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As founder and lead singer of FEAR, Lee fool.You don't believe me, lay down and measure. were chasing me and I found a place to hide inan Ving was the roaring voice of the west coast punk (laughs) old world Swiss looking street, just down the hill movement of the '70s and early '80s. FEAR cut SHOCK CINEMA: (laughs) from the Bates house of PSYCHO fame, I began thru a sea of mumbling, wrist cutting, overdosing, Ving: Shock Cinema. Now is that like Shock to have a feeling of Deja Vu, of having been there musically challenged bands with an in-your-face, Theater back in ? Growing up I had before but knew I never had. More than twenty get-out-of-my-way, 1,2,3,4 sonic wall, that sounds John Zacharly as Roland every Friday-Saturday years later while watching FRANKENSTEIN on as fresh today as it did back then. FEAR still sells night. late night TV, I realized, that was where I knew out clubs in New York, Chicago, Miami, Boston, that street from on that day at Universal. It was Philadelphia, Seattle, Austin, Dallas, Denver, and SC: So you loved movies from an early age? the street in the little Swiss-Austrian town where the Sunset Strip, with a seemingly ageless and What kind of films did you like growing up? Baron Frankenstein lived and was preparing for endless string of 15-18 year old fans still lining up What kind of films do you like now? his son's wedding. A street I had seen so many around the block. times as a kid watching the FRANKEN- Formed in 1977 FEAR was part of the STEIN movie and there I was hiding from first wave of west coast punk. Lee, stubborn security not realizing my hiding place was and perfectionist off stage as well as on, the famous village of FRANKENSTEIN. refused every record deal put in front of him There are 5 and only 5 films which for over three years (Clive Davis, Ahmed embody(no pun)the great Italian American, Ertegun and brother Nesuhi were very dis- Mafia, Cosa Nostra, Crime Syndicate and appointed) until with the help of Larry, his general Italian neighborhood fuck ups and lawyer he finally got a really shitty deal from wannabes experience. They are; MEAN Slash Records in 1981 (.014 cents per song STREETS, GOODFELLAS, CASINO all writers royalty), and no advance. Resulting in directed by Martin Scorsese and THE one of the few punk records that stand the GODFATHER and THE GODFATHER test of time, THE RECORD featured already PART II directed by Francis Ford Coppola. classic songs like ") Love Livin in the City", "I Being an Italian American myself, born Don't Care About You", "Let's Have A War", Lee James Capellaro in Philadelphia (dur- "New York's All right If You Like Saxophones" ing the time of Angelo Bruno and Nicky and "Beef Bologna", most of which had been Scarfo) to a third generation Italian bringing LA clubs to their knees since 1977. American family from Saglianomicca,un po The muscular and draining 1-2-3-4 sound di cento chilometri al nord di Firenze (a hun- was as influential as it was impossible to dred kilometers north of Florence), e di duplicate (unless you were willing to work Napoli, Italia (and from Naples, Italy). out night and day, your body just couldn't It has been my lifes ambition to work handle it). Full of wit, irony and humor that on a Mob related film (Which I am writing passes over the heads of critics to this day, about Philadelphia) directed by Mr. the stage show was as in your face as the Scorsese with his A list actors, as one of music was. Lee and guitarist Philo Cramer those colorful characters that were my would beat the audience about the head and heroes growing up on the Mean Streets of brain for hours on end, there hasn't been "Fishtown" (Kensington and Allegheny anything like it before or since. Ave.) and South Philadelphia. Thankfully it was captured for posterity in the documentary THE SC: Where are you from? DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION Ving: Philly, Fishtown, Kensington and (1981). A truly great film and a worthy his- Lee Ving as Mr. Boddy in CLUE Allegheny Ave., Germantown, Roslyn, toric record. That will see the light of day on Willow Grove, St Lukes Elementary in dvd sometime next year (at least that is Ving: As a kid in Philly I loved the Universal Horror Glenside, St John of the Cross Elementary in Penelope's hope). films. FRANKENSTEIN, DRACULA, THE WOLF Roslyn, Abington High School and South After the breakout performance in DECLINE MAN, FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLF Philadephia and Villanova University (V for and a hell raising lifetime network