THE SENATE OF DEBATES

OFFICIAL REPORT Wednesday, February 10, 2010 (58th Session) Volume II No. 02 (Nos.01-15)

CONTENTS

Pages 1 Recitation from the Holy Quran……………… 1 2 Questions and Answers…..………..…………. 2-34 3 Leave of Absence……….…………………….. 35 4 Ordinances Laid………………………………. 36 5 Point of Order: A Baseless Report from Agencies...... 37-44 6. Commendation Resolution for Pakistani Athlete…. 45-49 7. Legislative Business: Further Discussion on Transplantation of Human Organs and Tissues Bill 2009………………….. 50-61 8. Discussion on Law and Order Situation in the Country…………………………………………….. 61-72

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Volume II SP. II(02)/2010 No.02 130

SENATE OF PAKISTAN SENATE DEBATES Wednesday February 10, 2010

The Senate of Pakistan met in the Senate Hall (Parliament House) Islamabad at forty nine minutes past four in the evening with Mr. Chairman (Mr. Farooq Hamid Naek) in the Chair. ------Recitation from the Holy Quran ‰ ş ‚ ‰ ‰ ‰ Ê ‚ ‰ª Ê ª  ‚ ‰ ƒ„ Ê „ª‚ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ Ć ‰Ê‚ ş Ć Ć  ‚ ‰ Ê ‰ ‰ ‰ ‚ ‰  „6ª 07Ğ04 8 ‚ ‚ ‚‚ ‚ ‚ /012  &3ª "Ğ$4 5*‹ ‰  ‚  ‚   ‚‚‚ ‚  ‚ ‚ ⁄"Ğ$%& ' (‹ "ª ª*& ⁄ª ª+$& ⁄ª « "ª -ª‚„„ ‚  „ ‚„ „ ‚‚..‚  ‚ş  „‚‚‚‚   ‚‚ „  „  ‚ ª ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‚ ‰ ‰ ‰‰ş ‚ ⁄ + ‚ ‚  ‚ ⁄9>&  µ@A B ‚  „ „  ‚ ‚ ‚‚ ;*1& ⁄ª æ ª ⁄07& &3ª - Ÿª ‚ „‚‚ ‚  ş  ‚ ‚  „ ‚ ‚ ‚   ‚ ‚   39ª 07‹ ª25: &3ª‚‚  ‚‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚  „ ‚   ‰ F"GĞ 6ª ⁄ª H%" 5( I& ; 4 5(  ‹‰ ‚ ‰B K ‰ ‰ ‰ ‚ ‰  07ª Eª (‹ B‰ ‰ æ' 6ª Cª ⁄ 4 6ª µ@* ª&· ş ‰‰‚ ‰ ‰ ‚ ‡Â ‚ ‚ ‚ 8   ‚ „ ‚ „ ‚  ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚  ‚‚ „ ‚  „  ‚ ‚ „ ‚ ‚ 8‚‚‚ ‚  ‚ 8 ‚  „‚   ‰ 07ª‚  ‚ ş  N N J N J 8 9 c 7 J ] ^_ TU G > @LMP a@bBde @@L O `=L D@ZC5E\ =@<@3Q V L [ @L P @3E H ( WX Y) 3V@SE Q @LO BQR @LM P @ICEFK@3E H@AB@CD EFG @@?;< = : 3567 4 9 J N J N N \ ] \ m O J @qr6 @BG @Z=@LJ O @<@SQ ETUQ @Ln p j @BQR Lol n\ @L [ @Z=@ABJ D @B6 K @bh=@@?fi @LO C@f6j G @SEETl @gCb`=@f k G @Z=@bh=@LJ i @S T H C 6j J J 8 N J J } Tk J 9 J D TH r\ J 8 @Ln| ( SE @ZC5E\ =@LP n = )B6K@Cy @v4G @wBoz{ @bhXY @B G @Z=@xfC z O @u= @B t ( Li @SE Cb`=@qk 6 @BG @Z=@bh= ) @Cs\ @CE H Cb`= k N } 8 c TU |€ TU TU7 r\ J T U @vbC 5Q]@3E H @3V @SE Q @LO B@LQR d~ @3@SE H EQ @L O 4@wC@v4@BG•6 9 6K @AB@•h@C D E F G @@?SEQQ @LO Bd6 @B 6 K @q6 @B G @Z=@bh=@S E 8 8 J m 8 J N J 8 _ G 8 G D ‡} TU TH ƒ O @B O@B@CQR Fd b@ŠEF{ =@f @@ˆC„ ‰@fk @xf C z O@u=@† @B6K @?@L…R @=4 69@SE Q @LO 4 G@3E H @ICEFK @B 6K ? Li @SE C@‚6j @L [ @BC 6O „ J m J J J J J J 8 ‡} 9 T 8 D @† @B6K @bh=@@?L…R @•=h@L P C 6j bh=( )@•=h@LP • @•h@bh=@?L…R @•=h@L O `=@bhXY @Ž• h ( =BQR @CEFG @b‹ Œ{)@C• @@xf C z O@u= 8 J 8 J 8 m 8 8 J ’ N 8 8 J ’ L~O @L [ @ZCl67 @vbC • @BO @xfD C zO@u=@”• @L~O @?L…R @CH 4G @‘P‡ LMPD @L G @vŠH C “@q@Ln]Q P9 =@B@OL…R @CH 4G @‘ P‡ ? @L…R @@=h4 e9 J 8 8 8 •D 8 6CH1@ˆCEH `=@@ˆB6PpF =@•bB t

1 Questions and Answers šK 7 ™6O J N J We may now take up @? |’ ž ! ‘6K Cœ @ ZC j @ ‘ 6 E T ¢ =Š6F¡ @ any one on his behalf?@‘C6 K œ @aB› @3• Ÿ @ questions. c c ?SET§ 4e9 @question number @Lol n\ @˘L… R @No.11 I=Bt @C• @ˆ`=@e ˘SET¦ @¥4e9 @Question number 11. *Senator Abdul Haseeb Khan: Will the Minister for Industries and Production be pleased to state whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to provide incentives for revival of sick industrial units and those units which have been closed down due to the prevailing energy crisis? Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani: Ministry of Industries and Production has already taken up the matter on priority basis and made a plan for the revival of sick industrial units in the country with the consultation of SMEDA, Provincial Industries Departments and private sector i.e. Chambers of Commerce and Industry etc. 2. Recently Ministry of Industries and Production through Small and Medium Enterprises Development Authority (SMEDA) took an initiative for revival of sick industrial units initially in NWFP and subsequently for replication of the concept in the other three provinces. Data of sick industrial units was collected from across Pakistan through provincial offices of SMEDA, Provincial Industries Departments, various Chambers of Commerce & Industry and Trade Associations. In order to ascertain the causes and possible way forward, SMEDA Officials held meetings with the representatives of Chambers of Commerce & Industry, Trade Associations and Industrial Estate Associations etc. 3. In NWFP ten (10) sick industrial units have been revived with the worth of Rs. 85 Million and generating employment for more then 300 persons. In addition to these five (5) other units are

2 in pipe line with more then 60% of there issues have been resolved with concerned organizations. 4. The revival of sick industrial units is undertaken as per Government policy explained below:ê The problems faced by Sick Units are duly considered by the concerned Government agencies and necessary incentives provided by adopting one or more of the following measures:ê (a) Reduction in fix charges of electricity bills. (b) Tariff in respect of products and raw materials is appropriately reduced or increased. (c) Loans are re-scheduled / re-structured keeping in view the merits of each unit. (d) Payment of utility bills and other dues is allowed in installments. (e) Easy installments of outstanding dues.

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4 chaos and destruction of all our industry and our trade? Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Yes, Minister sahib. J J 8 \ \ J 8 J @•aB6K B { @LMPD @L G @L O 4@Gclear @BG @¹=@˘Cs\ @Z=4J ‡6 @B6 K @C • @q ž6•6 !@ˆC6 F6K :fº =ba@u= @ŽE9 `=@ˆC6 F6K J 8 J } ] ËT¢{ 8 ‡’ Tk 8 @q =@•h@˘L…R @qQ b@4G @wC• @4@ZhaCe 9 E F T6H @‚ @4 e9 projects @ÊoF @C@S@EH E rental powers @‘{ B pj 8 ] 8 @¹=@@3V @Sa@CE9 F69 @BG @ˆ`=@

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9 Shahabuddin (Minister for Health) : The anti- rabies vaccine that was available upto December, 2009 was the old sheep brain vaccine that was given as 14 injections in the abdomen. This has now been replaced by the new Cell Culture Rabies Vaccine given as five injections given in the arm. The supply of this new vaccine has started in the last week of January, 2010 and so far over 6,000 doses have been supplied to different government hospitals. The present demand of Anti-rabies vaccine and Anti-snake venom serum is annexed. Annexure District wise statement showing the demand and supply of ARV/ASV Sindh Province For the Period 1st January

2009 to 31st December, 2009 S. #. Name of District Demand Issued Demand Issued ARV Vials ARV Vials ASVS Vials ASVS Vials 1. Khair Pur 3150 475 2440 605 2. Larkana 7610 655 1000 100 3. Tando Muhammad Khan 2100 220 80 80 4. Tando Allah Yar 2270 490 350 185 5. Sukkur 2305 1087 190 100 6. Ghotki 602 92 15 5 7. Karachi 80 55 20 20 8. Kamber 2470 570 900 570 9. Badin 2798 380 4150 750 10 Thatta 4680 510 4115 655 11 Dadu 6750 983 2600 470 12 Nesharo Feroze 730 130 250 50 13 Sanghar 5260 490 3410 640 14 Mir Pur Khas 7150 495 5840 710 15 Umer Kot 1135 195 16615 2585 16 Shahdad pur 105 70 30 20 17 Kashmor 385 145 20 20 18 Jacobabad 1450 485 225 145 19 Shikar Pur 3000 775 1020 405 20 Nawab Shah 1000 30 1200 145 21 Jamshoro 400 50 200 50 22 Jacobabad 510 295 50 50 TOTAL 55940 8677 44720 8360

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11 Apart from that, he is also a religious scholar. I have the greatest regards for him, certainly I have very great regards for him. J N J Tl\ 8 Gm º T k c c demand and @L…R @SEE @ˆC@f6H @”• @fB@SG @¹=@˘L …R @CEFG @I=B@3@LtE H O @‘C6 K œ @h‹B@X’ t —V =a J TU TU ] J 9 8 Tk @˘SE Q @locally manufactured @3@SE H E Q @qQ b@S@ 6 vaccines @B6K @3@?L…E H R @ï‹@•aCb@‘» EH ^6\ @S E @supply J N 8 m c ] º 8 T TJ T \ ] @ZC• B@@LMGPD @L G @L O C4@B@ § 69 G facility @¹=@@<@L…QR @f`=@‘B{p j @3@LE H [ @‘6 6 K @?SE k @NIH @SEEUQ @LOE CF69 @S l @< Q J N _ ši 8 r \ J c TU ] TU @•=h@LO BQR @install @½e‡ @‘6[ @˘L…R @q @B@bCQR EF9 @ˆ=@q6 6 @ÕŠH ¿ 6H @ZCQU h@bh=@SE Q @L…R b@4G @addition @

