Nigger Names - OBJECTING
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Nigger names - OBJECTING SUBMISSION SUBMITTER'S NAME DATE REASON(S) SUMMMARISED ALTERNATIVE NAME All or some? NO. 001 Online objecting Grant Hughes 2015-10-29 Names are historical, can't change All submission - things if you don't know the context. Slippery slope argument. 002 Online objecting John Van Der Leden 2015-10-29 NZGB is equivalent to ISIS blowing All submission - up monuments. Rewriting history. Currently ruled by SJWs [presumably 'Social Justice Warriors'], enormous number of potentially offensive place names. 003 Online objecting Jason Wohnsiedler 2015-10-29 Names are fine. All submission - 004 Online objecting Robert de Kock 2015-10-29 Appears to believe firmly in the Pūkio, Pūkio Hill and Pūkio Stream All submission - association between the names and the plant, so suggests that the Pūkio names would be more appropriate. Steelhead not relevant as it is not a native species. Suggests that there are many other names that could be considered offensive. 005 Online objecting Sam Colebaker 2015-10-29 Changing the names will put All submission - geographic websites out of date 006 Online objecting David Butler 2015-10-29 Nigger is just a shortened form of All submission - the word Negro [It has more letters?] or a person from Nigeria. Words can only be derogatory if intended to be. Being PC. Sick of Māori names. 007 Online objecting Tony Fleete 2015-10-29 Is PC, idiotic, names existed before All submission - Nigger had negative connotations. Should go to a referendum 008 Online objecting Robert H Mercer 2015-10-29 NZGB are narrow minded bigots, All submission - word is derogatory, word used most often by those it refers to. Word derives from Niger. Being PC. Has always and will always continue to called black negros Niggers. Word doesn't apply to aboriginals or Māoris. 009 Online objecting Doug and Heather 2015-10-29 Being PC. Cites Dambusters All submission - 'Nigger' controversy (the dog in Peter Jackson film may have its name altered). 010 Online objecting Greg Cuttance 2015-10-29 Is racist to change the names. Next All submission - we'll call NZ Aotearoa, have the word well entrenched. PC handwringing brigade, Māori never had a written language [why is this relevant?], PC Wankers causing a racial divide over the last 25 years like Doug Graham and Geoffrey Palmer. [Our] job is paid for by raping and pillaging the poor taxpayers. 011 Online objecting Dr Brendan Whyte 2015-10-30 There are Māori names in poor All submission - taste (anatomy), the word Nigger isn't offensive, black people call themselves niggers, cites Dambusters dog, use by famous authors. Word isn't discriminatory, no evidence it's derogatory, cites catalogue of photo portraits by C H Allen [no context] including one title 'A Nigger', depicting an aboriginal person. All the proposed names are 'risible', confusing, imply associations that don't exist. Meaning of words change over time. Also equates removing Nigger names to ISIS. Second submission: Not relevant and unproven what people outside of NZ would think of the names. No evidence that 150 years ago the names were offensive, discriminatory, derogatory, in poor taste; proposer did not provide evidence; submission addresses each claim extensively. Proposed names 'risible'; Kānuka hardly unique, Steelhead not particularly unique either. Names have been there for 100, 150 year. 'etymological and historical vandalism'. Tawhai not unique either. Niggerhead is useful and descriptive. Gives a number of examples of political correctness in USA. Suggests the word nigger will be entirely acceptable again. Equates name change with iconoclasm, ISIS, Taliban. 012 Online objecting Daniel Henderson 2015-10-30 Existing name is fine All submission - 013 Online objecting Graham Cliff 2015-10-30 Names are historically significant, All submission - no evidence names are malicious, people chose to be offended, attempting to change history, being PC, turning names over to local iwi ethnically biases [names not proposed by Ngāi Tahu] 014 Online objecting Zeb Paterson 2015-10-30 GGGrandson of Arthur Dobson, All submission - believes that whoever named the names was unlikely to have had racist intentions. Changing history. 015 Online objecting Jack Morrow 2015-11-01 Names are a unique and colourful All submission - part of our history. 016 Online objecting Glenn Goulter 2015-11-01 Rename Niggerhead Nigger Bluff Nigger Bluff Niggerhead submission - 017 Online objecting Joel Williams 2015-11-03 Proposed name inappropriate as Chinook Stream (investigated, no Nigger Stream submission - trout are only 'Steelhead' if evidence of Chinook Salmon) or anadromous-sea going, and none Rainbow Stream (would be of the NZ Rainbow Trout are. relevant). 