banning per- MAN, BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN also THE Villanova V for victory). Everybody sing, Now!!! formance on , Lee soon MUMMY (which has the eerie same intro music as I'm from Philadelphia can't you tell. Fucking had acting offers to go along with the club dates. DRACULA).These were and are my favorites.The guy over 'der. ) was born Lee James Capellaro in A steady stream of screen and television roles best and only Great horror movies ever made and Philadelphia a couple a weeks ago, in started in 1983. From the out of control Piggy in ever worth mentioning. No others measure up. As Germantown Hospital, my family was living in GET CRAZY (1983), the sleazy club owner in Count Dracula says about Carfax Abbey "I shall Fishtown at the time, Kensington and Allegheny, FLASH DANCE (1983), the immortal Mr. Boddy in do very little repair. It reminds me of the broken sort of that neighborhood down by Pulshutsky's CLUE (1985), the ruthless thug fighting it out with battlements of my own castle in Transylvania"and peer, on Allegheny Ave, across the street from the Tommy Lee Jones in BLACK MOON RISING "There are far worse things awaiting man than Nativity church, a Polish, Irish, Italian neighbor- (1986), and not one but two TV-episodes of FAME Death." I also loved THE HUNCHBACK OF hood, bad then, bad now. I call myself Lee Ving, (1984 and 1987)!? NOTRE DAMEwith Charles Laughton. it's a joke name (un nome scherzo) like leaving Lee is a force with whom to be reckoned. One day while we were filming STREETS like ok I'm leeving now, get it? But with a name Having left Hollywood in the 1989 to raise a OF FIRE (1984), under the pretense of "warming like Lee Ving, Martin Scorsese probably never family in Austin, Texas, Lee is back in town and up the bikes" at lunch me and some of the knew that I am Italian, that I could be a "made" ready to kick ass (hopefully not mine). Bombers did our daily terrorize the lot and run guy, 100% Italian, with both sides of my family awayfrom security routine. Great fun riding a loud traced back to Italia and thus help him out in case Lee Ving: This old boy says to me, he says why Harley Davidson around Universal Studios with he has any union problems with his next film star- howdy partner, can you tell how far it is to town. I some of the most notorious outlaw bikers in ring Lee "Ving" Capellaro. Any of yous got a prob- said why yes I can, it's about three lengths of a California. So once I had lost the security who lem with that? www.shockcinemamagazine.com Page 9 SC: When did you first get one in the audience but no one knew involved in music? the difference, and that was the last Ving: I don't know, I just always was, time we played SATURDAY NIGHT my earliest recollections are musical LIVE. John was there too, he showed ones. I started playing at the age of up for the taping, he had just quit the 4, my mother had a mandolin and cast, and they said well you're here began to teach me to play and I man you wanna do something? He would entertain the family, now I'm said ok and they put a camera on him 22 and I'm still at it. and he just did one of his eyebrow numbers that he did, and that was his SC: Any crazy memories about last live bit of work for SATURDAY starting out, jobs you had before NIGHT LIVE. FEARtook off? Ving: Well shit, I was a bartender SC: Didn't somebody get hit in the most of the time, Slug'sJazz Cafe on head with a pumpkin? (laughs) the lower Eastside of Manhattan and Ving: Yea, Dick Ebersole the stage Donte's in North Hollywood, I was a manager I think, got hit in the head singing waiter at one point at the with a pumpkin but it wasn't life Great American Food and Beverage threatening. There was some dam- Companyin Westwood that was very age to one of the old television cam- crazy, people would stop for dinner eras somebody put a dent in one of and I would torture them with FEAR the hydraulic tubes that bring it up songs I was writing at the time. and down, and so I got a call the next II day from the NewYork Post and they SC: You formed FEAR in 1977, said we heard you caused 20-30 1978? (1977 really wasn't it, that's Lee Ving as Piggy in Allan Arkush's GET CRAZY thousand dollars worth of damage to what I read everywhere anyways.) the studio. I said "that's bullshit, we Ving: Si, Certo, FEAR, 1977, 78. name punk rock. They decided they were gonna are professionals we caused $ 500,000 worth of call up some band or another, my friend Tino damages I counted it myself."Demolition was the SC: You were playing clubs? Insana who was good friends with , other thing that we