASUW or PACS doesn’t recognize importance of the life sciences building. ASACS is right in the middle of it. Biology is critical, not just because it’s one of the largest majors on campus, but because it’s basic to so many other majors. Engineering and health sciences are critical. It’s a bad choice not to keep biology really strong. She says she wants to tell a story. Someone she knows from a trip to was making a movie about Fidel Castro saying what we need to do is make the new revolutionist man, the new socialist man. This guy is going to do a Frankenstein themed man and he wanted to use a lab like a poor country might have and he heard that our biology department was a good place to do that. He took film clips. That’s completely true. Often you have two good principles and in this case, we need to build this building, but she does understands all the perspectives. It’s not like she’ll always side with one group. Eli McMeen says he’s heard her say she wants the university be ‘elite but not elitist’. He asks how Provost Cauce sees the University doing that without falling prey to the ratings game. Ana Mari Cauce says she agrees with President Young on our goal of making this the number one university in the world. That isn’t the same as being number one in US World Report rankings. She says Top 10 on that list is more than fine with her. She wants to see what those programs use on the ratings. One big one with that is selectivity, which is basically how many students a University turns down. That has nothing to do with quality. We could go on a marketing campaign across the country to get more applications to turn down, but that would waste her time and students’ resources. But it would raise our ratings. On a lot of the ratings from Asia which are more metrics- based we tend to do particularly well. It’s hard for rankings to really change. One she’s really pleased about are Washington Monthly rankings. We have a Top 5 ranking for mobility which counts

6 graduation rates, Pell Grant eligibility, and job placement. In fact, we reject students that she wishes were here. One special thing is we have a large number of low-middle income students. We propel them into the stratosphere. We had one student, a Mexican-American woman and when she came to this country her mom was escaping domestic violence. She and her brother and her mom lived in a car. Ana Mari was doing a project on Latino families and invited the girl to work in her lab. At the time the student wanted to be a bank teller. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s good, honest work. She got a scholarship and went to Rome and she worked in her lab. The student ended up going to Duke for graduate school on full scholarship and is now a brand new tenured professor at a top- ranked UC school in public health. She does a lot of work on particularly Latino women on health problems like obesity and breast cancer. If she’d gone to another university in the state, she would not have done that. With our reputation, Ana Mari’s word alone will get students looked at. The can get you the same kinds of places as the expensive private schools. Kainen Bell says in the President’s role there are a lot of extra pressures. He asks how she manages that? Ana Mari Cauce says she believes in self-management and self-monitoring. She walks and hikes in nature, it’s very soothing for her. She has some strange habits. She takes meetings outside with those who are willing. Also, family comes first on a number of issues. She made plans for the whole family to spend time here over the holidays and told the Regents she was doing that no matter what else was coming when President Young resigned. She can’t say her spouse is thrilled with that, but there needs to be things that ground her and her spouse is not impressed with her position. That’s very grounding. Making sure she spends time with students and faculty, and not in Olympia or with donors is also important for her. But, she doesn’t think that the pressures will be that much bigger than on the Provost. Aram Ambartsumyan says as we’ve talked about the need for the biology expansion. Ana Mari Cauce says Computer Science is an expansion, biology is not an expansion. Aram Ambartsumyan says there are also some departments are getting smaller. Which are those and at which point will the administration add resources to stop that? Ana Mari Cauce says it’s a national trend against humanities and social sciences. You might want to involve Bob Stacey if you have more questions on that. The College of Arts and Sciences created C21, the notion of liberal arts for the 21st century. Lots of people are scared they won’t be able to get jobs if they go into those fields. So we ask, how do we make sure our liberal arts graduates are job ready? If you have worked on a project for the Jackson School for example, you put project management on your resume, because that’s what you’ve done. We need to take skills learned in liberal arts and translate them to the language the business world finds valuable. She says she would very much like to do a business minor, to open up some of those classes to other majors. She’s a big believer in liberal arts. It’s really important to keep that strong. Kevin Shotwell says thank you. He asks if she would like to remain the permanent University President and also if she’ll keep using Facebook. Ana Mari Cauce says if becoming President means changing who she is, she doesn’t want it. She wants to be herself, so she won’t stop being involved on Facebook. She gets a sense of the pulse on

