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Report of Proceedings of House of Keys Printed (by Authority) by CORRIE Ltd., 48 Bucks Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS OF HOUSE OF KEYS Douglas, Tuesday, 26th October 1999 at 10.00 a.m. Present: management programme funded by the Treasury for the The Speaker (the Hon N Q Cringle) (Rushen); express purpose of commenting on the existing Mr L I Singer and Hon A R Bell (Ramsey); arrangements for the management of health and safety Mr R E Quine OBE (Ayre); Mr J D Q Cannan (Michael); within the organisation and offering recommendations to Mrs H Hannan (Peel); Hon W A Gilbey (Glenfaba); help improve the existing safety management system. My Hon S C Rodan (Garff); Hon D North (Middle); department accepts the findings of both reports. Mr P Karran, Hon R K Corkill and Mr G T Cannell Progress on implementing the recommendations (Onchan); Messrs J R Houghton and R W Henderson contained within the AON report is being monitored on a (Douglas North); Hon D C Cretney and Mr A C Duggan regular basis by the Isle of Man Railways' Health and (Douglas South); Mr R P Braidwood and Mrs B J Cannell Safety Committee. The works identified within the Jarvis (Douglas East); Mr J P Shimmin and Hon A F Downie report are extensive and need to be undertaken to ensure (Douglas West); Hon J A Brown (Castletown); the continuing safe operation of the railways. There is Hon D J Gelling (Malew and Santon); Sir Miles Walker £600,000 within the department's current year revenue CBE LLD (hc) and Mrs P M Crowe (Rushen); with budget for permanent way works, and this will be targeted Prof T StJ N Bates, Secretary of the House. at the priority areas identified within the Jarvis report. Further to this, a bid to introduce a capital scheme as part of my department's capital estimate submission for the The Chaplain took the prayers. 2000 budget will be made. The significant budget required is over f12 million and spread over a seven-year period. My department has already appointed Gibb Limited, a Railways — Operational Difficulties - firm of consulting railway engineers, to manage and Question by Mr Henderson supervise the contract works covering the current year budget provision. It will also be my department's intention The Speaker: Hon. members, we turn to our order to make a similar appointment for any capital programme paper. Item 1, I call upon the hon. member for Douglas contracts. North, Mr Henderson. Mr Henderson: Mr Speaker, I thank the hon. minister Mr Henderson: Thank you, Mr Speaker. I beg leave to for that comprehensive reply. Would he agree with me that ask the Minister for Tourism and Leisure: the items contained in the Jarvis and even the AON reports need to be implemented as soon as practical, and would (1) Do you accept the findings in the Jarvis and AON he also agree with me that there are timescales highlighted reports, which highlight serious deficiencies in the within the Jarvis report and is his department prepared to operation of the Island steam and electric railways; meet the various timescales that are laid down in the Jarvis report? (2) how do you propose to address the reported deficiencies; and Mr Cretney: Yes there are timescales laid down within the report and it will be our intention, subject to Treasury (3) will your department use fully qualified rail engineers to implement the recommendations in the approval, to meet those timescales and, yes, I do accept, reports? as I said earlier, the findings in the reports, which do highlight deficiencies and which we need to act upon. The Speaker: I call on the Minister for Tourism and Leisure, the hon. member Mr Cretney, to reply. Mr Henderson: Mr Speaker, a further supplementary, sir. Would the hon. minister agree that in the Mr Cretney: Thank you, Mr Speaker. To establish an implementation of the various proposals within these independent and professional view of the infrastructure reports a joint consultative process with the staff of both condition of both steam and electric railways my steam and electric would be the way forward and, inclusive department commissioned the Jarvis report. The AON in that, any staff side organisations that are present within Health and Safety Report was a part of government's risk the steam or railway companies? • Railways — Operational Difficulties — Question by Mr Henderson K2 HOUSE OF KEYS, TUESDAY, 26th OCTOBER 1999 Mr Cretney: Can I say, Mr Speaker, that we accept the hoteliers to provide accommodation particularly in the input of the staff on the ground who are involved in the middle range of tourist accommodation? day-to-day running of the railways. I would suggest - and it has been commented on by the Transport and General Mr Cretney: Mr Speaker, can I say first of all that I do Workers Union in the past - that the railways' Health and not think I said that there was no opportunity for there to Safety Committee, which we set up two years ago as a be new