did, we played music,did dem- Ving: We were playing clubs in LA we had record- they grew up together, slept out in each others olition, public relations you know. (laughs) ed one single in 1978 "I Love Livin in the City" with back yards in tents and shit, they were really close a b side of "Now You're Dead" we hadn't done a friends. Tino said to John no no don't get whoever SC: So how did you end up acting? Was it off big studio record yet, and I was slamming up the hell they were gonna get, call FEAR. So one the SNL appearance? posters with a staple gun up in Laurel Canyon try- afternoon I get home and the phone is ringing, its Ving: Not really. It was from THE DECLINE and ing to stay out the way of the cops as they drove Michael O'Donaghue and he says, hi is this Lee? then Allan Arkush came to see FEAR play at the up and down the street and I see this white mus- I say yea. Well this is Michael O'Donaghue from Whiskey, and they were about to do a movie that tang convertible come hauling ass down the SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE we'd like to street and stand on the breaks, and this great know what you guys are doing on the looking girl inside with pretty black hair says "Hey 31st of October Halloween night. I said, you guys wanna be in my movie?" and we said Well let me check my schedule and "Sure," she turns around and comes back and see... just kidding, for you we aren't says "Here my name's Penelope gimme a call." doing anything. What do you have in blah blah blah. So we talked to her and before you mind? He said we'd like you to come know it we're scheduled to play in this documen- play SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE. I said tary film that Penelope was directing, Penelope that sounds great let's do it, so we Spheeris that is. Before you know it she's bringing went, and in the meantime we had met her film crew to gigs, huge crowds showed up to John, and I realized right away we were two of these performances that we had scheduled gonna be friends, we hit it off. We for ourselves to play. She filmed it, and we did a showed up in New York, played the little bit of interview work, not very much, some of rehearsals for the show, played the tap- the other bands with much less to say did much ing without the audience and the taping more of the interview sequences than we did, but with the audience, which got shut down we brought the meat and potatoes where it was in the middle because we had invited a needed out to the live performance with the few people to see the show, not we, but crowd, we were baiting them arguing with them John did, called some people in DC carrying on intellectual repartee with the numb- and Philadelphia, and by the time they skulls that had come to see the show (just kid- got to New York what was intended to ding) wound up being pretty entertaining footage. be 20-25 people wound up being 100, I still get a chuckle out of it. That was the start. and they were in the green room, drank The film went around the country we went around all the beer, ate all the sandwiches, the country right behind it and toured in places gave each other haircuts, by the time where this movie had just been. People like John they let them out into the audience they Belushi saw the film and thought it was pretty were a ball of springs and jumped onto funny, we got to meet him based on that later on, the stage as we were playing the intro and became close friends with him, he was a to one of the tunes, all hell was break- great guy. ing loose as far as they could see, it was what was normally expected for a SC: How did you end up on SATURDAY NIGHT show of this kind, but no one from LIVE? Nebraska or Kansas who had come to Ving: Someone at SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE real- SNL to see the taping of this show was prepared had a part in it for a crazy singer named PIGGY, ized that there was this thing going on called punk for that. So it got shut down after someone and apparently I fit that description quite well, and rock, for want of a better term, you know I never screamed an expletive (FUCK NEW YORK) into a before you know it I'm acting in this film with the felt that's what we were, I knew we were playing microphone that we had dropped because there great Malcolm McDowell, this beautiful Icelandic for the audience that thought that's what THEY was such pandemonium going on, they cut to actress named Anna Bjorn, The Turtles, Daniel were. Some people at SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE stock footage because they couldn't bleep it