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PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF THE FIRST SESSION (2012-2014) OF THE TENTH PARLIAMENT OF GUYANA UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE CO-OPERATIVE REPUBLIC OF GUYANA HELD IN THE PARLIAMENT CHAMBER, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, BRICKDAM, GEORGETOWN 77TH Sitting Monday, 7TH April, 2014 The Assembly convened at 2.03 p.m. Prayers [Mr. Speaker in the Chair] ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER Mr. Speaker: Hon. Members, just a few short announcements. Adjournment of the Sitting on 4th April, 2014 Mr. Speaker: I would like to make some comments about the manner in which we ended last Friday evening. I would just like to say that my allowing the Hon. Minister, Ms. Priya Manickchand, to speak was as a result of a contact meeting held between A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and People‟s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) representatives in my office on Wednesday last at which Ms. Manickchand was also present. It was believed and, perhaps, mistakenly so, that at that meeting we arrived at an understanding which included the statement made by Ms. Manickchand at the commencement of last Wednesday‟s Sitting as well. The events which followed continued to cause not only me but all of us, I am sure, some pain and anguish as it was never envisaged that the actions which followed, including, of course, the resignation of our dear Member, Mr. Jaipaul Sharma, would have occurred. I am firmly of the belief that notwithstanding all that has transpired, within the parties exist more than an ample 1 share of decency and sense of responsibility to do what is right, just and necessary in all of the circumstances. Resignation of Hon. Member Mr. Jaipaul Sharma Mr. Speaker: With that said, I formally wish to announce that, as stated before, I have received from Mr. Jaipaul Sharma a letter dated 3rd April, 2014, resigning his seat as a Member of Parliament (MP) with effect from that date. With Mr. Sharma‟s resignation, a seat in the National Assembly has become vacant and I hereby formally declare his seat as vacant. The vacancy is in accordance with section 99 (a) of the Representation of the People Act Chapter 1:03 to be filled by a person whose name is to be extracted from the list of candidates from which Mr. Sharma‟s name was previously extracted. As Mr. Sharma‟s name was extracted from A Partnership for National Unity‟s list of candidates, I have in accordance with section 99 (a) of the said Act called upon a representative of that list to further extract from that list the name of a person who is willing to become a Member of the National Assembly to fill the vacancy in the Assembly. Designated smoking area Mr. Speaker: I have received several concerns, Hon. Members, about both Members of the House and members of the public, who come to listen to debates, smoking. There is a designated smoking area to the west of the corridor and we ask you to do that down to the west because those who are non-smokers are being affected. Visit by Students and Teachers of the Camille’s Institute for Business and Science Studies Mr. Speaker: It is with pleasure I announce that in our presence this afternoon are 25 students and three teachers from the Camille‟s Institute for Business and Science Studies. I would ask them to stand so that they could be properly recognised by us. Thank you very much for coming. [Applause] STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS, INCLUDING POLICY STATEMENTS Opposition’s Disruption of Ms. Manickchand’s Address to the House Prime Minister and Minister of Parliamentary Affairs [Mr. Hinds]: Mr. Speaker and Hon. Members, I want to express on behalf of the Government side our surprise and astonishment on 2 the developments of last Friday when our Hon. Minister of Education rose to speak in her turn nearing the end of the day. The Members of APNU repeatedly drowned our Minister out by striking their tables and the Members of the Alliance For Change (AFC) seemed to be going and coming, absenting themselves and then returning whenever it seemed that we were about to proceed with our business. Mr. Speaker, we would recall that whilst at the moment on Tuesday you declared that you would not recognise the Hon. Minister for the duration of the budget, there was subsequently a meeting in your office the following day, to which you have just referred, at which the Hon. Member, Joseph Harmon, was present, and at which a set of words were drawn up for Hon. Member Priya Manickchand to say in recompense... Lt Col (Ret’d) Harmon: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I know that it is unusual for that to happen, but I want to ensure that the Hon. Prime Minister does not go down that road. We did not have any agreed set of words in the meeting which was held in your office. This is something that has been repeated over and over during the entire weekend. Mr. Speaker: Hon. Member, I would give you an opportunity to speak after the Prime Minister has spoken so that the Prime Minister may make his statement uninterrupted and you would have a full opportunity to respond thereafter, if necessary. Lt. Col (Ret’d) Harmon: Thank you, Sir. Mr. Hinds: A set of words were drawn up for Hon. Priya Manickchand to say, which she honourably and dutifully did, when so indicated by you at the start of our ordinary business on Wednesday afternoon. On Thursday, you made a ruling at the start of business. The matter was finished; it was closed. We proceeded with our business on both Wednesday and Thursday with the clear understanding that the matter had been settled. So, the Government side was taken by surprise and truly astonished by the action of APNU and AFC last Friday. A settlement was reached, which the Hon. Minister of Education adhered to and complied with, a settlement which we all in this National Assembly should adhere to and comply with. I thank you. 3 Lt. Col (Ret’d) Harmon: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me this opportunity to bring some clarity to this matter. Mr. Speaker, you would recall that on the day in question, Ms. Amna Ally, who is our Chief Whip, was not present and I was acting in that capacity for the first session of the Sitting of the National Assembly. As Speaker of the House, you called the Whips to your office in the presence of Hon. Minister Manickchand to deal with what you considered to be a way forward in this matter. It would be recalled that there was a discussion on it and, at the end of that discussion, the decision was that there will be a form of words used by the Minister which will give the impression that she is issuing an apology to this National Assembly. I want to make it very clear that we did not sit there and agree on any form of words before the end of that meeting. Whatever form of words was used was done after the meeting and I suppose it was given to the Hon. Minister to read and, in fact, she did speak it on the Floor of the National Assembly. I want to make it very clear because it has been the subject of several press statements, the subject of debates and the subject of reports in the press over the weekend that we sat there and agreed on a form of words which the Minister would use and, therefore, we should not have acted separate and apart from what was said. I want to make it very clear. We did not agree to any specific form of words which the Minister would use and that it was at your invitation that we came to find a way forward in this matter and I trust we have actually found a way forward today. Thank you. Mr. Speaker: Thank you for your comments. Ms. Teixeira, do you wish to be recognised? PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS Meeting held to Discuss Ms. Manickchand Addressing the House Ms. Teixeira: Mr. Speaker, I want to speak under Personal Explanations. It is true that you invited us to your room. The words that Minister Manickchand used on Wednesday, 2nd April, 2014, were the following: “May it please you, Mr. Speaker. I made a remark yesterday while Mrs. Lawrence was speaking and I want to make it clear that that remark was not intended to disrupt Mrs. 4 Lawrence – in fact I have said that to her myself – or to, in any way, disrupt the House and/or offend Your Honour in any way.” The meeting took place in your office. We discussed the wording verbally. We discussed that the apology was not an issue because of what was actually said in the House and what the Minutes and Verbatim record showed. There was a lot of discussion. I do not want to go into it. Some rather very personal things were discussed in that meeting. However, at the end of it, the phrasing was repeated and the Hon. Member, Mr. Harmon, was asked three times by you – if I am lying, please correct me – “Do you find this acceptable?” The answer was “Yes”. “Do you find this acceptable?” The answer was “Yes”. “Do you find this acceptable?” The answer was “Yes”. This was the phrasing. Minister Manickchand said these words to us in the meeting and we found that it was acceptable.