12 J 8 ccc c c c m \ J c c c @ŽG X—• a@ha=a@˘L…R @Ž G X —• a@hbBÁ{ C6j @?L… R @S ETl @q ]Q @wC@C@ŽXH • G —• a@¹=@?SETUQ @LO B@QRcases @vbC • J 8 98 D J c T k T U 8 J ?Li @S4@ˆC=Š=@CEG kF„E G @LM PG @L @Z=@B@‘CG 6 K œ @X—¢ @S EQ @L O C F 6 9 @ÝoÅ @B@3@˘L… 6 K E H R c J c c N J ?‘6 K Cœ @X—¢ Tk @q67 @Please sit down. ! ‘6 K Cœ @X—V =a@ : SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J c J c c 8 |’ J m J @=4@L69 O[ @ZB^\ =@bh=@L @‘6K Cœ @X—V =a@L… R @ÇabŠ 5 Q] @‘ ^ 6 \ @L~ d ! ˆC6 F6K @:SJ E9 Š=@ˆC¦6 l} @whŠ • ’ J J N J K Tl\ J JJ T k J J òÛ @LO @ZBB@SiD6 @SEE @C@C@Zha@=XEEEHyÀ @B@Z=@C G FG @S @3V @L… R @4C@CC‹@C@Z=@q9 6 jHk•» =h@?L… R @C F G @I=B t @relevant J J o• òÛ |’8 Tl\ ž Å | ’ 8 8 T k J @Lo¢ @¹=@q =h@L~ d @˘@Cs\ @SEE @< @L~ d @ZB@CQR FRQ C@ˆbŠe j z{ @S ! ˆC6 F6K @?L…R @CE H a @4G @omit @BG @districts8 @bC ej J J J 8 J O 7|’ 8 TTp\ ž Å JD r \ º š‡î T 23 @3@q@3@CE H6 V l_ @LO @ZB^\ =@L~ d @˘C s\ @SEEEl @S@< k @vXE —Ó @SEF @q @LM… P R C@f=4@íe j G E @ÇbB@SeO k ?SETUQ @districts Mr. Chairman: His simple question is why the omission has been made. Makhdoom Shahabuddin: Sir, I will go and punish them according to his instructions. Mr. Chairman: OK. Good. (Desk thumping)

Mr. Chairman: Haji Adeel Sahib. J J 8 ’ 8 J ’ c [ @C@ZByde7 B@Le O [ @‘6 K C œ @4bh@wXE9 —• @L [ @‘C × • h@f G @ˆ`=e ! ˆC6 F6K @:‚Š@ŠEH Å 5 | @qC67 j @X —FE TEF J 8 J c G J J T T\ m T 7 @WXY @ demand @f@Z=@3ÒH BEPG @SEEEUQ @S l @LPG @L D =h@L P 9 C@ŠC@S@•EH • k q=4@3e G V @L…R @3@E H information @3 V 8 J 8 T 7 š‡ó T r\ @B@SO E k @q=4@˚L…e G R @íE @ information @3@CE H FG @˘SE V @ 55 vials @LO @ˆ`=@e issue @bh=@q @ 80 vials E J 8 J c 8 ??????LG @ZBo¢O @fG @Ö‹× @Ö‹ × @˘SETUQ @L PDPG @L =h@L 9 C• @vbC • @‘ ^6 \ c J 8 J \ T\ T 7 7 J N K J @”E Fd @X6 —Ð @¹CeH@LG @ˆ`=@4@L…eÜk P R b@SEEl @S k @q=4@ˆ`=e G e ! ‘C6 K œ @qC@6 j :SETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K J J 8 \ 8 ˚C@L…H PR b@SEETl @B@SO T k @qe7 =4G @ˆ`=@@?L…e R J J ’ c T [ ?L…R @ÝoÅ @ˆ=B6 6K @3E H @:‚Š@ŠEH Å 5 | @qC67 j @X —FE EF ‡EšD J N K J ˚C• @ˆ`=@L…e R @CE F G @I=Bt ?LM P ~ @½eK Be O @I=B t @:SETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K

13 8 8 J c J DJ \ G 9 ’ 7 c T [ @LMPG @L @Z=@3@LV dPD @L @L =h@L P C@•80 @WX@CY EFG @3V @L…R @3@I=BE H t @:‚Š@ŠEH Å 5 | @qC6 j @X —FE EF N i J ˚SETF @qÔ H C@kvials \ N J ?LM~P‡E a@va@ˆ=B6 6K @C• @‘6 K C œ @q67 C j @q67 @ : SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J šG 8 J m J @?Cy @Zh4G @æ‹ç @qr6 @‹ d e\ @SETk @BO @ˆ=B6 6 K @C • @I=B t @LG @Z=J ! ˆC6 F6K @ :SJ E9 Š=@ˆC¦6 l} @whŠ • ’ 8 JJc 8 JJ8 ’ J 8 8 TTkUQPDPPG 9 T V T l\o { d | T l \ Gresearch O Tk O9 P G @S@?SEEEE @L @L =h@L C@L• @ZCh@3@SQ UV @ˆCB k z @L~ @bh=@S8 @f@ @L @SE @B@4@ZBe äåO J T o• 7 ?C@ZBC@‚yjQR e EF @Š‹@S@LEH’ E k o¢ @¹=@L [ @‘C 6 K œj @qC6 Mr. Chairman: Next question, Khalid Mahmood Soomro sahib. 13. *Senator Dr. Khalid Mehmood Soomro: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) the number of Hepatitis patients in the country with province-wise break up; and (b) the steps taken by the Government for provision of free of cost medicines to the poor patients? Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) In FY 2007-08; a seroprevallence survey of Hepatitis B & C was conducted through Pakistan Medical Research Council, where in the magnitude of the problem in the country is:ê 1. Hepatitis B = 2.5% (4,000.000) 2. Hepatitis C = 4.9% (7,840.000) 3. As per information collected from 152 sentinel sites established across the country, a total 51,822 patients of Hepatitis C & 8,270 patients of Hepatitis B have been registered and provided free of cost treatment so far.

14 Province-wise break up is as under:ê Sr. Province Number of Hepatitis C Number of Hepatitis B No. patients patients 1 Punjab 23,837 2650 2 Sindh 16,862 3,427 3 NWFP 4,064 771 4 Balochistan 1,747 613 5 FATA 577 161 6 FANA 308 133 7 AJK 588 163 8 Federal Area/ICT 3,839 352 Total: 51,822 8,270 (b) The following steps have been taken by Government for provision of free of cost medicines to the poor patients of Hepatitis B&C. ö The Federal Government has established 152 sentinel sites across the country for provision of free of cost medicines to the poor patients of Hepatitis. ö The Federal Government has provided free of cost medicines to 32,998 patients of Hepatitis C and 6,720 patients of Hepatitis B. ö The Provincial Government of Punjab has extended free of cost treatment to 8,824 poor patients of Hepatitis C. ö The Provincial Government of Sindh has extended free of cost treatment to 10,000 poor patients of Hepatitis C and 2000 patients of Hepatitis B.

15 ö The Provincial Government of NWFP and Balochistan have also developed their PC-I for provision of free of cost treatment to poor patients of Hepatitis. ö The Honourable Prime Minister of Pakistan, announced strategy to take steps for åPrime Ministerãs Emergency Action Plan on Hepatitisç. The Ministry of Health has prepared a revised PC-I costing Rs. 13.783 billion and the same has been submitted to Planning Commission for consideration. The revised PC-I includes provision of free of cost medicines to 1,02000 poor patients of Hepatitis B&C and free PCR facilities for poor deserving patients. Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary? N J 8 ] º 8 J } r \ |’ J cc c T [ anti-Cs\ @I=B@<=@fCt Q l š 9 =@”=@Ö‹@qE H × =@q6 @3E H : h‹B’ t @aB › @ŠC¦ j @X—V =a@X —FE EF J J J ’ G @4K `=@LG @IC• @3V @L… R @CE F G @•Šh@4@Å e 9 floor @LO @‘6K Cœ @whŠ • @˘Ö‹@f× @I=Bt @L G @anti-rabies @bh=@snake J N 8 m T Q]i Î k 8 @Hepatitis @”@ZCH ly¢67 @?CB@3@u=@¸CQR E H O =@@3 V @L…R @ŠEF{ =@SE 5 @˘f @L O C@Ça@4@‚6 j G 5 @demand @ÇbBeO @” H J J 8 8 J J 8 8 ] 8 JJšTV G 8 Tk o O @LG @L O 4@<=‹@ˆCha=@B@Z=@˘L…G QE»EH G R @q @a=ŠzO @f @ZB ä O ‹@Z=@3 ’ V @C ss\@Ce 7 B@LeOO @S@ZCE lE\ @B@L… O R @¼z @C • J 8 J J 9 TTk U8J pTFD U 8 äåO _ ] D @LnP =@WX@SYE @˘S EQ{Q @ˆCBk5oz @ÇbC] Q @B 6 K @SE @S E @Ça@ˆ‰E F @½e ‡ @LO @ZB ^ \ =@?L… R @qb@4@CQ G E F•G@bC X À @LM P J J Tk J TU 8 G @3@Ö‰@bh=@SH6 Å E @¥ŠF[ @3B6 H ¾ @LG @ Hepatitis @SE Q @ cases @•aCb@LEH [ @½G •@ 20 @3V @Cy @Zh4G @ˆC@f6 H @L~O B ¾ J 8 J J JK T k š 9 G _ 8 TsÎEH @B@SG6 @L…R @SE @ˆC6 6• e @a=Šz O @f@ZB ä EO ‹@’2,650 @˘L…R @<@‘^6\ @3V @L i @SE a@ˆ`=@?L…e R @4=4@L69 6 9 G @L O B QR J J O _ 8 Tk J @†E ‹@½’ G •@20 @?L…R @<@‘^6\ @3@˘SE HE @¥ŠF[ @3B6 H ¾ @L… R @Cb@C@Ca@Ö‰@B@ZBQU6 jE H 6 ÅE G ä O ‹@’3,427 @˘L…R @Cb@CQU6 j @CE H a@Ö‰6 Å m 8 } r \ TU º 8 \ @=ha@BG @ZB i B@qD bCù[ @q6 @3@SEEHEQ @f`=@ˆCha=@BE H 6 K @3@‹ H de @bh=@B G @3,427 @C@BEH G @2,650 @WXY @Lo k @Ö‰6 ÅQ @bh=@ZB R J J 8 c 8 NJ8 8 \ _ šÁ{ 8 @LO C§ 4@a=Š69 zO @fG @ZBEP9 =ha@bh=@LM PGGD @L @˜b=Š@L H @¹=@?C F ok @SETl @½e‡ @B@ZBB@Ž‹ GiD 6 E9 ç@bh=@¼ ‡ @˘L… R @q šok N J N ši GJ { º D ˚L…R @q @f@ÇŠF69 @3B6 H äP @fB@C G EFG @LM P @L G c J N J ?‘C6 K œ @X—¢ Tk @q@67 : SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K

