THE SENATE OF PAKISTAN DEBATES
OFFICIAL REPORT Thursday, December 30, 2010 (67 th Session) Volume XI. No.1 (No. 01)
CONTENTS
Pages 1. Recitation from the Holy Quran...... 1 2. Panel of Presiding Officers…….………….……………...... 2 3. Motion Re: Suspension of Questions Hour……...……………….. 2 4. Questions and Answers…………………………………………… 3-38 5. Leave of Absence…………………………………………...... 39-40 6. Legislative Business: The Constitution (19 th Amendment) Bill, 2010………………………………………………..…………...… 41-103 7. Speech by Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani, Prime Minister of Pakistan.. 104-111
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SENATE OF PAKISTAN SENATE DEBATES Thursday, December 30, 2010
The Senate of Pakistan met in the Senate Hall (Parliament House) Islamabad at sixteen minutes past eleven in the morning with Mr. Chairman (Mr. Farooq Hamid Naek) in the Chair.
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Panel of Presiding Officers nI / • .H V L 4Y69 ,X >4BL Ž ‡ , X >4_>46 4:BL 9Ml ‚„:9 JI 4R7. :.I In pursuance of sub Rule (1) of Rule 14 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Senate, 1988, I nominate the following Members in order of precedence to form a Panel of Presiding Officers for the 67 th Session of the Senate of Pakistan:
1. Senator Muhammad Kazim Khan
2. Senator Farhat Abbas
3. Senator Dr. Abdul Malik L Y^. I 7™ 4˜<7 ~ .8 4˘\./ 4 Motion Re: Suspension of Questions Hour Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari (Leader of the House): Sir, in view of the decision of the Business Advisory Committee, it was decided that the questions may not be taken today as there is another important business on the agenda and that is the Bill which the honourable Adviser to Prime Minister would be introducing in the House, that is 19 th Amendment Bill. So, I beg to move a motion for that. Mr. Chairman : Please move the motion. Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari : I beg to move that under Rule 236 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Senate, 1988, the requirements of Rule 38 of the said rules regarding Questions Hour be dispensed with. The
2 questions and their printed replies placed on the table of the House be taken as read. Mr. Chairman : It has been moved that under Rule 236 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Senate, 1988, the requirements of Rule 38 of the said rules regarding Questions Hour be dispensed with. The questions and their printed replies placed on the table of the House be taken as read. (The motion was carried)
Questions and Answers 1. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood : Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) the names of doctors who are not paid salaries in Federal Government Services Hospital, Islamabad; and (b) the reasons for not paying salaries to those doctors? Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) Salary is being paid to all the doctors of Federal Government Services Hospital Islamabad. (b) Nil. 2. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) the names and place of domicile of the doctors working on contract basis in Federal Government Services Hospital, Islamabad, indicating also the period of contract and the date since when they are working on contract in each case; and (b) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to regularize the services of those doctors, if so, when?
3 Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) 48 doctors are working on contract basis in Federal Government Services Hospital, Islamabad. The detail is at Annex-A.
4 (b) There is no proposal to regularize these doctors under consideration of the Government at present. However, the requisition to fill up 30 posts of Medical Offices out of 48 has been sent to FPSC and the remaining 18 posts will be sent shortly.
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3. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) the details of machinery and equipment purchased for PIMS during the last three years indicating also the names of firms and companies from which the same were purchased and the purchase price in each case; and (b) the procedure adopted for those purchases?
Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) The requisite reply is at Annex A. (b) The open tender procedure was adopted for the purchase of machinery and equipments in accordance with Public Procure Rules.
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10 4. *Senator Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain : Will the Minister for Food and Agriculture be pleased to state the names, designation, educational qualifications and experience of the persons appointed in PARC (Pakistan Agricultural Research Council) during the last two years? Mr. Nazar Muhammad Gondal: The information is being collected from the PARC. The same will be submitted in the House as soon as it is received. 5. *Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi: Will the Minister for Food and Agriculture be pleased to state: (a) the production of potato and tomato in the country during the last three years with year-wise break up; and (b) the steps taken by the government to increase the yield and the results achieved? Mr. Nazar Muhammad Gondal: (a) The production of potato and tomato during the last three years with year-wise break- up is as under:ê
Potato (Production ‘000’ tons) Year Production
2007-08 2539.0 2008-09 2941.3 2009-10 3141.4
Tomato (Production ‘000’ tons) Year Production
2007-08 536.2 2008-09 561.9 2009-10 476.8
11 (b) Following steps have been taken to increase the production of potato and tomato and the results achieved. i. The agriculture research institutes in the country are developing high yielding varieties of potato and tomato to increase production. ii. A number of projects have been started at national and provincial levels to increase production of potato and tomato and promotion of new technologies like tunnel vegetable production. iii. Special initiatives are started for strengthening research on production of hybrid varieties of potato and tomato and starting hybrid seed production of potato and tomato. iv. Efforts are underway to enhance supply of certified potato seed to the growers for increasing production. v. Coordination/linkage being developed of public sector tissue culture laboratories & private sector seed companies to promote domestic seed potato production. Resultantly the potato production from 2539 thousand tons (2007-08) has increased to 3141 thousand tons (2009-10). Tomato production from 536 thousand tons (2007-08) increased to 561.9 thousand tons (2008-09). Decrease in production during 2009-10 is mainly due to flood damage to crop in KPK, Sindh and Balochistan. 6. *Senator Dr. Muhammad Ismail Buledi: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) the total number of lady health workers in the country with province-wise break-up;
12 (b) the number of the lady health workers appointed during the last five years with year-wise and province-wise break-up; and (c) the salary, allowances and other fringe benefits admissible to a lady health worker?
Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) Total number of Lady Health Workers (LHWs) is 99,017. Detail is given below:ê êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Province No. of LHWs êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Punjab 49,753 Sindh 22,631 KPK 13,684 Balochistan 6,726 AJK 3,119 Gilgit Baltistan 1,332 FATA 1,437 ICT 335 êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê TOTAL 99,017 êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê (b) Detail of LHWs appointed during last five years is as following; êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Year Province Number of new recruited LHWs êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Punjab 1,154 Sindh 485
13 Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 335 Balochistan 138 2006 AJK 103 Gilgit Baltistan 48 FATA 87 ICT 27 êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê TOTAL 2,377
êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Punjab 3,131 Sindh 1,315 Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 874 Balochistan 381 2007 AJK 163 Gilgit Baltistan 73 FATA 87 ICT 10 êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê TOTAL 6,034
êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Year Province Number of new recruited LHWs êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Punjab 826 Sindh 353 Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 247 Balochistan 98 2008 AJK 47 Gilgit Baltistan 20
14 FATA 26 ICT 5 êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê TOTAL 1,622
êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Punjab 1,023 Sindh 270 Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 175 Balochistan 280 2009 AJK 359 Gilgit Baltistan 82 FATA 118 ICT 62 êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê TOTAL 2,369
êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê Punjab 3,690 Sindh 1,675 Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 1,145 Balochistan 870 2010 AJK 110 Gilgit Baltistan 28 FATA 87 ICT 15 êêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêêê TOTAL 7,620
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(c) The stipend of lady health worker is Rs.7,000/- per month.
