#2501 mem Nov 13, 2006 05:10 PM Quote: Originally Posted by bhbuster I don't think anyone in this thread is currently flying a brushless setup in their fp at the moment. There have been some to do it and most return to the stock motor. I am also thinking there are a few who are currently working on brushless setups as I type this. Certainly not needed for lipos. Brian My FP is still flying with the Feigao brushless. I also have a stock FP and actually prefer flying that, mostly because it’s lighter with the stock skids (the brushless heli has heavyweight landing gear). 2S LiPos (both 800’s and 1320’s) work very well on both. My recommendation is to resist the temptation to upgrade the FP (other then going Lipo) and add a CP heli when you are ready for more action. #2502 mrmuffinmanvw Nov 13, 2006 05:30 PM Quote: Originally Posted by bhbuster I don't think anyone in this thread is currently flying a brushless setup in their fp at the moment. There have been some to do it and most return to the stock motor. I am also thinking there are a few who are currently working on brushless setups as I type this. Certainly not needed for lipos. Brian I am sure there are some who have gone the route of brushless and esc In there fp. But there seems to be something wrong here when you take a $41 airframe and put $100. in electronics into it. We all love our little fp and fly them when we get a chance. If you do the water breakin and advance the timing on the stock motor use a lipo 7.4 800mah and put fuses in and a head stiffiner that you can make yourself you come out with a good flying Honey Bee FP that won't break down and just keeps flying. You may need to change a main motor or tail motor once in a while but both of these are less than $7 each at bp hobbies. If you are going to go brushless at least use a CP2 airframe then you can go 3d when you are good enough and need the power. #2503 dave49749 Nov 13, 2006 06:10 PM I got it! I got it! I got it! I can’t wait to head home and begin the process of getting her ready to fly. I have put this off for some time now, but its really impressive once you get a look at this heli. Does any one have steps to assembly of the bare bones FP? It looks pretty straightforward but helis are new to me so any help is appreciated. I have the 3 in 1 a 6 ch RX, two Futaba s3110s, CSRC 10C 800 lipos Thanks Dave #2504 JustPlaneChris Nov 13, 2006 06:34 PM Dave, the assembly and setup is pretty easy! The two servos install on the frame (several pictures are in this thread, showing the servo orientation). The tail motor lead plugs into the top plug on the 3-in-1, and the main motor the bottom plug. The servo that tilts the swashplate side-to-side goes to the aileron channel, and the other one is elevator. On the 3-in-1, the top servo wire goes to throttle, the bottom to rudder. That's about it! You don't even need a heli program, unless you want to play with throttle curve (I haven't bothered). Good luck! Let us know how it goes. :) -Chris #2505 jgoodwin Nov 13, 2006 08:25 PM Thanks guys. That is what I thought. I think I would invest in another chopper (maybe a Mini-Zoom Pro) before I built this one up anymore (except for lipos). I can not wait for the next fly-in. Maybe I will actaully get to fly! , Jay #2506 Rare Bear Nov 13, 2006 08:54 PM Quote: Originally Posted by JustPlaneChris Dave, the assembly and setup is pretty easy! The two servos install on the frame (several pictures are in this thread, showing the servo orientation). The tail motor lead plugs into the top plug on the 3-in-1, and the main motor the bottom plug. The servo that tilts the swashplate side-to-side goes to the aileron channel, and the other one is elevator. On the 3-in-1, the top servo wire goes to throttle, the bottom to rudder. That's about it! You don't even need a heli program, unless you want to play with throttle curve (I haven't bothered). Good luck! Let us know how it goes. :) -Chris Hey, Chris - mind if I pick your brain a bit? I was just thinking of a hopped up FP heli - maybe a little project down the road considering how fun this heli is. :) What would you think about (2) aftermarket servos, an Esky Rx, a brushless motor, an Esky gyro, and a twin tail motor setup? I figure w/ a barebones setup, it wouldn't be too hard or expensive to do this, and I imagine the way the heli would perform would be quite stellar. :D The only thing I'm unsure of is programming my 7CHP w/ such a setup, and what brushless motor to run - any ideas? I would be looking for a low cost brushless setup to keep the costs down, although I don't like the CDROM motors - seem like the wouldn't have much power, and they're ugly, too. :) Lastly, are there any CNC mods for this bird? The swashplate looks paper thin, so I was wondering if anyone is making a CNC swash that would mate up w/ the Honeybee FP. God bless - "Rare" #2507 mrmuffinmanvw Nov 13, 2006 08:55 PM Quote: Originally Posted by dave49749 I got it! I got it! I got it! I can’t wait to head home and begin the process of getting her ready to fly. I have put this off for some time now, but its really impressive once you get a look at this heli. Does any one have steps to assembly of the bare bones FP? It looks pretty straightforward but helis are new to me so any help is appreciated. I have the 3 in 1 a 6 ch RX, two Futaba s3110s, CSRC 10C 800 lipos Thanks Dave Dave do everything that Chris said and also check that everything is tight. Set your gear backlash with a piece of paper so the motors run real smooth. When you install your servos make sure every trim is centered and your servo arms are at 90 degrees and your swash plate is level. Thats the basic setup after that it is time to put togeather a stiffiner for the rotor head and do the fuse mod to protect your esc. Get her done and let us know how she flys. Best of luck with the build. #2508 mrmuffinmanvw Nov 13, 2006 09:08 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Rare Bear Hey, Chris - mind if I pick your brain a bit? I was just thinking of a hopped up FP heli - maybe a little project down the road considering how fun this heli is. :) What would you think about (2) aftermarket servos, an Esky Rx, a brushless motor, an Esky gyro, and a twin tail motor setup? I figure w/ a barebones setup, it wouldn't be too hard or expensive to do this, and I imagine the way the heli would perform would be quite stellar. :D The only thing I'm unsure of is programming my 7CHP w/ such a setup, and what brushless motor to run - any ideas? I would be looking for a low cost brushless setup to keep the costs down, although I don't like the CDROM motors - seem like the wouldn't have much power, and they're ugly, too. :) Lastly, are there any CNC mods for this bird? The swashplate looks paper thin, so I was wondering if anyone is making a CNC swash that would mate up w/ the Honeybee FP. God bless - "Rare" Rare go back to post 2502 that says it all the honey bee fp is weight sensitive and doesn't like any added weight. Other than using different blades [ there are only a few available] your shooting your self in the foot going brushless with a fp save your money and go with a cp2 for that act. Just my opinion its hard to improve on the fp its so good to begin with. #2509 Discusman Nov 13, 2006 09:16 PM Just get a CP heli if you want something more responsive n speed. No need to upgrade the FP2 since it is a fun to fly heli already. #2510 Rare Bear Nov 13, 2006 09:19 PM Quote: Originally Posted by mrmuffinmanvw Rare go back to post 2502 that says it all the honey bee fp is weight sensitive and doesn't like any added weight. Other than using different blades [ there are only a few available] your shooting your self in the foot going brushless with a fp save your money and go with a cp2 for that act. Just my opinion its hard to improve on the fp its so good to begin with. Thanks - just a bit of a fantasy! :) I like to improve upon things, and i figured this would be cool, but I'll take your advice & stick w/ stock! I have several CP heli's as it is, so I don't need more power - just sounded fun.