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18 were saying it was 14.5 million, they have reduced it by 2.5 million the following day. The same disease Hepatitis B&C which comes to only .40%. How on earth can he say that they are planning to encompass a greater population patients of Hepatitis B&C. Mr. Chairman: Thank you, yes Minister Sahib. Makhdoom Shahabuddin: Sir, the unfortunate aspect of all this exercise is that my learned friend is certainly very competent in so many ways and a man of many splendid actions also. The trouble is that he is slightly confused, you see when it comes true, the governmentãs efforts of taking care of this situation like É. (At this occasion journalists walked out) J J J T¦ 8 º J J J T N K J @CEFG @3V @@SE @4 G@CFkHe9 @4@C‹@fCX G » 6 È’ @‘6K C œj @ZC@Š=b@bh=@@@‘Q U6 K C œ @bŠ@X6 H E —ÌH C l 67 @:SE k X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K ?L…R @3¿k C z{ J J TJ T N eK J J J ’ c T [ @supplementary question @4@¹=@Se9 EEk @?S k X—FE @ˆC6 F6K @ :ZCj @Š=b@ŠQU 5 | @X —FE EF J J 8 TkJ T U 8 J ?L…R @@CEF•G @wC@‘^6\Q @4@¹=@Le9 O @SE @3ÒH BEPG @@S E @aB 6 K{ B@‘6 K C œFjH @4bh@˘ZB@CE 9Q R RQ C@C4e G J N N J ?‘6 K Cœ @4bh@q@?CE9 67 y @LO `=@supplementary question @C• @ˆ`=@e :SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J Tk J J m J ’ nobody should ever @ SE @ ICEFK @ vX E —Ó ! •=h @ ˆC6 F6K @ :SE9 Š=@ˆC¦6 l} @whŠ • 8 @”H @ZCl67 @ suspect as far as resolve of the government is concerned. JJJ 8 \|’ RQ \ 8 m m G O J @vXE —Ó @3@wBV oz{ @SEEETl @L~d @?S T FE C@Lej O B@SQ R T l @ˆC l6š[@h@˜Bp • @B G @q™ @SEQTk @¹=@L…R @¼ o z @C• @w‹ç @vbC 5 ] N 8 O J 8 m m ?fi @LO C6j @B@qQR ž¢ @fG @Z=@L[ @f i a4G bC• @ÇbC 5 QE] @?STUQ @ˆC l6š[@h@˜Bp • @ZBE PG @B G @C‹k » @w4 G m 7 J N K J ?36 FK Cœ @C4@q@E H 9 6 :SETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K J m c J Tk K O J 8 J 9 TF[ @Hepatitis C @SE @aC`=@‹6Hü•6 @bh=@aC`=@X 6 HE —Ï @L• ‰@LÅ G @ZC F Á eK Bo6 H @:SE Š=@X¦ E —Ó =@CEH 49 @X —FE E J 8 8 J J GRäEFQQQO ’J 6Tk Tk RR¡R\ ’À U T UQ8 ^6 \ E O ’ G @L @ZBJ ‹@Z=@?L… @‰ @SEE @¹=@•h@B@3e •6 @C@B@@ˆbBEEH @˘@B@a‹@=X ha@X@Q ?S @•aCb@‘ H @@†‹@L JJJm \ 8 N TÁl\Jp• p T l \ º TTT UlH \ D J K T U D @SEEEE @S6 =@˘LPD• @L @S @f=ha@@˘SQ @S @LMn@LM ÁPG @L @Ö‰ 6 Å@¹C@LeHG @S@36 V @SE Q @L… R b@4@CG E F G @3@LME H P 8 TU DJ p ˚SE Q @L…R b@4@CG EFG @3@LME H PG @L @Z=@˘L PD• @L

19 J N J ?‘6 K Cœ @4bh@qE9 67 @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J 8 •c c T k o• J J m J ’ @bh=@CsHk\ @CC‹@‚@LE » O @‘6 K C œk @”C@X¦ —V =a@SE @L o ¢ @¹= ! •=h@ˆC6 F6K @:SE9 Š=@ˆC¦6 l} @whŠ • c c J N 8 @L[ @‘6 K Cœ @”C@X¦ k —V =a@L O @SEETk @?S T UQ @SETH =ha@‘ü{ @@LMPD @L G @Hepatitis B&C@3V @L…R @policy @ÇbC 5Q] 8 8 J J |’ \ J @?Cy @Zha@=h4G @wC ìP9 =@C • @Ö‰6 Å @LG @Z=@SJ EETk @S 9 a@=h4 G @identify @†‹@LE O’d ~ @ˆ`=@3e V @qr @f G @æ‹ ç m N J ?@‘6 K Cœ @Ç4p¢D @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J m J J J Tk N eK J º N D 7 J c T [ @¹=@L…R @CEH `=@ˆ=B6 6K @B 6 K @C • @I=B t @˘SE X—FE @ˆC6 F6K @:fC¢ETH b@Ç4p¢ @qC6 j @XE —Ó @•a=4=B@X6 9O —FE EF 8 c T J The Provincial Government of NWFP and @ZB@CQR Fà 4@S@4@”=@Ce9E k 6 K E H • Balochistan have also developed their PC-I for provision of free of N 8 ] J @4@¹=@3e9V @SEETH CF69 @S T 5 Q @‘C6 K œ @4bh@E 9 cost treatment to poor patients of Hepatitis. J J J J K 8 ‡’ J ^\ J T j J ç @˘aC6H `=@‹ü•6 @čC œBäK @ districts @ÊoF @vbC5Q] @@3V @C l_ @LO @S6 @b‹ò{ @ÇXE —Ó @LM~@3 Á Ò H BEPG @@˚C@B@Š`=bŠ y Q R k ¿ 5 @Ž 6 G J _ J TU 9 O Tk re| š [ O @3@?SE H E Q @Ž‹@L6 E • G @ reported 2100 @†‹@LE ’ G @ Hepatitis B&C@SE @q @bh=@q6 @˘aC`=@X6H E —Ï m J iG €]Q G8 8 Fde\ G ˚f @B@ÄhXQERÀ @Ž6 @q =‹@f» @ˆCha=@‘EHü{ @B G @ZB ä O ‹@?L… ’R @Cb@‚Q UE @Ö‹ × @f @¸Ch6 H J N J ?‘6 K Cœ @4bh@qE9 67 @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K c N m THc T J J J m J @C• @ g CCHe F ETUQ @S@LE k • ‰@¹=@3@L…Å V R @¹b=4 i ! •=h@ ˆC6 F6K @ :SŠ=@ˆCE9 ¦6 l} @whŠ • ’ c 8J J N Tk T k o• òÛ @3@4@ZCE H e9 llyj•œ6 7 @ZC 6 7 @˘C@ZhC@½6 šET6H @½C \ @LG @‘6 K C @ˆ=B@S6 O EE @S @L o ¢ @¹=@?L… R @•aCb@qE H =h@incidence J 8 8 8 DJJ Tk D N { ?ZBQR @bCEF9 @LMPGO @L @L 4G @ZhC zO @½\ C • @L G @Z=@SE @LM PGR @L @¹=@L… @3 ¿FÁ J N J ?‘6 K Cœ @qžÅ @w‰@qC@Å 6 7 j :SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K m J J TJ T N eK J8 šK J ›7 ™ 6 O c T [ @SEEk @¹=@@?S k X —EF @ˆC6 F6K @34E H p• @‘^6\ @?

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23 N EšD J N J ?L~P‡ @4@Gquestion @ˆ`=e ! @‘6K Cœ @Š=b@Q U :SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J J J 8 J Tk J J ’ c T [ @CEFG @?L…R @ÝoÅ @‘@3@3@ZB@C6 [ EEH VQR FjH RQ C@C4@3@e G H question @ SE @ :ZC@Š=b@Šj QU 5 | @ X—FE EF J J 8 National @Z=@LJJGoPO @Z=@Ll\ n@LMTl’ @ha@L @S@3@SEETkV T UQ @L P p • @4@G Minister Sahib ensure J 8 c 8 šTH c @3@CV s\ @C l _ @L[ @Z=@@LJ O @S@ETk ˘SEEETUQ @LO B@LQR d M6 @Ç449 pEF[J @ha@L G @Z=@S@g@S@ T k6K T k programmes J J N J cJ 8 r\ š9 c ™ G T @ÝoÅ @3@ˆ`=@?L…E He R @Ça@ÇbC@3@@”@qy H H 6 =@˘L… R @qE a@ÇbC@B@q y G @ 4i =@LO @ˆ`=@3e V @SE H =h4 G @@ ensure J m m 9J º T U TeH @ˆ`=@3e V @L…R @authority @3@@@@¹C@LEEHeHFG @ˆ`=@Ce E G @@?S4@3@3@LEEG H H G @4@fCX G6 HÈE’ @?SQ @L… R b@4@@g G @bC 5 } ha=ŠÅ= @?SE9 4 G implement @BG @programmes @Z=@SJ ETk @ZB 6O B ¾ J N J ?‘6 K Cœ @4bh@Sa@va@ˆ=BE9 E9 6 6K @C • @I=B t @LG @Z=@J :SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K He is challenging the authenticity of the figures. 8 m 8 ™EO J _ TU J J 9 m J ’ @B@ˆC@qO 6H =@?L…R @ÝoÅ @½e‡ @‘6 [ @3V @SE Q @L… R b@C‹@3@3 k » EE HVH @@L… R @3@¹b=4@i:SE Š=@ˆC¦6 l} @whŠ • JJ m J J TU 8 Tk T k TT kl \ @3E H @SE Q @figures @@3@”@ZCE H H l67 @?ZBQR @Cb@4Q UG @æ‹ç @bC@bC@S6 HH 6 EEEE @bh=@CE F G @æ‹ ç @S @@ÄhXÀ @LO @S @@?L… R @S 8 J 8 @@?L…R @fº `=@L òO M ba@L G @ sentinel @•h@?L…R @fº BQR @L Á MTV @ study @@•h@?SETUQ @¼C6 O ì{ @LG @ figures study 8 8 8 8 c J ?L…R @CFoej @C Fe 9 @C@Z=@S • JJETUQ @L O B@XQR—¢ 6K b@B 6 K @?L… RòG @f`=@LMº O ba@L @Z=@That is our source. |’ Tk TU c 8 @½p¦ @L~d @SE @vbC@L6H G @¹=@honourable Senator @SE Q @L…R b@C‹k•y» @C @ÇbC @3@”@ZCE H H l 67 8 Þ 8 J ?ZBQR @CFE9 a@=h4G @wC ì P9 =@@SEETk @@S 9 a@va@4 G c c 7 \ N K J last question. ˘‘6 K Cœ @b=a@ïC • } =@q6 @?L…R @” E Fd @:SJ ETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K m J 8 €} TJ T N eK J 8 c ’ c T [ Minister @3@ZB@CVQR Fd6| @S@˘SXEEk k —FE @ˆC6 F 6 K @34E H p• @‘^6\ @ :b=a@ïC•} =@Š5| @X —FE EF J c J J R º T5Q] J T sÎEH \ _J _ T j @C• @Z=@@3V @LM…P Ce j @f4G @face @SEE @XE —eÐ @”=@SEEH a@@?CB@”yQ R F d @½e ‡ @3@½H e ‡ @3@CC‹@LM~@@L V E H k » Á O @Sahib J 11.84 million people are suffering from Hepatitis-B @3V @L…R @estimate @CFe9 = J K T U That @@L…R @Cb@C@CQU6 jE F G @treat @@BG @S6 @C@SEH E Q @patients registered @B6K @and C in the country. 8 \ @ˆCH 4e9 @@¹=@qr6 @‚• @is only 60 thousand. It is 0.5%. It is an alarming figure 6 8 N r\ º @?Cy BQQR @aCE H @B G @ˆ`=@@qe @f B R 8 Tkr\ • 7 J T N K J ?Cs\ @question SE @vbC6H @¹=@@q6 @‚ @ZC@qQ U 6 @:SE k X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K