15 7. *Senator Col (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to establish more Federal Government Hospitals in Sindh, if so, the details thereof? Makhdoom Shahabuddin: There is a proposal for establishment of 300 bedded hospitals with Trauma Centre, Kemari Town, and District Karachi as Kemari Campus of Jinnah Post Graduate Medical Centre (JPMC) Karachi. The project details are being planned and have yet to be approved. 8. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for Industries and Production be pleased to state the steps being taken by the Government to stabilize the price of sugar in the country? Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani: i. The new sugar season stands commenced. 2,91,000 tons of sugar stands produced on 21st December 2010. At the moment there is 3,59,562 tons of imported sugar with TCP. (21st December 2010). ii. Domestic Sugar Price. The wholesale price of sugar in Akbari Mandi is Rs.66 per kg. iii. Additionally the following steps stand taken to stabilize the price of sugar in the country: (a) 200,000 tons of sugar has been allocated to provinces out of which 75,686 tons has been lifted by them for directly supplying additional sugar in markets through respective provincial mechanisms. (b) Similarly out of Ramadan allocation of 100,000 tons 86,000 tons stand lifted by provinces for direct market intervention. (c) USC was allowed for 100,000 tons of imported sugar for its sale through USC and mobile outlets and
16 Weekly Bazaar in addition to increased supply from USC outlets. (d) To meet future shortages 7 lac tons worth of strategic reserve will be maintained. (e) Furthermore, federal and provincial governments are actively taking steps against hoarders and black marketers and are taking punitive actions against them. (f) As a result of above steps the price of sugar is constantly decreasing as per data provided by Federal Bureau of Statistics. 10. *Senator Prof. Khurshid Ahmed: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) the details of increase made in the prices of medicines in the country during the last three years; and (b) the reasons for high prices of medicines of daily use and that of life saving drugs in the country? Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) No across the board price increase has been allowed since December, 2001 till to date. However, to ensure the availability of life saving drugs, hardship cases are being considered on case to case basis depending upon justification. Only those formulations which become unviable to produce by the manufacturers and/or importers have been granted price increases. Keeping in view devaluation of Pak. Rupee, increase in prices of raw materials of few drugs, packaging materials, energy cost, inflation and labour cost, these hardship cases for price increase were considered and approved by the Federal Government. These cases were evaluated by a 09 membered Drugs Pricing Committee, which has nomination from four Provinces of Pakistan in addition to, Pakistan Medical
17 Association (PMA), civil society (Consumer Rights commission of Pakistan) etc. Pakistan Pharmaceutical Manufacturing Association (PPMA) and Pharma Bureau are observers. Following compelling factors are major reasons for price revision of life saving drugs to ensure the free availability in best public interest. (a) Pak Rupee de-valuation resulting in increased Euro 117% cost of raw materials US $ 45% (b) Cumulative Inflation 120% (c) Increase in prices of Vitamins 15% to 325% (d) Increase in packing materials 30% to 40% (e) Increase in energy cost upto 100% (f) Increase in labour cost Rs.2400/-to Rs.7000/- (180%) (g) Increase in transportation cost upto 50% The year wise details of the cases of price increase is as under:ê Year Number of Case 2008 124 2009 136 2010 101
Note: Multivitamins preparations, Cotton Bandages and Anti T.B drugs have been allowed price increase due to substantial increase in the prices of their raw materials in addition to above mentioned factors. (b) There is a perception that prices of medicines are cheaper in neighboring countries as compared to Pakistan. It is partially true. There are certain drugs which are cheaper in neighboring countries but there are many drugs which are cheaper
18 in Pakistan. In 2007 an apple to apple comparison (multinational to multinational) of 178 essential drugs marketed by multinational companies depicted that 108 (61%) drugs are cheaper in Pakistan whereas 70(39%) drugs are cheaper in India. However, prices of drugs marketed by local companies in India are generally lower than prices of drugs marketed by local companies in Pakistan due to following reasons:ê 1. Raw materials for most commonly used medicines are produced in India whereas in Pakistan share of locally produced raw materials is approximately 5%. 2. India has large scale manufacturing base and industry enjoy much larger economies of scale. 3. India has developed its industrial base for manufacturing of pharmaceutical machinery and excipients which also decrease manufacturing cost of medicines. 4. The conversion cost is also cheaper in India as compared to Pakistan. 11. *Senator Prof. Khurshid Ahmed: Will the Minister, for Food and Agriculture be pleased to state the details of agriculture inputs presently being subsidized indicating also their respective rates and rate of subsidy in each case? Mr. Nazar Muhammad Gondal : Presently, no direct/cash subsidy is being given by the Federal Government on agriculture inputs including seed, fertilizer and pesticides.
12. *Senator Prof. Muhammad Ibrahim Khan: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state the funds provided to each Federal Government hospital since 2008-09?
19 Makhdoom Shahabuddin: The funds provided to each Federal Government hospital under the Ministry of Health since 2008-09 are as follows:ê Rs. in million Federal Government’s Budget Hospitals 2008-09 2009-10 2010-11 Pakistan Institute of Medical 1225.487 1421.584 1584.991 Sciences, Islamabad (PIMS) Federal Govt. Polyclinic, 566.964 658.000 734.109 Islamabad(FGP) Jinnah Postgraduate Medical 749.918 915.000 1004.885 Centre, Karachi (JPMC) National Institute of Child 188.370 223.000 255.114 Health, Karachi.(NICH) National Institute of 73.226 84.000 108.455 Rehabilitation Medicines, Islamabad (NIRM)
13. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for Industries and Production be pleased to state: (a) the number of Franchised Stores which became defaulters of Utility Stores Corporation with district wise break-up; and (b) the amount payable by the said stores? Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani: (a) and (b) The District-wise total number of the Franchised Stores which are defaulters of USC at present along with the amount payable thereof is given hereunder:ê —————————————————————————————— S. No. District Total number of Amount defaulters Franchised Payable (Rs.) Stores —————————————————————————————— 1. Haripur 1 2,468,421.00 2. R.Y Khan 9 3,448,605.00 ——————————————————————————————
20 S. No. District Total number of Amount defaulters Franchised Payable (Rs.) Stores —————————————————————————————— 3. Sialkot 1 270,219.00 4. Sheikhupura 1 300,677.00 5. Khanewal 2 408,137.00 6. Multan 19 2,333,951.00 —————————————————————————————— Total:- 33 9,230,009.00 ——————————————————————————————
12. *Senator Dr. Muhammad Ismail Buledi: Will the Minister for Foreign Affairs be pleased to state the names, educational qualification, experience and place of domicile of the officers working in Pakistan Missions in UK indicating also the salary, allowances and other fringe benefits admissible to them? Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi: The details of the officers posted in the Foreign Office Component of Pakistanãs Missions in UK are as follows: High Commission of Pakistan, London.