out, Stern and Lou Reed. I got an agent, John wanted to book a band that played this kind of and it went out to the whole country over the air- Burnham at ICM and the rest is history and how I stuff, albeit what we played was very different than waves and this four letter word happened and it can now afford to live in Bel-Air next door to John all the other bands that called themselves this wasn't anyone in the band saying it, it was some- Travolta. It's the American dream really. Page 10 SHOCK CINEMA sc: What was the very first thing you shot, do However, I was told that on the Johnny Iy entertaining. Alan and Christopher then did you remember? Carson show, Malcolm said that all he remem- some ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS Ving: Yeah I do. It was this guy who owed money, bered of the filming of GET CRAZY was working remakes for Universal, and cast me in the very couldn't even pay the vig to some people that I with that maniac Lee Ving. Showing that he is a first episode, called "Incident in a Small Jail;' a was working for in Philly. It must have scared him discerning fellow. remake of an old black and white episode that cause he paid up right away and I just winged him had starred my friend Richard Jaeckel. so that he would not croak and could pay the loan sc: (laughs) What was your next job? ya know what I'm talkin about over there tough Ving: My next movie was FLASHDANCE, my sc: Ned Beatty was the other actor in your guy. agent, John Burnham at ICM at the time, sent me episode, what was he like to work with? to read for it he said Lee Ving: Ned Beatty is a true gentleman, he went on you're not gonna get this part the Merv Griffin show about the time this was Adrian Lyne wants Keith going to air, and said to Merv that he had worked Richards to play the part, on this episode with a great young actor, talented they're buddies, but just go, fellow, smart fellow, named Lee Ving. I never got to I it'll be good practice.Well, you thank him. Thanks for the plug Ned. , know maybe Keith doesn't talk like an east coast city guy sc: How did you get cast in Walter Hill's rock that has a club that he runs, epic (1984)? and maybe they thought it Ving: I read for the part of the boss of this biker might be difficult to get him gang The Bombers for Walter Hill, Judith Holstra out of bed at 4:30 in the morn- and Joel Silver.The part called for a sledgeham- ing for 8 weeks to make the mer fight. I just happened to have a 12 pound movie. Anyways make a long sledge at home so I snuck it into universal in my story short and since I would case, I also hid a .38 in the neck of the also cost a bit less, I wind up case. So I'm reading for the part, I pull out the with the part.The movie came sledgehammer and go through those motions out, and in three weeks it had and Walter's eyes are very wide at this point, made like 90 million dollars or Judith's too, then I pull the .38, man I thought something, all of the sudden I everyone was gonna need new shorts. It wasn't have a lot of friends at loaded, I didn't bring a loaded .38 to Universal Paramount and Universal, not Studios but I did bring a .38, to accentuate my to mention Jerry Bruckheimer otherwise brilliant reading of this part. Fortunately and Don Simpson. for me I wasn't arrested, I was hired, for the part of Greer the underboss. We shot over like 16 Lee Ving in Walter Hill's STREETS OF FIRE sc: That was Bruckheimer weeks at Universal Studios I met the Heathens Yea. I was in the trunk of this car being driv- and Simpson's first huge hit right? motorcycle club during the filming, and shortly en by these three actresses, only a crazy person Ving: Yea. The late Don Simpson, rest his soul, atter we wrapped the movie I became a member would get into the trunk of a car being driven by was on location with us in LA near 6th and Hill of the Heathens, go figure. an actor much less these three ditzos. So they where we were shooting FLASHDANCE, and was pulled in and stopped, the trunk opens, I jump out entertaining everybody with this plastic gun, wan- sc: Did it get crazy with all these real bikers at of the car run over and dive into a bunch of trash dering off our lot into the downtown area, continu- Universal Studios? cans, run back over to the car where somebody ing to flash this plastic gun, I went up to him and Ving: One day at lunch me, and has put down a contract for me to sign, but told him, don't be doing that shit off the set man, some of the other guys, took the motorcycles we instead of signing the contract I decide I am going they don't know you, the LAPD is gonna freak