24 8 J J • \m J \ c ’ c [ @bC• ba@< b@huge @@LMPD @L G @Z=@@3J V @qr @fG @¹b=4@Li O @SETk @q r 6 @‚@ • :b=a@ïC•} =@Š5| @X —FE TEF c @L…R @CQU b@¥469 @3E H @bh=@ government steps will not cater with this problem.@@bh=@L…R N J 8 TH8 T 5 Q] 8 J @SEE CF69 @S @‘C6 K œ @4bh@CE9 E F G @B O to the other people also.@L…R @CB@H QR pass on @3@3E H Ò H B EPG 8 r\ ] r\ J J @q6 @3@E H˘L…R @qb@B@Q QRdebate @BO @q6 =@˘L…R @figure @CFe9 =@C • @Z=@99 and a half percent @3V @L i JJD TU J pFD r\ _ @CEFG @C@Z=@LM • P @L G @Z=@SE Q @Ln p j @B@QR identify @B@@S6K E @L…R @ under estimated @q6 @3@˘L…E H R @< J ] @LMÁTV @B@Z=@LG J O @<@3Q V @There has to be clear road map with funds.@˚L…R @w=4i h4 e 9 J @?L…R @C H4G @treat J N J ‘6 K Cœ @4bh@E9 q67 @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J 8 \ €} J m J ?ZB@SQREETl @Cs6 | @I=B t @C • @Z=@B@@S O T k @@:SJ E9 Š=@@ˆC¦6 l} @whŠ • ’ 8 T _ N K J more allocations have to be made. @3V @SE QU @LP^ @3@E H :SJ ETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K Makhdoom Shahabuddin: More allocations, Sir he has been honourable Finance Minister of this countryÉ Mr. Chairman: This is a suggestion to you actually. Makhdoom Shahabuddin: Sir, good suggestion and he certainly knows there is resource constraint also. Insha Allah gradually there will be enhancement of the funds. Mr. Chairman: Next Question, Muhammad Talha Mehmood Sahib. Anyone on his behalf. J TTT\ ej cc T 7 c c ?SEEEEUl¿Q @S @˘S @@ÇŠEEFo6H @X—V =a@@˚Li @S s e B@ˆ`=@‘CeO e 6K œ @ÇŠ F o 6 H @X —V =a We come back to Question No.10, Muhammad Talha Mehmood Sahib. 10. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood: Will the Minister for Industries and Production be pleased to state: (a) the date on which salaries of the employees of Heavy Mechanical Complex were enhanced last time; and

25 (b) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to further increase the salaries of those employees, if so, when? Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani: (a) The salaries of Supervisory Staff and Executives of Heavy Mechanical Complex (HMC) were enhanced on 01-07-2008. (b) Last time salaries/benefits of workers/ workmen have been increased through bilateral negotiations with Collective Bargaining Agent (CBA) and to this effect a Memorandum of Settlement (MoS) was signed on 12-08-2009. It however took effect from 01-07- 2008 for a period of two years, which is valid upto 30-06-2010. J N šD c \ Þ ?L~P‡E @¥4@e9Question number ?X6 —5 @¹a@@‘6 K Cœ @Ý C j @q 67 J JJJ J \ J J m N T6‡\ c T [ ?ZC@L…H R @X6 —5 @•aBeK @:ZC@Šj 57 =@ŠE F [ b@”¿k @X—FEEEEF =@X —F F J JJ J \ m \Þ \ \ N J @SEEETl @?L…R @S T k @@ÄhXÀ @@?L… R @X6 —5 @¹a@‘6 K Cœ @ÝC@˘X j 6 —5 @¹a@q@S67 T l @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K 8 8 J c 8 J 7 T šK O \ J @‘C6 K œ @ZhbCQU @q6 @C s e 7 =@ ?SE QU @LMPT¦ @L D @Leave Application @@?@@< @g@L…6 R @”E Fd @˘@L… P R C@Cej F de 7 B eO please, please. J J ] 8 JJJ c T [ ?L…R @I=Bt @ÇbhXY @qQ @‘^6\ @:ZCj @ZhbCQ U @X —FE EF N šD c JJ N J ?Lol n@L~\ P ‡E @¥4@e9Question number @?bhXY @˘bhX Y @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K 14. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood: Will the Minister for Food and Agriculture be pleased to state: (a) the details of increase or decrease in yield of major crops in the country during the last five years with year-wise break-up; and

(b) the steps being taken by the Government to increase the yield of the said crops? Mr. Nazar Muhammad Gondal (Minister for Food and Agriculture) : (a) The details of increase or decrease in yield of

26 major crops in the country during the last five years from 2004-05 to 2008-09 is given below:ê Crops Year Yield (kg/hectare) Increase/ decrease

Wheat 2004-05 2586 (+) 8.98 % 2005-06 2519 (-) 2.59 % 2006-07 2716 (+) 7.82 % 2007-08 2451 (-) 9.75 % 2008-09 2657 (+) 8.40 %

Rice 2004-05 1994 (+) 1.22 % 2005-06 2116 (+) 6.12 % 2006-07 2107 (-) 0.43 % 2007-08 2212 (+) 4.98 % 2008-09 2347 (+) 6.10 %

Cotton 2004-05 760 (+) 32.87 % 2005-06 714 (-) 6.05 % 2006-07 711 (-) 42 % 2007-08 649 (-) 8.72 % 2008-09 713 (+) 9.86 %

Maize 2004-05 2849 (+) 42.24 % 2005-06 2984 (+) 4.74 % 2006-07 3037 (+) 1.78% 2007-08 3427 (+) 12.84 % 2008-09 3415 (-) 0.35 %

Yield (tons/hectare)

Sugarcane 2004-05 48.9 (-) 1.61 % 2005-06 49.2 (+ 0.61 % 2006-07 53.2 (+) 8.13 % 2007-08 51.5 (-) 3.10 % 2008-09 48.6 (-) 5.63 %

(b) Government has taken the following steps to increase the yield of wheat, Cotton and Rice production:

27 ö The government realized that the poor interest of farmers in the agriculture sector is due to lack of adequate incentives in agriculture. The Guaranteed Minimum Price (GMP) of wheat for 2009-10 retained at the last yearãs level of Rs.950/- per 40 kg inspite of declining trend in the world prices of wheat. To ensure fair return to the rice growers, the Government has announced the Intervention Price for procurement of paddy @ Rs. 1250/40 Kg for Super Basmati, Rs. 1000/40 Kg for Basmati-385 & Basmati-2000 and Rs 600/40kg for IRRI-6. ö Public and private sector is developing Joint Ventures with multinational companies and International Research Institutes for research and development of Hybrid and Bt cotton, hybrid rice, etc. ö Most productive Bt cotton varieties with resistance from insect-pests are being released from the next Kharif season on official basis to increase cotton production. Certified cotton seed availability is being ensured by the government. ö Stringent breeding work is in process for release of varieties resistant to cotton leaf Curl Virus (CLCV) è the biggest issue of cotton crop. ö World Class Research Institutes are being established for cotton and wheat in the country for Research & Development of these crops using modern techniques. ö To increase the cotton fiber quality, a Cotton Ginning Institute is being established in Multan with the objective to produce world class quality fiber from cotton. ö Transgenic Cotton Development Project is being initiated. ö All efforts are being taken by the government for availability of inputs (agricultural credit, irrigation water, fertilizers, seeds, weedicides, pesticides etc., to ensure high level of crops.

28 ö Emphasis is being given on proper plant protection measures using åBiological control methodsç against various insect pests and diseases of major crops. ö In order to improve various farming practices, Benazir Tractor Scheme and farm machinery, was introduced to provide 10,000 subsidized tractors with the subsidy of Rs. 2, 00, 000 / tractor. ö Availability of certified seed of improved varieties of wheat, paddy and cotton has been ensured by the government. Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary? Senator Haroon Khan: Yes, Sir. N N J G T JJ8 \ @LO B@LMQR P 9 a@figures @LG @b=h=ŠEFe9 @main f @crops SE k@ZCFHÁG C@Z=bha@LeG @IC •H @íCe e c m ’ crops wheat, cotton and @v4@L69[ @‘6 [ @3V @L… R @qb@`=@wX@4@@½]Q À G pEH a@L~ d | @bh=@S ETUQ 8 N 8 J J TU p 8 ši _ r\ 8 \ \ \ G J @3@@3EEH V @SE Q @LP • @CF69 @3@C H EFG@?L…R @q @BQR @<@ˆ=@B6 6 K @@q @b=h=ŠEFe9 @X—l6 @•aCb@LEHo l n@IC • @íC@@fe e H @Z=@@sugarcane J N J \ J @IC• @íC@˚Se HEETUQQ @L…R b@4@CG F G @•h@S T U @L O B@@L~QR P 9 @•XE —ý h@research centres @@bh=@ministries @ÇbC • e J E 8 c \ ] @Loy =@B@LO p • @C4@S§ 69 ETl @ yield per acre @@