bed spaces; in fact, the reverse applies. I think that means of addressing railway health and safety issues and there will be people who will see that the industry does giving an opportunity for staff to raise their concerns, is a provide opportunities into the future and I think that that legitimate way where those people who are involved on a may be different than has traditionally been the case and I day-to-day basis can have legitimately their input, together think we may have to go out of our way to try and with management, to take things forward. encourage that. At the moment there is no grants and loans scheme available; that was discontinued because of lack of demand under the last administration. Tourist Accommodation — Number of Beds - In relation to the question about the future, the recently published 'Tourism Strategy, Building for the Future' sets Question by Mr Singer a number of objectives, one being to encourage appropriate new tourism development and events in line with market The Speaker: Item 2, hon. members, and I call upon opportunities. My department has identified the need to the hon. member for Ramsey, Mr Singer. create a tourism task force to sell the advantages of investing in tourism opportunities to potential investors. Mr Singer: Thank you, Mr Speaker. I beg leave to ask Discussions are taking place with the appropriate the Minister for Tourism and Leisure: organisations to establish this task force and I am pleased to say that the hon. member from the Legislative Council, (1) What tourist accommodation, calculated by number Mr Delaney MLC, who has, since I became minister, of bookable beds, was available in - headed up the marketing and tourism section of the department, I think with a great deal of success and hard (a) 1994; work, has been charged with heading up this responsibility. (b) 1999; and I am pleased to advise the House that discussions are taking place which are likely to result in additional bed spaces (2) what current accommodation, calculated on the becoming available through the redevelopment of same basis, does your department expect to be properties that are currently not registered also. available in - Mrs Cannell: Mr Speaker, in view of the task force (a) 2000; which the hon. minister has indicated has now been (b) 2001? initiated by the department, what else can be done to assist the minister and the department in achieving an increase The Speaker: Again, the Minister for Tourism and in accommodation, particularly of a higher quality? What Leisure to reply. can he identify will help the situation for him? Mr Cretney: Thank you, Mr Speaker. The total number Mr Cretney: Mr Speaker, we have identified that there of registered bed spaces in 1994 was 10,116. The current has been some renewed interest, which is contrary to the total for 1999 is 8,503, a reduction of 1,613 bed spaces. case under the past administration, in terms of grants and In answer to the second question, the Registration and loans, so we have included as a wish list item for that to be Grading Commission predict that there will be a total of reinstated. Now, whether it will be or not is subject to 8,400 registered bed spaces in 2000 and 8,300 by the year discussion and negotiation with the Treasury. Also, the 2001. Although the net bed space figure has been income tax capital release scheme which was introduced downward the percentage rate of decrease through the in 1991 and has been used by a number of developments 1990s has slowed. Thus in the early 1990s the total bed and is likely to be increasingly used as properties are space figure dropped by over 10 per cent per year whereas redeveloped can assist obviously on the basis that those the percentage decrease between 1998 and 1999 was 0.7 premises then into the future are going to be successful per cent. It is predicted that in the next five years the total and are going to pay tax. number of registered bed spaces will level out at between 8,000 and 8,500. Mr Singer: Could I ask the hon. minister, in view of his positive replies to the question, will these incentives - Mr Singer: I thank the minister for the detail in his I suppose overall word would be 'incentives' - be available answer. As the number of bookable beds has decreased, or does he see them being available outside Douglas - in though, considerably since 1994 and, as the minister said Ramsey, Peel, wherever? there is no sign of an increase in the near future, in order to justify the budget that is spent by your department on Mr Cretney: Mr Speaker, again, since I have been in encouraging visitors to the Island do we not need some post and, I know, under my predecessors, the importance kind of incentive to assist hoteliers and prospective of tourism to benefit sectors all around the Island has been Tourist Accommodation — Number of Beds — Question by Mr Singer HOUSE OF KEYS, TUESDAY, 26th OCTOBER 1999 K3 recognised.
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