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Facebook, and she thinks it makes her more effective if she’s not a suit, if she’s a whole person. She also doesn’t want to spend a year being a candidate for the position. At some point they’ll launch a search and have an application deadline. She hasn’t made up her mind yet, and she gets to try it on first. Cristal Rangel Peña says she knows there’s a big divide between authority and students, particularly minority groups. She asks how the Provost would bridge that divide. Ana Mari Cauce says she doesn’t want to get carried away by being the first anything. She’s proud students can see themselves in her, that’s great. And she does believe that diversity adds to excellence. It’s also just morally the right thing to do, but it’s a vital part of making the UW great. If you look at demographics and see that we’re not a good home for ethnic minority students, we’re not going to be a good University. Brady Begin asks if Provost Cauce has a time constraint. Ana Mari Cauce says she already told Susan she wouldn’t be home for dinner. Brady Begin says there’s no time limit then, but if a senator wants to move to end or limit conversation, that’s in order. Ana Mari Cauce says she’ll be around and she’ll come back to Senate. She has a Provost Town Hall this month with some Q and A for those interested, as well. Erin Nguy asks if she’s president will she still teach undergraduate classes? Ana Mari Cauce says absolutely. She has an undergrad helping her that is a TA on steroids, she’s wonderful. She has to structure it in a particular way, but she’ll definitely continue teaching. Abby Kozyra asks if there are any lessons from Presidet Young or other presidents she intends to use in her position. Ana Mari Cauce says she learned from Michael Young and she wants to continue the very collaborative style of leadership he had. The Provost and President particularly are very collaborative and she wants to keep that up. She does want to change some things, for example she has a lower tolerance for ‘meetings for meeting’s sake’ and she’ll make some changes in the cabinets. She’s seen a lot of presidents, but she has to hold the position in a way that is comfortable for her. She will not change who she is to do the job, except perhaps dressing up a little bit more. She says she might have to buy a skirt. Nothing big will change. Brady Begin asks for any further questions. Seeing none, he thanks Ana Mari for coming. Ana Mari Cauce says thank you to the Senate body for having her.

SPECIAL ORDER OF THE DAY 5:10 pm

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R-21-22: A Resolution in Support of the Universal U-PASS Biennial Fee Recommendation Katherine Sims says after that exciting interlude, back to the U-PASS. Now more into technical stuff. We started out with a surplus but that’s shrunk as rates have increased. There are different forms of revenue for the program, and student dollars are used last. The reason the proposal changed was due to a change in the structure, including a less conservative risk assessment, which should save students money in the long run. If we were not to have the universal U-PASS anymore it would cost another $297 plus $567 per student for all the services per quarter. The alternative is the dissolution of the UPASS program. This will be predictable for students as it’s $4, then $4 more the next year. The light rail extending to the U District will be a greatly increased value. She invites questions and says she’ll defer to others when useful. David Goldstone asks if we’re on first readings of the legislation. Brady Begin says yes. David Goldstone asks about the 10 year and 20 year financial stability of the program. Katherine Sims says they asked that as a board as well. Those are hard to predict as there are a lot of rate increases between the different local transportation programs that we don’t have any control over. Josh Kavanagh, Director of Transportation Services at the UW, says unequivocally yes, the cost of program will go up over 10 and 20 years. We also hope the program will be successful even as rates will go up. But through the governance model we have, which he thinks is the coolest thing ever, it is unique and robust and will ensure that if it is the will of students it will continue to be valuable to students. Eli McMeen asks where the costs come from and how we’re engaged. Katherine Sims says that’s part of Transportation Service’s job. They negotiate with the different organizations to get us a lower price. Josh Kavanagh says through the U-PASS Advisory Board they get student priorities. They also deal with the realities of the system. At the beginning of the universal U-PASS, students were in discussion with transit officials and government officials. One challenge is that the prime negotiating period is during the summer months, which is a difficult time to get student opinions. But that was anticipated as a role for students and Transportation Services would be supportive of that. One thing you can do as this year closes is to make appointments early in terms of the Advisory Board and consider the availability for those individuals to be involved during the summer months to have a student voice in place. Kevin Shotwell says he has a series of questions. What proportion of the normal fare does U-PASS cover? Christina Xiao says on average, the program covers $2 per ride. Kevin Shotwell says thank you, and asks if the committee considered charging students based on usage.