29 c c JJ’ J J @?L…R @q 469 @L [ @ 2006-07 @˘L…R @q4@L69 [ @ 2007-08 :IŠB@ŠHi 5| @bŠ@ˆC H 6 F6K J c J J 8 •6O 8 8 8 r\ 8 G \ Tl\ T l\ @ˆCh=@†„ @3@?L…E H R @C FRQ b@C`=@ H up and down L…R @‘[ ba@q6 @ˆC@f6H @ˆ`=@?@e L…R @”E Fd @SEE @˘S J 8 8 J O 8 J @period @=bC5Q] @B 6K ! ˆC6 F6K @?@L…R @CC@`=@L H6 j [ @3h@f6j G @seed @ˆC„ h=@†•6 @bh=@L…R @C H `=@4e9 @C F 69 @f G @weather N J _ c ?L…R @fB@Sº QR ETl\ @<@˘@L… R @q 4@69production @SETk @¹=@@L…R J c c J \ N J ?L…R @q 469 @SETk @ZB DC• @LG @@‘P› bB@fi G @ˆ`=@e : SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Senator Haroon Khan: This is a wrong attitude. J 8 J c [ J JJ’ J J @B@3@C@Zh4@‘6KV yGE[ =Bba@L K [ @‘C6 K œ @X—FE TF @S ETk ! @ ˆC6 F6K @ :IŠB@ŠHi 5| @bŠ@ˆC H 6 F6K J c N TU8 \ ] TT H58 Q] N { T k ?SEEEEQ @bCEF9 @B@LG O 4@”G E Fd @<@˘SQ C F 6 9 @S @•h@L… R @3¿FÁ @S@attitude N J c J ši i Tk e\ J JJJ TF[ @˘L…R @ q @ 4 @SE @IC• @íC@e H wheat production ! @ ˆC6 F6K @ :ZCj @ ZhbCQ U @ X —FE E J N 8 G T 8 ši G @ˆCH @f @maize @bh=@rice @LO @SE k @˘Cs\ @3@I=BE H t @=XE —Ó @?@L… R @q @4@iproduction f @sugarcane 6 J G8 G G Tl\ you are not taking it seriously. 3V @L…R @3@•h@L…E H R @f @ˆC@f6H @attitude @B6K @˘f @S E Mr. Nazar Muhammad Gondal: No, I am very much serious better than anyone. J 8 J 8 8 •O º T\ T ™G J @4G @ weather favour @ˆCh=@†„ 6 @?@fB@SQREEl @B@S O k @v‹€_ @q @ crop @3@3EEHV @L…R @3@3h@ Hj6 ˆC6 F6K J 8 8 8 \ 8 J O c 8 8 @B@C4@SO H G ETl @ weather favour @ˆC„ h=@†•6 @˘L…R @f º C6 j @¥4 69production @fG @¹=@B@@L…O R @CCH6 j 8 J J J ’ c 8 \ J _ @ZCl67 @3V @L…R @3@@æ‹@3C Hç H Ïo• @Ç4@ÇX69 E —Ó @@?L… R @CB@C H¢Fj QRE O =@qr6 @SETk @C9 a@?@L… R @fC@Bº 6 QR @< @ production EN E 8 8 @C• @u=@bh=@L…R @fº BQR @production sustain @fG @crops @ÇbC5]Q @L…R @¼ozO @C@ • sustainability @” H m mJ 8 N J J m t ] šTj6 º T\ T \ @4@gB@<@qG G Q @sincerely @bh=@@L…R @f `=@improvement @SEEk @ZBe‡ C@˘@SeH UQ @crops @íC@L…e eH R @4 p• 8 \ J J D 8 @CBH QR @qr6 @4 e9 weather @b=Š@hb=a@Ck • @crops @3V @Cy @Zh4G @bhXY @æ‹ç @3@S H EEETpTk @SJ EF @S UQQ @L…R b@4 G @@•h@S T U @L P p• 8 E 8_ 8 c _ @?L…R @qšRQ b@fB@<@bh=@L…º QR R @q š à 4@L69 [DG @L =B K @L @¹=@percentage @½e‡ @˘@L…R ŒO T Eš[ 7 N K J ?36 FK Cœ @qŠE œ @SE 5 @q@@6 :SJ ETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K J J O š[ c [ 3V @@L…R @=BQR @CsΦ @SETk @ˆ=B6 6 K @L G @I=B t ! @ˆC6 F6K @:@qŒE Šœ @SET5E @X —FE TE F

30 åGovernment realized that the poor interest of farmers in the agriculture sector is due to lack of adequate incentives in agriculture.ç J J G J T G J 8 @f @poor farmers @3E H ! @ˆC6 F6K @?SE UQ @Ça@prices @f @paddy @bh=@wŠFi @@LO @ZB^\ =@½C\ • @L G @¹= N 8 J TH c N c 8 šÛ TU 8 @L…R @I=Bt @3@LE H [ @Z=@=XE —Ó @?L i @SE Cs\ =@•ŠC@H “ landlords @v4@B@L69O [ @@‘›E @¹=@?@SE Q @L… R b@4 G @ˆC6H J @@introduce @BG @ cooperative farming @LMPD @L G @LM P 9 a@ incentives BG @ poor farmers 3V J N J Tl\ ºJ G ˚SE @CEH @@L…R @proposal @fBG @@¹C@LeH G @Z=@f @L O 4 G J JJ’ J J small @ˆ`=@Be G @SJ 6K @SE T UQ @•h@ 90% farmers ! @ˆC6 F6K @@ :@IŠBŠHi 5| @bŠ@ˆC H 6 F6K 8 8 c _ _ @čCFE9 ‹ŒO @@”@4H pEH =@50 @4e9 h=@LG @¹=@˘@SETUQ @farmers @LG @<@L [ 12 acres @3H @?Li @SETl @farmers 6 N E 8 @bh=@@SETUQ @ farmers @Ž‹@L6 E9 • G @ 2% @fBº G @”@H 100 acres @4e9 h=@LG @¹=@bh=@SETUQ @ 6%farmers c J J T @BG @farmers @v469 @ˆ`=@3e V @CH 4 G @propaganda @3E H ! @ˆC6 F6K @?@SE UQ @ 2% farmers 4e9 h=@LG @¹= J 8 J šTj6 G Tk T U J TU @q @f @”¿k @¹=@SEE @ICEFK @vXE —Ó @?@SQ @L…R b@va@ incentives @BG @Z=@C@SEH E Q @L…R b@4G @ protect N 8 ] \ @•ŠC@CH “ • @¹=@SETQU @LMP9 a@ T T T @¹=@•h@4=@ZB@Ci QR FjFR9QQ C@CeE a@LO =b@”=@SE H EEEk @36FT ¦R =@˘C FjF C@S e l @C d 6| =@@S k @dispute @¹=@SEEk @@˘@S UQ @figures

31 J J jump start and a big @LO @ZB^\ =@B G @ agriculture production @4i =@3V @SET¦ @ZC@BJ k G J 8 8 m 8 8 ‡’ GJ º ç J J J J Ministry @BG @branches @ÊoF @@f @”F69 @f CEFÛ 49 @q bb@3V @L…R @3E H @¹b=4 i @L [ @Z=@BO @@L… R @C F E 9 a@boost 8 ] 8 @intervention @bh=@‘›Q @fG @ Prime Minister sahib @SETk @¹=@bh=@½\ C• @LG @ of Finance 8 8 J \ @SJ ^6\ @ÇXE —Ó @Ö‹× @g 6K@˘SE9 a @BG @ farmers @wC5\ @ interest free loans @•h@3V @L…R @ˆbhX Y@q r6 @f G J 9 šoÅ c m ŒEO T5Eš[ 8 ’ @@Sa@4@•ŠE G •E @L[ @¹=@B@Gland holders @v4@•h@”69 • @L~O @3@CC‹@LVEH k» O @36 FK C œ @q Šœ @SE @3X Ó —• N J c THJ _ _ T U 7 J pFD interest free loans 3V @SEE =4G @bhC@3@B6H E H G @Z=@<@b=@<@SQ @ land holders @LO Bde @B6 K @S E 8 J 8 9 @B QR jump start @•aCb@‘EH ^6\ @B@LO i @Sa@va@4E i =@•h@as far as fertilizer is concerned N ?C@LyO C 6 j J N J ?‘6 K Cœ @4bh@qE9 67 @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Mr. Nazar Muhammad Gondal: Noted sir. Mr. Chairman: Good suggestion. Yes, Shah sahib. J m c J 9J i J m ž TF[ @BG @b=h=ŠEFe9 @3V @L…R @3E H @L [ @WB ¾ B { @4E bh@¹b=4 @ÇX E —Ó ! ˆC6 F6K @:•C• @qÅ @ŠhCEEH6 j Š F [ @X —FE E 8 J J c @SEETk @¹=@3V @S T UQ @LP9 C@ˆ`=@?L…6je R @C@ • major role research @SETk @bha@LG @Ö`=@LM6 PGOD @L @L C§ 4 69 J 8 J |e\ • šT T G J 8 @IC• @Los n @

32 8 J { \ G J JJ’ J J 100% @SETk @3V @CFE9 a@3 l _ @¼ o zP @LG @vb=a=@qr6 @q ™ ! @ˆC6 F6K @ :@IŠBHi @Š 5| @bŠ@ˆC H 6 F6K mm J 8 J m N J 8 tm ] šR Tl\ • O ši G Tk \ @4@gG B@u=@@¸CG ¢OQ =@<@?qQ b@SE @qC@gC6 H 6 • @f @improvement @SE @¹=@‹de @BO @@ZBQ R @satisfied m J m 8 8 \ ?Li @S4@E9 GgB@f@Lt GGO •@ÇX—l 6\ @@¼C6O ì{ @L G @¹=@f@B@ i Q R suggestion @X—l 6\ @qr6 @B6 K @bh=@S ETUQ @L…R b Þ N J ?‘6 K Cœ @ÝC@q@ j 67:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K 8 m c J Tk ozP{ J Þ TF[ @SE @ 2008-9 @3@L…V R @CEFi @C sΦ @¼ @L G @b=h=ŠEFe9 @ZC l E\ ! ˆC6 F6K @:Š57 =@ŠE F [ b@ÝC j @X —FE E 8J J N 8 m Gº8 m 8 Gi Tk º €_ @LDR =h@ZB@3okV @L… @3@ŽCE H E9 ƒƒ•[ @f @ZhbC T • C@?L… R @fB@•aCb@‘ Q R E H^6\ @b=h=ŠEFe9 @f @L PR @SE @•Š • bC ej @?@L… @f `=@q 8 J 8 š9 • T5Q] J Tk T U9 T H _ J @@3V @L…R @3@I=BE H t @=XE —Ó @?L… R @qE a@