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22 2. Other fringe benefits include free furnished accommodation and medical treatment for officers and all dependent members of their family. 15. *Senator Mr. S. M. Zafar: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) the number of polio cases registered in the country during the last five years with province wise and year wise break-up; and (b) the steps being taken by the Government to control the said disease? Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) The number of Polio cases registered in the country during the last five years with province wise and year wise break-up is as follows:ê —————————————————————————————— Province/Region 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 —————————————————————————————— Punjab 2 1 31 17 7
Sindh 12 12 18 12 26
Khyber 9 8 38 29 24 Pakhtunkhwa Federally administered 7 3 14 20 66 tribal areas Balochistan 10 8 11 11 11
Islamabad 0 0 5 0 0 —————————————————————————————— Pakistan 40 32 117 89 134 ——————————————————————————————
(b) Ministry of Health through its National EPI Programme is taking number of steps for control of Polio Diseases. The detail is at Annex-I. Annexure-I
23 The steps being taken by the Ministry of Health to control polio:ê Prime ministerãs action plan focused on intersectoral collaboration to convert polio eradication efforts into a national drive. Intensified inter-sectoral action and advocacy through police, NADRA, cellular phone companies, print and electronic media is in place for polio campaign activities. Ms. Asifa Bhutto zardari nominated as the Ambassador of Polio campaign. Ministry of Health team met IG frontier corps and got support to reach inaccessible areas. Resultantly, there is now gradual increase in access to the insecure areas by our teams during polio campaigns. Training curriculum and methodology reviewed to address service delivery issues at the vaccination teams level. Continued cross border collaboration of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Ministry of Health has conducted a meeting of Inter Provincial committee on Polio on 10th February and 6th December 2010.Federal Health Minister chaired the meeting and provincial health ministers and Secretaries also participated in the meeting. Resources for vaccine and other activities related to polio campaign have been secured from World Bank, WHO and UNICEF for 2010. Three National Immunisation Days (NIDs) and Supplementary National Immunisation Days (SNIDs)
24 have been conducted in 2010 and last NID of 2010 is planned on 28th to 30th Dec. 2010. On the direction of Governor, a Civil-Military Coordination Committee comprising of the EDO (H), Political Agent and the Local Commander of Pakistan Forces under the chairmanship of the Additional Chief Secretary FATA has been established in each agency of FATA to facilitate access for the vaccination teams. The Political Agents and District Coordination Officers are being engaged to lead the polio eradication activities in their areas. Mass campaign with measles and polio vaccines has also been conducted in the flood affected districts. Five nationwide and three sub-national campaigns had been conducted so far in 2010 besides ensuring necessary supplies to the whole country for routine immunization. Frequency and extent of these campaigns were adjusted to mitigate or minimize risks associated with floods. Massive floods are known to flare up pre-existing problems. Regular monitoring of the sensitivity and quality of the AFP surveillance system and issuance of monthly feedback letters from Federal EPI ê MOH to the provincial EPI managers highlighting the areas with sub-optimal performance. The Federal Ministry of Health developed special strategies for further improving the vaccination activities and surveillance in the inaccessible and security compromised areas and high risk migrant populations.
25 The Inter-provincial and Inter Ministerial Committee on polio Eradication under the chairmanship of the Federal Minister of Health decided to link the Payment of the operational cost with performance during post campaign monitoring by the independent monitors (50% payment before the campaign and 50% after achieving the desired level of >90% coverage verified by finger marking). Area specific plans have been developed for the high risk agencies, towns and districts and the implementation is being monitored at the provincial and federal levels through monthly and quarterly review meetings at district, provincial and national level. Bivalent polio vaccine, a new potent polio vaccine is being used in the Supplementary Immunisation Activities (SIAs) since its introduction in February 2010. Special planning meetings of the federal and provincial health ministers with the DCOs and EDOs (H) of the districts of the north Sindh. Regular technical consultations with the partners are a constant feature of the programme. The President has asked the MoH to develop an emergency plan to interrupt poliovirus transmission by end 2011. The MoH has drafted a National Emergency Action Plan 2011 for polio eradication after having Consultative meetings with all stakeholders. The new plan focuses on: i. Enhanced oversight and accountability of the health as well as administrative arm of the government machinery at all levels.
26 ii. Expansion of district specific plans after successful experience in 2010 in areas of Karachi and Balochistan to overcome quality issues and iii. Specific strategies for insecure areas and migratory populations. The plan was presented to the Inter-Provincial Ministerial Committee on Polio (IPCP) on 6th December. Provinces have been requested to send their feedback. There will be intense focus on 33 districts contributing 85% of polio cases in 2009 and 2010. On 3 Nov. a major congregation of >500 Ulema, religious leaders and madrassa students was convened at Sheik Zaid Islamic University, Peshawar. The renowned religious leaders inaugurated November anti- polio campaign in Peshawar. On 16 Nov. Director General Health, Government of Pakistan held a meeting with the Corps Commander in FATA (overall responsible for all military operations in this area) and sought concurrence on a very specific timeline and steps to develop Agency-Specific action plans for completion and joint review on 7th Dec, with first implementation then during the 20-22 Dec. campaign (this is a MAJOR development). The Minister for Health spoke to Chief of Army Staff for support vaccination activities especially in insecure areas and a formal meeting to strategize action will be scheduled after the Moharram holidays.
27 The upcoming activities include a nation wide vaccination campaigns from 28 to 30 December followed by an aggressive campaigns schedule in the first five months of 2011. 16. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for industries and Production be pleased to state: (a) the names of the car manufacturing companies in the country at present; and (b) the names, types and prices of cars being manufactured by each of the said companies? Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani : (a) Car manufacturing companies are as under:ê 1. M/s. Pak Suzuki Motors Company Ltd. Karachi 2. M/s. Honda Atlas Cars Ltd., Lahore 3. M/s. Indus Motor Company Ltd., Karachi 4. M/s. Dewan Motors Ltd., Sajawal, Sind (Not in Production) 5. M/s. Ghandhara Industries Ltd., Karachi (Not in Production) 6. M/s. Nexus Automotive Pvt. Ltd., Karachi (Not in Production)
(b) Names, types and prices of cars are as under:—
Pak Suzuki Motor Company Ltd. Models Price in Rs. Mehran VX 443,000 Mehran VXR 495,000 Mehran VX CNG 489,000 Mehran VXR CNG 539,000 Alto VXR 643,000 Alto VXR CNG 692,000 Cultus VXRi CNG 878,000 Cultus VXLi 865,000 Cultus VXLi CNG 912,000 Liana RXI MT 1,129,000 Liana RXI MT CNG 1,199,000 Liana LXI CNG 1,240,000 Swift 1,058,000