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Katherine Sims says they haven’t considered that, there would be some logistical issues and it wouldn’t really be the same service because there could only be a minimal discount. Josh Kavanagh says that was discussed at the beginning of the universal program because of the fact that it reduced student leverage in terms of contract negotiation and diminished access. Currently it’s a universal right to ride at a flat fee, which students supported. There is also a technical challenge associated with that. Kevin Shotwell asks in the average quarter for the median student, how many trips and how much money is used? Josh Kavanagh says he’s not sure on that one. There are 6 million and some rides annually but he couldn’t speak to median use. Katherine Sims says they do know that 99% of students use the U-PASS and 94% are happy with it. Kevin Shotwell says GPSS academic student employees are no longer required to purchase the UPASS and asks how many ASE’s have opted out of the program. Josh Kavanagh says ASEs, while they can receive a rebate from the administration associated with non-use, they are still paying the fee. Kevin Shotwell says there’s been discussion about allowing certain groups not to participate in the program. He asks if the board will be moving forward with that, particularly regarding students who are outside of the U-PASS area. Katherine Sims says they considered that last year and came to the conclusion it wouldn’t keep the program as feasible. The most important thing is we all benefit from U-PASS whether or not you use it. For example, if you drive to school there are more spaces. It also improves our reputation and there will always be students using the U-PASS improving the University. It’s still a reward for those students. Kevin Shotwell says he understands that using transit services makes up the plurality. Has the board reevaluated the sustainability of an optional U-PASS given that it is becoming so essential to many students? Katherine Sims says no, but she’s going to assume it would still be the best choice to keep it universal. Josh Kavanagh says the intensity of their use is what would drive the unsustainability of an opt-in use. Those who benefit from the program more indirectly would start to leave at certain price points. That’s what we saw prior to the institution of the universal program. Kevin Shotwell asks how the U-PASS fits into association’s goal of making education more affordable. For those of us with student loans, we’ll be paying about double by the end. Does the sponsor see a fundamental disconnect between ideals of affordability and this mandatory fee? Katherine Sims says no, quite the opposite. The Advisory Board discussed affordability, when they heard there would need to be an increase. That’s not what students want to be hearing right now.

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Ultimately, though, this fits very well in line with student priorities, including environmental sustainability. Taking the bus is more affordable than driving. Also regarding Prop 1, the passage is increasing our service. Yes, it’s an increase, but what it gives us is worthwhile. There’s a difference between what we get from the U-PASS and what we’re getting from student loans. Also this is a student-run program that was created because we see the value. If we stop seeing the value, we can do away with it, but as students we see the benefit. Aram Ambartsumyan asks if the faculty and staff U-PASS will also increase. Josh Kavanagh says yes, but it’s important to note that those are separately funded. The projection as of today is that theirs will go up $18 this year alone, about a 13.5% increase if he remembers. Aram Ambartsumyan asks why UW Tacoma students pays $45 for their UPASS despite having the same resources available. Katherine Sims says it’s mostly about different rates, and we’re getting different services in our bigger area. Josh Kavanagh says the fundamental difference is that the intensity of utilization is different on those campuses. Savings is about 200$ per student here. The reason for the saving is that the U- PASS doesn’t exist as a metro product. It takes fewer rides to build a pass in Tacoma because people ride less there and it’s the same for Bothell. Adam Griffis moves to put the resolution on second readings. Seconded Objection Adam Griffis says it seems like this is time sensitive, and he thinks we could vote on it tonight. Kevin Shotwell says he would note that this is debatable. He would object because this is something we’ve known we’d have to deal with but a problem of timing isn’t a reason to rush. This is also one of the most important things we will consider this year. The legislation should receive full committee deliberation. This is a process he would like to hear from stakeholders about along with more information from sponsors. He would hope to see this resolution in Off-Campus Affairs. Hailey Badger says it doesn’t have to pass this week, it’s not that time sensitive, and she agrees with some of Kevin’s points. Adam Griffis withdraws his motion. Katherine Sims says we really should make a decision by next week, because in the memorandum of understanding, it designates by next quarter we need to have made a decision. Otherwise the transportation services will not know if we still want the U-PASS to exist. Thomas Crowe moves to refer to the Off-Campus Committee at the end of first readings. Seconded Seeing no objections, the motion passes.