33 8 J N J \ 8 J 3@@SV ETUQ @LMPG @4BE9 6‡ @ˆC=Š=@B@LMk „ 6 K P D @L G @ improvement @LO @ZB^\ =@?L… R @fB@Sº Q R ETksugarcane Government has taken the following steps to increase the yield of c m 8 8 @v4@L69[ @‘6 [ @L G @4 p • @”¿k @=bC5Q ] @Žh@¹=@B• O wheat, cotton and rice production NNN8 N i GJ \ 8 º D G 8 Tk J 6\ @LPP @L @4BE9 6‡ @ˆC=Š=@fB@Lk „ G PG @L @ improvement @f @ sugarcane @CEFG @@˘L…R @‰F6Tk @SE @Z=4 ‡ ˚S ETUQ c J N J ? ? ‘C6 K œ @X—¢ Tk @q@67:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K J J J Tk\ T k J Tk N eK J JJ’ J @B6K @S E @¹=@L…R @CEFG @æ‹ç @ˆ=B6 6 K @L ol n@B 6 K @L O @S E ! SE X—FE @ˆC6 F6K @:IŠBHi @Š 5| @bŠ@ˆC H 6 F6K 8 8 c T T\ 9 J J @miserable @bh=@¹BÁ =@‚6H C„ @Ç46 9 @variety of sugarcane @B@”=@SOE H EEEk @¹=@S s @SXE — eÐ @ÇaC FT6H m E 8 8 m \] \ @fG @research institutes @vbC5QE] @½C\ • @LG @ZCJ ƒkD C@‚@ˆ=@?Sk6 T UQ @L… R b@4G @gt BG @qr6 =@

34 N J 8 J 9 Tk D m Tk 8 @LP @SE @ next 2, 3 months @xfCzO @u=@¸C ¢OQ =@bh=@L…R @CE F i @@B@Rfinal @SE @ PASSCO @Ž• h@¹= J N c N m J J J TT_ ] J KT TÒEF6K T @LG @Z=@˘SEEUQQ @L dÁO b@LMn@L H @<@LQ PGD @L @S@S6 U @g =4@bhe9 =@ha@”=@?LE H i @SE H C6j @BQR @ÄhXÀ @L P TH ~@w=aB i N J @?fi @LO C6j @B@ÇbB@QRe O shortage @fG @ZB=aB@Š{ i z6O @LG @L O `= ∗ Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Question hour is over. 8 @@@?SETQU @LPT M¦ @L D @Leave applications Leave of Absence 8 J J J G 8 { º J m T“ J N K J @BG @Çbh‹» @9@3j bB{ @4e9 @CF69 @f @ˆ CEF hXâ @f=a@‘C6K œ @Š 57 =@ŠE F [ bB@XK Í E h4@e 9 :SETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K J NNJJJ 8 J m G 8 J \ 8 \ T\ 8 T @f@‘äK b@L[ @Z=B=@LEO PGD @L @íbC@¹=@LE H O @ZB ^ \ =@L P D @¹=@˘L dp @L• @4@SG EEl @ŽX@S@¹‰G À k 6j= Þ J J J { 8 G 8 ˚L…R @bBû P @‘äK b @CEFG @?L…R @f @‘[ =BK ba N Þ J 8 J ( ( qši @fG @bBûP{ @‘äK b ) J 8 J JJG 8 P× J J J N K J @CH @10 @3bB@4@Cj{e9 F69 @f@‘EP•6 @ÇbC •H C@LO @‘C6 K œ @@bB o 6H @Š 5 7 =@¹CE FF D =@ˆC6 6K @:SETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K Þ J J J J N { 8 G8 G 8 J D ˚L…R @bBû P @@‘äK b @CEFG @?L…R @f @‘[ =BK ba@f @‘ ä K b@L [ @Z=B=@LE O P @LG @Çbh‹» @12 N Þ J 8 J ( ( qši @fG @bBûP{ @‘äK b ) 8 J J 8 J J G8 { º J ™Ük ’ J J N K J @CH @ 9 @3bB@4@Cj {e9F69 @f@ˆCE F  hXâ @f=a@LO @‘C6K œ @q @X6 —V =@Š 5 | @•a=4=B@6 9 O :SETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K Þ J J J J N { 8 G8 G 8 J D ˚L…R @bBû P @@‘äK b @CEFG @?L…R @f @‘[ =BK ba@f @‘ ä K b@L [PG @Z=B=@LE O @L @Çbh‹@»20 N Þ J 8 J ( ( qši @fG @bBûP{ @‘äK b ) J J N m ž 6\ º J J J J N K J @L…R @Ça@ĉŸ =@L O @q6• @h@fC@LeH O =4@4bh@‘699EE6 K C œ @WXÀ =@4h4@3 99e 6j =b@ˆC6 F 6K @:SETk X —EFe @ˆC6 F6K J m TÒ• T l\ 8 T k J m 8 { @?Li @SEEE @4@SG @ŽX@SG À @¹‰=@B@Çbh‹@6j G » 12 @3bB@‘j{ ¡ C@L6HG @ˆCE F hXâ @ÇbCX • À @•h@3 V 8 @SET¦ @ LD @ points of order @S@ŠEETkz6O @?S@LM@L T UQ PT¦ D @ Item No. 3, Ordinances Mashhadi sahib, please sit down. May I request you to sit ?L i down. N J J J ( ( Ça@fº CF[ @SETk @Z=BJJEO =@ˆ‹6 ò{ @Z=a=@4e9 @ÚÛ B { @¹= )

∗ Question Hour being over, the remaining questions and their answers will be placed on the table of the House.

35 Ordinances Laid J N J @?‘6 K Cœ @ÇbC • 6\ @q@67:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari (Leader of the House): Thank you Mr. Chairman, on behalf of Minister for Law and Parliamentary Affairs, I beg to lay before this House the following Ordinances, as required by clause (2) (a) (ii) of Article 89 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:-

(i) The National vocational and Technical Education Commission (Amendment) Ordinance, 2009 ( XXX VI of 2009).

(ii) The National Commission for Human Development (Amendment) Ordinance, 2009 ( XXX VII of 2009).

(iii) The Industrial Development Bank of Pakistan (Re-Organization and conversion) Ordinance, 2009 ( XXX VIII of 2009).

(iv) The Earthquake Reconstruction and Rehabilitation Authority Ordinance, 2009 ( XXX I X of 2009).

(v) The Transplantation of Human Organs and Tissues Ordinance, 2009 ( X LI of 2009). m J J J Tk N eK J T“ c T [ Point of order. ! SE X—FE @ˆC6 F6K @:Š57 =@ŠE F [ bBK @XÍE h4@Xe 9 —FE EF N J @?‘6 K Cœ @XÍET“ h4e 9 @˘q67 @:SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K N m J J º J Tk N eK J T“ c T [ @Ordinance House @fB@4=G i ! SE X—FE @ˆC6 F6K @ :Š57 =@ŠE F [ bB@XK ÍE h4@Xe 9 —FE EF 8 N m r\ m 6\ 8 Û J TeH Tk @4G @q6 @@reject @L[ =@•h@bh=@v4G @‘‡ @4@¹=@•h@3e 9 V @L… R @CFok @ÚB{G @3@BE H @Z=B=@¹=@B@LE O O O C6 j @CE F G @ gE @S E 8 J J J 8 šK T š•{ 8 right @3@=bCE H 5Q] @?L…R @CC@B@< H6 j QR @ Ordinance @•h@3V @SE UQ @3@qE H @ LG @L O 4@G reject @bh=@L…R @C Fp•

36 N J 8 N T ’ JT G G ™Û 8 @?SE UQ @L…R b@C@L6j P G @lay @Šz6O @LG @LM PTl @SE H @3@?LE H O C@f@6j delay f @< @¹=@4=@L…i R @CB@H QRviolate J c @?LMP …R Cej @C H BQR @ˆ=B6 6 K @C • @¹=@L… R @serious objection @=469 @3E H Mr. Chairman: Ordinances stand laid. m m J J J J 8 J 9 c m TU c ?34E H p• @?Li @S4@ÄhXE G À @•bCha@Š6H z6O @L G @‘P{ @15 @u=@¸C¢•5O =@bh=@C @bC\ @SE Q @LO 4@3G ù Û h@C • @‘P{ @15 @ˆ=6 ______N 8 N J J J N ( ( qši @fG @ÇBPok @LPD @L G @ˆ‹6 ò{ @bC5\ @f=hbbC@f º • G @¹‰=@4@ÚB@¹=6j e9 Û { ) [The House was reassembled after Maghrib prayers at 6.25 p.m. with Mr. Chairman (Farooq H. Naek) in the Chair.] N 9 J Þ š[ J N K J @LMP `=@@4@LG D @B@Z=@ˆ`=@‘G e 6K Cœ @ÝC@@˚‘ j 6 K C œ @

37 did not take the intelligence report on its face value and the report was to the effect that 04 people belonging to Mutahida Qaumi Movement were going to murder the minister. Now, luckily, Mr. Gabol has his own contacts. He contacted the party and investigated the matter thoroughly. Mr. Gabol himself went on to the television and told the nation that the report was absolutely baseless, mischievous and incorrect because all the 04 people nominated by the Intelligence Officer were either living in the USA or in England as political refugees since 1992. They did not even have Pakistani passports. They have refugees status. Now, sir, had Mr. Gabol taken that report on face value and retaliated, it would have caused an irreparable loss to human lives and properties in Karachi because Karachi is a sensitive city. We are doing our best to maintain peace among the different communities that live and flourish in Karachi. Also it might cause a great rift, perhaps an irreparable rift between two coalition partners. Now, I have the honour of belonging to Karachi. I have the honour to represent my beloved province of Sindh. The law and order in Sindh and the protection of the properties, lives and honour of the people of Sindh is very close to my heart. Under any concept of recognized behaviour of democratic traditions or customs, this type of thing cannot be tolerated. The rule of the intelligence agencies must come to an end. They must stop playing their games, they must stop trying to rule the people of Pakistan, they must stop dividing the people of Pakistan, they must stop pitting brother against brother, they must stop playing politics with the people of Pakistan. We have reported this matter to the Ministry of Interior and we demand that strictest possible action should be taken against the responsible intelligence officer. It is not his duty to interfere and try to destroy the political balance and political

38 harmony that we have sought, all of us, ANP, PPP, MQM, JUI, we are trying our hardest to maintain harmony and peace amongst the various ethnic communities which live and flourish in the city of Karachi. Karachi is for everyone. Karachi is the most important city of Pakistan and unless action is taken, we will not return to this House and I walk out at the disgusting behaviour of this intelligence officer. (At this stage Senator Col. (Retd.) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi alongwith other Senators of MQM staged a walk out.)

Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Yes, Haji Adeel sahib. J 8 J \ ] N J m N J ’ c [ @ZBJ P‡e @< Q ! SJ EETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K @?@ZB@bBQR p ¢ { @S T k ! SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K @:@‚Š@ŠEH Å 5 | @qC67 j @X —FE TEF JJJ8 J J J JJ8e\TTTTQQ]r\c ] 8 e\ r \ T\ 8 e\ TO c @L…R b@bC@ZBkP‡ @SEEEEEE5kU5 @q6 @S@CC@˘S H“QQ @L O bC@S k @ZB P‡P ‡ @q 6 @S@•=B k B ‡ @3@SV U @‘6EPä Š@v4@6 H 69wB Û J J J ž• 8 8 J pFD 8 e\ r\ T8 ‡’ J 8 T @˘4e‡ @vbC5••Q] @½C\ @½C \ @LG @¹=@SE @L… R @CQ U b@C@=bC@B@ZBB6jkGOP‡ @q6 @SEEk @ZB‰@Ê Û Å oF @LG @ZC FHÁG C@?Se UQ m J J mJ 8 m 8 J 8 e\ Tk 8 J c r\ 8 @LDG =BK @L @ŽC»ËO @ZB P‡ @SE @aC`=@w‰6 H• =@ZBa@3 O F[ 4@?L…i R @Cb@C@C=b=@ï=Š@qQ UjH6 E k 6 @½\C •Ë5 @L G @ŽC » O @ÇbC Q] J J m J J 8 { J T N eKJ { 8 G \ m @aCË•O =@LG @LM o F @¹= ! SXE k —FE @ˆC6 FË•6K @?=B@aCQR•O =@C@LMo[DG F @”=@LE H @L =B@L K @ŽC» Ë O @f@•=B ‡T B¢ eO @˘L [ J J m 8 J J J N m 8 e\ 8 J 8 Tl\ J 8 e\ H8 ™G T k @BGOPK @ZBB‡ @B6 @ZCh@?CQU sFF\ @CEEi @C G @•bB Á {@½C\ • @LG @¹=@3@˘CH sF\ @CE D @SEE @3 Ï K @L O @ZBP‡ @‚C@4@ŽC kËe 9 » O @q @S J JJ8 N N c JJJm OT k K i JJJ @¹C6FFHDi @B6K @bh=@CEE @C=b=@ï=Š@C@ZCb@Bk •H 6 T¢e @S E @ZCb@g 6 H6 @bh=@LPO @L C Fj6 9 @L G C@L G @Z=@B 6 K @ZCQ UFHFF h@˘CEE i^D @C Ce\ @¹C 6 J N N 88 J J J ž• J 8 e\ TTFi ºJ Ušp H c TT Ukp c Ô F D @4e‡ @ZBP‡ @3@3E HV @CEEEEFli @C _ @bh=@SEEEE @fC F ^e\ @•h@SQQ @q6 @ZC4 H Üe H @˘S @LPH ~@L o • @S @b=bC@?C6 HFH• i @C =b=@ï=Š@Ck @q @3 ¿ • JJ8 m JJ8e\TU R r\ 8 e\ ] J Tk N eK J @LG @ZBP‡ @˘SE Q @L… P b@q6 @ZB P ‡ 4@ZCe9 lE \ @?L… R @XÈ} @C@‘@<@aC`=@w‰ •6 [ Q6 H • = ! SE X—FE @ ˆC6 F6K@ ?L…R 8 J N N N J N J šTH ž“ º Tkc [ c 9 e8 TpT k}J FD U r 6\ J @q6 @< @fB@SGEEE @X—Ò EF @ŽBE P9 =4@3@4=@˘4@Ö4@Le9E H i e 9 K G @‘B { p j @S @aC`=@w‰6H • =@q =@SE @SQ @q @vŠF9 C 5 \ J 8 c J 8mJ \ 8JJ\ 8 m 8 \ 8 J ] 8 @CFi @C H =b=@ ï=Š@C@ŽCk •Ë»O @f@•=BG ‡P B‡e @˘ŽC » Ë O @ZBJ PÁe ‡ e @L[ @ZBETH @L G @‘B{ pj @qCh@?L• “ O 4@3@3 G H ¿ y @<@B Q O EE J N 8 7 J ]J \ J ž • 8 @=bC5QEE] @ˆ`=@@3e V @LP[Rd nB@LeO @Z=@<@3bh@˘L…QQ H @STl @4bh@fB@C@4E9‡9º G •lFe @4@ZC e \E @3 V @ZB@C RÁ^_ @L [R @¹B  =@S T k @?L… 88 8 ] T TQ] T c J @‚@ZCje FD B@4@<@v@W‹ie9 Q × @X@?SQ U EEE U5QQ @LO bC@L k [ @ZBEE PiOD B@S @ˆ`=@B@W‹e × @”=@?SE H U @L O =b=@ZB P G @ï=Š k E J N J 8 ž• \ J @˘@ŽŠ6 E9 l\ @ÇbC5Q] @˘4e‡ @vb C5QEQE]@ˆ`=@W‹@ÇXe × À ha@@?L…R @STl @•C@•Cy Fe9 @LM P D @vbC 5 ] @3Ìj6 @fB@?Sº G T UQ @qb]Q JJJ8J 8 J J cTU cJ T U c ó m @=b=@ï=Š@Ck•F5 @¹C6D @vbCQEQEQ] @˘SQQ @LO =b=@ï=Š@C k •H5 @ZCb@ÇbC 6 ] @?S @L O =b=@ï=Š k@C •k¢ @q C@ZCK ba@vbC 5 ] @?SETUQ @L…R b

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44 Senate, 1988, the requirement of Rules 22, 23, 26, 27 and 120 of the said Rules is dispensed with in order to move the following Resolution. J E\ c T \ ?LMP ~‡ a@¥4e9 @ˆ`=@L…e R @SE l @resolution @¹CeH @vXE —Ó Commendation Resolution for Pakistani Athlete. Senator Mian Raza Rabbani: The Senate of Pakistan commends the outstanding performance of a Pakistani athlete namely Miss Naseem Hameed, in the 11 th South Asian Games held at Dhaka. Miss Naseem Hameed, won a gold medal in the womenãs 100 meter race and became the fastest women of South Asia, this in itself is a tremendous achievement. But what requires praise, support and appreciation is the fact that she hails from a family which is living below the poverty line. Attaining such heights, in a field of sport which requires training and good health, in her particular circumstances wherein her entire family resides in one room in Karachi is highly commendable. This also reflects the fact that the working classes of Pakistan, when determined, can scale insurmountable heights. In the prevailing circumstances this poor daughter of Pakistan has done the nation proud. The Senate calls upon the Federal Government to take the following steps amongst other steps immediately:

1. Provide a job to her in any autonomous, semi- autonomous body or corporation like PIA etc.

2. Her training programme should be taken up by the Federal Government as she has shown potential for further such wins, if properly trained.

3. A civil award may be bestowed upon her. Thank you sir.

45 Mr. Chairman: I put the resolution to the House. (The motion was carried)

Mr. Chairman: The Resolution stands adopted. Haji Ghulam Ali sahib. N J J J r\ c Tl\ J Tk N eK J ž 7 c T [ ?LO C@Ca@q6jE H 6 @ˆ‰@SeH E = ! SE X—FE @ˆC6 F6K @:qÅ @w‰ Å@q6 Cj @X —FE EF 8 Tk c c J Tk \ J T N K J @SE @vbC@L6HG @ˆ‰@?C@v4@C4@eH ye9 H G add @SE @ resolution @3@‹E H de @B@O :SE k X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K } š[7 ‡ šE D ?‘6 K Cœ @aC6 • @

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48 J J 8 N K J 8 \ @LO @‘C6K œ @‚EF hŠ F { @B@½C6K \ • @L G @¹=@we fully support.@qr @fB@º QRdiscussion @4e9 @resolution 8 J 8 G 8  Tk G 8 BOR @BQQ @ˆbC6j =@f @ˆ`=@4e i =@˘@C s \ @=B RK @3¿ÏEP @B6 @S E @House Committee @3V @f @ˆC6H I should move that motion. Îk N J Swati Sahib, Minister for @?SET¦ @4G @@‚ 5 @BG @¹=@Lol\ n :SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Science and Technology. Please be brief and precise because there is a lot of work. Mr. Mohammad Azam Khan Swati (Minister for Science and Technology): Thank you very much Mr. Chairman, I think, I will take the opportunity and I will submit to the honourable Mian Raza Rabbani Sahib that let us not put too much strain on PIA because that is a scar on the face of my country, that is a scar on Federation, that is a scar on Federal Government. I will offer her a job and I will also provide personal monetary help to her because she is basically, representing the respect of Pakistan and Pakistan is very dear to me. Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman: Now, I put the motion. (The Motion was carried.)

Mr. Chairman: The Resolution is adopted unanimously. Bukhari Sahib. Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari: Sir, I will J ’ 7 issue ”E H =@4e9 @ point of order @LO @‘C6K œ @‚Š@ŠEH Å 5 | @qC@6 j make a submission that J J Tk 8 @L…R @Cl_ @L [ @Z= @LO @S E and that was about the cultural things .Cs\ @CE F G @raise @Z=@bh=@J I will ask the Secretary, Culture to have a meeting with him.@3 V 8 ?SET¦ 4G @meeting @•h@½\ C• @L G Mr. Chairman: OK. Now, we may take up item No.4. 8 J c J J G8 P‡’ 9 Tk J } š[ TF[ ?Cy @ZBQR Ce jH @C 4 @ˆC6 H @Xâ @4e @¹=@S E ! •=h@ˆC6 F6K @:aC6• @

49 T¦ 8 J T N K J ?SE @4G @ˆC6H @ˆ`=@e : SE k @X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K Legislative Business Further Discussion on Transplantation of Human Organs and Tissues Bill 2009. Senator Wasim Sajjad: Mr. Chairman, yesterday this Bill was presented before the House and I was amongst those Senators who had requested that this may be taken up today, not because that there was any intention to oppose the Bill but because being mindful of the fact that this is a very important piece of legislation; myself and the honourable Senators felt that they should have time to study it and make their contribution and present their views before this House. Now, there is no doubt that this is a very important piece of legislation. We had transplants of various kinds taking place in Pakistan for several years and the complaints have been that some of these are commercially oriented. The people buy and sell kidneys and in fact, there is a tourism trade going on in Pakistan where people come from abroad, bring kidneys and the transplant takes place. In fact there are various kinds of transplants, kidney is perhaps, the most common and very high incidents of kidney disease in Pakistan, so therefore, within Pakistan also there is need and demand for kidney transplants. These are life saving techniques but they have got a bad name because No.1, they were commercially oriented and No.2, these operations and these transplants were being conducted in places which were perhaps, not capable enough to carry out these delicate procedures with the result that there were also complaints of high fatalities in these operations. It is to meet this requirement that this law has been

50 presented and while I am speaking on this, I would like to pay tribute and appreciate the services of Dr. Adeeb Rizvi. (Thumping of desks)

Senator Wasim Sajjad: His institute in Karachi which has been doing commendable work over the last several years. I think he has made an input into this law and the law has been made after taking into account a number of factors. But still, there is always a need of improvement. I would have insisted on certain amendments but again conscious of the fact that any amendment will further delay the legislation, I will be making the suggestion through you and through the House that this law may be reviewed after one year of its functioning so that if there are any short comings which we come across on the basis of advice of experts, the people in this field then those short comings can be removed through appropriate amendments in the Bill. Straightaway sir, I would feel that some of there provisions which may create problems, there is a large demand for kidney transplant in Pakistan. The incidence of disease is fairly high and we are a nation of 160 million going on to 170 million people. The demand for this is all over the country. There may not be enough centers which can cater for this and the composition of the Evaluation Committee whose reference has been made in section 5 of the Act. Now this kind of Evaluation Committee according to the law, as soon as after the commencement of this Act, the Federal Government may, by notification in the official Gazette, appoint as many Evaluation Committees as may be necessary. There is of course the enabling provision by which the government can appoint many Evaluation Committees but if you look at the composition, you will find that it must consist of a surgical specialist, a medical