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Honda Atlas Cars Ltd. Models Price in Rs. Civic i-VTEC M.T 1,663,000 Civic i-VTEC PT 1,784,000 Civic VTI Oriel MT 1,845,000 Civic VTI Oriel PT 1,920,000 City MT 1,315,000 City AT 1,446,000 Indus Motor Company Ltd. Models Price in Rs. Corolla XLI 1,354,000 Corolla GLI 1,479,000 Diesel 2.O.D 1,400,000 Diesel 2.O.D 1,740,000 Altis 1.8 MT 1,740,000 Altis 1.8 AT 1,830,000 Cuore CX 700,000
17. *Senator Abdul Ghaffar Qureshi: Will the Minister for Livestock and Dairy Development be pleased to state the reasons for sharp increase in the prices of fish, chicken and meat in the country? Mr. Humayun Aziz Kurd: The prices of chicken and meat have increased in the country. The average price of beef, chicken & mutton has increased by 21.15% , 8.53% and 25.19% respectively over the last year. The reasons that attributed to increase in price of chicken & meat include the following: (i) The increased input costs like animal feed and fodder, electricity, fuel/transportation, veterinary medicines/ vaccines, poultry feed(contribute 65-70% in total cost of
29 poultry production), day old chicks etc. led to an overall increase in cost of production meat animals attributing to increased prices. (ii) Middleman (Livestock traders and Butchers) exploit the livestock farmers by taking his major share of profit and depriving him from due share. The control of livestock prices is the mandate of District and Provincial Governments. (iii) There is an overall increasing trend in the Consumerãs Price Index over a period of time. Its impact has been reflected in overall increase in the prices of essential commodities and meat (beef, chicken & mutton) is not an exception. (iv) The consumption of chicken and meat is highly income elastic. The increase in per capita income and increased urban population has caused increased demand of meat (beef, chicken & Mutton) which has ultimately led to increased prices. (v) The prices of fish as shown increasing trend in the past few years because the prices of all inputs including fuel for operation of fishing boats in case of capture fisheries and for operation of pumps for filling up of aquaculture ponds as increased substantially. Increased in electricity rates for its use in aquaculture and for fish processing and handling has also resulted in increase of fish prices. Increase in prices of other inputs like feed in aquaculture and ice used on fishing boats as substantially been increased. In addition, high prices offered for Pakistani seafood in international market has resulted in increased export /transportation
30 which has also affected supply in local market, thus resulting in increased prices. 18. *Senator Abdul Ghaffar Qureshi: Will the Minister for Livestock and Dairy Development be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that an injection is administered to animals to increase produce of milk which causes adverse effects on the health of animals and human beings; and (b) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to impose a ban on the use of the said injection? Mr. Humayun Aziz Kurd : (a) Yes, oxytocin injections are administered to animals to enhance milk lactation in the world including Pakistan. however, International literature has documented a controversial opinion on the adverse effects on the health of ininials and human beings of using such injections in milking animals. (b) This injection is widely used for delivery purpose in pregnant women. No proposal for banning, of such injection is under consideration by M/o Health at the moment; however, if evidenced based research is available, banning such injections can be considered by M/o Health. 19. *Senator Muhammad Ismail Buledi: Will the Minister for Foreign Affairs be pleased to state the name, educational qualifications, experience and place of domicile of the Pakistan High Commissioner in Italy indicating also the salary, allowances and other fringe benefits admissible to him?
31 Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi: The particulars of the Ambassador posted in the Embassy of Pakistan in Italy is as follows:ê Name Educational Salary/ Domicile qualifications Allowances US$ Ms. Tasnim Aslam, Masters in 3503 AJK Ambassador Business Edu. MA (Int. Rel) Scholarship (Fletcher School of Law & Dip) 2. Other fringe benefits include free furnished accommodation and medical treatment for the officer and all dependent members of his family. 20. *Senator S. M. Zafar: Will the Minister for Foreign Affairs be pleased to state: (a) the names of countries where Pakistani ambassadors are not posted indicating also the reasons for not posting ambassadors there; and (b) the names and other particulars of Pakistani career and non career ambassador posted abroad? Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi: (a) A proposal is under process for approval of the Prime Minister to appoint new Ambassadors/High Commissioner for the following vacant Missions:
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1. Algeria Vacated by Mr. Mohammad Hafeez superannuated on 14-11-2010. 2. Australia Vacated by Ms. Fauzia Nasreen superannuated on 05-12-2010.
32 3. Cuba Vacated by Mr. Najm-us-Saqib upon transfer to the Headquarters in July 2010. 4. Libya Vacated by Mr. Jamil Ahmed Khan on 12-11-2010 to join new assignment in Abu Dhabi as Ambassador. 5. Iran Vacated by Mr. M. B. Abbasi after expiry of contract in October 2010. (b) The details of career and non-career Ambassadors / High Commissioners posted abroad are given as Annex “A”.
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22. *Senator S. M. Zafar: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the Global Fund and the World Bank have withdrawn their financial support for the prevention of HIV-Aids in Pakistan;
36 (b) the financial support given by the foreign organizations for such project; and (c) the present state of affair of the spread of HIV-Aids in Pakistan? Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) No. The Global fund and the World Bank are still committed to provide financial support for prevention of HIV/AIDS in Pakistan. (b) World Bank and DFID have provided around Rs 2429 Million for HIV/AIDS prevention in the country in past 6 years. (c) There are 97,400 HIV positive cases in the country. Out of these 4000 HIV cases are registered with 14 HIV treatment centers across the country. With increasing awareness about HIV in the country, more people are now being tested and diagnosed/suffering from HIV/AIDS disease. 23. *Senator Haji Ghulam Ali: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) whether 2% quota reserved for disabled persons has been observed in appointments made in the Ministry of Health, its attached departments and subordinate offices during the last two years; (b) the names, parentage, designation, grade and place of domicile of the persons appointed against that quota in the Ministry, departments and offices during that period; and (c) the number of vacant posts against the said quota in the Ministry, departments and offices with grade wise break up and the time by which the same will be filled in?
37 Makhdoom Shahabuddin: (a) Yes. The 2% disabled quota has been observed. (b) The information may kindly be seen as below:ê
(i) M /o Health (Main), Ibd Annex-A (ii) JPMC, Karachi Annex-B (iii) NIRM, lbd Annex-C (iv) FGPC, lbd Annex-D (v) PIMS, lbd Annex-E (vi) T.B Centre, Rawalpindi Annex-F (vii) Directorate of Malaria Control Annex-G
(c) Any vacant posts in the Ministry and its departments are filled in from time to time as and when any such post becomes available. (Annexures have been placed on the Table of the House as well as
Library) 24. *Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi: Will the Minister for Health be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that there is no mechanism to monitor/ regulate the manufacturing and sale of medicines of homeopathy, Tibb-e-Unani and Hikmat; (b) the steps being taken by the Government to check manufacturing and sale of sub standard medicines of homeopathy, Tibb-e-Unani and Hikmat in the country; and (c) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to establish an authority to monitor / regulate the manufacturing and sale of the said medicines, if so, the details thereof?
