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HA Wednesday 20 June 2018 Wednesday 20 June 2018 The Speaker, Ms Hickey, took the Chair at 10 a.m. and read Prayers. QUESTIONS Alleged Dishonesty of Premier Ms WHITE question to PREMIER, Mr HODGMAN [10.02 a.m.] Yesterday, when you lied without hesitation about being in the room when the Liberal Party voted to sell the ABC - Mr FERGUSON - Point of order, Madam Speaker. In case the Opposition Leader is not aware, such a claim can only be made by way of a substantive motion and not by grandstanding in her question. Ms O'Byrne - He came in and said it. Mr FERGUSON - He did not. Madam SPEAKER - I will be upholding that point of order. It is unparliamentary to refer to someone in such a manner and I ask you to rephrase the question. Ms WHITE - Thank you, Madam Speaker. Premier, without hesitation, you failed to tell the truth yesterday about being in the room when the Liberal Party voted to sell the ABC. The ease with which you were dishonest is alarming and is part of a pattern of behaviour. This year, you were dishonest when you spoke to a Sydney Morning Herald reporter about poker machines going out to tender. They are not. You were dishonest when you told Tasmanians your proposed gun law changes would not breach the firearm agreement. They do. What else are you being dishonest with Tasmanians about and, given your history, how can Tasmanians believe anything you say? ANSWER Madam Speaker, it is a little rich coming from a member who constantly comes into this place and often prefaces a question with a mistruth. This member shows no hesitation in saying and doing anything to create some sort of political mischief. The record of the Leader of the Opposition is not a strong one and that was reflected in the vote in March this year. Members interjecting. Madam SPEAKER - Order. I am not in the mood for all the toing and froing. I expect more parliamentary discipline. I will be naming people or shaming people or whatever else I have to do, if necessary. This is an important part of parliament and I expect you to respect this time. Mr HODGMAN - The voters of Tasmania drew their conclusions well and truly by election night. They worked out there was something not quite right in this Opposition, which lacked 1 20 June 2018 substance. They are all style but they lack substance and were not able to cogently put a case forward that they are able to govern this state. What we are seeing today is another example of that. Mr O'BYRNE - Point of order, Madam Speaker. It goes to relevance. The question was about the Premier misleading parliament and about his integrity and honesty, which he clearly lacks. I ask you to direct him to answer the question. Madam SPEAKER - As you would know, Mr O'Byrne, I am unable to direct anyone to answer the question. I ask that the Premier stick to the question. Mr HODGMAN - Madam Speaker, coming from the member who still has a big cloud hanging over his head about some union funds he used to support a campaign two elections ago is equally as rich and galling. Tasmanians made their decision about integrity, competence, a plan for our state and that was reflected in the vote this year. It has been affirmed this week that this Opposition lacks substance. This is a diversion from their inability to produce an alternative budget or to outline a vision and they are not prepared to say what they stand for. Yesterday was a classic example of a leader lacking substance, well supported by her colleagues. I have made clear what occurred yesterday and I corrected the record. I apologised. What I was doing was focused and very much connected to my devices in preparing for a speech, to do a number of things. Mr O'Byrne - If you were in the room you would vote against it, but you were in the room and you did not. Mr HODGMAN - First, to fight for Tasmania to receive its share of the GST. Only last week, members opposite - Ms O'Byrne - I would have voted for the mighty ABC. Madam SPEAKER - Order. I remind my parliamentary colleagues of standing order 146. No interruptions are allowed while another member is speaking unless it is a point of order, want of a quorum, or the presence of strangers in the House. Ms O'BYRNE - Point of order, Madam Speaker. You asked the Premier to address the question and he needs to talk about whether he is being honest with this House on any day. Madam SPEAKER - Ms O'Byrne, with due respect, I am not certain what is going to come out of the Premier's mouth at the moment. Mr HODGMAN - I was doing what they demanded me to do last week, which was to stand up for Tasmania's fair share of the GST. I was also taking the chance to advocate Tasmania's case to be the nation's energy powerhouse. I was also highlighting that Tasmania's economy and budget are now in much better shape than they were when we came to government. These are the sorts of issues I am focused on. All members opposite are focused on is political playtime. 2 20 June 2018 ABC - Liberal Party Call to Privatise Service - Position of Premier Ms WHITE question to PREMIER, Mr HODGMAN [10.08 a.m.] How can Tasmanians trust you? Yesterday, you blatantly and without flinching misled this House. You said you were not in the room when the Liberal Party voted to sell off the ABC. Now you realise you were in the room, why were you also dishonest about how you failed to stand up for this institution Tasmanians love? You said yesterday, at the same time you misled the public about not being there, 'If I was, I would have voted in support of the mighty ABC'. Premier, why did you pretend to support the ABC and pretend you would stand up to your colleagues when you did nothing of the sort? ANSWER Madam Speaker, I will reaffirm my strong support for the ABC. I have stated publicly in the past my support for the ABC. I take the opportunity to do so again today, to note the observations of the Prime Minister when he said it will never be sold and nor should it. I totally agree with that position. I would stand up for that. I will stand up for the ABC. I will stand up for the GST. I will stand up for our state and I will do so when I am able. I was focused on matters, not so much this particular debate. What I will also do, and what Tasmanians can trust me and this team to do, is deliver a budget and a plan for our state; deliver on all our objectives to grow our economy, keep our finances in good shape, invest more into things people care about, such as our hospitals, our schools and our roads - supporting Tasmanians at risk and keeping cost of living pressures down. That is what we are focused on. That is what we took to the election, which we won and that Tasmanians trust us to deliver again in this four years of government. That is what the 2018-19 Budget is all about. ABC - Liberal Party Call to Privatise Service - Position of Premier Ms O'CONNOR question to PREMIER, Mr HODGMAN [10.10 a.m.] Just confirming: we are in parliament, you are here at the table, and we are debating the future of the ABC. Sound familiar? The Tasmanian Liberal delegation to the federal Liberal Council was 14 members who went to Sydney last week when the vote was passed to sell the ABC. According to your party's website, you, as the state parliamentary leader, are a member of the delegation. In parliament yesterday, you first said you were not there and your media Twitter account said that if you had been, you would have voted against the sale. An image of you at the table was published. Suddenly you were there but did not vote to support the ABC. Media reports confirm no member of the delegation voted against the sale and, indeed, the Tasmanian delegation erupted in applause. Premier, which one is it? Were you so out to lunch that you were unaware of the debate and the vote? Or were you lying low, hoping no-one would notice you and not have to take on Senator Abetz and your other hard right colleagues as they vowed to kill off the ABC? 3 20 June 2018 ANSWER Madam Speaker, I thank the member for the mirror image of questions from the Labor Party, which is not surprising and entirely predictable. I have explained my involvement in the Federal Council, which I never denied being at. It was reported in the papers on the weekend that I was there, making a speech in support of our state, putting our state very much at the forefront of national considerations, very much taking the opportunity to advocate for our state, as we are so often asked to do. Then, when we do it, they still complain about that. The Liberal Party is very democratic, much more than the Greens. At least we allow the media into our conferences. They are banned by the Greens. At least we have these conferences. Labor have delayed theirs. Ms O'CONNOR - Point of order, Madam Speaker.
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