and were riding in the movie out on the universal lot, to put a dent into it with my head and plow my shoot you. Hill St. ain't Hollywood. mine belonged to this guy named "dog" who was head into the trunk of the car and put a huge dent in the Crucifiers. We're out terrorizing the lot, in the thing, for real, this was when I was crazier, sc: Was NIGHTMARES(1983)next? going real fast, being crazy, the Universal tram and that was my initiation into the world of dra- Ving: Yea. Christopher Crowe and Alan Barnette comes by and the lady sees that there's this matic acting, having been taught by Miss Stella are friends of mine. This was their first feature. motorcycle speeding towards the tram and she Adler and Mr. Lee Strasberg, because my craft is They cast me as an escaped killer hiding in the says, ladies and gentleman that is one of our stunt everything, yis know what I'm talkin over there? back seat of a car. In the end I get shot up with drivers from the film STREETS OF FIRE, at the squibs, just blown away. I had my family, my wife very last minute I grab hold of the breaks, the bike sc: (laughs) Yea, It has to be one of the great- and son on the set to watch, they found it all high- starts to slide in the sand on the lot out there, and est entrances in film history, I bring the bike to a stop maybe right up there with Orson a half a foot from the tram. She Welles in THE THIRDMAN. says again, that's one of our Ving:Yeahor Arnold in PREDA- stunt drivers from STREETS TOR. OF FIRE. (laughs)

sc: What was it like working sc: (laughs) That was like with Malcolm McDowell? Bill Paxton's first movie? Ving: Of course, Malcolm is a Ving: Yea, yea, I got to hit Bill gentleman and an unpredictable real hard in the stomach and sort in the presence of debauch- Walter put a really good sonic nik droogen mates such as thud in the soundtrack of it, so myself or a right gorgeous it looked like I really whacked devotchka patitsa as Anna him. I just ran into Bill the other Bjorn. And so your humble nar- day, and we went and had rator one afternoon in Malcolm's lunch together, I said, Bill and I j grabbed him by the neck and I .I trailer having many a malaka of I Budweiser and some Gran Fine really slammed him in the gut Brut is introduced to us the very and said, I just wanted to see if Beautiful Icelandic co-starring you still had it man, and youdo, actress Anna Bjorn. Malcolm you still got it Bill. before saying a word, sweeps her into the bed chamber of his sc: Next up you were in that motorhome, picks her up and weird almost sequel to Fast onto the bed as he introduces Times with Chris Penn and himself. Right, Right says I. Tim Curry, Lee Ving and Colleen Camp in CLUE Eric Stolz, THE WILDLIFE. www.shockcinemamagazine.com Page 11 Ving: Yea Cameron Crowe wrote Boom Boom Mancini, Ken it. I was a cable guy that showed Norton, Gregory Harrison, up and wouldn't go away. It was amazing cast. We shot in a lot of fun. Chris Penn (god rest Cancun and in Puerto Morelos his soul) and Sean came to a a little town north of Cancun, it few FEAR shows along the way. was great, like a little vacation for everyone. It was an NBC SC: So all through these act- movie of the week. ing roles FEAR was still play- ing? SC: SCENES FROM THE Ving: Yea yea yea. In fact up until GOLDMINE (1987)? we started to film FLASH- Ving: SCENES FROM THE DANCE I was still tending bar at GOLDMINE was great, direct- Donte's Jazz supper club in ed by a friend of mine Marc North Hollywood. Rocco. He was doing a movie about the backstage life of rock SC: Somewhere along here n roll. I got to work with the Alan Arkush the guy who put great Steve Railsback, from you in GET CRAZY, cast you in HELTER SKELTER. Very an episode of the TV show intense actor, great guy. FAME right? Ving: Yea I did two episodes. I SC: You had a great guest got to sing in both. I playedsome starring part on Michael local hood in the first episode, Lee Ving in Michael Mann's CRIME STORY Mann's CRIMESTORY (1987). then a computer repair guy in Ving: I got to playa Jimmy Hoffa the second one. In the course of chasing around great actors, it was pretty cool. One day, after Mr. type character "we're lookin out for the workers some of the regular actors in the first one, I stand Boddy was killed in the story, the cops are on their here, were lookin out for the union benefits" all that and sing "The Impossible Dream" on a stage, a way to the house, and I am supposed to be pas- kind of stuff, I got to do great scenes with all the song most out of character for a local hood, but sionately making love to Madeline Kahn, she is