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Nikhil Pailoor says as it stands there is a state legislature debate regarding allowing Sound Transit more flexibility over their funding measures. Will that have an impact on technicalities of the U- PASS? Katherine Sims says the increase will not change immediately. Josh Kavanagh says the results of the bill in Olympia should have no impact on the U-PASS for the period we’re discussing. It will mostly affect their ability to raise revenue. Kaitlyn Zhou asks if there will ever be a limit where the price will not be efficient. Katherine Simss says that’s a valid concern, but as she showed we’re saving about 200$ per student currently, so that would have to be a pretty big increase. She would predict no, and if that were the case, we would reevaluate it. Kaitlyn Zhou says she was referring to perhaps paying for services we don’t need. Katherine Sims says we will continue surveying students and changing the service based on their needs. Erin Nguy says the U-PASS is a great thing, but Katherine mentioned a whole bunch of other services like Car2Go and Zipcar are both included, as well as water taxis and ferries. Did you ever consider cutting those to lower prices? Katherine Sims says we don’t currently cover the ferries. Some students might not use water taxi or Car2Go or bike services or Night Ride, but it does balance out, she thinks. Overlap is something that the Board will take into account. Josh Kavanagh adds that the benefits with other providers are inconsequential in terms of cost structure. Katherine Sims agrees and says we are trying to make students more aware of what they can use. Kevin Shotwell says he believes it’s $2 per ride or so? Josh Kavanagh says rides vary based on time of day, zones, and which service is being used. Kevin Shotwell asks if giving students an unlimited U-PASS creates a sort of tragedy of the commons. For example, not walking and taking the bus a short distance instead. He asks whether it would be possible to structure the program to get rid of that problem. Katherine Sims says they don’t track exactly where students go. The Advisory Board has talked about that. They did one campaign they did called ‘you’re almost there’ encouraging students to walk when they can. There’s no benefit to aimlessly ride bus around the city, so most people are using it reasonably. Thomas Crowe asks what alternative options students have if we take objection to the new rates. Katherine Sims says the option is going back to the board and attempting to change the rate. We’ve already done that and this is the best option Transportation Services gave us. We can dissolve the

12 program, but other than that, we have virtually no options. As a Board we certainly looked at all the options, and this is really the best one. Roy Taylor moves to move end first readings. Seconded Objection Roy Taylor says just in the interest of respecting everyone’s time it would be nice to adjourn soon. That is the motive. Kevin Shotwell says he still saw members of the Senate with questions and his constituents would have some as well. He encourages a no vote. Nikhil Pailoor asks if we are supposed to make opinion statements. Brady Begin explains Kevin Shotwell was referring to the motion, not the legislation. There is a voice vote on ending first readings, and the ayes have it.

Thomas Crowe moves to adjourn. Seconded Objection Thomas Crowe says it’s 7, he has things to do, as does everyone else. Forrest Taylor says we need a clicker vote anyway. There is a voice vote on adjournment, and the ayes have it.

ANNOUNCEMENTS 7:01 pm

Thomas Crowe says the QSC is still looking for individuals to take part in their Drag Show. Contact him or Mitchell Chen if you have any interest. Kay Fuhlman asks if girls can do it. Thomas Crowe says yes. Christina Xiao says for those interested, the U-PASS Advisory Board meets every Tuesday for the next few weeks in the HUB. There is a 5 minute public comment period at each meeting. Timmy Bendis says he’s hosting dodgeball on Friday. Brett is coming, he’s a minor celebrity. Go to the link on the Obscure Sports Facebook page for more information.

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Arielle Menn says to vote for RCSA candidates. She won’t tell you to vote for Aram but Jessa probably will. Bryce Kolton says liaisons have gotten e-mails from Oversight. Everyone is required to report back. Check your e-mail.

ADJOURNMENT 7:03 pm

There is a clicker vote on adjournment. 59.5.3

Adjourned: 7:04 pm

Minutes Prepared by Kim Lowe Administrative Assistant to the Student Senate

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