38 Makhdoom Shahabuddin : (a) Presently, there is no mechanism to monitor/ regulate the manufacturing and sale of medicines of Homoeopathy, Tibb-e-Unani and Hikmat. (b) It is to state that government is considering proposal to check/regulate manufacturing /sale of homoeopathy, Tibb-e-Unani and Hikmat medicines. A Bill was moved in the National Assembly on 25-02-2005 to regulate the manufacture, import, export, storage, distribution and sale of Unani, Ayurvedic, Homoeopathic, Herbal and other non-allopathic medicines. The then Standing Committee of National Assembly on Health cleared the said Bill for approval by the National Assembly, but it could not be taken up during the tenure of the previous Parliament. Now the Ministry of Health has prepared an updated and comprehensive bill on the subject after removing the deficiencies in the previous bill & involving National Assemblyãs Standing Committee on Health, and all other stakeholders. Once the proposed Bill is passed by the Parliament and promulgated as law, further action to implement the regulatory mechanism provided therein will be taken, accordingly. (c) As stated at (b) above. 25. *Senator Haji Ghulam Ali: Will the Minister for Foreign Affairs be pleased to state: (a) whether 2% quota reserved for disabled persons has been observed in appointments made in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, its attached departments and subordinate offices during the last two years; (b) the names, parentage, designation, grade and place of domicile of the persons appointed against that quota in the Ministry, departments and offices during that period; and
39 (c) the number of vacant posts against the said quota in the Ministry, departments and offices with grade wise break up and the time by which the same will be filled in? Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi: Information is being collected and will be placed before the house at the earliest possible. 1. Senator Prof. Khurshid Ahmed: Will the Minister for Industries and Production be pleased to state the names, designation, educational qualifications and place of domicile of the persons working in Pakistan Steel Mills, Karachi? Mir. Hazar Khan Bijarani : The information asked for by the honourable Senator requires detailed working is being arranged and would be provided on next Rota Day. Mr. Chairman: The motion is carried. Now we take Leave Applications. Leave of Absence ` 0 L th 0 L L ;0 t u µ´ L W W L V I L 4S¶.± >466 4+:x ,4,47UJ 1 ::.1 4k 44R79 ² =‚³ 4k>[44^.I 7 ™ 4=j3´ 5 4[3 ‡ 4A74‚ g ± „E >[44:B9Ml 4‚„:9 J 4R7. :.I L 0 L ` L L 8 0 L 8 8 0 0 L 4?·e;X 4? 4]3»9 <74]>4?F L H 4]3 h8 >4Y? ¹º 4?a 4,4B; 9MN 44¸‚4B; ¼ 9 M l 4S¶>4‚.± . „… 34 H 25 47F 423 4+± <3t 4]><=[4?L ; o L LLL 0 t 0;LLL ; 0 ; 0 ˚?@Ge 477j4<3F l• p 4^¾I <4k 4]>4]>3>4+479 H9 F 9 : ; 4Y?@ G 4k 4^ x >3 I <[4k 4^ ¾ I <4? x 4]>3> 9 H V o L 0 L ( ( \nU 4k; 4<3 pet4^¾I < ) ` L th 0 L L ; LL nGP ´ M Á L M V I L 466 4+:x ,4,47U1JJ:.1 4k4?H 34‚74?PG P {. F x 4i4]746Àl ± 9 >,>4A. 191-µ 4‚ ¿ =, : B9 l ‚„:9 J 4R7. :.I L 0 L ` L L 8 0 L 8 8 0 L 4]3»9 <74]>4?F L H 4]3 h8 >4Y? ¹ 4? º a 4,4B; 9MN 44¸‚4B; ¼ 9 M l 4S¶>4‚.± . „… 34 H 26 4<=>425 4+± <3t 4]><=[4?L ; 4S¶.± > o L LLL 0 t 0;LLL ; 0 ; 0 X ˚?@G 47 F7j4<3 l• pe 4^¾I <4k 4]>4]>3>4+479 H9 F 9 : ; 4Y?@ G 4k 4^ x >3 I <[4k 4^ ¾ I <4? xe; 4]>3>4?· 9 H 4? V o L 0 L ( ( \nU 4k; 4<3pet 4^¾I < )
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42 that they have restored the Character of the 1973 Constitution and that we have moved truly towards a Federal Parliamentary Democracy. Sir, The Constitution 19 th Amendment Bill finds its origin in the fact that after the 18 th Amendment was unanimously passed by the both Houses of Parliament and that there was not a single dissenting vote in either the National Assembly or the Senate and after the President gave assent to it, certain provisions of the 18 th Amendment were challenged in the Supreme Court of Pakistan through various constitutional petitions. In particular Article 175(A) which dealt with the new procedure for the appointment of Judges which provided for a transparent and institutionalized mechanism for the appointment of Judges was also challenged. The honourable Supreme Court during the course of the hearings of the petitions on the 21 st October, 2010 passed an order and asked Parliament to reconsider Article 175(A) with certain observations and arguments that had been advanced while the main petition was being heard. The Supreme Court also said that in the order dated 21 st October, 2010 that Article 175 (A) has in fact come into effect and that with certain constructions which were specified in the order they said that all future appointments in the superior judiciary would be made in accordance with Article 175(A) read with the construction that they had given in the said order. And therefore, that process has now started. The moment the order was passed, the Parliamentary Committee on Constitutional Reforms made a reference to the Speaker of the National Assembly, who had originally constituted the Parliamentary Committee through two resolutions which had been passed by both the Houses that what was the status of the Committee.
43 The Speaker of the National Assembly said that the Committee continued to exist as it has not been denotified after the 18 th Constitutional Amendment and under Rule 199 of the National Assembly, she referred the Bill to the Committee for consideration in terms of the order dated 21 st October. Mr. Chairman, the Committee met on the 1 st November and took up consideration of the Bill. The Committee discussed in great detail the order and in particular paragraphs 8, 9 and 10 of the order which dealt with various suggestions and observations which the honourable Supreme Court had made. The Committee met for seven formal meetings apart from a number of informal meetings that took place so that a detailed consideration of the order of the Supreme Court could be carried out and the basic underlying fact that was prevailing in the minds of the members of the Parliamentary Committee was to ensure that the independence of the judiciary is not impeded upon, was to ensure that there was a transparent mode of appointment that could come about.
The Committee also kept in mind that the functions as defined in the Constitution in terms of the trichotomy also to be kept in mind and therefore, Mr. Chairman, as a consequence of that the Committee prepared its report and submitted it to the National Assembly. On the 21 st, the committee recommended the Bill to the National Assembly that passed the Bill on the 22 nd of December, 2010. The Bill was then received from the National Assembly by the Senate of Pakistan on the 23 rd of December,2010. The Bill was circulated to the members on the 23 rd of December, 2010. The report of the Parliamentary Committee was also circulated to the members on the 23 rd of December and notice of the Bill was circulated to the members also on the 23 rd of
44 December, 2010. Very briefly Mr. Chairman, the Bill itself seeks to amend certain Articles of the Constitution which are Article 81, 175(A), 182, 213 and 246 of the Constitution. Essentially these amendments are to Article 175(A) and the others are ancillary to the amendments that have been made to Article 175(A) of the Constitution. Mr. Chairman, Article 81 needed to be amended for the simple fact that after the 18 th Amendment which created the Islamabad High Court in subsequent legislation, it was necessary that the expenditure of the Islamabad High Court be put on the Federal Consolidated Fund and therefore, Article 81 was amended accordingly. Article 175 of the Constitution then was also required to be amended because there the word äIslamabad High Courtã was not included before High Court, that is now included and therefore, it was necessary to amend Article 175 of the Constitution. Article 175 (A) of the Constitution was amended in the light of the order of the Supreme Court dated 21 st of October, 2010. Here basically the number of Judges in the Judicial Council was, initially under the 18 th amendment, two that has now been increased to four. We had provided that a member of the Bar Council, the provincial Bar Council would be a member of the provincial Judicial Commission but we had said, it would be a Senior Advocate. Now we have given a limit of 15 years practice in the High Court and therefore, that amendment was also necessitated. Mr. Chairman, then there are amendments which were required in Clauses 6 and in Clause 9. The amendment in Clause 9 that a new proviso shall be inserted namely: åProvided that when the National Assembly is dissolved the total membership of the Parliamentary Committee shall consist of the members from the Senate only mentioned in paragraph 1 and the provisions of this