Crime Story regulars. I deliver this big speech in a something I enjoyed doing. It's all about contrast. operating my arms making them look like they are union hall, my ties loosed up, sport coat off, my moving, my back is to the door as Bill Henderson sleeves rolled up, talkin turkey to the union mem- SC: In the second one you had this big Bruce the cop shows up. Jonathan Lynn says lets bers, it was gift, it was just a great part that I loved Springsteen style dance number. rehearse it, he says action, she starts moving my thoroughly. Bonnie Timmerman cast me in it, she Ving: Right, it was supposed to this Bruce arms and kissing me, all of the sudden she stops was gonna cast me in a MIAMI VICE, and cast me Springsteenkind of number.One of the lines I was and screams "He is kissing me BACK!" and I say in this CRIME STORY instead, got a phone call on supposed to deliver, was "I've got better pipes "hey over there whataya expect, a guy gets a shot Tuesday morning, can you be in Vegas by tomor- than the boss,"When I was reading for the part, I you take advantage," Heh. row afternoon and I say, "Does a bear shit in the switchedthat to "Yeathat's right I got a better pipe woods? Is the Pope Catholic over there?" than the boss,"I may havealready had the job, but SC: That's a movie that wasn't considered a if I didn't it was secured after that. I went into the big success when it came out, but it seems to SC: Somewhere along in here you did a song studio and sang the song that you hear. have a big following now. for the Louis Malle movie ALAMO BAY (1985). Ving: It's a cult film, the three endings, it Ving: Yea and Ry Cooder were doing was very cool. Last year they asked me the soundtrack, I got to write the title song "Alamo to host this midnight screening of CLUE Bay" with Ry Cooder, sang the song and played where people throw stuff at the guests, harmonica on it. somehow I found something else I needed to do that night. SC: How did you end up on a WHO'S THE BOSS episode? SC: BLACK MOON RISING? Ving: (laughs) I playa hoodlum from Angela's Ving: BLACK MOON RISING was great. high school days that still has a band, I get to sing Got to work with Tommy Lee Jones, two songs to Judith Light. Singing two songs on a good fella, fan like myself. hit TV show is very cool.Tony was a great gentle- We had fight scenes where we beat the man, everyone was great. I showed up to living tar out of each another. When it rehearse one day and it was supposed to be a was over, the stunt coordinator, Bud bunch of bikers in this bar, and it looks like Davis, a guy who had done the stunts in Hollywood's version of what bikers look like, I SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT was so went up to Tony and I said, you know I can get impressed by my pummeling of Tommy some guys in here that look a helluvalot more Lee that he offered me work as a stunt realistic than this bunch. Tony said yea just go man. The shoot was great. It was the ahead. So the next day I had populated the bar great Keenan Wynn's last role. The late with Heathens, Crucifiers and other clubs. All Ving sings on the TV-series FAME Richard Jaeckel was also in it, who I had actual members at the time, so it looked extreme- become friends with at Joe Gold's World ly authentic, I knew many of them from Streets of SC: You played the infamous Mr. Boddy in Gym. That was a great place, you would see the Fire, so the bar scenes really looked as real as CLUE, what was that like? governator, the hulk Lou Ferigno. We were on the they could possibly be. I got to sing "Are You Ving: CLUE was great, working with Madeline set of BLACK MOON RISING and I was com- Lonesome Tonight",the Elvis tune for Judith Light, Khan, Eileen Brennan, Christopher Lloyd, Colleen plaining about something, and I turned to Richard and Charlie Musselwhite's "Help Me" which I still Camp, Michael Mckean, Tim Curry, Martin Mull and said what do you think? and he said "man I'm sing to this day, it was very cool. We finish filming and Bill Henderson, a singer and actor who I'd just happy to be here," I thought to myself, "oh man and it's the big wrap party, this red headed worked with on GET CRAZY. I wish I had said that," My hats of to you Richard actress Twink Caplan who was in a scene at the wherever you are, bless you man. club, swiped this 4 star brut bottle of champagne SC: You were a dead body for most of the film, with my name on it, she takes it and leaves me but you were on screen a lot, what was that SC: You did this TV movie with the great Steve the cheap bottle and scoots. (laughs) So me and like? Carver. all