018 Online objecting Richard Allibone 2015-11-05 NZ Rainbow trout while descended Three species of native fish in the Nigger Stream submission - from migratory American trout are stream, would suggest possibly not migratory, and so not 'puhi', 'roowai', 'rakahore" and 'Steelhead'. Trout a damaging 'paangoungou" and 'toitio", or introduced species, equivalent to approach Ngāi Tahu for a more naming a 'Possum Forest'. specific name. 019 Online objecting Linda Skleton 2015-11-05 PC gone mad, slippery slope, called All submission - pets Darkie and Blackie, etc 020 Online objecting Malcolm Main 2015-11-06 Steelhead name incorrect, NZ trout Māori name of Carex Secta [pūkio] Nigger Stream submission - not diadromous. Seems certain that the 'Nigger' does refer to Carex Secta. Should change the name to the Māori equivalent. 021 Online objecting Brent Arps 2015-11-19 The hill has little kānuka on it, Bell Hill, Marshall Stream Nigger Hill and submission - name it after Ron Bell, former Nigger Stream manager of Mount White station, whose ashes are spread on the hill. The stream should similarly be Marshall Stream after Ray Marshall, another previous manager. 022 Offline objecting L.A. Hastie 2015-11-30 Not being consistent in our All, presumably. submission - 'sanitising' of place names, i.e. Blackball will require investigation. Will contact English Language Commission to get rid of 'Pakeha'. Questions why the Geo Board changed the names of Cook and Egmont. Apparently "the Maori people of old did not name mountains or mountain ranges". Changing English names to Māori names is racism. 023 Offline supporting J M Hellyar 2015-11-09 Words are offensive, should be Suggests 'Flashing Trout', 'Fast Supports Kānuka submission - changed as soon as possible. Trout', 'Fish-a-while' Stream, "or and Tawhai, but whatever" thinks Steelhead is too obscure. 024 Online objecting Trevor W.A. Morley 2015-11-30 Word isn't objectionable or All submission - offensive. Word "correctly refers to native Afro/American persons". Word related to WWI and WWII, insult to servicemen to remove it, cites a warhorse called Nigger, the dambusters' dog. Also opposite to Whanganui change citing the New Zealand Company records as the first print text. 025 Online objecting Brian Molloy 2015-11-30 Supports the change, even though Hebe Stream [for the plant, is Nigger Stream submission - he wrote an article titled "Nigger native, Māori name is koromiko or Stream, Esk Valley. Botanical kōkōmuka - three Koromiko names report on wetlands and bog pine in Nelson area]. shrublands. Unpublished DSIR Vegetation Report No. 641, 28 pp. 1988." Believes however that as 'Steelhead' is an introduced trout, there are better options for the stream, such as the endangered Hebe armstrongii or the bog pine Halocarpus bidwillii. Surrounding features are also 'Big Flora' and 'Little Flora', so a flora name is appropriate. 026 Offline supporting Craig Benbow 2015-12-01 Tawhai Hill too generic, everything Lochinvar River, Turnbull River, All submission - covered in beech trees. Could use something after the stations Māori name [pūkio]. Term as used history. Pūkio Stream ,Hill (for both in NZ never used in a racist hill/s) manner. Could refer to something such as coal, the 'niggerhead' carex secta, or potentially a horse, dog, some other animal from the Mount White Station. The Stream could take on a name relating to surrounding features, or history of Mount White Station, or alternatively a Māori name. 027 Online objecting Karl van Slooten 2015-12-11 Objects due to long term use, lack All submission - of offensive caused, no problem for those that live in vicinity 028 Online objecting Graeme Paltridge 2016-01-12 There are no 'Steelhead' trout as Anything relevant: Mackinaw, Char, Nigger Stream submission - none are ocean going, though some native mudfish, longfin, galaxias marketers use Steelhead for international recognition. Probably should deal with all the other politically incorrect names (Chink, Chinama, Wog, Hori, Jap, etc) 029 Offline supporting Ron Panckhurst 2016-01-03 Existing names are fine, only All submission - changing for reasons of political correctness. Apparently NZGB have provided no reasons for the change. 030 Online objecting Derek Ball 2016-01-18 Long term use. No objections until All submission - recently. Over the top political correctness. 031 Online objecting Ross 2016-01-19 Offensive to history to remove the Follow up email submission - names. There's an obsession to use sent to clarify Māori names in government. The objection to all word Nigger is commonly used in three names. Hip-Hop music, thereby increasing the usage. 032 Online objecting Alan Tunnicliffe 2016-01-27 Disagrees with changing the names All submission - on the basis of long term use, and the likelihood of the names relating to the plant. 033 Online objecting Bradley Siebert 2016-01-29 Objects, that the names share the All submission - connotation with the slur is just coincidence until it can be proven. Provides a copy of Wikipedias list of Ethnic slurs. 034 Online objecting Pete Belt 2016-01-29 Nigger not a bad word in New All submission - Zealand context, slippery slope argument, get rid of Len Brown Place. Inconsistent with approach of using original Māori names.