45 Article shall mutatis mutandis applyç. This was pointed out in the order of the Supreme Court but I would like to make a point here Mr. Chairman, that when the 18 th amendment was being passed, this question was debated and it was thought appropriate by the committee that since now time limits have been given of elections within 90 days and then subsequently, the Assembly being summoned within 14 days, the total period would be about 3 and half months and therefore, it was considered that the appointment of Judges is a very sensitive issue, is an issue which is sensitive in nature therefore, it was thought appropriate that the entire committee should meet but since the order pointed this out and thought that this was lacuna therefore, the Committee decided to bring about this amendment in Clause 9 which is analogist to the amendment in Article 213 for the appointment of the Chief Election Commissioner that when the National Assembly stands dissolved then the member of the Senate would be member of it. Then Mr. Chairman, in Clause 12 it was also pointed out in the order that reasons should be recorded by the Parliamentary Committee in case it disagrees with a recommendation that has come from the Judicial Commission. So, to that effect Article 12 has been amended. Further Mr. Chairman, it was also observed in the order that there is no role for the Prime Minister and therefore, the role for the Prime Minister has been provided in Clause 12 whereby the recommendations would now be routed through him. Then it was also pointed out that the meeting should be held in camera that has been provided in Clause 15 and it had also been said that the provisions of Article 68 are hindrance for the Committee to carry on its deliberations, so, Clause 16 provides that to the extent of the proceedings of the Parliamentary Committee Article 68 would not be applicable. Then Mr. Chairman, Article 182 of the Constitution which
46 deals with the appointment of adhoc Judges is being alleged that the powers of the Chief Justice have been curtailed which in fact is not correct. What has been done is that previously, it was that the Chief Justice would make a request but now it is that the Chief Justice in consultation with the Judicial Commission would make a request for the members. Article 213 has just been clarified to that extent and lastly, Article 246 of the Constitution; this was, I will admit, an oversight on our part. In the 18 th Amendment, we had added these two Districts in Clause 1 of Article 246 whereas in actual fact it should have been in sub-paragraphs 3 and 4 of that, so, to that extent when this was pointed out we have made the amendment. Finally Mr. Chairman, I think, I would be failing in my duty if I donãt express my gratitude to all of the members of the Parliamentary Committee on Constitutional Reforms who on 18 th amendment applied themselves and it was due to their political sagacity, it was due to their political foresight and it was due to their expertise that the Committee was able to unanimously and I would repeat the word äunanimouslyã made these recommendations for the 19 th Constitutional Amendment Bill which was then put before the National Assembly and with one dissenting vote, the National Assembly passed this Bill and now this Bill has been transmitted to the Senate and it is before the Senate. Today it would be, through you, my humble request to all the honourable members to pass this Bill unanimously keeping the tradition of unanimity alive. Thank you sir. Mr. Chairman: Wasim Sajjad sahib. Senator Wasim Sajjad : Mr. Chairman, I am grateful to you for allowing me this opportunity to make submissions on the
47 very important 19 th Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan. I had the privilege of being a member of the Constitutional Committee which has made unanimous recommendations to Parliament that this Bill be passed. As you know Mr. Chairman, the background of this Bill is that under the 18 th Amendment to the Constitution, certain very vital and important changes were made to the Constitution. There are four areas that I would like to mention in which changes were made. One is, that the discretionary powers of the President were transferred to the Prime Minister, which in my humble opinion means, transferred to the Parliament because the Prime Minister represents the Parliament and therefore, any power which is conferred on the Prime Minister, is in fact a power conferred on the Parliament. No.2, an attempt was made to grant more powers to the provinces. In this process, the Concurrent List was abolished and many items in the Constitution which gave powers to the Federation were, in fact transferred to the provinces, which show that the country is maturing. Now there is this belief all around that strong provinces will make a strong federation. No.3, the Election Commission was strengthened, the term of the Chief Election Commissioner was increased to five years and the method of appointment was such that no Chief Election Commissioner or Member of the Election Commission can be indebted to a government, a party, a Prime Minister or even the President for his appointment. The appointment is now vested in the members of Parliament. They have stake in this matter, when they appoint, the Commission will be one which will have the confidence of the members of Parliament.
48 No.4, important changes were made in the manner of appointment of judges of the superior courts. By superior courts, we are referring to the honourable Judges of the Supreme Court, the High Court and the Federal Shariat Court. These matters were challenged before the Supreme Court and in a number of petitions where the main attack was made on the manner of appointment of judges, it has been said that in the new method which has been adopted, somehow the independence of the judiciary has been affected. There was a lengthy argument and lengthy debate on this. I am glad that there was also a public debate on this. I would briefly sum up to say that a judge who is appointed to the superior court, who enjoys the confidence of the Judiciary, who enjoys the confidence of the Executive, who enjoys the confidence of the Parliament, who enjoys the confidence of the Government and the Opposition, he will definitely be a judge who is more confident, who will have total independence to decide the matter in accordance with the law and the Constitution. The Supreme Court of Pakistan made certain observations. These observations were duly considered by the Parliament as rightly was required and expected. Full respect was shown to the observations of the honourable Supreme Court and most of the suggestions which were made, which in my humble opinion have improved the functioning of the system, have been incorporated in the 19 th Amendment. The details have already been given by the honourable Raza Rabbani sahib. I must complement him for the manner in which he has conducted the meetings of the Committee. Despite all this, I would like to take this opportunity to say that the Parliament has shown immense maturity in agreeing to certain suggestions which we believe are in the national interest. Now, that so much maturity has been exhibited by this Parliament,