51 specialist, a transplant specialist, a nephrologist, neurophysician and an intensivist where available. Such people of high caliber are not available all over the country. So you will have only at the first instance, just a handful of committees may be in Karachi and Lahore and therefore the work of the Evaluation Committee will be hard, a lot of work because as I said we are a nation of 160 million people, you may have a case in Okara, Mianwali, Abbottabad, Mansehra and if you read this section IV which says åthe cases of unclaimed brain dead hospitalized patientsç äunclaimedã and these are important because sometimes the person is åunclaimedç and his kidney or other organs can be used to transplant. åThe cases of unclaimed brain dead hospitalized patients can be presented to an Evaluation Committee for transplantation after intense search for their relatives within 24 hours.ç Now if there are handful of committees may it not be possible to do this within 24 hours and kidney transplant, sir, I am not an expert, I believe it is not something that you just take a kidney and put it somewhere. It is not something that you take it out of the shelf and transplant in somebody else. Tissue matching has to take place then the kidney has to be transplanted within a certain time frame. It is not that you can keep it endlessly. Similarly transplant is not just a kidney, you have a retina transplant, liver transplant. So we need perhaps to look at this as to how it will function in actual practice. As to what difficulties we face when we are trying to administer this law and in the presence of this law, I feel that the number of available organs may not be very much and the demand is very high. So we have to look at it how do we meet this need. What do we do because these are life saving procedures. A person who has damaged his kidneys lives, life of a miserable person and a person who needs, let us say transplant of

52 a retina is a person who can get eyesight. Similarly liver transplant, people can die because of this and a transplant gives them a new leaf of life. So these are very important life saving procedures and we should ensure that while we must be ethical and we must avoid commercialism and while we must ensure that the transplant are done by competent and expert hand with the best facilities. We all recognize it but at the same time there should be some mechanism by which the highest number of organs are available for the very high population of Pakistan. Then there is a monitoring authority under section (a) which comprises of the Minister of Health and other people and if let us say that I have the opportunity to make an amendment, I would have introduced an amendment at this stage saying that the monitoring authority should review this law and after one year, present a report to the Parliament as to what further changes are needed in this law in the light of experience, but I am not going to do this for the reason that this will delay the passage of this Bill and further create difficulties in the administration of this kind of mechanism which is being postulated in this Bill. So, I would recommend to the government that although this is not recommendation which is candidly, nevertheless, they should take it into account and perhaps the Minister for Health, I am glad that he is here and I am grateful to him that he allowed this opportunity to speak today because yesterday there seemed to be a hurry to pass this Bill yesterday but I appreciate the democratic spirit yesterday. I do so again today but I would say that the government should be even it is not a statutory requirement, but they should make a statement that we will keep working on this. This is a new law and in the context of a new law, we will have a fresh experience. It is first time that Pakistan is enacting such a law and in the light of

53 our own experience, the government should evaluate the performance of this law and after one year, present a report to the Parliament as to what difficulties they faced and what further changes they need so that it will become a more better legislation. I would also suggest that persons who transplant, donate their organs, living persons they may donate it to a close relative or they may donate it by virtue of the permission of the Evaluation Committee. Some of the donors may suffer medical problems. Some of these donors who donate kidneys, for example, they may have medical problems and it is not unusual to have a medical problem. They may have affection infection, they may have other problems. Sometimes these problems can be fatal. Perhaps some sort of insurance mechanism that may be devised by the Government of Pakistan so that those people, who sacrifice their organs for their dear ones and in the service to humanity, they have some safeguard that they do not go into a process where their organs are donated and then when they come into medical difficulties, they have nobody to fall back upon. So there should be some insurance schemes by which these people can be benefited. Such schemes should be looked at by the monitoring committee and they should devise an insurance system. How they can do it? It is a matter of detail, I think this can be suggested by honourable members who can look into it. Perhaps they may not be able to do it today but as I said if this matter can come up again before the House in an yearãs time on the basis of the recommendation or report of the monitoring authority of the Health Ministry, then we should look into this aspect. What do we do if let us say a person who has donated an organ suffers some disease, has a problem and he is a poor man who has done it for the love of his family, brother, father, mother or because of such considerations, he is now facing medical

54 problems, what do we do? We let him to die? Do we leave him in a lurch, we do ignore him or as a responsible country, as a responsible community, we provide some benefit inbuilt into the law so that he does not have to beg, borrow or look donors. Sir, I am grateful to you for giving me this opportunity to speak on this and in view of my honourable responsible speakers, I would say, I fully support this legislation and we will give it our full support. J _ J Mr. Chairman: Thank you. ˚Li @SETUQ C@CC‹@½ejHk» e‡ @ˆ`=@˘‘e 6 K C œ @ÇbB¡ @ m J 8 J J 8 TeH c Tk T k \ J J J c T [ @@?@ZB@C4@gQRHG E @aC6 FFG bC 6 { @B@‘C G6 K œ @X —¢ @SE @B@L O o l n ! ˆC6 F6K @ :ÇbB¡ @ZCj @469 C H @X —FE EF J 6 \ Þ 8 J J c @qr6 @LO @@parliamentarians @SETk @¹=@bh=@L…R @q]Q b@4G @bCìP9 =@@C • @ZBC@¹=@LJ O„ [ @L ¾ ‹ç @‚BEH × @v4@wB69 Û J J c J J 8 š9 G J T “ ó c @LOR @ZB^\ =@?L… @wC@‘••^6\ @C@

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58 grateful to him. It was passed in the National Assembly unanimously, all the Ulemas also agreed and this is requirement for that and I am also grateful to all Mualana sahib over there for having withdrawn whatever amendments, they gave in. N \ N J ? ? L…R @qr6 @3¿ÏEPÂ @fB@C@º G •Federal Shariat Court :SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Makhdoom Shahabuddin: Sir, they have also agreed to this. Thank you. Mr. Chairman: Yes, O.K. Now, it has been moved that the Bill to provide for removal, storage and transplantation of human organs and tissues for therapeutic purposes [ The Transplantation of Human Organs and Tissues bill, 2009 ] as passed by the National Assembly, be taken into consideration. (The Motion was carried.) (Thumping of Desks)

Mr. Chairman: There is no amendment in any of the Clause, therefore, I put all the Clauses together as one question before the House, the question is that Clauses 2 to 18 do form part of the Bill. (The Motion was carried.)

Mr. Chairman: The Clauses 2 to 18 stand part of the Bill. We may now take up Clause 1 Preamble and Title of the Bill. The question is that Clause 1, Preamble and Title do stand part of the Bill. (The Motion was carried.)

Mr. Chairman: Please, move item No.5 Minister sahib. Makhdoom Shahabuddin: Sir, I beg to move that the BillÉ J N K J nobody reads the rules @3V @L…R @3E H @problem ! ‘6 K C œ@4E9 bh :SJ ETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K

59 Makhdoom Shahabuddin: Sir, I beg to move that the Bill to provide for removal, storage and transplantation of human organs and tissues for therapeutic purposes [ The Transplantation of Human Organs and Tissues Bill, 2009 ] be passed. Mr. Chairman: It has been moved that the Bill to provide for removal, storage and transplantation of human organs and tissues for therapeutic purposes [ The Transplantation of Human Organs and Tissues bill, 2009 ] be passed. (The Motion was carried.)

(Thumping of desks) Mr. Chairman: The Bill stands passed unanimously. 8 J c } TU 9 for ! ‘6 K Cœ @b=a@ïC • =@bh=@SE Q @LMP a4@G defer @ BG @ item No.6 and 7@ @ 3V @ L…R @ ICEFK @ =X E —Ó ?SE9 4G @suspension Motion move J 8 J c ’ c [ ?Cs\ @=B@3QR ¿ÏEP @C@ • House Committee @‚• @LÁ MT ~j ! ˆC6 F6K @:b=a@ïC•} =@Š5| @X —FE TEF Mr. Chairman: Madam, you are violating the rule by shaking hand, please Sher Alam sahib, donãt go to shake hand. Please, m J J 9 8 T“ c T [ ?SE 4G @w=X—Ð = @C• @ rules @ABD @‘6 [ @ : Š57 =@ŠE F [ bBK @XÍE h4@Xe 9 —FE EF 8 N J ?SE9 4G @w=X—Ð =@C • Rules :SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Senator Muhammd Ishaq Dar: On behalf of the entire House I beg to move that under Rule 236 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Senate, 1988 the requirement of Rules 22, 23, 26, 27 and 120 of the said Rules be dispensed with in order to move a motion in relation to Law and order sir. Mr. Chairman: It has been moved that under Rule 236 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Senate

60 1988, the requirement of Rules 22,23,26,27 and 120 of the said Rules be dispensed with in order to move the following motion. åThe House may discuss the prevailing law and order and security situation in the country, including the incidents of violence that took place at Karachi and other places.ç (The Motion was carried.) m J \J N J ?SE9 4G @ÄhXÀ @ˆ`=@‘e 6 K Cœ @B6‡ 4?C69 y @v4 G @debate open @ZBJ G @ : SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Senator Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Sir, I only requested for the dispensation of Rules and you preempted my actual motion, sir, anyway you are doing half of my job, I request J åin the countryç.@SE9 a4G @3 words add @Šz6O @L G åplacesç @SETk @4K `= J N K J @Šz6O @LG @ and other places Cse 7 =?@L…R @CE F G @ In the country :SETk X—FE e @ˆC6 F6K J ?L…R @Cl_ @country @LO @S ETk Senator Muhammad Ishaq Dar: I had a little editing, so you have a pre edited copy. Sir, read it out for the record. The House may discuss the prevailingÉ Mr. Chairman: Let me read it. Let me read it what I have read. J 8 c ’ c [ ?Li @SET¦ @ˆ`=@Be O @Cy @Zh4G @read @SETk @ : b=a@ïC•} =@Š5| @X —FE TEF c N J ?SET¦ @¥4e9 @q67@ : SJ ETk X—FE eK @ˆC6 F6K Discussion on Law and Order Situation in the Country. J 8 c N J c ’ c [ @CFE9 a@¥4@Se9 EETk @?S T UQ @ supper fast @ˆ`=@Ö`=@e 6 !@SXJ ETk —FE eK @ˆC6 F6K @ :b=a@ïC•} =@Š5| @X —FE TEF ?ZB QR åThe House may discuss the prevailing law and order and security situation in the country including the incidents of violence that took place in Karachi and other places in the country.ç

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