the bikers head back to my house for an all Ving: Face down on the rug was position one Ving: OCEANS OF FIRE (1986) with Steve night party, the cops didn't come, happy ending. many an afternoon. It was all the same to me, it Carver, cool guy, he let me say camera sound was very cool.To be riding my Harley Davidson to action, and yell cut, get practice in for my directo- SC: DUDES? work at the Paramount lot with a big old buck rial debut which has yet to occur. It was great, we Ving: Penelope Spheeris was directing movies by knife,and then getting into wardrobe with all these were in Cancun for a month, with Lyle Alzado, now and she cast me as this local Montana guy Page 12 SHOCK CINEMA called Missoula. I love Ving: It was at De Beer In Heaven Who the Hell Would Want To Go" Penelope always have, Laurentiis Studio in and a biker tune called "Two Wheels to the Wind". always will. was in Rome, heaven on earth, the movie, he had been in the place they break you SC: Why did you move out of LA. FEAR for a couple years, for lunch is the best Italian Ving: I moved to Austin to relocate. (laughs) he was our bass player, restaurant I have ever we didn't record during eaten in, but then every SC: Range War is this mythical band you still that period, by the time restaurant you go to in hear people talk about, read about on the we recorded again Flea Rome is the best Italian internet, but you never released an album or was in the Chili Peppers.I restaurant you've ever anything. remember one night both eaten in, and I'm moving Ving: Yea we played all over, we played out here me and Catherine Mary there as soon as we finish in LA. We played one night at a club called The Stewart one of the stars ! this interview. (laughs) Lingerie in Hollywood, and I was a member of the of Dudes,fly into Phoenix Heathens at the time and I had to tell the guys in at the same time and sc: PULSEPOUNDERS the motorcycle club that we were playing a joint meet at the rental place, / was finished, but it's called The Dead Dog Saloon so that they would we have to drive from never come out? show up, (laughs) they did, the rest is history.The Phoenixnorth to Flagstaff Ving:Yea it's finished. It's Range War album is finally coming out. The at like 2 in the morning great. I see on the inter- recordings are done. It's finally gonna be avail- and we decide to race, it net that they are still try- able. took us a good20-30 min- ing to get it out. utes to get there.We went SC: So what are you up to now? 120-140 mph the whole sc: MASTERS OF MEN- Ving: I am up to establishing the empire. My own way. We just saw each ACE? record company, I'm writing a book, I have a Live other, it was 2:30 in the Ving: Oh yea, Tino DVD featuring confiscated FEAR footage from the morning and we decided Insana wound up produc- best shows, I have a bluegrass band called Lee what the hell, let's race. ing this film, sort of a Ving and String Theory, the Range War record is biker comedy, and I get to sing two songs in the about to be released on my own label, there are 4 sc: What's with this lost Charles Band movie film. It was a tongue in cheek biker movie, where FEAR albums due to be released on my label, . PULSEPOUNDERS? we are bringing a friend of ours' remains back to FEAR played this years Warp Tour, there will be a Ving:It was a trilogy of stories. I played the devil's his home turf to be buried and the long odyssey reality show from that that we are in, a record from theatrical agent, the devil was played by the great which involves stealing a beer truck and getting the tour and a DVD. Next year we are gonna play Richard Moll. The devil is killing me in the end, drunk many many times. the west coast leg of the Warp Tour again. I just levitating me up in the air, and I get to say to the appeared in a surfer film set in the early 80's that Italian crew "per favore non mi ropere i coglione" SC: Wereyou living in Austin at this point? Kevin Lyman wrote and produced. That should be which means in Italian, please don't break my Ving: I don't remember. (laughs) Just kiddin, yes I coming out next year. A film called "I'm callin balls. Ok over der, that's for the Italian language moved to Austin in 1989, had this hard core honky Frank" that I star in and playa baseball bat wield- students in the audience. (laughs) tonk country band Range War. MASTERS OF ing entrepreneur named Frankie "Bats" Capellaro. MENACE was 1991 and I sang two Range War And FEAR will be coming to a city or Mega SC: Where did you film that movie? songs that I wrote in the film. 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