49 it is time that the real issues which confront the nation and I would like to mention too, the economy needs to be considered in depth by the entire Parliament so that we can take the right decisions. At this moment, we feel that the economy needs a lot of consideration. There is a lot of concern being shown all over the country. This is not the occasion for me to dwell at length on that but this is an area which needs consideration of all the members of Parliament. No.2, the terrorism and law & order situation which prevails throughout the country has put the country at hostage. It is affecting the investment climate, not only investors outside but investors within Pakistan. It has an impact on the employment opportunities, on the general economic picture and on the confidence of the people in the economy of Pakistan. These two issues need to be addressed. Our leader Ch. Shujaat Hussain has been suggesting time and again that these issues need an all parties conference where people can sit together because the people expect us to come up with solutions to the problems which are facing the country. The next issue on which I feel that the Parliament needs to put its heads together is that there are certain suggestions being made, my friend Haroon Khan has put an amendment making some suggestions, Ch. Shujaat Hussain has come up with certain suggestions in which we feel that the Constitution needs to be further amended so that it can come up to the aspirations of the people and meet the challenges which are being faced by the country at this time. There are suggestions from all quarters e.g. a suggestion that the provisions regarding party elections should be incorporated in the Constitution. At that time, we felt that perhaps the law was sufficient to deal with this matter but now there is a strong demand to put it in the Constitution. I donãt see any reason
50 why this matter cannot be considered in the next constitutional amendment. There is a suggestion that education is a matter which needs to be dealt with at the federal level, also at the provincial level but to bring uniformity in the system, to bring the country together and to give unity to the system. These are all suggestions. On some of them, there may be consensus and on some of them, there may not be a consensus but I would urge Mr. Raza Rabbani that any suggestion coming from any member of the House, because now we can see there is a certain maturity being shown by the members of Parliament, any suggestion which may come should be duly considered. We should come up with agreed amendments so that if something can strengthen the country, the federation or our democratic and political system, we should all welcome it. Having said that, I do not want to dwelll in too much detail because this Bill is only dealing with certain amendments to the Constitution in pursuance of judgement of the honourable Supreme Court. We have unanimously made recommendations and I would recommend that these may be passed. Mr. Chairman : Thank you. Haji Adeel sahib. L D ` M L M VJI 0 ´ ´ W M x 4i>469 F P 4Y]3 PG 4<3 º b t 47m 4RQ>4BJ 9 l ! ^7. I ™ 4B9 l ‚„:9 4Ì‚ „~ : ÇA4A9F c - µ 4\74‚./ ± „:9 9: 0 0 0 0 I nt 1 M nt 1 nt 1 0 4+ÝÊet 4Ãj4v46Ô . 9 ,4B=1 9 18 4YB9 {P 4?@G <,4; table 469 ,4B=1 9 19 4ÃQ>4A. †.H 4?; 469 ,4B=1 9 18 4˘j¹J8 4+. :1 j ´ W W L L W V o L L În9M.F n M-J€ h€ Ma nM-€ I u t 4R7. :.I 44Y\ 4\9 4Z=4Z<7=[4,4?. FJJ1e 4? ; 4+. :I 7 ™:m 4, º9: >4˘79 ; 4Ì74,4 1 S>4?H 4\9 4v. 4<=>4k34<3PG p e 4,4<3J1 Ô ` L 0 Ml W 8s.H ; n t 1 Ëc L Ml V JI 479:U 47 9 : ; 4 challenge 4B9 4R<346‚;9J „a 434]3 ; f x 4Þ 4k 46 9 ,4B=1 9 18 4+E 4?@G 46 434RQ>; J ! B9 ‚ „:9 L L 0 0 ` 0 L L º:X o ´ ² L Æ et ÅU n 1 0 8 W 8 0 4B9 47É:€ <4ß3Ê» 4+Àá9e 47J1 >4?H 4]3 hH8 >434à† 4? ; 4]3 f x 44\74+4k34\. F± EP G.; 74‚. „N 4R<346‚9 J „a 4+9 F 4Y7 É 8 L L 0 0 0 0 0 ` ² 0et uL ; L 0 / H I 4+Àá9e 4i>4?9 F H 4]3h8 >4,4S>4˘7J1†É:8 4àÆ 4? x 4k79M†H 4<=>4˜
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61 Committee reconsidered this in light of the order of the Supreme Court. I must commend it Mr. Chairman, Mian Raza Rabbani, he deserves our congratulations in the way that he handles and manages to go above party lines and produces these consensus decisions. So, in order to streamline the recommendations of the Committee in 175(A), they had to amend Articles 81, 175, 175(A), 182, 213 and 246. So, now the amendment has come before this House. It is a consensus amendment which has come here. It enhances the honour, dignity and prestige of the Parliament. In the order of the honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan, the remarks passed by the honourable judges, they also enhanced the prestige of Parliament for which this Parliament should be grateful. The order that they passed was very sagacious, wise, visionary and it brought not only the question if it was ever in doubt as to the supremacy of the Parliament, it settled it for once and for all but it also enhanced the dignity and honour of the Supreme Court itself in the eyes of the people of Pakistan and this Parliament of Pakistan. We are only concerned with the Supreme Court order as far as the 19 th Amendment is concerned but I will add my voice to the honourable Members who have spoken before me, actually we should have ceased on many issues in the 18 th Amendment which require the Parliament to look into it and we require amendments in the Constitution in the light of the demands of the people of Pakistan. The expectations, dreams and aspirations of the people of Pakistan which have not been done, that should be done as quickly as possible, especially, this agriculture tax. This whole nation is agreed on this that there should not be two different societies in Pakistan; one is exempted from Income Tax and the other is burdened by the Income Tax. The landed gentry, the ä jagirdars0, the
62 landlords or 1waderasã, the big land holders, they are paying hardly any tax whatsoever, just because they have a protection in the Constitution of Pakistan and that needs to be amended, of course, and it should have been brought into this amendment but unfortunately, it hasnãt. I hope it should come as quickly as possible. Another thing, I would like to mention is that the spirit of the 18 th Amendment was that when you put people on the Committees, in the Judicial Committee and in the Election Commission of Pakistan, the people of Pakistan, as a whole, through the political parties would be represented and unfortunately, we see that on the Judicial Council, the nominations were heavily on one side and even on the Election Commission, parties have been ignored, who should have at least a representation of one person to make them more effective and make them more fair. In the end, I fully support this 19 th Amendment. Mutehida Qaumi Movement has supported it at both the stages, before this in the Committee and also in the National Assembly and we will vote for it in the Senate and we call upon everyone once again to come up to the expectations of the people and pass a good Bill with consensus. Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Professor Khurshid sahib. L V L` nI / • . H ` L W 4?x 4^x 44YBLL9Ml ‚„:9 JI 4R7.I 4+,F ºa 44Y69 ,>4B XŽ ‡ ,>4_>46 X 4 / x I ¿9MÁ 1 „:9 M 9:x . . : 9 0 :A- >4A9 : <3 4‚ =,J 4‚ nt 0 W L ` »8 L 0 469 ,4S>4^19eM9:x 4+E 474]=,4vz ;9MJF 4B L 9Mb 4Ã>,4344. I ; Business Committee 4<=>43; 4RQ>4BJ 9Ml 43 H 4?ÆN8 Ï L o L L 0 ; D MN.8 t ` ` 8 Ml L n1 44ÃjÔ 4˜<3JH 43 ; 4 impact 4<=>44Z3.I =44k 4S>4+ÖÀ.F 4 \<4,4BP ; 9 4<3pe 4+:.I 7.:t 4=4^» 4¶4F B9 4<>AF >4\9 >=<43 ; ` L o L Y Y _>4¸7bH >4kU 4T,; 4<3pet 4, ; 4•4B9Ml 4limelight
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Mr. Chairman: Thank you. It has been moved that Bill to further amend the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan [The Constitution (Nineteenth Amendment) Bill, 2010] , be taken into consideration. (The motion was carried)
Mr. Chairman: We may now take the second reading of the Bill, that is clause by clause consideration of the Bill. The question is that Clause 2 do form part of the Bill. Count be made. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman: 75 members have voted in favour of Clause 2 and one member against it. (The motion was carried)
Mr. Chairman: Clause 2, therefore, forms part of the Bill. Clause-3, the question is that Clause-3, the question is is that Clause-3 do form part of the Bill. All those members who are in favour of Clause-3 may rise in their seats. Count be made. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : Members may take their seats. All those members against Clause-3 may rise in their seats. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : 80 members have voted in favour of Clause-3 and none has voted against it. So, the motion is carried unanimously. Clause-3, therefore, forms part of the Bill.
94 Clause-4, the question is that Clause-4 do form part of the Bill. All those members who are in favour of Clause-4 may rise in their seats. Count be made. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : Members may please take their seats. All those members against Clause-4 may rise in their seats. Count be made, if any. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : 80 members have voted in favour of Clause-4 and none has voted against it. So, the motion is carried unanimously. Clause-4, therefore, forms part of the Bill. Clause-5, the question is that Clause-5 do form part of the Bill. All those members who are in favour of Clause-5 may rise in their seats. Count be made. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : Members may take their seats. All those members against Clause-5 may rise in their seats. Count be made. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : 80 members have voted in favour of Clause-5 and none has voted against it. So, the motion is carried unanimously. Clause-5, therefore, forms part of the Bill. Clause-6, the question is that Clause-6 do form part of the Bill. All those members who are in favour of Clause-6 may rise in their seats. Count be made. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : Members may take their seats. All those members against Clause-6 may rise in their seats. Count be made. (Count was made)
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98 the proposed amendment being out of scope of the Bill is ruled out of order. Now, the question is that Clause 7 do form part of the Bill. Count be made. (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : 80 members, including the member who had proposed amendments have voted in favor of Clause 7 and none against it. (The motion was carried)
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101 L V L V MF M l ‡ | n1 | u 434>A.INˆ 4YB 9 744B4]3÷X 9 9 eÆ.: >4\J >4]79 :Æ.:‡ >4k73. F × 4 agricultural income tax 4 Z=4 +E 4 ?@G L ;L0 0 L M º X 4k 4R74S>434^F; . I 7 ™ 4‚„õ >4]=<74BP {±9 l 4C7 ‚ ê.8 4B9: 4?@G 4+4Z=9 F 4? @G constitutional position . 0 V W € L 0 because I am also now 4]34BPPGL 9Ml ‚„:9 JI 474\mn9M- 4B 9 M l 4,[4\91 n M ±. 4+E 44]347 G : 91 [44 assurance 4j¹J8 4BL º9:X 44going to be requesting that I would like to hang up the gloves 0 0 L 8 and whoever my successor would be, I will more 4]3PG 4B9Ml 4i4,[4\F 91 nM±. 4\ Î . V 8 4\Î. 4k34,>4+44u ; U E certainly convey this assurance which we are giving 0 0 U nt Parliamentary Committee on 434S>4344k3446; HP G 9 ,447441 9F suggestion V then it will take it up.474?zH 747. ±9 : ; 4refer 43; 4Constitutional Reforms Mr. Chairman : Haroon Sahib, are you pressing your amendment? Yes, please. L W L V t Ml 0 ; u L LLL M:x 4+E 44?@G 4+4+9 F À :Ä 44Y?@ G 4substance 4B9 4R74k..F 4^. I 7 ™F™ 4k7<47 < : ]7± 4]=<7P { 4‚ „:9 9 L Î8 4,J1 44 Provincial Government 4?H 44 Federal Government 4479F Q>44 issue 4+9 F 4\. 4^ . .I L L L L W 4w.I 3.H 4]7.± 4?H 4]3 h 8 > 4+E 479F [4C>[4,J1 4Federal Government 4? H Provincial Government W ; D L 44tax 43; 4422% to GDP 4S>4+E 4?@G 4political will 4k 4]39e1 <74^JF. x 46PP 4ÃQ>4,. U >4Y?@G 4>3 G 4•7 y H 4, ; V V 0 V 4˘?H 7÷X 44Federal Government 474?9FH 744 ÷ X Provincial Government 4Z=4?@G 74344?J±H H 747. ±9 : ; V W o 0 M 8 äq L 0 44YB9Ml 4?ÆbÆa 4S>4B 9 M g 44assurance 4?xH¹ 4]>434BL H9M{P.P 4? 34?P G n ·.F 4\Î. 4^7. I 46 >4,<=4ÃQ>4YB91 9 M { 4? e ºa 47X 4Z= ™L ÷ W ; L L ; u L Ml honourable 4˜,.1 44commitment 4k 4]>4+ÖF 39e; 4,44J1 commitment 4k 4^. I 7™ 4k7<47. F ™ <4B 9 he is an honourable Senator and I will go along with 4˘?@G 4 commitment that but I will request the honourable Prime Minister if in his speech, he can add a word about that. So, I would not press it any further. Mr. Chairman : Thank you. So, the amendment which has been moved by Senator Haroon Khan is not pressed and stands disposed of accordingly. We may now take up Clause 1, Preamble and Title of the Bill. The question is that Clause 1, Preamble and Title do form part of the Bill. Count be made.
102 (Count was made)
Mr. Chairman : 80 members have voted in favour of Clause 1, Preamble and Title and none has voted against it. (The motion was carried.)
Mr. Chairman : So, the Motion is carried unanimously, Clause 1, Preamble and Title, therefore, form part of the Bill. Now, come to the third passage of the Bill. Mian Raza Rabbani Sahib, please move Item No.4. Senator Mian Raza Rabbani : Thank you Mr. Chairman I beg to move that the Bill further to amend the Constitution of the lslamic Republic of Pakistan [The Constitution (Nineteenth Amendment) Bill, 2010 ] be passed. Mr. Chairman : It has been moved that the Bill further to amend the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan [The Constitution (Nineteenth Amendment) Bill, 2010 ] be passed. As per rule the decision of the motion will be by division. The procedure regarding voting by division is mentioned in third schedule of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Senate, 1988. As per procedure the division bells will be rung for two minutes to enable the members not present in the Chamber to return to their places; immediately after the bells stop ringing, all the entrances to the lobby will be locked and the Senate staff posted at each entrance will not allow any entry or exit through these entrances until the division has concluded. I will then put the motion before the House and the members who are in favour of the motion will move to the right and against it to the left divide. According as they wish to vote, members will then proceed to the åAyesç or the åNoesç lobby and there pass in single file before the tellers appointed by the Chairman. On reaching the desk
103 of the tellers, each member will, in turn, call out the division number which we allotted to him for this purpose. The tellers will then mark off this number on the division list simultaneously calling out the name of the member. In order to ensure that his vote has been properly recorded, the member should not move off until he has clearly heard the teller thus call out his name. The division number allotted to each member has been communicated separately which is marked on the seat-card of each member. When the voting process will be completed in the division lobbies, the tellers will present division lists to the Secretary who will count the votes recorded thereon and then present the total of the åAyesç and åNoesç to Chairman. The Chairman will then announce the result to the House. The division will not be at an end until the result is so announced. So the division bells may be rung for two minutes to enable members present in the chamber to return to their places. (Bells were rung for two minutes.)
Mr. Chairman : All the entrances to the lobby may be locked. (Pause)
Mr. Chairman : I will now put the motion before the House. The question is that the Bill further to amend the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan [The Constitution (Nineteenth Amendment) Bill, 2010 ] , be passed. The honourable members along with their division numbers may please move either to the äAyesã to my right or äNoesã to my left as they wish. (Pause)
Mr. Chairman : Voting has been completed. I request the Secretary to collect the record and count the votes.
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Mr. Chairman : Members are requested to resume their seats please. (Pause)
Mr. Chairman : I will now announce the result of voting. 80 members are in favour of the motion regarding passage of the Bill and none against it. (The motion was carried.)
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111 political divides and shades of opinion. It is also a manifestation of the present governmentãs policy of reconciliation as cherished by our great leader Shaheed Mohterma Benazir Bhutto. This crowning achievement will be remembered for all times to come. I pay tribute to all the members of the committee, specially, Mian Raza Rabbani for their political experience and wisdom for making possible the finalization of the å19 th Amendment Billç. I will now read out the prorogation order received from the President of Pakistan. In exercise of the powers conferred by Article 54(1) of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, I hereby prorogue the Senate Session on the conclusion of its business on 30 th December, 2010. Sd/- (Asif Ali Zardari) President, Islamic Republic of Pakistan. ______(The House was then prorogued sine die.)
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